1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,759 Speaker 1: I'm a scientist. My job with you and others is 2 00:00:03,799 --> 00:00:06,679 to say, here's what they're telling you, and here's what 3 00:00:06,759 --> 00:00:09,320 the science is. And so that's my job is to 4 00:00:09,359 --> 00:00:12,960 provide the science, the facts of the data that dispute 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,239 this notion of a man made climate crisis. And again 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,120 in my first book, in Give Being in Facts, we've 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:25,440 dispelled this notion of a climate crisis quite succinctly. And 8 00:00:25,559 --> 00:00:28,359 now we've actually gone beyond that. There is no client 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:33,399 crisis to what's actually happening is hugely beneficial. We're benefiting 10 00:00:33,439 --> 00:00:35,240 from it. You're listening to Carrie. 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,399 Speaker 2: Let'sa's Financial Survival Network where you get valuable information you 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,840 just can't find anywhere else to thrive in today's trying times. 13 00:00:44,119 --> 00:00:48,079 You need the Financial Survival Network now more than ever. 14 00:00:48,679 --> 00:00:52,159 Go to Financial Survivalnetwork dot com and get your free 15 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:58,000 newsletter and gift. Financial Survival Network now more than ever. 16 00:01:01,439 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: And welcome. You are listening to the Financial Survival Network. 17 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,319 I'm your host, Kerrie Lutz. Well, after you hear this show, 18 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,040 I think you'll be thinking about CO two a little 19 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,439 bit differently than you might be already. And the reason 20 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,159 why is because we have Gregory Wrightstone on with us. 21 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,319 He is heads up an organization called the CO two Coalition, 22 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,920 and it's not exactly what you think, Gregory, welcome back 23 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,400 to the show. So do we have a looming CO 24 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:32,480 two crisis? 25 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:37,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, we do. Actually, we have an ongoing CO two crisis, 26 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,480 and that's a crisis of too little carbon dioxide or 27 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,280 CO two in the atmosphere. We're actually at historically low 28 00:01:46,439 --> 00:01:50,159 levels of CO atospheric CO two. We're at a little 29 00:01:50,159 --> 00:01:54,040 over four hundred parts per million. The average throughout our 30 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,239 history was twenty six hundred parts per million, so the 31 00:01:57,319 --> 00:02:00,879 average and life blossomed was six have times what it 32 00:02:00,959 --> 00:02:07,359 is today. We're solving that problem of this climate shortage 33 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,879 in the atmosphere by burning fossil fuels and adding CO 34 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,840 two to the atmosphere. So my latest book, the title 35 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,199 is a Very Convenient Warming, and the subtitle will gave 36 00:02:18,199 --> 00:02:21,439 it away. The subtitle is how modest warming and more 37 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,639 CO two are benefiting humanity. That's right, More CO two 38 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,719 and warmth are actually very doing, very very good things 39 00:02:29,759 --> 00:02:33,039 for our ecosystems and for the human condition, and we 40 00:02:33,159 --> 00:02:36,520 can celebrate that and just completely opposite of what your 41 00:02:36,599 --> 00:02:40,319 viewers are being told every single day. 42 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,479 Speaker 3: All right, So what are the benefits of the elevated 43 00:02:44,599 --> 00:02:45,840 levels of CO two. 44 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of revolve A lot of it 45 00:02:48,199 --> 00:02:53,800 revolves around vegetation. And the key point here is obviously 46 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,039 crops that we're growing. Agriculture is vegetation that we consume 47 00:02:58,439 --> 00:03:01,800 and eat, and this increase in CO two we're doing 48 00:03:02,439 --> 00:03:08,879 wonderful things for the farmers for agriculture productivity. If we 49 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,240 look over the last sixty years, and I captured this 50 00:03:12,319 --> 00:03:14,280 in my book, I look at the top eight crops 51 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,360 in the world in terms of tunnings produced, and all 52 00:03:17,439 --> 00:03:21,520 of those crops and nearly every other crop are breaking 53 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:27,400 production records year after year after year, and it's credited 54 00:03:27,759 --> 00:03:33,240 to primarily it's increase of carbon dioxide. I know middle 55 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,719 school wor you were back in sixth grade or seventh grade, 56 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,120 your teacher had you had a little cup with soil 57 00:03:41,199 --> 00:03:42,719 in and you might have put a bean in there 58 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:44,759 and put it on the windows cell. And in that 59 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,400 class you learned about photosynthesis and you learned, along with 60 00:03:49,479 --> 00:03:53,159 your viewers, what do we need for photosynthesis and plant growth? 