1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,640 go to dpeakclendershow dot com, make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button, get every episode for free, write to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,719 smartphone or tablet, and again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,199 your support. So do you kind of get the feeling 10 00:00:31,719 --> 00:00:35,840 that if there were a if there were a story, 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:41,840 if there were an example where Democrats could take the layup, 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:48,159 they could pick the low hanging fruit, that they would 13 00:00:48,359 --> 00:00:52,640 dare I say, pounce, maybe seize the opportunity to do so, 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,240 in order to prove to everybody once and for all 15 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:01,439 that they really do not endorse or ecceps app any 16 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,200 kind of political violence. We've been told that they of 17 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,439 course don't support this. They of course don't support the 18 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,680 murder of Charlie Kirk, but they of course don't support 19 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:19,719 or condone the guy who went to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh, 20 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,239 sitting US Supreme Court justice. But of course they don't 21 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:30,319 support you attacking Ice officials and agents and such. But 22 00:01:31,159 --> 00:01:34,159 right if ever, there was an opportunity for them to 23 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,560 just put a period before the butt. You would think 24 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:48,079 that a candidate for one elected office in Virginia might 25 00:01:48,799 --> 00:01:55,079 who sent some really outrageous messages to a Republican wishing 26 00:01:55,799 --> 00:02:01,400 murder on another Republican and that republic Bublican's entire family. 27 00:02:02,879 --> 00:02:06,159 You would think this would be that proverbial layup that 28 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,280 they could just take this and say, oh, that's a 29 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,439 terrible thing. He should not Yeah, he should not be 30 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,479 continuing his run for of all seats, the attorney general 31 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:22,680 of Virginia. But that's not happening. No, no, that's not happening. 32 00:02:22,719 --> 00:02:25,599 There will be the standard. I'm not saying he should 33 00:02:25,599 --> 00:02:30,560 have said it, but it is simply politically inconvenient. It 34 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,080 is inconvenient for them because we only have a few 35 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,280 more weeks before their election. Now, they're already early voting. 36 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,800 In fact, hundreds of thousands of votes have already been 37 00:02:41,879 --> 00:02:49,080 banked in the early voting period. So this guy Joe no, sorry, 38 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,960 Jay Jones, there's another guy named Joe Johnson. That's a 39 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,039 different guy. But this is Jay Jones. He is the 40 00:02:57,159 --> 00:03:01,479 candidate for attorney General of the common Wealth of Virginia. 41 00:03:02,439 --> 00:03:07,919 And the story begins low those many years ago. August eighth, 42 00:03:08,039 --> 00:03:15,000 twenty twenty two, a Republican state legislator got a string 43 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:20,639 of disturbing text messages from one of her former colleagues. 44 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,520 Jay Jones, is a Democrat. J Jones was a state 45 00:03:27,039 --> 00:03:33,159 legislator and then got out of the legislating business. And 46 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,240 at the time August twenty twenty two, he was already out, 47 00:03:39,759 --> 00:03:43,919 but he still had I guess you know, the phone 48 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,000 numbers and group chats and such with his former colleagues. 49 00:03:48,759 --> 00:03:52,400 He was at the time, he had recently resigned from 50 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,360 his state House seat after a brief stint representing Norfolk, 51 00:03:57,639 --> 00:03:59,280 as I call it, so as to not run a 52 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:05,039 foul of FC's he guidelines Norfolk Virginia. And he had 53 00:04:05,039 --> 00:04:09,159 actually left that seat because he took a gig in 54 00:04:09,199 --> 00:04:13,719 the Biden administration. I believe his title was Deputy Assistant 55 00:04:14,039 --> 00:04:20,480 US Attorney for Virginia, so that's where he was at 56 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,000 this point. I assume maybe he hadn't started the gig yet. 57 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,199 I'm not sure what the exact timeline is of his 58 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,519 employment there, but he started off as this state lawmaker. 