Speaker 1: What's Washington, Denzel Washington. We're back with the fire Scape Pass.
It's episode one hundred and thirty one.
Speaker 2: I'm Mike Mahardier host as always. That's Daniel Reiker. I
think I kind of respect that one. It's so stupid.
It broke through to the other side, and I think
I like it. Yeah, he's smiling. Yeah, that's good. That's
Mary kish Bottom. Yeah, Mary love all of them.
Speaker 3: Thank you. If you're gonna have if your full name Daniel,
you could use my full name, Meredith.
Speaker 2: Kishler. Thank you. It's Mary short for Meredith. Is that
a thing? Yep, Yeah, you're fucking with me. It's Mary Beth.
She just doesn't like it, so I go Meredith. But
I mean it's that's a believable thing. Mary Dish married Dish.
Jesus Christ. That's fun playing hit man. I'm doing Marrakesh.
Speaker 1: I like, we'll say Marrakesh, Yeah, Marrakesh makash because.
Speaker 3: That's how you talk sometimes exactly how I pronounced my
name back, Dan, you're in Vegas.
Speaker 2: How you feeling? How you doing? I did, yeah, less
than forty eight hours there. I did the Red Eye thing,
so it's like I only got one night at the hotel. Uh.
And then I just like checked my bag and you know,
left for the airport at like nine pm. Actually stepped
on the flight for like the first time ever. I
never ever sleep on flace. You were so tired, Yeah,
because I mean, god, it's like Vegas you forget about.
Like you look at the map and it's like, oh,
the MGM Grams is right across from New York, New York,
which is right across from Mix Calber and you think
it's like next door, but these buildings are so fucking huge.
It's all like a half hour a part. So I've
gotting like thirty thousand steps today. I'm not sleeping at all.
I didn't even drink that much really, but I only ate,
like you know what I mean, that's right, Yeah that's me.
Uh No, I ate so many Sour Patch kids that
I threw up the weirdest Vegas. Yeah, it was the
next day, so I like brought it home. So I
like get home from Vegas and I wake up the
next morning fuke and sour Patch kids. That was fun.
Speaker 1: Also bringing millions to Vegas every year, strippers and cocaine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can't bring those home in your duffel
bag people.
Speaker 2: Okay, listen. I had to though, because Okay, so I
had a friend from college. It just happened to be
in town for like the fish concert at the Sphere.
And his friend, I guess, is some he's rich and
he just gets sweets for everything all the time, and
so we got a sweet for WrestleMania and he's like, hey,
I got a space for you here if you want
to hang out. And it's like, oh, I'd rather hang
out there than the press box. So I went and
hung out with them. And it was in one of
those like hospitality sweet things VIP things where it's like
they had a concession stand where everything was free, and
they had one where it was like dinner stuff, and
there had one where it was just desserts, and the
desserts had a full ass, like Blockbuster style like candy
stand like all my fair like sour Patch Kids, Skittles,
M and M's, red vines, everything. And so I just
kept going, like every time I went to take leak,
which was constant, I was just grabbing like handfuls of
candy boxes. And then at the end I went to
go pee, and I said, the lady that worked there
was like, hey, the show's almost over. Got to fill
those pockets. Fill those pockets. And I was like, hell yeah,
I got permit. I'd be rude not to so I
grabbed way more.
Speaker 3: You don't want to offend your host, no, but your pocket.
Speaker 2: It's one of those days where I ate so many
Sara Patch kids that like my entire mouth and tongue
hurt for a while. You know, we've all been there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's a mystery. What's going on with issue?
Speaker 2: It's weird that I was this morning, Yeah, replacing his teeth.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile he's just fucking chewing on sar Patch kids for forty.
Speaker 3: Eight sound an entire kid in between your gums, Dan,
it's a mystery.
Speaker 2: To everyone before, it's a total mystery to everyone. Way
And I was there this morning and I saw the
like read out of my teeth from the last X
ray and like all the other ones were like completed
crowns and stuff, like I could see they high lighted
in a certain way, and then one tooth they had
just like a lightning bolt looking like crack through it,
And I was like, what's that and is it? Oh? Yeah,
you got a fracture? And one of your teeth currently,
but it's not the top priority right now, so we'll
deal with that in like six months. It's like, oh god,
my tooth is cracking in a half and it's not
the top priority. That's a good sign.
Speaker 1: We talked about this last episode are Are Do you
think a lot of these dental issues?
Speaker 2: Did you eat a lot of candy when you were
young too? I ate more candy than normal food. I
drank more soda than water. I mean it was unbelievable
how much of the shit I ate and drink. Yeah, yeah,
so you know the cause of it. It's just like
dealing with it as an adult is there's no mystery here. Yeah, okay,
but the thing is they're also fucked now anyway that
it's just like they're all all my molars or crowns
and stuff, and crowns fail after a certain amount of time.
So like, I'm just I could have the most pristine
dental health starting now, and it's still gonna I'm gonna
have to keep doing this shit forever, so as well
just write it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I drank a decent amount of because my parents
only allowed on Fridays, which of course made me want
to sneak it other days.
Speaker 2: As I got older, as you do.
Speaker 1: But I also had a decent amount of candy, not
a ton, but more than like enough that I kind
of regret how much I ate of candy. But I
don't think it was as bad as you've described.
Speaker 2: If your childhood, oh yeah, I mean, if it was
like you know, there's like buckets of red vines like
white or the sea through buckets. I mean I could
go through an entire one of those one sitting, yeah,
you know. Or I would drink an entire two leter
of mountain dew not diet in one sitting, you know,
like with dinner A two yeah, regularly, right, that's crazy.
I usually have those because they were cheaper. My dad was,
you know, super cheap, so we would just load up
on two leaders, and so it's like, well, once it's open,
it's gonna go flat, so you gotta just drink the
whole thing red wine. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just like the American way. You get the
two leader because it's cheaper, but then you chug it
because it's gonna go flat. Then you use then you.
Speaker 2: Have I had all the tricks. They had the big
sixty four ounce thing at at seven eleven if you
could buy, and if you bought the big ass thing,
you'd get just free refills for it. So I would
just like go to the seven eleven. I would like
drive to the seven eleven just to fill it all
the way up with like Coker Mountain dew and just
go home and just chug sixty four ounces of it. Yeah,
do you have any medical issues?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Uh no, I've been cleared by all doctors as medically
pure and pervious. Yeah. Nothing can.
Speaker 1: You have been going to a lot of doctors and
texting me after saying another doctor said I'm pure, just
out of context, I'll got me hanging out with a
man on a Saturday and be like married told me
she's pure.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 3: I keep looking and they keep saying there's nothing wrong
with her. They can't find one flaw.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you texted, you texted me the you texted me
a video. You're like, should I shave my head to
be more pure? I said no, give that some time,
wait a few months, and maybe you did well.
Speaker 3: The doctor said that I should shave all my hair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a rope, put on the nikes.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like my time is coming. No one
is death impervious. Yes, not just death, but like the
heirs of death, you know, the bad joints because you
broke a bone when you were twelve, when you thought
God couldn't touch you, and now you are in danger
for sure. Now he's now, he's he's poking the bear. Yeah,
I I've told you this story. I've broke my ankles
in gymnastics and to this day, if I'm walking on
a sidewalk and it's uneven, if my ankle hits it wrong,
I'll just fall over. So that is something that happens
to me. And I think about, like, you know, when
I'm seventy or whatever, what are my ankles going to be?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Am I going to be completely wrecked? Because it feels
a little early for me to have bad ankles.
Speaker 1: But I dood died too, So you can't get that
operation that he had, did you guys?
Speaker 2: Hear about this and what the inventor of wheelies, he
Ley's the wheel in it. The discontinued to them. So
it happens when inventor, no, he died.
Speaker 1: You're doing the autopsy and they found he had installed
the wheels in his own foot, So like you can't
rely on that anymore, because no, he didn't tell anybody
how he did it, So you're gonna, yeah, you're gonna
be tripping left and right.
Speaker 3: When his casket came out, did they like lift it
and go wee?
Speaker 1: I saw someone saying, like the pall bearers better be
having a spirited discussion.
Speaker 2: They all just start gliding towards the altar.
Speaker 3: Do not invite me to your funeral because I will
have a joke in there. I can't help it, because
like that ship is so wild to me to be
the Wheelies guy and to pass away and for us
to not joke about some kind of wheelly related device.
Speaker 1: I told Amanda, I don't want to at my funeral.
I want it to be a roast of me.
Speaker 2: Oh and I wanted to be LEAs I got plenty
because you can't go too far. You can't me. I'm
already dead. Who's dying first out of us? Is it
definitely me? Or it's either super me or super not me.
You know, like it's gonna be extreme one where it is.
Speaker 3: Pistically you're the most likely, but but you know, you
just never know what's gonna happen. And I think fate
would have it that a baby grand piano will fall on.
Speaker 2: Mike's said, Yeah, I've definitely have the age disadvantage. But like,
I don't know, people in my family live pretty fucking old.
Like people like my dad, who is a million times
worse health and dietary stuff than me, has like better
blood pressure and cholesterol than I do, which is insane.
Speaker 3: He's tempered himself in two Leater bottles of soda and
a pack of cigarettes a day, and somehow just.
Speaker 2: Impervious fortified him. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think that's good advice. I
think that's what you should learn from that.
Speaker 2: It's like he's like a fine port. That's what he says.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he says when he's putting his cigarettes
out in his bed on a fine part.
Speaker 2: I say, when he does his little family guy thrust
dance every night as he goes to sleep and message
with me, knowing that he does that message every night.
Speaker 3: I also traveled. I went to Memphis, Tennessee for Beautiful.
Speaker 2: Wait that.
Speaker 1: The NBA, because the NBA is like, why the fuck
is there still a team in Memphis not Nashville.
Speaker 2: Memphis is a I don't know Memphis. I've never been.
Speaker 1: I've only ever been to Nashville and Tennessee. Been in Nashville,
not heard great things about Memphis. But you've been there,
so I'll defer to you.
Speaker 3: I've been to both, and I think it's probably hard
to be Nashville's baby, bro. Yeah, but Memphis has its
own barbecue journey, it has its own music. I listened
to live music every night. It was actually really good,
no cover, just good musicians, which I thought was pretty entertaining.
And uh, and that's where Saint Jude is and so
we like did the tour and stuff. I agree with you.
I think it's hard to probably compare it to Nashville,
but I didn't hate it. And I saw a lot
of older couples on vacation. You could tell that they
were from out of town just because of the way
they were dressed in their like coup lots and their
little khaki shorts and all the men look the same
with their hat and sunglasses, but the.
