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Speaker 1: Let's I'll start to you to present off the bench

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with Jacob Hester and T. Bob Abert. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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yeah yeah, off the bench with Jacob Hester and T.

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Speaker 2: Bob Abert. I got to come off the pitch.

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Speaker 3: Now here's Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert.

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Speaker 2: What's happening, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to OTV here on one O four five ESPN.

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Wherever you're listening, maybe you're listening on podcasts, maybe you're

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Speaker 2: The future in Treeport, maybe you're.

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Speaker 1: An Alex wherever you are, Thank you for joining us

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here this morning as we get back into the flow

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of things.

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Speaker 2: You're kicking off twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: It is January second, and Elshie won their bowl game,

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and the college football playoffs just happened yesterday. We got

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three or two quarterfinal games yesterday. We will have a

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third one today. You've had three over the last couple

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of days, and let's just.

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Speaker 2: Get to the big one. I mean, there's not much

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to say on Boise.

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Speaker 1: Penn State basically played out exactly how you thought it would.

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I mean, Jake, you want to talk about looking physically different?

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Speaker 2: That was that was the.

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Speaker 1: Probably the most physically different I saw two teams look

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this entire playoffs because even SMU, who's a bit smaller

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in some areas, so he's a big in the front seven.

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I don't know, boy boy, it was just that game

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went about how you kind of thought that it would.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and when you talk about styles making fights, yeah,

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what Boise does really well, it's also what Penn State

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does an the elite level. And now you're talking about

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a power Big ten program and a Mountain West program. Yeah,

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who's a good football team, right. A lot of jokers

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out here gonna be like, no, they're a good football team.

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And if they played maybe somebody else, maybe it's a

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different story. But with what you do really well to

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what they do really well, and they've got the size

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the speed advantage, it was gonna play out exactly like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so again we were like, okay, this is

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you know, this is another game in which we have

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seen the favorite look like the favorite looked like the

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better team. And then came Texas Arizona State, and once

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again it looked to be on the surface, very lopsided.

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Texas just way bigger, stronger, faster, more NFL talent, all

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that sort of stuff. And I thought because Arizonta stated

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had the best run defense in the Big Twelve, but

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it was still like just everybody wasn't that good at

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rush defense in the Big twelve, Like it was the best,

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but it was still like one hundred and twenty yards

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a game. It was like seventeen touchdowns. So it's like, okay,

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they've been okay there, but Texas. The only way to

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beat Texas by stopping the run, forcing Quinn, you weres

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to have to throw the ball. I don't think yours

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taken to do it, and I think Texas will be

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able to U. Yeah, they think that's gonna run all

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over him. It's gonna set up Quinn. I think Texas

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rolls big, and as much Jake as much belief in

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Camp Scataboo as Jake profess and as much as I

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liked Scataboo this season, I thought it was gonna be

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too much of a hill to climb, and it looked

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like for much of the game it was. But that

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is the unbelievable nature of camp'scattaboy.

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Speaker 2: And make no mistake here.

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Speaker 1: So when we did our immediate reaction show on Snaps, Jake,

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some Texas fans of the chow were like, we'll talk

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about Texas talking about Texans getting their flowers. Texas is

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not the story here. Arizona State and Campscattaboury are credit

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to Texas. I'll give you flowers for escaping, for making

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the huge plays in overtime when you had to have them.

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There is credit there for surviving and advancing. But you

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took a team that is much more talented, had a

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big lead, and you damn near got beat by the

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closest football equivalent I've ever seen to Rocky Balboa. I mean,

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if Camp's Adaboo was not Rocky in this game, even

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down to losing the fight, right, but like eating all

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of the damage, right, what a tank eating so much damp?

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I mean the gift that was making the rounds on

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Twitter of the guy being jumped into the gang and

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it's like every time Cam'skataboo touches the ball, and it

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felt like that in the first half. But the crazy

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thing is he's like a boxer who can just eat

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the punches, eat the punches, eat the punches, and instead

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of but he could take it, and all of a sudden,

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the guy on the attack, he's exhausted and then Cam

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finding on the ground, to throw a touchdown pass, to

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have that incredible route on the go, and then and

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then the head he played the body control to catch.

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against the odds, against guys who are bigger, stronger, and

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faster and just will his team to mean just one

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playaway from and although they couldn't get it done, Cam

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Skataboo saved college football and saved the playoff yesterday afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Ye great analogy with the Rocky Balboa stuff as exactly

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what it felt like. I mean, he's just going to

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tire you out. He's gonna keep coming, He's not gonna

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shy away from it. And look, Texas, they heard all

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the talk before the game. You could tell like every

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time they tackled him, and you know they're chirping at him,

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and he's just taking it. He knows his game, he

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knows what he does really well, and he's just gonna

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keep on coming, keep on fighting, even when he drinks

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too much water too fast and starts throwing up on

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the sideline and Kenny dealing him as coach said, all right,

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puke and rally let's go. But man, how fun was

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glad that the nation got to see Cam skataboo because

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you've heard me talk about him all season. You've talked

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about him all season like he's done that all year long.

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a team and you're know Jordan Tyson's not in the game,

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he's your top receiver.

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Speaker 2: Now. Sam Levitt was awesome.

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Speaker 4: He's great, slippery and made some throws and he's gonna

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be a really good throw down scramble the I mean,

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he's a good player, so I want to take anything

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Speaker 1: But everybody had four circle, yes highlighted, had a star

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by his name the entire lead.

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Speaker 2: Into this game.

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Speaker 4: But it didn't matter because his whill was going to

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get him to exactly the point that he got to.

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just go up there try to put the team on

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his back. You said it running throwing catching in that route.

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He gave him a little stick what I'm saying, a

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little bottle, little jab step broke him down.

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Speaker 2: It was a nice Oprah shoulder catch man.

