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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to fly solo on this episode because my

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<v Speaker 1>guy Tim Duckworth is here left me hanging on the

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<v Speaker 1>last one. Sure, explain yourself for the people. Go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>explain yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, what time did you record?

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<v Speaker 1>Like five point fifteen in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well we did a finish the two am, and

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<v Speaker 2>I have a message from you saying I'm tapping out,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to bed. So I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not waiting up when I have no idea when

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<v Speaker 1>that thing's going to end.

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<v Speaker 2>True. And then obviously dehm at two am didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>much sleep. The soccer game this morning at seven am,

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<v Speaker 2>so I said, do a solo. You got this here?

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<v Speaker 1>Big boy didn't even give me an interview. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you don't understand how, Like all the players were

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<v Speaker 2>upset last night because it was so late and we

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't change They didn't want to change the start time today,

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<v Speaker 2>so they were they were grumpy everyone I was. I

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<v Speaker 2>was grumpy too.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you change the start time.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they couldn't. I don't know, oh, because they could.

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<v Speaker 2>It's already, it's already in the works for next year,

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<v Speaker 2>changing the structure a little bit. For this event.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to go back to giving people the adequate

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<v Speaker 1>number of big blinds that they deserve, the points that

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<v Speaker 1>they earn.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because you were here in the interview that I

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<v Speaker 2>did without champion.

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<v Speaker 1>I listened to the interview already. We'll play the interview that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Very rusty before you say something very rusty.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let we got we've like way buried the lead. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like wait wait, wait wait, Jeremy Osmas. Not only did

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<v Speaker 1>mister Osmas win PGT Player of the Year, but Jeremy

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<v Speaker 1>Osmas is the PGT Million Dollar Championship winner. If you

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<v Speaker 1>guys can believe it, the guy is a god.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a goat.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I recall, somebody on this podcast drafted mister

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you were out there Beacon on Twitter. I saw you.

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<v Speaker 1>But who picked the winner? That's right. Speaking of getting lucky,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Osma's got lucky in a very very big hand

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<v Speaker 1>that we will review. We'll talk about the championship. Jeremy

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<v Speaker 1>Osmas did come out on top as I mentioned, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it would be very fitting if Ozmas came

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<v Speaker 1>out on top of the championship event having been the

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<v Speaker 1>player of the year. Of course, that's never really a given.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably not the favorite overall, just because so much

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<v Speaker 1>can happen in a single poker tournament. But Jeremy Osmus delivered.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy absolutely dominated across the entire PGT season, So

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<v Speaker 1>it is quite fitting that we wrap up the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four Poker Grow Tour season with a victory from Ozmas,

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<v Speaker 1>and he took home five hundred thousand dollars in prize money.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about what happened

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<v Speaker 1>on the final day of the event. As I previewed

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<v Speaker 1>by myself, solo pod was so difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>We loved it, just talking NonStop.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>Six players came into the final day and we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about all of them and how they fared overall. Dode,

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<v Speaker 1>you tell you guys once again, I've been telling you NonStop.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you again. I right before we hopped

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<v Speaker 1>on the air, I just closed a table on Play

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<v Speaker 1>Poker Grow. I had like three hundred and fifty three

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<v Speaker 1>million in ships one guy, Well, on the biggest table,

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<v Speaker 1>you start with one hundred millions, not like that much,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is great to say one guy got so

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<v Speaker 1>lucky against me, so lucky against me. We got it

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<v Speaker 1>all in on a ten seven six or ten seven

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<v Speaker 1>four rainbow flop. I had ace ten, he had seven

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<v Speaker 1>to six, and he hit a seven on the river

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<v Speaker 1>to stack me. But then I went ahead and got

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<v Speaker 1>it all back, all of the back baby from said

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<v Speaker 1>player and a few other players as well. So hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if you guys want to get out there and battle

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<v Speaker 1>against me, you can also battle against Tim who I

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<v Speaker 1>folded aces to yesterday correctly. So folded aces, you had

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<v Speaker 1>a full house.

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<v Speaker 2>I timed out. I flopped the full house.

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<v Speaker 1>You timed up, but then you came back.

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<v Speaker 2>No I know it, but I was okay. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to put a bed in of like some

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<v Speaker 2>really silly number, and I want to let me bet that number.

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<v Speaker 2>So then I just had to push the clicker up

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<v Speaker 2>to like sixteen million or whatever, and then I timed out.

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<v Speaker 2>You bet. I had to check raise. I can't if

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<v Speaker 2>you're bearing that real lead, which is which is the

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<v Speaker 2>bad bait you put on me? Krim, I'll tell you that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you the hand. I made a three blinds

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<v Speaker 2>on the button three million ace ten off suit. You

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<v Speaker 2>three bet me to eight million from the small one

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<v Speaker 2>with aces. I called or one hundred million.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I

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<v Speaker 1>had aces. Yeah, and this is this is a bad

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<v Speaker 1>beat for you. And I had aces because exactly this

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<v Speaker 1>is how Tim thinks about poker. He did not have

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<v Speaker 1>the best hand at any point in this hand. He

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<v Speaker 1>got bad beat.

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<v Speaker 2>You have never played a hand so absurd. You three

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<v Speaker 2>bets of eight million. I call flop comes eight four

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<v Speaker 2>three rainbow check check turner is an ace. You bet

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<v Speaker 2>three million, so like one millionth of the pot. I

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<v Speaker 2>call rivers are ten, You shove eighty nine million. I've

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<v Speaker 2>got aces up. I mean, I'm never folding to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So I call and you have top set.

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<v Speaker 1>Just what a cooler cool Listen, this is This is

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<v Speaker 1>a long way to say that if you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>looking for poker that is fun and free, come join

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<v Speaker 1>and I in the play poker gro streets. It's authentic

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<v Speaker 1>poker action.

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<v Speaker 2>It's me.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can get in there and do different things,

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<v Speaker 1>try out different plays. Whatever you are playing against real

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<v Speaker 1>players like Tim and myself, we were both on there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's tram stop, I'm Brasco. So hop right into a

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<v Speaker 1>ring game, get into the tournaments that they have. Whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do, it's on play poker gro. Every

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<v Speaker 1>hand on play poker gro feels like the real deal.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys can check it out on web iOS and android.

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<v Speaker 1>Just head on over to play PokerGO dot com. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get back to the main topic at hand, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the PGT Million Dollar Championship. So as I went

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<v Speaker 1>over yesterday again completely by myself, you know, just had

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<v Speaker 1>to carry the whole load. You had forty four players

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<v Speaker 1>that began in the PGT Million Dollar Championship. They were

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<v Speaker 1>whittled down to six. You had this wild double bubble

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<v Speaker 1>situation with not only two players, but the players involved

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<v Speaker 1>in this double bubble situation were married Alex Foxen and

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<v Speaker 1>Christen fox so just wild stuff. They were playing four

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<v Speaker 1>and four they ended up busting on I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>same hand, although albeit on different tables. So they got

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<v Speaker 1>everyone into the money. And then today you had Dylan Wiseman,

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<v Speaker 1>who had the chip lead, came into the day ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of a big HUNI Chris Huniken, Calvin Anderson, Jim Collapy,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Shulman, and Jeremy Osmas. Of course, as we mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>off the top of the show, Jeremy Osmos ultimately went

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<v Speaker 1>on to win the whole thing. Everyone that was left

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<v Speaker 1>that came into today was guaranteed forty thousand dollars. They

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<v Speaker 1>were playing for a five hundred thousand dollars first place prize,

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<v Speaker 1>the million dollars that is put up for this free

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<v Speaker 1>role on behalf of Poker Grow On the Poker Grow Tour.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit top heavy in this format, but

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<v Speaker 1>we like it that way. First place under k, second

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<v Speaker 1>place two hundred k, then one twenty eighty sixty and forty.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Jim Collopy who busted first. I got a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a late start to watching the stream.

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<v Speaker 1>I came in when they were five handed, almost running

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<v Speaker 1>around with my kids this morning. But I was surprised

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<v Speaker 1>to see Callipy go out early. He was sporting the

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<v Speaker 1>I guess what I would call the now Jim Calliby

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<v Speaker 1>famous PGT beanie that he always wears. He also had.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, hold up always wears. I gave it to

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<v Speaker 2>him like two days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he has this thing on a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like beat. Okay, I gave it to him.

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<v Speaker 2>He guys, oh, I'll wear that, didn't have one you

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<v Speaker 2>normally wears another beanie.

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<v Speaker 1>He had his Poker Masters purple jacket on. Yes, nice,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he had okay, this is definitely Jim Calliby

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<v Speaker 1>famous his can of liquid death water love. He always

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<v Speaker 1>has that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you like liquid death?

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<v Speaker 1>I've had it once and it tasted like water in

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<v Speaker 1>a can.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't really know what it was like.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not that I don't like it, It

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't like what's so special about it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of my my thing. What's interesting to me is that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean early on, nothing really crazy happened right away,

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<v Speaker 1>right like, not that I could tell when I was

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<v Speaker 1>skimming through the updates and like getting myself caught up

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<v Speaker 1>because cal it Be came into the day. What third

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<v Speaker 1>or fourth in chips? Yeah, so I mean obviously Dylan

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<v Speaker 1>Wiseman had the big chip lead. Yes, but yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, it's just it's Collop, He's

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<v Speaker 1>got sevens, it's Shulman's got ace King. The money goes in.

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<v Speaker 1>Shulman flops a king and that's that for Jim Callipy.

