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Speaker 2: Uh So, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna get into our
first main topic, and this is very uh it's it's
Spider City, Spider Haven, Spider Central right now.
Speaker 3: Okay, I.
Speaker 2: Like and pride myself on just enjoying the Spider Man character,
but there's a lot more that I'm learning that is
blowing my mind, especially when it comes to just the
the recent discussions and the topics and the castings and whatnot.
There's been a lot of developments happening. And so the
latest rumor is that Spider Man four is going to
have a female villain, and the plot surrounding this is
that it's going to be tying into Spider Island, which
is a very big arc and the comics. Now, do
you know any about Spider Island? Is this news to you?
Speaker 3: No? I'm similar to you. Like I thought, I knew
a lot of I feel like I had a good
base of knowledge when it comes to Spider Man stuff.
But these last couple of weeks, I'm realizing how wrong
I am in that assumption, which makes sense. I don't
really read the comics. I'm even more of a casual,
but I feel like I've experienced a lot of stuff.
But maybe it's just the same things over and over.
But yeah, it seems like a lot of the ideas
getting tossed around for four are kind of new fresh things.
There are all these new fresh things that we'ven't seen
on the big screen. So that's very exciting for me
because I always like to learn new things, and some
of it sounds really exciting. Some of the Spider Island
stuff that I was reading about today, it seems fun.
I like it. It's cool. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean I didn't realize that it was
such a like a in depth comic run where all
these people basically are getting all these powers similar to
Spider Man, and it's just kind of like to me,
it made me feel like it was like an X
Men kind of situation where these mutants are equivalent kind
of popping up all these powers and such.
Speaker 3: But it also kind of just rounds me like Lizard
and like there's been a storyline with like it's just
you know, a bunch of lizard people and the sewers
and stuff like that. It's kind of the same thing,
but just swapped it out for spiders instead of blizards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the neat thing too that I was reading
was how it starts off with with this being like
Spider Man's Peter Parker's just doing his regular thing. He
stops Hydro Man, and I was reading here how it
leads up to Sung Chi is actually teaching him the
way of the Spider I'm not, and it's just like
teaching him like how to I guess do some more
like fighting moves and whatnot. I thought that would be
super cool to bring Sushi back into the MCU fold
by having Spider Man four, like Tom Holland Spider Man
and him team up.
Speaker 3: Oh man, we've talked about that character so much, like
where is it going to pop up next? You know,
is he gonna be an Avengers level character? Obviously there
was like that post credit scene at the end of
his movie, and we just haven't seen him since. And
I've never really thought in all of our ruminations and
rumors and all that that, Oh yeah, maybe Spider Man
could be a good combo. But I actually think personality wise,
those two would work pretty well together. Could be lighthearted
but still have some depth to it and just like
joking with each other and trying to one up each
other as well with their combat skills and whatnot. I
think that could actually be a really fun duo. So
I it'd be cool if that was somehow woven into
this in terms of like how many other larger MCU
characters are going to be yet, who knows, but that
could be a fun one to throw in the mix,
I think absolutely.
Speaker 2: And speaking of being thrown into the mix, we got
Sadie Sink, who from the shout outs to you you
are on the board for the Superhero drafts with true
with that draft pick because she's she's I mean, is
it's official right that she's cast it in? Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was last week. We still don't know the character,
but in terms of her being in there, I think
it's pretty official. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of different circulation rumors going around
of who she's playing, and I think the big one
at the start was, oh, it's it's a Mary Jane character.
And I think people are just like.
Speaker 3: Oh, she's got red hair, so she's naturally just gonna
be Mary Jane.
Speaker 2: But I think it's grown a little bit more because
Travis had shared in the discord Go check out a
discord the may Day Parker possibility, which I am totally
on board for that. And of course Jean Gray has
been floated around. Have you heard of any other ones?
Speaker 3: I mean mean yeah, I mean h Kirkland did talk
about that last week. I haven't heard anyone's other than
than those, Is any black Cats throw in the mix?
We kind of dispelled that. We don't think it's necessarily
a great fit. And then like the MJ stuff there,
there's so many different variations to it, like is it yeah,
is it like an alternate dimension one? Is it just
like another MJ even though we already have an MJ
even those like kind of a different you know Michelle right,
Michelle Jones. I think it is what her name is,
Sendea's character, So it's like little variation on it. So
there's definitely a lot of different things that could be
occurring here. But yeah, it's interesting you brought that up. So, like,
I guess the main villain that's kind of been introduced
potentially here for for Adriana Soria Oka the spider queen
or Anna is like as one of her shorthand names,
and I was thinking about that you know, with all
the rumors last week of Sadie Sink and this character, Like,
I don't know, do you think there could be some
connection between them or is it just like, oh, here's
random new character that Sadie Sink's playing, just gonna team
up with Spider Man, but there's not necessarily like a
backstory connection to this new Spider Queen character.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, all I have to go off is
Travis Snell's notes saying the word is that Sadie Sink
is not playing Adrian.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not saying I'm saying, like what would be
for a relations Like what character could she be playing
like a connection with this villain and like the reason
to bring Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, like if she she's like the main, is
it like a Galactus Silver Surfer kind of scenario where
we've got the main Spider Queen and then Sadie Sink
is playing like a henchman of some kind or like
a like a sub villain beneath her. Maybe it's the
setup like that, or maybe it is I have to
keep telling myself we are in the multiverse saga, So
I'm i prescribe to the idea that Sadie Sink will
be something tied into the multiverse, maybe another Spider Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course we think.
Speaker 2: We talked about how like the other Spider characters like You're,
Peter Parker, Toby Maguire, Andrew Garfield, that those will probably
be saved for I think like Secret War and later iterations.
I again, I can't speak officially what I what I know,
and I just don't think that they're gonna necessarily pop
up in Spider Man. For if we're gonna be experiencing
more multiversal stuff and I know we got them in
the previous Spider Man, I think that they'll probably just
be like, hey, here's new Spider characters. Hey, like Spider Queen.
Whether or not Spider Queen is from this universe or
a different one again, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean interesting to bring up because like one
of the rumors around if Sadie Think is in fact
playing may Day would be like potentially the daughter of
like Toby's Spider Man and Crison Dunce right like, so like,
I don't know, do you just say that or do
you show that, or do you have them in new roles?
Or do you just have like weird flashbacks of like
them doing that stuff before and or to establish that connection,
or do you leave it as something that's maybe a
little more like obscured, like it's not necessarily confirmed, but
then we like see it in the future or something
like that too. But that was someone I was thinking
about said, like with this character and looking it up,
the Spider Queen and like the whole Spider Island thing,
you know, I guess like the concept is that like
this character gets like this spider you know, gene thing
that she like is inflicted upon the city, and then
she can like control people, like like the way ant
Man can control ants, So you can just do that
with humans, you know, like kind of converting them over
with this this spider infection that like people seemingly get.
And I think it's like an interesting concept if what
if it is a multiverse situation in which there's like
an alternate New York where the Spider Queen like accomplished
that goal and like took over New York and maybe
even beyond that completely like with this Spider gene thing,
just completely taking over the city, taking out everyone, having
complete control, and then I don't know what would be
her reason. I want to go to like another dimension
to continue that ragin but maybe she gets pulled there,
maybe she goes there intentionally, but that would be like
how it interseex with this six one six timeline, And
that's where you could get like a multiverse thing with
if it is may Day, like maybe she was one
of the few surviving people from that timeline that we're
talking about, so she comes here to six one six
as well to in order to stop Spider Queen and
teams up with Spider Man. I feel like that could
be like a fun connection and like maybe that's like
a little bit less insane because when I was reading
through some of the Spider Island stuff, it just seems
so absurd, like it makes sends on a comic book strip,
but I don't know if it makes sense in the
MCU like Spider Man for stuff. But maybe that's how
you do it. It's like, Okay, that actually insane, crazy
over the top stuff happened like a multi alternate dimension.
Maybe we see like glimpses of it, but then like
actually in our six one six timeline, you know, New
York could be saved in like the course of one
movie and isn't like some huge Avengers level threat, you know.
So that's kind of my thought with the multiverse stuff
is maybe it's a way. Yeah, maybe you bring in
Spider Queen n Sadie Sink's character may Day or whatever
it is. At the same time, I think that could
make some sense. That makes sense to me. I think
I think it works.
