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Speaker 3: Distracted Driver dot Com, hopefully reacting to not only a
Speaker 3: win for Louisville, but a clean football game without as
Speaker 3: many mistakes as we saw in South Bend. Mistakes that
Speaker 3: you know, really the opponent had very little or nothing
Speaker 3: to do with. But we shall see. I'm eager to
Speaker 3: see what this team looks like coming off of a
Speaker 3: disappointing loss. Losing the Notre Dame at Notre Dame is
Speaker 3: usually what everybody does when they go there, and I
Speaker 3: know Northern Illinois they were able to leave with a
Speaker 3: victory but still a loss is not a bad thing there,
Speaker 3: but just to know that you made so many mistakes
Speaker 3: and just really, I mean, I know they weren't trying
Speaker 3: to lose the game, but there were four or five
Speaker 3: plays throughout that you're thinking, Okay, well, I mean, you're
Speaker 3: not gonna win if you do that, and despite doing
Speaker 3: all that, you still had a chance.
Speaker 2: So I'll stop talking about it.
Speaker 3: Because it's it's it still pisses me off, but we'll
Speaker 3: move on. And you know what takes me from being
Speaker 3: pissed off to happy is welcoming in mister Zach Barnett
Speaker 3: of FootballScoop dot dot com. How are we doing this afternoon, Zach?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, Nick, when I come on your show,
Speaker 4: I go from happy to pissed off.
Speaker 3: So I guess we're yeah, we'll balance each other out right.
Speaker 3: Life's all about balance, my man. So I'll start with
Speaker 3: the Alabama Georgia game. I'm not sure it could have
Speaker 3: been more entertaining to those that were watching without a
Speaker 3: dog in the fight, or that made a wager that
Speaker 3: just wanted to see an entertaining game. It wasn't that
Speaker 3: at the beginning. But man, what a finish. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's tough to know. It's still relatively early in the season,
Speaker 3: but like, nobody will be shocked if it's those two
Speaker 3: potentially playing for the national championship, right.
Speaker 4: I would say shocked, No, But the odds of it
Speaker 4: happening are probably less than one would assume, even if
Speaker 4: we take at face value that those are two of
Speaker 4: the two best teams of the country.
Speaker 3: More so because of the way they would have to
Speaker 3: line up in the bracket, or because maybe one of
Speaker 3: them's not maybe not not not as good as people think.
Speaker 4: Both a little column any little more Calum b Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean Alabama moved to number one in the country
Speaker 4: in a game where over three quarters of the game
Speaker 4: they were outscored thirty four to thirteen. I mean, they
Speaker 4: deserve all the credit in the world for going out
Speaker 4: and winning that game, But that was a start that
Speaker 4: Georgia was clearly shell shocked after that game or to
Speaker 4: start that game, and you know, credit to Alabama for
Speaker 4: putting them in that position. But once the the wave
Speaker 4: of emotion fell off, Georgia was the better team over
Speaker 4: the final three quarters. And at the same time, we've
Speaker 4: seen a Georgia team that now beat Kentucky by one,
Speaker 4: scored six points in the first half against Clemson, and
Speaker 4: had what seven at halftime against Alabama? So this is
Speaker 4: slow starts. I think no longer can be excused away.
Speaker 4: I mean they're basically pittering away half of their meaningful
Speaker 4: snaps so far this season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that Kentucky loss. At the time, you know,
Speaker 3: not Kentucky lost that the close, close win against Kentucky,
Speaker 3: although it kind of looked like a loss because they
Speaker 3: fell in the rankings, But Georgia's had games like that
Speaker 3: before in the last two years, actually against teams they
Speaker 3: ended up not being that great. But I guess at
Speaker 3: this point it looks a little more like a tell However,
Speaker 3: you know, the Old Miss Kentucky game, I mean, did that?
Speaker 3: Did that tell you more about Kentucky or more about
Speaker 3: Old Miss?
Speaker 4: I definitely have more respect for Kentucky's defense than I
Speaker 4: did before. I don't think we can wipe that away
Speaker 4: as Georgia has just had an off night whatever.
Speaker 5: Clearly Kentucky has.
Speaker 4: Earned has earned respect and had a lot to do
Speaker 4: with why Georgia played so poorly. And then the Old
Speaker 4: Miss I never bought that they were the number six
Speaker 4: team in the Country anything like that. But I thought,
Speaker 4: I guess, shame on me, because I thought that scoring
Speaker 4: fifty on Wake Forest and seventy six on Firmament, the
Speaker 4: minimum they'd score on Kentucky would be, you know, twenty
Speaker 4: four to twenty eight. And I overlooked what paper tigers
Speaker 4: and what frauds that program is. So I'm disappointed that
Speaker 4: they're even ranked at all this week because what isn't it?
Speaker 2: But isn't it? Also it's not just the program.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, Lane Kiffin's a fine coach, but
Speaker 3: like he really hasn't really ever accomplished anything as a
Speaker 3: head coach. And I you know, saying that, it's not
Speaker 3: like a it's not a hot take, it's not like,
Speaker 3: you know, it's not crazy. But I think just the
Speaker 3: perception of Lane and I guess the momentum that Old
Speaker 3: misscarried into this year, Like, really, that result isn't that
Speaker 3: surprising when you consider Lane Kiffin as a coach.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I mean he's had He did beat Penn
Speaker 4: State in the Peach Bowl last year, but Penn State
Speaker 4: hasn't beaten anyone worth a crap in ten years.