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<v Speaker 1>But it kind of just seemed like out of nowhere

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<v Speaker 1>that it that it happened early on, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I was. I don't know, I guess I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit surprised always when uh, you know, the player

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<v Speaker 1>who's the short stack doesn't go out first, but whatever

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<v Speaker 1>call it. He takes on forty k for that, which

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<v Speaker 1>good score for him. And then you had Chris Hunikin

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<v Speaker 1>going out after that in fifth place, so he he

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<v Speaker 1>lost I think a huge hand six versus Queens. And

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<v Speaker 1>this this was a spot where if anyone has well,

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone's ever played with Calvin Anderson, you'll you'll know

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what I'm talking about. Over anyone's ever watched Calvin

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson play, I mean, he's he's out there and he's

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<v Speaker 1>and what I mean by that is he's in almost

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<v Speaker 1>every single hand. I mean he plays like eighty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of hands. It's absolutely wild. If you're at his table,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a giant pain in the ass to play with

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<v Speaker 1>him because he can have just about anything at any

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<v Speaker 1>given moment, and he's also very good. He's aggressive, so

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<v Speaker 1>he can you know, certainly get creative and think outside

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<v Speaker 1>the box. So overall it's just a giant thorn in

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<v Speaker 1>your side constantly playing against Anderson, which I think ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>led to this Chris Unichan bust out, which was he

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<v Speaker 1>opens on the button, Dylan Wiseman calls from the small blind,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Calvin Andersen puts in a three bet from

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<v Speaker 1>the big blind. Looks like the perfect squeeze spot, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he can be doing this with a lot of different hands. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just got queens hunigans decides to rip in the

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<v Speaker 1>pocket sixes. Wiseman obviously gets out of the way, and

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson calls, what the Queen's the Queen's hold and that well, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't that for Heunickan because he was left with

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen k when the big blind was fifty k. He

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<v Speaker 1>ends up doubling up twice, I believe, and then and

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<v Speaker 1>then gets knocked out shortly after that. So he takes

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<v Speaker 1>on fifth place for sixty thousand dollars. Then they get

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<v Speaker 1>down to four handed play, of course, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden it's like Jeremy Osmas starts chipping up, but

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<v Speaker 1>then Calvin Anderson kind of like puts the smack down

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and he continues to chip up again,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's starting to look like it's Calvin Anderson's tournament

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<v Speaker 1>to lose. He's just gonna kind of run away with

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<v Speaker 1>this thing. And then Dylan Wiseman, who started the final

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<v Speaker 1>table as the chip leader, he ultimately goes out in

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<v Speaker 1>fourth place, and he got unlucky to do so. He

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<v Speaker 1>opened with pocket s Evans, Calvin Anderson three bat with

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<v Speaker 1>ACE five off. Wiseman put it all in with those sevens,

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson called it off. Anderson flopped one five and turned

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<v Speaker 1>another five and obviously held from there to knock out

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<v Speaker 1>Wiseman in fourth place. What's interesting about this spot is

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<v Speaker 1>that on day one. At the end of day one,

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<v Speaker 1>Wiseman busted Alex Foxen in eighth place with ACE five

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<v Speaker 1>versus Ace King getting lucky hitting a five. He hit

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<v Speaker 1>a five on the turn.

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<v Speaker 2>You're missing the one hand. I just wanted to go

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<v Speaker 2>back back a little bit with two hands for Keith.

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<v Speaker 2>For Wiseman, he had one blind on blind battle with

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<v Speaker 2>Calvin Ace ten versus ten to nine nine high flop

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<v Speaker 2>tailment to some chips went in there, so he last

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<v Speaker 2>had one to Calvin.

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<v Speaker 1>That one could have been worse though on the river

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<v Speaker 1>because a four flush or sorry a four straight was

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<v Speaker 1>on board if somebody had either seven or eight. So

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<v Speaker 1>the river ended up going check check. But it could

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<v Speaker 1>have been a lot worse for Wiseman had the river

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<v Speaker 1>not not coming but like a four liner out there.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was that one, but yeah, that was that

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<v Speaker 1>was bad for for Dylan for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was the big one against Osmas without

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<v Speaker 2>favorite hand. Osmas had the King Queen versus the Ace

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<v Speaker 2>Queen of Wiseman.

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<v Speaker 1>They get it all the way. Yeah, that one King

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<v Speaker 1>on the River.

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<v Speaker 2>King on the River, the first three outa that Jeremy

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<v Speaker 2>is going to hit at this final table.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean this one obviously kept Jeremy and the

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<v Speaker 1>tournament because he was all in. It was Dylan Wiseman

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<v Speaker 1>raising two or from the cut off seat, Jeremy Osmas

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<v Speaker 1>moved all in from the small blind with King Queen suited.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is a pretty understandable place so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Wiseman calls he's got a dominating East Queen. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>the way queen clean until the river six six four

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<v Speaker 1>nine boom, cowboy King on the River, And that was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge double up for Jeremie Osmas I was in

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<v Speaker 1>the chat. Everyone was like, this guy, not only is

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<v Speaker 1>he really good at poker, not only is he really

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<v Speaker 1>good looking, he's lucky as all hell. So so so

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<v Speaker 1>there was that, and then and then after that is

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<v Speaker 1>when shortly thereafter is when Wisman ended up busting. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he lost right around about half a stack or

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<v Speaker 1>so when he doubled up Ozma, so was still in it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not as short as when Hewniken, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>lost that that huge hand to really cripple him, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, still wasn't able to come back from it

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<v Speaker 1>at all. And then the hand of the tournament arguably,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is in contention for hand of the

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<v Speaker 1>year and it's only January eleventh, like that, this should

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<v Speaker 1>be in contention all the way till the end. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was for sure the hand of the PGT season.

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<v Speaker 1>It was this hand is out of control. So they

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<v Speaker 1>are playing three handed. Calvin Anderson has a sizeable chip lead,

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<v Speaker 1>although Jeremy Osmos has started to work his way up

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<v Speaker 1>and really cut into that lead. And then Nick Schulman

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<v Speaker 1>had around I don't know seventeen or eighteen big lines

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<v Speaker 1>in third place. So they play this hand where Calvin

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson limps in from the small blind and Jeremy Osmas

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<v Speaker 1>checks his option in the big blind. I watched this

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<v Speaker 1>hand as it happened on stream, so I knew what

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<v Speaker 1>they had. And Anderson had ten nine off. Ozmas has

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<v Speaker 1>jack nine off, so Ozma's in a pretty good spot here,

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<v Speaker 1>dominating the flop comes ten nine six with two diamonds,

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<v Speaker 1>the ten of diamonds and the six of diamonds, so

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<v Speaker 1>top two pair four Anderson, and then middle pair with

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<v Speaker 1>that nine for Ozmas. He's also got the jack of

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<v Speaker 1>diamonds in his hand, which is important to note here

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<v Speaker 1>because it does provide some back door outs as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson did have the nine of diamonds in his hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Both players check, and the turn is the nine of clubs,

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<v Speaker 1>So here we go. Trips for Osmas, who's in position

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<v Speaker 1>against Anderson, who has a full house nines over tens.

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<v Speaker 1>Starts off with Anderson checking. Ozma bets one hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time the blinds were forty thousand and eight thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Osmas comes with one hundred thousand. Instead of slow playing this,

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson just decides to fast play it right away, comes

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<v Speaker 1>back with a check RaSE to three seventy five. Ozmas

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<v Speaker 1>fires right back. I mean he took some time, but

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<v Speaker 1>fired back eight hundred thousand from Ozmas, and then Anderson

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<v Speaker 1>clicks it up to one point three to five million,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, what the hell just transpired? This was

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<v Speaker 1>limped pre check down the flop, and now all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, these guys are going bonkers on the turn.

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell is happening? Obviously you're watching this in

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<v Speaker 1>real time and you can see the whole cards on

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<v Speaker 1>the stream and you're just like, oh my, like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, this is crazy. Course, Ozmas has way too

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<v Speaker 1>much of a hand on the turn with trip nine,

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<v Speaker 1>so he can never fold, especially against Cal, so he

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<v Speaker 1>calls the River's the jack of clubs. I mean hello.

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<v Speaker 1>With the action on the turn, Cal's probably thinking like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe he has seven to eight here, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he's got sixes full, but like six is full, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not really fits in there because Ozma's checked back pre

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<v Speaker 1>but he's like he's got to have at least nine, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he doesn't have tens because Cal feels good

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<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't have tens because he didn't raise pretty

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<v Speaker 1>Ozma's so he's probably thinking seven, eight, nine to six

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<v Speaker 1>maybe to some degree pocket sixes is in there. Then

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<v Speaker 1>the River's the Jack of clubs. I mean, just incredible stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>The pot's like at this point, what like two point

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<v Speaker 1>eight million or something ridiculous. And Anderson comes with a

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<v Speaker 1>super small bat three ninety. Ozmas moves all in. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Ozma's did the all but one chip left, everything but

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<v Speaker 1>one five thousand chip behind. Anderson announces that he's all in.

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<v Speaker 1>Ozma's obviously quickly calls and I've never seen cal react

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<v Speaker 1>really at all. And he reacted. He kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>shot out of his chair. He couldn't believe it, like

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<v Speaker 1>it was just it was absolutely sickening on his behalf.

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<v Speaker 1>And then if you're you know, in camp Ozmas, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what a freaking river card. Seriously, Ozmas ends up doubling

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<v Speaker 1>up to over five point eight million, Calvin Anderson takes

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<v Speaker 1>a big tumble down the leaderboard to one point seventy

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<v Speaker 1>three million, So just absolutely absolutely wild stuff. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, me running through the hand the hand history

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<v Speaker 1>here on the podcast, it can probably give you some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of idea, but you got you just got to

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<v Speaker 1>watch it. I mean, the hand was absolutely incredible really,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's out now on the poker Goo Twitter account,

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<v Speaker 1>so go check it out. It's just the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just wild and like on the turn again, the

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<v Speaker 1>hand just it starts kind of meaningless. Obviously, players connect

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<v Speaker 1>with the flop and then the you know, the the

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<v Speaker 1>nine pairs of the board. On the turn, You're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>some fireworks, but in a limped pot, how crazy is

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<v Speaker 1>it gonna get? And then all of a sudden, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like raise, raise, right, what the hell's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Shulman ends up finding a double up through Calvin Anderson.

