WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:04.799 This is a podcast from WOOR. It is the Jesse 2 00:00:05.080 --> 00:00:13.880 Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a Wednesday, and 3 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:18.800 oh boy, what a Wednesday. It has been the amount 4 00:00:18.839 --> 00:00:21.679 of news that has dropped in the last twenty four 5 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:26.760 hours about the incoming Trump administration, the new Senate leader. Ah, 6 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:29.640 that is just it's going to be difficult to pack 7 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:32.320 all this into the next three hours of The Jesse 8 00:00:32.479 --> 00:00:35.840 Kelly Show, but we will do it. So that's what 9 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:38.039 we have on tap for tonight. I'm going to address 10 00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:40.200 these things. I'll tell you what. I'm gonna address these 11 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:42.119 things in order. I'm gonna give it to you right now. 12 00:00:42.159 --> 00:00:44.159 How long I'm gonna take on each one, I don't know. 13 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:48.039 But we are going to talk first and foremost about 14 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:52.200 Pete hag Seth being potentially Secretary of Defense. Remember all 15 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:55.000 these are potential until they're confirmed by the Senate. Then 16 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:59.679 we're gonna talk about Matt Gates. Donald Trump appoints Congressman Well, 17 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:01.799 I don't know what you want to say, puts up 18 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:04.760 Congressman Matt Gates up to be the next day g 19 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:08.879 again banking on a Senate process. And then Taulca Gabbert 20 00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:12.799 for Director of National Intelligence. We will get to a 21 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:15.560 little bit of the Senate leadership race. That ship has 22 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:17.599 kind of already sailed. We'll get to that. 23 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:18.200 We will. 24 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:21.879 We'll talk about the evils of the Biden administration and 25 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:25.760 what they did DEI wise, what the future is. First, 26 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:29.000 I do think before we go any further and we 27 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:32.079 dig into this Secretary of Defense thing, a lot of 28 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:33.680 you love this stuff, a lot of you hate it. 29 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:36.519 I do think we should do something that's really, really, 30 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:40.400 really important. Let's make sure we're always keeping the most 31 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:47.640 important thing first. And the most important thing is acknowledging 32 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:53.400 and praising me when I call things ahead of time, 33 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:58.239 as only an oracle can do. You see what, Chris, 34 00:01:58.319 --> 00:01:59.959 it's fine, Chris, it's fine. 35 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:00.519 Don't quit. 36 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:07.640 You see back in February of this year. February of 37 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:14.000 this year, that's almost a year ago. This guy, Jesse Kelly, 38 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:19.120 who might be an oracle, he said this, the list 39 00:02:19.159 --> 00:02:21.400 of potential replacements is really bad. 40 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:22.360 It is. 41 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:27.840 Yes, there is a chance a more conservative upstart like 42 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:31.759 Rick Scott can mount some sort of a revolution within 43 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:35.080 the Senate GOP and maybe takeover. That's probably about the 44 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:38.280 best we could hope for. But the truth is, there 45 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:41.199 have been a couple guys who've been gunning for this 46 00:02:41.319 --> 00:02:44.960 leadership spot for a long time, sucking up to Mitch McConnell, 47 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:48.400 proving to the DC swamp that their team players, of course, 48 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:51.159 that they all play ball. And those two names are 49 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:57.000 John Cornyn, he's much less likely, and John Thune, John Thune, 50 00:02:57.599 --> 00:03:01.919 john Thune from the blood red state. John Thune, who 51 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:03.800 should have been primary forever ago. 52 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:05.680 But of course he's handsome and speaks. 53 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:09.479 Very well on TV, so the moron GOP primary voter 54 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:12.400 goes out and votes for him every time. John Thune's 55 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:16.319 probably going to be our next Senate minority or majority leader. 