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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome the show.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Martin Willis your host. Well, this is my

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<v Speaker 2>one d and ninety ninth show on the Antifa Auction Forum.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be nice to hear from a few people.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to make sure that I still have

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<v Speaker 2>some listeners out there, because I have taken a break

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<v Speaker 2>here and there, and this one has been a very

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<v Speaker 2>long break. Recently, I did have Robert Whitman on I

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<v Speaker 2>hope you caught that show. I thought that was fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a fantastic, wonderful guest in my opinion. So I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't mind hearing from you letting me know that you

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<v Speaker 2>still listen, and you can reach me at Auction Podcast

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<v Speaker 2>at m that's Auction podcast at.

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<v Speaker 1>Me dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>So this podcast was actually the first one of its kind.

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<v Speaker 2>I started back in two thousand and nine, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>going back to when creating a podcast was extremely difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>It took several weeks with people that actually knew what

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<v Speaker 2>they were doing to help me build a website in

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<v Speaker 2>what's called an RSS feed to make that work properly,

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<v Speaker 2>and then to get it on Apple Podcasts, you had

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<v Speaker 2>to be approved and wait forever. Now everything can be

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<v Speaker 2>done in an instant from what I understand. When it

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<v Speaker 2>was running steady, I did watch others come along and

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<v Speaker 2>start to do some antiques and art related podcasts, but

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<v Speaker 2>this particular show was rated number one in the category

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<v Speaker 2>of arts for many years, and then I just basically

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<v Speaker 2>got very busy and time slips away, as it always does.

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<v Speaker 2>But I never have lost my passion what I'm actually

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<v Speaker 2>lucky enough to do, and that's being involved in the

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful world of antiques, collecting, auctions and so much more.

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<v Speaker 2>In a lot has to do with history, I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>and therefore I've had a number of gooes related to history,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do believe I'm going to have a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>interesting one coming up, so stay tuned for that. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have one hundred percent of a commitment, so I

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<v Speaker 2>do not want to announce that yet, but so I

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<v Speaker 2>will be trying to put some of these shows out there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, more often than I have in the last

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<v Speaker 2>number of years. So I've never really done a monologue before.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never really spoke much about how I got into antiques,

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<v Speaker 2>but I thought I would talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 2>that and some of the unique things that happened along

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<v Speaker 2>the way now, back in the nineteen sixties and seventies,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say, well, at least where I lived

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<v Speaker 2>and the people that I knew, it was really cool

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<v Speaker 2>to like anteaks and interesting and started with me. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>when I started bottle digging, I think I might have

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<v Speaker 2>been I don't know, eight or nine years old.

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<v Speaker 1>I walked back.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a property that was built in eighteen eighty

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<v Speaker 2>eight and southern Maine, right out on the border of

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<v Speaker 2>New Hampshire, and it was a nice house on top.

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<v Speaker 2>It was called Winter Hill, was a house on top

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<v Speaker 2>of a hill overlooking a river, and it was a

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful spot. And in the corner I noticed when I

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<v Speaker 2>was always walking around trying to avoid poison ivy.

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<v Speaker 1>But it never worked. I usually got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Along the border of the property on one side there

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<v Speaker 2>was a stone wall, and along the stone wall it

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of like a hill by the stone wall.

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<v Speaker 2>And I realized one day when I saw old rusty

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<v Speaker 2>cans and broken glass that it was a bottle dump.

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<v Speaker 2>So I started digging there, digging the bottles, and I

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<v Speaker 2>would find these bottles that would say, you know, these

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<v Speaker 2>doctor's remedies.

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<v Speaker 1>And things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of broken bottles by the way, but still

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<v Speaker 2>some whole ones that were pretty interesting in an ink

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<v Speaker 2>well and trying to figure things out as a little kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I got my friends involved, and we got quickly

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<v Speaker 2>rather sick of that dump and we started looking around

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<v Speaker 2>at early you know, homes and started finding some fantastic things,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, as a kid, when you're little like that,

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<v Speaker 2>I was more intrigued by the color of the glass,

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<v Speaker 2>even the shards and the embossed you know, bottles that

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<v Speaker 2>would say these strange things, and a lot of them,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, in the lighten eighteen hundreds, you know, contained

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<v Speaker 2>alcohol and sometimes drugs, you know, cocaine and all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of things, you know, things to keep the baby quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>So but anyway, it's it was really interesting I had.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a fascination right away, is what I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>at now.