Speaker 2: They're kind of similar.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean I went on our podcast this
Speaker 4: past year or this this past August and said that
Speaker 4: ole Miss was the second biggest paper Tiger program in
Speaker 4: the country to Penn State. And then I went out
Speaker 4: there and totally forgot that and thought that there's no
Speaker 4: way they'd lose to Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Kentucky got hammered by South Carolina
Speaker 3: and that was the result that I think stuck out
Speaker 3: with a lot of people and they were close with Georgia.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, that was a huge win for
Speaker 3: Mark Steps, probably the biggest win of his career, just
Speaker 3: considering where ole Miss was ranked. But I think if
Speaker 3: you're Kentucky, you still trying to figure out who you are.
Speaker 3: I mean, still of it an impressive win, But which
Speaker 3: one are you?
Speaker 1: Are?
Speaker 3: You more likely the team that you know can get
Speaker 3: stops and find a way to win against a great
Speaker 3: Ole Miss team or a team that somehow makes no sense.
Speaker 3: Even more so now it's been weeks removed, but that
Speaker 3: lost to South Carolina was just was really really bad.
Speaker 3: But Zack Bournetta Football Scoop is our guest joining us
Speaker 3: here talking some college football. Right now, Let's say, of
Speaker 3: these five teams, Texas Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Tennessee. Would
Speaker 3: you say, would you take one of those teams or
Speaker 3: the field to win the national championship? I think I
Speaker 3: know the answer, but I'll let you answer.
Speaker 5: Just by pure odds, it have to be Ohio.
Speaker 2: State, Okay, of those, I mean go ahead.
Speaker 4: Of those are the conference So I think anybody, if
Speaker 4: you're just playing pure odds, would have to take a
Speaker 4: lot of state.
Speaker 3: Who do you think is maybe know who would you
Speaker 3: say outside of those five could could realistically find themselves,
Speaker 3: you know, as a as a title contender, And there
Speaker 3: may be more than just one. But it just seems
Speaker 3: as if right now those are the teams that have
Speaker 3: all the momentum as far as looking like they may
Speaker 3: actually be able to win the whole thing.
Speaker 4: Outside of those five, I think you have to go, honestly,
Speaker 4: I mean, Miami, really.
Speaker 5: You just you look at the way the bracket breaks.
Speaker 3: I mean I say, really like, I'm surprised, Zach, But
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't give you another one that would
Speaker 3: that would be you know that I think would be
Speaker 3: more deserving.
Speaker 4: Actually yeah, I mean if the season ended to day,
Speaker 4: they're there have a clear spot to the number three seed,
Speaker 4: and then you're you're gonna have to beat somebody really
Speaker 4: good in the in the quarterfinals, and that's not gonna
Speaker 4: be easy, but nobody has an easy spot through the quarterfinals.
Speaker 4: And then after that, I mean, can't they The baseline
Speaker 4: talent on that roster has clearly risen. They're good on
Speaker 4: the offensive lines, and Kim Ward is just a a
Speaker 4: baller and gives them a chance to win every single game.
Speaker 3: They haven't lost yet and they're still ranked number six,
Speaker 3: but it kind of feels like a team that had
Speaker 3: a lot of momentum and they just haven't really looked
Speaker 3: the part as Oregon. What do you think, I mean,
Speaker 3: are they a team that, from what you've seen, you're
Speaker 3: kind of not out on necessarily, But like, I feel
Speaker 3: like there were a lot of people that thought they
Speaker 3: could potentially be a title contender. I'm not saying that
Speaker 3: you thought that, but it just kind of seems like
Speaker 3: they've been able to stay unbeaten. But a lot of
Speaker 3: their momentum kind of seems to the perception of them
Speaker 3: this year just kind of doesn't seem to fit with
Speaker 3: what a lot of people thought they would be saying
Speaker 3: after a month end of the season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they really struggled to run the football and hit
Speaker 4: explosives early in the season. That's gotten better as the
Speaker 4: season gone along.
Speaker 5: They have the Ohio.
Speaker 4: State game here in a couple of weeks that will
Speaker 4: obviously go a long way towards telling us.
Speaker 5: How good they really are.
Speaker 4: I think, based on how they started, I think they're
Speaker 4: an appropriate place to kind of idle in the lower
Speaker 4: half of the top ten.
Speaker 3: All right, so the ACE, I'm sorry, the SEC and
Speaker 3: the Big Ten. We found out last week that they're
Speaker 3: gonna gather sounds like it's taking place this week, might
Speaker 3: be taking place right now, I'm not sure, maybe it's
Speaker 3: next week, but they're going to talk about a lot
Speaker 3: of things, including the College Football Playoff. It sounds like
Speaker 3: there are reports that they want four guaranteed spots for
Speaker 3: each conference. I mean, what do you think if you're
Speaker 3: a fly on the wall there in these meetings. Let's
Speaker 3: maybe say, not only a fly on the wall when
Speaker 3: they're discussing amongst each other, but when they're discussing it
Speaker 3: to everybody that's involved in the college football Playoff? Is
Speaker 3: their pitch just going to be, Hey, we have all
Speaker 3: the power and we're bullies. I mean, I know they
Speaker 3: wouldn't word it that way, but that kind of seems
Speaker 3: like what this is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I they have thirty four of those schools.
Speaker 4: And there's at rise of right now one hundred other
Speaker 4: in the SBS, and there's more power in those thirty
Speaker 4: four than there's the other one hundred.
Speaker 5: So I think, based off what we've seen in college football,
Speaker 5: everyone doubt for.
Speaker 4: Themselves and they're going to divide the world and try
Speaker 4: to range the world as best benefits themselves.
Speaker 5: So I fully expect that.
Speaker 4: They're going to come out of that of those conference
Speaker 4: rooms with their plan for a fourteen team bracket starting
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six, with the top two seeds and
Speaker 4: then the only two buys reserved for their respective champions,
Speaker 4: and then three auto bids after that, which I am
Speaker 4: fully against.
