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Speaker 3: My guest today grew up Mormon, got out at nineteen,

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put herself through college, working at a law firm, and

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earned a degree in mathematics, all while graduating with high

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honors and building an OnlyFans career that landed her in

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the top point one percent on the platform. Kit Barris,

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who you may know is Kit the Beefcake, is exactly

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the kind of person the adult industry produces and mainstream

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media doesn't want to write about. She's disciplined, self made,

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and completely unbothered by what anyone else thinks.

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Speaker 1: What she should be doing with her life.

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Speaker 3: Today, we're talking about predatory agencies, a social media crackdown

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on of promotion, and what it actually looks like to

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run your adult career like a business.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome Kit Barrass to Holly Randall and Filtered a.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited

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to be here.

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Speaker 3: You're so welcome. Yeah, Like I was saying, I've been

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following you for a while, and I love your content,

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and you just come across as a really intelligent person

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and I like smart people.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I love your content. I've been following

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the podcast. I think it's amazing. Oh my god, we've.

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Speaker 1: Been like following each other.

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Speaker 3: Now here we are to be. So let's let's start

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from the beginning. So you grew up in a Mormon family.

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How did you end up sitting on this couch today?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, roller coaster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I grew up Mormon.

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Speaker 4: My family's actually Mormon all the way back to bring

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them young walking across into Utah. Really yeah, so my grandparents,

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my great grandparents, all the way back. That was just

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a very hectic upbringing for me. I've always felt very

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free spirited. I've always felt like very exploratory, very curious

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about boys, like all that kind of stuff. So Mormonism

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just kind of always felt like this encroaching sort of

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prison for me. But my parents forced me to go

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until I was nineteen and I moved out of the house.

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Speaker 1: So once you like were an adult, you were like, Okay,

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I'm done.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I really wanted to leave the whole time, and

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it was a big fight between me and my parents

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at all times. By the time I left their home,

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they were making me go to this thing called Single

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Adults Ward. I used to call it marriage Roulette, which

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my parents really didn't like because you go and it's

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just a whole congregation of people like eighteen to twenty

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two who aren't married yet, and the goal is to

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get you married as quickly as possible. So I'd go in,

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I'd sit down in a pew and some weird Mormon

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dude would like sit next to me and try to

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shoot a shot during.

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Speaker 2: Mass, and like I was like, girl, get out of here.

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Speaker 4: That's the first time I buzzed my hair off, was

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to get them to stop talking to Oh.

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Speaker 1: My god, how how did your parents take that?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god?

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Speaker 4: My dad took my car keys and he was like,

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you're not a boy, and it was all I was like,

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I'm not trying to be a boy, and trying to

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get these boys to stop hitting on me.

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Speaker 2: But he was.

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Speaker 4: I think he was upset because he really wanted me

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to like marry someone in the church. He kind of

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thought that would fix me and get me to be

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a lot more on board if I found a man

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who was like super into it. Yeah, so I think

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he was kind of bored disappointed from that standpoint.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what was it about Mormonism that really didn't align

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with you?

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Speaker 4: They really view a woman's role on the planet as

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having as many children as possible, So you're not really

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encouraged necessarily to get an education, to.

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Speaker 2: Work on things in your own life.

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Speaker 4: Your goal is literally to become a woman who is

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worthy of a husband, who serves God, and to have

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as many children as possible and then to love and

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nurture them.

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Speaker 2: That's your whole.

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Speaker 4: Job assignment for your eighty ninety years on planet Earth.

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Speaker 2: It just really was unsettling to me.

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Speaker 4: I always had really good grades, I was always really smart,

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really passionate about education, loved reading, just loved any information

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I could get my hands on for the most part.

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Speaker 2: So it was troubling to me that.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't be expected of anything else because from my standpoint,

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I was kind of like, well, if your God is real,

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and your God gave me this brain, why would he

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then tell me to throw it in the dumpster and

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just raise kids? You know?

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Speaker 2: Felt demeaning for me.

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Speaker 3: It's like, the problem is twofold number one, that you

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assume that every woman's purpose on this.

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Speaker 1: Planet is to have children, which is not true.

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of amazing women that are good

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friends of mine that don't want to have children. I

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fully respect that as a massive commitment. And then also

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that the suggestion that you can't be a mom and

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a career woman at the same time, which is I

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think also unfair.

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Speaker 4: It's difficult for a Mormon woman to do both because again,

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the expectation is as many as possible. So most Mormon

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women get married at twenty twenty one and then they

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start having kids immediately. So I briefly went to high

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school in Idaho, where there's a lot more Mormon people.

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It was really really common for my friends at church

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to have six or seven brothers and sisters. My dad

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is from a family of seven kids, so I think

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it's hard when you have seven or eight kids to

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have both parents and the family working. Yeah, and so

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the expectation is that the woman just doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: And I do think motherhood's beautiful and like such a.

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Speaker 4: Cool path to choose, but it's sort of meaningless if

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you don't get the choice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, because there's a lot of women that

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just want to be you know, mothers and housewives and

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there's nothing wrong with that. My brother in law is

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like a stay at home dad, and my sister works,

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you know, and like that that works out great for them.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: I have an uncle and an aunt who are that way.

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So he stays home and she goes to work and

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they're very happy. But she left the church.

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Speaker 1: So how many siblings do you have? I have too?

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, so my mom actually wanted to have way more,

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but with my little brother, the youngest, she got diabetes

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while she was pregnant, and so they told her that

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she actually couldn't have any more kids unless she was

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okay with like her and the child being diabetic for

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the rest of their lives.

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Speaker 1: And this is if she had a kid again.

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Speaker 2: This is if she had a kid again.

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Speaker 4: She and my brother got lucky because there was some

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chance I think that they could have both been died

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after the pregnancy. But they're both fine, perfectly healthy. I'll

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get to go. But yeah, they told her it would

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be a pretty severe health complication for her to have

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more kids.

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Speaker 1: I haven't had my gestational diabetes test yet.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm like, well, and I never ever thought

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that would be a problem. Like with my first daughter,

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I didn't have it, but I know so many people

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for some reason, I know a lot of people right now.

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Speaker 1: Who who have it or had it.

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Speaker 3: Really and then my doctor like yelled at me and

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told me I've gained too much weight already and I'm

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at higher risk for gestational diabetes because I'm so fucking old.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's like, you're right when you're pregnant to

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gain some weight, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Why would I be pregnant if I can't eat whatever

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Speaker 1: While I'm pregnant. Kidding, And I like eat well for

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the most part.

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Speaker 3: But I also, you know, like I feel like I

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can have an extra plate of grapes and cheese at night.

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Speaker 2: Grapes and cheese.

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Speaker 3: I love grapes and cheese. It's like my favorite snack.

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That's so good. So how did you end up in

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the adult industry? So you went to college, so you

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left the church and then went to college.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I left the church. I was going to school.

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Speaker 4: I was working in nine to five at a law firm,

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just doing like admin stuff, and then I would go

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to school at seven in the morning and at like

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six thirty at night, so I'd have a class before work,

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go work eight hours, and then have a class after work,

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and I'd get home around like ten pm most nights.

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no debt at that point, Like I was managing to

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pay for my college.

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Speaker 2: I was going to like a community college.

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Speaker 3: Did your parents not want to support you because you

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left the church or they just weren't able to.

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Speaker 4: It's like a combination of those things. I think my

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dad was always I'm the oldest, so he really pushed

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me to be very, very independent. I received very little

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financial assistance from them. I got my first job when

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I was fifteen. I had to like get California to

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sign all these work permits and stuff and like bring

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them into school, and it was a whole thing. So

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I could go work for a little like sporting goods

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store that was local to.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of interesting that he encouraged you to be independent,

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yet he also wanted you to get married and become

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dependent on a man.

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Speaker 2: My dad is a.

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Speaker 4: Very interesting man because I owe a lot of who

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I am to him, Like he has. Really he's made

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me this very independent, very financially savvy, very intelligent person.

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Speaker 2: He's taught me to work on cars.

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Speaker 4: I did all my car work by myself before I

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started making money, so he like taught me all these things. Right,

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to like marry a guy and choose this life. But

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I don't know he's I think he's very complicated. I

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don't I don't know that I'll ever really completely sort

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that out.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that he's really sorted out a lot

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of that.