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<v Speaker 2>There were a few things in our barn when I

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<v Speaker 2>was growing up, and also that was rather interesting, and

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<v Speaker 2>so my sisters and I asked my father one day

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<v Speaker 2>if we could have I don't even know if they

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<v Speaker 2>called them garage sales back then, but we had a

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<v Speaker 2>garage down at the very bottom of the hill and

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<v Speaker 2>a little driveway to it, and so my sisters and

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<v Speaker 2>I set up on a Saturday, and I want to say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to find out. You're going to find out

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<v Speaker 2>how old I am when I say this, But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to say it was nineteen sixty four or five

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<v Speaker 2>something like that. And so we had this yard sale

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<v Speaker 2>and not even advertised and just a sign, and it

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<v Speaker 2>stood out there. I sold a lot of old bottles

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<v Speaker 2>and things, and between I think we did it for

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<v Speaker 2>two or three days, and between the three of us

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<v Speaker 2>back in that time, we made forty dollars and that

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<v Speaker 2>was absolutely huge. I'd never seen money like that, that is,

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<v Speaker 2>back then at that time. And so my father got

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<v Speaker 2>wind of it, and he thought that was really He

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't upset or anything to demon asked for part of

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<v Speaker 2>the money. I don't think. I don't remember he did,

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<v Speaker 2>but anyway, he had an interest in antiques, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just like a passing interest, I want to say, at

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<v Speaker 2>the time. But he couldn't believe that we made that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of money. So I think we might have set

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<v Speaker 2>up a few other times and never really had that

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<v Speaker 2>success that we did that day. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if that planted the seed in any type of way

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<v Speaker 2>for my dad. Or not along the way. So years

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<v Speaker 2>went by and I was fifteen years old, and my

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<v Speaker 2>father was very involved in the Lions Club, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was also involved in our town as the chairman of

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<v Speaker 2>the Board of Selectments. So they basically called him, maybe jokingly,

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<v Speaker 2>they called him the mayor of the town. He was

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<v Speaker 2>also involved in the Lion's Club, and they would have

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<v Speaker 2>a yearly junk auction. I guess that's what you call it,

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<v Speaker 2>but they didn't particularly call it that. But anyway, so

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<v Speaker 2>that was at a little grange hall and that was

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<v Speaker 2>an Elliot, Maine in nineteen seventy. The auctioneer that was

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<v Speaker 2>to auction everything. He drove up and he staggered in

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<v Speaker 2>and he was actually drunk, very drunk, so at the

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<v Speaker 2>time a silly thing to do, but they did it

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<v Speaker 2>at the time. They put him back in the car

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<v Speaker 2>and told him to go home. Hopefully he made it there.

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<v Speaker 1>I never heard anything other than that.

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<v Speaker 2>But so then someone said to my dad, Hey, well

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<v Speaker 2>you're the mayor, why don't you get up and sell

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff at auction. So my dad, you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of a towering fear six foot two, and

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<v Speaker 2>he got up there and just started auctioning and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>taking whatever he could get for some things, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he did a wonderful job. It was a natural talent

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<v Speaker 2>at it. Right after the auction, someone came up to

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<v Speaker 2>him and said, Hey, what are you doing right now?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to show you a bunch of things at

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<v Speaker 2>my barn, you know, down on River Road. So we

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<v Speaker 2>went down there and there was all kinds of actually

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<v Speaker 2>nice antiques that this person inherited. So the next thing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he ran an auction at the same grange hall,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, of nice things and people came for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm sure he advertised. I don't know any of

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<v Speaker 2>the details, but I remember I was at every single

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<v Speaker 2>one and I helped out. Ever since I was fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>years old. The auctions grew and grew, and he ended

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<v Speaker 2>up actually renting a hall and he had an upholstery

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<v Speaker 2>shop and he let someone else run that, which was

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<v Speaker 2>my uncle. And then he went to the Portsmouth, New

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<v Speaker 2>Hampshire area where I am today, and he rented like

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom of a mall that was there, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot of warehouse space. I remember the name

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<v Speaker 2>of the gallery at the time. But he would run

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<v Speaker 2>started to run regular auctions, and he used the lighthouse

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<v Speaker 2>for his logo, which he was a light keeper. And

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing story I've, you know, told to some friends

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<v Speaker 2>and a few people that when my dad was a

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<v Speaker 2>lightkeeper at the and the Coast Guard, he was at

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<v Speaker 2>what's called Whaleback Light, which is an old lighthouse and

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<v Speaker 2>right off the coast of Kittery, Maine in Portsmouth Harbor.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was there alone, you know, for days at

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<v Speaker 2>a time, many days at a time, and he got

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<v Speaker 2>very lonely, so he would call at nighttime. He would

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<v Speaker 2>call an operator just so he didn't feel so alone,

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<v Speaker 2>and one day he asked if he could actually meet her,

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<v Speaker 2>and he went head over heels, and that is my mother.