Speaker 2: T shirts the guys were, they have the UV protection.
Speaker 3: You could spot them a mile away. And uh, there
was there was dozens of these like old happy, you know,
white couples everywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you go to the bass pro shops. Pyramid.
Speaker 3: Oh I did that the first time. I did not
go this time. I feel like once you've seen sure
the Pyramid Brass Bass Probe shop, you don't technically need
to go back, but it is it is a surreal
experience to go and like see their you know, they
have like live gators and like huge tanks, a shoot
like a gun you'd shoot, like a shooting range, and
a bowling alley and a really nice restaurant at the
top which I ate at, which was like unnecessary.
Speaker 1: To climb up the side get there, like buy a section,
a suction cup, garfield things. Yeah, talking about biack of Siwa,
just fucking sprinting up it.
Speaker 2: Uh. Mary. I had a weird moment when we were
doing a stream while you were out of town on
Giant Bomb, and you were in the chat briefly and
we saw you like post a couple of messages to it.
It was like near the end of the stream, and
then we're like we ended the stream and we always
like look, you know, we go off the air and
then we come back up and we say like, okay,
let's find someone to raid. And we looked and on
the home page of Twitch, you were live on stage
and say, dude's doing like a game show thing. It
was like, wait, you were just posting in the chat
five minutes ago. What the hell?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I might be chronically online, but I do.
I think part of my job is to like just
see how things are going on Twitch, and so I'm
on there a lot. But yeah, we go to Saint
Jude every year. That's funny. We go to Saint Jude
every year to do a live game show or like
some kind of show. And what we usually do is
we donate to streamers charity funds for Saint Jude. Because
all these like one hundred and fifty streamers go there,
they do a tour, they like meet the doctors and
the children, and then they go raise money and it's crazy.
They've raised like eighty million dollars for Saint Jude. It's
it's insane. Yeah, And every year Twitch goes and we
kind of like suckle off of their goodwill and say,
we will give you guys some donations to your amazing
charity dollars and we support them as they do good.
So I think, like I probably was waiting to go
on the show and was watching you guys and was like,
this is a fun game hahaha, and then literally had
to get on stage and do this game show the concept,
which we called Saint Jude Feud. We pulled one hundred
streamers a bunch of questions and then just like Saint
Jude rules, we made them hit a buzzer to answer
what they thought out of the hundred was the most
popular answer to the question. And then that person out
of one hundred votes, so like family feud, right, yeah,
so yeah, so it's like, uh, you know what, what
would you not want to see if you robbed somebody's
house and the guy was like, naked grandma, That's what
it is. But maybe like fifteen people say that, maybe
nobody says that, and that's an anyway, I have the questions,
and I was I was thinking, what if I asked
you guys wanted pase saw what you guys thought.
Speaker 2: I will compete. I'll be a family reker again, but.
Speaker 1: Don't tell us the options. I feel like we could
probably do it without the Yeah, the choice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna tell you the question and you have
to literally say wait and I'll pick you and then
you have to give me an answer. Now I'm going
to give you one caveat.
Speaker 2: This is like going to be my be helpful. If
we're ever training for a game show.
Speaker 3: It's going to be it's going to be like a clue.
But it's important for you to understand that. You might say, well,
everybody knows that the answer should be X, but I
want to be very clear. We pulled one hundred streamers.
Speaker 2: So they're gonna be weird answers because streamers are weird.
But it's all a ballerino cappuccino, right.
Speaker 3: Who's to say?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: But that is your hints so that I want you
to understand that answers might be different because we pulled
streamers for the answers. Are you ready to play?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And by the way, my buzzer is going to
be the first, just so you know who that is.
They got far noise in my mouth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully you can tell a difference because mine are
really realistic.
Speaker 3: Okay, your question is name a video game character who
is associated with the color green?
Speaker 2: Did you hear that?
Speaker 3: Did you actually part?
Speaker 2: I have been saving that for like ten minutes. It's like,
I don't know if I'm why I would.
Speaker 3: Need this, but I might, I mean really farting deserves
the first one, so go ahead.
Speaker 2: Fuck, I don't even Bowser.
Speaker 1: It's a no that that's just not the first one.
Speaker 3: It's it's not so it's not listed. I know the
rules in this game really well.
Speaker 2: This did not come up and can steal now.
Speaker 3: Dan canow stie. I will also state for the record
that I find Bowser to be mostly orange. His back
is green, but he's a very light.
Speaker 2: Oh no, very yellow on the spot. Though I said it,
You also on.
Speaker 3: The spot farted, which is very impressive. The answer the
question now goes to Dan. Name a video game character
who's associated with the color green.
Speaker 2: Now, there are two very obvious ones here. I am
curious which one would be. They're both right now, you're insane.
I don't know which one would have more. But I'm
gonna I'm gonna take a wild card here. I'm gonna say, Yoshi.
Oh the.
Speaker 3: That's our number two spot.
Speaker 2: Okay, number two. Now do I get to keep going?
And see?
Speaker 3: If so, you get to keep going? So those are
the rules of feud. Is we go to your family,
which is you because you guys are both alone, and
you get the points. Yoshi was our number two most
voted answer at eighteen. So there's ones voted higher and
there's several voted lower. If you get three x's at all,
it goes to bike and Mike can steal and win
it from you.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay, I got this all right. So
I'm gonna go with the one that is. I assume
number one. Oh yeah, Delli, yeah, Ding.
Speaker 3: Luigi is the number one ghost Luigi voted with twenty twenty,
So Luigi is twenty. Yoshi was eighteen. You still have
the floor. You are in the lead, all right.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with master Chief Ding.
Speaker 3: Master Chief was number four, okay, fourteen.
Speaker 2: There's a three and how many? There's a how many blanks?
Outer three? Five? I assume eight. Oh god, okay, So
here's what up. Because like it's Twitter streamers, I assume Pokemon,
and I assume there has to be a green Pokemon.
You never know who's to say Pikachu's yellow, Charmander is orange.
Squirtle and bulbous Sore are both blue. I don't know
what the fucking green Pokemon would be. There any Sonic characters.
Green fuck Herby's not green o ge Kermit's not a
video game guy for the most part, master Chief, there's
eight eight, there's five fucking Pokemon on there. Why did
I say that, Mike? Mike's young, he knows Pokemon. Fuck,
he's gonna run the table with Pokemon. Fuck.
Speaker 3: I think you got so You've done one, two, and
four so far.
Speaker 2: It did stupid that. The next one in my mind
this is not a guest, is booger Man and then
vector Man, which I don't think that's what these twenty
year old Twitter streamers are picking. Uh yeah, those arm picks.
It actually is, because I'm just making conversation. Yes, a
final answering, final different game show.
Speaker 3: Really, man, you're not good at game shows.
Speaker 1: Okay, hey, reptile, what the Actually that just reminded me
of another one that but I don't think Twitch streamers
would think this far back, reptile.
Speaker 2: The reptile reminded me of a different character. Oh okay, okay, okay, Fuck,
they're finding characters that are green, jack, Wow, why is
this as hard? There should be more Nintendo characters that
are green.
Speaker 3: I mean you're missing a few characters. There's like you're
missing some stuff here, get one.
Speaker 2: More guess And then it goes to me, just so
to cut down on dead air.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, I don't think I'm going to get any.
Speaker 2: And you know, maybe bulbosars green.
Speaker 1: I feel like he's blue. It's a character who's associated
with green. Uh yeah Cowardice, oh Wright, No, Cowardice is yellow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're thinking too deeply.
Speaker 3: Any any way you do this, you're wrong?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, give you like fifteen more seconds. See if
I wish I could just look at my games. You
have your ambo nearby? Are they? No? They're not in
this room?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: There any green ambo? Why aren't there green video game characters?
Haven't three? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Only those three? So weird?
Speaker 2: God damn it. I don't think I'm going to be
in Gordon Framans not green. Call of Duty guys wear
green camo. That's stupid. Though.
Speaker 3: You also got already got master Chief I did, which
is really smart, and that was kind of like the
iconic one from that series. So that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: I got the Halo guy, pretty big series. I'm missing
one from a video or Halo. You're missing one from
a big series? Yes, when there's Elder scrolls and what
are the big series? Fortnite?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Greeney mcgreenson from Fortnite big.
Speaker 2: Resident Evil doesn't have a green guy Sonic doesn't have
a green with Sonic is like a weird I'm gonna
k rule. Okay, that's his last game. Go ahead away
link from Legend of Zelda.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dang man, Mike has stolen the board and won
all the points.
Speaker 1: I'm also going to say Bulbasar because although he's largely blue,
I still think he's associated with plant with plant Pokemon,
which is green, the color green.
Speaker 3: You're so fucking it's very embarrassing for you.
Speaker 2: Wait, do I like Zelda way more than Dan.
Speaker 3: I think it's possible that the pressure of the game
show just doesn't jive with you, Dan, and.
Speaker 2: Much doesn't work. It's so much funnier than that. It
was a Nintendo character to Dan, I think we're looking
at that motherfucker than any other video game character.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you like games, uh no, I
will tell you the final list. It's very funny, and
that is how the game works. So you won because
you stole and the rest don't matter. But I'm gonna
read them to you because I think they're very funny.
One is Luigi with twenty votes. Two was Yoshi eighteen votes.
Three was Link with sixteen votes. Four was master Chief
with fourteen votes. Here's the ones you guys didn't care.
Five was Hulk with twelve votes.
Speaker 2: That's a game, not a video game character. He games, Marl,
what's the phrase? What's the phrase? You guys? He's in
Giant Bomb know something? Oh, that's some of the gokus. Yeah, like,
he's not video games. Yeah, I played this in a
million games, but it's not video game character.
Speaker 3: Well, according to this list he is.
Speaker 2: Well then in that case, six Blanca from.
Speaker 1: He's just a big green guy green lantern or green
goblin in there too, because so green.
Speaker 3: No, he's the only one that made it in Marvels,
which I found really interesting. But Blanco when I like
when someone when when it flipped, it went, oh my god,
I can't.
Speaker 2: He's the most dreamed character.
Speaker 3: Streamers have some like age to them, right, Like a
lot of them are O G gamers, and so they know.
Speaker 2: That stuffs probably still around in current probably I think so.
Speaker 3: But I think it's very like classic to me. I
don't know, very No. There's two more. Are you ready?
