WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.879 This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast edition 2 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:05.879 of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to give 3 00:00:05.960 --> 00:00:08.240 us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:16.320 single day on your favorite podcast platform. Oh thank you, 6 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:19.679 Colorado Democratic Party. You make it so easy, the gift 7 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:23.160 that keeps on giving, except for all these laws you pass. 8 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:27.879 But this is fun. It just helps us get into 9 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:31.120 the mind of the left. Right. It's fresh. Nobody saw 10 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:33.840 this one coming. We're going to play some sound from 11 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:38.880 the Colorado State House rep from a District eleven Boulder. 12 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:43.359 Her name is Representative Karen McCormick. So before we play 13 00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:46.759 this sound, though, keep in mind a couple of things please. 14 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:50.759 She is also primary sponsor of a bill called Gender 15 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:55.399 Identity Certificate of Death that makes it a crime to 16 00:00:55.560 --> 00:01:00.840 not lie on a public record. It would force Colorado 17 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:05.560 health officials to lie on a public record and to 18 00:01:05.719 --> 00:01:08.200 say that that male laying there in front of them 19 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:12.480 on the slab, God rest his soul is actually a female. 20 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:16.599 And so we'll get into the perils of that and 21 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:20.799 why why the left would even be pursuing this when 22 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:24.040 if they had some sincere concern here. There's such an 23 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:26.760 easy other fix. But we'll get to all that. But 24 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:28.799 this sound you're gonna thoroughly enjoy if you're a pro 25 00:01:28.840 --> 00:01:32.400 life like me, Because it's a Democrat, the same one 26 00:01:32.439 --> 00:01:37.319 sponsoring this bill who's implicitly acknowledging the undeniable medical fact 27 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:40.359 that all of these kids who are killed through abortion 28 00:01:40.599 --> 00:01:43.560 are in fact kids, they are in fact living humans. 29 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:47.680 Cut one, Please, we know, even from fetal development perspective, 30 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:50.640 that sex is defined in the first trimester of pregnancy, 31 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:55.959 whereas the beginnings of the sense of gender identity start 32 00:01:56.079 --> 00:02:00.319 in the second trimester of pregnancy. So certainly often these 33 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:02.879 two things match up, but often they don't. 34 00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:06.920 Okay, Yeah, so if you've got your sense of gender 35 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:10.719 identity in this second trimester, it's just confirmation that you're 36 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:14.919 a living human, and you know, are getting this sense 37 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:16.840 that Okay, I know I got those parts there, but 38 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:20.520 I'm really not, you know, that gender. Right, So that's 39 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:23.520 her goofy theory when it comes to, oh, yeah, these 40 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:26.639 kids are deciding before they're born that they're really the 41 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:30.840 opposite sex. But she's absolutely correct, and that these are kids, 42 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:35.599 these are living humans, and so absolutely fascinating. Now, let's 43 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:39.199 get back to this bill that would require Colorado Health's 44 00:02:39.240 --> 00:02:42.599 officials to lie. What's really behind this? I mean, it's 45 00:02:42.599 --> 00:02:46.280 so goofy on its faith. Right. If somebody was to say, okay, Ryan, 46 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:49.960 now the reason I want this bill is because I 47 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:54.520 want to respect the wishes and the self identification of 48 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:57.479 the deceased. You've got to have a hurt Ryan. Well 49 00:02:57.520 --> 00:03:00.800 wait a second, isn't the answer to that? Well, then 50 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:03.240 why don't you propose a bill that would just add 51 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:07.319 a separate box and just have a separate box that 52 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:12.879 says self identification, but you keep the sex box and 53 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:16.000 it is worded sex on Colorado death certificates, you keep 54 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:20.400 the sex box, right honest. And if they and I'm 55 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:22.240 not saying we should add a separate box, but if 56 00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:25.400 they really, if that was their true motive to just 57 00:03:25.560 --> 00:03:28.960 respect the wishes of the deceased, why wouldn't the bill say, 58 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:31.919 add a separate box for self identification. 59 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:33.120 And not only that, that might be a fair starting 60 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:36.120 point for negotiations on a fair compromise that would at 61 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:41.280 least validate acknowledge the gender identity of a trans person without, 62 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:44.439 like you said, foraging over into the lying about the 63 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:45.560 scientific part of it. 64 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:48.840 But that's not what the left wants. The left of 65 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:52.599 the left wants you to be forced, under penalty of 66 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:58.000 criminal prosecution, to buy the lie. That's what the left wants. 