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General Conference weekend, Easter weekend edition of Cougar Sports. Let's

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start in. First, I need to know is a Jay

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whoso the new tribal chief.

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Speaker 2: I'll get his thoughts on that.

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Speaker 3: After the show, we got Brett always bringing the hammer.

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show putting out all the content. Brett, how are we

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Speaker 5: I love that it's cold, man, I love that it's cold.

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I know that's an unpopular opinion. I know there's you're smiling,

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Speaker 6: I woke up this morning, I.

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Speaker 5: Walked out shot in my car and I felt like

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it was October amen, and I loved it. I loved

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just sitting in the thirty degrees. I love turning the

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Speaker 6: I love that it's.

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Speaker 5: Cold because, to be fair, the last alumni game that

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Speaker 3: We need the moisture, we need all the cold. We

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the five foot ten five foot eleven. Black plays slot receiver,

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Speaker 2: There has to be there, absolutely has to be whole

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concept that I have to pay for a service. So

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that I can pay money to the government is so

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Speaker 6: Will turn a business out of anything.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, and I do enough, Like I mean,

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Speaker 2: And it's just.

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Speaker 2: And then I'm so dumb that I'm I'm absolutely certain

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much and just be done with it that that I

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Speaker 5: I'm sure that's their strategy to they just wear you

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Speaker 3: Smart device, we need to get you set up and

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and you Joe Holloway, you know, and the.

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Speaker 6: Show us how you really feel.

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Speaker 2: Hey, look, I want to stay balanced. I want to

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stay balanced, and this might reveal you know. I mean,

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I've revealed you know where I stand politically with things.

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not any particular administration. It's just the government. Right.

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Speaker 5: I don't like giving money away. I don't care if

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it's to bother, to research, to Obama. But like, I

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don't want to get money away. I want to keep

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all my money. Look, I had no problem if I

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Speaker 2: I like both of you.

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Speaker 6: I love you. I would not give you my I'm

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Speaker 2: This is why I'm friends, because you were just so

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honest with me. You look me you outside, I'd being

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smiled with you. Said that personal, and I grieve with it.

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Speaker 3: She said, it's not personal, But I just what, you know,

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poor with it already. But yeah, you know, maybe want

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Speaker 2: It just gnaws me. But I want to come off

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that because it's it's a it's a it's about covering springball.

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Speaker 7: It is.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say it's a it's alumni day, g

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm done with the text. Are you going

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna have a lot of media opportunities, lots of

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they missed out on him in high school. And you

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from Utah State. So some of those guys, you know

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and the other guys were with Stanford, and you just

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state respectfully, yeah, it kind of makes sense to Pockeys

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he goed. But but I think all those guys are

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in future years. But Pocky, now that's your left ackle.

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It's done. It's done. I mean they meant they mentioned

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Pocky from the start.

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Speaker 6: I think a rod I don't want to spoil it,

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Speaker 2: They pointed out so much, and he's the first. They're

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very happy with him, yep, very happy, and they're not

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hiding it. It's like, yeah, he's we gave him first

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reps and he's still there, and he's exactly if a

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Speaker 3: I look, I know they want to carry competition over,

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the transferport. If a guy wins the battle, just name

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Speaker 2: I spoke with katu Uluabe actually the first week of

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Sounds like a leader speaks to the leader of all

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the of all the stuff I've heard about Katou Luabe,

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and I believe all of it. What a Rod said.

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Someone just asked randomly, are there any defensive guys that

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stood out? He just said, Kato Alabi's making plays every day. Well,

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that was the question I asked him every day. Good job, Ronnie,

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because that was a very notable thing. When the offensive

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means something. You know, you take that to the bank, right,

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But you pair that with an offensive coach like man

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Speaker 3: Jack Kelly when you know they prior to last season. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Gonna be nice.

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Speaker 8: Nah.

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Speaker 2: And now they're saying he's the second fastest guy on

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Speaker 2: And we've heard good things about Jake Clifton. Yep, Yeah,

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that's the guy I want to interview. I want to

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get to know history. I don't think anyone's interviewed Jake Clifton.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, coming off of a mission, was at Kansas State.

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I remember contacting Jake prior to his mission. Hey, could

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you come on to talk about your commitment to Kansas

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State and decision of going to mission, And he just

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didn't want to rub people the wrong way. And then

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I had contact him, but it was too late because

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he already signed. So you know, the guy tried to

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get him in that period because one's been in the paper.

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It's over and Jake say, yeah, this is pretty funny

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you're reaching out to me.

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Speaker 2: I ended up at BUYU.

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Speaker 3: I was like, Hey, everybody's path eventually crosses at some point,

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you know, they end up with the why anyway, g man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the battle for middle it's okay.

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Speaker 3: Can I just say it right now that I thin

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Kata louw is gonna be the starady middle linebacker.

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Speaker 2: He is, and there's gonna be two starting middle backers. Yeah,

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they'll be rotating way. He's going to be running a

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three four defense. Just be ready for it. Okay, that's

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gonna because that's your three three five. That's gonna be

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the base formation. You want to get the best eleven

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guys on the field, and Sarah is still there? Is

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he a part of the best eleven? That's bad. He's

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he needs to have a really good fall camp.

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Speaker 3: Bro, he's got up it because they're dude, Like Kelly said,

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you have this. You asked him that question. Kelly said,

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you have his competition. Kelly was very straightforward. You yeah,

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you better look, you better wake up. That's a good

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that's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I like c l A a lot. I like

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his skill level. But but man, he's gonna be battling.

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He's gonna be battling big time. For It's funny Harrison.

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Speaker 3: He took Harrison Taggart's job right because it was competition,

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and now someone else is here to take his job.

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Speaker 2: Hey, here's another guy that started to percolate that I

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think a lot of people forgot about. Is we were

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all in love with Lucy TALMOI Peo and and the

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guy from Texas whose name I'm forgetting the d and

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what's his name? I'm getting This is what happens when

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you're when you get old guys, is.

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: You st from Texas? I was thinking from Texas, no

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school he last played. People kind of forgot about Hunter Klegg. Yeah,

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Hunter Clegg has kind of been forgotten about all line

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start of the season. He was ahead of all those guys.

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He was, and he's starting to percolate again. Yes, Kelly

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popingas mentioned him several times and he's mentioned him at linebacker, Oh,

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which is interesting. That's interesting. Yeah, so he's gonna be

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that hybrid. I think they want him to be the

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Logan Latui. He's athletic enough. Have you seen his tape

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and you've seen his tape and Ice Caning I ask

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you that playing in America Fork, he's athletic. He mentioned

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him as a leader and very star. Yep, former four star.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget about Hunter was committed at Utah, came to BYU.

