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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters, and I

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don't need to fly solo on this episode because my

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guy Tim Duckworth is here left me hanging on the

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last one. Sure, explain yourself for the people. Go ahead,

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explain yourself.

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Speaker 2: First of all, what time did you record?

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Speaker 1: Like five point fifteen in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well we did a finish the two am, and

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I have a message from you saying I'm tapping out,

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I'm going to bed. So I was like, all right,

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I'm going to that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not waiting up when I have no idea when

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that thing's going to end.

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Speaker 2: True. And then obviously dehm at two am didn't get

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much sleep. The soccer game this morning at seven am,

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so I said, do a solo. You got this here?

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Speaker 1: Big boy didn't even give me an interview. It was

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just unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you don't understand how, Like all the players were

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upset last night because it was so late and we

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couldn't change They didn't want to change the start time today,

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so they were they were grumpy everyone I was. I

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was grumpy too.

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Speaker 1: Why would you change the start time.

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Speaker 2: Because they couldn't. I don't know, oh, because they could.

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It's already, it's already in the works for next year,

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changing the structure a little bit. For this event.

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Speaker 1: You're going to go back to giving people the adequate

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number of big blinds that they deserve, the points that

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they earn.

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Speaker 2: No, because you were here in the interview that I

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did without champion.

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Speaker 1: I listened to the interview already. We'll play the interview that's.

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Speaker 2: Very rusty before you say something very rusty.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let we got we've like way buried the lead. Okay,

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like wait wait, wait wait, Jeremy Osmas. Not only did

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mister Osmas win PGT Player of the Year, but Jeremy

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Osmas is the PGT Million Dollar Championship winner. If you

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guys can believe it, the guy is a god.

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Speaker 2: He is a goat.

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Speaker 1: And if I recall, somebody on this podcast drafted mister

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Yeah you were out there Beacon on Twitter. I saw you.

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But who picked the winner? That's right. Speaking of getting lucky,

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mister Osma's got lucky in a very very big hand

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that we will review. We'll talk about the championship. Jeremy

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Osmas did come out on top as I mentioned, you know,

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I thought it would be very fitting if Ozmas came

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out on top of the championship event having been the

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player of the year. Of course, that's never really a given.

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It's probably not the favorite overall, just because so much

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can happen in a single poker tournament. But Jeremy Osmus delivered.

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The guy absolutely dominated across the entire PGT season, So

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it is quite fitting that we wrap up the twenty

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twenty four Poker Grow Tour season with a victory from Ozmas,

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and he took home five hundred thousand dollars in prize money.

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So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about what happened

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on the final day of the event. As I previewed

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by myself, solo pod was so difficult.

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Speaker 2: We loved it, just talking NonStop.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved it.

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Speaker 1: Six players came into the final day and we'll talk

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about all of them and how they fared overall. Dode,

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you tell you guys once again, I've been telling you NonStop.

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I gotta tell you again. I right before we hopped

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on the air, I just closed a table on Play

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Poker Grow. I had like three hundred and fifty three

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million in ships one guy, Well, on the biggest table,

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you start with one hundred millions, not like that much,

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but it is great to say one guy got so

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lucky against me, so lucky against me. We got it

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all in on a ten seven six or ten seven

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four rainbow flop. I had ace ten, he had seven

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to six, and he hit a seven on the river

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to stack me. But then I went ahead and got

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it all back, all of the back baby from said

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player and a few other players as well. So hey,

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if you guys want to get out there and battle

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against me, you can also battle against Tim who I

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folded aces to yesterday correctly. So folded aces, you had

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a full house.

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Speaker 2: I timed out. I flopped the full house.

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Speaker 1: You timed up, but then you came back.

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Speaker 2: No I know it, but I was okay. So I

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was trying to put a bed in of like some

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really silly number, and I want to let me bet that number.

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So then I just had to push the clicker up

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to like sixteen million or whatever, and then I timed out.

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You bet. I had to check raise. I can't if

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you're bearing that real lead, which is which is the

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bad bait you put on me? Krim, I'll tell you that.

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I'll tell you the hand. I made a three blinds

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on the button three million ace ten off suit. You

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three bet me to eight million from the small one

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with aces. I called or one hundred million.

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Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I

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had aces. Yeah, and this is this is a bad

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beat for you. And I had aces because exactly this

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is how Tim thinks about poker. He did not have

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the best hand at any point in this hand. He

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got bad beat.

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Speaker 2: You have never played a hand so absurd. You three

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bets of eight million. I call flop comes eight four

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three rainbow check check turner is an ace. You bet

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three million, so like one millionth of the pot. I

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call rivers are ten, You shove eighty nine million. I've

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got aces up. I mean, I'm never folding to you.

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So I call and you have top set.

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Speaker 1: Just what a cooler cool Listen, this is This is

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a long way to say that if you guys are

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looking for poker that is fun and free, come join

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and I in the play poker gro streets. It's authentic

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poker action.

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Speaker 2: It's me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can get in there and do different things,

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try out different plays. Whatever you are playing against real

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players like Tim and myself, we were both on there.

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He's tram stop, I'm Brasco. So hop right into a

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ring game, get into the tournaments that they have. Whatever

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you want to do, it's on play poker gro. Every

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hand on play poker gro feels like the real deal.

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You guys can check it out on web iOS and android.

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Just head on over to play PokerGO dot com. All right,

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let's get back to the main topic at hand, which

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is the PGT Million Dollar Championship. So as I went

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over yesterday again completely by myself, you know, just had

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to carry the whole load. You had forty four players

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that began in the PGT Million Dollar Championship. They were

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whittled down to six. You had this wild double bubble

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situation with not only two players, but the players involved

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in this double bubble situation were married Alex Foxen and

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Christen fox so just wild stuff. They were playing four

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and four they ended up busting on I guess the

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same hand, although albeit on different tables. So they got

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everyone into the money. And then today you had Dylan Wiseman,

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who had the chip lead, came into the day ahead

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of a big HUNI Chris Huniken, Calvin Anderson, Jim Collapy,

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Nick Shulman, and Jeremy Osmas. Of course, as we mentioned

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off the top of the show, Jeremy Osmos ultimately went

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on to win the whole thing. Everyone that was left

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that came into today was guaranteed forty thousand dollars. They

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were playing for a five hundred thousand dollars first place prize,

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the million dollars that is put up for this free

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role on behalf of Poker Grow On the Poker Grow Tour.

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It's a little bit top heavy in this format, but

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we like it that way. First place under k, second

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place two hundred k, then one twenty eighty sixty and forty.

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It was Jim Collopy who busted first. I got a

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little bit of a late start to watching the stream.

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I came in when they were five handed, almost running

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around with my kids this morning. But I was surprised

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to see Callipy go out early. He was sporting the

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I guess what I would call the now Jim Calliby

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famous PGT beanie that he always wears. He also had.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, hold up always wears. I gave it to

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him like two days ago.

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Speaker 1: No, he has this thing on a lot.

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Speaker 2: I feel like beat. Okay, I gave it to him.

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He guys, oh, I'll wear that, didn't have one you

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normally wears another beanie.

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Speaker 1: He had his Poker Masters purple jacket on. Yes, nice,

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and then he had okay, this is definitely Jim Calliby

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famous his can of liquid death water love. He always

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has that.

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Speaker 2: Do you like liquid death?

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Speaker 1: I've had it once and it tasted like water in

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a can.

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Speaker 2: So I don't really know what it was like.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not that I don't like it, It

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just I don't like what's so special about it was

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kind of my my thing. What's interesting to me is that,

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I mean early on, nothing really crazy happened right away,

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right like, not that I could tell when I was

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skimming through the updates and like getting myself caught up

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because cal it Be came into the day. What third

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or fourth in chips? Yeah, so I mean obviously Dylan

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Wiseman had the big chip lead. Yes, but yeah, and

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then all of a sudden, it's just it's Collop, He's

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got sevens, it's Shulman's got ace King. The money goes in.

