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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray w BZ Coostin's new radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're going to talk about White Stadium, UH

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<v Speaker 2>it's future in Boston. Delighted to be joined by Boston

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<v Speaker 2>Herald reporter Gala Caley. Hi, Gala, welcome back to Night's that.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good, Thanks for having me, UH.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that you have followed this story very very closely.

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<v Speaker 2>I have followed it, uh in the in the newspaper,

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<v Speaker 2>the UH. The Herald has has done some great coverage

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<v Speaker 2>on it. The Globe has covered it as well. But

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<v Speaker 2>it is fair to say that the publisher of the Globe,

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<v Speaker 2>Linda Pizzuti, UH, is also an investor UH in the

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<v Speaker 2>the new women's soccer program. So just trying to stay

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<v Speaker 2>with just the facts. I'm sure that we'll get callers

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<v Speaker 2>later on during this hour who want to take a

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<v Speaker 2>position one way or the other. Where do we stand

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<v Speaker 2>at this point? Now? You reported in I guess it

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<v Speaker 2>was this morning's newspaper about a protest yesterday protesting the

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<v Speaker 2>ongoing demolition of White Stadium again because they intend to

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<v Speaker 2>build this professional soccer stadium on the site. This train's

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<v Speaker 2>moving down the track. It would seem to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, demolition works started last week, so the protest

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<v Speaker 3>was basically going on while demolish work was taking place

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<v Speaker 3>behind the protesters.

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<v Speaker 2>Has has has the demolition work? I read your piece

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<v Speaker 2>in the Globe today and said that there were the

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<v Speaker 2>protesters were protesting the removal of some trees. Has the

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<v Speaker 2>demolition work on the actual physical plant of the stadium begun?

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<v Speaker 3>So right now it's more prep work for demolish and

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<v Speaker 3>they haven't begun the physical work to take down the stadium,

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<v Speaker 3>but they are on site doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Work, and there's a hearing in Superior Court on March eighteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it possible that the demolition work will actually begin

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe even be completed by time that hearing is occurring.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to me that March eighteenth is six at

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<v Speaker 2>least six weeks away.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not entirely sure on the timeline, but the demolition

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<v Speaker 3>work has taking place over the next two months, so

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<v Speaker 3>I would think that while the trial is going on,

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<v Speaker 3>there would be work going on to take down the stadium.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's basically the city taking the down the stadium

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<v Speaker 3>at its own risk. Said the Superior Court role in

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<v Speaker 3>favor of the plaintiffs, we're trying to stop the project.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it seems to me that the plaintiffs should probably

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<v Speaker 2>get into court and try to enjoin the demolition work.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason I say that is I'm just referring to

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<v Speaker 2>one of the paragraphs in your piece in Today's Globe said.

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<v Speaker 2>The plaintiffs announced this week they have filed an expanded

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<v Speaker 2>legal complaint in Suffolk Superior Court. The case is set

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<v Speaker 2>to go to trial in March eighteenth. You know, the

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<v Speaker 2>issues could the issue could be moved, set the stage

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<v Speaker 2>for us. Who are the from You know, you've covered

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<v Speaker 2>it obviously. The mayor is very committed to this. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's clear they had city council vote. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>cover the council much, but it looked like a really

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<v Speaker 2>interesting lineup. It ended up as a six to six vote.

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<v Speaker 2>One councilor, I guess was absent or chose not to

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<v Speaker 2>be there. I'm not sure which. Even if it had

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<v Speaker 2>passed seven to six, I assume the mayor could have

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<v Speaker 2>vetoed that that motion if even if it passed by

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<v Speaker 2>that closer margin.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, correct. So the council was voting on a resolution

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<v Speaker 3>which is non binding in nature. So even if the

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<v Speaker 3>council had passed that resolution, the mayor was under no,

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<v Speaker 3>she didn't have to comply with the council vote to

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<v Speaker 3>call demolition.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So I know it was a big hearing and

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<v Speaker 2>all of that, but I didn't know if there was Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so set the bigger stage. The bigger stage is that

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<v Speaker 2>there's a group that wants to renovate the stadium. I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>demolish what's there and build a new stadium. It started

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<v Speaker 2>off as a fifty million dollar project. I think you'll

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<v Speaker 2>call them today said it's up to one hundred million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars and that some people are concerned that the opponents say,

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<v Speaker 2>according to your piece, that it could eventually end up

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred million dollars. They would build a stadium where

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<v Speaker 2>the women's soccer team would play play on the stadium

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<v Speaker 2>field from March to November. I guess it wouldn't start

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<v Speaker 2>until two thousand, as I understand, a year for now

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six. Give us the argument on both sides

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<v Speaker 2>as you see it, and then I'll let you go.

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<v Speaker 2>The protesters are essentially saying, don't tear this stadium down,

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<v Speaker 2>fix it, but leave it for students in Boston, correct, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So the opponents are trying to make the case and

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<v Speaker 3>in their lawsuit that the project by transferring link to

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<v Speaker 3>a for profit group, Boston UNI's Soccer Partners, which is

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<v Speaker 3>the ownership group behind the new professional women's soccer team,

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<v Speaker 3>that would be illegally privatizing public trust land. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>their argument in the lawsuit. And the city is saying

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<v Speaker 3>that they're proceeding with the plan and that it would

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<v Speaker 3>increase use for Boston Public school students and basically rehab

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<v Speaker 3>a dilapidated stadium that's been falling apart for decades.