61 00:03:53,199 --> 00:03:57,280 It's sunlight, water, and CO two. And the more CO 62 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,240 two the better and that's what we're seeing is this 63 00:04:00,919 --> 00:04:05,080 tremendous response from crops worldwide, from the coldest nations to 64 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,960 the hottest nations like India, responding to more carbon dioxide. 65 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,280 The other good thing about carbon dioxide, with this increasing 66 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,839 amounts of CO two, it increases the drought resistivity of plants. 67 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,920 Plants and crops resist drought because they don't use it, 68 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:29,160 use or need as much water because of the increases 69 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,720 in the CO two. They're not if it's it's not 70 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,160 really inhaling your next haaling, but if you get kind 71 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,279 of think of it that way, it's this it's called 72 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:41,480 transpiration process where they bring in carbon dioxide through their 73 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,360 pores in their leaves. They're called stomata for the scientists, 74 00:04:45,879 --> 00:04:48,399 and these pores in their leaves they bring then bring 75 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:54,079 in CO two combines with sunlight and water. The plants grow, 76 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,560 creates mass and the more CO two the better. And 77 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,199 so what we see here there are other things that 78 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,800 are benefiting in addition to CO two and its drought 79 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:09,240 resistance and how it's turbocharging plant growth. The warming effect. 80 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,120 We are in a warming trend. We just are. It's 81 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,560 been warming though for more than three hundred years. And again, 82 00:05:17,879 --> 00:05:22,560 this warming trend started long before mister Ford rolled the 83 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,240 first model T off of the assembly line, long before 84 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,839 we started driving subs. So we had two hundred and 85 00:05:29,879 --> 00:05:33,560 fifty years of natural warming. But now that we're being 86 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,639 told it's all the warming we're seeings driven by carbon dioxide. 87 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:41,399 And I'll dispute that strongly because those see natural forces 88 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,920 that were driving temperatures up and down over really since 89 00:05:45,959 --> 00:05:49,480 the dawn of time. Those natural forces have not stopped. 90 00:05:49,519 --> 00:05:52,680 There's still in existence today. And this warming that we're 91 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,560 seeing thankfully coming up out of the death dealing cold 92 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,199 of the Little Ice Age. Several hundred years ago, we 93 00:06:00,199 --> 00:06:03,600 were in what was some of the coldest were some 94 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,639 of the coldest temperatures of the last ten thousand years. 95 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,240 And so this warming we're seeing, I've again to capture 96 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,519 it in my book, A very Convenient Warming. I've got 97 00:06:12,519 --> 00:06:15,839 a chart showing a length of growing season in the 98 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,639 continentity United States. We find that in the continentality United States, 99 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,120 growing seasons have lengthened by more than two weeks. Think 100 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:28,160 about that. That's a good thing. And the lasening bone 101 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,079 season is killing frosts and earlier in the spring arrived 102 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,360 later in the follshy and more plantings. And if you're 103 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,279 a fruit, if you own a fruit orchard, what do 104 00:06:38,319 --> 00:06:42,079 you fear the most? Late spring killing frosts because of 105 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,639 this warming, we're seeing much lesser than And then the 106 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,439 third thing to this driving plant growth or the use 107 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:54,279 of nitrogen fertilizer, which the climate industrial complex wants to 108 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:59,839 ban entirely because of this unfounded fear of nitrous ox 109 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,360 that's warming the planet to unprecedented heights. 