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right, though, it just does get to be
a little bit crazy to envision what there these stories
would be like on the big screen as opposed to
being a comic book strip. I mean, there are certain
things that timeline wise, I feel like makes sense because
in this comic book arc, you have, Okay, all the
people turning into Spider Man, and some of them are
bad eyes, some of them are good. They're just regular
New Yorkers, but they're taking advantage of their powers. And
then you have the Avengers come in to try to
stop them. They tell Spider Man to stay out of
it because he's very much like all the rest. And
then you have Reid Richard's trying to work on a
cure for these these Spider people. And on top of that,
you have the Spider King, who is apparently a mutated
form of Steve Rogers that gets Spider powers and some
kind of like Henchman guy or something like that, which
is just crazy.
Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe I could imagine it Chris Evans just like
being like a Spider Guy or whatnot.
Speaker 3: That'd be down for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then you have to think, how much of
a budget does this movie have. If we're gonna get
sunk Chi and we're gonna get Chris Evans in here, that's.
Speaker 3: A lot m Yeah, like this, So the Spider Queen character,
you know, reading into some of her backstory a little
bit more, and I mean I think some of her
origin story is like like once again tying into the
Steve Rodgers stuff, like her being like a World War
two era character who like also got these super serum
like afterwards after the whole Steve Rodgers thing happened. I
don't think that's what we would do in this timeline
once again, if it's an alternate to mention thing, sure, potentially,
but I don't think we'd really want to go into
that origin story stuff like to that extent. Instead, I
think we would just skip right to the part of
I don't know, she got bit by a Spider and
then like wanted to take over New York. And I
don't know, we'll fill in the blanks of like making
her motivations make sense for the sake of a movie,
but I don't think we'd go all the way back there.
But I don't know. Just in reading the character, you
know she's got like telekinesis, she's got super strength, some
of those classic things can control people, these the spider
drones as they're called. Do you have a just looking
at the character, reading out the powers a little bit
in the backstory, do you have a you have like
a casting in mind, like who who would you want
as your Adrianna Soria Spider queen?
Speaker 2: Oh man, all I have to go off is really
just looking at like her her comic book photo and uh,
there there is a specific actress that came to mind,
but unfortunately she has already been casted in another Spider project.
I was honestly thinking, like a Dakota Johnson would probably
would fit this role, but she's already another Spider girl.
Speaker 3: That could happen. I mean that was Sony verse. What
do you what do you think about her? What do
you what do you think about her presence as an
actress would be able to do this character. I think
she ben am Web.
Speaker 2: She was definitely more of even than anti hero, just
a hero, but you didn't have the greatest kind of
script backing her up with that. In other films that
she's in, she's just a very confident, very uh like
she just emanates power.
Speaker 3: She's spoken to be like a big villain like this
who's like controlling people to like go kill themselves by
jumping off buildings, which it seems like this character does.
I don't know if she has that energy to her.
Speaker 2: I've seen her do some not drag racing, but her
own stunts with like driving cars, and I thought, you
know what that's that's I don't know, that's not really like, hey,
go kill yourself commandment kind of a thing, but I'm
sure she could tap into something. What's your pick?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a few. I mean I was like,
because the character has like black hairacters, so you can
easily change that, or you can throw a wig on anyone.
But of course I went to like Mark Qualley, I
just think that could be interesting, and Mikey Madison, I'm
just gonna cast her as everything forever now because she's
so fun, but I think she could pull off like
a weird, creepy spider queen lady that could be really fun.
Now is she gonna do that after winning an oscar?
I don't know, but maybe maybe she would have big paycheck.
The other one I thought of in this, you know,
would not happen, but like me a Goth, this has
like mea Gothria and all over her. Now, of course
she's cast in Blade, but like if Blade gets canceled,
like officially, you know, maybe me Goth, they've already got
her in the pocket. They want to put her another
project that could make sense, that could make sense. I
could see her. Those are some kind of like younger characters.
But I don't know, like if if we get Saydie's thinking,
there's like another younger person, like, I don't know what
kind of age range they'd go for this character. And
the one I thought of in like the older mid
older range was Marianne Contilliard, who plays like male in Inception.
I feel like she could be terrifying in a role
like this and have that presence to her and like
kind of has the look visually as well, So I
I think that could be a fun one. And I
don't know if was she in any of the Batman stuff.
I'm just thinking, like a noldman, like, what what did
she do in there? Again?
Speaker 1: She was?
Speaker 2: She was Talia al Ghoul in the Dark.
Speaker 3: Right, but she's never been in a Marvel thing, right.
Speaker 2: No, she was in the Assassin's Creed movie.
Speaker 3: Okay, right, I forgot about that. But I haven't seen
her much recently, and I feel like, obviously if she's
done DC stuff, like she's she's down for combook things.
So I don't know, maybe she'd be an interesting kind
of left field pick. Now. I don't know if any
of these really makes sense if like maybe what I
would say, there's an alternate thing where like Sadie sinc
it is like like the daughter of this character, if
we go like full on with the connection. I don't
know if any of the ones I just picked makes
sense for that. I don't know if I really see
the mother daughter bond, but I don't know, maybe we're
not going that direction anyway.
Speaker 2: I like that Marion Peck. I think that's that's a
fantastic one. Actually, I was looking at this character's powers
and you know the classics super even strength, telepathy, insect manipulation,
all that kind of stuff. Telekinesis, sonic scream, shape shifting.
But I thought it was cool just to see the
power grid. And I don't know where this you know,
the official official Marvel fandom wiki where they developed this
power grid. Her intelligence is a four. It doesn't say
strength is a four. We'll say out a five. Yeah,
speed is a two, durability is a two. Energy injection
is a five.
Speaker 3: And that's a random stat to have on the along
with strength and intelligence. Mm hm, it really is.
Speaker 2: Oh, it looks like it's at a seven. Okay, that's
what we're out of.
Speaker 3: Okay, seven though, I like it. Okay, So she's got
like she's got like mid mid level stats. M hmm.
She's like a bit of an all rounder, but like
not super strong, no, not fast. I guess maybe part
of it if she's kind of employing armies of spider people,
like that's that adds a lot to your power level,
you know, even if you physically don't have a seven strength,
but if you're employing, yeah, like an army of Spider
man and Spider women, that's that's nothing to sneeze at.
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I guess. In her Spider form, she was stated to
be an Omega level threat by Captain America's pilot and
by Captain America himself pilot.
Speaker 3: He scouts all of these out. He was he was
the first to go check out Galactus and be like,
I think this guy might be rob not like in
the house a whole lot justin Hammer. You don't got
to worry about him, Like he just goes around what
his pilot like, So he was around in the World
War two era? Or was this like a new age pilot.
Speaker 2: I don't know. His name is Airman Phillips. That's all.
Speaker 3: That's all I got, Phillips. Okay, I'm down for that.
In you think that so this is part of the
storyline Spider Island or just you know this connections with
Spider Queen. Here is like people in New York or
elsewhere are getting infected with the Spider virus and kind
of bringing the Spider powers out of all sorts of
random people. Do you think this could be a way
that we get other Spider characters introduced in the MCU,
like a Miles Morales or a Spider Gwen or a
Spider Woman or any of these type of characters. Do
you think that would be a way that we'd get uh,
an instruction of any of those people.
Speaker 2: I absolutely think so. And I feel like it's only
a matter of time before we get something because when
you look at it across across the Spider Verse, the
second one, and they just get that whole like Spider
Central scene and you get uh, you just got so
many different cameos and Easter Eggs is just filling to
the brim in there, and I feel like, Okay, Sony
is wholeheartedly embracing this ip with all of these different
characters and iterations of them. So I think that they're
eventually going to just start sliding it into the live
action and making money. I mean, Marvel made them a
lot of money with doing the No Way the Home trilogy,
right and with the Avengers as well, So to me,
that makes the most sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it would be really cool, even if
it was just like a post credit thing, like you know,
Spider Man saves the Day undoes all the Spider Juice
that's been spread around the city, but we get a
post credit of like somehow he missed Miles Morales, he
missed you know, grabbing a Miles morale, like saving him
somehow or getting him cured, and so he just has
those power starts to developing up in it. And then
Spider Man five or whatever is where we could actually
get that character introduced in a bigger way. Just once
again basing off all this, all this off the Safi
sing stuff, like, I don't know how many new characters
were gonna get, you know, especially Shunk. She's in there
as you already confirmed. That's as you know as to
your scoops obviously, isn't there too. No, that'd be cool
if he was. But yeah, I just I just don't
know how many characters we'd really introduce that are meaningful
Spider people. But maybe we at least like can lay
the groundwork and set up how those people could be
in future movies and just in like a very light
tease way, so you don't have to really commit too
hard to anything. You'd even show Miles in a way,
we don't have to confirm an actor and you could
just like hint at it or something like that, maybe
symbol or the suit something like that. So that could
be pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, No, we were talking about the whole multiverse
aspect earlier and again with these other characters. There's the
the comic run where Adriana Soria actually succeeds I think, right,
the other story basically she fails and she gets defeated,
all that kind of stuff. In this one.