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Speaker 4: But I am very grateful to my dad for everything,

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because I wouldn't have the skills that I have. I

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wouldn't be the person that I am without him. It

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was maybe because I was the firstborn and he really

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wanted a boy. I don't know, but he used to

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like take me to boy Scouts, which was very frowned

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upon when I was a kid. Oh really, Yeah, So

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like when I was little, can you go to boy

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Scouts as a girl? Now you can? But when I

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was a kid, No, absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: Why do they have Girl Scouts then? I don't know.

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I was never allowed to join Girl Scouts because I'd

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ride horses.

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Speaker 2: That sounds way better than Girl Scouts.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want.

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Speaker 4: Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts teach like different things for

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the most part. Like boys, it's very like outdoorsy. It's

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very like they'll teach you like not and first daid

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and like all that stuff. I think that Girl Scouts

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is very entrepreneur focused.

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Speaker 2: From what I've heard.

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Speaker 4: You sell cookies, yeah, but like they're teaching you kind

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of like entrepreneurial and those kinds of skills. But Mormons

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are up until Boy Scouts start allowing women, Mormons and

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Boy Scouts were like partnered, so ninety percent of the

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members of Boy Scouts were Mormons, and a lot of

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their meetings were held in Mormon churches. They started allowing women,

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they split off and the church decided to create their

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own program and they were like, we're not going to

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associate with you anymore.

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Speaker 2: We don't want women in this program.

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Speaker 4: Interesting, so it was very crazy that my dad was

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bringing me because the Mormon Church obviously doesn't condone women

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being involved in boy Scouts.

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Speaker 1: Was he like a leader?

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Speaker 3: He was the sense that he was able to kind

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of yeah, incorporate you.

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Speaker 4: But he would take me on the camping trips and

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like just my dad and I would share a tent

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and I would play double O seven with the boys

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and like run around like crazy. He taught me how

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to build fires, and he'd be like, can't show them

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how to build a fire. Don't let these boys show

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you how to do anything. Like it was like he

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was like very empowering as a father. But I think

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he was raised in this church and so he doesn't

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know any other way to be happy, and so he

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just wants me to be happy. And this is what

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he knows is a good formula.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: So it's like, is he's an interesting guy?

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. Okay, So you're going to college

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and what happens then?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to college.

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Speaker 4: I transfer to a four year university from my community college.

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I'm working on a psychology degree. Just after COVID, I

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decided that I was really sick and tired of these

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like twelve to fourteen hour days. So I saved up

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a whole bunch of money. I bought a really little condo,

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and I saved up enough that I was like, Okay,

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I have enough money that I can kind of live

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off of savings and take a little bit of a

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student loan so that I can do one semester on

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campus and like experience what it's really like to be

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a university student and to kind of be a kid.

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Since I didn't really get that, I started personal training

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part time just to like help make ends meet a

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little bit nicer. So I'd wake up at four in

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the morning and I'd go do a couple training sessions

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and then i'd go to my classes. I joined the

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sailing team at my college, and I made all these

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friends and it was going amazing, and I was like,

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I really just like don't want this to end. I

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can't believe I only got one semester of this, Like

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it's the still like one of the best things I've

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ever experienced. And I was kind of talking to like

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my really small TikTok following that I was using to

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promote my personal training and I was all live and

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they were like, well, you should start OnlyFans.

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Speaker 2: I was like, well, I'm down.

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Speaker 4: At the time, I was doing psychology and i'd written

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a couple of papers on human sexuality. Like I was

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very involved in human sexuality, very interested in it. So

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I was I kind of thought to myself, well, from

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an at least an academic standpoint.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I could do this.

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Speaker 4: I was like, well, but I don't want to do this,

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and it costs me the ability to go get my

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PhD or whatever. So if I do this, like you

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guys have to show up, that's the deal. And so

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I spent maybe a month or so kind of talking

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to my TikTok followers and posting on Twitter and like

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all this stuff, just kind of hyping it up. And

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then when I finally opened it up, I made tenth

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dollars my first month, Wow, which was insane. I had

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thirty thousand TikTok followers, nothing else after COVID, Like it's

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already saturated, small following.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 1: So what kind of content were you doing at that stage?

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Did you start off.

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Speaker 2: Like very familiar? Yeah, it was really really like just solo,

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just solo, completely solo.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I'm gonna post pictures every single day,

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So I would post little carousels of like two to

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five pictures every single day, and I would take them

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every single day. So it was just very amateur, like

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this is where I am a lot of the times.

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It was like on campus in the bathroom, like just

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very here it is, you know. But they loved it.

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They like really believed in me. They thought this was

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something I would be really good at. And they, I

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guess they were right, like good call guys. But I

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I had a bunch of friends who were engineers from

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the sailing team, and they kept kind of making fun

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of me for being a psych matrix. It's not technically STEM,

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it's humanities degree. And they're like, well, you're you're dumb

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because you just do psychology. And I was like, well,

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what's the hardest major you can think of? And they

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were like, well, maybe math, And I was like, okay,

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I'll do that.

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Speaker 2: Then.

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Speaker 4: So I had to like submit an application to not

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graduate because I've already applied to graduate, and then I

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applied for the second major.

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Speaker 1: And how was that.

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Speaker 4: I got a three point eight five GPA. So I

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think I did pretty well.

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Speaker 1: Hate math, I hate it.

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Speaker 2: I was pretty good at it. I really liked it.

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Speaker 1: Actually, Yeah, I was an English major, so like that is.

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Speaker 2: My grandfather was an English professor at Pepperdine.

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Speaker 1: Oh amazing, Yeah that's great.

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Speaker 3: My dad was actually an English teacher too, back in

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the time way so kind of run. Yeah, but I

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but I hated math, loved it because usually like you're like,

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my brother's a math person. Yeah, like he's com computer

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science major and like all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Computer science is like a whole different yes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was always like an English person. It

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sounds to me like you were like good at both.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably good. I like both. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just like learning new things. I've really bad ADHD.

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So yeah, I like changing lights every once in a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. Okay, So and you were doing statistics.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, so I graduated with a degree in mathematics

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with an emphasis in statistics.

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Speaker 3: Were you like, okay, so you've graduated. Were you thinking, okay,

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I'm gonna segue into something else associated with my major,

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or by then were you full fledged only Fans creator?

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Speaker 2: By then?

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Speaker 4: I was a pretty full fledged OnlyFans creator. When I

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graduated a year and a half ago, I said, okay,

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I'm gonna give myself basically like a gap year to

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see what I can do with this because I've up

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until now, I've only done it part time. Now I

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guess I'm like, really, I'm really locked in, like I

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make too much money.

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Speaker 2: Now I guess to do something else.

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Speaker 4: But I love that this option is there where if

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Only Fans gets banned for whatever reason or something happens

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like I have everything I need to go get my PhD.

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Speaker 3: And do you feel like being like an OnlyFans creator

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would prevent you in any way from achieving those other dreams.

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Speaker 2: I actually don't think so.

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Speaker 4: I think academia is like very rare because they really

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appreciate different perspectives.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting. I just had Stella Barry on two episodes ago.

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I don't know if you know she is. She started

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hitting me, yeah yeah, and she also is like very intelligent,

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college educated, and she said the exact same thing about academia.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, academia, it's it's got its issues, but they're very inclusive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think it would be an issue.

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Speaker 1: Right, But I'm sure you thought about that.

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Speaker 4: I think that being a sex worker is a bigger

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issue if you're not successful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's like the unfortunate truth of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because then you don't have the financial freedom to

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be able to Yeah, and it's like you you put

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the stamp the scar letter on your forehead without like

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the financial rewards to make it worth it.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 4: I also think that when you demonstrate that you're really

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good at something and you succeed, you get like a

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minus twenty percent stigma, you know what I mean, Like

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there's always going to be people who are like but

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you know, I see it a lot like in dating,

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Like when girls are like newer to only fans, not

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making as much money on OnlyFans, new to sex work,

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they have a really hard time dating, Like people don't

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want to put up with the stigma, Like it's like

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it's too much for most people.

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Speaker 2: But the second you.

