WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.839 AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:07.200 on the iHeartRadio ANPP. 4 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:10.160 Ronald Rowe, the acting Director of the Secret Service, is 5 00:00:10.519 --> 00:00:15.320 discussing the assassination attempt of former President Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, 6 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:17.640 and going through a timeline of exactly what happened on 7 00:00:17.679 --> 00:00:18.160 that that's it. 8 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:21.440 The Secret Service counter sniper teams that local law enforcement 9 00:00:21.559 --> 00:00:24.960 was looking for a suspicious individual outside of the perimeter 10 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:30.079 lurking around the AGR building. At this time, Secret Service 11 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:33.600 personnel were operating with the knowledge that local law enforcement 12 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:35.159 was working on an. 13 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:37.119 Issue of a suspicious individual. 14 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:41.359 The concept of local law enforcement working on such issues 15 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:45.439 is common at sites, and on July thirteenth, there are 16 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:49.880 over one hundred calls for support. At six pm, former 17 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:53.640 President Trump took the stage to begin remarks, and based 18 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:56.240 on what I know right now, neither the Secret Service 19 00:00:56.280 --> 00:00:59.960 counter sniper teams nor members of the former president's security 20 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:02.679 detail had any knowledge that there was a man on 21 00:01:02.719 --> 00:01:04.040 the roof of the AGR. 22 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:05.120 Building with a firearm. 23 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:08.840 It is my understanding that personnel were not aware the 24 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:11.799 assailant had a firearm until they heard gunshots. 25 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:14.920 At six eleven PM. 26 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:18.159 Member of the former President Trump's protective detail contacted their 27 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:21.799 Pittsburgh Field ofvis counterpart to inquire about the radio update 28 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:24.560 that there was an issue local law enforcement was looking 29 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:28.400 into near the perimeter. At six to eleven PM, the 30 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:32.239 assailant's first volley of three shots was fired, and within 31 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:36.280 three seconds, the former President's detail rushed the stage and 32 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:40.000 covered Former President Trump, shielding him with their own bodies. 33 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:43.359 The fourth through way shots took place over the next 34 00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:47.239 several seconds. Fifteen and a half seconds after the assailants 35 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:51.120 first shot, a Secret Service counterstriper fired a single round. 36 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:53.000 That neutralized the assailant. 37 00:01:55.079 --> 00:02:00.280 That concludes a quick brief summary of the timeline, and 38 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:03.959 with that, I'll turn it over to our staff here 39 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:05.719 to begin any questions. 40 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:08.520 You said earlier this week to Congress that you don't 41 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:11.360 want to tip anything on the scale. As far as 42 00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:14.960 discipline a reaction is concerned, I need to ask you, 43 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:18.840 since you testified, has anyone been suspended with or without pay? 44 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:20.719 Has anyone been fired? 45 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:24.800 And will you tell us as people are disciplined along 46 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:26.360 the way, or is this something we're going to need 47 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:29.719 to just constantly be asking or were you update and 48 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:34.080 tell us five people have been fired? Six people, seven people? 49 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:37.520 What can you tell us? Sure, thank you for that question, David, So. 50 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:41.800 As I said in my opening statement, there are going 51 00:02:41.879 --> 00:02:42.199 to be. 52 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:45.240 There's the Mission Assurance review. 53 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:50.520 If that Mission Assurance review is looking into if there 54 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:55.199 are policy violations at that point. Now, if in fact 55 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:58.280 there were policy violations at that point, now it'll go 56 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:03.879 into a parallel path of disciplinary type of investigation. Those 57 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:11.599 are internal investigations that deal with employee matter. So we're 58 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:14.360 not going to be able to provide real time updates 59 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:18.319 or continuously to provide you updates on that. But what 60 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:20.360 I will tell you is that these are very thorough 61 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:24.800 investigations and if in fact there were policy violations and 62 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:26.800 they are substantiated, those. 63 00:03:26.639 --> 00:03:28.400 Employees people want to hear that. 64 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:31.800 I will be able to, at least at a high 65 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:36.680 level begin provide at least some type of statement that 66 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:39.680 people are being accountable, being held accountable. 