59 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,439 He then resigns that post to go to work for 60 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,720 the Biden administration in the dj Okay, and now he 61 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,560 is running for Attorney General of Virginia. Okay. So he 62 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,720 sends a series of text messages. Now, he started off 63 00:04:44,079 --> 00:04:49,560 by inadvertently sending it to this Republican former colleague. He 64 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,680 didn't mean to send it to her, but he did. 65 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,600 And then he doubled down, and then he tripled down, 66 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,920 and then he quadrupled down. If that's a thing, I 67 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,959 think it's a thing. So what had happened the backstory? 68 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,360 He has recently resigned, okay. But there was a former 69 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,680 state lawmaker who had recently passed away, had just passed 70 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,759 away in the summer of twenty twenty two. And that 71 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:22,160 guy's name was Joe Johnson Junior. Joe Johnson Junior, a Democrat, 72 00:05:22,759 --> 00:05:27,920 a moderate Democrat, And when he died, he was being 73 00:05:27,959 --> 00:05:33,360 eulogized by a whole bunch of state lawmakers, and a 74 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,360 lot of them happened to be Republicans. They were making 75 00:05:36,439 --> 00:05:42,680 public statements honoring Johnson's memory, honoring his political legacy. And 76 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,519 some of these statements that the Republicans were making were 77 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:52,879 making the rounds in state legislative group chats okay, and 78 00:05:52,959 --> 00:05:57,879 the comments from the Republicans were positive. You know, they were, 79 00:05:58,199 --> 00:06:00,399 you know, thoughts and prayers to the family. Worked with 80 00:06:00,439 --> 00:06:02,399 him for a long time. He was a really good man, 81 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,279 got a lot done for his district. Blah blah blah. 82 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:12,879 So around eight am Jones J. Jones, the living Democrat 83 00:06:12,959 --> 00:06:16,360 now running for attorney general. He shared his feelings with 84 00:06:16,439 --> 00:06:22,680 his former state legislative colleague, Republican House Delegate Carrie Coinner, 85 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,480 in a series of text messages that were obtained by 86 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:34,399 National Review. Jones derided Johnson's political centrism. Oh yeah, I 87 00:06:34,399 --> 00:06:38,639 should point out here Joe Johnson was from southwest Virginia, 88 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:43,120 rural area of the state Appalachian Mountain area, and was 89 00:06:43,199 --> 00:06:47,160 a moderate Democrat. You might call him a blue dog Democrat, 90 00:06:47,759 --> 00:06:51,959 the very species that Democrat parties in the Southeast have 91 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,399 been trying to somehow woo back in because they've just 92 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,959 been getting obliterated in these areas that used to be 93 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:04,959 represented by blue dog Democrats when Democrat party machine operations 94 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,279 controlled all the levers of the government in North Carolina 95 00:07:08,319 --> 00:07:10,759 for one hundred and fifty years. But they lost the 96 00:07:10,759 --> 00:07:17,319 blue dogs long time ago. For economic reasons and cultural reasons. Right. 97 00:07:17,399 --> 00:07:22,160 They Republicans started peeling these voters away, and Democrats just 98 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,959 kept kicking them out because they weren't sufficiently politically correct, 99 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,680 they weren't sufficiently woke, and they were not ranking high 100 00:07:30,759 --> 00:07:36,800 enough up on the oppression pyramid. Right, So Joe Johnson 101 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,439 passes away. You've got these comments making the rounds, and 102 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:44,480 Jay Jones sends a series of tweets to his former 103 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:51,839 Republican colleague, Carry Coiner. And then these were apparently screenshotted 104 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,279 and sent over to the target of the text messages, 105 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,480 a guy by the name of Todd Gilbert. Todd Gilbert 106 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:07,000 was the I guess now former House Speaker Todd Gilbert okay, 107 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:12,639 who had made comments praising the late Joe Johnson Jr. 108 00:08:14,959 --> 00:08:17,839 And so Jones says to Coiner in one of the 109 00:08:17,839 --> 00:08:20,959 text messages, Oh, that was supposed to be for Mark, 110 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,560 somebody named Mark. I don't know who Mark is. It 111 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,399 doesn't really matter. He