WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:02.560 And I had a sense of dread when we first 2 00:00:02.560 --> 00:00:04.679 pulled in there, and I just tried to ignore it, 3 00:00:04.759 --> 00:00:07.400 and it didn't take maybe fifteen minutes. I was sitting 4 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:10.359 next to the fire and all of a sudden, I 5 00:00:10.439 --> 00:00:13.080 hear a foot stomp, and I was just like, oh 6 00:00:13.119 --> 00:00:16.600 my god. I immediately I said to myself, maybe it's 7 00:00:16.640 --> 00:00:18.839 an elk, But I knew, I knew. I mean, I 8 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:21.079 look down at the ground as I'm sitting there, trying 9 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:23.000 to act naturalize, like I know what that is. 10 00:00:56.719 --> 00:00:59.119 I guess the best place to start is back at 11 00:00:59.119 --> 00:01:02.359 the beginning. How did you get interested in all this 12 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:03.240 bigfoot stuff? 13 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:06.840 Well, when I was a kid. I didn't realize till 14 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:07.560 I was an adult. 15 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:09.079 But when I was a kid, we lived on an 16 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:13.000 old homestead Yambula, Oregon, and we were way up on 17 00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:17.959 a mountain, and one day I saw what I thought 18 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:21.640 was a man down at our well was down a slope, 19 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:26.760 probably one hundred yards from the house, and I was 20 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:29.680 just learning to walk again. I had hip problems as 21 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:32.439 a kid, at hip disease, so I was kind of 22 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:34.840 just learning to be able to walk independently. 23 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:39.840 At I was around eleven or so, and the grass. 24 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:42.560 Grew super high there, and so I was kind of 25 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:44.840 filling the tops of the grass and I looked down 26 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:47.400 over the hill and I saw the back of a 27 00:01:47.480 --> 00:01:51.079 head and slicked back black hair. 28 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:54.400 That was the style back then for men. You know, 29 00:01:54.480 --> 00:01:57.920 the real cream a little devil, do you. Yeah. 30 00:01:58.040 --> 00:02:02.920 It scared me, so I, you know, hobbled back to 31 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:04.560 the house and I told my mom there was a 32 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:08.159 man down there at our well. And uh, they went 33 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:10.439 and looked, and they were they were upset with me. 34 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:12.800 They thought maybe that I was making up a story 35 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:15.280 or something because they said there's nobody down there. But 36 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:18.360 when I think about it as an adult, I was like, wow, 37 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:21.120 there's only one way in and one way out to that. 38 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:24.599 To get to that house, we were literally the end 39 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:26.879 of a mile drive and. 40 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:28.919 It was one way in, one way out. There was 41 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:30.360 you would have had to drive in there. 42 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:33.319 So so I figured that out as an adult, I 43 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:35.680 was like, Hell, that must have been a sasquatch. 44 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:36.960 Had to be. 45 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:40.680 Uh, the different noises and stuff we would hear at night, 46 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:44.680 like conversation when we'd be out playing. Because you know, 47 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:48.159 when you're in the country, especially back in the seventies, Uh, 48 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:50.680 you didn't have internet you didn't have. You had three 49 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:53.879 channels of television, that's all you had. So we spent 50 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:59.159 a lot of time out on that property catching snakes 51 00:02:59.199 --> 00:03:06.080 and things like alligator, lizards and skinks. We'd be yelling, 52 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:09.159 get off our land because you could hear like conversation. 53 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:12.759 And again we didn't realize, so. 54 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:13.840 We were adults that. 55 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:18.360 I had to be sas squashing her because it couldn't 56 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:21.039 be humans. Why would there be humans, And they would 57 00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:24.120 have had to drive all the way from gas and. 58 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:27.039 Then through that you can hear people coming a mile 59 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:28.719 away when we'd have guests and stuff. 60 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:33.960 So again that's something I figured out once I became 61 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:34.560 an adult. 62 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:38.000 And then I met Will Jebning. 63 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:42.879 We worked at the same company and we were giving 64 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:45.000 each other rides home as in one day he says, 65 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:46.520 they don't want to tell you something, but you got 66 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:47.560 to keep it to yourself. 67 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:49.879 And told me you did big foot stuff. 