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Shulman flops a king and that's that for Jim Callipy.

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But it kind of just seemed like out of nowhere

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that it that it happened early on, you know, I

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guess I was. I don't know, I guess I'm a

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little bit surprised always when uh, you know, the player

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who's the short stack doesn't go out first, but whatever

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call it. He takes on forty k for that, which

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good score for him. And then you had Chris Hunikin

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going out after that in fifth place, so he he

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lost I think a huge hand six versus Queens. And

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this this was a spot where if anyone has well,

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if anyone's ever played with Calvin Anderson, you'll you'll know

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exactly what I'm talking about. Over anyone's ever watched Calvin

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Anderson play, I mean, he's he's out there and he's

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and what I mean by that is he's in almost

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every single hand. I mean he plays like eighty percent

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of hands. It's absolutely wild. If you're at his table,

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it's a giant pain in the ass to play with

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him because he can have just about anything at any

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given moment, and he's also very good. He's aggressive, so

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he can you know, certainly get creative and think outside

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the box. So overall it's just a giant thorn in

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your side constantly playing against Anderson, which I think ultimately

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led to this Chris Unichan bust out, which was he

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opens on the button, Dylan Wiseman calls from the small blind,

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and then Calvin Andersen puts in a three bet from

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the big blind. Looks like the perfect squeeze spot, right,

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he can be doing this with a lot of different hands. Well,

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he's just got queens hunigans decides to rip in the

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pocket sixes. Wiseman obviously gets out of the way, and

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Anderson calls, what the Queen's the Queen's hold and that well, sorry,

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that wasn't that for Heunickan because he was left with

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fifteen k when the big blind was fifty k. He

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ends up doubling up twice, I believe, and then and

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then gets knocked out shortly after that. So he takes

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on fifth place for sixty thousand dollars. Then they get

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down to four handed play, of course, and all of

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a sudden it's like Jeremy Osmas starts chipping up, but

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then Calvin Anderson kind of like puts the smack down

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a little bit, and he continues to chip up again,

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and it's starting to look like it's Calvin Anderson's tournament

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to lose. He's just gonna kind of run away with

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this thing. And then Dylan Wiseman, who started the final

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table as the chip leader, he ultimately goes out in

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fourth place, and he got unlucky to do so. He

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opened with pocket s Evans, Calvin Anderson three bat with

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ACE five off. Wiseman put it all in with those sevens,

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Anderson called it off. Anderson flopped one five and turned

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another five and obviously held from there to knock out

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Wiseman in fourth place. What's interesting about this spot is

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that on day one. At the end of day one,

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Wiseman busted Alex Foxen in eighth place with ACE five

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versus Ace King getting lucky hitting a five. He hit

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a five on the turn.

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Speaker 2: You're missing the one hand. I just wanted to go

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back back a little bit with two hands for Keith.

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For Wiseman, he had one blind on blind battle with

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Calvin Ace ten versus ten to nine nine high flop

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tailment to some chips went in there, so he last

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had one to Calvin.

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Speaker 1: That one could have been worse though on the river

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because a four flush or sorry a four straight was

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on board if somebody had either seven or eight. So

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the river ended up going check check. But it could

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have been a lot worse for Wiseman had the river

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not not coming but like a four liner out there.

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So there was that one, but yeah, that was that

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was bad for for Dylan for sure.

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Speaker 2: And then there was the big one against Osmas without

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favorite hand. Osmas had the King Queen versus the Ace

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Queen of Wiseman.

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Speaker 1: They get it all the way. Yeah, that one King

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on the River.

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Speaker 2: King on the River, the first three outa that Jeremy

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is going to hit at this final table.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this one obviously kept Jeremy and the

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tournament because he was all in. It was Dylan Wiseman

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raising two or from the cut off seat, Jeremy Osmas

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moved all in from the small blind with King Queen suited.

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I mean, this is a pretty understandable place so far.

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Wiseman calls he's got a dominating East Queen. It's all

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the way queen clean until the river six six four

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nine boom, cowboy King on the River, And that was

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a huge double up for Jeremie Osmas I was in

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the chat. Everyone was like, this guy, not only is

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he really good at poker, not only is he really

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good looking, he's lucky as all hell. So so so

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there was that, and then and then after that is

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when shortly thereafter is when Wisman ended up busting. I

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think he lost right around about half a stack or

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so when he doubled up Ozma, so was still in it,

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you know, not as short as when Hewniken, you know,

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lost that that huge hand to really cripple him, but

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you know, still wasn't able to come back from it

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at all. And then the hand of the tournament arguably,

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I mean, this is in contention for hand of the

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year and it's only January eleventh, like that, this should

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be in contention all the way till the end. And

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it was for sure the hand of the PGT season.

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It was this hand is out of control. So they

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are playing three handed. Calvin Anderson has a sizeable chip lead,

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although Jeremy Osmos has started to work his way up

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and really cut into that lead. And then Nick Schulman

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had around I don't know seventeen or eighteen big lines

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in third place. So they play this hand where Calvin

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Anderson limps in from the small blind and Jeremy Osmas

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checks his option in the big blind. I watched this

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hand as it happened on stream, so I knew what

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they had. And Anderson had ten nine off. Ozmas has

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jack nine off, so Ozma's in a pretty good spot here,

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dominating the flop comes ten nine six with two diamonds,

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the ten of diamonds and the six of diamonds, so

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top two pair four Anderson, and then middle pair with

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that nine for Ozmas. He's also got the jack of

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diamonds in his hand, which is important to note here

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because it does provide some back door outs as well.

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Anderson did have the nine of diamonds in his hand.

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Both players check, and the turn is the nine of clubs,

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So here we go. Trips for Osmas, who's in position

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against Anderson, who has a full house nines over tens.

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Starts off with Anderson checking. Ozma bets one hundred thousand.

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At the time the blinds were forty thousand and eight thousand.

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Osmas comes with one hundred thousand. Instead of slow playing this,

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Anderson just decides to fast play it right away, comes

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back with a check RaSE to three seventy five. Ozmas

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fires right back. I mean he took some time, but

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fired back eight hundred thousand from Ozmas, and then Anderson

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clicks it up to one point three to five million,

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and it's like, what the hell just transpired? This was

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limped pre check down the flop, and now all of

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a sudden, these guys are going bonkers on the turn.

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What the hell is happening? Obviously you're watching this in

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real time and you can see the whole cards on

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the stream and you're just like, oh my, like, oh

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my god, this is crazy. Course, Ozmas has way too

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much of a hand on the turn with trip nine,

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so he can never fold, especially against Cal, so he

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calls the River's the jack of clubs. I mean hello.

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With the action on the turn, Cal's probably thinking like,

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I mean, maybe he has seven to eight here, maybe

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he's got sixes full, but like six is full, maybe

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not really fits in there because Ozma's checked back pre

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but he's like he's got to have at least nine, right,

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I mean, he doesn't have tens because Cal feels good

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that he doesn't have tens because he didn't raise pretty

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Ozma's so he's probably thinking seven, eight, nine to six

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maybe to some degree pocket sixes is in there. Then

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the River's the Jack of clubs. I mean, just incredible stuff.

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The pot's like at this point, what like two point

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eight million or something ridiculous. And Anderson comes with a

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super small bat three ninety. Ozmas moves all in. Well,

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Ozma's did the all but one chip left, everything but

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one five thousand chip behind. Anderson announces that he's all in.

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Ozma's obviously quickly calls and I've never seen cal react

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really at all. And he reacted. He kind of like

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shot out of his chair. He couldn't believe it, like

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it was just it was absolutely sickening on his behalf.

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And then if you're you know, in camp Ozmas, I mean,

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what a freaking river card. Seriously, Ozmas ends up doubling

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up to over five point eight million, Calvin Anderson takes

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a big tumble down the leaderboard to one point seventy

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three million, So just absolutely absolutely wild stuff. And I mean,

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I know, me running through the hand the hand history

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here on the podcast, it can probably give you some

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sort of idea, but you got you just got to

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watch it. I mean, the hand was absolutely incredible really,

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and it's out now on the poker Goo Twitter account,

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so go check it out. It's just the whole thing.