Speaker 3: Classic either fail or you succeed.
Speaker 2: I mean that's right, absolutely, So she succeeds in this universe.
And then it gets pretty crazy just reading into it
where she dispands the Avengers because she just captures enough
of them, and she her mutation can affect superhuman beings
so not just regular people, so that basically.
Speaker 3: Totally way off. Then if she can do that level stuff,
I mean, oh, totally bumper stats closer to the seven range,
I think.
Speaker 2: I think, so this is where it gets to be
more like the Marvel Marvel what if kind of Yeah.
Speaker 3: What if Spider Queen one kind of situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because and again we bring in Jack Russell Werewolf.
Speaker 3: He's in here.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he's in the other one too, but
he plays a different kind of role in this storyline,
which I think is cool. You get more they have Morebius,
the Seerum turning Captain Marvel into a vampire, which is crazy.
Speaker 3: I don't want any well I do. I don't know
if I want a morbious in future, but it's been
tainted now.
Speaker 2: Of course, just the serum. We don't need the character,
just the serum. So Captain Marvel turns into a vampire
using the Connors formula, Spider Hulk turns into Lizard Hulk,
and then the Goblin formula turns Iron Man into a goblin,
which is this is just all crazy.
Speaker 3: Stuff that would be fun, That would be fun. Is that?
Is that how we get Robert Downey turning.
Speaker 2: Into through a gob doom to doom with the goblin serum?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, imagine if that was the case. That'd
be insane. I would have to piss off some people,
I would imagine, m.
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is this is definitely a storyline I
would definitely want to get on board with if they
were to pursue something like that. Of course, it's all
just it's all just hearsay. It's just a possibility of potential.
And I don't know where where do you even pick
up from that, because if you were to do a
movie like that, we have all these recur in characters,
and that's just not a one and done Spider Man movie.
This is I know, mega level threat here.
Speaker 3: This is at least a two three parter, that's true. Yeah,
it could be grounds for that, but I don't know.
Maybe they want that, Maybe they want the We had
the Home trilogy, maybe now we get the Spider Island trilogy,
Spider Island trilogy. What would you call the trilogy? Really?
Aren't you know? It's not actually really it trilogy in
that same way. It's not like one cohesive story. But yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 2: So would you call it like Spider Man the island
and then Spider Man two back to the island, to.
Speaker 3: The island, right, and then across the island. Yeah, there
you go into the island. Yeah, across the Island's perfect?
Speaker 1: Do that?
Speaker 3: Get away with it. Another thing I saw looking up
the Spider Island is this character Jackal. Did you happen
upon this grinch looking character called the Jackal? I skim
but enlighten me, he skimmed him. Well, it just it
seems like this is maybe a character who is kind
of in cohoots with Spider Queen often you know, reading
from Wikipedia here. Later storylines established him as being a
scientist or researching genetics and biochemistry, and this part I
just have to read because it's so weird. That reveals
that he has an unhealthy romantic obsession with Gwen Stacy
and he has driven mad with grief and jealousy. I
think when she when she dies, and that's what leads
him into like his villain hood, so I would be
I don't know if we need to do that side
of it. But I don't know. If we wanted like
a little one to two, you know, like two villains
in the movie, you could get a Jackal in there.
But he, yeah, he quite literally looks like a swoll Grinch,
So I don't know if they're going to go for
that esthetic in the MCU. Maybe it doesn't fit so well.
We have enough Green CGI characters in the MCU as
it is right now. But I don't know, seems like
a fun free I mean, he looks like a Goblin,
and I'm just a big Goblin fan, of course, so
I think that's why I'm maybe hopeful that we could
get a freak this. But even if, maybe maybe Jackal
is just like a henchman for Spider Queen, maybe we
kind of demoted him as being on her level instead,
just like is a bit more of like a you know,
the the bodyguard for the number two that kind of thing,
but that could be interesting as well.
Speaker 2: He looks like a skinny green beast. It is.
Speaker 3: He does look a lot like beast. Actually, yeah, the
ears as well.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's just the totalt shape of the head
with the ears and all that and Beast's hair like
it's it's nuts, Oh my gosh. But yeah, weird motivation.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Apparently in twenty fourteen, ig And ranked the Jackal
as Spider Man's seventeenth greatest enemy, So that's pretty good.
He's top twenty, top twenty.
Speaker 2: Who is sixteen? Who trumps him out from that sixteen?
Oh no, I don't have access to this list. Let
me super find this jannalist abilities genius intelligence, superhuman strength, durability, speed,
and agility. Oh, expertise in martial arts and gymnastics. You
gotta be good at gymnastics. That's that's like, it's true.
Speaker 3: Okay. I found the article. Wo wow, black Cat at
twenty four. That seems really low for black Cat, really low.
We got hydro Man twenty five, Shocker twenty three. I'm
kind of surprised by these Juggernaut twenty two, naut.
Speaker 2: Over the over black Cat especially, and I've.
Speaker 3: Never known him to be a Spider Man villain, specifically Juggernauts.
That's interesting. Carnage is twenty one. That feels really low.
That's really list what Hammerhead's twenty okay. We got Morbius
at nineteen. Okay, we got Morland at eighteen. I forget
who that is Morlock character. I can't remember Jackals once
again seventeen, as mentioned once again, all these characters of
Black Cats. Somehow, Rhino is at sixteen okay, okay, Sandman
at fifteen, Chameleon fourteen, Mysterio thirteen. How are we gonna
have a top ten? I feel like we've already gone
through a lot of big ones. Vulture at twelve, Vultures twelve,
my goodness, Electro is at eleven, okay, Scorpion at ten.
You've heard of him? Smithe at nine, okay, smythe I'm
into that from the he was the big of the
animated series that me and Travis and Kyle reviewed back
in the day. Hobgoblin number eight, okay. I like to
see that the Lizard is seven. And this article has
the same art as he has in a Marvel snap.
Number six is the green Goblin. Who have I not named? Who?
Who do you predict to be in the top five here?
Speaker 2: You got Auto Octavias, you got Venom. Yeah, Hobgoblin.
Speaker 3: Hob Goblin was number Wait did I not say how Goblin?
He's a eight? Okay, green Goblin was six? Did you
say MORBs Arbus is like nineteen? Yeah? Oh right, wait
now okay, sorry, there is a second green Goblin. There's
two green goblins on this list?
Speaker 2: Goblin?
Speaker 3: Oh we got yeah, Harry. Harry's green Goblin is six,
whereas Norman's green Goblin is number two. Okay, I'm begging
that Auto is doctor Auto. He was number one? Yeah, okay,
nice job there. Venom was number three, so you're missing
you got two more? Can you think of any other
big Spider Man villains? I'll say both these characters relevant
in the last few months, really one of them relevant
as soon as this week.
Speaker 2: You've been Daredevil Kingpin Kingpin Kingpin number four of course.
Speaker 3: And who else? What other Spider Man villain has been
relevant in the last few months? Relevant to a relative term?
This is number five, number five or five? Oh my goodness,
can you think of any big blockbuster hits that really
uh smoked the box office?
Speaker 2: Uh, detail says rhino, but you already said rhino.
Speaker 3: Rhino can't be Craven. Can't be craven. It's Craven number five?
Really number five? Wow, so kind of a weird list.
We should make our own version because I gen this
is from twenty fourteen, to be fair, so you know,
a long chame that's so for a decade it is,
But like, still, you know black Cat at twenty three?
What are we doing here? Even she's not always a villain,
she's not always an enemy, she's sometimes a friend, I guess, but.
Speaker 2: But that's still way way out there.
Speaker 3: Good lord. Yeah, anyway, it was fun to look at
h cool. Don't remember we were before that, but I think
we're talking about Jackal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I got nothing else to add, anything else
you want to add in there?
