Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
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Speaker 1: Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
Speaker 1: an older entertainment property, And for this week of November
Speaker 1: twenty fifth, we are continuing with Lost season one, episode
Speaker 1: twenty one, The Greater Good, which was somewhat randomly a
Speaker 1: SAE flashback episode. Okay, right, THEAVI and Andrews was short
Speaker 1: on appearances, so they said, okay, man, you can have
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 2: I mean, I like his appearance, so that's true.
Speaker 1: If the only reason is because he's pretty, then that's fine.
Speaker 1: I'll accept that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I mean you'd think maybe maybe Shannon,
Speaker 2: maybe Claire, like these two have had pretty big things
Speaker 2: go on with them in the previous episode.
Speaker 1: But I mean like dead Boone coming back, right, you know,
Speaker 1: looking down from the sky at the goings on and
Speaker 1: saying I remember when. But no, it's Sayid and I
Speaker 1: really feel like they're supposed to be a connection between
Speaker 1: and I don't know what it is betwetween the flashbacks
Speaker 1: and the usually the flashbacks comment in some way on
Speaker 1: the action the island. Hey here, Jack has trouble letting
Speaker 1: things go right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like basically Sayid was well, I mean
Speaker 2: he was he was dealing with Lock like he was
Speaker 2: confronting Locke, not.
Speaker 1: Very effectually, right, right. I think Shannon wanted him to
Speaker 1: be dealing with Locke in an entirely different way. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, if the one of the themes of the
Speaker 1: flashbacks was he was willing to do all these things
Speaker 1: for a woman, including betraying his friend, maybe he said, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what that got me on this island, so
Speaker 1: maybe I'm not going to do anything for this pe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if he's like still thinking he's eventually going to
Speaker 1: get to Nadya. Should he be canoodling with Shannon?
Speaker 2: Good question.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to the great love of my life.
Speaker 1: And in the meanwhile, well, I like your blonde hair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but and I also like the recap. And you
Speaker 2: know what you were just mentioning is like he was
Speaker 2: willing to sacrifice his friend and you know, convince his
Speaker 2: friend to go ahead with this suicide bombing so that
Speaker 2: he could get what he wanted, which was to find
Speaker 2: his way back to Nadia. But he he tried to
Speaker 2: have it both ways. I mean, he tried to like, Okay,
Speaker 2: here's where the explosives are, which is what the CIA
Speaker 2: wants to know, and friend run away now and everything
Speaker 2: will be fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean obviously he should have known, like where was
Speaker 2: that guy gonna go?
Speaker 1: I mean, he was.
Speaker 2: Gonna be killed by his you know, buddies if he
Speaker 2: didn't do what he was supposed to do. So but
Speaker 2: I feel like said was trying to, yeah, not kill his.
Speaker 1: Friend, that's right. And his noble gesture of claiming his
Speaker 1: friend's book so it could be buried put him on
Speaker 1: the slight flucker.
Speaker 2: Yep. Let what happened?
Speaker 1: Was there some something about what we saw on the
Speaker 1: island that had to do with the greater good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good question.
Speaker 1: I feel like there should be. And then I'm just
Speaker 1: well missing it was I'm not going to kill Locke
Speaker 1: because I think he is going to help us survive.
Speaker 2: On as Island.
Speaker 1: That seems like they got to the end of the
Speaker 1: script and they said, oh crap, we haven't figured out
Speaker 1: how this relates to anything, like, yeah, Locke being alive
Speaker 1: is for the greater good.
Speaker 2: There you go, right, And also he didn't seem all
Speaker 2: that mad that Locke was like, oh, also, I hit
Speaker 2: you on the head and knocked you out, Yeah, a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. So he was like, all right,
Speaker 2: well okay, but but you know how to hunt bore,
Speaker 2: So I guess you're staying.
Speaker 1: Of which there are apparently no more. Yeah, how much
Speaker 1: four of these people been eating? Was there just like
Speaker 1: one small family of war on this island.
Speaker 2: Well, it's just.
Speaker 1: That mother and the babies that invaded the camp. But
Speaker 1: once we got those, that's it.
Speaker 2: And bothered bothered Sawyer which side notes, yes, lovely little
Speaker 2: you know c or D plot of Sawyer is the
Speaker 2: baby whisper.
Speaker 1: I adored that. That's a parenting dip right there, mine
Speaker 1: something that makes your baby shut up, even if it's
Speaker 1: the sky you can't stand you know what. Yep, He'll
Speaker 1: sit there and read automotive magazines to the baby. Right.
Speaker 1: I was surprised Sawyer didn't put up much more of
Speaker 1: a fuss about that, but I guess if it keeps
Speaker 1: the baby from crying.
Speaker 2: Really did not want to hear the baby crying, so
Speaker 2: he was gonna go for it.
