Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the
Speaker 1: Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters, and I
Speaker 1: don't need to fly solo on this episode because my
Speaker 1: guy Tim Duckworth is here left me hanging on the
Speaker 1: last one. Sure, explain yourself for the people. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: explain yourself.
Speaker 2: First of all, what time did you record?
Speaker 1: Like five point fifteen in the morning.
Speaker 2: Okay, well we did a finish the two am, and
Speaker 2: I have a message from you saying I'm tapping out,
Speaker 2: I'm going to bed. So I was like, all right,
Speaker 2: I'm going to that.
Speaker 1: I'm not waiting up when I have no idea when
Speaker 1: that thing's going to end.
Speaker 2: True. And then obviously dehm at two am didn't get
Speaker 2: much sleep. The soccer game this morning at seven am,
Speaker 2: so I said, do a solo. You got this here?
Speaker 1: Big boy didn't even give me an interview. It was
Speaker 1: just unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Okay, you don't understand how, Like all the players were
Speaker 2: upset last night because it was so late and we
Speaker 2: couldn't change They didn't want to change the start time today,
Speaker 2: so they were they were grumpy everyone I was. I
Speaker 2: was grumpy too.
Speaker 1: Why would you change the start time.
Speaker 2: Because they couldn't. I don't know, oh, because they could.
Speaker 2: It's already, it's already in the works for next year,
Speaker 2: changing the structure a little bit. For this event.
Speaker 1: You're going to go back to giving people the adequate
Speaker 1: number of big blinds that they deserve, the points that
Speaker 1: they earn.
Speaker 2: No, because you were here in the interview that I
Speaker 2: did without champion.
Speaker 1: I listened to the interview already. We'll play the interview that's.
Speaker 2: Very rusty before you say something very rusty.
Speaker 1: Okay, let we got we've like way buried the lead. Okay,
Speaker 1: like wait wait, wait wait, Jeremy Osmas. Not only did
Speaker 1: mister Osmas win PGT Player of the Year, but Jeremy
Speaker 1: Osmas is the PGT Million Dollar Championship winner. If you
Speaker 1: guys can believe it, the guy is a god.
Speaker 2: He is a goat.
Speaker 1: And if I recall, somebody on this podcast drafted mister
Speaker 1: Yeah you were out there Beacon on Twitter. I saw you.
Speaker 1: But who picked the winner? That's right. Speaking of getting lucky,
Speaker 1: mister Osma's got lucky in a very very big hand
Speaker 1: that we will review. We'll talk about the championship. Jeremy
Speaker 1: Osmas did come out on top as I mentioned, you know,
Speaker 1: I thought it would be very fitting if Ozmas came
Speaker 1: out on top of the championship event having been the
Speaker 1: player of the year. Of course, that's never really a given.
Speaker 1: It's probably not the favorite overall, just because so much
Speaker 1: can happen in a single poker tournament. But Jeremy Osmus delivered.
Speaker 1: The guy absolutely dominated across the entire PGT season, So
Speaker 1: it is quite fitting that we wrap up the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four Poker Grow Tour season with a victory from Ozmas,
Speaker 1: and he took home five hundred thousand dollars in prize money.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about what happened
Speaker 1: on the final day of the event. As I previewed
Speaker 1: by myself, solo pod was so difficult.
Speaker 2: We loved it, just talking NonStop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 1: Six players came into the final day and we'll talk
Speaker 1: about all of them and how they fared overall. Dode,
Speaker 1: you tell you guys once again, I've been telling you NonStop.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you again. I right before we hopped
Speaker 1: on the air, I just closed a table on Play
Speaker 1: Poker Grow. I had like three hundred and fifty three
Speaker 1: million in ships one guy, Well, on the biggest table,
Speaker 1: you start with one hundred millions, not like that much,
Speaker 1: but it is great to say one guy got so
Speaker 1: lucky against me, so lucky against me. We got it
Speaker 1: all in on a ten seven six or ten seven
Speaker 1: four rainbow flop. I had ace ten, he had seven
Speaker 1: to six, and he hit a seven on the river
Speaker 1: to stack me. But then I went ahead and got
Speaker 1: it all back, all of the back baby from said
Speaker 1: player and a few other players as well. So hey,
Speaker 1: if you guys want to get out there and battle
Speaker 1: against me, you can also battle against Tim who I
Speaker 1: folded aces to yesterday correctly. So folded aces, you had
Speaker 1: a full house.
Speaker 2: I timed out. I flopped the full house.
Speaker 1: You timed up, but then you came back.
Speaker 2: No I know it, but I was okay. So I
Speaker 2: was trying to put a bed in of like some
Speaker 2: really silly number, and I want to let me bet that number.
Speaker 2: So then I just had to push the clicker up
Speaker 2: to like sixteen million or whatever, and then I timed out.
Speaker 2: You bet. I had to check raise. I can't if
Speaker 2: you're bearing that real lead, which is which is the
Speaker 2: bad bait you put on me? Krim, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you the hand. I made a three blinds
Speaker 2: on the button three million ace ten off suit. You
Speaker 2: three bet me to eight million from the small one
Speaker 2: with aces. I called or one hundred million.
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I
Speaker 1: had aces. Yeah, and this is this is a bad
Speaker 1: beat for you. And I had aces because exactly this
Speaker 1: is how Tim thinks about poker. He did not have
Speaker 1: the best hand at any point in this hand. He
Speaker 1: got bad beat.
Speaker 2: You have never played a hand so absurd. You three
Speaker 2: bets of eight million. I call flop comes eight four
Speaker 2: three rainbow check check turner is an ace. You bet
Speaker 2: three million, so like one millionth of the pot. I
Speaker 2: call rivers are ten, You shove eighty nine million. I've
Speaker 2: got aces up. I mean, I'm never folding to you.
Speaker 2: So I call and you have top set.
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Speaker 1: let's get back to the main topic at hand, which
Speaker 1: is the PGT Million Dollar Championship. So as I went
Speaker 1: over yesterday again completely by myself, you know, just had
Speaker 1: to carry the whole load. You had forty four players
Speaker 1: that began in the PGT Million Dollar Championship. They were
Speaker 1: whittled down to six. You had this wild double bubble
Speaker 1: situation with not only two players, but the players involved
Speaker 1: in this double bubble situation were married Alex Foxen and
Speaker 1: Christen fox so just wild stuff. They were playing four
Speaker 1: and four they ended up busting on I guess the
Speaker 1: same hand, although albeit on different tables. So they got
Speaker 1: everyone into the money. And then today you had Dylan Wiseman,
Speaker 1: who had the chip lead, came into the day ahead
Speaker 1: of a big HUNI Chris Huniken, Calvin Anderson, Jim Collapy,
Speaker 1: Nick Shulman, and Jeremy Osmas. Of course, as we mentioned
Speaker 1: off the top of the show, Jeremy Osmos ultimately went
Speaker 1: on to win the whole thing. Everyone that was left
Speaker 1: that came into today was guaranteed forty thousand dollars. They
Speaker 1: were playing for a five hundred thousand dollars first place prize,
Speaker 1: the million dollars that is put up for this free
Speaker 1: role on behalf of Poker Grow On the Poker Grow Tour.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit top heavy in this format, but
Speaker 1: we like it that way. First place under k, second
Speaker 1: place two hundred k, then one twenty eighty sixty and forty.
Speaker 1: It was Jim Collopy who busted first. I got a
Speaker 1: little bit of a late start to watching the stream.
Speaker 1: I came in when they were five handed, almost running
Speaker 1: around with my kids this morning. But I was surprised
Speaker 1: to see Callipy go out early. He was sporting the
Speaker 1: I guess what I would call the now Jim Calliby
Speaker 1: famous PGT beanie that he always wears. He also had.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, hold up always wears. I gave it to
Speaker 2: him like two days ago.
