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Ali warred back with another episode of Ologies. 29 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:23.480 Oh here we are, We are here. It is March 30 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:27.599 twenty twenty, and it's a wacky time. This is a 31 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:31.040 wacky time, but let's keep on keeping on, including asking 32 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:34.000 some smart people some really stupid questions about stuff that 33 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:36.799 matters a lot to us. Okay, this one, woo, it's 34 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:39.519 a two for. Only once before in the history of 35 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:43.000 ologies have I sat down with two doctors at once, 36 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:46.280 partly because it's a nightmare to edit, but it's worth it. 37 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:49.480 And this one it's a real triple a all about animals. 38 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:51.239 So if you've ever petted a dog in the head, 39 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:54.920 or if you've ever fawned over a bunny or respectfully 40 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:57.319 admired a llama from Afar. 41 00:01:57.200 --> 00:01:57.799 Get ready. 42 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:00.359 Also, I hope you listened to last week's episod on 43 00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:03.519 virology to help you kind of wrap your head around 44 00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:06.760 why so many people on planet Earth are in pajamas 45 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:09.759 on Wednesday afternoons. We're doing it, and we're doing it 46 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:12.479 together by being a part Now. 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Ologies satisfies, Sleepy John, Thank you, Sleepy John. 69 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:16.680 I'm glad that you're awake to listen to this. Okay, 70 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:21.120 veterinary biology, let's get into it. So veterinary comes from 71 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:24.439 a Latin word meaning a cow or an ox, and 72 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:28.199 biology is the study of life. So veterinary biology is 73 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:32.039 the medical study of kept animals. I have wanted to 74 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:35.520 do this episode for so long, since so many ologists 75 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:38.759 originally set their sights on a career in VetMed and 76 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:40.120 that is an insider term. 77 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:41.520 It means veterinary. 78 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:43.680 Medicine, and so it's super tough field. And I was 79 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:46.800 so excited to hear that two of the greats were 80 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:49.199 in Los Angeles for just a few days. They were 81 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:51.719 willing to let me pepper them with questions, so I 82 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:54.639 drove across town to Beverly Hills in traffic. 83 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:55.800 It was worth it. 84 00:03:55.919 --> 00:03:58.439 They were posted up at the Swanky as Hell for 85 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:01.479 seasons while on a press tour for their brand new 86 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:05.800 national geographic series Critter Fixers Country Vets. Put it in 87 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:09.479 your DVRs. Watch it it's amazing. They were both in suits. 88 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:11.319 They were looking quite sharp at the end of a 89 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:15.639 long press day, bringing a porcupine and an armadillo on 90 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:18.720 entertainment tonight. But they squeezed me in and we settled 91 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:21.160 onto a couch and some chairs, and I shoved my 92 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:24.759 mics in their faces and now audio note. My audio 93 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:27.399 was being captured by a separate mic that I never use, 94 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:30.480 and it turns out it was not ideal. So Jarrett 95 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:32.959 and Stephen worked a ton behind the scenes this week 96 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:33.879 to help fix it. 97 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:35.680 It might be a little different than. 98 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:38.399 You're used to if this is your very first Ologies 99 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:41.040 episode you've ever listened to, I promise audio quality is 100 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:41.920 usually top notch. 101 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:45.199 I normally don't record to people at once, and myself 102 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:45.920 little bit. 103 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:47.839 Of a tech diff but this episode is one hundred 104 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:50.160 percent worth it because of bothologists, and they were kind 105 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:52.519 enough to tell me about their friendship and their life 106 00:04:52.519 --> 00:04:55.519 in Central Georgia, dealing with all manner of animals, their 107 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:59.079 vet practice, how they learn and retain so much about 108 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:02.720 so many species. Things they wish all animal owners knew. 109 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:07.920 Weird things animals have eaten, hairballs, kidney issues, grain free diets, 110 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:10.879 chunky monkeys, How to keep your pets healthy for as 111 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:14.519 long as possible, when to let go, the emotional side 112 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:18.839 of veterinary medicine, some awesome advice for me personally, plus 113 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:21.680 livestock mysteries and more. So scrub in and get ready 114 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:26.240 to fawn over two real life critter fixers and veterinary biologists, 115 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:30.040 doctor Vernard Hodges and doctor Terrence Ferguson. 116 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:54.160 Hodges, Terrence Ferguson. Yes, yes, doctor Vernon Hodges. 117 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:55.079 And doctor Terrence Ferguson. 118 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:56.519 How long have they been doctors? 