56 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:19.599 Ah, almost a year ago. 57 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:22.159 Feels good to be Chris. Is there anything you'd like 58 00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:23.800 to say before we get into the rest of the 59 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:27.240 show to me or I hate my job? Is not 60 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:29.520 what I was looking for, Chris? Do you have anything 61 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:32.560 any way to acknowledge your hero anyway? Let's set that 62 00:03:32.680 --> 00:03:35.800 aside and let's talk about good things. Pete Hank Seth, 63 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:40.319 Matt Gates, Taulsey Gabbard. Let's talk about first Let's let's 64 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:44.000 set the table, shall we, and let's talk about disruptors. 65 00:03:45.159 --> 00:03:48.360 Have you ever have you ever seen anything about these 66 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:54.199 civilian boot camps. I'll tell you I actually went through. 67 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:57.240 I was talking to a guy about this recently. In fact, 68 00:03:58.039 --> 00:03:59.960 the last fish and trip I did with my dad. 69 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:01.520 Do you remember I told you we went fishing the 70 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:05.319 day before he died. We actually got a guide to 71 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:08.439 help us get into some redfish. Now, not a fancy 72 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:11.560 guide here again, just the local guy's Louisiana guy, a 73 00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:12.599 guy we already knew. 74 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:13.280 Hey, give you. 75 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:15.240 Cup hundred bucks, get us out there, get us in 76 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:17.519 us some red fish. Let the kids get some red fish. Anyways, 77 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:19.639 great dude, But we're out there, and we're friends with 78 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:21.759 this guy. So we're out there, we're just gabbing about life, 79 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:27.319 and he started talking about one of his sons. One 80 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:30.199 of his sons lost his mind. Really, I don't mean 81 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:34.959 lost his mind, lost his mind, but his kid hit 82 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:38.879 his sixteen seventeen year old years and really really lost 83 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:43.720 his way, started abusing booze, running around with the wrong crowd, 84 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:47.879 getting super defiant at home. Grades fell Off went from 85 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:50.879 being an elite athlete to a bum. He just was 86 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:54.399 really blowing his life up as young men are wont 87 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:57.079 to do, and was turning into a disaster. And then 88 00:04:57.120 --> 00:04:59.000 one night, believe me, all this is going coming back 89 00:04:59.040 --> 00:04:59.480 to politics. 90 00:04:59.519 --> 00:04:59.959 Stay with me. 91 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:03.360 One night, he steps up to his father. He was 92 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:06.199 back talking his mom. His dad stepped in and said, 93 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:08.160 don't you talk to your mom like that? And he 94 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:10.399 bows up to his father and threatens to beat up 95 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:12.839 his dad puts a finger in his chest. Okay, so 96 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:17.360 crisis situation in the family, right, crisis situation, you should note. 97 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:18.040 Quick side note. 98 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:20.040 I went home and promptly told my sons if they 99 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:21.959 ever stick a finger in my chest to talk back 100 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:23.800 to their mother, no one will ever see them again. 101 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:25.519 So they are very very clear on how that works 102 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:26.079 in my house. 103 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:30.360 All that aside, that family operated a little differently, and 104 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:32.480 they were in a crisis. They didn't want their boy 105 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:33.480 to lose his mind. 106 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:35.160 What do you do? 107 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:39.279 Where do you go? Where do you turn? They decided 108 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:42.800 on a boot camp, not a military boot. 109 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:43.279 Camp per se. 110 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.920 But I'm sure you've seen these behavioral boot camps, I 111 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:50.720 guess I'll put it that way. That are always run 112 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:56.000 by former military guys, and they're a living hell on 113 00:05:56.199 --> 00:05:58.480 the troubled young men and women. This is for young 114 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:01.279 boys and girls, oftentimes who got in trouble with the law. 115 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:01.920 Or whatnot. 