1 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,839 Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist 2 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,239 Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle's senior elections correspondent at The 3 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,879 Federalist and your experienced Shirpa on today's quest for Knowledge. 4 00:00:29,239 --> 00:00:31,839 As always, you can email the show at radio at 5 00:00:31,839 --> 00:00:36,159 the Federalist dot com, follow us on x at FDR LST, 6 00:00:36,719 --> 00:00:39,479 make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcast, and 7 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:43,439 of course to the premium version of our website as well. 8 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,159 Our guest today is Tyler O'Neill, senior editor at The 9 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,039 Daily Signal, an author of the new book The Woke 10 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:56,000 top Us The Dark Money Cabal Manipulating the Federal Government. 11 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,840 Thank you so much for joining us Tyler on this 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,960 edition of the fed Realist Radio Hour. 13 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,159 Speaker 2: Hey, thanks so much for having me, Matt. 14 00:01:03,799 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: It's an interesting title, and I know what it means 15 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,079 right away. You look at it and you say, hmmm, 16 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,760 this book is filled with tentacles, is it not? 17 00:01:14,519 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: Yes, very much so. So yeah. The Woke to Pus 18 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,879 is this octopus that's driving the woke ideology. And my 19 00:01:22,159 --> 00:01:28,319 basic contention is that the woke elites that want to 20 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,760 control the way that you and I think and the 21 00:01:30,799 --> 00:01:35,000 way that you and I live have infiltrated the federal government. 22 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,519 So you know, it's funny. There are a lot of 23 00:01:37,599 --> 00:01:40,439 onions to peel back here, a layers of the onion 24 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,079 to peel back. For those of us who are lucky 25 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,760 enough to be told about the Constitution in school, you know, 26 00:01:47,799 --> 00:01:51,400 I almost assume that people have, but unfortunately I can't 27 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,760 assume that anymore. But those of us who do know 28 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,040 about the Constitution and learned about then it's nifty checks 29 00:01:59,079 --> 00:02:02,439 and balances. The way that Congress and the President and 30 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,319 the Supreme Court are supposed to work, well, you can 31 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:10,120 pretty much forget much of that because the administrative state 32 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:15,439 has taken over the pretty much the vast majority of 33 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:20,800 real lawmaking authority in this country. Most of the rules 34 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,919 that you and I have to live by are regulations 35 00:02:24,159 --> 00:02:27,919 passed by bureaucratic agencies. There are four hundred and thirty 36 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,520 eight federal agencies in the federal government. It's too much 37 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,759 for anybody to keep track of all the time, and 38 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,240 all these agencies right far more regulations every year than 39 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,680 Congress passes laws. And many of these agencies are also 40 00:02:43,879 --> 00:02:47,080 insulated in some ways so that they can act as 41 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,759 a deep state, even against the people's elected president, who 42 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,680 is the head of the executive branch. So one of 43 00:02:53,719 --> 00:02:57,039 the main ways that the woke to pus that these 44 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:03,319 woke elites can force gender ideology, critical race theory, climate alarmism, 45 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,960 and their preference for technocratic government on the rest of 46 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:13,479 us is by infiltrating this vast federal bureaucracy and essentially 47 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,800 directing it the way they want it to go. And 48 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,520 so my book lays out how these elites did so 49 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:25,080 on a host of issues, particularly you know, transgender issues, 50 00:03:25,159 --> 00:03:33,400 the weaponization of law enforcement against conservatives, you know, environmental issues, unions, education, 51 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,919 especially during COVID, and the way that we vote even 52 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,680 on Israel. I have a big chapter on how these 53 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:47,639 woke actors were trying to undermine Biden's at least you know, 54 00:03:47,879 --> 00:03:51,439 his rhetoric saying he stands with Israel. Of course, Biden's 55 00:03:51,439 --> 00:03:54,919 real policy has always been muddled, had always been muddled 56 00:03:54,919 --> 00:03:58,080 on that issue. But they had their tentacles deep in 57 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,800 the Biden administration. Trump is thankfully cutting some of those 58 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,360 tentacles off, but many of the tentacles are able to 59 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,039 pull themselves back, you know, prepare to oppose Trump from 60 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,439 the outside or and in many cases create a deep 61 00:04:14,439 --> 00:04:19,079 state effort inside the federal bureaucracy to oppose the president 62 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,199 from within. So I think the book is still extremely 63 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,079 relevant even though it is you know, it is a 64 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:30,399 bright new day, a new dawn in America, but these 65 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:35,040 forces are trying to pull that blackout curtain back down 66 00:04:35,519 --> 00:04:38,639 to bring us back into the Joe Biden nightmare. So 67 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,319 we have to be constantly vigilant. And I think this 68 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,199 book provides a roadmap for Doge and for others to 69 00:04:45,439 --> 00:04:49,360 secure the hopeful successes of the next four years. 70 00:04:49,759 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to get to those next four years. 71 00:04:51,759 --> 00:04:54,720 And actually the first several days of what has been 72 00:04:54,759 --> 00:05:01,279 an energetic and muscular new administration absolutely shocking for those 73 00:05:01,319 --> 00:05:03,920 of us who have been lulled into sleep by the 74 00:05:03,959 --> 00:05:08,720 dementarian who led supposedly led this nation for four years. 