Speaker 5: I think would be terrible. I love the quirk.
Speaker 4: Of the ACC and the Big twelve champion we assume
Speaker 4: also getting buys.
Speaker 5: And I think the fact.
Speaker 4: That you could start a season being like, you know what,
Speaker 4: as long as we finished fourth in our conference, we
Speaker 4: got a guaranteed shot or we have a guaranteed spot
Speaker 4: in the playoffs. I think that's terrible and I'm against
Speaker 4: it anybody stopping it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that that was gonna be my next question,
Speaker 3: and I don't think there's an answer at least as
Speaker 3: of now, Like how do you prevent this? Like, and
Speaker 3: this is one of those things that if they if
Speaker 3: this ends up working out for them, meaning the SEC
Speaker 3: and the Big Ten, it's only a matter of time
Speaker 3: before they decide to be bullies again, right, like they
Speaker 3: I mean again, and clearly they are the best leagues
Speaker 3: when it comes to their value, right the elite. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's not like anybody would tell you that they aren't
Speaker 3: the two best leagues for the most part. But I
Speaker 3: don't know, Like part of me says, this is just
Speaker 3: what commissioners are going to do looking out for league members,
Speaker 3: and the job's never done. You're always trying to do
Speaker 3: what's best and take advantage of the leverage and power
Speaker 3: that you have. But it also just seems absurd to me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems like a half measure towards.
Speaker 4: What most people believe is the ultimate final resting place,
Speaker 4: which is scooping up the remaining brands that they deem
Speaker 4: valuable to get to a final number of forty or
Speaker 4: fifty or whatever that number is, creating your own league
Speaker 4: from there and then just having a championship amongst yourselves
Speaker 4: and not even bothering to include the other eighty schools.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm with you, I'm against it, but
Speaker 3: wouldn't shock me at all if if that's what ends
Speaker 3: up happening. We do have some realignment going on here
Speaker 3: with the Mountain West and the Pack twelve, which is
Speaker 3: really just like the Mountain West Extra or the Mountain
Speaker 3: West Plus. I mean, who do you feel like right
Speaker 3: now is in position to say they're the better league
Speaker 3: because it's essentially the same. I mean, to me, there's
Speaker 3: not a big difference between these two overall. You know,
Speaker 3: let's let me go back up a second. When it
Speaker 3: comes to the leftovers from the Power five in the
Speaker 3: previous world, that's Oregon State, Washington State.
Speaker 2: How did they get here? Like, why do you feel
Speaker 2: like they.
Speaker 3: Just didn't join the I mean, I feel like they
Speaker 3: would have been better off just joining the Mountain West
Speaker 3: because now they're essentially just trying to disguise themselves as
Speaker 3: something that is not what they are.
Speaker 4: From my understanding, there's a lot of money tied up
Speaker 4: in the Pac twelve contracts and all the money that
Speaker 4: Oregon and Washington all then paid to get out, that
Speaker 4: money they can access easier if they remain in the
Speaker 4: PAC twelve, and this way they can swoop in and
Speaker 4: get the schools that they really want, the the value
Speaker 4: such that there is of the Mountain West and take
Speaker 4: the top five schools and then not have to worry
Speaker 4: about paying a share to San Jose State in New
Speaker 4: Mexico and schools that don't.
Speaker 5: Move the needle. I mean it's the same.
Speaker 4: I mean the ACC did the same thing to the
Speaker 4: Big East all those years. Yeah, it's the same pattern
Speaker 4: we've seen repeated for twenty straight years now. And it's
Speaker 4: just sad that there's no one within college sports that
Speaker 4: has the power to say, you know what, we're not
Speaker 4: doing this. We're going to organize in the structure that
Speaker 4: makes the most sense for the most.
Speaker 5: Amount of people.
Speaker 4: Maybe not perfect sense for everybody, but the best for
Speaker 4: the greater good.
Speaker 3: If you were a fan of one of these teams
Speaker 3: that was either one of these schools, I should say
Speaker 3: that it was either deciding to remain loyal to the
Speaker 3: Mountain West and re up or move on to this
Speaker 3: new version of the PAC twelve. What would you prefer,
Speaker 3: because again, they're kind of the same. I found it
Speaker 3: to be pretty you know, not that all of them did,
Speaker 3: but to see that some schools were like, yeah, we're
Speaker 3: just going to stay in the Mountain West. Like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, I feel like it's a rare when it
Speaker 3: comes to realignment, deciding to stay put whenever you do
Speaker 3: have an option to go elsewhere potentially for some more money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think there's still power in Brandon.
Speaker 4: Like UTEP officially joined the Mountain West today, and that's
Speaker 4: a conference they've been trying to get into since it
Speaker 4: formed twenty five odd years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're winners in this whole thing, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think even though it's a water down version
Speaker 4: of what it originally was, I think they're still stoked
Speaker 4: to say they're in the Mountain West. And I think
Speaker 4: Boise State fans, the Colorado State fans are stoked to
Speaker 4: say that they're in the PAC twelve, even if it's
Speaker 4: a shrunken husk of what it used to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the way this whole thing played out with the
Speaker 3: deadline to decide what you're going to do, like while
Speaker 3: the football season's going on because it's two conferences that
Speaker 3: like nationally, don't.
Speaker 2: Move the needle.
Speaker 3: It didn't get a lot of attention, but I kind
Speaker 3: of feel like the way this played out, it was
Speaker 3: an old timer when it comes to realignment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they obviously they had a scheduling agreement that
Speaker 4: was in place for this season and with the idea
Speaker 4: of you know what, in time, we'll we'll work something
Speaker 4: out to merge and all fourteen of us will we'll
Speaker 4: have a solution that works the best. And then at
Speaker 4: some point that relationship soured over money. The Mountain West
Speaker 4: wanted more money from the Pac twelve schools than they
Speaker 4: were willing to pay, so they were just like, you
Speaker 4: know what, we don't need you guys, So we're just
Speaker 4: gonna We're gonna come raid your coffers and take your
Speaker 4: five best teams and suck it.