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Speaker 4: So we we you know, we have the ability and

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always blessed to do it to go down to Mobile

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for the Senior Bowl. Every single year he's going to

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be playing in the Senior Bowl. Can't wait to just

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you know, pick his brain on his mindset and you

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know how he kind of goes about his business, prepares

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for game because he was ready for the spotlight. He

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was ready for everybody to target him, right because he

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was the star players only target that they actually called

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that maybe a little bit later. But

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I'm just he's an NFL player, He's a Sunday player.

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Speaker 1: With that, I mean, with that, with that, with the

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intangibles that I saw yesterday afternoon and just the.

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Speaker 2: Sheer drive and grit. Yeah, like I'm not gonna doubt scatter.

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Speaker 4: I think dan Orlowski had this tweet against the number

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Speaker 2: Play by play basis.

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Speaker 4: Kim Skataboo led Arizona State in rushes rushing yards, rushing touchdowns, receptions,

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receiving yards, and passing touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: So again, it was as legendary of a performance as

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you ever see, and it breaks my heart they could

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not come up with that fourth and thirteen stop.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's right there.

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Speaker 1: When we talk about like the Georgia Tech Georgia game,

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who knows when you'll be back in that position. I

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think Arizona State shouture is very broadly, don't get me wrong,

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but to be right, and you had you had Scataboo

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talking that noise directly into the camera after scoring the

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overtime touchdown, Jake looking straight into the camera, talking talking crap.

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It looked like the defense was gonna come through. And

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that's where you credit Texas and you credit Quinn viewers

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for finding a way. Chase Daniel relaxed, like, Okay, you

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just just showing how Quinn uh checked it. Now to

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your point, I didn't realize this, so they ran the

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same blitz that they did before the fall start, so

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Quinn had time to think about all this, and.

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Speaker 2: I liked the aggression.

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Speaker 4: By the way, on State, A lot of people are like,

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in that situation. I think because you have a Quinn

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get comfortable, he can make every single throw. Yes, and

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credit to Texas and their offensive line for picking it up.

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a hell of a route by the receiver. It was

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bad technique by the safety, and I get it. Look,

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you're you know you had an eye violation. You're looking

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not your responsibility. Your responsibility is you know you're you're

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a single high safety, right, So you've got anything over

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the top there, you got in a bad spot. Great

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though by Quinn. Hell of a route by the receiver.

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credit to Quinn in Texas are getting to look at

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it and then adjusting to it.

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Speaker 1: The same calls are the ones that got you there

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in the in the first place.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: So I'll just read because again this is where I

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credit Texas. I'll read Chase his tweet here It says

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Quinn yours was the difference maker in the game.

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Speaker 2: For Texas.

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Speaker 1: Biggest play the game is when he checked to cover

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zero beater on the fourth and thirteen touchdown pass check

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to a post route of max protection, then sod the

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offensive line the correct way through a dark season on line.

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Speaker 2: All very true credit to Quinn.

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Speaker 1: Why though I say Texas is not the story is

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because this is not a.

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Speaker 2: Game in which.

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Speaker 1: The team that played better one Texas was lucky to

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win this game.

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Speaker 2: How about this?

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Speaker 1: Here is and the final box score is still very

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lopside of Arizona State, but it is a bit tinged

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with some real last minute stats coming in thanks to

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overtime and whatnot. Here is the box score after Arizona

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State tied it at twenty four a piece with less

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than five minutes left in the game, and at this

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point cam Skataboo alone has more total yards than the

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entire Texas team.

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Speaker 2: Here's the box score.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five first downs for the Devils to ten for Texas.

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Speaker 2: Jake twenty five to.

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Speaker 1: Ten, four hundred and forty two total yards to two

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hundred and ten. Arizona State had thrown for two seventy,

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Speaker 2: Arizona State had.

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Speaker 1: Run the ball for one hundred and seventy two yards.

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Texas had run it for forty eight Arizona State had

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the ball for thirty seven minutes, Texas had it for seventeen.

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Arizona State had run eighty two plays. Texas had run forty.

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a box score as you will find if you look

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in the entirety of this college football season, and yet

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they end up cuting to So the impressive part to

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me is not just the unbelievable, heroic come back to

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the performances, Like my narrative for the game before that,

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just unbelievable search Arizona State was that man. This sucks

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because Arizona State actually dominated the game and just missed

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too many opportunities that still ends up cost him.

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Speaker 2: But like, but that's the crazy part.

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Speaker 5: They dominated the game again to Texas team, they absolutely

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should not have been a So it's a credit to

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dilling Ham, it's a credit to Scott, but it's a

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credit to that defense, it's credit to everybody on that team,

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and it's a validation of things like the regular season

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mattering and talent deposit not being the end all be

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all and you still can be the hole can be

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greater than the sum of its parts, and Arizona State

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proved that in a playoffs, so that desperately needed to

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be proven.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mitchell, inside the chat, they were losing by fourteen

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the entire game, though, but did you just listen to

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what T Bob was saying. They had their opportunities, and

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they played so well that they kept it within fourteen,

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even though they missed their chances, even though they had

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a block field goal, even though they got down to

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the two yard line and got stopped, because look, the

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play calling was not creative down there.

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Speaker 2: It just wasn't. They were very creative getting to that point.

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Speaker 4: And then you could tell all year they've been able

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to line up in ace formation, handed off to Camscataboo

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and score touchdowns. They tried that, it did not work.

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Now they adjusted as the game win long. And also

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like they got back to it because they had leaned

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on they broke.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they broke it a little bit.

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Speaker 4: They got back to themselves, but at that point they

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had not done that.

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Speaker 2: You don't love the play.

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Speaker 4: Calls down there, right, You kind of changed who you

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were from the twenties to when you got inside them.

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Speaker 2: Also.

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Speaker 1: Credit that's another thing that you could give Texas roses

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on red zone defense matters. It does right, and it's

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why the defense was not great between the twenty.