75 00:05:09,319 --> 00:05:11,480 First and foremost, though, you know, when I was a 76 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,199 kid growing up one hundred and fifty years ago, they 77 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:19,040 used to have something on Saturday morning cartoons called Schoolhouse Rock, 78 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:25,639 And I got this clip where this little cartoon Bill 79 00:05:26,079 --> 00:05:29,839 would walk up the Capitol steps lamenting that he was 80 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,279 just a bill. Oh, yes, he is only a bill, 81 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,879 and I'm sitting here on capit. Oh yeah, I just 82 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,319 triggered a lot of Generation xers, by the way, But 83 00:05:42,519 --> 00:05:45,519 you're telling me that you know what we learned from 84 00:05:45,639 --> 00:05:48,920 Saturday morning cartoons and then hopefully, as you noted, less 85 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,759 and less out there getting an actual civics class. But 86 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,160 none of that stuff is true. It doesn't matter that 87 00:05:54,199 --> 00:05:56,319 we have a constitution. It doesn't matter that we have 88 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:02,040 three separate branches of government. Adds is the people pulling 89 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:07,680 the strings behind the puppet who is out front, And 90 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,160 that puppet for four years, of course, was Joe Biden. 91 00:06:10,439 --> 00:06:12,199 I want to get your thought on this. You had 92 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:17,120 said in a promotional video I saw of the book, 93 00:06:17,959 --> 00:06:20,839 and this was several months ago, so we're talking about 94 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,680 a different time. You said you asked this question, and 95 00:06:23,759 --> 00:06:27,360 I think it was absolutely an important question that a 96 00:06:27,399 --> 00:06:30,439 lot of Americans were asking several months ago. Who is 97 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,839 really in control in Washington? How can the President of 98 00:06:33,879 --> 00:06:37,519 the United States, someone who wields immense power, be pressured 99 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,680 to step aside. Let's answer that question now. How did 100 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:46,319 that what I seriously believe was a silent or quiet coup? 101 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,480 How did that happen? In twenty twenty four, in the 102 00:06:49,519 --> 00:06:50,720 United States of America. 103 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,319 Speaker 2: So I don't have any internal knowledge on exactly how 104 00:06:55,360 --> 00:07:00,639 it happened. But what my book reveals is that these 105 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:05,439 woke activist groups had a tremendous impact on the administration. 106 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,759 And it seems to me that, you know, I think 107 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:15,240 the cabal that forced Biden out was very broad, and 108 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,279 I think this is this is a topic for like 109 00:07:18,399 --> 00:07:23,480 a whole different book. But what if you and I recall, 110 00:07:23,959 --> 00:07:27,160 I mean, Biden was saying again and again after that 111 00:07:27,319 --> 00:07:31,759 disastrous debate performance with Trump, he said, look, I'm in 112 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,360 it to win it. I'm staying in there. Stop asking 113 00:07:35,399 --> 00:07:38,360 me these questions. He would bring it up all the time, 114 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,879 and even two days before he finally, you know, before 115 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,519 he finally dropped out and endorsed Kamala Harris, he had said, no, 116 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:50,600 I'm in this race. I'm not dropping out. So to 117 00:07:50,639 --> 00:07:53,399 say that he was forced out kicking and screaming, I 118 00:07:53,399 --> 00:07:58,160 think is almost an understatement. There were a few notable 119 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:02,639 moments before dropped out that kind of reveal something, and 120 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,519 then there was one right afterward before he dropped out. 121 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,920 It lets it was leaked that former House Speaker Nancy 122 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:15,439 Pelosi and a certain former president by the name of 123 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:21,879 Barack Obama had both pressured him to step aside, and 124 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,959 that suggests that they still had more clout among the 125 00:08:25,959 --> 00:08:29,560 people really pulling the strings than Biden did. And then 126 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,279 after he dropped out, one of the first voices to 127 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:40,360 immediately endorse Kamala Harris was Alex Soros, who you know, 128 00:08:40,399 --> 00:08:44,960 for those most people are familiar with, George Soros. George 129 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,720 Soros is getting up there in years. He's still a force, 130 00:08:47,759 --> 00:08:51,159 don't get me wrong, But he turned over the reins 131 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:57,600 of his Open Society Foundations, his vast you know, funding apparatus. 132 00:08:57,639 --> 00:09:00,759 He turned them over to Alex Soros, his on and 133 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,799 Alex Soros has said that he's going to be even 134 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:07,080 more political than his dad. Alex Soros is currently engaged 135 00:09:07,519 --> 00:09:13,279 to whom Abodin, who should remind everyone you know she was. 136 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,000 She was the woman who used to be married to 137 00:09:15,279 --> 00:09:18,000 uh Wiener, so you know. 138 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,759 Speaker 1: Oh yes, oh yes, and she has she has the 139 00:09:20,759 --> 00:09:21,600 photos to prove it. 140 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. And she was Hillary Clinton's close aid. So you know, 141 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,360 to say that Alex Soros is well connected would also 142 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:38,639 be an understatement, and his rush to endorse Kamala suggests 143 00:09:38,639 --> 00:09:41,320 to me that he was very much part of this 144 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,399 cabal that forced Biden out, and to have the big 145 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:48,840 money donor who is kind of, you know, one of 146 00:09:48,879 --> 00:09:51,559 the one of the guys orchestrating from what I understand, 147 00:09:51,759 --> 00:09:55,320 the entire woke to pus enterprise that I write about. 148 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,840 Having him jump in like this really suggests to me 149 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,600 that he was a big player in Biden ultimately deciding 150 00:10:04,639 --> 00:10:06,120 he wasn't going to stay in the race. 151 00:10:06,759 --> 00:10:10,519 Speaker 1: And certainly you have the Hollywood glitterati, the elites who 152 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,519 made it all the more pressing with the George Cloonies 153 00:10:14,639 --> 00:10:16,840 of the world and their mea culpa is, Oh, I 154 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,720 guess he's not the same guy we used to know, 155 00:10:18,799 --> 00:10:22,399 old Joe. And then of course you have the accomplice media, 156 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,639 the prav de press, you know, all in the New 157 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,600 York Times, pushing this old man out, wielding whatever clout 158 00:10:31,639 --> 00:10:34,080 they have. But I want to talk about, you know, 159 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,600 how we got to that point, because this isn't something 160 00:10:37,639 --> 00:10:40,799 that happened overnight. As a matter of fact, if you 161 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,159 look back, I mean, you can see the makings of 162 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:49,000 this going back a century. I just recently, on this 163 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,240 very podcast, spoke to a former representative, Christopher Cox, who 164 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:59,399 has written a very interesting book about President Woodrow Wilson, 165 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,679 and you can see the you know, the creation really 166 00:11:03,759 --> 00:11:06,960 the fundamentals of the administrative state going all the way 167 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,759 back to that point in history. You see it, of 168 00:11:10,799 --> 00:11:14,960 course with FDR on steroids, and then Lyndon Baines Johnson 169 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,519 of course in the Great Society. I mean, it just exploded. 