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Speaker 4: Go, oh, I have an only fans and I make

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hundreds of thousand dollars a month, Oh, now you're dating

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pools massive.

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Speaker 1: So what's that about? Do you find dating to be hard?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the biggest like roadblock? You come across?

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Speaker 4: Guys kind of like fall into a few bins with me.

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So there's the guys who are super excited that I

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have an OnlyFans, almost too excited that I have an

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only kids, and it feels kind of like fetishi, which

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is a weird point to start out on with somebody

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that you're trying to go on like a first date with.

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Speaker 2: And then there's the guys who obviously just hate your

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guts right out the gate.

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Speaker 4: Uh. It's very hard to find men who have true

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ambivalence about it, which I think is what is required

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to like really have a relationship with somebody.

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Speaker 2: Is they don't.

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Speaker 4: They're not glorifying you, but they're also not hating you.

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They're like, oh, it's a job, you know.

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Speaker 2: What I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 3: My husband's like that exactly, exactly, Yeah, he doesn't really.

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It's funny because I won't send him pictures of myself

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usually because I'm like embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: So he used to.

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Speaker 3: There was like a Holly Randall fab subreddit and he

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gets on there.

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Speaker 2: Wife.

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Speaker 1: That's so funny because I feel stupid setting them too.

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Speaker 4: I used to have a boyfriend who would go through

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my computer and I knew he was doing it, like

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he's your open that he was doing it, but I

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wouldn't send him the pictures or videos dumb, So he

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just go through my computer when I was at home

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and find something and I was like, great, I'm glad

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you're enjoying the continent.

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Speaker 1: Like as God has to search for porn on me, he.

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Speaker 2: Has to find your leaks. Where are they?

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Speaker 1: I know exactly, it's like try by.

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Speaker 3: My wife's like OnlyFans leaks because she won't send me

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any fos.

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Speaker 4: They were asking how many types in because sometimes they

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like hide the leaks, like in some like obscure descriptions

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that you can't find them and take them down.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of a leak, So I was with Scheri de

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Ville and we were talking about OnlyFans leaks because I

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have like a DMCA service that like takes stuff down,

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but like there's still stuff out there. And she was

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telling me, she's like, oh, it's so easy to find

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your leaks, Like, let me show you how easy it is.

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And she googles me and there's this. And I probably

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shouldn't say this because now everyone's gonna go look for

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it and post it everywhere. But whatever, maybe I'll cut

478
00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,000
this out afterwards. I don't know, I'll decide. She finds

479
00:22:01,039 --> 00:22:04,160
this huge like I don't think it was a subreddit.

480
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,680
I think it was on a form huge community that

481
00:22:06,759 --> 00:22:10,680
has all these pictures of me with they take my

482
00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:14,279
face and they photoshop it on like these with a

483
00:22:14,319 --> 00:22:14,960
massive dick.

484
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,079
Speaker 1: They've given me, like a huge dick.

485
00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 2: That's kind of awesome. That's kind of sick.

486
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,759
Speaker 1: Okay, So you know what, I'm only offended.

487
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:31,519
Speaker 3: By the ones where like I have fats. I was

488
00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:33,359
just like some of them because it's again, it's not

489
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,839
my body. Most of the time they take someone else's body.

490
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 2: They just put your head on it.

491
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,759
Speaker 1: They just put my head on it. It's pretty badly done.

492
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,279
Speaker 3: And there's like a couple and I'm like, I'm kind

493
00:22:42,279 --> 00:22:44,559
of like pudgy and I've got like a like a

494
00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:47,319
pouch and like her fu. But and I'm like, hey, man,

495
00:22:47,319 --> 00:22:48,720
if you're gonna put a dick on me, give me

496
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,759
a good fucking body.

497
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 2: Like there's one crazy stuff.

498
00:22:51,759 --> 00:22:53,839
Speaker 4: I once found a picture of me that someone had

499
00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:56,559
photoshopped to make me look like a bed where my

500
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,559
head is the footboard and.

501
00:22:58,599 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 1: My ass is bad.

502
00:23:01,839 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 4: I was like, who thinks some of this you should

503
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,720
make that bed? I was like, girl, I don't know

504
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,279
what this is. Like I know, to all my friends

505
00:23:10,319 --> 00:23:13,039
it was like I've made it. I like, I'm so famous.

506
00:23:13,079 --> 00:23:14,400
Someone photoshopped me into.

507
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: A bed like that is wild man.

508
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,079
Speaker 3: I mean this was like a very It was just

509
00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:23,079
so funny. We did not expect to find that. And

510
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,200
I'm just there was so many there was.

511
00:23:26,279 --> 00:23:31,039
Speaker 4: So many way Oh my god, I just couldn't believe that.

512
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 3: I was just like, wow, like, where are these Someone's

513
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:34,759
really into this?

514
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 1: At least it My dick looked nice. It's a nice dick.

515
00:23:40,079 --> 00:23:42,279
Speaker 2: I love how off track we've gone immediately.

516
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 1: This is great. Oh my god. Boy.

517
00:23:46,519 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 3: Okay, so you are now in the top point, right, Yeah,

518
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,119
that is very hard to achieve.

519
00:23:53,759 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know.

520
00:23:55,319 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 3: If people like even realize like how much money that is.

521
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,960
But it's a lot, won't You can say numbers if

522
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,799
you want, but I won't. I won't blow your cover

523
00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:04,559
if you're trying to keep it. No, I'm usually really

524
00:24:04,599 --> 00:24:05,480
open about numbers.

525
00:24:05,519 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 4: That's what I know, because I think it's better for everyone, yeah,

526
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:09,839
to be open.

527
00:24:10,039 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: So, how much does someone in the top one percent make.

528
00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:18,839
Speaker 4: Anywhere above like two hundred and ninety three hundred thousand

529
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:19,279
a month?

530
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,039
Speaker 3: And how do you think that you've been able to

531
00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:25,880
like achieve that level, because that is that is the

532
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,559
level that most creators won't.

533
00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: Hit honestly, I don't really know.

534
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:39,839
Speaker 4: Louck question Mark, Like, I don't think anybody looks like me,

535
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,279
which is helpful.

536
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,799
Speaker 2: I exist as a niche, which is helpful.

537
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,519
Speaker 1: What would you say your niches.

538
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:54,079
Speaker 2: Here? I am like, I me, I'm the nieche whatever

539
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,839
this is Like, yeah, I don't know.

540
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 4: It's funny too, because when I cut my hair off,

541
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,079
I was like, boys aren't gonna like me anymore. It's

542
00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:00,920
gonna be so much harder to But I just hated

543
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,240
the long I hated it. Now Here I am, and

544
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,319
I'm like, well, what a good thing to be wrong about?

545
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:05,559
Speaker 2: Hey?

546
00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, right? So what kind of content do you do?

547
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:10,519
Speaker 2: Still?

548
00:25:10,599 --> 00:25:15,799
Speaker 4: Like very kind of vanilla ish. I film a lot

549
00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:18,640
of girl girl content, a lot of like strap content.

550
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,599
I do a lot of like sexting, Like a lot

551
00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:25,279
of like sexting sets that are kind of fun, Like

552
00:25:25,319 --> 00:25:27,920
I just filmed a little sexting set where I'm a

553
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,880
I don't know if you've seen the show Invincible, but

554
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,880
I'm a Vulturemite is comic book shit, you know.

555
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: But okay, So do you do a lot of cosplay?

556
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 4: No, I just know I don't, but like once in

557
00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:43,640
a while, I will, but I'll just make these like

558
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,359
fun little sexting sets of wherever I am or whatever's

559
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,200
on my brain. Sometimes I'm just like hiking and I'm like, oh,

560
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,160
what if I'd go on this tiny little trail and

561
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,920
make a sexting set over here and something like that.

562
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,279
So that's really fun. I do shoot some boy girl.

563
00:25:57,319 --> 00:25:59,440
I have like a stunt d that I shoot with

564
00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:02,920
and stuff, a stuntic, a stuntick. Yeah, I got a stuntick.

565
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: So just like a friend with benefits.

566
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 4: It's a friend with benefits. I know him from my

567
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,359
sailing days. So we've been friends for like several several

568
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,359
years and he's been helping me out with content for

569
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,279
a long time. Wow.