110 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,199 Speaker 3: All right, So you know, I was always under the 111 00:07:08,199 --> 00:07:11,199 impression that the amount of forest in the US were 112 00:07:11,319 --> 00:07:15,319 diminishing and that was bad because it's not producing enough 113 00:07:15,519 --> 00:07:18,560 no no carb dioxide. But that's not true, right. 114 00:07:18,639 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely not true. We can document that for uts 115 00:07:23,199 --> 00:07:27,399 are expanding throughout the world. What we are experiencing is 116 00:07:27,439 --> 00:07:31,920 because of this quest for clean renewable energy from wind 117 00:07:31,959 --> 00:07:35,759 turbines and solar farms, they're cutting down with you're forests 118 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,480 in the along the East coast to turn them into 119 00:07:39,519 --> 00:07:43,000 wood pellets to ship the United Kingdom that they will 120 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,600 burn and call a renewable biofuel. Because of course those 121 00:07:47,639 --> 00:07:52,079 mature trees they cut down, you know, going to be decades, 122 00:07:52,199 --> 00:07:55,160 might be one hundred years, but they'll come back. It's renewable. 123 00:07:55,519 --> 00:07:58,480 So they're cutting down our forest to ship to burn 124 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,839 up in the Drax electricity generation plant in the United Kingdom. 125 00:08:02,959 --> 00:08:08,319 They're they're cutting down mature forests uh paving over grasslands 126 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:13,000 and farmlands to put up solar powered industrial facilities. And 127 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,600 don't you dare call them farms. They're not. They're not 128 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:21,800 solar farms. They're not uh wind of farms. Their industrial scale, 129 00:08:22,399 --> 00:08:28,560 environmentally catastrophic u P projects that are likely harmful to 130 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:34,320 whales and sea life when they're done offshore, definitely harmful 131 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:39,799 to wildlife and animals, birds, if you will, when they're 132 00:08:39,799 --> 00:08:43,919 on shore and they're they're covering up in habitat that 133 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,559 could be used falling and endangered species. And so what 134 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,039 they're doing is they're telling us there's this uh one 135 00:08:51,039 --> 00:08:53,159 of the one of the claims is there's this ongoing 136 00:08:53,279 --> 00:08:57,919 sixth Great extinction that we've never seen. Extinctions are increasing 137 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,480 by huge event number or just just the opposite is 138 00:09:02,519 --> 00:09:05,720 the case. Extinctions are declining. But the one thing that 139 00:09:05,799 --> 00:09:07,480 was a UN report that came out, the one thing 140 00:09:07,519 --> 00:09:11,360 the UN got correct in this extinction report they published 141 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,240 here last year they said the greatest threat to intend 142 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,720 dangered species is loss of habitat. I agree with that. 143 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,799 They're entirely correct. What's their solution to serve the climate 144 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,559 change crisis. That's not happening, by the way, it's destroy 145 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:33,159 the habitat, destroy habitat. That the endangered species that they 146 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,440 hear about. It's just crazy. We have to protect our 147 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,320 endangered species. Oh, by the way, well, we just have 148 00:09:40,399 --> 00:09:44,399 to pave over these thousands of square miles to put 149 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,879 up solar industrial facilities. Oh, we just have to cut 150 00:09:47,919 --> 00:09:52,159 down the forests. But the big story here is the 151 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:58,879 earth itself is not experiencing deforestation. We're experiencing reforestation. The 152 00:09:59,159 --> 00:10:02,080 forested and in timber area in the United States has 153 00:10:02,639 --> 00:10:05,759 hugely increased. I just looked at my ex home state. 154 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,240 I'm living now in the Free State of Florida, by 155 00:10:08,279 --> 00:10:11,440 the way, but my ex where I moved from, Pennsylvania. 156 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,679 I looked at the standing timber forested area in the 157 00:10:15,799 --> 00:10:20,559 United States. Pennsylvania, excuse me, has increased five point two 158 00:10:20,799 --> 00:10:24,759 times since nineteen fifty three. That was a published report 159 00:10:24,799 --> 00:10:27,320 that just came out. Five times more than five times. 