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<v Speaker 2>Has there been any thought I know that there's some

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<v Speaker 2>at least conversation about a soccer stadium being built in Everett.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not even up to date. Do you know where

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<v Speaker 2>that plan stands at this point?

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<v Speaker 3>So the legislature approved the Economic Development Bill which included

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<v Speaker 3>a stipulation that allows the Effett Stadium to move forward,

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<v Speaker 3>which would be the new home of the New England Revolution.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Craft Group is behind that plan, so that

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<v Speaker 3>that's been approved by the legislature to clear the way

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<v Speaker 3>to that, but that stadium hasn't been built yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Right in the discussion, Yeah, at the timetable that would

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<v Speaker 2>be a big stadium, as I understand it, that's something

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<v Speaker 2>that's what at least two or three years at best

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<v Speaker 2>in the future.

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<v Speaker 3>I would think. So yeah, So that the Boston Stadium,

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<v Speaker 3>they're trying to do demolitions for the next couple of

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<v Speaker 3>months and continue construction into early next year and get

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<v Speaker 3>it built so that the new women's team can basically

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<v Speaker 3>take the pitch by March twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 4>So my last.

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<v Speaker 2>Question, and again thank you for helping us put this

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<v Speaker 2>in context. Has there been any conversation if the Robert

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<v Speaker 2>Craft proposal to build a big soccer stadium, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's substantially substantially bigger than what White Stadium

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<v Speaker 2>would be in Effett. Has there been any conversation about

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<v Speaker 2>having the women's soccer team maybe play next year for

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<v Speaker 2>a season or two at Gillette. Soccer teams don't have

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<v Speaker 2>you know, baseball like one hundred and sixty two games

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<v Speaker 2>a year schedules. They generally play, you know, twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five games a year. I would assume that in that

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<v Speaker 2>period of the year when the Patriots are not at home,

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<v Speaker 2>there would be some dates available at Gillette. Has there

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<v Speaker 2>any conversation about that with anyone, or is it just

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<v Speaker 2>full steam ahead on this white stadium project.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think there's actually been I saw some other

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<v Speaker 3>reporting that there's been conversation about potentially using a soccer

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<v Speaker 3>deal at Boston University. I think the larger conversation has

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<v Speaker 3>been whether the new women's team should share use of

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<v Speaker 3>the new stadium and effort with the men's team of

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<v Speaker 3>having their own separate stadium built.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I it would seem to me, you know, going

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<v Speaker 2>back when the when the Bruins shared the Boston Garden

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<v Speaker 2>with minor league hockey team, the Boston Braves. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that I'm not mistaken. The Giants and the

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<v Speaker 2>Jets share a football stadium in New Jersey. It's I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder why the real I wonder why the reluctant interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Just the timing questions are interesting. Gala, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I so enjoy your columns. They when I shouldn't say,

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<v Speaker 2>your columns, your stories, the reports that you file, they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're clear, and and that's why we've asked you back

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of uh set the stage here for so

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for for being the reporter that

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<v Speaker 2>you are, and thank you so much for helping keep

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<v Speaker 2>Boston in to newspapers.

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<v Speaker 4>City great things.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're very welcome. Thanks Gayla Cawley of the Boston Herald,

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<v Speaker 2>and you read her stuff every day in the Herald,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's on top of this story. Now, what I

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<v Speaker 2>want to do is I want to open it up

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to give you folks an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>weigh in whether you're in favor or opposed to the

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<v Speaker 2>renovation or whatever you want to call it, demolition, reconstruction,

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<v Speaker 2>however you want to call it. At White Stadium. I

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<v Speaker 2>certainly think that White Stadium should be improved, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>question about that. But whether or not there should be

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<v Speaker 2>room for a women's soccer team and effort. If they

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<v Speaker 2>build the stadium they expect out there, that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a venue that might be underutilized. So let's have

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<v Speaker 2>at it. If you live in Boston and you have

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<v Speaker 2>strong feelings on it, we're going to be talking with

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<v Speaker 2>another guest. I believe at nine point thirty Lewis Eliza,

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<v Speaker 2>the president of the Garrison Torotter Neighborhood Association, And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's an interesting issue, particularly on the cusp of

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<v Speaker 2>a campaign here. This is an issue that I think

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<v Speaker 2>there are strong feelings on both sides. Our number pretty

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<v Speaker 2>simple six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty six

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<v Speaker 2>one seven, nine three one ten thirty. I understand that

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<v Speaker 2>every team would like to have their own stadium, but

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<v Speaker 2>from a fiscal point of view and also from the

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<v Speaker 2>comfort of a neighborhood point of view. The Celtics and

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<v Speaker 2>the Bruins, they each play over eighty games a year,

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<v Speaker 2>and that doesn't even include playoffs, and somehow can live

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<v Speaker 2>together and find a schedule, as do a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>professional hockey and basketball teams in different cities. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand why any team, any professional sports team, particularly soccer,

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<v Speaker 2>can't share a stadium. To me, it's it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a question of economics. One on one. I wonder what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on. Maybe you have some insights, join the conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>coming right back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>nights Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, it's an interesting story. Ironically, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Craft is the apparently the builder or will be

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<v Speaker 2>the uh, the the funder for the stadium and effort.