119 00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:59.360 So I have been in doctor for a grand total 120 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:02.279 of so I've been a doctor much longer. So I've 121 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:04.519 been about for twenty three years. 122 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:06.319 And I've been a doctor for twenty two years. 123 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:10.279 Oh god, so one of your pro yes, yes, exactly. 124 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:13.199 Do you know each other going through bad school? How 125 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:13.639 did you meet? 126 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:15.120 So we met in college. 127 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:18.040 Yeah, we met in undergrad So we've known each other 128 00:06:18.199 --> 00:06:20.680 almost thirty years now, give or take a year. Yeah, 129 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:23.560 And I was a veterinari science major and he was 130 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:26.600 a biology major. But I took classes in biologies, so 131 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:28.480 that's how he and I met in classes there. 132 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:30.759 Unfortunately, he became a friend because he was a lot 133 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:33.000 smarter than me, and he's a goodie two shoes. 134 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:39.160 And yeah, right, so you've been practicing doctors for twenty too, 135 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:40.519 we'll say twenty two and a half years. 136 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:44.600 Sure to average it here, Sure, and how long have 137 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:46.959 you been working together as you do? 138 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:50.120 Oh? For the for my entire twenty two years? Yeah, 139 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:51.519 we've been working together. 140 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:53.279 Everything year. 141 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:55.920 Yeah, he graduated a year ahead of me. He worked 142 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:59.319 at a local venair hospital. When I graduated, I worked 143 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:01.199 at the same home hospital. So we worked together a 144 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:04.560 year at another van near hospital. After a year, we 145 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:06.879 decided it we want to open our own practice right, 146 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:08.360 amazing for sure. 147 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:11.560 And by the way, doctor Ernard Hodges has an edgy, 148 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:15.839 hip asymmetrical haircut. It's almost like a half mohawk. And 149 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:17.839 he's wearing a dark button up shirt and a blue 150 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:20.720 sport coote. And doctor Ferguson has a lower voice, and 151 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:23.279 he's wearing a T shirt with the red Critter Fixer 152 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:27.040 logo underneath a plaid gray blazer and his head is 153 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:30.319 neatly shaved to a perfect shine. Now. They both grew 154 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:33.360 up in Georgia, got their bachelors from Fort Valley State 155 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:37.519 University and their doctorates and veterinary medicine from Tuskegee University 156 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:42.000 in Alabama. Their Southern accents amazing. They worked elsewhere for 157 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:45.399 about a year before they teamed up and started Critter Fixers, 158 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:49.199 their own practice together in rural Central Georgia, south of Atlanta. 159 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:51.920 But like we hear from a lot of ologists, sometimes 160 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:54.839 the path is linear, sometimes it has a few twists. 161 00:07:55.240 --> 00:07:59.160 What was it about animals or about veterinary science that 162 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:01.560 you love what you individually to this path? 163 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:04.439 So I'm a big fish guy. I've always liked fish. 164 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:07.839 I don't know, I just always had a fascination with fish, 165 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:09.639 you know, I tease them all the time. I wanted 166 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:11.800 to be the first, like black Jock Cousto. I wanted 167 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:12.800 to be like this fish guy. 168 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:14.839 I love fish. 169 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:18.279 I was one of these people that learned by doing 170 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:23.120 My grades were okay to make myself competitive with vendoring school. 171 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:26.160 I ended up working for the Agency for International Development, 172 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:28.720 and what we did was develop a fish project. So 173 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:34.279 at nineteen I went over to Nepal and we raised 174 00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:37.519 fishing cages because they were looking for a cheap protein source. 175 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:40.879 So what we did was carpeat fighter plane, so we 176 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:43.399 kind of would put the cages at different depths see 177 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:45.360 where the fighter plant then grows, and kind of we 178 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:47.639 were able to tell them when to put out, where 179 00:08:47.639 --> 00:08:50.200 to put the cage, especially during months, soon times and everything. 180 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:53.840 So when I got to, you know, to the vendor school, 181 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:55.960 when I was thinking I could do fish and do 182 00:08:56.039 --> 00:09:00.840 these different things. My grades were okay, but nobody, you know, 183 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:03.200 all the people with age couldn't say that help feed 184 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:06.080 the village in the Paul. So that's how, you know, 185 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:07.759 I've always loved animals, so. 186 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:10.720 Other people may have had higher grades, but doctor Hodges 187 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:15.000 had life experience and hands on fish science. So went 188 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:18.159 in doubt, GTFO go work in the Paul for a while. 