67 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:02.199 You know. They don't want tolerance, they want obedience. You 68 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:05.120 have to buy the lie. You have to sign your 69 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:09.439 name to the lie under penalty of criminal prosecution. This 70 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:12.319 bill is such a confirmation of what the left is 71 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:16.600 really after A five five or zero five, A two 72 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:19.079 five five takes DA N five seven, seven through nine. 73 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:21.839 Let's go out to beautiful Aurora, Colorado'll talk to Brent. 74 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:24.480 You're on the Dan Caplis. Show how you doing, Brent. 75 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:26.079 I'm doing great. 76 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:26.439 You know. 77 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:31.279 The biggest thing I have with all this gender identity is, 78 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:35.600 say you go to a crime scene. Okay, you get DNA, 79 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:38.800 it's going to be male or female regards to how 80 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:40.439 somebody identifies. 81 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:44.319 And that's how you put that on a form. Hardon me, 82 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:46.959 don't put that on a form. I'm joking, But go ahead. 83 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:49.519 You're pointing out very well the absurdity of all this. 84 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:54.160 Yeah, and you know, one hundred years from now, an 85 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:59.360 archaeologist goes in and exumes a body that is at 86 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:01.720 some place, then they're going to do DNA, and it's 87 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:04.120 going to be male or females, not what somebody identified 88 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:04.560 a right. 89 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:08.480 So why do you think they're so hell bent on this, 90 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:14.800 on forcing people to buy the lie. 91 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:18.920 I think they're wanting to people to buy it a 92 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:22.519 lot to get in line with their ideology. And you're 93 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:23.279 not going to do it. 94 00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:26.279 No, and good for you, and America sent an election 95 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:28.199 day it wouldn't do it. Brent, thank you for the call. 96 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:31.160 And I believe this. I'm not talking about Representative McCormick. 97 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:32.720 I'd love to have her on and just talk to 98 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:35.879 her as an individual about what's driving her. But when 99 00:05:35.879 --> 00:05:37.800 you talk about the left as a whole Ryan, the 100 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:40.439 only thing that makes any sense to me as to 101 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:43.920 why the left would make this their holy grail, second 102 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:47.720 only to abortion. You have to buy the lie, you 103 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:50.759 have to, under a threat of banishment from civil society, 104 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:54.040 be willing to say that man's really a woman. Is that. 105 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:57.600 It's just that the left knows that they have to 106 00:05:57.600 --> 00:05:59.360 do a couple of things to be able to prevail 107 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:03.720 in America. They have to intimidate people into bending the 108 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:08.720 knee and into a green with the left in order 109 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:10.439 for the left to prevail, they have to get people 110 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:14.680 to set aside their intellectual beliefs, set aside their religious 111 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:18.879 beliefs for the left to prevail. So this whole trans thing, 112 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:22.199 which never made any sense politically for the left right 113 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:24.959 because it's such a relatively small community. One of the 114 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:27.600 greatest people I've ever met my entire life is trans. 115 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:32.240 But it's still a very small community, and so it 116 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:34.879 never made any sense to me that they would go 117 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:38.000 all in on that unless there was a broader goal. 118 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:40.800 And I think this bill that we see the Democrats 119 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:44.279 pushing in Colorado right now just confirms that, right, because 120 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:47.480 if they really wanted to just acknowledge the feelings of 121 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:52.600 the deceased, they just add an extra box self identification and. 122 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:55.879 To kind of square the circle. Here, Dan, a very 123 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:59.000 interesting text of formulating a question for you and for 124 00:06:59.040 --> 00:06:59.920 everybody out there. 125 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:01.560 So did anyone ask this. 126 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:04.959 Democrat introducing this ludicrous bill if it's okay to abort 127 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:06.360 a trans baby? 128 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:10.199 What a great point. I love our listeners. How about 129 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:13.399 this one taking both of us to task, which we 130 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:16.879 greatly appreciate. And I wish this person would call the 131 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:20.160 show as well. It's so well worded, Dan and Ryan. 132 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:24.040 The consensus always watch out for that word, right, consensus 133 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:27.120 among whom is that transgender people are born that way, 134 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:30.920 and frankly, as I am transgendered, says the Texter, I 135 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:33.639 know I was born the way I