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<v Speaker 2>His son Josh Graft is apparently on the cusp of

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<v Speaker 2>formally announcing that he is going to challenge mayor who

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<v Speaker 2>for mayor, So this becomes a really interesting political story

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<v Speaker 2>as well. So love to hear from you, particularly if

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<v Speaker 2>you are from the you know, Franklin Park community. Is

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<v Speaker 2>this Do you see this as an upgrade to your

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<v Speaker 2>community or do you see it as an opportunity for

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<v Speaker 2>people from the outside to come in and actually turn

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<v Speaker 2>a stadium in your community or a piece of land

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<v Speaker 2>in your community into something that doesn't necessarily have great

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<v Speaker 2>benefit to your community. I think it's a fascinating issue,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly in an election year. Let me go to Phil

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston. Phil, you are first this hour nightside.

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<v Speaker 5>Go right ahead, lucky me.

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<v Speaker 6>You know this thing is going crazy. Actually I never

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<v Speaker 6>been to that stadium, but it wasn't that.

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<v Speaker 5>That was believe.

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<v Speaker 6>It was started under a guy named George Wright. Was

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<v Speaker 6>white with a multi millionaire who dedicated to the land,

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<v Speaker 6>including the zoo as they had a restaurant in that area. Also,

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<v Speaker 6>it was dedicated to the city of Boston and it

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<v Speaker 6>should be a historical landmark. I believe would not be

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<v Speaker 6>given like a little to throw at them and it

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<v Speaker 6>was non commercial, no deviation's license a CC.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that, I'm sure that all of those issues,

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<v Speaker 2>Phil will be discussed. The White Stadium has for decades

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<v Speaker 2>Boston schools, Boston Public schools, right, and so that has

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<v Speaker 2>always been the place that high school football has been played.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course the stadium has fallen into disrepair over time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the it's not as as wonderful perhaps physically

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<v Speaker 6>Down the statue liberty while we're at it. That's getting

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<v Speaker 6>some kind of old tool. But I mean, I just

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<v Speaker 6>thought you is all at traffic's going to be coming

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, people can have a little peace and choir

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<v Speaker 6>with a few trees, a few old trees. And why

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<v Speaker 6>can't they enjoy your working all day paying the bills

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<v Speaker 6>for the stuff, and what do they do? None of

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah again, I I what part of Boston do

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<v Speaker 6>Philm I live about ten miles from there, roughly that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually Russindale, Okay, fine, well whatever the point is, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not being impacted directly, but you have empathy for people

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<v Speaker 2>who are being impacted directly. And again when you read

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<v Speaker 2>the piece in the Boston Herald today, clearly there was

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty significant demonstration yesterday. And yes, the demolition is

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<v Speaker 2>going on, and that's happened in a lot of communities.

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<v Speaker 2>You had, you know, runway expansions at Logan Airport, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>forty fifty years ago, when the people in East Boston said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we got too much air traffic noise. Now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>rolled over, They got rolled over. And it happens a

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<v Speaker 2>lot there was they were going to run the big

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<v Speaker 2>uh they we're going to have, you know, an extension

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<v Speaker 2>that you have all of these fights, and what happens

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<v Speaker 2>is each community gets separated. It's interesting that you're the

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<v Speaker 2>first person calling having empathy for your neighbors ten miles

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<v Speaker 2>away in Boston. And I think that that that's credit

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<v Speaker 2>to you, a credit to you. But I would hope

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<v Speaker 2>to hear from folks who are more directly impacted, so

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<v Speaker 2>they can talk about what it means to them. They

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<v Speaker 2>do have a golf course down in Franklin Park, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's not going to be impacted by this. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the stadium, and of course there will be and

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people in Boston look at

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<v Speaker 2>this and say, look, this is our stadium. We've paid

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<v Speaker 2>taxes for years and years and years, and now some

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<v Speaker 2>group with deeper pockets is coming in. So okay, I mean, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know again that that's an irrelevant issue because I

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<v Speaker 2>would assume that that people will be able to if

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<v Speaker 2>they want to go attend the games, they'll be able

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<v Speaker 2>to buy tickets, drive there, et cetera. No I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta run here because they want to get one

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<v Speaker 2>more in before my break is always thanks, question called

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<v Speaker 2>thank you good night. Let me go to Mike in Boston. Mike,

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<v Speaker 7>Welcome, Hi Dan, how are you? We've talked off and on.

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<v Speaker 7>We share a high school alma made together and I

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<v Speaker 7>played my high school football there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that goes back when we were there in

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<v Speaker 2>the eighties, seventies, seventies. Okay, go ahead, I didn't play football.

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<v Speaker 2>In high school, I played hockey and baseball, So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 7>Go ahead, I played hockey and baseball too. Anyway, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>grew up in Jamaica. Plane this this thing makes no

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<v Speaker 7>sense at all. I mean, it's an ego trip.

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<v Speaker 4>Here.