170 00:11:19,159 --> 00:11:22,399 So the build up of the federal government has been 171 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:27,120 building up, these bureaucrats in this administrative state for a 172 00:11:27,159 --> 00:11:32,240 long time. What are they doing these days to control 173 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:33,440 the reigns of power? 174 00:11:35,399 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So in the outgoing days of the Biden administration, 175 00:11:40,159 --> 00:11:42,240 there were a lot of things put in place to 176 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:47,600 try to prevent President Trump's rightful you know, clearing house rightful, 177 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,679 restoring science from some of the ideologies that have hoodwinked 178 00:11:52,799 --> 00:11:56,080 the government for a long time. And some of these 179 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,159 things like the Office of Personnel Management created a rule 180 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,759 that was trying to prevent Trump from doing Schedule F again. 181 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,559 And Schedule F, for those who don't know, is a 182 00:12:09,519 --> 00:12:12,000 there are all these schedules in the federal government where 183 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,799 every employee fits under a schedule. It's a classification system, 184 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,799 and Schedule F would essentially enable a president to fire 185 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:26,000 bureaucrats who were engaged in policy making authorities but had 186 00:12:26,039 --> 00:12:31,039 the protections of career civil servants. And so you know, 187 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,039 you have there's all this and you talk about the 188 00:12:35,799 --> 00:12:39,320 administrative state going all the way back. We you know, 189 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,159 Woodrow Wilson with his War Socialism really kind of started it. 190 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,399 You're very right about that. FDR expanded it. But even 191 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:53,159 FDR realized that public sector unions, the idea that a 192 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:59,960 union would represent civil servants against the people's elected represent 193 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,679 that this was a noxious idea and a recipe for disaster, 194 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:09,200 and he opposed public sector unions for you know, throughout 195 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:14,799 his time. But unfortunately, after FDR was no longer president, 196 00:13:15,399 --> 00:13:18,240 they you know, the federal government changed the rules and 197 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,799 public sector unions were allowed. Public sector unions are one 198 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,240 of the major reasons why the deep state exists, and 199 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,159 one of the major reforms that I recommend is that 200 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,159 Congress get rid of public sector unions in the federal 201 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:37,879 government because they are essentially the shield behind which the 202 00:13:37,919 --> 00:13:41,720 deep state can act. With these public sector unions, they 203 00:13:41,759 --> 00:13:47,799 essentially claim they make public servants into public serpents and 204 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,679 enable bad actors to keep their jobs despite what they're doing. 205 00:13:58,039 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 3: Buster Poindexter is back because inflation is hot, Hot Hot. 206 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,440 Watched Out on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. Every 207 00:14:04,519 --> 00:14:07,240 day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and the 208 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:10,919 economy and how it affects your wallet. January, inflation numbers 209 00:14:10,919 --> 00:14:13,759 have continued to climb, and the media has already found 210 00:14:13,799 --> 00:14:16,039 a way to pin this on Trump. We've done this 211 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,000 to ourselves for a long period of time because inflation 212 00:14:19,159 --> 00:14:21,759 is not going away. Whether it's happening in DC or 213 00:14:21,759 --> 00:14:23,720 down on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially. 214 00:14:23,799 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: Be informed. 215 00:14:24,399 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: Check out the Watch Dot on Wall Street podcast with 216 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,559 Chris Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 217 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, and now you have the forty seventh president in 218 00:14:35,879 --> 00:14:39,799 his second non consecutive term, who has learned a lot 219 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,000 about his first term and certainly was taking a lot 220 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:48,519 of notes during the forty sixth president's term in office. 221 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:53,360 And so he's trying to do what a lot of 222 00:14:53,399 --> 00:14:57,600 Americans have been screaming about for a long time, shrink 223 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,600 the size of this massive government. This woke to PUS 224 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,720 and now of course he's getting the resistance movement that 225 00:15:06,039 --> 00:15:11,519 is a weakened national corporate media weakened by the fact, 226 00:15:11,679 --> 00:15:14,639 by the very virtue that Donald Trump is president of 227 00:15:14,679 --> 00:15:17,759 the United States. They really thought they had his number, 228 00:15:17,759 --> 00:15:22,240 of course, and what Americans and the press learned ultimately 229 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,399 is they don't have the power that they think they do. 230 00:15:25,159 --> 00:15:28,559 Now they're still making a lot of noise, and then 231 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,480 you have these groups behind it. It's interesting to me 232 00:15:32,639 --> 00:15:37,080 Tyler and I think as we get into the people 233 00:15:37,399 --> 00:15:42,320 behind the power, we're seeing that play out by the 234 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,360 people who are filing the lawsuits. Are we not in 235 00:15:45,399 --> 00:15:47,159 the opening days of the Trump presidency. 236 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,039 Speaker 2: Oh yes, So one of the main things that's happening 237 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,080 so right now, the Woe to PUS is gearing up 238 00:15:55,200 --> 00:16:01,200 to frustrate Trump's agenda from outside. Already seen the American 239 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,639 Civil Liberties Union file a lawsuit to prevent mass deportations. 