116 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:05.879 You take a troubled youth and you yank them out 117 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:08.959 of their environment, and you put them through hell, the 118 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:13.160 hell of boot camp, and they come out the other end, 119 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:18.040 not always, but oftentimes completely turned around. It is, by 120 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:19.639 the way, you should know. I'll go and spoil the 121 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:22.399 end of this guy's story. His son straight A's he 122 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:25.480 lead athlete again, on his way to college. Girlfriend he's 123 00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:28.879 going to marry, doesn't disrespect his parents. Boom, night and day. 124 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:34.439 So what did that look like? Well, three in the 125 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:39.160 morning one night, Dad goes to the front door, unlocks it, 126 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:43.439 and opens up the door for two very very loud, 127 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:49.519 very large, very frightening men who stormed into his son's room, 128 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:54.399 kicked in his door at three am, screamed at him 129 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:57.639 to the point he was shaking in his underwear. They 130 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:00.079 thought he was going to pee himself and then and 131 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:02.879 they dragged him out of that house in the middle 132 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:04.879 of the night, threw him in the back of a 133 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:08.360 truck and carted him off to a living hell of 134 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:12.759 boot camp, where he was screamed at, worked out where 135 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:16.399 he was cleaning toilets with toothbrushes, you know that old 136 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:22.879 boot camp stuff. His life was made a living hell, 137 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:26.120 and on the back end of that, his life was 138 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:33.040 turned around. In order to change the direction of people, 139 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:39.600 of organizations, of nations that are on a bad path, 140 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:48.160 oftentimes a disruptor is necessary. And the problem we have 141 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:51.120 and the problem we are going to have now as 142 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:55.040 we try to write this ship as a country is 143 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:57.839 we want we want the change right. We want things 144 00:07:57.879 --> 00:08:00.680 to turn around. I want the military to do better. 145 00:08:00.720 --> 00:08:02.319 I want them to be like they used to be. 146 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:04.959 I want the intelligence community to be like they used 147 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:08.279 to be. I want the Justice Department to turn things around. Jesse, 148 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:10.839 I'm with you. I want to write the ship. 149 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:14.920 Only I want to I want to do it politely. 150 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:17.439 Oh oh, not with him. 151 00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:18.480 Ooh he's icky. 152 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:22.839 Oh not not that guy. No, that guy hasn't he 153 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:26.519 has a tattoo. Oh gosh, this guy. Ooh he's got 154 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:30.160 a criminal record. This guy. No, we can't use that guy. 155 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:34.360 He's too obnoxious. Oh, Jesse, not him, not him, not him? 156 00:08:34.480 --> 00:08:39.200 Oh wait, not him. We want the disruptor to fix things, 157 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:43.519 but we don't want the disruptor to disrupt. You don't 158 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:47.720 change the young man's life. You don't change it forever. 159 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:51.240 You don't improve it forever. Politely. You don't do it 160 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:53.720 by doing the things you've always done. You don't do 161 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:56.159 it by pouring him an extra bowl of Captain crunch 162 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:59.320 possibly with crunchberries in the morning. If you want to 163 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:02.919 change your life, the life of your child, if you 164 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:06.759 need to radically change the path you are on, then 165 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:14.279 you are going to need a disruption that is uncomfortable, uncomfortable. 166 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:18.960 It is time for you and me to get comfortable 167 00:09:19.080 --> 00:09:22.799 being uncomfortable when it comes to Pete Hegseth. And I'm 168 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:25.240 going to begin there when it comes to Pete hegg Seth. 169 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:27.320 You have all these people they're looking at it. Wait 170 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:30.480 a minute. He was just a major. He wasn't even 171 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:33.159 a general. He was on Fox News on the weekend. 172 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:36.440 He wasn't this. He wasn't that. We need somebody who 173 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:39.159 knows Jesse. He doesn't know what he's doing, Jesse. He 174 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:42.360 doesn't have the experience. You know who has had the experience. 