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Speaker 2: Could you imagine going to see Olympic events in River Tucky.
Speaker 2: It is possible, not probable, but possible. There's a two
Speaker 2: hundred million dollar proposal which would transform, you know, the
Speaker 2: Riverside Golf Club. It's been abandoned since like maybe two
Speaker 2: thousand and nine. They would transform the Riverside Golf Club
Speaker 2: and Riverside into like an adventure center. They're talking about
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty six acre sports complex and it
Speaker 2: would feature kayaking, surfing, climbing areas and more. And we
Speaker 2: know that the Olympics are coming to LA in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty eight and Riverside. If they can get this project
Speaker 2: off the ground, and they're saying it would be privately funded.
Speaker 2: People would not have to pay out of their taxes,
Speaker 2: would not be paying for it in the sense of
Speaker 2: public funds. If they could get it done by twenty
Speaker 2: twenty seven, June twenty twenty seven, that's the cutoff, then
Speaker 2: it would be eligible to host events in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Here's some of the story five point thirty. I share
Speaker 3: Calvin and I'm Micah Olman.
Speaker 4: If approved, the general old golf course in Riverside will
Speaker 4: transform into the Riverside Adventure Center, featuring kayaking, surfing, climbing areas,
Speaker 4: zip lines, and more. The complex would also have stores, restaurants,
Speaker 4: and apartments across the street.
Speaker 5: Ka Tail's Shelby Nelson joins us live in Riverside with
Speaker 5: more Shelby.
Speaker 3: Hey, Sharon, Michael.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds really exciting. But keep in mind is
Speaker 5: these are the really early stages of this proposed project,
Speaker 5: and if all goes to plan, the developer is hoping
Speaker 5: that this newly proposed location could host some of the
Speaker 5: competitions for the twenty twenty eight Olympics.
Speaker 2: Two years a little more than two there's time to
Speaker 2: do it. I don't know if it can be organized
Speaker 2: and created in that two and a half years, but
Speaker 2: it's a very small window. But I actually would like
Speaker 2: to see that just for the city and area of
Speaker 2: Riverside in an empire, because it needs it, and it
Speaker 2: would be a great draw for people to come out there,
Speaker 2: bring their families, have all sorts of fun. It would
Speaker 2: be a quasi amusement park, but I don't know if
Speaker 2: you've ever been kayaking.
Speaker 3: I have. It's great fun.
Speaker 2: I don't know how much of an audience there would
Speaker 2: be for it for the many months of the year,
Speaker 2: but it's something that I think there would be an
Speaker 2: audience for on some level. I mean, there are also
Speaker 2: plans for biking trails, picnic areas, new grocery store and housing.
Speaker 2: It's something that could really revitalize the area more than anything.
Speaker 2: And I always care about Riverside, calling it River Tucky,
Speaker 2: and I say that very fondly because it's nactually a
Speaker 2: very nice area as well as San Bernardino in the
Speaker 2: Inland Empire. There's just not a lot to do out there.
Speaker 2: When I went out there, I was hanging out with
Speaker 2: friends at UC Riverside or cal State Sand Bernardino, but
Speaker 2: there's not a lot as far as tourism goes. This
Speaker 2: would go a very long way to change that. And
Speaker 2: I'm just not one of those outdoorsy type people. I
Speaker 2: doubt Mark is. I know Tawala is not. I don't
Speaker 2: think Stefan is, but he's not here tonight. That doesn't
Speaker 2: appeal to me per se, But this is California. There's
Speaker 2: got to be, you know, something something like that that
Speaker 2: would be appealing for most Californians.
Speaker 3: Kayaking is a good workout, believe it or not.
Speaker 6: When did you do that? How about a lifetime ago?
Speaker 6: I mean, you don't think I got skin like this
Speaker 6: by being outside all the time, don't you?
Speaker 3: Come on.
Speaker 2: I've done some light kayaking with friends up in a
Speaker 2: place called Clear Lake in kind of central California, and
Speaker 2: I it's some sculling and some rowing, just for fun
Speaker 2: with friends at Georgetown because Georgetown has a huge rowing team,
Speaker 2: you know, one of the best in the country, or
Speaker 2: at least when I was there, So you had the
Speaker 2: chance hang out with friends and they were teaching me
Speaker 2: how to do it. I was very bad at it,
Speaker 2: very very bad at it. But I understand it's a
Speaker 2: great workout. I mean, you have a great appreciation for
Speaker 2: those types of water competitions and water sports, especially if
Speaker 2: you've never done it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's not fun enough to continue doing
Speaker 6: it into your adult life.