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<v Speaker 7>The mayor is trying to raise taxes and then spend

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<v Speaker 7>one hundred million dollars on a stadium that doesn't make

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<v Speaker 7>any sense. And why don't they use the model that

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<v Speaker 7>the women's professional hockey team did. They're playing up at

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<v Speaker 7>Lowell because they couldn't support at this juncture a new rank.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's just an ego trip. And if you know

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<v Speaker 7>Linda Henry, you know who has an ownership interest, so believes,

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<v Speaker 7>and let's get her husband a stroke of check. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>it just makes no sense on any front to spend

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<v Speaker 7>the taxpayer dollars for. And I don't live in Boston anymore,

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<v Speaker 7>so it doesn't affect me. But she's out trying to

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<v Speaker 7>raise taxes and the community doesn't want it. And you

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<v Speaker 7>know it's funny. I had summer jobs with the NBC

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<v Speaker 7>in Franklin Park and it's and it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 7>beautiful area. But it's not that easily accessible. And if

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<v Speaker 7>you look at it any infrastructure situation, you know, accessibility

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<v Speaker 7>is the key. Look at all the money they had

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<v Speaker 7>to spend and roote one in Foxborough. Uh uh uh,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, to to finally get Jillette Stadium somewhat workable.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's it's kind of sad to see a power

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<v Speaker 7>play like this in the backs of the citizens of Bostin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I don't know what the cap of

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<v Speaker 2>a newly constructed or a newly refurbished, however you want

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<v Speaker 2>to characterize that stadium would be. But if they're gonna,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say, have a stadium of even modest size, which

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<v Speaker 2>would be fifteen thousand, I don't know what the capacity

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<v Speaker 2>of White stadium is. You would know better than I

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<v Speaker 2>since you played football there.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't, But it's not that much.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm no, I understand that. But what I'm saying is,

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<v Speaker 2>you build a stadium let's say, let's say fifteen or

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thousand. That's about the size of the seating capacity

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<v Speaker 2>at the Garden, right, But I gotta tell you, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know where you're gonna put fifteen or twenty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>cars in the Franklin Park area. There's a zoo that

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<v Speaker 2>runs there. I don't know what time of day, what

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<v Speaker 2>days of the week they're gonna have games. It's and

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<v Speaker 2>of course.

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<v Speaker 7>The has the garden has creator rail and rapid transits

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<v Speaker 7>so people can park their cars in and indoor.

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<v Speaker 2>Parking, indoor parking. They obviously are parking with street exactly.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's just it's just not a great location. And

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, just to you know, if they're talking ninety

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<v Speaker 7>million dollars now that it's going to be more than

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<v Speaker 7>ninety million dollars. And I just I feel bad for

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<v Speaker 7>the citizens because I think this mayor is quite naive

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<v Speaker 7>and we'll see where it all goes.

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<v Speaker 2>And well, I don't know that she's naive. I think

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<v Speaker 2>quite the contrary. I think that she makes other mayors

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<v Speaker 2>look like, you know, wilting Flowers. I mean, she she

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<v Speaker 2>rolls over people who disagree. Look what happened in the

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<v Speaker 2>North End, uh, Look look what has happened elsewhere. And

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta tell you that she she what, she gets

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<v Speaker 2>what she wants. Hey, I got to break away, unfortunately, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>because they got a special CBS News report coming down

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<v Speaker 2>to this plane crash. Tonight smaller plane crash in Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep on on top of with this and anytime we

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<v Speaker 2>touch it, you give us a call. Okay, Thanks Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>With Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we are now joined by Lewis. Elisa Lewis,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Night Side. How are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 8>Good evena I'm fine?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you doing great? You have been active in

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<v Speaker 2>the Boston neighborhood communities for how long?

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<v Speaker 8>It's about fifty years. I've been with the Garrison Try

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<v Speaker 8>to Navorate Association and the Frankent Bark Correlation since nineteen

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<v Speaker 8>seventy eight. We started in both at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell us about from your perspective. We spoke earlier

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<v Speaker 2>this hour with Gayla Cawley of the Boston Herald The Reporter.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something about this set of circumstances that doesn't quite

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<v Speaker 2>feel right to me. Has anyone thought about having the

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<v Speaker 2>women's soccer team play out at the Gillette Stadium couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years until that soccer stadium is built over in Everett.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, the understanding is there have been a number of

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<v Speaker 8>discussions about alternative sites. It's not just Everett, but you know,

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<v Speaker 8>Solgeant Field and over at Harvard, over bu you know,

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<v Speaker 8>places where they have a lot more seating capacity and

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<v Speaker 8>where they have transportation, and they're not creating such a

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<v Speaker 8>major negative externality on the surrounding communities. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 8>why they want to try to stick it into a

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<v Speaker 8>historic park. This park is by Omstead Glaus Omstead. It's

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<v Speaker 8>over one hundred and some years old, It's on the

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<v Speaker 8>National Historic Registry. And it seems like they don't have

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<v Speaker 8>a concern that what they're doing is that they're destroying,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, a treasure that's a part of the city

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<v Speaker 8>of Boston, not Gesture, Dorchester and Jamaica Plane and Rocks

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<v Speaker 8>Ray for the city of Boston. It's a historic landmark.

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<v Speaker 8>But they seem to care a little about it. And

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<v Speaker 8>this may have seemed dead set to give this team

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<v Speaker 8>opportunity to create an entertainment center. Some of it may

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<v Speaker 8>beat the soccer, but rest of it is entertainment at

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<v Speaker 8>the expense of everyone who lives in the community.

