Speaker 1: I made a decision. Face sunny sum, I had a
vision to everybody.
Speaker 2: Thanks for that finger calein. Welcome to for crying out loud.
I hear you have a mask on. You see his
beautiful face again. I see your daughter now and I
look at you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, she does look a lot like me.
She's so cute. I feel nervous right now. I can't
make me nervous. What's up? What's up?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Much? Well, okay, so this is something that has been.
Speaker 3: Then.
Speaker 1: I've been wanting to get off my chest for a
long time.
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't really talk much about it.
But if some of you guys listen to the Adam
Carolla show, you probably already heard that Adam and I
are separated and or getting a divorce. Yeah, I don't
know if it's there. You go and on with the show.
Speaker 1: What you do this week? Any tournaments?
Speaker 3: So do you want to speak more about Yeah.
Speaker 2: Of course, you know this has been something. My stomach
is growling behind the scenes for a long time. Can
you hear my stomach? No, I can feel it's.
Speaker 1: That nerve nerves.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, it's I don't like the people
that listen to Adam's show. I don't know if it's
big news to them. There's been a lot of speculation.
Adam doesn't really I guess hasn't talked much about me lately.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean we have been.
Speaker 2: Let's see, I want to say two thousand and nine teen,
two thousand, Well, we started therapy, do we remember do
I talk about did I ever talk about the first
therapist that we went to that was just like he
was a dude and he was just not good for
the two of us at all, Like he thought Adam
was mister Hollywood.
Speaker 1: And he'd go like, yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Know, sometimes Adam comes home and you know, everybody gets
saying yes to him all day, or he's tired and
he just wants to you know whatever, and he's you know,
and Adam's like, no, that's not me at all, that's
not I'm not mister Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Like he kept thinking that he just had us all wrong, huh.
Speaker 2: And Drew recommended him anyway, and so we tried him
for like three or four.
Speaker 3: So you think it's possible that Drew like having a
person that's like, you know, Drew, he's a.
Speaker 1: Pretty big Hollywood star.
Speaker 3: Yes, when Drew comes home, like he's used to people
being like, well it's true, yes, all right, I think
it maybe you know, he got his wires crossed, okay.
Speaker 1: So yeah.
Speaker 2: So then so Brittany comes along. And I got Brittany
for Natalia because she in our area. She's she specializes
in teenagers, and she's so cute because she like she's
probably I don't know, like thirty five, thirty four, but
she looks like she's twenty five. She's little, she's got
a little tattoo on her wrist, and she's just she's badass.
Speaker 3: I love Brittany, and she really got in Italia's like
spot on, you know.
Speaker 2: And Natalia struggles with anxiety a little bit and some
anxiousness and a little OCD. So I got her into
with Brittany early and often, and Adam and I would
have to come in and meet with Brittany from time
to time just to you know, get the rundown. And
there was one time it's just the two of us
in there with her, and she says, are YouTube.
Speaker 1: In couples therapy. And it was right.
Speaker 2: After like our fourth session with this guy, and Adam
and I are both like, this guy is nuts. He
doesn't understand our situation at all. He's not a good fit.
And we said, well, funny you say that, because and
here's another thing before I go on.
Speaker 1: Adam really liked Brittany, still does.
Speaker 2: Liked how she was so spot on with Natalia and
just no bs and no just really in tune with
what Natalia was all about, and she got it and
she understood how to talk to us about it. She
was just great all around, and so he respected her.
Speaker 3: And she said, if you're not in, if you don't
have a therapist, she said, and you want a therapist.
All I usually don't do marriage, you know, I don't
do a couple therapy, but I will for you guys,
because I think you guys are cool.
Speaker 2: That's what she said. I'll never forget. And we were
like done and done. Okay, So we went to so
we were going to see her on a regular basis,
and I talked about it, didn't I.
Speaker 1: Talk about our therapy session? Of course? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, then we did it, decided to
do like take a little break from the relationship and.
Speaker 1: Work on ourselves, and we did that for a.
Speaker 2: While and then you know, I just I've been with
Adam since I was twenty five and I'm fifty, so
I'm fifty one, but like that's my pretty much my
whole adult life.
Speaker 1: And I met him.
Speaker 3: Young, and he was I don't know, yeah, thirty and
he was just starting out like three months into love
line when I.