Speaker 3: Hell, I don't even like sitting on a rowing machine now. No. No,
Speaker 3: Did you ever watch House of Cards?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and how a principal portion of the show was
Speaker 2: built around Frank under would and he would sit at
Speaker 2: his rowing machine and he'd work out his issues on
Speaker 2: a rowing machine.
Speaker 6: It seems like every show that's said in DC shows
Speaker 6: some variation, some permutation of rowing, like Jack Ryan, all
Speaker 6: of it.
Speaker 3: It's big as far as the culture in DC.
Speaker 2: That's my point. That's exactly my point. There is a
Speaker 2: big rowing community in Washington, d C. In the way
Speaker 2: that you think of LA and maybe the Venice basketball courts. Well,
Speaker 2: rowing is a thing that people just do in DC
Speaker 2: because you have the Potomac and you have the opportunity
Speaker 2: to actually go rowing.
Speaker 3: Now the hell with that.
Speaker 6: Just get on a stationary bike and watch a movie
Speaker 6: on your iPad like the rest of us.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I do, except the iPad part. I
Speaker 2: would never have an iPad in my hand. That blasphemy.
Speaker 2: I don't do too complicated tech for you. No, I
Speaker 2: just don't like Apple products. I'm on the good, beautiful things.
Speaker 2: I give Apple credit for the quality of the hardware,
Speaker 2: the build of their devices.
Speaker 6: You prefer inferior products, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2: No, I just like American products. I love America, and
Speaker 2: Apple build most of your stuff in China.
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, they put those nets up to stop people
Speaker 6: from killing themselves. I mean that's due diligence. I don't
Speaker 6: have to feel guilty about Apple stuff, do I. No, No,
Speaker 6: I'm just a Google guy.
Speaker 2: Like in other words, I My phones have been Google
Speaker 2: Android since the beginning. I have a Google Pixel eight.
Speaker 2: I'm probably going to upgrade to the Pixel ten. Everything
Speaker 2: I do on my computer is within the matrix of Google.
Speaker 6: Now, you and Marsha, who I am right now christening
Speaker 6: the nice tech lady, the two of you have a
Speaker 6: weird uh Android.
Speaker 3: Cult thing going on. I've never understood that. I'll explain it.
Speaker 3: It's very, very simple, very simple.
Speaker 2: Android is for those who appreciate customization. We can make
Speaker 2: our phones and our email and that whole ecosystem specific
Speaker 2: to us. There are more customization options with Android phones
Speaker 2: as opposed to Apple, just from our home screen to
Speaker 2: the icon. It's just a it's a much more personalized experience.
Speaker 6: It's like you're speaking Farsi to me, because when I
Speaker 6: have my iPhone in my hand, there's nothing I can
Speaker 6: think of that I would want to customize because it
Speaker 6: does everything that all the stuff in a Star Trek
Speaker 6: episode would do combined.
Speaker 3: It's not due.
Speaker 6: It's about the presentation, it's about how it looks superficial.
Speaker 6: Then that's where you're focused.
Speaker 2: Maybe it could be the types of notification alerts, and
Speaker 2: you can customize it how your phone will buzz or
Speaker 2: beat for a certain text message, or I can do.
Speaker 6: That when when you text me, I could program it
Speaker 6: to go it's mo you can't.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, but there are more options when it comes
Speaker 2: to Android.
Speaker 3: You asked a serious question.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to give you a serious answer, and I'm
Speaker 2: trying to make it as simple as possible so you'll
Speaker 2: understand it.
Speaker 6: That's a nice try, but I'm actually gonna do that,
Speaker 6: and I'm going to insist you call Marcia the nice
Speaker 6: tech lady.
Speaker 2: Now she is the nice tech lady. But my point
Speaker 2: is going back to the story. I've done some kayaking,
Speaker 2: I've done some rowing, but that was specific to Washington,
Speaker 2: d C. And if you spend any time out there, yeah,
Speaker 2: rolling is a typical thing, and people would have rowing
Speaker 2: machines because you'd see people rowing on the Potomac and
Speaker 2: it's a beautiful thing to do, and I missed the
Speaker 2: opportunity to do it. I would never do it now,
Speaker 2: but I'm saying was when I was in my you know,
Speaker 2: late teens and early twenties, the opporunity percent of itself.
