Speaker 1: I'm a scientist. My job with you and others is
to say, here's what they're telling you, and here's what
the science is. And so that's my job is to
provide the science, the facts of the data that dispute
this notion of a man made climate crisis. And again
in my first book, in Give Being in Facts, we've
dispelled this notion of a climate crisis quite succinctly. And
now we've actually gone beyond that. There is no client
crisis to what's actually happening is hugely beneficial. We're benefiting
from it. You're listening to Carrie.
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Speaker 3: And welcome. You are listening to the Financial Survival Network.
I'm your host, Kerrie Lutz. Well, after you hear this show,
I think you'll be thinking about CO two a little
bit differently than you might be already. And the reason
why is because we have Gregory Wrightstone on with us.
He is heads up an organization called the CO two Coalition,
and it's not exactly what you think, Gregory, welcome back
to the show. So do we have a looming CO
two crisis?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do. Actually, we have an ongoing CO two crisis,
and that's a crisis of too little carbon dioxide or
CO two in the atmosphere. We're actually at historically low
levels of CO atospheric CO two. We're at a little
over four hundred parts per million. The average throughout our
history was twenty six hundred parts per million, so the
average and life blossomed was six have times what it
is today. We're solving that problem of this climate shortage
in the atmosphere by burning fossil fuels and adding CO
two to the atmosphere. So my latest book, the title
is a Very Convenient Warming, and the subtitle will gave
it away. The subtitle is how modest warming and more
CO two are benefiting humanity. That's right, More CO two
and warmth are actually very doing, very very good things
for our ecosystems and for the human condition, and we
can celebrate that and just completely opposite of what your
viewers are being told every single day.
Speaker 3: All right, So what are the benefits of the elevated
levels of CO two.
Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of revolve A lot of it
revolves around vegetation. And the key point here is obviously
crops that we're growing. Agriculture is vegetation that we consume
and eat, and this increase in CO two we're doing
wonderful things for the farmers for agriculture productivity. If we
look over the last sixty years, and I captured this
in my book, I look at the top eight crops
in the world in terms of tunnings produced, and all
of those crops and nearly every other crop are breaking
production records year after year after year, and it's credited
to primarily it's increase of carbon dioxide. I know middle
school wor you were back in sixth grade or seventh grade,
your teacher had you had a little cup with soil
in and you might have put a bean in there
and put it on the windows cell. And in that
class you learned about photosynthesis and you learned, along with
your viewers, what do we need for photosynthesis and plant growth?
It's sunlight, water, and CO two. And the more CO
two the better and that's what we're seeing is this
tremendous response from crops worldwide, from the coldest nations to
the hottest nations like India, responding to more carbon dioxide.
The other good thing about carbon dioxide, with this increasing
amounts of CO two, it increases the drought resistivity of plants.
Plants and crops resist drought because they don't use it,
use or need as much water because of the increases
in the CO two. They're not if it's it's not
really inhaling your next haaling, but if you get kind
of think of it that way, it's this it's called
transpiration process where they bring in carbon dioxide through their
pores in their leaves. They're called stomata for the scientists,
and these pores in their leaves they bring then bring
in CO two combines with sunlight and water. The plants grow,
creates mass and the more CO two the better. And
so what we see here there are other things that
are benefiting in addition to CO two and its drought
resistance and how it's turbocharging plant growth. The warming effect.
We are in a warming trend. We just are. It's
been warming though for more than three hundred years. And again,
this warming trend started long before mister Ford rolled the
first model T off of the assembly line, long before
we started driving subs. So we had two hundred and
fifty years of natural warming. But now that we're being
told it's all the warming we're seeings driven by carbon dioxide.
And I'll dispute that strongly because those see natural forces
that were driving temperatures up and down over really since
the dawn of time. Those natural forces have not stopped.
There's still in existence today. And this warming that we're
seeing thankfully coming up out of the death dealing cold
of the Little Ice Age. Several hundred years ago, we
were in what was some of the coldest were some
of the coldest temperatures of the last ten thousand years.
And so this warming we're seeing, I've again to capture
it in my book, A very Convenient Warming. I've got
a chart showing a length of growing season in the
continentity United States. We find that in the continentality United States,
growing seasons have lengthened by more than two weeks. Think
about that. That's a good thing. And the lasening bone
season is killing frosts and earlier in the spring arrived
later in the follshy and more plantings. And if you're
a fruit, if you own a fruit orchard, what do
you fear the most? Late spring killing frosts because of
this warming, we're seeing much lesser than And then the
third thing to this driving plant growth or the use
of nitrogen fertilizer, which the climate industrial complex wants to
ban entirely because of this unfounded fear of nitrous ox
that's warming the planet to unprecedented heights.