175 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:44.200 You know who was a general. You know who was 176 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:47.480 an amirl. Every single weapons grade loser who's destroyed the 177 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:50.480 United States military for the last thirty forty years, they've 178 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:52.759 all been generals. They've all been aberls, They've all been 179 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:55.440 in the defense industry. They've all been overund Washington forever. 180 00:09:55.559 --> 00:10:00.000 They all knew what they were doing. So do you 181 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:08.240 want change, radical change? Well, radical change disruption is going 182 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:11.600 to be uncomfortable and we're going to dig into a 183 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:14.000 lot of that. In fact, that'll be the show tonight 184 00:10:14.440 --> 00:10:17.159 on the world famous Jesse Kelly Show. That and me 185 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:21.000 bragging about myself. Thune, who should have been primary forever ago, 186 00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:23.440 but of course he's handsome and speaks very well on TV. 187 00:10:23.879 --> 00:10:27.399 John Thune's probably going to be our next Senate minority 188 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:30.399 or majority leader. What Chris, I just wanted to play 189 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:32.879 it one more time, just one more time. That's probably 190 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:35.480 going to be the last time, Chris. If you're looking 191 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:40.440 for relief, though, maybe try Relief Factor. Chris, I don't know. 192 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:44.320 Look Relief Factor. I love it because it's one hundred 193 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:48.960 percent drug free. It works on joint pain and muscle pain, 194 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:50.440 you know, your back. I don't know if it can 195 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:53.559 work on the emotional pain that you're going through right now, Chris. 196 00:10:53.559 --> 00:10:56.759 I just don't think that's the special design. But Relief 197 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:59.279 Factor will work for any physical pain that may come 198 00:10:59.399 --> 00:10:59.879 from all this. 199 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:01.720 If you've been slamming. 200 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:03.679 Your head against the desk because you're frustrated by your 201 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:07.759 work environment. Try relief Factor. You may get some head 202 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:12.240 pain relief. And for everyone who's not Chris, do you 203 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:14.039 have pain in your life? Does your back hurt when 204 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:17.320 you wake up? Is that neck a constant bother? You? 205 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:21.799 Rubbing your hands your feet hurt? You don't have to 206 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:24.519 live like that, you don't have to ignore it, and 207 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:26.600 you don't have to take harmful things to mask it. 208 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:31.240 Try relief Factor for three weeks. Nineteen ninety five is 209 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:33.879 all it cost for three weeks and tell me how 210 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:37.600 you feel one eight hundred the number four relief or 211 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:39.240 go to relief factor dot com. 212 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:40.000 We'll be back. 213 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:45.399 Mark Simon tomorrow from tentil It is the Jesse Kelly 214 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:50.120 Show on a Wednesday and Incredible Wednesday, reminding you that 215 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:53.240 it's hooke Day and you can email the show Jesse 216 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:57.799 at jessekellyshow dot com. You can also leave us a 217 00:11:57.879 --> 00:12:02.399 voicemail eight seven seven threes seven seven three seven to three. 218 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:05.279 Now let's address these things in order again. This is 219 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:07.879 going to be the order of business. Pete hag Seth, 220 00:12:08.559 --> 00:12:12.480 Matt Gates for ag Taulsea Gabber DNI. But let's deal 221 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:16.440 with Pete hagg Seth first and foremost, because Trump announced 222 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:20.759 him last night. He wants Pete to head up the 223 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:24.840 Defense Department Secretary of Defense. Big cheese, the big cheese. 224 00:12:25.639 --> 00:12:29.000 So let's discuss what has happened to the United States military. 225 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:34.159 This has taken a long time. Yes, the Biden administration 226 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:38.080 put all the problems I'm about to lay out in overdrive. 