240 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,120 We're seeing the Human Rights Campaign prepping to file a 241 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,759 lawsuit to stop what they call Trump's trans military ban, 242 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:18,720 which really is just applying basic common sense about biology 243 00:16:19,039 --> 00:16:22,759 to the to the federal government and to the military 244 00:16:22,799 --> 00:16:26,919 as an extension. And we're seeing other organizations, you know, 245 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,759 Catholic charities, which is part of what I call the 246 00:16:30,759 --> 00:16:36,679 immigration industrial complex. They receive you know, just gobsmacking amounts 247 00:16:36,679 --> 00:16:42,679 of money to essentially to move illegal aliens across the country, 248 00:16:43,039 --> 00:16:46,399 to house them, to move them into other places. And 249 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,799 they're one of the reasons why we have why the 250 00:16:50,919 --> 00:16:56,799 border crisis became a national crisis. So you know, they're 251 00:16:56,919 --> 00:17:01,279 they're gearing up, they're training people, they're trying to tell 252 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:06,160 illegal aliens how to avoid federal law enforcement. And meanwhile 253 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:11,480 you even have the National Education Association, America's largest teachers union, 254 00:17:12,559 --> 00:17:18,119 training teachers on how to help illegal aliens avoid federal 255 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:23,000 law enforcement. As Trump tries to bring sanity to this 256 00:17:23,279 --> 00:17:29,920 utter border crisis that Biden presided over. So it's one 257 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,119 thing after another. You start to see these tentacles that 258 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,119 were inside the government now they're fighting from outside the 259 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:43,759 government to prevent Trump from restoring, really restoring America. 260 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting to me the different players involved, and 261 00:17:48,839 --> 00:17:53,680 you see them now, you know, being jettisoned obviously on 262 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:59,559 day one from the White House, from the administration. I 263 00:17:59,599 --> 00:18:05,880 think back about one of Biden's executive orders is illustrative 264 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,960 what we're talking about here, and that was what we 265 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:13,519 at the Federalist and you at the Daily Signal referred 266 00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:15,240 to and a lot a lot of folks referred to 267 00:18:15,279 --> 00:18:19,680 as biden Bucks. It was Executive Order fourteen zero one nine, 268 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,920 and you were able to get your hands on some 269 00:18:25,079 --> 00:18:30,119 very important documents. I know that the Foundation for Government 270 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,039 Accountability as well, we at the Federalists were able to 271 00:18:33,079 --> 00:18:37,400 get a hold of some very important documents that exposed 272 00:18:38,079 --> 00:18:42,119 these left wing groups that were setting up, in this 273 00:18:42,319 --> 00:18:46,799 case an executive order, a FIAT that turned the federal 274 00:18:46,839 --> 00:18:51,359 government into a get out the vote machine for Democrats. 275 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,880 I mean, it was just absolutely amazing. And it was 276 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,880 called biden Bucks because it played off of zucker Bucks, 277 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,680 the success that we saw with Zuckerbucks in the two 278 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:04,799 thousand and twenty elections. But what about all of those 279 00:19:04,839 --> 00:19:09,279 groups that add not only the ear of the president, 280 00:19:09,759 --> 00:19:11,599 they were inside the Oval office. 281 00:19:12,519 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, so when I was going through the book, 282 00:19:15,279 --> 00:19:19,359 and biden Bucks forms a big part of chapter nine 283 00:19:21,319 --> 00:19:24,119 of my book. And thankfully, you know, I owe a 284 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,960 lot to the federal or to the to the FGA, 285 00:19:27,079 --> 00:19:31,079 the Foundation for Government Accountability as you were saying, and 286 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,400 to our own reporter Fred Lucas, and thank you to 287 00:19:34,599 --> 00:19:39,519 the Federalist the Federalists for covering this so well. I 288 00:19:39,599 --> 00:19:43,000 kind of take a bird's eye view of many of 289 00:19:43,039 --> 00:19:48,119 these issues. So on that one, that one's particularly revealing. 290 00:19:48,559 --> 00:19:51,440 Most of the groups that I describe as being part 291 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,799 of the Woke to pus had multiple White House meetings, 292 00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:00,400 sometimes directly with President Biden, occasionally one on one. But 293 00:20:00,519 --> 00:20:03,279 you know, I go through a list, it's like, it 294 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,559 has to have funding from the left stark money network, 295 00:20:06,839 --> 00:20:09,799 it has to have White House meetings, and it has 296 00:20:09,839 --> 00:20:15,200 to have some clear connection to federal policy somehow that 297 00:20:15,279 --> 00:20:21,119 the organization has, and whether that's staffing the executive agencies, 298 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,519 which many of these groups have, you know, their staffers 299 00:20:24,519 --> 00:20:28,400 have gone into the administration and then made rules or 300 00:20:28,799 --> 00:20:31,240 in the case of Demos, which is the group you're 301 00:20:31,279 --> 00:20:33,720 talking about there, they're at the center of the Biden 302 00:20:33,799 --> 00:20:39,119 Bucks scandal. You know, the story really is gobsmacking. You know, 303 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:45,519 you have the Democrats win this extremely tight majority in 304 00:20:45,559 --> 00:20:48,400 the House and Senate, and they win the presidency, right, 305 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:53,799 and so Biden. The first early days of Biden's administration, 306 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,079 the House votes on HR one. They made it HR one. 307 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,599 It was the FORO the People Act. It was big 308 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:06,400 pro democracy, like we are restoring democracy after January sixth, 309 00:21:06,759 --> 00:21:09,640 and it passes the House, but goes nowhere in the Senate. 310 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,720 One of the provisions of HR one was to turn 311 00:21:14,039 --> 00:21:19,039 federal agencies into voter registration arms, which you know, as 312 00:21:19,079 --> 00:21:21,559 you and I probably know, and as anybody who's ever 313 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:26,440 tried to volunteer with a political campaign knows, voter registration 314 00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:31,240 is the first step in any successful political campaign. You 315 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,559 identify the people who are likely to vote for your candidate, 316 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,920 you go out and make sure they're registered, and then 317 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,359 you go out and make sure that they vote. That's 318 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,799 basic on the ground campaign one oh one. So by 319 00:21:43,839 --> 00:21:49,240 turning federal agencies into voter registration arms, that would effectively, 320 00:21:49,759 --> 00:21:53,000 you know, you effectively have this pipeline where people who 321 00:21:53,039 --> 00:21:58,000 are receiving federal benefits ostensibly want those federal benefits to 322 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,920 continue and are more likely to vote for the part 323 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,200 that focuses on handouts and federal benefits, which is maybe 324 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,240 the Democrats. So you can see the potential for abuse here. 325 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:14,079 That was just a provision in HR one. So demost 326 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,240 this group where President where a certain Illinois state senator 327 00:22:18,279 --> 00:22:21,200 by the name of Barack Obama was on the founding board. 