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Speaker 1: At follow Adam a Adam Osley. Clippers run by sixty
Speaker 1: in the first half and then they got thunderclapped one's
Speaker 1: sixteen to ninety eight was your final They got outscored
Speaker 1: by twenty two points in the third quarter and the
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City Thunder proved who they are the best team
Speaker 1: in the Western Conference record wise. That is one thirteenth straight.
Speaker 1: Welcome in to Clippers Talk. I'm Auta Oslin. Whether you're
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Speaker 1: somebody that got to me a little bit earlier on there.
Speaker 1: It was a frustrating suite, but it should probably be addressed.
Speaker 1: Thirteen straight wins for OKC. They're on the front end
Speaker 1: of a back to back. They got the Nicks at
Speaker 1: home tomorrow. I believe SGA finished with twenty nine. The
Speaker 1: difference in the game, though, is simply Okase imposing their
Speaker 1: will in the second half and in that third quarter. Specifically,
Speaker 1: I said, if you follow the thread on X that
Speaker 1: I do for each and every game, I fall out
Speaker 1: of May. Near the end of the second quarter, I
Speaker 1: was saying, the Clippers better have a double digit lead
Speaker 1: going in to the half, or else they're in trouble.
Speaker 1: That's just how it has to be. Because you knew
Speaker 1: that run was coming from the Oklahoma City Thunder. You
Speaker 1: knew they weren't gonna be able to stay shooting as
Speaker 1: they started one for eleven from three. They were gonna
Speaker 1: start knocking them down, and they get into their offense
Speaker 1: and find themselves in the open floor when they turn
Speaker 1: you over. They are the best in the league at
Speaker 1: turning over opponents. At nineteen per game, the Clippers had twenty.
Speaker 1: They average twenty three twenty three points off of turnovers
Speaker 1: per game best in the league. The Clippers ended up
Speaker 1: giving them thirty one points off their twenty turnovers. That's
Speaker 1: the story. Eventually, Oka see did what Okase does? They
Speaker 1: turned you over? And oh yeah, they're the best at
Speaker 1: taking care of the basketball. They only had ten turnovers
Speaker 1: at the Clippers twenty. That's how they beat you. That
Speaker 1: so they win games. That's so they have won thirteen straight.
Speaker 1: And the game played out that way. I never felt
Speaker 1: comfortable think Daniel West can attest to this. In the
Speaker 1: first half, I was saying, it's early, they're up sixteen. Great,
Speaker 1: now they have a chance. But the thing I was
Speaker 1: saying was they better be up double digits heading in
Speaker 1: to the third quarter, and they were only up by four.
Speaker 1: As okay see, you got to work got it down
Speaker 1: to six points after an Isaiah Joe three late second quarter,
Speaker 1: Amir had a turnover, Norm had a turnover driving as
Speaker 1: he had his worst game of the season. Sga would
Speaker 1: eventually hit a three a J dub runner to end
Speaker 1: the half, and it's a four point game. When the
Speaker 1: Clippers were up by as many as sixteen at one point.
Speaker 1: They were on a seventeen to four run in the
Speaker 1: first half, but they couldn't hold on to it. And
Speaker 1: I don't fault the effort. Some people are confusing effort
Speaker 1: and execution in the chat, saying it needs to be
Speaker 1: a consistent effort all the way through. Just because you're
Speaker 1: losing doesn't mean all of a sudden you've let go
Speaker 1: of the rope or if given up or have stopped
Speaker 1: playing hard. That's not that's not the problem. The problem
Speaker 1: is you're being out talented. He already don't have kawhi
Speaker 1: Arn's man and then no James Harden, Like, what were
Speaker 1: your expectations going into this one? I know Sebastian Swinsteiger
Speaker 1: said the mush who's always wrong, the Clippers are going
Speaker 1: to win. Okay, so he's looking suspect his usual stick.
Speaker 1: He'll be in a time out whenever he comes back
Speaker 1: to the chat and shows his face. But I just
Speaker 1: don't know what your expectations were for the people saying,
Speaker 1: oh oh, sky's falling. They went one and two on
Speaker 1: the road trip. Awful road trip. Look, they lost a
Speaker 1: couple of games the second night of a back to
Speaker 1: back against San Antonio, and then they have a day
Speaker 1: off and they lose another one in the lions Den
Speaker 1: or The Dragon's Lair, which was a disappointing game on
Speaker 1: the PC growing up because you really felt like, oh,
Speaker 1: are the graphics really this good. No, it's just like
Speaker 1: cutscene things, that's all it is. But to play the
Speaker 1: best team in the Western Conference that had won twelve
Speaker 1: in a row and now it's thirteen, like this is so,
Speaker 1: this is not a time to panic cliper Nation. It's not.
Speaker 1: And now there's people in here in the chat that
Speaker 1: they just can't tell the nuance between effort and execution.