Speaker 2: Met him, and you know, we were both pretty young.
And I never really I had like Mike Gerstein when
I was like in my high school years and right
out of high school, and that was about it for
like seven years, I think with Mike on and off,
and then like dated at douchebags. But then you know,
meant Adam and I think we had a good run,
Like I do. I think we you know.
Speaker 1: We we had our kids. Like I wouldn't change anything.
Speaker 2: I mean he I learned a lot from Adam about myself,
and you know, he's the father of my kids. And
I just think that Adam and I were not doing
a good job as getting on the same page as
far as raising the kids together. There was a lot
of miscommunication, a lot of not a lot of follow
through and blah blah blah. And since we took the
like we took the pressure off the marriage to work
on ourselves individual and she has now people are always
going to be like, well, how does she?
Speaker 1: How is she?
Speaker 2: Why do you guys have the same therapist? That's weird.
It just works, It just does.
Speaker 1: I can't. And she has a license.
Speaker 2: She has all her licenses, the family marriage, the all
those licenses, but she also has especially coaching license so
that she's able to go to So that's how she
works with kids. She's if the kids go, can you
come to my game on a Saturday, she can go,
like instead of meeting them in one on one in
an office, she'll go to the park and throw a
ball with them, or you know, meet them somewhere like
she's able to.
Speaker 1: She's got a little more freedom.
Speaker 2: So with this license, she's able to see both of us,
and we both agreed that she can say whatever she
wants to us about whatever we say to her, unless
we tell her not to. If she thinks it's a
good idea for the other person to know what the
other person is saying. Okay, so it's worked that way. Okay,
it was work, and it's still working and we're still
doing that. So I would say, like in spring of
twenty nineteen, at some point I was just thinking, like
I don't I can't.
Speaker 1: I would rather us.
Speaker 2: I can't see us moving forward as a couple anymore,
like as a husband and wife. But I still enjoyed
being around Adam when he's in the right mood, and
I still, you know, we have our kids, and I
just wanted to focus on getting into a better relationship
with him instead of husband and wife. When we took
the pressure off of us ourselves, I felt a little
like I could breathe a little bit more. I just felt,
you know, this is I'm fifty now. I got to
think about the second chapter of my life, and I
just thought it would be a better idea of us
just working on trying to be better parents for the
kids and getting into a better relationship with all the
resent you know, just getting rid of all that resentment
and moving forward in a positive way. So that's where
I was coming from. And I told that to Brittany,
like pretty early into the individual one on one therapy,
and yeah, and she I felt like she was the
first person in the whole world other than like Wendy
and Suzanne that really saw like the what I you know,
how our marriage was and how we sort of grew
into this, like, well, I'm going to go to Chicago
with the kids and blah blah blah, even though it's
Thanksgiving and you know, and it was like okay for
him and okay for me. You know, it was we
started just doing our individual started just spending our lives
individually rather than husband and wife. I mean, we went
on family vacations, but there was a difference between like,
you know, we went on family vacations with like sal
Melissa and Kellison and his wife, and there's a difference
between the way they are with their husbands and the
way Adam and I. I was like, we didn't seem
like sort of husband and wife. Didn't feel like that
towards the end earlier on, I mean, we had a
lot of good years, but like towards the last few years,
wasn't It was just obvious like we were just kind
of drifting apart, and I just wanted to get that negative.
I just wanted to move forward with him in a
just indifferent way. And that's the only way I can
explain it. I still I love him, you know, And
nobody cheated on each other. There was nobody else. I mean,
I can tell you I've never cheated. I don't think
he has, but it's.
Speaker 1: Just that we you know, we just want to We
kind of wanted two different things. You know. He wanted
to go on hikes, I didn't. I don't know. He
wanted to build a vacation home. I didn't.
Speaker 3: You know, I went through a lot of home remodel,
you know, and.
Speaker 2: There was a lot, you know that we went through.
But we were just kind.
Speaker 3: Of growing apart, and I think that there were things
that he wanted from you, maybe that you just at
some point realized I'm just never going to be that.
Speaker 2: Yes, there was all that, definitely, Yeah, I mean there was.
Speaker 1: On both sides. He wanted me to be something, I
wanted him to be something.
Speaker 3: And we're just I realized in therapy that that this
is We're going to be going through therapy forever. It's
just gonna, you know, times ticking like life is sure
and you know, when you get to be fifty, you're like, well,
how much longer do you want to spend working on
something that might.
