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Speaker 1: You're just in time for the Bible answer Man Broadcast

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with Hank Canagraph, the radio outreach of the Christian Research Institute.

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Our purpose here at CRII is to equip Christians to

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provide Biblical answers to life's most important questions, to read

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the Bible for all it's worth, and counter the teachings

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of cults and world religions that deviate from the plumb

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That's equip dot org. The following program was pre recorded.

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Now here's the President of the Christian Research Institute, Hank Canagraph.

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Speaker 2: Thank very much, Randy, and it is good as always

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to be in studio as we answer your questions from

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around the United States and Canada and from around the

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world as well. I want to start the broadcast. We're

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going to go right to the calls in just a second,

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but I want to start the broadcast today by affirming

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what I believe with respect to creation versus evolution. Reason

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being that, as many of you know, internet lies travel

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halfway around the world before truth has had the chance

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to put its boots on. I believe that all evil

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in the universe, whether natural catastrophes, nature, red in tooth

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and claw, spiritual, physical death, all evil is directly attributable

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to the fall of Adam and Eve into lives of

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perpetual sin terminated by death. I take Genesis one at

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face value. Therefore, I hold that the creation days are

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literally solar days. However, they are not intended to provide

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a chronology of creation, but to reveal God's purposes in creation.

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I do not take an anthropocentric view of scripture. God's

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purposes with respect to people, however, is clearly the point

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of scripture. We need to recognize that God is revealing

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an unfolding plan of redemption for humankind such that we

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can be reconciled to Him for time and for eternity.

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I also want to say this, I have great differenficulty

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stomaching the notion of theistic evolution, and that is not

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only from a biblical perspective, it is also from a

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scientific perspective. And then I believe that we have to

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take seriously interpretation of the Biblical text. If we do not,

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we may well find ourselves marching into the kingdom of

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the cults. Why is it that Mormons think that God

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has feet and hands. It's because they don't know how

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to interpret scripture rightly, starting with the early chapters of Genesis,

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and unfortunately, there are progressive creationists today that do likewise

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with the biblical text. They simply misread the intent of

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the author. Job nine is a classic case in point.

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He shakes the earth from its place, he makes its

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pillars tremble. He speaks to the sun and it does

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not shine. He seals off the light of the stars.

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He alone stretches out the heavens. That last phrase being

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used now to prove Big bang cosmology was a Biblical prescription.

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There's an ancient way of talking about Big bang cosmology. Now,

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whether or not you believe in Big Bang cosmology is

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not the point. The point here is to say that

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this passage has nothing whatsoever to do with Big Bang cosmology,

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and to use it in that way is to do

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violence to the intention of the author. And we might

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just as well then say he makes its pillars tremble,

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and suppose that the Earth is founded on pillars. The

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point simply is this, we must learn to read the

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Bible for all it's worth, or as I am more

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fond of saying, mine the Bible for all its wealth.

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Indeed it is a mine full of wealth, gold nuggets, plentiful.

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But you're never going to get to the gold if

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you don't know the art and science of biblical interpretation.

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I deal with that in a special way in my

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book Has God Spoken, which is a book that demonstrates

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the Bible to be divine as opposed to merely human

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in origin, and laid out in a mosaic by which

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you can actually remember the information, and therefore prove in

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an epic of time in which the Bible is under siege,

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that the Bible is indeed sustainable, not only sustainable, but

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ever more brilliant as a literary masterpiece in an age

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of scientific enlightenment. We'll go right to our phone callers.

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First up today is Aussie listening in Florence, Mississippi. Hi.

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Speaker 3: He Hey, how's it going good?

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Speaker 2: Hew?

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Speaker 3: Are you doing fine?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Actually, I have a question. My brother is actually dealing

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with a little doubt, and his doubt is that he

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doesn't understand where God came from? Who made God?

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Speaker 4: Why? You know?

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Speaker 3: And I try to explain to him. You know, We're

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not the ones to you know, question God. We are,

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you know, simply who supposed to have faith in God,

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you know, but.

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Speaker 2: Not blind faith. So it's legitimate to ask questions like that.