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It's just wild and like on the turn again, the

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hand just it starts kind of meaningless. Obviously, players connect

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with the flop and then the you know, the the

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nine pairs of the board. On the turn, You're like, okay,

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some fireworks, but in a limped pot, how crazy is

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it gonna get? And then all of a sudden, it's

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just like raise, raise, right, what the hell's going on?

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Nick Shulman ends up finding a double up through Calvin Anderson.

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There's that, and then Calvin Anderson is super short. He's

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in the small blind. He moves all in the jack

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five and guess what, Jeremie Osmas just has two kings

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in the big blind, Like, no big deal, so he

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quickly calls there those kings hold. I mean Ousma's went

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on to make a full house. No big deal, and

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Ozmus ends up knocking out Calvin Anderson in third place.

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At Anderson takes some one hundred and twenty thousand dollars,

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and then Ozmas takes a big, big chip lead into

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heads up play seven point four million for Ozmas one

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point eight million for Shulman and Buddy. We both drafted

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these guys. Unfortunately you didn't draft as well as I did,

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because I picked the guy who had I picked the

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guy who had the horseshoe up his ass. For the

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entire final table, we got we, we got it, we

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got we got people down to heads up play.

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Speaker 2: I also had the bubble boy too, or one of

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the bubble boys. That doesn't count for anything, I know,

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but I was right there. I was right there.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't count for anything. How long did they play

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heads up for a long time? Right?

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Speaker 2: No? Oh, they didn't heads up? No, they didn't play

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long at all.

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Speaker 1: Oh. Oh, I was confused because I texted you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a delayed response, very delayed response, which.

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Speaker 1: Made me think that they were playing for like an hour.

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I was like, what are these guys doing?

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Speaker 2: It took they took a long break, and then yeah,

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got back into it.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to tell me if it happened. But

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do you allow a chop to happen in this situation,

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mister commissioner.

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Speaker 2: I'd say money, they can do whatever they want.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I know it's like money plus passport dollars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we just want the passports to remain in You know,

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here's the thing with these two people, they're probably the

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two of the best ten people to get heads up

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up for what we're trying to do. We're regarding passports like,

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I have no no worries that Nick and Jeremy going

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to eat through their passports within a couple of series.

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Speaker 1: You know, by the Sugar Roke Cup I did.

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Speaker 2: I did joke with you know, Jeremy. I was like,

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by the way, this expires, you know in two weeks,

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so PGT kickoff is going to be wild. But yeah, no,

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these two guys that they play very easily, the two

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of the top five, you know most events played per

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season in the studio, so they're going to get through

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it no problems.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So they didn't play long and then the final

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hand came up and it was actually a bluff by

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Shulman that ended up getting picked off in a good

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call by Ozmas. In the end, the hands started out

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with Shulman limping the button he had eight five off.

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Jeremy Osmus checked his option with King nine off from

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the Big Blind. It comes Jack nine to seven with

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a couple of diamonds, Ozma's check calls a bet fromman

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on the turn. The turn is the deuce of clubs,

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so a blank there. It was Jack of Spade's nine

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of diamonds, seven of diamonds on the flops and the

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turn is the deuce of clubs. Ozma's check calls again,

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this time a little bit of the larger bets, and

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then the river comes the seven of clubs, so it

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pairs the board. Ozma's checks and Shulman moves all in

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for one point one four five million. I think the

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pot at the time was like eight hundred and ninety.

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It was eight or nine hundred, I believe eight nine

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hundred thousand, So Ozma's per Sorry, Shulman moves all in

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a little bit of tank, but not not too long.

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Ozmas puts in the call. Shulman obviously turns over the

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old eight five for a missed gutter here, and Jeremy's

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out the door, or sorry, Shulman's out the door because

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Jeremy had middle pair. Interesting spot, you know, for for

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Jeremy overall, you know, does have that king of diamonds

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in his hand. Maybe can lean that you want your

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opponent to have the diamonds and and have missed the

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fluster and just go go piling. But I don't know,

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I don't know if in like a heads of scenario

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like this, that king of diamonds is as important of

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a blocker as other situations. But nevertheless, Ozmas was true

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to the test and he passed it. And uh, he's

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the PGT Championship. Kind of interesting that Shulman. I mean,

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what a week ago, week and a half ago, had

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that crazy bluff that he pulled at in the first

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event at the final table of the PGT Last Chance

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Series where he went for it against Yao Samau on

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the river having a king blocker to a Broadway straight combination,

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but somehow obviously had it. Every time you think you

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have the blocker, they have it. It's so frustrating. But anyway,

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Shulman ended up going on to win that event. You know,

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the fact that he nearly bluffed off his entire tournament

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didn't matter. He came back, ended up winning it. And

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then he ends up finishing second place here, ultimately going

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out on a bluffbutt valiant effort by him. Two hundred

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K in Shulman's pocket and again Jeremy Osmas five hundred

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thousand dollars richer the PGT Player of the Year. He

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locked up that title. He crushed the leader board two thy,

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nine hundred and sixty six points. He was likely going

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to be the PGT Player of the Year no matter

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what happened during PGT Last Chance. But then he went

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out and got a second place anyway, to pat his

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lead a little bit more. He took home a fifty

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thousand dollars championship or sorry, fifty thousand dollars bonus prize

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for wing the Player of the Year honors. And then

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here he obviously comes in first place as we have mentioned,

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five hundred K for Ozma. So just an absolutely incredible

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year from Jeremy Osmas. And afterwards you spoke with him, sir,

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I did at length I think about thirteen minutes or

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so fourteen minutes. So we'll play that interview for you

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guys right now.

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Speaker 2: Jeremy, congratulations on two things. Factly, twenty twenty four PGT

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Player of the secondly winner of the pg team Million

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Dollar Championship.

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Speaker 3: But let's talk about.

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Speaker 2: Player of the winning that season long playing hundreds of events.

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How does it what does it mean to you to

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win that honor?

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Speaker 4: A lot, Like I was selling Jeff Platt. You know,

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there's a lot of the best players in the world

474
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,240
here in Vegas, and this is kind of where we

475
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,079
come to battle and the place that pgt's provided for

476
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,000
us to play high sakes that didn't used to exist

477
00:25:33,039 --> 00:25:37,759
on a very regular basis. So it's just really it

478
00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:40,640
means a lot because it's it's tough, tough competition, lots

479
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,160
of great players, so to win it is amazing. The

480
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,599
leaderboards awesome. I love it it really, I don't know,

481
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,680
I love the leaderboard. It just really inspires me to

482
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,599
play a lot a leader just like it's kind of

483
00:25:51,599 --> 00:25:52,279
like a video game.

484
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:53,839
Speaker 3: You want to try to get to the top, you know,

485
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,480
So for me, I just I love it.

486
00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:57,519
Speaker 2: So when the season starts, you know, like a new

487
00:25:57,519 --> 00:25:59,720
season is going to sound soon. Is this something that's

488
00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:01,079
I could all of you like, Hey, I'm going to

489
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,720
win it this year? Or is it more just like

490
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,960
you know the results of falling away, Hey let's make

491
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,480
a run of this.

492
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,079
Speaker 4: Well, I just am going to put in a lot

493
00:26:10,079 --> 00:26:14,359
of volume here no matter what. And so like I've

494
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,640
never set financial or monetary goals for poker, I just

495
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,039
try to put in that time and play my best

496
00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:23,720
and always improve. Those are like my three things, right,

497
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,519
and then the results take care of themselves eventually. So

498
00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:30,359
I think my chances every year are good to win

499
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,160
this because I play all the games. I live here,

500
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,279
so at the series, i'm here and I get to

501
00:26:35,319 --> 00:26:37,279
sleep my own bed, I go all out of the series,

502
00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:40,400
and those are very point you know, heavy for points

503
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,880
for the PGT. So yeah, I just think every I

504
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,519
just have a great shot every year.