Speaker 1: The Clippers were playing hard. Sometimes, believe it or not,
Speaker 1: you can play really hard and gets your butts kicked
Speaker 1: because the team is just that much better than you,
Speaker 1: because it's a mismatch on paper, and you knew that
Speaker 1: heading in. But then you get up by sixteen and
Speaker 1: you feel like, oh, we could hang with them. It's
Speaker 1: a forty eight minute game. That's why I never got
Speaker 1: too high when they were up by sixteen. I knew
Speaker 1: what okaysee was about. I knew they started one of
Speaker 1: eleven from three and that's not sustainable. I knew the
Speaker 1: way the Clippers were shooting it. The mere coffee starting
Speaker 1: five to five from three was also not sustainable. So
Speaker 1: the Clippers were executing and playing really well early on,
Speaker 1: give them credit. Different guys were stepping up. KPJ had
Speaker 1: a really good first half. Mobamba had his best game
Speaker 1: maybe as a Clipper, especially in the first half. How
Speaker 1: much of that was going to be repeatable as the
Speaker 1: game goes along, turns out, typically you regress to the mean,
Speaker 1: you revert back to who you are now. Unfortunately for
Speaker 1: the Clippers, that never happened with Norman Powell. He started
Speaker 1: zero for five in the first half and never found himself.
Speaker 1: Had his worst game of the season. Give credit to OKC,
Speaker 1: but he had thirty one the last time out against him.
Speaker 1: I understand without James Harden, it's a much tougher thing
Speaker 1: when they can key in on you as the number
Speaker 1: one option out there, and they were great. He had
Speaker 1: a couple of rough calls go against him. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a mix of two things. He had
Speaker 1: an off night and also Okac's defense was leaning his way.
Speaker 1: They were very good against him. But I mean at
Speaker 1: the half, Mobaum had nine points on four to four
Speaker 1: shooting and knocked down a three pointer. That's the best
Speaker 1: state minutes he had played in the Clippers uniform. So
Speaker 1: far KPJ. He had ten points, a couple of nice assists.
Speaker 1: He played well in the first half. Their bench was
Speaker 1: outperforming the starters outside of a mere Coffee who got
Speaker 1: the start because no James Harden thought of each Zubats
Speaker 1: was playing solid basketball like he was bottying Isaiah Hartenstein.
Speaker 1: You had a spinning left handed hook off the backboard
Speaker 1: against him. Zoo was winning that matchup. They didn't go
Speaker 1: to him Aton and okay, see will double and throw
Speaker 1: different defenses at you because they got guys that can
Speaker 1: hedge and recover really well and a lot of switchability
Speaker 1: out there, and they're just I mean, they took Isaiah
Speaker 1: Hartenstein off the floor early on because Zoo was abusing him.
Speaker 1: They put it in the other Jalen Williams. They tried
Speaker 1: something immediately. I don't like Zubots even in you know,
Speaker 1: a game like this where you ended up getting blown out.
Speaker 1: But through three orders he only had nine shots, eleven
Speaker 1: and nine and twenty three minutes. And somebody in here
Speaker 1: was trying to tell me, you talk about KPJ having
Speaker 1: a bad second half or all his bad moments, but
Speaker 1: you don't talk about Avista Zubats having a terrible game.
Speaker 1: It's like, can you can you not decipher the difference
Speaker 1: between KPJ and Aviza Zubats. Like Aviza Zubats is one
Speaker 1: of the most important players on this team, that is
Speaker 1: a made man and established in this league. He is
Speaker 1: their last line of defense. He is one of the
Speaker 1: best room protectors in the league. He's been like that
Speaker 1: forever and this season he's averaging what almost sixteen and twelve.
Speaker 1: This guy Alfie, who I think is in the chat
Speaker 1: right now, if you guys see him in here, uh,
Speaker 1: maybe you could point out his flawed logic because he goes, Dude,
Speaker 1: you're just biased when it comes to KPJ. Look at Zoo.
Speaker 1: You can't tell me he's having a terrible game. Poor
Speaker 1: phrasing there. Well, Zoo wasn't having a terrible game. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't call it a good game or a great game.
Speaker 1: It was a slightly below average game, not a terrible game.
Speaker 1: But he goes, you won't mention that. Be shameless. Seriously,
Speaker 1: if everyone plays badly, hold everyone accountable, don't cherry pick.
Speaker 1: The reason that I'm highlighting KPJ is because it turns
Speaker 1: out that he's not established as a clipper. Yet you
Speaker 1: know you have to have it eat the zoobots out there.
Speaker 1: We don't know who KPJ is as a player. You
Speaker 1: don't know possession to possession, who he is as a player.
Speaker 1: It has been extremely up and down, and that is
Speaker 1: being kind. So I praised him in the first half
Speaker 1: when he had a good first half, and then I
Speaker 1: criticized him in the second half because he had an
Speaker 1: objectively bad second half. And this guy comes in here
Speaker 1: and has tried to tell me, Oh, you're biased for
Speaker 1: Vitza Zubas. I'm not worried about Avitza Zubos. I'm worried
Speaker 1: about KPJ ever finding a consistent rhythm out there, because
Speaker 1: he hasn't done it yet. He hasn't. Oh, ALFI changed
Speaker 1: his name. I think in the chat he doesn't want
Speaker 1: people to know that that was him. He said, So
Speaker 1: this guy put me on time out because I called
Speaker 1: you out over your biasness. I don't think he understands
Speaker 1: what bias is. His bias is thinking that I have
Speaker 1: a bias against KPJ, who I literally have a tweet
Speaker 1: for that says in the preseason, I've seen it enough.