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Speaker 2: Gotta put that out there. He has stuff, man, and

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he has the coaches trust yep and I see him

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as a Logan Latwoy type. I think that's what he's

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eventually going to be for this defense. Guys, Logan Latulia

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was good. He had as good a year defensively as

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anybody on the team. Last year. He did a lot

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of things. But when I saw him down the field,

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covering guys twenty three years down the field and not

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only doing it but doing a good job at it,

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that was tremendous for this defense. So anyway, I always

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go back. This defense has so much ability to be variable,

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the depth on the on the lines and the linebackers.

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I want to interview Lewis Walker because to me, and

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I've been on a record on this, the bigger loss

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was Gennaro Guildford over Jay Hill. Seems crazy. I'm with

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you know, I bought into that. We've been trying to

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push that that. Talking about what Gennaro Guildford was able

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to produce with that cornerback position was extraordin There's a

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lot of pressure on lois really really really extraordinary, not

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the fact that he was able to attract town to BYU,

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but the fact that he was able to keep them

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within the program. It's not easy for double minorities at

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b YU. It's been a battle since I started covering

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BYU and and yet to go to the junior college

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where I was like, there's no way we can keep

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these guys in the program for more than a year

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or two years. That's generally been been the case, and

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General has made a home for these guys. It's like, Hey,

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I was just like you guys, and and it's been

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a really really significant thing for this BWAYU football program.

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And I hope that it can be maintained that and

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it worries me. Yeah, let's get to as far as

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attracting the talent and then maintaining the talent. I think

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that's something. Yeah, it's definitely a question mark.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's get to the rest of We're gonna get

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into some AJ debounds to sound here in the nitty

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gritty AJ playing around with the draft, he's I think

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he said something as a joke. Brett found this sound

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club got to give credit credit to our digital content

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creator here at ESPN the fan. But then Aj kinda

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I feel like is in mud because it kind of

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feels like, oh, he was nonchalant sideye and laughing, joking

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about not coming back, and now all of a sudden,

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it's not that people are asking him pressing him about

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it rightfully, so he kind of feel like is stuck.

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Speaker 2: What did he have to say?

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Speaker 3: We're gonna discuss it here momentarily, but we do that

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Speaker 2: Pooka Nakola is a good dude. He is, just so

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people know. But also at these moral claus like you

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funny that everybody procrastinates to the last minute to do

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Speaker 2: We as well haven't done it.

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I don't know if you heard this, but look, I

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love AJ and he's a great player. But sometimes when

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you joke, and we know bo E Sports Nation at

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the app for fool's joke if your joke too far?

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Does that this was a j on Yahoo Sports. He's,

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you know, revealing why you know why he came to

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by you and talking about it. They asked him if

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he's coming back, let's tune into what he had to say.

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Speaker 7: Challenge me to be more of a vocalated So I

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tried to show a lot of my personality. And you

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don't talk to the guys more and try to bring

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them in closer so we can win some important games.

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Speaker 10: I mean, AJ, you are you are so good in

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handling press and media, And I know you're gonna tap dance,

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but it's my job to ask you. Right, Like season's over,

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you're looking forward a little bit. Have you made any

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decisions about what is next for a j De Maonta

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you want to break on the show?

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Speaker 4: No, I haven't. I haven't talked to my mom.

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Speaker 7: She's actually not here, so I haven't talked to her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what goes into that decision?

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Speaker 4: History, what comes into it her? Whatever she chooses. Has

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it always been the case?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, She's pretty much been making all decisions in life

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for me. She decided where I went to high school.

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She she I said I was going to be like you.

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She confirmed that by you was good for me. So

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she's kind of making.

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Speaker 10: Why do you like, why do you choose to do

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it that way?

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Speaker 7: She just has like a like a nd for things

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like she just I mean, she never steered me the

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wrong way, doesn't matter what in life. Just if I

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ever come to her for some advice or anything, she

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never steered me the wrong way. So you know, I

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have my all my trusts in her and in the

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utmost faith. That's your ma thright, disci for.

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Speaker 11: Me, What are some of the pros and cons that

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you've been dealing with of either coming back to school

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or declaring for the draft.

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Speaker 7: Pros and cons. There is no pros and cons. I

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didn't make a decision, so yours.

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Speaker 10: Whatever mom says, you're you're boo, that's that's where you're

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gonna go. Do you know how she wasits the decision?

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What does she factory?

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Speaker 7: I know that she just she wants me to graduate,

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so she might be basing it off of that.

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Speaker 4: But you gotta actually, I don't know.

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Speaker 10: Do you Do you ever just sit back and think

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about what? Like because there's so many variables, right like

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from a human elementary right like, you could be in

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Utah next year, you could be.

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Speaker 2: In some random MBA city.

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Speaker 10: Like you ever just sit back and and sort of

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think about the fact that so much life could change

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in the next three months.

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Speaker 7: I mean yeah, Like, I mean, I'm I'm on social media.

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I see people putting different jerseys on me, and I

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see all the edits, But I mean, I just try

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to tune it out because I don't even know what

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I'm doing, so I can't really I can't really get

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too excited or anything like that until it's a firm decision.

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Speaker 11: None of us know what we're doing. She just you know,

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peek behind the curtain there. Nobody knows what's going on.

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Do you or your mom have a timeline when you

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Speaker 7: I think you have to declare by a certain day

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if I'm not mistaken, so May first, I think it is.

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Speaker 10: I haven't what is what is BYU said to you

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in this process?

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Speaker 7: I mean, they obviously want me to go, you know,

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make the best decision. Obviously they want me to come

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back play for another year, but also they want all

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their players to go accomplish their programs.

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Speaker 4: So I guess they wouldn't mind either decision that happens.

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Speaker 11: What's the most important factor? And you know you said

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that it's your mom's decision to make. What's the most

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important factor for her in this decision?

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Speaker 7: Like I said, I think she wants me to graduate.

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I don't think I know she wants me to graduate college.

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So I don't know if she's just basing it off

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of yeah, you're gonna stay in school or to graduate,

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or she just wants me to to accomplish my Jeames,

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who knows?

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00:21:02,759 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 10: So if your mom wants you to stay for four

472
00:21:04,519 --> 00:21:05,200
years and get a.

473
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 9: Degree at b YU and play basketball the whole.

474
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,839
Speaker 10: Time, you're in for that, Well, you're you're you're committed

475
00:21:09,839 --> 00:21:12,799
to whatever. Okay, dude, this is this is amazing. This

476
00:21:12,839 --> 00:21:15,519
is great insight for us to learn this about you.

477
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,119
So do have you paid any attention knowing that if

478
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,960
your mom's going to come in and really help factor

479
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:21,599
this decision?

480
00:21:22,039 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna stop right there?

481
00:21:23,559 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 5: Can I Can I just say something whenever you tell

482
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,640
the person you're interviewing, Oh no, man, this is great.

483
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 6: We love the insight we're getting. Do you know what

484
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:30,880
that means?

485
00:21:31,079 --> 00:21:33,839
Speaker 5: That means you, as the interviewer, feel that you may

486
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,079
have offended the person that you're interviewing.

487
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,559
Speaker 6: So no, hey, don't no, no, don't be offended that

488
00:21:39,559 --> 00:21:40,640
we keep asking this.