Speaker 2: Essentially, that's essentially what happened.
Speaker 3: All right, last question for you right now, who do
Speaker 3: you think not We'll get it in again. I'm asking
Speaker 3: you to predict the future essentially here, who do you
Speaker 3: think will be the Heisman Trophy winner this season?
Speaker 4: Well, last time you asked me, I said Jalen Milroe
Speaker 4: and that answer looks only more correct as the time
Speaker 4: goes on, So I'm gonna stick with that, all right.
Speaker 3: So Travis Hunter, I mean, I don't have a problem
Speaker 3: with anybody claiming that guy as as talented as anybody
Speaker 3: in the country. He is sensational and he's worthy of
Speaker 3: all the praise that he gets. But let's say Milroe
Speaker 3: falls off, which I don't see happening. Like if Travis
Speaker 3: Hunter ends up winning this award in Colorado, and again,
Speaker 3: they look really good now compared to what they look
Speaker 3: like a few weeks ago, So maybe they end up
Speaker 3: having a really good season. But like, if they're a
Speaker 3: seven and five type team and he's able to win,
Speaker 3: it wouldn't that kind of prove that the Dion hype
Speaker 3: was worth something because he's great, But like part of
Speaker 3: why he's such a known player is because of the
Speaker 3: whole story of how he followed Dion to the FCS
Speaker 3: level and then followed him to Colorado, And like, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say he wouldn't be deserving, but like
Speaker 3: that would like he's also benefiting from Colorado. They could
Speaker 3: lose every game, they're still gonna get on national television
Speaker 3: and they're gonna be talked about. That's not to discredit him,
Speaker 3: but it kind of feels like the one rare thing
Speaker 3: where you could benefit from. You know, even if they
Speaker 3: keep losing and he keeps playing well, I still think
Speaker 3: he's gonna get his accolades, which is which doesn't usually
Speaker 3: happen in football. Right, you could be really great, but
Speaker 3: if your team is not great, you're not going to
Speaker 3: get the same amount of love.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 4: And I think it would be the one instance of
Speaker 4: someone that's not a Deon Sanders family member attaching themselves
Speaker 4: to Dion and coming out better on the other end
Speaker 4: than they started, well said, which would be breaking a trend.
Speaker 5: But I mean, I.
Speaker 4: Think that if his numbers stay where they are in
Speaker 4: Colorado wins seven games, I would be thrilled to see.
Speaker 5: Him win the Heisman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's special.
Speaker 4: In a world where Dion never enters coaching, Travis Hunter
Speaker 4: would be at FORDT State right now, and who knows
Speaker 4: if you'd be playing both ways.
Speaker 5: But I mean, Florest State looks like it's.
Speaker 4: On its way to a four and eighth season and
Speaker 4: he would not be in the Heisman conversation there, So yeah,
Speaker 4: I think I think he has benefitted from that, and
Speaker 4: and if so.
Speaker 5: Good for him. It's a shame.
Speaker 4: This is an old Bill Simmons idea, But it's a
Speaker 4: shame that there's not some sort of threshold to where
Speaker 4: we just give out one Heisman for if if you
Speaker 4: have such a badass season, we're gonna give you a
Speaker 4: Heisman trophy no matter. And if you don't reach that word,
Speaker 4: maybe we just won't give out a Heisman this year.
Speaker 4: I saw the because someone posted Ashton Janty's numbers through
Speaker 4: this point in the season compared with other Heisman running backs,
Speaker 4: and it reminded me how disappointing and spare it was
Speaker 4: that mark Ingram won it in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 5: Yep, so I'd love to see.
Speaker 4: You know, if no one rises to that level, then hey,
Speaker 4: no one won the Heisman this year. But if if
Speaker 4: Milroe and Hunter and Janty continue at their pace, then hey,
Speaker 4: let's give out three Heismans this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Those, I mean, all those guys are special. Yanty is,
Speaker 3: I mean, he is He's appointment viewing. If you just
Speaker 3: like seeing dudes run all over people, and in any moment,
Speaker 3: you won't be shocked if he takes one of the house.
Speaker 3: So yeah, he's been he's been sensational, and you've been sensational, Zach.
Speaker 3: As always, we appreciate you making time for us. Enjoy
Speaker 3: your week and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 5: Brother, sound good? Thanks?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: That Zach Barnett a Football scoop dot Com. Good stuff
Speaker 3: as always. I remember Endomican suet Nebraska not winning the
Speaker 3: Heisman in whatever year that was. He had some couple
Speaker 3: of really good years there. I remember thinking to myself,
Speaker 3: all right, a defensive guy will never win it. And then, really,
Speaker 3: you know, let's be real, it's not just about how
Speaker 3: good you are as a player. It's about how good
Speaker 3: your team is. All right, quick break, We'll come back
Speaker 3: on the other side. Keep this thing rolling along. It
Speaker 3: is coffee and Company, and we are feel about Thorton's
Speaker 3: right here on SportsTalk seven ninety. We're talking about the
Speaker 3: conference realignment that's going on between the new PAC twelve
Speaker 3: and the Mountain West.
Speaker 2: And for those that are interested, it may not be
Speaker 2: many of you.