328 00:22:22,279 --> 00:22:26,000 Demos writes an executive order saying, you know, implementing this 329 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,200 portion of HR one. Biden sees that HR one is 330 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,960 going nowhere in the Senate, so he decides, in lieu 331 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,200 of actually, you know, doing what the constitution says you're 332 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,720 supposed to do to change the law, he writes an 333 00:22:38,759 --> 00:22:43,960 executive order implementing part of HR one anyway, and that 334 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,519 particular part of HR one. His executive order is essentially 335 00:22:47,599 --> 00:22:51,440 copy and paste from the demost executive order. So, you know, 336 00:22:51,519 --> 00:22:53,880 Biden signs this order and then. 337 00:22:54,039 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: That though, wasn't it one stop shopping? Yeah? 338 00:22:58,759 --> 00:23:01,319 Speaker 2: Oh, it gets worse though, of course, as you well 339 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,880 know because you know the story. But the Biden administration 340 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,519 then goes to demos and brings demos in to advise 341 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,680 each federal agency about how to implement this order. And 342 00:23:12,759 --> 00:23:18,000 so it's just a gobsmacking amount of influence this organization has. 343 00:23:18,559 --> 00:23:21,920 And one of the big points in the Biden Bucks 344 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,559 scandal that stands out to me and that you know, 345 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,079 really tipped me off that I was really onto something 346 00:23:28,079 --> 00:23:30,240 with the idea of the woke to us is that 347 00:23:30,279 --> 00:23:35,880 they had a listening session about this policy, and it 348 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,599 was the White House, it was a few federal agencies 349 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,839 like the DJ and then it was most of the 350 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,839 groups in my book, Like if you look at the 351 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,960 list of those who are attending, it's like, uh, interesting overlap. Here. 352 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,440 You have the Southern Poverty Law Center, you have the 353 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,319 Open Society Policy Center, which is part of the Open 354 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,799 Society Foundations that Alex Soros, George Soros's son now runs. 355 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,839 You have you know, I think it was like the 356 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,160 ACLU and probably the Center for American Progress. I have 357 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,960 to check, but it was it was almost like checklist 358 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,240 of all the groups that I had seen other evidences 359 00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:17,200 for them being involved. And of course the Heritage Foundation's 360 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,640 oversight project went through all the affiliations of every person 361 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,480 who attended this meeting and guess what they were. There 362 00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:28,240 was not a single Republican. They were all Democratic except 363 00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:30,960 for one person, and that one person was a Green 364 00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:31,759 Party member. 365 00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: Well that's close to conservative. Is that's the Democrat Party 366 00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:40,720 is going to get these days? As you well know. 367 00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:44,000 I mean, at least you have Jill Stein warring against 368 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,200 the Democrat Party to get on the ballot. But no, 369 00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:51,839 it is fascinating to be in demos. Man. That's just 370 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,880 so close to Demons. It's hard to believe. Our guest 371 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,640 today is Tyler O'Neil, senior editor at The Daily Signal 372 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,079 and author of the new book The Woke to Pus 373 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,200 the dark money cabal manipulating the Federal Government. You had 374 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,599 mentioned earlier in our conversation about just the vast numbers 375 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:17,319 of agencies that are never held to account. Not only 376 00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:20,200 are they never held to account, not only do they 377 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:25,119 have this vast power that is unseen until it affects 378 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,759 the average American, and it does every day you have, 379 00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:32,400 you have no real accounting of it. I wrote a 380 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,200 piece recently, and it was really about the Dirty Dozen. 381 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,960 I noted a dozen of these most egregious grants that 382 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,759 the left, the Democrats, the accomplice media are fighting against 383 00:25:44,759 --> 00:25:48,480 the Trump administration because the Trump administration wants to stop 384 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,880 you know, these these insane DEI and you know, and 385 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,880 other grants by the people that you know we're talking 386 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,359 about that you're talking about in your book, but open 387 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:06,759 the books. Tracks in a new report, seventy five total 388 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,200 of four hundred and forty one federal agencies listed in 389 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:16,680 the Federal Register are defunct, many for decades. They don't 390 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:22,599 even really exist. Yet they exist, they're perpetuated, and they 391 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,119 go on and on and on. I mean, this is 392 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:30,839 the essence of government dysfunction. But there is some reason 393 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,759 to this particular rhyme, is there not? 394 00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:38,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, there's definitely. So I have to look at 395 00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:43,279 that report that is. That is unfortunately news to me, 396 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,160 but I will go through it because that's a really 397 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:52,920 great finding, I think, and I think DOJE is a 398 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,440 good example of using some of these now mostly defunct. 399 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,519 I'm not sure if the US Digital Service is on 400 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,359 their list. Yes, I had never heard the US Digital Service. 401 00:27:05,599 --> 00:27:07,519 Speaker 1: Oh it is, yes. 402 00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:08,559 Speaker 2: Oh. 403 00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: And in fact, they make the argument that that gets 404 00:27:12,279 --> 00:27:17,039 around you know, the sort of the legal the lawfair 405 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,039 that's going on to try by the left to try 406 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:23,240 to shut down DOGE, which is, you know, the Elon 407 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:28,599 Musk entity in the federal government, if you will, that's 408 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,880 going to try to bring some accountability and common sense 409 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:37,440 to government and make serious cuts to the federal government. 410 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,200 But yeah, that's they note here that that was that 411 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,920 that operation was created by none other than Barack Obama, 412 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,640 and it was to deal with the mess that was 413 00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:53,519 And I think a lot of people would argue is 414 00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:59,440 Obama care? And so there's precedent for what the Trump 415 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,880 administry is doing with DOGE of course. 