am, And you 136 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:37.279 are incorrect on the science because biology is more complex 137 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:41.639 and xx or x y. Your contention is that being 138 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:45.480 transgendered is a learned experience, and it is not. It 139 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:48.360 is as predetermined as the color of your eyes. But 140 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:51.199 I cannot expect someone who is ignorant of it to 141 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:55.639 understand it. I agree on the abortion aspect of your commentary, 142 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:59.279 though that from Kimberly. A couple of things there. First, 143 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:03.040 Kimberly and the consensus, I'd love to see that, because 144 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:08.160 I'm not seeing that right now. And then you say 145 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:12.360 that my premise is that this identifying as the opposite 146 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:16.079 sex is a learned experience. I'm not saying that, Kimberly. 147 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:19.600 All I'm saying is that no matter where it comes from, 148 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:22.759 it doesn't change the truth that that person is what 149 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:26.120 their parts say they are when it comes to gender. 150 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:29.040 And then if that person wants to say what I 151 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:32.840 identify as the opposite, what do I care, knock yourself out, 152 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:36.600 but don't force other people to lie about it, and 153 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:39.639 don't claim a right to go into a girl's bathroom 154 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:44.120 or shower or to play a girl's sports and leave 155 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:47.240 the kids alone. Don't be recruiting the kids. That's all 156 00:08:47.279 --> 00:08:51.639 I'm saying. Anything wrong with that, Ryan, any hole in 157 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:55.480 that morally, intellectually, analytically, logically, No. 158 00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:58.080 But even what Kimberly says there, and I know she's 159 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:01.080 a regular listener, it underscoes or's the point of the 160 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:02.080 pro life position. 161 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:03.480 If you believe that the. 162 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:07.320 Person inside, no matter what they are xxx y trans what, 163 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:12.240 it's a living human being. Uh oh, left, how do 164 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:16.000 you justify aborting that living woman being? 165 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:18.799 At that point? You know what's really interesting as you 166 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:20.919 watch this over the years, I consider my mom one 167 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:24.399 of the founders of the pro life movement. But over 168 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:26.960 the years you've seen the argument on the left transition 169 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:29.679 right from the big lie in the beginning that that's 170 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:32.360 not a human, that's a clump of tissue to really 171 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:34.799 what I think is more mainstream on the left right now, 172 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:37.919 which is, oh, yeah, that's a baby, but we have 173 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:39.879 a right to kill it. I mean, that's really what 174 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:42.679 the left's argument has come down to and didn't Bill 175 00:09:42.759 --> 00:09:44.799 Maher have a great riff on that. Maybe you could 176 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:47.399 pull that up during the Brads And now you are AI, 177 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:49.440 You're on the Dan Caplas Show. 178 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:58.440 And now back to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast. 179 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:03.879 They think it's murder and it kind of is. I'm 180 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.840 just okay with that. I am. I mean, there's eight 181 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:10.840 billion people in the world. I'm sorry, we won't miss you. 182 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:18.360 That's my position on the what not your position if 183 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:22.600 your pro choice fascinating. You know, Bill Maher And one 184 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:24.759 of the most memorable interviews I've had on this show 185 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:27.480 is Bill Maher, and we really went at it and 186 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:31.480 then he ended up hanging up. But he seems Ryan 187 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:33.279 at this point, and he still says some things that 188 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:38.000 aren't true, but he seems devoted to just this radical honesty, right, 189 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:42.559 and so I think he's just become so disgusted by 190 00:10:42.679 --> 00:10:45.600 the blatant dishonesty of the left, such as on this 191 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:50.120 transgender stuff. Having under threat of criminal prosecution in the 192 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:53.399 case of the New Colorado Bill or banishment from society, 193 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:57.360 you have to then lie and say that somebody who's 194 00:10:57.399 --> 00:11:01.080 a male is really a female. But he just spoke 195 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:04.440 the truth there, right, And that is I mean, so 196 00:11:04.519 --> 00:11:05.960 many on the left now, and I can tell you 197 00:11:06.039 --> 00:11:08.639 just from everything I read of what they write, etc. 198 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:13.879 So many in the pro abortion movement they just absolutely 199 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:18.639 recognize the undeniable truth that, yeah, you're killing a child, 200 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:22.600 you're killing a living human, and they just say that's okay. 201 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:26.039 And so that's one of the reasons I'm so confident 202 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:28.480 that the arc is toward life. And we see that 203 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:31.080 in tangible ways, right, including the fall of Dobbs, in 204 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:35.000 the election of Trump, etc. But yeah, is simply because 205 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:39.080 underlying it, the science is undeniable. So many people have 206 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:42.159 seen altarsounds. Now the left knows it can't really get 207 00:11:42.159 --> 00:11:44.960 away with that old argument that it's a clump of tissue. 