227 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:40.879 But this has taken a long time for us to 228 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:46.360 get where we are. The United States military over the 229 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:51.919 decades ceased becoming about something that was protecting the country 230 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:57.039 and started becoming something that was all about protecting the military, 231 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:02.000 namely the generals in ab rules, the big shots who 232 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:05.440 make the choices. A lot of this trace is clear 233 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:07.399 back to what you know what, let's do. Let's do 234 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:09.679 a big rewind on this shall we we have time. 235 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:11.960 I know you like to dig a little deeper into 236 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:15.279 things like I do. Let's go back to World War Two. 237 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:17.960 That just stay with me here, Let's take a little bit. 238 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:18.480 Stay with me. 239 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:23.960 Before World War Two, the United States military was very, very, 240 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:26.320 very small, which is exactly what it should be. It's 241 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:29.279 exactly what the founders wanted. They understood we needed a 242 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:32.320 strong navy, because of our position on the globe. But 243 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:34.919 as far as a standing army goes, it should be small. 244 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:39.240 You should have a strong nco Corps that is ready 245 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:42.240 to train people up at a moment's notice. World War 246 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:46.879 two breaks out, Oh we throw things into overdrive and boom, 247 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:51.720 we start churning out this incredible, incredible military. But something 248 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:54.480 else happened during the course of World War two. You know, 249 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:57.240 the arsenal of the world, the arsenal of democracy. All 250 00:13:57.279 --> 00:14:01.559 that stuff is amazingly true. The United States of America. 251 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:06.440 We turned to our incredible economy, our incredible manufacturing base, 252 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:10.840 and we turned it into a military factory. We had 253 00:14:10.879 --> 00:14:14.799 auto plants, making tanks and planes. We simply turned to 254 00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:18.320 our economy and said, you're in a wartime footing, now 255 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:21.679 go And they did their jobs well, and we should 256 00:14:21.759 --> 00:14:25.120 be proud and honestly amazed by what we accomplished back 257 00:14:25.159 --> 00:14:31.159 then as a nation. However, something happened. Eisenhower himself saw 258 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:34.840 it happening. Something happened. There's a yin and a yang 259 00:14:34.879 --> 00:14:37.200 to things, right, a good and a bad, a cause 260 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:42.320 and effect. What happened during that time is a lot 261 00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:47.279 of private sector companies and big shots in the military 262 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:54.600 figured out that war is really good business. It involves 263 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:58.120 hoovering up a lot of money for yourself. You know 264 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:01.120 what's better if you're forward the people going out there 265 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:04.600 and buying model ts. What's better is the United States 266 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:09.440 government writing you large taxpayer back checks to make planes 267 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:13.039 and trains and automobiles. Okay, not the automobiles. I was 268 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:14.559 going off the movie, but you get what I mean. 269 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:17.360 It's a lot easier money, and there's a lot more 270 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:21.360 of it. And post World War Two, we started to 271 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:24.759 reduce the size of our military and mass again, but 272 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:28.600 the private sector and the military people never really lost 273 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:32.919 sight of the fact that war it's a lot of fun, 274 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:35.360 especially when you're not one of the ones being shot at. 275 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:38.080 War's a blest when you're a general in the rear 276 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:42.559 with the gear, when you're a mogul boeing raytheon. War 277 00:15:42.679 --> 00:15:47.000 is a grand old time. Then Korea kicks off, and 278 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:50.039 because we had reduced our military again, we once again 279 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:53.440 had to ramp it back up quickly. And remember we 280 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:57.879 had marines on a boat on the way to Korea, 281 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:00.840 on a way to fight in Korea. We had marines 282 00:16:01.039 --> 00:16:04.480 on a boat finishing boot camp. We were so short 283 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:09.399 on men. They're grabbing marine recruiting classes and finishing boot camp. 284 00:16:09.200 --> 00:16:11.480 On a boat. Gosh, that just suck. 285 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:15.799 Anyway, That's how it shortchanged we were. And then we 286 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:18.679 watched half a million Chinese for over the border and 287 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:22.399 