Speaker 1: No, he has this thing on a lot.
Speaker 2: I feel like beat. Okay, I gave it to him.
Speaker 2: He guys, oh, I'll wear that, didn't have one you
Speaker 2: normally wears another beanie.
Speaker 1: He had his Poker Masters purple jacket on. Yes, nice,
Speaker 1: and then he had okay, this is definitely Jim Calliby
Speaker 1: famous his can of liquid death water love. He always
Speaker 1: has that.
Speaker 2: Do you like liquid death?
Speaker 1: I've had it once and it tasted like water in
Speaker 1: a can.
Speaker 2: So I don't really know what it was like.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not that I don't like it, It
Speaker 1: just I don't like what's so special about it was
Speaker 1: kind of my my thing. What's interesting to me is that,
Speaker 1: I mean early on, nothing really crazy happened right away,
Speaker 1: right like, not that I could tell when I was
Speaker 1: skimming through the updates and like getting myself caught up
Speaker 1: because cal it Be came into the day. What third
Speaker 1: or fourth in chips? Yeah, so I mean obviously Dylan
Speaker 1: Wiseman had the big chip lead. Yes, but yeah, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it's just it's Collop, He's
Speaker 1: got sevens, it's Shulman's got ace King. The money goes in.
Speaker 1: Shulman flops a king and that's that for Jim Callipy.
Speaker 1: But it kind of just seemed like out of nowhere
Speaker 1: that it that it happened early on, you know, I
Speaker 1: guess I was. I don't know, I guess I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit surprised always when uh, you know, the player
Speaker 1: who's the short stack doesn't go out first, but whatever
Speaker 1: call it. He takes on forty k for that, which
Speaker 1: good score for him. And then you had Chris Hunikin
Speaker 1: going out after that in fifth place, so he he
Speaker 1: lost I think a huge hand six versus Queens. And
Speaker 1: this this was a spot where if anyone has well,
Speaker 1: if anyone's ever played with Calvin Anderson, you'll you'll know
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm talking about. Over anyone's ever watched Calvin
Speaker 1: Anderson play, I mean, he's he's out there and he's
Speaker 1: and what I mean by that is he's in almost
Speaker 1: every single hand. I mean he plays like eighty percent
Speaker 1: of hands. It's absolutely wild. If you're at his table,
Speaker 1: it's a giant pain in the ass to play with
Speaker 1: him because he can have just about anything at any
Speaker 1: given moment, and he's also very good. He's aggressive, so
Speaker 1: he can you know, certainly get creative and think outside
Speaker 1: the box. So overall it's just a giant thorn in
Speaker 1: your side constantly playing against Anderson, which I think ultimately
Speaker 1: led to this Chris Unichan bust out, which was he
Speaker 1: opens on the button, Dylan Wiseman calls from the small blind,
Speaker 1: and then Calvin Andersen puts in a three bet from
Speaker 1: the big blind. Looks like the perfect squeeze spot, right,
Speaker 1: he can be doing this with a lot of different hands. Well,
Speaker 1: he's just got queens hunigans decides to rip in the
Speaker 1: pocket sixes. Wiseman obviously gets out of the way, and
Speaker 1: Anderson calls, what the Queen's the Queen's hold and that well, sorry,
Speaker 1: that wasn't that for Heunickan because he was left with
Speaker 1: fifteen k when the big blind was fifty k. He
Speaker 1: ends up doubling up twice, I believe, and then and
Speaker 1: then gets knocked out shortly after that. So he takes
Speaker 1: on fifth place for sixty thousand dollars. Then they get
Speaker 1: down to four handed play, of course, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden it's like Jeremy Osmas starts chipping up, but
Speaker 1: then Calvin Anderson kind of like puts the smack down
Speaker 1: a little bit, and he continues to chip up again,
Speaker 1: and it's starting to look like it's Calvin Anderson's tournament
Speaker 1: to lose. He's just gonna kind of run away with
Speaker 1: this thing. And then Dylan Wiseman, who started the final
Speaker 1: table as the chip leader, he ultimately goes out in
Speaker 1: fourth place, and he got unlucky to do so. He
Speaker 1: opened with pocket s Evans, Calvin Anderson three bat with
Speaker 1: ACE five off. Wiseman put it all in with those sevens,
Speaker 1: Anderson called it off. Anderson flopped one five and turned
Speaker 1: another five and obviously held from there to knock out
Speaker 1: Wiseman in fourth place. What's interesting about this spot is
Speaker 1: that on day one. At the end of day one,
Speaker 1: Wiseman busted Alex Foxen in eighth place with ACE five
Speaker 1: versus Ace King getting lucky hitting a five. He hit
Speaker 1: a five on the turn.
Speaker 2: You're missing the one hand. I just wanted to go
Speaker 2: back back a little bit with two hands for Keith.
Speaker 2: For Wiseman, he had one blind on blind battle with
Speaker 2: Calvin Ace ten versus ten to nine nine high flop
Speaker 2: tailment to some chips went in there, so he last
Speaker 2: had one to Calvin.
Speaker 1: That one could have been worse though on the river
Speaker 1: because a four flush or sorry a four straight was
Speaker 1: on board if somebody had either seven or eight. So
Speaker 1: the river ended up going check check. But it could
Speaker 1: have been a lot worse for Wiseman had the river
Speaker 1: not not coming but like a four liner out there.
Speaker 1: So there was that one, but yeah, that was that
Speaker 1: was bad for for Dylan for sure.
Speaker 2: And then there was the big one against Osmas without
Speaker 2: favorite hand. Osmas had the King Queen versus the Ace
Speaker 2: Queen of Wiseman.
Speaker 1: They get it all the way. Yeah, that one King
Speaker 1: on the River.
Speaker 2: King on the River, the first three outa that Jeremy
Speaker 2: is going to hit at this final table.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this one obviously kept Jeremy and the
Speaker 1: tournament because he was all in. It was Dylan Wiseman
Speaker 1: raising two or from the cut off seat, Jeremy Osmas
Speaker 1: moved all in from the small blind with King Queen suited.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a pretty understandable place so far.
Speaker 1: Wiseman calls he's got a dominating East Queen. It's all
Speaker 1: the way queen clean until the river six six four
Speaker 1: nine boom, cowboy King on the River, And that was
Speaker 1: a huge double up for Jeremie Osmas I was in
Speaker 1: the chat. Everyone was like, this guy, not only is
Speaker 1: he really good at poker, not only is he really
Speaker 1: good looking, he's lucky as all hell. So so so
Speaker 1: there was that, and then and then after that is
Speaker 1: when shortly thereafter is when Wisman ended up busting. I
Speaker 1: think he lost right around about half a stack or
Speaker 1: so when he doubled up Ozma, so was still in it,
Speaker 1: you know, not as short as when Hewniken, you know,
Speaker 1: lost that that huge hand to really cripple him, but
Speaker 1: you know, still wasn't able to come back from it
Speaker 1: at all. And then the hand of the tournament arguably,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is in contention for hand of the
Speaker 1: year and it's only January eleventh, like that, this should
Speaker 1: be in contention all the way till the end. And
Speaker 1: it was for sure the hand of the PGT season.
Speaker 1: It was this hand is out of control. So they
Speaker 1: are playing three handed. Calvin Anderson has a sizeable chip lead,
Speaker 1: although Jeremy Osmos has started to work his way up
Speaker 1: and really cut into that lead. And then Nick Schulman
Speaker 1: had around I don't know seventeen or eighteen big lines
Speaker 1: in third place. So they play this hand where Calvin
Speaker 1: Anderson limps in from the small blind and Jeremy Osmas
Speaker 1: checks his option in the big blind. I watched this
Speaker 1: hand as it happened on stream, so I knew what
Speaker 1: they had. And Anderson had ten nine off. Ozmas has
Speaker 1: jack nine off, so Ozma's in a pretty good spot here,
Speaker 1: dominating the flop comes ten nine six with two diamonds,
Speaker 1: the ten of diamonds and the six of diamonds, so
Speaker 1: top two pair four Anderson, and then middle pair with
Speaker 1: that nine for Ozmas. He's also got the jack of
Speaker 1: diamonds in his hand, which is important to note here
Speaker 1: because it does provide some back door outs as well.