489
00:21:40,559 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 2: Is that top? Oh my goodness.

490
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 5: I can't tell what was more awkward the fact that

491
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,880
they kept asking or the fact that AJ never really

492
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,359
gave them a straight answer, just just saying I don't

493
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,279
know if it's just because my mom wants me to

494
00:21:55,319 --> 00:21:56,319
follow my dreams or not.

495
00:21:56,559 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 6: Like, I think it was kind of awkward on both sides.

496
00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:00,599
Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong.

497
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 3: This is Jason Fitzen, Caroline Fenton, Right, Yep, they do

498
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:04,839
great work.

499
00:22:04,839 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 2: I'm being honest.

500
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:10,559
Speaker 3: This was a miss for a little bit, like this

501
00:22:10,599 --> 00:22:12,160
is a miss they missed bad.

502
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 2: That was so awkward for you to wrap.

503
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,279
Speaker 3: They keep asking I don't know who's in the back

504
00:22:17,799 --> 00:22:20,799
giving you short but someone saying.

505
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 2: They like, what is this? When they start giving you

506
00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:27,640
the short answer, you just move off of itsionals. I've

507
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,119
been there before. Here's the question I have once the

508
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,480
NBA Draft lottery, Uh May? Is it after when they

509
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,279
have to declare Uh yes, I'm pretty sure. Okay, all right,

510
00:22:38,519 --> 00:22:40,039
because I don't think it's so yeah, I don't think

511
00:22:40,039 --> 00:22:42,359
it's till May. And the draft is in June because

512
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,839
Aj is in a position where he could pick and choose.

513
00:22:44,839 --> 00:22:50,759
And it is interesting because Sunday money. The family's not

514
00:22:50,839 --> 00:22:54,839
lacking for money. They're good, right right. And you the

515
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,160
picture I'll always have of Aj to bounce It was

516
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,880
I was covering just a semi final game with Hurrican

517
00:23:02,079 --> 00:23:07,160
High School soccer right last year at at Zions Big Park.

518
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,240
It she just showed up and just was there.

519
00:23:10,839 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 3: He showed up at at a women's softball event too,

520
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:14,839
kep talking too.

521
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 2: He likes the scene, he's comfortable, he does he wasn't

522
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,440
comfortable in that moment though he hasn't moved on right.

523
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,440
To me, it would be unbelievable if he did not declare.

524
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 3: I mean, when sixty million dollars makes anybody move on,

525
00:23:29,279 --> 00:23:29,880
I think.

526
00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:33,799
Speaker 2: It's still hard for me to believe. But if anyone

527
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:34,920
was gonna do it.

528
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,079
Speaker 5: No, I just wonder why they keep playing this game, right, Like,

529
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,240
why does it he just say? Okay, you know what,

530
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:46,400
it was a joke obviously, Like what was the leverage

531
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,839
point that makes you say, I don't know, man, he's

532
00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:51,000
caught up now. The only reason you say that, you

533
00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:54,119
go back to the only reason you do that interview, which,

534
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,119
by the way, why did he do it?

535
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 2: He's weird today?

536
00:23:57,799 --> 00:24:00,160
Speaker 5: Well, no, no, no, why did he do the interview you

537
00:24:00,319 --> 00:24:03,440
with Deseret News to like drop that bombshell? Not that

538
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,319
they're not a big deal, but like, of all the

539
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,920
places he could have said, I might not go, why

540
00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:11,599
do it there? That's first number two is why what's

541
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,839
your leverage to say? While I might stay like, what

542
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,680
are you hoping that happens?

543
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,319
Speaker 2: I don't think there is anything? And That's what leaves

544
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,839
me to believe maybe it's real, Maybe he is actually

545
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,440
considering coming back. There's no way his mom would say

546
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:25,960
come back.

547
00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:27,279
Speaker 6: Do you know what?

548
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 5: Like he just said, from everything he just said, it

549
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,559
sounds like mom makes the decision.

550
00:24:32,759 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 6: Because he said shows where he went to heist.

551
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 2: I am shocked, though, I'm shocked. They obviously like it here,

552
00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:46,319
they right there right, they like the scene, they like

553
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,559
being in Utah. That's the choice. They there's no all

554
00:24:50,599 --> 00:24:53,680
four years, playing for all four years, to play for

555
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,519
all four years. But because he just said that a

556
00:24:55,599 --> 00:24:57,160
mom did that, he not his hand that he played out.

557
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,759
Speaker 5: It be the part that people who are listening couldn't

558
00:24:59,759 --> 00:25:04,759
see it. Couldn't that last? When Jason Fitz's ASKI four years,

559
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,039
he nods his head.

560
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 3: Man, don't start with me, bro, I just put the

561
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,160
money on the table. But he let's see how much

562
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,640
flash my money I got in the account. I don't

563
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,160
condorse to gamblin, but I'm about to do it. Right,

564
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,200
there's no way he's coming back. Yeah, I don't believe,

565
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,640
and I'm with you, but like, why do this then?

566
00:25:20,079 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 5: Why through this interview and not just at some point

567
00:25:23,559 --> 00:25:26,359
go okay, you know what, guys, It was a like

568
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:26,839
I'm going to.

569
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,519
Speaker 2: Dancy Milan during all this, He's.

570
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 5: Like, why why do this? What is he trying to

571
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,680
get out of it by saying I don't know?

572
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 3: But people are believing it, Like you know the people

573
00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:39,119
I keep running into at Costco or all I get church, like, no,

574
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,599
this is not real. You know for a fact, would

575
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,079
you leave sixty million dollars on the table. Darren Peterson

576
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,559
is not gonna be and I'm gonna pick. I'm telling

577
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:50,440
you right now, I kind of believe that Yegor may

578
00:25:50,519 --> 00:25:51,240
have come back.

579
00:25:51,319 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 2: I believe Yegor over a j De Bonds. He's the

580
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,839
number one pick. You don't come back, you don't do it.

581
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,640
But do you want to play against Tyler Branch? I

582
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,279
mean the fact that b W he was done like

583
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,599
it did, like it was first round the NC Double

584
00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:08,119
A tournament, that that might be leaving a void, and hey,

585
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,680
I can come back. I'm comfortable there. National championship won't

586
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,759
get you anything. You can be for NBA championships. Buddy,

587
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,920
make whatever right. But I do believe he will do

588
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,319
whatever mom and Dad tell him to. I do believe

589
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,880
that that I'm not going to disagree with you.

590
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 3: If that is, if that he that is the pressure

591
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,200
and say that A J will not go against his parents.

592
00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:28,519
Speaker 2: I know that for a fact that I do believe.

593
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,000
And if his parents, if if mom is because A

594
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,200
said same thing, whatever she say, I'm like, what is this?

595
00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:36,960
Like everything about saying and I look and look, I'm

596
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:37,440
gonna say this.