Speaker 3: None of the I guess my last question for you
do you want this? Do you do you want this
Spider Queen storyline? Or do you or would you take
some of the other rumors we got, or would you
just want something else that we haven't heard of yet?
Speaker 2: I do want this to be honest, I think that
they explored a lot in that in the Home trilogy,
and I think that this is definitely not more the same.
This is super zany and just kind of breaking off
into its own thing, and I am all for it,
especially if it means bring Sung Chi and bring a
couple of these other MCU characters along for the ride
and the introduce us to these new ones too. I mean,
Tom Hollands probably not going to be Spider Man forever,
but if you bring in like a Sadie Sink into this,
into this fold, then hey, maybe she'll be able to
take over the mantle for for a while after Right
after Tom is like, I'm out so and I think
I'm all for that. I'm all for the mantle pass thing,
as long as you got some of these OG characters
in there at start to help kind of pass the
torch along. But yeah, let's let's do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it sounds fun. I don't know if
I need a little bit more, I need to be
sold on it a little bit more, but I do
think in theory there's some good fun to be had here,
I do. I think the thing I like the most
about it is I think it'd be great to have
like a woman villain leading this. I feel like that's
just not just the Home trilogy, but Spider memories in general.
We don't get a lot of those, and obviously like
Spider Verse first one is really fun to get like
Auto or Octate.
Speaker 2: What was her name, Olivia?
Speaker 3: Olivia? Yeah, I like to get her in there like that.
That was a fun subversion, and I feel like we
could use a little bit more of fun stuff like that,
So I think this, Yeah, there's some good potential here.
I'm into it. Yeah. Cool, All right, Well, leadis gentle.
Speaker 2: We're gonna take our first ad break and we will
be right back to talk some more stuff and we
are back. So our next topic, keeping in line with Marvel,
is some Daredevil season two rumors. Like I said reviewing
season one, there's a whole bunch of stuff that's just
kind of coming out right now, it seems.
Speaker 3: And the baseline rumor here is that Daredevil is to
assemble his own heroes to take on the anti Vigilante
task Force. Okay, that makes sense for what we've been
getting in this season one so far. Halfway through the season, right,
mm hmm, this it does.
Speaker 2: So do you have your own kind of envision in
mind of who you want in this task force, because
I mean it obviously kind of can defer to who
it is, like the Defenders. That's kind of like the
baseline for.
Speaker 3: This, right right, Yeah, I guess I wonder how much
of it would be dipping into like MCU specific characters
or if the idea is like with this kind of
one first two seasons of Daredevil seems like they really
are trying to rejuvenate that Marvel Netflix era, right, even
like bringing back Bullseye for like a pretty small role,
but just like have that character back in there and
bringing back like Punisher of course, and then you know
obviously Kingpin and the rest of the main crew there,
and so yeah, maybe that's like the idea here is
a bit of like a one to two punch of
like season one is more focused on like those Daredevil
specific things, but then two is where we venture more
into bringing in some of those other characters from the
Netflix era that they still want to keep a hand on.
So I'm into it. I wonder what the budget would
be like, because that was, like, you know, an issue
with Defenders as a show is it just was a
lot more expensive, So we got fewer episodes than the
other shows that were on the Netflix, and then we
just didn't get as much depth, and then it wasn't
quite as good, and some of the action scenes in
particular were noticeably cheaper, right, just having to make things work.
And so I wonder if that could end up happening,
if we are bringing back a lot of these other
people along with just already the stuff that we have
going on there. So I don't know. I guess I
would maybe be a little bit concerned how much budget
they're going to give this show, if they are going
to go down that route. But I would love it,
I think. I mean, Jessica Jones, I would definitely want back.
That would be top top of the pile. Luke Cage
as well, I'd love to see him back. I'd be
fine if we recast Danny rand or if we just
grab someone else to be like the iron Fist Mantle.
I don't necessarily need him back, But there's other characters,
you know, whether you get back Claire or you get
Colleen back in there, you know, there's some other people
that could be interesting to dust off. So I don't know.
I think i'd be down for that. I think it
could be fun, but I also don't want it to
pull too much away from what Daredevil is as a show.
But I don't know. Maybe we've had so much of
him already that it's like, let's just go into the
team up stuff and have some fun with it rather
than it being focused on him. But if he's just
kind of like what everything circles around orbits, I'm kind
of down for this. So I think I think it
could make sense, especially with once again where we're set
up with season one here, I could see this kind
of thing having to be relevant. I don't know if
he can do it all on his own. Yeah, I
don't think he.
Speaker 2: Can do it on his own. As great as a
hero as he is, I mean, you gotta you gotta
tap in the troops at some point, and especially if
we got this whole anti Vigilante task force popping off,
that's the real deal. So the concept to bring in
these defenders is great, and it's it's gonna sprout probably
a whole bunch of retros between me and Kirkland, I'm
sure to go through all these characters. But I've seen
Jessica Jones a long time ago, and I've seen iron
Fifth season one and two. I haven't seen Luke Cage,
and I haven't seen Punishers or Defenders. So those are
the three shows that are still kind of on the
on the docket to get through. But I really do
like Iron Fest. I think that's that's fun. I like Colleen,
and I like the those those characters. And I think
bringing in Danny Rand for sure. We had a nod
to not to Danny Rant, but to Aaron Fist in
Marvel's What If season three, so I think Iron Fist
is definitely in the back of Marvel's mind potentially.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Do you think of any other like
current MCU characters that could team up like I don't
know Moonnight. I mean, you know, it's oscar Is. He's
not cheap, but I feel like a Moon Night could
like fit in that in that lineup pretty well. Well.
Speaker 2: Where's the line drawn between the Defenders and Midnight Suns?
Is there even one? I don't think anyone knows, because
I'm I'm assuming that they're they're two separate teams, but
they're probably I think they're operating in the same space,
of course, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they probably cross over. Yeah, crossover.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's I don't know, it's tricky, Like
I could, I I would love to see a moonnight.
I would love to see Jack Russells wear Wolf or
ghost Riders, someone just pop up. But I think like
there's still a little bits too fantastical. I mean, Iron
Fists out of all these characters, feels like the most
fantastical of all of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if that makes sense. Yeah, I would want she
Hulg in there too, of course, as I always do,
but like that's budget it's budgeted there see Jack character, right,
M Yeah, So it's it's tough.
Speaker 2: It's tough to say, I because you have just a
bunch of people that look like regular people and are
pretty much I mean aside from what costumes they're wearing,
and then you just throw in like one of our
main MCU guys. That's just a full ten. I'm not
saying these are characters aren't tense. I just mean in
their appearance, it just would I don't know, it seems
out of place to me, but maybe I'm also have
this preconceived notion of like, well, The Defenders is just
what we have already established on Netflix, and we already
have a whole bunch of new characters that have been
created in this show. Like what, well, I can't say
White Tiger because I mean he got yeah, but there
there's apparently his daughter. It's is Yeah, he's set up
his daughter, his niece to I think one of them
takes the mantle of White Tiger, so that lead lineage
carries on. And then we have other characters that they're introducing,
and even like you mentioned Schahak, when you look at
the Shiahawks show, we got a whole plethora of other
heroes that exist in the MCU, and like even I
guess like villains maybe two that are trying to get
off easy in court. So there's a lot of other
characters street level that could fit in with the Defenders.
Speaker 3: I feel like mm hmm yeah, Like I feel like
anyone on the Thunderbolts maybe they could. Uh maybe that's
a year up. Yeah, what else are you gonna do
with some of these characters?
Speaker 2: You know, Well, you could either kill them off or
I mean, I don't know what you save them for.
I mean, you're saving Elena for for the next Avengers,
for sure, but the rest of I don't know what
you do with the rest maybe with the right Guardian
in there, but.
Speaker 3: You chuck him in Daredevil season two, that's what you. Yeah,
I feel I Moonnight would be really cool. Once again,
I don't think it'll happen. I would not predict that,
but I think that would be a really fun one
to pulling, because once again, what the heck else is
he doing? If if we get Midnight Suns. I feel
like that's years away, you know that character, because that
show is what three years old now four? I think
so twenty two. So it's like, you know, we gotta
use you gotta use them or lose them. So bring
them back in here and kind of refresh him. And
you know, if you don't, if you're worried about how
it fits in with his story or whatever future plans.
He's got all these different personalities, just give him some
other persononality for this one if you want, and you
can just kind of exist. But I think that could
work two budget wise. I feel like that character they
could pull off and it would be a little bit
more pizaz to it, and it would help establish the connection.