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We're never called to blind faith. We're called to faith

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in evidence. Were called to truth and other words, were

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called to believe in that which corresponds to reality. And

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I usually explain this in three basic points. I say that,

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unlike the universe, which according to modern science, had a beginning,

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God is infinite and eternal, and therefore, as an infinite,

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eternal being, God logically can be demonstrated to be the

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uncaused first cause. Therefore he is uncreated. Secondly, to suppose

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that because the universe had to cause, the cause of

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the universe must have a cause simply leads to a

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logical dead end. In other words, an infinite regression of

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finite causes never answers the question of source. It simply

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makes the effects more numerous. And that the third point

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is this simple logic dictates that the universe is not

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merely an illusion. It didn't spring out of nothing, Nothing

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comes from nothing, nothing ever could, and it has not

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eternally existed as the Greeks once thought the law of

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entropy predicts that a universe that has eternally existed would

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have died an eternity ago of a heat lost death.

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So the only philosophically plausible possibility that remains is that

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the universe was made by an unmade cause that is

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greater than itself. We simply know intuitively that every effect

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has to have a cause equal to or greater than itself.

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This is true with respect to the universe in which

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we live. But there's no necessity to suppose that the

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laws which apply to the universe in which we exist

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apply to the creator of the universe in which we exist.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, excellent. Well, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You got it. And I've written about this in various places.

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The most succinct rendering of what I just said is

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found in the Complete Bible answer Book Collector's Edition.

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Speaker 3: I actually have that boot sitting right here.

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Speaker 2: Well, you can look it up. I don't know what

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the page number is. We can find it in the index.

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Speaker 3: Okay, And what actually would be the question?

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Speaker 2: Who made God?

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Speaker 3: Who made God? All right, Well, I appreciate it, and God, bless.

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Speaker 2: God, bless you. And this gives me an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: Now back to the Bible answer Man broadcast and your

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phone lines. Talk to Jonathan,

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who's listening in Kansas City, Missouri. Hi, Jonathan, Hey, how.

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Speaker 4: Are you, Hank, I'm good. Before I ask you my question,

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let me just preface this by saying, I do believe

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that the canon is one closed. I believe that God

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has preserved his word and that everything we need is

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there and available to us. My question has to do

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with the Book of Jude, and specifically where it talks

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about Satan and Michael the archangel, fighting over the body

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of Moses. And I've heard a couple of different schools

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of thought on that. One is that the body of

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Moses is a reference to Old Testament believers, the nation

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of Israel, Moses' leadership as a type of Christ. And

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I've also heard that it is something that Jude put

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in there to refute Gnostic teachers that were teaching things,

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you know, at the time that obviously were aberant in theology,

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and I just was wondering if you had any insight

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let me give you a line of reasoning here.

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First of all, recognize that the early Church fathers. Let

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us know that Jude is alluding to a particular work here.

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It's a suit of pigriphul work called the Assumption of Moses.

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In verse fourteen. What's going on is Jude quotes from

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the Book of Enoch. So you have a precedent for

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Jude doing this kind of thing. He not only alludes

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to the Assumption of Moses, but he clearly is also

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referencing the Book of Enoch all in the same epistle.

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And there's a precedent for this because the other New

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Testament writers do this as well. Paul, for example, quotes

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from pagan poets, and in doing so, he's not claiming

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divine inspiration for the pagan poets, but he's recognizing that

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all truth is God's truth, and he's using truth wherever

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it is found to point to the ultimate arbitra of truth.

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Deuteronomy thirty four tells us that God buried Moses in Moab.

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and the operative word here is God. God buried Moses,

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and as a result, many Jewish traditions built up concerning

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the death of Moses in the way in which Moses

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was buried. If God did this, did he use an

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angel as his agent. So a lot of traditions built up,

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and the assumption of Moses was among those traditions. Now,

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the point here is that Jude found this illustration in

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the assumption of Moses to be helpful. Helpful not because

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the assumption of Moses as part of the canon, but

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helpful because there's a point here that should be underscored,

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and that is the archangel Michael refused to slander the devil,

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but rather than doing that, he puts the matter back

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into the hands of God, saying to Satan, the Lord

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rebuke you. So here's a principle extracted which points to

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a precedent. That precedent is we do not slander celestial beings.

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more humble, and so we rebuke someone, not directly, but

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rather through the agency of our heavenly Father. The Lord

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rebuke you. So this is the principle that's being pointed

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to I think here, and I do think that it's

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reading far too much into the passage or into the

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historical context to think that this is somehow or other,

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some kind of typology going on here with respect to

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Israel and the like. As you mentioned the prolog to

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the question back to the phone lines, Jeremy Jackson, Tennessee. Hi, Jeremy, Hi, thank.