Speaker 1: I think he could be the starting two guard at
Speaker 1: some point for the Clippers. And now you're saying I'm
Speaker 1: biased against him. Uh, KPJ had a fair game the least,
Speaker 1: but your favorite Norm Zoo Done had terrible games. Hold
Speaker 1: them accountable. Zoo and Done did not have terrible games. Like,
Speaker 1: some people can't be the least bit objective, and it
Speaker 1: is painfully obvious on here. I know it's social media,
Speaker 1: it's anonymous, you can hide behind all this stuff. But
Speaker 1: the KPJ hive is something else. I mean, it's not
Speaker 1: the russ hive, but it is completely illogical. Like somebody
Speaker 1: wants me to what lie and say KPJ is not
Speaker 1: smoking layups or trying to go one on two in
Speaker 1: the second half to get tough buckets and making life
Speaker 1: much more difficult on the Clippers, or having a bad
Speaker 1: offensive foul. Like what am I supposed to say? You
Speaker 1: want me to lie about it and say those players
Speaker 1: aren't happening. I'm watching the game. I've literally said Norman
Speaker 1: Powells at a really bad game, his worst game of
Speaker 1: the season. The difference is they're not the same. Norman
Speaker 1: KPJ aren't the same. KPJY and Zoo not the same.
Speaker 1: KPJ and Emir is not the same. We know who
Speaker 1: a mere coffee is as a player, So don't come
Speaker 1: in here and try to tell me that I needed
Speaker 1: to treat KPJ the same way I treat Zoo. I'm
Speaker 1: looking to see if KPJ can be a real winning
Speaker 1: player in this league. I already know if viatz Zubas
Speaker 1: is that. I don't need to worry about that with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he needs to play better. The Clippers need to find
Speaker 1: him more like, it goes both ways. I've criticized him
Speaker 1: even with the great season of beats zoobots is having.
Speaker 1: I have criticized his free throw shooting as good as
Speaker 1: he has been this season, where he's played at like
Speaker 1: a if you're an all star level for the center position.
Speaker 1: I have still criticized this free throw shooting. But this
Speaker 1: guy will come in here and say, oh, you're biased, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think you're getting a time out? Check
Speaker 1: your own bias, Like stop caring about one player more
Speaker 1: than the team. These stands, they don't care about the Clippers.
Speaker 1: They have agendas. They just care about promoting their player
Speaker 1: and protecting them at all times, regardless of the type
Speaker 1: of game they have like, I'm here to find the
Speaker 1: truth of what is the best version of this Clippers
Speaker 1: team and who needs to be playing. Clippers lose by
Speaker 1: eighteen in Okay See to the Thunder final score one
Speaker 1: sixteen to ninety eight. They are back back again at
Speaker 1: into a Dome on Saturday. They're taking on the Atlanta Hawks.
Speaker 1: Will Kawhi Leonard be back. You're gonna hear from Lob
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Speaker 1: It continues, ry a guy in here trying to compare
Speaker 1: KPJ to Aviza Zoo Bots. After the Clippers lose one
Speaker 1: sixteen to ninety eight in Oklahoma City to the Thunder.
Speaker 1: This guy, Alfie Chico, said, I am a stan yet
Speaker 1: here you are saying Zoo is a winning player. Zoo
Speaker 1: is a winning player. He wins his minutes consistently. It's
Speaker 1: one of the highest plus minuses on the team. I
Speaker 1: don't think you understand what makes somebody a winning player?
Speaker 1: What has he won like, seriously, I got time to
Speaker 1: go back and forth with you. I don't get wrecked this,
Speaker 1: this is a pure block. I got better things to
Speaker 1: talk about. Appreciate you guys that bring a little bit
Speaker 1: of sanity to the chat here after the Clippers lose
Speaker 1: and people think KPJ is on the same pedestal as
Speaker 1: of eats A Zubats, even though he has done nothing
Speaker 1: in this league to prove that. I am hoping for
Speaker 1: the best with KPJ. I see the vision, I see
Speaker 1: why the Clippers are giving him this opportunity completely, but
Speaker 1: he still has to prove that you can win periods
Speaker 1: of games when he's out there on the court. That's
Speaker 1: what we need to see, and we haven't seen it
Speaker 1: so far. And he had a really good first half.
Speaker 1: And I can understand the logic of he was trying
Speaker 1: to force it in this and half because nobody was
Speaker 1: getting anything. Fine, if it wasn't, if there weren't all
Speaker 1: these other plays from him that, you know, change that also,
Speaker 1: I guess should be added into the context of my
Speaker 1: viewpoint on KPJ. I'd say, yeah, you're right, it's just
Speaker 1: a uh, it's a one off. But it hasn't been
Speaker 1: a one off and we're thirty four games in. Like
Speaker 1: there are guys in here like Rock in the chat,
Speaker 1: like he's he's a KPJ fan obviously, but he's not
Speaker 1: a stand he's not crazy. He's not saying like KPJ
Speaker 1: and Zoo have proven the same amount of stuff in
Speaker 1: the NBA so far, they haven't. A visa Zoo Bots
Speaker 1: is one of the better centers in the league. Now
Speaker 1: it gets proven. Ibata Zoobots needs more touches, if anything.