505
00:26:46,519 --> 00:26:49,599
Speaker 3: But it's not like I guess it's my goal, but

506
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,519
it's not like my specific goal, but it's kind of

507
00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:55,480
just the outcome of my process. I guess would.

508
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: You say that heading into HPGT season that you're among

509
00:26:58,839 --> 00:27:02,640
the one to three maybe five people that are favorites

510
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,480
to always win, you know, top Player of the year.

511
00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 3: I think for sure I am.

512
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,039
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Nigranio and me are put in

513
00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:13,599
the most end. Probably Jim Callapi are probably the three

514
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,319
guys that come to mind that are in here battling

515
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,920
like every series, every you know, PLO Mix, No Limit

516
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:26,119
World Series, we play everything. So yeah, those are the

517
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,640
three that really come to mind. There's a lot of

518
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,000
there's others too that maybe don't play mix, but they

519
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,359
they play a lot of PLO, No Women, Sean Winter

520
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:38,240
Solverle So yeah, I'm definitely up there with I think

521
00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:39,759
one of the favorite sinum.

522
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 2: Talking about your season, you know, it took a while

523
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,920
for you to get that win on the ball, you know,

524
00:27:44,039 --> 00:27:46,079
before that, there's a bit of a lull. Does that

525
00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:49,240
how does that affect you, you know, turning up every day?

526
00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:51,160
Is it something frustrating or is it just kind of

527
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,559
part of the process, part of the grind, part of

528
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,720
like what you're expecting when you come here. Yeah, it doesn't.

529
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,839
Speaker 4: It really doesn't bother me that much to not win.

530
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,440
I look at how my years going, Am I winning?

531
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,599
Speaker 3: Am I losing? Like how many final tables have I made?

532
00:28:06,599 --> 00:28:09,559
How many? You know, because I've had I was just

533
00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:11,039
deep in everything. So it's like.

534
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 4: There's kind of a trade off you can make, Like

535
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:17,079
certain players will either have all the chips in the

536
00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:18,960
tournament and they're going to win more often, or they're

537
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,440
going to be out but they're not going to be

538
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,400
there as much, right, So what makes the most money?

539
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,759
Speaker 3: That's what I try to focus on.

540
00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:28,039
Speaker 4: And I think being there a lot and getting seconds

541
00:28:28,079 --> 00:28:30,519
and thirds and fifths and sixth. That all adds up

542
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:33,839
to a lot. So it's not like the Super Bowl.

543
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,400
It's not like football or baseball where the only goal

544
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,480
is to win and you get second, you lost.

545
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: It's just not like that with poker.

546
00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 4: When you get second and you want a bunch of money,

547
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,119
you won, right, So the titles are nice and they

548
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,359
come eventually.

549
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: But that wasn't bothering me really sometimes round But I

550
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,920
guess one of your favorite things about the PGT is

551
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,440
the lead of Baard. Obviously playing the studio is a great.

552
00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 3: Place to play.

553
00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:03,279
Speaker 2: Bit what don't you like about the PGT? Is there

554
00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:05,759
anything that you would like to see, you know, going

555
00:29:05,759 --> 00:29:08,119
forward improved or something, Hey, I would like this to happen.

556
00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:10,000
You know, we always have people pitching the half and

557
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:12,559
half and then and other things, and we've made lots

558
00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:14,759
of changes over the years, adding a mixed series, adding

559
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:17,200
a pelog. But to you personally, what would you like,

560
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,319
you know, to see in twenty twenty five or twenty

561
00:29:19,319 --> 00:29:19,799
twenty six.

562
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 3: I mean first could be like five million and stuff.

563
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean I don't have any complaints about

564
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:31,920
it's amazing. I'm just very grateful for the PGT even

565
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,559
existing because it gives me a place to come come

566
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,519
work a lot, right, and they add in this extra money,

567
00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:41,119
so it's a it's a big deal for like the

568
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,720
grinding professionals like me and Jim and you know people

569
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:45,000
like that.

570
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,759
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't change a lot. And you guys, you

571
00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:48,440
guys listen to.

572
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 4: Feedback really well as far as you know, adding new

573
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,799
events or you know, you're always improving the tournaments and

574
00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:59,680
this and that. So I just I can't really I

575
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,799
would change much about it, honestly.

576
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, perfect good, they're gonna turn me out now. But

577
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,319
let's talk about the PGT Championship.

578
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

579
00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:10,759
Speaker 2: You know we've talked about this, you know, via text

580
00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:13,519
message and stuff. How we changed the points for change,

581
00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:17,119
how we started this tournament this year with set points

582
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:20,400
instead of set, slotting stack instead of points, leading to

583
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,400
stunning stack and obviously disadvantage you slightly. But REGANI, you know,

584
00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:28,359
ignore all that. Is it added pressure when you come

585
00:30:28,359 --> 00:30:31,359
in here as the chip leader to say, get through

586
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,319
these fifty entry field and win the whole thing.

587
00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:35,519
Speaker 3: No, there's no added pressure.

588
00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:37,279
Speaker 4: I mean I started to fight more big blinds in

589
00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:39,799
the Grand le ten, more big blinds, and I think

590
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,319
Seth Davies fifteen more big blinds than Rocco. I think so,

591
00:30:46,119 --> 00:30:48,799
I mean, you see it all the time, right, it's

592
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,279
I guess people who don't play a lot, they probably see.

593
00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: Who's chip leading the tournament.

594
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 4: Like I'll see an experienced players like they're playing in

595
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,119
a tournament with someone and some guy has all the chips,

596
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:01,480
and then later they're like, you busted?

597
00:31:01,839 --> 00:31:02,599
Speaker 3: What happened? Now?

598
00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 4: You know, they can't believe that they didn't win the tournament.

599
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:07,440
It's like you're just not gonna win the tournament, even

600
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,480
when your chip leader with ten left or five left, Like,

601
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:12,839
you don't just win eighty percent of the time, you

602
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,119
don't win the majority of the time. So with fifty

603
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,799
left and not even a huge chip leader, it's like

604
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,319
it's anyone's games. I mean, it's I'm favored, I guess,

605
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,960
you know, but it's not like I'm likely to win. Yeah,

606
00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:31,079
So I don't put too much pressure on myself. I

607
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,480
just try to play my best.

608
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: So you know, this year finished, until the lad Well

609
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,480
you side with three hundred and fifty big blinds, do

610
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:41,599
you think maybe that's not enough? Then? As a reward

611
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,519
for a season long campaign of playing in, you know,

612
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,440
day in, day out, do you think maybe three fifty

613
00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:49,160
isn't worthy justification of finishing on tip?

614
00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:53,039
Speaker 4: I mean you get the fifty thousand right for winning

615
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:56,119
the PGT Championship, and then you have the highest equity

616
00:31:56,119 --> 00:31:59,039
in the tournament. Like, that's pretty good. Generally first place

617
00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:02,720
is already going to had a great year, So I

618
00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:07,359
kind of even though it wasn't advantageous for me this

619
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,359
year to start my chips based on PGT points. Instead

620
00:32:11,359 --> 00:32:13,519
it was based on position this year, and I didn't

621
00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:15,359
start with as much as it would have last year,

622
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:19,119
I think it's probably better for the PGT in the

623
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,880
idea of the free role as giving back to the

624
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,960
people who are in here all the time, grinding put

625
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,480
in in the hours. You probably don't want to focus

626
00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:29,119
too much of that on the top guy. I mean

627
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:34,759
just looking at it holistically, trying to be objective about it. Greedily,

628
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,839
I could say that it shouldn't be like that, because

629
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:39,599
if I think I have a higher.

630
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,039
Speaker 3: Chance of winning the leaderboard a lot, it's.