67 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:43.479 And I appreciate this box digital fans of new video 68 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:45.639 or somebody on the room which we believe is the 69 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:46.639 assailant that. 70 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:50.080 Running back and forth while President Trump was speaking, What 71 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:51.159 do you think when you see that? 72 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:52.560 How did that go? 73 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:53.639 With this timeline here. 74 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:55.680 Yeah, so it it affirms to me. 75 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:58.360 And again and you heard this from the FBI and 76 00:03:58.360 --> 00:04:02.800 they're still conducting interview and looking at this. It even 77 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:05.759 just affirms to me that this was a failure. We 78 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:10.439 should have had better protection for the protectee. We should 79 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:13.400 have had better coverage on that roofline. We should have 80 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:16.560 had at least some other set of eyes from the 81 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:19.439 Secret Service point of view, covering that that building was 82 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:22.639 very close to that outer perimeter, and we should have 83 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:23.800 had more of a presence. 84 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:26.800 And so as far as the. 85 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:30.079 Timeline running of him running back and forth, I know 86 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:33.759 the FBI has provided a bit of a chronology as well, 87 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:36.920 and so I'd have to go back and look at that. 88 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:40.000 But the bottom line is this, David, this was a 89 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:43.560 Secret Service failure. That roof line should have been covered. 90 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:45.319 We should have had better eyes on that. 91 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:49.800 Thanks. 92 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:53.040 You're listening to Ronald Rowe, the acting director of the 93 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:56.639 US Secret Service, and his breakdown of what happened back 94 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.720 on July thirteenth and Butler, Pennsylvania, of course, the assassination 95 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:02.720 on former President Trump, and a couple of quick takeaways. 96 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:08.240 Before we went to him live, he did say something 97 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:10.639 that's been pretty interesting because one of the issues that's 98 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:15.759 been bubbling up is what requirement or what was asked 99 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:18.879 of local law enforcement agents who were on the ground 100 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:22.800 or technically in the building where the shooter was. Remember, 101 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:25.000 there was a sniper team, but it was a local 102 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:29.319 agency sniper team that was in the building where the 103 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:32.800 shooter ended up shooting from, and what kind of response 104 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:37.040 they would have been expected to give. In fact, in 105 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:41.639 his testimony earlier this week, the acting director, remember he 106 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:43.560 held up the poster and said, if they had just 107 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:46.560 looked left out the window, they would have seen this guy. 108 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:50.720 And it sounded as if he was pinning it on 109 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:55.879 those people, on those local law enforcement officers that were there. 110 00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:59.680 The local law enforcement officer said, no, no, no, it should 111 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:01.240 have been you, oh guy. We told you over and 112 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:03.800 over again that there was a suspicious person. So what 113 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:07.560 Acting Director Roe said just a few minutes ago was 114 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:14.240 no local officers should be held responsible for a secret 115 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:17.800 service failure. He used that he used the word failure 116 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:21.160 half a dozen times, a couple of them you heard 117 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:22.680 there just at the end before we got out of that. 118 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:26.560 But he said, no local law enforcement officers should be 119 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:30.959 held responsible for a Secret Service failure and that this 120 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:34.600 was a failure. He in this timeline that he was 121 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:37.560 laying out, said that the Secret Service was told of 122 00:06:37.639 --> 00:06:42.480 a suspicious person at about five forty five, so almost officially, 123 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:46.279 and this is before I'm sorry, this was after local 124 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:47.800 law enforcement had seen this guy. 125 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:51.240 They ran it up the flagpole, they went up the chain. 126 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:54.720 At five forty five was the first time the Secret 127 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:57.079 Service was told that they are working on some sort 128 00:06:57.079 --> 00:07:00.600 of a suspicious person. And of course the shots came 129 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:04.160 at about six eleven, so less than a half an 130 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:09.000 hour later is when the guy started shooting. He also 131 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:12.279 said that the Secret Service would earn back US trust, 132 00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:15.560 which is important because a new poll came out from 133 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:20.160 AP that said only about three in ten Americans are 134 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:23.800 confident that the Secret Service can keep presidential candidates safe 135 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:24.639 from violence. 