Seven is Tingle okay? That's reasonable? Oh yeah, the most
famous and uh eight Zits from Battle Toads specifically.
Speaker 2: Wow, there are three battle toads and they're all green.
Speaker 3: Very specifically. Yeah, I think I think it's a really
funny list. I was laughing when we did these. I
have several more. I'll send them to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was laughing because I think what's hilarious about them
is because streamers wrote them down. I feel like there's
a world in which you'd be like, that's impossible, why
would people pick this? It's so stupid, and then you'd
be like, oh, right, streamers voted on this, so of
course one of them voted for Zits from Battle Toe.
He's the most iconic green character. So it's like really
hard to win. But I think they're really funny.
Speaker 2: See if Mike can get one real quick, and I'll
try to steal from him.
Speaker 3: If you can't, Oh okay, you want me to do
another one? I like this, Yeah, yeah, okay, let me
read what. Let me kind of read through them. Give
me you guys talk about something while I read these
real quick. Just make sure I give you a good one,
because some of them are bad.
Speaker 2: Man. I was just running through Super Smash Bros. Characters
like I have I have a whole shelf dedicated to
Link Ambos. I own own room.
Speaker 3: You were looking around the room for green items.
Speaker 2: I have a drink green wall. I swear to god.
I have not looked at any video game character more
than I've looked at like maybe Mario. But holy shit,
Link is like, oh my god, how did I not
think of that? I got? I just went to Bowser
even though only his show is green. Yeah, I guess
that's true. I do think of him as green though. Yeah.
I think he's a big green dragon. He's just spinning
around his shell. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then I was going to Super Smash Bros. And I
was going through them. But it's funny. I think my
modern image of Link from Super Smash Bros. Is in
the Breath of the Wild Tunic.
Speaker 2: Oh the Blue. Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna look up green
Pokemon here. Okay, you got Bulboustor is listed as green? Really,
he's so green? Is like as some people use it
interchangeably for plant damage. Okay, that's Quasa sprigatus. It's all
the green starters you can go through. Oh that weird
shell at a mommey guy pod.
Speaker 3: You guys wanted to be video game related or can
it be just like life related.
Speaker 2: That streamers related.
Speaker 1: Hey, either is fine, okay, I have have hard and
then he becomes the moth.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I wonder how you guys are going
to react to this. Oh god, oh good, I know
you guys are gonna think this is great. You're gonna
be like annoyed. Okay, Uh, buzzers ready, not yet, load
your butt.
Speaker 2: This is my buzz you're finding buzzer. You shove it
up your ass.
Speaker 3: Perfect, Okay, name a famous captain.
Speaker 2: You shove it up your ass? Can I go? Yeah?
Oh did you think? Oh I think you discordate your thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry sorry, uh Captain Jack Sparrow ding ding ding.
Speaker 3: This is a number four most popular answer from streamers.
So that is that is technically the truth. Dan. You
can steal it by getting the number like a like
the number one higher number one. Now he didn't get
the number one. You can try now crunch it's number two. Yeah,
that's a better answer.
Speaker 2: When okay, I don't Captain Falcon up there? Oh yeah,
I guarantee you is ding ding ding.
Speaker 3: Captain Falcon is number eight.
Speaker 1: Good job or captain? What was What's the movie with
Tom Hanks? Is I'm the captain now, Captain Phillips, Captain Philip.
What is that called Captain Phillips?
Speaker 2: So isn't it that?
Speaker 3: I think it's funny which ones they like know and
which ones? Yeah, kangaroo, that's a no, that's not show
the sixties.
Speaker 2: I would assume they didn't say captain a hab but maybe.
Speaker 3: The it's on here, Yeah, number number seven, it's above falcon.
Speaker 2: Oh, what the hell would number one be? Captain? Oh Kirk,
Captain Kirk.
Speaker 3: You know what it's It's so shocking. Kirk is not
on here, but card is not on here.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: But there is a very famous captain that you guys
are totally overlooking. And when I say it, you'll be like,
oh my god, the emotional character.
Speaker 1: Yes, fictional captain, video game character, movie character, TV all,
where's the original?
Speaker 2: Where tod originate?
Speaker 3: I won't. I can't tell you.
Speaker 2: Well, I want to move, I want to keep things moving.
I'm trying to host.
Speaker 3: You have to think captain the most famous captain character. Oh,
that's good, that's that's not it. That's not the number
one on the list. Uh No, he didn't make it.
We hate him. Uh.
Speaker 2: I am really drawn in blank. I don't know what
is it.
Speaker 4: He hangs out with a bunch of kids, kangaroos, such conviction.
Speaker 2: I think it might be kangaroo You might be misreading it.
Speaker 3: I mean he hangs out with old people, but he
likes he like wants to like get to those kids.
Speaker 2: You know, Hook.
Speaker 3: Kids Captain number one, that's number one.
Speaker 2: What has Hook had a resurgence online?
Speaker 3: I think that Captain Hook is always famous because that's
like one of the best stories of all time.
Speaker 2: I don't really understand the story. I've never can complexes man,
I've never taken in Peter pan media.
Speaker 1: Hook.
Speaker 2: We watched Hook a lot growing up, but that was
in the like nineties early. I haven't seen Hook. I
haven't seen whatever cartoon that's good, terrifying. They put a
guy in a what PG movie?
Speaker 1: They put a guy in a fucking treasure chest and
then they fill it with scorpions.
Speaker 2: You hear him fucking screaming, it's cool.
Speaker 3: Get killed, shocking, so good, the guy with.
Speaker 2: The fucking cool Okay, yeah, stupid, I fucking.
Speaker 3: Tour Captain Captain Crunch.
Speaker 2: Said that that's what we see.
Speaker 3: Captain Morgan, Captain Yeah four, Captain Jack Sparrow, five Captain Underpants,
six Captain Blackbeard, seven Captain Ahab, and eight Captain Falcon.
Those were.
Speaker 1: I know, where are you in the Sopranos Season two?
What was the last episode?
Speaker 2: Eight? They're trying to go to college? Is trying to
get meda one to college and oh and someone got
shot at the end and it is currently in the hospital.
Oh yeah, yeah, okay, big Garage.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, by by a guy whose last name
starts with Jizz.
Speaker 2: I don't know his last name, but totally totally shot him. Yeah,
the Malaqua and just Monty whatever, those two morons. Yeah,
but they call him drink Water. It's still great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, still really, Joe, I'm waiting until after I take
this test. Oh, I have some travel coming up. And
this is really funny. It's the most fucking me thing ever.
On May eighteenth, I'm going to a reaseling camp.
Speaker 2: I'm not joking. Finger Lakes.
Speaker 1: It's a finger Lakes Wine Alliance got like eighteen wineries
to agree to basically do this thing. They just you apply,
and twenty four of us from around the country got
in and we go up for like three and a
half straight days of vineyard tours, talking to wine makers,
going through the cellars, doing blending classes, seminars, panels with
a bunch of wine makers up in the finger Lakes,
which I used to say it's an upcoming region, but
if you hadn't had much Finger Lakes wine, there's a
lot of really good stuff there, like cool climate wines.
So I'm looking forward to it. We get a sign
like a quote unquote Buddy Winery. They're kind of like
our mentors while we're there, so I'm really excited.
Speaker 2: I'm also going to have to we'll bunk up because
I'm one of the twenty four. That would be the funniest.
You just show up and I'm there, you're my mentor.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm gonna try you how to grow, and then
you check the note riling.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be great.
Speaker 1: If I'm excited for it, it's gonna be It's gonna
be fun. It's a lot of stuff I've been wanting
to do and try out, so I'm glad I get
to go.
Speaker 2: Up for it. Staying on song.
Speaker 1: Three and a half days. Okay, Well, I'm going up
a day early to go visit the Buddy Winery. I
got a sign to meet them, before things get crazy.
But then it's like seven am to seven pm every.
Speaker 2: Day, Okay, drinking fun. I wish just just reestling, drinking competition, just.
Speaker 3: Chugging, reestling, that's what you do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, i'd be sick. I'll look forward to that.
Can't wait.
Speaker 1: But yeah, in the meantime, I don't have travel coming up,
but it's kind of nice, and that's just to drive
up four hours north.
Speaker 3: I want to have travel coming up. I'm good for
a couple of weeks, but I'm gonna have so much
travel and I'm like stressed about it when I think
about it because I like being home. It's such a
lovely time to be here. I like being.
Speaker 2: Home the same thing where it's like that's part of
like why I love living here is like when it's bad,
it's bad weatherwise, but when it's good, it's the most
beautiful ship. And then it's like travel always happens just
like during like the best months. God damn it. Yeah. Yeah,
so i'll be out next episode. I've got some big
travel coming up.
Speaker 3: So I'm excited for you in your travel, but you
will be missed and we'll have a really good guest
that knows that link is green, and I think that
will be to be fair.
Speaker 2: There's the red mail, there's the Blue mail, and yeah,
you know Breunics the first well, the mail and then
the link the past. But the sum yeahtain Kangaroo.
Speaker 1: You guys want to talk about video games? All right,
and we're back Dan. You've been playing some Sorrows?
Speaker 2: Yes, the follow up from Housemark, who had made Returnal.
Speaker 3: So excited about this, tell tell me of the.
Speaker 1: Game of the Year twenty twenty one. First, Yes, follow
up to.
Speaker 2: It is fantastic, and like, I want to preface this
for sure with the fact that I'm not far in
this game at all. I maybe, yeah, I've been like
five maybe six runs. I I've gotten to the boss
of the first kind of biome like a couple of times.
But yeah, I I I I don't want to give
any like final Like, here's what I think of this game.
I'm going to say, so far, it is very much
a follow up to Returnal. I'd say the main differences
I've seen is that there is an actual persistent skill
tree of like you know, actual upgrades that you are
getting as you go. There is more interplay with like
there is the shield that is liken't know if you
want to play Bikaruga, but it's like, you know, certain
like colored orbs of projectiles, like you know, the blue
ones you can kind of absorb with your shield and
charge up like your weapons and things like that, and
you can also repel certain things. So there's there's some
more like kind of color coded projectile stuff going on
in this one. It reminded me of Doom the Dark
Ages a bit sure, a little bit baying it. I
think I'd like it better in this, Like I don't know,
it seems a little more refined in this and like
just kind of particle effects and like the the way
they've made bullet held patterns in a three D.
Speaker 1: Space just I mean, yeah, he moves. He moves super well,
just as well as Selene was her name. I think
Selene did an incredible feeling game. I've done like two runs.