416 00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no. And I think it is funny that 417 00:28:05,599 --> 00:28:08,400 I was. I was right on the money there because 418 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,519 I immediately thought, oh, well, you talk about these defunct agencies. 419 00:28:14,079 --> 00:28:18,839 The way that Trump Trump's Executive Order takes the US 420 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,440 Digital Service and replaces it with the US DOGE Service 421 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,000 is a very clear step in the right direction. And 422 00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:27,519 I figured that he would only be doing that if 423 00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:31,880 the US Digital Service essentially had very little role anymore. 424 00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:35,599 But that's the problem is you get you get Congress 425 00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:40,240 writing these bills. And this was the brilliance of FDR 426 00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:44,599 and to some degree Woodrow Wilson when he had War Socialism. 427 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,119 It was brilliant, but it was also really horrible for 428 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,640 the country. They would write these laws that say, oh, Congress, 429 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,240 the American people want to have clean air. Therefore, we're 430 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,839 going to establish an agency whose job it is to 431 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,160 give the American people clean air, and Congress is going 432 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,279 to shift its responsibility to the agency, so the agency 433 00:29:05,319 --> 00:29:08,400 gets all the credit and all the blame, and then 434 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,720 Congress is off scot free. Well, what happens if Congress 435 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,799 creates an agency and then that agency essentially doesn't need 436 00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:22,079 to exist anymore. Rarely does Congress ever actually destroy an agency. 437 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,799 Rarely does Congress return to the board and say, look, 438 00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:29,160 we don't need these agencies, let's get rid of them. 439 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,359 And you can have interesting separation of powers arguments. But 440 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,200 I think at the end of the day, so long 441 00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:40,160 as the president, who is the head of the executive branch, 442 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,559 has good reason to put these agencies together, to sunset 443 00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:49,839 some of these agencies, to really restructure things, he should 444 00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:51,880 be able to do so because he is the head 445 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,680 of the executive branch, and unless he is clearly violating 446 00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:59,920 written laws from Congress, then it should be allowed for 447 00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,319 for him to restructure things. Because right now we have 448 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:09,200 a byzantine arcane system where so many agencies have make 449 00:30:09,319 --> 00:30:15,359 so many rules that are duplicative, they're unnecessary, they're also 450 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,559 ideologically driven, and we need to just trim government. And 451 00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:25,359 this is it's funny. There's a big debate among conservatives now, 452 00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:30,000 especially among the MAGA movement, how much do we trim 453 00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:33,079 government or how much do we use government to push 454 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:39,359 conservative priorities. And I think in the main the answer 455 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,519 to both of those questions is yes, but only in 456 00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:48,519 terms of pushing conservative priorities that will actually restore sanity 457 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:50,599 to the American people, like the way that Trump is 458 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,359 bringing back the basic biological fact that they're two sexist 459 00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:59,079 and I guess that would be considered pushing a conservative idea, 460 00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:03,400 but in reality, that's an idea that most Americans agree 461 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,400 with and that it is grounded in common sense. And 462 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,440 even you know, even many liberals have to be like, oh, yeah, 463 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,680 well that's true. 464 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: So it's science at the end of the day, which 465 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,279 should absolutely delight the left. It's following the science, which 466 00:31:19,319 --> 00:31:22,359 is what they told us over and over again during 467 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,039 the pandemic. Yes, what a concept, indeed, And this is 468 00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:31,279 interesting to me too, because you know, the pushback that 469 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:36,880 is going on to preserve the administrative state and the 470 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,200 deep state, which is a connected but different topic altogether. 471 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:48,000 But Congress, as you noted, is culpable for this. Republicans 472 00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:53,359 and Democrats alike. They have abdicated, absolutely abdicated the authority 473 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,200 the powers that were given to them as the first 474 00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:04,279 branch of government in the name of well, quite frankly 475 00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:08,559 politics in so many cases because they don't want to 476 00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:12,440 be held accountable and so just make some nameless bureaucrat 477 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,400 accountable for it. 478 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: Yes, well, and it's very difficult because the incentive structure 479 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:26,400 in Congress these agencies, they really were a brilliant dodge. 480 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,960 Because now it's hard for Congress to reassert its authority. 481 00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:33,799 There are things like the Rains Act, which would essentially 482 00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:36,920 do it. This is a long standing bill that would 483 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,960 say in order for a federal agency to issue a 484 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,400 regulation that has a certain huge impact on the economy, 485 00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:48,559 it would have to pass both houses of Congress and 486 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,559 be signed by the President as if it were a law. 487 00:32:51,599 --> 00:32:54,519 This would be a huge step in the right direction 488 00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:59,960 to restoring Congress and the President's authority over the administrative agency. 