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That's eight o 28 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,400 one three eight zero eight zero eight seven. That's Recent 29 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,799 Cleaning Services. Eight oh one three eight zero eight zero 30 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,879 age seven. Let's get out to the online. Welcome to 31 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,200 Tim Healey, voice of the Arizona Sun Devils. Tim, how 32 00:01:31,239 --> 00:01:33,040 you living well? 33 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,079 Speaker 1: It's the Arizona State sun Devils. 34 00:01:35,239 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: I know, I got I apologize, Arizona State sun Devils. 35 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,799 How dare I? And I'm from the great state of Arizona. 36 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,000 I messed up? I apologize. 37 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,879 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's surprising how many UH reporters on 38 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,000 the national scene do the same thing. I mean, it's 39 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,040 it's mind boggling over the years, because the funny thing 40 00:01:58,079 --> 00:02:00,640 to me is that you never hear people different, you know, 41 00:02:01,079 --> 00:02:05,040 call them the Michigan Spartans or the Michigan State Wolverines, 42 00:02:05,079 --> 00:02:11,000 but boin nationwide, even on ESPN sometimes you have you know, 43 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,280 commentators talking about the Arizona sun Devils or the Arizona 44 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:20,240 State Wildcats, and you know, just one of those things, 45 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,280 I guess, but you have to fight for your own 46 00:02:22,319 --> 00:02:26,759 respect and ongoing process. For the sun Devils, obviously, they. 47 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,599 Speaker 2: I apologize that sickening is maddening, but I will say 48 00:02:30,599 --> 00:02:33,199 this is Arizona State team is well coached, and they 49 00:02:33,199 --> 00:02:36,840 are talented. And look, I would say, you know, the 50 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,159 combo of football and basketball right now, I feel like 51 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,280 it's on the rise in Tempee. How are you feeling 52 00:02:42,319 --> 00:02:42,639 about it? 53 00:02:44,199 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: Well, I'd say, yeah, football definitely is on the rise 54 00:02:47,879 --> 00:02:51,840 under Kenny Dillingham. A Big Twelve championship that came out 55 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,360 of nowhere last year. I mean, we were picked to 56 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,520 finish what sixteenth last in the Big Twelve, and they 57 00:02:57,599 --> 00:03:00,439 end up winning the conference championship and coming within a 58 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,879 fourth and thirteen stop in the Peach Bowl of beating 59 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,240 Texas and advancing to the quarter to the semi finals 60 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,000 of last year's College Football Playoff. And this year they 61 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,159 backed it up with what I thought was a really 62 00:03:13,319 --> 00:03:17,080 solid eight win season. Solid when you consider the fact 63 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,159 that they were missing some key players for a good 64 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,080 chunk of the year, including their best receiver, Jordan Tyson, 65 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,240 who is onto the NFL and their star quarterback Sam Levitt, 66 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,919 who's in the transfer portal and to the best of 67 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,240 my knowledge, still looking for a landing spot there. But 68 00:03:32,759 --> 00:03:35,680 the Devils had an eight win season, and I thought 69 00:03:35,719 --> 00:03:37,560 put on a really good show in the Sun Bowl 70 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,360 last week, even though they were missing thirty five players. 71 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,080 They put up six hundred and nineteen yards of offense 72 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,319 against the defending or the current Atlantic Coast Conference champions 73 00:03:48,319 --> 00:03:51,319 in Duke before falling in a high scoring game at 74 00:03:51,319 --> 00:03:55,360 the Sun Ball. So football on an upward trajectory basketball, 75 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,520 it's been you know. The season got off to a 76 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:02,599 nice start for Bobby Hurley's team. The Sun Devils won 77 00:04:02,719 --> 00:04:05,919 nine of their first eleven games, put on a great 78 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,120 showing at the Maui Invitational Thanksgiving Week, advanced to the 79 00:04:10,199 --> 00:04:14,360 championship game in Maui before losing to USC in the 80 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,399 title game. Had some really good quality wins in the 81 00:04:17,439 --> 00:04:22,680 non conference over Texas, Oklahoma, Washington State, a win at Hawaii. 82 00:04:23,439 --> 00:04:26,160 Rallied from nineteen down in the second half to beat 83 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,319 a good Santa Clara team in a neutral site game 84 00:04:29,439 --> 00:04:34,600 in Henderson, Nevada. But the last three games they've taken 85 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,199 a step backward. They've lost their last three in a 86 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,759 row have the Sun Devils, including two losses in their 87 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,959 last two games in what I thought were highly winnable 88 00:04:44,439 --> 00:04:49,079 home games against Oregon State right before Christmas, and they 89 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,519 lost at home to Colorado Saturday and their Big twelve opener. 90 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,879 And among the challenges for the team the last three games, 91 00:04:56,199 --> 00:04:59,560 they've suddenly gone dry from three point range. They were 92 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,199 a pretty a good three point shooting team for most 93 00:05:02,199 --> 00:05:04,319 of the season up in the I don't know, thirty 94 00:05:04,319 --> 00:05:06,879 eight to thirty nine percent range, But in the last 95 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,120 three games they're shooting nineteen percent from outside the arc, 96 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:14,439 and they're getting good looks, they're just not shooting them well, 97 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,439 and a lot of it I think it's just a 98 00:05:16,519 --> 00:05:20,040 confidence issue. And you know, hopefully tonight they can get 99 00:05:20,079 --> 00:05:22,360 a few to fall early, because I think that makes 100 00:05:22,399 --> 00:05:25,800 a difference. And in conjunction with that, another problem is 101 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,800 that the Devils have gotten off to very slow starts. 102 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,240 Their last three games. They've basically fallen behind by double 103 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,439 digit margins in the first half of each of these 104 00:05:34,519 --> 00:05:39,720 last three games, and not coincidentally, they've lost. So basketball 105 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,319 is you know, you know, football, I think very much 106 00:05:43,319 --> 00:05:48,759 on an upward trajectory. Basketball challenges await to. Certainly, the 107 00:05:48,759 --> 00:05:51,319 Big Twelve is the I think the best basketball conference 108 00:05:51,319 --> 00:05:54,480 in the country, and the Sun Devils tonight start an 109 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,800 unbelievably tough stretch where they play three of their next 110 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,600 four games on the road, all of the road games 111 00:06:01,639 --> 00:06:05,720 against top ten ranked opponents. They have BYU tonight, they 112 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,160 have Arizona in Tucson next Wednesday night and Arizona's number 113 00:06:09,199 --> 00:06:12,519 one in the country. And then on Sunday, January eighteenth, 114 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,959 the Devil's go to Houston and the Cougars are ranked 115 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,360 seventh in the nation. So that's that's a gauntlet right there, 116 00:06:18,399 --> 00:06:20,319 and challenges dual weight. 117 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,439 Speaker 2: Arizona state net ranking ninety four. They're nine and five 118 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,120 on the season, ze one in conference play. But I 119 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,360 look at their Quad one, Quad two opportunities. They're competitive 120 00:06:29,399 --> 00:06:31,360 in all these games, I mean, sixty five seventy, So 121 00:06:31,399 --> 00:06:35,040 we know Gonzaga is a very good team. You were 122 00:06:35,079 --> 00:06:37,839 on a you were at home. Maybe that's why he 123 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,439 kept it close, but neutral game versus Southern California seventy 124 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,319 five eighty eight, you gotta win versus Oklahoma on a 125 00:06:44,399 --> 00:06:47,600 neutral court, that was a nice dub. The UCLA loss 126 00:06:47,759 --> 00:06:49,839 lost by thirteen, that was in a way setting. So 127 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,000 how competitive has ASU been in these Quad one Quad 128 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,319 two games? You guys are three and one in Quad 129 00:06:56,319 --> 00:06:57,399 two opportunities. 