I just don't know. Why would Moonnight be in New
York trying to take out Fisk. I don't know, We'll
have to wait and see, but I think that would
be maybe my top hope if this is the case
in terms of an MCU crossover character. That seems like
it would fit story wise and it could be fun,
So that'd be cool. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Uh. I was just looking up what some of the
members were for for this team, and this is on
Marvel dot com, so it actually represents it. So the Defenders,
it's as former members. There's Cleia, Blazing Skull, Beast Atlas Angel.
Who is this Blazing Skull?
Speaker 3: It looks like a ghost rider, sounds like a ghost writer. Interesting. Interesting?
Speaker 2: And then so currently the current members Daredevil, Jessica Jones,
Luke Cage, Iron Fish, Captain America, Sam Wilson, and then Valkyrie.
Speaker 3: Interesting. Oh yeah, story wise, that makes no sense to
me why she would be on the team in this show,
but that would be cool because what else is she doing?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: In them see you right now? She kind of got
shafted and thor three four? What the heck was that? Whatever?
That one was?
Speaker 2: Love and thunder?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's true. Uh, yeah, cool, neat, let's see here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I have anything else on Daredvil.
Do you have anything else you on Daredevil?
Speaker 3: Well, I guess we have a probably a good time
to bring in the question from Charlie Randell here, I
have it here. So, assuming Spider Man four comes before
this from Patroon. By the way, you can join our
Patreon and ask questions whenever you want. Assuming Spider Man
four comes before darlevel season two, do you think Fisk
and Matt could have a large role in the movie
and would you want that at all? Also, what if
one character from the MCU would you want to see
team up with Matt in season two? And he says
it doesn't have to make complete sense, so it could
be like a Zany pick too. So I guess that
to answer that first one quickly. For me, like Spider
Man four, you know, coming before season two seems like
there could be some connectivity there. To me, I feel
like that that's too much, too many moving parts. I
feel like all of these Spider Man movies, it kind
of comes together very quickly in terms of when they
get the rights of the go ahead, and then it
kind of goes like top of the pile priority list
in terms of them making these things, which is why
We're getting so many rumors right now for Spider Man four,
but I don't think we'll see I don't think we'll
see any Daredevil stuff in Spider Man for I think
there's gonna be completely separate projects. I think it's like
if we had charted them out on the slate years ago,
that they were gonna be right next to each other.
And yeah, Daredevil was supposed to come out and then
Spider Man and the diferl season two. Like maybe, but
I think it's just a bit too cute, it's a
bit too I just don't think it's gonna happen. So
I would love to see some connectivity there, but I
just don't. I just don't think we're gonna get it. Plus,
it's like with Spider Man four, we got a lot
going on already between all these rumors, so I don't
know if we really need like a Fisk element, Like
maybe you get Daredevil in there, since we had it
in the last one at least with Matt. Maybe now
you actually get Daredevil in there for a fight scene.
But I would I would wager that we will not
see it, even if I do personally want to see it.
What do you think about that part.
Speaker 2: With the crossover in Your Friendly Neighbor with Spider Man.
I think that they want to do it, I really do.
I think they want to combine these two interesting and
of course we've seen it already, so they're getting their
toes wet a little bit with Tom holland Spider Man
and with Daredevil, so putting Fisk in there, I think
it's it's very much doable. But we have to take
into account the possible rumors, And we talked about earlier
with Spider Man four, like if you're doing a Spider
Queen and Spider Island story, I don't know how you
really weave in much room for Daredevil and Fisk to
come in there, because and this is where we've had
conversations before, like, Okay, how much of the shows do
you need to watch to understand what's going on in
the movies? And Captain America faces a little bit of
that problem the latest one, Brave New World. So even
Thunderbolts is gonna be probably facing a little bit of that,
but I hope not. Ultimately you're gonna have if you
have Spider Man four come out before Daredevil season two,
and those two characters are in Spider Man four. You're
gonna get the season two of Daredevil, and maybe people
haven't seen the movie Spider Man. They're gonna be like, wow,
why is Fisk and Daredevil on this totally different like
playing field right now with like Spider Man and all
these things could develop in a story like that so quickly,
so you really need to make sure it's mapped out properly.
That Beings said, I want it. I do want it,
as long as it's written. Okay, I want fists to
appear in Spider Man four. I think it'd be cool
because he's already mentioned Spider Man in the show, so
they're they're putting the little spider eggs down to cross
over and do their things.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think yeah. Honestly, now you mention it,
I could see I could say there being like a
cameo or something or like a reference to fists, like
maybe in the background on a billboard, on a TV
screen something like that. But I think it would be
something small like that, something that they could have easily
filmed in you know, one day on set, or something
they just like already had footage of that they could
like pull and just slap on a TV screen in
the background. I could say something like that, and that
would be fun just for the world building aspect of
it and really make it one that would Yeah, that
would I mean, maybe yeah, set up plant those eggs
as you were saying. But also it kind of just
make Daredevil feel like a bigger deal and you'd be like, yeah,
this is not the Netflix era anymore. This is freaking
Disney Plus Air. Look at these these guys are on
the big screen too, you know that kind of stuff.
It would just maybe that would draw some people over
to Disney Plus as well who haven't checked out that
show yet. So yeah, maybe maybe you're right, maybe there
could be like a smaller a smaller role, But I
I yeah, I think just for script wise and story reasons.
I also just don't, like, I don't know, Spider Man
is gonna be dealing with a politician who doesn't who
isn't capable of fighting him because of his power level.
I don't know. I don't know if we'd get that
on the big screen, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's already too a little bit like carbon copy
of Daredevil. I mean sees like Netflix Daredevil and then
this Daredevil too, with just this hero taken on Kingpin
like we've seen that. I don't need to see it
reskinned with Spider Man trying to do it.
Speaker 3: Like what Spider Man gonna do breaking a fake apartment
to find Andy in the prison cell and break him out,
like you know what he's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: That's what Andy's holding out for Spider Man coming.
Speaker 3: And then if you if you didn't watch that movie
but only watch Daredevil, it makes no sense how the
guy broke out, oh Man, Which which MCU character or
characters do you really want to see in Daredevil season two?
Speaker 2: Now this is where I think, Yeah, we could get
really really crazy with the characters that pop in. I
would really love to see, and I know we're not
gonna get it. I'd love to see Blade. Blade and
Daredevil would be really cool.
Speaker 3: Blade was top of my list as well top of
your list.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to see Jack Russells wear Wolf like
these really dark the Midnight Suns guys. I really like
to see them. Doctor Strange though, if I had to
pick maybe a realistic one, I think Doctor Strange and
Matt would be a really cool connection. And I mean
they both were in the same movie already. Just not
in the same scene.
Speaker 3: Oh true, Yeah, I kind of forgot about that. That's
a good point though. I like that. That's good.
Speaker 2: What about you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Blade, As I said, topic was top
of my list. I kind of talked myself in this
Moon Night thing. I really want that to happen now. Yolena,
for sure. I think they could have a fun dynamic,
whether it's you know, romantic or they're just hanging out
pounding around together. That could be really fun. And I
just want Elena on any project ever. And then you know,
for me, the easiest slim dunk one. I'm a broken
record of this point, but I just I just want
more She Hulk. I don't know where she's gonna pop up.
I don't think we're getting another season of that show.
She wasn't in Brave New World, even though there was
a lot of Hulk stuff there. I don't know where
the heck this is carry Is she gonna be an Avengers?
I don't know, but I feel like this could be
a spot that would make sense. They had great chemistry
and She Hulk when he was in there for a
couple episodes, and be really fun to kind of return
the favor if he's like, I need some big muscles here,
can you? He calls her up, and then she could
come help out. I think that could be really fun.
So those would be mine. She helped Lady Elena would
be my top three.
Speaker 2: Nice. I love it cool. Cool. Uh well, yeah, thank you,
mister Charlie Rendell for that, thank you, lovely question.
Speaker 3: We're gonna jump to our next ad break and carry
on with this news. We'll be right back, and we
are back, so our next uh topic here.
Speaker 2: Oh it's it's not good. It's it's a negative one
saw Levin that's been canceled. Kind of surprising, right, Yeah,
it feels like easy movie to make, smaller budget and a
lot of people would want a shot at it. Director
writer wise, I'm really surprised about this.
