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Speaker 1: Well thanks for having me on guys. I am Bennett
Speaker 1: from Broadcasting Seats podcast and you can find me in
Speaker 1: all the usual places. I am still on YouTube, which
Speaker 1: in this day and age is almost impossible, but uh so,
Speaker 1: still on YouTube, but you know all the places where
Speaker 1: audio is done and I'm trying to get rumble you
Speaker 1: know on there set up but uh I'm in it.
Speaker 1: But it's you know, it's a it's another chore.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of opinion that has to deal with
Speaker 3: In my opinion, it really is.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not hard, it's just another thing to
Speaker 1: upload too, so you know, but all the regular places
Speaker 1: and uh yeah that's about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how long have you had your YouTube channel?
Speaker 1: For now, so that this one is about this one.
Speaker 1: So this is our fourth have four podcasts right now,
Speaker 1: but the broadcasting seeds I've had since like August. But
Speaker 1: I've been in this game eleven years, ten years, eleven years.
Speaker 1: I'm not not with like this. I was. I had
Speaker 1: other podcasts and I had a podcasting network years ago,
Speaker 1: so since like twenty fourteen ish, but I I I'm
Speaker 1: out of most of that's it's a who New World Man,
Speaker 1: Holy World, only life, you know. So this is what
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to do, and this is what I'm
Speaker 1: just this is what I'm doing. Too old screw around anymore?
Speaker 1: Good for you?
Speaker 3: Oh so it's definitely an O gene this stuff as well.
Speaker 1: I've been doing it a bit, not well necessarily, but
Speaker 1: I've been doing it so well.
Speaker 3: I understand that same here, I guess for as long
Speaker 3: as I've been around. Yeah, So tonight, when I did
Speaker 3: come across you, I did see that you also had
Speaker 3: the red heifer as a topic once, and we have
Speaker 3: covered that before a while ago, and it has been
Speaker 3: something it was a weird synchronicity actually is that I
Speaker 3: think when I came across the idea to have you
Speaker 3: on for that I had even thought. I was like,
Speaker 3: whatever even happened? Like, in my opinion, from one moment,
Speaker 3: I think we covered it on the Occult Rejects for
Speaker 3: some reason. I'm almost positive there was like something done
Speaker 3: that led us to believe that there was a certain
Speaker 3: amount of time left and the motherfuckers against slaughtered and
Speaker 3: what happened. Yeah, So I have been thinking about like, well,
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure, I don't know. It just seems
Speaker 3: weird that we haven't heard anything. So I guess maybe
Speaker 3: it's a good time to even bring that up at
Speaker 3: some point in the show too, whereever the funck happened.
Speaker 1: But well, I mean the bottom line is is, uh,
Speaker 1: everything kind of went quiet after October seventh with the
Speaker 1: Moss when they had stated that they had attacked. Part
Speaker 1: of the reason was because of the Red Hifers. Yea.
Speaker 1: So well, that being said, it's it's hard to it's
Speaker 1: hard to know what's real right now, like what is
Speaker 1: actually because I mean, it's as little as really there
Speaker 1: hasn't been a lot of news, not not good news.
Speaker 1: Everything's spotty, so it's hard to know where we're at now.
Speaker 1: With that being said, last week, I think well so
Speaker 1: last week, today's the what for?
Speaker 2: I don't even know.
Speaker 1: The third is the third of April, So the twenty
Speaker 1: first was actually the Sabbath of the redhifer. So in
Speaker 1: my mind, if I was to be the guy in
Speaker 1: charge of Zach pricing red heifers, that would be the time, right,
Speaker 1: But who knows, who knows if that happened. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're they're saying there's there's some news that they don't
Speaker 1: have a eligible heifer anymore out of the five that
Speaker 1: were brought from Texas, right, uh, but who knows. I
Speaker 1: don't really believe it. That's just my opinion. But I mean,
Speaker 1: we can go, we can start from the beginning. It really,
Speaker 1: it's up to you guys. What I mean, you guys
Speaker 1: have covered it.
Speaker 3: But oh, I could even remember everything I remember talking about,
Speaker 3: Like I even thought the ranch, like like why are
Speaker 3: they getting it from? There's so many things with this
Speaker 3: whole topic.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, well, there was a whole thing where they had
Speaker 2: genetically modified the heifers basically so that they would have
Speaker 2: you know, one red hair, right. Yeah, so there was
Speaker 2: some and I don't know, when you get into going
Speaker 2: back to the netlone them and crying out, you know,
Speaker 2: and protest against the blending of the fish and the animals.
Speaker 2: So I think there's already that I have lots of
Speaker 2: inherent problems with this, this this idea that they're doing
Speaker 2: this in regard to a certain standards that were already
Speaker 2: preset in the religion of you know, of Judaism itself, right,
Speaker 2: that speak against this, and how they're not not that
Speaker 2: they're doing it, but how they're doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the fact that they're even doing it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Now as as as Christians. As a I'm a Christian,
Speaker 1: but as Christians, why would you want to happen? That's
Speaker 1: not necessary? Bottom line? And there's so many and I
Speaker 1: call them Christian Zionists, right, I'm not trying to, you know,
Speaker 1: get anything flagged, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: that's what I think. Some of this stuff is driven
Speaker 1: by that, because why would you want to bring upon
Speaker 1: the times? Yeah, or it's it's not even that bring
Speaker 1: upon but it's it's like for for Christians though it's
Speaker 1: not necessary, we don't need this. This is Jewish tradition,
Speaker 1: it's not Christian tradition, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you know, the sacrifice that took all of our sin
Speaker 1: and or uncleanliness away was Jesus, and he is.
Speaker 2: The Misshaiak that was essentially rejected the stone that the
Speaker 2: builder refused.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 4: So yeah, if I could jump in, you guys share
Speaker 4: the Escatan from Ezekiel and Daniel. So that's that's where
Speaker 4: a lot of this stuff is coming from. About the
Speaker 4: Red Heifer is the the most prophecies from the Old Testament.
Speaker 4: Now these aren't necessarily just referring to the coming of Christ.
Speaker 4: They're also very much in reference to the end of
Speaker 4: the world as well.
Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, revelation and everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, for sure, Ezekiel really does set the tone
Speaker 4: for the prophecies coming forward for the rest of the
Speaker 4: book Ezekiel and Daniel. That's that's where you're going to
Speaker 4: find a lot of this stuff, and that flavors a
Speaker 4: lot of revelations as well. Yeah, this stuff has a continuity,
Speaker 4: and I think a lot of Christians aren't really aware
Speaker 4: of how how much similarities because of the Book of
Speaker 4: Ezekiel there are between the anti and the New Testament
Speaker 4: and the.
Speaker 1: Open Yeah, and I mean when you're talking about like
Speaker 1: Jewish Messianic expectations as well, you know, certain Orthodox Jewish
Speaker 1: groups think that the red heifer is is with the
Speaker 1: advent of the Messiah, that the idea that the tenth
Speaker 1: heifer signals the Messianic era, because that's what this would be,
Speaker 1: is the tenth heifer sacrifice, since you know the beginning, right,
Speaker 1: because you had nine in between Moses and the Second
Speaker 1: Temple destruction and seventy underhaired. Yeah yeah, and since then
Speaker 1: there hasn't been another red hafer sacrifice, right, So what
Speaker 1: are we talking two thousand years plus?
Speaker 2: Well, and when you look at the original as far
Speaker 2: as the Babylonian exile and then coming back when you
Speaker 2: go back into Babylon and you start looking at the
Speaker 2: tradition of sacrificing the heifers there, well, it was originally
Speaker 2: human sacrifice, and eventually they switched it over. But the
Speaker 2: idea was that that blood was the essential like fluid
Speaker 2: or lubricant that the years of the universe moving. So
Speaker 2: these are kind of within eschatology. These are kind of
Speaker 2: a essential function in the nature of the turning of
Speaker 2: the ages.
Speaker 1: Yes, for sure. I mean for a lot of people,
Speaker 1: it's less about uh doomsday you know type stuff. I
Speaker 1: want to about that, but like go ahead.
Speaker 4: I think in a lot of ways, the the Jewish
Speaker 4: people don't see the return of the as a dooms day.
Speaker 4: The Christians do, and they're both awaiting them to stie
Speaker 4: to come back. If anything, the Christians should be a
Speaker 4: lot more wary of they all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for for the For the Jews, it's really more
Speaker 1: about like spiritual redemption, the rebuilding of the Temple, uh,
Speaker 1: the covenant with God and peace in their view coming
Speaker 1: to the world. You know. Yeah, one could say, uh,
Speaker 1: it's an apocalyptic hope, yes, but in a positive sense, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, a template. A Temple Institute article even talked
Speaker 1: about whether the appearance of the red Heifer in our
Speaker 1: times is a forerunner of the appearance of the Messiah himself.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I think that
Speaker 1: a lot of the rabbinic I think that it's been
Speaker 1: twisted a little bit, but they think that the Messiah
Speaker 1: will perform the ritual of the Tenth.
Speaker 2: And there is some within Bob Luvovich, there is already
Speaker 2: a belief that the Messiah was born and is in hiding.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, and that's and that's what I mean, like
Speaker 1: though they'll come forward and who knows, Yeah, any of this, right,
Speaker 1: but this is all at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's it's fun to but this.
Speaker 2: Is why we do this, right pontificate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like now the Christian prophecy beliefs. Obviously. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: many Evangelical Christians, especially in the US right, are very
Speaker 1: interested in this Redheiffer.
Speaker 2: Yes, and well most of the most of the percentage
Speaker 2: of the Zionists that there are are in the United
Speaker 2: States and are like secular Christian you know, wipe the wasp.
Speaker 2: That was right, And and then you get back into
Speaker 2: what was the Bible there that they brought in under
Speaker 2: the Rockefellers that basically had all the Scholfield Bible that
Speaker 2: basically everything in the Bible had bullet points that show
Speaker 2: you how it led to zion. So they they systematically
Speaker 2: created this body of Zionists within early American culture.