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Speaker 4: For the red zone, a running football team usually plays

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a little bit better because everything's so condensed down there

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if you're a passing team. And so it actually favored

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Arizona State going into the matchup there in the red area,

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but they weren't able to get it done. Again, play

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calls left you, you know, scratching your head a little

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bit there. But yes, Texta did a nice job of

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stopping them there. But think about all the opportunities and

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normally when you have those opportunities, you don't take advantage, man,

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you just go away.

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Speaker 2: But they played so well that they.

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Speaker 4: Kept it within fourteen and then they started to make

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the plays that they weren't making beforehand, and then became

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a tied football game. And so yeah, z on A

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State can go back and now they can watch that

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tape and they're gonna be kicking themselves. But they also

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can go back and watch that tape and know that

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they belonged, yeah, in that game, and they're going to

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have a bright future. Their head coach Kenny Dillingham is

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from Tempe. He went to Arizona State. It would take

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a lot to get him out of there, so he

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is bought into the program. He just signed a new

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five year deal. Leve At, their quarterback was a red

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shirt freshman. He's already announced he's going to be back

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at Arizona State. I got a lot of pieces of

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this team going to be back now. The biggest piece

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is gone, but you've got a lot to build on

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there in Tempi, and man, what a game it was

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from them to be able to, you know, just take haymaker.

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After Haymaker still be standing up, they throw a haymaker

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and then look, Texas found a way.

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Speaker 1: To overcome that god awful start where Texas looked to

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be thirty points better than you, Kate, I mean just

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so much, faster, so much where they came out there

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immediate touchdown puff.

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Speaker 2: Turns out they're like, you don't even belong in the

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same field.

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Speaker 1: And then not just to eat that and survive, but

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to eat it, dominate, make tons of crucial errors and

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still get to that fourth and thirteen again. I agree

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with JV in the chat, that is a movie level loss.

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Like that is a Hollywood narrative Friday Night Lights Rocky,

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where you celebrate the loser who, against all odds almost

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toppled him and just couldn't quite Little big League just

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couldn't quite.

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Speaker 2: Get it all.

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Speaker 1: A little Bigly, I know, says something exactly the right

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going against the big bad Mariners.

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Speaker 2: We're just the plucky twins. What do we have? We

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have heart, we have grit, just not quite enough.

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Speaker 3: To your point, tim Um, you brought this up going

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into the Big twelve champ sorry, and it wound up

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not mattering in the in the beginning championship. I don't know, baby,

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so actually yeah, yeah it's tricky.

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Speaker 2: We don't because people stepped up.

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Speaker 3: But they really miss Jordan Tyson when you when they

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heat it on Cam's kataboo, like Sam Levitt had nobody

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because because on those news had to have it. Places

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like Texas went to Matthew Golden and he bailed him

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out time and time again. They didn't have that guy

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to go to on the outside. They had had him

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all year. I mean, mateyor the tight end had two

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or three really big drops and that had been an

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issue for him all year. But like Jordan Tyson would

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have helped them in this game.

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Speaker 4: He is he is six four two fifty five and

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he needed to play like it. That was frustrating to

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watch the Arizona State tight end. Like lack of daisicole

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as well, it was weird.

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Speaker 2: Man, just never want lazy hands. Well even then, like

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it is effectively.

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Speaker 3: Lazy, right because like he was getting open, but like

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he just didn't look like you wanted to be.

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Speaker 4: And then if you're Sam Levit, it's like, hey, Bud,

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I've I've trusted you four times. I ain't coming back

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to you fifth and so it takes away a receiver

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kind of in your progression.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: My wife is like, look, if you yell at number

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seven one more time, I'm going to ask you to leave.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, if he just give.

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Speaker 1: Effort, if he's six four two fifty five, you know

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what I would have done if the Good Lord blessed

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me to be six four two fifty five, get in

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the game the Okay, So I want to get into

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the targeting here in a minute. Yeah, on the Jordan

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Tyson front, Yeah, I mean that's a guy who accounted

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for seventy percent of the yards and there or maybe

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it was the catches in the regular season.

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Speaker 2: It was, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was an absurd like how many teams in this

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entire college football playoff would be okay if you took

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their second best player off the team. And as good

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as Levi it is, Jordan Tison was the second best

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player on this team to Camps Kataboo. So a shout

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out to the Demons. I think we were all cheering

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for you, except for a lodge lodge we have it.

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I'm sorry we have not given you your time to

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represent the Hookers. So how did you feel about your

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your longhorns there.

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Speaker 2: The hook them?

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Speaker 6: Well, I just think it's I get what you're saying,

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but I just think it's funny that Texas won and

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we're like, go Arizona State. Like I understand why you're

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saying it, but you're just such a hater that you

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can't just be like, shout out, I.

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Speaker 4: Don't hate Texas like he does. And still like I

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get why we're all talking about Arizona State because it

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is just like that's the story that very rare, rare

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time that you can celebrate a loss because it was

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such a fight, and that's why, like Gary Soaken gives

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him Camp's gotta be the MVP. And he's like, hey,

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we ain't never done this before, but you can't be denied.

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So credit to Texas and they're still moving on. They

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still get to play. But I do agree with Tea,

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it is that rare time that you're going to celebrate

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Arizona State over Texas because of how it play.

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Speaker 1: The movie's about Rocky Yeah, and that's like Texas are

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the big bad guys. They are King Griffy Junior in

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Little Big League. They win in the end, and they

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advance because they are better than more talent all that

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sort of stuff. Uh, but the story here.

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Speaker 2: Are the lovable losers.