meant to send it to somebody else. 112 00:08:27,319 --> 00:08:31,480 But rather than realizing you sent it to the wrong 113 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:37,399 person and just shutting up, no, no, Jay Jones doubles down. 114 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,320 It did not stop him from joking about what a 115 00:08:41,519 --> 00:08:46,960 quote pos that means piece of poop Gilbert is and 116 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,840 what he would say about me if I died, what 117 00:08:49,919 --> 00:08:52,919 the house speaker would say about Jay Jones, And then 118 00:08:53,159 --> 00:08:57,480 the conversation took the dark turn. Here's a great idea. 119 00:08:57,639 --> 00:09:00,399 How about making an escape to a really spec and 120 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,600 secluded getaway in western North Carolina. 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Inadvertently, he sent a message 148 00:10:45,879 --> 00:10:53,440 to a Republican House delegate named Carrie Coiner, and he 149 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,240 initially says, oh, that was for somebody else, but then 150 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,279 he says, I wonder what Speaker of the House would 151 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,320 say about me if I died, Because the Speaker of 152 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,759 the house, a Republican named Todd Gilbert was saying nice 153 00:11:07,799 --> 00:11:11,399 things about a Democrat who had died, a long time 154 00:11:11,519 --> 00:11:17,000 Southwest Virginia Democrat named Joe Johnson Junior, and then the 155 00:11:17,039 --> 00:11:20,799 conversation took a dark turn. He says, if those guys 156 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,840 die before me, I will go to their funerals to 157 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,639 whiz on their graves, to send them out a wash 158 00:11:31,879 --> 00:11:39,120 in something where he started. He then suggested that if 159 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,000 he had the hypothetical situation in which he only had 160 00:11:43,039 --> 00:11:47,440 two bullets and was faced with the choice of murdering 161 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:53,000 the speaker of the house Todd Gilbert or Hitler or 162 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,840 Paul Pott, he said he would shoot Gilbert every time. 163 00:12:00,279 --> 00:12:07,240 Every time Joanes said three people, two bullets, Gilbert, Hitler, 164 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,919 and pole Pot, Gilbert gets two bullets to the head, 165 00:12:12,919 --> 00:12:18,840 so he would let Hitler and Pole Pott live in 166 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,919 order to make sure that he murders the speaker of 167 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:29,080 the house, which would indicate insanity, but also that he 168 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:34,120 believes Gilbert is somehow worse than both Hitler and pol Pott. 169 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,960 I believe this is actually a joke that's been in 170 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,679 circulation for a while where you swap out you know 171 00:12:42,879 --> 00:12:47,559 some other person besides, you know your political opponent. He 172 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,240 then says, spoiler, put Gilbert in the crew with the 173 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,159 two worst people you know, and he receives both bullets 174 00:12:55,200 --> 00:13:01,559 every time, to which the Republican responds, Jay, please stop. 175 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:08,879 He then says, Lol, okay, okay. Coiner then responds, it 176 00:13:08,919 --> 00:13:11,799 really bothers me when you talk about hurting people or 177 00:13:11,879 --> 00:13:15,679 wishing death on them. It isn't okay no matter who 178 00:13:15,879 --> 00:13:21,759 they are. Jones, who is looking to oust the incumbent 179 00:13:21,799 --> 00:13:25,159 Republican Attorney General, a fellow by the name of Jason Millaris. 180 00:13:25,519 --> 00:13:29,759 This fall, as I mentioned, early voting began on September nineteenth. 181 00:13:31,639 --> 00:13:37,159 Coiner sent the screenshots of this text exchange to Gilbert 182 00:13:37,799 --> 00:13:41,159 that day, so I can only assume one of those 183 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,799 two either sent them along to other people who gave 184 00:13:44,799 --> 00:13:46,960 it to the National Review, or one of these two, 185 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,360 either Coiner or Gilbert, were the ones that divulged. In 186 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:55,159 Following publication of this story at the National Review, another 187 00:13:55,279 --> 00:14:00,960 outlet published a reaction from the Jones campaign, who said, quote, 188 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:06,080 like all people, I have sent text messages that I regret, 189 00:14:06,399 --> 00:14:10,320 and I believe that violent rhetoric has no place in 190 00:14:10,399 --> 00:14:15,639 our politics. Let's be clear about what is happening in 191 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,960 the attorney general race right now, Jason Mayirace is dropping 192 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,240 smears through Trump controlled media, which, like this is the 193 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:30,360 National Review. National Review did like they did an entire edition. 