Speaker 3: I really thought like, because we got we got the
last one, it was like a moderate success, right, and
then we got the I forget It was very soon
after ten that it was like, yeah, I saw Eleven's
happen and it's coming out next year, and then I
got pushed and now it's getting pushed beyond the grave,
it seems. But yeah, I don't know. I I I'm
not super bummed. With this, even though I like Saw
because it's like, well we've had ten of these. I
don't know if I don't know if I need an eleventh,
But I mean, we'll get Saw again at some point.
I think it'll just be kicked down the road if
clearly whatever they had working on here we're just was
not happening. But of course, and I think Travis mentioned
this in the discord, just like if this is in
fact canceled and we don't get another one for another
few years, like maybe we never get topin Bell back,
and then like what is Saw without without our boy
in there? So yeah, I don't know. I'm not super
strong about this, but it's kind of just I guess it.
It really really is.
Speaker 2: I'm I think that they were definitely on the eppisom
because when you look at Saw ten, it had a
budget of thirteen million and a grossed one hundred and
twelve million. See, that's that's profit that just needs for
exact sorrys like fucking handless man that freaked.
Speaker 3: Me out, buster for Russell Beldin, that for any exact man.
That I mean, yeah, they exactly want to see the
billion dollar you know, but that I mean that would
make an exec just cream their jeans. Right. That's that's
value rate there. That's a great budget to profit ratio.
I don't know. I'm shocked that's canceled.
Speaker 2: Do you think it's coming down to scheduling or could
it be something more severe like tot them Bell?
Speaker 3: The man is eighty two.
Speaker 2: Years young, and he's he's been around for many of
these projects. And I mean, I'd hate to say it,
but maybe they had a really strong story involving him.
He was leading the charge, and maybe maybe he is
just not capable in his younger years now his twilight years.
Like I don't want to put that negativity out there,
but these things happen, and it can delay a film,
set it back, and.
Speaker 3: Can it can Yeah, I just don't know. Oh man,
I don't know. I don't know what the heck's going
on here. I to me, it's see my prediction will
be this is like like maybe this project that they
were working on, the script, this production crew, that thing
is canceled. But I think this will come around again.
I like money talks, so I think we're gonna get it.
I think we might just have to wait a few
more years. And yeah, maybe that's without Tobin unfortunately. But
I do think that's more just like a delay if anything.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not the first time either that they've
tried doing a movie without Tobin Well. I mean, obviously
we have all the other ones, but Tobin is still
kind of he's usually a voice in those other iterations.
But then you have what was it the Book of Saw?
Speaker 3: Is that the one that came out like during COVID
spiral spiral?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and so that that one, I think it
was completely absent of Tobin Bell.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure. Oh man, I can't remember. Yeah, it's
been it's been a while.
Speaker 2: But again, that's them trying to do like their own
original story or something like that. And I think that's
like a sequel after all the other films by by
a few years. It's like way down the line, where
is this one?
Speaker 3: Rewatched that movie? No, but I wouldn't either. I wouldn't
mind rewatching it just to kind of see it, because
I mean, they could do another movie without Tobin Bell
and pick pick that character, because that guy survives.
Speaker 2: He was the killer, right, we get that. I don't know, well,
I don't know that. I don't know who they or
what they do for for another one without told them
unless it's just a remake, but I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think they dare touch that. That's interesting remake potential.
Someday we'll get that. Mm hmmm yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, other than that, some good news. God of warshow
greenlit for two seasons at Amazon.
Speaker 3: Have you played Got a War? I have. I've played
the new the two New Ones, played the old old
Ones back in the day. Uh? Cool? Yeah? Is there
enough story there first? For two seasons? Well, there's two games. Yeah,
that's true. So I mean there's more than two games,
there's like ten games or something.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like the season one and two do
you think that's gonna start off in the like the
PS four era or go back to like the one two.
Speaker 3: I do think they will do that, I think, And
then they might maybe they'll have some crazy flashbacks where
you see some of that old school stuff. But I
think they The new Ones are very grounded, very emotional.
They feel like a TV show when you're playing the
game in terms of the amount of story in there.
They focus on acting and camera work and cinematography and
all that stuff. So I think I think they'll definitely
go there. That's very twenty five coded type material. So
I think we'll I think we'll get that for sure. Perfect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm happy with Fallout. I think Amazon
does a great job with their shows like The Boys
and and Invincible. I hear is really good too, So
I got full full faith in them for do a
show like this. Uh and yeah, more news. Coco too
has been confirmed for twenty and twenty nine. I believe
or not.
Speaker 3: I've not seen the first Coco movie. I know, I
don't believe that, believe it. I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2: I'm busy watching Bugs Life and rad Atooey and all that.
Speaker 3: How many times have you seen Bugs Life in your
Bugs Life, my Bugs Life?
Speaker 2: Probably in my actual life, probably more than thirty more
than thirty.
Speaker 3: Wow, Probably one of those times you thought, let me
watch Coco instead.
Speaker 2: No, it's just I love Flick and Hopper and all
those characters, those crazy ants. But I'm gonna make a
point to see it because with with with the teen,
we've been going through a lot of just Disney movies
in general, and so we've been going through heavy right now,
Frozen and Mawana and I Love in Canto. I really
really love in Canto. That movie is fantastic. So we'll
get into Coco soon. And I don't even think I
saw a good Dinosaur, or maybe I had a long
long time ago, but yeah, we watched that one for
the first time a little bit ago.
Speaker 3: But I'm teen able to like have a favorite right now.
Speaker 2: She sings let it Go, and she says on on Elsa,
that's like, that is okay, so we have a Yeah,
it's official.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the dinosaur forgotten about already forgotten?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Frozen, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Detail in the chat Coco is a ten out of ten,
but doesn't need a sequel.
Speaker 3: That's the sentiment I was seeing in the discord today.
People were talking with this and they're like, what are
they doing here? This makes no sense. There's no room
for a sequel here, even though everyone loves that first movie.
I really like it too. I've only seen it once.
I watched it on an airplane, so not the screen
to experience such a beautiful film. But it was a
really great story. I can't remember how much sequl potential
it had, to be honest with you, but I'm sure
I have faith in Detour and the rest of the
people in the discord there, so it seems like a
I mean, you know, money talks once again. So it
makes sense because I think that first one was pretty profitable,
so we're getting it. I think that's the era we're
gonna get for Pixars. So buckle up, people. Sequels are
coming at you, left, right, and center. Except for Elio.
I guess that's a non sequel.
Speaker 2: Another and original, which yeah, we can we can steer
right into that. Now for the trailer discussions, what do
you think of this trailer?
Speaker 3: You know, what's funny this? This is a one. I
think this is a third trailer at least. This is
the third time it's been like brought up on the cast.
Maybe we just call like the initial concept of like
a teaser or something, But this is the first time
that I actually was pulled in and actually liked what
I was seeing here. And I think a lot of
it was kind of that similar idea. There's a kid
who who doesn't really fit in, doesn't really have any
friends back at home, and he just wants to get
abducted by aliens because he wants to go find friends
up there and see what that's all about. And I
think for the first time that the concept actually really
sang to me in a way. Here, I think this
looks actually quite fun. I think it seems like it's
got some good emotion to it. I don't think a
lot of the humor really worked. And you know, Pixar
stuff always is kind of supposed to be for kids
but also enjoyable for adults. This one does seem a
little bit more kid centric in terms of the audience,
as the vibe' get. But it seems like there's a
lot of good relatable themes in there, as you know,
introverted kid myself. So I don't know, maybe I'll find
this one quite emotional. Yeah, and you know, it's beautiful,
as all these movies always are from Pixars. So I
I for the first time, I'm actually like kind of
excited for it. Now, Am I going to the theater? Noe?
I'm gonna wait until it hits this TV that's right
next to me, and then I'll watch it there if
I remember what I probably won't. I still haven't seen
in sid Out too. I'm a little behind on my
Pixar movies of the moment, but I this is the
first time that I was actually pulled in a little
bit more. But how about you were you were you
abducted this time around? I feel like it's lacking something.
I don't know what that is. I don't have that
special sauce, right, doesn't.
Speaker 2: Have that special sauce.
Speaker 3: But visually dish, but it's lacking that extra.
Speaker 2: Is that punch that bizarre? Visually it looks fantastic.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: I was totally on board with it. It looks great,
and I think that there is a fun story in here,
just with the aliens want to be.
Speaker 3: Abducted and all that.