68 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:52.800 And I had about twenty books in my house on 69 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:57.199 that subject, and I told him, yeah, I've been I've 70 00:03:57.240 --> 00:04:00.919 been fascinated with this for years myself, but I never 71 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:04.120 I never We never went looking for him or anything 72 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:08.240 like that. Just every once in a while you'd stumble 73 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:12.800 on a track that you just'd be like hmm. When 74 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:15.080 I was in job Corps, we climbed Vulcan Mountain. It 75 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:20.199 took us seven hours to climb Vulcan Mountain. And we 76 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:24.879 found one track on the top where it overlooked the 77 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:26.480 valley and it was. 78 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:32.079 A muddy just a muddy spot with the rest of 79 00:04:32.120 --> 00:04:37.240 it was all granted and it obviously stood. This was 80 00:04:37.279 --> 00:04:39.639 a right foot, so it obviously stood with the left 81 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:43.399 foot on on the. 82 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:45.319 Boulder that was there and is and the right foot 83 00:04:45.480 --> 00:04:50.600 was was in that that uh, that mud. We went 84 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:54.040 back down the mountain and and uh, they gave us 85 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:57.560 a bag of lime since we didn't have anything else. 86 00:04:57.600 --> 00:05:00.120 They thought we were just messing with them. So we 87 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:04.120 went we climbed that mountain again and climbed I mean 88 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:07.079 we walked up at you know, it's pretty steep. But 89 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:10.600 it took us many hours. But we filled that track 90 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:15.160 in with that line, took the picture. And then the 91 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:19.920 guy that ran uh that job corps was Ed Allen. 92 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:24.920 He was head of the forestry service in that particular area. 93 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:28.680 He took our film. Uh, he took our picture and 94 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:32.399 didn't give it back. And yeah, this thing was a 95 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:35.839 huge print he said, that's nothing more than a shi 96 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:39.079 gris up there, and we're you know, I didn't know 97 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:41.360 what a grizzly bear track look like, but I know 98 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:44.600 what they look like now thanks to the Internet. But 99 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:47.360 and a bear track, and that was not a bear track. 100 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:54.199 That was that was one huge wide foot that but you. 101 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:57.920 Know that was you could feel while you were up 102 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:01.480 on that mountain too, just that a little bit of 103 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:03.360 a sense of look around type of thing. 104 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:05.279 You felt like something was kind of watching you. 105 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:09.040 Yeah, but the whole time when we're walking up that, 106 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:11.839 like I said, it took six or seven hours. In 107 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:14.959 one section, we'd see big horn sheep laying down just 108 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:17.360 staring at us. And then you get to a higher 109 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:20.720 section and then there's elk just just looking at you. 110 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:22.439 They don't get a lot of human. 111 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:26.240 Interaction there, and so yeah, that was fascinating for me 112 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:30.639 because I'd never seen a big horn sheep before. But yeah, 113 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:33.040 that was that was just the beginning of that kind 114 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:37.199 of stuff. And then you know, meeting Will Jevning. We 115 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:41.480 were fast friends for about about almost two years. 116 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:44.199 I mean like real close. 117 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:47.959 But man, we would go out and we would never 118 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:52.199 see anything, nothing, not anything, And the very the very 119 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:57.519 second that we decided we didn't want to do it anymore. Uh, 120 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:00.600 my wife and I go to what's called the Devil's 121 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:04.079 Backbone to camp for the weekend, and there's a whole 122 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:08.240 line of like maybe four or five inch tracks, and 123 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:12.639 I measured them out for the distance between the is 124 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:15.839 between the stride was forty inches. 125 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:20.480 Somewhere in there spent a lot of years. And then 126 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:21.720 I realized. 127 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:25.279 After a while that those were all left feet, so 128 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:30.000 it probably had the It was the way that that 129 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:32.439 road was with the gravel and the dirt and the 130 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:35.199 clay and all that stuff, was its left foot was 131 00:07:35.279 --> 00:07:37.680 basically on the clay. 132 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:39.680 The right foot would have been on the gravel. 