WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:07.200 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:16.280 Sports Talk seven to nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee. 3 00:00:15.759 --> 00:00:17.239 Once again. We've got you covered. 4 00:00:17.320 --> 00:00:21.320 On Saturday for game day coverage, Louisville and SMU will 5 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:25.160 have the pregame show starting at eleven am, hosted by myself, 6 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:28.679 presented by Pillow Windows and Doors of Central Kentucky and 7 00:00:28.760 --> 00:00:29.920 Jefferson Animal Hospitals. 8 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:31.199 So we'll go from eleven to noon. 9 00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:33.719 Obviously, kickoff is at noon, and as soon as the 10 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:36.159 game ends, we'll react to it right here in the 11 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:40.439 Louisville Football postgame Show presented by Alex Roy Lawyers Sue 12 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:43.359 Distracted Driver dot Com, hopefully reacting to not only a 13 00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:47.960 win for Louisville, but a clean football game without as 14 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:52.200 many mistakes as we saw in South Bend. Mistakes that 15 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:55.079 you know, really the opponent had very little or nothing 16 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:57.159 to do with. But we shall see. I'm eager to 17 00:00:57.159 --> 00:00:59.200 see what this team looks like coming off of a 18 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:01.560 disappointing loss. Losing the Notre Dame at Notre Dame is 19 00:01:01.640 --> 00:01:04.680 usually what everybody does when they go there, and I 20 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:06.480 know Northern Illinois they were able to leave with a 21 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:09.680 victory but still a loss is not a bad thing there, 22 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:12.159 but just to know that you made so many mistakes 23 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:14.560 and just really, I mean, I know they weren't trying 24 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:16.560 to lose the game, but there were four or five 25 00:01:16.599 --> 00:01:19.599 plays throughout that you're thinking, Okay, well, I mean, you're 26 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:21.799 not gonna win if you do that, and despite doing 27 00:01:21.799 --> 00:01:23.239 all that, you still had a chance. 28 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:25.519 So I'll stop talking about it. 29 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:30.560 Because it's it's it still pisses me off, but we'll 30 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:32.319 move on. And you know what takes me from being 31 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:35.439 pissed off to happy is welcoming in mister Zach Barnett 32 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:38.879 of FootballScoop dot dot com. How are we doing this afternoon, Zach? 33 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:42.159 Well, you know, Nick, when I come on your show, 34 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:43.799 I go from happy to pissed off. 35 00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:46.920 So I guess we're yeah, we'll balance each other out right. 36 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:50.959 Life's all about balance, my man. So I'll start with 37 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:54.120 the Alabama Georgia game. I'm not sure it could have 38 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:57.560 been more entertaining to those that were watching without a 39 00:01:57.599 --> 00:01:59.599 dog in the fight, or that made a wager that 40 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:01.560 just wanted to see an entertaining game. It wasn't that 41 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:05.200 at the beginning. But man, what a finish. I mean, 42 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:07.480 it's tough to know. It's still relatively early in the season, 43 00:02:07.519 --> 00:02:09.800 but like, nobody will be shocked if it's those two 44 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:12.520 potentially playing for the national championship, right. 45 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:19.439 I would say shocked, No, But the odds of it 46 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:25.000 happening are probably less than one would assume, even if 47 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:28.360 we take at face value that those are two of 48 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:30.240 the two best teams of the country. 49 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:32.840 More so because of the way they would have to 50 00:02:33.080 --> 00:02:36.199 line up in the bracket, or because maybe one of 51 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:39.039 them's not maybe not not not as good as people think. 52 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:43.520 Both a little column any little more Calum b Yeah, 53 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:47.080 I mean Alabama moved to number one in the country 54 00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:49.520 in a game where over three quarters of the game 55 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:53.400 they were outscored thirty four to thirteen. I mean, they 56 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:56.680 deserve all the credit in the world for going out 57 00:02:56.879 --> 00:02:58.919 and winning that game, But that was a start that 58 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:05.479 Georgia was clearly shell shocked after that game or to 59 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:09.000 start that game, and you know, credit to Alabama for 60 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:12.159 putting them in that position. But once the the wave 61 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:14.960 of emotion fell off, Georgia was the better team over 62 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:17.599 the final three quarters. And at the same time, we've 63 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:21.919 seen a Georgia team that now beat Kentucky by one, 64 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:26.159 scored six points in the first half against Clemson, and 65 00:03:26.599 --> 00:03:30.199 had what seven at halftime against Alabama? So this is 66 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:35.199 slow starts. I think no longer can be excused away. 67 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:40.360 I mean they're basically pittering away half of their meaningful 68 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:41.520 snaps so far this season. 