160 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,759 The amount of forests in Pennsylvania and we see this 161 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,159 reflective throughout the United States, India, a lot of the 162 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,759 developing world. We're seeing this increase in the forest and 163 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,399 standing timber. We should celebrate that, all. 164 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,039 Speaker 3: Right, But what about the rainforest? Man, they're being deforested 165 00:10:45,159 --> 00:10:48,559 and all these bad things are happening. You know, shouldn't 166 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,120 you be scared to death of that? 167 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:55,759 Speaker 1: Now that's another fallacy again they're talking ours. Is some 168 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,720 of the Amazon rainforests being cut down? Yeah, not a 169 00:10:59,759 --> 00:11:02,080 whole lot in the big scheme of things, and it 170 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,840 grows back extremely quickly if they turn it over into 171 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,960 crops or grassland for raising cattle. Of course they're not 172 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,360 going to cattle, will keep that crop. But the fact 173 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,759 of the matter is the patentel which is part of 174 00:11:14,759 --> 00:11:19,320 the Amazon rainforest is thriving and prospering. And they're also 175 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,480 they're talking about the other rainforests around the world, like Indonesia, 176 00:11:22,879 --> 00:11:26,279 they're cutting down in danger species habitats like for the 177 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,639 Orangu attack, and they're cutting the forest down and putting 178 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:36,320 up monoculture palm trees for buying a fuel. And so again, 179 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,240 once again, I guess the story that they believe is 180 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,679 you have in order to save the environment. We need 181 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,320 to destroy the environment, I. 182 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 3: Say, Vietnam in order to save the village, we got 183 00:11:47,759 --> 00:11:48,799 to kill it right. 184 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: Now, you're onto that's now, yeah, now you've got it correct. 185 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: But what about food? Like we got to be eating 186 00:11:57,399 --> 00:12:04,399 bugs because the or you know, dangerous to our continued existence, 187 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,080 Like you know, a t bone steak is going to 188 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,399 be on the endangered species list the way we're going now. 189 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,840 And they view you, the elites, as useless eaters, all right. 190 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: They are. And I'm you know, I've got a large 191 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,799 carbon footprint and I'm proud of it. The larger the better, 192 00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:25,080 I say. Because we've been an unofficial motto here at 193 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,639 the CO two Coalition. Our motto that we go by 194 00:12:28,799 --> 00:12:32,559 is we love CO two when so should you because 195 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,600 of the many benefits that we're saying from again modest 196 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,159 warming and more CEO two. It's it's a hugely beneficial 197 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:44,360 result that we're saying from both warming and more so two. 198 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,519 So so life is good and getting better. That's that's 199 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:49,799 the theme of my new book. 200 00:12:49,919 --> 00:12:53,759 Speaker 3: They don't any hear that, No, no, So I got 201 00:12:53,759 --> 00:12:58,039 one for you. So all these climate change people who 202 00:12:58,039 --> 00:13:01,399 are up in arms and want to all stop driving 203 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,840 their SUVs, they're in there their private jets, going all 204 00:13:06,159 --> 00:13:09,360 over the world to conferences. So they don't even know 205 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,039 that they're actually helping the climate by burning up all 206 00:13:13,039 --> 00:13:16,039 that oxygen, creating CO two exactly. 207 00:13:17,039 --> 00:13:20,639 Speaker 1: And I think they know. I think they know just well, 208 00:13:20,759 --> 00:13:22,799 they don't know about the benefits of CO two. I 209 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,120 suspect very few of these blowhards, like Al Gore or 210 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,519 John Kerry or Griffa Thunberg, I don't It's quite possible 211 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:34,759 they don't really realize how much of a benefit they're 212 00:13:34,759 --> 00:13:39,480 getting by increasing CO two. All they why are they 213 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:43,000 doing this? It's it's really I get asked that all 214 00:13:43,039 --> 00:13:47,440 the time, and you know, I don't know. You're carry 215 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,000 You're just as qualified, and everyone watching this right now 216 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,840 is just as qualified as I am to say why 217 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:56,360 they're doing it. I'm a scientist. My job with you 218 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,600 and others is to say, here's what they're telling you, 219 00:14:00,039 --> 00:14:02,279 and here's what the science is. And so that's my 220 00:14:02,519 --> 00:14:05,639 job is to provide the science, the facts of the data, 221 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,519 the dispute this notion of a man made climate crisis. 