I will say. I think it's funny. I was hearing
people from my day job saying that a few of
them didn't find the long term progression satisfying and eternal.
I didn't realize that was like a persistent criticism, and
it feels like sorrows with that.
Speaker 2: That progression tree is kind of an answer to that. Yeah,
I mean there is a thing like any.
Speaker 3: Times progression after you die. Just trying to clarify for
those of us, you know in the audience that haven't
played this and are jealous, how I don't know anything
about this. You're getting to keep your you get to
keep some of your.
Speaker 2: Skills forever, right, Well, you are getting currency as you
kill you find things and kill things and everything during
the runs, and you bring it back and you lose
a certain percentage of it, and I think actually one
of the upgrades is to kind of keep more of it.
Think like in Rogue Legacy and you had to like
pay the guy, the boat guy a certain amount. Yeah, yeah,
it's like that. And then the skilter is pretty basic
from what I have done so far, which it gates
at like like I can't go further until I beat
the first boss, and all of my upgrades so far
have been like, oh, I'm going to get more of
this currency as I play, my my health you know,
gets restored more with it. It's some pretty basic skiltery stuff.
Early on I have you're doing from the.
Speaker 3: Same beginning again and again and again. Every time you
die you get to the same.
Speaker 2: Level kind of Yeah, it's the biome thing where it's
like it's it's all gonna be kind of this craggy,
kind of mountainous. Uh, it's kind of very red and
gray the biome, and it's going to like mix and
match the rooms the way Returnal did. So, same biome
each time, same kind of room layouts, but just kind
of like set down in a different you know, like
like like Carcasson if anyone's ever played that, it's like
same pieces, but you can put it together in.
Speaker 1: Different I'm also seeing stuff similar to Returnal where it's
like I don't even have the item like a permanent
progression item y open doors or chests, et cetera. I
know how to get to that if there is a
way for me to get to that, it's not a
parent yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll see stuff where it's like, oh, I'm seeing
these glowy dots on these high up things and it's like, well,
obviously I'm gonna get some sort of like grappling hook
thing or whatever, and they like open up that progression,
but I haven't gotten there yet. Lots of like you know,
side rooms and things like that where you're getting audio
logs and stuff like that. There's seems like there might
be more lore in this game. There's more actual like
characters when you go back to your hub area that
you can interact with. So it seems in spirit a
lot like Returnal, but it seems like a lot of
stuff is fleshed out a bit more, you know, But again,
still very early. I'm curious to see if the skill
tree expands to be more than you know, just kind
of basic like health in that upgrades and things like that.
I assume it will for sure, but yeah, still to her.
Speaker 3: How's the boss fight that you're stuck on tough?
Speaker 2: I mean, I've just done it like twice, died both times.
But I'm starting to, like, you know, you figure out
each time you go back, it's like, okay, with by
standing these plants that slows me down. Oh, this pattern
of attacks is this way this way, and then I
blocked this one. So it's just gonna be a matter
of like getting back there and knowing it a little
more each time. So I have a feeling I'm really
really going to wind up liking this game, but it's
just like I'm not fully in the like, oh, it's
fully clicked yet thing you know. Mm hmmm, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Will say, like like anything house Marks ever made, it
feels incredible.
Speaker 2: I don't know what. I haven't played Returnal in a
long time.
Speaker 1: I've been meaning to go back and try it and
co op since they added that, like what a year
and a half, two years after it came out or
something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, me to try that.
Speaker 1: And I loved how Selene moved, but I remember certain
times it felt like her acceleration was not as fast
as I would.
Speaker 2: Like it to.
Speaker 1: Sorrow's feels a bit twitchier in the acceleration way.
Speaker 2: I like.
Speaker 1: Just to say, like, I feel like he's even more
responsive than Selene was in some ways.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, the jump dash and like all that stuff
is great. I actually swapped like default is L one
is dash and R one is melee, and I don't know,
our one dash felt a lot better than me, so
I swapped that if anyone, well, isn't that isn't.
Speaker 1: That the dash? In what's the geometry? A wards looking
game that you were up to your isn't that the
dash thing?
Speaker 2: I mean, you can make it whatever you want. I
usually have it on like RT I have it on
RT and or B Yeah, okay, yeah, I was. I
was wondering if your muscle memory acclimated to that game.
I just like our one. I like our one. Band
of Dash Yeah yeah, yeah, very very very promising start,
and I'm sure I'm gonna have a lot more to
say about it.
Speaker 3: I'm excited. I really want to get my hands on it.
Very jealous.
Speaker 1: That sounds what Yeah, I told you this is in
the discord. The fuck.
Speaker 3: A lot by play really important games too.
Speaker 1: So Nemo and the Guardians of Slumberland hit me with that, right.
Speaker 3: Sit down. If you guys are really excited about, where's
for that game?
Speaker 2: And who's your pr contact? Where's the code for that one? No,
maybe it's a great game. Who knows? So cute?
Speaker 3: It's it's pretty cute, little Nemo in the Guardians of Slumberland.
Speaker 1: That's That's like when I was talking about a fucking
what was that, like high brow strategy game, I was
talking about Dan's like, oh yellow.
Speaker 3: Yeah ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But just the structure of the game.
Speaker 1: Is it talking about how you repeatedly return to past
traumas like sorrow says, what.
Speaker 2: Does it play with the Yellow keg and Carcosa, just like.
Speaker 3: If you get hit too many times, you wake up
and then you have to.
Speaker 2: Get back Nemo. No, I don't care.
Speaker 3: Then in his little jam Jams, you're a little Nemo.
This is a metroid vania. It is hand drawn animation,
which I love. It's it's so cute looking, but it
is vicious. It's not an easy game. I was surprised
with how difficult it is because you're only allowed to
get You get three hearts in most of this game,
and so getting hit twice, you know, after the third
you get knocked conscious, so you wake up in bed.
You basically fall out of bed. You need to go
back into your bed and go back to sleep, to
go back to Guardians of Slumberland. And in this metroid
like a game, you essentially start with no skills or tactics,
and overtime you'll acquire maybe like a which will give
you a better attack, and then eventually your yo yo
will be able to let you grapple, and then you'll
be able to jump on different walls for access. You're
getting the Guardian's scepters back. For anybody like me who
remembers Little Nemo the movie when I.
Speaker 2: Was growing up games as Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Think this is made in the vein. I didn't play
Little Nemo in NES, so maybe you could love it.
Speaker 2: Capcom game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's played because I didn't play it, but I
watched Little Nemo the movie growing up and I thought
it was sick. Tell me about the NES game.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you're a little dude who's like sleeping or
asleep or in a dream. It's like Little Nemo the
dream Master, and you go around and you're in pajamas
and you feed candy to like like friendly like dinosaurs
and dragons and frogs and stuff like that, and then
you can ride them. Basically, it's awesome. It's really would
say it's a capcom anis game. I did not realize.
I'm looking at the Wikipedia now. It was based on
There was a nineteen eighty nine animated film. It is
based on that, and that film is based on a
comic strip. So apparently Little Nemo is just an old
ass property that they made some games and movies off of.
Speaker 3: That's so cool. I feel like this is a love letter,
Like I feel like this is This feels a lot
more solo driven.
Speaker 1: It's candy line biome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're on You're on the trop.
Speaker 1: A dinosaur and a castle. Oh fore castle you could.
Speaker 3: Sell made by you know, a very tiny team of
one and uh. The last The other thing I do
want to mention is the the soundtrack is by the
guy from Anamanagucci who uh made Scott Pilgrim versus the
World the game great soundtrack, banger soundtrack. I couldn't believe it.
I was in this like gun drop Land, and I
was like, I was like getting down to the beats
uh fantastic uh music accompaniment. I was surprised with the
level of care and quality in this game. That being said,
this game is frustrating to get through because the difficulty
curve is wild for a game that feels like it
should be for kids. I was shocked that it's very
difficult to get health upgrades, so you're essentially like only
ever able to take to damage before you wake up
and have to redo the entire area before you get
all of your upgrades and can fast travel. You just
have to redo that area like six or seven times,
which I think is pretty grading. There's been times in
this game where I have had to take a deep
breath and been like, I don't know if I can
go on it was a bit grading sometimes, but I
will still state for the record that I think it's
a beautiful, cute, very curious little game with a banger soundtrack.
And I think people who are fans of Little Nemo,
maybe from the NS game or from the movie like
when I was growing up, I think this will like
tickle your nostalgia bone and like you will get a
good enjoyment.
Speaker 2: Out of this nice. Yeah, I really did love the
NS game and just the setting was unique, and yeah,
I did like that quite a bit. It was not
a Metroid vany It was more of a standard platformer,
but I see that working with Metrovania, this is.
Speaker 3: By all means it is a platformer, right, But like
there are areas where you just cannot get until you
have upgraded your Yo yo thus Metroidvania. But like by
and far I you suffer the most being like uh,
like there's like this area where there's like mushrooms, and
if you eat a mushroom, all of your controls are backwards,
so hitting forward makes you go backwards hitting you know
what I mean, And like that'll mess you up for
a while to me, even though that's cheeky and fun.
I was getting so frustrated dying and having to restart
these long platforming stretches, and I love platforming games, so
for me to get frustrated, I was like, it's a
bit grading, but I still played through it. I still
wanted to get through it and see all the guardians,
So I don't know, like it's it's good. I think uh.
I think the ost and just the hand drawn animations
are like the winds for me. But it had some
grading elements, just with like the difficulty, and you know,
the curve and the boss fights kind of sometimes were
so odd. Anyway, the soundtrack I lived it was really surprised.
I don't know, when you're like in a fucking gum
gum drop kingdom, you just don't expect the music to
be good. I don't know how to just I don't
know how to say that without sounding mean, but I
thought the music would be like done Dune, Dune, dun
dun d you know, like something really stupid and boring
and simple, and the music is like, uh, who know,
it's like fucking catchyes, ol nice?
Speaker 1: All right, Dan, You've also been playing something called scam Line.
Speaker 2: Yes, this is very much in the vein of I
guess you could throw it him with a friend slob category,
but it's a different style thing and say, it's more
kind of deception based a lot of lying to your
friends stuff. So it's four to eight players we played
with god, we might have had a full eight on
Giant Bomb and it was incredible. But let's say it
was us four. We all are in a room. It
looks like a jail cell, and there's like basically like
a chalkboard and a phone on there, and it will
cycle through a bunch of little games and kind of
keep score throughout until the end and then ta it up.
So it's like, imagine a bunch of little mini games.