Speaker 3: So I got my ass out of a potomac.
Speaker 6: Do that too much, you get huge lats and your
Speaker 6: jackets won't fit anymore. Yeah, but that was thirty five
Speaker 6: years ago. I think it's okay now you think.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Look what I do is as far as the physical activities,
Speaker 2: I'm doing my hot keto. I'll do thirty to forty
Speaker 2: push ups every morning before I get in the shower,
Speaker 2: do my stretches.
Speaker 3: But I'm not trying to build bulk.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to stay as lean as possible I should say,
Speaker 2: less fat as possible, and you know, retain basic muscle mass.
Speaker 6: I'm not trying to lift weights like that. Those times
Speaker 6: are over. Well if you say so, oh, I'm sure.
Speaker 6: I want you to be comfortable. I don't want you
Speaker 6: to injure yourself or or you don't have one of
Speaker 6: those medical alert things. So I don't want you to
Speaker 6: fall down until I've fallen and I can't get up
Speaker 6: and have nobody respond.
Speaker 2: Don't tell me I'm not the don't tell me I'm
Speaker 2: the only one who will go to sleep and wake
Speaker 2: up with a sprain ankle?
Speaker 3: What does never happened to you? I don't know what
Speaker 3: you're talking about. Oh, you're lying. You go to sleep
Speaker 3: and you wake up with a sprained ankle.
Speaker 2: You've never got out of bed in the morning, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you realize, like, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: I twisted my back or I sprained my ankle, and
Speaker 2: you have no idea why, and I don't sleep walk,
Speaker 2: so we can remove that.
Speaker 3: No, no, this is all new to me.
Speaker 6: I mean, of all the things that are going to
Speaker 6: happen while you're asleep, that's not a thing I would
Speaker 6: have guessed.
Speaker 2: Robin, you're too young. You'll learn about this as you
Speaker 2: get older. Twallow went somewhere, but I know it's happened.
Speaker 2: He get him in there.
Speaker 3: We need we get you ass in here. I know
Speaker 3: that I'm not.
Speaker 2: The only one that that happens too, where you go
Speaker 2: to sleep and you're like, wait, how did I just
Speaker 2: locate my elbow or something in the middle of the
Speaker 2: night doing nothing. I know I cannot be the only
Speaker 2: one that happens to tell me I'm not lying.
Speaker 3: We need to get you to help.
Speaker 2: You need it fast, well, You've never gone to sleep
Speaker 2: like woken up with a sprain, ankle or something.
Speaker 3: You have no idea how it happened. Yes, of course
Speaker 3: that happens. That's all I'm saying. Are you too like
Speaker 3: mister Glass in the shamela An movies? Oh come on?
Speaker 6: Oh look seriously, Mark, Okay, don't. I don't know what's
Speaker 6: going on in your genetic pool. But I have literally
Speaker 6: woken up and found my knee out of sorts, and
Speaker 6: I have no idea what happened.
Speaker 3: I literally do.
Speaker 6: I woke up one one, I got out of the bed,
Speaker 6: put my feet on the ground and stood up and
Speaker 6: damn near collapsed because I thought my ankle was sprayed.
Speaker 3: For God's sake.
Speaker 2: He he's lying now. He doesn't want to admit his age.
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to let on that he's in the
Speaker 2: same age bracket as we are I am. So it
Speaker 2: wants to claim like, oh my gosh, these things don't
Speaker 2: happen to me because I'm my runner and I'm only
Speaker 2: thirty two.
Speaker 6: So you haven't just stretched and almost literally put your
Speaker 6: entire back out.
Speaker 3: No, take some vitamins you're pants, or I'll stand up them.
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 2: I don't know because you don't wear pants in the studio.
Speaker 2: You already told us that. Oh that's right. Look at
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Speaker 2: And Space Force is back in the news as Space
Speaker 2: Force is going to play quote unquote a central role
Speaker 2: in the Iron Dome US Missile Defense Initiative. In fact,
Speaker 2: this integrated planning Team, the IPT, will have wide ranging
Speaker 2: expertise that will be critical in laying out the missile
Speaker 2: shield architecture to defend the US homeland from missile threats.
Speaker 2: And that's according to the Space Forces Chief of Space Operations,
Speaker 2: General Chance Saltzman, quote, we are leading forward establishing this
Speaker 2: technical IPT to start thinking about it from an overarching perspective.
