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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property, And for this week of November

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifth, we are continuing with Lost season one, episode

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, The Greater Good, which was somewhat randomly a

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<v Speaker 1>SAE flashback episode. Okay, right, THEAVI and Andrews was short

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<v Speaker 1>on appearances, so they said, okay, man, you can have

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<v Speaker 1>this one.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I like his appearance, so that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>If the only reason is because he's pretty, then that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll accept that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, I mean you'd think maybe maybe Shannon,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Claire, like these two have had pretty big things

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<v Speaker 2>go on with them in the previous episode.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean like dead Boone coming back, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>looking down from the sky at the goings on and

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<v Speaker 1>saying I remember when. But no, it's Sayid and I

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<v Speaker 1>really feel like they're supposed to be a connection between

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know what it is betwetween the flashbacks

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<v Speaker 1>and the usually the flashbacks comment in some way on

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<v Speaker 1>the action the island. Hey here, Jack has trouble letting

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<v Speaker 1>things go right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was like basically Sayid was well, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he was he was dealing with Lock like he was

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<v Speaker 2>confronting Locke, not.

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<v Speaker 1>Very effectually, right, right. I think Shannon wanted him to

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<v Speaker 1>be dealing with Locke in an entirely different way. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if the one of the themes of the

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<v Speaker 1>flashbacks was he was willing to do all these things

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<v Speaker 1>for a woman, including betraying his friend, maybe he said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what that got me on this island, so

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm not going to do anything for this pe. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and if he's like still thinking he's eventually going to

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<v Speaker 1>get to Nadya. Should he be canoodling with Shannon?

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<v Speaker 2>Good question.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get to the great love of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the meanwhile, well, I like your blonde hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but and I also like the recap. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know what you were just mentioning is like he was

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<v Speaker 2>willing to sacrifice his friend and you know, convince his

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<v Speaker 2>friend to go ahead with this suicide bombing so that

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<v Speaker 2>he could get what he wanted, which was to find

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<v Speaker 2>his way back to Nadia. But he he tried to

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<v Speaker 2>have it both ways. I mean, he tried to like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here's where the explosives are, which is what the CIA

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<v Speaker 2>wants to know, and friend run away now and everything

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<v Speaker 2>will be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean obviously he should have known, like where was

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<v Speaker 2>that guy gonna go?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he was.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna be killed by his you know, buddies if he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do what he was supposed to do. So but

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like said was trying to, yeah, not kill his.

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<v Speaker 1>Friend, that's right. And his noble gesture of claiming his

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<v Speaker 1>friend's book so it could be buried put him on

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<v Speaker 1>the slight flucker.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. Let what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Was there some something about what we saw on the

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<v Speaker 1>island that had to do with the greater good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good question.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there should be. And then I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>well missing it was I'm not going to kill Locke

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<v Speaker 1>because I think he is going to help us survive.

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<v Speaker 2>On as Island.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems like they got to the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>script and they said, oh crap, we haven't figured out

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<v Speaker 1>how this relates to anything, like, yeah, Locke being alive

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<v Speaker 1>is for the greater good.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, right, And also he didn't seem all

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<v Speaker 2>that mad that Locke was like, oh, also, I hit

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<v Speaker 2>you on the head and knocked you out, Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks ago. So he was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>well okay, but but you know how to hunt bore,

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<v Speaker 1>Of which there are apparently no more. Yeah, how much

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<v Speaker 1>four of these people been eating? Was there just like

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<v Speaker 1>one small family of war on this island.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's just.

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<v Speaker 1>That mother and the babies that invaded the camp. But

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<v Speaker 1>once we got those, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>And bothered bothered Sawyer which side notes, yes, lovely little

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<v Speaker 2>you know c or D plot of Sawyer is the

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<v Speaker 2>baby whisper.

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<v Speaker 1>I adored that. That's a parenting dip right there, mine

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<v Speaker 1>something that makes your baby shut up, even if it's

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<v Speaker 1>the sky you can't stand you know what. Yep, He'll

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<v Speaker 1>sit there and read automotive magazines to the baby. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I was surprised Sawyer didn't put up much more of

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<v Speaker 1>a fuss about that, but I guess if it keeps

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<v Speaker 1>the baby from crying.