Speaker 1: Anderson did have the nine of diamonds in his hand.
Speaker 1: Both players check, and the turn is the nine of clubs,
Speaker 1: So here we go. Trips for Osmas, who's in position
Speaker 1: against Anderson, who has a full house nines over tens.
Speaker 1: Starts off with Anderson checking. Ozma bets one hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: At the time the blinds were forty thousand and eight thousand.
Speaker 1: Osmas comes with one hundred thousand. Instead of slow playing this,
Speaker 1: Anderson just decides to fast play it right away, comes
Speaker 1: back with a check RaSE to three seventy five. Ozmas
Speaker 1: fires right back. I mean he took some time, but
Speaker 1: fired back eight hundred thousand from Ozmas, and then Anderson
Speaker 1: clicks it up to one point three to five million,
Speaker 1: and it's like, what the hell just transpired? This was
Speaker 1: limped pre check down the flop, and now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, these guys are going bonkers on the turn.
Speaker 1: What the hell is happening? Obviously you're watching this in
Speaker 1: real time and you can see the whole cards on
Speaker 1: the stream and you're just like, oh my, like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, this is crazy. Course, Ozmas has way too
Speaker 1: much of a hand on the turn with trip nine,
Speaker 1: so he can never fold, especially against Cal, so he
Speaker 1: calls the River's the jack of clubs. I mean hello.
Speaker 1: With the action on the turn, Cal's probably thinking like,
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he has seven to eight here, maybe
Speaker 1: he's got sixes full, but like six is full, maybe
Speaker 1: not really fits in there because Ozma's checked back pre
Speaker 1: but he's like he's got to have at least nine, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't have tens because Cal feels good
Speaker 1: that he doesn't have tens because he didn't raise pretty
Speaker 1: Ozma's so he's probably thinking seven, eight, nine to six
Speaker 1: maybe to some degree pocket sixes is in there. Then
Speaker 1: the River's the Jack of clubs. I mean, just incredible stuff.
Speaker 1: The pot's like at this point, what like two point
Speaker 1: eight million or something ridiculous. And Anderson comes with a
Speaker 1: super small bat three ninety. Ozmas moves all in. Well,
Speaker 1: Ozma's did the all but one chip left, everything but
Speaker 1: one five thousand chip behind. Anderson announces that he's all in.
Speaker 1: Ozma's obviously quickly calls and I've never seen cal react
Speaker 1: really at all. And he reacted. He kind of like
Speaker 1: shot out of his chair. He couldn't believe it, like
Speaker 1: it was just it was absolutely sickening on his behalf.
Speaker 1: And then if you're you know, in camp Ozmas, I mean,
Speaker 1: what a freaking river card. Seriously, Ozmas ends up doubling
Speaker 1: up to over five point eight million, Calvin Anderson takes
Speaker 1: a big tumble down the leaderboard to one point seventy
Speaker 1: three million, So just absolutely absolutely wild stuff. And I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, me running through the hand the hand history
Speaker 1: here on the podcast, it can probably give you some
Speaker 1: sort of idea, but you got you just got to
Speaker 1: watch it. I mean, the hand was absolutely incredible really,
Speaker 1: and it's out now on the poker Goo Twitter account,
Speaker 1: so go check it out. It's just the whole thing.
Speaker 1: It's just wild and like on the turn again, the
Speaker 1: hand just it starts kind of meaningless. Obviously, players connect
Speaker 1: with the flop and then the you know, the the
Speaker 1: nine pairs of the board. On the turn, You're like, okay,
Speaker 1: some fireworks, but in a limped pot, how crazy is
Speaker 1: it gonna get? And then all of a sudden, it's
Speaker 1: just like raise, raise, right, what the hell's going on?
Speaker 1: Nick Shulman ends up finding a double up through Calvin Anderson.
Speaker 1: There's that, and then Calvin Anderson is super short. He's
Speaker 1: in the small blind. He moves all in the jack
Speaker 1: five and guess what, Jeremie Osmas just has two kings
Speaker 1: in the big blind, Like, no big deal, so he
Speaker 1: quickly calls there those kings hold. I mean Ousma's went
Speaker 1: on to make a full house. No big deal, and
Speaker 1: Ozmus ends up knocking out Calvin Anderson in third place.
Speaker 1: At Anderson takes some one hundred and twenty thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: and then Ozmas takes a big, big chip lead into
Speaker 1: heads up play seven point four million for Ozmas one
Speaker 1: point eight million for Shulman and Buddy. We both drafted
Speaker 1: these guys. Unfortunately you didn't draft as well as I did,
Speaker 1: because I picked the guy who had I picked the
Speaker 1: guy who had the horseshoe up his ass. For the
Speaker 1: entire final table, we got we, we got it, we
Speaker 1: got we got people down to heads up play.
Speaker 2: I also had the bubble boy too, or one of
Speaker 2: the bubble boys. That doesn't count for anything, I know,
Speaker 2: but I was right there. I was right there.
Speaker 1: That doesn't count for anything. How long did they play
Speaker 1: heads up for a long time? Right?
Speaker 2: No? Oh, they didn't heads up? No, they didn't play
Speaker 2: long at all.
Speaker 1: Oh. Oh, I was confused because I texted you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a delayed response, very delayed response, which.
Speaker 1: Made me think that they were playing for like an hour.
Speaker 1: I was like, what are these guys doing?
Speaker 2: It took they took a long break, and then yeah,
Speaker 2: got back into it.
Speaker 1: You don't have to tell me if it happened. But
Speaker 1: do you allow a chop to happen in this situation,
Speaker 1: mister commissioner.
Speaker 2: I'd say money, they can do whatever they want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I know it's like money plus passport dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just want the passports to remain in You know,
Speaker 2: here's the thing with these two people, they're probably the
Speaker 2: two of the best ten people to get heads up
Speaker 2: up for what we're trying to do. We're regarding passports like,
Speaker 2: I have no no worries that Nick and Jeremy going
Speaker 2: to eat through their passports within a couple of series.
Speaker 1: You know, by the Sugar Roke Cup I did.
Speaker 2: I did joke with you know, Jeremy. I was like,
Speaker 2: by the way, this expires, you know in two weeks,
Speaker 2: so PGT kickoff is going to be wild. But yeah, no,
Speaker 2: these two guys that they play very easily, the two
Speaker 2: of the top five, you know most events played per
Speaker 2: season in the studio, so they're going to get through
Speaker 2: it no problems.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So they didn't play long and then the final
Speaker 1: hand came up and it was actually a bluff by
Speaker 1: Shulman that ended up getting picked off in a good
Speaker 1: call by Ozmas. In the end, the hands started out
Speaker 1: with Shulman limping the button he had eight five off.
Speaker 1: Jeremy Osmus checked his option with King nine off from
Speaker 1: the Big Blind. It comes Jack nine to seven with
Speaker 1: a couple of diamonds, Ozma's check calls a bet fromman
Speaker 1: on the turn. The turn is the deuce of clubs,
Speaker 1: so a blank there. It was Jack of Spade's nine
Speaker 1: of diamonds, seven of diamonds on the flops and the
Speaker 1: turn is the deuce of clubs. Ozma's check calls again,
Speaker 1: this time a little bit of the larger bets, and
Speaker 1: then the river comes the seven of clubs, so it
Speaker 1: pairs the board. Ozma's checks and Shulman moves all in
Speaker 1: for one point one four five million. I think the
Speaker 1: pot at the time was like eight hundred and ninety.