Speaker 2: Not like is it so salvageable? Like I don't know,
I didn't. I didn't think it was. And you want
to have like some more kids? Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: A little joke I was a throwing in a little
joke for some levity except my head. Well, I know
that you wanted to get this off your chest, and
we have Patreon to talk you know.
Speaker 1: A little more in depth. Yeah, I can tell you more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that but I thought that's what people need
to know moving forward, right, so now you don't have
to you know when need Well.
Speaker 2: It's been hard because there's so many you know, so
we should we.
Speaker 1: Do an ad and then I'll tell you sure, okay, okay,
So you were saying that you that it's been hard. Yeah,
because it's.
Speaker 3: Been hard, definitely not being able to talk about it
well because so this is so what we're doing is now,
let's talk about the kids for a second. You know,
it was we we put it on we have about.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I think it was almost Jean twenty. Yeah,
it was like a little bit.
Speaker 2: Over a year of us in therapy and sort of
living in the same house but not as husband and
wife but not but nothing really changed in front of
the kids. First of all, I am an idle argue
or anything like that. Well, we do, but not in
front of the kids. There's no like, you know, weird
silent treatments going on or any there's no then there
was no tension.
Speaker 1: You know, I always tried to keep a happy face.
Speaker 2: And you know, and so we had didn't we have
dinner with the kids, and nothing really changed for them.
But behind the scenes, we were going to therapy and
you know, decided that we were going to end it
at some point.
Speaker 3: But so.
Speaker 1: We decided to tell the kids.
Speaker 2: We told the kids a while ago and I think
it was I don't know, like nine months ago now,
and that.
Speaker 1: We had it. We told we told.
Speaker 2: So, we told them we were going to talk, we
were going to go to therapy Brittany. We brought them
with us to Brittany and it was for them to
like catch up on things. And then we you know,
we Adam just blurted it out and your mother and
I was getting at of divorce, and you know, they
were they handled it pretty well. I mean, you know,
they're of course it's going to upset them. And I
would hope everybody just you know, remembers that we have
kids and to have respect about that, because we have
teenagers that are on social media, and I would hope
that people would have.
Speaker 1: Respect during this time for that. I would too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but it was interesting because you know, they
did ask questions. And after it was done, Brittany told me,
she said, you know, I do this a lot with
families where we tell the kids that the parents are
getting divorced, and she said, your kids did not once
ask why. And so you know, they got used to
Adam and I living my own thing, like, oh, Dad's
going to be out of town, so let's go, you know,
see the relatives or whatever.
Speaker 1: They got used to.
Speaker 2: That, and they've been like again, we've been on family
vacations and stuff. We you know, when the kids had
games in town, all four went to their games together,
even though we were separated at that point. So we said,
like to them, nothing's gonna change really because we had
like luckily that we have the resources to be able
to instead of having them go back and forth, we
go back and forth. So we're doing the nesting thing.
And Adam decided to buy his mouth that Malibu place
before the talk of divorce. It was early on, and
it was because Natalia. It was like Natalia was going
on these drives and wanting to go to Malibu and stuff,
and Adam was like, she said, like, can we get
a house to rent for the summer, you know, and
he was like, instead of rent, well, I won't we
buy something. Adam's not a renter, so you know, so
then it was lucky that he had the place, and
we just basically said that, you know, you guys are
gonna stay in the house and mom and dad are
going to figure out a schedule and we're going to rotate.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's what nesting is. That's what nesting.
Speaker 2: Yes, where the parents go somewhere and the other parent
comes for a few days or whatever your schedule is.
So at first though, we didn't do it yet. We
let them get used to it, the fact of the
idea of you know, divorce and then and then eventually
Adam started staying in Malibu a little more and more,
and then you know, I still have a condo, but
Olga lives in it. So until she you know, we
talked to Olga and I don't know who's getting Olga
in the divorce.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be Adam obviously.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's kind of taken over my role, like, you know,
cooking for him and taking his clothes to the dry
cleaning and all that.
Speaker 1: You know, she stepped up her role. Thank God for Olga.
And uh so she's, yeah, she's.