Speaker 1: Yeah, strange Bedfellows.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, Well, his benefactor, I think has played a
Speaker 4: significant role on occult rejects. In fact, Nick actually made
Speaker 4: short documentary about the park that's named after his benefactor,
Speaker 4: the guy who paid him to kind of take over
Speaker 4: and put this stuff in the Moody Bible Institute. Do
Speaker 4: you remember the name of that park.
Speaker 1: I think it's yes, that's right.
Speaker 4: Samuel Utermeier. So everybody tries to associate this, uh, this
Speaker 4: character with the Rothchilds, but it was Samuel Ultermeyer that
Speaker 4: was his benefactor.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Still big time zionists, you design.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of Christians just
Speaker 1: are looking for it as an end times marker, you know.
Speaker 1: And uh, I mean their their logic goes that a
Speaker 1: third temple must be built and ancient sacrifices resume as
Speaker 1: part of the sequence leading up to the second Coming
Speaker 1: of Christ period and.
Speaker 2: The third Well there's the whole idea of the third
Speaker 2: Temple coming from the bringing the temple from the heavens.
Speaker 1: To from the heavens to the right. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, so I don't know if all of this movement
Speaker 4: on the part of Christian Zionist is coming from a
Speaker 4: place of knowledge. I think what it is is mostly
Speaker 4: you've got the Christmas and Eastern Christians who go to
Speaker 4: charge once, you know, once or twice every year, sort
Speaker 4: of listening to Fox News and understanding that somehow there
Speaker 4: are greatest ally and all the rest of the stuff.
Speaker 4: So they're not really interest did and knowing too much.
Speaker 4: But you know, the clapp if they see the red
Speaker 4: half are being burned. I mean, they won't be rude
Speaker 4: about it. But I think a lot of Christian Zionism
Speaker 4: sort of boils down to that. If you want to
Speaker 4: get into the more really scary stuff, I think you
Speaker 4: have to look at the people in the Trump administration
Speaker 4: right now, and they're sort of devotion to this stuff
Speaker 4: because it's very and they you know, again, they don't
Speaker 4: have a lot of knowledge about theology, but oh boy,
Speaker 4: are they going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think a lot of them are. They're
Speaker 1: really influenced by the administration in Israel period. Right this
Speaker 1: is the administration in Israel is the most religiously minded
Speaker 1: and or and or leaning administration that probably has ever
Speaker 1: existed in Israel. You have so many cabinet members that
Speaker 1: are just flat out kind of want this to happen there.
Speaker 1: I think the biggest reason that it hasn't been a
Speaker 1: big media frenzy at this point is that a lot
Speaker 1: of not just I'm just saying, within the religion Judaism,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of division with it, and most folks
Speaker 1: don't think they need it, So it's not a it's
Speaker 1: not it's a popular idea with the with a lot
Speaker 1: of the traditionalists and some you know, parts of Judaism,
Speaker 1: but a lot of it it's not. It's just not.
Speaker 1: And frank me go ahead.
Speaker 4: This goes back to the eighteen fifties. I think that's
Speaker 4: when you see the big schism and Judaism between this
Speaker 4: modern age atheistic secular Judaism, yes, and traditional Judaism. The
Speaker 4: great great grandfather of all secular Judaism is Karl marx Y.
Speaker 4: He's the one who the broke from the pack. But
Speaker 4: what you find is that anytime orthodox Judaism and secular
Speaker 4: Judaism want to get together, it's usually around the idea
Speaker 4: of shared victim and so this is how their society
Speaker 4: is sort of cohesive and that they can get so
Speaker 4: much support for israel Is because to the secular Jews,
Speaker 4: they say, all Jews need a reference refuge just in
Speaker 4: case that happens again. And what they're telling the messianic
Speaker 4: Jews is that now we can get our Messiah to
Speaker 4: come in into place. So between those two ideas they're thinking,
Speaker 4: you know, basically all victimhood mentality. Well, at the same time,
Speaker 4: you know, pushing the agenda forward and not being very nice, Yeah.
Speaker 2: You also have to look at the Jesuit influence within
Speaker 2: all this in regard to going back all the way
Speaker 2: to ignacious so Iola and his trip over to the
Speaker 2: Holy Land and basically talking about building the Third Temple
Speaker 2: as far back as what the fifteen hundreds. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: you know this, and and that the Jesuits being the
Speaker 2: Army of Jesus, are the military wing of the Catholic Church.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, we can't forget about Madi too, because Mahdi and
Speaker 4: are supposed to come back for the Muslims as well.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's the hidden a mom in the well,
Speaker 2: the mom Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And so I think what we're bears a
Speaker 1: striking resemblance to the Antichrists.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, yeah, but they're all opposed to one another.
Speaker 4: Right Supposedly. Now, JJ has this idea that basically all
Speaker 4: these ancient alien cargo cults are going to form together
Speaker 4: in the end times to form a massive transformer or
Speaker 4: what do you call.
Speaker 2: It, the vultron, the vulture vultron.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. I think vultrotting of the world
Speaker 4: is coming along nicely. I think they've got all their positions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the other side of this that you
Speaker 1: have to kind of look at is the is the
Speaker 1: the key players and stakeholders that are in it. Like
Speaker 1: we can look at the history of it all that
Speaker 1: we want, we can look at all the whatever, but
Speaker 1: to kind of figure out what's going on right now,
Speaker 1: you kind of have to look at who who benefits
Speaker 1: from this, right and probably the number one organization is
Speaker 1: the Temple Institute, And they're really at the heart of
Speaker 1: this whole thing, and and and their their mission is
Speaker 1: basically dedicated to preparing for the future of the Third
Speaker 1: Temple and recreating the sacred vessels drafted if they already
Speaker 1: have the blueprints, they already have already they already have
Speaker 1: a bunch of it already pre built, like a like
Speaker 1: a modular home. Right, So they also started, well they
Speaker 1: have it's run. It's part of this literally called a
Speaker 1: Raiser red heifer breeding program, right where they provide rabbinical
Speaker 1: supervision for the heifer project and they're involved in selecting
Speaker 1: and importing the Texas cavs. Right. So you've got that
Speaker 1: farm and that farmer, the Texas ranchers that did it.
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to remember, oh, Byron Stinson is the
Speaker 1: guy's name, and he's the rancher that he makes a
Speaker 1: lot of money probably this whole thing and Texas businessman.
Speaker 1: He's also a devout Christian. But those he made, you know,
Speaker 1: like two hundred and fifty grand per heifer. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I'm trying to remember. I've got numbers somewhere, I think,
Speaker 1: But either way, he made a lot of money, right,
Speaker 1: and he literally has a breeding program to create red heifers.
Speaker 1: And we had five at one point. Now from what
Speaker 1: I had heard is you had three of those that
Speaker 1: became disqualified, but that I don't know if the other
Speaker 1: two now have become disqualified or whatever. But or are
Speaker 1: they just keeping a download or let's be honest, have
Speaker 1: they already done it?
Speaker 2: Done it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Were they able to sacrifice.
Speaker 2: All of them?
Speaker 1: One of them, two of them, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And at this point it would be were probably in
Speaker 1: their best interest to do it under on the downlow
Speaker 1: because the political ramifications, the geopolitical ramifications of this are insane.
Speaker 1: But with religion and the threat of conflict, and I mean,
Speaker 1: you're just talking about the a'll just the contentious point
Speaker 1: of the Alosa Mosque, right, and you're talking about world
Speaker 1: War three and that would kick it off, no, for sure.
Speaker 2: And there are numerous underground tunnels. If there's an underground
Speaker 2: temple underneath a lock, some mask that's secreted.
Speaker 1: We know these exist.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's not even it's not even like a rumor.
Speaker 1: It's like this is we know. And that's literally this
Speaker 1: whole situation is a Pandora's box. So even outside of
Speaker 1: Hamas you're talking about, you're talking about Iran and in
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia and all of them. I mean right now,
Speaker 1: the people that are really in it are Hamas and
Speaker 1: Jordan because they're the closest folks, right and just, and
Speaker 1: Jordan has like an oversight of the Holy Land in
Speaker 1: Jerusalem for the Muslim faith, for Islam. Right, they're like
Speaker 1: the overseers of that, right, the Jordanian Church, I get,
Speaker 1: or you know, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3: So they have that.
Speaker 1: But you you know, Jewish extremists and Muslims to bene
Speaker 1: Show's throats for a thousand years, so you know, who
Speaker 1: knows it's.
Speaker 2: I think when you look at the history of it
Speaker 2: and you go back to the House of David, and
Speaker 2: David wanted to build the temple it's something he talked
Speaker 2: about in order to praise the Lord. And you know,
Speaker 2: God came to him and said, basically, you have too
Speaker 2: much blood on your hands. You can't build a temple
Speaker 2: to me because of all your war and all your
Speaker 2: pillage and all the bloodshed that you've caused. Right, So
Speaker 2: basically he prepared the way and got everything, you know,
Speaker 2: ready for his son Solomon to basically build the temple,
Speaker 2: and that then you have the rise of Solomon's Temple. Well,
Speaker 2: if you bring that forward to now, you know, if
Speaker 2: you can't have all this bloodshed on your hand, if
Speaker 2: you can't have all this pillage and all this you know,
Speaker 2: death and destruction on your hand, how are we even
Speaker 2: conceiving it as a possibility that this uh, this secular
Speaker 2: you know group that that's uh basically atheists, is going
Speaker 2: to rebuild something that is sacred in the eyes of
Speaker 2: the religious Jews that many of them say, we don't
Speaker 2: need a homeland even from the beginning, So you know, absolutely, It's.