189 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:20.679 And that's that's kind of what what helped kind of 190 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:23.399 moved being you know, been ven there in president Now 191 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:26.000 we treat fish, you'll see fish on the show. We 192 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:28.879 treat all variety of animals. So that's how I got involved. 193 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:30.639 What about doctor Ferguson, I've. 194 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:32.799 Wanted to be a vendorian for a long time, since 195 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:34.879 I was probably eight years old. I was bidden by 196 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:38.720 the veterinary bug. Got a dog that was injured and 197 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:42.480 I nursed it back to health. So I thought, looking back, 198 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:44.679 it really wasn't hurt very bad, but I thought I 199 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:47.519 did something miraculous, and here I am. I want to 200 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:50.879 be a animal doctor and I've always wanted to be one. 201 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:51.240 It's fun. 202 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:53.159 I tell people that, you know, a lot of time 203 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:56.159 we talk about what we want to be when we're older, 204 00:09:56.720 --> 00:09:58.399 and but I can say that I want to be 205 00:09:58.440 --> 00:09:59.759 and you can look in the yearbook in the hands 206 00:09:59.799 --> 00:10:01.960 better know my name. So I'm kind of proud of 207 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:04.600 that though, you know, and God just blessed me to become. 208 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:06.720 But it did come a point, Like you said, he 209 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:09.519 did summer jobs, and I did a couple of summers 210 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:14.080 also with the US Fishing Wildlife Service and had an 211 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:18.399 opportunity working in Alaska one summer with Simon and Whooping Crane. 212 00:10:19.120 --> 00:10:24.120 But I reached a point where I became unsure. As 213 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:27.519 you know that the professional of vendair medicine is not 214 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:31.279 very diverse. And it was until I was a junior 215 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:34.240 in college that I saw the first black veterinarian or 216 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:36.279 a veterinarian that looked like me. So it was a 217 00:10:36.279 --> 00:10:38.200 point that I felt like, can I do this? I 218 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:40.840 don't see anybody that looks like me and that's doing it, 219 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:44.799 and I almost veered over to fishing wildlife because I 220 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:47.600 had we did it in the summer. I saw people 221 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:49.039 look like me, and I knew that was something I 222 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:51.600 could do. But I met a mentor when I was 223 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:54.039 a junior in college. Then he was a black veterinarian 224 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:56.759 and then encouraged me to stay on path, as that's 225 00:10:56.840 --> 00:10:57.559 what you want to do. 226 00:10:57.799 --> 00:11:00.240 Wow, And do you think that you guys also to 227 00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:02.120 keep encouraging each other, because. 228 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:06.039 Every day, every day, I mean in this profession, I 229 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:09.600 mean people kind of don't understand. Sometimes people think maybe 230 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:11.879 we just play with puppies, you know, and which we do. 231 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:14.000 I mean, that's a great part of it. But I 232 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:17.879 mean in a matter of seconds, we can go from unfortunately, 233 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:21.360 have to euthanize an animal relief suffering that's maybe fifteen 234 00:11:21.399 --> 00:11:24.919 years old. Leave, leave that room, wipe the tear out 235 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:27.679 of eyes, and a minute later we're in another room 236 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:29.120 with a new puppy and have to talk to the 237 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:31.759 owner about different things and how to raise his puppet. 238 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:34.279 So the emotions are up and down, and sometimes at 239 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:36.279 the end of the day, I mean, it pays when 240 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:37.960 you emotion, especially if you do that four or five 241 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:40.360 times in a day, you know, the roller coasters tough, 242 00:11:40.440 --> 00:11:42.720 So it's great to be able to talk to each 243 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:44.960 other and say, hey, man, it's gonna be all right, 244 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:46.600 Like man, I had a rough day, or he tells 245 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:48.960 me has a rough day, and they'll know you won't 246 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:51.519 be judged because this when you're framed for thirty plus years. 247 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:54.360 So doctor Ferguson makes the point that even though it's 248 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:57.240 been his dream job for years, it does not mean 249 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:00.279 that it is a breeze who knew, you know. 250 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:04.639 Being a veninarian, we see multiple species, so you do. 251 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:07.000 I may you know, I may get an animal land 252 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:10.440 that you know, we've only seen one animal that year, 253 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:12.159 that it may be a monkey, or it may be 254 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:16.159 something that's very strange or rare, and I may have 255 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:17.759 to give him a call and like, hey god, he 256 00:12:17.919 --> 00:12:21.000 do man, I have this monkey and yeah, you know, 257 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:22.639 I'm looking through the books and I don't see it. 258 00:12:23.399 --> 00:12:24.039 What do you think? 