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Speaker 1: But guess what, because Texas advances, they'll be right back

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into the prime time. You know, they still have the

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ability to write their own legend. Maybe this sends at

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a national championship for Texas and then you look back

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on that Quinn you weres playing, it becomes one of

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the greatest plays in school history.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, they found a way to win a game

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that they shouldn't have and that that that makes you

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a better football team. Like to your point, you rattled

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off those stats, Arizona State doubled you up. Statistically in

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every category. You were down to a fourth and thirteen

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after you scored that to go into overtime, you scored

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and then you got the ball and you scored again

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on the first play and at that point it was over.

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Like Texas limped into overtime, Arizona State did not, and

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Texas still found a way to win. And that's gonna

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make you a better team. Yeah, you got that two

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point conversion too. Yeah, just when they got the drive home,

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the fact that the game was over.

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Speaker 4: I agree, go ahead, Now they got a face anybody.

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Speaker 6: Yeah in americaregan And we haven't talked about that yet,

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but that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's nothing to talk about that one, right, Yeah,

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I mean Jeremiah Smith is to talk about. Yeah, but

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we already knew that.

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Speaker 6: I said it during the break, like Quinn didn't have

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a good game, but he stepped up when he yes.

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Speaker 2: And that he played. I don't think you played bad though.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't terrible. But it's like it's just like every

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game that Quinn has where.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's the one play that's like what are

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you do in this one? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: He has like Golden is freaking he's a bet and

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Gunner Helm is pretty good too.

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Speaker 2: Anytime you needed something like Helm was open. There's no

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doubt he's one of the better tight ends in the country.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I don't know. I think I even Teaball

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was like panic time. Yeah, I was like, put Arch him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of you're a tweeted put Arch in,

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but it's like twenty four to twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Put him in. I'm done with Quinn. I wanted him

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to run a little bit.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 1: You think Quinn makes you think Arch makes that playing

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four thirteen, I don't know, but.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I know, I don't though I don't thinking. I think

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it's a play of experience.

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Speaker 6: Stepped up when he needed to step up, and so

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shout out him again.

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Speaker 1: I think there are areas in which you give Texas

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their roses, but they are not the story. Uh. Even

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though we got to talk, we'll talk about the targeting

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you get the other game, so we get back Moready

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Speaker 2: All start Twitter vendor seconds.

483
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Speaker 5: Back to sports talk, maybe off the bench.

484
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Speaker 2: All right, so.

485
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to OTV and continue to talk about the

486
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,920
playoff games. The one thing we didn't get through with

487
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,000
texts Arizona State was the targeting that was targeting but

488
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,920
was reviewed to not called targeting. As it is third

489
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and fifteen, levent drops, back throws the ball, it gets.

490
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Speaker 2: Tipped and which doesn't It's not like a or anything. No, no, no,

491
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,839
don't no, I know you knew. I just laid it

492
00:22:39,839 --> 00:22:40,759
out for but it.

493
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: Gets tipped and then in the tackle it's just a

494
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,759
big helmet.

495
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,039
Speaker 2: The helmet hit like it was one of those deals.

496
00:22:50,079 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 1: Whereas it's being reviewed, basically everybody is saying, okay, this

497
00:22:53,519 --> 00:22:56,279
is for sure targeting and at the time it probably

498
00:22:56,279 --> 00:22:58,200
would have set Arizona State up.

499
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Speaker 2: First down thirty with timeouts and they would have had.

500
00:23:02,599 --> 00:23:05,519
Speaker 1: A good chance to kick a game winning field goal. Yeah,

501
00:23:05,559 --> 00:23:07,720
here's the hit right there. If you're watching on YouTube,

502
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:13,880
accomps least one four or five ESPN. Now he didn't,

503
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,359
I mean, okay, So here's my thoughts on the play.

504
00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:24,599
I thought it was targeting. In the end, I am

505
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,319
not upset that the refs did not call this targeting

506
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,000
and did not decide the game with a targeting and

507
00:23:31,039 --> 00:23:34,759
I think Arizona State validated that decision and still finding

508
00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:37,839
a way to fight back and get within one play

509
00:23:37,839 --> 00:23:39,759
of winning the game, and the win would have been

510
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,920
much more satisfying, Like the outcome was much more satisfying

511
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:50,160
for everybody in general. That targeting was not called here,

512
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,519
even if you believe that, Like that's my personal take.

513
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,319
I thought it was targeting, but I'm not mad that

514
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,680
they reviewed it and didn't call it.

515
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Speaker 4: You can't And I get not wanting a game like

516
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,759
this decided on. I get that, but a penalty is

517
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a penalty, and it was targeting. And for Arizona State,

518
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,319
they get the baught the thirty five yard line going

519
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,920
in with enough time for them to run their style

520
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,720
of offense, get the clock down, make Texas use their

521
00:24:15,759 --> 00:24:20,799
timeouts at worst, and then you, you know, you get

522
00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:24,759
the opportunity to go win the football game in that moment.

523
00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:26,880
You don't even overtime. It's not even a factor because

524
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,039
you're not getting to overtime. And look, y'all know me,

525
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,119
Like I love the game as physical as it possibly can,

526
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,880
but you can't pick and choose when you call the

527
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,400
penalty based off the situation. If it's a penalty, it's

528
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a penalty. And that was And look at taf I

529
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,599
love him, I love watching him play. He's as physical

530
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,440
as any safety out there. Both those safeties for Texas

531
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are but that is a penalty. And Arizona State, I

532
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,039
think if they get that, I think they win the game.

533
00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:55,200
But even more than any of that tea right, because

534
00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:56,839
you're right, it ended up being an awesome game.

535
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,599
Speaker 1: Arizona State had their chances. I'm going to go back

536
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:00,920
and you know what I'm going to say.

537
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 4: I need that head official right here, and I need

538
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,079
the rules official that reviewed it right here.

539
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,839
Speaker 2: And I need a microphone here, and I need wait,

540
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,839
you not your And that's what I need.

541
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 4: Okay, I need two microphones behind all of the people involved. Okay,

542
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,799
that's what I need. And I need not a poor reporter.