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<v Speaker 1>There's that, and then Calvin Anderson is super short. He's

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<v Speaker 1>in the small blind. He moves all in the jack

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<v Speaker 1>five and guess what, Jeremie Osmas just has two kings

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<v Speaker 1>in the big blind, Like, no big deal, so he

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<v Speaker 1>quickly calls there those kings hold. I mean Ousma's went

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<v Speaker 1>on to make a full house. No big deal, and

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<v Speaker 1>Ozmus ends up knocking out Calvin Anderson in third place.

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<v Speaker 1>At Anderson takes some one hundred and twenty thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Ozmas takes a big, big chip lead into

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<v Speaker 1>heads up play seven point four million for Ozmas one

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<v Speaker 1>point eight million for Shulman and Buddy. We both drafted

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<v Speaker 1>these guys. Unfortunately you didn't draft as well as I did,

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<v Speaker 1>because I picked the guy who had I picked the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who had the horseshoe up his ass. For the

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<v Speaker 1>entire final table, we got we, we got it, we

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<v Speaker 1>got we got people down to heads up play.

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<v Speaker 2>I also had the bubble boy too, or one of

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<v Speaker 2>the bubble boys. That doesn't count for anything, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was right there. I was right there.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't count for anything. How long did they play

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<v Speaker 1>heads up for a long time? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Oh, they didn't heads up? No, they didn't play

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<v Speaker 2>long at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. Oh, I was confused because I texted you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a delayed response, very delayed response, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Made me think that they were playing for like an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what are these guys doing?

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<v Speaker 2>It took they took a long break, and then yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>got back into it.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to tell me if it happened. But

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<v Speaker 1>do you allow a chop to happen in this situation,

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<v Speaker 1>mister commissioner.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say money, they can do whatever they want.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I know it's like money plus passport dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we just want the passports to remain in You know,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing with these two people, they're probably the

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<v Speaker 2>two of the best ten people to get heads up

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<v Speaker 2>up for what we're trying to do. We're regarding passports like,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no no worries that Nick and Jeremy going

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<v Speaker 2>to eat through their passports within a couple of series.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, by the Sugar Roke Cup I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I did joke with you know, Jeremy. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, this expires, you know in two weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>so PGT kickoff is going to be wild. But yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>these two guys that they play very easily, the two

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<v Speaker 2>of the top five, you know most events played per

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<v Speaker 2>season in the studio, so they're going to get through

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<v Speaker 2>it no problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So they didn't play long and then the final

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<v Speaker 1>hand came up and it was actually a bluff by

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<v Speaker 1>Shulman that ended up getting picked off in a good

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<v Speaker 1>call by Ozmas. In the end, the hands started out

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<v Speaker 1>with Shulman limping the button he had eight five off.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Osmus checked his option with King nine off from

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Blind. It comes Jack nine to seven with

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of diamonds, Ozma's check calls a bet fromman

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<v Speaker 1>on the turn. The turn is the deuce of clubs,

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<v Speaker 1>so a blank there. It was Jack of Spade's nine

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<v Speaker 1>of diamonds, seven of diamonds on the flops and the

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<v Speaker 1>turn is the deuce of clubs. Ozma's check calls again,

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<v Speaker 1>this time a little bit of the larger bets, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the river comes the seven of clubs, so it

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<v Speaker 1>pairs the board. Ozma's checks and Shulman moves all in

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<v Speaker 1>for one point one four five million. I think the

420
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<v Speaker 1>pot at the time was like eight hundred and ninety.

421
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<v Speaker 1>It was eight or nine hundred, I believe eight nine

422
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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand, So Ozma's per Sorry, Shulman moves all in

423
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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of tank, but not not too long.

424
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<v Speaker 1>Ozmas puts in the call. Shulman obviously turns over the

425
00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:43.599
<v Speaker 1>old eight five for a missed gutter here, and Jeremy's

426
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<v Speaker 1>out the door, or sorry, Shulman's out the door because

427
00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:51.519
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy had middle pair. Interesting spot, you know, for for

428
00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy overall, you know, does have that king of diamonds

429
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<v Speaker 1>in his hand. Maybe can lean that you want your

430
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<v Speaker 1>opponent to have the diamonds and and have missed the

431
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<v Speaker 1>fluster and just go go piling. But I don't know,

432
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if in like a heads of scenario

433
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<v Speaker 1>like this, that king of diamonds is as important of

434
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<v Speaker 1>a blocker as other situations. But nevertheless, Ozmas was true

435
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<v Speaker 1>to the test and he passed it. And uh, he's

436
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<v Speaker 1>the PGT Championship. Kind of interesting that Shulman. I mean,

437
00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:28.359
<v Speaker 1>what a week ago, week and a half ago, had

438
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<v Speaker 1>that crazy bluff that he pulled at in the first

439
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<v Speaker 1>event at the final table of the PGT Last Chance

440
00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Series where he went for it against Yao Samau on

441
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<v Speaker 1>the river having a king blocker to a Broadway straight combination,

442
00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:45.559
<v Speaker 1>but somehow obviously had it. Every time you think you

443
00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:49.119
<v Speaker 1>have the blocker, they have it. It's so frustrating. But anyway,

444
00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Shulman ended up going on to win that event. You know,

445
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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he nearly bluffed off his entire tournament

446
00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:57.559
<v Speaker 1>didn't matter. He came back, ended up winning it. And

447
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<v Speaker 1>then he ends up finishing second place here, ultimately going

448
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<v Speaker 1>out on a bluffbutt valiant effort by him. Two hundred

449
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<v Speaker 1>K in Shulman's pocket and again Jeremy Osmas five hundred

450
00:24:09.119 --> 00:24:13.440
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars richer the PGT Player of the Year. He

451
00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:17.599
<v Speaker 1>locked up that title. He crushed the leader board two thy,

452
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<v Speaker 1>nine hundred and sixty six points. He was likely going

453
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<v Speaker 1>to be the PGT Player of the Year no matter

454
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<v Speaker 1>what happened during PGT Last Chance. But then he went

455
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<v Speaker 1>out and got a second place anyway, to pat his

456
00:24:27.240 --> 00:24:29.920
<v Speaker 1>lead a little bit more. He took home a fifty

457
00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:32.759
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars championship or sorry, fifty thousand dollars bonus prize

458
00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:36.319
<v Speaker 1>for wing the Player of the Year honors. And then

459
00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:39.079
<v Speaker 1>here he obviously comes in first place as we have mentioned,

460
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<v Speaker 1>five hundred K for Ozma. So just an absolutely incredible

461
00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:48.799
<v Speaker 1>year from Jeremy Osmas. And afterwards you spoke with him, sir,

462
00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I did at length I think about thirteen minutes or

463
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<v Speaker 1>so fourteen minutes. So we'll play that interview for you

464
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<v Speaker 1>guys right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeremy, congratulations on two things. Factly, twenty twenty four PGT

466
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<v Speaker 2>Player of the secondly winner of the pg team Million

467
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<v Speaker 2>Dollar Championship.

468
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:07.599
<v Speaker 3>But let's talk about.

469
00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Player of the winning that season long playing hundreds of events.

470
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<v Speaker 2>How does it what does it mean to you to

471
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<v Speaker 2>win that honor?

472
00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:21.400
<v Speaker 4>A lot, Like I was selling Jeff Platt. You know,

473
00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:25.079
<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of the best players in the world

474
00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:27.240
<v Speaker 4>here in Vegas, and this is kind of where we

475
00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:31.079
<v Speaker 4>come to battle and the place that pgt's provided for

476
00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:33.000
<v Speaker 4>us to play high sakes that didn't used to exist

477
00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:37.759
<v Speaker 4>on a very regular basis. So it's just really it

478
00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:40.640
<v Speaker 4>means a lot because it's it's tough, tough competition, lots

479
00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:43.160
<v Speaker 4>of great players, so to win it is amazing. The

480
00:25:43.240 --> 00:25:47.599
<v Speaker 4>leaderboards awesome. I love it it really, I don't know,

481
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<v Speaker 4>I love the leaderboard. It just really inspires me to

482
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:51.599
<v Speaker 4>play a lot a leader just like it's kind of

483
00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:52.279
<v Speaker 4>like a video game.

484
00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:53.839
<v Speaker 3>You want to try to get to the top, you know,

485
00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:55.480
<v Speaker 3>So for me, I just I love it.

486
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:57.519
<v Speaker 2>So when the season starts, you know, like a new

487
00:25:57.519 --> 00:25:59.720
<v Speaker 2>season is going to sound soon. Is this something that's

488
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:01.079
<v Speaker 2>I could all of you like, Hey, I'm going to

489
00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:02.720
<v Speaker 2>win it this year? Or is it more just like

490
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:05.960
<v Speaker 2>you know the results of falling away, Hey let's make

491
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<v Speaker 2>a run of this.

492
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<v Speaker 4>Well, I just am going to put in a lot

493
00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:14.359
<v Speaker 4>of volume here no matter what. And so like I've

494
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:18.640
<v Speaker 4>never set financial or monetary goals for poker, I just

495
00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:21.039
<v Speaker 4>try to put in that time and play my best

496
00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:23.720
<v Speaker 4>and always improve. Those are like my three things, right,

497
00:26:24.119 --> 00:26:26.519
<v Speaker 4>and then the results take care of themselves eventually. So

498
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<v Speaker 4>I think my chances every year are good to win

499
00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.160
<v Speaker 4>this because I play all the games. I live here,

500
00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:35.279
<v Speaker 4>so at the series, i'm here and I get to

501
00:26:35.319 --> 00:26:37.279
<v Speaker 4>sleep my own bed, I go all out of the series,

502
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:40.400
<v Speaker 4>and those are very point you know, heavy for points

503
00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:44.880
<v Speaker 4>for the PGT. So yeah, I just think every I

504
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:46.519
<v Speaker 4>just have a great shot every year.