Speaker 1: With KPJ, he needs to take less shots, get others involved,
Speaker 1: because I've seen his playmaking get a little bit better
Speaker 1: it has. I think it's just so up and down.
Speaker 1: And I'm not putting this loss on him at all.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to point out why Alfie is no
Speaker 1: longer going to be seeing the chat here because anybody
Speaker 1: that can't understand the difference between those two players, I
Speaker 1: can't sit here and debate it. I want you to
Speaker 1: hear from La Murray of the Athletic But first, let's
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Speaker 1: All right, so pregame, we add the law on La
Speaker 1: Murray and I had to ask him the most appropriate
Speaker 1: question for what's coming on Saturday with the Clippers back
Speaker 1: home had into a dome taken on the Atlanta Hawks,
Speaker 1: and him putting out the report of the last week
Speaker 1: that that is the target return date for Kawhi keyword there. Target.
Speaker 1: Nothing has been confirmed or made official by this Clippers
Speaker 1: team yet, But here was Law Murray pregame giving us
Speaker 1: an update Saturday night, back it into a dome, the
Speaker 1: Clippers will be taken on the Atlanta Hawks. So La Murray,
Speaker 1: it begs the question, is Kawhi Leonard still on track
Speaker 1: to be available to go in his first game this
Speaker 1: season on Saturday?
Speaker 4: Well, when I reported last week there was a target dates,
Speaker 4: that's all I could really say. And that's not something
Speaker 4: that the organization is pushing or anything like that. That's
Speaker 4: Kawhi's target date. And we know that just because Kawhi
Speaker 4: feels like he's ready or or has a date circle,
Speaker 4: that doesn't always work out. We've seen that across the
Speaker 4: league with a lot of guys. You know, they've had
Speaker 4: to had their wrap up period. They might feel like
Speaker 4: they're ready and then it doesn't work out. So I
Speaker 4: will say he hasn't been ruled out. That is a
Speaker 4: positive as far as I'm concerned. And you know, when
Speaker 4: you look at what's happening to he got to practice
Speaker 4: with the G League team and that was a pretty
Speaker 4: big deal. He went through multiple practices. Sound like it
Speaker 4: came out came out pretty well with that, and so
Speaker 4: we'll have to see if the team is willing to
Speaker 4: put him out there for Saturday night. So I'm just
Speaker 4: going to say that's a lot there. All I thing
Speaker 4: really is, nothing has changed based off of what I
Speaker 4: reported last week.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna admit this, it doesn't sound as promising as
Speaker 1: it did when you first put out their report. I
Speaker 1: think that's fair to say Daniel West has shaking his
Speaker 1: head too. It seems more uncertain than when the initial
Speaker 1: report came out. I'm just gonna be honest about that.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys feel in here, But again,
Speaker 1: the team has not confirmed any of this. This is
Speaker 1: just lat Marie of the athletic I know he has
Speaker 1: good source sources and good information. I'm not doubting any
Speaker 1: of that. But until I think this is how most
Speaker 1: people feel, until you see Kawhi out there on the court,
Speaker 1: in the starting lineup, like it's hard to believe it.
Speaker 1: He hasn't played since Game three of that playoff series
Speaker 1: back in April against the Maps. He hasn't been ruled
Speaker 1: out yet, that's true, Bryant pointing that out. Jay Dogg said,
Speaker 1: shaking my head. I told you guys. Mark Jack said,
Speaker 1: I'm a big Kawhi fan, but I'm almost not caring anymore.
Speaker 1: Not trying to be funny, but when he comes back,
Speaker 1: or if he comes back, I'm happy. Obviously, If there's
Speaker 1: any breaking news regarding Kawhi and his availability for that
Speaker 1: game on Saturday, we'll have you covered at Clipper's Talk
Speaker 1: on the YouTube side. I will go live right away.
Speaker 1: But until then, it's just it feels like a little
Speaker 1: bit in question in doubt versus last week, everybody said
Speaker 1: he's back on this date. It never was that. It
Speaker 1: never was a guarantee. It was a target date, but
Speaker 1: I thought things might be a little bit more solidified
Speaker 1: at this point with it just less than forty eight
Speaker 1: hours away. It could still happen, But nothing is definite.
Speaker 1: Mike and La you're on Clipper stop without a Mamason?
Speaker 3: Was that?
Speaker 5: Mike, Hey, Adam, you know I understand that obviously. Okay
Speaker 5: See is great at causing teams to have turnovers, and
Speaker 5: you know that's what they do. But the annoying thing
Speaker 5: for me is that this has been a problem with
Speaker 5: the Clippers all season, even when they play teams that
Speaker 5: aren't okay See. You know, we still have have issues
Speaker 5: with turnovers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you.
Speaker 5: Know it's you know, turnovers and free throws. I'm not saying,
Speaker 5: you know, we lost the game tonight because of free throws,
Speaker 5: but you know we missed six of them, and it
Speaker 5: just I mean, you know, those have been problems with
Speaker 5: with other teams, and I just don't know how. I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't see you getting Kawhi back at making you know,
Speaker 5: such a huge difference in either of those.