597
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 3: Look, I can give some perspective. Had a single parent

598
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,279
for a little bit. Black moms don't play Bro. They

599
00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:43,400
don't play no games.

600
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 5: Bro.

601
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,759
Speaker 3: I could say about where to go to school. You

602
00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:47,599
know what my mom said, you can go to school.

603
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,640
You have three options. You say, you can get into Kentwood,

604
00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:51,720
or you can go to Urban Prep and all boys school,

605
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,599
you go to military school.

606
00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, she's playing games.

607
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: August, excuse me, dead ass took me to Urban Prep

608
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,880
for tour, took me to Militio. She's not playing games

609
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,640
because I didn't get into Kentwood. So I had to

610
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,640
make a decision. So I'm shed some light Bro and

611
00:27:05,759 --> 00:27:07,680
she ain't playing no games. And if she said come back,

612
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,160
I believe AJ. I just don't believe that she will.

613
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:10,519
Speaker 2: I think.

614
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 3: Look, somebody helped AJ Debons's mom get an nil deal,

615
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,079
help hugget something.

616
00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: So that way he should take this man out of

617
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,440
school by you will let him get a degree later,

618
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,680
he could do all that class he want.

619
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 3: Let him go to the league. He's probably going up

620
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,680
with the Kings. That's what it's gonna be. We need

621
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,799
to go to break. But I just thank you Bred

622
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:29,640
for that time. Don't understand. I wonder why they keep

623
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,079
playing this game. And I also like, as the.

624
00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:36,279
Speaker 5: Journalist out the radio people here, why the why the

625
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,839
belief did they keep asking him? I mean, homegirl, she's

626
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,759
great at her job, Jason, that's crazy though, she goes,

627
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,160
so what factors on my mom? Okay, well I know

628
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,279
you said your mom, but like what other factors? Dude,

629
00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:51,839
he's clearly not playing ball with you? Why you keep

630
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,200
asking him? This guy somebody? Hey, when do you have

631
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,839
to declare hey first? I don't know if he was

632
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,160
me first?

633
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:57,319
Speaker 4: Hey?

634
00:27:57,319 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: When you have to like, I was weird that somebody

635
00:27:59,160 --> 00:27:59,920
was somebody in the back.

636
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,279
Speaker 3: I mean, look, if I had to take a guest,

637
00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:03,119
don't know this for a fact, I think it would

638
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:08,279
be Ace because aceb with him always everywhere, pops us

639
00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:10,559
on the stephen A Smith probably like he played no games.

640
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,559
But look, but I do say this, his parents have

641
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,759
his best interest. This is good, this is very good.

642
00:28:16,839 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 6: It could be worse.

643
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,079
Speaker 2: It could be worse.

644
00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:19,559
Speaker 3: You could have parents that are nine interestrat and all

645
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,359
or not around and look, they are very on top

646
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,440
of this man saying hey, look, I respect that. I

647
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,440
respect the hell out of both of them. They protecting

648
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,480
the asset as big as it is, and I get it.

649
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,640
But agent will not go against his mom. So I

650
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,599
just don't believe she's gonna say, yeah, fifteen million dollars

651
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,240
probably in a fix it. Nope, that's not happening. I

652
00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:38,160
don't believe that's going to be that way. I think

653
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,359
with how much money Bway you spent this year, you

654
00:28:40,359 --> 00:28:42,000
would have to be somewhere in the ballpark. I just

655
00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:44,079
don't see it happening. I don't think will happen. And

656
00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:47,079
that's okay, that's okay. So but that was Nady Gridy.

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gonna hand the mic over to you. What did you

707
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,200
actually learn about bo football in spring twenty twenty six

708
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:10,880
Camp Killane.

709
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,279
Speaker 2: I've learned that the depth on this team is better

710
00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:17,960
than I think any spring football team I've ever covered.

711
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:20,279
Speaker 6: It's it's it's a hot take.

712
00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: I'll give you an example. We've been kind of obsessing

713
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,960
about the defense, right, yeah, and there's so many oh yeah,

714
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,160
that guy, he's good type players that you just forget

715
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,200
about what is sessing the too deep? And I'll give

716
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,559
you an example, Hunter Clegg. Right, we've all been about

717
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:38,880
telcy Leia Khanna and I talked about this previously and

718
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,200
Lucy Toamoipeo and all that. Hunter Cleke' saw a lot

719
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,920
of reps And I like, how Kelly poppinga just kind

720
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,079
of snuck it in. Yeah, he's one of the leaders

721
00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:53,559
in our linebacker room. He said linebacker, right, It's like,

722
00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:57,640
oh yeah, that guy, he's four star recruit transferred from Utah,

723
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,279
saw a lot of reps. Yeah, yeah, he's good. But

724
00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:04,279
there's guys like that all over the place on this defense.

725
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:11,279
It's flush with talent. That front seven is tremendous. I

726
00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:16,200
think I have some depth concerns with the cornerback position

727
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:20,559
in particular, front safeties are fantastic. Beyond that, maybe a

728
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,759
little less question verus than cornerbacks. But man, that front

729
00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:25,400
seven is going to be as good as any print

730
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,319
seven I've ever covered at BWAY. I am absolutely convinced

731
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:30,759
of that. Do ton of Oas is going to be

732
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,000
very good, and it's going to be afforded to him

733
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,759
because that defensive tackle position, there's just gonna be a

734
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:38,759
lot more to supplement his play where he can make

735
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:40,559
plays right, He's not having to two gap and just

736
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:44,119
hold that middle, which it's not really his thing. He's

737
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,519
a one gap or type guy, so you just beare

738
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:49,599
him with a Justin Kirkland that can take up box

739
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,680
and all that. He's going to be wrecking some things

740
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,240
this year. Body screwed over very high on him. But yeah,

741
00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:58,640
to me, it's about the defense. I think it's going

742
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,279
to be tremendous. Offense looks fine, but to me, defense

743
00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:04,079
is going to be the calling card of this BWA

744
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,720
football team. That's going to be the leaders, that's going

745
00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:09,079
to be the one setting the tone. That's where the

746
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,720
most of the talent is. In my opinion, it's defense. Defense, defense,

747
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,680
And I know a lot of Beway Now you want

748
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,680
to sing in arount now, defense is what Bway is

749
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,519
going to be about. And that's kind of what Bway

750
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:23,039
he's been about for a while now. I mean, the

751
00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:24,960
office has been good, ay Ron has done a good

752
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:27,839
job and all that, But this defense, I think, as

753
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,640
far as death and overall talent is as good as

754
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,680
I've ever seen in provo.

755
00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:33,079
Speaker 6: So let me ask you this.

756
00:33:34,839 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 8: Count of Tonavasa mentioned yesterday at the Cougar Club luncheon

757
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,480
that this team is more talented than last year's team.