136 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:25.959 Before the election, we. 137 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:30.480 Were listening to the Secret Service director Acting Director Ronald 138 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:32.759 Rowe and his news conference. He was laying out some 139 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:37.920 more timeline of the July thirteenth assassination attempt on former 140 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:40.319 President Trump, and one of the things that he said 141 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:44.560 right at the beginning was that no local law enforcement 142 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:47.800 should be held responsible for Secret Service failures. And I 143 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:49.199 wanted you to hear it from his mouth. 144 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:52.199 In no way should any state or local agency supporting 145 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:56.399 us in Butler on July thirteenth be held responsible for 146 00:07:56.439 --> 00:07:58.120 a secret service failure. 147 00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:00.519 Which is very different from the gist he gave in 148 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:03.920 his congressional testimony earlier this week, by when he was 149 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:09.759 suggesting that local counter sniper team had this guy right 150 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:12.600 next to them, basically under their noses, had they just 151 00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:15.839 looked left, if you remember, Also, we just got word 152 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:19.759 out of DC, specifically the Democratic National Committee that Kamala 153 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:23.120 Harris has won the votes of enough Democratic Convention delegates 154 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:27.160 to become the party's presidential nominee. So she's now officially 155 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:34.600 the presumptive Democratic nominee. The huge deal that dominated headlines yesterday, 156 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:38.360 of course, was this massive prisoner swap that took place 157 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:42.360 between the United States, several Allied countries, and Russia. Twenty 158 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:45.720 four prisoners changed hands. Of course, you know some of 159 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:50.080 the big names, the Evan Gershkovich, the Paul Wheelands, and 160 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:52.679 of course the Russian hit man who was serving a 161 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:56.440 life sentence in Germany. Joining us to talk more about 162 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:58.440 all of this and some of the details of these 163 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:03.519 negotiations that took place. Washington correspondent Joe Khalil with News Nation, Jill, 164 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:05.000 thanks for taking time for us today. 165 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:07.519 Of course, happy to do it. 166 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:11.279 Hey, I was going through a couple of different versions. 167 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:15.279 You know, different news organizations had put together their sort 168 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:19.320 of inside look or behind the scenes of these negotiations, 169 00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:21.600 and it's pretty amazing. I mean, this is this is 170 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:27.919 movie script style foreign relations, but also the CIA and 171 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:30.879 the FSB and other intelligence agencies are involved. 172 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:33.480 This is pretty crazy. 173 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:36.120 He truly is. And the biggest challenge for me today 174 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:37.519 is that they're trying to get me to tell that 175 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:39.480 story in about two minutes when I think I could, 176 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:42.000 I need about an hour and a half to tell it. 177 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:45.799 But no, from start to finish, we're talking about literally 178 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:50.159 years of diplomacy behind the scenes to try to get 179 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:53.519 these deals done. I think the most amazing part about 180 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:57.879 this whole narrative is how many times it almost failed 181 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:01.639 and the dynamics continue to shift over and over. Let's 182 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:05.120 remember Paul Wheelan is one of the more high profile 183 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:07.600 prisoners who was released yesterday. He had been in six 184 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:11.720 years in prison in Russia behind bars. So while they're 185 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:16.320 negotiating for him, there's discussion that Alexi Navolney, the very 186 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:19.639 famous opposition figure to Putin who had been in prison, 187 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:21.360 that he was going to be a part of this deal. 188 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:25.519 He died or the US State Department very much believes 189 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:28.559 might have been killed in prison. There were thoughts that, okay, 190 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:31.960 that was going to end this deal as they're negotiating 191 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:37.000 for Wheeland. Then Gershkovitz gets arrested in twenty twenty three 192 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:39.840 in March. People thought, okay, now we have to include 193 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:42.559 Gerskovitz in this deal. Does that complicate things? I was 194 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:45.960 tundering one scene that was described, and the Wall Street 195 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:49.039 Journal has an advantage on this obviously they've got sources 196 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:53.279 involved in the story. At Georgetown restaurant is a man 197 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:57.679 named Roger Hartston's who he is going to be one 198 00:10:57.679 --> 00:11:00.399 of the central figures in the movie One Day. Works 199 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:03.000 for the State Department. He's the guy who's in charge 200 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:10.360 of hostage negotiation Bulgarian. Yes, yes, he's meeting one on 201 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:14.919 one with this Bulgarian researcher. This guy has a