222 00:14:10,639 --> 00:14:13,240 And again in my first book and KEI being in facts, 223 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,440 we've dispelled this notion of a climate crisis quite succinctly, 224 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,799 and now we've actually gone beyond that. There is no 225 00:14:21,919 --> 00:14:26,639 client crisis to what's actually happening is hugely beneficial. We're 226 00:14:26,679 --> 00:14:28,279 benefiting from it, all right. 227 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,639 Speaker 3: So you're not making any friends out there. And I 228 00:14:31,639 --> 00:14:35,879 should have mentioned Greg that you are a geologist, and 229 00:14:36,519 --> 00:14:40,240 you know you've got a scientific background here, so you're 230 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:45,440 not just speaking from the cuff. Here is all science based. 231 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,759 Speaker 1: It is. And the CO two coalition that I lead, 232 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,840 i'm executive director there. We have nearly two hundred of 233 00:14:51,879 --> 00:14:54,840 the top experts and scientists in the world, people like 234 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,519 doctor Patrick Moore, who was a founder of Greenpeace, who 235 00:14:58,559 --> 00:15:01,639 I would recommend getting on this show with you. He's 236 00:15:01,679 --> 00:15:07,200 a wonder he's a wonderful interview, really fascinating, but a 237 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,639 founder of Greenpeace, and he sits on our board. Another 238 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,240 board member is John Klausser. He was the twenty twenty 239 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,039 two Nobel Laureate in physics. It's hard to call him 240 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,879 a science deni er with a Nobel Laureate in physics, 241 00:15:20,879 --> 00:15:25,279 but they do. Or or doctor Rube William Happer, Emeritus 242 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:30,120 Professor of Physics and Princeton, and these are top scientists, 243 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,159 top physicists in the world, we have a number. What 244 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,200 we do is take a look at the actual the 245 00:15:36,919 --> 00:15:41,600 data and the science behind disputing what this is. And 246 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,399 a lot of these reports that we write are pretty 247 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,519 unreadable for the main person, but we take them and 248 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,200 synthesize them into a readable document and that you can 249 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,080 get a lot of this information at CO two Coalition 250 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,799 dot org. CO two Coalition dot org for example World 251 00:15:59,799 --> 00:16:03,279 War Right now on a number of papers when we're 252 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:08,279 finishing up is Arkansas and Climate, and it's fascinating what 253 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,159 we find is Arkansas in particular is kind of ground 254 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,279 zero for it. But that whole area there's a beouting 255 00:16:13,279 --> 00:16:16,600 eleven or twelve state area where temperatures have actually been 256 00:16:16,639 --> 00:16:21,279 declining for the last several decades. They're not increasing, they're declining. 257 00:16:21,879 --> 00:16:25,000 They keep that very quiet, and so we'll be publishing 258 00:16:25,759 --> 00:16:30,240 our Arkansas Report. Those in the Midwest, I want to 259 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,759 learn more about what's happening in the Midwest, go to 260 00:16:32,799 --> 00:16:36,039 CO two Coalition dot org and just search for Midwest 261 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,720 and come up with our Midwest Report. To find out 262 00:16:38,759 --> 00:16:43,080 that life is good in America's bread basket and getting 263 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,759 better was the subtitle. The most recent report was Wyoming, 264 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:54,759 where the governor there is promoting this carbon capture. He's 265 00:16:54,799 --> 00:16:59,320 teamed up with these other Republican governors of the North, 266 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:05,039 Christy Nome and Doug Bergham to decarbonize the West. We're 267 00:17:05,039 --> 00:17:08,480 going to decarbonize the West. We're going to spend billions 268 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,359 of dollars to capture CO two from our coal fired 269 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,400 power plants and then pump it underground. But the dirty 270 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,480 little secret is if you do this carbon capture on 271 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,720 coal fired power plants, the plants it takes almost twenty 272 00:17:23,759 --> 00:17:27,640 five percent of their energy output to do the carbon capture. 