Speaker 3: In fact, if you are interested, it may just be
Speaker 3: because of the basketball side of a. Gonzaga is going
Speaker 3: to be joining the new PAC twelve as a basketball
Speaker 3: only member. Which certainly will benefit them. And it's still
Speaker 3: like you can still say the same thing you've said
Speaker 3: about Gonzaga basketball, but you know, it's just not as
Speaker 3: bad as it used to be. And what I mean
Speaker 3: by that is, yeah, they're good. They've proven by the
Speaker 3: way to be legit. I mean, they've made the Sweet
Speaker 3: sixteen I don't know how many times consecutively, but they've
Speaker 3: Their streak currently is the longest streak in college basketball,
Speaker 3: and it may be the longest streak, like one of
Speaker 3: the longest streaks ever in college troops as far as
Speaker 3: that many consecutive trips to the second weekend, so they
Speaker 3: were in the West Coast Conference playing you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: Saint Mary's would be the only school I think in
Speaker 3: the last I don't know, Five's b why you left
Speaker 3: the league at one point, and then after that it
Speaker 3: was really only Saint Mary's they could consistently give them
Speaker 3: any any real challenge. San Francisco would have a decent
Speaker 3: team every now and then, but like you know, Loyola, Marymount, Pacific, Pepperdine, Portland,
Speaker 3: Saint Mary's, San Diego, San Francisco, Santa Clara. I mean
Speaker 3: that that was a league that like, no matter what
Speaker 3: happened in that league, you could always say that, like
Speaker 3: you knew from January on, Gonzaga was not going to
Speaker 3: play anybody that is going to challenge them. And to
Speaker 3: be fair, it never hurt them as bad as as
Speaker 3: I thought it would.
Speaker 2: Like it. They never got shell shocked.
Speaker 3: I mean, they've lost, but like you know, they would
Speaker 3: get to the second Again, there's sweet sixteen streak. Let
Speaker 3: me see if I can pull it up here and
Speaker 3: see and see if I how many times it's been,
Speaker 3: because I was about to say a big number and
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, well, wait a second, it hasn't been hasn't
Speaker 3: been that long, has it? So, yeah, Gonzaga has been
Speaker 3: to the Sweet sixteen. The last time they didn't go
Speaker 3: to the Sweet sixteen was in twenty fourteen. So ten
Speaker 3: straight years they've been to the Sweet sixteen. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's pretty insane if you think about it. But they
Speaker 3: might have got there because they got a really good seed,
Speaker 3: because they had a really good record and a lot
Speaker 3: of those wins came against those teams that just mentioned,
Speaker 3: so getting there it's impressive. But like you can also claim, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: if they were gifted a really high seed, because they
Speaker 3: had nearly thirty wins. A lot of teams could probably
Speaker 3: do that. So again, now as you know, as of now,
Speaker 3: they're going to be playing against well, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I guess this starts in what twenty maybe twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: I don't know when they leave. But Washington State, Oregon State,
Speaker 3: Colorado State, Boise State, Utah State, Fresno State, and San
Speaker 3: Diego State. Those are currently the members of the new
Speaker 3: PAC twelve. So that you know, Gonzaga is playing better
Speaker 3: teams than they used to play in league play, but
Speaker 3: it's still going to be a weaker league than the
Speaker 3: Power five. And there is still a Power five, by
Speaker 3: the way, in college hoops because the PAC twelve is
Speaker 3: gone and the Big East exists only in basketball. As
Speaker 3: far as the Mountain West, you've got Air Force, Nevada,
Speaker 3: New Mexico, San Jose State, UNLV, and Wyoming and then
Speaker 3: Hawaii is going to be a football only member in
Speaker 3: the Mountain West. Or maybe they are. I think they are. Now,
Speaker 3: Maybe that sound right. I know they're you're you're on
Speaker 3: the right track. You may be exactly right, but I don't.
Speaker 6: Know for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah they're.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're currently in in Yeah, they're they're a league
Speaker 3: member only in football because you know, football pays the bills,
Speaker 3: and you know, they gotta they gotta. You know, they
Speaker 3: need the money that they get from their current Mountain
Speaker 3: West arrangement to fund everything else. And they don't i mean,
Speaker 3: traveling any other sport from Hawaii to play. You know,
Speaker 3: a twenty or eighteen game league schedule in basketball just
Speaker 3: isn't isn't feasible. I think they're in the Mountain West
Speaker 3: in football and in basketball. I think they might be
Speaker 3: in like the WCC or the maybe the WHACK.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: All right, it's coffee and Company. Feel by Thornton's here
Speaker 3: on Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you guys hanging out
Speaker 3: with us. Some breaking news in the NFL that has
Speaker 3: kind of been brewing, and that is that DeVante Adams
Speaker 3: has let the Raiders know he wants to be traded.
Speaker 3: And he's a good player. Obviously he's got you know,
Speaker 3: Gardner Minshew as his quarterback, and I'm sure that's actor
Speaker 3: and why he's not happy. But you know, i'd be careful.
Speaker 3: You know, Diva receivers being Diva receivers in multiple different
Speaker 3: spots I guess it doesn't mean you won't get an opportunity,
Speaker 3: but I don't know. You got to think his best
Speaker 3: days are probably behind him. But if somebody can get
Speaker 3: him on a good deal, he could be a real
Speaker 3: nice weapon, a nice piece to add to a team
Speaker 3: that is already pretty good. Just give him another weapon,
Speaker 3: give him to Lamar Jackson. I'd love to see him
Speaker 3: with another receiver he's already got. I mean, that's not
Speaker 3: to say that he doesn't have good weapons this year,
Speaker 3: because you're seeing now what Lamar can do whenever. He's
Speaker 3: got a lot of help. And it made no sense
Speaker 3: how they lost early on. But you could also chalk
Speaker 3: it up to, hey, some new pieces, everybody's kind of
Speaker 3: getting used to each other. But they look really good
Speaker 3: in the last two weeks, and they just completely took
Speaker 3: it to a team that before Sunday Night everybody said
Speaker 3: was the best team in the NFL.