631
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,799
Speaker 4: In my best interest, yeah, best interest for it to

632
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:49,599
be based on Although most of the time first doesn't

633
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,759
have such a lead as I had a huge, big

634
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,799
year it was humongous, So I think the way it

635
00:32:54,839 --> 00:32:57,680
was done this year was was was good for.

636
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,759
Speaker 2: This PGD Championship. We play the top six, it's very

637
00:32:59,799 --> 00:33:03,200
off the prize will go. So first, do you think

638
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,319
this would be better as everyone is in the money

639
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,680
kind of tournament where you know, we in a way

640
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:12,599
you you know, being able to be in it is

641
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:14,559
a bit of like a break back. Maybe everyone's got

642
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,880
a five km in cash and then at the final

643
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,160
table or maybe even the last fourteen you have some

644
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:19,839
pay jumps.

645
00:33:20,079 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. I haven't thought about that. I guess you.

646
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 4: It's nice to have a nice, good solid number of

647
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:30,559
top five hundred because that's bigger than most then a

648
00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:32,839
lot of the day, you know the tournament's in here,

649
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,920
most are two three hundred for first, So it's nice

650
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,319
to have that big number because it is the special

651
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,519
culmination event. But yeah, I could see merits for spreading

652
00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:50,319
it out. But then what's first going to be? Yeah,

653
00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:53,200
which is still yeah, yeah, yeah, it's still great and

654
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,240
then everyone is realizing their equity right away more rather

655
00:33:57,319 --> 00:34:00,000
than the way this is set up, it's pretty high variant,

656
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,000
especially because it's very top heavy, so it's a lot

657
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:07,440
of variants, you know, and the pros feel differently about it.

658
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,119
But even just playing this file table, this is a

659
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:12,840
different final table than most finel tables because you play

660
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:13,599
to win at more.

661
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:15,159
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, first is a lot.

662
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's my follow up question, you know, on

663
00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:20,480
that on the money Bubble yesterday when were down to

664
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,960
do tables. You know you're on the short side. Does

665
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,559
it really affect how you play this event? In particular

666
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,400
because it's so top heavy even though it's a free

667
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,199
roll though, so you haven't put up any money, But

668
00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:33,679
does it? Does it change the way you play?

669
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 4: So not putting up the money doesn't change anything for me.

670
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:40,199
I just change the way I play because it's so

671
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,440
top heavy. Yeah, so like I missed, I should have

672
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,719
played this hand that I didn't play, and like you

673
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:48,400
sort of get stuck in your you're just not used

674
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:55,159
to these these payouts. So yeah, I mean it's fun.

675
00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:58,639
It's probably better to watch because people are like, this

676
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,519
final table was p a little looser than most, and

677
00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:05,599
that's because people are playing to win more. So it's

678
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:08,480
good for something different. Yeah, I don't, I don't know

679
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,559
what most people prefer. I'm kind of I don't have

680
00:35:11,679 --> 00:35:14,559
super strong feelings about I'm kind of just like set

681
00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:16,519
it up and good point, Yeah.

682
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 3: Play as long as it's not I don't hate it.

683
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,079
You know, I think this is much better than when

684
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:21,960
it was Winner Take All though. I like this, This

685
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:22,840
is better for sure.

686
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:25,599
Speaker 2: Let's look at twenty twenty five seasons around the corner.

687
00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:27,480
You were already ditching us to go to try it,

688
00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:29,920
and you know, you take, You're taking the money, You're running,

689
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,960
You're running other big boys in the j jube. But

690
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:37,599
a real question is how are you approaching this next season?

691
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:40,599
Is it just reset, I'm gonna grind, I'm gonna keep playing,

692
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,840
or like you've kind of won this award, you've won

693
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,639
the big one. You can like maybe spend some more

694
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:47,840
time with the family. The kids say, at home, what's

695
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:48,840
what's the plan? Do you think?

696
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:49,039
Speaker 1: No?

697
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 4: I mean I spend a pretty good amount of time

698
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,719
with the family at home. It's not like I'm working

699
00:35:54,159 --> 00:35:57,000
fifty hours a week again or any you know, anything crazy.

700
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,760
I just kind of put my hours in and it's

701
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:01,880
it's intense at times, but then I get.

702
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,039
Speaker 3: Two weeks off, sometimes three weeks off, like several times.

703
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 4: A year, So I just am just coming into play

704
00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:11,360
again like last year, and I don't think anything's really changed.

705
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,199
Speaker 3: I'm just ready to come in and come in and

706
00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:19,119
play and play a lot of events. It does hurt

707
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,119
to miss the Mixed Game series a little bit, but

708
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:24,400
I've been trying to say, trying to I always say,

709
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,840
I'm going to go to the next trait and the

710
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,920
next tright, and so I decide I'm going this time

711
00:36:29,079 --> 00:36:31,599
like I'm going to do it and see so. So

712
00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:34,320
at least I'm not missing a big No Limit series

713
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,639
or the PLO series. Those are my two. I'm better

714
00:36:38,679 --> 00:36:41,079
at those games. So I do love the mix series,

715
00:36:41,079 --> 00:36:44,440
but it's I'm just gonna have to miss them this time.

716
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,519
Speaker 2: You have two kids at home and a wife had

717
00:36:46,519 --> 00:36:50,440
Do they feel about dad playing poker? They do they

718
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,079
watch your final tables? Do they? Are they interested in

719
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:55,119
it or they just think it's just a job and

720
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,239
generally can Yeah.

721
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,039
Speaker 3: I mean my kids think it's cool and I bring

722
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:00,840
home the trophies. They watch it. They probably were watching

723
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,880
this one. They don't watch all of them. They watch some.

724
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 4: My kids aren't really into poker. They are curious how

725
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,360
I did. And you know, if I want a trophy

726
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,400
or a bunch of money. But they're they don't really play.

727
00:37:13,519 --> 00:37:15,400
I tried to teach them many times, and they just

728
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,719
don't want to sit down and learn it, and they

729
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,960
don't want to take the time to do it. They

730
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,239
don't seem to have the patience for it. So but

731
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,280
my wife is always watching. And then like my family,

732
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,599
my sisters, my mom, step dad, they're always watching every

733
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:28,920
event now and everything like that.

734
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 3: So which is which is cool? So I always have

735
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,119
a lot of people rooting for me.

736
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: Awesome, Well, congratulations PGT player, the PGT Championship winner. You

737
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,079
get two giant chicks and now you're going to take

738
00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:42,119
your money and go to the bad boys of chatting.

739
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:43,280
But it's okay. I'll forgive you.

740
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: I promise. It's not the passport money man.

741
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,079
Speaker 2: Take the money.

742
00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:46,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, walk up.

743
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 2: I did that for reasons. Those guys get it. But congratulations,

744
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,639
great season. Hopefully twenty twenty five is just as good.

745
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 3: Thanks man, appreciate it.

746
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: All right. That was tim with Jeremy as one one

747
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,679
thing that stood out to me during the interview when

748
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,199
you know you asked him about being like a favorite

749
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,159
to win or be in contention Player the Year just

750
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:15,000
based on like everything that he plays. He didn't mention Nick.

751
00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:17,199
Speaker 2: He didn't know.

752
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:20,519
Speaker 1: I just thought that he would. That would be fresh

753
00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:23,679
in mine because I mean it's obviously like like Jeremy said,

754
00:38:23,679 --> 00:38:26,800
it's it's Daniel, it's Jim Callapy, and then I would

755
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,079
say Nick Shulman's the other one.

756
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,159
Speaker 2: Nick Schulman's probably yeah, definitely fourth. You know, you could

757
00:38:33,159 --> 00:38:37,159
probably maybe even put a John Reord in there, Dylan Weisman.

758
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: John Ordan won't play mixed. Nick would play mixed.

759
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: Riordan has played mix, though, depending on what the mix is.

760
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure John Riordan can spell Horse.

761
00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:52,039
Speaker 2: Okay, wow, King King, Johnny had Day, you talk like that.