208 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:47.320 I mean, right, have you ever had how many of 209 00:11:47.320 --> 00:11:48.919 your buddies come up to you and say, hey, man, 210 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:51.919 look at this picture of my fetus. No, I mean 211 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:53.679 all of us. As soon as we got that first 212 00:11:53.679 --> 00:11:55.320 altar sound, we're running out and say hey, look at 213 00:11:55.320 --> 00:11:55.840 my baby. 214 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:56.159 Right. 215 00:11:56.320 --> 00:12:00.639 So it's all falling apart for the pro death left. 216 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.159 And a couple of things, Dan, why you're right and 217 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:06.480 why the momentum is moving in that direction, and especially 218 00:12:06.519 --> 00:12:09.960 among gen Z's, and it's because of the science I 219 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:12.559 think that they're talking about, and hopefully it is. But 220 00:12:12.919 --> 00:12:14.720 there's a couple of points we made here the left. 221 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:18.799 If you notice, Dan, they rarely use the word abortion anymore. 222 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:20.200 They've run away from. 223 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:22.080 It, so they don't think productive rights. There you go. 224 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:25.399 And the other part is how many other leftists, let's 225 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:29.039 get Bill Maher some credit here, are fundamentally honest about 226 00:12:29.039 --> 00:12:32.320 the position he was. He said, look, if your pro choice, 227 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:33.519 isn't that what you believe? 228 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:37.360 And the answer is yes, you know, well, well I obviously, 229 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:39.440 and we've talked about it before. They won't use the 230 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:42.720 word abortion because everybody knows right now that's wrong. And 231 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:44.759 so these are the same folks if they've been alive 232 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:49.240 in the eighteen Oh no, no, you can't say slavery. 233 00:12:49.360 --> 00:12:52.360 It has to be farmer's rights. You know, it has 234 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:56.799 to be you know, plantation owner's rights. You can't say slavery. Right, 235 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:59.159 it's the same idea. Hey. By the way, the reason 236 00:12:59.159 --> 00:13:02.639 we're talking about this today, other than it's the number 237 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:06.039 one civil rights issue in the world today, is because 238 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:08.279 we've got this state rep out of Boulder. We're trying 239 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:10.559 to get her on I think she's been on before. 240 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:15.000 You don't think so, right, But Representative Karen McCormick from 241 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:19.679 House District eleven, who I think didn't realize she was 242 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:22.759 supporting the pro life movement when she said this cut 243 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:23.279 one place. 244 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:31.279 Well, we know, even from fetal development perspective, that sex 245 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:36.279 is defined in the first trimester of pregnancy, whereas the 246 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:39.279 beginnings of the sense of gender identity start in the 247 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:44.080 second trimester of pregnancy. So certainly often these two things 248 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:45.919 match up, but often they don't. 249 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:49.879 Well, the only way the sense of gender identity can 250 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:52.240 start in the second trimester is if you're a living 251 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:56.200 human right, And so thank you for that, Representative. And 252 00:13:56.279 --> 00:13:58.279 I don't know where she's at on the life issue. 253 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:01.039 I assume just because she's an elected Democrat that she's 254 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:03.879 rapidly pro abortion, but maybe I'm wrong on that. The 255 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:06.639 other point though, this idea that wait a second, these 256 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:10.000 kids are deciding before they're born that they're really not 257 00:14:10.279 --> 00:14:14.039 what they are now. I would love to hear her 258 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:16.919 science behind that, because you can be sure it does 259 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:20.600 not exist. But then this ties into this bill that 260 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:25.159 she's pushing. She's a main sponsor of called gender identity 261 00:14:25.240 --> 00:14:28.320 Certificate of death that as I read the bill, and 262 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:30.080 she's welcome to come on and tell me I'm missing 263 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:36.960 something would would force a state medical officer, under threat 264 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:41.440 of criminal prosecution, to lie on official documents. If they've 265 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:43.759 got a body in front of them and it is 266 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:46.559 male and it has all the male parts, they would 267 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:50.559 be forced to write down as sex female, as long 268 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:53.039 as that person had left those instructions behind. And as 269 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:55.600 I read the bill, even if