Speaker 2: Been living in my condo ever since day one with her,
and she knew that this was coming. And she lives
with her daughter and her daughter's son and her son
in law, our daughter's husband who works here, who I
love to death. It's a hard worker. And they're looking
for a place to live. And so the plan is
for now, like we're just going to be, you know,
rotating until they're done with school and then we'll figure
it out. So we have until they're in he out
of high school. And in the meantime, I had to
find just like a quick apartment somewhere close by. There
was Luckily, one of Sonny's friends in town was going
through it went through a divorce right when I talked
to her about it, and she like already been there,
done that, has a mediator, knew the places to look
for living nearby, and so I got like this Airbnb
in Pasadena that's like seven minutes away. I mean, it's
really close, and I'm going to stay there until Olga,
you know, find someplace and and.
Speaker 1: And so I've been staying in this airba.
Speaker 3: So I couldn't really talk about it on our show,
you know, Mondays. So our schedule is Adam is there
every Monday and Tuesday no matter what. I'm there every
Wednesday and Thursday no matter what. And then every other
Friday through Sunday. We rotate, so somebody's there five days
in a row, you see. So if it's my weekend
to be there, I'm there Wednesday all the way until Sunday,
and if he's there, you know, so anyway, everybody can
figure that out. So we rotate, and it's nice because
then Adam goes to.
Speaker 2: Work and then I come there. I'm there during the
day while they're in school, just like normal. I just
come there, you know. He leaves around ten and the
I come there and I'm there, and then he gets
back around four or something, and then Olga gets there
at like three. So they're these kids like I'm taking
her to her practices all the time. It doesn't really change, right,
and nothing's really changed for them, and we're lucky for that.
So they've they've they seem to be handling it pretty well.
I mean from what I've seen they are. Yeah, yeah,
I Natalia definitely, she's like all right, her one question
was do we still go to Jimmy's house for Christmas Eve?
Speaker 1: That was one of her like first questions. So yeah,
I mean.
Speaker 2: Sonny's a little more sensitive, definitely, And yeah, he was
like sad about it, obviously, and Natalia was too, but
like Sonny, you know, I'm sure he's not happy. They're
both I'm not happy about it, but they understand. They're
at the age where they understand, which lucky. I mean,
if it was five years ago, I don't it would
have been bad. But now they're at that age. So
that's the plan.
Speaker 3: And you know, we're just going to continue going through
therapy and working on becoming better parents and.
Speaker 2: And and it has. We've come a long way. Definitely,
we're on you know, getting on the same page and
working through Brittany, and Brittany will say like, if you
can do this for me with Adam, that would help me,
so that I can help him. You know, he's working
on like bonding more with Natalia.
Speaker 1: Which is nice. You know, he's a dude.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know how to bond with a teenage girl,
you know, and so she's helping him through that and
they're they're they're doing pretty well. And you know, just
keeping the therapy and keep the therapy going. The kids
are going to therapy as well when they need it.
Speaker 3: And yeah, now I'm like living in a you know,
living in my own little bachelorette place.
Speaker 1: But you're happy. I am happy, Yeah I am.
Speaker 3: I mean, as your co host and friend, I all
I can say is like I just support you and
always have you whatever your Stephanie.
Speaker 1: No one's worked harder on a marriage than you, like,
thank you. I've been with.
Speaker 3: You for a long time and I've heard a lot
of the ups and downs and the you know, how
you feel. Obviously I hear things from your perspective, but
I feel like you are super fair minded and really
gave this all you had, and you would not have
made this decision if this wasn't the best thing for
you and the whole family, right, And you deserve happiness,
thank you.
Speaker 1: You deserve You're.
Speaker 3: Young still and like, if it's not gonna last forever,
then why not have that second chapter?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: That's what I've been saying, you know, And that's how
what I've that's the mindset I have, and you know the.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 2: I mean, I did go through a time where I
was not happy. I mean I was really unhappy, and
I kind of knew it before we even went to
it was when you're in it, you don't understand it
really like you now. But now that I'm out of
it and I'm looking back, like I was unhappy for
a while for a long time, and I tried, and
yeah I did, and I was like drinking a lot
and just you know, just not you know, I before
we went to therapy, and so this was years ago,
and I realized like I didn't know if I could
ever be happy. I just thought like, all right, well,
I'm just gonna tough it out and you know, be
there and be there for the kids. And but then
when you go to therapy and you realize like that's
not sustainable at all. Can't do that and it's not
going to make anybody happy. You have to make a choice,
and it's as hard as it is. It was, I
just realized that, you know, I look, I think everybody's
going to thank me in the long run. I think
that Adam has a shot of being happy and the
same as me, and I think we're both happy.