505
00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:49.599
<v Speaker 3>But it's not like I guess it's my goal, but

506
00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:52.519
<v Speaker 3>it's not like my specific goal, but it's kind of

507
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:55.480
<v Speaker 3>just the outcome of my process. I guess would.

508
00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:58.720
<v Speaker 2>You say that heading into HPGT season that you're among

509
00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:02.640
<v Speaker 2>the one to three maybe five people that are favorites

510
00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:05.480
<v Speaker 2>to always win, you know, top Player of the year.

511
00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:07.440
<v Speaker 3>I think for sure I am.

512
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.039
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, Nigranio and me are put in

513
00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:13.599
<v Speaker 4>the most end. Probably Jim Callapi are probably the three

514
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:16.319
<v Speaker 4>guys that come to mind that are in here battling

515
00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:21.920
<v Speaker 4>like every series, every you know, PLO Mix, No Limit

516
00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:26.119
<v Speaker 4>World Series, we play everything. So yeah, those are the

517
00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:27.640
<v Speaker 4>three that really come to mind. There's a lot of

518
00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:30.000
<v Speaker 4>there's others too that maybe don't play mix, but they

519
00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:32.359
<v Speaker 4>they play a lot of PLO, No Women, Sean Winter

520
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:38.240
<v Speaker 4>Solverle So yeah, I'm definitely up there with I think

521
00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:39.759
<v Speaker 4>one of the favorite sinum.

522
00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Talking about your season, you know, it took a while

523
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:43.920
<v Speaker 2>for you to get that win on the ball, you know,

524
00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:46.079
<v Speaker 2>before that, there's a bit of a lull. Does that

525
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:49.240
<v Speaker 2>how does that affect you, you know, turning up every day?

526
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Is it something frustrating or is it just kind of

527
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:53.559
<v Speaker 2>part of the process, part of the grind, part of

528
00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:56.720
<v Speaker 2>like what you're expecting when you come here. Yeah, it doesn't.

529
00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:59.839
<v Speaker 4>It really doesn't bother me that much to not win.

530
00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:03.440
<v Speaker 4>I look at how my years going, Am I winning?

531
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:06.599
<v Speaker 3>Am I losing? Like how many final tables have I made?

532
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:09.559
<v Speaker 3>How many? You know, because I've had I was just

533
00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:11.039
<v Speaker 3>deep in everything. So it's like.

534
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:14.960
<v Speaker 4>There's kind of a trade off you can make, Like

535
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:17.079
<v Speaker 4>certain players will either have all the chips in the

536
00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:18.960
<v Speaker 4>tournament and they're going to win more often, or they're

537
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:20.440
<v Speaker 4>going to be out but they're not going to be

538
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:23.400
<v Speaker 4>there as much, right, So what makes the most money?

539
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:24.759
<v Speaker 3>That's what I try to focus on.

540
00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:28.039
<v Speaker 4>And I think being there a lot and getting seconds

541
00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:30.519
<v Speaker 4>and thirds and fifths and sixth. That all adds up

542
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:33.839
<v Speaker 4>to a lot. So it's not like the Super Bowl.

543
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:36.400
<v Speaker 4>It's not like football or baseball where the only goal

544
00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:38.480
<v Speaker 4>is to win and you get second, you lost.

545
00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:40.920
<v Speaker 3>It's just not like that with poker.

546
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:42.640
<v Speaker 4>When you get second and you want a bunch of money,

547
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:47.119
<v Speaker 4>you won, right, So the titles are nice and they

548
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:48.359
<v Speaker 4>come eventually.

549
00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:53.640
<v Speaker 2>But that wasn't bothering me really sometimes round But I

550
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:55.920
<v Speaker 2>guess one of your favorite things about the PGT is

551
00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:59.440
<v Speaker 2>the lead of Baard. Obviously playing the studio is a great.

552
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:00.240
<v Speaker 3>Place to play.

553
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.279
<v Speaker 2>Bit what don't you like about the PGT? Is there

554
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:05.759
<v Speaker 2>anything that you would like to see, you know, going

555
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:08.119
<v Speaker 2>forward improved or something, Hey, I would like this to happen.

556
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:10.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, we always have people pitching the half and

557
00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:12.559
<v Speaker 2>half and then and other things, and we've made lots

558
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:14.759
<v Speaker 2>of changes over the years, adding a mixed series, adding

559
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:17.200
<v Speaker 2>a pelog. But to you personally, what would you like,

560
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:19.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, to see in twenty twenty five or twenty

561
00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:19.799
<v Speaker 2>twenty six.

562
00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:23.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean first could be like five million and stuff.

563
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:28.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, I mean I don't have any complaints about

564
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:31.920
<v Speaker 4>it's amazing. I'm just very grateful for the PGT even

565
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:35.559
<v Speaker 4>existing because it gives me a place to come come

566
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:38.519
<v Speaker 4>work a lot, right, and they add in this extra money,

567
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:41.119
<v Speaker 4>so it's a it's a big deal for like the

568
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:44.720
<v Speaker 4>grinding professionals like me and Jim and you know people

569
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:45.000
<v Speaker 4>like that.

570
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:47.759
<v Speaker 3>So I wouldn't change a lot. And you guys, you

571
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:48.440
<v Speaker 3>guys listen to.

572
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:52.640
<v Speaker 4>Feedback really well as far as you know, adding new

573
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.799
<v Speaker 4>events or you know, you're always improving the tournaments and

574
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:59.680
<v Speaker 4>this and that. So I just I can't really I

575
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:01.799
<v Speaker 4>would change much about it, honestly.

576
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, perfect good, they're gonna turn me out now. But

577
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:07.319
<v Speaker 2>let's talk about the PGT Championship.

578
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

579
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:10.759
<v Speaker 2>You know we've talked about this, you know, via text

580
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:13.519
<v Speaker 2>message and stuff. How we changed the points for change,

581
00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:17.119
<v Speaker 2>how we started this tournament this year with set points

582
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:20.400
<v Speaker 2>instead of set, slotting stack instead of points, leading to

583
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:25.400
<v Speaker 2>stunning stack and obviously disadvantage you slightly. But REGANI, you know,

584
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:28.359
<v Speaker 2>ignore all that. Is it added pressure when you come

585
00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:31.359
<v Speaker 2>in here as the chip leader to say, get through

586
00:30:31.400 --> 00:30:33.319
<v Speaker 2>these fifty entry field and win the whole thing.

587
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:35.519
<v Speaker 3>No, there's no added pressure.

588
00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:37.279
<v Speaker 4>I mean I started to fight more big blinds in

589
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:39.799
<v Speaker 4>the Grand le ten, more big blinds, and I think

590
00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:44.319
<v Speaker 4>Seth Davies fifteen more big blinds than Rocco. I think so,

591
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:48.799
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you see it all the time, right, it's

592
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:52.279
<v Speaker 4>I guess people who don't play a lot, they probably see.

593
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Who's chip leading the tournament.

594
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:57.200
<v Speaker 4>Like I'll see an experienced players like they're playing in

595
00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.119
<v Speaker 4>a tournament with someone and some guy has all the chips,

596
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:01.480
<v Speaker 4>and then later they're like, you busted?

597
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:02.599
<v Speaker 3>What happened? Now?

598
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:05.240
<v Speaker 4>You know, they can't believe that they didn't win the tournament.

599
00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 4>It's like you're just not gonna win the tournament, even

600
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:10.480
<v Speaker 4>when your chip leader with ten left or five left, Like,

601
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:12.839
<v Speaker 4>you don't just win eighty percent of the time, you

602
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:16.119
<v Speaker 4>don't win the majority of the time. So with fifty

603
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:18.799
<v Speaker 4>left and not even a huge chip leader, it's like

604
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:23.319
<v Speaker 4>it's anyone's games. I mean, it's I'm favored, I guess,

605
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:26.960
<v Speaker 4>you know, but it's not like I'm likely to win. Yeah,

606
00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:31.079
<v Speaker 4>So I don't put too much pressure on myself. I

607
00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:32.480
<v Speaker 4>just try to play my best.

608
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:36.160
<v Speaker 2>So you know, this year finished, until the lad Well

609
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:38.480
<v Speaker 2>you side with three hundred and fifty big blinds, do

610
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:41.599
<v Speaker 2>you think maybe that's not enough? Then? As a reward

611
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:44.519
<v Speaker 2>for a season long campaign of playing in, you know,

612
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:46.440
<v Speaker 2>day in, day out, do you think maybe three fifty

613
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>isn't worthy justification of finishing on tip?

614
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:53.039
<v Speaker 4>I mean you get the fifty thousand right for winning

615
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:56.119
<v Speaker 4>the PGT Championship, and then you have the highest equity

616
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.039
<v Speaker 4>in the tournament. Like, that's pretty good. Generally first place

617
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:02.720
<v Speaker 4>is already going to had a great year, So I

618
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:07.359
<v Speaker 4>kind of even though it wasn't advantageous for me this

619
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:11.359
<v Speaker 4>year to start my chips based on PGT points. Instead

620
00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:13.519
<v Speaker 4>it was based on position this year, and I didn't

621
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:15.359
<v Speaker 4>start with as much as it would have last year,

622
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:19.119
<v Speaker 4>I think it's probably better for the PGT in the

623
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:20.880
<v Speaker 4>idea of the free role as giving back to the

624
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 4>people who are in here all the time, grinding put

625
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.480
<v Speaker 4>in in the hours. You probably don't want to focus

626
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:29.119
<v Speaker 4>too much of that on the top guy. I mean

627
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:34.759
<v Speaker 4>just looking at it holistically, trying to be objective about it. Greedily,

628
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:37.839
<v Speaker 4>I could say that it shouldn't be like that, because

629
00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:39.599
<v Speaker 4>if I think I have a higher.