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<v Speaker 2>They ended up getting married, having four children. I know

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<v Speaker 2>I wandered a bit there, but my dad decided to

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<v Speaker 2>use a lighthouse as his logo, which I actually still

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<v Speaker 2>use today. So he started having lots of auctions, and

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<v Speaker 2>he built a really good reputation. He just started getting

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<v Speaker 2>nicer and nicer things as he went along. He decided

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<v Speaker 2>to build an auction hall, and at that time I

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<v Speaker 2>had kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of itchy feet.

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<v Speaker 2>I decided to want to see the country a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and someone that he was dealing with had an auction

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<v Speaker 2>hall in Colorado, in a little town called Naiwat. He

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<v Speaker 2>haphazardly said, hey, if you ever want to work for me,

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<v Speaker 2>come on out and I'll teach you how to do

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<v Speaker 2>refinishing and auctioning all that. So that was back in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy six seven somewhere around there. Decided I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to go out there, and you know, my father, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe he had told me at the time that

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<v Speaker 2>he was going to be building the auction hall, but

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<v Speaker 2>he did start to make plans for that. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>back in the town where we grew up, Me and

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<v Speaker 2>my sisters grew up in Elliot, Maine. I moved to

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado and I worked out that was a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 2>I learned how to refinish furniture that was really popular.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's mixed reviews about whether you should refinish

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<v Speaker 2>something old or not, but basically mostly turned to the

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<v Speaker 2>century oak and walnut and Victorian. That was what was

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<v Speaker 2>brought out there and refinished, and actually it made a

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<v Speaker 2>huge difference. That's what people wanted. So there was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of that. I learned how to do that and

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed that, and then I worked the auctions. The auctions

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<v Speaker 2>were really big, really busy, and so I worked these

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<v Speaker 2>auctions out there and decided that I wanted to go

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<v Speaker 2>to auction school. So back in nineteen seventy seven, in August,

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<v Speaker 2>I was actually at auction school when elvistied, so that's

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<v Speaker 2>when I know when that was. So I went to

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<v Speaker 2>this auction school in Missouri, auction school in Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 2>and I really had a fun time and learned a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't like the way they auctioned. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>the way I was used to. It was fast, and

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's just not me.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, and I tried to adopt that type

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<v Speaker 2>of auctioning, but I ended up basically having my own

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<v Speaker 2>type of auctioning, and that's basically just getting the numbers

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<v Speaker 2>out there and being you know, connecting with the people

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, things like that. So I was out

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<v Speaker 2>there for a number of years, and meanwhile, my father

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<v Speaker 2>going to tell kind of a story that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>is one of these things that there's many stories like

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<v Speaker 2>this that I've heard and seen, but this, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>happened personally. So he and I were in discussions about

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<v Speaker 2>me actually taking over the auction business, actually buying the

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<v Speaker 2>auction business from him, and he wanted to do some

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<v Speaker 2>traveling himself, and he worked hard for many, many years

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<v Speaker 2>and deserved it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was all about it. I was pretty excited

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<v Speaker 2>So we went on a couple of interesting calls, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to talk about them once rather hilarious, but

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<v Speaker 2>this one was very interesting. I probably should have told

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<v Speaker 2>the other one first, but because I believe it actually

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<v Speaker 2>happened before this, I know it did. But anyway, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just tell this story. We were called to someone down

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<v Speaker 2>at Ipswich, Massachusetts, and he said he had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of colonial antiques and a lot of nice things, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was, you know, from a long descent in his

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<v Speaker 2>family in the Ipswich, Massachusetts area. And so we went

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<v Speaker 2>banjo clock, and I can't remember a whole lot of things,

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<v Speaker 2>but I remember that he was in a wheelchair and

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<v Speaker 2>he said to me, hey, go over to the tall

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<v Speaker 2>case clock, grandfather clock, and reach down inside and you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to feel a velvet bag and grab that and