133 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:43.560 Yeah, and so that means it probably was a twenty 134 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:46.079 inch spread, I guess if I wanted to break it down. 135 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:50.360 And if you'd add the right foot and all that. 136 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:53.480 So that was the first We're like wow, man, because 137 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:56.720 what kind of made me nervous was at that time 138 00:07:56.759 --> 00:08:00.759 we all believed that they were friendly gorillas of some kind, 139 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:05.439 and I was just worried about, Jesus, where's the mom 140 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:06.120 if this thing? 141 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:08.160 Because you didn't see any big tracks. 142 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:11.120 So it was, yeah, my wife and I were looking 143 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:13.480 at that, and we had our at that time, our 144 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:16.920 youngest son was like three, so we're like, let's just 145 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:19.279 get out of here and get back to the you know, 146 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:21.800 the camp we were at that. I mean, we never 147 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:26.160 had any anything happened in the Devil's Backbone ever. It 148 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:28.560 just that was the one and only time. It was 149 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:33.320 the time we broke away from the Will Jevining and 150 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:37.480 his group. She ended up having to take care of 151 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:40.519 her mom for many, many, many years, so we had 152 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:44.159 quit camping all together. We hadn't been in the forest 153 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:48.679 for fifteen or so years, you know. In twenty sixteen 154 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:52.240 we started because her mom had passed away. In twenty fifteen, 155 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:58.120 we decided we would start camping again. So we would 156 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:01.639 we would go up called the eighty one Road, and 157 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:04.960 you go up past Marrow Lake, which we found out 158 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:10.879 is kind of a popular place for Sasquatch sightings, and 159 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:13.679 Cliff Brockman can can back all that up. 160 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:17.360 But we, uh, we were in the lower camps. 161 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:21.120 We didn't know that there were higher camps, and you 162 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:24.679 always had this feeling something was watching you. And then 163 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:27.720 one night something went through stuff in our camp. Could 164 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:29.840 have it could have been a human being. Because there 165 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:35.200 was people out there camping. Uh, but there was beers missing. 166 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:38.519 And back then we smoked a pack of cigarettes was gone, 167 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:41.519 and we're just like, what the heck, you know, And 168 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:45.200 we didn't think for a second it was a sasquatch. 169 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:49.120 I mean, uh, some people since then puld Maybe I 170 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:53.639 don't think they sasquatch smoking cigarettes and drinking our beer. 171 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:57.320 I mean, you never know. Yeah, that's the thing. 172 00:09:57.799 --> 00:09:59.480 I was like, well, you know, I mean he could 173 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:02.840 have drank the beers, but I don't know about lighting 174 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:03.840 a cigarette. 175 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:06.600 But it was at the end of the season. 176 00:10:08.120 --> 00:10:10.519 We had decided to drive further up to eighty one, 177 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:14.240 and we found all these really nice camps, so we 178 00:10:14.320 --> 00:10:18.600 decided we'd camp, you know, for the following year, and 179 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:22.000 we went up there. The big Foot was the last 180 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:25.120 thing on our mind when I when some people are like, 181 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:27.679 why didn't you take pictures of this or that, we 182 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:31.200 weren't looking for sasquatch, When with that first real encounter, 183 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:34.240 that was the furthest thing on our minds. 184 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:41.000 And we had we had extra days off. The company 185 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:43.480 was struggling a little bit, so they gave us extra 186 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:48.679 days off for that holiday weekend that's in September, and 187 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:52.200 so we we had picked out a campsite, but it 188 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:55.320 was further up and somebody was already in it. And 189 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:58.759 this was like Thursday. So as we were. 190 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:01.279 Coming back down, we found another one that was with 191 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:03.720 a creek and all that stuff and off the road, 192 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:07.000 and so we set up all our stuff. And I 193 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:10.200 had a sense of dread when we first pulled in there, 194 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:14.279 and I just tried to ignore it. And we got 195 00:11:14.279 --> 00:11:16.519 it all set up. My wife still had to work, 196 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:19.799 so I decided I'd stay the night and all that 197 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:24.159 she left, and it didn't take maybe fifteen minutes. I 198 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:28.759 was sitting next to the fire and all of a sudden, 199 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:31.879 I hear a foot stomp and I was just like. 200 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:33.200 Oh my god. 201 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:36.720 I immediately I said to myself, maybe it's a nolk, 202 00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:39.559 but I knew, I knew. I mean, I looked down 203 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:42.039 at the ground as I'm sitting there, trying to naturalize, 204 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:43.120 like I know what that is. 205 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:47.200 Do you have any idea how many years had passed 206 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:49.840 since you were doing bigfoot stuff in that moment? 