758
00:33:44,759 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you agree with that absolutely, because the guys that

759
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,400
are returning, they're elevated, they're more talented, they're better than

760
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,720
they were last year. At least you expect that it'd

761
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,599
be a really big biff of one of those guys

762
00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:03,000
were't as good as they were last year, and a

763
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,720
lot of them were young. We've all said the coaches

764
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,680
say it all the time. The biggest improvement coach between

765
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,159
your first year you play and your second year. There's

766
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,440
a lot of second year guys on this BA football team,

767
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,679
a lot of guys that played a lot last year,

768
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,159
even a guy like Body schoon Over. I kind of

769
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:20,320
consider him a second year guy because it was only

770
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,559
this past year where he found his position. It was

771
00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:25,039
able to click Raider to Mooney. I think this is

772
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,519
pretty much the second year. Really, Raider to Mooney is

773
00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:33,760
a very underrated component to this defense. He was really

774
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,599
good when he came in and I covered a lot

775
00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:38,199
of Raider to Mooney in high school. He made plays,

776
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,440
he understood how to make plays and all that. It's

777
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,559
taken him a wild alert safety and guess what, guy,

778
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:47,519
safety is not easy to learn. There's a lot of nuances,

779
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:49,199
there's a lot of angles, there's a lot of things

780
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:52,239
you have to do. It clicked with Rader last year

781
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,280
and he said as much in an interview. And when

782
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,320
he's able to pair just that innate knowledge with his

783
00:34:57,559 --> 00:35:00,760
natural playmaking ability, I've known everyone's about follow up. Faulla

784
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,840
Towel's out to Wala and he's tremendous. He's fantastic. But

785
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,960
I'm telling you, Raider the Mooney's going to be really,

786
00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:08,280
really good for this bway defense this coming year, he's

787
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,559
gonna be paired with falla twel and it's just kind

788
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:14,119
of you just pick and choose positions. I'm a kibe.

789
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:14,599
Speaker 8: To me.

790
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: The most significant statement about a defensive player this spring

791
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:23,280
came from Aaron Roderick when he says, Wow, Labi's making

792
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:29,119
plays every day every I mean, when Kelly says something

793
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:32,079
about defense, it's notable, right, Yeah, you take for But

794
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:35,079
when Aaron Roderick says something about a defensive player, that's

795
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:36,599
when you really take notice.

796
00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 6: He's gonna be really good.

797
00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: And sorry, I'm really excited about this way you defense

798
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,920
right now. There's a lot of parts. I think there's

799
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,039
at least twenty guys that you can shuttle in and

800
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:53,000
out not miss a beat pair according to situation, what

801
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:55,800
the opponent does is gonna be able to be variable.

802
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,360
They're gonna be able to do a lot of things.

803
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,239
And I can't see this not developing into one of

804
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,360
the more dominant defenses I've ever seen. Away.

805
00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 8: I think it's gonna be a top twenty five defense,

806
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,039
There's no doubt about it. I mean, we've had some

807
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:11,679
great defenses over the years. The Bronco era had some

808
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,599
great defenses. Obviously six O seven very good. O nine

809
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:21,639
was solid, very very good defense. Twenty twelve was markedly

810
00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:25,079
like I mean, with the talent level, the NFL talent level,

811
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:28,679
you know that every one game that they wanted soon

812
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,199
that year was built off of the defensive efficiency and

813
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,079
defensive effectiveness.

814
00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: Can I make a hot statement that I just thought

815
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,599
of right now, The most indispensable guy on this BWAYU

816
00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:45,199
defense next year, I'm tagging this right now.

817
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 6: I'm tagging it is Evan Johnson. Evan Johnson's nice.

818
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 2: Evan Johnson is the most indispensable player on this BWAYU defense,

819
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,599
just because I think he's gonna ride to the point where,

820
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,000
all right, you got your side of the field, we

821
00:36:58,039 --> 00:37:00,800
don't have to worry, lock it down whatver, right, and

822
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,599
then he kind of makes the coverage. I think that's

823
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:06,400
what you're gonna see. He's that good and you can't

824
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,000
replace that with anyone on the roster. I mean, I

825
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,159
think Trey Alexander is gonna be good.

826
00:37:11,639 --> 00:37:12,079
Speaker 6: No one is.

827
00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 8: He's gonna be good, but but not like Evan j

828
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:16,400
No one is as good as Evan Johnson.

829
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: I am declaring here on April, what is a third,

830
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:25,000
April third, Johnson schmav is the most indispensable player on

831
00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:26,440
this entire bway defense.

832
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 8: Agree or disagree, man, I do want to agree with

833
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,000
you because as a cornerback, I'm I have a little

834
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:37,760
bit of bias, and I know, like how difficult it's

835
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,079
the most physically athletically, it's the most difficult to cover

836
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:43,239
space and run with people. You're running backwards and you're

837
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,400
having to adjust to the individuals, especially when you're a

838
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,079
lockdown corner and you run like a ten to four

839
00:37:49,079 --> 00:37:52,920
one hundred meter He's a legitimate four three guy with

840
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,280
hip mobility like Mariy Bomba is a four to three guy,

841
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,000
four to two guy right, but he doesn't have the

842
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:01,960
hip mobility, you know, the change of direction and the

843
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:04,719
ball or the ball skills that Evan Johnson has. So

844
00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:11,519
it is something that bou rarely gets and and quite honestly,

845
00:38:13,639 --> 00:38:16,880
most programs don't have a true lockdown corner. Everyone thinks

846
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,480
they like by U fans think everyone does, but they don't.

847
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 6: They don't.

848
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,079
Speaker 8: Guys like does does BYU traditionally have a bunch of

849
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:30,920
great NFL wide receivers. No, but you see them get

850
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,199
behind big twelve defenses all the time. Shake and bakm,

851
00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:38,440
you know, cross them up, get behind them. You're like, oh,

852
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,320
you don't necessarily project as a BOU fan like that.

853
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,679
These guys have that. You think they have lockdown corners,

854
00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:44,239
but they don't.

855
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: You know, it's about Utah because Utah a lot of

856
00:38:48,559 --> 00:38:51,000
years seem to have that lockdown corner day And I

857
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,519
think that's the perception.

858
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 8: They hold so much. I know, I mean, they don't

859
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,639
get called for defensive hold. They defensive holding, oh for sure,

860
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,400
tug pole release, tug pole release.

861
00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you that that's what's feeding that percent maybe. Yeah, yeah,

862
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:09,760
that's what I believe.

863
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 8: So I think to a degree, you are correct for

864
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,360
those things that we just mentioned, for those elements they

865
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,719
just mentioned you all, but you have to realize, like

866
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,480
BYU can't be as good as they can be without

867
00:39:26,199 --> 00:39:31,400
great defensive tackle play. Yeah, and so like John tell

868
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,199
My Payu last year, he's one of the most underrated guys,

869
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,880
like Tanner Walls underrated. And there's no doubt Jack Kelly

870
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,639
was really, really good. Isaiah Glasker had a little bit

871
00:39:41,639 --> 00:39:44,280
of a drop because he was injured. But John tell

872
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,599
My Payu, which I think Keanu's gonna be better this year.