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<v Speaker 2>Really did not want to hear the baby crying, so

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<v Speaker 2>he was gonna go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the cutest thing of all the people to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the baby, rightet it down for it's that Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's lucky because that guy didn't do much more than

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<v Speaker 1>sit around the beach. Is it had been somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>had an actual job to do. If it had been Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd have been screwed. That Jack has to be drugged. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>take an take a nap. This is not relatable to

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<v Speaker 1>me because if anybody says to me, stop stop worrying

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<v Speaker 1>about things, stop doing things, just sleep, It's like, yes, sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>sleep is good. Where's your couch. I will lay down.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna take a little nap. Jack would constantly

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<v Speaker 1>if I was Jack, I would constantly going, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this needs to be dealt with. I'm just gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>a little nap and then I'll be bad.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as that's over.

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<v Speaker 1>After my nap, is he sleeping again? That's the way

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<v Speaker 1>it would be if I was Jack. Wake that guy up.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the matter with him? Yes, somebody. Claire didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep either, just I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand why she didn't want to sleep, because, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>although we do know that Ethan's dead and he's the

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<v Speaker 2>one who tried to get her baby, was working so loo,

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<v Speaker 2>yes exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to laugh when when Charlie says, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take the baby. I won't let anything happen to him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, buddy, you said that to me, almost immediately

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<v Speaker 1>got right. Especially she does not remember that, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you do, he is.

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<v Speaker 3>A Jack available to watch the baby. Virtually anybody else

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<v Speaker 3>but Charlie. Somebody says, hey, we found Heroin in a plane,

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<v Speaker 3>and Charlie is gonna dump the baby on the beach.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he wouldn't do that. But also they they definitely

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<v Speaker 2>have multiple babies of very different ages and sizes playing

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<v Speaker 2>that baby like sometimes he looks like he's about four

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<v Speaker 2>months old, and sometimes he's was wondering like he's more

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<v Speaker 2>like a month or two. He never looks like he's

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<v Speaker 2>brand new.

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<v Speaker 1>Just no I have. I have zero infant experience of

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<v Speaker 1>my own. But yeah, that baby looked much too robust

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<v Speaker 1>to be Yeah, no, large and robust little turnip.

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<v Speaker 2>Head A good idea to tell Claire that I've been

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<v Speaker 2>calling you.

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<v Speaker 1>Has she actually said what the name is? I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I know what the baby's name is,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know if it's been said.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know what it is from reading it on

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<v Speaker 2>lost Pedia, but I don't think she's said it out loud.

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<v Speaker 1>She's waiting for somebody to do her a favor and

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<v Speaker 1>then she could bestow the name. No, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>winds up being nobody's name. What else I enjoyed At

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<v Speaker 1>some point I'm not sure who said it, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was a declaration made no more lies, and I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank goodness, that's it for the rest of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely straight. Why I you know what, just just say?

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<v Speaker 1>You know if Locke, if Locke told the truth, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>would believe him. Hey, you know, I was in a

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<v Speaker 1>wheelchair and now I'm not right, But he is. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a little off the chain, Locke. He's just he's

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<v Speaker 1>just telling people different people, different stories. And I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he found the plane because of a dream, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's gonna believe that. You know, he didn't tell Sayud that,

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<v Speaker 1>But if he had, would it have made things better?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been like, well, if you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me the truth, then don't even Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>this island is weird, man, Yeah, the lies of truth?

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<v Speaker 1>Truth is lies. How can you tell Sawyer is soothing

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<v Speaker 1>to a baby's where this island is.

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<v Speaker 2>A baby who grows and shrinks?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, time is weird on the island. Get a little

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<v Speaker 1>to yet a little younger. Yeah, but I guess Locke

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<v Speaker 1>has lost his little disciple. Balt has had it with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's afraid of Yes, luck, now what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to the last young guy who went out exactly? Also,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Locke shows up at the funeral completely.

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<v Speaker 2>Covered in blood, like, where have you been?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? It's my fault? Yeah, my bad. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the most painful thing for Walt is not losing I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the age is. Maybe this isn't true,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not losing this guy he looked up to

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoyed doing things with. But having to admit that

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<v Speaker 1>his father is right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Burned at him now he was right.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll have to go back to playing back Kevin with Hurley.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, well, Hurley's good for it, we know now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's got some doughly what else happened in this one?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like there wasn't much parenting in the flashbacks?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that we can.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, those flashbags were bad though, that was.