Speaker 4: What's important to note is is this, uh, this city
Speaker 4: of Jerusalem is vitally important and uh significance for all
Speaker 4: these different things, and it's divided three parts for these
Speaker 4: three section made that way during you know, some of
Speaker 4: the worst fighting on our going on right outside. So
Speaker 4: you have to wonder if this whole thing has a
Speaker 4: more occult significance when you understand the connection between these numbers, nations,
Speaker 4: different beliefs to all sort of existing side by side
Speaker 4: in a very uneasy truth.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, and it's also interesting that this is basically, you know,
Speaker 2: from Zoroastrianism preaching of the beginning and the end. That's
Speaker 2: where we basically got this idea of end days coming
Speaker 2: into and all Judaism. If you read any of the histories,
Speaker 2: they attribute their beginnings to Zoroastrianism, and then so that's
Speaker 2: where you get all the angelic stuff and Enoch. But
Speaker 2: then you know what sprung from that, but the rejected
Speaker 2: Messiah being Christ who became Christianity probably the most successful
Speaker 2: offshoot of Judaism. And then in turn you have developing
Speaker 2: out of that, you know, Mohammad. And so these are
Speaker 2: all one one chord with three strands braided around one another.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I mean they all started in the
Speaker 1: same place, look.
Speaker 4: Right, Basically, what's interesting, what's interesting about the progression is
Speaker 4: immediately after the temple is completely destroyed. The e Ropans,
Speaker 4: didn't leave a single stone on top of.
Speaker 2: It, right, right, very burned it down.
Speaker 4: The Christians and the Jews both fled into Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 4: So in seventy a d. You had a massive population
Speaker 4: of Jews and Christians in Saudi Arabia, going all the
Speaker 4: way down into Yemen and then crossing over from Yemen
Speaker 4: into Ethiopia, which is where you get Ethiopia and Christianity, right,
Speaker 4: and so all of these different things have kind of
Speaker 4: a hidden history to most Westerners if they don't go back.
Speaker 4: I can look at the pre uh you know, pagan
Speaker 4: days of you know, Saudi Arabia, which is what it
Speaker 4: was when they fled, right, they were welcomed in because
Speaker 4: uh uh, Saudi Arabia was welcoming to Alphings. And originally
Speaker 4: they had all the gods of everybody in the area
Speaker 4: all the way around place, including Christianity and juliet As
Speaker 4: being part of this mix. And then after the takeover
Speaker 4: of the Muslims, they took everything down except for this
Speaker 4: stuff from Christianity, so it was just Islam and Christianity
Speaker 4: at them.
Speaker 2: So it really had a big deal to do with
Speaker 2: the whole Christian tourism, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, no kidding, right, Christian, And yeah, it was
Speaker 1: rough though, I couldn't imagine, I could not even imagine.
Speaker 4: Right, they were actually six mecot before uh Mohammed went
Speaker 4: around and destroyed all of them, but there's only one, which.
Speaker 2: Well, and and when you get into that whole thing
Speaker 2: of Mohammad's journey, his night journey, it wasn't until later
Speaker 2: that him going to Solomon Semple was added in kind
Speaker 2: of as an extrapolation thereof, but it was originally based
Speaker 2: around Petra, and all the original mosques face Petra, and
Speaker 2: they talk about Mohammad's grandfather when he worshiped in Petra,
Speaker 2: that they had basically three hundred and sixty five gods
Speaker 2: that they basically took and accumulate and condensed into the
Speaker 2: one that is now Allah.
Speaker 4: Especially Yeah, well Mohammad had Solomon's ring.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, allegedly yeah.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, after the collapse of this temple, let's say
Speaker 4: that they're bringing out all these different jewels and whatever
Speaker 4: because they didn't want the Romans to get to them,
Speaker 4: and then they went right down into Saudi Arabia, so
Speaker 4: very well could.
Speaker 1: Have been could have been, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's absolutely possible. I mean there's nothing, there was nothing
Speaker 1: there there, I mean yeah, I mean, and you see
Speaker 1: you can see all the ancient stuff that's down there
Speaker 1: too where they settled. And uh, it's the other part
Speaker 1: about ethiop Well, once you cross over into Ethiopia, the
Speaker 1: architecture and the stuff is unbelievable. The the carved church
Speaker 1: is right out of bedrock, yes, which doesn't even seem possible.
Speaker 4: Well, what do you know about Biblos?
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, biss yeah, Biblos. When you get in to Biblos,
Speaker 2: you looking at so Biblos was the Greek name for
Speaker 2: the city, and it was called by the Phoenicians. It
Speaker 2: was called Gibbum, which was inhabited by the Ghiblomites, which
Speaker 2: were who the king of Taiir called up when it
Speaker 2: was time to build Solomon's temple as the fine finish
Speaker 2: masons for the tent, and they were known for seven
Speaker 2: tone carving that they would do with like seven layers
Speaker 2: of carving, so they were like very specialized. They were
Speaker 2: the sacred temple builders of the time that eventually got
Speaker 2: distributed to Dionysianism into Greece and developed all the Greek
Speaker 2: architecture we see now, you know, so that, but these
Speaker 2: temples going from Taiir with the green and the gold
Speaker 2: to Solomon's. It's always been about these two temples, are
Speaker 2: these two pillars going back to Egypt with the real
Speaker 2: white and then the Phoenicians with the green and the gold.
Speaker 2: And so you see this idea of these two sacred
Speaker 2: pillars that have to do with the Tree of Life
Speaker 2: and all this esoteric philosophy and the entering into the
Speaker 2: temple in regard to that transition from the east to
Speaker 2: the West and the west to the East, which gets
Speaker 2: into a lot of you know, esoteric philosophies.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Right, but I think it's important to note that, you know,
Speaker 4: they would be ejected to in that sort of stiege
Speaker 4: of Jerusalem, so all of that knowledge is being transferred
Speaker 4: directly down through uh uh, you know, Saudi Arabia out
Speaker 4: through Yemen, and you've got that same sort of influence
Speaker 4: taking root over there and Ethiopia as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, allegedly they have the arc, right they say
Speaker 1: they do, but who knows at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: because what's the last thing that we've heard about the
Speaker 1: arc is that it's where Jesus was crucified that the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and that so Gogatha. When you get into that,
Speaker 2: there's a whole storyline of them removing the remains of
Speaker 2: Adam from the Cave of Treasures, bringing it over on
Speaker 2: the arc. And I have some issues with that because
Speaker 2: it wasn't written until like around six hundred a d.
Speaker 2: So you know, you kind of But nonetheless, the home
Speaker 2: of the remains of Adam was said to be on
Speaker 2: that hill where Jesus was crucified, being Golgatha. And and
Speaker 2: according to the Jewish rabbinical like writings, they say that
Speaker 2: when when they brought the body there, it was with
Speaker 2: Melchizadek and the earth opened up and Adam's remains went
Speaker 2: into the center of the earth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well mainly palmer Hall says that the tree
Speaker 4: of Life in the Garden of Eden was cut down
Speaker 4: when they needed the would for Noah's art, and that
Speaker 4: Noah's art was then used to construct across the Christ.
Speaker 4: So you've got this sort of anytime you see these
Speaker 4: different symbols in the Bible, just start tracking them back,
Speaker 4: because that there's a whole seme there too.
Speaker 2: So the rod of Aaron, right, if you trace that back.
Speaker 2: Then he threw down and it turned into a serpent
Speaker 2: chased that back. That's supposed to be the branch that
Speaker 2: Eve brought out of the garden of Eden, you know, allegedly.
Speaker 2: It's all I love that word. You know, it's some
Speaker 2: good storytelling though.
Speaker 4: It's very much Moses. Moses with the staff in the
Speaker 4: in the wilderness with the snake on it, and then
Speaker 4: Jesus saying, just as the serpent was lifted in the wilderness,
Speaker 4: sociality sent a man be lifted up. So he's making
Speaker 4: a direct reference back to that.
Speaker 1: Where where just the question where do we think? Uh?
Speaker 1: Mount Sinai is like, because there's there's like.
Speaker 2: Five of them, right, just like Mount Ida mounts going
Speaker 2: back into the ancient.
Speaker 1: So I I've been to Egypt. I lived there for
Speaker 1: a year. So I went up one of the Mount
Speaker 1: Sinai's right, I climbed it and it's pretty amazing, and
Speaker 1: I got this incredible feeling. There At the bottom is
Speaker 1: what's called Saint Catherine's Monastery and it's the longest inhabited
Speaker 1: or manned i should you know, inhabited or manned monastery
Speaker 1: Christian monastery in the world and it's been continuously manned
Speaker 1: by Christian monks since like six hundred something like that,
Speaker 1: like saying, right through all the different Muslim invasions and everything,
Speaker 1: it's gone. And that's where part of the Sinai Bible,
Speaker 1: the Codex, I don't even remember what it's called. Part
Speaker 1: of it's there, part of it's in Germany because the
Speaker 1: German guy that was looking at it stole part of it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we got to tour that place and it's
Speaker 1: just amazing, like all throughout you know, I mean, thousands
Speaker 1: of years of history and that's allegedly where the Burning
Speaker 1: Bush is and I got to see that. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Who knows if it's the Burning Bush, but it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It's kind of the whole thing. But I can tell
Speaker 1: you at the end of the day, there is a
Speaker 1: energy that you can feel through that whole thing. And
Speaker 1: when you get to the top, there is a very
Speaker 1: small chapel up there, and you just get this this
Speaker 1: feeling like you know, in America, it's one thing right
Speaker 1: like you, but there's this sense of history when you're
Speaker 1: over there that's just like holy hell. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: So I think to kind of because we're where we
Speaker 1: at around forty minutes in and back to the red heifer.
Speaker 1: Like what this whole I guess kind of like wrapping
Speaker 1: about a little bit around some of this stuff is
Speaker 1: you have this convergence of factors on why why is
Speaker 1: this even happening? Why is this a freaking thing to
Speaker 1: so many people? Right? And what I've deduced down is
Speaker 1: basically because since twenty twenty three to now specifically, you've
Speaker 1: got several threads of convergence, right, and the fact that
Speaker 1: the cows exist is huge. Haven't really had any really
Speaker 1: good contenders that there's been. I think there was one
Speaker 1: back in twenty eighteen and before that, I can't remember
Speaker 1: exactly when, but to get five prospects all at one
Speaker 1: time that the cows exists, and you're talking about the
Speaker 1: first time in two thousand years that this has even
Speaker 1: been an idea, right or a possibility. So after years
Speaker 1: of effort, suitable heifers actually found and brought to Israel.