630
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:42.039
<v Speaker 3>Chance of winning the leaderboard a lot, it's.

631
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:45.799
<v Speaker 4>In my best interest, yeah, best interest for it to

632
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:49.599
<v Speaker 4>be based on Although most of the time first doesn't

633
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:51.759
<v Speaker 4>have such a lead as I had a huge, big

634
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:54.799
<v Speaker 4>year it was humongous, So I think the way it

635
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:57.680
<v Speaker 4>was done this year was was was good for.

636
00:32:57.640 --> 00:32:59.759
<v Speaker 2>This PGD Championship. We play the top six, it's very

637
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:03.200
<v Speaker 2>off the prize will go. So first, do you think

638
00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:06.319
<v Speaker 2>this would be better as everyone is in the money

639
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:09.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of tournament where you know, we in a way

640
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:12.599
<v Speaker 2>you you know, being able to be in it is

641
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:14.559
<v Speaker 2>a bit of like a break back. Maybe everyone's got

642
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:16.880
<v Speaker 2>a five km in cash and then at the final

643
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:19.160
<v Speaker 2>table or maybe even the last fourteen you have some

644
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:19.839
<v Speaker 2>pay jumps.

645
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:24.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's interesting. I haven't thought about that. I guess you.

646
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:27.400
<v Speaker 4>It's nice to have a nice, good solid number of

647
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.559
<v Speaker 4>top five hundred because that's bigger than most then a

648
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:32.839
<v Speaker 4>lot of the day, you know the tournament's in here,

649
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:35.920
<v Speaker 4>most are two three hundred for first, So it's nice

650
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:39.319
<v Speaker 4>to have that big number because it is the special

651
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:44.519
<v Speaker 4>culmination event. But yeah, I could see merits for spreading

652
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 4>it out. But then what's first going to be? Yeah,

653
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:53.200
<v Speaker 4>which is still yeah, yeah, yeah, it's still great and

654
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:57.240
<v Speaker 4>then everyone is realizing their equity right away more rather

655
00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:00.000
<v Speaker 4>than the way this is set up, it's pretty high variant,

656
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:04.000
<v Speaker 4>especially because it's very top heavy, so it's a lot

657
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:07.440
<v Speaker 4>of variants, you know, and the pros feel differently about it.

658
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:09.119
<v Speaker 4>But even just playing this file table, this is a

659
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:12.840
<v Speaker 4>different final table than most finel tables because you play

660
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:13.599
<v Speaker 4>to win at more.

661
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:15.159
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean, first is a lot.

662
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:17.480
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's my follow up question, you know, on

663
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:20.480
<v Speaker 2>that on the money Bubble yesterday when were down to

664
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:22.960
<v Speaker 2>do tables. You know you're on the short side. Does

665
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:26.559
<v Speaker 2>it really affect how you play this event? In particular

666
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:29.400
<v Speaker 2>because it's so top heavy even though it's a free

667
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:31.199
<v Speaker 2>roll though, so you haven't put up any money, But

668
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:33.679
<v Speaker 2>does it? Does it change the way you play?

669
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:36.920
<v Speaker 4>So not putting up the money doesn't change anything for me.

670
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:40.199
<v Speaker 4>I just change the way I play because it's so

671
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:43.440
<v Speaker 4>top heavy. Yeah, so like I missed, I should have

672
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:45.719
<v Speaker 4>played this hand that I didn't play, and like you

673
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:48.400
<v Speaker 4>sort of get stuck in your you're just not used

674
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:55.159
<v Speaker 4>to these these payouts. So yeah, I mean it's fun.

675
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:58.639
<v Speaker 4>It's probably better to watch because people are like, this

676
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:02.519
<v Speaker 4>final table was p a little looser than most, and

677
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:05.599
<v Speaker 4>that's because people are playing to win more. So it's

678
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:08.480
<v Speaker 4>good for something different. Yeah, I don't, I don't know

679
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:11.559
<v Speaker 4>what most people prefer. I'm kind of I don't have

680
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:14.559
<v Speaker 4>super strong feelings about I'm kind of just like set

681
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:16.519
<v Speaker 4>it up and good point, Yeah.

682
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:18.320
<v Speaker 3>Play as long as it's not I don't hate it.

683
00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:20.079
<v Speaker 3>You know, I think this is much better than when

684
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:21.960
<v Speaker 3>it was Winner Take All though. I like this, This

685
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:22.840
<v Speaker 3>is better for sure.

686
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Let's look at twenty twenty five seasons around the corner.

687
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:27.480
<v Speaker 2>You were already ditching us to go to try it,

688
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:29.920
<v Speaker 2>and you know, you take, You're taking the money, You're running,

689
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.960
<v Speaker 2>You're running other big boys in the j jube. But

690
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:37.599
<v Speaker 2>a real question is how are you approaching this next season?

691
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Is it just reset, I'm gonna grind, I'm gonna keep playing,

692
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:42.840
<v Speaker 2>or like you've kind of won this award, you've won

693
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.639
<v Speaker 2>the big one. You can like maybe spend some more

694
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:47.840
<v Speaker 2>time with the family. The kids say, at home, what's

695
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:48.840
<v Speaker 2>what's the plan? Do you think?

696
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:49.039
<v Speaker 1>No?

697
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:51.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean I spend a pretty good amount of time

698
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:53.719
<v Speaker 4>with the family at home. It's not like I'm working

699
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:57.000
<v Speaker 4>fifty hours a week again or any you know, anything crazy.

700
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:59.760
<v Speaker 4>I just kind of put my hours in and it's

701
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:01.880
<v Speaker 4>it's intense at times, but then I get.

702
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:05.039
<v Speaker 3>Two weeks off, sometimes three weeks off, like several times.

703
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:08.480
<v Speaker 4>A year, So I just am just coming into play

704
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:11.360
<v Speaker 4>again like last year, and I don't think anything's really changed.

705
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:15.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm just ready to come in and come in and

706
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:19.119
<v Speaker 3>play and play a lot of events. It does hurt

707
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:21.119
<v Speaker 3>to miss the Mixed Game series a little bit, but

708
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:24.400
<v Speaker 3>I've been trying to say, trying to I always say,

709
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:25.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go to the next trait and the

710
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:28.920
<v Speaker 3>next tright, and so I decide I'm going this time

711
00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:31.599
<v Speaker 3>like I'm going to do it and see so. So

712
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:34.320
<v Speaker 3>at least I'm not missing a big No Limit series

713
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:38.639
<v Speaker 3>or the PLO series. Those are my two. I'm better

714
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:41.079
<v Speaker 3>at those games. So I do love the mix series,

715
00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:44.440
<v Speaker 3>but it's I'm just gonna have to miss them this time.

716
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:46.519
<v Speaker 2>You have two kids at home and a wife had

717
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Do they feel about dad playing poker? They do they

718
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:53.079
<v Speaker 2>watch your final tables? Do they? Are they interested in

719
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:55.119
<v Speaker 2>it or they just think it's just a job and

720
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:56.239
<v Speaker 2>generally can Yeah.

721
00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:58.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean my kids think it's cool and I bring

722
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:00.840
<v Speaker 3>home the trophies. They watch it. They probably were watching

723
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:03.880
<v Speaker 3>this one. They don't watch all of them. They watch some.

724
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:07.760
<v Speaker 4>My kids aren't really into poker. They are curious how

725
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:10.360
<v Speaker 4>I did. And you know, if I want a trophy

726
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:13.400
<v Speaker 4>or a bunch of money. But they're they don't really play.

727
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:15.400
<v Speaker 4>I tried to teach them many times, and they just

728
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:17.719
<v Speaker 4>don't want to sit down and learn it, and they

729
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:18.960
<v Speaker 4>don't want to take the time to do it. They

730
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:21.239
<v Speaker 4>don't seem to have the patience for it. So but

731
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.280
<v Speaker 4>my wife is always watching. And then like my family,

732
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:27.599
<v Speaker 4>my sisters, my mom, step dad, they're always watching every

733
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:28.920
<v Speaker 4>event now and everything like that.

734
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:30.880
<v Speaker 3>So which is which is cool? So I always have

735
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:32.119
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people rooting for me.

736
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Awesome, Well, congratulations PGT player, the PGT Championship winner. You

737
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:40.079
<v Speaker 2>get two giant chicks and now you're going to take

738
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:42.119
<v Speaker 2>your money and go to the bad boys of chatting.

739
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:43.280
<v Speaker 2>But it's okay. I'll forgive you.

740
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:44.960
<v Speaker 3>I promise. It's not the passport money man.

741
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:46.079
<v Speaker 2>Take the money.

742
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:46.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, walk up.

743
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:50.320
<v Speaker 2>I did that for reasons. Those guys get it. But congratulations,

744
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:53.639
<v Speaker 2>great season. Hopefully twenty twenty five is just as good.

745
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:55.400
<v Speaker 3>Thanks man, appreciate it.

746
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:01.239
<v Speaker 1>All right. That was tim with Jeremy as one one

747
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:04.679
<v Speaker 1>thing that stood out to me during the interview when

748
00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:09.199
<v Speaker 1>you know you asked him about being like a favorite

749
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:12.159
<v Speaker 1>to win or be in contention Player the Year just

750
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:15.000
<v Speaker 1>based on like everything that he plays. He didn't mention Nick.

751
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:17.199
<v Speaker 2>He didn't know.