direct 202 00:11:14.960 --> 00:11:18.080 tie to Putin and they're sitting at this Georgetown restaurant 203 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:22.360 under a fake name reservation writing down on cocktail napkins, 204 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:25.720 names of Russian prisoners who are imprisoned all over the 205 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:30.120 world that might be suitable trades for Gershkovitz and for 206 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:33.279 Wheeland and the others. That's the kind of thing. And 207 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:35.600 then behind the scenes, he had people like Hillary Clinton, 208 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:38.240 who we just found out was in Germany trying to 209 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:41.200 advocate get them to be willing to release their guy. 210 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:44.279 All kinds of stuff like that that led to the 211 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:48.120 amazing deal that we got last night. So people don't 212 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:51.360 like it because they think it may incentivize people like 213 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:55.279 Putin to continue to take prisoners. Certainly that's a fair criticism, 214 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:59.200 but certainly very happy for these families that were reunited 215 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:02.879 after months and years last night, having to go through 216 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:05.720 a kind of hell that most people don't ever have 217 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:06.440 to experience. 218 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:09.399 Where do you come down on the thought that because 219 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:12.840 Joe Biden is not going to be campaigning, that that 220 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:14.759 helped push this along. 221 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:18.759 You know, I'm just not sure what to make of 222 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:22.480 that idea. You know, even up until the moments that 223 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:27.519 he was still the nominee, these negotiations were very much 224 00:12:27.639 --> 00:12:31.600 moving forward and happening. We had heard from some of 225 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:34.639 our sources that this really sort of came together and 226 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:37.320 looked like, you know, it was going to happen toward 227 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:40.799 the end of June. At that point, Joe Biden was 228 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:43.799 still the nominee, so you know, there's going to be 229 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:46.080 a lot of speculation, and I don't blame people for 230 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:48.600 speculating about it. That Okay, now that he got out, 231 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:51.440 it may have had an impact on, you know, Russia's 232 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:54.799 willingness to accept the deal. It's my understanding they were 233 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:58.200 basically giving the US the green light before it was 234 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:00.519 known that Joe Biden was going to drop out, So 235 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:03.840 I'm not sure how much realistically that played a role. 236 00:13:04.279 --> 00:13:07.639 You know, again, this has been an ongoing negotiation for years. 237 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:10.480 You know, maybe we find out something later, but I 238 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:12.120 don't know that I put too much stock into that. 239 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:17.279 Yeah, well again, Joe, this is I do not envy 240 00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:19.559 you trying to cram all of that into a two 241 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:22.039 minute report, but you're going to have to have like 242 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:24.559 a I don't know, flannel graph or some sort of 243 00:13:25.399 --> 00:13:28.039 some sort of a visual aid to help get all 244 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:28.720 of this done. 245 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:32.440 Thanks for your time, Joey, appreciate it, of course, happy 246 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:32.840 to do it. 247 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:36.759 Joe Khalil there again, Washington correspondent for NewsNation about this 248 00:13:36.799 --> 00:13:39.759 prisoner swap Democrats have made it official. Now there are 249 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:43.159 enough Democratic Convention delegates who have thrown their support behind 250 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.840 Vice President Harris that she is the party's expected presidential nominee. 251 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:51.679 Of course, the convention starts August nineteenth in Chicago. Job 252 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:54.799 growth in the United States slowed much more than was 253 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:57.320 expected in the month of July, just one hundred and 254 00:13:57.320 --> 00:14:00.320 fourteen thousand new jobs in the month, way down from 255 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:02.919 what was estimated at about one hundred and eighty five thousand. 256 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:05.879 The unemployment rate goes up to four point three percent. 257 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:08.519 That has been one of the reasons why the Dow 258 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:12.279 Jones Industrial average has been down almost eight hundred points 259 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:16.120 for most of the day Today, the Department of Justice 260 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:19.559 is suing TikTok and its parent company byte Dance for 261 00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:25.039 allegedly violating children's online privacy. The Department of Justice is 262 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:28.360 accusing TikTok of allowing kids under the age of thirteen 263 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:31.279 to create accounts, collect data on those kids, and then 264 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:34.679 failing to comply with parents' requests to delete the accounts 265 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:39.080 and information. According to this lawsuit, the actions by TikTok 266 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:43.200 would violate the law from a couple of years ago 267 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:47.039 called