Speaker 1: Oh, it will in either of us. I can tell
Speaker 1: you exactly why it will, because one of the reasons
Speaker 1: they've been turning the basketball over so much is because
Speaker 1: it's the thing I've been saying since day one this year.
Speaker 1: They have a thirty five year old with the usage
Speaker 1: rating of a twenty five year old in James Harden
Speaker 1: and then without him tonight. Okay, So now Chris Dunn
Speaker 1: is your lead ball handler all of a sudden, and
Speaker 1: now KPJ has the ball in his hands more, and
Speaker 1: you have other lineups, and you're going up against the
Speaker 1: team that creates the most deflections in the league, that
Speaker 1: creates the most turnovers in the league, and you don't
Speaker 1: have your traditional floor general. And even when you do
Speaker 1: have him, yes, he is often gassed because he's playing
Speaker 1: heavy minutes and trying to do things like he used
Speaker 1: to in Houston because they don't have a better option
Speaker 1: right now. When Kawhi is there, the ball will be
Speaker 1: in his hands a lot. That usage rating for James
Speaker 1: Harden will drop significantly quickly. I'm not saying it's gonna
Speaker 1: happen overnight within the first week with Kawhi back, but
Speaker 1: over time, I do believe they will start turning the
Speaker 1: basketball over less.
Speaker 5: I hope you're right, man, I hope you are right.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Appreciate the phone call Mike, Mike pointing out some of
Speaker 1: the flaws and errors with this Clippers team and just
Speaker 1: weaknesses that have been going on all season long. And
Speaker 1: I get it. I just I don't know how anybody.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying everybody watched my preview going into this game,
Speaker 1: but I tried to make it very clear, this is
Speaker 1: what okayse does really well, and that's what happened tonight.
Speaker 1: So I wasn't surprised by any of it. You have
Speaker 1: a team that turns the ball over a lot against
Speaker 1: a team that turns the opposition over a lot, what
Speaker 1: did you think was gonna happen? I admit the Clippers
Speaker 1: did a nice job early on. I think some of
Speaker 1: that was because the OKC thunder just weren't as focused
Speaker 1: because they knew that the Clippers didn't have James Harden
Speaker 1: and they have bigger fish to fry tomorrow night against
Speaker 1: the Knicks. I could see that part of this was
Speaker 1: probably a let down from them. Out of the gates.
Speaker 1: They got serious in the second half. They turned up
Speaker 1: the volume, they turned up the gas, and that is
Speaker 1: when the Clippers started to struggle, and their ball pressure
Speaker 1: was much better and they had eight turnovers in the
Speaker 1: third quarter of the Clippers league is seventeen points. Some
Speaker 1: people in here talking about just real big picture stuff
Speaker 1: like what can we get for Kawhi Leonard trade? It's
Speaker 1: like he hasn't played a game, not much. He hasn't
Speaker 1: played a game yet. This guy, Adam rr is like,
Speaker 1: can they win the champion ship this year? Tell me?
Speaker 1: Can they trade Kawhi? Tell me? He's just asking this
Speaker 1: very casual. I'm sorry, Adam, uh questions that we have
Speaker 1: talked about four months, which is you know, it's just
Speaker 1: can somebody else handle that in the chat please? I
Speaker 1: gotta see these phone calls. Uh, hey, Zeus and al Hambro,
Speaker 1: you're on Clippers Soft with Adam Mawson. What's up his zoos?
Speaker 6: Hey, what's up Adam? Thanks for taking my call?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 6: Was the rough loss man? Two losses in a row.
Speaker 6: It's it's a bummer. You know, we have been playing,
Speaker 6: you know, fairly well. But like you said, man, what
Speaker 6: do you expect when we ain't got you know, Kawhi Leonard,
Speaker 6: and when we ain't got our next best guy James Harden,
Speaker 6: which I mean you know he's been he's been carrying
Speaker 6: a huge, uh a huge part of this load for us,
Speaker 6: and you know it's just, you know, we we really
Speaker 6: can't expect much more, man. You know, like the guys
Speaker 6: that we needed to step up, they stepped up, you know.
Speaker 6: But they're a great role players, great complimentary pieces when
Speaker 6: we have you know, Norman Pow and James Harden and
Speaker 6: Kawhi all firing on all cylinders. And unfortunately we don't
Speaker 6: have that, man, So you know, this is what we're
Speaker 6: gonna expect. But still, you know, you know, on the
Speaker 6: bright side, man, you know, a mere coffee what he did, Mobamba,
Speaker 6: which you know, he's been very inconsistent, you know, this
Speaker 6: season and stuff.
Speaker 2: Man, but he's been bad.
Speaker 1: He's been bad. He's been bad. All right, all right,
Speaker 1: he was good on the first half to night, and
Speaker 1: I hoped he can build off of this because I
Speaker 1: saw a different level of energy from Mobamba. I thought
Speaker 1: the first couple of games with the Clippers he played
Speaker 1: with more spirit, more activity out there, and I saw
Speaker 1: that again tonight. I just need more of that now.