Speaker 2: That's the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 3: So nice to see them respond with wins against Dallas
Speaker 3: and wins against Buffalo these last couple of weeks. After
Speaker 3: a close loss to Kansas City on the road to
Speaker 3: open the season and then a head scratcher at home
Speaker 3: to the Raiders. By the way Derrick Henry, I don't
Speaker 3: know if it's because he played I don't think anybody
Speaker 3: would tell you that Derrick Henry like isn't really good.
Speaker 3: But maybe it's because he played for a team that's
Speaker 3: never really accomplished anything. And yes, I'm taking a shot
Speaker 3: at the Titans because they're a division rival with my Colts.
Speaker 3: But I don't know people ever realize, like, since he's
Speaker 3: entered the NFL, Derick Henry has been like, he's been
Speaker 3: really good. And yes, running backs do slow down. They
Speaker 3: age much different than any other position in the NFL,
Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it, right, but he never really
Speaker 3: showed signs of that, and the Titans let him walk.
Speaker 3: Jerry Jones didn't want him, and he made it clear
Speaker 3: by the way Derrick Henry did that he wanted to
Speaker 3: be in Dallas. And now they got, you know, they
Speaker 3: got old ass isekil Elliott still trying to you know,
Speaker 3: revive his career back in Dallas. He's not the only
Speaker 3: running back, but it is funny to see him, I mean,
Speaker 3: and he's a great example.
Speaker 2: By the way. I don't feel like is he Elliott's
Speaker 2: that old? He's not.
Speaker 3: But as an NFL like running back, you just now know,
Speaker 3: if you've been around as long as is Uh as
Speaker 3: he has, you're considered a grandpa in the NFL at
Speaker 3: that position. But here's some numbers that really I think
Speaker 3: put in perspective how good Derreck Henry's been in the
Speaker 3: NFL since two thousand, so the last twenty four years.
Speaker 3: The best yards per carry on career carries two thousand
Speaker 3: and beyond. So like, if you've had two thousand carries,
Speaker 3: here are the guys who had the most yards per carry.
Speaker 3: Lashawn McCoy three point nine to three, Adrian Peterson four
Speaker 3: point oh three, Ladanian Tomlinson four point oh four, Marshawn
Speaker 3: Lynch four point two to two. That was five through two.
Speaker 3: Number one nearly two more yards per carry better than
Speaker 3: Marshawn Lynch is Derrick Henry. I mean it's not just
Speaker 3: I mean it can He's not, as you know, he's
Speaker 3: not played as many years as those guys did. But
Speaker 3: currently a guy that's been in the league for how
Speaker 3: long win did Derrick Henry enter the league? Again, I
Speaker 3: feel like he's been in the league forever. But I
Speaker 3: think I think I'm viewing it that way because we're
Speaker 3: talking about a running back, and those guys play one year,
Speaker 3: it might as well count as four. And that's what
Speaker 3: it kind of seems like. He's thirty years old. He
Speaker 3: entered the league in twenty thirteen. So this is a
Speaker 3: guy that's been a running back in the NFL for
Speaker 3: ten years and he's not slowed down.
Speaker 2: John, If you ever get bored, becaich. I don't think
Speaker 2: you do get bored.
Speaker 3: You always stay busy, all right, yeah, I think you're
Speaker 3: you eliminate boredom quickly. I try to he You'll find
Speaker 3: the way you're productive. You'll find something productive to do.
Speaker 3: But if there ever is a chance where you get bored,
Speaker 3: go look at Derrick henry high school highlights, not just
Speaker 3: because the guy was unstoppable, but it truly looks like
Speaker 3: he was a video game created player playing against young
Speaker 3: small children. It would be like Will Clark big sasquatch
Speaker 3: right him playing in my son's four and five year
Speaker 3: old flag football league. That's what it looked like when
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry was playing high school football. That used to
Speaker 3: occasionally show those highlights during his NFL games because it
Speaker 3: was just it's like something you'd never seen before. So Anyways,
Speaker 3: there's your NFL news of the day. I mean, we
Speaker 3: can get into more NFL stuff later, but you know,
Speaker 3: I don't really want to transition to that as far
Speaker 3: as other NFL stuff, because we're you know, I got
Speaker 3: to keep this show on track. John, I missed you
Speaker 3: yesterday because without the music to kind of guide me
Speaker 3: for an exit, clock management way off. And that's not
Speaker 3: Austin's fault. That's just something I gotta I gotta be
Speaker 3: aware of. Right, we've gone to the bench. We bring
Speaker 3: in Austin, who does a great job, but you know
Speaker 3: he's he's he's he's our filling, right, he's the guy
Speaker 3: who and we love him, but like he you know,
Speaker 3: he's probably just gonna let me ramble and John I
Speaker 3: had and by the way, I did have to tell John, look,
Speaker 3: you I need you to play this music because if
Speaker 3: you don't, we're gonna end up having a very mismanaged
Speaker 3: clock each and that's not good for the show.
Speaker 2: And John has done a great job with that.
Speaker 3: And I'll I'll tell Austin next time because I think,
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you've always been great to work with.
Speaker 3: But I remember being pretty adamant, like no here's what
Speaker 3: you do. You play me if you even if I
Speaker 3: even if you feel like I'm in the middle of something,
Speaker 3: and I got a lot more to go. Play the
Speaker 3: music and I'll find the next sit There is a
Speaker 3: threshold I always look out for, and it and it
Speaker 3: and it's needed, so so so thank you real quick
Speaker 3: before we before we take our next time out. NFL.
Speaker 3: I'm not NFL NBA media day stuff is like not.