207 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:53.799 Oh my god? When did we go away from Jamming? 208 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:58.080 Oh God, like ninety I think we pulled away from 209 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:01.120 him in ninety three. Or ninety five, so that was 210 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:04.360 the last time we'd ever done anything bigfoot wise. We 211 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:08.720 had camped up until I think two thousand was the 212 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:12.799 last time we camped before she started taking care of 213 00:12:12.840 --> 00:12:13.240 her mom. 214 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:15.240 Wow, yeah, it was. 215 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:20.039 It was quite a We quit doing bigfoot anything when 216 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:25.639 we splintered away from the Pacific Sasquatch coasts. Something he 217 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:30.200 had something from that I don't remember the name. That's 218 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:33.320 how important it is to me now I don't remember. 219 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:36.000 But like a good fifteen to twenty years had passed. 220 00:12:36.559 --> 00:12:40.159 Yeah, oh yeah, a long time. That stomp I made 221 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:40.799 me think about. 222 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:43.159 I mean, it's scared to crap at me because I 223 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:46.360 know that elk stomp and I've been like standing next 224 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:50.399 to buck deer that they're smaller, so I'm just kind 225 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:51.360 of aggravating them. 226 00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:55.759 They're stomping at me and snorting, and this was real heavy. 227 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:58.879 So I just thought to myself, because most of my 228 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:02.120 native family tell you, they know what fire sticks are, 229 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:05.639 and that's would be a gun. They know what bows 230 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:08.440 and arrows are and all that stuff. So I pulled 231 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:12.639 my little revolver out. It was just a thirty two magnum, 232 00:13:12.919 --> 00:13:18.159 pretty rare nowadays. It was an old police bulldog issue 233 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:20.440 and I set that on the table. 234 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:22.559 I made sure that it was out where it could 235 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:22.960 be seen. 236 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:24.759 I actually held it up and I set it on 237 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:27.000 the table that was next to me, and then I 238 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:29.720 pulled my bowie knife and I laid that on the 239 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:33.399 table too, and I just tried to I looked at 240 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:36.879 the fire, and I was just kind of trying to 241 00:13:36.919 --> 00:13:40.759 act natural, and then it's a stomp happened again. So 242 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:44.200 I got up and I grabbed my chair. I did 243 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:46.840 everything as calm as I could. Plus I threw two 244 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:50.159 whole bundles of wood on the fire, and it was 245 00:13:51.039 --> 00:13:54.759 going up pretty high. So I walked over to our tent, 246 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:58.679 which was several yards away. We like to keep our 247 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:03.000 tents way away from the fire. And I sat there 248 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:06.399 for about ten or fifteen minutes until I started feeling 249 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:07.799 like everything would be okay. 250 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:09.879 So I walked back over. 251 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:12.519 There and I sat down and I just cracked open 252 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:16.879 a beer and I heard actual footsteps, like two footsteps, 253 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:20.360 loud and clear, and I just I got up without 254 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:23.320 I just got up again, and I threw all the 255 00:14:23.320 --> 00:14:27.200 wood I had on the fire, which I'm so lucky 256 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:31.120 I didn't start a forest fire. That was easily. 257 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:31.600 I don't know. 258 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:36.799 You know, there's like six split logs in a pack 259 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:39.879 that you buy, and I had thrown seven of those 260 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:43.639 all together on that and the fire was raging. 