273 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:30,720 So now you've got to do where where's that energy 274 00:17:30,759 --> 00:17:34,319 going to come from. It's crazy to be taking a 275 00:17:34,319 --> 00:17:39,279 beneficial molecule out of the atmosphere using so much electricity 276 00:17:39,279 --> 00:17:40,759 and energy. 277 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,799 Speaker 3: That's amazing, amazing. It's like a case of like everything 278 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,720 you know is wrong, right. 279 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: Yep, yep. It's if they do if what they're proposing 280 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,720 actually comes to pass. With a recent study by doctor 281 00:17:58,799 --> 00:18:04,319 linzen Happer, Steve Coonan, these are all top physicists, and 282 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,920 in it they conclude that the proposals of lowering CO 283 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:16,480 two eliminating nitrogen fertilizer blocking the sunlight with geoengineering, all 284 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,200 of these will lead to mass to crop failure and 285 00:18:20,319 --> 00:18:24,480 probably starvation and probably the deaths of millions of people, 286 00:18:25,319 --> 00:18:28,480 all in the name of solving a non existent climate crisis. 287 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,000 So no, we're pushing back. I won't stand for it. 288 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,839 And we have these Republicans that think they're doing the 289 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,720 right thing. They say, oh, can't we don't want to 290 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,160 spend trillions of dollars. No, no, we just want to 291 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,519 spend eight hundred and fifty billion, not trillions. I say no, 292 00:18:45,559 --> 00:18:48,720 I say not eight hundred and fifty billion, not eight 293 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,160 hundred and fifty thousand, Not eight dollars and fifty cents, 294 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,359 not one red cent of our tax money should be 295 00:18:55,400 --> 00:19:01,079 spent to solve what is obviously a non existent climate crisis. 296 00:19:01,599 --> 00:19:05,279 It ain't happening, but it's not going to happen, and 297 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,720 we should rejoice in what we're saying, because man, life 298 00:19:08,759 --> 00:19:10,200 is good in getting better. 299 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,599 Speaker 3: But good New York City is going to be underwater 300 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,880 in Miami Beach, you know, Florida is just going to 301 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:22,720 be all underwater because the ice caps melting, because Antarctica 302 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,880 is melting, and it's just going to cover everything. Right, 303 00:19:27,319 --> 00:19:28,599 I mean, isn't that you gry? 304 00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:31,599 Speaker 1: That's what they're telling you. Let's explore that a little bit. 305 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,000 Number one, you can melt the entire Polar ice cap, 306 00:19:34,079 --> 00:19:37,200 northern Polar ice cap, and it would scarcely affects sea level. 307 00:19:37,519 --> 00:19:40,680 And the reason is that ice cap is floating on water. 308 00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:43,839 Think about the Titanic and the iceberg. Ninety percent of 309 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,079 that icebergs underwater. As you can do that experiment at home. 310 00:19:47,599 --> 00:19:50,240 Put a jar of water, put some ice cubes in it, 311 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,960 mark the level, and when those ice cubes melt, the 312 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,960 water level remains the same. It's the same with the oceans, 313 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,920 and Antarctic is actually gaining ice, as is Greenland is 314 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,400 gaining ice. And the other thing they talk about are 315 00:20:05,519 --> 00:20:08,960 these at risk island nations like two Valu and the Maldives. 316 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,440 If we if I look at the Maldives is in 317 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,759 the Indian Ocean, it's a whole series of these corala 318 00:20:16,279 --> 00:20:21,960 calls in islands. They're the premiere. The way the president 319 00:20:22,079 --> 00:20:25,319 of the malde is standing there with his handout wanting 320 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,759 climate reparations. I can't blame them, but they're talking about 321 00:20:28,799 --> 00:20:31,960 giving him billions of dollars for climate reparations because they're 322 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,599 going to be underwater in a few decades. Well, guess what. 323 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:39,799 Let's look at that the Maldives fifteen thousand years ago 324 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,319 were just above sea level, just as they are today. 325 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,799 In that fifteen thousand years, sea level has risen four 326 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,680 hundred feet. Why are therese islands not under four hundred 327 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:55,799 feet of water? Question question? And I've got a good answer. 