259 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:27.639 So it's great having him to be able to bounce 260 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:30.600 things off of because it's just like you said, he 261 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:33.320 understands because he's in the same shoes that I'm in. 262 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:36.840 So it's great having each other. We definitely, I know, 263 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:39.440 I definitely wouldn't be where I am if I'm saying. 264 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:43.279 But we also have also have a very playful competition too. 265 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:46.399 Will be like, hey dude, hey man, I want up you. 266 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:48.759 I mean we literally said I want up you today, 267 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:51.000 Like what you got? I was like, man, I had 268 00:12:51.039 --> 00:12:53.759 an African told today. I was like, man, it's they 269 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:56.240 weighed three pounds. Or he'll call me in he have 270 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:59.120 some case. You're like, man, I had a snake with pneumonia. 271 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:03.759 So we we definitely have a playful competition of stuff. 272 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:07.159 We say, when it comes to betary medicine, how do 273 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:10.120 you even prepare for that? Because you've got a remnant 274 00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:13.399 with four stomachs, You've got to toe the bracelet skin? 275 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:15.720 How do you where do you begin? 276 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:16.320 Cool? 277 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:18.720 You know a lot of people wonder you know. You 278 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:21.120 get out and you may practice large aneral medicine, or 279 00:13:21.480 --> 00:13:25.120 you may practice small animal medicine, or you may practice exotics. 280 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:27.440 We kind of do all of them. But when you're 281 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:32.600 in veterinary school, you don't specialize. So we have to 282 00:13:32.679 --> 00:13:35.799 learn about all the species. And when you you know, 283 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:37.679 once we come out, you know you kind of refine 284 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:40.200 in your skills. Are there times when you have to 285 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:41.960 go back to the book orcuse one. Of course there 286 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:43.759 are you know, there are a lot of species and 287 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:44.879 you don't see. 288 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:45.320 Them every day. 289 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:47.919 Doctor Hodges says that in the early days they'd have 290 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:52.120 to do dip tank X rays, wait for them to develop, 291 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:55.559 and then send a snail mail envelope with a question 292 00:13:55.919 --> 00:13:59.360 to a specialist, way for it to get there, way 293 00:13:59.399 --> 00:14:01.879 for the special to write something back, and snail mail back. 294 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:05.039 But now modern technology lets them get an X ray 295 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:06.799 in less than a minute, and they can get a 296 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:10.320 complete pathology or cardiology report from a specialist in like 297 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:12.480 half an hour. So this is good news for vets. 298 00:14:12.759 --> 00:14:15.639 It's better news for pet owners, which, by the way, 299 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:18.200 in America, according to a twenty nineteen study, there are 300 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:23.120 ninety four million pet cats in the US, ninety million dogs, 301 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:25.840 and hey guess what fish people one hundred and fifty 302 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:28.759 seven million fishes out there in your houses. So yes, 303 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:30.159 technology helps them too. 304 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:32.879 Even though we're in rural Georgia, we do have the 305 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:35.240 specialists that we can reach out to. The in modern 306 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:39.840 technology has definitely definitely had his play, I would say, 307 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:42.840 in our lifetime, right, which I mean, don't you think 308 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:45.919 we probably can keep an animal probably alive maybe two 309 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:47.600 four years longer. 310 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:51.159 Yeah, because of advancement, we can detect things a lot earlier. 311 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:54.240 We have chemistry panels of blood. We can run down 312 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:57.200 to take kidney problem a year or so before it 313 00:14:57.200 --> 00:15:00.360 happens that at one time we only or when the 314 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:03.639 animal came in it was sick, we ran blood, had kidney. 315 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:04.919 Failure and we had seen that blood off. 316 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:07.919 Yeah, and we had to wait. So but then we 317 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:10.399 know two thirds of all kidney function is lost once 318 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:13.399 we see the values are abnormal. So now we have 319 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:15.519 tests that we can detect that we can do something 320 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:18.000 to kind of slow that process down. 321 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:22.279 Or the old dog that had arthritis, I mean we 322 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:25.000 really we had no medicine, but now you know what 323 00:15:25.120 --> 00:15:27.879 they came up with, remadale, and so they come up 324 00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:30.679 with different medicines that the old dog that was arthritic 325 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:34.799 that we're able to treat now. So something I'll tell 326 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:37.840 you I thought about this the other day. Have you 327 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:42.080 noticed we're having more talks about cognitive dysfunction, which is 328 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:45.559 doggy similarity and all. So we're able to keep them, 329 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.559 keep them live longer, but unfortunately we haven't figured out 330 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:51.840 