Speaker 1: It was eight or nine hundred, I believe eight nine
Speaker 1: hundred thousand, So Ozma's per Sorry, Shulman moves all in
Speaker 1: a little bit of tank, but not not too long.
Speaker 1: Ozmas puts in the call. Shulman obviously turns over the
Speaker 1: old eight five for a missed gutter here, and Jeremy's
Speaker 1: out the door, or sorry, Shulman's out the door because
Speaker 1: Jeremy had middle pair. Interesting spot, you know, for for
Speaker 1: Jeremy overall, you know, does have that king of diamonds
Speaker 1: in his hand. Maybe can lean that you want your
Speaker 1: opponent to have the diamonds and and have missed the
Speaker 1: fluster and just go go piling. But I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if in like a heads of scenario
Speaker 1: like this, that king of diamonds is as important of
Speaker 1: a blocker as other situations. But nevertheless, Ozmas was true
Speaker 1: to the test and he passed it. And uh, he's
Speaker 1: the PGT Championship. Kind of interesting that Shulman. I mean,
Speaker 1: what a week ago, week and a half ago, had
Speaker 1: that crazy bluff that he pulled at in the first
Speaker 1: event at the final table of the PGT Last Chance
Speaker 1: Series where he went for it against Yao Samau on
Speaker 1: the river having a king blocker to a Broadway straight combination,
Speaker 1: but somehow obviously had it. Every time you think you
Speaker 1: have the blocker, they have it. It's so frustrating. But anyway,
Speaker 1: Shulman ended up going on to win that event. You know,
Speaker 1: the fact that he nearly bluffed off his entire tournament
Speaker 1: didn't matter. He came back, ended up winning it. And
Speaker 1: then he ends up finishing second place here, ultimately going
Speaker 1: out on a bluffbutt valiant effort by him. Two hundred
Speaker 1: K in Shulman's pocket and again Jeremy Osmas five hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars richer the PGT Player of the Year. He
Speaker 1: locked up that title. He crushed the leader board two thy,
Speaker 1: nine hundred and sixty six points. He was likely going
Speaker 1: to be the PGT Player of the Year no matter
Speaker 1: what happened during PGT Last Chance. But then he went
Speaker 1: out and got a second place anyway, to pat his
Speaker 1: lead a little bit more. He took home a fifty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars championship or sorry, fifty thousand dollars bonus prize
Speaker 1: for wing the Player of the Year honors. And then
Speaker 1: here he obviously comes in first place as we have mentioned,
Speaker 1: five hundred K for Ozma. So just an absolutely incredible
Speaker 1: year from Jeremy Osmas. And afterwards you spoke with him, sir,
Speaker 1: I did at length I think about thirteen minutes or
Speaker 1: so fourteen minutes. So we'll play that interview for you
Speaker 1: guys right now.
Speaker 2: Jeremy, congratulations on two things. Factly, twenty twenty four PGT
Speaker 2: Player of the secondly winner of the pg team Million
Speaker 2: Dollar Championship.
Speaker 3: But let's talk about.
Speaker 2: Player of the winning that season long playing hundreds of events.
Speaker 2: How does it what does it mean to you to
Speaker 2: win that honor?
Speaker 4: A lot, Like I was selling Jeff Platt. You know,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of the best players in the world
Speaker 4: here in Vegas, and this is kind of where we
Speaker 4: come to battle and the place that pgt's provided for
Speaker 4: us to play high sakes that didn't used to exist
Speaker 4: on a very regular basis. So it's just really it
Speaker 4: means a lot because it's it's tough, tough competition, lots
Speaker 4: of great players, so to win it is amazing. The
Speaker 4: leaderboards awesome. I love it it really, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I love the leaderboard. It just really inspires me to
Speaker 4: play a lot a leader just like it's kind of
Speaker 4: like a video game.
Speaker 3: You want to try to get to the top, you know,
Speaker 3: So for me, I just I love it.
Speaker 2: So when the season starts, you know, like a new
Speaker 2: season is going to sound soon. Is this something that's
Speaker 2: I could all of you like, Hey, I'm going to
Speaker 2: win it this year? Or is it more just like
Speaker 2: you know the results of falling away, Hey let's make
Speaker 2: a run of this.
Speaker 4: Well, I just am going to put in a lot
Speaker 4: of volume here no matter what. And so like I've
Speaker 4: never set financial or monetary goals for poker, I just
Speaker 4: try to put in that time and play my best
Speaker 4: and always improve. Those are like my three things, right,
Speaker 4: and then the results take care of themselves eventually. So
Speaker 4: I think my chances every year are good to win
Speaker 4: this because I play all the games. I live here,
Speaker 4: so at the series, i'm here and I get to
Speaker 4: sleep my own bed, I go all out of the series,
Speaker 4: and those are very point you know, heavy for points
Speaker 4: for the PGT. So yeah, I just think every I
Speaker 4: just have a great shot every year.
Speaker 3: But it's not like I guess it's my goal, but
Speaker 3: it's not like my specific goal, but it's kind of
Speaker 3: just the outcome of my process. I guess would.
Speaker 2: You say that heading into HPGT season that you're among
Speaker 2: the one to three maybe five people that are favorites
Speaker 2: to always win, you know, top Player of the year.
Speaker 3: I think for sure I am.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Nigranio and me are put in
Speaker 4: the most end. Probably Jim Callapi are probably the three
Speaker 4: guys that come to mind that are in here battling
Speaker 4: like every series, every you know, PLO Mix, No Limit
Speaker 4: World Series, we play everything. So yeah, those are the
Speaker 4: three that really come to mind. There's a lot of
Speaker 4: there's others too that maybe don't play mix, but they
Speaker 4: they play a lot of PLO, No Women, Sean Winter
Speaker 4: Solverle So yeah, I'm definitely up there with I think
Speaker 4: one of the favorite sinum.
Speaker 2: Talking about your season, you know, it took a while
Speaker 2: for you to get that win on the ball, you know,
Speaker 2: before that, there's a bit of a lull. Does that
Speaker 2: how does that affect you, you know, turning up every day?
Speaker 2: Is it something frustrating or is it just kind of
Speaker 2: part of the process, part of the grind, part of
Speaker 2: like what you're expecting when you come here. Yeah, it doesn't.
Speaker 4: It really doesn't bother me that much to not win.
Speaker 4: I look at how my years going, Am I winning?
Speaker 3: Am I losing? Like how many final tables have I made?
Speaker 3: How many? You know, because I've had I was just
Speaker 3: deep in everything. So it's like.
Speaker 4: There's kind of a trade off you can make, Like
Speaker 4: certain players will either have all the chips in the
Speaker 4: tournament and they're going to win more often, or they're
Speaker 4: going to be out but they're not going to be
Speaker 4: there as much, right, So what makes the most money?
Speaker 3: That's what I try to focus on.
Speaker 4: And I think being there a lot and getting seconds
Speaker 4: and thirds and fifths and sixth. That all adds up
Speaker 4: to a lot. So it's not like the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: It's not like football or baseball where the only goal
Speaker 4: is to win and you get second, you lost.
Speaker 3: It's just not like that with poker.
Speaker 4: When you get second and you want a bunch of money,
Speaker 4: you won, right, So the titles are nice and they
Speaker 4: come eventually.
Speaker 2: But that wasn't bothering me really sometimes round But I
Speaker 2: guess one of your favorite things about the PGT is
Speaker 2: the lead of Baard. Obviously playing the studio is a great.
Speaker 3: Place to play.
Speaker 2: Bit what don't you like about the PGT? Is there
Speaker 2: anything that you would like to see, you know, going
Speaker 2: forward improved or something, Hey, I would like this to happen.