873
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:49,239
He had a little He wasn't as good as he

874
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,480
needed to be last year. He was only good at times.

875
00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:54,519
John tell my pay was like the silver bag gorilla

876
00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:56,760
like that that we needed.

877
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 6: He was penetrated.

878
00:39:58,119 --> 00:39:59,559
Speaker 2: He was he was.

879
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 8: Receiving doubles and holding the line, hold the line like

880
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,440
he was pretty gosh, Dan dominant and he's gonna get

881
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,760
an opportunity in the NFL because of it. He tested well, Yeah,

882
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:18,039
it's a great film. Remembers at Big twelve media days

883
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,159
last year was like I was like, who stood out

884
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:23,480
to me? He's like John t I pay you, John Time,

885
00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:25,559
I pay you. It was all like John we heard

886
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:27,800
it time and time again, and then we saw it.

887
00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:31,199
We saw it like I don't think Belia's defense is

888
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,280
nearly as good as it was last year unless you

889
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,960
have John Johnifer because it all starts with stopping the run.

890
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 6: And so like I lean.

891
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,199
Speaker 8: Towards like it's a it's a it's a dead heat

892
00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:49,760
between Countavasa and Evan Johnson for me this year, That's

893
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,679
kind of how I'm feeling.

894
00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that interior is going to be important. I think

895
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,320
a Nisi Percell is going to be really good this year,

896
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,000
like two armed Percell not one at the club and Supers.

897
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:03,679
The fact that they played him with just one arm,

898
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,000
I think says a lot about just how good he

899
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:09,519
is now good he can be. I think Body Schoonover's

900
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,679
maybe pois for a breakout year, and I see Body

901
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,960
Moore as an interior guy than an outside gay. Maybe

902
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,440
I'm wrong on that. I don't know, but I see

903
00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:21,159
him playing more of that interior aye that three tech

904
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:23,320
That's kind of how I see him. I don't know

905
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:29,199
if you agree with that or not, but yeah, I

906
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:31,079
I mean last year was count Atana loss it that

907
00:41:31,199 --> 00:41:35,400
was your most indispensable defensive player in my opinion, maybe

908
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,079
it was John Talmoypeo. I like what you're feeding me

909
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:41,840
about John tow Mary Peyo. But to me, this year,

910
00:41:42,119 --> 00:41:44,280
I think there's enough death and I'm believing in the

911
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:49,239
resurgence of Justin Kirkland. I believe it. We'll see if

912
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,199
it if it's true or not. But to me, the

913
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,880
death at the defensive tackle is just better than it

914
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,960
is a cornerback right now, and that's why I'm leaning

915
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:57,920
toward Evan Johnson.

916
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,599
Speaker 8: Anything else that you learned about the Bay Cougar football

917
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:03,440
team during Camp Killiney twenty twenty six.

918
00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:04,519
Speaker 6: They do you want to make note of it?

919
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:09,519
Speaker 2: Well, I think one of the best stories is that's

920
00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:13,719
a tremendous story. I don't think fans will ever understand

921
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,880
how extraordinary and how rare LJ. Martin's performance was last

922
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,320
year to take that much of the load and hardly

923
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,599
miss a beat. Yes, he missed most of the Iowa

924
00:42:25,679 --> 00:42:28,719
State game, but other than that, to be able to

925
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,320
do what he did, to take that kind of load

926
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,840
and end the season, and of course he didn't play

927
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:40,840
the bowl game. But even without those two things, he's

928
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,920
not gonna be able to do. You just can't give

929
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,000
that type of workload again to LG. Martin. Yeah, do

930
00:42:47,079 --> 00:42:48,920
your thing and you're gonna be fine and give us

931
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,000
what you did last year. Could he do Yeah, he

932
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,239
could do it, but I'm not banking on that. Plus,

933
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,480
I think with taking reps, it's gonna make LG. Martin

934
00:42:58,519 --> 00:43:01,920
that much better, right, He's not getting It's hard, man.

935
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,679
You're taking every reps of running back, taking hits twenty

936
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,360
plus touches a game, plus you're blocking. He took on

937
00:43:09,679 --> 00:43:12,400
so much last year. One of the best running back

938
00:43:12,519 --> 00:43:14,800
seasons ever for Bway running back, I think you could

939
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,840
argue was the best, right, he did extraordinary things and

940
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,679
but that low taking off of him and they say

941
00:43:21,679 --> 00:43:27,119
Cione's back. That's a big, big, big development for this team.

942
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,960
And I think it's underrated because I think fans are

943
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,440
just saying, oh, yeah, that'll be nice. Yeah, LJ will

944
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,840
just do what he does. Nice to have. No they

945
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,480
need they need that second back. Last year was not

946
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:40,079
the rule, it was the exception of the rule. The

947
00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:43,320
rule's probably going to come back into play, and I

948
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,599
don't think Vans will realize that because soon Mo is

949
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:48,360
gonna be able to be take ten touches away from LJ.

950
00:43:48,679 --> 00:43:53,880
Hope it sounds like he is, and it's gonna be tremendous. Plus,

951
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,679
it's just a great story because he's a great kid,

952
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,719
went through a lot last year. The fact that he's

953
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,159
able to come back, I think it's just a beautiful thing.

954
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:02,840
It's something you love to see as a reporter. It's

955
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,400
something you want to cover. Why haven't I interviewed se

956
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,440
only MOOWI yet this spring? Thought I was gonna why

957
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,039
have I not done that? Such story reprimand you on

958
00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:14,679
incastigate you on. Yeah, that's on live radio. Yeah, that's

959
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,800
not good for him by the g man right there.

960
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,679
So anyway, I know we gotta go to break. But

961
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,760
there you go. That those are my thoughts. I love it.

962
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Speaker 6: Great stuff there with our question and poll of the day.

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team of twenty twenty six? Uh, Camp Kolani, let's go

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to break. We'll get into it. Let's talk about stats.

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time to talk about stats. I got Brandon Sigourney by

993
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my side. We're gonna talk twelve personnel, the personnel that

994
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,920
g Man loves most. But I'm gonna ask him a

995
00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:51,519
very difficult question in this segment. Who's your favorite all

996
00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:56,719
time twelve personnel two tight end lineup for BYU football.

997
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,599
You're gonna have to search, You're gonna have to You're

998
00:45:58,599 --> 00:46:01,039
gonna have to ponder. You're gonna have to pray about this.

999
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,679
GMN not gonna about it all right, you may have

1000
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:04,559
to pray about it.

1001
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 2: I thought about it for all of one minute.

1002
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 6: Right, Well, I'll give you a few of uh, you know,

1003
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,559
the the favorites here.

1004
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 2: I think I have my answer, but go ahead.

1005
00:46:16,159 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 6: You already have your answer, I think so really.

1006
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but go ahead, I mean, come on now,

1007
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,920
maybe maybe I'll end up my answer on the fly.