that person had not 270 00:14:55.720 --> 00:15:01.000 left those instructions behind, if another appropriate person and then 271 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:03.440 the bill identifies who that would be says, oh no, 272 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:07.039 that's a female, the state official would still have to 273 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:10.039 lie on the form under threat of criminal prosecution, at 274 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:12.519 least as I read that bill. And here's here's my 275 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:17.039 even bigger point. If this was really just about sensitivity 276 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:20.799 to the dearly departed, and if they identified as female 277 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:24.360 even though they were male, then the fix here wouldn't 278 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:26.360 be to force people to lie in a state form. 279 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:29.279 The fix would be a separate box where they could 280 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:34.039 write down self identification. Right, So why aren't they introducing 281 00:15:34.039 --> 00:15:38.000 a bill that says that? What's your answer to that? 282 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:40.480 Eight five zero five A two five five text d 283 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:47.240 An five seven seven three nine Brian, Great Texters want 284 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:50.039 to clarify something, Dan, with our last comment regarding abortion 285 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:54.840 and gender identity, Mountain grandparents are being completely sarcastic, using 286 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:58.279 the current woke vernaculars such as inseminated person. We are 287 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:00.600 truly amazed at the idiocy that were so hard to 288 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:04.399 convince so many without the slightest awareness of their own contradictions. 289 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:08.360 Mountain Grandparents, we can assure you every listener knew that 290 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:10.919 you were being sarcastic, but we have cleared it up 291 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:15.879 in case somebody missed it. Dan, I missed the news 292 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:19.879 of the discovery of the trans chromosome, sent with invisible ink. 293 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:23.919 You gotta love our listeners. Got to love our listeners 294 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:26.080 so and by the way, sometimes we get people sending 295 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:28.279 us a links the links says some Texters are we 296 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:31.600 can't take those because the text are off the iHeart 297 00:16:31.639 --> 00:16:36.200 system and they wisely do not accept links. Dan, did 298 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:39.120 anyone ask this democrat introducing this ludicrous bill if it's 299 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:42.799 okay to abort a trans baby? Going to Ryan's earlier point, 300 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:45.720 I would love to be able to ask a Democrat 301 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:49.639 that question, and hopefully this representative will join us but 302 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:51.320 what do you think their answer would be. I think 303 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:54.200 we both know what their answer would be, right, I 304 00:16:54.200 --> 00:16:57.039 don't know what answered it could be, dan oh, because 305 00:16:57.120 --> 00:16:59.679 it's the same as their answer to everything else, and right, 306 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:03.639 every debate, everything else. Do you accept any limits whatsoever 307 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:07.519 on abortion timing, reason, et cetera. They always defer to 308 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:11.119 it's up to the mother, right, just like California, where 309 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:14.319 it's a capital offense, it's it's capital murder in California. 310 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:17.599 Let's say that you've got a mom and she's walking 311 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:21.480 out of an office where she's just picked up a check. 312 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:24.680 This is a real life case, and somebody punches her 313 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:26.640 in the stomach trying to steal her purse. They don't 314 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:29.799 know she's pregnant, she's two weeks pregnant, and they kill 315 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:33.359 her unborn child. That person is then guilty of capital 316 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:39.240 murder in California. But California Democrats have made sure it's 317 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:42.960 law that that baby can be killed moments before delivery 318 00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:46.240 at full term. So how do you reconcile those two? 319 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:48.519 And by the way, there's somebody who did a lot 320 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:50.839 of jail time in that first example. That's that's a 321 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:51.440 true case. 322 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:57.519 Yeah, it's a moral dilemma, isn't it, Dan, No, No, 323 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:00.440 For them, it's it's right, right, right. 324 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:03.960 But there's no moral dilemma. It's the clearest thing on 325 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:07.000 the planet when it comes to right and wrong, So 326 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:09.200 there is no dilemma. I understand that a lot of 327 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:14.880 women find themselves in very challenging situations with an unintended pregnancy, 328 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:17.480 et cetera, but it doesn't chase the fact that is 329 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:22.240 a living human who the Democrats say you can kill 330 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:25.000 until birth, and that's fundamentally wrong. You're on the Dan cap. 331 00:18:31.599 --> 00:18:33.960 You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. 