69 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:46.159 Yeah, I mean that Kentucky loss. At the time, you know, 70 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:49.560 not Kentucky lost that the close, close win against Kentucky, 71 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:51.759 although it kind of looked like a loss because they 72 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:54.840 fell in the rankings, But Georgia's had games like that 73 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:57.599 before in the last two years, actually against teams they 74 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:00.199 ended up not being that great. But I guess at 75 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:02.240 this point it looks a little more like a tell However, 76 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:05.960 you know, the Old Miss Kentucky game, I mean, did that? 77 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:09.080 Did that tell you more about Kentucky or more about 78 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:10.840 Old Miss? 79 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:15.479 I definitely have more respect for Kentucky's defense than I 80 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:19.079 did before. I don't think we can wipe that away 81 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:21.040 as Georgia has just had an off night whatever. 82 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:23.639 Clearly Kentucky has. 83 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:27.279 Earned has earned respect and had a lot to do 84 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:30.639 with why Georgia played so poorly. And then the Old 85 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:34.319 Miss I never bought that they were the number six 86 00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:38.040 team in the Country anything like that. But I thought, 87 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:40.720 I guess, shame on me, because I thought that scoring 88 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:44.519 fifty on Wake Forest and seventy six on Firmament, the 89 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:47.560 minimum they'd score on Kentucky would be, you know, twenty 90 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:51.480 four to twenty eight. And I overlooked what paper tigers 91 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:55.680 and what frauds that program is. So I'm disappointed that 92 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:57.920 they're even ranked at all this week because what isn't it? 93 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:00.000 But isn't it? Also it's not just the program. 94 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:02.360 I'm like, you know, Lane Kiffin's a fine coach, but 95 00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:05.040 like he really hasn't really ever accomplished anything as a 96 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:07.279 head coach. And I you know, saying that, it's not 97 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:09.120 like a it's not a hot take, it's not like, 98 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:12.000 you know, it's not crazy. But I think just the 99 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:14.360 perception of Lane and I guess the momentum that Old 100 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:17.480 misscarried into this year, Like, really, that result isn't that 101 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:20.199 surprising when you consider Lane Kiffin as a coach. 102 00:05:20.079 --> 00:05:24.600 Right, Yeah, I mean he's had He did beat Penn 103 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.560 State in the Peach Bowl last year, but Penn State 104 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:30.079 hasn't beaten anyone worth a crap in ten years. 105 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:31.560 They're kind of similar. 106 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:38.439 Yeah, So I mean I went on our podcast this 107 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:41.600 past year or this this past August and said that 108 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:44.959 ole Miss was the second biggest paper Tiger program in 109 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:47.839 the country to Penn State. And then I went out 110 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:50.480 there and totally forgot that and thought that there's no 111 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:51.720 way they'd lose to Kentucky. 112 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:54.839 Yeah, I mean the Kentucky got hammered by South Carolina 113 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:58.399 and that was the result that I think stuck out 114 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:00.399 with a lot of people and they were close with Georgia. 115 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:02.600 But yeah, I mean, that was a huge win for 116 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:04.519 Mark Steps, probably the biggest win of his career, just 117 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:06.439 considering where ole Miss was ranked. But I think if 118 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:08.480 you're Kentucky, you still trying to figure out who you are. 119 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:11.399 I mean, still of it an impressive win, But which 120 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:11.759 one are you? 121 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:11.879 Are? 122 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:14.199 You more likely the team that you know can get 123 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:15.800 stops and find a way to win against a great 124 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:18.720 Ole Miss team or a team that somehow makes no sense. 125 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:21.399 Even more so now it's been weeks removed, but that 126 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:24.120 lost to South Carolina was just was really really bad. 127 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:26.319 But Zack Bournetta Football Scoop is our guest joining us 128 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:30.519 here talking some college football. Right now, Let's say, of 129 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:36.319 these five teams, Texas Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Tennessee. Would 130 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:38.639 you say, would you take one of those teams or 131 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:40.480 the field to win the national championship? I think I 132 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:41.759 know the answer, but I'll let you answer. 