Speaker 2: I could see myself going to the theater to see
this one. I don't know if I would do like
a usually like with Maana two. And there's another one.
I tricked Madison like, Okay, we're going to see Lord
of the Rings Extended Editions in theater. It's like okay, fine,
and then we get there and it's like, oh, it's
ma Wana two playing and just you know, I like
to tricker, so this I might have big time. So
we'll see if I gas lighter with Elio or not.
Speaker 3: Now what you can't always just say Lord of the
Rings Extended Edition, though, you must have multiple films that
you propose as the thing.
Speaker 2: Sally, it's usually it's Lord of the Rings. Because yet
again Lord of the Rings. Extend editions are back in theaters.
Speaker 3: What's the point now where she knows that you're not
actually taking her to the extended Yeah, I've done it
at least three times, or I said, Lord of the Rings.
So the third time did she fall for it? Still? No? Yeah,
yeah she did help to change. Fourth time. The charm
report back on how that goes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks great, but it also looks great and
actually caught me by surprises. Happy Gilmore too. This is
I feel like this is just a i don't know,
like one of the pillars. Well, not a pillar foundation
for geek Verse, but a pillar foundation for me. And
I feel like my friendship with you guys through geek
Verse because you know, back in the target days, Happy
Gilmore or Christmas Vacation was one of the two movies
playing in the break room because there's nothing else to
play and just always watching, just always watching Happy Gilmore.
I put it on at the start of my thirty
minute lunch and it was just I would laugh throughout
the whole my whole lunch break, and it's just always
be a great time, and so this just this feels
like a real good homage to the original seeing all
the returning cast members, and it looks like it's gonna
be a lot of fun. I don't think it's gonna
it's not gonna hit those high notes like that original
one does, because that one just, you know, times change,
and I think they even they even make a mockery
of it a little bit in the trailer for this,
like some of the jokes obviously have to change too,
and that's totally fine, it's understandable. But I'm still really
looking forward to this. I think it's gonna be it's
gonna be a good fun time, and I hope, I
hope that we can do a review for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it'll be. It's a Netflix movie rather
than a theater experience, so they don't expect this to
have an oscar run or anything like that. They don't
need to get any theaters for that reason. I guess.
Shocker there. Yeah, I mean, you know, every one's coming
back other than the people who have since passed away,
because I think there has been a few people, like
from the original one that aren't around anymore. Right, But otherwise,
everyone's here. It's real smash Bro's moment. Everyone's here. So
I don't know. I think it'll like what is the
story gonna be? Like why why does he need to
win again? Like the last time it was because of
the Grandma's house? Is he like, yeah, did he run
out of money?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Why does he need to do this again?
Speaker 2: I mean the trailer can the trailer kind of made
it seem like I feel like a house was on
the line, but can't be the grandma.
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe he inherited the grandma's house, he wants to keep it.
Speaker 3: Maybe he did run out of money.
Speaker 2: It'll probably be something super super simple that he'll just
glaze over really really quickly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what his reasonings are. Yeah,
I mean not like there needs to be much. I
don't know. I you know, is this gonna be good
and funny? I don't know. Maybe maybe we'll have a
couple of good moments in there, but it's hard hard
to match that original, which I did watch again recently
for the first time in a few years. But yeah,
that was another one for me that would watch every
single night. With my cousin over the summer and we
just put it on every single night. And one year
we did Superstar the Molly Shannon movie, but I feel
like usually was happy Gilmour was our every single night
we put it on movie. And so I've seen this
movie way too many times and yeah, watched again recently,
like it's still it's still funny, it's still great. I
still really enjoy it. So yeah, I don't know, I
don't know if excited is the right word, but I'll
watch this one for sure to see if we.
Speaker 2: Can maybe do a retro for that first one, because
it caught me off guard that Kirkland was not really
a part of that kind of running joke with watching
it in the break room because when we're doing that
Blockbuster board game and I thought I had it in
the bag because I had to Kirkland had to guess it,
and I was doing the re enacting like are you.
Speaker 3: Too good for your home?
Speaker 2: Answer me like I.
Speaker 3: Don't know that quote. I mean, come on, he didn't
get it. Open your eyes, kid.
Speaker 2: So I think a retros need it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. One comment I really liked on the YouTube video
for this trailer is from this guy here an official
trailer drop. I believe. I believe mister Gilmore accomplished that
feat no more than a few hours ago. Oh, I
love it. It's got four point four thousand lights on that.
It's pretty insane. So oh that's hilarious. God damn uh cool?
What trailer? What trailer do you want to hit next? Well,
I'm curious because you earlier, when we were talking Spider
Man stuff, you mentioned that you want to see Dakota
Johnson as this villain. Now, was she top of mind
for you? Because the Materialists trailer here? Were you compelled
by her? Were you pulled in? That?
Speaker 2: Definitely had a hand in manipulating my thoughts?
Speaker 3: Yeah, manipulating What a way to put it. I I think,
I don't know how. I I don't know if I
love this trailer necessarily, but it is the next and
maybe from Selen a song who did Past Lives, which
is a fantastic movie that I really loved from a
couple of years ago. So I think just on that
name recognition alone, writer director karma though, I definitely want
to check this out. I like the cast here, you know,
Dakota Johnson alongside Chris Evans and Pedro and it seems
like a bit of a love triangle scenario here. She's
obviously great at writing a love triangle situation if you
go back to past lives as recently as her last movie.
So yeah, very uh yeah, I think I'll definitely want
to check this one out because I'm sure it'll be
very high quality. I don't know if I love the
surrounding story of her being like this matchmaker situation, so
I don't know. We'll see what the kind of deal
is there, but I'm definitely I think that one's gonna
be pretty good.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. This is opening night for sure. We're gonna
get the babysitter. I'm gonna take masks and to see this.
I'm actually really really pumped to do.
Speaker 3: You think that's one? You can tell her what the
movie is, or you're gonna have to do the Lord
of the Rings trick. That'll be a Lord of the
Rings for sure. Really, she why wouldn't she want to
see this one on her own merit?
Speaker 2: I know she would, but I just you just wanted
to see how many times you can get her purely
just yeah, screwing her third and gaslighting her out of
my own my.
Speaker 3: Own yeah, to earlier have to throw Lord of the
Rings in there. Eventually, do you think you'll do that too?
One day it actually will be Lord of the Rings
one days. Will she be disappointed or will she probably
likes Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 2: I assume she likes the Hobbit more than Lord of
the Rings because Lord of the Rings is too dark
and depressing.
Speaker 3: Okay, but you know what to answer that detail?
Speaker 2: The official time, when we actually do see Lord of
the Rings, it's going to be the Hunt for Galla movie.
Speaker 3: That's when. Oh, okay, that's that's smart. What do you
what do you think would happen if you told her
we're going to go see The Hobbit Extended Edition, but
it was actually the Lord of the Rings. How would
she react to that? Do you think that's interesting? Uh?
Speaker 2: It probably depends on which Lord of the Rings, and
it depends on which Hobbit that I am telling her
we'd be seeing. But I think she'd be a little
bit bummed because she would prefer the Hobbit.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, the materialist, this looks fantastic. I am
so pumped for this, and yeah, Pedro Pascal Chris Evans
in there at Dakota with Dakota, I think this is
just gonna be a fantastic love triangle. I'm really, really
really excited for this. I think there's gonna be a
lot of a lot of just yeah, a lot of
fun with this storyline. And she just like Paedro, seems
so charismatic. I love the idea of him playing like
this rich billionaire kind of guy, and just yeah, I'm
excited to see this story and to see why she
can't be with Chris Evans character and all this jazz
even though she wants to be with Chris Evans' character.
I love a good a good story like this. It's
just it pulls at your your heart strings.
Speaker 3: And I mean so Silia Song the writer director here
married to Justin Kurwitz, who is the writer of Challengers.
So another big love triangle situation. So whatever's going on
in that relationship? Love triangles are top of mine. But
you have you? Did you ever get around it past lives?
Did you see that one?
Speaker 2: No, I've not seen it yet.
Speaker 3: You should go back and check that out. Worth worth
it even though actually is this maybe a little more
like down to earth and ground? And I guess but
still good, still good, cool, put on your list, freak
your Friday. Did you laugh at all on this trailer
when you were watching it?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: No, No I did not.
Speaker 3: I didn't either.
Speaker 2: But do you laugh at the original?