Speaker 1: I wonder, and I have wondered if his three point
Speaker 1: shot basically being non existent so far this season, when
Speaker 1: he has been a league average three point shooter at
Speaker 1: seven feet tall throughout his career, that is a part
Speaker 1: of his game. I've wondered, because he was shooting twenty
Speaker 1: percent from three heading into this game, if that has
Speaker 1: killed his confidence, and you know he knocked one down
Speaker 1: and maybe that helped lift his spirits a little bit.
Speaker 6: That could be it, man, You know, that could be
Speaker 6: a you know, so you know when when you when
Speaker 6: they say you get the yips, you know, nothing's falling
Speaker 6: for you and stuff, and you just get into your
Speaker 6: head and and it's you know, it becomes even tougher
Speaker 6: and tougher to score, man, until you can break that
Speaker 6: and get like you said, get your confidence back. Man.
Speaker 6: But I didn't want to touch on something else. I've
Speaker 6: seen this, this picture circulating on social media with Kawhi,
Speaker 6: you know, back at practice stuff like that. It was
Speaker 6: about like say, maybe like a few days ago on Instagram, but.
Speaker 1: Do you follow me? Do you listen to the show
Speaker 1: on Clippers Talk? Are you talking about versus the right leg?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've already dressed it ten different times.
Speaker 6: All right, man, Sorry to bring it up again, man,
Speaker 6: but yeah.
Speaker 1: Everybody trying to make something out of one angle because
Speaker 1: Clippers read it, you know, misery loves company. They just
Speaker 1: want to be doomers or the guy named depressed Clipper
Speaker 1: fan or something like that. On Instagram. First of all,
Speaker 1: they were saying like his left legs. Something was wrong
Speaker 1: with it. It looked flexed. His right leg wasn't. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to acknowledge that stuff. I literally saw Kawhi
Speaker 1: at media day. I didn't notice the difference between both legs.
Speaker 1: Like guys, If there was some significant difference between both
Speaker 1: legs to that degree, do you think the training staff
Speaker 1: would have noticed it and wouldn't have picked up on
Speaker 1: a Well, maybe he's over compensating or one leg is
Speaker 1: too weak for him to play right now? You think
Speaker 1: they would let him play if that picture was anything
Speaker 1: to be concerned about. Uh? Yeah, Alfonso and San Dimas.
Speaker 1: Great night here, Alfonso. What's up here on Clipper stoff
Speaker 1: without Amazan?
Speaker 7: Hey, how's it.
Speaker 2: Going at him?
Speaker 7: I had a question. I know we got some injuries
Speaker 7: on the team, and you know, Kawhi some.
Speaker 1: Their best player hasn't played a game yet, and then
Speaker 1: James Harden doesn't play tonight, and some people want to say, well,
Speaker 1: the Clippers, they just laid down or they didn't play hard.
Speaker 1: It's like, my god, can you give the best team
Speaker 1: in the Western Conference some credit? It turns out when
Speaker 1: they turn up the gas, they're tough to hang with.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean the Clippers weren't trying hard. Okay, see
Speaker 1: is that good?
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, most definitely? But U But as far as
Speaker 7: I know the trade deadline coming up, I was wondering, like,
Speaker 7: like I know, like on the margins, like kind of
Speaker 7: like a trade for like a Cam Johnson or like
Speaker 7: Collin Sexton and be made.
Speaker 1: How are they gonna trade for Cam Johnson? Like, here's
Speaker 1: the point I keep making Alfonso? First of all, why
Speaker 1: would they make a trade to raise their ceiling when
Speaker 1: they can only win a championship if Kawhi Leonard's healthy
Speaker 1: and they haven't seen Kawhi Leonard out there yet and
Speaker 1: to see if he can't stay healthy, Why would you
Speaker 1: make a move and give up more future assets if
Speaker 1: you don't even know if Kawhi can stay healthy, because
Speaker 1: you have no chance to win a championship if you can't. Right, yeah,
Speaker 1: so so so should they see? So should they see
Speaker 1: Alfonso first before making a trade and giving up more
Speaker 1: future assets if Kawhi can stay healthy?
Speaker 7: Of course I agree with that totally, But I'm not
Speaker 7: like trying to like do go crazy or you know,
Speaker 7: give up crazy draftings?
Speaker 1: What do you think is gonna take for Cam Johnson,
Speaker 1: my man, Cam Johnson is going to take at least
Speaker 1: a first round pick.
Speaker 7: Yeah, unfortunately, Yeah, that's that's true. Then then yeah, then
Speaker 7: that's not a trade to be amazing. And that the
Speaker 7: Lakers just did with Phinney Smith, like I know, like
Speaker 7: it's like three gave up three second round picks, like
Speaker 7: you know, I was curious, like you know, like with
Speaker 7: the Clippers they were able to do that kind of
Speaker 7: a trade for him, and they you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: But like you said, you gotta.
Speaker 2: Wait for Kawhi.
Speaker 1: He is, he's a better player than Finny Smith. He
Speaker 1: would cost you more than what they gave up for
Speaker 1: Finney Smith. So those two players aren't equal. They can
Speaker 1: get a lot more. And the problem is, Alfonso, and
Speaker 1: I appreciate the question, I do, but every team in
Speaker 1: the league just about has more assets to give up
Speaker 1: to win a bidding war against the Clippers, right, yes,
Speaker 1: So if any other team is also going for that
Speaker 1: good player, and they are because they know about him too,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough for the Clippers to be able
Speaker 1: to get them, nor should they be trying to right
Speaker 1: now until this Ye how Kawhi Leonard looks, but I
Speaker 1: appreciate you, my guy. Anything else, No, Well.