130 00:06:58,439 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been, you know, competitive in most of their games. 131 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,639 They really don't get blown out of any games. All 132 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,399 three of these games that they've lost, they've been in them. 133 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,120 You know. Even they lost by thirteen at UCLA, And 134 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,480 if they had just had a bad shooting night from 135 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,839 three point range at UCLA, they might have won. They 136 00:07:17,879 --> 00:07:21,240 only made four of twenty six three point attempts in 137 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,600 that game. If they had made eight of twenty six, 138 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,920 that wouldn't exactly be lighting it up, but it would 139 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,680 have made a huge difference and they might have been 140 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,040 able to win the basketball game. And another problem is 141 00:07:32,079 --> 00:07:34,879 not only are they not hitting threes, but their opponents 142 00:07:35,279 --> 00:07:38,959 these last three games have been ASU has not been 143 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:41,800 good defensively these last three games, giving up an average 144 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,439 of eighty eight points in the last three games, and 145 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,360 their opponents are shooting I think something like forty one 146 00:07:47,959 --> 00:07:51,199 forty two percent from three point range the last three games. 147 00:07:51,199 --> 00:07:54,120 So it's been kind of a double edged sword for them. 148 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,160 But yeah, they're competitive in all these games. You know, 149 00:07:57,199 --> 00:07:59,319 they lost, as you said, by twelve at home to 150 00:07:59,399 --> 00:08:02,680 gun Zaga. They were in that game all the way, 151 00:08:02,839 --> 00:08:06,000 but Gonzaga kind of had control of that game most 152 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,120 of the way. But they're you know, Gonzaga is a 153 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,680 great basketball team. In the USC game, I think the 154 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,040 Sun Devils just ran out of gas, you know, playing 155 00:08:14,079 --> 00:08:17,000 their third game in three days at the Maui Invitational, 156 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,439 and as luck would have it, I don't know why 157 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,319 they did it, but this year at Maui, the championship 158 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,079 game on the day before Thanksgiving was scheduled for nine 159 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,279 to thirty in the morning Hawaii time, So the Sun 160 00:08:30,279 --> 00:08:34,639 Devils had very little turnaround from their Tuesday evening one 161 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,600 hundred to ninety four went over Washington State in the 162 00:08:37,639 --> 00:08:41,159 semi final to get rested and ready to play USC. 163 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,919 But they just kind of ran out of gas in 164 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,200 that game. And these last three losses, as I said, 165 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,519 they've they've been competitive, but these last two games home 166 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,000 games against Oregon State and Colorado are games that you know, 167 00:08:54,039 --> 00:08:56,399 the Sun Devils just have to figure those are games 168 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,480 they need to win, and they just could not get 169 00:08:58,519 --> 00:08:59,159 it done. 170 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,639 Speaker 2: The Big twelve Gauntlet. I've described the Big twelve as 171 00:09:02,759 --> 00:09:07,000 the g League with university logos on it. You've seen 172 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,679 a lot of ball in the Pac twelve, in the 173 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,440 Pac ten. You've been doing this for a long time 174 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,879 and wanted to get your overall eval of the transition 175 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,759 from Pac twelve play in both football basketball and going 176 00:09:19,399 --> 00:09:22,480 in coming into the Big twelve football and basketball. Give 177 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:28,679 me your synopsis, maybe eval talent coaching product. Obviously the 178 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,960 destinations aren't as beautiful, you know, but you know there's 179 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,519 some really good football, really good basketball being played right now. 180 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we were in the Pac twelve for a 181 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,519 long time. This is my twenty eighth year doing the 182 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:45,120 radio for ASU. So obviously twenty six of those were 183 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,879 broadcasting in the Pac twelve. Plus I did Arizona State 184 00:09:47,919 --> 00:09:51,720 on television for ten years prior to becoming the radio voice. 185 00:09:51,759 --> 00:09:54,639 So it's actually my thirty eighth year broadcasting Sun Devil 186 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,639 sports and all the two of them in the Pac twelve. 187 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,840 And you know, like anything that you've been a part 188 00:09:59,879 --> 00:10:01,960 of for a long time. You miss it when it's gone. 189 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,720 It was actually kind of neat, even though we lost 190 00:10:04,759 --> 00:10:09,000 the games to reconnect with, you know, going to UCLA, 191 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,279 going to Pauley Pavilion the week before Christmas and having 192 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:17,320 Oregon State come to our place on December twenty first, 193 00:10:16,519 --> 00:10:20,799 and then actually seeing you. Although I didn't get to 194 00:10:20,799 --> 00:10:23,759 do the Maui Invitational this year because of football commitments, 195 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,200 the Sun Devils hooked up with another Pac twelve opponent 196 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,759 in usc and actually they're zero to three this year 197 00:10:30,159 --> 00:10:34,519 against their former Pac twelve rivals. But I miss it, 198 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,000 you know. And on the other hand, the Big Twelve 199 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,679 is you know, it's been great. You know, there's more. 200 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,799 One thing I like is that there's a lot of 201 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,600 college towns in the Big Twelve. The PAC twelve was 202 00:10:45,639 --> 00:10:50,480 a mostly urban conference, and there are some beautiful destination 203 00:10:50,639 --> 00:10:56,080 cities Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle obviously, Salt Lake City, 204 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,840 and the Denver Boulder area as well, but you know, 205 00:11:00,039 --> 00:11:03,639 it's mainly an urban conference, whereas the Big Twelve has 206 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,960 a lot of college towns like games Isowa, Lawrence and Manhattan, Kansas, 207 00:11:08,039 --> 00:11:14,559 and Stillwater, Oklahoma, and Waco, Texas. And Morgantown, West Virginia, 208 00:11:14,639 --> 00:11:19,039 and it's really been fun to experience those places for 209 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,960 the first time. And the quality of the competition is terrific. 210 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,120 You know, say what you will about the Big Twelve 211 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:27,399 as a football league, but I think it was a 212 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,320 tremendously and has been the last two years, a tremendously 213 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:35,440 balanced league. A lot of really good teams in the 214 00:11:35,519 --> 00:11:39,639 conference and basketball. I don't think there's a better league 215 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,240 in the country than the Big Twelve, but I think 216 00:11:42,279 --> 00:11:46,000 it's pretty self explanatory for anyone who follows college basketball. 217 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,200 And the baseball is very good too, some really nice ballparks. 218 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,960 A lot of schools in the Big Twelve put a 219 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:57,039 lot of emphasis financially and otherwise on baseball and getting 220 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,519 to go to parks like Baylors and last year we 221 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,879 were also Cincinnati has a very nice ballpark right on campus. 222 00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:09,000 You know, West Virginia has become a really solid program 223 00:12:09,399 --> 00:12:12,440 in baseball. It's a heck of a good baseball league. 