543
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,440
I don't need a pull. I don't need a single

544
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,880
poor reporter. I need a room full of reporters and

545
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,359
I need them to sit there and I need him

546
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,480
to tell me here's what I saw, and maybe he

547
00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:43,839
gives me the explanation that I'm like, Okay, I can

548
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,559
live with that, but I need him on the field.

549
00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 2: Here's what I saw.

550
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,799
Speaker 4: Okay, mister replay official, on the replay, Here's what I saw.

551
00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:56,039
Here's how it played out for me. Here's how I

552
00:25:56,079 --> 00:26:00,640
got to my ruling. And if you have that, maybe

553
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,839
we can live with it, or maybe we get more angry.

554
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,279
I don't know, but we'll never know. I don't understand

555
00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:09,839
why we can't get that done. You sit here, he

556
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,079
sits there. Explain to me what you saw. Because if

557
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,079
I fumble, I got to tell you why I had

558
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,920
bad ball. Security, ball popped out. If I throw an interception,

559
00:26:20,319 --> 00:26:22,240
read the coverage wrong, throw it to the wrong guy.

560
00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:26,559
If I have a mistackle, I duck, my head didn't wrap.

561
00:26:27,079 --> 00:26:29,079
Speaker 2: It's my fault. I'll take it.

562
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,319
Speaker 4: If a coach makes a bad call in the game,

563
00:26:31,759 --> 00:26:33,880
I should not have called it. Here's what I was thinking.

564
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,519
Here's how it played out.

565
00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:38,759
Speaker 1: Every single person involved in a win or a loss

566
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,960
as a microphone in front of them, and we have

567
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:42,880
to explain it.

568
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 4: A lot of times. We barely have enough time to

569
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,160
get our pads off. Sometimes we're in a towel trying

570
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,720
to hurry up and get out of the locker room

571
00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:52,680
because you know, thirty microphones are going to be in

572
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,319
front of you. I've got to do it. The coach

573
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,319
has got to do it. Now, we're all getting paid

574
00:26:58,319 --> 00:27:01,200
to be here. Both these guys are getting paid to

575
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,119
be here too. The officials and the replay officials. Why

576
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,680
in the world can we not have them sit down

577
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,440
after a game and go over not every call, We're

578
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,039
not trying to go over every call, but if a

579
00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:19,319
game has an impactful play like that, why in the

580
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,680
world can we not just hear from them? Why can't

581
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,680
they explain what they saw? The UFL's got it figured out.

582
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,359
We get a chance to listen to what they're talking about.

583
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,319
Even that, even if you don't want to sit them

584
00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:32,519
after the game, let me hear, Let me hear what

585
00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:35,599
the discussion is. How did you get to your ruling?

586
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,519
Because again, it might behoove you, it might benefit you. You

587
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,000
might say something like, okay, well that makes sense, but

588
00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:45,559
we'll never know. I don't understand why every single one

589
00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:47,920
of us that is on the field outside of the

590
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,480
referees and the replay official have to answer questions to

591
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:54,759
how they got there or why something happened, but they

592
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,480
never ever have to.

593
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: So I I actually agree in this case, although again,

594
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,599
like I always say, I understand why they don't, but

595
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,920
I agree in this case, I would love an explanation.

596
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:11,880
Here's the only thing I would say. And I'm not

597
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,279
gonna die on this hill, and so I don't really

598
00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:17,440
care to debate it. But my take on the if

599
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,119
it's a penalty, it's a penalty. If it's not, it's

600
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:24,720
not thing is that targeting is so subjective, is so much.

601
00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:27,519
Speaker 2: Gray area, but that's not great area. That's what I'm saying.

602
00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: I think you could you could, like you know how lawyers,

603
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,000
if you allow them enough gray air to play around,

604
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:35,440
and they can form any argument I could say, because

605
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,559
it feels like this call they've called targeting very much

606
00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:40,119
more based on intent. I would say he came with

607
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,200
his face up, he didn't launch, he didn't hit with

608
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,960
the crown of the head, his intent was not malicious,

609
00:28:46,119 --> 00:28:50,759
like like a defense attorney that's defending someone guilty. Like

610
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,559
I think there's enough subjectivity there where. That would be

611
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:55,279
the argument that I would craft.

612
00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: But again I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't

613
00:28:56,839 --> 00:28:58,880
that that's my opinion. Anything I'm wrong.

614
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: I would just say I like I would see the

615
00:29:01,519 --> 00:29:03,519
day because I don't. I'm not going to sit here

616
00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:06,480
and try to convince anybody. But that's what I imagine

617
00:29:06,839 --> 00:29:09,119
their kind of logic was behind not called just but

618
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,599
you can I just I can't get behind it being

619
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,000
a penalty every time unless the game's.

620
00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:17,839
Speaker 2: Want well, but I don't know that it has this year.

621
00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a bad rule overall, but it does feel

622
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,480
like this year they've done a better job of taking

623
00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:27,400
the intent into it and not being so strict like

624
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,759
there's a zero percent chance that Devin White gets ejected

625
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,400
this season verse a few years ago.

626
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,279
Speaker 4: Mean, the hit on Jadon Daniels was in a penalty

627
00:29:35,319 --> 00:29:38,319
last year, So I understand what you're saying, right because

628
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:40,319
I mean that was a bad one and typically that

629
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,880
is called it has gone down. I get all of that,

630
00:29:43,319 --> 00:29:48,200
But to what the rule is again, taff ducks the

631
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,240
head crown of the head to the side of the helmet,

632
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,160
and that gets called ninety nine point nine percent of

633
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,880
the times. It's just like, you can't allow the situation

634
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,759
to affect what the call is. And if it's holding,

635
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:04,119
it's holding. If it's a chop block, it's a childblockers

636
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,839
pastor inferance is past interference, and you know this was

637
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,559
targeting but again, if we had access to what the

638
00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:14,079
conversations were, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

639
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: It'd be a different conversation.