So the first one could be like all right, it
put like we would basically only hear each other through
the end game thing, you know, prox chat and stuff
like that, so it would disguise our voice so you
can call any never. So like you, let's see you
wake up in the room. You see you have a
number one on the wall, and you can pick up
the phone and be like doing a dial room two,
three four, And it doesn't say who's in it, so
I don't know who I'm calling, and it is doing
a voice modifier, like a witness protection thing on it.
So you're kind of trying to figure out, like it's
better to play with your friends because it's like there's
certain like kind of vocal patterns and things like that.
It's like, oh, that's Mary, that's Mary I'm talking to
right now, and so like you're going to the chalkboard
and you're trying to say, like, Okay, room two is Mary,
room three is Mike, and you're trying to kind of
disguise your own pattern of speaking and everything. So like
that's one, for instance. There's another one where it's like
the prisoner's dilemma thing where it's like I'm gonna call
Mary and you know it's me, and it's like, hey, Mary,
if we both press the green button, we will each
get three points. If we both press the red button
will get one point each. But Mary, if you press
green and I do red, you get or vice versa,
you get five points. So it's like, Okay, does a
behoove us to you know, work together and get the
three points or do you want to lie to me
and get the five There is one fucked up one
that was just like I just started with a gun,
and it was just like, you got a gun, do
what you want with it. And I realized I could
leave my cell and so I was like, oh god.
And so everyone else is just like picking up phone
and calling each other and they don't know what's going on.
So I just walked into door. No, I opened someone's
door and just stared at him with a gun for
a little bit. And I could hear them be like
who whoa wa whoa hang on no, no, no no,
And I just like shut the door and backed away,
and I just walk into Jan's room. I just see
him as back to the door. He's talking on the phone.
So I'm like, I don't know. I don't have a gun.
I don't know. And he turns around and he just
goes shit and I just shoot, just blast them.
Speaker 1: I don't know how this scoring works from that, it's
doing like Russian Roulette too.
Speaker 2: Yes, there is a Russian roulette one where you're all
just out in the hallway with a gun and since
there's six bullets, it's like, okay, so if I pull
the trigger, now there's a you know, fifteen percent, twenty
percent or whatever that it's going to be an active round.
And every time you pull the trigger, it's like okay,
and it's now down to fifty to fifty, there's two
bullets left, and you can like aim at yourself and
like ah, you know deer hunter style and Jesus yeah.
So a lot of just weird, fucked up things like that,
and then there's ones where it's like, okay, whoever gets
closest to the middle number uh wins and whoever writes
it on their chalkboard in their cells. So I can
like call Mary and be like, all right, Mary, let's
it'd be funny. Let's both do sixty nine okay. And
then I can call Jake and be like, okay, let's
do four twenty or you know, Mike, let's do something crazy.
Let's do like a million. And I can like if
I convinced you all to do that, and it's like, okay,
everyone thinks I'm doing this. I can try to get
in the middle. There so just a lot of weird
like how can you cleverly lie to your friends and
how well do you know them and can tell if
they're lying to you or not. So it was very
very clever because I think a lot of friends slap
stuff is kind of more like you've got a simple task,
whether it's climb this mountain or go into this place
and put a bunch of stuff in a wagon. And
this was more just kind of classic deception lying with
some fun twists on it, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I like the idea that it's like among
us meets I don't know, it's like among us but
more fucked up. And I think it sounds like a
bit more. It's not the same game over and over.
Speaker 2: There's different, a little bit of squid game vibes going on. Yeah,
and it's just a lot of room for just being
goofy and fact. Like, you know, I was trying to
be Mike Manatti and calling everyone and like I was
like singing little mermaid songs and.
Speaker 1: Did anybody did anybody like really effectively convince someone they
were someone else?
Speaker 2: I feel like Grub was doing a good job of
like lying and sorry. I think Grub was kind of
working everyone in a pretty clever way. Bailey Myers did
a great job. I think Bailey destroyed us at the
Prisoner's Dilemma game because you can see everyone scores, so
it's like you're making all these deals with everyone and
you're like, Okay, wait, if everyone's actually telling me the
truth and we're all hitting the green button together, we'd
all have roughly the same score. But then when I
look and like most of us have five and Bailey
has seventeen, it's like, oh, she's fucking work, and everyone
like okay, yeah, yeah, that's fun, it's very cool. Yeah.
I don't think I'm good at lying, though I would
probably suck it. I'm not either, because it's like you
do these earnest calls where it's gonna be talking to
Grub or something, and it's like, Okay, hey, we're really
gonna do this, right, We're not fucking with each other.
We're both gonna press this, We're both we're gonna tell
Mike this thing or whatever. And then it's like I
can't just lie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So maybe I'm all already playing the game when
I say I'm not a good liar right now.
Speaker 2: Maybe I am Raven Jim who made it.
Speaker 3: Dan, let's vote Mike off.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm ok with that. Yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 1: Mary, you've also been playing Gecko Gods. Oh that was
another character. Is gonna mention earlier that I associated green
is Geks but I can't imagine a stream.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could come up. People brought up gets when
I was streaming this. Gecko Gods is a game where
you play Gecko that can stick to all these walls,
and there's no predators as far as I'm aware, nothing
like violent that can hurt you. It's environmental puzzles and
you're essentially walking through the area pulling levers, pointing lights
towards something or getting a ball to drop into a
vessel by you know, moving mechanisms around with your little
lizard body.
Speaker 2: This sounds like a classic video game series Zelda. Sorry
famously Green protagonist link. I know what this game too.
Speaker 3: But it is. It is Wind has a wind Waker boat.
Speaker 2: Okay, so what happened?
Speaker 3: Like the very first island, when you solve it, it
unlocks a boat, and then you take the boat to
other islands and solve their puzzles, which I really really like.
There's like no text in this game. It's all visual
Q based. I got stuck a couple of times because
I was like, I genuinely don't know what to do
and there's no hint system or like guide. Uh, there
is a map, and the map will give you Hey,
your goal is to point all the lights in this
direction or to open up this gate. Other than that,
it's up to you. Lots of secrets. Everywhere I crawled,
I would find a little hole, a little nook, and
it would lead me to some secret treasure in some
area that I had to discover. I've really enjoyed this
game in terms of, like, I've been under a lot
of stress right lately. This has been my cathartic steam
deck couch. I'm gonna relax and play this game. I
truly love this game, and I think it's enjoyable for
people who just want to relax and play a visual puzzler.
I don't think it's super exciting only it's like most outrageous,
stunning visuals. You're fucking get go on a boat and
you solve puzzles like It's just it ticks a piece
of my brain that lets me like relax and enjoy myself.
I really, I've really enjoyed it so far.
Speaker 2: The art direction kind of looks like Sable You remember.
Speaker 3: That, do you remember that?
Speaker 2: With frosterized sort of it's good looking. I like it well.
Is that it's not made by the same people, is
it some what kind of anything that's like a split
image of both of them.
Speaker 1: Super In Resin does not sound familiar. Now, this looks
like it's a debut from the studio. Least could be
they have.
Speaker 3: A a similar person. Yeah, maybe they have like a
similar art director or something.
Speaker 2: It's a bundle. It's the Ruins and Relics collection on Steam.
You can get sable and gecko guds for fifteen percent off. Yeah, okay, interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, I guess technically you can get hurt. I
forgot about that. There's like these little I was like
looking at the trailer, there's like these little guys that
can shoot stuff at you. But at no point was
I like I'm scared or like stressed out. It's like
real slow puzzles of like crawling into a space and
unlocking a gem and carrying that gem to a new
location that unlocks something else. And you can talk to
birds and they'll give you little hints, and oh, you
can eat the bugs. That's pretty fun. You can eat
the bugs and it gives you a dash. You're fucking
fast when you want to be. It's very fun to
zip zap around as a little gecko on the ceiling
and stuff and dash around. I found myself quite enjoying
myself as a little sticky handed Geko.
Speaker 2: That I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: They did a crossover the Little Kittie Big City items
in each game.
Speaker 2: Mary, did you play much Demon Tides? I can't remember?
Speaker 3: I what is that? Why does that not sound familiar?
Speaker 2: There's a three D platformer, but like when you're talking
about just kind of zipping around and everything, it's it
also has some One Waker type stuff. You're sitting around,
you turn into a snake, and like you can turn
into a lot of different like demons and snakes and
stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Earlier this year. Yeah, yes I did play this. I
only played like an hour and two to three hours
of this, but yes I did play this.
Speaker 2: Okay. Why It just reminded me of when you were
talking about, like, you know, just the the sailing around
and you know, like zipping around, and it's very much
uh yeah, a lot of platforms amidst the oceanic vibe.
Speaker 3: Well this is yeah, Demon Tides is very platforming. I
don't think there's fucking any platforming in Gecko Gods. I
think you are you are a land creature. Okay, Well,
I guess you have a boat, but you know, we
like you're never like uh jumping in precarious ways in
this section. And this is this is not a platform
or this is a environmental puzzle game, is what I
would call it. And for whatever reason and I and
I am cool with this decision, they aesthetically put them
on islands and gave you a little boat to drive
as a gecko. I think they just liked the visual.
This is the kind of game where I wish they
did have a big publisher that sent out sick press
kits because I won a little boat with a little
gecko sent.
Speaker 2: To my house live gecko.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so cruel.
Speaker 2: It would send live animals to someone.
Speaker 3: In the in the tub with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, I forgot to tell you.
Speaker 1: I learned about this while studying for my wine production class. Apparently,
ladybugs are a natural predator of mealy bugs. Mealy bugs
are known for spreading harmful viruses to vines, so people
sometimes order boxes of twenty five live ladybugs to introduce
them to a field of vineyard, et cetera, as natural predators.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to get Yeah, I was trying
to help just In case you had any round.
Speaker 1: But for those who might not know, I wasn't working
in a vineyard when I received a box of twenty five,
I'd tell you.
Speaker 2: Were head in that direction, So I thought I might
give you a little heads up.
Speaker 1: I got a box that was in the weirdest like
biohazardy looking wrapping material at work at work at game Spot,
when I sat across from Mary. I was probably playing
Rocket League or something. When I get this box and
I open and I peek inside, and I see the
interior of the box is just sort of sort of
like morphing, And it dawns on me that Dan had
talked about how you could send twenty five hundred live
ladybugs to someone. And I realized it was a box
of live ladybugs and I could see through some breathable holes.
Co worker at the time, Emily, took control of re
releasing them into the wild. You're supposed to do it
like little by little. So apparently they were fine. I mean,
I don't know what they survived on. In San Francisco.