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<v Speaker 2>So what will they do? I mean, it seems to

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<v Speaker 2>me that their goal is to demolish White Stadium. That

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<v Speaker 2>demolition's underway, am I correct Lewis?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, they've set up They've not taken down any walls,

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<v Speaker 8>but they're doing the preparation. The problem is not just

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<v Speaker 8>the demolition of a building that is a monument also

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<v Speaker 8>as part of the Art deco of the serties, but

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<v Speaker 8>they want to destroy one hundred and forty eight mature

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<v Speaker 8>trees and for whatever reason, has nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 8>them being able to play soccer in the stadium. So

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<v Speaker 8>we're trying to figure out as a community, why are

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<v Speaker 8>they destroying the fauna and the floral you know environment.

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<v Speaker 8>Why are they taking away mature trees that also add

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<v Speaker 8>to the quality of life in terms of air filtration,

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<v Speaker 8>and you know, they can't be replaced. They don't have

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<v Speaker 8>enough space to replace the trees that they're trying to

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<v Speaker 8>take down, So it doesn't make sense. We're not sure

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<v Speaker 8>it has anything to do with soccer anymore. It's just

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<v Speaker 8>that they want to give a gift to a bunch

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<v Speaker 8>of millionaires because they're not thinking about the people in Jamaica.

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<v Speaker 8>Plain a rock Ferry.

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<v Speaker 2>Lewis in terms of taking down trees, I haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>on a site survey, but I'm very familiar with Franklin Park.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to Franklin Park Zoo and all of that, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>bet you the word that is reality is what's prompting

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<v Speaker 2>the removal of the trees. Is one word parking.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I hope not, because their footprint for White Stadium

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<v Speaker 8>is small, and so if they're taking down trees and parkland,

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<v Speaker 8>they're violating Chapter ninety seven of the State of Public

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<v Speaker 8>Parks Land. And I know that everything that they're doing

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<v Speaker 8>now is different than the Franklin Park Coalition, in the

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<v Speaker 8>community groups and others that came together to file a

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<v Speaker 8>lawsuit against them, the own state Conservancy in Garrison Trotter.

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<v Speaker 8>We brought the lawsuit because they were threatening parkland. They

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<v Speaker 8>said they weren't, and so the Judge Ellison, she would not,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, allow us to have a twoper restraining order.

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<v Speaker 8>Now they're taking, clearly taking two full acres of parkland

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<v Speaker 8>and at the tint of use for parking, it's not

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<v Speaker 8>allowed by the state law. And so I really think

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<v Speaker 8>that the Attorney General and the Auditory and you know,

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<v Speaker 8>the Secretary of State and some of the others, the

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<v Speaker 8>Secretary Environmental Affairs should be questioning what's going on here

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<v Speaker 8>because this is egregious land taking and what they're proposing

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<v Speaker 8>if it's for parking. This would be totally against the

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<v Speaker 8>law as established within the commonwealths Lewis.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that there's a hearing or it's actually the

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<v Speaker 2>case is set to go to trial on March eighteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to me that by March eighteenth a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of damage can be done through demolition. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>it's time to perhaps go back into court and with

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<v Speaker 2>some evidence of of what's being done to the trees

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<v Speaker 2>and also the arrival of the demolition equipment, that the

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<v Speaker 2>judge might decide to reconsider her denial of her preliminary

426
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<v Speaker 2>injunction because clearly there will be irreverable harm being done

427
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<v Speaker 2>if they're able to proceed with the demolition and the

428
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<v Speaker 2>removal of the trees before the trial even starts.

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<v Speaker 8>You're absolutely right, there's no question in lovable harm we've done.

430
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<v Speaker 8>You cannot unbeat the drum or put the genie back

431
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<v Speaker 8>in the bottle. To remove these mature trees, one hundred

432
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<v Speaker 8>and forty eighty of them, would be devastating to the

433
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<v Speaker 8>environment just in general, just for the quality of life

434
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<v Speaker 8>or just the quality of the air within the in

435
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<v Speaker 8>the area. But you know what we asked the city

436
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<v Speaker 8>to do. We ask the city council to step up

437
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<v Speaker 8>and represent the concerns of also this subaultment because while

438
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<v Speaker 8>the park is in seven District seven and in roxbory

439
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<v Speaker 8>Dorchester in Jamaica Plane, it serves the city, it's the

440
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<v Speaker 8>regional park. It's the park with the that serves the region.

441
00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:03.960
<v Speaker 8>I mean, this is a park that has the golf course.

442
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:06.720
<v Speaker 8>I mean what they're doing is not just devastating the

443
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<v Speaker 8>white stadium area, but the place stead which is used

444
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<v Speaker 8>for hundreds of events throughout the year. And I think

445
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<v Speaker 8>the Mayor's cone death and I think those city councils

446
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:17.400
<v Speaker 8>who just sit on the side and act like they

447
00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:20.279
<v Speaker 8>have it has no impact on them are not representing

448
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<v Speaker 8>their constituents very well because the course of this thing

449
00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:27.039
<v Speaker 8>is far exceeding anything that's necessary to rebuild a stadium

450
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<v Speaker 8>for the use of children. So we're clear that this

451
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<v Speaker 8>is not about children, this is not about athletic sports

452
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<v Speaker 8>in our public schools. But if the judge will hear it,

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<v Speaker 8>I would hope that that the members of the Rocks

454
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<v Speaker 8>of the Franklin Park Defenders group that are trying to

455
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<v Speaker 8>get the judge to reconsider in the first place, would

456
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<v Speaker 8>go back and ask for another order to say until

457
00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:49.480
<v Speaker 8>there's clear understanding of what this impact is going to be.