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<v Speaker 2>You know Cia, Yeah, yeah, the greater good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay to be It's okay to be bad for

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<v Speaker 1>the greater good. Apparently maybe that sort of thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Locke is being bad for the greater good? Or is he? Though? Yeah, Locke,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't quite know what's going on with that. Dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Why doesn't he just tell everybody about the hatch? Why

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<v Speaker 1>does it need to be a secret because it's special

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<v Speaker 1>because it's spoke to him? Or yeah, what's he gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do all by himself? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And also he he's making your lateral decisions about what

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<v Speaker 2>is for the greater good? You know, like him him

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<v Speaker 2>knocking out said because of them radio transmission. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I did it because I didn't think people needed to

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<v Speaker 2>know about this transmission, like, well, okay, well why why

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<v Speaker 2>are you the one who gets to decide that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we know, it's just because he doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>get off the island, right, But.

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<v Speaker 2>Last week we talked about where is Claire getting closed

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<v Speaker 2>for the baby? She does appear to have like a

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<v Speaker 2>baby blanket, And then at one point someone asked Charlie like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it is diaper dirty, and Charlie just takes a sniff,

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<v Speaker 2>like which is a very actually apparent thing to do,

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<v Speaker 2>like just just you know, by nose is how you tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Both shows we watched this week involved people smelling babies,

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<v Speaker 1>true to determine the diaper situation.

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<v Speaker 2>True, that's right, we will get to that tomorrow. But

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, they just I guess they're just telling us

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<v Speaker 1>Know, don't ask too many questions. It's the Magical Islands,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it is. There's a cave full of diapers.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get heroin, you can get coconuts, and.

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<v Speaker 1>So that plain full of heroin is just like a

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<v Speaker 2>I know. Yeah, I'm worried about Charlie. Yes, that'll keep

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<v Speaker 2>him busy for a while, it's true, But yes, that

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<v Speaker 2>is That is unnerving knowing that that's out there, plus

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<v Speaker 2>at least two more bodies that they haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>Dealt with, right, Yeah, get those guys in the dirt.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got quite this quite the cemetery they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Going with, ye yeah, but they got their hands full.

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<v Speaker 1>So everybody knows that the key to a locker full

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they mentioned this online.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Shannon had known that. She seems to mostly

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<v Speaker 1>the welfare of the of the era. She hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>on the committee, you know, to uh, to do stuff

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<v Speaker 1>anything at all on the committee to get a TAN exactly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>by Saya, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Last pedia they said something about how she somehow she

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<v Speaker 2>found out from Kate.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay or some point, but all right, I don't recall

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<v Speaker 1>what had happened. So, yeah, a lot of people just

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<v Speaker 1>spontaneously shooting or attempting to shoot people in the jungle.

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<v Speaker 1>It never works out that well, right, although actually I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it did for Charlie shott Ethan that worked out okay. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's always like dramatically the person you wouldn't expect

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<v Speaker 2>And it may have you know, it worked out in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of okay, Ethan's gone, But speaking of taking time bombs,

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<v Speaker 2>we know he wasn't alone. So at some point it

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<v Speaker 2>feels like somebody's gonna come looking.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder we got three more episodes left for the

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<v Speaker 1>first season. When do you think.

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<v Speaker 2>People are going to show up?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that we'll end the season with just a

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<v Speaker 1>nice little clam bake on the beach, everybody happy to

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<v Speaker 1>be together, warning those lost, looking forward to future adventures.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go as the sun sets.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds good.

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<v Speaker 1>And no more lies. They're all being completely honest with

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<v Speaker 1>one another night, right right, little utopia there on the island.

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<v Speaker 2>Right because much like parenting, you know, we know that

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<v Speaker 2>once we solve a problem, then we're all good. From

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<v Speaker 2>that point, we can.

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<v Speaker 1>Go take a nap. Yeah, that's great, No problems that

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<v Speaker 1>that nice reprobate everybody hates. We'll take care, We'll soothe

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<v Speaker 1>the baby to sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good, no problem.

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<v Speaker 1>So next Tuesday we will continue with season one episode

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two, Have Lost Born to Run, which is I

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<v Speaker 1>believe a k flashback because if you heard a future

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<v Speaker 1>excellent and This is the last episode before the big

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<v Speaker 1>two part season finale, so expect lots of dominoes to

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<v Speaker 1>be set in place to be dramatically tipped in that

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<v Speaker 1>those last two episodes all right, yay, thank you for listening.

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