570
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,079
Speaker 1: Does he have his own only fans or just shoots

571
00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:15,240
for you?

572
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 2: Just shoots for me?

573
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

574
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

575
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 4: So he gets paid like per video and he's pretty

576
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,000
happy with that. And he's working his way through a

577
00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:24,160
master's degree and stuff. So it's kind of like a

578
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,440
good mutually beneficial scenario.

579
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: Right right, Oh my god, that's awesome. Yeah. So how

580
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,319
long did it take you to get to the point,

581
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,079
oh one percent?

582
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: After I graduated.

583
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 4: It took me a about nine ten months. It's not

584
00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:44,000
that long, no, Yeah, I really locked in on that one.

585
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,839
I was like I want this, like I want to

586
00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:47,599
do it. So I got a pr team and like

587
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,000
I just started making tons and tons and tons of

588
00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:55,079
Instagram reels like I used to post like once ish

589
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,640
a day on TikTok only because that's really all I

590
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,480
had time for when I was doing my and that

591
00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:01,279
was enough.

592
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 2: Like that that got me plenty of money.

593
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 4: But since I've been able to lock in and do

594
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,319
a lot more on social media, the growth has been

595
00:27:08,759 --> 00:27:09,880
much much quicker.

596
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So I want to circle back to

597
00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:15,039
saying I actually kind of mentioned the beginning of this

598
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,640
podcast and something that is like a big deal now

599
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,559
for creators and social media crackdowns on OnlyFans promotion. It's

600
00:27:21,559 --> 00:27:25,200
getting more and more aggressive. Has that affected your strategy

601
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,759
at all? And do you have any plans to adapt.

602
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 4: Or it hasn't really affected my strategy because I make

603
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,759
such PG content outside of OnlyFans, Like I do a

604
00:27:35,759 --> 00:27:39,839
lot of like skits or talking content where I'm talking

605
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,359
about the industry. So I don't really make a lot

606
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,279
of like thirst traps because I'm just not very good

607
00:27:45,319 --> 00:27:48,839
at them. So it's it's been okay for me, Like

608
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,720
I've never really had flags on my account. I've never

609
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,359
been super worried about it. I do try to get

610
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,920
ahead of things. So, like recently, I think link and

611
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,079
bios are a big.

612
00:27:58,920 --> 00:27:59,759
Speaker 1: Flag right now.

613
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 4: So it's like, okay, we'll just take it out, move

614
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,480
it to the highlight like everybody else.

615
00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: Oh is that what people are doing?

616
00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:06,759
Speaker 4: Yeah? People are taking the link in bio and just

617
00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:08,119
putting it in a story highlight.

618
00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: Oh.

619
00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:11,079
Speaker 3: Interesting, because that what I did was I got a

620
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,000
second link in bio and that first layer is all

621
00:28:14,039 --> 00:28:16,559
safe for work, okay, and then there's a link in

622
00:28:16,599 --> 00:28:18,000
there that goes to my link in bio.

623
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: I think that's also a double layer.

624
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think you just want to be careful that

625
00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:26,079
it's not opening in the Instagram browser, right yeah, because

626
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,559
then they can they have access to.

627
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,079
Speaker 2: All that data.

628
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,599
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, you have to have what are called deep.

629
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 2: Links, I think, yeah, deep links. Yeah.

630
00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the only modification you've really made.

631
00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:38,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't affect me too much right now.

632
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:41,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, And how do you think it would affect you, like, say,

633
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,799
your Instagram gets shut down because I feel like, I mean,

634
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:47,400
the thing is is that the the rules change constantly

635
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,480
and they don't tell us.

636
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I they just fucking ban you.

637
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:55,559
Speaker 3: I mean I've had very little problems with my Yeah,

638
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,279
let's see so far. But you know, I every day

639
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,640
it makes me nervous.

640
00:29:01,519 --> 00:29:03,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you just wake up and it's gone one

641
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,359
day and you don't even know why.

642
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,039
Speaker 1: Half the time, No, they don't tell you.

643
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,599
Speaker 4: I think I could get it back probably if something happened,

644
00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:13,079
but I would probably just I do have a backup.

645
00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:15,039
Speaker 2: I mean, if you've built it once, you can build

646
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:16,680
it again. Yeah you can.

647
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 4: And it's like a horrible setback and it sucks so bad,

648
00:29:20,279 --> 00:29:22,559
But if you've built it once, you can you can

649
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:23,200
build it again.

650
00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: Let's talk about agencies. You've encountered some predatory agencies. What

651
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:32,559
are without naming anyone, what are the tactics you've seen

652
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,519
they use girls to sign and maybe for those people

653
00:29:35,559 --> 00:29:38,039
who don't know, like explain kind of what an agency does.

654
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:39,079
Speaker 1: Yeah.

655
00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:41,119
Speaker 4: So I've been having a lot of run ins with

656
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,680
these things lately, since I've been doing a lot more

657
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,720
collabhouses and like working with a lot more girls, and

658
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:52,200
it's been pretty astounding what these agencies are like doing

659
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:55,559
to these girls, and like getting away with every agency

660
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,839
is different. They handle different parts of things. But they

661
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,279
might help with your social media. They might help with

662
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,640
managing your only fans. They might help with like getting

663
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,519
you pr like all that kind of.

664
00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:12,319
Speaker 3: Stuff, creating content, creating contented stuff, like keeping customs organized.

665
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,839
Speaker 2: Sometimes they'll run these content houses.

666
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,079
Speaker 4: A lot of the time, they'll run these content houses

667
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:19,440
so they'll invite like bigger creators who they know are

668
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,960
making more money so that like we can come in

669
00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:24,960
and interact with the girls in their agency and make

670
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,920
a bunch of content with the girls in their agencies

671
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,839
so that hopefully their girls can get that publicity and

672
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,960
then also hopefully they can sign us.

673
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: Right.

674
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,039
Speaker 4: So, I recently went to a content house that was like,

675
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,799
it was like pretty good. It was pretty good, but

676
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:44,119
the the guys running this agency were pulling girls aside.

677
00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:46,480
They had like a presentation set up in a different

678
00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:48,720
room in the house, and it was like on a

679
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,960
big TV and stuff, and they would pull a girl

680
00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:54,079
one at a time who wasn't signed with them, and

681
00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:55,720
they would put her in this room with them, and

682
00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:59,359
it would be this girl surrounded by like five guys,

683
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,720
put this presentation up, give her the whole presentation, and

684
00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:04,640
then put a contract in front of her right there

685
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:08,519
and make her sign it. And so one of the

686
00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:10,599
girls I actually got to send me her contract because

687
00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:11,720
I was really worried about her.

688
00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:13,799
Speaker 2: I was like, give this to me. I used to

689
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:14,640
work for a law firm.

690
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,799
Speaker 4: It's like, obviously I can't give you any like legal advice,

691
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:18,680
but I can tell you if it's really.

692
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,599
Speaker 1: Bad, you know, yeah, I can look for red flags.

693
00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:23,599
Speaker 4: And it was like we take fifty percent, we own

694
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,880
your likeness, we like blah blah blah. And it was

695
00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:28,200
just like I was like, I can't believe you signed this,

696
00:31:28,359 --> 00:31:30,079
Like get out of there. I think they had like

697
00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:32,279
some thirty day clause or something like that. But they

698
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:36,680
usually try to get girls who aren't making very much money. Yeah,

699
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,359
like they didn't even try it with me, but I

700
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,680
heard from like three or four other girls.

701
00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: This is what happened.

702
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:44,319
Speaker 4: So they try to get girls who aren't making that

703
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,680
much money with the hope that they can kind of

704
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,279
like churn and burn them.

705
00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: So they get you in.

706
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,119
Speaker 4: Maybe you're making like ninety one hundred km month, which

707
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,000
is like really good money but not crazy, not like

708
00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:57,799
the highest you could make in the only Fans world,

709
00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:00,400
so you're not necessarily a girl who have a lot

710
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,119
of connections or a lot of power. Yet and they

711
00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:05,039
get you in there and they get you to sign

712
00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:08,279
this contract. They take fifty percent, and then they like

713
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,279
burn your account to the ground and they lock you

714
00:32:11,319 --> 00:32:14,200
into like a year long contract, and they just like

715
00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:17,599
squeeze the girls for every penny they can get out

716
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:17,920
of them.