Speaker 3: I mean to me, it's not. I don't find it entertaining.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm an NBA fan, but I actually feel
Speaker 3: like my my love of the NBA has faded a
Speaker 3: lot in recent years for unknown reasons. But this is
Speaker 3: my favorite stories thus far as NFL or not NFL
Speaker 3: NBA meet teams around the league or having media days,
Speaker 3: press conferences, all that kind of stuff. This is a
Speaker 3: really good team prank. It's harmless, but it's also really funny.
Speaker 3: So there's a guy by the name of John kung
Speaker 3: Car who I got to admit, not familiar with on Cancar,
Speaker 3: but he is a four year guy. He's been in
Speaker 3: the league since twenty nineteen. He was drafted by the
Speaker 3: Memphis Grizzlies, played for their g League team, but he
Speaker 3: recently signed a three year, nineteen million dollars contract extension
Speaker 3: with the Grizzlies, So he's been in the le know,
Speaker 3: but he's been a guy that's always been probably like
Speaker 3: third string for being honest, grinded his way up for
Speaker 3: the Memphis Hustle in the G League and then he
Speaker 3: got an opportunity to sign a three year deal. So
Speaker 3: he's not a recognizable NBA player, and really not even
Speaker 3: a recognizable guy for his own team because he didn't
Speaker 3: play a whole lot. So he saw one of the
Speaker 3: players that the Grizzlies recently drafted, Jalen Wells, who was
Speaker 3: the second round pick out of Washington State, and he
Speaker 3: showed up. These are teammates, and he saw his new
Speaker 3: teammate meeting the veteran can Car. He saw him and
Speaker 3: approached him and played a little prank on him that
Speaker 3: I thought was hilarious.
Speaker 6: I see him at a Wheredelia Is. I'm with my
Speaker 6: girlfriend at the time, and I'm just like, hey, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna go up to him because I've never met him yet.
Speaker 6: I wasn't in Vegas or anything. I haven't met him yet.
Speaker 6: I see him over there, I'm like, hey, I'm asking
Speaker 6: him for a picture. See recognized me, like follow me
Speaker 6: and take a picture. So I go up to him
Speaker 6: and I'm like, hey, I'm John, I'm a huge Grizzlies fan.
Speaker 6: Can I please take a picture with you? I shook
Speaker 6: his hand and everything. So my girlfriend's behind me and
Speaker 6: just taking a picture, and I'm like, dude, I appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Good luck this season, and then we just walk away.
Speaker 7: I took the picture and I walked around the corner.
Speaker 7: The cashier came out to me and said, do you
Speaker 7: know you just take a picture with John? Teld me
Speaker 7: his name was John, and then he was like, no,
Speaker 7: it's your teammate John conshar.
Speaker 5: That makes sense.
Speaker 7: That makes a lot of sense, because it was slightly
Speaker 7: awkward when we took the picture, like something was up
Speaker 7: I see him.
Speaker 2: Is that I mean that is that a fair prank
Speaker 2: to play on a rookie. I think it's hilarious.
Speaker 3: I mean I kind of feel bad for the rookie
Speaker 3: because if it was me, I would feel terrible.
Speaker 2: But also I think con what they call him, I
Speaker 2: think I said it incorrectly.
Speaker 3: He's well aware of like he the reason he did
Speaker 3: it is because he probably knew. Yeah, there's a good
Speaker 3: chance this guy he's now my teammate, he's a rook
Speaker 3: I'm kind of a vet now he didn't know who
Speaker 3: I am, And.
Speaker 2: That's not really that crazy.
Speaker 3: But you wouldn't want to be the new guy at work,
Speaker 3: especially in that line of work, and not know everybody
Speaker 3: on your team, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's just though, Yeah, of course, pretty funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I thought that was pretty well. But
Speaker 3: that's my favorite story so far of NBA Media Days,
Speaker 3: which got to be honest with you, it's the only
Speaker 3: story I've I've seen, so it'll probably be the only
Speaker 3: one that I really care about.
Speaker 2: But let's get to a quick break.
Speaker 3: We'll come back on the other side, finish up the
Speaker 3: four o'clock hour again. You know I I shared with
Speaker 3: you the tweets if you're not on Twitter, what John
Speaker 3: Rostein had to say about his trip to Louisville to
Speaker 3: see the Cards practice. But he did give a little
Speaker 3: like a thirty five second.
Speaker 2: Up.
Speaker 3: He did a video that he put up on on
Speaker 3: his Twitter that kind of describes what he thinks Louisville
Speaker 3: can do this year and whatnot. And we'll let you
Speaker 3: hear it on the other side, it's Coffee and Company.
Speaker 3: We are feel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk
Speaker 3: seven n some more NFL breaking news that may interest
Speaker 3: you may not. But Von Miller for the Bills, you know,
Speaker 3: still one of the best teams in the NFL, has
Speaker 3: been suspended by the league for four games, meaning he'll
Speaker 3: be out until October twenty eighth. And the reason is
Speaker 3: because he's violated the NFL's personal conduct policy. And there
Speaker 3: hasn't been any official reason given other than that. But
Speaker 3: he was accused of felony assault last year. He of
Speaker 3: course denied the allegations. The alleged victim eventually recanted. So
Speaker 3: I guess what this means is that the alleged victim
Speaker 3: probably cooperated with the NFL, which I don't know. Just
Speaker 3: not to defend anybody who potentially assaulted somebody where it was,
Speaker 3: you know, a felony type issue, not to defend those
Speaker 3: people like they shouldn't be punished, but I don't know,
Speaker 3: just I feel like there's dudes who have clearly it's
Speaker 3: been proven that they've done some awful stuff and they
Speaker 3: have not got a suspension like this before. But anyways,
Speaker 3: a big day in the NFL, which apparently when it
Speaker 3: comes to Hopkins, uh uh not Hopkins.