Speaker 3: All right, So you know, I was always under the
impression that the amount of forest in the US were
diminishing and that was bad because it's not producing enough
no no carb dioxide. But that's not true, right.
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely not true. We can document that for uts
are expanding throughout the world. What we are experiencing is
because of this quest for clean renewable energy from wind
turbines and solar farms, they're cutting down with you're forests
in the along the East coast to turn them into
wood pellets to ship the United Kingdom that they will
burn and call a renewable biofuel. Because of course those
mature trees they cut down, you know, going to be decades,
might be one hundred years, but they'll come back. It's renewable.
So they're cutting down our forest to ship to burn
up in the Drax electricity generation plant in the United Kingdom.
They're they're cutting down mature forests uh paving over grasslands
and farmlands to put up solar powered industrial facilities. And
don't you dare call them farms. They're not. They're not
solar farms. They're not uh wind of farms. Their industrial scale,
environmentally catastrophic u P projects that are likely harmful to
whales and sea life when they're done offshore, definitely harmful
to wildlife and animals, birds, if you will, when they're
on shore and they're they're covering up in habitat that
could be used falling and endangered species. And so what
they're doing is they're telling us there's this uh one
of the one of the claims is there's this ongoing
sixth Great extinction that we've never seen. Extinctions are increasing
by huge event number or just just the opposite is
the case. Extinctions are declining. But the one thing that
was a UN report that came out, the one thing
the UN got correct in this extinction report they published
here last year they said the greatest threat to intend
dangered species is loss of habitat. I agree with that.
They're entirely correct. What's their solution to serve the climate
change crisis. That's not happening, by the way, it's destroy
the habitat, destroy habitat. That the endangered species that they
hear about. It's just crazy. We have to protect our
endangered species. Oh, by the way, well, we just have
to pave over these thousands of square miles to put
up solar industrial facilities. Oh, we just have to cut
down the forests. But the big story here is the
earth itself is not experiencing deforestation. We're experiencing reforestation. The
forested and in timber area in the United States has
hugely increased. I just looked at my ex home state.
I'm living now in the Free State of Florida, by
the way, but my ex where I moved from, Pennsylvania.
I looked at the standing timber forested area in the
United States. Pennsylvania, excuse me, has increased five point two
times since nineteen fifty three. That was a published report
that just came out. Five times more than five times.
The amount of forests in Pennsylvania and we see this
reflective throughout the United States, India, a lot of the
developing world. We're seeing this increase in the forest and
standing timber. We should celebrate that, all.
Speaker 3: Right, But what about the rainforest? Man, they're being deforested
and all these bad things are happening. You know, shouldn't
you be scared to death of that?
Speaker 1: Now that's another fallacy again they're talking ours. Is some
of the Amazon rainforests being cut down? Yeah, not a
whole lot in the big scheme of things, and it
grows back extremely quickly if they turn it over into
crops or grassland for raising cattle. Of course they're not
going to cattle, will keep that crop. But the fact
of the matter is the patentel which is part of
the Amazon rainforest is thriving and prospering. And they're also
they're talking about the other rainforests around the world, like Indonesia,
they're cutting down in danger species habitats like for the
Orangu attack, and they're cutting the forest down and putting
up monoculture palm trees for buying a fuel. And so again,
once again, I guess the story that they believe is
you have in order to save the environment. We need
to destroy the environment, I.
Speaker 3: Say, Vietnam in order to save the village, we got
to kill it right.
Speaker 1: Now, you're onto that's now, yeah, now you've got it correct.
Speaker 3: But what about food? Like we got to be eating
bugs because the or you know, dangerous to our continued existence,
Like you know, a t bone steak is going to
be on the endangered species list the way we're going now.
And they view you, the elites, as useless eaters, all right.
Speaker 1: They are. And I'm you know, I've got a large
carbon footprint and I'm proud of it. The larger the better,
I say. Because we've been an unofficial motto here at
the CO two Coalition. Our motto that we go by
is we love CO two when so should you because
of the many benefits that we're saying from again modest
warming and more CEO two. It's it's a hugely beneficial
result that we're saying from both warming and more so two.
So so life is good and getting better. That's that's
the theme of my new book.
Speaker 3: They don't any hear that, No, no, So I got
one for you. So all these climate change people who
are up in arms and want to all stop driving
their SUVs, they're in there their private jets, going all
over the world to conferences. So they don't even know
that they're actually helping the climate by burning up all
that oxygen, creating CO two exactly.