Speaker 1: That was the cutest thing of all the people to
Speaker 1: be on the baby, rightet it down for it's that Well,
Speaker 1: it's lucky because that guy didn't do much more than
Speaker 1: sit around the beach. Is it had been somebody who
Speaker 1: had an actual job to do. If it had been Jack,
Speaker 1: they'd have been screwed. That Jack has to be drugged. Yeah,
Speaker 1: take an take a nap. This is not relatable to
Speaker 1: me because if anybody says to me, stop stop worrying
Speaker 1: about things, stop doing things, just sleep, It's like, yes, sleep,
Speaker 1: sleep is good. Where's your couch. I will lay down.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take a little nap. Jack would constantly
Speaker 1: if I was Jack, I would constantly going, you know,
Speaker 1: this needs to be dealt with. I'm just gonna take
Speaker 1: a little nap and then I'll be bad.
Speaker 2: As soon as that's over.
Speaker 1: After my nap, is he sleeping again? That's the way
Speaker 1: it would be if I was Jack. Wake that guy up.
Speaker 1: What's the matter with him? Yes, somebody. Claire didn't want
Speaker 1: to sleep either, just I mean.
Speaker 2: I understand why she didn't want to sleep, because, yes,
Speaker 2: although we do know that Ethan's dead and he's the
Speaker 2: one who tried to get her baby, was working so loo,
Speaker 2: yes exactly.
Speaker 1: I have to laugh when when Charlie says, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll take the baby. I won't let anything happen to him.
Speaker 1: It's like, buddy, you said that to me, almost immediately
Speaker 1: got right. Especially she does not remember that, but if
Speaker 1: you do, he is.
Speaker 3: A Jack available to watch the baby. Virtually anybody else
Speaker 3: but Charlie. Somebody says, hey, we found Heroin in a plane,
Speaker 3: and Charlie is gonna dump the baby on the beach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wouldn't do that. But also they they definitely
Speaker 2: have multiple babies of very different ages and sizes playing
Speaker 2: that baby like sometimes he looks like he's about four
Speaker 2: months old, and sometimes he's was wondering like he's more
Speaker 2: like a month or two. He never looks like he's
Speaker 2: brand new.
Speaker 1: Just no I have. I have zero infant experience of
Speaker 1: my own. But yeah, that baby looked much too robust
Speaker 1: to be Yeah, no, large and robust little turnip.
Speaker 2: Head A good idea to tell Claire that I've been
Speaker 2: calling you.
Speaker 1: Has she actually said what the name is? I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I don't think I know what the baby's name is,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if it's been said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what it is from reading it on
Speaker 2: lost Pedia, but I don't think she's said it out loud.
Speaker 1: She's waiting for somebody to do her a favor and
Speaker 1: then she could bestow the name. No, I think it
Speaker 1: winds up being nobody's name. What else I enjoyed At
Speaker 1: some point I'm not sure who said it, but there
Speaker 1: was a declaration made no more lies, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: thank goodness, that's it for the rest of the show.
Speaker 1: Absolutely straight. Why I you know what, just just say?
Speaker 1: You know if Locke, if Locke told the truth, nobody
Speaker 1: would believe him. Hey, you know, I was in a
Speaker 1: wheelchair and now I'm not right, But he is. He
Speaker 1: is a little off the chain, Locke. He's just he's
Speaker 1: just telling people different people, different stories. And I mean
Speaker 1: he found the plane because of a dream, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna believe that. You know, he didn't tell Sayud that,
Speaker 1: But if he had, would it have made things better?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It would have been like, well, if you're not going
Speaker 1: to tell me the truth, then don't even Yeah, but
Speaker 1: this island is weird, man, Yeah, the lies of truth?
Speaker 1: Truth is lies. How can you tell Sawyer is soothing
Speaker 1: to a baby's where this island is.
Speaker 2: A baby who grows and shrinks?
Speaker 1: Yep, time is weird on the island. Get a little
Speaker 1: to yet a little younger. Yeah, but I guess Locke
Speaker 1: has lost his little disciple. Balt has had it with him.
Speaker 1: I think he's afraid of Yes, luck, now what happened
Speaker 1: to the last young guy who went out exactly? Also,
Speaker 1: you know, Locke shows up at the funeral completely.
Speaker 2: Covered in blood, like, where have you been?
Speaker 1: Yeah? It's my fault? Yeah, my bad. But you know,
Speaker 1: the most painful thing for Walt is not losing I
Speaker 1: don't know what the age is. Maybe this isn't true,
Speaker 1: but it's not losing this guy he looked up to
Speaker 1: and enjoyed doing things with. But having to admit that
Speaker 1: his father is right.
Speaker 2: Oh no, exactly.
Speaker 1: Burned at him now he was right.
Speaker 2: You'll have to go back to playing back Kevin with Hurley.
Speaker 1: I guess, well, Hurley's good for it, we know now, yeah,
Speaker 1: we know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got some doughly what else happened in this one?
Speaker 2: You know, like there wasn't much parenting in the flashbacks?
Speaker 2: I guess that we can.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, those flashbags were bad though, that was.