Speaker 2: You know, we always have people pitching the half and
Speaker 2: half and then and other things, and we've made lots
Speaker 2: of changes over the years, adding a mixed series, adding
Speaker 2: a pelog. But to you personally, what would you like,
Speaker 2: you know, to see in twenty twenty five or twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six.
Speaker 3: I mean first could be like five million and stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean I don't have any complaints about
Speaker 4: it's amazing. I'm just very grateful for the PGT even
Speaker 4: existing because it gives me a place to come come
Speaker 4: work a lot, right, and they add in this extra money,
Speaker 4: so it's a it's a big deal for like the
Speaker 4: grinding professionals like me and Jim and you know people
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't change a lot. And you guys, you
Speaker 3: guys listen to.
Speaker 4: Feedback really well as far as you know, adding new
Speaker 4: events or you know, you're always improving the tournaments and
Speaker 4: this and that. So I just I can't really I
Speaker 4: would change much about it, honestly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, perfect good, they're gonna turn me out now. But
Speaker 2: let's talk about the PGT Championship.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know we've talked about this, you know, via text
Speaker 2: message and stuff. How we changed the points for change,
Speaker 2: how we started this tournament this year with set points
Speaker 2: instead of set, slotting stack instead of points, leading to
Speaker 2: stunning stack and obviously disadvantage you slightly. But REGANI, you know,
Speaker 2: ignore all that. Is it added pressure when you come
Speaker 2: in here as the chip leader to say, get through
Speaker 2: these fifty entry field and win the whole thing.
Speaker 3: No, there's no added pressure.
Speaker 4: I mean I started to fight more big blinds in
Speaker 4: the Grand le ten, more big blinds, and I think
Speaker 4: Seth Davies fifteen more big blinds than Rocco. I think so,
Speaker 4: I mean, you see it all the time, right, it's
Speaker 4: I guess people who don't play a lot, they probably see.
Speaker 3: Who's chip leading the tournament.
Speaker 4: Like I'll see an experienced players like they're playing in
Speaker 4: a tournament with someone and some guy has all the chips,
Speaker 4: and then later they're like, you busted?
Speaker 3: What happened? Now?
Speaker 4: You know, they can't believe that they didn't win the tournament.
Speaker 4: It's like you're just not gonna win the tournament, even
Speaker 4: when your chip leader with ten left or five left, Like,
Speaker 4: you don't just win eighty percent of the time, you
Speaker 4: don't win the majority of the time. So with fifty
Speaker 4: left and not even a huge chip leader, it's like
Speaker 4: it's anyone's games. I mean, it's I'm favored, I guess,
Speaker 4: you know, but it's not like I'm likely to win. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So I don't put too much pressure on myself. I
Speaker 4: just try to play my best.
Speaker 2: So you know, this year finished, until the lad Well
Speaker 2: you side with three hundred and fifty big blinds, do
Speaker 2: you think maybe that's not enough? Then? As a reward
Speaker 2: for a season long campaign of playing in, you know,
Speaker 2: day in, day out, do you think maybe three fifty
Speaker 2: isn't worthy justification of finishing on tip?
Speaker 4: I mean you get the fifty thousand right for winning
Speaker 4: the PGT Championship, and then you have the highest equity
Speaker 4: in the tournament. Like, that's pretty good. Generally first place
Speaker 4: is already going to had a great year, So I
Speaker 4: kind of even though it wasn't advantageous for me this
Speaker 4: year to start my chips based on PGT points. Instead
Speaker 4: it was based on position this year, and I didn't
Speaker 4: start with as much as it would have last year,
Speaker 4: I think it's probably better for the PGT in the
Speaker 4: idea of the free role as giving back to the
Speaker 4: people who are in here all the time, grinding put
Speaker 4: in in the hours. You probably don't want to focus
Speaker 4: too much of that on the top guy. I mean
Speaker 4: just looking at it holistically, trying to be objective about it. Greedily,
Speaker 4: I could say that it shouldn't be like that, because
Speaker 4: if I think I have a higher.
Speaker 3: Chance of winning the leaderboard a lot, it's.
Speaker 4: In my best interest, yeah, best interest for it to
Speaker 4: be based on Although most of the time first doesn't
Speaker 4: have such a lead as I had a huge, big
Speaker 4: year it was humongous, So I think the way it
Speaker 4: was done this year was was was good for.
Speaker 2: This PGD Championship. We play the top six, it's very
Speaker 2: off the prize will go. So first, do you think
Speaker 2: this would be better as everyone is in the money
Speaker 2: kind of tournament where you know, we in a way
Speaker 2: you you know, being able to be in it is
Speaker 2: a bit of like a break back. Maybe everyone's got
Speaker 2: a five km in cash and then at the final
Speaker 2: table or maybe even the last fourteen you have some
Speaker 2: pay jumps.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. I haven't thought about that. I guess you.
Speaker 4: It's nice to have a nice, good solid number of
Speaker 4: top five hundred because that's bigger than most then a
Speaker 4: lot of the day, you know the tournament's in here,
Speaker 4: most are two three hundred for first, So it's nice
Speaker 4: to have that big number because it is the special
Speaker 4: culmination event. But yeah, I could see merits for spreading
Speaker 4: it out. But then what's first going to be? Yeah,
Speaker 4: which is still yeah, yeah, yeah, it's still great and
Speaker 4: then everyone is realizing their equity right away more rather
Speaker 4: than the way this is set up, it's pretty high variant,
Speaker 4: especially because it's very top heavy, so it's a lot
Speaker 4: of variants, you know, and the pros feel differently about it.
Speaker 4: But even just playing this file table, this is a
Speaker 4: different final table than most finel tables because you play
Speaker 4: to win at more.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, first is a lot.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's my follow up question, you know, on
Speaker 2: that on the money Bubble yesterday when were down to
Speaker 2: do tables. You know you're on the short side. Does
Speaker 2: it really affect how you play this event? In particular
Speaker 2: because it's so top heavy even though it's a free
Speaker 2: roll though, so you haven't put up any money, But
Speaker 2: does it? Does it change the way you play?
Speaker 4: So not putting up the money doesn't change anything for me.
Speaker 4: I just change the way I play because it's so
Speaker 4: top heavy. Yeah, so like I missed, I should have
Speaker 4: played this hand that I didn't play, and like you
Speaker 4: sort of get stuck in your you're just not used
Speaker 4: to these these payouts. So yeah, I mean it's fun.
Speaker 4: It's probably better to watch because people are like, this
Speaker 4: final table was p a little looser than most, and
Speaker 4: that's because people are playing to win more. So it's
Speaker 4: good for something different. Yeah, I don't, I don't know
Speaker 4: what most people prefer. I'm kind of I don't have
Speaker 4: super strong feelings about I'm kind of just like set
Speaker 4: it up and good point, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Play as long as it's not I don't hate it.
Speaker 3: You know, I think this is much better than when
Speaker 3: it was Winner Take All though. I like this, This
Speaker 3: is better for sure.
Speaker 2: Let's look at twenty twenty five seasons around the corner.
Speaker 2: You were already ditching us to go to try it,
Speaker 2: and you know, you take, You're taking the money, You're running,
Speaker 2: You're running other big boys in the j jube. But
Speaker 2: a real question is how are you approaching this next season?
Speaker 2: Is it just reset, I'm gonna grind, I'm gonna keep playing,
Speaker 2: or like you've kind of won this award, you've won
Speaker 2: the big one. You can like maybe spend some more
Speaker 2: time with the family. The kids say, at home, what's
Speaker 2: what's the plan? Do you think?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: I mean I spend a pretty good amount of time
Speaker 4: with the family at home. It's not like I'm working
Speaker 4: fifty hours a week again or any you know, anything crazy.
Speaker 4: I just kind of put my hours in and it's
Speaker 4: it's intense at times, but then I get.
Speaker 3: Two weeks off, sometimes three weeks off, like several times.