Speaker 3: They find things to mung on. That was probably a
wild thing to open though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be very weird. Yeah, I'm looking they still
do it. You can get fifteen hundred life Ladybugs for
thirty nine ninety nine.
Speaker 3: They don't do that's a good price.
Speaker 2: Good, that's good ladybug price.
Speaker 1: Don't do that, that's good. They upset the ecosystem in
my neighborhood.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to help your vineyards. Don't do it.
Speaker 1: No, it was it was funny to read that in
my like textbook, be like, oh that's why those exist.
Speaker 2: Oh, us just like agriculture less. Yeah, they're natural predators.
Speaker 1: But if you're like doing sustainable or organic or regenerative
viticulture whatever, and you don't want to use pesticides, all right, Mary.
You also played DLC for dome Keeper, which you've talked
about on several episodes. I feel like throughout the show's lifespan,
the loss keepers DLC with co Op.
Speaker 3: I will not belabor it because you're right. I have
talked about dome keepers.
Speaker 1: You see with core Keeper, but you have talked about
door dome Keeper. But I feel like you got obsessed
with core Keeper for a bit.
Speaker 3: I did get obsessed with core Keeper. Domekeeper is a
very different game. Domekeeper is a tower defense, but done
in a unique way. Where you half the game you
are literally defending your dome from monsters that are attacking it.
They're coming from the left, to the right and from
the sky, and you'll have different types of defense based
on the tower that the dome that you choose. The
most iconic one is a laser, and so you're just
like moving this laser left and right. Think of like
the hand of a clock, and it moves kind of
slowly and you have to laser all these creatures as
that come at you. But that's only half the game.
The other half of the game you leave your dome
to dig a tunnel system underground to get resources to
upgrade your dome, and that part is sick. I really
like Domekeeper. I think it's super fun. Once I started,
once it clicked for me, I got really addicted to it.
This new DLC gives you two new characters. The beast
Master is the one that I played the most. They
look like, what's the octo guy.
Speaker 2: Who has programs?
Speaker 3: Doctor Octopus, doctor oc Yeah, doc Ock. He looks like, yeah,
Captain Kangaroo.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get emails about that.
Speaker 3: Hellowas bed Octomy, he'll always be duck activity. He has
all these metal tendrills that he can climb, but he
also comes with cats, so the beast Master automatically comes
with a cat system. When you find resources while digging,
you can punch a hole in the world. The cats
will come through that whole, grabby resources, and bring it
back up for you. So they're essentially your traversal systems.
You don't have to care all your resources back. It's
really fun to play beast Master. I think it's a
nice update to give you new ways to play. But
the main hook for this is the co op DLC.
I think it's up to eight which is crazy to
me playing this game with two alone. They obviously increase
the difficulty because you can mine twice as fast, so
they make it they kind of increase the amount of
monsters that attacks. You have to be fast to upgrade
your your domes that you can protect yourself. I also
find it interesting it's like only one person protects the dome.
The other person does other things while you're protecting the dome.
I really like the concept of eight player co op domekeeper.
I would like to know what that's like, but I've
enjoyed co op and so for me and anyone else
out there who is always looking for good co op
video games, I got you. It's Dome Keeper, The Loss
Keeper's DLC. This is like a fun game to play
with your partner or with your friend online. It's local
and online, and it's kind of it feels really easy
for another person to be like, this is how you play.
Just dig and I will grab all the resources and
bring them up and we'll protect us ourselves against the
monsters at night. Like how fun is that? I don't know,
Like for someone who's always looking for co op games,
like this is this is what I look for.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like even just the base game is
something I heard so many good things about that I've
had it like sitting on my steam deck a million times.
I've told myself like, Okay, this next flight, I'm gonna
play this, and then something else comes along and I
I have not loaded it up yet, but like, I've
always been curious about this and what you're saying about
co op that does sound really fun. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The co op, I think is what will hook you.
I will say, I will I will preface for new people.
I think that the learning curve can be a little intimidating.
I died the first like six or seven times, and
I was like, oh, this game is so hard. But
once you get it, it's actually it's it's like fluid.
You're it's like for people who really like efficiency, right
in min maxing minmaxing and being like, I can mind
this much and I can bring this many materials, and
then once we get to this area, I have to
get back to the dome because we have to defend.
Once you learn the habits of this world, you're good.
You're good. But the first couple of times you play,
you'll you'll probably get smooched because you don't know the rules.
Speaker 2: Sorry, but remind me.
Speaker 1: Are the shooting mechanics or the turrets are you manually
controlling them?
Speaker 2: Are those automatic?
Speaker 3: You manually control your main weapon. You can get secondary
weapons that are passive and they're oh, you guys, I
love this game. There's different modes that you can play,
and one of the modes is no defense mode, and
so your dome doesn't have anything, doesn't have a laser,
it doesn't have like anything, which is so wild. So
you have to invest in these like secondary and tertiary
defense mechanisms in order to live what a fun way
to play the games. They've like they've come up with
all these different modes, but even without that, there's different
types of dome. I played a dome that was uh
I think it was called Tesla dome. And so you
you have this coil and you'll just have this circle
and use to hold it down for a really long
time and then it just electrocutes everything in that coil,
which is pretty fun, but you'd be very committed to
where you're putting it because that's a lot of energy.
It's a lot of juice into your one coil hit
while you're getting you know, destroyed by all these other monsters.
So you have to be very smart with your investment choices,
make the right decisions, the right upgrade decisions based on
your current circumstance. Playing beast Master, for example, because it
comes with cats who automatically grab your stuff, it's probably
not a smart move to upgrade into carrying more stuff
because you're not carrying shit. You have your I got
my cats sewing that right, and my cat's carrying my shit.
I don't need to carry stuff, So like, don't put
your points into carrying stuff. You get it if anyone
fucking gets it on this podcast. It's Mike. Mike's like,
I know exactly what you're talking about about min maxing
your little defense stuff, and you know, having the right
rat I've this game unlocks a piece of my brain
that makes me feel like I get you, Mike.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was just looking at different reviews from like
a year ago, because I think the game originally came
out a year ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: PC Gamer loved it. Reviews on Steam are super positive.
I know you you've been high on it for a while.
I want to try it out for sure, because I
also just like the art direction too.
Speaker 2: It's cool, as we all know.
Speaker 3: Once it has DLC apparently it's up for Game of
the Year, so watch out.
Speaker 2: We put the kaibash on that a few times. Yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker 3: And bringing it back.
Speaker 2: We'll just we'll just we'll just snuff it out again.
Yeah you know, yeah we have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've never cared about rules or had principles or principles, dignity,
shame or none.
Speaker 2: What that sounds like?
Speaker 3: Mary, All right, thank you, you don't have any of those.
And Game of the Year that all goes out the window.
Speaker 2: Well, this is gonna be the nice year it'll be civil.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll make sure watch me fight for Gecko on boat.
Speaker 1: Right, you want to talk about emails shop okay? As always,
you can ride into fire Escape Cast at gmail dot
com if you want questions read on the show. We've
got several here tonight, some from uh what seemed like newcomers,
some from some regulars. That's fire Escape Cast at gmail
dot com. Mary, do you want to read this first one?
From Eric high fire Escape? What is quote unquote weather?
Is an earthquake?
Speaker 3: Weather? What about a tsunami? What about tides? Eclipses? The
air quality index? Can you please come up with a
good definition of weather for me? Thanks Eric from Cleveland, Dan.
We got to start with you.
Speaker 2: It's stuff that happens outside that you feel, uh huh.
It can be hot, it can be cold. It can
be a wave, it can be a tornado. It's something
happening outside in the air and the atmosphere that can
impact your physical body.
Speaker 3: From the atmosphere is important though, can you.
Speaker 2: I mean atmosphere just natural forces? Not that was just
an example, like it could be the ocean. Yeah, natural forces.
Speaker 3: That uh, blowing wind at you or pouring a bucket
of water on you, it has to happen from like
a natural weather.
Speaker 2: It has come from the Earth and its surroundings in space.
Huh yeah, huh.
Speaker 3: I think that seems pretty good, actually, Michael, I.
Speaker 1: Know there's a definition that it's any deviation from the
climatic average, but that tech would include like a tsunami
is a deviation from like climatic average.
Speaker 2: So I guess natural disasters would be weather, Yeah, cold, hot,
But what if?
Speaker 1: But what if what if a volcano is always erupting
like an active volcano eruption, that's not weather. An eruption
wouldn't be a deviation. So yeah, I would agree it's
not weather.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's around the same page. Volcano is not weather.
Volcano is a volcano. Yeah, But to look at your
weather app on your phone and see a volcano icon,
well you might like in sicily they live right next
to an active volcano, like is the ash like sometimes
like you know, a volcano will erupt in the area.
Is like, Ashey, you know, I don't think that. I
don't think that's I don't think that's weather. That's more
natural disaster.
Speaker 1: But again, by that definition of disasters are weather because
they're deviations from what you'd expect.
Speaker 2: Okay, hurricane is weather, that's weather. A tornado is weather.
Speaker 3: Earthquake weather, earthquakes an event, there's a weather out, there's
an earthquake outs.
Speaker 1: I don't go the tsunami is caused by an earthquake
in the ocean. Isn't it somewhere in the ocean or
across an ocean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't. Don't. Tsunamis they're formed because.
Speaker 1: Because of an earthquake, something across or in a large
body water, a little ripple.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes them not I'm not a meteorologist. That
that that is tricky. Yeah, earthquakes, volcanos, things like that, Like,
don't that doesn't strike me as weather. They strike me
as events.
Speaker 1: Snow is weather, rains weather, Yeah, humidity anything, water feels
like weather. Yeah, not like water. Guns, No, super soakers
aren't weather.
Speaker 3: Again, it has to be Yeah.
Speaker 2: It can't be man made. Oh do you guys want
to hear something really fucking cool? Oh, here's time about
the military control on the weather. Again, We've heard this
a lot.
Speaker 3: Old conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2: It's not the military. I usually blame No.
Speaker 1: Uh, I discovered that there are you You have the
option if you are trying to avoid a hailstorm that
you know is forming. People can go outside and shoot
rockets that are seated with silver iodide into the clouds
to ensure that it will be rain instead of hail.
Speaker 2: Well, you're really going to miss info wars now that
the Onion owns it. I want to be that person. No,
this isn't a conspiracy.
Speaker 1: This is what like people do this, like farmers do
this the world over when they don't well, if you
can afford the rockets, if you don't want hail, I.