224 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:17,120 So the competition has been really good. The people have 225 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,320 been very welcoming. As soon as we joined the Big Twelve, 226 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,519 I was invited into a text message chain of all 227 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:29,240 the radio play by play announcers in the Big Twelve Conference, 228 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:34,080 and you know, it's all been very welcoming. And I'll 229 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,919 never forget last year in twenty twenty four when we 230 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,960 played our first football game at Kansas State in late November, 231 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,639 when we were starting to make our run toward the 232 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,840 Big Twelve championship, and we're walking into the stadium in Manhattan, 233 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,960 and we had about four or five different fans k 234 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,519 State fans who stopped us on the way in to 235 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,919 just say, Hey, great to see you guys in the 236 00:12:56,919 --> 00:12:59,279 Big Twelve, Welcome to the Big Twelve. Great to have 237 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,519 Arizona State in the league, that sort of thing. So 238 00:13:02,159 --> 00:13:05,360 it's all that's been really really good. And you know, 239 00:13:05,399 --> 00:13:08,080 the quality of the competition and the quality of the 240 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,600 basketball is just you know, phenomenal, and the coaching, you know, 241 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,279 it's just primo the best league in the country in 242 00:13:14,279 --> 00:13:14,840 my opinion. 243 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I feel the same way. It's been. 244 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,360 It's been, Uh, it's kind of been fun to watch 245 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,519 this uh, this conference morph and meld together with the 246 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,519 some of the old Pac twelve teams, et cetera, in 247 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:29,440 some of the the AEC teams that they picked up 248 00:13:29,879 --> 00:13:34,000 as well. So the future of the Big twelve. How 249 00:13:34,039 --> 00:13:36,879 does it look? Does it look promising to you? Does 250 00:13:36,919 --> 00:13:40,039 it look like the power force structure will stay intact? 251 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,480 Kind of how do you? How do you feel about that? 252 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,720 You know, the next five to ten years, as conferences 253 00:13:46,279 --> 00:13:50,120 begin to renegotiate their their TV deals and their structures. 254 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,399 Speaker 1: Well, the feeling I've always had, and it's not men 255 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,440 in any way as a slight to the Big Twelve, 256 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,279 but I've I had the feeling when this all first 257 00:13:59,279 --> 00:14:02,399 went down a couple years ago, and I still kind 258 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:08,639 of maintain that feeling, is that at some point in 259 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,600 the next three or four years, I just have a 260 00:14:12,639 --> 00:14:18,120 feeling I wouldn't be surprised if administrators and the people, 261 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,559 the powers that be have a sort of, as I 262 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,799 would call it, a come to Jesus moment and realize, 263 00:14:23,879 --> 00:14:26,799 you know what, we really need to get a West 264 00:14:26,879 --> 00:14:31,399 Coast based sports league college sports league back up and 265 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,679 running and almost kind of like get the Pac twelve 266 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,840 bunch back together. I just don't know how sustainable the 267 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,519 model is. Like when we were at UCLA back in 268 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,399 late December, I was looking at the Bruins schedule in 269 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,159 basketball and this month I think the Bruins opened Big 270 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,480 Twelve play with games at I think it was maybe 271 00:14:54,799 --> 00:14:58,840 Minnesota and Iowa. This week, they're home to play one 272 00:14:58,879 --> 00:15:01,399 game this weekend, and then next week they go back 273 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,080 on the road, I think to play Maryland in Ohio state. 274 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:10,639 I mean, you're talking about transcontinental trips, you know, very 275 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,840 very frequently during the course of the year, and for 276 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,039 all of their sports teams. I just don't know how 277 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,159 sustainable that model is for all these schools based on 278 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:25,480 the West Coast to be playing conference games and opponents 279 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,639 almost an entire continent away. I mean, think about it 280 00:15:29,639 --> 00:15:32,879 from a Cal and Stanford perspective. How first of all, 281 00:15:32,879 --> 00:15:35,240 how ludicrous is it that two schools in the Bay 282 00:15:35,279 --> 00:15:39,159 Area are part of the Atlantic Coast Conference. I think 283 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,960 it should be the ACC really should be renamed the 284 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,720 All Coast Conference, because that's what it is right now. 285 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:50,559 And you know, you talk about tough models for you know, 286 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,840 Cal and Stanford sports teams. You know, so many of 287 00:15:53,879 --> 00:15:57,360 their trips are of a trans continental nature, and I 288 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,399 just don't know where the money's going to come from 289 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:04,039 to keep teams traveling you know, that far that frequently. 290 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,519 So we'll see what happens. But I tell you what, 291 00:16:08,519 --> 00:16:11,799 when all this went down, Arizona State was very fortunate, 292 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,879 I think, to have found a landing spot as solid 293 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:21,960 and as competitive as the Big twelve conference, because the 294 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:28,120 sports competition has been great, the schools, the venues, the towns. 295 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,120 It's been a good experience. You know. I told people 296 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,039 two years ago about how bittersweet it was. 297 00:16:34,159 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: You know. 298 00:16:34,519 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: The bitter part was that last year in the Pac 299 00:16:38,039 --> 00:16:41,720 twelve and making the rounds, like our final baseball series 300 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:44,320 of the year was at Stanford, and as luck would 301 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,240 have it, Arizona State went up there and swept the 302 00:16:46,279 --> 00:16:49,360 three game series against Stanford and what was our final 303 00:16:49,639 --> 00:16:52,960 Pac twelve series ever. And I remember interviewing Stanford's baseball coach, 304 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,159 David Esker, who's been a friend for a long time, 305 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,320 during that series, and he was just lamenting how just 306 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,039 it just didn't seem right for the Pac twelve to 307 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,720 be going away, and and and so forth. But the 308 00:17:07,759 --> 00:17:10,680 sweet part came the following year when we started making 309 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,960 our first go through of the Big twelve, and again 310 00:17:13,039 --> 00:17:16,920 how welcoming everyone's been and the new experiences that we've 311 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,720 been able to enjoy as a part of a tremendous conference. 312 00:17:20,839 --> 00:17:24,599 Like the Big Twelve, and you know, we'll see what happens. 313 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,799 And you know, my theory could be wrong. Maybe maybe 314 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:31,200 this is the future of college athletics go in this direction. 315 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,319 But it does seem to me that they're you know, 316 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,559 they're they're just I don't know, just it's it's a shame, 317 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:43,200 you know that there isn't a major power conference based 318 00:17:43,319 --> 00:17:46,279 on the West Coast like there was for so many 319 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,440 years in the Pac twelve conference. 320 00:17:49,039 --> 00:17:51,519 Speaker 2: I'm sure you've been asked this question before. You've been 321 00:17:51,519 --> 00:17:55,079 doing this a long time, and you know, I truly 322 00:17:55,119 --> 00:18:01,519 it's unfathomable that the Conference of Champions no longer exists. 323 00:18:01,559 --> 00:18:03,440 I mean, that kind of exists, but it doesn't exist. 324 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:03,799 Speaker 1: Really. 