640
00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: We would be having the conversation of Hey, the replay

641
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,160
official says, this is why it was not a targeting.

642
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: There was a B and C. But we won't know

643
00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:26,119
a B and C.

644
00:30:26,319 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 4: And then when they put you know, a referee with

645
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:32,319
one pool reporter who's asking questions that really only benefit

646
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,680
one side, we just don't know. And as somebody, you've

647
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,759
been in that situation too, it's not just me playing

648
00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:38,319
in the NFL.

649
00:30:38,359 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: It happens in college when you messed up. No, I agree,

650
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:42,759
I would love to hear from you.

651
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 4: You had to answer questions why you messed up, no

652
00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:49,960
matter what it is. We've all been if you've played

653
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,880
at a high level, you've all been there.

654
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it sucks.

655
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,799
Speaker 4: You're still mad about it, you still got your blood pumping,

656
00:30:57,279 --> 00:30:59,559
you still have your EyeBlack on. But you got to

657
00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:02,720
answer the questions, because that's just part of it. In

658
00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:05,119
the NFL, you get a like a ten minute cool

659
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,680
off period. Well, honestly, once you get in the locker room,

660
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,000
the head coach is talking for eight minutes, so you

661
00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:12,319
get about two minutes to cool off and it's.

662
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: Like, hey, it is what it is, And here they come.

663
00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:17,119
Speaker 4: You see him coming in the locker room, cameras on

664
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,119
the shoulder, microphone in hand, and you're like, all right,

665
00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:19,799
well here we go.

666
00:31:20,359 --> 00:31:22,039
Speaker 2: I just wish we had that.

667
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 4: Same accountability for the people who are making the calls

668
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,559
on the field, because they get paid. They have a job,

669
00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:32,039
just like our jobs, to go out there and play football.

670
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,720
And I just think that it's something where you would leave,

671
00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:39,480
you know, all the doubting of oh the fixes in

672
00:31:39,559 --> 00:31:42,039
and I saw that over Twitter. I don't look, it's

673
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:43,920
a big ten official crew, it's an Essie's.

674
00:31:44,359 --> 00:31:46,039
Speaker 2: I don't know any of that. I'm not engaging in that.

675
00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:48,039
Speaker 4: I don't think there was a fix in, but we

676
00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:51,240
would get exactly how they got there, which I just

677
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:53,640
think would help so much of what we're talking about.

678
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: When we get back here on O TV one final

679
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,440
playoff game to get to we can also preview tonight's

680
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this afternoon Nunes Sugar Bowls. So keep it locked right

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683
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Speaker 2: I ran into a bit of a disaster.

684
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Speaker 1: Guys. Now, remember if you live in living centercension and

685
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you you actually get to choose who does your residence

686
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or trash pickup, you can choose trash Rangers and you'll

687
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get it more efficient, more liable, just better overall service

688
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because they're local, they're part of the community, so they

689
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just they give a damn so much higher than these

690
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national companies where you're just in numbers. But they also

691
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text you the night beforehand, Hey we're coming tomorrow. Remember

692
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it's your day. Put out the cans so you never

693
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get again. You know who doesn't again, These nash will comes,

694
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,920
don't give it damn. So I forgot to put my

695
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trash out a couple times ago, and so here I am,

696
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,759
shamefully at ten o'clock last night bringing bags to neighbors

697
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trash cans that they've always put out, like like like

698
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some sort of fat, sneaky trash burglar, dumping my extra

699
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bags into all the cans that I can find on

700
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my street, feeling I'm on somebody's ring camera freaking them out.

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Go to trash rangers dot com today, Welcome back to

702
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the ninth ranked morning sports show in America. Off the bench,

703
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Welcome back to O TV. Yeah, it's it's a weird thing,

704
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:52,799
the trash thing, because like, why why would uh like

705
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:58,000
why why did I feel like I was committing such

706
00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:02,240
a crime or an invade vision of people's personal space

707
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,920
when I was putting bags in their cans that you're

708
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already out on the road, they're not going to touch

709
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them again. It's not like you care about the trash.

710
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But I'll be damned if I didn't feel as if

711
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I was basically breaking and entering.

712
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Speaker 2: Yeah, little b and E.

713
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: Desperate times, desperate measures. I'm like Aladdin out here stealing apples.

714
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 2: I think it's read.

715
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,159
Speaker 3: I think it's because like when when people see you,

716
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,320
like you mentioned on the ring doorbell cameras, actively dumping

717
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,760
your trash and other people's cans, they're probably thinking, what

718
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,519
the hell is in T Bob's trash bags?

719
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: Like a dumping like incriminating evidence into your trash cans.

720
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: I thought about that as well, right, because if you

721
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,119
were to commit a crime, that would be something that

722
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,360
you would you would maybe try to do. That's kind

723
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,280
of dumb, though, because that is evidence, right, Like you'll

724
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:53,000
be on a person's camera dumping trash bags into there.

725
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 4: I'm actually going to say, if you're listening to this

726
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,679
show and you live in T Bob's neighborhood, because T

727
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,039
Bob does a lot of things out in his neighborhood. Uh,

728
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:04,840
they watch baseball games, he goes for walks, so everybody

729
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,800
knows and T Bob is one of one, so everybody

730
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,199
knows that T Bob lives there. If you have him

731
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,000
on your ring camera, can you please email it to

732
00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:14,639
a Launder or Taylor so we can get that footage

733
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:17,960
because it's on there. So if you live in his neighborhood,

734
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,760
check your ring cameras today, please, we.

735
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,519
Speaker 2: Need to see. I think I ended up hitting three

736
00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:22,480
different cans.

737
00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:27,519
Speaker 1: You're for sure three three cans was the was the

738
00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:28,239
final tally.