Speaker 1: And I think they know. I think they know just well,
they don't know about the benefits of CO two. I
suspect very few of these blowhards, like Al Gore or
John Kerry or Griffa Thunberg, I don't It's quite possible
they don't really realize how much of a benefit they're
getting by increasing CO two. All they why are they
doing this? It's it's really I get asked that all
the time, and you know, I don't know. You're carry
You're just as qualified, and everyone watching this right now
is just as qualified as I am to say why
they're doing it. I'm a scientist. My job with you
and others is to say, here's what they're telling you,
and here's what the science is. And so that's my
job is to provide the science, the facts of the data,
the dispute this notion of a man made climate crisis.
And again in my first book and KEI being in facts,
we've dispelled this notion of a climate crisis quite succinctly,
and now we've actually gone beyond that. There is no
client crisis to what's actually happening is hugely beneficial. We're
benefiting from it, all right.
Speaker 3: So you're not making any friends out there. And I
should have mentioned Greg that you are a geologist, and
you know you've got a scientific background here, so you're
not just speaking from the cuff. Here is all science based.
Speaker 1: It is. And the CO two coalition that I lead,
i'm executive director there. We have nearly two hundred of
the top experts and scientists in the world, people like
doctor Patrick Moore, who was a founder of Greenpeace, who
I would recommend getting on this show with you. He's
a wonder he's a wonderful interview, really fascinating, but a
founder of Greenpeace, and he sits on our board. Another
board member is John Klausser. He was the twenty twenty
two Nobel Laureate in physics. It's hard to call him
a science deni er with a Nobel Laureate in physics,
but they do. Or or doctor Rube William Happer, Emeritus
Professor of Physics and Princeton, and these are top scientists,
top physicists in the world, we have a number. What
we do is take a look at the actual the
data and the science behind disputing what this is. And
a lot of these reports that we write are pretty
unreadable for the main person, but we take them and
synthesize them into a readable document and that you can
get a lot of this information at CO two Coalition
dot org. CO two Coalition dot org for example World
War Right now on a number of papers when we're
finishing up is Arkansas and Climate, and it's fascinating what
we find is Arkansas in particular is kind of ground
zero for it. But that whole area there's a beouting
eleven or twelve state area where temperatures have actually been
declining for the last several decades. They're not increasing, they're declining.
They keep that very quiet, and so we'll be publishing
our Arkansas Report. Those in the Midwest, I want to
learn more about what's happening in the Midwest, go to
CO two Coalition dot org and just search for Midwest
and come up with our Midwest Report. To find out
that life is good in America's bread basket and getting
better was the subtitle. The most recent report was Wyoming,
where the governor there is promoting this carbon capture. He's
teamed up with these other Republican governors of the North,
Christy Nome and Doug Bergham to decarbonize the West. We're
going to decarbonize the West. We're going to spend billions
of dollars to capture CO two from our coal fired
power plants and then pump it underground. But the dirty
little secret is if you do this carbon capture on
coal fired power plants, the plants it takes almost twenty
five percent of their energy output to do the carbon capture.
So now you've got to do where where's that energy
going to come from. It's crazy to be taking a
beneficial molecule out of the atmosphere using so much electricity
and energy.
Speaker 3: That's amazing, amazing. It's like a case of like everything
you know is wrong, right.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep. It's if they do if what they're proposing
actually comes to pass. With a recent study by doctor
linzen Happer, Steve Coonan, these are all top physicists, and
in it they conclude that the proposals of lowering CO
two eliminating nitrogen fertilizer blocking the sunlight with geoengineering, all
of these will lead to mass to crop failure and
probably starvation and probably the deaths of millions of people,
all in the name of solving a non existent climate crisis.
So no, we're pushing back. I won't stand for it.
And we have these Republicans that think they're doing the
right thing. They say, oh, can't we don't want to
spend trillions of dollars. No, no, we just want to
spend eight hundred and fifty billion, not trillions. I say no,
I say not eight hundred and fifty billion, not eight
hundred and fifty thousand, Not eight dollars and fifty cents,
not one red cent of our tax money should be
spent to solve what is obviously a non existent climate crisis.
It ain't happening, but it's not going to happen, and
we should rejoice in what we're saying, because man, life
is good in getting better.
Speaker 3: But good New York City is going to be underwater
in Miami Beach, you know, Florida is just going to
be all underwater because the ice caps melting, because Antarctica
is melting, and it's just going to cover everything. Right,
I mean, isn't that you gry?
Speaker 1: That's what they're telling you. Let's explore that a little bit.
Number one, you can melt the entire Polar ice cap,
northern Polar ice cap, and it would scarcely affects sea level.
And the reason is that ice cap is floating on water.
Think about the Titanic and the iceberg. Ninety percent of
that icebergs underwater. As you can do that experiment at home.
Put a jar of water, put some ice cubes in it,
mark the level, and when those ice cubes melt, the
water level remains the same. It's the same with the oceans,
and Antarctic is actually gaining ice, as is Greenland is
gaining ice. And the other thing they talk about are
these at risk island nations like two Valu and the Maldives.