752
00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:20.519
<v Speaker 1>I just thought that he would. That would be fresh

753
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:23.679
<v Speaker 1>in mine because I mean it's obviously like like Jeremy said,

754
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:26.800
<v Speaker 1>it's it's Daniel, it's Jim Callapy, and then I would

755
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:28.079
<v Speaker 1>say Nick Shulman's the other one.

756
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:33.159
<v Speaker 2>Nick Schulman's probably yeah, definitely fourth. You know, you could

757
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:37.159
<v Speaker 2>probably maybe even put a John Reord in there, Dylan Weisman.

758
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:40.480
<v Speaker 1>John Ordan won't play mixed. Nick would play mixed.

759
00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Riordan has played mix, though, depending on what the mix is.

760
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not sure John Riordan can spell Horse.

761
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:52.039
<v Speaker 2>Okay, wow, King King, Johnny had Day, you talk like that.

762
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen that guy play anything other than Nolan

763
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:56.639
<v Speaker 1>hold Him and Pioelo. So I don't know what you

764
00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>want me to check.

765
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:01.599
<v Speaker 2>Right now, but yeah, Dylan, this one's definitely up there nowadays,

766
00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:05.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, being out of play everything as well.

767
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:09.159
<v Speaker 1>No, for sure, but yeah, I thought, obviously Jeremy is

768
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:14.400
<v Speaker 1>an extremely deserving winner. It's great that the player of

769
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:16.679
<v Speaker 1>the Year ended up coming out on top. You know,

770
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:19.800
<v Speaker 1>for anyone who's played fantasy football out there or probably

771
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:22.440
<v Speaker 1>anything fantasy sports, you know, you can often be the

772
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:24.719
<v Speaker 1>best team in the regular season and then you just,

773
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:26.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, lose in the first or second round of

774
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:27.719
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs and you're just pissed.

775
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Right March eighth, twenty twenty four, John Reordan fourth place,

776
00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:37.679
<v Speaker 2>PGT Mixed Games five K and no limit Douce.

777
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:41.079
<v Speaker 1>There you go, Yeah, buddy, a big bet game, Buddy,

778
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:42.159
<v Speaker 1>a big bet game.

779
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:44.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you can't. Well you have to climorify this.

780
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:45.360
<v Speaker 1>You can't.

781
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:48.440
<v Speaker 2>You guys call it just limit. You just want limit only. Okay.

782
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Listen, there's there's two categories of the games. There's big

783
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:55.079
<v Speaker 1>bet and there's mixed. And the mix is generally always

784
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:58.480
<v Speaker 1>about the limit limit games, and then the big bet

785
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:01.400
<v Speaker 1>is the big bet. Stuff don't really count in big bet.

786
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:04.000
<v Speaker 1>And also, I remember that run and I remember speaking

787
00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:05.920
<v Speaker 1>with him. He had no idea what he was doing. Okay,

788
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:10.280
<v Speaker 1>he was open about that, very open about that. Let

789
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:14.199
<v Speaker 1>me ask you, you're the commission I mean, we'll put

790
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:17.119
<v Speaker 1>a bow on the PGT Million Dollar Championship. Are you

791
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:20.119
<v Speaker 1>happy with the way that it turned out? Do you

792
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:22.840
<v Speaker 1>have anything that you're already cooking up for next year? Like,

793
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.079
<v Speaker 1>what do you what are your thoughts?

794
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:28.280
<v Speaker 2>No? I think it very really really well. It was

795
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:32.360
<v Speaker 2>great to see a very deserving winner, Jeremy taking it down.

796
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:34.159
<v Speaker 2>I think it's kind of cool that, you know, the

797
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:36.920
<v Speaker 2>player of the year also won, you know, the season

798
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:40.639
<v Speaker 2>concluding championship. That's that's kind of awesome. And to go

799
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:46.639
<v Speaker 2>heads up with Nick, another PGT regular is also great.

800
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Season was good. You know, we did did some new stuff,

801
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:54.840
<v Speaker 2>tweaked some old things. I think everyone is pretty happy

802
00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:58.519
<v Speaker 2>with how it went. Always trying to improve to put

803
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:00.559
<v Speaker 2>on the best tour for these players. So you know,

804
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:02.039
<v Speaker 2>that's why I kind of ask Jeremy, you know, what

805
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:04.360
<v Speaker 2>would you what else would you approve? You know, I

806
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:06.280
<v Speaker 2>talk to players all the time about that, how can

807
00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 2>we just get one percent better? Because one percent better

808
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:13.039
<v Speaker 2>is better than not getting better. So we'll tweak this

809
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:17.199
<v Speaker 2>championship next year a couple different ways. And I you know,

810
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:19.800
<v Speaker 2>I tried to get it on last year and I couldn't.

811
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:23.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm pulling to try and get this Bounty series somewhere

812
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:27.679
<v Speaker 2>in our schedule. Definitely thinking about a half and half

813
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:31.440
<v Speaker 2>event or series. We'll see what we can do there.

814
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:34.199
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, first half of the season it's set. You

815
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:38.239
<v Speaker 2>can find everything on PGT dot com Schedule structure sheets.

816
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:41.639
<v Speaker 2>Only thing that's not on there is the Texas Poker Open,

817
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:45.119
<v Speaker 2>which we'll be announcing very soon, and then we'll after that,

818
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:48.239
<v Speaker 2>we'll start figuring out the back half of the season.

819
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:57.519
<v Speaker 1>Do you anticipate that players are excited to chase the

820
00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:00.360
<v Speaker 1>top forty of the leader ward and chase qualification into

821
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:04.639
<v Speaker 1>the PGT Championship. The reason why I'm asking is it

822
00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:07.880
<v Speaker 1>definitely you could definitely feel that the buzz and the

823
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:11.760
<v Speaker 1>excitement around PGT Last Chance, But PGT Last Chance is

824
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:16.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of this independent thing. I'm just wondering if that

825
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:18.840
<v Speaker 1>same sort of buzz you think will carry over it

826
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:22.559
<v Speaker 1>all to the entire season and not just be so

827
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:24.559
<v Speaker 1>focused on that final series.

828
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:28.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's that final series is just just so

829
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:31.519
<v Speaker 2>great with everything that's going on, Like, I don't think

830
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:34.400
<v Speaker 2>we should be expecting the same numbers at the upcoming

831
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:37.239
<v Speaker 2>PGT kickoff. I think we need to be realistic and

832
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:41.000
<v Speaker 2>know that the players were playing Last Chance to try

833
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:44.159
<v Speaker 2>and qualify for the free Roll. There wasn't really any

834
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.920
<v Speaker 2>competing events on come kickoff. You know, everyone's kind of

835
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:51.400
<v Speaker 2>getting back into things. You got Bogada and Seminole kicking

836
00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:54.920
<v Speaker 2>off their series, so players now have a few more options,

837
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:57.559
<v Speaker 2>so I think our numbers will go down, but that

838
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:00.360
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean the season is going to be abut you know,

839
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:02.239
<v Speaker 2>it's going to start slow. Then we'll come back up

840
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:05.000
<v Speaker 2>with the Poco Cup, you know, we have the mixed games,

841
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:08.800
<v Speaker 2>the PLO or the USPO. Like. I still think it's

842
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:12.400
<v Speaker 2>going to be a good season. I'm hoping that all

843
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.199
<v Speaker 2>the work we did during the year, getting new faces

844
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:20.280
<v Speaker 2>in the studio, extensive satellites, we can kind of grow

845
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:23.119
<v Speaker 2>on that. You know, I think the most important thing

846
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:26.239
<v Speaker 2>is to get new people in the studio playing, experiencing

847
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:31.199
<v Speaker 2>what it's like to play a PGT event, experience you know,

848
00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:35.000
<v Speaker 2>the first class aria staff and how they handle the

849
00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:38.320
<v Speaker 2>whole operation of the tournament. And you'll see that we

850
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:41.079
<v Speaker 2>get these people in the door, they have a great experience, win,

851
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:44.039
<v Speaker 2>lose or draw and come back. And I think that's

852
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:47.440
<v Speaker 2>the most important thing for the longevity of what we're

853
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:48.440
<v Speaker 2>trying to do with the PGT.

854
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I hope it carries over, you know, I

855
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:55.039
<v Speaker 1>hope it just not all just bunched up into into

856
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:58.760
<v Speaker 1>last chance and people do you know, try and compete

857
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:02.239
<v Speaker 1>over the course of the entire season, and not just say, hey,

858
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:04.800
<v Speaker 1>why don't I just instead of putting in all that

859
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:07.719
<v Speaker 1>time and effort and bankroll money over the course of

860
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:10.280
<v Speaker 1>an entire season, why don't I just come out for

861
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:12.599
<v Speaker 1>Last Chance and just try and do it that way,

862
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, take my swing at that time. So we'll see.

863
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:19.159
<v Speaker 1>But as you mentioned, it all starts with kickoff coming

864
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:23.159
<v Speaker 1>up in just over a week's time. Four or five

865
00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:26.920
<v Speaker 1>k's one, ten k double points for everything. You seem

866
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:30.119
<v Speaker 1>to be less bullish on the numbers than I am.

867
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I just know first handsome players heading

868
00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:35.400
<v Speaker 2>to Seminal like they're heading to Bogatta now that then

869
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:38.239
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna go to Seminole. We got we got your

870
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:44.199
<v Speaker 2>boy kickoff legend, David Coleman skipping Kickoff to go to Disneyland.

871
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're you're only supposed to go to Disneyland

872
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:47.280
<v Speaker 1>if you win.

873
00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, he I ain't winning anything kickoff. And look, that's

874
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:54.239
<v Speaker 2>if we really think about it. These guys have put in.

875
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:56.880
<v Speaker 2>You know that there was six events during Last Chance

876
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:01.400
<v Speaker 2>long days, a lot on the line, so you know

877
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:04.280
<v Speaker 2>they want to skip the first series of the season

878
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:07.239
<v Speaker 2>and go do something else. So go play someone else

879
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:09.840
<v Speaker 2>that's okay, they'll come back, they know where home is.