328 00:20:56,279 --> 00:21:00,119 It's a number of things going into this. Primarily number one. 329 00:21:00,559 --> 00:21:03,559 As sea level rise, as the coral grows with it. 330 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,279 That's pretty easy to understand. But how does the island 331 00:21:07,319 --> 00:21:10,480 itself grow above sea level. It's a process known as accretion. 332 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:15,240 It's a geologic process where the waves break off coral 333 00:21:15,279 --> 00:21:18,000 and sand and these as storms come in, they wash 334 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,839 the sand and the gravels up onto the island and 335 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,279 then the critters on the island distribute it around the island. 336 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,000 And that's what we call accretion. And actually the Malbeves 337 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,599 and many of the islands around the world that more 338 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,039 islands are growing than are shwinking. So it's completely again, 339 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,559 completely the opposite of what you're being told. And it's 340 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,519 this accretionary process of these islands around the world. Otherwise 341 00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:46,680 all these islands would have been completely underwater thousands and 342 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:47,880 thousands of years ago. 343 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,319 Speaker 3: Well, I find it interesting that a lot of what 344 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:57,160 they attribute to climate change is really erosion, right Like 345 00:21:57,279 --> 00:22:00,880 I see it like in Montauk house was built in 346 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,480 the late seventeen hundreds and it was like four hundred 347 00:22:04,559 --> 00:22:07,200 feet from the water, and now it's like one hundred 348 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,319 feet and eventually it'll be gone. And then I see 349 00:22:09,319 --> 00:22:12,519 it like Cape Cod all of these buildings kind of 350 00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:15,720 the house is built on the bluffs. A lot of 351 00:22:15,759 --> 00:22:19,559 them are too close to the water. And you know, 352 00:22:19,799 --> 00:22:24,640 the erosion of that is what it's causing it. But 353 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,640 that isn't climate change. 354 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: No, it's a geologic Again, I'm a geologist, so I've 355 00:22:30,039 --> 00:22:33,160 studied these things. I've gone. These are barriers. All along 356 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,039 the eastern coast, we have a series of what are 357 00:22:35,079 --> 00:22:41,000 called barrier islands, and these barrier islands move. Their erosion 358 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,559 takes place either in the north or south of the island, 359 00:22:44,559 --> 00:22:47,400 depending which way the water currents are going, and then 360 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,480 there's a cretion that occurs on the other end of 361 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,119 the island. So these things are over hundreds of years 362 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,559 and some thousands of years. These barrier islands are moving 363 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,000 and moving and moving, and what was once near the 364 00:23:02,039 --> 00:23:05,160 water is now in some cases are inland because the 365 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,200 sands accreted the creationary process and it's eroding at the 366 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,960 other end of the island. And we see this as 367 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,759 a natural process. So you I think almost to have 368 00:23:15,799 --> 00:23:18,880 a gevid. If you're going to buy a property near 369 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,119 the near the shore, you should probably have a geologist 370 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,880 tell you, well, probably should You probably don't want to 371 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,759 build the area you're in an erosionary area, and. 372 00:23:29,759 --> 00:23:32,759 Speaker 3: The flood zone too, So we got these storm surges 373 00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:36,039 everything else. I mean, you look at the Barrier islands 374 00:23:36,039 --> 00:23:38,880 and the East Coast, and those are always the ones 375 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,440 that get slammed by the storms and the ones that 376 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,119 are eroding away now. Interestingly, though, if you look at 377 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,359 an aerial picture of Miami Beach, the shoreline is almost 378 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:55,960 identical to what it was sixty eighty years ago, right right, Well. 379 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:01,599 Speaker 1: The Holy East Coast and Miami are subsiding a little bit, 380 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,240 and in many areas the