Speaker 2: The Iron Dome for America Executive Order was signed by
Speaker 2: President Donald Trump on January twenty seventh, and its specifically
Speaker 2: direct Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth to submit a comprehensive
Speaker 2: plan detailing the architecture, requirements, and implementation strategy for a
Speaker 2: missile defense system and the Missile Defense Agency, which oversees
Speaker 2: the nation's existing missile defense shield, has taken lead in
Speaker 2: organizing meetings with the defense industry. YadA yah, yeada, blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. And this seems to me, correct me if
Speaker 2: I'm wrong. This seems to me the next logical evolution
Speaker 2: of what was the Star Wars Strategic Defense Initiative whatever
Speaker 2: they called it during the Reagan administration many decades ago.
Speaker 6: Yes, but now we have an actual dedicated arm of
Speaker 6: our US military dedicated to defending us not just in
Speaker 6: the upper atmosphere, but in the upper upper atmosphere.
Speaker 2: I saw this photo which is floating around social media
Speaker 2: of the X thirty seven, the super secret Dronet unmanned
Speaker 2: craft which they use to do all our spy work
Speaker 2: out and outer space, and it took a picture of
Speaker 2: Earth and they released that to the press. And I'm
Speaker 2: quite sure now we have a fully fleshed out space presence,
Speaker 2: unmanned at least, including our satellites which are doing all
Speaker 2: sorts of things up there. And this is the next
Speaker 2: logical progression. We have all these satellites, in other words,
Speaker 2: billions and billions of dollars worth of communication and military
Speaker 2: hardware which can be vulnerable or can be weaponized in
Speaker 2: whatever degree, and it serves out our interests that not
Speaker 2: only is protected, we also know what everyone else is doing.
Speaker 3: It's not just satellites up there, that's for sure. Well.
Speaker 6: The notion of a military division protecting us not just
Speaker 6: here in the land, the sea, and the air, but
Speaker 6: in space is important because we need to have like
Speaker 6: you said, there are unmanned vehicles up there. We need
Speaker 6: some type of protection, some type of deterrent from enemy
Speaker 6: satellites by noun from attacking our existing satellite network up there.
Speaker 3: We have to have some protections against that.
Speaker 2: Trump's executive order says the US needs a multi layer
Speaker 2: defense against advanced missile threats, including ballistic, hypersonic, and cruise missiles.
Speaker 2: The administration argues that an advanced missile shield would deter
Speaker 2: adversaries like Russia and China. Well, how can I just
Speaker 2: thought we just were on the side of Russia as
Speaker 2: of yesterday, How can they be considered an adversary? But
Speaker 2: you know, the administration argues that in an advanced missile
Speaker 2: shield would deter adversaries like Russia and China from leveraging
Speaker 2: their missile capabilities for corrosion I don't think President Trump
Speaker 2: needs to be coerced. He is fully on board with Russia. Yeah,
Speaker 2: fully on board. Maybe this is being built to help Russia.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Look, I just love the idea that space force is
Speaker 6: we need it futilized more and more and more, that
Speaker 6: it is actually becoming something to our chagrin, because in
Speaker 6: the beginning we laughed bodily at space force, and then
Speaker 6: it's turned into like, oh, oh, wait a minute, oh.
Speaker 3: We say.
Speaker 2: It is serious and we need it. And Robin is
Speaker 2: way too young to remember this. But back in the
Speaker 2: nineteen eighties, there was this huge debate about whether we
Speaker 2: should pursue militarization in space, that we should have some
Speaker 2: sort of military presence or what was thought to be
Speaker 2: like this Star Wars defense initiative, where we would be
Speaker 2: able to shoot down other countries' missiles. Of course we
Speaker 2: can do that now, but the conversation started in a
Speaker 2: public sense in the nineteen eighties, and I know Mark
Speaker 2: remembers that debate.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm not sure many people remember how widely mocked
Speaker 6: Reagan's Star Wars thing was. And also, yes, about the
Speaker 6: best thing you could say about it is that it
Speaker 6: helped accelerate Russia spending itself into ruin the former Soviet
Speaker 6: Union rather well.
Speaker 2: That is true too, and yeah that helped also bring
Speaker 2: down the Soviet Union, absolutely.
Speaker 6: But it wasn't because you know, we had a realistic
Speaker 6: shot at some futuristic space star Wars thing actually happening.
Speaker 6: It was just it was a spending race and Russia,
Speaker 6: the Soviet Union, bankrupt itself.