now we have cold war stuff. And after that we 288 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:24.440 looked around as a country and said, hey, you know what, 289 00:16:24.679 --> 00:16:27.360 this whole reducing the size of the military thing, we 290 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:28.879 got a slow way down on that. 291 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:30.399 Clearly, we need to be. 292 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:34.240 Cutting edge and we need to be ready to go 293 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:39.879 anywhere anytime. It was really Korea world War two in Korea, 294 00:16:39.960 --> 00:16:43.039 that was really the seed change for United States of 295 00:16:43.039 --> 00:16:47.240 America to change its foreign policy from being very hands 296 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:51.240 off you do what you do into instantly, Hey. 297 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:52.799 We need to be able to be anywhere. 298 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:55.480 If we have to be in Madagascar or Korea, or 299 00:16:55.480 --> 00:16:57.960 the Soviet Union or Antarctica, we need to be able 300 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:00.559 to be anywhere anytime and fight a huge war. Totally 301 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:05.559 changed our mentality there. And guys like I mentioned Eisenhower, 302 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:09.559 who would know saw this coming. That's why he gave 303 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:13.039 that infamous, infamous speech. I would ask you to go 304 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:17.759 listen to it yourself about what's known as the military 305 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:22.799 industrial complex, and what that pretty much is, it is 306 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:30.720 an industry. It's not defense. It's become an industry unto itself. 307 00:17:31.799 --> 00:17:33.920 If you're at the Pentagon, if you're a general, if 308 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:37.240 you're an admiral, if you're a flag officer, you don't 309 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:39.480 put your son in harms way. For the most part, 310 00:17:39.640 --> 00:17:42.359 you yourself will never be in harm's way. You're a 311 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:46.079 civilian with a better looking uniform, and war is good 312 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:48.839 for you. You get a new command here, a new 313 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:52.200 command there. If you're a huge defense contractor, war is 314 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:56.920 amazing for you. If you're a politician, especially a Republican 315 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:00.640 politician over the years, but this applies to all of them, 316 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:05.839 you look super patriotic standing in front of the troops 317 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:09.119 and sending them into combat. This is not unique to America. 318 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:12.960 Unpopular politicians throughout history have gone to war because the 319 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:16.119 nation gets whipped up with patriotic fury, and then off 320 00:18:16.119 --> 00:18:19.480 the war you go and your popularity numbers sore. War's 321 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:23.039 been amazing for all these types, but it hasn't been 322 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:25.920 amazing for you the taxpayer, and it hasn't been amazing 323 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:28.200 for the men on the ground, and it hasn't been 324 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:30.000 amazing for the defense of this country. 325 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:32.319 I'll continue in a second hang. 326 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:37.599 On John Thune, who should have been primary forever ago. 327 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:40.119 But of course he's handsome and speaks very well on TV. 328 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:44.279 John Thune's probably going to be our next Senate minority 329 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:45.440 or majority leader. 330 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:47.480 That was me from back in February. 331 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:49.319 I don't know if i've played you played that for 332 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:51.039 you yet on the show, but that was me being 333 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:54.160 right back in February. Anyway, Stop, we'll get to that 334 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:56.359 in a while. Right now, we're talking about Pete hag Seth. 335 00:18:56.519 --> 00:18:59.640 We're doing a little backstory on the United States military 336 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:02.720 and what eventually happened to it. So we were talking 337 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:05.759 about the military, how it eventually became bloated, how it 338 00:19:05.799 --> 00:19:09.960 eventually became an industry unto itself, with the politicians working 339 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:12.720 with the defense contractors who were working with the generals, 340 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:16.480 and it just becomes one large club. And what they're 341 00:19:16.519 --> 00:19:20.799 doing is bloodsucking your tax dollars, promoting each other, paying 342 00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:23.720 each other, having a blast on the world stage. In 343 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:28.200 the meantime, you're not any safer, only you are a 344 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:32.839 whole lot poorer. Now