739
00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:31,519
Speaker 6: Not to be a nark, but this is definitely illegal.

740
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure it was. I just looked it up.

741
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,039
Speaker 1: It's weird, but like, why right, it feels like it

742
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:39,239
feels like it would be.

743
00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 6: I didn't think it was just looked it up.

744
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,679
Speaker 4: If you put something to the street, I'm like, hey,

745
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,559
this is whoever gets your first come get it. So

746
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:48,559
you would feel like it would be almost kind of

747
00:35:48,559 --> 00:35:50,119
that situation a little bit.

748
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: It's if it's in the street, it's kind of public domain.

749
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, people always put that's what we all do. You

750
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,639
put it out in front of the house of a

751
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:02,280
couple of days and something that somebody might want.

752
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 2: Like I saw a.

753
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,199
Speaker 1: Mattress this morning's it was like a kid's mattress.

754
00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: Look nice, It look nice.

755
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: There's to be fair. I did start wondering, why are

756
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,480
they throwing it out? I wonder what took place in

757
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,000
the mattress.

758
00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:17,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you can get fined up to five thousand dollars.

759
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:20,199
What so if you do have it on a ring camera,

760
00:36:20,599 --> 00:36:22,360
I actually implore you to delete it.

761
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,119
Speaker 2: No, I send it into it. I'm after me legally,

762
00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:28,639
and you'll be dealing with Gordon. That's right. Okay, So

763
00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:31,400
that's all I'm saying, Gordon, watch out.

764
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:37,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, Gordon, I know you're you're you're typically an accident attorney.

765
00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:40,199
Speaker 2: Well this was an accident. Yes, I need I need

766
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,079
a defense attorney.

767
00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 6: He did accidentally forget to put his trash cans out.

768
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, well well that's because I don't trash. I'm

769
00:36:47,519 --> 00:36:49,239
not allowed to have trash. I know me neither.

770
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 4: During the break I forgot I saw all my neighbor's

771
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,000
cans out. I'm like, if there's one thing my wife

772
00:36:55,039 --> 00:36:57,000
will get mad at is if I don't put the

773
00:36:57,039 --> 00:36:57,559
trash out.

774
00:36:57,559 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 2: So I had to put the car in park, hit

775
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,800
the slow job up to the can, take the can.

776
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,079
Speaker 4: Then you realize, oh man, this is the day they

777
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:07,159
pick up extra stuff as well. You see two big

778
00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:10,800
carboard boxes from Christmas. Had a jog back grab those.

779
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,559
But I mean it was a whole situation. But if

780
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:14,000
I would have had a text, I mean.

781
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: I missed the.

782
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:23,159
Speaker 1: Christmas pickup in between, so this was trash acculated through Christmas.

783
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,559
In New Year's I would have been saying the amount

784
00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:28,239
of boxes, the amount of bags.

785
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,039
Speaker 2: It was quite insane, quite insane.

786
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 4: Uh, Gordon wouldn't touch this case with football.

787
00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: No, guys, they did not forget to put out the

788
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,239
trash because I picked Baylor. I forgot to put out

789
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,000
the trash before I picked Baylors.

790
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,119
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I feel I do.

791
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:53,159
Speaker 1: I do feel somewhat bad that I had to involve

792
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,440
t Bob shut Up into the slander, because one I

793
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,639
didn't know it was gonna upset him this much. Maybe

794
00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:01,639
that's why he was a little quiet on the text thread.

795
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,519
He was mad at me. The only the only hint

796
00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:07,159
that I gave of it in the text thread. I

797
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,000
texted Jake because I thought about saying something public, but

798
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,760
I wouldn't. I don't want to take a misstep. That's

799
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,480
why I texted you. Did you pick elsh you ever

800
00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:17,440
gave this season? Just kind of innocuous little text. I

801
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,599
was sitting out there that that I just wanted to

802
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:23,000
confirm before I said something publicly.

803
00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it was more.

804
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 4: It was pointed more at hunt in Moscona, and you

805
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,960
know my teammate had to catch a stray.

806
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: Look.

807
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: Never, I will never apologize if I do anything that

808
00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:44,400
Jimmy Yatte also does. The Odd Father is a leading

809
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,639
light in my life. Okay about I thought you trust gaming,

810
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,719
I'm like your co host over here is not bad

811
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,039
at game.

812
00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 4: No, I trust. I trust the Odd Father with my life.

813
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,440
I just don't do it publicly. From casinos every day,

814
00:38:57,559 --> 00:39:02,199
which is great Otter's legend anywhere the surf meets a turf, right, yeah,

815
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,159
del mar act Oh.

816
00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:06,639
Speaker 2: I watched Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?

817
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 6: That reminded me because of the character's name. Great.

818
00:39:16,159 --> 00:39:20,679
Speaker 1: Another John Goodman scene stealing cameo as Cyclops.

819
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:23,119
Speaker 2: It's like one of those fantastic you know.

820
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 4: Sometimes I think William Hurt was nominated for like Supporting

821
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,519
Actor for being in a movie like Eastern promises.

822
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,039
Speaker 2: It's like in it for like five minutes, but he's

823
00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:33,719
still got they watch. Eastern promises, I saw it with

824
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,400
my mom back in the day, Oh you and Teresa.

825
00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: Eastern promises, Yeah, and I mean it's got a lot

826
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,760
of fully nude swinging meet fight scenes, like opens with

827
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,559
like a sex worker being murdered. It was just like

828
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:49,400
not a great Did you see it in the movie

829
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,400
theater across from Tech Texas de Brazil? Is that what

830
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,360
gave you the inspiration? I would have seen it at the race.

831
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,000
All right, when we get back, let's close it out.

832
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,199
We still got to talk about a hot state.

833
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: Who off the Bench?

834
00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: Welcome in to the best morning Sports this show around

835
00:40:17,079 --> 00:40:19,039
Off the Bench with Hester and T Bob.