880
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:13.119
<v Speaker 2>But it gives you know what, It gives the opportunity

881
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:17.920
<v Speaker 2>to someone else like David Coleman this year to launch

882
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:21.840
<v Speaker 2>themselves up the leaderboard and be in a position to

883
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:26.239
<v Speaker 2>start the year as number one with that double points,

884
00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:29.400
<v Speaker 2>that that extra lead, and maybe that propels them to

885
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:32.599
<v Speaker 2>play full schedules for the entire BGT season.

886
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah we won't. We won't talk about it on this show.

887
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:39.760
<v Speaker 1>But the next one that we'll do in what I'm

888
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:41.920
<v Speaker 1>planning for is a couple of days. We got to

889
00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:43.440
<v Speaker 1>do the same thing that we kind of did last year,

890
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:44.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, like who's going to be the break up

891
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:47.159
<v Speaker 1>player of the year whatever. I mean, not to too

892
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:49.719
<v Speaker 1>my own horn, but I did pick David Coleman, and

893
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:51.440
<v Speaker 1>then he just went out and kick off and just

894
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:54.159
<v Speaker 1>had four cash's one two events, just absolutely crushed the

895
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:56.440
<v Speaker 1>damn thing. So I'm going to try and find the

896
00:45:56.440 --> 00:46:00.199
<v Speaker 1>next David Coleman. Okay. I also think that we need

897
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:04.679
<v Speaker 1>to install PGT. This is my suggestion, not that you

898
00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:06.760
<v Speaker 1>asked me like you asked Jeremy, but but I'm just

899
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:11.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna inject it right here. We need to install awards

900
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:15.639
<v Speaker 1>for the PGT and and I want them to be

901
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:20.079
<v Speaker 1>like player voted awards, much like the NBA does it,

902
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:22.639
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like like I want like best short best

903
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:25.519
<v Speaker 1>short stack player. I mean, it's for sure going to

904
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:27.760
<v Speaker 1>be Sean Winter, but like, no, I know, but it'd

905
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:29.800
<v Speaker 1>be cool. It'd be cool to like you just will

906
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:32.039
<v Speaker 1>hand out like a little thing where people can just

907
00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:34.199
<v Speaker 1>check names or write names or whatever. We'll pass it around,

908
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:35.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, best, this, best that, whatever.

909
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:39.559
<v Speaker 2>Like it. It'd be what's what's just put.

910
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Them out there as some content at the end we

911
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:43.119
<v Speaker 1>can talk about on the podcast like whatever. You know,

912
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:45.199
<v Speaker 1>like the gp I used to have that, you know,

913
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:48.000
<v Speaker 1>like the toughest player or whatever, and Steven Shouldwicks just

914
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:51.159
<v Speaker 1>win it every year, like what are the who's the

915
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:55.239
<v Speaker 1>toughest player in the PGT group? You know, like let's

916
00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that was.

917
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:00.400
<v Speaker 2>No because I was chatting with David Coleman about the

918
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:04.039
<v Speaker 2>upcoming Global Parker Awards and I said that you're going,

919
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:06.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, you have to make a speech, et cetera,

920
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:08.119
<v Speaker 2>because no, I'm not. I'm not I'm going to try

921
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:11.039
<v Speaker 2>it or something. So okay, because I don't really like

922
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:13.039
<v Speaker 2>those awards kind of shows, and I go, well, you

923
00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:14.800
<v Speaker 2>better like them because I'm going to do one for

924
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:18.199
<v Speaker 2>us next year. Kind of joking, but kind of serious

925
00:47:18.760 --> 00:47:21.159
<v Speaker 2>because I keep thinking about, like, you know, I look

926
00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:24.440
<v Speaker 2>at our all time stats and talking about you know,

927
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:26.440
<v Speaker 2>so much talk about WSP Hall of Fame. But I

928
00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:28.559
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, we could have a PGT Hall of

929
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:31.159
<v Speaker 2>Fame at one point, just like it should be like

930
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:34.119
<v Speaker 2>a play in. You know, once you hit certain criteria,

931
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:37.119
<v Speaker 2>you're in. It's not a nomination thing. But like I

932
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:39.119
<v Speaker 2>was thinking, it'd be cool to have, you know, before

933
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:41.760
<v Speaker 2>the championship. You have the nice you have, like I

934
00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:45.199
<v Speaker 2>said at dinner with like the forty that make it right,

935
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:48.280
<v Speaker 2>and you could I was actually thinking exactly what you

936
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:52.559
<v Speaker 2>just mentioned about awards and like presenting some in season awards,

937
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:57.159
<v Speaker 2>presenting some like five year period awards, et cetera. Kind

938
00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:00.639
<v Speaker 2>of really put that put some effort into like showcasing

939
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:03.039
<v Speaker 2>our players and highlighting out players because I think they do.

940
00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:05.880
<v Speaker 2>They do enjoy that. We heard them saying that during

941
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:08.440
<v Speaker 2>the championship. You know, we had like players playing in the

942
00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:10.920
<v Speaker 2>championship for the first time. I was like, oh, this

943
00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:13.559
<v Speaker 2>is awesome, this is so good, Like great to be

944
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:15.119
<v Speaker 2>a part of this, Like, you know, we're giving out

945
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:16.280
<v Speaker 2>this special I would.

946
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:17.599
<v Speaker 1>Say that too, if you're giving me a million dollar

947
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:18.039
<v Speaker 1>free roll.

948
00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, letting you know they're bothering me up, got it,

949
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:23.440
<v Speaker 2>got it.

950
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're making sure the million comes back next year. Okay,

951
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:27.840
<v Speaker 1>that's what they're doing.

952
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:29.599
<v Speaker 2>A million will always be there if it was up

953
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:29.840
<v Speaker 2>to me.

954
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, I thought the PGC Championship was a

955
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:37.960
<v Speaker 1>great event. I can't wait to run it back next year.

956
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:40.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm very much looking forward to it once again.

957
00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:45.760
<v Speaker 1>That sweat at the end, you know, right around I

958
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:48.880
<v Speaker 1>mean it started a little bit earlier than the Last

959
00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Chance I mean Last Chances, when it really all like

960
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.039
<v Speaker 1>was headlining stuff, you know, coupled with the fact that

961
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:57.440
<v Speaker 1>there really wasn't anything else going on in poker, which

962
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:00.559
<v Speaker 1>which helps. But you know, just before that, you know,

963
00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:03.840
<v Speaker 1>down in Texas, you know, just just starting to get

964
00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:08.599
<v Speaker 1>the the the buzz out there of the people who

965
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:11.280
<v Speaker 1>are trying to chase those additional cashes, like all that

966
00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:11.880
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing.

967
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:12.239
<v Speaker 3>You know.

968
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:16.360
<v Speaker 1>So so yeah, I think personally, I would like to

969
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:20.119
<v Speaker 1>make it our biggest goal is to everyone comes that

970
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:21.719
<v Speaker 1>freaking qualifies.

971
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:24.559
<v Speaker 2>Like like that's what that's the one thing with changing.

972
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:27.039
<v Speaker 1>I know, but it's it's like, but I want them

973
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:30.440
<v Speaker 1>to all like come and you know whatever, Like I

974
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:34.159
<v Speaker 1>want them to be there when phil Ivy qualifies, Like, Well.

975
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:36.280
<v Speaker 2>There's one way to do that, and that's to change

976
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:39.000
<v Speaker 2>the payoffs where it's like everyone is cash is for

977
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:42.000
<v Speaker 2>five k up until the final table, like I discussed

978
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:46.559
<v Speaker 2>for Jeremy. That's that's probably the best way to people

979
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:50.760
<v Speaker 2>so people can realize some avas and equities straight away. Yeah.

980
00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:53.480
<v Speaker 1>The other the other I was thinking about the three

981
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:56.639
<v Speaker 1>cash requirement. I was wondering if that should be higher.

982
00:49:57.519 --> 00:49:59.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I don't think I'm not because you and

983
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:00.039
<v Speaker 2>I have to.

984
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Baited this before, like this exact thing when we when

985
00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:05.639
<v Speaker 1>we were putting it in, you and I were like debating,

986
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:07.599
<v Speaker 1>and I can't even remember what side we were on.

987
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:10.559
<v Speaker 2>I think it's I think this proof that three is

988
00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:15.239
<v Speaker 2>a good number. We had obviously Jonathan Tomorrow fight everything

989
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:18.159
<v Speaker 2>in Texas Payler round up, fight everything it last chance

990
00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:21.679
<v Speaker 2>to get one cash. You got it, Matthew Lambresh fight

991
00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:26.119
<v Speaker 2>everything in Pokemons has missed out, Like there's some value

992
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:28.280
<v Speaker 2>to the three cash now if you go to four

993
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:31.079
<v Speaker 2>or five it's much harder for some guy that's you know,

994
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:33.400
<v Speaker 2>bingked one thing or two things at the World Series

995
00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:36.360
<v Speaker 2>to chase three more cases throughout the especially if they're

996
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:39.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, businessman or you know they But I'm getting

997
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:42.119
<v Speaker 2>it is that I want to make it harder.