325 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: We tend to, you know, after games, you know, when 326 00:18:09,039 --> 00:18:12,359 big events care we tend to delve into not a 327 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,319 blame game. But I look at it more as like 328 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,400 a PI chart of accountability, because I don't know if 329 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,200 it's any one thing that that uh loses you a 330 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,880 game or you know, contributes to a conference that's been 331 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:29,119 around for one hundred years or whatever disappearing overnight. Have 332 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,720 you ever pie charted you know, a kind of a 333 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,680 from an accountability sense, how the heck this happened. Like 334 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,200 we talked about Larry Scott, we talk about, you know, overspending, 335 00:18:43,839 --> 00:18:48,880 We talk about maybe internal consultants. You can talk about ESPN, 336 00:18:49,039 --> 00:18:55,839 Fox TV, people maybe making certain decisions overvaluations of oneself, 337 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,759 the hubris of maybe overvaluation, usc U, c l A. 338 00:19:00,759 --> 00:19:03,240 When you're asked, how did this happen? What's your response? 339 00:19:03,319 --> 00:19:05,119 I guess is what I'm getting at with your pie 340 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,240 chart of accountability? 341 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,519 Speaker 1: Well, I would say my response is you pretty much 342 00:19:09,519 --> 00:19:13,000 gave the response because you pretty much included everything there. 343 00:19:13,079 --> 00:19:14,400 I mean, no need to. 344 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 2: Mbil is there is there a bigger piece of the 345 00:19:16,799 --> 00:19:18,440 pie though, that somebody needs to. 346 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,519 Speaker 1: Eat, don't I don't think so. I think I think 347 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,200 it's all of that's intertwined. It all kind of came 348 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:31,400 together in a sad amalgamation of factors. And it's just 349 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,000 just the way the sport has involved and how money 350 00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:38,240 and television and all that is just kind of taken 351 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,200 taken root as the predominant factors these days. It seems 352 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,720 in college sports, you know, so many people lament you know, 353 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,920 the transfer portal, for instance, and how it's such a 354 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,079 different day and age, and it really is I mean, 355 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:58,039 it's like it's not like your grandfather's college sports. You know, 356 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,880 following that years ago, the line between amateurism and professional 357 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,680 sports has been truly blurred. I think, you know, for 358 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:13,319 the foreseeable future. Although intellectually it's very difficult for me 359 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:18,000 to argue, you know that these kids they deserve to 360 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,240 be compensated. I mean, the athletes are the ones who 361 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,279 make college sports exciting. They're the ones that go out 362 00:20:25,279 --> 00:20:29,720 there and risk injury and put on these performances. And 363 00:20:30,319 --> 00:20:32,759 you know, you're going to have seventeen or eighteen thousand 364 00:20:32,839 --> 00:20:35,759 fans at the Marriott Center tonight there to cheer on 365 00:20:35,839 --> 00:20:39,160 their BYU team, and they're there to cheer on the players. 366 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,640 They're not there to cheer on the television network that's 367 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,519 covering the game, or the announcers or the administrators who 368 00:20:45,519 --> 00:20:48,839 will be there watching. They're there to watch the players perform, 369 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,680 and you know they're the ones that you know deserve 370 00:20:52,759 --> 00:20:56,400 to be compensated. But it's just it's just such a 371 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,880 different world now, and you just wonder to yourself how 372 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:04,799 sustainable the model is moving forward year in and year out. 373 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:10,039 Schools through their various means generating all the revenues that 374 00:21:10,079 --> 00:21:13,440 will be necessary to compensate all the student athletes and 375 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,880 all the different sports and so forth. That's that's the 376 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,480 way we are now. But it's it's just interesting to 377 00:21:20,519 --> 00:21:24,440 see how sustainable the model is going to be moving forward. 378 00:21:24,519 --> 00:21:26,680 But you know, like you said an answer to the question, 379 00:21:26,759 --> 00:21:31,799 you know you really did very succinctly. I think, you know, 380 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:37,119 dish out all the different characters in this saga, this drama, 381 00:21:37,559 --> 00:21:41,240 if you will, that have led to this. But you know, 382 00:21:41,319 --> 00:21:44,799 you can sit here and wallow and you know, you know, 383 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,640 organizational self pity, you know, thinking I wish we could 384 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,920 be back in the old PAC twelve of old, or 385 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,000 you can accept the change and move on and see 386 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,599 what the future holds. And I think that's what all 387 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,680 the teams that have come from the PAC twelve to 388 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,839 the Big twelve have done. I think they're all very 389 00:22:02,279 --> 00:22:05,319 excited about being in the league with the other schools 390 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:10,559 from the Big twelve, and hopefully the schools from like UCLA, USC, 391 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,039 Oregon and Washington feel the same about their experiences in 392 00:22:14,079 --> 00:22:17,079 the Big ten and CAL and Stanford and the All 393 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,920 Coast I mean the Atlantic Coast Conference. But yeah, I 394 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,880 mean it's just to say the least, to say the 395 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,799 very least, it's a new day and age in intercollegiate 396 00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:29,720 athletics for sure. 397 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: Let's talk ASU, b Y, you're going to be on 398 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,000 the call, and a issue has got a great opportunity 399 00:22:36,079 --> 00:22:40,440 to just create a more robust resume right now. If 400 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,839 they were to knock off the Cougars, it would be 401 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,160 tremendous for their resume. And they're a talented team. They've 402 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,200 been competitive. Give me a breakdown of who ASU is 403 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,519 on the hardwood briefly, and then let's talk scoutt report. 404 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:54,559 What you've been hearing about this bo basketball team. 405 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,319 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the Sun Devils do have some good players, 406 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,000 you know, fun to watch our point go mo odom as, 407 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,119 a transfer from Pepperdine who is second in the Big 408 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,079 twelve and assists. While still he scores nearly seventeen points 409 00:23:09,079 --> 00:23:12,000 a game. He's coming off a twenty one point twelve 410 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,119 assist game against Colorado this past Saturday. I think Moe 411 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,920 really needed the thirteen day Christmas break that the Sun 412 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,960 Devils had because his shooting had tailed off in a 413 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:27,119 couple of games prior to the Christmas break, but he 414 00:23:27,279 --> 00:23:29,680 was on the all tournament team. He put on quite 415 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,119 a show and the Maui Invitational had thirty six in 416 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,720 the Sun Devils opening when he literally carried them single 417 00:23:36,759 --> 00:23:40,519 handedly to victory over Texas in their first game in 418 00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:43,319 Maui and just had a phenomenal tournament. Made the All 419 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,400 Maui Team. He was fourth in the nation and assists 420 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,519 at Pepperdine a year ago, and he's I think in 421 00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:52,640 the top fifteen nationally in assists this year. Another guy 422 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,359 that they brought in, a seven foot freshman from Senegal, 423 00:23:58,319 --> 00:24:03,519 Masamba Jop been just a terrific player in the low post. 424 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,920 He is first in the Big twelve, eleventh nationally and 425 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,440 field goal percentage coming off his season high of twenty points, 426 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:16,079 as well as seven block shots against Colorado on Saturday. 