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<v Speaker 8>Now that they've gone past the footprint for a white

459
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<v Speaker 8>stadium and they're in chapter ninety seven, you know there

460
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<v Speaker 8>should be a halt of this because there's still just

461
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<v Speaker 8>fundamental things that have not been clarified, particularly there talking

462
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.480
<v Speaker 8>and the transl tation plan. It's not even close to

463
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<v Speaker 8>being finalized.

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<v Speaker 2>Lewis, you're you've been a great spokesman for causes in

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<v Speaker 2>this city for many years, and you you're a great

466
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<v Speaker 2>spokesman tonight for it. I the more I look at this,

467
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<v Speaker 2>the more questions I have, and you've raised more issues

468
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<v Speaker 2>in my mind. And I've got to tell you, I

469
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<v Speaker 2>don't know who your lawyers are.

470
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<v Speaker 9>I don't know if you're the folks who you're working

471
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<v Speaker 9>with are able to hire, you know, a big Boston

472
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.079
<v Speaker 9>law firm or something like that, or if one of

473
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<v Speaker 9>these big loss of Boston law.

474
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<v Speaker 2>Firms would do some pro bono work. There may be

475
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<v Speaker 2>some some lawyers in Boston who are listening to us tonight,

476
00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:47.359
<v Speaker 2>And it would seem to me that this is a

477
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<v Speaker 2>if if simply one Superior Court judge has said no,

478
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<v Speaker 2>if that superior Court judge is not willing to reconsider

479
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:59.200
<v Speaker 2>a change in circumstances, then I would try to appeal

480
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<v Speaker 2>it and if necessary, go through what's called the gatekeeper

481
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Statute at the State Supreme Court and get it up

482
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:08.559
<v Speaker 2>in front of a single justice of the Supreme Court. Again,

483
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:12.720
<v Speaker 2>the city has plenty of lawyers in their legal department,

484
00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:18.480
<v Speaker 2>funded by taxpayers from your community and other parts of Boston.

485
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:21.839
<v Speaker 2>It seems to me that that you guys are getting

486
00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:25.279
<v Speaker 2>rolled over here, and just on the point of just

487
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:28.200
<v Speaker 2>absolute fairness, I'm concerned about it. Let us do this, Lewis,

488
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<v Speaker 2>Let's stay with me for a second, and let's for

489
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<v Speaker 2>a few minutes, and let's see if some listeners want

490
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:37.480
<v Speaker 2>to chime in on this. I looked at the story

491
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:40.640
<v Speaker 2>in the Herald today. I looked at the Globe. Was

492
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:44.160
<v Speaker 2>there a story in this protest in the Globe today?

493
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:46.599
<v Speaker 8>Yeah? There was something was something about there was about

494
00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:49.640
<v Speaker 8>two thousand and three dozen people out yesterday in the

495
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:52.400
<v Speaker 8>freezing cold. You know, because there's a commitment coming from

496
00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:55.200
<v Speaker 8>all quarters of the communities, not coming from one neighborhood,

497
00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:57.200
<v Speaker 8>come from people are far away, right.

498
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<v Speaker 2>So it's good that it's good that the Globe readers

499
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:02.480
<v Speaker 2>as well. I mean, it's a it's a it's a

500
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:06.960
<v Speaker 2>it's a great picture, uh, in the that Nancy Lane

501
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:10.559
<v Speaker 2>took in the Herald today, A company Gala Cawley's story.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll take a break if you'd like to talk with

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<v Speaker 2>Lewis and Lisa six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty,

504
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<v Speaker 2>six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Lewis has

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<v Speaker 2>taken on many fights during his career here in Boston

506
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:24.240
<v Speaker 2>on social justice issues, and I suspect he sees it

507
00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:29.279
<v Speaker 2>very clearly as just another one of those fights. I

508
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:32.039
<v Speaker 2>think that the story needs more publicity, and that's why

509
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.519
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about it tonight. I hope you join the conversation.

510
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<v Speaker 2>It may not affect you if you don't live in Boston,

511
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:42.559
<v Speaker 2>but uh, it's a it's a question of fairness and equity,

512
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:45.119
<v Speaker 2>and at this point, those people who are standing on

513
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.480
<v Speaker 2>the cold yesterday, they get, in my opinion, the short

514
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:50.799
<v Speaker 2>end of the stick back on Night's side right after

515
00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:52.799
<v Speaker 2>this six one seven, two, five four to ten thirty

516
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<v Speaker 2>six one seven nine three one ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World

518
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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>So my guess Is Lewis. Elisa Lewis is a community

520
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:09.079
<v Speaker 2>activist in Boston for many years president of the Garrison

521
00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Trotter Neighborhood Association, and they are opposed to the demolition

522
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:19.119
<v Speaker 2>of White Stadium in the construction of a soccer stadium

523
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:24.480
<v Speaker 2>for the use of a new female soccer team that

524
00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:30.039
<v Speaker 2>has been granted a team in Boston with us. Now

525
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<v Speaker 2>friend of many years in someone who's a big advocate

526
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:38.160
<v Speaker 2>for schoolboys sports himself, quite an athlete, former NHL player

527
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:41.759
<v Speaker 2>Paul Stewart who lives down the Cape. Stew I hope

528
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:44.039
<v Speaker 2>you don't mind you introducing you, but I want to

529
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:46.440
<v Speaker 2>get you because it touches on a subject I know

530
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:48.359
<v Speaker 2>you're concerned about. I want to get your credentials in

531
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<v Speaker 2>front of the audience. Go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I spend many many years every Friday afternoon watching

533
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<v Speaker 10>my dad coach Boston English as we played at White Stadium.