Speaker 2: You know Cia, Yeah, yeah, the greater good.
Speaker 1: It's okay to be It's okay to be bad for
Speaker 1: the greater good. Apparently maybe that sort of thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Locke is being bad for the greater good? Or is he? Though? Yeah, Locke,
Speaker 1: I don't quite know what's going on with that. Dude.
Speaker 1: Why doesn't he just tell everybody about the hatch? Why
Speaker 1: does it need to be a secret because it's special
Speaker 1: because it's spoke to him? Or yeah, what's he gonna
Speaker 1: do all by himself? Right?
Speaker 2: And also he he's making your lateral decisions about what
Speaker 2: is for the greater good? You know, like him him
Speaker 2: knocking out said because of them radio transmission. He's like,
Speaker 2: I did it because I didn't think people needed to
Speaker 2: know about this transmission, like, well, okay, well why why
Speaker 2: are you the one who gets to decide that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know, it's just because he doesn't want to
Speaker 1: get off the island, right, But.
Speaker 2: Last week we talked about where is Claire getting closed
Speaker 2: for the baby? She does appear to have like a
Speaker 2: baby blanket, And then at one point someone asked Charlie like, well,
Speaker 2: it is diaper dirty, and Charlie just takes a sniff,
Speaker 2: like which is a very actually apparent thing to do,
Speaker 2: like just just you know, by nose is how you tell.
Speaker 1: Both shows we watched this week involved people smelling babies,
Speaker 1: true to determine the diaper situation.
Speaker 2: True, that's right, we will get to that tomorrow. But
Speaker 2: but yeah, they just I guess they're just telling us
Speaker 2: that there's diapers or you.
Speaker 1: Know, don't ask too many questions. It's the Magical Islands,
Speaker 1: I know it is. There's a cave full of diapers.
Speaker 2: You can get heroin, you can get coconuts, and.
Speaker 1: So that plain full of heroin is just like a
Speaker 1: ticking time.
Speaker 2: I know. Yeah, I'm worried about Charlie. Yes, that'll keep
Speaker 2: him busy for a while, it's true, But yes, that
Speaker 2: is That is unnerving knowing that that's out there, plus
Speaker 2: at least two more bodies that they haven't.
Speaker 1: Dealt with, right, Yeah, get those guys in the dirt.
Speaker 2: They've got quite this quite the cemetery they're.
Speaker 1: Going with, ye yeah, but they got their hands full.
Speaker 1: So everybody knows that the key to a locker full
Speaker 1: of guns is around Jack's neck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they mentioned this online.
Speaker 1: I thought Shannon had known that. She seems to mostly
Speaker 1: be off doing things that don't have to do with
Speaker 1: the welfare of the of the era. She hasn't been
Speaker 1: on the committee, you know, to uh, to do stuff
Speaker 1: anything at all on the committee to get a TAN exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: by Saya, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Last pedia they said something about how she somehow she
Speaker 2: found out from Kate.
Speaker 1: Okay or some point, but all right, I don't recall
Speaker 1: what had happened. So, yeah, a lot of people just
Speaker 1: spontaneously shooting or attempting to shoot people in the jungle.
Speaker 1: It never works out that well, right, although actually I
Speaker 1: guess it did for Charlie shott Ethan that worked out okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But it's always like dramatically the person you wouldn't expect
Speaker 1: to suddenly they're holding a gun, right right.
Speaker 2: And it may have you know, it worked out in
Speaker 2: terms of okay, Ethan's gone, But speaking of taking time bombs,
Speaker 2: we know he wasn't alone. So at some point it
Speaker 2: feels like somebody's gonna come looking.
Speaker 1: I wonder we got three more episodes left for the
Speaker 1: first season. When do you think.
Speaker 2: People are going to show up?
Speaker 1: I'm sure that we'll end the season with just a
Speaker 1: nice little clam bake on the beach, everybody happy to
Speaker 1: be together, warning those lost, looking forward to future adventures.
Speaker 1: There we go as the sun sets.
Speaker 2: Sounds good.
Speaker 1: And no more lies. They're all being completely honest with
Speaker 1: one another night, right right, little utopia there on the island.
Speaker 2: Right because much like parenting, you know, we know that
Speaker 2: once we solve a problem, then we're all good. From
Speaker 2: that point, we can.
Speaker 1: Go take a nap. Yeah, that's great, No problems that
Speaker 1: that nice reprobate everybody hates. We'll take care, We'll soothe
Speaker 1: the baby to sleep.
Speaker 2: That's good, no problem.
Speaker 1: So next Tuesday we will continue with season one episode
Speaker 1: twenty two, Have Lost Born to Run, which is I
Speaker 1: believe a k flashback because if you heard a future
Speaker 1: excellent and This is the last episode before the big
Speaker 1: two part season finale, so expect lots of dominoes to
Speaker 1: be set in place to be dramatically tipped in that
Speaker 1: those last two episodes all right, yay, thank you for listening.
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