Speaker 1: Then it benefits everybody.
Speaker 2: And I think that he's gonna be thanking me later
on somewhare down the road. I just don't think that
I was cut out to be like what he really wanted,
you know.
Speaker 1: That's how I felt. That's how I felt, and.
Speaker 3: It was hard to deal with and then to come
to that realization, but then not being in therapy or
really talking about it only with my you know you
and my close friends talking about it, but like it
was tough for a long time.
Speaker 1: And so I feel like I went through the anger.
Speaker 2: In the morning and all that already, and by the
time I got to Brittany, she you know, she was like,
I see a difference, Like it's it was like your
light was dim. It was like somebody took your light
and switched it off, and now like your lights on,
you know, like you were out of gas when you
came to therapy. And she could see that immediately. And
because I.
Speaker 1: Did, I was trying. I was trying trying, and because
I did, I love at him.
Speaker 2: Like I you know, I never wanted to get a
divorce ever, but like I said, I just started thinking,
like all right, like let's get real, I'm not getting
any younger, he's not getting any younger, and.
Speaker 3: We should be happy. We deserve to be happy. You Yes,
you deserve to be happy.
Speaker 2: So you got to go through that shit to get
to the happy side. Yeah, and I feel content. Yeah,
I'm I'm happy. I get sad when I'm at my
other place. Like at first, I was like, oh, bachelor,
I've had nobody bought, no Phil, no.
Speaker 1: Phill hair, no fill all up in my grill. Listen,
you're not divorcing Phil. Oh God, that dog, I really
he is much. He follows me everywhere. But like I
was just thinking, you know, oh, like okay, I'm gonna
be by myself.
Speaker 2: Like the mom that I was talking to, she was
raising three boys and her situation was different and her
husband cheated and she found out about it. So she
it wasn't like, you know, it took her by surprise
and she went through a hard time. But she was like,
it's really once you get your place, you're gonna feel great.
Speaker 1: It'll feel different, but it'll feel nice. And so I
saw that part.
Speaker 2: But then like so at first I was like whoa
you know, And then I was like, huh, I'm here
for the whole weekend with like nope, So on the
weekends he's there, you know, during the week it's different
because I'm there, so I see the kids all the time, right,
every day, but on the weekends he's with them. I
don't go over there, but not every weekend, right, well
every other weekend, right, So, but like, you know, there's
Sunday nights where I'm by myself, and I'm like, it's
just weird not having anybody in the house, like anybody
looking for me, you know. And Natalia had a hard
time at for a little while in the beginning because
she was left with Adam and Sonny and that's when
she was fighting with Sonny all the time, and you know,
and you know, Adam's not the mom, so he doesn't
think about putting lights on before he, you know, leaves
to go to work on Sunday, right, and the Italia
comes home and the lights are off and nobody's around,
and so then she calls me.
Speaker 1: You know, there was a.
Speaker 2: Little adjustment she you know, Sonny feels ganged up on
sometimes when it's just me and him, me and her
and me and the two of them, right, he feels
like the two of us are sometimes you know, he's
got to be like the man of the house or something, right,
And then she feels ganged up on when she's alone
with the two of them.
Speaker 3: I'm like, these two. It was during the election, you know,
there was all the politics.
Speaker 2: They were arguing. You know, she was arguing with her
dad about it and her brother about it, and it
was just, you know, it's tough. But now those two
are getting along great. I think everybody's adjusted very well.
And definitely Sonny and Itali are getting along nicely, which
is great, and it's there. I feel like I can
relax and have peace on the weekends now because they did.
She had a hard time, but now now things are
calm and better.
Speaker 1: And my little place it's really cute.
Speaker 2: Barry and Van Martin are the two guys that run it,
and it's like this little it's like four plex. They
live in one, so I don't feel like, you know,
like I'm alone. I feel like they're they're they're on property,
so I'm never by my like I feel like somebody's around,
you know, right the other three they rent down the
other units.
Speaker 3: It's really cute. It's really small, but it's really cute.