Speaker 1: Because that's a big part of it too, is you've
Speaker 1: had others that they never brought them tangible development that
Speaker 1: prophecy watchers could really just lash onto, like, oh, cows exist, right.
Speaker 1: Then number two would be the political climate and Israel's government,
Speaker 1: like we had talked about earlier Tilts Tilts so far,
Speaker 1: they're the most religious nationalist government that Israel's ever had,
Speaker 1: pure sure, So that gives Temple activists a sense that
Speaker 1: maybe this is our chance, right, maybe this is our
Speaker 1: our window of opportunity at least to prepare right. And
Speaker 1: so that's kind of what the Temple Institute is done.
Speaker 1: So regardless of whether this happens right now, they're prepared
Speaker 1: for it now. Yeah, so something has been accomplished. Right
Speaker 1: then on number three, then you have this global fervor,
Speaker 1: and they did a really good publicity job. I mean,
Speaker 1: they just did How many podcasts have you seen? Almost
Speaker 1: every podcast that I know has covered this at least
Speaker 1: once and many some many times. The bottom line is
Speaker 1: that there's been a serious uptick, noticeable ride an apocalyptic chatter,
Speaker 1: and has been for a while. Between the pandemic pandemics
Speaker 1: say it like that, the wars in Gaza, Ukraine, you know,
Speaker 1: general turmoil just in general, with inflation and all this
Speaker 1: stuff across the globe, Many people and especially evangelical communities
Speaker 1: of all of all elk I feel the end times
Speaker 1: must be near.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, well you have like Tom Horn and
Speaker 2: Steve Quail within the religious fundamentalism, you know, and they
Speaker 2: basically have a podcast prophecy in the news. They interpret
Speaker 2: the current news in regard to how it relates to
Speaker 2: biblical prophecy.
Speaker 1: I mean the Christian Zionists. Yeah, that's what I'll call
Speaker 1: them again, and that and that whole narrative is actively
Speaker 1: pushing this. And like prophecy groups, I mean they exist now,
Speaker 1: ministry websites, podcasts just like you had said, places like CBN,
Speaker 1: Charisma News like this, stuff that existed before, but not
Speaker 1: like this. It's different. And with the collapse of mainstream media,
Speaker 1: some of these have picked up the mantle, right, and
Speaker 1: and everyone's out there looking for prophecy. Yeah, well see
Speaker 1: YouTubers everywhere.
Speaker 2: But also when you get into eschatology, you know, and
Speaker 2: you go back to the Book of Enoch, which is
Speaker 2: all based around sevens he talks about the fact that
Speaker 2: it's a seven thousand year calendar from the beginning, and
Speaker 2: then you have the rise of Judaism and they say
Speaker 2: it's a six thousand year calendar, and within that that's
Speaker 2: six thousand year calendar according to the Jewish diaspora. We're
Speaker 2: currently in the year five thousand, seven hundred and eighty five,
Speaker 2: so we have, you know, right around two hundred years
Speaker 2: left before they blow the show far and revelations happens,
Speaker 2: and you know, so we're they're approaching the end of
Speaker 2: their calendar prophetically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we just had a shift over in
Speaker 1: the in the Hindu calendar as well, from or the
Speaker 1: what do they call it, the Vedas, the Caliyuga, the
Speaker 1: Caliuga that was literally two days before the the Sabbath
Speaker 1: of the heifer, right heifer. So it's like you had
Speaker 1: this convert You've got these convergences that everybody's well, I'm
Speaker 1: paying attention to.
Speaker 2: Now and around the same time. I mean, granted it's
Speaker 2: been a decade or so, but you also have the
Speaker 2: whole idea of the Mayan calendar twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, remember right, crazy, Yeah, it's like Y two K
Speaker 1: but different, you know, but that.
Speaker 2: Was all being pushed by the Esselent Institute, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: intelligence and you know, culture creation.
Speaker 1: You know, absolutely. I was overseas during Y two K.
Speaker 1: I was in Bosnia when when the when the clock
Speaker 1: rolled over, and everyone was all I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm living in the Stone Age right now anyway, So
Speaker 1: what that hell is the difference? Yeah, you know, but
Speaker 1: you know, you get these you get these eras. There's
Speaker 1: always every every culture, every time has their own prophetic drama, right,
Speaker 1: and so so this is just ours right now. It's
Speaker 1: U plus let's be honest. The Israel's got some messianic aspirations.
Speaker 1: They just want, you know, this messianic expectations that are
Speaker 1: just the you know, with the peace with the Abraham
Speaker 1: Accords and things like that, it's giving them a lot
Speaker 1: of breathing room. And they moving the embassy to j Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and there's all kinds of stuff going on. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, we I can't remember the name of that
Speaker 1: one podcast there's there is a podcast where they talk
Speaker 1: about seems like they want war. They're they're on the Jewish,
Speaker 1: their Jews. They're really like pushing like this war type.
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily war, but it is and and you know,
Speaker 1: gz is what it is, right, But like, I don't
Speaker 1: people don't understand. I've talked about this in other places.
Speaker 1: But there's an entire so that was in the military
Speaker 1: for ten years. There's an entire brigade worth of infantry
Speaker 1: troops right sitting on the border between Egypt and Israel.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that are foreign. A whole battalion of American
Speaker 1: people don't know this. They have no idea, even though
Speaker 1: it's public information.
Speaker 2: International exchange.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called well, no, it's called the it's called
Speaker 1: them the Multinational Force and observers. They say it is
Speaker 1: from the Dayton Accords. It's it's a you know, it's
Speaker 1: a peace treaty. And they sit and they literally watch
Speaker 1: the border between Egypt and Israel to make sure nobody
Speaker 1: breaks this treaty. And they've been there for since the
Speaker 1: seventies or eighties, early eighties. But you have so you
Speaker 1: have a battalion of Americans, you have a battalion of Colombians,
Speaker 1: and you have a battalion of Fijians. Like no Fiji
Speaker 1: even had an army. But either way, you know, so
Speaker 1: it's like, I but I hear, I hear a lot
Speaker 1: of this like, uh, you know, rattling, saber rattling, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, you guys can talk ship over
Speaker 1: the troops that are staying like you know, it's like
Speaker 1: they're lobbing, you know, rotten apples over the line of
Speaker 1: cops that are you know what I mean, I mean.
Speaker 4: The down played how much influence the U N has had,
Speaker 4: Oh God, And I think I think that's what you're
Speaker 4: talking about. This this un influence has put so many
Speaker 4: different people from so many different parts of the world
Speaker 4: on so many different places in Israel that doesn't even.
Speaker 1: Talk about that doesn't even talk about Mount Hermon.
Speaker 2: And so I was just like, you have a base
Speaker 2: on her Hotel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have a U N base literally sitting on
Speaker 1: top of it. And that there and that's again I say,
Speaker 1: peacekeepers right on top. And you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: we can go actually for biblical with that.
Speaker 2: Ship as far as that's where the fallen angels came
Speaker 2: and landed.
Speaker 1: I mean there's temples that also where Jesus went up
Speaker 1: to Heaven. Correct, there is so many different things that
Speaker 1: happened there. Like that's the center in my opinion, it's not.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jerusalem is what it is, right, but at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, that's the epicenter. Is that
Speaker 1: is that whole area on the Syrian Israeli border, you
Speaker 1: know Lebanese, that whole border.
Speaker 4: I have an interesting story about that area. Go ahead, man,
Speaker 4: so My dad went out to visit Israel last year
Speaker 4: and he went out to that gol On Heights type area, yep,
Speaker 4: and he saw a mound out there that was called
Speaker 4: Gilgal Rafaim. Gilgal Rafayem is one of these tombs to
Speaker 4: the Nephalom. Yeah, real close to that Mount Hermon area.
Speaker 4: And you've got Ogg's tomb toog is not anything to
Speaker 4: you know, slap chat. You got to get King. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so all that stuff is really tightly grouped around that
Speaker 4: Mount Harmoney.
Speaker 1: You have the Temple of the Giants that's there, hold on.
Speaker 4: And the top it's in Syria too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess King Aug they said, if you
Speaker 2: go back into it was a fourteen hundreds Jewish text
Speaker 2: they talk about he hopped on top of the arc
Speaker 2: and basically rode across through the flood, bringing the line
Speaker 2: of the Nephelon into the modern times.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right. You also have a Tempo of the Giants
Speaker 1: in Malta that nobody ever talks about.
Speaker 4: But either way, Cyclopian architecture all right, So the the
Speaker 4: Greeks were asked by the Romans who built all these
Speaker 4: massive structures, and they're like, it's the Cyclopsis, right, and
Speaker 4: so the Greeks called the Romans called the Cyclopean architecture.
Speaker 4: That's that's the name that's stuck ever since.
Speaker 1: They and they have it in South America too. It's
Speaker 1: almost for.
Speaker 2: Sure same symbols too with the battle creatures.
Speaker 1: There's no correlation between these cultures. It's zero, right, It's
Speaker 1: crazy either way. Yeah, the Temple the Giants is some
Speaker 1: place I've always wanted to go. The one in in
Speaker 1: why Man, I want to go to the one in Multitude,
Speaker 1: but the one in uh in Syria or it's it's
Speaker 1: literally on Mount Herman. It's just not up on the peak,
Speaker 1: it's down one of the grades.
Speaker 2: But this is all the land of Canaan And yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, for sure the Canaanites. Yeah, and they were
Speaker 2: the Canaanites were credited with the Cyclopean structures. They were
Speaker 2: the Cyclopean builders.
Speaker 1: You know, right now, do we think that the Canaanites
Speaker 1: had I mean, I don't know what your guys.