194 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,840 I think it was called never Trump during the twenty 195 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:40,840 sixteen election. National Review is hardly a hotbed of trump Ism. Okay. 196 00:14:42,919 --> 00:14:45,679 He says that these organizations are trying to assault my 197 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:51,320 character and rescue Jason Mallares's desperate campaign. This is a 198 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,919 strategy that ensures he will continue to be accountable to 199 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,840 Donald Trump, not the people of Virginia. This race is 200 00:14:57,879 --> 00:15:01,759 about whether Trump can control Virginia or Virginian's control Virginia. 201 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,240 You know, yeah, see, no, this is right now. I 202 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:07,159 mean that you may think that's what the whole campaign 203 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,480 is about, but this right now, like this story is 204 00:15:10,519 --> 00:15:16,799 about you fetishizing and fantasizing about the murder of your 205 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:22,799 colleague of an elected official. Okay, So it gets worse. 206 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,360 I mentioned the doubling and the tripling and the quadrupling down. 207 00:15:27,399 --> 00:15:29,759 I think we're on the doubling down. This is now 208 00:15:29,799 --> 00:15:33,000 I think going to move to the tripling down phase. Okay, 209 00:15:33,399 --> 00:15:38,200 So after Coiner tells him that hey, This isn't okay. 210 00:15:38,679 --> 00:15:41,360 It's not okay to talk about hurting people or wishing 211 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:43,799 death on them, no matter who they are. It's not okay. 212 00:15:44,559 --> 00:15:52,320 And that then prompts Jones to call her. He calls 213 00:15:52,399 --> 00:16:01,000 her to quote explain his reasoning. Yeah, no, oh, I'm 214 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,399 not sure that you can really explain this quote reasoning. 215 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:12,039 The Democratic former legislator then said that the only way 216 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:21,440 public policy changes is when policy makers feel pain themselves. See, 217 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:27,200 so that's why this is totally okay, right, because yeah, 218 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,360 they need to make changes and they need to feel 219 00:16:30,399 --> 00:16:33,559 pain themselves. In other words, this is terrorism, Like, this 220 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,919 is the use of terror, The use of violence in 221 00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:44,879 order to influence public policy changes. That's terrorism. So he's 222 00:16:44,919 --> 00:16:50,240 trying to explain why terrorism is good in this phone call. 223 00:16:51,639 --> 00:16:54,559 But wait, there's more. 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Your subscription 242 00:17:51,799 --> 00:17:54,480 then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports 243 00:17:54,519 --> 00:17:57,759 ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. 244 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,319 So J Jones sent a text message or several actually 245 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,680 to a Republican former colleague from the Virginia House of 246 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:13,000 Delegates where he said it would be totally fine to 247 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,039 murder the House speaker, a Republican. He thought he was 248 00:18:16,079 --> 00:18:18,480 texting somebody else, but when he found out that he 249 00:18:18,519 --> 00:18:22,400 had sent it to a Republican, he continued and doubled 250 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,559 down and said, no, no, no, it's totally fine, And 251 00:18:25,599 --> 00:18:30,039 then when his former colleague, this Delegate Coiner, when she said, 252 00:18:30,079 --> 00:18:33,400 just stop. This is never justified. You know, hurting people 253 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,960 over politics has never justified. He then called her on 254 00:18:37,039 --> 00:18:41,880 the phone to explain his reasoning, and he said that 255 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:48,920 policy changes only come when policy makers feel pain themselves, 256 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,200 like the pain that parents feel when they watched their 257 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:56,480 children die from gun violence. He asked her then to 258 00:18:56,559 --> 00:19:00,400 provide counter examples to disprove his claim, which is actually 259 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,119 a pretty stupid thing, because policymakers make policy on things 260 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,160 that have not directly impacted them all the time. Then, 261 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,240 at one point in this phone conversation, he suggested that 262 00:19:11,319 --> 00:19:15,559 he wished Gilbert's wife, the Speaker of the House's wife, 263 