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<v Speaker 2>bring it to me. So I did, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>very light, not really much in it, and so he

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<v Speaker 2>took it out and he handed it to me and

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<v Speaker 2>he said turn it over and read it, and so

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<v Speaker 1>And it was stamped Revere. So it was a Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>Revere, an original Paul Revere spoon. And I know it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't sound like much, but it's it's a good story,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because of how it evolves. But he also

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<v Speaker 2>asked us to take some things that were in his garage.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, really, I'm giving you these nice things. And

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<v Speaker 2>I do remember there was the Simon Willard banjo clock.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time was pretty valuable and I can't remember

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<v Speaker 2>what we got for it, but it was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>at the time. Now they're not selling so high these days.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so we're looking around in the garage and

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<v Speaker 2>he says, could you please. You know, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like here's the deal. You know, you get the good stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're going to have to sell this stuff too.

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<v Speaker 2>So we loaded up a bunch of box loots and

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<v Speaker 2>he said it was basically things that he could not

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<v Speaker 2>sell it as yard sale that he had and so

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<v Speaker 2>things had prices on him. We took the prices off

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<v Speaker 2>and all that and sold them just more or less

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<v Speaker 2>as box lots.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had the auction.

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<v Speaker 2>We advertised a Paul Revere spoon and took pictures of it,

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<v Speaker 2>had it in the Antiques and Arts Weekly and things

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<v Speaker 2>like that. There was no internet, of course, back I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking this is I believe in nineteen eighty six, so

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<v Speaker 2>there was no Internet or anything back then. The spoon

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<v Speaker 2>came up to bid, and it's really nothing these days,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, back in nineteen eighty six, I believe

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<v Speaker 2>it brought eleven hundred dollars for a single spoon, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's you know, that was not a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>brought that kind of money, So it was it was exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, bought more and brought more, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember what else we sold for him, except you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the bunch of box lots and things like that. So

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<v Speaker 2>the person that bought the spoon was the local and

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<v Speaker 2>he lived in the Pepperrell House in Kidtery Point, Maine,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a beautiful old mansion historical and he came

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<v Speaker 2>in the next day and he said, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>show you something, and what he brought was five Paul

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<v Speaker 2>Revere spoons and this was the sixth one. It was

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<v Speaker 2>the exact one, had the same monogram on it. Somehow

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<v Speaker 2>that got away from his family like a hundred years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had always known and his father before him,

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<v Speaker 2>they always knew of five spoons, and the sixth poons,

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<v Speaker 2>the sixth spoon came back to them. So he was

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<v Speaker 2>just so happy, and he wanted to show that to us,

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<v Speaker 2>and he wanted to make sure that we knew that

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<v Speaker 2>it came home, and so that was really exciting. My

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<v Speaker 2>dad decided to leave and travel and he traveled on

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<v Speaker 2>the Blue Highways, that's what he wanted to do, all

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<v Speaker 2>around the country. And meanwhile I was buying the auction

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<v Speaker 2>gallery from him, not the real estate, but just the

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<v Speaker 2>business itself. Was really excited running my own auctions, and

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<v Speaker 2>right away things did very well. I had a very

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<v Speaker 2>successful start. I was really happy about that. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to say that was in I believe it was

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty six going toward nineteen eighty seven when I

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<v Speaker 2>actually bought the auction hall and he bought the auction business,

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<v Speaker 2>and he left for the road. So one day I

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<v Speaker 2>got a phone call, and this phone call was from

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<v Speaker 2>a reporter, and the reporter said they were doing a

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<v Speaker 2>freelance writer and I could have swe They said Time magazine,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not really sure. It was some mainstream magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't remember the name of it. And they

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<v Speaker 2>said that we sold in a box slot, something really rare,

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<v Speaker 2>and did we have any idea, And they said it

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<v Speaker 2>originated at our auction, and they rattled off the name

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<v Speaker 2>of the dealer that bought the box slot at my

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<v Speaker 2>auction and what he sold the item for, and they

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<v Speaker 2>talked about the chain of.

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<v Speaker 1>Events that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>So the box lot was purchased for seventy five dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>which was actually quite high for a box slot. What

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<v Speaker 2>a box loot is, it's just stuff that can't be

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<v Speaker 2>sold alone.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's grouped in a.

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<v Speaker 2>Bunch and put in a box and put underneath the tables.