1008
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:24,599
Speaker 6: Well, this is the thing.

1009
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,559
Speaker 2: I think, there's so many good options.

1010
00:46:26,599 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 8: We are. We are subject to recency bias, and I

1011
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,199
think you above above everybody is subject to it.

1012
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 6: I feel like everybody above everybody.

1013
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 8: Well, you don't know my answer, then you're aren't you

1014
00:46:41,079 --> 00:46:42,239
a recentcy bias guy?

1015
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: I'm offended by this.

1016
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,119
Speaker 8: I'm kidding, are you Are you gonna go eighties on me?

1017
00:46:48,599 --> 00:46:52,719
Are you gonna go nineties? Are you gonna go two thousand?

1018
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 5: No?

1019
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 8: I don't want your answer yet. I'm trying to prep

1020
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,000
everyone for this, you know what I mean? Who who

1021
00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:02,119
played alongside the likes of like, who's the greatest all

1022
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,960
time tight end in bwave football history?

1023
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 6: Who's the greatest all time tight end?

1024
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,159
Speaker 2: It could be Gordon Hudson.

1025
00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 8: It's Gordon Hudson nineteen eighty one to eighty three, right, yeah?

1026
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:16,880
Was there anybody that played with him? Alongside him? With

1027
00:47:17,079 --> 00:47:20,840
twelve personnel at that time? Though, a lot of times

1028
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,159
you get these one off tight ends that are just glorious, amazing.

1029
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,679
But who's the robin to the batman, you know what

1030
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,119
I mean, who's the peanut butter to the jelly.

1031
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,639
Speaker 2: I think the second tight end you'd have to go

1032
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:41,320
I would be Dennis pitt I think Dennis Pitt is.

1033
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:46,159
Speaker 6: It's number two all time in BYU football history, right.

1034
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 2: Dennis was so good, so good, like back in the day.

1035
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,320
I think I said this before on air, but we

1036
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,639
used to be able to watch practices, yes, and usually

1037
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,679
the offense is given the script and you're trying to

1038
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,159
do things and all that, and there were some many

1039
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:02,599
prices I'd watch for Max Is trying to get outside

1040
00:48:02,639 --> 00:48:05,360
the offense, and then the defense like yeah, we're getting it,

1041
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,320
and like, all right, Dennis been at an option route.

1042
00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:11,559
You guys are done, and boom boom bob score score.

1043
00:48:12,039 --> 00:48:15,000
There were so many practices like that. You were probably

1044
00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:16,599
part of those practices.

1045
00:48:16,199 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 8: Right, I mean I never got beat by anybody, so

1046
00:48:19,039 --> 00:48:26,760
I don't know. I never got beat, remember beat by

1047
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,719
Dennis or Austin. But unless the offensive p iu and

1048
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,320
this should have been flying. I did get beat once

1049
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,119
upon a time by Johnny Harley, and I was right

1050
00:48:33,159 --> 00:48:35,719
there to make the play. And uh, you know, I

1051
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,480
was not able to to make the play, but I

1052
00:48:38,519 --> 00:48:39,960
was right there to make play and he ended it

1053
00:48:40,039 --> 00:48:40,320
like I was.

1054
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 6: He was literally dragging me. I was I there like

1055
00:48:43,159 --> 00:48:43,719
I I.

1056
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,679
Speaker 8: Got the football I was hanging on to and he's

1057
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,880
just like dragging me like this, like with both hands.

1058
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,960
And then I kindly like he was kicking me, you know,

1059
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:53,760
like with the heel, you know, and he got me off.

1060
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,920
But the mongoose, Yeah, I mean, I don't know what

1061
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,760
it was, but I mean, what would you take a

1062
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,199
cleat to like the ab few times, you know what

1063
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,960
I mean, you tend to let go of things.

1064
00:49:04,039 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: But seriously, so many times during practices it's like, okay,

1065
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,599
that was this stuff. We're going option around, Dennis Pitta,

1066
00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:16,199
do your thing to touchdown? Touchdown. Yeah. So Dennis Pitta,

1067
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,679
to me's number two. The most underrated guy I believe

1068
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,639
is Daniel Coates.

1069
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 8: Really that that plus he bothd he was really able

1070
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:28,800
to block. He was one of the best blocking tight

1071
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,599
ends and that's what I need for my twelve personnel.

1072
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,679
Speaker 2: Well, I'll due respect to Dennis. Probably not the most dominant,

1073
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:39,199
but that's why I'm pairing him with. I can't comment

1074
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,320
on Gordon Hudson's blocking ability because I really have no idea.

1075
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,960
I just know he's a great receiving tight end. But

1076
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:47,639
but give me a blocker with a receiver. And that's

1077
00:49:47,679 --> 00:49:50,920
why I like Daniel Coates paired with Dennis Pitta or

1078
00:49:51,039 --> 00:49:51,760
Gordon Hudson.

1079
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's my twelve personnel right there.

1080
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: I like it.

1081
00:49:55,719 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 8: Another like underrated tight end that I don't I don't

1082
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,079
know who his his thunder was his lightning, right his

1083
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,239
peanut butter to the jelly, et cetera.

1084
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 6: Chris Smith. Yeah, Chris Smith was really good, really good

1085
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,119
Byron Rex. Who was his You know who was this

1086
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,519
thunder to the lightning? At any rate?

1087
00:50:16,599 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 8: You know some of the favorites in the modern Aary Tulameili,

1088
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:23,119
Chad Lewis, Doug Jolly, Spencer died and underrated duo in

1089
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,480
one could bring it.

1090
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's your blocker one hundred percent.

1091
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, you had your flex in your in line, Johnny Harlen,

1092
00:50:30,679 --> 00:50:33,519
Dan Coats, Dennis Pitta, Andrew George Carson.

1093
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: Ryan belongs, but he didn't.

1094
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 8: But he didn't have the Once again, like the problem

1095
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,880
with this twelve personnel, two tight end lineup is who's

1096
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,079
your who's the peanut butter, who's the jelly, who's the thunder,

1097
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:52,840
Who's the who's the Robin and batman? Like you, sometimes

1098
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,760
you're a solo guy. And that's maybe what Gordon Hudson was.

1099
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,159
Speaker 2: Oh, for sure, b Way, you didn't get out of

1100
00:50:58,199 --> 00:51:02,440
formation back in the eighties. You were a pro style fullback.

1101
00:51:02,639 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 6: It was more eleven personnel or it was twenty one person.

1102
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 2: It was twenty one personnel, one tight end. Yeah, that's

1103
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,480
what you saw. Yeah, b Way, he was almost always

1104
00:51:13,559 --> 00:51:14,320
two running backs.

1105
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 6: Two running back, YEP, sprint and draw. Yeah, you had

1106
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,760
a lot of that was a fixture back in the day.

1107
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: You're right, And so.

1108
00:51:26,159 --> 00:51:29,119
Speaker 8: In the modern era, though, you know, you have like

1109
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:34,000
Isaac Rex Mason Wake. Mason Wake was on track before

1110
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:40,639
his injury to becoming a tight end fullback in the NFL.