Speaker 2: And that was an adjunct, if you will, of the
Speaker 2: nuclear arms race at the time, where Russia had more
Speaker 2: missiles nuclear.
Speaker 3: ICBMs than we did. I think they still do now.
Speaker 3: They still got plenty, but you know.
Speaker 2: They could they couldn't even feed the people in I
Speaker 2: would say the early nineties.
Speaker 6: There's still a shocking percentage of the Russian population that
Speaker 6: doesn't have indoor plumbing and toilets and stuff.
Speaker 3: But the god missiles though, the god missiles.
Speaker 6: I mean, you may see footage of Tucker losing his
Speaker 6: mind at a grocery store there, but bear in mind
Speaker 6: that that's not representative of the entirety of the country.
Speaker 2: But we're now old enough to see the i'll say,
Speaker 2: the growth and evolution of the vision of the late
Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan. It's now here Are you sure.
Speaker 3: I'm sure, Okay, I'm positive. It's real.
Speaker 2: The whole strategic the fits initiative has been realized thanks
Speaker 2: to our President Donald Trump.
Speaker 6: I just hope they have cool outfits. We talked about
Speaker 6: that and we saw the uniforms. They're not quite cool yet.
Speaker 6: I mean, I want a cool jacket if they're going
Speaker 6: to go through with this thing. Oh, you weren't here
Speaker 6: what we brought Space Force on the show. Yeah, we
Speaker 6: did a whole hour with them.
Speaker 3: Did they bring hats? Now? Like a hat? Those a
Speaker 3: very very serious conversation.
Speaker 6: It was about their expansion and infrastructure, what they're building
Speaker 6: here in southern California.
Speaker 3: It was very very impresive.
Speaker 6: It's like three miles from while I live on Crenshaw
Speaker 6: and yet no hats.
Speaker 3: That's very disappointed.
Speaker 6: We'll have them back of the show. We'll get hats
Speaker 6: just for you. That's tattoos and I want the whole
Speaker 6: nine yards.
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Speaker 2: Wars will give you the latest about where that whole
Speaker 2: intellectual property is going. Now that Kathleen Kennedy is expected
Speaker 2: to retire by the end of the year.
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Speaker 3: I love Star Wars through and through, Love it through
Speaker 3: and through.
Speaker 2: It takes me back to nineteen seventy seven when my
Speaker 2: father took me and my grandfather, my mother's father to
Speaker 2: see Star Wars. I think it was maybe the second
Speaker 2: week he was out. He was in Century City, had
Speaker 2: a waiting line, was packed out theater, and I'll never
Speaker 2: forget the experience. I absolutely loved it. Fell in love
Speaker 2: with Star Wars right then. And this was at a
Speaker 2: time there weren't a lot of sequels. You had maybe
Speaker 2: The Godfather, and I can't think of anything else which
Speaker 2: had a sequel in the nineteen seventies that was not expected,
Speaker 2: that was not.
Speaker 3: Normal at all.
Speaker 2: And then as Star Wars progressed, you had the Empire
Speaker 2: strikes Back in nineteen eighty, Return of the Jedi in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty three, and then the rest, they say is history.
Speaker 3: But much later on in that history, George.
Speaker 2: Lucas sold his Star Wars World Universe of intellectual property
Speaker 2: and rights to Disney, and there was a question there
Speaker 2: was concern. There was a worry whether selling Star Wars
Speaker 2: would change change it into something else, changing into something
Speaker 2: which was much more disneyfied and less Star Wars. Star Wars,
Speaker 2: for all the jokes that people would make about it,
Speaker 2: was still a somewhat serious movie. You had one of
Speaker 2: the best villains of all time, Darth Vader, who choked
Speaker 2: people to death.
Speaker 3: He was a serious villain. If you know anything about.
Speaker 2: The Star Wars storyline, it's basically based on the Nazis.
Speaker 2: You had the Stormtroopers, and it was a mark. How
Speaker 2: would you characterize it? I thought it was like a
Speaker 2: treatise on imperialism.
Speaker 6: I just always thought of it as like the Cadillac
Speaker 6: treatment of all the old sci fi movie serials that
Speaker 6: George Lucas grew up with, like Flash Gordon and Bush Rogers.