717
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 3: And then and then sometimes what they'll do is they'll

718
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:25,400
promote other girls on their page to get their other

719
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,880
girls exactly more numbers exactly.

720
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,039
Speaker 4: So they'll have their like big fish clients who do

721
00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:31,759
make a lot of money and have a lot of power,

722
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,599
and they are interested in making that girl more and

723
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,000
more and more money because she's the girl who carries

724
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:41,160
their reputation. So she's the girl going around saying, yeah,

725
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,240
I have this agency, they make me so much money,

726
00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:46,000
blah blah blah. And so they they'll do like shout

727
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,519
outs for her page on a smaller model's page and

728
00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:52,799
try to get their whales to go to And I

729
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:56,039
actually heard them. I had like a bedroom right above

730
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,799
what they were using as an office, and I actually

731
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,759
heard them talking about how they could get different girls

732
00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:05,319
whales to migrate to their girl's accounts.

733
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: And stuff like that, and I was like, wow, that

734
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:08,599
is crazy.

735
00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 3: So, for those of you who don't know, a whale

736
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,559
is a fan that spends a lot of money, A

737
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:13,640
lot of money, a lot of money.

738
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: That's what they call him. Yeah, I actually crazy.

739
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: I had a model contact me yesterday saying like, hey,

740
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,880
so and so told me to contact you.

741
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, who the fuck is that?

742
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,319
Speaker 3: She's like so and so of this like blank, Yeah,

743
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,759
OnlyFans Agency said that, like they work with you and

744
00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:28,920
that you'd vouch them.

745
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've never heard of them. I have no

746
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,039
idea who you were talking.

747
00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:34,599
Speaker 2: About, because I think they kind of bet that you.

748
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: Won't won't check references, or that you won't.

749
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: Reply because you're too big, you know what I mean,

750
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:42,119
Like you won't give that girl to the time of day.

751
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

752
00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: It was like I literally have no clue who that is,

753
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:51,440
Like don't yeah, it's pretty It's so bad.

754
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 4: I actually got in touch with a I was telling

755
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,720
a different friend about this, and he works for like

756
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:03,799
what does he do? He does like social media management,

757
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,000
works with streamers and stuff like that, but he works

758
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,079
with like a lot of OnlyFans girls, And he was like,

759
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:10,079
I have someone very interesting for you to talk to.

760
00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:11,719
And he gave me the phone number of a contract

761
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,880
attorney and I called her up and she was like,

762
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,159
obviously I can't give names, obviously I can't like cite

763
00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:19,199
exact things, but let me tell you about all these

764
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,800
contracts and like what to look out for because I've

765
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:24,320
litigated on several of them.

766
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, okay.

767
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 4: So she talked to me for like an hour about

768
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,599
these contracts and about the methods these agencies are using

769
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:34,280
to get girls to sign, and like a lot of

770
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,400
these contracts don't stand up, like they use a lot

771
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,519
of scare tactics. So like you can't force someone to

772
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,480
like do sex work for you for like a year,

773
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:47,679
you know what I mean. You can't lock someone into that.

774
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,920
I've never heard of a girl wasn't able to get

775
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,639
out of it, you know what I mean. But girls

776
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:54,280
don't know that, so they will scare you, and they

777
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,719
will put a bunch of pressure on you, and they

778
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,719
will take all of your money and they'll write in

779
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,800
these clauses where they're like you can leave, but you

780
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,119
have to give us two hundred grand or like whatever,

781
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,159
like you have to buy us out. Yeah, and girls

782
00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:09,199
don't know any better. They get girls who are new

783
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,440
to the industry. They get girls who don't have friends,

784
00:35:11,519 --> 00:35:13,679
who don't have connections, and they don't know any better.

785
00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:16,639
And nobody talks about agencies because it's like very hush hush.

786
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 3: What advice would you give to somebody who might be

787
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,079
watching this right now and is considering getting an agency, Like,

788
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:23,159
what should they look out for?

789
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,039
Speaker 4: I think you need to just be very careful with

790
00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:29,000
what you sign, particularly with AI nowadays.

791
00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:31,039
Speaker 2: Make sure you are not giving anybody else the rights

792
00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:32,199
to your likeness.

793
00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:34,639
Speaker 1: Because which has been popping up in contracts.

794
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,519
Speaker 3: It has been Yeah, I've seen it being snuck into

795
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:40,840
like even performing like model contracts for studios.

796
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, for like reputable studios, they'll.

797
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,199
Speaker 2: Own it forever and ever and ever, and you don't

798
00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:45,519
want that.

799
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 4: Have at the bare minimum two friends read it through

800
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,000
like page to page with you, because they might be

801
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,639
able to notice something. If you can afford it, certainly,

802
00:35:55,679 --> 00:35:58,119
have an attorney read it, like one hundred percent. Have

803
00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:00,360
an attorney read it, and have an attorney look into

804
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,880
the agency because a lot of the time these agencies

805
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,599
have a whole bunch of court cases.

806
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,519
Speaker 2: That your attorney can pull up.

807
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,559
Speaker 4: So I had a different agency that I went, and

808
00:36:11,639 --> 00:36:13,960
I have this thing where I talk to everybody. I'm like,

809
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,239
if you reach out to me and you want to

810
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,800
talk to me, I'll talk to you. Like it might

811
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,719
not be in your best interest, but I'll talk to you,

812
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,119
you know. And So I went and I toured their

813
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:23,119
content house and I did this whole thing, and I

814
00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:25,639
was just kind of yapping with them, and they sent

815
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:27,559
me a contract and all this stuff, and I was like, huh,

816
00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:29,400
and I had my attorney look into them.

817
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:35,119
Speaker 2: They have several several several ongoing lawsuits with models.

818
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: Wow.

819
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 2: And I was like, interesting, interesting.

820
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,599
Speaker 4: Well that's public. That's like public information that an attorney

821
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:42,119
can get for you.

822
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: Also, I will say chat GBT is your friend or

823
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,440
any other AI program that you use, take your contract,

824
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,840
put it in there, and then ask it.

825
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: For red flags.

826
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,159
Speaker 3: I'll at least give you some kind of basic idea

827
00:36:55,199 --> 00:36:57,519
of what you're looking at. It's always best to get

828
00:36:57,559 --> 00:36:59,800
a lawyer to review if you can, but if you can't,

829
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:01,519
at the minimum do that.

830
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can also ask chat GPT like if a

831
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,360
person or an entity has ever been involved in any controversy.

832
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,880
That's a really good thing to ask chatchipt. A girl

833
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:12,760
just told me that like two weeks ago, and I've

834
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,119
been doing it ever since. For if I'm clabbing with girls.

835
00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:17,920
If like someone reaches out to me and they're like,

836
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,360
I want to work with you whatever, I'm like, okay, well,

837
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,079
chat ept, where's the dirt?

838
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:23,079
Speaker 2: Like, what have they done?

839
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,079
Speaker 1: Yeah? You know what, that's actually smart.

840
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: I didn't because I think before it wasn't very good

841
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,599
at searching the web. Yeah, but I think it's changed.

842
00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:33,079
I actually clawed now, Okay, I prefer it. I've had

843
00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:35,880
that problem with podcast guests. Yeah, I've had podcast guests

844
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,639
on and I didn't know that they did this or that, and.

845
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,199
Speaker 4: Then you're like and then people yell at me, and

846
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,199
I'm like, how are you supposed to know?

847
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: I can't keep everything in the world.

848
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,559
Speaker 4: You can't vet twenty years of somebody, ten years of

849
00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:52,159
somebody being in the street, like by yourself.

850
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 2: Right, you're here, you're.

851
00:37:53,199 --> 00:37:55,599
Speaker 4: Running all the cameras, you're doing all this, You're drafting

852
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:58,920
your questions like, it's just it's it's a lot.

853
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of OnlyFans, there's been a lot of chatter

854
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,800
lately about the show's euphoria and Margo's Got Money Troubles

855
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,320
featuring OnlyFans as a narrative as part of the show,

856
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,119
and there's been a lot of.