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<v Speaker 2>And people look through these things and they decide whether

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<v Speaker 2>they want to bid on them or not, and so

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<v Speaker 2>they usually don't bring They usually bring like ten or

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen dollars. So that's what they did at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people would just buy box slots. But this guy

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<v Speaker 2>was a professor of music and he was pretty sharper.

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<v Speaker 2>His name was Stan Hedinger, and he was also, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>quite involved in the antique business way back in the

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<v Speaker 2>seventies and eighties until he passed away in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>So Stan bought this box loot for seventy five dollars

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<v Speaker 2>and inside of it was a fragment of a rug

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<v Speaker 2>and I do not recall it at all, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was in, you know, in one of the box lots,

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<v Speaker 2>So it was a fragment of an old rug, and

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<v Speaker 2>he actually thought it was pretty cool and unique looking.

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<v Speaker 2>He brought it to an antique show in New Hampshire

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<v Speaker 2>and he sold it, I believe, for I think I

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<v Speaker 2>heard around five hundred dollars, but you know, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember clearly exactly what the amount was. So it ended

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<v Speaker 2>up eventually, it sold many times and ended up eventually

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<v Speaker 2>selling in brust at a rare rug and textile auction.

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<v Speaker 2>So this person on the phone said that they are

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<v Speaker 2>writing the story about this fragment that originated at my

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<v Speaker 2>auction and has recently sold for three hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand dollars in Brussels, and so that would be

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<v Speaker 2>like a million dollars today. That was in nineteen eighty six,

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<v Speaker 2>and so at the time I was just absolutely flabbergasted,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, well, what exactly was it? And they

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<v Speaker 2>said it was an extremely rare, unknown twelfth century fragment

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<v Speaker 2>of a rug. And you know, as as it stands,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, textiles are biodegradable, so for this thing to

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<v Speaker 2>have lasted this many years was just unheard of. And

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<v Speaker 2>so just a frag been of a rug at that

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<v Speaker 2>time sold for that kind of money, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>just like a number I never heard, you know, anything

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<v Speaker 2>so for at auction, unless it's down in New York

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<v Speaker 2>or in Europe and it's something really special.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you just never heard those numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>So I said, you know, I had just bought the

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<v Speaker 2>auction business, and there was just no way that I

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<v Speaker 2>could have my name tied to something that I sold

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<v Speaker 2>or my father, who was ever auctioning at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>sold for seventy five dollars for it to actually have

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<v Speaker 2>a record that we missed the boat on that one

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<v Speaker 2>and it sold for over three hundred thousand dollars. I

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<v Speaker 2>just couldn't have it out there. So I said, you

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<v Speaker 2>cannot use this gallery name. You cannot use my name.

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<v Speaker 2>All you know, I would give you permission to say

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<v Speaker 2>in New England, but not even in the state of Maine.

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<v Speaker 2>And I never saw the article. I never had real proof,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. At that time. There was just no way

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<v Speaker 2>to look things up again. There was no Internet or

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that. That was one that got away over

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<v Speaker 2>the years. There's been many that got away, but that one,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, right off the start, was something you know,

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<v Speaker 2>who would have known. You had to have such a

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<v Speaker 2>specialty of knowledge to understand what that actually was. And

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<v Speaker 2>so now that's it supposedly went to a museum, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's somewhere in some museum on a wall, I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 2>encased and well preserved. But so that was interesting. Things

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<v Speaker 2>have slipped away, you know, slipped through my hands many times,

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<v Speaker 2>I should say, over the years, but this one in particular,

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<v Speaker 2>that was that was a tough one to hear right

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<v Speaker 2>off the bat when when I was starting. But I

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<v Speaker 2>had lots and lots of great luck over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>Things that I've talked about before being able to sell

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<v Speaker 2>the signer of the Declarations his whole homestead back in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen nine, that was really the feather in the cap

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<v Speaker 2>even now all these years to be able to say

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<v Speaker 2>that that was, you know, really my top auction of anything,

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<v Speaker 2>all the history involved in everything, and that auction was

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely incredible. And what made that auction get publicity is

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<v Speaker 2>at the time the State of New Hampshire secretly appropriated

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<v Speaker 2>one million dollars to bid at that auction. Someone busted

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<v Speaker 2>it wide open. They secretly hid it in some bill

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<v Speaker 2>and when it was found out, it made the news

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<v Speaker 2>all over the world. Associated press got ahold of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the best advertising and certainly you know, there

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<v Speaker 2>was well over a thousand people in attendance and from

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<v Speaker 2>all over.