Speaker 4: A year, So I just am just coming into play
Speaker 4: again like last year, and I don't think anything's really changed.
Speaker 3: I'm just ready to come in and come in and
Speaker 3: play and play a lot of events. It does hurt
Speaker 3: to miss the Mixed Game series a little bit, but
Speaker 3: I've been trying to say, trying to I always say,
Speaker 3: I'm going to go to the next trait and the
Speaker 3: next tright, and so I decide I'm going this time
Speaker 3: like I'm going to do it and see so. So
Speaker 3: at least I'm not missing a big No Limit series
Speaker 3: or the PLO series. Those are my two. I'm better
Speaker 3: at those games. So I do love the mix series,
Speaker 3: but it's I'm just gonna have to miss them this time.
Speaker 2: You have two kids at home and a wife had
Speaker 2: Do they feel about dad playing poker? They do they
Speaker 2: watch your final tables? Do they? Are they interested in
Speaker 2: it or they just think it's just a job and
Speaker 2: generally can Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean my kids think it's cool and I bring
Speaker 3: home the trophies. They watch it. They probably were watching
Speaker 3: this one. They don't watch all of them. They watch some.
Speaker 4: My kids aren't really into poker. They are curious how
Speaker 4: I did. And you know, if I want a trophy
Speaker 4: or a bunch of money. But they're they don't really play.
Speaker 4: I tried to teach them many times, and they just
Speaker 4: don't want to sit down and learn it, and they
Speaker 4: don't want to take the time to do it. They
Speaker 4: don't seem to have the patience for it. So but
Speaker 4: my wife is always watching. And then like my family,
Speaker 4: my sisters, my mom, step dad, they're always watching every
Speaker 4: event now and everything like that.
Speaker 3: So which is which is cool? So I always have
Speaker 3: a lot of people rooting for me.
Speaker 2: Awesome, Well, congratulations PGT player, the PGT Championship winner. You
Speaker 2: get two giant chicks and now you're going to take
Speaker 2: your money and go to the bad boys of chatting.
Speaker 2: But it's okay. I'll forgive you.
Speaker 3: I promise. It's not the passport money man.
Speaker 2: Take the money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, walk up.
Speaker 2: I did that for reasons. Those guys get it. But congratulations,
Speaker 2: great season. Hopefully twenty twenty five is just as good.
Speaker 3: Thanks man, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: All right. That was tim with Jeremy as one one
Speaker 1: thing that stood out to me during the interview when
Speaker 1: you know you asked him about being like a favorite
Speaker 1: to win or be in contention Player the Year just
Speaker 1: based on like everything that he plays. He didn't mention Nick.
Speaker 2: He didn't know.
Speaker 1: I just thought that he would. That would be fresh
Speaker 1: in mine because I mean it's obviously like like Jeremy said,
Speaker 1: it's it's Daniel, it's Jim Callapy, and then I would
Speaker 1: say Nick Shulman's the other one.
Speaker 2: Nick Schulman's probably yeah, definitely fourth. You know, you could
Speaker 2: probably maybe even put a John Reord in there, Dylan Weisman.
Speaker 1: John Ordan won't play mixed. Nick would play mixed.
Speaker 2: Riordan has played mix, though, depending on what the mix is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure John Riordan can spell Horse.
Speaker 2: Okay, wow, King King, Johnny had Day, you talk like that.
Speaker 1: I've never seen that guy play anything other than Nolan
Speaker 1: hold Him and Pioelo. So I don't know what you
Speaker 1: want me to check.
Speaker 2: Right now, but yeah, Dylan, this one's definitely up there nowadays,
Speaker 2: you know, being out of play everything as well.
Speaker 1: No, for sure, but yeah, I thought, obviously Jeremy is
Speaker 1: an extremely deserving winner. It's great that the player of
Speaker 1: the Year ended up coming out on top. You know,
Speaker 1: for anyone who's played fantasy football out there or probably
Speaker 1: anything fantasy sports, you know, you can often be the
Speaker 1: best team in the regular season and then you just,
Speaker 1: you know, lose in the first or second round of
Speaker 1: the playoffs and you're just pissed.
Speaker 2: Right March eighth, twenty twenty four, John Reordan fourth place,
Speaker 2: PGT Mixed Games five K and no limit Douce.
Speaker 1: There you go, Yeah, buddy, a big bet game, Buddy,
Speaker 1: a big bet game.
Speaker 2: Okay, you can't. Well you have to climorify this.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 2: You guys call it just limit. You just want limit only. Okay.
Speaker 1: Listen, there's there's two categories of the games. There's big
Speaker 1: bet and there's mixed. And the mix is generally always
Speaker 1: about the limit limit games, and then the big bet
Speaker 1: is the big bet. Stuff don't really count in big bet.
Speaker 1: And also, I remember that run and I remember speaking
Speaker 1: with him. He had no idea what he was doing. Okay,
Speaker 1: he was open about that, very open about that. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you, you're the commission I mean, we'll put
Speaker 1: a bow on the PGT Million Dollar Championship. Are you
Speaker 1: happy with the way that it turned out? Do you
Speaker 1: have anything that you're already cooking up for next year? Like,
Speaker 1: what do you what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: No? I think it very really really well. It was
Speaker 2: great to see a very deserving winner, Jeremy taking it down.
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of cool that, you know, the
Speaker 2: player of the year also won, you know, the season
Speaker 2: concluding championship. That's that's kind of awesome. And to go
Speaker 2: heads up with Nick, another PGT regular is also great.
Speaker 2: Season was good. You know, we did did some new stuff,
Speaker 2: tweaked some old things. I think everyone is pretty happy
Speaker 2: with how it went. Always trying to improve to put
Speaker 2: on the best tour for these players. So you know,
Speaker 2: that's why I kind of ask Jeremy, you know, what
Speaker 2: would you what else would you approve? You know, I
Speaker 2: talk to players all the time about that, how can
Speaker 2: we just get one percent better? Because one percent better
Speaker 2: is better than not getting better. So we'll tweak this
Speaker 2: championship next year a couple different ways. And I you know,
Speaker 2: I tried to get it on last year and I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I'm pulling to try and get this Bounty series somewhere
Speaker 2: in our schedule. Definitely thinking about a half and half
Speaker 2: event or series. We'll see what we can do there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, first half of the season it's set. You
Speaker 2: can find everything on PGT dot com Schedule structure sheets.
Speaker 2: Only thing that's not on there is the Texas Poker Open,
Speaker 2: which we'll be announcing very soon, and then we'll after that,
Speaker 2: we'll start figuring out the back half of the season.
Speaker 1: Do you anticipate that players are excited to chase the
Speaker 1: top forty of the leader ward and chase qualification into
Speaker 1: the PGT Championship. The reason why I'm asking is it
Speaker 1: definitely you could definitely feel that the buzz and the
Speaker 1: excitement around PGT Last Chance, But PGT Last Chance is
Speaker 1: kind of this independent thing. I'm just wondering if that
Speaker 1: same sort of buzz you think will carry over it
Speaker 1: all to the entire season and not just be so
Speaker 1: focused on that final series.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that final series is just just so
Speaker 2: great with everything that's going on, Like, I don't think
Speaker 2: we should be expecting the same numbers at the upcoming
Speaker 2: PGT kickoff. I think we need to be realistic and
Speaker 2: know that the players were playing Last Chance to try
Speaker 2: and qualify for the free Roll. There wasn't really any
Speaker 2: competing events on come kickoff. You know, everyone's kind of
Speaker 2: getting back into things. You got Bogada and Seminole kicking
Speaker 2: off their series, so players now have a few more options,
Speaker 2: so I think our numbers will go down, but that
Speaker 2: doesn't mean the season is going to be abut you know,
Speaker 2: it's going to start slow. Then we'll come back up
Speaker 2: with the Poco Cup, you know, we have the mixed games,
Speaker 2: the PLO or the USPO. Like. I still think it's
Speaker 2: going to be a good season. I'm hoping that all
Speaker 2: the work we did during the year, getting new faces
Speaker 2: in the studio, extensive satellites, we can kind of grow
Speaker 2: on that. You know, I think the most important thing
Speaker 2: is to get new people in the studio playing, experiencing
Speaker 2: what it's like to play a PGT event, experience you know,
Speaker 2: the first class aria staff and how they handle the
Speaker 2: whole operation of the tournament. And you'll see that we
Speaker 2: get these people in the door, they have a great experience, win,
Speaker 2: lose or draw and come back. And I think that's
Speaker 2: the most important thing for the longevity of what we're
Speaker 2: trying to do with the PGT.