1111
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 2: Like he was.

1112
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,519
Speaker 6: He was on track.

1113
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 8: Some injuries derailed him, concussions, et cetera, but he was.

1114
00:51:48,519 --> 00:51:52,320
He was pretty nice. And Isaac before his injuries also

1115
00:51:52,519 --> 00:51:58,880
was on track. So anybody else that we should include,

1116
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,559
though I know are missing some guys. It's just in

1117
00:52:01,639 --> 00:52:05,880
the modern area, you know what I mean. But it's like, yeah,

1118
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:12,400
Tafito Fin Galway, who was really good in his era, Well, yeah,

1119
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,760
I said, yeah.

1120
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,159
Speaker 2: I said, Chad Lewis, I'm done including Chad Lewis. That

1121
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,239
seems like a yeah, what the age is wrong with you? Well,

1122
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,840
Chad Lewis, Dennis Pitta, I think those were kind of

1123
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,960
the same type of guy. Andrew George would be that

1124
00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:29,960
guy as well. That's why I think Roger Sally Bond

1125
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:31,960
is going to be for this Bay football Team's gonna

1126
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:32,679
be Good's.

1127
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 6: Gonna be Do you consider Neil Powell a tight end?

1128
00:52:35,559 --> 00:52:37,119
Speaker 2: He's a winder right, kind of.

1129
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,119
Speaker 6: More of a wide receiver man. He was really good,

1130
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:42,280
very good.

1131
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Neil did some good.

1132
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 8: Great player, fantastic player. But he's a big wide receiver, right,

1133
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:51,519
and he's.

1134
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 2: Gonna have some good combinations coming down. Ryan Ryder Swanson

1135
00:52:55,519 --> 00:52:59,679
and Brock Harris. How nice is that gonna be? Yep,

1136
00:53:00,159 --> 00:53:04,079
that's gonna be really really nice. How do you take

1137
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:05,880
either of those guys off the field, like you ever?

1138
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 8: You know who the thunder to Gordon Hudson's lightning was

1139
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:12,199
David Mills.

1140
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 6: Oh, David Mills was good. David Mills, he was really good,

1141
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:17,440
really good.

1142
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,679
Speaker 8: But he didn't get any freaking reps because Gordon Hudson

1143
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:21,119
was taken.

1144
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 6: He got one year where he had a lot over

1145
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:24,280
a thousand yards.

1146
00:53:25,599 --> 00:53:27,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he had one year after Gordon Hudson

1147
00:53:27,679 --> 00:53:29,800
left in ear He just brought it. He was really,

1148
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:30,280
really good.

1149
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 6: I think the Gordon Hudson David Mills combo is one

1150
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:36,199
of the best.

1151
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: That's tremendous right there, You know what I mean? Clay

1152
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,840
Brown deserves mentioned. Clay Brown absolutely deserves mentioned for far

1153
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,440
more than catching the miracle touchdown. He was a really

1154
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:49,320
good player as well.

1155
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 8: So do you have a favorite my favorite Gordon Hudson

1156
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:56,679
just because he's your favorite all time, But who's your favorite?

1157
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,639
Thunder lightning peanut butter Jelly?

1158
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: I told you I'm going Daniel's and Dennis Pitta.

1159
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,679
Speaker 6: Well, Dan Coates and Dennis Pitta didn't play together.

1160
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: Oh so they have to I can't pair them, Okay,

1161
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:12,280
I totally misunderstood the question. Well, that is that is

1162
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,239
Chad Lewis to Ameile, Chad loose to Lameile. That's my pair,

1163
00:54:16,519 --> 00:54:19,800
that's your pair. That's where I'm going. Chad Lewis Chad

1164
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:24,719
Lewis to me, give give me a better pair two

1165
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:29,639
NFL talent tight ends to LAMI was a fantastic but

1166
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,039
he could really bring it. Chad Lewis one of the

1167
00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:35,599
best receiving tight ends ever. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going Chad

1168
00:54:35,639 --> 00:54:38,360
Loose and a Tome. If that's the question. If you're

1169
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,920
so narrow I cannot bringe out and you can't combine

1170
00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:45,920
like okay, then is easy then to Lameili Chad Lewis.

1171
00:54:46,039 --> 00:54:49,599
Every other answer is wrong. That is the correct answer. Sorry,

1172
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:53,440
I'm not taking any other applications. I'm not I'm not

1173
00:54:53,559 --> 00:54:54,760
doing no more, no more.

1174
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,119
Speaker 6: No more, no moss.

1175
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of want to go Daniel Coats Johnny

1176
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,320
Hurling because that was really good. That was a really

1177
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,880
good combination. But to me, it's still Chad Lose it too.

1178
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:06,800
I like it.

1179
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,119
Speaker 6: I'm going Johnny Harlen, Sam Coach. Baby.

1180
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: See this is just players.

1181
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 8: I could go Dennis Pitta Andrew George too underrated, underrated

1182
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,239
as Andrew George and he he, but I still.

1183
00:55:23,079 --> 00:55:25,159
Speaker 2: Need a guy that can just lay it down right.

1184
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,119
Speaker 8: Andrew George was a phenomenal blocker, great inline blocker.

1185
00:55:29,639 --> 00:55:32,119
Speaker 6: I saw more as a split out game he was

1186
00:55:32,119 --> 00:55:32,679
a good combo.

1187
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,079
Speaker 2: He was a good flex. I mean he was really good.

1188
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:36,880
I mean I don't want to see Dennis.

1189
00:55:36,639 --> 00:55:39,199
Speaker 8: And Andrew were like a really good combo of like

1190
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,960
like they were both inline and both flex. So that

1191
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,360
there's a reason why from seven to nine b YU

1192
00:55:48,519 --> 00:55:51,360
won eleven, ten and eleven games.

1193
00:55:52,639 --> 00:55:56,559
Speaker 6: I mean it was helpful. It was helpful to have

1194
00:55:56,639 --> 00:55:57,679
those two guys on the field.

1195
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: Were all times.

1196
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,159
Speaker 6: You know, I just the piece about twelve personnel you did. Yeah,

1197
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:02,760
I knew it.

1198
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:03,679
Speaker 2: I did.

1199
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:04,159
Speaker 8: I knew it.

1200
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 2: I did a column every time I see Andrew Gentry.

1201
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,639
I think that's b way you football, right. Give me

1202
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,719
the twenty five to twenty six year olds that are

1203
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:20,400
just pounding everything in line, dominant tight ends, twelve personnel, bom,

1204
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,159
go play to your strengths. How many times I said

1205
00:56:23,199 --> 00:56:26,039
on this program anyway, I thought to put it on paper, finaling.

1206
00:56:26,199 --> 00:56:27,440
That's what I wrote about yesterday.

1207
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:29,559
Speaker 6: There you go, that's let's talk about stats.

1208
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,400
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