836
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 2: What's thatding y'all? Welcome back to OTV.

837
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:24,519
Speaker 1: So the last playoff game that we haven't talked about

838
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:29,559
yet is a hot State Oregon. In a deeply ironic twist,

839
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,960
the game in which we were most looking forward to

840
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,599
has maybe being the best, the most evenly matched two

841
00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:43,159
teams that had an absolute instant classic in the first matchup,

842
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,039
two teams that were, by most accounts, thought to be

843
00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:49,719
arguably the most two complete teams in this college football playoff,

844
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:57,000
like most talent, least amount of holes, and well did

845
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,679
not play out that way. It actually ends up being

846
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,000
the big blowout of the entire playoff, as Jeremiah Smith

847
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,800
in Ohio State hopped on him early and never let up,

848
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,760
going up thirty one to nothing in what basically felt

849
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,400
like five minutes. Chip Kelly looking like old school Chip

850
00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:17,639
Kelly again. Like, there's a lot to talk about if

851
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:21,320
you're a Buckeye fan. Here to me, the main stories

852
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:29,519
are twofold, maybe threefold. First, Jeremiah Smith is probably the

853
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:33,559
best receiver in the entire country already as a true freshman.

854
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,039
And for all the talk of him or Ryan Williams

855
00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:38,280
from earlier in the year, remember Ryan Williams of the

856
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,679
big moments, Againt Georgia early on to game the early nod.

857
00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:44,840
But Jeremiah Smith easily wins that battle against anybody that

858
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,920
you want to put him up against. The amount like

859
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,760
he can just do everything. He's a physical freak, He's

860
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,480
got incredible hands, he can run all the way. He

861
00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:56,079
said before that game that when he got one on ones,

862
00:41:56,079 --> 00:41:57,960
he was just gonna smile because he knew he would win.

863
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,679
Speaker 2: And then he went out there and he did it.

864
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 1: Like Jeremiah Smith is a Megatron level talent.

865
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: He's only a true freshman.

866
00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:09,639
Speaker 1: Remember he's the fastest to ever lose the Black stripe

867
00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:12,519
when he got to Ohio State, like so much hype

868
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:16,039
and hype surpassed somehow.

869
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:18,639
Speaker 4: Which is so hard to do, Yes, when you have

870
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,519
as much as he came into this season with from

871
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:25,280
the moment he stepped on campus too, and you know

872
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,880
I do I do shows with a couple of former

873
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,840
buck Eyes, and you know they.

874
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,159
Speaker 2: Were like, you know, gotta lose the Black Stripe guy

875
00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:31,639
kind of quick.

876
00:42:31,679 --> 00:42:33,599
Speaker 1: We saw a lot of great players that still had

877
00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:35,480
that thing on, you know, up until fault. It's like,

878
00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:40,719
well now you know why. Yeah, so he was on otherworldly.

879
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,599
What does he finished with like eight for one, seventy

880
00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:44,679
and two tuns or something? He could have finished with

881
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,199
whatever he wanted. Yeah, to be honest, Uh, look, Will

882
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,039
Howard very validating for Howard? Could I mean again, the

883
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:57,159
guys had one bad game this entire year? Uh, and

884
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,519
he continues to make Ryan Day look really good for

885
00:43:02,639 --> 00:43:07,760
taking that bet on him and bringing him in to

886
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,559
quarterback this team. And really, speaking of Ryan Day, that's

887
00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:14,559
the third and maybe the biggest point. What a weird

888
00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:17,639
year for Ohio State. You didn't win the Big Ten,

889
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,000
you didn't even beat a bad Michigan team, and yet

890
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:25,639
now you look like the overwhelming favorite to win the

891
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,920
national championship. Ryan Day is currently taking the one exit ramp.

892
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,880
He had to everybody not yelling at him. I said

893
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,079
on Twitter, he should have came out, you know, after

894
00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:39,719
the first half and into the second half with a

895
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,960
goal chain on and a cigarette hanging out of his mouth.

896
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been the play for me.

897
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, with all the things that he's had to hear

898
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:50,760
about himself and his coaching abilities, and sometimes it works

899
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,679
out that way. You didn't even play for the Big Ten.

900
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,239
You lost to your rival for a fourth straight year.

901
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,840
But none of that's going to matter, or it shouldn't matter.

902
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,400
I know it does maybe to some Buckeye fans. If

903
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,400
you go win a national championship, and you're gonna win

904
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,400
a national championship, if you do finish it with a

905
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,719
Final four, that's going.

906
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 2: To have blue bloods.

907
00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:11,599
Speaker 1: Texas, Penn State, and one of Georgia are Notre Dame,

908
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,440
so it's gonna be earned as well. Yeah, oh yeah,

909
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:16,639
I mean without a doubt. I mean, you just just

910
00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:19,280
be thirteen, oh Oregon, And what a weird hear for Oregon.

911
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:25,159
I can trust me, guys, I can empathize. Right, undefeated season,

912
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,159
win the conference. The first matchup with the other best

913
00:44:28,159 --> 00:44:30,280
team in the conference is an instant classic in which

914
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,199
you barely scrape out a win, you get rematched when

915
00:44:33,199 --> 00:44:34,880
it matters, and you get blown out.

916
00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:37,039
Speaker 2: And nobody cares about you.

917
00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure in a few years I'll have

918
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,800
some reunion celebrated conference championship. But it doesn't mean I mean,

919
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,679
you're thirteen, it doesn't mean it. In the end, it sucks, hurts,

920
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,039
it sucks for them. But credit to Ryan Day and

921
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:52,519
the Buckeyes looking like the odds on favorite. All right,

922
00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:54,119
when we get back big you know, no big deal, munchies,

923
00:44:54,159 --> 00:44:56,559
keep it locked right here off the bench,