133 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:45.560 Just by pure odds, it have to be Ohio. 134 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:50.040 State, Okay, of those, I mean go ahead. 135 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:54.040 Of those are the conference So I think anybody, if 136 00:06:54.040 --> 00:06:55.600 you're just playing pure odds, would have to take a 137 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:56.120 lot of state. 138 00:06:56.480 --> 00:07:00.560 Who do you think is maybe know who would you 139 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:05.000 say outside of those five could could realistically find themselves, 140 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:07.120 you know, as a as a title contender, And there 141 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:09.000 may be more than just one. But it just seems 142 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:10.480 as if right now those are the teams that have 143 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:12.720 all the momentum as far as looking like they may 144 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:14.000 actually be able to win the whole thing. 145 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:18.319 Outside of those five, I think you have to go, honestly, 146 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:21.360 I mean, Miami, really. 147 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:25.000 You just you look at the way the bracket breaks. 148 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:27.040 I mean I say, really like, I'm surprised, Zach, But 149 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:28.759 I can't. I can't give you another one that would 150 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:30.319 that would be you know that I think would be 151 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:30.879 more deserving. 152 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:35.439 Actually yeah, I mean if the season ended to day, 153 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:39.600 they're there have a clear spot to the number three seed, 154 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:43.639 and then you're you're gonna have to beat somebody really 155 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:45.639 good in the in the quarterfinals, and that's not gonna 156 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:49.759 be easy, but nobody has an easy spot through the quarterfinals. 157 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:55.000 And then after that, I mean, can't they The baseline 158 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:57.199 talent on that roster has clearly risen. They're good on 159 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:00.319 the offensive lines, and Kim Ward is just a a 160 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:03.199 baller and gives them a chance to win every single game. 161 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:06.439 They haven't lost yet and they're still ranked number six, 162 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:08.720 but it kind of feels like a team that had 163 00:08:08.759 --> 00:08:11.680 a lot of momentum and they just haven't really looked 164 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:13.759 the part as Oregon. What do you think, I mean, 165 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:16.319 are they a team that, from what you've seen, you're 166 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:18.519 kind of not out on necessarily, But like, I feel 167 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:19.639 like there were a lot of people that thought they 168 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:21.560 could potentially be a title contender. I'm not saying that 169 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:23.000 you thought that, but it just kind of seems like 170 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:25.000 they've been able to stay unbeaten. But a lot of 171 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:27.519 their momentum kind of seems to the perception of them 172 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:29.000 this year just kind of doesn't seem to fit with 173 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:30.480 what a lot of people thought they would be saying 174 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:31.600 after a month end of the season. 175 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:36.080 Yeah, they really struggled to run the football and hit 176 00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:39.799 explosives early in the season. That's gotten better as the 177 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:40.799 season gone along. 178 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:43.440 They have the Ohio. 179 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:45.960 State game here in a couple of weeks that will 180 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:47.919 obviously go a long way towards telling us. 181 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:49.159 How good they really are. 182 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:53.759 I think, based on how they started, I think they're 183 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:58.399 an appropriate place to kind of idle in the lower 184 00:08:58.440 --> 00:08:59.240 half of the top ten. 185 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:02.759 All right, so the ACE, I'm sorry, the SEC and 186 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:05.399 the Big Ten. We found out last week that they're 187 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:08.039 gonna gather sounds like it's taking place this week, might 188 00:09:08.039 --> 00:09:10.080 be taking place right now, I'm not sure, maybe it's 189 00:09:10.120 --> 00:09:12.200 next week, but they're going to talk about a lot 190 00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:15.440 of things, including the College Football Playoff. It sounds like 191 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:18.320 there are reports that they want four guaranteed spots for 192 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:20.720 each conference. I mean, what do you think if you're 193 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:23.240 a fly on the wall there in these meetings. Let's 194 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:24.799 maybe say, not only a fly on the wall when 195 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:27.039 they're discussing amongst each other, but when they're discussing it 196 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:30.120 to everybody that's involved in the college football Playoff? Is 197 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:31.759 their pitch just going to be, Hey, we have all 198 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:33.399 the power and we're bullies. I mean, I know they 199 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:35.440 wouldn't word it that way, but that kind of seems 200 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:36.080 like what this is. 201 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:42.639 Yeah, I mean, I they have thirty four of those schools. 