Speaker 3: Want to just be the person with the weather rocks.
Speaker 1: I want to be a freelance rocketeer who's just got
these silver rockets in the back of his truck that
drives all over like Europe.
Speaker 2: That Glenn Powell and twisters?
Speaker 1: Is that what he doesn't do that? So he drove
around shot rockets the tornadoes. Yeah, oh this is that
a lot of a truck damp in them. I wonder
it ensures that it's not gonna be hail forming, I
don't know, shows.
Speaker 3: Them who's boss, you know, threatening the clouds.
Speaker 2: Shows who the alpha is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just if I'm going to show if I'm
gonna give you interacting with clouds. You know, I'm gonna
let it know. I'm the alpha. Sure, fucking Cumulo dingus
more like it. I really want to just be the
guy who who shoots rockets into clouds.
Speaker 2: Best dream job ship. You know, when I was young,
I was like, oh, I want to be famous, or
oh I want to be a CRUI drove the video game.
Speaker 1: No, I want I want a simple life shooting rockets
and clouds.
Speaker 2: I want you to quit being a Somalia to become
a guy who shoots rockets to clouds.
Speaker 1: I learned about this because it's because, uh like ven
neurons do it in France.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, yeah, I just that would be the dream.
Speaker 1: I want to be making silver rockets like fucking Van
helsing in my workshop with these vampire clouds or nowhere
we'll I'm sorry, I'm embarrassed.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I think we got to the heart
of it. Thank you, Eric.
Speaker 3: I feel like we got to the heart of it.
Speaker 1: Uh, Dan, you can. I guess this made more sense
for Mary. But you can read this anyway than Mary.
Speaker 3: You can.
Speaker 2: You can you can answer it, Okay, I lo fire escapers.
Mary always has very cute outfits when she posts on Instagram, Mary,
where do you get your dresses from? They're always so
cute and I need to revamp my wardrobe soon. J
here's a lot of good soundbites there. Now here's a
question for everyone. If you could steal one video game
character's look, who's would it be? Mine would be Rosalina's
or the majority of Luna's outfits? And Expedition thirty three? Thanksgang.
That is shanea with Mary.
Speaker 3: Well, that was very sweet, Thank you so much. I
would say most of my cool outfits are resale and
I have found them randomly in a resale environment. I
really love reselling clothes and finding other people's clothes because
it's better for the environment. And there's things in there
that I would never have bought myself, and I'm like,
oh my god, I'm so glad I found this, like
crazy dress or skirt that I would never have found otherwise.
Other than that, brands that I tend to gravitate to
Ore for Love and Lemons, good dresses there and Reformation,
I only buy them on sale. They're way too expensive
full price, so wait for a sale, for God's sakes
before you buy those. But that's that's where I those
are brands that I like, and most of the time
when they make stuff, I'm like, oh I like that,
but man resales where it's at. You guys are not stylish.
Speaker 2: No, that's not true.
Speaker 3: You look like uh Steve Jobs Mike most of the time.
And Dan, okay, you are wearing black all the time,
like a black T shirt or a black long sleeve shirt.
And Dan, you look like a stepdad from the eighties.
Speaker 2: Hell yes, oh god, I'm so happy that I've never
put words to it, but you just described it, and
I'm so happy about it. Thank you, Tim the two man.
My answer is Frog sued Mario three. I was gonna
say Tingle his his unif Yeah, I'd be good.
Speaker 1: I also, this is not technically a game. But Dan,
I remember you were ahead of me in Barry season three.
I want to say, and you texted me or like
Hank wears something or Hank I forgot how you phrased it.
You're like Hank wears something that I just immediately thought
of you. There's an episode in Barry where he's talking
to the Ballabscons with to uh Mexico or California, and
you just had the cameras trained on crystal ball across
the table for like most of the conversation finally cuts
and they're supposed to be laying low mind you, And
it finally cuts to NoHo Hank, And it reminded me
of this conversation because Dan, I think you described it
as him like he's dressed like a blood born character
with a crazy huge sombrero, And yeah, I would love
that look. Yeah, tingles up there. I also feel like
I would like.
Speaker 2: What's his name? Who? Did you just look up Sura
with a huge clown shoes. Oh? Sure, of course, I
just posted the very outfit and our discord.
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: They're supposed to be like hiding out.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm inspired by women's outfits a lot
in video games. There's so many good girl outfits that
are so iconic in games that I think have sparked
something inside of me. Do I think I dressed like
Laurer Croft?
Speaker 2: Know? I am?
Speaker 3: I like inspired to look like her when I hike? Absolutely?
Do I wish to be looking like that?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes? Yes?
Speaker 3: Do I have Jill Valentine's outfit?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Would I like to look like that in the tube top? Yes,
I am inspired by women all the time. They're so hot.
It's incredible. The amount of outfits from women, Uh Claire
Redfield eight a long like, well, yeah, stunning. I mean
they're iconic.
Speaker 2: The god was physically impossible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, ridiculous. I do you like the outfits in
Expedition thirty three? You can get where they have bagats
slung over there the backs like their staffs. That's a
really good look with like the the mind black and
white shirt and the red beret. Amanda has a jacket.
She has Leon S. Kennedy's jacket from Resume four, the
one he'star. It's with the brown leather with the furry
cuffs and and and the collar.
Speaker 2: I like that look quite a bit.
Speaker 1: Any resident Evil outfit would be sick. I'd like that look.
But I still think Tingle would be nice to go
into work with one day, everyone and everything.
Speaker 2: I don't even take the other you're just throwing confetti
at everyone.
Speaker 1: I just float up the side of the building, the
thirty first floor and enter through the window.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would hop like Mario and Mario three by
the Frog outfit.
Speaker 3: We just have such different standards. The main character in
Near automata. The outfit is crazy. It's so so hot,
so pretty, so cool to be Yeah, like all black
with like stockings and thigh high heels and like this
skirt with like a weird slit in it. Oh, that's
such a cool outfit. God, women are amazing. You guys
are fucking like dressing up like Frogger.
Speaker 2: Well oh, I said Tingle okay, yeah, and I said
frog Market so much cooler, so hot, Thank you Shana.
Speaker 1: All right, last question, hey all, While listening to last episode.
This was written in after I want to say two
episodes ago, but it will still make sense. While listening
to last episode, I noticed you were all speaking much
more slowly than normal. And it wasn't until the discussions
about drinking in New Orleans, and I started to wonder
if you all were podcasting while currently drunk. Drunk, no judgment,
And then I looked at my But then I looked
at my podcast app and realized I had accidentally started
the episode on point seven time speed. Is there anything
you've encountered, be it a piece of media, a city,
or even a human being, that made you jump to
certain conclusions, only to realize it was all because of
something that you did. Thanks John from Arizona, Tucson, Arizonia. Yeah,
I do that all the time. I assume someone else up.
Speaker 2: Every day every day.
Speaker 3: It just happened to me because you guys were talking
about playing Sorrows and I was like, where did you
get your code? Inside my head a week ago?
Speaker 2: Got it back from the beginning with these.
Speaker 3: Cool codes, hoarding them, keeping them from me. Probably the
patriarchy is at play. And I didn't read my fucking email.
Speaker 2: You were tagged on discord. Fuck, I have code. I
got to find the name of it. What's it called? Okay?
I know one.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I just remembered this, but I
think I was just trying to think of like they
mentioned a specific city or people, and I was like,
is there anything I've done with food that I assumed
a food was really bad? But I actually just didn't
prepare it correctly or eat it correctly. When I was
working out of the UK office for Game Spot back
before Games Calm twenty seventeen, I went to the break
room and it was my first time in the UK
in London, and I had uh just I had Marmite
for the first time, which I loved so spread them
on toast. I also had squash for the first time
orange squash. The first time I had it, however, I
just drank it straight. I didn't realize you need to
dilute it and mix it with water to make it drinkable.
So I'm in the break room and Dave Jewett and
Lucy James come in. They're like, what are you doing there,
pals like, just trying to fucking squash stuff out.
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, you're supposed to. You're not supposed to
just drink it straight.
Speaker 1: I was basically drinking like people concentrate of not even
orange juice.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to describe it.
Speaker 1: But I was just drinking sludge, thinking that was the
drink that everybody in the UK had made, because I
had just tried marmite like the day before, so I
was like, Okay, that was weird, but I liked it.
So I was trying this drink and like forcing it down.
It was almost a solid in my glass, Like how
do people do this every morning? And they're like, yeah,
that's not how that's not how you.
Speaker 2: Drink that.
Speaker 3: Has something really similar called cordial and you.
Speaker 2: Buy and then package it for so we can skip
the step.
Speaker 3: It's I think it's in other countries. It makes it's
so logical, which is they remove the water from the
product so that it's easier to ship it.
Speaker 2: It costs less to ship too, Yeah.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent, and you get more product. So when
you're bringing home this this happens all the time with
laundry detergent. I think how many times you're like, bring
home this fucking jug. You're paying for water and they're
shipping water. It's a waste of it's a waste of resources. Yeah,
and they've solved it in other countries, and we're so
stupid that not only have don't we don't do it.
But when you have the opportunity to have a concentrate,
you just drink it. You don't, don't. We're we're so
unfamiliar with the concept that we're just like we ship
our our products with all of our water in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I've never I don't think I've ever made like
orange juice from concentrate before, so that I didn't even
have that frame of knowledge, Like I don't minivata or whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't know how they become orange juice though, and
mix them with you do.
Speaker 1: What are you supposed to do with orange squash and
mix it with water? You're basically it's not diluting, Yeah,
I guess diluting and diluting it yeah, yeah, or saturating
it rather.
Speaker 3: Just mixing it with water.
Speaker 1: That's a good I've there's also been like it's funny,
we uh were planning on a trip to We're going
to Italy for the first time in September.
Speaker 2: We just booked.
Speaker 1: We don't know whether we're starting or ending in Venice.
And I've done a lot of research, and I've talked
to a lot of people who go to Italy often
talk to like wine reps to friends too. I've gone
on like Italy travel subreddit throughout the years all my
friends who went to Italy often where I was no,
Venice sucks, it's touristy, Like okay.
Speaker 2: Then like maybe that won't be on our list.
Speaker 1: But the more I've read about it, the more I'm like, no,
it sounds rad and like a lot of people I
trust are like, no, it's awesome. Just get away from
the fucking touristy areas and like yeah, like we talked
about it with Bourbon Street. It's like there's a rite
of passage for certain cities, like Okay, go do Times
Square the first day, get it out of the way,
and then go down to the village, go over to
East Village, go to Brooklyn, et cetera. I'm just like,
I wonder how many these people are making any effort
to get away from like San Marco or rialto Bridge.