Speaker 4: Is, who were the sites before they were Canaanites.
Speaker 2: Right, doesn't Until ham came in and started the process
Speaker 2: of introducing the gods in the religious worship and took
Speaker 2: a simple people and turned them into like a religious
Speaker 2: social force that they basically moved into Egypt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well they were they were Minoans before they were
Speaker 4: Canaanite Phoenicians, and that's when all the architecture and all
Speaker 4: of the all of the archaeology points z. They went
Speaker 4: from the Minoan civilization during the time of you know,
Speaker 4: Troy and well before the time of Troy, and they
Speaker 4: were the most advanced civilization on the planet at that time.
Speaker 4: And then they were taken over by the Greeks or
Speaker 4: the what were they called back then. They weren't to
Speaker 4: Helens yet. They weren't to Helens yet. Yeah, right, But anyways,
Speaker 4: you've you've got that period of Greek history.
Speaker 1: And Helen Greek history right right.
Speaker 4: They moved over into Crete and closer to where they
Speaker 4: ended up, which is in Phoenicia. So they took that
Speaker 4: progression there and so all of the stuff that's happening
Speaker 4: in Canaan came from the most advanced civilization in the
Speaker 4: world at that time. It probably had connections all over
Speaker 4: the New World. Like it's very much a you know,
Speaker 4: archaeological wonder that all of this copper came into Europe
Speaker 4: and the copper minds just aren't there the copper minds
Speaker 4: are in.
Speaker 2: Michigan, right that they worked for somewhat twenty thousand years basically, and.
Speaker 4: So all of this Bronze Age happened because the Phoenicians
Speaker 4: are importing this stuff from Michigan, and the Phoenicians this.
Speaker 2: Puzzle, right, the Phoenicians settling Carthaginian cities being tied in
Speaker 2: related to Troy being the you know, it all ties
Speaker 2: back to Phoenicia and Syria in regard to that those
Speaker 2: those cultural thought forms that became the mystery schools.
Speaker 4: Essentially, Carthage cannot be overlooked in this because Romean war
Speaker 4: with you know, the clinic wars against Carthage of their
Speaker 4: child sacrifices. Yes, this is what they would always get
Speaker 4: up in front of the Senate and say is like,
Speaker 4: ladies and gentlemen, I'm once again telling you we need
Speaker 4: to go wipe these people out because they're killing their
Speaker 4: kids in mass Well, no it wasn't called like what
Speaker 4: was it called?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: But Balham what was his consort of ball wash is
Speaker 4: the triangle?
Speaker 2: It okay?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: So where you where was Samarmis in there?
Speaker 4: That was their two primary gods. You can find all
Speaker 4: the top its the seal of Tanat, and it's just
Speaker 4: that triangle with circle and it looks like some child's drawing.
Speaker 4: All of the toughens were where they took their children's
Speaker 4: ashes and put them in these boxes and prayed to
Speaker 4: Tannat because she was the goddess of fertility and child sacrifice, socrifice.
Speaker 3: And take out.
Speaker 4: What they would do is offer their first born sons
Speaker 4: to tan Neat. Who does that sound like Abraham? Abraham
Speaker 4: had to go take his son out to the top
Speaker 4: of the cliff and then sacrifice. And well guess what, Yeah,
Speaker 4: the Catadites were the only other civilization on the planet
Speaker 4: that circumcised. Yeah, it was only these two at this
Speaker 4: time period that were circumcising. Now, why would the Canaanite
Speaker 4: circumcise unless they thought that they had to deal with
Speaker 4: God God?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, and there is a lot of ancient
Speaker 2: researchers that have basically traced that sacrifice and believe that
Speaker 2: he did indeed sacrifice his son, and that later they
Speaker 2: brought the scapegoat in in the thicket and did a
Speaker 2: little switcheroo for sanitizing the text to make it a
Speaker 2: little more Pallata way.
Speaker 4: Well, the canaidides get a lot of crap in the Bible.
Speaker 2: A lot of a lot a lot. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So there's there's this interesting dynamic when you realize how
Speaker 4: closely related they are, you know, and who they come
Speaker 4: from and where they came from and all the places
Speaker 4: they produced. Like, there were a lot of Jewish people
Speaker 4: in Carthage. That was one of the major factions there.
Speaker 4: And Carthage was the most metropolitan, inclusive, liberal progressive city
Speaker 4: in the time period. So they had people from all
Speaker 4: over the place. And guess what they had the most
Speaker 4: of slaves. They were a slave empire.
Speaker 2: Right, what does that sound like.
Speaker 1: Everyone? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I mean who did who owned all the
Speaker 4: slave ships?
Speaker 2: Yoh well, I know, I know, yeah, you know, and
Speaker 2: who ran the banks that financed the slave ships?
Speaker 4: And Carthage had a lot of land holdings in Spain.
Speaker 4: They were like right across from each other. This is
Speaker 4: one of the reasons why the Romans won the Punic Wars.
Speaker 4: Is as Hannibal is destroying all of Rome, the Romans
Speaker 4: decide they're going to leave and go over to Spain
Speaker 4: and destroy all of Hannibal's land holdings over there. And
Speaker 4: so they killed, raped and robbed so much in Spain
Speaker 4: that it caused Hannibal to leave because the entire Carthaginian
Speaker 4: army with him, right, And so basically they.
Speaker 2: They attributed that to bringing the goddess Kibbli into So
Speaker 2: they're basically bringing the origin of what uh who was
Speaker 2: it wrote there in regard to linking Rome to Phoenicia
Speaker 2: as far as Virgil in his writings. So you know,
Speaker 2: they then then they bring the Southeast Asian goddess into
Speaker 2: Rome and basically attribute that to driving Hannibal out.
Speaker 4: They canadite aify their culture.
Speaker 2: Sure, and it was unacceptable. It was, it was abominable,
Speaker 2: and they had to keep it on the hill mostly.
Speaker 2: And then as it progressed and became more accepted, they
Speaker 2: started to allow the cult of Addis to go out
Speaker 2: and do their their their dance and their blood dances.
Speaker 4: Citizens weren't allowed to participate in the self colt at all,
Speaker 4: not at all. That was only reserved for slaves, right.
Speaker 2: And it was like we were talking about the Torablerium
Speaker 2: and the Cryobrium. The Torabrium was when they incorporated Addis
Speaker 2: uh In in with Mythrius into Kybel. But then the
Speaker 2: the Cryobrium was where they sacrificed the Ram that was
Speaker 2: to replace the castrations. So it was Rome's way of
Speaker 2: ending the blood rights.
Speaker 4: That's very interesting that they would go with the Ram
Speaker 4: as the form of the castration because the Ram was very.
Speaker 2: Back to Abraham and the age of the Ram and
Speaker 2: Abram and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly age of the Ram. So very important to
Speaker 4: understand these different ages as it applies, because that's.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, we.
Speaker 4: Age of prices is the end all be all of ages,
Speaker 4: but all this stuff is happening in these different segment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, bottom line as we don't know ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when it comes down to you know, the more you know,
Speaker 1: the less you actually know. I mean it's like because
Speaker 1: we go down like it's so it's we can go
Speaker 1: down so many rabbit holes. Yeah, so it's like what
Speaker 1: the what does that even mean? Right? Like like stuff
Speaker 1: that's blown my mind lately. Well, you know, it's stuff
Speaker 1: that I've known for a while, but then I've seen
Speaker 1: real research on it, like guys like like Doc Brown,
Speaker 1: Justin Brown with his seed the seed Satan seed, the
Speaker 1: whole seed war, right, I mean La Marzouli's been talking
Speaker 1: about that stuff for ever thirty freaking years. But but
Speaker 1: Doc Brown like dug into some shit with that, that
Speaker 1: kind of you know, And he just had a guest
Speaker 1: on the other day. I wish I remembered his name.
Speaker 1: That blew my mind too. The other thing that's intriguing
Speaker 1: considering we're talking about the little effort of the little
Speaker 1: the red Hiffer is the little season shit and and
Speaker 1: that's a whole nother rabbit hole. I mean, that little
Speaker 1: season stuff. Eh, I don't really believe it per se.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, some good points
Speaker 1: are brought up right well that it wouldn't shock me,
Speaker 1: I guess. Is what I'm saying is like if if
Speaker 1: we were unveiled, then we were able to see the
Speaker 1: truth of all of it, it wouldn't shock me that
Speaker 1: we're in the Little Season, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Well, when you look at the Dartarian stuff about the
Speaker 4: Little Season, that sort of expands into a massive other thing,
Speaker 4: and I think there is some sort of a timeline
Speaker 4: issue going on.
Speaker 1: Oh I would agree. I would absolutely agree. And there
Speaker 1: is a as we know, there's something going on with
Speaker 1: lost technologies right for thousands of years. I mean, they
Speaker 1: didn't build the Pyramids with freaking they didn't cut the
Speaker 1: those stones with with bronze and chicken bones and whatever other.
Speaker 1: They want the copper for the no freaking way, bro
Speaker 1: not granted, not granted, not a eighty ton block of granite.
Speaker 1: You're not You're not doing that with copper and some.
Speaker 2: Of that stuff. Yeah, some of that stuff they're bringing
Speaker 2: from five to six hundred miles away for certain parts,
Speaker 2: most of it, you know, but some of it, yes,
Speaker 2: as far as the chamber, the interior chambers, and you know, I.
Speaker 1: Mean you're talking about stone blocks from from ten to
Speaker 1: eighty tons.
Speaker 4: Yeah, in the precision, in the precision that we have matched,
Speaker 4: we can't do it now.
Speaker 1: I mean, we could probably figure it out, but not
Speaker 1: to that skit. This is the thing. This is the thing.