857
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: People who have had things to say about that. What's

858
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:16,880
your opinion.

859
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 2: I haven't seen Margo's Got Money Troubles.

860
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,519
Speaker 4: It's on my like to watch list, but I've been

861
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:24,039
keeping up with Euphoria Euphoria.

862
00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:25,599
Speaker 2: I think it's been very interesting.

863
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 4: I do sort of resent that Hollywood is becoming interested

864
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,960
in this idea of talking about OnlyFans models, but that

865
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:41,039
we are so barred from any actual involvement with like

866
00:38:41,159 --> 00:38:45,159
the film industry for the most part, because I know

867
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,400
like several OnlyFans models, so I think would be really

868
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,320
good actors.

869
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 3: So I will say, like in like for Euphoria, they did,

870
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:53,119
they do have Chloe Chair.

871
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: They do have Chloe Cherry. But doesn't she hate OnlyFans now?

872
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 4: She? Because I think she posted a bunch of stuff

873
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,360
where she was like, you can do better, like blah

874
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:07,000
blah blah, So she's a turn Coach's they'll hire a

875
00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:14,039
turn coat like, come on, ridiculous. But as far as

876
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:18,559
Cassie's character, if you just like isolate her experience with OnlyFans,

877
00:39:18,559 --> 00:39:20,840
I think it's like pretty good. I think they did

878
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,000
a good job. They do a fair job of highlighting

879
00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:27,639
our vices and our virtues with this character. Our virtues

880
00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:30,679
are that like we are incredibly hard working, like we

881
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,039
are there to hustle, we're there to make money.

882
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: But maybe one of the.

883
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 4: Character flaws that a lot of us have, particularly when

884
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,599
you're really really new to the industry, and I think

885
00:39:41,639 --> 00:39:46,320
it's very understandable, is that there's this like anxiety around

886
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:51,360
everything that makes you very a little like desperate, a

887
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,679
little clout chasy, a little like because at any moment,

888
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:59,039
everything could disappear. Every dollar you're making could disappear. And

889
00:39:59,079 --> 00:40:00,840
so I think that most people when they start out

890
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,840
in the industry, I think they're anxious and a little rattled,

891
00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:06,199
and I don't think that they always like make the

892
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,559
best decisions or represent themselves the best. And I think

893
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:12,480
they did a good job of portraying that while also

894
00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:15,679
portraying the things that are really good about her well.

895
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:19,159
Speaker 3: I think it's also interesting too, because it's like, not

896
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,320
only could sure like the bottom fallout and you could

897
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,559
lose everything, but then you're still stamped with that scarlet letter, right,

898
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,079
and it make and you can't. A lot of people

899
00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:32,239
will have difficulty moving on to doing something else. So

900
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,679
it's like you've thrown all your eggs into this one

901
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,039
basket by getting into sex work, and if it doesn't

902
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:40,159
work out for you, like the world doesn't allow you

903
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,559
to move on and like do something else with your life.

904
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,679
Speaker 2: And she very much is like doing what it takes.

905
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 4: You know what she does some shady stuff that definitely

906
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,119
isn't like the right or nice thing to do, but

907
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:54,559
you can kind of understand why she does it because

908
00:40:55,559 --> 00:40:59,519
there's so much anxiety around that, like what you know.

909
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: I haven't watched the new season of a Euphoria.

910
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 3: I actually really loved the show, but I just like,

911
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,360
I've just been I think I've just been busy, and

912
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,440
I've read like mixed views about it, so I was like,

913
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,400
I'm not sure it's worth my time at the moment. Plus,

914
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,599
I'm watching Yellowstone right now, is which is not like

915
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,480
a great show, but it's sort of like a guilty pleasure.

916
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:21,639
Speaker 4: Well, and you're locked in, Like I get locked in

917
00:41:21,679 --> 00:41:23,079
on the show and I'm like, I'll get to the

918
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:23,599
next one.

919
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:30,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. It's I mean some of the writings whatever

920
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,599
you're enjoying. I enjoyed enough to watch it like on

921
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:35,639
a regular basis.

922
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

923
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,119
Speaker 3: So one other thing that people have been commenting on,

924
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,159
and I think that this is a you know, something

925
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,320
that we see a lot, and I'm sure like you

926
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,760
can relate to this actually being somebody who's doing really

927
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,880
well on only Fans, but this idea that like any

928
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,519
woman can get into OnlyFans and like suddenly make like

929
00:41:55,559 --> 00:41:59,119
a massive amount of money, and that it plays into

930
00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:01,519
that idea, it's misleading for young women.

931
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:06,639
Speaker 4: Oh, with Euphoria, Yeah, I there is that component, but

932
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,400
I think they kind of so, like the plotline in Euphoria,

933
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,239
since you haven't seen it, is is, you know, Cassie

934
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,440
really wants to get into OnlyFans. She's making like a

935
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,239
little bit of money, and then her fiance makes her

936
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,760
delete her account. Her best friend comes back in her life,

937
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,840
and she's been kind of managing OnlyFans girls, and she

938
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,400
has a whole bunch of connections in Hollywood. She's friends

939
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,079
with a whole bunch of stars, and so she comes

940
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:35,239
up with this like ploy to get Cassie into this

941
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,679
party where there's a famous guy and get on his

942
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,519
like Instagram feed, like get on his Instagram stories, and

943
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:46,280
so they they kind of come up with this nasty

944
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,960
little scheme to basically immediately get her a ton of publicity.

945
00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:53,840
And from that standpoint, I think that's true that if

946
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,440
you get a ton of publicity, like you really like

947
00:42:56,559 --> 00:42:59,719
millions and millions and millions of people see your face, Yeah,

948
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,960
you might start off at a pretty in a pretty

949
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,320
strong place on only fans.

950
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

951
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,159
Speaker 3: And some people do some pretty I mean, I see

952
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:12,920
people doing some crazy shit online to get those eyeballs.

953
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,159
Speaker 4: Right, But like, I think you got to bear in

954
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,840
mind that although there's that immediate gratification maybe of like

955
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,559
making money, there's this sort of I don't know, there's

956
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:24,719
this like little humiliation you never lived down depending on

957
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,320
the press you get or depending on.

958
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,639
Speaker 1: Keep talked to a girl. Oh yeah, you know that's you.

959
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:32,559
Speaker 2: She talk to you, don't You don't even know her name.

960
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,039
Speaker 1: She's hawked to a girl I don't know her name.

961
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,639
Speaker 2: Right, And that's like that's humiliating.

962
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:42,519
Speaker 3: Have been better off just jumping on only fans, she

963
00:43:42,559 --> 00:43:45,760
would be doing so much better. She was like, I'm

964
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,639
too good for only fans. I'm gonna get to crypto.

965
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: Whoops.

966
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, so less money in crypto.

967
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: That is that is a sketchy business.

968
00:43:53,519 --> 00:43:57,519
Speaker 2: That is that is just gambling, just gambling.

969
00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, But I mean, like, what would you say

970
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:05,039
with the idea that you know we are like playing

971
00:44:05,079 --> 00:44:09,119
a false narrative to like young women joining only fans.

972
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,320
I've seen your content obviously, but I haven't seen all

973
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,239
of it. Yeah, like do you talk do you ever

974
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,159
talk about how?

975
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,199
Speaker 4: I talk about it a little bit, But it's honestly,

976
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,719
like hard because it's not an experience I've lived. Like

977
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,599
I understand that most women, I think the average is

978
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:28,639
like two hundred dollars a month or something on only

979
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:29,760
pretty for jumping on.

980
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:30,639
Speaker 2: It's really low.

981
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,679
Speaker 4: It's really really low what I tell my friends and stuff,

982
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,639
because I've had several girlfriends come up to me and

983
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:40,000
they're like, do you think I could do this? And

984
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:43,400
I tell them all seriously, I'm like, I think most

985
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,719
women could do this and make quite good money. But

986
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,719
I think you have to be willing to make content

987
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,320
for free on social media for a year first, and

988
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,400
most girls aren't willing to do that. They want to

989
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,239
open the only fans. They want to make a couple

990
00:44:58,199 --> 00:44:59,480
of their straps, and they want to get a whole

991
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:00,239
bunch of money.