489 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:07,720 But it requires Congress to work together to achieve something 490 00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:11,880 like that, And of course Congress is riven by divisions 491 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,599 because the American people are riven by divisions, and Trump 492 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,880 has a very clear mandate on a lot of important issues. 493 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:25,480 But Congress is really tight Republican majority right now, and 494 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,119 it's going to be hard to get the legislation that 495 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,359 Trump really needs to combat the deep state. I mean, 496 00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:38,240 it's definitely an uphill battle. But yeah, I don't know, 497 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,279 like I want to see the Rains Act past yesterday, 498 00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:46,799 past ten years ago, because this is a huge step 499 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:52,200 toward restoring the constitutional separation of powers and just sanity 500 00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:56,319 in our government. If the people's elected representatives were held 501 00:33:56,319 --> 00:33:59,160 accountable for all the rules that we have to live by, 502 00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:03,240 would be a different country. And I think a lot 503 00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:09,119 of these these Kakammi schemes, a lot of the climate initiatives, 504 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,039 a lot of the you know, most of the things 505 00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:15,039 I wrote about in my book, would not exist because 506 00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:19,199 the American people would be more muscularly involved in the 507 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,239 actual operations of their government. 508 00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: Well, the laboratories of the States have done exactly that, 509 00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:27,400 the Rains Act. I remember the battle over that and 510 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:33,920 Wisconsin for instance, and elsewhere that has People just don't 511 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:39,320 realize how significant that legislation, that law to pass it 512 00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:43,599 was and what it has meant, you know, in freedom 513 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,920 from Regulation, the tyranny of regulation for small business owners 514 00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:53,519 and individuals alike. You layout, and you've talked a little 515 00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:58,840 bit about some solutions to you know, battling this eight 516 00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:05,719 tentacled mul iitenticled monster. What needs to occur, because as 517 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,280 we've seen, we have a president of the United States 518 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,280 now who is not afraid to take on this monster. 519 00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:16,360 But I guess this is a two part question. What 520 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,199 does this administration need to do? You mentioned what Congress 521 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,880 needs to do, can't. Will the American people sustain the 522 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,719 President of the United States in doing what has needed 523 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,519 to be done for a very long time? 524 00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that that is the million dollar question. I think. 525 00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:41,039 Speaker 1: I think that the trillion dollar question, as we've noted. 526 00:35:41,199 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's true. I think the American people will 527 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,920 sustain it. Luckily Trump. You know, the fact that Trump 528 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,039 does not have to run for office again, free him up. 529 00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:58,079 He has been very muscular. You know, we've seen polling 530 00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:02,079 that shows that Americans support what Trump has been doing 531 00:36:02,199 --> 00:36:07,280 these past two weeks. And I think so long as 532 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,320 you know, he ran specifically on these issues, and he 533 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:16,159 is working to fulfill his promises, so he has a 534 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,480 very strong mandate here. I think we have to constantly 535 00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:24,639 remind the American people, you know, we lived through COVID, 536 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,599 and we want to blot the memory of COVID out 537 00:36:27,639 --> 00:36:30,880 of our minds. But I think that's a really bad 538 00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:34,360 mistake because COVID is one of the like there are 539 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:39,679 two scandals to me that just underline the abuses of 540 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,960 the elites, particularly the health elites. One of them is 541 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,719 COVID and the other one is the transgender insanity, because 542 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,480 the idea that your public health officials would blatantly lie 543 00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:56,559 to you and then say, oh, yeah, it's fine, like 544 00:36:56,559 --> 00:37:00,199 like they said, they said, don't buy masks, right and 545 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,559 then because they said masks aren't effective in fighting the 546 00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:06,079 spread of COVID, and then suddenly they said, oh, buy 547 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,360 masks because they're effective in order to just fight the 548 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,000 spread of COVID. And you realize they later say the 549 00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:17,519 reason why they lied to you about the effectiveness of masks, 550 00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:20,960 and they say, oh, it was because we used a 551 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,639 white lie to make sure that doctors could still get masks. 552 00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:29,519 It's like the level of contempt that these people have 553 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,880 for the American people. They don't trust us with our 554 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,400 own lives. And that has to be underlined again and 555 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,119 again and again. And that's why you know, I described 556 00:37:43,159 --> 00:37:48,400 myself as an unlikely populist because I like to trust institutions. 557 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,559 I want to trust authority. I want our medical system 558 00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:54,519 to be reliable. I want our scientists to be grounded 559 00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:59,320 in science. And nothing infuriates me more than to hear 560 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,840 somebody say that it is the best science that a 561 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,440 male who thinks of himself as a woman is really 562 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,639 a woman and needs to be granted access to everything, 563 00:38:11,159 --> 00:38:14,559 and surprise, surprise, when you have policies based on that, 564 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,719 you end up with male rapists in women's prisons raping 565 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,239 the women. 