998
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:45.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, no, it's not. It's not necessarily that I

999
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:49.360
<v Speaker 1>want to make it harder. I want to cater it

1000
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:53.280
<v Speaker 1>more to the people that play the highest volume of

1001
00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:57.599
<v Speaker 1>our owned and operaated events in the studio. M That's

1002
00:50:57.639 --> 00:51:01.480
<v Speaker 1>what I want to do. Like if you have like

1003
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:04.679
<v Speaker 1>five cashes at the Doubs a p and they're they're great,

1004
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and they're certainly noteworthy, and they get you a lot

1005
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:08.480
<v Speaker 1>of points and you want a lot of money. And

1006
00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:10.679
<v Speaker 1>it's not that that stuff is not extremely hard, because

1007
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:15.480
<v Speaker 1>it is. But that's like done through a partnership more

1008
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:17.400
<v Speaker 1>so than it is our own and operated events. You

1009
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:18.960
<v Speaker 1>don't even really have it have to step foot in

1010
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:23.039
<v Speaker 1>the studio. So, like, you know, I would rather somebody

1011
00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:25.280
<v Speaker 1>and maybe I'll change my mind if I think a

1012
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:26.880
<v Speaker 1>little bit further this because I'm kind of just thinking

1013
00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:28.280
<v Speaker 1>off the top of my head, but like just somebody

1014
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:30.840
<v Speaker 1>who's like literally always at the studio playing all of

1015
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:36.800
<v Speaker 1>our events like that seems where we should be channeling things.

1016
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it's worth, it's worth definitely discussing. And we

1017
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:44.920
<v Speaker 2>have a week now to figure out any rule tweaks

1018
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:49.840
<v Speaker 2>or changes before before PG take kickoff. Let's go.

1019
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready, I'm ready for kickoff.

1020
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not I need this week off.

1021
00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I wish I wish you were running satellites for kickoff.

1022
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:03.199
<v Speaker 2>You've got to talk to the area boys about that.

1023
00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:06.519
<v Speaker 2>One would yeah, definitely wouldn't make sense.

1024
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would be in there for sure, especially with

1025
00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:11.760
<v Speaker 1>if you ultimately get in then it's double point to

1026
00:52:11.880 --> 00:52:16.199
<v Speaker 1>kind of catapults the whole thing, like yep, yeah, that'd

1027
00:52:16.239 --> 00:52:18.800
<v Speaker 1>be legit. So kickoff is gonna be fun. Coming up

1028
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:21.400
<v Speaker 1>in just over a week's time. January twentieth is the

1029
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:24.519
<v Speaker 1>first event. The plan is to stream the final tables

1030
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:27.159
<v Speaker 1>January twenty first through twenty fifth. The plan is for

1031
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:31.639
<v Speaker 1>REMC Rinkama and myself to be in the booth. So yeah,

1032
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:34.119
<v Speaker 1>good stuff. And then right after that, it's like what

1033
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:38.400
<v Speaker 1>two or three weeks before OPRA groke up, yep, and

1034
00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:41.599
<v Speaker 1>we're freaking off man, It's like right back the running.

1035
00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:45.440
<v Speaker 1>December is you know, in terms of our work, stuff

1036
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:48.920
<v Speaker 1>is generally pretty low key, you know, and we obviously

1037
00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:52.719
<v Speaker 1>do our day to day, but without events running a lot,

1038
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:55.960
<v Speaker 1>without shows being filmed, et cetera, it's it's a little

1039
00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:59.039
<v Speaker 1>bit uh or it's a lot less of a lift.

1040
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:01.039
<v Speaker 1>That's one reason why Tim and I are out there

1041
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:04.079
<v Speaker 1>playing a lot more in December. But then once January hits, man,

1042
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:09.440
<v Speaker 1>it's go, go go. So here's to a successful PGT season.

1043
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:12.119
<v Speaker 1>I think I can confidently say that it was successful,

1044
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:15.920
<v Speaker 1>and I'm looking forward to another successful one, and hopefully

1045
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:18.000
<v Speaker 1>we can do it bigger and better than we did

1046
00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:21.519
<v Speaker 1>this last year. That's the goal. So let's see if

1047
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:24.719
<v Speaker 1>we can make it happen. The pods won't stop, of course,

1048
00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:30.639
<v Speaker 1>let's go. I you said to our buddy Matt's average

1049
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:32.719
<v Speaker 1>that we're going to do more pods this year than

1050
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:36.519
<v Speaker 1>we did last year. You said that, yes, okay, now

1051
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:37.199
<v Speaker 1>we got to do it.

1052
00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:41.119
<v Speaker 2>I just think that I'm going to kind of force

1053
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:43.960
<v Speaker 2>you to, you know, do a few more. We go

1054
00:53:44.039 --> 00:53:46.599
<v Speaker 2>through some lulls outside of the World Series, so.

1055
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:47.719
<v Speaker 1>You don't need to force me.

1056
00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:50.800
<v Speaker 2>No, I need to force you. You get lazy sometimes

1057
00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:52.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't get late. I think we'll do it. I

1058
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:54.360
<v Speaker 2>think we I think we're already on a good look,

1059
00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:56.360
<v Speaker 2>We're already know this is our fourth part of the year.

1060
00:53:57.079 --> 00:53:58.639
<v Speaker 2>We're already off to a great start.

1061
00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:00.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, wait, who's last.

1062
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Our fourth problem?

1063
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Yours are mine? You know, you can't take one off.

1064
00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:10.400
<v Speaker 1>And then we're like, yeah, I was there. No, you

1065
00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:12.599
<v Speaker 1>weren't there. You weren't even sending an interview in.

1066
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:13.360
<v Speaker 2>You didn't do it.

1067
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:16.400
<v Speaker 1>You didn't do anything. You didn't do a damn thing

1068
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:19.440
<v Speaker 1>for that podcast. I did it. I woke my ass

1069
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.320
<v Speaker 1>up at five am. I went downstairs, I recorded the

1070
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:28.119
<v Speaker 1>damn podcast. And you didn't do anything. You were sleeping, sleepy.

1071
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Our team has done four this Yeah, it took us

1072
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:35.960
<v Speaker 2>till February fourteenth last year to get to four. The

1073
00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:39.320
<v Speaker 2>year before that, it took us about the same time.

1074
00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:43.039
<v Speaker 2>But I just feel like we're going to be more

1075
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:45.920
<v Speaker 2>consistent outside of the World Series. We're very good during

1076
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:48.599
<v Speaker 2>the World Series. Outside of the World Series, we need

1077
00:54:48.599 --> 00:54:50.519
<v Speaker 2>to be better and it's a bit of a challenge

1078
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:54.960
<v Speaker 2>to ourselves to just keep the news flowing for the

1079
00:54:55.000 --> 00:55:00.000
<v Speaker 2>listeners out there. And yeah, maybe we'll crack one hundred

1080
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:02.360
<v Speaker 2>this year.

1081
00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:06.559
<v Speaker 1>We'll we will one thousand percent crack one hundred.

1082
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Geez okay, I just said, mo, you've just increases.

1083
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:17.800
<v Speaker 1>By gonna happen. Happen for sure. All right, I got

1084
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:18.559
<v Speaker 1>nothing else talk.

1085
00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:21.400
<v Speaker 2>About, do you I'm ready to eat some pizza?

1086
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:23.559
<v Speaker 1>Ready to Did you order pizza?

1087
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:26.639
<v Speaker 2>No? My wife put a pizza in the oven. Little

1088
00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:28.880
<v Speaker 2>like you know those ones you buy from like Costco,

1089
00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:31.639
<v Speaker 2>frozen barbecue chicken. I think it is.

1090
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Those are the worst pizzas in the universe.

1091
00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Barbecue chicken will just box barbecue.

1092
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Chicken sounds horrible, yes, but also frozen pizzas horrible.

1093
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:41.000
<v Speaker 2>It's fine. I found one that I like.

1094
00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:43.880
<v Speaker 1>They're not good first of all, and they're also horrible

1095
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:45.639
<v Speaker 1>for you because they got to put all this ship

1096
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:49.199
<v Speaker 1>in them to like allow them to stay for Just

1097
00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:52.639
<v Speaker 1>go out, get some nice, freshly made pizza and that's

1098
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:55.440
<v Speaker 1>the way to go. All right, that's gonna do it

1099
00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:57.320
<v Speaker 1>for us. We got nothing else to talk about, but

1100
00:55:57.559 --> 00:55:59.559
<v Speaker 1>we'll be back in a few days. I want to

1101
00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:03.639
<v Speaker 1>do like, like you know, predictions for the PGT season,

1102
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:07.559
<v Speaker 1>maybe talk about some stuff general, just on the poker year,

1103
00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:11.679
<v Speaker 1>find the new David Coleman. Yes, we'll do that. You know,

1104
00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:13.599
<v Speaker 1>so we'll hit on all of that sort of stuff.

1105
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:16.039
<v Speaker 1>It's it's a little bit of a weird time because

1106
00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:20.679
<v Speaker 1>in my head our year is ending now, even though

1107
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:23.559
<v Speaker 1>we were already you know, eleven days into the new year.

1108
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:25.840
<v Speaker 1>So it's just it's just how we set it up

1109
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:29.239
<v Speaker 1>on the calendar. But yeah, no big deal. So we'll

1110
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:31.480
<v Speaker 1>be getting to that stuff. So stay tuned to that.

1111
00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I haven't asked in a while. And if you're listening now,

1112
00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you greatly, But leave a review. I don't

1113
00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:40.880
<v Speaker 1>think we've had many reviews on the podcast. We got it.

1114
00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:42.440
<v Speaker 1>That's one thing we definitely have to do. We got

1115
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:46.159
<v Speaker 1>to bring back the review contest sort of thing that

1116
00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:48.400
<v Speaker 1>we've been doing many are for for a long time now.

1117
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:50.360
<v Speaker 1>So let's let's like ramp that back up and get

1118
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:53.280
<v Speaker 1>that back going. I'm sure we have some merchant whatever

1119
00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:56.039
<v Speaker 1>that we can give out. So all right, guys, that's

1120
00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:58.159
<v Speaker 1>gonna do it for us. My name is Donnie Peters.

1121
00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:00.599
<v Speaker 1>His name is Tim Duckworth, and we'll talk to you

1122
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:01.800
<v Speaker 1>guys next time.

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00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Say yeah, brads night. Jenny Express