Speaker 7: That's thing I know, well, that's that's the thing where
Speaker 7: I know they're holding on a PDA Tucker because of
Speaker 7: the money situation, so they could like fit in some
Speaker 7: kind of trade if possible. So if there's nothing out,
Speaker 7: I guess, like the team's not like you said, there's
Speaker 7: no worth worth Well, you got a way to see
Speaker 7: with Kawhi. Then you know the PG Tuckers that they
Speaker 7: just just eat it for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: I guess, well, that's interesting. I mean the PJ. Tucker
Speaker 1: eleven million dollars expiring deal that you bring up there, Alfonso,
Speaker 1: that is something that will be sought after I think
Speaker 1: near the trade deadline where a team knows they're out
Speaker 1: of it and they're just looking at their salary going
Speaker 1: into next year, and maybe they want them cap really
Speaker 1: for the ability to get under the first or second apron.
Speaker 1: So they give up a player that makes eleven million
Speaker 1: but has two more years left on his deal, and
Speaker 1: isn't it expiring like PJ Tuckers is, they might be
Speaker 1: able to get something decent for PJ Tucker, Not Cam Johnson,
Speaker 1: not calling Sexton, unless you know he's included with other
Speaker 1: assets and other draft capital or something like that. But
Speaker 1: I don't think it's out of the Roman possibility that
Speaker 1: they are able to trade him for something. How good
Speaker 1: that something is, we'll see, but it's a good question.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you all. Fonso, call me back on Saturday,
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, all right, there's all funds. Though, we'll
Speaker 1: take a pick of time out. We'll come back. Clippers
Speaker 1: lose badly again, so we're talking about everything, but the
Speaker 1: loss again. They were up by four and a half.
Speaker 1: They were playing really good basketball. Okay, so he was
Speaker 1: also playing I don't know their D minus brand of basketball.
Speaker 1: Once they started playing their B minus brand of basketball,
Speaker 1: you sell the difference in talent between the two teams
Speaker 1: and the third quarter. They won that quarter by twenty
Speaker 1: two points. They won the game by eighteen. They won
Speaker 1: thirteen straight. It's okay. Doesn't mean the Clippers weren't playing
Speaker 1: hard just because they got beat up. Sometimes you're just
Speaker 1: at such a talent disadvantage it doesn't matter. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys have heard this. It's a players
Speaker 1: league and they have a lot of them. I'm Oudam
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Speaker 1: I feel like I need to bring back some perspective
Speaker 1: here and give you the uh bird's eye view. The
Speaker 1: Clippers are nineteen and fifteen in the Western Conference and
Speaker 1: have not had Kawhi Leonard for a game yet. For
Speaker 1: people that want to talk about, oh, they aren't playing
Speaker 1: hard or the effort isn't there, I repeat, the Clippers
Speaker 1: are nineteen and fifteen and haven't had their best player
Speaker 1: in one game yet. Tell me another team without their
Speaker 1: number one options so far this season that has a
Speaker 1: winning record, that hasn't had their best player for one game,
Speaker 1: that has a winning record. Tell me who that team is. Hey,
Speaker 1: welcome back in his slippers, Socck. I'm out of Masland
Speaker 1: eight six six nine seven seventy eight six six ninety
Speaker 1: seven two five seventy Harold in North Hollywood? Is he
Speaker 1: gonna stick the knife in again? Harold?
Speaker 5: Don't do it.
Speaker 1: Don't do it, Harold, No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: Hey.
Speaker 2: I like you, Adam, I like you too, But I
Speaker 2: think I'm going crazy with this Kawhi? When's Kawhi? I
Speaker 2: even mentioned to you earlier in the year, I said,
Speaker 2: when'd you come back? When you said, you said maybe
Speaker 2: after the All Star Game. The season is pretty much
Speaker 2: it's not as kay, and we still don't have Kawai.
Speaker 2: I don't even think.
Speaker 1: Harold play, Harold, what do you want him to do?
Speaker 1: Do you want him to scream at his knee and
Speaker 1: tell his knee stop being hurt so much? Knee stop
Speaker 1: doing that? Is that the logic you are espousing here.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is if you know people pay good
Speaker 2: money to go to a Clipper games and they want
Speaker 2: to see the stars, well, this is a general problem
Speaker 2: we have in the league now, So.
Speaker 1: Guys who are legitimately hurt should play like he should
Speaker 1: just cut off his leg and run and hopscotch out there.
Speaker 1: What do you want him to do? No? No, what's
Speaker 1: the solution, Harold? Do you have a solution, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm wondering.
Speaker 2: Yes, I do. Okay, this is what my solution is.
Speaker 2: Don't play Adam, tell him to take the rest of
Speaker 2: season off. If it's in your head about that knee, then.