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,400 could watch her own children die in her arms, so 264 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:25,839 that Gilbert might reconsider his political views, prompting Coiner to 265 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,799 hang up the phone in disgust. That was the tripling down, 266 00:19:30,839 --> 00:19:34,680 and now we arrive at the quadrupling down segment of 267 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:42,759 the story chapter four. After this, Jones continued his barrage 268 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:48,200 of text messages, saying he was just asking questions. Coinner 269 00:19:48,279 --> 00:19:53,079 dismissed his excuse via text and chastised him for hoping 270 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,599 Jennifer Gilbert's children would die. Rather than deny that he 271 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:02,279 had wished death on the children, Jones responded by saying, yes, 272 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,440 I've told you this before. Only when people feel pain 273 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:12,640 personally do they move on policy, which would be confirmation 274 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,759 of the things that he said in the phone call. 275 00:20:17,559 --> 00:20:22,279 Faced with more pushback from Coinner, Jones somehow took the 276 00:20:22,319 --> 00:20:27,079 conversation a step further. He said, quote, I mean, do 277 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,240 I think Todd and Jennifer are evil and that they're 278 00:20:30,279 --> 00:20:38,400 breeding little fascists? Yes, just so everybody is clear, Just 279 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:43,680 so we're clear. When given multiple opportunities to take the 280 00:20:43,839 --> 00:20:51,680 off ramp from violence porn, Jay Jones refused to refuse 281 00:20:51,759 --> 00:20:57,880 to pull off of that route. So, I don't know, 282 00:20:58,039 --> 00:21:00,319 call me crazy, but maybe a guy like this should 283 00:21:00,319 --> 00:21:02,839 not be the top cop of Virginia. What do you think? 284 00:21:03,559 --> 00:21:08,359 Probably not the best job for him working in the law, 285 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:14,480 because what he is talking about is obviously against the law. Right, 286 00:21:15,079 --> 00:21:22,960 Obviously he would celebrate violence, law breaking against his political 287 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:29,119 foe and the murder of his children in the presence 288 00:21:29,319 --> 00:21:33,519 of his wife because it would help j Jones achieve 289 00:21:34,279 --> 00:21:38,279 his preferred policy prescriptions, and he wants to be the 290 00:21:38,319 --> 00:21:42,160 Attorney general of Virginia. Eric Erickson points out that if 291 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,279 Jones were a Republican, every major news outlet in America 292 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,960 would demand to know what the congressional Republicans think. A 293 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,440 few years ago, he says, a local public official who 294 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,400 happened to be a Republican made a racist remark, and 295 00:21:54,519 --> 00:21:58,160 national reporters were on Capitol Hill demanding that Republican senators 296 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,960 and congressmen denounced the man, and that none of them 297 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,240 had even heard of Here we have the Democrats Attorney 298 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,480 general candidate in Virginia, by the way, and that's important 299 00:22:07,519 --> 00:22:13,559 because of its proximity to DC, and how many people 300 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,960 who work in DC, who work for the government, how 301 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:23,519 many of them live in northern Virginia. Right here we 302 00:22:23,599 --> 00:22:27,880 have the Democrats Attorney general candidate wishing a politician's children 303 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,359 were murdered and that politician to be killed, and folks 304 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,240 like Manu Raju of CNN is nowhere to be seen 305 00:22:35,319 --> 00:22:39,920 shoving microphones in Democrats' faces. And I would simply point 306 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:45,440 out that that is not the way defend or disavow runs. 307 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:51,160 The game of defend or disavow is strictly to be 308 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:56,920 played by media against Republicans. Democrats are never forced to 309 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,119 play this game by media. This only there's only one 310 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,880 group of contestants that ever gets to play D or D, 311 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:09,680 and it is the Republicans. In fact, this is from 312 00:23:09,799 --> 00:23:15,559 Let's see here. Yeah, these are several local Democrat committees 313 00:23:15,839 --> 00:23:22,119 in Virginia, the Accomack County Party, the Chesapeake Party, Franklin Party, 314 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:28,039 Isle of Wight, Northampton, Southampton, Suffolk, and Virginia Beach Democratic Committees. 