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<v Speaker 1>Very exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>And so anyway, I want to tell this one more

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<v Speaker 2>story because it predates Missus Doubtfire, and I've always wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to tell this story and a public venue. It's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of crazy, silly, but it's kind of like the country

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<v Speaker 2>boys going to New York. So was this was when

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<v Speaker 2>I was working with my dad, when we're getting ready

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, he was getting ready to turn the

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<v Speaker 2>business over to me, and so we were doing a

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<v Speaker 2>number of things. We got a call from New York City, Manhattan,

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<v Speaker 2>and a gentleman said that him and his mother own

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<v Speaker 2>a huge estate in Margate on.

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<v Speaker 1>The shores of Jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a lot of really valuable and important antiques

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<v Speaker 2>in Manhattan and in his apartment. And at that time,

424
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<v Speaker 2>again there was no internet. You couldn't send you could

425
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<v Speaker 2>send pictures, photographs through the mail, that type of thing.

426
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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, he described the things well enough, so my

427
00:24:54.880 --> 00:25:00.119
<v Speaker 2>father was excited about the trip. So we left and

428
00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:03.880
<v Speaker 2>we headed down. This was I think about nineteen eighty six,

429
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<v Speaker 2>something like that, So we headed down to New York. Now,

430
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<v Speaker 2>from where the auction house was in southern Maine to

431
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<v Speaker 2>New York City was about five and a half hours

432
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<v Speaker 2>something like that. So, you know, we left I think

433
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<v Speaker 2>real early in the morning, and we got there somewhere

434
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<v Speaker 2>I think before noon. It was a really hot, hot

435
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<v Speaker 2>summer day. And this was on the ninth floor in

436
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<v Speaker 2>a building, and we went inside and the elevators were broken,

437
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<v Speaker 2>so we had to walk up the ninth floors, knocked

438
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<v Speaker 2>on the door, and I noticed there was a good

439
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<v Speaker 2>like six or seven locks maybe more on the door,

440
00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:51.119
<v Speaker 2>and they all were snapping unlocked. And the store opens

441
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<v Speaker 2>and it was a very pleasant gentlemen and fast talking

442
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<v Speaker 2>and The first thing I noticed is when we opened

443
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<v Speaker 2>the door that you couldn't really see anything because everything

444
00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:08.839
<v Speaker 2>was stacked to the sky. And these were I think

445
00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:14.119
<v Speaker 2>there were like eight foot ceilings furniture and paintings and things.

446
00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Where this was a big probably a three bedroom apartment

447
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:20.599
<v Speaker 2>and a big one, you know, in an old building.

448
00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:26.720
<v Speaker 2>I remember seeing, you know, period Chippendale furniture and early

449
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:32.920
<v Speaker 2>portraits and high boys and all the juicy, great stuff,

450
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:36.279
<v Speaker 2>the stuff that you just never see. And of course

451
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<v Speaker 2>in places in the Portsmouth, New Hampshire are you see

452
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<v Speaker 2>some but not a lot, but you just didn't get

453
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<v Speaker 2>the exposure to this type of quality and quantity. So

454
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:50.599
<v Speaker 2>every room was stacked all the way up to the sky,

455
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<v Speaker 2>and I remember there was like you could barely walk through.

456
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<v Speaker 2>And I saw like an aquarium with a big, huge

457
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<v Speaker 2>turtle in it, and it was it's just really in

458
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<v Speaker 2>an odd situation. I couldn't understand. So my dad and

459
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<v Speaker 2>I both were talking to him and said, well, how

460
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<v Speaker 2>do you have all this stuff?

461
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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

462
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:14.759
<v Speaker 2>I inherited, you know, but you really have to talk

463
00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:18.279
<v Speaker 2>to my mother. And so I said, okay, well that's fine,

464
00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:20.440
<v Speaker 2>as she do to come here. And he says, yes,

465
00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:24.359
<v Speaker 2>she will be coming here, and you know, she's really

466
00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:29.000
<v Speaker 2>the one that owns all this stuff. We said, okay, well, meanwhile,

467
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:31.880
<v Speaker 2>we're going to go get some lunch and we'll come back.