534
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:05.680
<v Speaker 10>I remember in the springtime my dad's baseball team tryouts

535
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:09.400
<v Speaker 10>were always asked. I think that would be the south

536
00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:12.960
<v Speaker 10>end of the stadium as well. They had track and field,

537
00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:17.480
<v Speaker 10>and I think back to when the Patriots were thinking

538
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:20.240
<v Speaker 10>about they had been over at BU they were thinking

539
00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:22.880
<v Speaker 10>about trying to take over White Stadium, and that was

540
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:25.839
<v Speaker 10>shot down because of the fact that my dad told

541
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:28.319
<v Speaker 10>me this that there was a fund called the George

542
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<v Speaker 10>Robert White Fund who had financed the stadium when they

543
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<v Speaker 10>first built it for the benefit of the students of

544
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:42.039
<v Speaker 10>the city of Boston. In fact, in the mid seventies,

545
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:47.039
<v Speaker 10>a Northeastern University who had played at Perkins Field in Brookline,

546
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 10>which was half during a half grass. They eventually dropped

547
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:54.480
<v Speaker 10>their football program because they couldn't get a stadium. They

548
00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:59.039
<v Speaker 10>tried to get the White Stadium and that was rejected

549
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<v Speaker 10>because this schoolboys stadium. I guess the the uh, the

550
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:10.559
<v Speaker 10>entire way the documents were set up was only for

551
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:13.440
<v Speaker 10>the students and the children of the city of Boston.

552
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was. It was. It was probably a charitable

553
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:20.359
<v Speaker 2>trust which probably existed this day. By the way, people

554
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>who don't remember Northeastern football, they had some pretty good

555
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.440
<v Speaker 2>football players coming out of there, including a tight end

556
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<v Speaker 2>by the name of Dan Ross.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul, say hello to Lewis, you I know where your

559
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:33.440
<v Speaker 2>heart would be on this, Lewis. This is a friend

560
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:37.039
<v Speaker 2>of mine, Paul Stewart, and he's someone that you guys

561
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:40.480
<v Speaker 2>should probably talk to because because he understands the history

562
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:42.680
<v Speaker 2>of this this facility.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I grew up in Dorchester and Jamaica playing and

564
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<v Speaker 10>as I say, I was at White Stadium quite often.

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<v Speaker 10>And the fact of the matter is that if the

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<v Speaker 10>soccer team the one side of the stadium not suse

567
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 10>the neighborhood, the other side was gutted by fire. And

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<v Speaker 10>the fact is that if this soccer team wanted to

569
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<v Speaker 10>utilize the stadium with the stands as is, refurbished them,

570
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:16.160
<v Speaker 10>put maybe new benches, seats in and such, and utilized

571
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<v Speaker 10>it for a year or two until the other soccer

572
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:22.440
<v Speaker 10>stadium is built out by the old racetrack. I think

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<v Speaker 10>that that would be appropriate because the refurbishments that they

574
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<v Speaker 10>would have very similar to what the Whalers, the Boston

575
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:34.359
<v Speaker 10>Whalers did in seventy two when they came in and

576
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:38.480
<v Speaker 10>assisted with the with the with the rebuilding of the

577
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:43.079
<v Speaker 10>Boston Arena. So, yeah, come use our stadium, fix it up,

578
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:45.720
<v Speaker 10>use it, but you're not going to be here for long.

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<v Speaker 4>And that to me because the students and.

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<v Speaker 10>The children of the city of Boston really should own

581
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<v Speaker 10>that place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's what that is. What Lewis said, Lewis,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to comment and what Paul had to say,

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<v Speaker 2>he's obviously in.

585
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<v Speaker 8>Your bawlings one, which is and he's spot on. And

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<v Speaker 8>then you know, when I came to Boston back in

587
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<v Speaker 8>seventy two, they were programs and activities going there. And

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<v Speaker 8>I've always lived on Stever Street or Hutchon Street, but

589
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:13.039
<v Speaker 8>now I've been on sever Street for more than fifty years,

590
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:15.280
<v Speaker 8>and I can tell you there are programs and activities

591
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:17.239
<v Speaker 8>that happened there on a regular basis. Stay up for

592
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:20.280
<v Speaker 8>school boys, school girl activities. It's been the center of

593
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<v Speaker 8>activity and sports for all the memorial games, of Thanksgiving,

594
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:26.719
<v Speaker 8>classics and things of that nature. The idea that this

595
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<v Speaker 8>mayor wants to take it and turn it off to

596
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<v Speaker 8>a private concern is no longer being a stadium. It's

597
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:33.440
<v Speaker 8>not becoming an entertainment center, which I think is what

598
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:36.039
<v Speaker 8>they want to But the impance is is it supposed

599
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:38.480
<v Speaker 8>to be for the students in Boston public schools. They

600
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:40.920
<v Speaker 8>want to take more than one hundred million dollars and

601
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<v Speaker 8>give it over to a private concern, and they're not