as far as the brain. They do get seen now, 331 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:54.480 so we get the dog that is staring at the 332 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:57.320 wall or goes outside and forgets where it is. So 333 00:15:57.360 --> 00:15:59.799 we have that talk a lot more so it's kind 334 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:01.720 of the gift and the curse of technology because I 335 00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:03.799 noticed I was like, Man, I'm having us talk a lot, 336 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:05.679 but I'm able to keep that dog that has a 337 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:08.720 heart problem. We can keep them alive or ourthrietis who 338 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:10.879 can keep them alive longer? Or kidding the problem. We 339 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:12.519 can keep them alive, but we just hadn't figured out 340 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:12.879 to bring it. 341 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:17.279 And when it comes to your typical day, I know 342 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:20.039 that you're sometimes maybe you're out looking at a lama 343 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:23.759 and we hate a barn, and then maybe you're delivering puppies, 344 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:26.519 get in the office. What is a typical day like? 345 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:28.639 And then also add cameras on top. 346 00:16:28.440 --> 00:16:32.360 Of that, there really is no typical day. And I'm 347 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:35.120 not being being facetious. But then again, they's serious because 348 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:38.440 we will make scheduled out calls, but you never know 349 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:39.960 what you're going to see when you go out, and 350 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:41.559 you never know what's going to come through the door 351 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:43.559 that's not scheduled. We try to do our surgers in 352 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:45.639 the morning, want their schedule, try to get them in 353 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:47.960 the morning because we're black for them to be done 354 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:50.279 about ten and taken care of so that they're able 355 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:53.159 to be up and go home that same day, depending 356 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:57.120 on the procedure. And then in between surgers and the 357 00:16:57.159 --> 00:16:59.000 rest of the day, we're seeing clients and we may 358 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:01.879 we don't. You just never know what about the sea section. 359 00:17:01.960 --> 00:17:04.039 It comes in in between, right. You know, I may 360 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:06.680 be in surgery during a cruciate surgery that you know 361 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:09.559 it may take a while to do, and he calls 362 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:13.160 and hollers in and look room right because he has 363 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:13.720 a sea section. 364 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:17.039 That actually happened on the show. I mean it was not. 365 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:21.000 It was like he was in teaching one of our 366 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:24.440 our our newer events how to perform with orthopedic surgery, 367 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:28.200 and I was like, bro, I need that surgery room. 368 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:29.920 He thought I was playing. 369 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:32.839 Yeah, initially I did. Here, you know, we joke all out, 370 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:34.759 but you know, on the second time around, I know 371 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:35.200 when he was. 372 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:37.039 Serious, and it was a puppet dangling out of this 373 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:38.000 dog that was stuck. 374 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:40.599 So it's time to get real, get serious, you know, 375 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:42.119 get the other dog at the table so we can 376 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:44.319 get this sea section taken care of. It becomes just 377 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:46.119 like that a life and death situation. 378 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:48.119 That's the same. We just you just don't know what's 379 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:48.839 coming in the door. 380 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:49.920 And it's definitely a roller coaster. 381 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:52.920 What do you wish that pet owners or your clients 382 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:56.599 did differently or knew? Is there something that you wish 383 00:17:56.640 --> 00:17:59.039 you could just telegraph it into pet owners heads. 384 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:03.559 In society today, it's bigger the better, the more exotic 385 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:05.799 or unique the better, and everybody want to go big 386 00:18:05.880 --> 00:18:08.039 or go home and this thing. But a lot of 387 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:12.160 times the simple things like these these exotic pets. Is 388 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:15.039 a tiger in the bathroom. I really wish they were 389 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:17.319 educated on how to take care of them. You know, 390 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:20.880 I had a case last week. It's a simple case. 391 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:25.519 This this bead dragon, which is a type of lizar. 392 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:27.400 It had. It came in and I took X rays 393 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:30.119 that had brittle bones. It wouldn't move. It was dragging 394 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:33.119 itself across the floor. In needs calcium and needs all 395 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:35.960 of it in UV light or either sunlight. You know, 396 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:38.400 obviously you can't stay outside with your lips at all 397 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:40.359 the time, so you need some UV. Like you try 398 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:42.440 not to make the person feel bad, but I was 399 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:45.200 talking to her, I was like, you know, this is 400 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:48.200 what's going on? And it was something simple. I was like, 401 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:50.000