Speaker 1: Even and I can't remember what it was in La
Speaker 1: a few years ago, they moved that one stone from
Speaker 1: point A to point B and I think that was
Speaker 1: a thirty ton stone. They had to build a special
Speaker 1: trailer to carry it around it, right, And then it's
Speaker 1: like it's since that's absolutely insane. So I used to
Speaker 1: work in the nuclear industry too, and we have you know,
Speaker 1: nuclear generators, right or the The turbans that go into
Speaker 1: these freaking plants are massive. That and the trucks that
Speaker 1: they come in on are you know, there's a driver
Speaker 1: in the back of the truck to like independently drive
Speaker 1: the trailer, drive the trailer and drive the drive the
Speaker 1: wheels right, And so they had to do something like that.
Speaker 1: And that was for one freaking stone.
Speaker 2: And then well, and then you look at Ballbeck and
Speaker 2: those that's a two trinity stones. Yeah, a two hundred
Speaker 2: ton stone.
Speaker 1: You know there's three of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cycle trinity stones. Yeah, the idea of cyclopedean.
Speaker 1: So I just can't there's one and I'm trying to
Speaker 1: remember the guy if if I knew we were going
Speaker 1: to go here, there's that one. There's a stone and
Speaker 1: it's in Egypt, and it's in one of the Egyptian museums.
Speaker 1: That's it's partially cut right, so it's you can see
Speaker 1: where they it's precision where they cut it. But they
Speaker 1: never cut all the way through the stone. So there's
Speaker 1: this one piece that hangs off like this and it's
Speaker 1: precise all the way down, and you're talking a big stone,
Speaker 1: and there's no way that they're doing that, no way.
Speaker 1: It's insane there. So I'm sick and tired of the whole.
Speaker 1: I don't even think people are lying necessarily. I think
Speaker 1: we're just freaking ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I think we just it's so misunderstood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's and and we've forgotten so much that
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, we can't remember ship from
Speaker 1: one generation to the next. I mean, most people don't
Speaker 1: even know who their great grandfathers were. You don't most
Speaker 1: people have known the freaking clue. Yes, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, so we don't know. Again, what can
Speaker 1: I say? I gotta have a T shirt made for
Speaker 1: my Website's like, we don't know. Shit, we just don't.
Speaker 3: Wasn't there I didn't see it?
Speaker 1: Right? So so yeah, I mean I love all this stuff.
Speaker 4: There's something really interesting about the Golden Age, the idea
Speaker 4: of this Golden Age, because in the Greek society was
Speaker 4: when the Titans ruled and it was it was Crodos
Speaker 4: and Reya and that was the Golden Age. And when
Speaker 4: you read about it, it's like, this doesn't sound that great.
Speaker 4: But I guess you know, people in the Golden Age
Speaker 4: there were no women and there was no work, right,
Speaker 4: there was no work anything you wanted would be handed to.
Speaker 2: You, and milk and honey flowing from the ground.
Speaker 4: Would they would when they slept, they would go to
Speaker 4: the underworld and then be completely renewed, and then they
Speaker 4: would come back to the surface and that was their
Speaker 4: life because you know, there was no death, so you
Speaker 4: were dreaming was your death. And what's interesting is in
Speaker 4: the Greek you've got the two brothers, Hypnos and Thattatose,
Speaker 4: and Hypnos is sleep and his brother is death. So
Speaker 4: the idea of sleep and death sort of go hand
Speaker 4: in hand. Yeah, it's just show and we're seeing now
Speaker 4: that there's sort of a return to that sort of
Speaker 4: style of medicine because part of how the Greeks would
Speaker 4: treat patients is they would have these catacomb type places
Speaker 4: where you would go and lay down in the underworld,
Speaker 4: like going into the NBA, right, and they would have
Speaker 4: these snakes and the esclepian that would represent the shedding
Speaker 4: of one's skin and being renewed, and so when you
Speaker 4: would sleep down there, you would come back to the
Speaker 4: surface with you know, a renewed sense of vision on
Speaker 4: how to cure yourself.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: So a lot of this Golden Age talk from Donald
Speaker 4: Trump really echoes of that Saturnian you know. I mean
Speaker 4: they all worship Saturn, That's what said for sure, they
Speaker 4: want the Golden Age back. They're kind of culled this well.
Speaker 2: And and Saturn is essentially Chronos, and then if you
Speaker 2: trace Chronos back, he's directly related to Mulloch. So you
Speaker 2: have this this you know change.
Speaker 1: I mean if you go and even into like modern
Speaker 1: day religion with Islam, that that black stone, it has
Speaker 1: something to do with Saturn, right right, that all about
Speaker 1: that Golden Day go around all the time, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: trying to find this documentary thing that I just watched.
Speaker 1: They yes, they are well.
Speaker 2: And on the corner of the cobblestone you have that
Speaker 2: silver vagina with the meteorites in it. You had inherently
Speaker 2: you have so many of these religions that have links
Speaker 2: with these meteorites falling from the sky and and the
Speaker 2: worshiping of these black stones.
Speaker 4: You know, Kyberie was a black stone that they would
Speaker 4: carry the street exactly.
Speaker 2: And when you get into Addis. In the Birth of Addis,
Speaker 2: it was Jupiter Zeus that came down and tried to
Speaker 2: get it on with Mother Rhea, who was represented by
Speaker 2: a stone which was ky Bell or Kibili, and in
Speaker 2: his excitement, you know, he deposited some semen and then
Speaker 2: sprung forth Addis and addis you have you know, Phrygian
Speaker 2: mysteries arise out of that, and then in Siri you
Speaker 2: have Adonis and Aphiditee coming out of that, you know,
Speaker 2: And so all of this stuff kind of ties in
Speaker 2: with this dead and resurrected god form that the Hebrews
Speaker 2: kind of represent as the mishag or this this this
Speaker 2: savior that's going to die and be reborn.
Speaker 1: I mean, they all rhyme, all these religions rhyme, right,
Speaker 1: So I think it's the same group of folks in
Speaker 1: each one across time. I mean, and they always get
Speaker 1: replaced right by.
Speaker 4: I think you were just describing it. You were just
Speaker 4: describing it. When you were talking about this prophecy whipping
Speaker 4: up all these people into the main Ads, right, and
Speaker 4: the Maine Ads were the followers of Dionysis. You've got
Speaker 4: that same sort of frenzy, that same sort of zeal.
Speaker 2: And, uh, that divine madness.
Speaker 1: I just watched this this uh uh. It's not a documentary,
Speaker 1: but it's it's about the the s guy of Braxiss.
Speaker 2: This chicken headed gobake legs where well you know, or
Speaker 2: something along those lines.
Speaker 1: Right, it's crazy. I I had never heard of it
Speaker 1: until yesterday. Actually, so fascinating.
Speaker 4: Nick tell about the Crowley in a Braxis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he does, he does reference, he does,
Speaker 3: use him, right, use that image.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. We talked about it in this the Lion and the.
Speaker 2: Yeah that comes that comes from the dead season or
Speaker 2: the Nagamadi and the discussions on Sofia and the creation
Speaker 2: of reality and Ja hauled the bath basically being the
Speaker 2: abomination that's born during the creation, that is the god
Speaker 2: below the real god, that's the insane, crazy god.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well they talk about so he also talks about
Speaker 1: how there's like a trinity with all this stuff too,
Speaker 1: and it's the it's the it's the light Bearer, who
Speaker 1: would be Loosifer, right, and then the opposite of that.
Speaker 1: But they're both evil and I can't remember the name
Speaker 1: of the dark one. So you had the light Bringer
Speaker 1: and you had the dark One, but they're both evil
Speaker 1: and Christ is in the middle, right and yeah, right,
Speaker 1: so it's it's it's all yeah, yeah, interesting thing will
Speaker 1: break your freaking brain.
Speaker 3: The thing with the practice that you mentioned. This was
Speaker 3: something I wanted to bring up earlier, just didn't want interrupts.
Speaker 3: But it's it's kind of weird. I ended up going
Speaker 3: back to it anyway. That's kind of the The image
Speaker 3: that Crowley uses is the line of Judah, I think
Speaker 3: if I remember correctly, and that was actually it was weird.
Speaker 3: I wanted to bring it up before when you made Ethiopia.
Speaker 3: That was in Ethiopia during the time. I don't know
Speaker 3: if they still have a Solomonic dynasty now, but they
Speaker 3: did then where they actually think that whoever was in
Speaker 3: charge somehow, I guess bloodline of Solomon.
Speaker 2: Solomon, Yeah, the left right, and it's the line of
Speaker 2: midlec And and.
Speaker 3: The Nazis well, and the Nazis that Germany had Mussolini
Speaker 3: go in there and take that in the obelisk for them, right.
Speaker 1: So did you guys see that the Argentinians finally admitted
Speaker 1: that Hitler.
Speaker 2: Argentina and I posted it and Twitter put a fact
Speaker 2: check on their saying French scientists basically check the DNA
Speaker 2: and it was they determined from a tooth in the
Speaker 2: skull it was. But see I saw another study where
Speaker 2: they did it and they said it was a female Yes.
Speaker 1: So exactly.
Speaker 3: Oh and Russia. Yeah, that's just yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah that it was the female skull, wasn't even a
Speaker 1: male skull.
Speaker 3: Well, but now they say that in Hunting Hitler TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know one of the guys that was on
Speaker 1: that show, and he's like one hundred percent. There's like, dude,
Speaker 1: they were everywhere, which we know this, right, we know
Speaker 1: Nazis are there, but we know Hitler, for fact was there,
Speaker 1: and yeah, unbelievable.
Speaker 2: There's there was some declassified CAA files from probably a
Speaker 2: decade or more ago where they actually had pictures of
Speaker 2: Hitler in his older age.
Speaker 1: Yes, correct, So well, there had been a few people
Speaker 1: that had come forward and said, you know, there was
Speaker 1: only one that I can't remember his name.
Speaker 4: Somebody does imagine having the ultimate blackmail in the United
Speaker 4: States because you know, you know who's protecting him.
Speaker 1: Hit that ran everything anyway, Yeah, there's a whole line.