261 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:48.519 In fact, some of the trees nearby started kind of 262 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:52.600 waving back and forth from the energy of the fire. 263 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:54.679 Were you just trying to light the area up? 264 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:56.279 Yeah? 265 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:02.480 That, and I was hoping to scare them. And so 266 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:05.759 they're not afraid of fire, I can tell you that now. 267 00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:08.960 But I so I went back to the tent and 268 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:13.120 I sat there and something caught the corner of my. 269 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:15.879 Eye scared the crap out of me. 270 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:20.120 I look over and here's a jet black cottontail walked 271 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:22.399 out of that berry where the berries are. 272 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:25.960 And I was just like, it scared the crap out 273 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:26.159 of me. 274 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:31.279 And Doug Hijack told me that when he had his 275 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:37.279 encounter that he also saw a black a wild black cottontail. 276 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:41.000 So I mean, I was just like, really, what a coincidence? 277 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:44.879 It just man, I started my mind started clouding up, 278 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:47.320 you know, being afraid and all that stuff. And I've 279 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:48.200 only taken like. 280 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:50.399 A sip out of that beer and I set it 281 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:53.440 down because I didn't the last thing I wanted to do, 282 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:56.360 is if somebody did pull into our camp and I 283 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:58.440 could get a ride home or get out of there. 284 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:00.399 Is I didn't want to think I was a ring 285 00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:02.600 drunk or something like that. 286 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:06.759 So yeah, I just I just set it on the ground, 287 00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:10.720 and just before it got dark, it was just just 288 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:12.840 getting to the point where you couldn't see very good. 289 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:18.039 I went ahead and got in the tent and our lantern. 290 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:21.240 She was going to bring fuel the next day, so 291 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:25.080 I had like a half of a cylinder and I 292 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:28.279 turned that on and left it outside the tent, just 293 00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:32.080 in the chair, and I laid in there with I 294 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:34.840 didn't put no covers on or nothing, and I was 295 00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:37.320 soaked from the rain would come and then leave. The 296 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:40.840 rain would come and then leave, and I just lay 297 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:43.159 it in there and kind of covered up a little 298 00:16:43.159 --> 00:16:45.639 bit with a blanket and just waited. I had my 299 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:48.240 gun in one hand and I had my knife in 300 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:51.799 the other. And because they started almost as soon as 301 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:54.679 I went in the tent, they started this humming thing. 302 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:59.720 And the closest thing I can see that it is 303 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:02.440 one I got home. After that weekend, I went on 304 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:05.599 line and I was looking up all the different animals 305 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:08.880 and It sounded like that sound that elephants make, but 306 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:11.759 it couldn't have been imps because you can't hear in 307 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:17.119 for sound. But it sounded like that, that whole type 308 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:20.599 of thing. But it just was steady. Some people like 309 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:24.359 Doug Highcheck think that they perr. 310 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:27.839 I don't know. I have no idea. All I know 311 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:32.039 is that it that humming thing. It just didn't stop, 312 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:33.319 and it was I was. 313 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:36.240 In that tent, wet from the rain and also soaking 314 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:40.200 wet from sweat and fear. I just I laid in 315 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:42.359 there and listened to that and listened to that, and 316 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:45.720 I was driving me nuts. But at the same time, 317 00:17:46.279 --> 00:17:50.200 you know, I had to pee, so I just I held. 318 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:52.119 It, and I held it. I held it. It was dark. 319 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:57.839 I finally about I don't know, one or two in 320 00:17:57.880 --> 00:17:59.799 the morning. It's been ten years now. 321 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:04.599 I opened the tent and I was just going to 322 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:07.839 pee out of it, and I look across the camp 323 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:12.160 and there's an orb of a good size. 324 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:13.680 I didn't know it was an orb. 325 00:18:13.799 --> 00:18:17.519 Then it looked like when a kid takes the wand 326 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:21.640 for bubbles and puts it in the big one, the 327 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:24.240 big circle, and then does the thing. 328 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:26.640 This looked like a soap bubble. 329 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:31.039 There was about I don't know, sixteen inches long, and 330 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:34.359 it was like moving like a soap bubble too. 331 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:38.680 Staying in, I did not dropping or going higher. In 332 00:18:38.759 --> 00:18:40.279 a steady motion. 