I don't what do I need, you know, And so
that I mean, yeah, how do I put this? I
guess that would go against anybody who wants to say
you're a gold digger.
Speaker 1: I guess never thought about that.
Speaker 3: I mean, you are surrounded by like Chanel bags in
your small You don't need a lot of square footage,
but you need a lot of really nice bags.
Speaker 1: Yes, like a burkin. You have how many berkins? Do?
About eight? Now? Yeah? So you're gonna hold onto those though?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I a little made a huge like area. I
basically took over my whole place with all my shoes
and back all your shoes and backs, Yeah, I just
move them there.
Speaker 3: But you're just a shoes and bags person. That's that's
how you've always.
Speaker 1: Been to shop at Target. Like what I'm you?
Speaker 2: I wear yoga pants every day, right, but you just
have I got forty.
Speaker 3: Thousand dollars back. Oh my gosh, well gold I've just
had him.
Speaker 1: You feel better. I do feel better.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: I feel like I can talk freely now Like before
it was like, so what's going on? I'm not sing much,
you know, and talk about it on our show. Right
now I can like talk about my life again, right,
you know? That feels so good? And I take I
took his lead, Like whenever you want to talk about it.
Speaker 1: I you know, we don't need to address it right away.
Speaker 3: Everybody's like speculating obviously, But like when I say.
Speaker 1: Everybody, I mean his audience. But like you know, I
just was patient. I just took his lead.
Speaker 2: And there was a couple of times where I was
driving in here on a Monday, going like, let me
just talk to him and ask him if I can
talk about it, Like, na, this is all lot so
the paperwork is gonna get filed soon. So I just
thought it's a good idea to talk about it first
before it gets filed.
Speaker 1: You know who, No, I don't know. I just I
think that's the right move. Yeah, m hmm.
Speaker 2: It's just tough when you have kids, you know, like
you just want to protect them. Of course, especially teenagers,
you know, they they can google stuff all the time.
Like Natalia said, she she she looked up. She just
saw a psychic. Did I tell you about the psychic?
Speaker 1: No? Oh boy? Should we do an ad? And then yeah,
the psychic? What were you just going to say? The psychic? Yes?
Speaker 3: So Natalia's friend's birthday was coming up and she was like, mom,
her friend's mom is getting us a psychic reading but
we don't know where to Like she said she'd do
it for her and her friend.
Speaker 2: She picked me to do it with, but we a
psychic and I was and she's like, she found somebody online.
I go, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1: Don't go for that Sharmuta.
Speaker 2: I said, So, Jen Jennifer here, who's the host of
Lady Lackey's becoming my favorite show. And she recently has
been seeing this like online, so she did a zoom
with her. She recorded it on her phone and she
did it like six months ago, and then she did
it again recently. And I see Jen every Wednesday for
our meetings here for Corolla drinks and afterwards she'll tell
me about the psychic.
Speaker 1: Some of the things the psychic said happened, Like.
Speaker 2: She said, your boyfriend who broke up with you is
going to come back around in the spring or something
like that, and he did, like around springtime.
Speaker 1: She was pretty spot on with a lot of stuff.
She found this.
Speaker 2: She was looking for a psychic and she was on like,
I don't know, one of those Facebook pages like that
you're on, like I don't know, like Whispering Eileen's or
some huh. I don't know if it's that one. It
was something okay, and they were taught. There was a
thread about psychics and there was one woman that was,
you know, giving this woman you know, high praises about
how great she was.
Speaker 1: So she was spot on. It's so much that Jen did.
Speaker 2: It again recently and she records it, which is really smart,
and so then she can go back and listen. And
uh so I was like, all right, well, I think
I might have somebody for you. So I got this
woman's name for her, gave it to the mom, and
then they set it up and they did it at
my house.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was like last week and Natalia said, Mom. First,
the psychic said you're you're uh? She said, your mother
is your mother? Her?
Speaker 1: Your grandmother's gone?
Speaker 2: Right, yes, she says Sidnatalia, She said, well, just tell
your mom that there's somebody there is a woman with
dark hair that's around her constantly, and your grandmother, I'm
gonna guess, was pretty spunky and pretty feisty.
Speaker 1: She told Thentalian. Wow, And I'm like, did she know?
Speaker 2: She did know the girls' names, so I don't know,
if you like she googles them. I don't know what
she does maybe maybe not, I don't know. But she
did tell her that her grandmother was spunky and that
she's around feisty and that she's around me, which freaked
Italian out.