Speaker 2: True, but there still wasn't a serious underpinning as far
Speaker 2: as what it was based on and the message he
Speaker 2: was trying to convey. There was a definite message in it, Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, and I think it became more pronounced as
Speaker 6: the series went on, and then you realize that, like
Speaker 6: you have moments where you realize, oh, are we the Empire?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and you think that you're on the side
Speaker 2: of right yeah, and maybe you're not. The more you
Speaker 2: investigate the origins of Star Wars and the real message,
Speaker 2: who was exactly the empire and who was the resistance.
Speaker 2: I say all that to say, given all that subtext,
Speaker 2: when it was sold to Disney, there was concerned about
Speaker 2: what it would become, and Kathleen Kennedy, who was the
Speaker 2: longtime president of Lucasfilm and one of the original people
Speaker 2: around George Lucas, did not share the same vision for
Speaker 2: Star Wars, and after it was sold, Kathleen Kennedy stayed
Speaker 2: on as president and she's been much maligned and criticized
Speaker 2: as far as her vision, which seems to be more
Speaker 2: about Disney then the original feeling of Star Wars, and
Speaker 2: I think that's part of the reason why we got
Speaker 2: some mediocre Star Wars movies and some very mediocre TV
Speaker 2: series with the exception of a few. It has now
Speaker 2: been reported that Kathleen Kennedy is going to retire at
Speaker 2: the end of this year, and it says to Star
Speaker 2: Wars fans like me and Twala, I don't know about Mark,
Speaker 2: but a different day is coming and maybe better movies
Speaker 2: are coming because I had sworn off Star Wars movies
Speaker 2: for good because of you.
Speaker 6: Would just go see it no matter what, just because
Speaker 6: it's Star Wars and then hate watch it.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I did up until the Last Jedi. I was so
Speaker 2: done with Star Wars. With the Last Jedi, I didn't
Speaker 2: even see The Rise.
Speaker 6: Of Skywalker in like the first three weeks it was
Speaker 6: in theaters.
Speaker 3: I had no desire to see it.
Speaker 6: I'm not crazy about those and I said for a
Speaker 6: long time that Star Wars really got along on nothing
Speaker 6: but goodwill after two good movies Star Wars in nineteen
Speaker 6: seventy seven and Empire in nineteen eighty, and there was
Speaker 6: nothing good for decades after that.
Speaker 3: I disagree. For as bad as.
Speaker 2: Jar Jar Binks was in The Phantom Menace, we still
Speaker 2: got Darth Maul. The only problem with Darth Maul is
Speaker 2: they killed him.
Speaker 6: He was a cool character, and there were cool elements
Speaker 6: to some of those movies. I like The Buddy Cop
Speaker 6: Jedis that story with Django Fett. That was a good story.
Speaker 6: It did pay off in the end, but that was
Speaker 6: still Lucas's involvement. He was still heavily involved, and he
Speaker 6: was still trying to flesh out a story that he
Speaker 6: began long long ago under the leadership of Kathleen Kennedy.
Speaker 6: Is when we saw it take a decided turn into
Speaker 6: the realm of Solo and the ray led prequels that
Speaker 6: were just.
Speaker 2: Well, that goes back to the whole disnification of it all.
Speaker 2: George Lucas was made making stories for, I would say,
Speaker 2: more the nerd culture, and Kathleen Kennedy wanted to have
Speaker 2: teen girls and younger Disney fans, fans of the Disney
Speaker 2: universe to buy into Star Wars, and I don't think
Speaker 2: it worked. I think that Star Wars was always intented
Speaker 2: is much more of a vehicle for kids, and the
Speaker 2: marketing of all their toys bears that out. And it
Speaker 2: was never meant to It was always meant to be
Speaker 2: kind of juvenile fantasy and never serious hard sci fi.
Speaker 3: But maybe, okay, let's say that's true.
Speaker 2: But by the time it gets to Disney, it is
Speaker 2: what it is, and it had taken on a life
Speaker 2: and understanding of its own, which is different from the
Speaker 2: toys and the paraphernalia and all the marketing and merchandising
Speaker 2: that maybe we grew up on. But it was more
Speaker 2: about a level of seriousness of entertainment, not the silliness
Speaker 2: that it's become now.
Speaker 6: Because the toys became collectors items for adults. The the
Speaker 6: series of the franchise, it grew and maintained its relevance
Speaker 6: because of things like the graphic novels and comic books
Speaker 6: and Victo games, which are a lot darker, but the
Speaker 6: video games, which were very dark and told a much
Speaker 6: more serious and mature story because they had to appeal
Speaker 6: to young men.