762
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: I've never seen that guy play anything other than Nolan

763
00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:56,639
hold Him and Pioelo. So I don't know what you

764
00:38:56,679 --> 00:38:57,480
want me to check.

765
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,599
Speaker 2: Right now, but yeah, Dylan, this one's definitely up there nowadays,

766
00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:05,159
you know, being out of play everything as well.

767
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,159
Speaker 1: No, for sure, but yeah, I thought, obviously Jeremy is

768
00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:14,400
an extremely deserving winner. It's great that the player of

769
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,679
the Year ended up coming out on top. You know,

770
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,800
for anyone who's played fantasy football out there or probably

771
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,440
anything fantasy sports, you know, you can often be the

772
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,719
best team in the regular season and then you just,

773
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,360
you know, lose in the first or second round of

774
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,719
the playoffs and you're just pissed.

775
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 2: Right March eighth, twenty twenty four, John Reordan fourth place,

776
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,679
PGT Mixed Games five K and no limit Douce.

777
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,079
Speaker 1: There you go, Yeah, buddy, a big bet game, Buddy,

778
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,159
a big bet game.

779
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,599
Speaker 2: Okay, you can't. Well you have to climorify this.

780
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: You can't.

781
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: You guys call it just limit. You just want limit only. Okay.

782
00:39:48,559 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: Listen, there's there's two categories of the games. There's big

783
00:39:52,519 --> 00:39:55,079
bet and there's mixed. And the mix is generally always

784
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,480
about the limit limit games, and then the big bet

785
00:39:58,519 --> 00:40:01,400
is the big bet. Stuff don't really count in big bet.

786
00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:04,000
And also, I remember that run and I remember speaking

787
00:40:04,039 --> 00:40:05,920
with him. He had no idea what he was doing. Okay,

788
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:10,280
he was open about that, very open about that. Let

789
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,199
me ask you, you're the commission I mean, we'll put

790
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,119
a bow on the PGT Million Dollar Championship. Are you

791
00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:20,119
happy with the way that it turned out? Do you

792
00:40:20,159 --> 00:40:22,840
have anything that you're already cooking up for next year? Like,

793
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,079
what do you what are your thoughts?

794
00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 2: No? I think it very really really well. It was

795
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,360
great to see a very deserving winner, Jeremy taking it down.

796
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,159
I think it's kind of cool that, you know, the

797
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:36,920
player of the year also won, you know, the season

798
00:40:37,079 --> 00:40:40,639
concluding championship. That's that's kind of awesome. And to go

799
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:46,639
heads up with Nick, another PGT regular is also great.

800
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,840
Season was good. You know, we did did some new stuff,

801
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:54,840
tweaked some old things. I think everyone is pretty happy

802
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,519
with how it went. Always trying to improve to put

803
00:40:58,559 --> 00:41:00,559
on the best tour for these players. So you know,

804
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:02,039
that's why I kind of ask Jeremy, you know, what

805
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:04,360
would you what else would you approve? You know, I

806
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,280
talk to players all the time about that, how can

807
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,119
we just get one percent better? Because one percent better

808
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,039
is better than not getting better. So we'll tweak this

809
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:17,199
championship next year a couple different ways. And I you know,

810
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,800
I tried to get it on last year and I couldn't.

811
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:23,280
I'm pulling to try and get this Bounty series somewhere

812
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,679
in our schedule. Definitely thinking about a half and half

813
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,440
event or series. We'll see what we can do there.

814
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,199
But yeah, first half of the season it's set. You

815
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,239
can find everything on PGT dot com Schedule structure sheets.

816
00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:41,639
Only thing that's not on there is the Texas Poker Open,

817
00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:45,119
which we'll be announcing very soon, and then we'll after that,

818
00:41:45,639 --> 00:41:48,239
we'll start figuring out the back half of the season.

819
00:41:48,679 --> 00:41:57,519
Speaker 1: Do you anticipate that players are excited to chase the

820
00:41:57,559 --> 00:42:00,360
top forty of the leader ward and chase qualification into

821
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,639
the PGT Championship. The reason why I'm asking is it

822
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,880
definitely you could definitely feel that the buzz and the

823
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,760
excitement around PGT Last Chance, But PGT Last Chance is

824
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:16,079
kind of this independent thing. I'm just wondering if that

825
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,840
same sort of buzz you think will carry over it

826
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,559
all to the entire season and not just be so

827
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,559
focused on that final series.

828
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that final series is just just so

829
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,519
great with everything that's going on, Like, I don't think

830
00:42:31,519 --> 00:42:34,400
we should be expecting the same numbers at the upcoming

831
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,239
PGT kickoff. I think we need to be realistic and

832
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,000
know that the players were playing Last Chance to try

833
00:42:41,079 --> 00:42:44,159
and qualify for the free Roll. There wasn't really any

834
00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:47,920
competing events on come kickoff. You know, everyone's kind of

835
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,400
getting back into things. You got Bogada and Seminole kicking

836
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,920
off their series, so players now have a few more options,

837
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,559
so I think our numbers will go down, but that

838
00:42:57,559 --> 00:43:00,360
doesn't mean the season is going to be abut you know,

839
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,239
it's going to start slow. Then we'll come back up

840
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,000
with the Poco Cup, you know, we have the mixed games,

841
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,800
the PLO or the USPO. Like. I still think it's

842
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,400
going to be a good season. I'm hoping that all

843
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,199
the work we did during the year, getting new faces

844
00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:20,280
in the studio, extensive satellites, we can kind of grow

845
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,119
on that. You know, I think the most important thing

846
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,239
is to get new people in the studio playing, experiencing

847
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:31,199
what it's like to play a PGT event, experience you know,

848
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,000
the first class aria staff and how they handle the

849
00:43:35,039 --> 00:43:38,320
whole operation of the tournament. And you'll see that we

850
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,079
get these people in the door, they have a great experience, win,

851
00:43:41,199 --> 00:43:44,039
lose or draw and come back. And I think that's

852
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:47,440
the most important thing for the longevity of what we're

853
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:48,440
trying to do with the PGT.

854
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope it carries over, you know, I

855
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,039
hope it just not all just bunched up into into

856
00:43:55,119 --> 00:43:58,760
last chance and people do you know, try and compete

857
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,239
over the course of the entire season, and not just say, hey,

858
00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:04,800
why don't I just instead of putting in all that

859
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,719
time and effort and bankroll money over the course of

860
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,280
an entire season, why don't I just come out for

861
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,599
Last Chance and just try and do it that way,

862
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,000
you know, take my swing at that time. So we'll see.

863
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,159
But as you mentioned, it all starts with kickoff coming

864
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,159
up in just over a week's time. Four or five

865
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,920
k's one, ten k double points for everything. You seem

866
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,119
to be less bullish on the numbers than I am.

867
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I just know first handsome players heading

868
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,400
to Seminal like they're heading to Bogatta now that then

869
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,239
they're gonna go to Seminole. We got we got your

870
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:44,199
boy kickoff legend, David Coleman skipping Kickoff to go to Disneyland.

871
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're only supposed to go to Disneyland

872
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:47,280
if you win.

873
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: Well, he I ain't winning anything kickoff. And look, that's

874
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,239
if we really think about it. These guys have put in.

875
00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:56,880
You know that there was six events during Last Chance

876
00:44:57,679 --> 00:45:01,400
long days, a lot on the line, so you know

877
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,280
they want to skip the first series of the season

878
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,239
and go do something else. So go play someone else

879
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,840
that's okay, they'll come back, they know where home is.

880
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,119
But it gives you know what, It gives the opportunity

881
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,920
to someone else like David Coleman this year to launch

882
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:21,840
themselves up the leaderboard and be in a position to

883
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:26,239
start the year as number one with that double points,

884
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,400
that that extra lead, and maybe that propels them to

885
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,599
play full schedules for the entire BGT season.

886
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah we won't. We won't talk about it on this show.