332 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:37.599 Hey, one of our favorites coming up. Aaron Lee will 333 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:42.079 join us. Erin for parental Rights and executive director Protect 334 00:18:42.200 --> 00:18:45.559 Kids Colorado. Erin Welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show. 335 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:48.079 Thank Dan, thanks for having me back. 336 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:52.480 Well, I saw your tweet this morning and it's on 337 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:54.799 a story that we've been covering at links, so I 338 00:18:54.839 --> 00:18:56.839 wanted to get you on and get your take. But 339 00:18:57.680 --> 00:18:59.799 for the folks who just joined us, let's tee up 340 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:03.359 that sound first. This is a Boulder Statehouse Rep. Karen 341 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:04.640 McCormick cut one. 342 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:09.119 Please, we know even from fetal development perspective, that sex 343 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:14.119 is defined in the first trimester of pregnancy, whereas the 344 00:19:14.119 --> 00:19:17.119 beginnings of the sense of gender identity start in the 345 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:21.880 second trimester of pregnancy. So certainly often these two things 346 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:23.759 match up, but often they don't. 347 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:27.240 Wow. Well, you know, as a pro lifeer, I'm really 348 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:29.880 happy to hear say that, because if these kids are 349 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:32.680 figuring out they're not really their true sex in the 350 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:35.319 second trimester, well then you shouldn't be able to kill them, right, 351 00:19:35.799 --> 00:19:39.079 But what do you think of this whole goofy premise? 352 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:42.240 Arein that the kids are figuring out even before they're born, 353 00:19:42.359 --> 00:19:44.920 that no, those parts really aren't my gender. 354 00:19:46.200 --> 00:19:49.960 Well, quatch with Dan. This trans kid genocide that they 355 00:19:50.039 --> 00:19:53.079 keep screaming about apparently really is happening. It's just that 356 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:59.319 they're the ones murdering them. Gosh, it was non spentacle 357 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:05.960 the bill. But hearing yeah, well, hey, they keep screaming 358 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:09.079 that people are feeling trans kids. If that's the case, 359 00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:13.240 they're the ones doing it. This whole bill was insanity. 360 00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:15.519 I mean truly, it was bill twenty five to eleven 361 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:19.359 oh nine to make it a criminal offense or someone 362 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:23.440 filling out a death certificate to misgender, as they say, 363 00:20:23.480 --> 00:20:24.960 someone's gender identity. 364 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:25.960 So they are. 365 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:30.000 Compelling coroners who are looking at a body so that 366 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:33.200 is clearly male, and saying you must declare that this 367 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:37.119 is a female on official records or face criminal charges. 368 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:41.039 And when I looked into these the misdemeanor that they propose, 369 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:44.720 it's the same penalty as someone who commits second degree 370 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:51.880 arsin best false imprisonment, keeping a place of prostitution. And 371 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:55.319 they believe that this is suitable punishment for someone who 372 00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:58.000 refuses to be compelling a lie. 373 00:20:58.440 --> 00:21:02.960 Exactly. So the Democrats now are pushing a bill that 374 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:06.200 says it's a crime not to lie on a government form, 375 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:09.599 and that just tells you everything you need to know 376 00:21:09.640 --> 00:21:13.039 about the Democratic Party in Colorado, doesn't it. 377 00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:17.400 It's just one more incremental step towards eradicating our free 378 00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:20.519 speech rights. I pointed out in my testimony during this 379 00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:24.960 hearing that in twenty nineteen eleven twenty nine compelled the 380 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:28.640 speech of therapists and harmed children in the process. Last 381 00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:31.680 year they passed ten thirty nine, which compels the speech 382 00:21:31.720 --> 00:21:35.440 of teachers and harms kids in the process. And while 383 00:21:35.480 --> 00:21:37.559 people may look at this and think this is such 384 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:40.480 a filly bill, they're wasting time. It will harm people 385 00:21:40.519 --> 00:21:43.240 in the process. It will harm those families of kids 386 00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:46.680 who died gender confused, who died to suicide or died 387 00:21:46.680 --> 00:21:51.039 to complications from these barbe barrack medical procedures. It will 388 00:21:51.039 --> 00:21:55.359 harm the coroners or the funeral directors, which are often churches, 389 00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:59.200 who are being compelled to lie on government documents. That 390 00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:01.480 absolutely will harm people in the process. It's not a 391 00:22:01.480 --> 00:22:04.559 harmless bill, and it's one more step towards taking away 392 00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:05.240 our free speech. 393 00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:08.559 And I'm thinking out loud off of your last point. 394 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:14.839 I haven't concluded this, but might it not also promote suicide? 395 00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:17.640 I mean, couldn't you see some terribly confused and a 396 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:23.119 lot of heartbreaking cases, terribly confused child who is just 397 00:22:23.279 --> 00:22:27.960 now so caught up in their identity, is their gender identity, 398 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:31.240 that they're not really a male, they're a female and 399 00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:35.039 that's how they want to be known. And that is 400 00:22:35.079 --> 00:22:37.839 there a scenario where that could then motivate a suicide 401 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:40.839