992
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: That's not how it works.

993
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 4: I do think any almost anybody could make money on OnlyFans,

994
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,360
Like there's so much body diversity, there's so much like

995
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,320
there's girls in wheelchairs making tons of money on OnlyFans,

996
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,760
there's tall women, short women.

997
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:17,119
Speaker 3: I was talking to one of the executives at Only

998
00:45:17,159 --> 00:45:19,519
Fans and he says that little people actually are some

999
00:45:19,559 --> 00:45:20,239
of the highest time.

1000
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: Totally.

1001
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, so I think anyone could do it.

1002
00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:28,159
But like, I think why I was so successful is

1003
00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:30,679
because I was making content, Like I had an audience

1004
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,360
that had a relationship with me where I wasn't asking

1005
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,000
them for anything for a long time. And I think

1006
00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:40,840
that that's very, very powerful. So I think if you're

1007
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,480
willing to build an audience and truly connect with them,

1008
00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:49,000
yes you can succeed on OnlyFans. If you're looking just

1009
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:52,079
for quick monetary gain, you will fail.

1010
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 3: That's good advice to start off without building an audience,

1011
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,440
without asking for anything, because then it feels more authentic

1012
00:45:59,519 --> 00:46:02,360
and not that you're just trying to get people to

1013
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,679
spend money on you. Then people feel connected to you,

1014
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,199
and then they like want to support you, right, Yeah,

1015
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,599
but that's a year without that's most people don't want

1016
00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:12,559
to wait that long. I think people like they don't,

1017
00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:15,079
like you said, they don't know how hard it is,

1018
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:16,440
and they don't want to put in the time.

1019
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,199
Speaker 4: Right, it's a lot of work, but only fans is

1020
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,960
all about a relationship.

1021
00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: Like it's all about people who like.

1022
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,559
Speaker 4: Know you and they want to connect with you, and

1023
00:46:25,559 --> 00:46:27,679
they want to see more from you, and they're invested

1024
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:28,000
in you.

1025
00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:28,639
Speaker 2: And it's like.

1026
00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 4: People aren't on there necessarily just strictly for porn, or

1027
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,079
they would just go to a porn hub, right, and

1028
00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:38,159
so like, if you think you can just make porn

1029
00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:40,599
and make a whole bunch of money, probably aren't really

1030
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:42,079
understanding what the platform is.

1031
00:46:42,639 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 3: All right, let's pivot to some fun stories. Yeah, you

1032
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,519
hired a male escort for a night in Australia?

1033
00:46:48,559 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 2: Did yeah about that?

1034
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 4: I thought it would be kind of like a fun,

1035
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:53,960
interesting experience.

1036
00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:56,519
Speaker 2: It's legal there, so I was like, you know what

1037
00:46:56,639 --> 00:46:57,320
when in Rome?

1038
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 4: You know, so I booked a five star hotel and

1039
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,280
like we were gonna go to dinner and all this stuff.

1040
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,880
He's a little older. I think he was like forty

1041
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,199
one or so, and he was in like really good shape,

1042
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,119
and it was it was it was cool. So he

1043
00:47:11,159 --> 00:47:13,519
came and he met me at the hotel. I found

1044
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:16,159
him on Scarlet Blue, I think, which is like their

1045
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,519
Australian male escort website. So I just found a guy

1046
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,719
on Scarlet Blue and I thought it would be kind

1047
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,920
of fun because like I wanted a hookup, but sometimes

1048
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,760
having hookups when you are so in like the public eye,

1049
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,159
can be a little sketchy. Yeah, So I was like, ah,

1050
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,679
this might be kind of fun, like you can go

1051
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:40,119
have a little hookup. I can let looseen know, yeah,

1052
00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:43,079
those strings. So I was like okay. So I booked

1053
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:45,840
him for four hours and he met me at the hotel.

1054
00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:49,400
We kind of started off on a weird foot because

1055
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,559
I was messaging him a couple of nights prior and

1056
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:54,000
he was like, where do you want to go for dinner?

1057
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,599
And I was like, well, I don't really know the area.

1058
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,719
Do you have any recommendations? And he was like no.

1059
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,239
It was like okay, I'll figure it out. That included

1060
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,239
in your rate that you helped me pick out a restaurant. Yeah.

1061
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 2: I was like, can you just like I'll pay for dinner,

1062
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,400
you know, it's like obviously, but just get what's good,

1063
00:48:10,519 --> 00:48:13,199
what is good around you live here? Like yeah, and

1064
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,320
he was like no, I don't really know.

1065
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh okay, So we made a

1066
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,840
I made a reservation at like a steak place.

1067
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: He came and met me at the hotel.

1068
00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 4: I was wearing like really tall Jimmy choos and he

1069
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,079
was like, let's walk to the restaurant and I was

1070
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:31,960
like yeah, no, Like so I ordered an uber uber

1071
00:48:32,039 --> 00:48:37,119
to the restaurant and then we were like eating and

1072
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:40,519
he just kept being like, you're the most beautiful thing here.

1073
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 2: You're so beautiful. You're just so beautiful.

1074
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:45,199
Speaker 4: I would be like, wow, what a nice view, and

1075
00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:46,760
He's like, not as nice as my view.

1076
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,199
Speaker 2: And I was like okay, okay, okay, we get it.

1077
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 4: And I actually said something to him at some point

1078
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,480
and I was like that was five. You're done, Like

1079
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:55,280
you can't say that to me anymore.

1080
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 3: He's probably used to dealing with like older women who

1081
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,320
were real have low self esteem, right, and like, because

1082
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,800
I mean, like, let's be honest, it's not as hard

1083
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,840
for a man as it is for a woman to

1084
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:09,400
get laid.

1085
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean.

1086
00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:15,199
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I imagine he's probably women who are

1087
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:20,400
nervous about it, shy, maybe insecure with their looks.

1088
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was really funny. He was a very good

1089
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,639
like companion, you know. So we we had some conversations

1090
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:28,119
those one okay, and then he snuck away and paid

1091
00:49:28,119 --> 00:49:29,800
for dinner, which I was surprised by because I had

1092
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,119
a bunch of cash to pay for dinner.

1093
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, you know, just your bill

1094
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,000
at the end. This is weird.

1095
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:39,199
Speaker 4: So we go back up to the hotel room. He

1096
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:40,800
was like, what kind of music do you like? And

1097
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,119
it was like nineties grunge and he was like really

1098
00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:45,440
like yeah, it.

1099
00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: Was like put it on some Nirvana bed.

1100
00:49:47,519 --> 00:49:51,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, put on like acoustic Nirvana covers and like Alice

1101
00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:52,079
and Chains.

1102
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: Unplugged Nirvana unplug.

1103
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,039
Speaker 4: Like Alice and Chains covers it was. And I was like, yeah,

1104
00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:00,000
this music is great. We had like a little tree

1105
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,119
and then we kind of started getting into things and

1106
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,960
he kind of wasn't the like expert in bed that

1107
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,599
I had hoped for. Really, have you ever had a

1108
00:50:10,599 --> 00:50:13,719
guy and he's like figuring you and then he starts

1109
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:18,880
going like side to side inside probably I was like, hmm.

1110
00:50:19,079 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 2: Ok, okay, weird, like no, it's no, no.

1111
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,199
Speaker 4: This way yeah, this way or this way like okay, yeah,

1112
00:50:29,199 --> 00:50:32,679
but not this way, not this way, but weird. It

1113
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,679
was really weird. And then he like he was wearing

1114
00:50:35,679 --> 00:50:38,639
a column and he came and then he kept going

1115
00:50:38,679 --> 00:50:41,159
and I was like did you come? And he was like,

1116
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:44,079
uh yeah, and I was like, well, we're not trying

1117
00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:45,920
to like make a milkshake, like you can take that

1118
00:50:46,039 --> 00:50:48,800
off and it's like you're not supposed to keep sucking

1119
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,679
her after you come on the condom because it can

1120
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:51,880
come up out of the side.

1121
00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And also like, wasn't his dick getting song?

1122
00:50:54,159 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 4: No?