Speaker 1: And then she talked to Natalian.
Speaker 2: She said that she's got relatives that live on the east,
like like not live close by, that she's very close
with she misses. But then she told her, she said,
so your parents are are divorced, and she said they're
getting divorced and she said, okay, and she said, I
see your dad dating, but dating a lot, but I
see your mom finding somebody a good like. Natalia was
like telling She's like, but she said, you're gonna find
a really good guy. Really, he's going to be the one,
she said, And I was like, the one. I don't
want to get married. That's the last thing I need
right now. It's another guy. I was like, Oh, nice
Jewish lawyer in my future. So yeah, and that's what
she said, and I was like, Okay, that's.
Speaker 1: Interesting, but uh yeah.
Speaker 2: So that was the psychic oh Natalia. So then she
went online and she googled. So she went to our
like Adam's Wikipedia page and then she was like, mom,
do you realize that you guys got married on the
twenty eighth. On the twenty second is when you told
us you were getting a divorce. That's seven days apart.
And that makes and then we were only six days apart.
That's what Wait, the twenty second or the twenty third.
She had the date written down of the date. It
was around the twenty second or the twenty I don't know,
and she said it was seven days in between. And
they're born on the seventh, Sonny and Natalia. That's what
she made that connection. I was like, Okay, so now
she's like, you know.
Speaker 3: So they're googling, they're online, and they're reading things, right,
So I just got to figure out how to.
Speaker 1: Get Reddit away from them.
Speaker 3: What I love about podcasts is it's not super googleable,
like yeah, which is why I was able, I think,
for so long to talk about like Xander's transition, you know,
personal things I feel like we can talk about, especially
on Patreon. Yeah wink wink. But uh, just because it
doesn't help to google the name, it's not going to
come unless we call the episode that, right, It's just talk,
it's just talking. It sort of goes away, especially on
especially on this podcast because it goes behind a paywall
with and people are like, well, what's gone miss that counsel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh well yeah that is the nice thing. Yeah,
can't go back and find it. That's that's how come
we can be more unfiltered right with our chat. Yeah,
that's true. Tell you guys about our lives because we're
not worried that you're now. When I used to blog.
Speaker 3: Now, that's sometimes I get emails from people that are like, hey,
I was just reading about how you uh were having
a lot of anxiety when you quit drinking. And I'm
like what, and I'll find out it was from an
article that remember, for a little while I was working
for work at health, Yeah, and I was writing all
these articles about sobriety.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, people just google shit, like they.
Speaker 3: Google alcoholism anxiety and then like my article comes up.
And it's just sometimes I get these blasts from the
past that I'm happy about. Sometimes not so much. Sometimes
somebody's like mad at me about something and I'm like,
I wrote that in twenty.
Speaker 1: Twelve, My god, Like, how did you find that? Yeah? Yeah,
it's weird, it is, I bet, But never with.
Speaker 3: A podcast, Nobody ever is like you said on your
podcast in two thousand and seven that blob right.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I didn't have a podcast in
two thousand and seven, so but you know, but yeah, no,
that is the nice thing that is it's probably good
for the kids.
Speaker 3: To Yeah, I listen, there's a lot of stuff to
google about me. And also, I mean I'm paranoid about
that too. I'm sure that my kids have found stuff.
Speaker 2: Hi you going, I yeah, I know, definitely. That's why
I well, that's why I got her into therapy early.
But I mean, you gotta I gotta stay on them
and talk to them and you know, and make sure
that they're okay, or they have questions or whatever they
saw something they want to talk about.
Speaker 1: You know. I just try and.
Speaker 2: Have that open line of communication because God knows like
all the shit Adam says, and it's just it's just
it's it's tough raising kids. I mean, not even just
being in the public eye. It's just tough having social
media and you know, when your kid is growing up,
it's tough.
Speaker 1: But anyway, but I do feel I do feel happy. Good.
Yeah good.
Speaker 3: I think that anybody who everybody who hears this, Look,
here's the thing. You're not asking for approval for. This
is your life, this.
Speaker 1: Is your decision.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what anybody else thinks, obviously, But I
do truly believe.
Speaker 1: That our podcast listeners our friends.