Speaker 3: That's what kept the interest in Star Wars.
Speaker 6: And so when they said, hey, let's go at this again,
Speaker 6: you know we got Fortunately, we got stories like Rogue one,
Speaker 6: which for me is one of my favorite stories because
Speaker 6: it told the story of the war, which is why
Speaker 6: I like and or because it tells the story of
Speaker 6: the war in Star Wars. But Kathleen Kennedy in her
Speaker 6: Zille and her quest to destroy the Skywalker legacy and
Speaker 6: turn it into some you know, mass marketing machine. Look,
Speaker 6: I will give Kathleen Kennedy two props. I will give
Speaker 6: her two props and two props only. And that is
Speaker 6: the decision to put Dave Filoni and John Favreau in
Speaker 6: charge of future projects outside of that dinged.
Speaker 3: On the Witch is dead.
Speaker 2: Ye, yes, and no, because she was the one who
Speaker 2: put Ryan Johnson in charge and was going to give
Speaker 2: him his own trilogy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker 6: Now, remember she put Ryan Johnson in charge prior, prior
Speaker 6: she gave him the trilogy, prior to saying, oh, oh,
Speaker 6: they don't they don't like this slow speed chase in
Speaker 6: outer space with Vice Admiral Evening Gown. They didn't like that.
Speaker 6: Oh no, oh Ryan, this may not be a thing
Speaker 6: for you. Hey, hey, john who John Star Wars fan?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 6: And and can you get Dave over an animation? Can
Speaker 6: you get him to come over to live action? What
Speaker 6: you've got a series for the Mandalorian? What you've got
Speaker 6: an Ahsoka series? You're what You're giving us the most
Speaker 6: badass Luke Skywalker in the history of the entire franchise.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Thank you, gentlemen for what you've done for us.
Speaker 6: You are my obi WS. Was Kathleen Kennedy also responsible
Speaker 6: for bringing JJ Abrams on board because I think he
Speaker 6: did as much damage to Star Wars as he did
Speaker 6: to Star Trail.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the problem, and this week, before we go
Speaker 2: to break, we'll pick it up on the other side.
Speaker 2: Here's where Kathleen Kennedy I think made it worse than was.
Speaker 2: JJ Abrams had a trilogy in mind, but when you
Speaker 2: start changing directors, JJ wanted to tell a story that
Speaker 2: began with the Force Awakens and was going to have
Speaker 2: a more fleshed out story in between, which we might
Speaker 2: have learned more about the Knights of Wren and what
Speaker 2: actually happened to Luke Skywalker. Ryan Johnson comes in with
Speaker 2: the Last Jedi and say you have to kill the
Speaker 2: Pass and just disregarded everything which had happened in the
Speaker 2: previous movie. And then JJ Abrams comes back for the
Speaker 2: third one and tries to tell a story which is
Speaker 2: completely incomplete, and it's completely disjointed and jumbled and nonsensical,
Speaker 2: and I blame Kathleen Kennedy for that.
Speaker 3: There's no way they could have finished that Siti well.
Speaker 6: And JJ Abrams was brought on board by Kathy Kiddy
Speaker 6: even in the earliest parts of his career, like she said,
Speaker 6: when I get on, I'm putting you on because he
Speaker 6: was like a understudy when she was just a producer
Speaker 6: and stuff like that.
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Speaker 2: And we were talking about the impending retirement of Kathleen
Speaker 2: Kennedy and this is important thing.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not a Star Wars fan.
Speaker 2: Well, the Star Wars universe and the movies and the
Speaker 2: television shows on Disney Plus we talk about the importance
Speaker 2: of Disney to movie theaters, to the overall entertainment landscape.
Speaker 2: I promise you if Disney went away, the entertainment business
Speaker 2: as we know it would crater. The movie theaters that
Speaker 2: you know and love in your neighborhood would disappear and
Speaker 2: go out of business. Regardless of your personal politics, Disney
Speaker 2: is keeping thousands and thousands of people employed from a
Speaker 2: general labor force perspective, and it's also helping with our
Speaker 2: gross domestic product and our larger economy.
Speaker 3: So regardless of what you think about Disney.