468
00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:36.000
<v Speaker 2>And so we walked down the several flights of stairs

469
00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:39.240
<v Speaker 2>and we went somewhere and got lunch, and we were

470
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:42.400
<v Speaker 2>talking about, like, boy, this seems really weird. There's something

471
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<v Speaker 2>not right here, and you know how, you know, how

472
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<v Speaker 2>can we protect ourselves?

473
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<v Speaker 1>How do we know this?

474
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<v Speaker 2>These aren't stolen pieces or you know whatever. It didn't

475
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<v Speaker 2>feel right. There was something really really odd about the

476
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<v Speaker 2>whole situation. So we went and we got dinner, she

477
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.200
<v Speaker 2>should say, and made our way all the way back

478
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:07.039
<v Speaker 2>to the ninth floor again and knocked on the door

479
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:10.559
<v Speaker 2>and the door opened, and there was a woman with

480
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<v Speaker 2>earrings and made up hair and everything, and looked just

481
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<v Speaker 2>like the man we were talking to. But you know,

482
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:24.000
<v Speaker 2>so it's his mother. The voice was the same, it

483
00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:28.039
<v Speaker 2>was the same person. That's when I said, this is

484
00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:33.400
<v Speaker 2>the long before missus doubtfire. It was him dressed up

485
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:38.160
<v Speaker 2>and pretending to be his mother. So I'm kind of

486
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:40.039
<v Speaker 2>looking at my father. We're kind of making eyes at

487
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:42.759
<v Speaker 2>each other, and you could see that definitely. The you know,

488
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:45.640
<v Speaker 2>when he leaned over the wig came up you could

489
00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:48.720
<v Speaker 2>see his hair underneath, and and it was a gray

490
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:51.759
<v Speaker 2>haired wig, and he had dark hair, and and it

491
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:55.640
<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, get me out of here. And

492
00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:58.400
<v Speaker 2>my dad was really like, well, you know, maybe we

493
00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:00.480
<v Speaker 2>can make this thing work. You know O. You know,

494
00:29:01.319 --> 00:29:06.000
<v Speaker 2>you get tempted when you see such a promise in

495
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:09.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, merchandise. I mean, you want to have an

496
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:12.279
<v Speaker 2>auction with these type of things in it. I mean

497
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:15.359
<v Speaker 2>who wouldn't. But you know, you have to ask you

498
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.599
<v Speaker 2>a question, the question of that time, like why would

499
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:23.200
<v Speaker 2>this person call I don't want to say a country bumpkin,

500
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>but someone all the way up in Maine, even though

501
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:30.160
<v Speaker 2>it's an established auction hall and all that, But why, uh?

502
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:32.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, New York City is the hub for all

503
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:35.960
<v Speaker 2>those type of antiques everything that he had, So why

504
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:39.720
<v Speaker 2>was he you know, calling us up there? And why

505
00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:42.400
<v Speaker 2>was he pretending to be his own mother? There was

506
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:45.480
<v Speaker 2>something else that happened, But I do believe that once

507
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:48.160
<v Speaker 2>I said that we need some type of affidavit or

508
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:51.000
<v Speaker 2>some type of proof that you own all these things,

509
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:54.960
<v Speaker 2>that he kind of made it kind of uh quick

510
00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:58.200
<v Speaker 2>that he she, I should say, who was pretending to

511
00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:00.240
<v Speaker 2>be the mother At that time, there was some thing

512
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.599
<v Speaker 2>going on and we basically had to leave. I couldn't

513
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:06.079
<v Speaker 2>get out of there fast enough. We kind of laughed,

514
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.720
<v Speaker 2>and you know, we were talking on the way home,

515
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:11.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, trying to figure out what the heck, what

516
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.920
<v Speaker 2>the heck were we just experiencing. This business, I have

517
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:19.200
<v Speaker 2>to say, is absolutely full of stories. You know, There's

518
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:21.240
<v Speaker 2>been so many things that have happened over the years,

519
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:22.920
<v Speaker 2>and some of them are really funny, some of them

520
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:28.119
<v Speaker 2>are actually terrible unfortunately, and some of them are really exciting.

521
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, for.