Speaker 2: There's a book I forgot the name of it, but
Speaker 2: it talks about how they basically blackmailed the Rockefellers and
Speaker 2: to basically give the vote within the u N to
Speaker 2: let the Balfour Declaration go through so they could basically
Speaker 2: take Israel in a you know, through the crown.
Speaker 4: What was the trade, Robbie, what was the trade?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was some kind of blackmail, if I do
Speaker 2: you remember?
Speaker 4: It was for statehood for Israel, but all since yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: they the blackmail going forward was well, no, the deal
Speaker 4: was all theirs, the scientists.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we let them live.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Our question, paper clip was our deal with Hitler. You
Speaker 4: get to live, but we get all.
Speaker 2: Of your science scientists. Yeah, that's the blackmail, at least
Speaker 2: the ones the Russians didn't.
Speaker 4: Take, right, you know, right, let's running down the middle.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Germany really did lose the war, but the
Speaker 4: Nazis won.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and they probably their right did live on.
Speaker 2: Sure, they took over i mean all of NASA and
Speaker 2: the United Nations, and they created the CIA too and
Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff. Well am I sticks and yeah, NATO.
Speaker 4: All the operation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that stuff's great. Who are the guys that do
Speaker 1: that that that are really like into that.
Speaker 2: The ghost Army.
Speaker 1: No, there's a there's two guys that have done like
Speaker 1: so much research on Gladio.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: One of them, Donut, something like that I do.
Speaker 2: I'm aware of Donut.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's him and some there's another guy too, Oh,
Speaker 1: I know, John Succi.
Speaker 3: I think has covers that.
Speaker 1: Who's who's the guy that talked about all the Hitler stuff,
Speaker 1: the Nazi stuff on I think that's what it might.
Speaker 2: You might be with his Unholy Alliance book. That's an
Speaker 2: interesting read the cult as far as the occult aspects
Speaker 2: of the Nazis.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Nuts, So you gotta look down all just all this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, I absolutely agree with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean, it's it's nuts, and
Speaker 1: I just I don't it's overwhelming. Like my wife laughs
Speaker 1: at me because I he never knows that she's gonna
Speaker 1: walk home, walk into and whether it's giants one day
Speaker 1: or you know.
Speaker 2: Uh, Nazis the next. Seriously, But that's that's the thing,
Speaker 2: is you research this stuff for so long and you
Speaker 2: have all these cohesive ties and understand and then if
Speaker 2: somebody asks you about it and you start to explain it,
Speaker 2: it's so fragmented and you sound like an absolutely psychopath
Speaker 2: because it is. It's it's so it's it's a wicked web.
Speaker 1: It is you know, crazy, Well, you know what you know.
Speaker 4: What helped me see it more clearly was the series
Speaker 4: by Bill Cooper called Babylon.
Speaker 2: What was it called the Babylon Mystery, Mystery Babylon.
Speaker 4: Series History Babylon.
Speaker 2: That series got some good stuff.
Speaker 4: It's like thirteen hours, right, but if you can get
Speaker 4: through it, it's like there's so many tightly packed pieces
Speaker 4: of evidence in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah Cooper. Uh, I think he did a
Speaker 2: good job, even though he was had some issues with
Speaker 2: all the tax stuff and you know, hustling the gold
Speaker 2: and he just does what everybody, you know, Alex Jones
Speaker 2: does the same thing as good.
Speaker 1: You know, you guys. Have you guys ever read this book,
Speaker 1: The Apocalypse of I can't even say that.
Speaker 3: Oh Jesus of yashvll No, I never heard of it, dude.
Speaker 1: It this thing made my head explode. It talks about
Speaker 1: it's like Atlantis and uh, you know, kind of like Onunaki,
Speaker 1: but not exactly. Yeah, I can't even I'm still trying
Speaker 1: to wrap my head around it. But the Apocalypse of
Speaker 1: Yahnavakola or something like that, Revelations concerning the nature of
Speaker 1: humanity and the Gods. Yeah, it's intense.
Speaker 2: I like books like that, Well, me.
Speaker 4: And Robbie covered an interesting book called the sixty eight
Speaker 4: Comvocation Rules, and.
Speaker 1: Uh, what was it?
Speaker 4: I always forget the rest of the Yeah, Rose and
Speaker 4: Laws of the Rosicrucians, which is it has the Seal
Speaker 4: of the United States fifteen years BEFO was actually put
Speaker 4: as the cel of the United States.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: It was a meeting of the Freemasons, the Illuminati, the Jesuits,
Speaker 4: and Rosicrucians all meeting together in Pennsylvania in this place
Speaker 4: where they have these giant pyramids erect and.
Speaker 2: Built the place for the meeting, and they planted the
Speaker 2: roses five years ahead of time, and they built this
Speaker 2: altar and this temple and all this stuff, and then
Speaker 2: they brought in all these groups and they recorded the lectures.
Speaker 1: What's it called the Rules and Laws of the Rosicrucians.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the sixty eight six station.
Speaker 4: You can get it for free on Goodreads or archives.
Speaker 4: And this thing talks about Atlantis. So they're talking about
Speaker 4: this ancient order being connected to Africa through uh the
Speaker 4: tip of what's that called the it's near Guatemala, you
Speaker 4: know the peninsula there, oh ten peninsula, So you had
Speaker 4: all the way over to Africa that's what they called Atlantis,
Speaker 4: and they said that there's a pyramid that needs to
Speaker 4: be brought forward in the future for them to merge
Speaker 4: the United States and Mexico because the ultimate goal is
Speaker 4: to merge the United States of Mexico. That's their spiritual home.
Speaker 4: That's what they believe in. And the Order of ketsil Quato,
Speaker 4: which is an offshoot of the Jesters, I believe is
Speaker 4: connected to dancing around and doing this pyramid of Fire
Speaker 4: ritual with the Rothschilds down in Mexico.
Speaker 2: Right. But well, you know, and then you go back
Speaker 2: to the Knights of the Golden Circle that were established
Speaker 2: in Cuba that create that radius that I think is
Speaker 2: what they're actually plotting is where that pyramid is supposed to.
Speaker 4: Be Knights Templar of the Golden Circle. Anyways, they found
Speaker 4: the pyramid. It's about two thousand feet below the surface
Speaker 4: of the water. They found it in twenty fifteen. Ye,
Speaker 4: so how do they have memory going back until there
Speaker 4: was no two thousand feet of water on top of
Speaker 4: this pyramid that they were looking for. And it's off
Speaker 4: the coast of Cuba right of that line and that.
Speaker 2: But there's also a whole lecture on the Sons of Osiris.
Speaker 2: There's a lecture on the reverse side of the Seal
Speaker 2: of the United States, which is kind of out of
Speaker 2: context in regard to all the other stuff they're talking about,
Speaker 2: which is interesting, but yeah, it's uh.
Speaker 4: Nineteen sixteen, Yeah, yeah, that's in this thing was written
Speaker 4: right before World War One, and they.
Speaker 1: Also like right before it, right right.
Speaker 4: They also tell you in there, do not take the
Speaker 4: injectable crucifix, don't take lectures.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean the bottom line is I think
Speaker 1: when it comes to a lot of this, I say
Speaker 1: that a lot. The bottom line, I think it doesn't matter. Like, again,
Speaker 1: we don't know anything, but I think it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Almost it doesn't matter what you believe, because they believe it, right.
Speaker 1: So it's like they're it's almost like they're they're manifesting
Speaker 1: some of this ship and or you know, it's just like,
Speaker 1: what is the actual hidden history, what's the hidden truth
Speaker 1: behind all this stuff? And it does it does all rhyme,
Speaker 1: it really does. You know, it's not necessarily you know,
Speaker 1: round hole, round peg, but it's damn near it.
Speaker 2: Well, you can trace these things, yeah, you can trace
Speaker 2: the lines of the assassins through all these orders, right
Speaker 2: right through the Jesuits and the Inquisition, Yes, all the
Speaker 2: miscellaneous things that they were doing, you know, overthrow and
Speaker 2: what they did the Ireland and what they did to England,
Speaker 2: and it's uh, you know, and there's a lot of
Speaker 2: in a relationship between people in place setting up certain
Speaker 2: things to precipitate you know, wars between certain nations, and
Speaker 2: you know, you just have to wonder how much it's
Speaker 2: a script, right.
Speaker 1: And that's what that's kind of what I'm getting at well.
Speaker 4: As far as line, Yeah, the through line seems to
Speaker 4: be the Rothschild. So you've got this entirely different cosmology
Speaker 4: and the way of seeing the world happening in the
Speaker 4: United States versus the way they see the world over
Speaker 4: in you know, Europe and Asia.
Speaker 1: There is definitely something to do with the bloodlines too.
Speaker 1: There's something going on there, and you know what what
Speaker 1: exactly that is, I don't know, but there's something going
Speaker 1: on there.
Speaker 4: So I think that's a lot to do with Aztec
Speaker 4: and Mayans. I believe that there's still sort of a
Speaker 4: remnant that kind of has a miss control in our
Speaker 4: governmental system. If you look at the flag of Washington,
Speaker 4: d C. It's the Mayan numeral thirteen. You've got three
Speaker 4: of these stars on top of these two bars, and
Speaker 4: that's Mayan numbers for thirteen. That was the sei of
Speaker 4: George Washington. That went back hundreds of years before the
Speaker 4: founding of America America.
Speaker 2: And when you look at the dome of the Capitol
Speaker 2: in regard to the apotheosis of George Washington with the
Speaker 2: seventy two stars wrapped around it, and then you go
Speaker 2: directly down under the floor, they have a painting of
Speaker 2: the Mayan calendar right there. Big So and the Founding Fathers.
Speaker 2: When you trace Masonic lore back, there's a whole idea
Speaker 2: that it goes back to the Quichos of the Mayans
Speaker 2: and basically moved into you know, Mesopotamia in the Middle East,
Speaker 2: and then kind of flowed back.