887
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:39,760
But the next one that we'll do in what I'm

888
00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:41,920
planning for is a couple of days. We got to

889
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,440
do the same thing that we kind of did last year,

890
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:44,760
you know, like who's going to be the break up

891
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,159
player of the year whatever. I mean, not to too

892
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,719
my own horn, but I did pick David Coleman, and

893
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,440
then he just went out and kick off and just

894
00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:54,159
had four cash's one two events, just absolutely crushed the

895
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,440
damn thing. So I'm going to try and find the

896
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,199
next David Coleman. Okay. I also think that we need

897
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,679
to install PGT. This is my suggestion, not that you

898
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,760
asked me like you asked Jeremy, but but I'm just

899
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,719
gonna inject it right here. We need to install awards

900
00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:15,639
for the PGT and and I want them to be

901
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,079
like player voted awards, much like the NBA does it,

902
00:46:20,119 --> 00:46:22,639
and stuff like like I want like best short best

903
00:46:22,639 --> 00:46:25,519
short stack player. I mean, it's for sure going to

904
00:46:25,559 --> 00:46:27,760
be Sean Winter, but like, no, I know, but it'd

905
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,800
be cool. It'd be cool to like you just will

906
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,039
hand out like a little thing where people can just

907
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:34,199
check names or write names or whatever. We'll pass it around,

908
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,880
you know, best, this, best that, whatever.

909
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,559
Speaker 2: Like it. It'd be what's what's just put.

910
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,079
Speaker 1: Them out there as some content at the end we

911
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:43,119
can talk about on the podcast like whatever. You know,

912
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,199
like the gp I used to have that, you know,

913
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,000
like the toughest player or whatever, and Steven Shouldwicks just

914
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,159
win it every year, like what are the who's the

915
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:55,239
toughest player in the PGT group? You know, like let's

916
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:55,960
I think that was.

917
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: No because I was chatting with David Coleman about the

918
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,039
upcoming Global Parker Awards and I said that you're going,

919
00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:06,039
you know, you have to make a speech, et cetera,

920
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:08,119
because no, I'm not. I'm not I'm going to try

921
00:47:08,159 --> 00:47:11,039
it or something. So okay, because I don't really like

922
00:47:11,079 --> 00:47:13,039
those awards kind of shows, and I go, well, you

923
00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:14,800
better like them because I'm going to do one for

924
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,199
us next year. Kind of joking, but kind of serious

925
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,159
because I keep thinking about, like, you know, I look

926
00:47:21,159 --> 00:47:24,440
at our all time stats and talking about you know,

927
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,440
so much talk about WSP Hall of Fame. But I

928
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,559
was like, well, we could have a PGT Hall of

929
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:31,159
Fame at one point, just like it should be like

930
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,119
a play in. You know, once you hit certain criteria,

931
00:47:34,119 --> 00:47:37,119
you're in. It's not a nomination thing. But like I

932
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:39,119
was thinking, it'd be cool to have, you know, before

933
00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:41,760
the championship. You have the nice you have, like I

934
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,199
said at dinner with like the forty that make it right,

935
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,280
and you could I was actually thinking exactly what you

936
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,559
just mentioned about awards and like presenting some in season awards,

937
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:57,159
presenting some like five year period awards, et cetera. Kind

938
00:47:57,199 --> 00:48:00,639
of really put that put some effort into like showcasing

939
00:48:00,639 --> 00:48:03,039
our players and highlighting out players because I think they do.

940
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,880
They do enjoy that. We heard them saying that during

941
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,440
the championship. You know, we had like players playing in the

942
00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:10,920
championship for the first time. I was like, oh, this

943
00:48:11,039 --> 00:48:13,559
is awesome, this is so good, Like great to be

944
00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:15,119
a part of this, Like, you know, we're giving out

945
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:16,280
this special I would.

946
00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:17,599
Speaker 1: Say that too, if you're giving me a million dollar

947
00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:18,039
free roll.

948
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, letting you know they're bothering me up, got it,

949
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:23,440
got it.

950
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're making sure the million comes back next year. Okay,

951
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,840
that's what they're doing.

952
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,599
Speaker 2: A million will always be there if it was up

953
00:48:29,639 --> 00:48:29,840
to me.

954
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I thought the PGC Championship was a

955
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,960
great event. I can't wait to run it back next year.

956
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:40,440
You know, I'm very much looking forward to it once again.

957
00:48:41,559 --> 00:48:45,760
That sweat at the end, you know, right around I

958
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,880
mean it started a little bit earlier than the Last

959
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,199
Chance I mean Last Chances, when it really all like

960
00:48:51,679 --> 00:48:54,039
was headlining stuff, you know, coupled with the fact that

961
00:48:54,039 --> 00:48:57,440
there really wasn't anything else going on in poker, which

962
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,559
which helps. But you know, just before that, you know,

963
00:49:01,159 --> 00:49:03,840
down in Texas, you know, just just starting to get

964
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:08,599
the the the buzz out there of the people who

965
00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:11,280
are trying to chase those additional cashes, like all that

966
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:11,880
sort of thing.

967
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 3: You know.

968
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: So so yeah, I think personally, I would like to

969
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,119
make it our biggest goal is to everyone comes that

970
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,719
freaking qualifies.

971
00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:24,559
Speaker 2: Like like that's what that's the one thing with changing.

972
00:49:25,039 --> 00:49:27,039
Speaker 1: I know, but it's it's like, but I want them

973
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:30,440
to all like come and you know whatever, Like I

974
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:34,159
want them to be there when phil Ivy qualifies, Like, Well.

975
00:49:34,039 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 2: There's one way to do that, and that's to change

976
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,000
the payoffs where it's like everyone is cash is for

977
00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:42,000
five k up until the final table, like I discussed

978
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:46,559
for Jeremy. That's that's probably the best way to people

979
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,760
so people can realize some avas and equities straight away. Yeah.

980
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: The other the other I was thinking about the three

981
00:49:53,559 --> 00:49:56,639
cash requirement. I was wondering if that should be higher.

982
00:49:57,519 --> 00:49:59,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't think I'm not because you and

983
00:49:59,679 --> 00:50:00,039
I have to.

984
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 1: Baited this before, like this exact thing when we when

985
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,639
we were putting it in, you and I were like debating,

986
00:50:05,679 --> 00:50:07,599
and I can't even remember what side we were on.

987
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,559
Speaker 2: I think it's I think this proof that three is

988
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:15,239
a good number. We had obviously Jonathan Tomorrow fight everything

989
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,159
in Texas Payler round up, fight everything it last chance

990
00:50:18,519 --> 00:50:21,679
to get one cash. You got it, Matthew Lambresh fight

991
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,119
everything in Pokemons has missed out, Like there's some value

992
00:50:26,159 --> 00:50:28,280
to the three cash now if you go to four

993
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,079
or five it's much harder for some guy that's you know,

994
00:50:31,159 --> 00:50:33,400
bingked one thing or two things at the World Series

995
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,360
to chase three more cases throughout the especially if they're

996
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,880
you know, businessman or you know they But I'm getting

997
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,119
it is that I want to make it harder.

998
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,119
Speaker 1: I mean, no, it's not. It's not necessarily that I

999
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:49,360
want to make it harder. I want to cater it

1000
00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:53,280
more to the people that play the highest volume of

1001
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,599
our owned and operaated events in the studio. M That's

1002
00:50:57,639 --> 00:51:01,480
what I want to do. Like if you have like

1003
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,679
five cashes at the Doubs a p and they're they're great,

1004
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,000
and they're certainly noteworthy, and they get you a lot

1005
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,480
of points and you want a lot of money. And

1006
00:51:08,519 --> 00:51:10,679
it's not that that stuff is not extremely hard, because

1007
00:51:10,679 --> 00:51:15,480
it is. But that's like done through a partnership more

1008
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,400
so than it is our own and operated events. You

1009
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:18,960
don't even really have it have to step foot in

1010
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,039
the studio. So, like, you know, I would rather somebody

1011
00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:25,280
and maybe I'll change my mind if I think a

1012
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,880
little bit further this because I'm kind of just thinking

1013
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,280
off the top of my head, but like just somebody

1014
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,840
who's like literally always at the studio playing all of

1015
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:36,800
our events like that seems where we should be channeling things.