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope it carries over, you know, I
Speaker 1: hope it just not all just bunched up into into
Speaker 1: last chance and people do you know, try and compete
Speaker 1: over the course of the entire season, and not just say, hey,
Speaker 1: why don't I just instead of putting in all that
Speaker 1: time and effort and bankroll money over the course of
Speaker 1: an entire season, why don't I just come out for
Speaker 1: Last Chance and just try and do it that way,
Speaker 1: you know, take my swing at that time. So we'll see.
Speaker 1: But as you mentioned, it all starts with kickoff coming
Speaker 1: up in just over a week's time. Four or five
Speaker 1: k's one, ten k double points for everything. You seem
Speaker 1: to be less bullish on the numbers than I am.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I just know first handsome players heading
Speaker 2: to Seminal like they're heading to Bogatta now that then
Speaker 2: they're gonna go to Seminole. We got we got your
Speaker 2: boy kickoff legend, David Coleman skipping Kickoff to go to Disneyland.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're only supposed to go to Disneyland
Speaker 1: if you win.
Speaker 2: Well, he I ain't winning anything kickoff. And look, that's
Speaker 2: if we really think about it. These guys have put in.
Speaker 2: You know that there was six events during Last Chance
Speaker 2: long days, a lot on the line, so you know
Speaker 2: they want to skip the first series of the season
Speaker 2: and go do something else. So go play someone else
Speaker 2: that's okay, they'll come back, they know where home is.
Speaker 2: But it gives you know what, It gives the opportunity
Speaker 2: to someone else like David Coleman this year to launch
Speaker 2: themselves up the leaderboard and be in a position to
Speaker 2: start the year as number one with that double points,
Speaker 2: that that extra lead, and maybe that propels them to
Speaker 2: play full schedules for the entire BGT season.
Speaker 1: Yeah we won't. We won't talk about it on this show.
Speaker 1: But the next one that we'll do in what I'm
Speaker 1: planning for is a couple of days. We got to
Speaker 1: do the same thing that we kind of did last year,
Speaker 1: you know, like who's going to be the break up
Speaker 1: player of the year whatever. I mean, not to too
Speaker 1: my own horn, but I did pick David Coleman, and
Speaker 1: then he just went out and kick off and just
Speaker 1: had four cash's one two events, just absolutely crushed the
Speaker 1: damn thing. So I'm going to try and find the
Speaker 1: next David Coleman. Okay. I also think that we need
Speaker 1: to install PGT. This is my suggestion, not that you
Speaker 1: asked me like you asked Jeremy, but but I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna inject it right here. We need to install awards
Speaker 1: for the PGT and and I want them to be
Speaker 1: like player voted awards, much like the NBA does it,
Speaker 1: and stuff like like I want like best short best
Speaker 1: short stack player. I mean, it's for sure going to
Speaker 1: be Sean Winter, but like, no, I know, but it'd
Speaker 1: be cool. It'd be cool to like you just will
Speaker 1: hand out like a little thing where people can just
Speaker 1: check names or write names or whatever. We'll pass it around,
Speaker 1: you know, best, this, best that, whatever.
Speaker 2: Like it. It'd be what's what's just put.
Speaker 1: Them out there as some content at the end we
Speaker 1: can talk about on the podcast like whatever. You know,
Speaker 1: like the gp I used to have that, you know,
Speaker 1: like the toughest player or whatever, and Steven Shouldwicks just
Speaker 1: win it every year, like what are the who's the
Speaker 1: toughest player in the PGT group? You know, like let's
Speaker 1: I think that was.
Speaker 2: No because I was chatting with David Coleman about the
Speaker 2: upcoming Global Parker Awards and I said that you're going,
Speaker 2: you know, you have to make a speech, et cetera,
Speaker 2: because no, I'm not. I'm not I'm going to try
Speaker 2: it or something. So okay, because I don't really like
Speaker 2: those awards kind of shows, and I go, well, you
Speaker 2: better like them because I'm going to do one for
Speaker 2: us next year. Kind of joking, but kind of serious
Speaker 2: because I keep thinking about, like, you know, I look
Speaker 2: at our all time stats and talking about you know,
Speaker 2: so much talk about WSP Hall of Fame. But I
Speaker 2: was like, well, we could have a PGT Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame at one point, just like it should be like
Speaker 2: a play in. You know, once you hit certain criteria,
Speaker 2: you're in. It's not a nomination thing. But like I
Speaker 2: was thinking, it'd be cool to have, you know, before
Speaker 2: the championship. You have the nice you have, like I
Speaker 2: said at dinner with like the forty that make it right,
Speaker 2: and you could I was actually thinking exactly what you
Speaker 2: just mentioned about awards and like presenting some in season awards,
Speaker 2: presenting some like five year period awards, et cetera. Kind
Speaker 2: of really put that put some effort into like showcasing
Speaker 2: our players and highlighting out players because I think they do.
Speaker 2: They do enjoy that. We heard them saying that during
Speaker 2: the championship. You know, we had like players playing in the
Speaker 2: championship for the first time. I was like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is awesome, this is so good, Like great to be
Speaker 2: a part of this, Like, you know, we're giving out
Speaker 2: this special I would.
Speaker 1: Say that too, if you're giving me a million dollar
Speaker 1: free roll.
Speaker 2: Yeah, letting you know they're bothering me up, got it,
Speaker 2: got it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're making sure the million comes back next year. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what they're doing.
Speaker 2: A million will always be there if it was up
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I thought the PGC Championship was a
Speaker 1: great event. I can't wait to run it back next year.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm very much looking forward to it once again.
Speaker 1: That sweat at the end, you know, right around I
Speaker 1: mean it started a little bit earlier than the Last
Speaker 1: Chance I mean Last Chances, when it really all like
Speaker 1: was headlining stuff, you know, coupled with the fact that
Speaker 1: there really wasn't anything else going on in poker, which
Speaker 1: which helps. But you know, just before that, you know,
Speaker 1: down in Texas, you know, just just starting to get
Speaker 1: the the the buzz out there of the people who
Speaker 1: are trying to chase those additional cashes, like all that
Speaker 1: sort of thing.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, I think personally, I would like to
Speaker 1: make it our biggest goal is to everyone comes that
Speaker 1: freaking qualifies.
Speaker 2: Like like that's what that's the one thing with changing.
Speaker 1: I know, but it's it's like, but I want them
Speaker 1: to all like come and you know whatever, Like I
Speaker 1: want them to be there when phil Ivy qualifies, Like, Well.
Speaker 2: There's one way to do that, and that's to change
Speaker 2: the payoffs where it's like everyone is cash is for
Speaker 2: five k up until the final table, like I discussed
Speaker 2: for Jeremy. That's that's probably the best way to people
Speaker 2: so people can realize some avas and equities straight away. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The other the other I was thinking about the three
Speaker 1: cash requirement. I was wondering if that should be higher.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't think I'm not because you and
Speaker 2: I have to.