427 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,720 The seven block shots the most by a Sun Devil 428 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,160 in eleven years. And he's been a real find. I 429 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,920 think he is a future NBA player. In his first 430 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,400 season at Arizona State, It'll be very interesting to watch 431 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,960 him and aj De Bonsa go at it in the 432 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,039 low post tonight. I mean, I don't have to tell 433 00:24:35,079 --> 00:24:38,440 you how great a player Debonsa is and Masamba Jop 434 00:24:38,599 --> 00:24:42,759 just oozes potential. He's not as he doesn't rebound as 435 00:24:42,839 --> 00:24:44,720 much as you would think a guy of his seven 436 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,559 foot size would averages about five a game. But he 437 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,559 is a potential rim protector, scorer, has a nice shooting 438 00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:55,319 touch from the outside. He's a very good free throw shooter, 439 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,440 and he's averaged seventeen points over the last five games 440 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,799 in his shooting seventy one percent from the field in 441 00:25:02,839 --> 00:25:05,680 those last five games as well. And then a guy 442 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,440 that I think you'll enjoy watching is Anthony His nickname 443 00:25:09,519 --> 00:25:12,480 is Pig. We call him the pig Man. Pig Johnson 444 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,319 a transfer from a small school in Kentucky, the University 445 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,680 of the Cumberlands, where a year ago in the NAIA 446 00:25:20,799 --> 00:25:27,200 he was I think the number four scorer nationally NAIA basketball, 447 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,680 and his game has translated to the major college level 448 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,880 at Arizona State. He's averaging fourteen points a game. Excellent 449 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,359 free throw shooter, he gets to the free throw line 450 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,000 more than any other Sun Devil and is intense on 451 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:43,799 the defensive end of the floor and not afraid to 452 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,880 drive the ball into traffic into bigger, taller players underneath 453 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,640 the hoop. Just so much fun to watch. And you 454 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,000 also have a former BYU Cougar on this team in 455 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,559 Marcus Adams, who was with BYU two years ago. Fortunately, 456 00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:03,200 Marcus won't play tonight. He suffered a back injury and 457 00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:06,839 practice Monday and he's I don't think he's on the trip. 458 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,839 I haven't seen him at practices, so unfortunately he won't 459 00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:12,559 get a chance to take the floor at the Marriott 460 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,000 Center tonight. Another good player that had his best game 461 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,920 Saturday as Colorado is Alan Mukaba, a six eight, two 462 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:26,039 hundred and fifty pound forward transferred from Oakland University in Michigan, 463 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,039 where he was an All Horizon League player a year ago. 464 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,960 And I wish I had a body like Alan Mukaba's. 465 00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:35,440 That guy is ripped and he could play tight end 466 00:26:35,599 --> 00:26:37,920 or be an edge rusher, I think on any college 467 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,480 football team he wanted to. And he had season highs 468 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,839 against Colorado's Saturday sixteen points, six rebounds and had the 469 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,440 play of the day on Sports Center's Top Ten with 470 00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:53,039 an in your face dunk on Colorado's Sebastian ron Cheek 471 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,759 that just brought the house down at our arena, Desert 472 00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:01,559 Financial Arena on Saturdays. Those are some of the players 473 00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:05,279 that you'll be seeing tonight for Arizona State. The key 474 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,400 is that if the sun Devils can make shots. I 475 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,240 mean they for most of the year were pretty good. 476 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,200 They were like in the thirty eight to thirty nine 477 00:27:12,279 --> 00:27:15,119 percent range as a three point shooting team, but that 478 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:19,519 shooting percentage has dipped to thirty five percent heading into 479 00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:23,519 tonight's game. They're fourteenth and out of sixteen teams in 480 00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:26,799 the Big twelve and three point shooting percentage, and they've 481 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,680 just got to be able to knock down the open 482 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,039 looks when they get them to have any remote chance 483 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,880 to pull off the upset here tonight. 484 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: What percentage of the roster was retained from last year 485 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:39,880 to this year? 486 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:45,039 Speaker 1: They're an a issue. Sun Devils have one returning scholarship player, 487 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:51,000 Trevor Best Guard, who probably will not see a lot 488 00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:53,599 of action. We'll play a little bit. And Trevor joined 489 00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:57,079 the team last year at mid season. He went to 490 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,480 the same high school in North Carolina as a SU's 491 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,200 star recruit from a year ago, forward Jaden Quaintance, who's 492 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:09,720 now at Kentucky. But Trevor is the only returning starting player. 493 00:28:09,759 --> 00:28:12,440 They do have one walk on guard, a kid named 494 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,480 Quentin McCoy. Who's back with the team this year, but 495 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,960 every other player I'll just go down my score sheet 496 00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:22,359 here for Arizona State, they're top rotation players. Moe Odam 497 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,640 transfer from Pepperdine, Bryce Ford, a guard from the Phoenix 498 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,279 area by the way, transfer from Toledo. Masamba Jop comes 499 00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:34,799 over from Senegal. Santiago Truet. Their leading rebounder is a 500 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:38,480 transfer from the University of San Diego, Andrea Grebovich, who 501 00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:41,440 is a six to eleven Serbian wing or. He's from 502 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,759 actually Montenegro. He is a European in his first year here. 503 00:28:46,039 --> 00:28:49,160 Pig Johnson a transfer from the NAIA. They have a 504 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,119 freshman guard from Belgium named Noah Mayhusen who's a pretty 505 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,720 solid all around player. Alan mckayba I told you about 506 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,400 from Oakland University. Marcus Adams last year bridged sixteen points 507 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,640 a game at cal State Northridge, and he has been 508 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,480 slowed by injuries this year and we're still waiting for 509 00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:10,480 him to become the player that he was a year 510 00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:14,160 ago at Northridge. And they also have a true freshman, 511 00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:17,440 Cash Polk, who won't play tonight because he is injured, 512 00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:20,279 and a couple of other newcomers but like I said, 513 00:29:20,279 --> 00:29:22,880 it's almost an entirely new team that Bobby Hurley's had 514 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,519 to put together, and it just seems to be an 515 00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:29,839 annual ritual, you know, where you're just almost reconstructing a 516 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,960 roster year in and year out. And it's not just 517 00:29:32,039 --> 00:29:36,240 Arizona State. It's a lot of schools in college basketball 518 00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:39,559 right now. But yeah, one one returning player from a 519 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,839 year ago. BYU fans might actually remember the name Trevor 520 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,000 Best because Trevor actually scored eighteen points against the Cougars 521 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:50,480 