I might be butchering those or whatever to different neighborhoods
in Venice. So like, now we're excited for that, but
I've I feel like a lot of people will get
to a city similar to San Francisco.
Speaker 2: People will be go for GDC and be like San
Franco sucks.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I don't love, love, love San Francisco,
but there's a lot of character if you make any
effort to get away from Moscow A and Soma. So like,
at that point, it's like those people are just hating
the city based in the circumstances of GENDC, which fucking
sucks because it's in like a terrible neighborhood, like to
go go fifteen blocks north and you'll be fine. So like,
I appreciate that they mentioned how you can kind of
fuck up a city yourself. Yeah, Memphis still sucks. Though
I've ever Memphis, I don't think it's this like incredible place.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I've never been be Memphis.
Speaker 2: Memphis. Here here goes again, man, Memphis.
Speaker 3: Memphis, walk ahead and Memphis. I always say, I think
I sucked.
Speaker 2: Up the egg whites situation. That probably wasn't the way
to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, most likely you probably did a few things with cooking.
Speaker 3: But the story is not just that you're that you're
like kind of blindly walking through life, but you're assuming
that like other people were wrong.
Speaker 2: Did you hate something? No, I knew I was wrong
immediately with that. Okay, So here's is there a.
Speaker 1: Person you met that you didn't like and then you
found out you were wrong about them.
Speaker 2: That's happened for sure. Yeah, prejudice. Yeah, mister Whaley what's
his name? Dan?
Speaker 3: Read a book.
Speaker 2: If I'm going to read a book, it's not that
it sounds like it's a kissing or something. Oh, you know,
DEAs stranding and Red Dead too. The way I just
rushed through it, you know, and it's like I kind
of came at it with more vitriol than I think
I have now, just because I think I was rushing
through it. You know. Yeah, those are good examples.
Speaker 1: I've there's probably been like TV shows that I was like, oh,
I wasn't really meeting it halfway.
Speaker 2: I was The Wire and Sopranos because those were shows
I was watching with like my laptop, opening college and
stuff like you know, just fucking around answering emails and
stuff like that. And it's like both of those shows
super require attention. So yeah, it was like I'm watching
Spranos for the first time. You know, The Wire is
one of my favorite shows ever.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, yeah, we don't have to harp on that.
We talked about our varying approaches to like second or
third screens while we're watching a show.
Speaker 2: But like, I still stand by Liker and like, there
are there.
Speaker 1: Are shows that people are making now like creators talk,
We're like, no, we have to like write the dialogue
with the intent of getting them to look back at
the screen every.
Speaker 2: Like ten seconds, and like totally insane.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, Like I cannot imagine any of those people
Like Mary, I would love for you to watch one
of my top five favorite movies in the mood for
Love by Wankr. Why but like it would definitely be
like a turn the lights off and just have the
one screen.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that. I kind of like, I kind of
can't do the other way. Like if I'm listening to
like Deadlock, the podcast I listened to like, and I
get a text, I will pause the podcast respond to
the text, you know, like I will pause the podcast
anytime something else comes up, just because it's like, I'm
not going to be able to give either of these
things my attention, so let's just pause one. Yeah I was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I similarly I was, I can't get it'll like
overwhelm me if I hear two different conversations happening, like uh,
in classes these days, if someone is talking in the
back room, like while the teacher is speaking, and it
absolutely it makes me crazy. I'm like, not just not
just the respect thing, it's agent question.
Speaker 2: Your brain just can't process either. It's like the ultimate
for me is I'm on the phone talking to someone
and someone in the room is asking me a question
like oh tell them this or what difference, Like, oh,
well I can't hear no one's getting like my brain
can't process either. Yeah, it's just overload. But yeah, no,
I do think It's like I've similar to food.
Speaker 1: I feel like anytime I dislike a food, I get
really annoyed and I like have to train myself to
like it.
Speaker 2: I used to hate olives, Now I love them.
Speaker 1: Oh I still hate, like I drink like dirt Martini's
dirty now because I.
Speaker 2: Like alives that much.
Speaker 3: But they're delicious.
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's super answering the question, but like,
I literally can't couldn't stand the fact that there was
a food that a lot of people loved that I
didn't like, and I felt like I was missing out.
Speaker 3: I think the question is that you've made an assumption
based on the information that you had, and it turns
out you were looking at it wrong the entire time. Yeah,
you didn't even realize that earthquakes are weather. You know,
you have to like reconfigure your entire mindset. It's a
good question, though, because I'm sure it happens to us
all the time in different ways.
Speaker 2: I'm flirting with the idea of watching the Lord of
the Rings movies. Yeah, what's propelling you. I'm older, I'm wiser,
I'm a more I have different openness to cinema and
what it's doing and it seems like people like those movies,
so I'm open to trying that.
Speaker 3: They're like the way that they've aged is just still incredible,
because most of the time, when you watch a movie
from like ten years ago, you're like, well it's not bad,
but like you know, I didn't do all the things
that you would do now, but it really holds up.
Speaker 2: Dude, Okay, we marathon them.
Speaker 1: That's like our yearly tradition now for around Thanksgiving, Fellowship
of the Ring with like coffee slash tea, whatever we're drinking,
two towers will start breaking into some like apparatifs by
Return of the King, by the Right of the Road here,
and I'm fucking like slamming an asahi.
Speaker 3: That's a special experience as well is watching a trilogy
while getting like a little toasted each additional film. I
recently bought Star Wars Original Trilogy on VHS. You guys know,
I'm like, on my VHS, Hunting Journey was.
Speaker 2: The gold box set.
Speaker 3: That's right. I love that and it has the behind
the scenes commentary of like, yeah, like what they were doing.
I think it's really fun. But I have I haven't
seen that series a very long time. I've not. I
kind of forgot a lot of what happens in it,
so I was still surprised. But the idea of just
getting a little bit drunker each movie is so special,
and you only get to do that with a trilogy,
like such a wonderful experience to sit around with other
buds and just slowly get blasted watching three movies in
a row. A great waste of a day.
Speaker 2: If I told you, guys, my Star Wars trilogy getting
wasted story also dealing with weather. Does this ring a
bell at all? Wait?
Speaker 3: Is it this podcast?
Speaker 1: It? Wow?
Speaker 2: This is very this is very appropriate the I'll keep
it short, but basically, I was at the bar in college.
We were out on a mass treat and drinking, and
I got tanked and we started talking about Star Wars
the original trilogy. And at this point it had been
years since I'd watched these movies, and I was like remembering,
like we're talking about certain fights and battles and stuff.
I was like, oh right, I fucking love those movies.
And I said, I'm gonna go home and I'm just
gonna watch all three of those movies back to back
to back tonight. I'm just gonna keep drinking. And I
remember I had I was on a Black and Tan
kick Guinness and Harp, you know, and so I was
already tanked. Got home after like two am, and I'm
starting the trilogy and I told myself, I am gonna
make I made some Black and Tans all night and
I'm just gonna buy myself watch all three of these
movies back to back to back, and I'm just loving it.
And I'm already tanked as I'm starting a new hope
and I'm just getting the Empire and yeah, the morning
at this point, I'm like, yeah, fuck it, I'm still going.
I'm still going, still drinking, and I get to return
the Jedi and it's at it's at the end, and
it's like it's when they're doing the Acbar stuff and
the Second Death Star. It's like the big like you know,
space battle and stuff like that. And I start hearing
just like the loudest noises ever, and I'm like, I
have shitty fucking surround sound. There's no way, And so
I paused the movie and I'm just hearing the apocalypse outside.
What the fuck is this living Kansas? And I opened
the door and oh my god, the amount of old
pay to see footage of me at this moment. Oh wait,
I do know this story. I remember this annihilated fucking drunk.
I opened the door. I'm literally seeing roofs and shingles
get like pulled off. I'm watching fucking power lines go down,
trees are going down. It was a microburst. I don't
know if you know, it's not a tornado. It's a
thing where there's like just a ton of like liquidor humidity,
and it's like a bucket gets dumped down at once
and this air it's just like a one time boom.
It's not like a tornado that last while. It's just
this huge like burst of air and water. And it
was just fucking up the entire Like the campus was
closed for days afterwards, Like it was like it fucked
up the town. And I'm like been drinking for twelve
hours at the end of Return of the Jedi, and
I just like looked at it for a second and
I just shut the door, and I think I just
went and sat in my closet, and I was like,
I guess I should probably do this. Like there wasn't
a basement.
Speaker 1: Would have been I would have paid so much money
to like be on the other side of the door,
so you open it and try to process it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was just insanity. Yeah, I've never
seen anything like it.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you made it through two movies
these days. If I almost three, if I get home
at like ten pm and I'm a bit drunk, I've
got like other twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: You're any danger I have? I think we probably, But
I do think what you're saying is maybe a universal
experience for Star Wars fans. I have a vivid memory.
I went over to Josh Shaw's house. This is like
my early days of Game Spot and I remember like
going over to his house, getting plastered drunk. We were
watching you know, a New Hope. It ends It's like
two thirty in the morning. I'm starting to like think
about Nuber. It's pitch black in this room. I'm I'm
like about to like get an uber and say, well,
it's time to go. And as as I'm just going
to say something, he just goes. He just puts on
the next movie and it's full volume, full flight. We're
staying and I just fell asleep watching the second.
Speaker 1: Wait was Robert rob Do you remember the giant TV
that he had, like like the TV was like the
size of a whole wall.
Speaker 2: Had the Millennium falcon in there, the Lego one too,
right in that room. That was when he's living have it.
He and Pete lived there together.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was early when I was hanging out with
you guys.
Speaker 1: And I remember that too because I remember like I
was also fading even though I.
Speaker 2: Was like twenty three, and then be in bed. I
just hear al the room, like the music wasn't even
coming out of speakers. It was so loud. The room
itself starts playing. He comes back, Bob Handler.
Speaker 3: He's like, very like good experience to be too tired
for a star war or for like a trilogy. And
yet we go on. What a wonderful, wonderful question that
led to that story.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you John from Tucson, Arizonia. That's our show.
That's episode one thirty one.
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to a fantasy themed birthday party and I had a
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fantasy like animalistic outfit, and you're goddamn right, I'm going
to run fair this year, So I put those fun
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I don't really approve of some shirts that have the
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good time, Bye, thank you,