Speaker 1: Harold, Harold let me finish. You just said it hurts,
Speaker 1: It hurts the league, and it hurts the fans because
Speaker 1: you can't play right now. But if he is able
Speaker 1: to play, if he does get healthy, you don't want
Speaker 1: him to play. When he is able to he will
Speaker 1: never be one that It's not about one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: It's about healthy enough to be able to play.
Speaker 2: Adam, he if he's not one hundred percent, he won't
Speaker 2: not play, he won't eat.
Speaker 1: It depends on how you defined one hundred percent. If
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to worry about exacerbating the injury worsening it.
Speaker 1: Like Harold, you know he tried to play last year
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and there was a play where he
Speaker 1: caught now up and was hanging on the rim and
Speaker 1: was scared to drop from it because of the impact
Speaker 1: on his right knee. Yet he was still trying to
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no no no no
Speaker 1: no no, you don't get it switched up to the subject.
Speaker 1: Do you know that let play it hurt was hanging
Speaker 1: from the rim and swinging from it, waiting to be
Speaker 1: more still to drop to the floor because he was
Speaker 1: afraid of the impact on his right knee. Did you
Speaker 1: know that happened. No okay, no no no no no
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no,
Speaker 1: because you have been saying he won't play, and let's
Speaker 1: he's one hundred percent. Do you think he was one
Speaker 1: hundred percent while he was scared to fall to the
Speaker 1: floor on that knee, Harold, Yes or no?
Speaker 3: I want to make a point, say you know because you.
Speaker 1: Have to pivot because you know I'm right? No, Harold, Harold,
Speaker 1: I'm giving you a clear cut example of him playing
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent. You just said, Harold, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: go grown as yourself. You're the one that came on
Speaker 1: pull him down, Harold, if you if you don't, if
Speaker 1: you don't want to acknowledge the fact that obviously he
Speaker 1: has played through it when it's not one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: he wasn't right. Going back to twenty fourteen, during that
Speaker 1: Spurs run, he wasn't right and played through it. His
Speaker 1: trainers have said that watching him limp around during the
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen playoffs, he wasn't right for the Raptors and
Speaker 1: played through it. So if you're going to say that
Speaker 1: he wasn't one hundred or he won't play unless he's
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I'm going to point to actual examples
Speaker 1: when he did play and wasn't one hundred percent. Is
Speaker 1: that fair? Is that fair? Harold?
Speaker 6: Why did he Oh my god, he.
Speaker 1: Just run through that point because he thought he was healthy. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'll answer yours, Harold, because he thought he was healthy.
Speaker 1: Because he thought he was healthy. No, no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: answering yours. Harold. Are you going to acknowledge that I'm
Speaker 1: answering it? I am not.
Speaker 2: I am acknowledging, fans.
Speaker 1: I just answered your question, and every time I answer it,
Speaker 1: you just try to move on to something else. Harold.
Speaker 2: I asked you a question, and I just answered it.
Speaker 7: I just did, Harold.
Speaker 1: You're talking about me not answering your question that I
Speaker 1: just answered.
Speaker 3: Harold.
Speaker 1: He wanted to play because he thought he was healthy,
Speaker 1: and then there was a setback. Do you understand he
Speaker 1: thought he was healthy. He thought he was healthy. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: so if Kawhi thinks he's healthy, you shouldn't play basketball.
Speaker 2: He was in healthy, they sent him home.
Speaker 1: If he thought he was healthy, should he not want
Speaker 1: to play basketball? So, so first you're saying he won't
Speaker 1: play unless he's one hundred percent. Now you're saying he
Speaker 1: wasn't healthy and tried to play during Team USA. Thanks
Speaker 1: for the phone call, Harold, you prove my point. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Well, take a quick time out. This is
Speaker 1: not the night. This is not the night Chad is.
Speaker 1: Chad is having a field day with Harold. Iither you
Speaker 1: guys will love this. I have to take a quick
Speaker 1: time out because we got one left and we gotta
Speaker 1: get out. More Clippers coming up next year.
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Speaker 1: Clippers lose and Clipper Nation is losing their minds again.
Speaker 1: The Clippers are nineteen and fifteen without Kawhi Leonard. I
Speaker 1: should have just turned the mic on and said that
Speaker 1: over and over again for like forty five minutes. That
Speaker 1: would have kept me more saying than some of the
Speaker 1: comments and phone calls that I've gotten tonight. Thanks Harold
Speaker 1: for contradicting yourself in five different ways. Oh soft pretzel logic,
Speaker 1: Love you, Harold. Clippers lose one sixteen to ninety eight
Speaker 1: in Okay. See to the thunder. They're back after it.
Speaker 1: On Saturday, back home at into It Dome. We'll have
Speaker 1: you update on Clippers Talk if we have news on
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard, if he'll be available before we get out
Speaker 1: of here. I do want to thank the Clippers organization,
Speaker 1: Ralph Lawler, Brian Seeman, Noah Ego, Carlo Jimenez, Dan West.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry we didn't get to your segment. I was
Speaker 1: too busy arguing with disgruntled man do I appreciate, but
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Daniel West much more until Saturday with
Speaker 1: the pregame show starting at six point thirty. I'm out
Speaker 1: of Mason. Everyone take care, we'll talk to you then.
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