315 00:23:28,839 --> 00:23:31,400 And they put out a statement, the Democratic Committees of 316 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,440 Virginia Second Congressional District reaffirm they are full support of 317 00:23:35,519 --> 00:23:38,799 Jay Jones for Attorney General. We are lined up ten 318 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:44,559 toes down, ready to organize, mobilize, and deliver, voterize. They 319 00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:46,400 didn't say that part, but it just seemed to fit 320 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,359 anyway for Jay and the entire Democrat ticket hashtag teno's 321 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,559 down for Jones, Like that's apparently, like that's just a 322 00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:56,920 stupid hashtag. And then they have another hashtag here It 323 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:02,920 says my yard ocus that's the opponent, the Republican incumbent, 324 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:08,160 Maaris Myrs. Not our cup of tea. That's another hashtag, 325 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,079 Mars not our cup of tea, which is also a 326 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:15,319 stupid hashtag. Recent press may have spotlighted past mistakes. We 327 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:20,720 say that those without sin cast the first stone, which 328 00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:24,480 again the follow up corollary there is, and go sin 329 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,160 no more. That's the other thing, go sin no more, 330 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,279 which is to recognize the sin. So Jay Jones has 331 00:24:31,319 --> 00:24:35,559 taken responsibility, apologized and shown he is committed to serving 332 00:24:35,599 --> 00:24:40,480 with integrity and accountability that his public record already shows. Okay, 333 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,839 let's talk a little bit about that public record, shall we. 334 00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:50,559 This is to do Fox News. Virginia's Democratic Attorney General 335 00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:54,400 nominee dodged possible jail time for driving one hundred and 336 00:24:54,440 --> 00:25:00,799 sixteen miles an hour. Yeah, on the interstate going one sixteen. 337 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,119 And he dodged the jail time by logging one thousand 338 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,200 hours of community service. That's a lot. Where did he 339 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:14,000 do this community service? Well, he split it up in half. 340 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,960 He did five hundred hours a piece at the local 341 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:26,079 NAACP and with his own political action committee. Yes, the 342 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,400 document show former Delegate Jay Jones was caught driving one 343 00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:33,960 sixteen on I sixty four in New Kent, Virginia, about 344 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,759 halfway between Richmond and Newport News, typically resulting in up 345 00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:42,119 to a one year prison sentence. Jones received several deferments 346 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,240 of his court date for various reasons before he judge 347 00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:49,359 finally agreed to accept one thousand hours completed of community 348 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,880 service instead of a tougher punishment. In January twenty twenty four, 349 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,680 his political action committee, which is called Meet Our Moment 350 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,240 or MOM for short, which says it recruits and trains 351 00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:05,799 minority Democrat candidates to run for Virginia offices, and the 352 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,279 Virginia Chapter of the NAACP both said Jones completed five 353 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,160 hundred hours of service each. The letters from MOM is 354 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,559 signed by Leslie Schinbaum Stewart, who identified herself as executive 355 00:26:17,599 --> 00:26:21,839 director of MOM. News reports have also described her as 356 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,880 Jones's unofficial chief of staff. As recently as twenty twenty one, 357 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,480 records shared with Fox News Digital showed Jones's campaign had 358 00:26:31,519 --> 00:26:35,119 paid her consulting firm more than one hundred grand over 359 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,599 the course of about four years, and that a few 360 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,319 days after the letter was filed, Jones made an additional 361 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:47,160 six thousand dollars payment to her. Virginia law states that 362 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,599 court ordered community service has to include unpaid work for 363 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,920 a nonprofit or government agency, which raises the question as 364 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,720 to whether or not mom's registration as a political action 365 00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:03,079 committee satisfied that requirement. I'm no lawyer, but I would 366 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,880 say no, it does not. It would not. The NAACP 367 00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:11,160 provided documents to the court, but it shows no timesheets 368 00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:16,519 which would verify the five hundred hours of service. Nobody, 369 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,960 either of them actually provided any kind of time sheets. 