Speaker 3: I did when I watched it as a kid, but
I haven't watched it in like probably fifteen years at least. Yeah,
I haven't seen it for a while either. Yeah, I
wonder I was gonna ask you if you watch it recently.
So I don't know. I don't know how well that
holds up.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think that there's some things that
I definitely enjoy in that first one, and I think
it's a it's a fun time, it's a classic. But
this is a sequel I don't think I ever needed.
And I don't know who they're catering to. Are they
catering to.
Speaker 3: The people that grew up and watch that first one
and really really enjoyed it, or.
Speaker 2: Are they the generation of kids and yeah, yeah, so
is that what they're trying to to cater to.
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's it's tricky, and I think that
there's a lot of things in here that are playing
true to the original, and they're they're trying to really
like bring in all these familiar faces and whatnot.
Speaker 2: And I think that that's great. I think it's fun
and it's it's cool to see all the cast return
and do this kind of a gig together. But it's
not necessarily my gig.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is definitely one wait and see what the
discord thinks before I decide if I'm going to spend
my time watching it. I don't know. I you know,
Lindsey Lohan glad to have her back acting crushing it again. Uh,
and maybe this could kind of elevate her again, get
her back and more people's eyes and see what you
can do next. But just wasn't Uh wasn't wasn't doing
it for me unfortunately. Yeah, Happy Gilmore is the legacy
sequel at all take out of these two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. I would agree with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. How about in.
Speaker 2: Speaking of like sequels prequels, what about Ballerina? What this
do for? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean I feel like half the shots in this
trailer I've seen in other trailers, So I don't know,
I don't know what's really new and spicy about this one.
I feel like the answers like nothing. Really, I think you know,
the movie looks solid, looks good enough. I like on
it Armist of course, she's fantastic. Keanu's in there. Uh,
action sequences, there's axes being thrown at people's head, there's flamethrowers,
a lot of flamethrowers. I like her, like like ponn
Show flamethrower combo that she had going on there at
one point. So I don't know. I think this movie
looks totally fine, and I'm sure it'll be totally fine.
A Classics seven out of ten. You know you never watched.
Speaker 2: The Continental Show, did you?
Speaker 3: No? I did not? Did you? I did not? And
I really want too.
Speaker 2: That's something that's on my list just because it's more
well put Past lives over and over.
Speaker 3: That Okay past Lives won't. Yeah, I won't distract you
from Past Live check.
Speaker 2: Uh, but yeah, it's it's definitely.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's definitely it's all That show is trash. I'll
take your word for it. I can believe you.
Speaker 2: I think though, The Ballerina definitely has some excitement in there.
For me, I'm looking forward to it. I don't know
if I'm gonna rush opening weekend unless the boys are
all doing a review of Like, Okay, well I'll be there.
I'll be there opening opening night.
Speaker 3: When's this bad Boy coming out? I don't know, Actually
I forgot, but googling here a little June sixth, June sixth, Okay, uh,
but yeah I think that Uh seeing mister mister Wick
back in this movie, I think that's that's gonna be
pretty pretty jazzed, pretty excited.
Speaker 2: So I'm game for that. That's gonna that'll pull me in.
But yeah, like I said, probably not opening night unless
we're confirmed being a review. Then I'll be there for
the boys, for the fans, the listeners and all that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, boys and fans, the listeners and what else
do we have? I guess together is the last one
on that'll listen here. So this is the latest horror
horror thriller situation from Neon, who's been just crushing it
lately as the studio there. I think it's fun. So
I think Alison Brie and Dave Franco I think they're
married in real life. Right, It's kind of like a
fun This is a fun duo of them working together
and kind of playing these characters in a very potentially
body horror type of way are kind of being fused together, right.
I love it, especially at the very end of the
trailer when it drops the title and then like the
letters kind of just start fusing together, Like especially that
last shot too, with the eyes and how like they're
kind of sinking. And I think that's like whatever is
going on here, weird freaky fun concept and I'm super
into it. I think this looks like a lot of fun,
really cool to have them acting alongside each other there.
Uh with this too, I should look up while you're
talking who is like writing and directing this? But I
think this looks really really fun. And I also love
that it's a trailer that doesn't really reveal too much,
Like it introduces like this weird sci fi e concept
and then I feel like just shows you weird freaky
shots after weird freaky shots and doesn't really reveal too
much about what's going on. So I feel like I'm
still at the edge of my seat can't wait to
see what's going on here. So this is definitely shot
to the top end of my excitement list here. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this, Uh, there's there's definitely something going on here
and with this, the storyline that's very mysterious and very unsettling,
and I'm I'm looking forward to this. It's it's cool too.
Just the last time I saw Dave Franco and Alison
Breed together was probably The Disaster Artist. I don't think
I've seen them in anything else together, but I think
I think they're great, obviously because they're married, so they
have great chemistry together, and I love seeing that represented
on the screen by getting to play very different characters
and diverse roles because that chemistry is still existent between
the two is as an actor actress. So I think
this has a lot of hype for me. I'm looking
forward to seeing what we're really dealing with with this
this entity thing that's I'm assuming some kind of entity
trying to like get at them or get into them
or do something. I don't know, it's just seems super zany.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So the writer director here is Michael Shanks, who
hasn't directed anything since twenty nineteen and has only done
like shorts, looks like a music video, some episodes of
TV stuff. So this is definitely gonna be a bet
of an unknown quantity, I guess a little untested on
these battlegrounds here, so we'll see what happens. But I'm
definitely down to give it a shot. I think this
looks very creative and fun and freaky good visuals. Yeah cool,
oh cool?
Speaker 2: Uh, well, of course in a classic tradition, Yeah, how
would you ask per Maddie Seggs rank the trailers in
terms of your excitement for the projects?
Speaker 3: Okay, great question. I'm gonna go number one. I'm gonna
go from the top. Number one, I'm most excited for
it together and one we just talked about looks freaking
weird and cool, a good cast. Number two I'm gonna
go with I'll go with Materialists. I think mostly that
it just put this movie on my radar, not necessarily
the trailer itself, but the fact that I now know
of the next movie from this director. That's that's kind
of what's done for me here. Number three, I think
I'm gonna give it to my boy elioh because for
the first time I actually care about this movie. So
that's a good sign of a trailer. Number four, I'll
go Happy Gilmore two. Uh, it's happy to Gilmore two.
Number five I'll go Ballerina Freaky Friday. Drop into number
six here least excited for that one. Yeah, there's my
ranking for you. Cool. Cool.
Speaker 2: My number one is gonna be the Materialists, okay.
Speaker 3: Number two, Oh, I think I'm gonna go Ballerina. Oh yeah,
but that's it's tough, but yeah yeah, Ballerina number three,
Happy Gilmore two, number four, I go together. I don't
like how far Together dropped on your ranking.
Speaker 2: I don't like it either, but Happy Gilmore is just
complete nostalgia bias swooping in there unfortunately.
Speaker 3: And Ballerina.
Speaker 2: I mean, I say that, but all I got is
Canay's face in my mind right now when I'm saying it.
Speaker 3: So that's just got my excitement. He has an effect
on people, doesn't he. He does have an effect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my manipulation and being manipulated again, Spider Queen, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Elio is uh number five?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because together, number four, number five and freaking your
Friday number six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, freak Friday. Bottom of the pack for both of us. Yes, yeah, unfortunately,
way down there. Cool.
Speaker 2: Well, that's it, thank you, Unless you got anything else
you want to add.
Speaker 3: This is it freaks me out. You did it earlier.
Speaker 2: It was like the length was perfect, Like it's just
no hand.
Speaker 3: Did you notice what this hoodie is? My Beaver Canoe
hoodie remembered Beaver Canoe. Beaver Canoe. You don't remember beaver Canoe.
This is like the Target, the Target brand, like for
the Canadian stuff all the and there was like there
was like, you know, random shit you could put on
your wall clocks. I'm sure, yeah, the Beaver Canoe brand.
So you've been sitting on that for ten years. I've
been sitting on it. I've been it's been hanging in
my closet. I don't know why I haven't. I've not
worn it in a long time, but I still have it.
Speaker 2: But it looks like a good quality hoodie.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's held up through thick and thin.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like a classic camping sweater. But I guess I'm
camping inside today.
Speaker 2: Cool anyway, all right, ladies, gentlemen, Well, we will be
back later sometime, maybe the weekend next week. You'll hear
from us soon, so we'll see you in the search bar.
Speaker 3: Bye bye,