If we if I look at the Maldives is in
the Indian Ocean, it's a whole series of these corala
calls in islands. They're the premiere. The way the president
of the malde is standing there with his handout wanting
climate reparations. I can't blame them, but they're talking about
giving him billions of dollars for climate reparations because they're
going to be underwater in a few decades. Well, guess what.
Let's look at that the Maldives fifteen thousand years ago
were just above sea level, just as they are today.
In that fifteen thousand years, sea level has risen four
hundred feet. Why are therese islands not under four hundred
feet of water? Question question? And I've got a good answer.
It's a number of things going into this. Primarily number one.
As sea level rise, as the coral grows with it.
That's pretty easy to understand. But how does the island
itself grow above sea level. It's a process known as accretion.
It's a geologic process where the waves break off coral
and sand and these as storms come in, they wash
the sand and the gravels up onto the island and
then the critters on the island distribute it around the island.
And that's what we call accretion. And actually the Malbeves
and many of the islands around the world that more
islands are growing than are shwinking. So it's completely again,
completely the opposite of what you're being told. And it's
this accretionary process of these islands around the world. Otherwise
all these islands would have been completely underwater thousands and
thousands of years ago.
Speaker 3: Well, I find it interesting that a lot of what
they attribute to climate change is really erosion, right Like
I see it like in Montauk house was built in
the late seventeen hundreds and it was like four hundred
feet from the water, and now it's like one hundred
feet and eventually it'll be gone. And then I see
it like Cape Cod all of these buildings kind of
the house is built on the bluffs. A lot of
them are too close to the water. And you know,
the erosion of that is what it's causing it. But
that isn't climate change.
Speaker 1: No, it's a geologic Again, I'm a geologist, so I've
studied these things. I've gone. These are barriers. All along
the eastern coast, we have a series of what are
called barrier islands, and these barrier islands move. Their erosion
takes place either in the north or south of the island,
depending which way the water currents are going, and then
there's a cretion that occurs on the other end of
the island. So these things are over hundreds of years
and some thousands of years. These barrier islands are moving
and moving and moving, and what was once near the
water is now in some cases are inland because the
sands accreted the creationary process and it's eroding at the
other end of the island. And we see this as
a natural process. So you I think almost to have
a gevid. If you're going to buy a property near
the near the shore, you should probably have a geologist
tell you, well, probably should You probably don't want to
build the area you're in an erosionary area, and.
Speaker 3: The flood zone too, So we got these storm surges
everything else. I mean, you look at the Barrier islands
and the East Coast, and those are always the ones
that get slammed by the storms and the ones that
are eroding away now. Interestingly, though, if you look at
an aerial picture of Miami Beach, the shoreline is almost
identical to what it was sixty eighty years ago, right right, Well.
Speaker 1: The Holy East Coast and Miami are subsiding a little bit,
and in many areas the subsidence is more than what
the sea level rises, so it's called relative sea level rise.
Because of the tectonic geologic tectonic of the East Coast
of the United States, and it's bears maybe six or
seven inches per century that it might be subsiding, and
sea level is increasing six or seven inches. So the
net result of that would be thirteen or fourteen inches
of apparent sea level. Wise, only half of it truly
is sea level. And that's because of the glaciers that
covered North America. If you can imagine a waterbed, those
glaciers actually pushed. There was so much weight, with thousands
of feet a waste, it actually pushed the mantle of
the earth down across all of North America. And as
they retreated, it's now rising back up. Just imagine getting
into a waterbed, and of course it sinks down where
you're where you're in it, and then when you get out,
the outer edges, you know, the outer edges when you're
in that waterbed rise up a little bit. When you
come out, they fall. And that's what we're seeing here
in the United States and around the world, tectonic release
of the of the margins of the continents. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, one thing I will say, they've gotten smarter about
the shorelines doing all these plantings, which which helps stop
the erosion or at least slow it down considerably. You know,
but again much ado about nothing. Hey, how do we
find out more about about your organization? About the CO
two Coalition. I know there's this.
Speaker 1: Luck out here. Well, you've got my new book, A
Very Convenient Warming, published just recently, so it's been very successful,
A very Convenient Warming, my first book, Inconvenient Facts. We
just had the tenth printing that we just got done
here last week, and so it's been highly successful. Again
that's Inconvenient Facts, which was published a few years ago
but is still pretty high on the bestseller charts on
Amazon right now. So Inconvenient Facts and A Very Convenient Warming.
To learn more about this information, go to CO two
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often the case. And the problem is when those people
start passing policies that wind up costing us money and
really doing more m and not accomplishing what they're supposed to.
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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you again and thanks for coming out.
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