Speaker 2: Adams, the Raiders are, you know.
Speaker 3: Reportedly, I think it might have been Chefter who said
Speaker 3: that the Raiders want a second round pick and additional
Speaker 3: compensation if they're going to give up DeVante Adams, which
Speaker 3: I don't know. If you're if you're a team that
Speaker 3: feels like your window is shrinking as far as making
Speaker 3: a run to a Super Bowl, I think you could
Speaker 3: give up a second round pick for this guy. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's talented enough. Obviously, you know, his best football's probably
Speaker 3: behind him. But still he's you know, I can see
Speaker 3: many teams being interested in, uh in taking a run
Speaker 3: at him? All right, five oot two five seven seventy
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Speaker 3: I don't think you guys get notified when I do this,
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Speaker 3: that that puts it in like a separate window for me.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot I want to get to, but
Speaker 3: I'll save that with the o'clock hour. But for now,
Speaker 3: let's go to the phone lines again, five or two,
Speaker 3: five to seven, one seventy nine hundred. Let's welcome in Gary, Gary.
Speaker 3: You're on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 8: What's up, hey, Nick, Cardinals fan.
Speaker 2: Love your show me, thank you appreciate that.
Speaker 8: And I was just had a question I heard I
Speaker 8: think you said this on the air. I don't know
Speaker 8: how long ago, but did not Kentucky have to forfeit
Speaker 8: a bunch of games?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: They they had to forfeit I think it was ten
Speaker 3: wins during that twenty twenty one season. Yeah, and there
Speaker 3: might have been some additional games attached to other seasons.
Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure, but yeah, when that happened, it
Speaker 3: was really just that one season they had where they
Speaker 3: won ten games that you know, technically was vacated.
Speaker 8: So I was just wondering why that hasn't made much news.
Speaker 8: If Louisville have done that, Oh my god, people have heartdack.
Speaker 5: Kentucky.
Speaker 2: I mean it was.
Speaker 3: Well get away with it by who you mean, like
Speaker 3: in the court of public opinion or what, because I
Speaker 3: mean obviously they were punished. Let me here's what I
Speaker 3: think happened. We now know that what they're accused of
Speaker 3: doing that led to them, and again they did it,
Speaker 3: they accepted the punishment. That's now a big part of
Speaker 3: how college sports works. I mean, they had players that
Speaker 3: were making money for jobs they didn't really have. I
Speaker 3: think that's what ended up being what happened. And yeah,
Speaker 3: technically at the time it wasn't allowed, which is why
Speaker 3: they were punished with wins being vacated. But I think
Speaker 3: the shock value and you know, it's just not there
Speaker 3: anymore because you know, here we are just three years
Speaker 3: removed from that season and now every player playing high
Speaker 3: level college sports is probably you know, making money from
Speaker 3: some type of nisle arrangement or not. So you know,
Speaker 3: i'd say, you know, I'd say that's probably why it
Speaker 3: wasn't a bigger story, just because now you know, when
Speaker 3: you talk about players getting paid, you're talking about, Hey,
Speaker 3: I hope our team has the money to pay players
Speaker 3: because you need to do that now. It used to be, man,
Speaker 3: we better not get caught paying players.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, okay, the lot will get a win back
Speaker 8: from them in them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So uh, it's really silly because they vacate your wins,
Speaker 3: but they don't actually give the wins to the to
Speaker 3: the other teams, so like apparently nobody played that day.
Speaker 2: It's kind of silly, but.
Speaker 3: We at least at least the streak that we have
Speaker 3: against Kentucky that I hope comes to an end. It's
Speaker 3: now at least one loss less.
Speaker 2: Technically, So there you go.
Speaker 8: There you go.
Speaker 2: Thanks for the call, Gary, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean again, I I mean it was
Speaker 3: talked about. In fact, in fact, I think it probably
Speaker 3: would have been even less of a of a story
Speaker 3: slash talking point if Stoops didn't like ignore it for
Speaker 3: a while, right like he later came out and I
Speaker 3: think he gave a pretty honest answer. But if you remember,
Speaker 3: like they did media day that day and then they
Speaker 3: did the news dump after all the reporters left like
Speaker 3: they'd you know, because they you know, it was just
Speaker 3: a what if your Barnhart and your Stoops. I guess
Speaker 3: if it was something that was looked at as like
Speaker 3: a big time no no, now, you probably would have
Speaker 3: been in front of it a little bit more and
Speaker 3: wanted to address it. But because of where we are
Speaker 3: now with college sports, like I kind of get why
Speaker 3: they were just like, you know, who cares I mean,
Speaker 3: still it's not a good look, but it'd be a
Speaker 3: much different situation if that happened and it was still
Speaker 3: something now that like wasn't allowed. Now it's not only allowed.
Speaker 3: You better be damn good at making sure players are
Speaker 3: getting paid or you're not going to have success. All right,
Speaker 3: let's finish strong here. We got another hour to go
Speaker 3: and a lot more to get into. I will finally
Speaker 3: let you hear that John Rostein piece of sound. I
Speaker 3: do want to talk a little bit more about Louisville
Speaker 3: Live because I'm not the guy that's usually gonna tell you, hey,
Speaker 3: we better really show out because there's going to be
Speaker 3: high school kids here. We want to impress them. Like
Speaker 3: to me as a grown up, it just kind of
Speaker 3: you know, I understand it's important. But there's one guy
Speaker 3: coming to Louisville Live that, like I am gonna say it,
Speaker 3: Please show up and make Louisville basketball look really good
Speaker 3: because this is a guy that is really special. So
Speaker 3: we'll get to that in a lot more. It is
Speaker 3: coffee and Company, and we are fueled bout Thornton's right
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