202 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:44.799 And there's at rise of right now one hundred other 203 00:09:45.399 --> 00:09:47.559 in the SBS, and there's more power in those thirty 204 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:49.000 four than there's the other one hundred. 205 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:53.960 So I think, based off what we've seen in college football, 206 00:09:53.960 --> 00:09:54.679 everyone doubt for. 207 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:57.399 Themselves and they're going to divide the world and try 208 00:09:57.440 --> 00:09:59.759 to range the world as best benefits themselves. 209 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:01.279 So I fully expect that. 210 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:04.039 They're going to come out of that of those conference 211 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:07.840 rooms with their plan for a fourteen team bracket starting 212 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:11.639 in twenty twenty six, with the top two seeds and 213 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:15.240 then the only two buys reserved for their respective champions, 214 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:20.120 and then three auto bids after that, which I am 215 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:20.879 fully against. 216 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:24.240 I think would be terrible. I love the quirk. 217 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:27.960 Of the ACC and the Big twelve champion we assume 218 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:29.320 also getting buys. 219 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:31.840 And I think the fact. 220 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:33.480 That you could start a season being like, you know what, 221 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:35.919 as long as we finished fourth in our conference, we 222 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:39.320 got a guaranteed shot or we have a guaranteed spot 223 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:41.200 in the playoffs. I think that's terrible and I'm against 224 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.279 it anybody stopping it. 225 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:45.159 Yeah, I mean that that was gonna be my next question, 226 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:46.960 and I don't think there's an answer at least as 227 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:49.159 of now, Like how do you prevent this? Like, and 228 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:51.000 this is one of those things that if they if 229 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:54.200 this ends up working out for them, meaning the SEC 230 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:56.240 and the Big Ten, it's only a matter of time 231 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:58.519 before they decide to be bullies again, right, like they 232 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:00.639 I mean again, and clearly they are the best leagues 233 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:05.200 when it comes to their value, right the elite. I mean, 234 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:07.600 it's not like anybody would tell you that they aren't 235 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:10.000 the two best leagues for the most part. But I 236 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:12.039 don't know, Like part of me says, this is just 237 00:11:12.159 --> 00:11:14.840 what commissioners are going to do looking out for league members, 238 00:11:14.879 --> 00:11:17.480 and the job's never done. You're always trying to do 239 00:11:17.559 --> 00:11:20.600 what's best and take advantage of the leverage and power 240 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:23.399 that you have. But it also just seems absurd to me. 241 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:28.000 Yeah, it seems like a half measure towards. 242 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:32.279 What most people believe is the ultimate final resting place, 243 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:36.440 which is scooping up the remaining brands that they deem 244 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:39.080 valuable to get to a final number of forty or 245 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:42.919 fifty or whatever that number is, creating your own league 246 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:46.200 from there and then just having a championship amongst yourselves 247 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:49.120 and not even bothering to include the other eighty schools. 248 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:52.279 Yeah, I mean, I'm with you, I'm against it, but 249 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:54.720 wouldn't shock me at all if if that's what ends 250 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:57.039 up happening. We do have some realignment going on here 251 00:11:57.080 --> 00:12:00.919 with the Mountain West and the Pack twelve, which is 252 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:03.480 really just like the Mountain West Extra or the Mountain 253 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:06.639 West Plus. I mean, who do you feel like right 254 00:12:06.639 --> 00:12:10.679 now is in position to say they're the better league 255 00:12:10.679 --> 00:12:13.440 because it's essentially the same. I mean, to me, there's 256 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:17.240 not a big difference between these two overall. You know, 257 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:20.399 let's let me go back up a second. When it 258 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:24.240 comes to the leftovers from the Power five in the 259 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:26.320 previous world, that's Oregon State, Washington State. 