in Tempe last February twenty sixth, which still ranks as 522 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,200 his career scoring high, you know, in that game against 523 00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:56,160 BYU at our place a year ago. 524 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wonder like I was stocked with coaches, 525 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:05,559 like many of the coaches that coach ball, right, football, basketball, 526 00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:08,200 they get into it because, you know, they love to 527 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,960 get back to the kids, they love the sport, all 528 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,400 those things, and then you get through it, right and 529 00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:15,240 something's changed about the business of it. For a play 530 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,279 by play guy like yourself, I imagine you've grown fond 531 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,559 over the last almost thirty years of getting to know 532 00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:24,759 the players year in and year out, developing relationships long 533 00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:28,160 term relationships with these guys, re interviewing them pregame, post game, 534 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,799 seeing them develop, et cetera. We're losing a little bit 535 00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:34,440 of that in this era. Has that been at all 536 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,640 impactful for you? 537 00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:41,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is. It's definitely. You're getting different 538 00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:44,680 groups in and out. You know, just talk about you know, 539 00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:48,119 the guy who was my broadcast partner, Kyle Dodd. Kyle 540 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,039 played at Arizona State as a point guard from nineteen 541 00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:53,880 ninety nine to two thousand and three, and he used 542 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,720 to come on the post game show with me, you know, 543 00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:58,480 when he'd play well, and he used to joke around. 544 00:30:58,599 --> 00:31:00,799 He said, someday I'm going to be your broad cast partner, 545 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,960 and ten years later he was. And now we're like 546 00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:07,799 fifteen years together as you know, a play by play 547 00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:12,240 guy in color analyst. And you talk about this year's team. 548 00:31:12,279 --> 00:31:14,519 One thing about I'll say about this year's team that 549 00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:18,400 Bobby Hurley's put together. There are some really, really good 550 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:24,119 kids and likable players on this team. I think this 551 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:29,119 team is much more connected individually than last year's team was. 552 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,759 At Arizona State. Last year, the Sun Devils had some 553 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,880 really highly tauted recruits. Jaden Quainton's of five star centers 554 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,480 now Kentucky Joson Sannon a five star guard, good shooter 555 00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:44,880 who's now at Saint John's. But the team just didn't 556 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,359 seem very connected. You know, internally, this year's group is 557 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,200 and there are a good bunch of kids. I remember 558 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,559 the first practice I was able to go to because 559 00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:59,240 of my football obligations was in late October, and I 560 00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:01,559 went to watch them practice one day just to kind 561 00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:05,400 of start familiarizing myself with the team. And after practice, 562 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,200 Bobby had every one of those players come over and 563 00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:12,279 introduce themselves individually to me. And even to this day, 564 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,039 like last night, we got to the hotel and Alan Mukayba, 565 00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:18,079 the kid I told you about with the rip body 566 00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:20,799 of the Oakland transfer, he came up to all of 567 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,599 us and you know, there's a group of seven of 568 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,880 us in the travel party that are unable to fly 569 00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:28,839 with the team because of the smaller size of the 570 00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:32,720 team playing only they start charter a thirty seater and 571 00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:35,119 there's about seven of us who go commercial. So we 572 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,160 arrived at the hotel separately, but when they got back 573 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,519 from a shoot around, they came over and you know, 574 00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:42,839 Alan comes up to every each each one of us 575 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,079 and slaps hands or you know, shakes hands, gives a 576 00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:49,680 hug and says, good to see you guys. And pretty 577 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,920 much all the players on this team are the same way. 578 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,759 They're they're really really good kids and very well connected. 579 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,079 And that's why you'd really like to see them have 580 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,680 some success this year, because they've been fun to be 581 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,440 with and be you know, travel with on the road 582 00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:06,359 and uh and you know, I wish I could have 583 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,519 been with them in Hawaii for many reasons obviously, but 584 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,440 was not able to make that trip. But you know, 585 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,119 they put on a good showing there and hopefully they 586 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,240 can you know, find their footing as Big twelve play 587 00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:21,880 unfolds and maybe pull off an upset or two and 588 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,599 kind of get back into this thing. But they've been 589 00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:26,440 they've been a fun group to be a part of. 590 00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:29,279 But yeah, I mean that's one of the byproducts of 591 00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:31,920 this day and age in college sports. These teams as 592 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,680 they are constituted, they changed dramatically year to year, and 593 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,160 it's you know, it's hard to uh, you know, get 594 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,160 a get a you know, to I would imagine, very 595 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,880 hard for fans to bomb with. I mean, like, you know, 596 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,400 just less than a year ago. Sam Levitt, Well, it 597 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,119 could have you know, could have run for the mayor 598 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,519 of Tempe I and cam Scataboo, could have run on 599 00:33:53,559 --> 00:33:56,720 a ticket and gotten elected, you know, to statewide office 600 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,440 in the state of Arizona. And now you know, Sam 601 00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:04,240 Levitt is a persona no grata. You know, he he's gone, 602 00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:06,720 he's in the transfer portal. He's going to play elsewhere. 