370 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:25,839 New Kent Commonwealth's Attorney Scott Rennick, said many defendants convicted 371 00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:27,839 of traffic and other the minor offenses were steered towards 372 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,319 community service instead of jail time because this was the 373 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,559 COVID era and everybody's going to die if they're in 374 00:27:34,599 --> 00:27:38,319 the jail. Also, it's up to the defendant's attorney to 375 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,480 verify the hours filed with the court as community service. 376 00:27:43,079 --> 00:27:46,079 His thousand hours would also add up to nearly twenty 377 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,519 hours a week over a year, which is kind of 378 00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:54,039 odd because he was so very, very busy, busy busy 379 00:27:54,599 --> 00:27:58,720 because he had taken the gig as a deputy US 380 00:27:58,759 --> 00:28:06,480 attorney in with the Justice Department during the Biden administration. Yeah, 381 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:10,400 so he was taking the new job very very busy, 382 00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:12,880 had to get court to ferments and such because he 383 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,640 was oh so busy for some of them, while working 384 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,640 for the Biden administration, he was somehow able to crank 385 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,079 out twenty hours of additional work per week for free, 386 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,440 even though there are no time sheets proving that he 387 00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:30,920 actually did any of the community's service work. But he 388 00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:34,839 totally did it, you can trust him. And they signed 389 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,000 those letters. Oh and then he paid one of them 390 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,440 for the work that she was doing. Obviously it has 391 00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:44,400 nothing to do with, you know, trying to make this 392 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,799 thing go away. His chief of staff running an operation 393 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:53,559 that totally used his community service five hundred hours for 394 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,759 legitimate purposes, even though that's a political action committee and 395 00:28:57,799 --> 00:29:01,359 probably not actually allowed to offer commune unity service for 396 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,359 that sort of thing because it's not a nonprofit. But 397 00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:08,039 nothing to see here, people, Look, the Democrat committees of 398 00:29:08,319 --> 00:29:12,000 his districts stand behind him, stand with him, ten toes down, 399 00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:15,960 and all of that, and he is standing on his record, 400 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,559 and that is quite the record to stand on, no 401 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,240 matter how many toes one may have. You know, stories 402 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,440 are powerful. 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Hey, I'm sorry for wanting to kill my opponents. 423 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,200 I mean it's for democracy. Yeah, that's essentially what he 424 00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:42,599 was saying. It is like, you know, it's just this 425 00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:45,880 war and that is sob Johnson. That's the excuse that 426 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:51,440 we keep hearing from these Democrats because everything has been catastrophised. 427 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,640 There is no limiting principle, and they won't even now 428 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,400 call on this guy to step aside because they can't 429 00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:03,000 because the lust for power is too great. All right, 430 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,359 that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much 431 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,440 for listening. 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