1016
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's worth, it's worth definitely discussing. And we

1017
00:51:41,519 --> 00:51:44,920
have a week now to figure out any rule tweaks

1018
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,840
or changes before before PG take kickoff. Let's go.

1019
00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm ready for kickoff.

1020
00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: I'm not I need this week off.

1021
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 1: I wish I wish you were running satellites for kickoff.

1022
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,199
Speaker 2: You've got to talk to the area boys about that.

1023
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,519
One would yeah, definitely wouldn't make sense.

1024
00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be in there for sure, especially with

1025
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,760
if you ultimately get in then it's double point to

1026
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:16,199
kind of catapults the whole thing, like yep, yeah, that'd

1027
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,800
be legit. So kickoff is gonna be fun. Coming up

1028
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,400
in just over a week's time. January twentieth is the

1029
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,519
first event. The plan is to stream the final tables

1030
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:27,159
January twenty first through twenty fifth. The plan is for

1031
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,639
REMC Rinkama and myself to be in the booth. So yeah,

1032
00:52:31,679 --> 00:52:34,119
good stuff. And then right after that, it's like what

1033
00:52:35,039 --> 00:52:38,400
two or three weeks before OPRA groke up, yep, and

1034
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,599
we're freaking off man, It's like right back the running.

1035
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,440
December is you know, in terms of our work, stuff

1036
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:48,920
is generally pretty low key, you know, and we obviously

1037
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,719
do our day to day, but without events running a lot,

1038
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,960
without shows being filmed, et cetera, it's it's a little

1039
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,039
bit uh or it's a lot less of a lift.

1040
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,039
That's one reason why Tim and I are out there

1041
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,079
playing a lot more in December. But then once January hits, man,

1042
00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:09,440
it's go, go go. So here's to a successful PGT season.

1043
00:53:09,639 --> 00:53:12,119
I think I can confidently say that it was successful,

1044
00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:15,920
and I'm looking forward to another successful one, and hopefully

1045
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,000
we can do it bigger and better than we did

1046
00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:21,519
this last year. That's the goal. So let's see if

1047
00:53:21,559 --> 00:53:24,719
we can make it happen. The pods won't stop, of course,

1048
00:53:25,519 --> 00:53:30,639
let's go. I you said to our buddy Matt's average

1049
00:53:30,679 --> 00:53:32,719
that we're going to do more pods this year than

1050
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,519
we did last year. You said that, yes, okay, now

1051
00:53:36,519 --> 00:53:37,199
we got to do it.

1052
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:41,119
Speaker 2: I just think that I'm going to kind of force

1053
00:53:41,199 --> 00:53:43,960
you to, you know, do a few more. We go

1054
00:53:44,039 --> 00:53:46,599
through some lulls outside of the World Series, so.

1055
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: You don't need to force me.

1056
00:53:48,119 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 2: No, I need to force you. You get lazy sometimes

1057
00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:52,440
I don't get late. I think we'll do it. I

1058
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,360
think we I think we're already on a good look,

1059
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,360
We're already know this is our fourth part of the year.

1060
00:53:57,079 --> 00:53:58,639
We're already off to a great start.

1061
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,039
Speaker 1: Well, wait, who's last.

1062
00:54:00,039 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 2: Our fourth problem?

1063
00:54:02,199 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: Yours are mine? You know, you can't take one off.

1064
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,400
And then we're like, yeah, I was there. No, you

1065
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,599
weren't there. You weren't even sending an interview in.

1066
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 2: You didn't do it.

1067
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: You didn't do anything. You didn't do a damn thing

1068
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,440
for that podcast. I did it. I woke my ass

1069
00:54:19,519 --> 00:54:22,320
up at five am. I went downstairs, I recorded the

1070
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:28,119
damn podcast. And you didn't do anything. You were sleeping, sleepy.

1071
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: Our team has done four this Yeah, it took us

1072
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,960
till February fourteenth last year to get to four. The

1073
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:39,320
year before that, it took us about the same time.

1074
00:54:39,639 --> 00:54:43,039
But I just feel like we're going to be more

1075
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:45,920
consistent outside of the World Series. We're very good during

1076
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,599
the World Series. Outside of the World Series, we need

1077
00:54:48,599 --> 00:54:50,519
to be better and it's a bit of a challenge

1078
00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:54,960
to ourselves to just keep the news flowing for the

1079
00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:00,000
listeners out there. And yeah, maybe we'll crack one hundred

1080
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:02,360
this year.

1081
00:55:03,159 --> 00:55:06,559
Speaker 1: We'll we will one thousand percent crack one hundred.

1082
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 2: Geez okay, I just said, mo, you've just increases.

1083
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 1: By gonna happen. Happen for sure. All right, I got

1084
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:18,559
nothing else talk.

1085
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 2: About, do you I'm ready to eat some pizza?

1086
00:55:22,199 --> 00:55:23,559
Speaker 1: Ready to Did you order pizza?

1087
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,639
Speaker 2: No? My wife put a pizza in the oven. Little

1088
00:55:26,679 --> 00:55:28,880
like you know those ones you buy from like Costco,

1089
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,639
frozen barbecue chicken. I think it is.

1090
00:55:31,559 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: Those are the worst pizzas in the universe.

1091
00:55:33,519 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 2: Barbecue chicken will just box barbecue.

1092
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: Chicken sounds horrible, yes, but also frozen pizzas horrible.

1093
00:55:39,639 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 2: It's fine. I found one that I like.

1094
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: They're not good first of all, and they're also horrible

1095
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,639
for you because they got to put all this ship

1096
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,199
in them to like allow them to stay for Just

1097
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,639
go out, get some nice, freshly made pizza and that's

1098
00:55:52,679 --> 00:55:55,440
the way to go. All right, that's gonna do it

1099
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,320
for us. We got nothing else to talk about, but

1100
00:55:57,559 --> 00:55:59,559
we'll be back in a few days. I want to

1101
00:55:59,559 --> 00:56:03,639
do like, like you know, predictions for the PGT season,

1102
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,559
maybe talk about some stuff general, just on the poker year,

1103
00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:11,679
find the new David Coleman. Yes, we'll do that. You know,

1104
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,599
so we'll hit on all of that sort of stuff.

1105
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,039
It's it's a little bit of a weird time because

1106
00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:20,679
in my head our year is ending now, even though

1107
00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:23,559
we were already you know, eleven days into the new year.

1108
00:56:24,039 --> 00:56:25,840
So it's just it's just how we set it up

1109
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,239
on the calendar. But yeah, no big deal. So we'll

1110
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,480
be getting to that stuff. So stay tuned to that.

1111
00:56:32,199 --> 00:56:34,920
I haven't asked in a while. And if you're listening now,

1112
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:38,480
I appreciate you greatly, But leave a review. I don't

1113
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,880
think we've had many reviews on the podcast. We got it.

1114
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,440
That's one thing we definitely have to do. We got

1115
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,159
to bring back the review contest sort of thing that

1116
00:56:46,159 --> 00:56:48,400
we've been doing many are for for a long time now.

1117
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,360
So let's let's like ramp that back up and get

1118
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,280
that back going. I'm sure we have some merchant whatever

1119
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,039
that we can give out. So all right, guys, that's

1120
00:56:56,039 --> 00:56:58,159
gonna do it for us. My name is Donnie Peters.

1121
00:56:58,159 --> 00:57:00,599
His name is Tim Duckworth, and we'll talk to you

1122
00:57:00,599 --> 00:57:01,800
guys next time.

1123
00:57:02,199 --> 00:57:13,599
Speaker 2: Say yeah, brads night. Jenny Express