603 00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:10,119 And you know, we hardly knew ye Sam. You know, 604 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,199 it's he was in a year and in and out, 605 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,920 and that's just that's just the way it is. And 606 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,079 college athletics. It's not necessarily anything bad about Sam Levitt, 607 00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:22,280 It's just, you know, that's the way it is. 608 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,559 Speaker 2: Tim Healy, Ladies and gentlemen, the voice of the Arizona 609 00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:28,320 State Sun Devils. Good luck on your call, not that 610 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,519 you need it, but if they want to tune in, 611 00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:32,840 if our listeners want to tune in to you, how 612 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,039 do they do such well? 613 00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:38,199 Speaker 1: In the Phoenix area, we're broadcasting kta AR is the 614 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,119 biggest radio station in the state of Arizona. They have 615 00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:44,639 several different signals and tonight we are in ESPN six 616 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,039 twenty am. But I do believe they also have the 617 00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:52,519 Arizona Sports app. If you want to, you know, dial 618 00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:56,360 us up that way, give us a listen, And Kyle 619 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,599 and I love working together. We have a good time. 620 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,719 Kyle's terrific analyst has one of the best senses of 621 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,599 humor of anybody I've ever been around. He does great 622 00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:10,679 impersonations as well, And I hopefully we are a good 623 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,840 listen game in and game out, and I think we're 624 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,199 always you know, fair and objective about our opponents as well. 625 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,440 We recognize good play when we see it, no matter 626 00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:22,960 who's making the good play. So if you get a chance, 627 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,119 give us a listen, we'd love to have you listen. 628 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,559 Listen to us, and we wish byu all the best 629 00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:31,880 of this season. Like not that they need any added 630 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,599 luck from us, because they are an enormously talented team 631 00:35:35,679 --> 00:35:37,360 and they're going to go far this year. 632 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,159 Speaker 2: I'm sure enjoy your time at Pro Tim. We appreciate 633 00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:41,840 you man. We'll see at the game. 634 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,599 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Thank you, appreciate it. 635 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,119 Speaker 2: Diego. That's another Folks segment brought to you by Bresa 636 00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:49,079 Cleaning Services Briess and makes it a breeze to keep 637 00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:51,559 your house clean. 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This is Cougar Sports on one 645 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,079 O three nine ninety eight point three eight SP. 646 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,599 Speaker 3: Big twelve football. 647 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 2: Miss You. 648 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,079 Speaker 3: Got some new sheriffs in town, but they better be careful. 649 00:36:26,639 --> 00:36:29,119 So I'm been around here for a while and they 650 00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:32,000 might learn a thing or two. You see that. 651 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:34,639 Speaker 1: There's a storm. 652 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:42,599 Speaker 3: Broad You're not scared, are you? You're always ready, ready 653 00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:48,599 to go Big twelve football. 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And most people that visit Bryce Cannon 665 00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:23,320 are not from the state of Utah, which is crazy. 666 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,519 Most of them are national and even international visitors. Let's 667 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,199 change that and enjoy the beauty of the earth here 668 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,360 along the Wassatch Front, just a hop, skipping and jumping 669 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,039 away from about three hour three and a half hours 670 00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:38,719 away from Utah County. Book your staycation today and have 671 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,280 a great time making members with friends and family members. 672 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,639 Let's stock some Big twelve football with Big twelve Insider 673 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,880 also hosts of his own show, The Drake Toll Show 674 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,960 on Westwood One. We got Drake Toll on the line. Drake, 675 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:51,679 how the heck are you? 676 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 4: Man? I did what any twenty four year old does, 677 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,519 what they're going through an early crisis and I got 678 00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:02,679 a second dog to so monumental day to be on 679 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:03,880 your show. Thanks for having me. 680 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 2: Well is it now like I I in my single life? Okay? 681 00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:12,519 I dated a lot of different types of ladies, okay, 682 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,920 and one of them was very much an animal lover 683 00:38:16,159 --> 00:38:20,000 and not just animal and like she she loved stray animals. 684 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,599 She wanted to go buy pound animals, she wanted to 685 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,960 like like pure bred animals. No, no, no, I didn't 686 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,559 want anything to do with it, but like all of 687 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:31,880 the animals on the earth, she wanted to bring into 688 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,000 the home. Is that you uh? 689 00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: You know? 690 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,639 Speaker 4: Indeed, I didn't think it was going to be me. 691 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,320 But here I sit with two dogs at my feet. 692 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:47,239 One of them is a wonderful, beautiful, paid for Australian 693 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,880 Poodle and he is the single strangest dog you could 694 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,079 ever draw up. And the other is a rescue the 695 00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:57,440 rescue today, miss Sunday, and she's a Shepherd mixed, which 696 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,679 I don't really know what that means. She has no shots. 697 00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:04,199 And so yeah, Ben, I am getting the rescue stray 698 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,679 thing in my house. And when I'm picking speak out 699 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,360 of my scalp in two days, I will regret all 700 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:09,679 of this. 701 00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 2: I love it. You got a big heart and a 702 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:19,400 big mind full of Big twelve content. Right now we're 703 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,199 getting into the college football transfer portal chaos and the 704 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,719 Big twelve, especially Texas Tech they're making freaking moves right like, 705 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,920 immediately they go out and get their quarterback that they 706 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,320 want they've had their eye on for a while, and 707 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,719 they're picking up wide receivers. It seems like Texas Tech 708 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,840 knows exactly what they want. They fell short. They made 709 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,840 its all look bad. For the love of all that 710 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,599 peat we had, all this equity built up, Texas Tech 711 00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:46,599 is supposed to be something great and they fell flat 712 00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:49,039 on their face because you know, they just didn't have 713 00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:51,920 a quarterback. Give me your eval of what happened, why 714 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,000 it happened, and what Texas Tech is doing now. 715 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, Texas Tech is gonna go full Pelton metal. And 716 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,920 the biggest piece of why they're having such early success 717 00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:05,800 is the money. Sure that that's one thing, but the 718 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,360 other they have an entire department with their football program 719 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,679 set up for recruiting and the transfer portal. They've got 720 00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:16,400 coaches whose full time job is to work the portal, 721 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,639 work recruiting, and do it even in season or in 722 00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:22,360 December where these kids are entering the transfer portal. That 723 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,920 is such a big key to what Texas Tech has 724 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,559 seen success through the idea that we're not just a 725 00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:33,280 bunch of football coaches. We're also salespeople, recruiters. We have 726 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,559 to sell the idea of winning at Texas Tech to 727 00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:39,119 these student athletes who coming out of the transfer portal. 