522
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:34.559
<v Speaker 2>Instance, when there's really unique finds. To me, it has

523
00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:39.279
<v Speaker 2>less to do with the value of something and more

524
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:44.319
<v Speaker 2>to do with the rarity. Just for instance, when you

525
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:49.880
<v Speaker 2>see something that's just really fine quality and when something

526
00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:53.359
<v Speaker 2>was created, you know two hundred and fifty years ago,

527
00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>that would be very very difficult to make today with

528
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:00.359
<v Speaker 2>all the modern you know, power tools and things that

529
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.640
<v Speaker 2>we had. And you think of how these things went

530
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.759
<v Speaker 2>through the workshops and you know, they just had windows

531
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.720
<v Speaker 2>for a light, and then you know they wouldn't really

532
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:14.559
<v Speaker 2>work by candlelight of oil lantern too often they would

533
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:17.799
<v Speaker 2>just work when there's you know, daylight mostly and think

534
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:20.640
<v Speaker 2>of all that they had to do, you know, all

535
00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:23.839
<v Speaker 2>the hand cutting, starting with the tree, starting with the

536
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:28.119
<v Speaker 2>rip sawing the lumber, starting and letting it dry for

537
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:32.039
<v Speaker 2>years the right way, and finding the right types of

538
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:35.759
<v Speaker 2>grains in the wood to make a nice you know design,

539
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:38.599
<v Speaker 2>and say the mahogany. A lot of the mahogany, of course,

540
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:42.920
<v Speaker 2>came from the islands, and mostly the port towns would

541
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:46.200
<v Speaker 2>be the cabinet makers that you'd see, you know, making

542
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:50.279
<v Speaker 2>these beautiful mahogany pieces. You know, oftentimes you know, when

543
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:53.680
<v Speaker 2>you go into the country pieces they're using the wood

544
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:57.640
<v Speaker 2>that's available there. When you see things like tiger maple,

545
00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:00.759
<v Speaker 2>those are really rare tree. They had to cut a

546
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:03.640
<v Speaker 2>lot of maple trees before they found a one that

547
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:05.920
<v Speaker 2>had the tiger that type of grain in it.

548
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:07.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm rambling here.

549
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:10.400
<v Speaker 2>I just thought i'd get a quick podcast out just

550
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:14.799
<v Speaker 2>to see if anyone's listening. And I do want to

551
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:18.039
<v Speaker 2>thank you all. It's been a real pleasure and to

552
00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:21.079
<v Speaker 2>think that this started and what does that make this

553
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:25.920
<v Speaker 2>It's fifteen years ago when this podcast first started. Again,

554
00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:29.279
<v Speaker 2>this first time I've done any type of monologue. But

555
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:34.720
<v Speaker 2>it's been a real pleasure. I still absolutely love doing

556
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:38.680
<v Speaker 2>what I do. I do almost all appraisals, just appraisals

557
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:42.519
<v Speaker 2>these days. You know, that's something that's changed too. I

558
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:44.920
<v Speaker 2>talk a lot of times about how the market has changed,

559
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:48.599
<v Speaker 2>which it really has, and it really has to do

560
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:51.759
<v Speaker 2>with a baby boomer effect. But you know, doing an

561
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:54.200
<v Speaker 2>insurance appraisal is fine, it's easy to do. But when

562
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:57.480
<v Speaker 2>you're doing a fair market appraisal and you really want

563
00:32:57.480 --> 00:32:59.799
<v Speaker 2>to put what something's worth out there, a lot of

564
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:03.279
<v Speaker 2>time it's not what people are expecting. However, there are

565
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:07.000
<v Speaker 2>certain things if it's rare enough, it'll sell for just

566
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:10.079
<v Speaker 2>as much or more than it used to that for

567
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:13.079
<v Speaker 2>the type of thing it is. But I still love

568
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:17.519
<v Speaker 2>what I do. I love this, love this business. There's

569
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:20.720
<v Speaker 2>so much adventure. I just say that if you're young

570
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:23.640
<v Speaker 2>and you happen to be listening to the show, thank you.

571
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I hope you get an interest.

572
00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:26.839
<v Speaker 1>You know.

573
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:28.920
<v Speaker 2>I had someone reach out to me when I was

574
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:32.000
<v Speaker 2>doing this podcast years ago said he was only twelve

575
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:34.599
<v Speaker 2>or thirteen years old and he wanted to become an

576
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.279
<v Speaker 2>antique dealer. And if you happen to be listening, you

577
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:39.920
<v Speaker 2>were in Georgia at the time. I hope that's what

578
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:42.880
<v Speaker 2>you became and you're happy, but I know I've been

579
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:46.319
<v Speaker 2>very happy for many years. And thank you all for listening,

580
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<v Speaker 2>and we'll be back before you know it.