the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act, as well as 268 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:51.039 a settlement agreement from twenty nineteen with an app that 269 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:54.919 was known as Musically according to According to this lawsuit, 270 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:58.399 Secret Service is holding a news conference right now in 271 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:01.879 which the Acting Director of the Secret Service, Ronald Rowe, said, 272 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:04.919 in no way should local law enforcement be held responsible 273 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:07.399 for a Secret Service failure. Of course, he's referring to 274 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:12.600 the assassination attempt from Butler, Pennsylvania, but basically said that 275 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:16.200 there were communication breakdowns and all of that rests with 276 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:18.840 the Secret Service, that they are the ones who have 277 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:23.399 ultimate responsibility for protecting, in this case, a former president 278 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:27.360 and presidential candidate of the United States. So tonight Dodgers 279 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:29.159 are in Oakland to take on the A's first pitch 280 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:31.000 is going to be six forty. You can listen to 281 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:33.559 every play of every Dodgers game on AM five seventy 282 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:36.279 LA Sports Live from the Galvin Motors Broadcast booth, and 283 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:39.360 stream all the games INHD on the iHeartRadio app. Used 284 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:43.240 that keyword AM five seventy LA Sports. Don't forget it's Friday, 285 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:45.080 so we're going to do what you learned this week 286 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:46.320 on the Gary and Channon Show. 287 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:48.559 If you listen on the iHeart app. 288 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:51.679 Just go to the talkback feature, which is that little 289 00:15:51.720 --> 00:15:54.879 microphone button. You just boop hit that button and record 290 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:56.720 a quick message that comes into the computer. 291 00:15:56.759 --> 00:15:56.960 Here. 292 00:15:57.720 --> 00:15:59.799 It seems like it's been a couple of years now, 293 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:04.799 but we have been talking about the dangers of smartphones, 294 00:16:04.919 --> 00:16:09.320 specifically for kids in school. It was a couple of 295 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:12.960 days ago I referred to a study that showed that 296 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:18.440 suicide rates specifically among girls, and I mean young girls 297 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:22.039 between the ages of eight and twelve, have grown drastically 298 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:27.360 over the course of the last fifteen years. Well, the 299 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:31.559 iPhone was invented in two thousand and seven, and by 300 00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:34.879 two thousand and nine a whole lot of people had 301 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:40.600 smartphones and social media accounts. And I tend to believe 302 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:43.720 that the two of those together are a very very 303 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:50.559 dangerous combination. And then if you look specifically at teachers, administrators, counselors, 304 00:16:50.559 --> 00:16:54.759 et cetera in schools, they say that these phones and 305 00:16:54.840 --> 00:17:00.080 social media connected are having an incredibly negative impact on 306 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:03.919 on kids and their mental health. I've referred to it 307 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:07.079 many times now, this book by doctor Jonathan Hate, The 308 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:11.559 Anxious Generation, discussing all of the impacts that even though 309 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:14.160 there are not a lot of studies or not a 310 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:18.000 lot of ways to directly connect smartphones, social media, and 311 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:22.519 kids and their attitude towards each other, their attitudes towards themselves, 312 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:28.240 their attitudes towards whatever physical fitness, their friends, suicide, All 313 00:17:28.279 --> 00:17:34.920 of these things heavily impacted by them. The evidence that exists, 314 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:40.440 all of it points to points to social media and smartphones. 315 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:46.119 And I love doing these stories when school districts ban 316 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:49.279 the phones or curb the use of phones during school 317 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:52.599 hours and then see positive impacts. The latest comes to 318 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:57.319 us from East Jackson High School out of Michigan. According 319 00:17:57.359 --> 00:18:00.680 to the principle, at East Jackson High School, engagement is 320 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:03.920 up and drama is down exponentially. 321 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:04.960 Those are his words. 322 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:07.480 He said, when you take away the compulsion to address 323 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:11.799 snapchat and TikTok, kids find themselves having to concentrate and 324 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:15.079 participate in some of these debates in a classroom. Students, 325 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:21.680 staff and parents have appreciated it. And again the principle says, 326 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:24.440 I don't think people fully understand the amount of behavioral 327 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:26.960 issues that began with a snapchat. If you take that 328 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:30.880 out of the classroom, a lot of drama goes away. 329 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:34.160 He was concerned, he said, especially if you come off 330 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:36.640 of a summer break, where I bet screen time for 331 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:39.440 some of these kids is in the eight to twelve 332 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:40.240 hour range. 