Speaker 2: The success or failure of Disney has a direct impact
Speaker 2: on you. And I don't want people to lose sight
Speaker 2: of that. But sometimes we think, well, I you know,
Speaker 2: go woke, go broke. Well, you don't want Disney going broke,
Speaker 2: not that they're going to, but you're actually rooting against
Speaker 2: yourself each time that you say that, because you don't
Speaker 2: like the content that they may be putting out. And
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes there are consequences when you get what
Speaker 2: you ask for, it's not what you want. But anyhow,
Speaker 2: there are some things that Disney is doing well. There
Speaker 2: are some series that they've been producing on Disney Plus
Speaker 2: which I think are fine in the sense of really
Speaker 2: quality additions to the Star Wars universe verse. One of
Speaker 2: them was and Or, and I had to slowly warm
Speaker 2: up to it. I thought it was a little slow
Speaker 2: in its first season and then it picked up. If
Speaker 2: you don't know the story of and Or, it's basically
Speaker 2: telling the story the inner workings of how the Death Star,
Speaker 2: the original Death Star was built. And the second sceneson
Speaker 2: trailer recently dropped, where the war you.
Speaker 3: Want to fight? Who do you want to win?
Speaker 6: Last dream that the world turn around?
Speaker 3: Alloaves have come to me, Drills Stars now a swell
Speaker 3: part of.
Speaker 2: This, more music than anything, and montages of pictures. I
Speaker 2: wish you could have more dialogue in it, but.
Speaker 6: You get to see how the Death Star was built
Speaker 6: from the inside out and that's something the story we
Speaker 6: never got to see. We just got to see a
Speaker 6: fully completed death Star in episode four, and we knew
Speaker 6: the story of the stealing of the plans. We saw
Speaker 6: how they were stolen in Rogue one.
Speaker 3: But now they're.
Speaker 6: Taking you just a step before that, where how the
Speaker 6: bureaucracy and the evolution of the empire led to the
Speaker 6: creation of this weapon of mass destruction That exactly hits
Speaker 6: it on the head. The bureaucracy, the politics, the political
Speaker 6: intrigue behind the scenes, where you have different politicians carrying
Speaker 6: favor with different factions, whether they be pro empire or
Speaker 6: pro underground rebellion, and how all all of these inner
Speaker 6: workings is what shaped the galaxy. And it gives you
Speaker 6: another another look at what you would consider the sides
Speaker 6: of right and wrong, when really this is almost Republicans
Speaker 6: and Democrats. That is, it is very very heavy in
Speaker 6: its political leanings, in who is who and the story
Speaker 6: they're trying to tell about not necessarily one party, but
Speaker 6: party specific overreach and party over zealousness about controlling the
Speaker 6: narrative writ large.
Speaker 3: This is ultimately what happens, you know, And that's the
Speaker 3: funny thing. Funny aha, and funny haha.
Speaker 2: Where people complain I don't want politics in my Disney content.
Speaker 3: If you know Star Wars, it's nothing but politics.
Speaker 2: Sorry to you know, to you know, disabuse you of
Speaker 2: the notion that there are no politics in Star Wars.
Speaker 2: It was built on politics. And this is talking about
Speaker 2: we go back and watch the Phantom Menace. It is
Speaker 2: almost exactly what's happening right now in America.
Speaker 6: And at the time we all mocked the whole trade
Speaker 6: war thing and all the Galactic Congress stuff as a
Speaker 6: bunch of nonsense. We didn't like it, but it really
Speaker 6: applies now it actually does. And you have the invasion
Speaker 6: of Naboo. I'm getting ready to go deep.
Speaker 2: You have the invasion of Naboo, and then you have
Speaker 2: the Trade Viceroyce who said, what do you mean what invasion?
Speaker 3: What are you talking about? There was no invasion.
Speaker 2: We need to have an investigation into it, and how
Speaker 2: the bureaucracy and if you're talking about Naboo is Ukraine
Speaker 2: at this point, and the Galactic Senate is basically of
Speaker 2: Russia and they want to deny the invasion of There's
Speaker 2: so many historical parallels to this world right now.
Speaker 3: If you watch Star Wars.
Speaker 2: If you don't like to have politics and Star Wars mix,
Speaker 2: you've never been paying attention at all at all. As
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, I think I have that clip
Speaker 2: around here somewhere. Real quick, I can play that What
Speaker 2: U is today? The twenty fifth? Yeah, I think it
Speaker 2: was twenty fourth or so. I have to come back
Speaker 2: and find it. Maybe I'll find it after.
Speaker 6: The break, but definitely, Kathleen Kennedy retiring helps Star Wars,
Speaker 6: and it will help it moving forward.
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