333 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:44.680 About three feet off the ground, I could be through it, 334 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:48.720 but it had this red tin all the way around it, 335 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:51.920 all the way around it, and I could tell it 336 00:18:51.960 --> 00:18:54.400 was alive. I mean, I was just like you could 337 00:18:54.440 --> 00:18:59.200 feel that it was alive. I closed the tent back up, 338 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:04.680 still didn't get to and I kind of yelled, I 339 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:08.119 can't I can't f and handle both of you at 340 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:12.079 the same time because the subsquatch thing was just killing me. 341 00:19:13.039 --> 00:19:15.200 There was nobody up there that you know. 342 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:18.880 I would have literally got out and walked if there 343 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:22.519 was somebody in another camp nearby, but being a Thursday, 344 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:25.160 there was nobody there except higher than me. 345 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:31.839 Yeah, and so I just and I knew the fight 346 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:35.599 or flight thing was completely That's why I just walked 347 00:19:35.720 --> 00:19:38.119 normal to get back to get in the tent to 348 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:46.119 begin with. But yeah, finally, right about man, if I 349 00:19:46.119 --> 00:19:49.279 can remember correctly, somewhere around five something in the morning, 350 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:53.079 it let out a very long. 351 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:57.480 I'm not going to do it because the forest is 352 00:19:57.599 --> 00:20:01.000 right behind me here where we and this I hunt 353 00:20:01.079 --> 00:20:02.400 back there and all that stuff. 354 00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:05.400 So and they are back here. So I'm just not 355 00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:08.039 going to do that call. But it did a call 356 00:20:09.519 --> 00:20:14.720 that it was a very aggressive and ended it whether 357 00:20:14.839 --> 00:20:18.359 you know, this was like sixteen inches sixteen inches sixteen 358 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:23.759 seconds long, and I was just laying in the tent 359 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:27.039 went oh my god. But it ended with a huah. 360 00:20:28.119 --> 00:20:30.480 And that's all I'm going to tell you is that. 361 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:33.200 But I had never heard anything like that in my life. 362 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:35.119 And I thought to myself, and it sounds like a 363 00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:38.680 big man or something. I was like, maybe it's somebody 364 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:41.799 over there screwing with me. But I waited till it 365 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:47.920 was daylight and I got out, and the tension, the 366 00:20:48.039 --> 00:20:51.480 tension when I got out of that that tent with 367 00:20:51.640 --> 00:20:55.240 daylight was just for me. The way I always try 368 00:20:55.279 --> 00:20:57.839 to tell the people is when you're in the same 369 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:01.279 room with somebody and you're working and you cannot stand them, 370 00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:04.839 both of you cannot stand each other. That's what it 371 00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:11.079 felt like. This tension just so thick and and oh 372 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:14.000 my god. I looked down there at that beer. First, 373 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:17.440 I just stood there and peed I was going to 374 00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:20.000 pass out if I didn't pee, and then I looked 375 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:21.960 down at that beer and I picked it up and 376 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:24.960 it was full of like it rained all night, and 377 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:27.079 I just kind of yelled over. I was like, I 378 00:21:27.079 --> 00:21:30.200 don't care, I'm going to drink this beer. And I 379 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:34.119 took like four big swigs. It tasted like water and beer, 380 00:21:34.359 --> 00:21:37.960 you know, yeah, it was, but oh my god, I 381 00:21:38.039 --> 00:21:41.599 drank that thing all the way down. I was just like, oh, 382 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:44.799 but I was soaking wet, and I could smell myself 383 00:21:44.839 --> 00:21:49.279 from the from all the sweating and stuff. So through 384 00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:52.240 the last two bundles of wood I had over the 385 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:55.759 coals and it started up real nice, and I took 386 00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:59.559 my clothes off and I burned them. And I don't 387 00:21:59.559 --> 00:22:02.200 know why, I just I got I'm getting rid of them. 388 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:05.839 And so I went ahead and grabbed some fresh clothes, 389 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:09.920 and I made some water on the fire in a 390 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:12.599 tea kettle, and I kind of I washed my whole 391 00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:15.359 body with it, and then I put clean clothes on 392 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:19.519 because I just I felt just nasty from all that 393 00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:20.599 sweat and stuff. 394 00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:22.599 It's a it's kind of weird. 395 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:27.279 Uh, you feel like you're pinned down like that and 396 00:22:28.519 --> 00:22:31.599 there's really nothing you can do. And and I had 397 00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:36.720 literally that night I had gave sent I put a 398 00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:40.359 message on my phone for my wife to tell her 399 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:42.359 that I thought I was going to die that night. 400 00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:44.920 So I just wanted her to know that I loved 401 00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:48.319