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Speaker 6: I'm asking about a last chapter mark a verse number eight,

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and it's true to go first or not part of

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the original manuscript, and I won't hang up to listen.

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And if you can just give a detail on that place.

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Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, certainly. If you read most modern translations, you'll

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find a note inserted between eight and nine in terms

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of verses that says something to the effect of most

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reliable early manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have

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Mark sixteen, verses nine through twenty. So that's what you're

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going to find as an inserted note between verse eight

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and verse nine. The reason for this is what's called

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the tenacity of the text. Through the tenacity of the text,

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the autograph emerges. So what we have with respect to

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the New Testament manuscripts is a wealth of biblical manuscripts,

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and what textual critics do is they compare the manuscripts.

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The manuscripts all have mistakes, but they don't all have

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the same mistakes. So by comparing manuscript with the manuscript,

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you can come to a true valuation of what is

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the original. So the autograph has been preserved within the

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manuscripts that are extant today. So God has miraculously, supernaturally

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we might say, preserved his word through volume of manuscripts.

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It is our responsibility to make sure that scribal insertions

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are not added to the text, and so in cases

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where the oldest and most reliable manuscripts don't have the

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longer ending, that should be noted. So for example, the

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Kmma Johannium, or the added clause of First John chapter five.

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It's completely biblical in the sense that it coheres to

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the rest of the Biblical text, but it's not in

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the best manuscripts. So it was added too good to

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leave out, so to speak, in manuscripts, and so as

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a result of that, a lot of people think if

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you leave it out, you're leaving something out of the Bible. No,

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that sentiment in terms of the three or one is

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found elsewhere in scripture the same thing in terms of

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the long ending to the Lord's Prayer. It is completely biblical.

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It comes directly from an Old Testament passage, but it's

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not in the best, most reliable manuscripts. While it's added

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in passages like Matthew Chapter five, the reality is it's

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something that's pasted from an Old Testament passage onto the

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ending of the large Prayer. Again, it is completely consistent

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with the Bible because it comes from the Bible, but

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the tenacity of the text allows the autograph to emerge intact.

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And that's the point. Want to go back to the

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phone lines. Let's talk next to Jose in Tampa, Florida.

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Hi Jose, Hi Hank.

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Speaker 7: I'm really I really admire your ministry and the sound

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doctrine that you proclaim from this writer station. I'm a

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Hispanic pastor and I would like to make a personal

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call about this. I'm in a transition from a church

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to another place, and I already visited five different churches

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in five different places, and they ask for me to

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be their pastor. But they offer to me. It was

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sufficient for my family to leave about that kind of proposal.

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But I'm fighting inside of me if I did well

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not going to those states because inside of me is

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my passion to serve the Lord. And I would like

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to have you know, an answer from you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The way I would look at this is that

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God moves through circumstances and through people. Obviously, if people

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are telling you to do something that is other than

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what you already find taught in the Word of God,

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you wouldn't listen to them. But God does move through circumstances,

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and he moves through the Christian community to help show

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His will in his way to individuals like you. So

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you have a passion in your heart to serve God.

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God's opening an opportunity, a door for service in a

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particular place, and I think what you need to do

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is move in that direction and God will either open

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the door wider or He'll close that door. But again,

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if you have this passion in your heart, I would

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move in that direction again prayerfully, thoughtfully, with good godly counsel.

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But I would move in that direction and certainly would

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join you in prayer that God would use your move

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in that direction to build up his kingdom, edify his body,

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and use your talents. God's given you specific talents You've

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got talents I don't have. I may have some talents

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you don't have, but God is using your specific talents

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to edify, equip encourage, exhort, build up the body of Christ.

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I'd go for it, man, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I understand what you're saying. But the thing is that

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I reject those proposals because I was thinking that I

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can hurt so much my family living on those places

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without having the proper assistance, financial assistance to live with

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that kind of money.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's a very significant consideration. But let me

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tell you something. When I went into ministry, I can

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tell you that I saw no way in the world

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that I could ever support a growing family. And believe me,

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our family started to grow rather rapidly, end up with

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twelve kids. So I didn't see any way that we

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could possibly do it. Sometimes I still wonder today how

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I'm going to make it with everything that's going on.

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It's difficult, but God is our source, and the ultimate

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thing that we want to do is learn to lean

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more heavily upon the arm of God rather than the

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arm of flesh.

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