Vietnam comes along. I went over 345 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:37.079 the World War two Korean War thing Vietnam represented a 346 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:41.599 completely different change that was equally, if not the most 347 00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:48.680 devastating thing we have seen in Vietnam. Vietnam it changed 348 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:54.480 how the officer corps handled each other. It changed how 349 00:19:54.599 --> 00:19:59.640 colonels and generals and admirals handled each other. One thing, 350 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:02.680 if you ever read any books on World War Two, 351 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:05.599 the documentaries won't generally be that good at this. I'm 352 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:07.200 sure there are a good podcasts for it. But if 353 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:10.759 you read World War two books, whatever campaign it may be, 354 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:13.480 for Europe or Normandy or Italy or the Pacific or 355 00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:16.319 any of those things, one thing that will hit you 356 00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:21.599 hard is how often the commander was relieved of duty, 357 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:27.799 and relieved was about as good as you could hope 358 00:20:27.799 --> 00:20:32.039 for lots of the time. Oftentimes these guys were court martialed, 359 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:37.480 publicly humiliated. Go look what they did to the big 360 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:42.519 cheese at Pearl Harbor. That they will destroy your career 361 00:20:43.079 --> 00:20:47.359 and your reputation if you, as a commander fail, and 362 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:50.000 sometimes it doesn't even have to be your fault. And 363 00:20:50.039 --> 00:20:53.000 that was not unique to our military. The history of 364 00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:56.359 the world was oftentimes like that. And Rome, if you 365 00:20:56.440 --> 00:21:00.160 screwed up bad enough, they'll flat out kill you. You'll go back, 366 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:02.160 you'll have a quick trial and they'll just kill you 367 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:02.880 right there, is it? 368 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:05.079 Sorry? General, not acceptable? 369 00:21:05.279 --> 00:21:10.880 Gone dead? And in Vietnam, for a variety of reasons, 370 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:16.000 that's when that changed. That's when the officer corps, all 371 00:21:16.039 --> 00:21:19.640 these flag officer types, all those fancy generals and admirals, 372 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:22.400 that's when they all got together with each other and 373 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:26.680 they said, hey, why are we doing this to each other? 374 00:21:27.880 --> 00:21:31.640 Whenever we screw up, we have to resign, we retire, 375 00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:38.319 and disgrace and whatnot? What if instead of accountability, what 376 00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:41.000 if we just protected each other at all times? 377 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:42.599 Oh no, no, no, no, no. 378 00:21:42.759 --> 00:21:45.200 The men and the dudes on the ground, the guys 379 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.880 out there getting shot, No no, there's still no no 380 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:51.920 grace for them whatsoever. The second day screw up, we 381 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:54.960 will destroy their careers and we'll court martial them and 382 00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:57.920 we'll completely wreck their lives. But us, hey, we're we're 383 00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:00.680 the generals. Let's not do this to each other anymore. 384 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.640 Worth We're on the same team, right, don't you agree? General? 385 00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:11.240 Don't you agree? And that poisonous culture continued past Vietnam, 386 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:15.000 and it exists today in what I hope to be 387 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:24.880 its final form. Twenty years of Iraq and Afghanistan, twenty 388 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:30.799 years of men and women dying, and the ones who 389 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:37.519 didn't die blown up PTSD all over the place, missing 390 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:42.599 body parts. And that's just the American troops will set 391 00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:49.920 aside what happened to others overseas, twenty years of failure. 392 00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:56.079 I know guys who watched their friends die so they 393 00:22:56.079 --> 00:23:00.400 could put in a well in an Afghan village. Well, 394 00:23:01.160 --> 00:23:06.759 the villagers decided to never use. I know guys who 395 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:10.519 guarded the poppy fields, you know, Heroin. I know guys 396 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:14.240 who were put in charge of guarding the poppy fields 397 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:19.720 in Afghanistan. Did you know that the Green Beret in 398 00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:24.480 Afghanistan who caught a one of the Afghan security forces 399 00:23:24.799 --> 00:23:27.759 viciously abusing a young boy. I won't go into it. 400 00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:33.839 The Green Beret was punished for that. Failure after failure, 401 00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:39.160