Speaker 1: Baited this before, like this exact thing when we when
Speaker 1: we were putting it in, you and I were like debating,
Speaker 1: and I can't even remember what side we were on.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think this proof that three is
Speaker 2: a good number. We had obviously Jonathan Tomorrow fight everything
Speaker 2: in Texas Payler round up, fight everything it last chance
Speaker 2: to get one cash. You got it, Matthew Lambresh fight
Speaker 2: everything in Pokemons has missed out, Like there's some value
Speaker 2: to the three cash now if you go to four
Speaker 2: or five it's much harder for some guy that's you know,
Speaker 2: bingked one thing or two things at the World Series
Speaker 2: to chase three more cases throughout the especially if they're
Speaker 2: you know, businessman or you know they But I'm getting
Speaker 2: it is that I want to make it harder.
Speaker 1: I mean, no, it's not. It's not necessarily that I
Speaker 1: want to make it harder. I want to cater it
Speaker 1: more to the people that play the highest volume of
Speaker 1: our owned and operaated events in the studio. M That's
Speaker 1: what I want to do. Like if you have like
Speaker 1: five cashes at the Doubs a p and they're they're great,
Speaker 1: and they're certainly noteworthy, and they get you a lot
Speaker 1: of points and you want a lot of money. And
Speaker 1: it's not that that stuff is not extremely hard, because
Speaker 1: it is. But that's like done through a partnership more
Speaker 1: so than it is our own and operated events. You
Speaker 1: don't even really have it have to step foot in
Speaker 1: the studio. So, like, you know, I would rather somebody
Speaker 1: and maybe I'll change my mind if I think a
Speaker 1: little bit further this because I'm kind of just thinking
Speaker 1: off the top of my head, but like just somebody
Speaker 1: who's like literally always at the studio playing all of
Speaker 1: our events like that seems where we should be channeling things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's worth, it's worth definitely discussing. And we
Speaker 2: have a week now to figure out any rule tweaks
Speaker 2: or changes before before PG take kickoff. Let's go.
Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm ready for kickoff.
Speaker 2: I'm not I need this week off.
Speaker 1: I wish I wish you were running satellites for kickoff.
Speaker 2: You've got to talk to the area boys about that.
Speaker 2: One would yeah, definitely wouldn't make sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be in there for sure, especially with
Speaker 1: if you ultimately get in then it's double point to
Speaker 1: kind of catapults the whole thing, like yep, yeah, that'd
Speaker 1: be legit. So kickoff is gonna be fun. Coming up
Speaker 1: in just over a week's time. January twentieth is the
Speaker 1: first event. The plan is to stream the final tables
Speaker 1: January twenty first through twenty fifth. The plan is for
Speaker 1: REMC Rinkama and myself to be in the booth. So yeah,
Speaker 1: good stuff. And then right after that, it's like what
Speaker 1: two or three weeks before OPRA groke up, yep, and
Speaker 1: we're freaking off man, It's like right back the running.
Speaker 1: December is you know, in terms of our work, stuff
Speaker 1: is generally pretty low key, you know, and we obviously
Speaker 1: do our day to day, but without events running a lot,
Speaker 1: without shows being filmed, et cetera, it's it's a little
Speaker 1: bit uh or it's a lot less of a lift.
Speaker 1: That's one reason why Tim and I are out there
Speaker 1: playing a lot more in December. But then once January hits, man,
Speaker 1: it's go, go go. So here's to a successful PGT season.
Speaker 1: I think I can confidently say that it was successful,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to another successful one, and hopefully
Speaker 1: we can do it bigger and better than we did
Speaker 1: this last year. That's the goal. So let's see if
Speaker 1: we can make it happen. The pods won't stop, of course,
Speaker 1: let's go. I you said to our buddy Matt's average
Speaker 1: that we're going to do more pods this year than
Speaker 1: we did last year. You said that, yes, okay, now
Speaker 1: we got to do it.
Speaker 2: I just think that I'm going to kind of force
Speaker 2: you to, you know, do a few more. We go
Speaker 2: through some lulls outside of the World Series, so.
Speaker 1: You don't need to force me.
Speaker 2: No, I need to force you. You get lazy sometimes
Speaker 2: I don't get late. I think we'll do it. I
Speaker 2: think we I think we're already on a good look,
Speaker 2: We're already know this is our fourth part of the year.
Speaker 2: We're already off to a great start.
Speaker 1: Well, wait, who's last.
Speaker 2: Our fourth problem?
Speaker 1: Yours are mine? You know, you can't take one off.
Speaker 1: And then we're like, yeah, I was there. No, you
Speaker 1: weren't there. You weren't even sending an interview in.
Speaker 2: You didn't do it.
Speaker 1: You didn't do anything. You didn't do a damn thing
Speaker 1: for that podcast. I did it. I woke my ass
Speaker 1: up at five am. I went downstairs, I recorded the
Speaker 1: damn podcast. And you didn't do anything. You were sleeping, sleepy.
Speaker 2: Our team has done four this Yeah, it took us
Speaker 2: till February fourteenth last year to get to four. The
Speaker 2: year before that, it took us about the same time.
Speaker 2: But I just feel like we're going to be more
Speaker 2: consistent outside of the World Series. We're very good during
Speaker 2: the World Series. Outside of the World Series, we need
Speaker 2: to be better and it's a bit of a challenge
Speaker 2: to ourselves to just keep the news flowing for the
Speaker 2: listeners out there. And yeah, maybe we'll crack one hundred
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 1: We'll we will one thousand percent crack one hundred.
Speaker 2: Geez okay, I just said, mo, you've just increases.
Speaker 1: By gonna happen. Happen for sure. All right, I got
Speaker 1: nothing else talk.
Speaker 2: About, do you I'm ready to eat some pizza?
Speaker 1: Ready to Did you order pizza?
Speaker 2: No? My wife put a pizza in the oven. Little
Speaker 2: like you know those ones you buy from like Costco,
Speaker 2: frozen barbecue chicken. I think it is.
Speaker 1: Those are the worst pizzas in the universe.
Speaker 2: Barbecue chicken will just box barbecue.
Speaker 1: Chicken sounds horrible, yes, but also frozen pizzas horrible.
Speaker 2: It's fine. I found one that I like.
Speaker 1: They're not good first of all, and they're also horrible
Speaker 1: for you because they got to put all this ship
Speaker 1: in them to like allow them to stay for Just
Speaker 1: go out, get some nice, freshly made pizza and that's
Speaker 1: the way to go. All right, that's gonna do it
Speaker 1: for us. We got nothing else to talk about, but
Speaker 1: we'll be back in a few days. I want to
Speaker 1: do like, like you know, predictions for the PGT season,
Speaker 1: maybe talk about some stuff general, just on the poker year,
Speaker 1: find the new David Coleman. Yes, we'll do that. You know,
Speaker 1: so we'll hit on all of that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: It's it's a little bit of a weird time because
Speaker 1: in my head our year is ending now, even though
Speaker 1: we were already you know, eleven days into the new year.
Speaker 1: So it's just it's just how we set it up
Speaker 1: on the calendar. But yeah, no big deal. So we'll
Speaker 1: be getting to that stuff. So stay tuned to that.
Speaker 1: I haven't asked in a while. And if you're listening now,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you greatly, But leave a review. I don't
Speaker 1: think we've had many reviews on the podcast. We got it.
Speaker 1: That's one thing we definitely have to do. We got
Speaker 1: to bring back the review contest sort of thing that
Speaker 1: we've been doing many are for for a long time now.
Speaker 1: So let's let's like ramp that back up and get
Speaker 1: that back going. I'm sure we have some merchant whatever
Speaker 1: that we can give out. So all right, guys, that's
Speaker 1: gonna do it for us. My name is Donnie Peters.
Speaker 1: His name is Tim Duckworth, and we'll talk to you
Speaker 1: guys next time.
Speaker 2: Say yeah, brads night. Jenny Express