602
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:47.199
<v Speaker 8>trying to maintain the track, you know, But we don't

603
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:50.480
<v Speaker 8>have a complimentive plan to track and fee a layout

604
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:53.559
<v Speaker 8>the part of the stadium that was by fire, the

605
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:56.039
<v Speaker 8>east wing of the stadium, that's the school departments that

606
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<v Speaker 8>they're going to take it over. In the west wind

607
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<v Speaker 8>the UNS Boston UH Soccer. He said that they were

608
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<v Speaker 8>going to pick it up. But what they want to

609
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<v Speaker 8>do is tuned in into you know, a box seats

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<v Speaker 8>and lucky you know, lucky cheers and both positives. That

611
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<v Speaker 8>does not service the children's public, does not give anything

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<v Speaker 8>to apthletic programs in Boston, which definitely indeed of a

613
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<v Speaker 8>professional field called it's not about all children.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Lewis, Lewis, hold on, I got another call. I

615
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:31.039
<v Speaker 2>do want to take ste you said, you said a

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<v Speaker 2>lot in a brief period of time, you know, the.

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<v Speaker 4>One or two. I just wanted to add to it that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, come use our stadium and add to it

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<v Speaker 4>very similar to what happened. You know, I played golf

620
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<v Speaker 4>at Franklin Park and we had my dad's tournament there

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<v Speaker 4>for years. And the fact is that you know that

622
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:59.440
<v Speaker 4>course is derelicted Donald Ross Course, and you know Bill

623
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<v Speaker 4>Flynn was leased the course and they fixed it up

624
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:05.159
<v Speaker 4>and now it's back into the spot where it should

625
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:08.000
<v Speaker 4>be in the hands of the neighborhood, and some great,

626
00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:12.000
<v Speaker 4>great golfers have come out of there. We had Chechie

627
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:14.920
<v Speaker 4>Rodriguez there, we had Tiger Woods when he was an amateur,

628
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:17.519
<v Speaker 4>coming and give lessons to the kids. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>that this could be the same formula. Don't also forget

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<v Speaker 4>that UH Mascot tried to take over East Boston Stadium,

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<v Speaker 4>very similarly built, same design, and yet for some reason

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<v Speaker 4>it was also uh a property that didn't belong to

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<v Speaker 4>anybody but the students and the children of the city

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<v Speaker 4>of Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think both you gentlemen agree. I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>can get you together at some point. If either one

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<v Speaker 2>of you need the other's number, let me know. Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to get one more in. Thanks friend, always

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<v Speaker 2>great to.

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<v Speaker 4>Talk to you here, Yes, mister president.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks to thank you much. Ben, Thank you appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>By bye bye, Mark, I got you in here under

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<v Speaker 2>the wire, buddy.

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<v Speaker 5>I've become very disenchantic with Michelle who It's as if

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<v Speaker 5>she has turned into a dictator before our very eyes.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, there's this controversy over what Wright Stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yep, that's what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean Nickerson Field it be you would have

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<v Speaker 5>been a perfectly good alternative closer to public transportation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're the second person. You're the second person who

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned that. Mark. I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 5>And there's the dispute over outdoor seating in the North End,

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<v Speaker 5>and I suggested a compromise just one row of two

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<v Speaker 5>person table. But I seem to have been entirely ignored.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're not special that a lot of people feel ignored, Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>So join the club. All right, Mark, you got it

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<v Speaker 2>in and I got you in late, but but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>running late here and I gotta wrap it up on

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<v Speaker 2>the stand.

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<v Speaker 5>And thanks for taking my paw.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome. Thank you very much and made some great

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<v Speaker 2>points in a brief period of time. Thanks Mark Lewis.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for the fight that you are carrying on.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's anything that I can do for you, Rob

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<v Speaker 2>will give you my direct line.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you, Thank you for Thank you for the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 8>And what you're doing is most important. Keep getting people

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<v Speaker 8>to understand this isn't about Dorchester or rock Heery to

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<v Speaker 8>make a plain, this is about the city of Boston.

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<v Speaker 8>People who play golf here, people bring their kids to

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<v Speaker 8>the zoo. People love, frankly part but people who love

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<v Speaker 8>and appreciate Frederick law On set. This is an historic

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<v Speaker 8>landmark that is being destroyed and with little or no

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<v Speaker 8>thought about what the long term benefits will be for

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<v Speaker 8>the children of the city of Boston. They're families and

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<v Speaker 8>the students.

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<v Speaker 2>Well said Lewis. Great to hear your voice. It's it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds as strong as it ever did. And in a

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<v Speaker 2>dispute like this, you tend to be on the side

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<v Speaker 2>of the people and on their behalf. I thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for doing it. If I can be of any helps you,

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<v Speaker 2>you let me know. Rob will give you my direction.

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<v Speaker 8>You so much and keep the word thank Thanks Lewis.

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<v Speaker 2>We will hang there and Rob will give you my

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<v Speaker 2>direct line in case you need to reach me. When

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<v Speaker 2>we come back. We're going to change topics, lighten up

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, but actually an important topic Valentine's two

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<v Speaker 2>days two weeks from today, creating happy and healthy relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk with a couple's therapist, the licensed

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<v Speaker 2>couple therapist, how you can bring some of the joy

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<v Speaker 2>back into your marriage if some of it has somehow disappeared.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be talking with Carolyn Sharp,