Speaker 4: They can't be downplayed the fact that they were acting
Speaker 4: these white people coming over with blue eyes, you know, Ketsadal.
Speaker 2: Well, what was it, uh oh, I'll think of the name,
Speaker 2: but basically, yeah, the they said he showed up, he
Speaker 2: had a white beard, and he was riding on serpents,
Speaker 2: he had blue eyes, and no, it wasn't quite it.
Speaker 1: Was I know what you're saying, and I can't remember.
Speaker 2: There's the but yeah, he also had six fingers, So
Speaker 2: now you're getting into the nephilim, right. Oh man, Yeah, I'll.
Speaker 1: Remember it like I'm trying to remember, and I'm also like, god,
Speaker 1: what would I even look in Google?
Speaker 2: Yah? Yeah, I'll think of it when we're not thinking
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 4: They had a different name for him in South America
Speaker 4: with the the you know, the Inca, but they had
Speaker 4: a similar character down there too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well that that type of character showed up in Ireland,
Speaker 2: showed up in South America, the dogon people. You have
Speaker 2: as far as the half fish, half man that that
Speaker 2: came the abomination that rose from the sea. You have
Speaker 2: this story of these uh, these almost like Myrrh type
Speaker 2: folk that come and re educate the populace of the
Speaker 2: earth in regard to weights and measures and how to
Speaker 2: build temples and bringing back in the worship of the gods.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: But I think that's sort of like the symbol of
Speaker 4: the priesthood. Yes, so from that time forward, that priesthood
Speaker 4: was supposed to represent that ideal, and in a lot
Speaker 4: of ways, you see the priesthoods all shifting what they
Speaker 4: were doing from this paganism over to this new form
Speaker 4: of Judaism and Christianity all sort of at the same time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think that's an interesting thing to notice, because this
Speaker 4: priesthood seems to be the one of the most consistent
Speaker 4: parts of our history, and the way that they change
Speaker 4: over time the beliefs and perceptions of the cultures around them,
Speaker 4: I think can't be understated.
Speaker 2: And and I think within that thought, you can also
Speaker 2: look at the sacrifice of these various bulls through time,
Speaker 2: from India into the Roman mythrus. You have the Serapian
Speaker 2: bull of Egypt that was said to be you know,
Speaker 2: killed at a certain time. You have the White Sea
Speaker 2: bull of Minnos that was scheduled to be killed as
Speaker 2: a certain So you have all these bulls, and they're
Speaker 2: they're supposed to be killed, you know, in accordance with
Speaker 2: certain seasons and signs, in accordance with the stars, you know.
Speaker 2: So this priesthood in regard to the you know, the
Speaker 2: sacrifice of these red efforts is something that I think
Speaker 2: you can trace back, like we're saying, all the way
Speaker 2: back to ancient atoll or Atlantis, right.
Speaker 4: They described a really interesting one of the proto bull
Speaker 4: rituals as taking place where, right, So go on your
Speaker 4: ritual exactly, and so that you can find in Virgils
Speaker 4: or Georgia's what they're talking about there is having all
Speaker 4: of these guys beat a bull to death inside of a.
Speaker 2: Ship, scourge them. They scourge it, Yeah.
Speaker 4: They scourge it to death, and then later on honeybees
Speaker 4: come out of the bones of that dead animal. And
Speaker 4: this is how they got their honey from. We've also
Speaker 4: got the Melissay. The Melissay was the priesthood at the
Speaker 4: oracle at Delphi besthood, so all of the female priestesses
Speaker 4: were called the melisa and they represented this sort of
Speaker 4: honey concept and also they were the ones who were
Speaker 4: doing the prophesign right, So all of this prophecy really
Speaker 4: does come back to the honey cult.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, and you trace the prophecy as far as the
Speaker 2: Sibiling oracles and all the different oracles back, you basically
Speaker 2: have a reformation and re cumulation of the Kaldean oracles
Speaker 2: and the Chaldean oracles you know, coming out of Babylon.
Speaker 4: So right, and you know, you get the symbols of
Speaker 4: ancient Greece having to do with the oracle at Delphi.
Speaker 4: It looks like a honeybee colony. Yeah, but it's the
Speaker 4: net that they they carved into it to represent the
Speaker 4: net that they used to pull this stone out of
Speaker 4: the gullet of Saturn and they get that's what ends
Speaker 4: the Golden Age is once they kill Saturn, it's over.
Speaker 2: Time begins when he throws up his children. That rock
Speaker 2: comes for because that was Zeus. Essentially they rea tricked
Speaker 2: him and gave him the stone in swaggling clothes and that,
Speaker 2: and that came out first and landed in Delphi.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's Kibali Kibli Yeah, yeah, right, that's the stone.
Speaker 2: It's it's again back to these stones, worshiping these these
Speaker 2: uh and the same thing with UH with isis ck Yeah,
Speaker 2: and creating the obelisk, you know, the dome of the Rock. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the dome of the Rock, you got it, you got it, the.
Speaker 1: Rock yep and the bull stuff, I mean, just the
Speaker 1: bull stuff goes back everywhere every single one of these.
Speaker 1: I mean even even in India, you know. I mean
Speaker 1: there's all the stuff that goes on with.
Speaker 2: And the season of the sacrifice, depending on if they
Speaker 2: were sacrificing to the Sun or the moon. It determined
Speaker 2: the different qualities of the types of bull. Like I
Speaker 2: think it was Venus, they would sacrifice a smaller, pure
Speaker 2: white bull, and you just get into all these, you know,
Speaker 2: intricacies of the means in which they are supplicating to
Speaker 2: the gods.
Speaker 1: Every single culture, ancient culture had the bowl. They had
Speaker 1: something to do with it, you know, I mean even
Speaker 1: the Celts. Everybody, very freaking buddy.
Speaker 4: All the bushmen down in Africa still do these rituals.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, these rituals are still going on in many
Speaker 2: parts of the planet as a normal daily life thing.
Speaker 4: When wealth comes down to how many sheep and cattle
Speaker 4: you own, change your perspective.
Speaker 1: On everything, right, right.
Speaker 4: I think that has a lot to do with energy fields,
Speaker 4: to be honest, I think the energy fields of raising
Speaker 4: the sheep and the cattle and being closer to the
Speaker 4: land really does change the way you perceive the world
Speaker 4: around you, I would agree.
Speaker 3: Was there anything else that you guys wanted to touch on?
Speaker 1: No, man, I think we kind of went.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2: It was a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: Keep up, keep up everyone, Uh yeah.
Speaker 3: No, no, because if not, I think that was perfect timing.
Speaker 1: Just coming back around to the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's wrap this up. When you get into the
Speaker 2: sacrifice of the red heifer. There's also a couple of
Speaker 2: places I've seen where they talked about from the last
Speaker 2: heifer that was sacrificed, they actually save these ashes and
Speaker 2: they have to do something in accordance to mixing them
Speaker 2: and anointing the next special water. Yeah, and and this
Speaker 2: all has to do with reconnecting that alter, that purification.
Speaker 1: And all that stuff. So, I mean I can give
Speaker 1: a final takeaway on the red Heifer prophecy. At the
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's a story of faith, right,
Speaker 1: They that can inspire and faith that can inflame. Right,
Speaker 1: whether you know, we were talking about war and everything,
Speaker 1: and it literally sits at this junction of hope and
Speaker 1: hazard right of and in our discussion showed that, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a mix of genuine spiritual yearning, you know, geog
Speaker 1: geopolitical chess, right. I mean we had a lot of
Speaker 1: that going on, right, and a dash of conspiracy flair, right,
Speaker 1: a little bit of a little bit of sprinkle of.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So in the end, whether you're inclined to believe this
Speaker 1: is the harbinger of the Messiah or just much ado
Speaker 1: about cows. You know, it's pretty much it's it's a
Speaker 1: pretty cool narrative. Oh yeah, how ancient prophecies continue to
Speaker 1: echo through our modern world, you know, and that in itself,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is worth talking about. Oh yeah, we
Speaker 1: just did it for an hour and a half, right.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 4: Sacrifice, sacrifice and divination always go hand in hand.
Speaker 2: Always, that's true. And that's something that you don't really
Speaker 2: hear much about in regard to the ecstatic ideas of prophecy.
Speaker 2: And and you're basically sacrificed. You using this blood as
Speaker 2: a lure.
Speaker 1: We could go down a lot of rabbit holes. That's
Speaker 1: another hour. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I think that because
Speaker 1: we brought up Crowley earlier and oh my god, but yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, you know, we could we could extrapolate on this forever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, that's what I think. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: what it's. It's sexy to do this right now too.
Speaker 1: It's just it's it gets people all, you know that.
Speaker 1: It's it's things like this that kind of make our
Speaker 1: community you know, come together too, and we do stuff
Speaker 1: like this, stuff like you know anger. So Lockwood's books
Speaker 1: and it's so far fetched. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, there's these correlations that you want to happen, right,
Speaker 1: and so.
Speaker 2: But I just question whether or not it's it's part
Speaker 2: of the natural turning or if it is a scripted element.
Speaker 1: That yes, no, absolutely, and that's that's where.
Speaker 2: We have to try and yeah, to cut the truth
Speaker 2: from the false symbols.
Speaker 4: Right. So the word symbol in Greek means sin, which
Speaker 4: is together, and a bullet, which means thrown. So all
Speaker 4: of simple is is thrown together.
Speaker 1: Thrown together. Yeah, I mean that's really what it is, right,
Speaker 1: stuff sure, thrown together and we don't know shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with this, all right, So thank you
Speaker 3: very much for all of you guys, especially you've better
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Speaker 3: Man, come on, yeah, that's all. Reminded you you're on
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Speaker 3: you all.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 3: That was a lot. That was a lot and a
Speaker 3: lot of different angles. There was even stuff that I
Speaker 3: was going to bring up that I never even got to,
Speaker 3: so I was like whatever, So I got so much stuff,
Speaker 3: but uh, that is the end and until the next one,
Speaker 3: everybody be well later