260 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:28.279 How did they get here? Like, why do you feel 261 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:28.720 like they. 262 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:31.360 Just didn't join the I mean, I feel like they 263 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:33.200 would have been better off just joining the Mountain West 264 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:37.000 because now they're essentially just trying to disguise themselves as 265 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:39.399 something that is not what they are. 266 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:44.720 From my understanding, there's a lot of money tied up 267 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:47.399 in the Pac twelve contracts and all the money that 268 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:52.360 Oregon and Washington all then paid to get out, that 269 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:54.799 money they can access easier if they remain in the 270 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:57.720 PAC twelve, and this way they can swoop in and 271 00:12:57.840 --> 00:13:00.799 get the schools that they really want, the the value 272 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:04.159 such that there is of the Mountain West and take 273 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:06.559 the top five schools and then not have to worry 274 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:10.320 about paying a share to San Jose State in New 275 00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:12.799 Mexico and schools that don't. 276 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:14.039 Move the needle. I mean it's the same. 277 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:16.559 I mean the ACC did the same thing to the 278 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:19.799 Big East all those years. Yeah, it's the same pattern 279 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:23.879 we've seen repeated for twenty straight years now. And it's 280 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:28.320 just sad that there's no one within college sports that 281 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:29.720 has the power to say, you know what, we're not 282 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:32.159 doing this. We're going to organize in the structure that 283 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:33.600 makes the most sense for the most. 284 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:34.200 Amount of people. 285 00:13:34.559 --> 00:13:37.320 Maybe not perfect sense for everybody, but the best for 286 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:38.039 the greater good. 287 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:41.440 If you were a fan of one of these teams 288 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:43.320 that was either one of these schools, I should say 289 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:45.840 that it was either deciding to remain loyal to the 290 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:48.759 Mountain West and re up or move on to this 291 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:51.639 new version of the PAC twelve. What would you prefer, 292 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:53.879 because again, they're kind of the same. I found it 293 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:55.720 to be pretty you know, not that all of them did, 294 00:13:55.840 --> 00:13:57.399 but to see that some schools were like, yeah, we're 295 00:13:57.399 --> 00:13:58.919 just going to stay in the Mountain West. Like, I 296 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:01.000 don't know, I feel like it's a rare when it 297 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:03.320 comes to realignment, deciding to stay put whenever you do 298 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:05.759 have an option to go elsewhere potentially for some more money. 299 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:09.919 Yeah, I mean, I think there's still power in Brandon. 300 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:13.440 Like UTEP officially joined the Mountain West today, and that's 301 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:15.360 a conference they've been trying to get into since it 302 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:18.080 formed twenty five odd years ago. 303 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:20.000 Yeah, they're winners in this whole thing, right. 304 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:24.240 Yeah, I think even though it's a water down version 305 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:27.919 of what it originally was, I think they're still stoked 306 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:31.879 to say they're in the Mountain West. And I think 307 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:34.519 Boise State fans, the Colorado State fans are stoked to 308 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:37.159 say that they're in the PAC twelve, even if it's 309 00:14:36.879 --> 00:14:39.120 a shrunken husk of what it used to be. 310 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:43.399 Yeah, the way this whole thing played out with the 311 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:46.039 deadline to decide what you're going to do, like while 312 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:49.639 the football season's going on because it's two conferences that 313 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:50.960 like nationally, don't. 314 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:51.480 Move the needle. 315 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:54.159 It didn't get a lot of attention, but I kind 316 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:55.399 of feel like the way this played out, it was 317 00:14:55.440 --> 00:14:57.080 an old timer when it comes to realignment. 318 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:02.639 Yeah, because they obviously they had a scheduling agreement that 319 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:05.279 was in place for this season and with the idea 320 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:08.759 of you know what, in time, we'll we'll work something 321 00:15:08.759 --> 00:15:12.000 out to merge and all fourteen of us will we'll 322 00:15:12.080 --> 00:15:14.879 have a solution that works the best. And then at 323 00:15:14.879 --> 00:15:19.279 some point that relationship soured over money. The Mountain West 324 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:22.480 wanted more money from the Pac twelve schools than they 325 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:24.000 were willing to pay, so they were just like, you 326 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:25.799 know what, we don't need you guys, So we're just 327 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:28.320 gonna We're gonna come raid your coffers and take your 328 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:30.679 five best teams and suck it. 329 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:35.399 Essentially, that's essentially what happened. 330 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:39.279 All right, last question for you right now, who do 331 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:41.480 you think not We'll get it in again. I'm asking 332 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:44.000 you to predict the future essentially here, who do you 333 00:15:44.039 --> 00:15:46.039 think will be the Heisman Trophy winner this season? 