333 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:42.599 That's mind blowing. 334 00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:45.440 But he said he was a little bit worried about 335 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:49.000 telling incoming students that they're not going to have their 336 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:53.440 phone on their person. But when he set out notices 337 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:57.079 to all of the incoming freshmen and the returning students, etc. 338 00:18:58.319 --> 00:19:00.240 That they were not going to be allowed to have 339 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:03.119 their phone in the classrooms, they're going to have to 340 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:06.119 lock them up in their lockers during the school year, 341 00:19:06.519 --> 00:19:11.599 he said it was amazing. Parents and students sent him 342 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:16.119 emails saying, I think it's a great idea. The band 343 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:19.799 phones at the high school followed a two year trial 344 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:22.880 at the Jackson Middle School, the East Jackson Middle School 345 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:24.799 that they said was sort of a litmus test. Maybe 346 00:19:24.839 --> 00:19:26.920 it's just to get kids used to it, and said 347 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:29.519 officials are now encouraging other schools and districts in the 348 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:33.519 area to consider doing the exact same thing. Lawmakers in 349 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:36.960 some states have considered whether to implement state wide cell 350 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:39.960 phone bands. We're looking at one here in California. Obviously, 351 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:42.759 we did this story about how La Unified, the second 352 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:45.519 largest school district in the country, is looking at a 353 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:48.880 band to start early next year because they know it 354 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:52.160 would improve student learning and they know it would reduce 355 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:56.960 behavioral problems. Through mid June, the last time we kind 356 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:00.920 of checked on this, Indiana, Florida, and Ohio have banned 357 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:04.960 cell phones in schools statewide. Other states are looking at 358 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:08.359 it New York, Oklahoma, Missouri, et cetera. But when you 359 00:20:08.400 --> 00:20:15.240 look at during all of this, about forty two percent 360 00:20:16.319 --> 00:20:19.880 of say fourth graders are proficient in reading in the 361 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:22.200 state of Michigan, where again where this high school is, 362 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:28.599 and that's about sixteen percent for black third graders, more 363 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:32.160 than ten percent behind students still learning English at twenty 364 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:35.039 six point four percent, and at the current pace, they said, 365 00:20:35.079 --> 00:20:39.279 students could get back into pre pandemic proficiency when it 366 00:20:39.279 --> 00:20:41.279 comes to reading. And one of the things that they 367 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:46.079 want to do is remove the phones from schools to 368 00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:52.480 put an emphasis back on learning and simple social interaction, 369 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:58.079 simple down to earth, face to face social interaction. A 370 00:20:58.119 --> 00:21:02.039 proposal for a state wide ban in Michigan is not 371 00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:08.480 being accepted by everyone, though One of the Republican state representatives, 372 00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:11.640 Brad Pasquett, says It's one of the worst ideas we 373 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:14.240 could come up with as legislators because it's a cultural 374 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:16.000 learning issue where kids are going to have to learn 375 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:17.839 how to deal with these distractors at. 376 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:19.440 Some point in their life. 377 00:21:19.519 --> 00:21:22.680 No lawmaker, at least not in Michigan yet has proposed 378 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:25.279 a state wide school band in the current session. Parents 379 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:28.079 have mixed feelings. I understand because there's a concern of 380 00:21:28.119 --> 00:21:31.359 being in touch with your kid during an emergency situation, 381 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:33.279 and I've talked about it many times before. 382 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:34.799 There's ways to get around that. 383 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:37.440 You can give your kid a phone that doesn't have 384 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:40.160 access to social media and you can still stay in 385 00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:46.319 contact with them. Regular teacher mother of two says teenagers 386 00:21:46.359 --> 00:21:49.200 do not make the smartest decisions about cell phones. They're 387 00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:52.000 using it as a distraction device like adults do. The 388 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:55.240 difference is they don't have the self control to say 389 00:21:56.000 --> 00:22:01.079 or the self awareness to say, this is affecting my work. 390 00:22:01.279 --> 00:22:03.400 I need to put it down like an adulthood and 391 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:06.680 even adults, come on, be serious. Even adults have a 392 00:22:06.680 --> 00:22:11.000 hard time doing that. Terror and the sky's coming up also, 393 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:13.240 of course, our trending stories, we check in with Jason 394 00:22:13.319 --> 00:22:15.839 Nathanson about some entertainment stuff for the weekend, The nine 395 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:18.279 Newsnugger You need to Know, and what you learned on 396 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:19.960 the Gary and Channon Show Still to Come. 397 00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:22.240 Deborah Mark is live in the KFI twenty four hour 398 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:23.440 news room. A man from Long. 399 00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:25.680 Beach has pleaded guilty for his role in a two 400 00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:28.200 point six million dollars smash and grab at a jewelry 401 00:22:28.240 --> 00:22:31.039