Speaker 3: Yes, I have to believe that we're not like Joe Rogan.
People aren't hate listening or just like either. I think
people feel like you're a friend of theirs and you
what do you want for your friends? You want them
to be happy and have a great life. So I
think that you know what's right for you. You're a grown
You're a grown ass woman, and I believe that our
audience is going to understand that you're doing the best
thing for your kids and your family. You're great mom,
You're fabulous mom. You would not have made a decision
that would harm your kids. Now.
Speaker 1: You made a decision to do.
Speaker 3: Something that you felt would be a positive move in
the end for everybody, as you have said. So I
hope that our audience can come from only love and support.
Thank you for their friend, Lynette Corolla sister, thank you,
that's right, thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they will.
Speaker 3: I'm sure they will, and I'm sure there's gonna be
a lot of other chat or two. But listen, there's
a couple of assholes in every bunch. As we've talked about,
you know, we're going to talk more about it on
Patreon and even on our Patreon that people pay for.
There will be people that will say shit, and then
I'll delete it.
Speaker 1: Right before I could see it.
Speaker 3: I used to get more mad and sometimes talk back
because look on like a public forum, like say, you
read my book and you want to leave me a
shitty Amazon review.
Speaker 1: I'm never going to like write, First of all, I probably.
Speaker 3: Won't see it because I don't really read those, but
if I did, I'm not going to like respond, how
dare you? But when you come to my house right,
which is and you talk to me like you're not
really talking to me, like you're just giving a critique
of the show. Again, I've said this before, I don't
know who you think is reading it.
Speaker 1: We don't have a boss, right, nobody's reading your.
Speaker 3: Complaint and going, you know what, I'm going to sit
that Stephanie Wilder Taylor down and talk to her about
straighten her ass out, like right, oh, totally. No one's
going to sit Lynette down and go listen, rethink this.
Ruth from Cincinnati things that you're fucking bad, mom, you're
fucking it up.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, good luck to you. Yeah. Yeah, I mean
there's always going to be those troublemakers. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I'm I definitely I'm not happy that
the marriage ended, obviously, but I'm I'm hopeful for like
the future that we can both find, you know, happiness,
whether it's alone or with somebody or whatever it is.
But I just feel like it's just going to be
so much better for both of us, you know. And
I don't know if Adam sees that yet or not.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what he I mean,
you know, it's tough.
Speaker 2: It's tough when you're when you come at it in
a different place like I've thought coming, but I didn't
know in the moment like it was coming.
Speaker 1: I just thought that this is what life is.
Speaker 2: It's tough, or you're it's hard being a long term
relationship or whatever. I just kind of was struggling with that,
and then I, you know, did that morning and sad
and angry stages, and but he wasn't privy to that,
so I didn't tell him really until we started going
to therapy, so that's when you know. So then I
think that I think Adam definitely wanted to try. I
know he did more, but I feel like I kind
of just took the bull by the horns and just said, like,
let's let's just call time and death. I guess, Cayln,
what do you think.
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you, Lynette. I'm happy that you're happy now.
I kind of I saw you as well, kind of
go through all this a little bit more from afar.
But yeah, I'm happy that you're doing a lot better
now and that everything's worked out. Thank you, thank you,
Thanks Kaylen.
Speaker 3: I mean from a strictly selfish perspective, I feel like
the shows.
Speaker 1: Have gotten a lot funnier.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't you, Kaitlin be honest?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: There's like a light like you have your I don't
know you feel like you do you see a difference
in me? Oh yeah yeah I have for a long yes,
really for a while. Yes, there's like a you are
a much life and looser and but you've you've always
been unfiltered and honest. But I just I feel like
there's more like a lightness. Yeah, there is, like you said,
like your light is back light. You're more yourself, right.
I feel like you used to be more guarded, even
though you would still talk about stuff and be honest,
but I felt like there was like a slight weight,
yes of how you were supposed to be, And now
I feel like you're just more Lynette, right, You're more
lynette ish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a good way of funny.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I do I feel I do feel lighter. I do
I see your personality more.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was a little more I don't know, worried about what,
you know, feeling judged sometimes maybe, yeah, definitely. And now
I just don't give a five fox zero fox anyway.
That's all all right, Thank you guys, Thanks for being
patient and waiting for Patreon to come out on Friday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we love you guys. To your parents now, don't
f it up.