566 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: Indeed. Yeah, and not only do you have those kinds 567 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:30,360 of policies, you have the people living that madness directing 568 00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:33,519 those policies, as the case in the Health and Human 569 00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:39,000 Services Department. So, I mean, you raise a good point. 570 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,119 The final question for you, I appreciate your time today, 571 00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:47,920 but the trust issue, I mean, that's one of the 572 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:55,679 deep seated problems of what you're writing about, is that, sure, 573 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,840 the left is all you know, you make it simple. 574 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,840 It's all for the power control, that's what it is. 575 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,599 But ultimately, as you noted with the COVID situation, it 576 00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:10,800 was a matter of and it's just part and parcel 577 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,760 to a larger theme that the leftist who control the 578 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,280 levers of power, and they still do greatly in America today, 579 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:25,280 they don't trust Americans. And what we've been able to discover, 580 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,719 thanks to some excellent investigative reporting from conservative news outlets 581 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,880 in this country, is that Americans have no reason to 582 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,239 trust their government. And that's a sad place to be 583 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,880 in America, isn't it. 584 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,039 Speaker 2: It's a very no I mean, And that's it's funny 585 00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:47,360 because it's one of the reasons why we see Trump succeeding. 586 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,320 It's one of the reasons why the American people are 587 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,480 willing to really shake things up. It's because they the 588 00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:58,480 institutions have lost the trust of the American people. But 589 00:39:58,559 --> 00:40:00,880 they need to gain it back, and we have to 590 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,599 get it back. That's that's the main goal of this administration. 591 00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:09,280 I think the American people have a lot of hope 592 00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:12,199 and trust that Trump is going to do good things, 593 00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:16,039 but he has to. You know, it's almost like the 594 00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:19,239 worst thing Trump can do is not shake things up enough, 595 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:25,599 because he won this mandate on the promise of shaking 596 00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:28,480 things up, on the promise of correcting all the corruption 597 00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:31,800 that we saw over the past four years, the corruption 598 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,960 that we saw against Trump himself in his first administration. 599 00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:40,119 And you know, this is peeling back the onion and 600 00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:45,400 setting things to rights, and it's a hard process. It's 601 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,000 a long slog, and the worst thing he could do 602 00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:53,599 is do nothing. And what we're seeing here is him 603 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:59,760 acting as fast as he can and really working. It 604 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,119 is been astonishing, Like I can barely believe what has 605 00:41:04,159 --> 00:41:07,639 been coming out of this White House because I've been 606 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,079 I've trained myself to be cynical, to know that, you know, 607 00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:14,360 the elites are pulling the strings, to assume that things 608 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,639 are just going to keep getting worse, that the Supreme 609 00:41:17,679 --> 00:41:22,480 Court won't be returning power to the States on things 610 00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:25,079 like abortion, you know, like, there are so many there's 611 00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:29,519 so many things where I'm too cynical. And this past 612 00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:33,480 week and a half has been so good I can 613 00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:36,760 barely trust it. And of course there's a gearing up 614 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,639 opposition against it, so you know, to some degree, I'm 615 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,800 right to still be a little cynical. But Trump has 616 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:51,559 been so aggressive in championing common sense that I am 617 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,199 you know, it has it has been one of the 618 00:41:55,199 --> 00:42:03,119 most inspiring weeks in my life. And he just needs 619 00:42:03,159 --> 00:42:05,320 to keep going. He has to keep you know. And 620 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,599 the good news is Trump is not a Mitt Romney. 621 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,320 Trump is not a George W. Bush. He doesn't waffle, 622 00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:18,079 he doesn't hold back. He actually fights. And to see 623 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:25,920 a president with the muscular intensity, the you know, with 624 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,880 with the strength that he has, I'm I'm very confident. 625 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,480 I mean, I don't know if he'll achieve everything he 626 00:42:32,559 --> 00:42:37,760 needs to do, but he's already exceeded my expectations, and 627 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,639 I just have to hope. 628 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 1: I think a lot of Americans agree with that that, 629 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,800 you know, they they expected some big things, but Trump 630 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,800 is definitely delivering on big things. The left has accused 631 00:42:54,199 --> 00:42:57,679 Donald Trump of all manner of things for many years now, 632 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,760 but they cannot accuse him of not shaking things up. 633 00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:05,239 And that is exactly what it is going to take 634 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,280 to take on the Woke Topus. A fascinating book, a 635 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,840 fascinating look back and look forward as well. I appreciate 636 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:14,559 your time today. 637 00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for having me. 638 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,519 Speaker 1: Absolutely thanks to my guest today, Tyler O'Neill, senior editor 639 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,280 at The Daily Signal and author of the new book 640 00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:28,039 The Woke Topus, The Dark Money Cabal Manipulating the Federal Government. 641 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,159 You've been listening to another edition of The Federalist Radio Hour. 642 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,599 I'm Matt Kittle, Senior elections correspondent at The Federalist. We'll 643 00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:38,920 be back soon with more. Until then, stay lovers of 644 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:55,679 freedom and anxious for the fray