334 00:15:47.399 --> 00:15:50.000 Well, last time you asked me, I said Jalen Milroe 335 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:54.039 and that answer looks only more correct as the time 336 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:56.480 goes on, So I'm gonna stick with that, all right. 337 00:15:56.519 --> 00:15:58.879 So Travis Hunter, I mean, I don't have a problem 338 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:01.320 with anybody claiming that guy as as talented as anybody 339 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:04.240 in the country. He is sensational and he's worthy of 340 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:07.600 all the praise that he gets. But let's say Milroe 341 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:10.320 falls off, which I don't see happening. Like if Travis 342 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:14.480 Hunter ends up winning this award in Colorado, and again, 343 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:16.080 they look really good now compared to what they look 344 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:18.240 like a few weeks ago, So maybe they end up 345 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:19.679 having a really good season. But like, if they're a 346 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:22.679 seven and five type team and he's able to win, 347 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:25.960 it wouldn't that kind of prove that the Dion hype 348 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:29.159 was worth something because he's great, But like part of 349 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:31.679 why he's such a known player is because of the 350 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:35.480 whole story of how he followed Dion to the FCS 351 00:16:35.559 --> 00:16:38.799 level and then followed him to Colorado, And like, you know, 352 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:41.240 I'm not gonna say he wouldn't be deserving, but like 353 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:44.399 that would like he's also benefiting from Colorado. They could 354 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:46.639 lose every game, they're still gonna get on national television 355 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:48.799 and they're gonna be talked about. That's not to discredit him, 356 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:50.600 but it kind of feels like the one rare thing 357 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:52.960 where you could benefit from. You know, even if they 358 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:54.679 keep losing and he keeps playing well, I still think 359 00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:57.039 he's gonna get his accolades, which is which doesn't usually 360 00:16:57.039 --> 00:16:59.039 happen in football. Right, you could be really great, but 361 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:01.480 if your team is not great, you're not going to 362 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:02.440 get the same amount of love. 363 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:05.599 Yeah, I think that's exactly right. 364 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:08.559 And I think it would be the one instance of 365 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:12.759 someone that's not a Deon Sanders family member attaching themselves 366 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:15.319 to Dion and coming out better on the other end 367 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:19.559 than they started, well said, which would be breaking a trend. 368 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:21.359 But I mean, I. 369 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:24.759 Think that if his numbers stay where they are in 370 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:28.200 Colorado wins seven games, I would be thrilled to see. 371 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:28.759 Him win the Heisman. 372 00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:30.240 Yeah, he's special. 373 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:33.720 In a world where Dion never enters coaching, Travis Hunter 374 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:36.240 would be at FORDT State right now, and who knows 375 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:37.559 if you'd be playing both ways. 376 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:39.680 But I mean, Florest State looks like it's. 377 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:41.519 On its way to a four and eighth season and 378 00:17:41.720 --> 00:17:44.960 he would not be in the Heisman conversation there, So yeah, 379 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:48.480 I think I think he has benefitted from that, and 380 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:49.119 and if so. 381 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:51.200 Good for him. It's a shame. 382 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:54.039 This is an old Bill Simmons idea, But it's a 383 00:17:54.079 --> 00:17:57.400 shame that there's not some sort of threshold to where 384 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:00.240 we just give out one Heisman for if if you 385 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:02.240 have such a badass season, we're gonna give you a 386 00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:05.960 Heisman trophy no matter. And if you don't reach that word, 387 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:08.039 maybe we just won't give out a Heisman this year. 388 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:12.680 I saw the because someone posted Ashton Janty's numbers through 389 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:14.880 this point in the season compared with other Heisman running backs, 390 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:19.440 and it reminded me how disappointing and spare it was 391 00:18:19.480 --> 00:18:21.240 that mark Ingram won it in two thousand and nine. 392 00:18:21.319 --> 00:18:23.119 Yep, so I'd love to see. 393 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:25.640 You know, if no one rises to that level, then hey, 394 00:18:25.799 --> 00:18:28.200 no one won the Heisman this year. But if if 395 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:32.799 Milroe and Hunter and Janty continue at their pace, then hey, 396 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:34.400 let's give out three Heismans this year. 397 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:35.119 Yeah. 398 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:38.319 Those, I mean, all those guys are special. Yanty is, 399 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:40.839 I mean, he is He's appointment viewing. If you just 400 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:43.799 like seeing dudes run all over people, and in any moment, 401 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:45.640