1123
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: He was like still hard, So I was confused because

1124
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,320
he was still hard. So I was like, did you

1125
00:50:59,440 --> 00:50:59,880
just call?

1126
00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:02,199
Speaker 4: And then he goes and he takes the conum off

1127
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:03,719
and stuff and he comes back and he was like

1128
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:04,480
do you want to keep going?

1129
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: And I was like, honestly, no, that's okay.

1130
00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:08,519
Speaker 4: I'm so good, but like I appreciate you, and I

1131
00:51:08,599 --> 00:51:10,920
like gave him his money and I started like running

1132
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,760
the bathtub because it was a five star hotel with

1133
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,119
like a gorgeous view and a big bathtub. So I

1134
00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:17,320
had a pack of harborbo gummy bears and like a

1135
00:51:17,639 --> 00:51:21,159
diet soda, like turn on the bathtub, and I'm like

1136
00:51:21,159 --> 00:51:24,039
you can, you can go, man, like it's good and

1137
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:26,199
he was like, huh, you don't want me to stay longer,

1138
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,519
like I can give you a massage or something like whatever.

1139
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,840
And I was like, Eh, it's really it's good. I'm

1140
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,199
gonna like take this bath It's gonna be great. So

1141
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,920
he starts like getting all his stuff and I go,

1142
00:51:35,039 --> 00:51:35,920
don't let me haunt you.

1143
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: He gets back to his apartment, he starts.

1144
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 4: Texting me, sending me like videos of his apartment and stuff.

1145
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,559
I'm a little bit of like a California sober girl.

1146
00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:47,760
If you get my drift. He's like, he's like, you

1147
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,960
come here, we could smoke something like blah blah blah.

1148
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,159
And I was like And then two weeks later he

1149
00:51:53,199 --> 00:51:55,760
texts me again and I'm like, I stid not to

1150
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:56,599
let me haunt you.

1151
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: Like how he liked you.

1152
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,519
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, he probably doesn't get a lot

1153
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:03,159
of dates like you.

1154
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,199
Speaker 4: I think it was a really like weird experience for

1155
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,199
us both. Yeah, because I think he's like very good

1156
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,880
for what he does, which is probably companionate relationships with

1157
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,840
older women. Yeah, but he wasn't very good in bed,

1158
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,599
and he was like very not very smooth, like.

1159
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:20,559
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1160
00:52:21,079 --> 00:52:23,199
Speaker 4: But he was very highly rated and he won like

1161
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,760
some awards and stuff, so like, yeah, I wasn't trying.

1162
00:52:26,599 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: To get like, you know, I wanted like a nice one.

1163
00:52:28,679 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 4: You know.

1164
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: That's so disappointing.

1165
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 4: It was a little disappointing and it cost me like

1166
00:52:36,039 --> 00:52:39,039
three yrand Australian by the time everything was done and

1167
00:52:39,079 --> 00:52:39,719
stuff like that.

1168
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 3: So I was like, I hired a sex worker once,

1169
00:52:43,159 --> 00:52:46,639
teach you Yeah in Amsterdam, oh in Amsterdam, okay, okay,

1170
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,000
with my boyfriend a man or a woman.

1171
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:51,559
Speaker 1: It was a woman, okay, okay.

1172
00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 3: Right after I graduated high school, we went to Amsterdam,

1173
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:59,159
like is there kind of like college thing, and.

1174
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: Well, the problem was is that.

1175
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 3: We went at the end of our trip and I

1176
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,360
was paying for most of the trip because he didn't

1177
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,400
have that much money and I didn't have that much

1178
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,719
money either. I mean, I was a fucking student and

1179
00:53:13,639 --> 00:53:16,360
I couldn't afford the really hot ones at that point,

1180
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:22,079
so I just stop. I had to go like bargain

1181
00:53:22,119 --> 00:53:24,519
and negotiate, and then I finally found someone was like okay,

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like they weren't couldn't afford like the really hot ones,

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and she just was not interested in me at all

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at all.

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Speaker 1: And I'm actually very straight.

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Speaker 2: I'm not into women, but a three times only fun

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if everyone. Yeah, but like the thing, this.

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Speaker 1: Is this environmental time for me.

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Speaker 3: I was young, I was high, and she like ate

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me out for a little bit and I could tell

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she just wasn't into it.

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Speaker 1: And then I was just like, just you can just

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have sex. Let my boyfriend fuck you not watch.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I guess, so I just like, I was like,

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you can just stop, and I just sat and watched him.

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Speaker 2: Was the watching the acause I'm kind of a cook.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it actually I liked it. I like watching.

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Speaker 2: I would be in that corner. You wuld be in

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that corner.

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Speaker 3: Watching And we talked about potentially like exploring that fetish

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when we got home.

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Speaker 1: But things are different in Europe, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I got home to America and it was like people

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we know, it was just like that fantasy.

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Speaker 2: Was called the European mindset.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: Since we're on the topic of male escorts and sex

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and all that kind of stuff, is penis is important

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to you.

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Speaker 4: Not really Like I really like a guy who's really

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good with his hands in his mouth because I need

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a lot of like direct clatoral stimulation to come. I

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can't really come just from like gentration. So I'm like, yeah,

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it feels good. You know. If you're on the smaller side,

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we're just gonna do a lot more doggy, you know

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what I mean. Like if they're too big, that's more

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of a problem because then it like actually hurts, you know.

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But like I don't know, I love a little I

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love a boyfriend dick. I love like a a good sign.

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I love a good medium boyfriend dick. What size is

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like a good I'll take anything from like four and

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a half to seven.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I've got a big window where I'm like, all right,

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that's good. We can work with that.

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Speaker 1: Four and a half is a boyfriend dick for you.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's like on the smaller it's definitely

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on the smaller end of boyfriend dick.

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Speaker 2: But I'm like, we can work with it.

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Speaker 4: I had a boyfriend for a little bit who was

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rocking a four and a half, but he bro would

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go downtown until I came, and then he would go

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to Poundtown and I was like, you know what, well,

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mind whine complain.

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Speaker 1: Man tries harder.

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Speaker 4: Yeah they do, they'd be trying harder. And you know what,

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I love a man who tries. Guys with really big dicks,

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they sometimes are like I got it all man, Like

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you're lucky to be here, and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, no, you're lucky to be here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I dated once.

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Speaker 3: I once dated a guy who was really good looking

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and had a really big dick. And he was the

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most boring atsufferable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, was the worst. Yes.

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Speaker 3: And then he told me that he was going on

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a surf trip with his buddies, but he actually went

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on the show Temptation Island.

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Speaker 4: He so, for real, did you find out like when

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you turned on the show.

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Speaker 3: No?

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00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 1: He finally like admitted it to me when he got back.

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Speaker 3: What Yeah, he was like, so I gotta tell you

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because it's gonna like you're gonna find out anyways, I

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wasn't on a surf trip with my buddies.

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Speaker 1: I went on the show Temptation Island. I was like,

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are you fucking kids?

1258
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Speaker 2: Did you break up with him over that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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00:56:29,559 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 2: Okay, did you watch the episode?

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00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:31,079
Speaker 4: So though?

1262
00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 2: When then?

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00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got eliminated, like on the very first one.

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No way. Yeah, so he.

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Speaker 2: Did all that and then he got the boot anywhere.

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00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he came back and admitted it to me

1267
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,519
and tried to make it up to me because.

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Speaker 1: He got eliminated. Maybe he thought he was gonna win

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and he was like that, I don't.

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Speaker 2: He was like, then I'll be with a different girl

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or something.

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Speaker 1: His name was Ryan something I can't Ryan. I think

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it was the very first I could find out who

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it was.

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Speaker 3: It was the very I think it was the very

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00:56:57,159 --> 00:56:59,199
first episode of Temptation Island when at first.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have so many things to google when I leave.

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00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,599
Speaker 1: You figure you gotta go a look because yeah.

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Speaker 2: That is so funny. That is so funny.

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Speaker 1: Dumb thing to lie about, so goofy, that's stupid. Anyways,

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all right, well, thank you so much for coming on.

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Speaker 3: I have a separate little segment that we're gonna do

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some questions from my Patreon members and a few other

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other more insightful questions. But can you let everybody know

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for joining us. I'll see

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you on the next one.