subsidence is more than what 381 00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:09,319 the sea level rises, so it's called relative sea level rise. 382 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:17,119 Because of the tectonic geologic tectonic of the East Coast 383 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:22,079 of the United States, and it's bears maybe six or 384 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:27,039 seven inches per century that it might be subsiding, and 385 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,319 sea level is increasing six or seven inches. So the 386 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,559 net result of that would be thirteen or fourteen inches 387 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,839 of apparent sea level. Wise, only half of it truly 388 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,519 is sea level. And that's because of the glaciers that 389 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,680 covered North America. If you can imagine a waterbed, those 390 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,920 glaciers actually pushed. There was so much weight, with thousands 391 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,400 of feet a waste, it actually pushed the mantle of 392 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,640 the earth down across all of North America. And as 393 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,960 they retreated, it's now rising back up. Just imagine getting 394 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,279 into a waterbed, and of course it sinks down where 395 00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:04,920 you're where you're in it, and then when you get out, 396 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,799 the outer edges, you know, the outer edges when you're 397 00:25:08,839 --> 00:25:10,960 in that waterbed rise up a little bit. When you 398 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,359 come out, they fall. And that's what we're seeing here 399 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,920 in the United States and around the world, tectonic release 400 00:25:17,519 --> 00:25:21,640 of the of the margins of the continents. Yeah. 401 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,279 Speaker 3: Well, one thing I will say, they've gotten smarter about 402 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:31,200 the shorelines doing all these plantings, which which helps stop 403 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,640 the erosion or at least slow it down considerably. You know, 404 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:43,119 but again much ado about nothing. Hey, how do we 405 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,680 find out more about about your organization? About the CO 406 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,119 two Coalition. I know there's this. 407 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: Luck out here. Well, you've got my new book, A 408 00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:59,000 Very Convenient Warming, published just recently, so it's been very successful, 409 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,759 A very Convenient Warming, my first book, Inconvenient Facts. We 410 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,799 just had the tenth printing that we just got done 411 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,480 here last week, and so it's been highly successful. Again 412 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:16,160 that's Inconvenient Facts, which was published a few years ago 413 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,759 but is still pretty high on the bestseller charts on 414 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,759 Amazon right now. So Inconvenient Facts and A Very Convenient Warming. 415 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,200 To learn more about this information, go to CO two 416 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:32,240 Coalition dot org. Co two Coalition dot org. Great, and 417 00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:35,920 there's a link in the show notes to your site 418 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,440 on Financial Survival Network dot com. Please go over there, 419 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,920 sign up for your free newsletter. And it's always great 420 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:48,279 having you on, Gregory. It's fascinating how much we think 421 00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:51,119 we know at how little we actually know, which is 422 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,759 often the case. And the problem is when those people 423 00:26:53,839 --> 00:26:58,960 start passing policies that wind up costing us money and 424 00:26:59,079 --> 00:27:02,720 really doing more m and not accomplishing what they're supposed to. 425 00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:07,359 We've got a question where Gregory or myself Klatcarrie LUTs 426 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,920 dot com is the email address. 427 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 3: We'll talk to you again and thanks for coming out. 428 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to Carrie Letz's Financial Survival Network, your 429 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,240 solution to today's trying times. For the latest, go to 430 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:27,640 Financial Survivalnetwork dot com. Financial Survival Network now more than ever,