728 00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:41,960 And so they've attacked us for a long time. And 729 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:48,039 one could argue tampering, Oh you're tampering. Than tampering, your tampering. 730 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,000 We're all tampering. It's kind of part of the of 731 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,760 the system now because it's such a broken system without 732 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,599 any guardrails. What Texas Tech is doing is not illegal. 733 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,079 They're doing what everybody in the SEC has done forever, 734 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,840 and everybody the SEC is especially doing now in the 735 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,519 transferport era. Texas Tech has big money. They're going after 736 00:41:05,519 --> 00:41:07,599 the big names, the big recruits that land of Brendon 737 00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:10,519 soaresby at their quarterback gave five star. And the question 738 00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:14,360 becomes Ken the guy who was seven and five at 739 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,440 Cincinnati this past season walking to a Texas Tech system 740 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,119 and be better than Baron Morton. It needs to be 741 00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:22,639 significantly better than Baron Morton. Now, as we saw the 742 00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:26,440 Red Raiders score zero points hit their college football playoff 743 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,599 game against Oregon. But I've also heard from a lot 744 00:41:28,639 --> 00:41:31,639 of cover from coaches men that have told me like 745 00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:35,280 Big Twelve coaches that have said, I just I feel 746 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,360 like Brendan Sowarsby isn't a five million dollars quarterback, And 747 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,280 I'm not sure if they didn't just get another revert 748 00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:47,199 Baron Morton. There's a lot of there's a tumultuous air 749 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,639 around the pickup of of Brendan Sworesby an intra conference 750 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,199 addition for Texas Tech, we'll see if the pays off 751 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,559 at that price tag pays off for Cody Campbell and 752 00:41:56,599 --> 00:41:57,239 Joey McGuire. 753 00:41:58,159 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 2: We know Texas Tech is at the top of the 754 00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:03,639 food chain in the Big Twelve. Who are you like 755 00:42:03,679 --> 00:42:07,239 your number two, number three, number four teams right now? 756 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,639 Heading into next season, we know that there's gonna be 757 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,599 plenty of movement in the portal. There's gonna be some 758 00:42:14,679 --> 00:42:18,280 retention efforts made by all these Big twelve teams. But 759 00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:21,639 who are like your early favorites outside of Texas Tech 760 00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:23,920 to once again compete for a Big Twelve title. 761 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, as long as bear Bachmeyer doesn't break the 762 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,320 honor come, Let's be very clear. As long as Bear 763 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,000 Brockmeyer keeps it between the navigational booies, I think with 764 00:42:39,159 --> 00:42:41,960 the Isaiah Glaster News and him coming back to BYU. 765 00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:49,280 The Cougars are station at number two behind Texas tecond 766 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,559 the Big twelve Conference, as they should be. Utah would 767 00:42:51,639 --> 00:42:53,880 have been free. You could have argued for two with 768 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,960 Devin Dan Pierre. And obviously he is still expected as 769 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,679 of right now to come back. The hope is that 770 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,519 he will come back. I think they're they're down a 771 00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:03,119 few notches with Kyle Woodingham. The way that situation unfolded 772 00:43:03,159 --> 00:43:05,800 in Salt Lake and everything I've heard, it's not a 773 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,719 great time. I mean, Utah is going to put its 774 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,239 head down and try to operate without half its coaching 775 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,960 staff from last year, and it's head man, the Hall 776 00:43:12,039 --> 00:43:14,280 of Fame head coach Kyle Whittingham. It'll be different, though, 777 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,199 I mean, there are still big question marks of what 778 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,239 they're going to do in twenty twenty six and how 779 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,159 that how that program looks without Whittingham at the helms 780 00:43:21,159 --> 00:43:23,079 for the first time in a couple of decades. It's 781 00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:26,159 Texas Tech one, it's BYU two, and that third spot 782 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,199 is pretty open. But right now, oddly enough, I'm leaning 783 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,119 in on what Oklahoma. 784 00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 2: State is doing. 785 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 4: They took what Kurt Signetti did from James Madison to 786 00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:39,079 Indiana and they're replicating that. But with North Texas they 787 00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:42,480 bring it Aaron Eric Morris and Eric Morris hit the 788 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,239 ground running recruiting his own guys. It guts, I mean, 789 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,800 it absolutely guts that program in Denton, but it builds 790 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,639 in Stillwater and they've got a top three transfer portal 791 00:43:51,639 --> 00:43:54,400 class right now because of what they've built off the 792 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,559 backbone of North Texas. So I liked. I liked what 793 00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:00,719 Oklahoma State is doing in the office season. They'll have 794 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,000 a quick turnaround there if things continue in the training 795 00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:07,440 in this direction in Arizona State. To me Dillingham keeping 796 00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:11,400 him in town, reinvesting into football West Virginia year number two, 797 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,159 I'm really excited for year number two of Rich Rodriguez. 798 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,119 There's a Willie Fritz Houston. We forget that team. We're 799 00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:20,480 looking at a ten wins Houston team. I see three 800 00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:23,039 or four Big twelve squad that are all competing for 801 00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:25,920 that spot right behind Texas second EYU. 802 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,519 Speaker 2: Is there a most underrated Big twelve team right now? 803 00:44:28,519 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 4: In your mind, still has to be Houston, really still 804 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,119 has to be Houston, and nationally the most underrated Big 805 00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:38,280 twelve team is BYU when you consider that they were 806 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,400 left out of the College Football Playoff. But I've said 807 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,639 it a million times in my show that eleven and 808 00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:45,199 one team in the Power four being held out when 809 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:50,000 we have these these arbitrary, subjective metrics were putting teams in. 810 00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:52,880 We will look back in five years and say, oh, 811 00:44:53,079 --> 00:44:55,920 that was a precedent. We did not want to set 812 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,559 the president at eleven and one Power four team can 813 00:44:58,599 --> 00:45:00,719 be held out of the College Football Playoff without any 814 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:05,960 accountability to the committee. That is bad. That is the 815 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:11,679 definition of overlooked, disrespected, absolutely spit on by the college 816 00:45:11,679 --> 00:45:14,480 football world, and BYU was subject to that. So no 817 00:45:14,599 --> 00:45:18,159 doubt they are the most underrated nationally when you look 818 00:45:18,159 --> 00:45:20,719 at the committee that did not put them in despite 819 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,920 them being one of the most disturbing twelve teams in 820 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,840 the country. And then past that, it's Houston and Willie Fritz. 821 00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:29,559 They were dominant defensively for a large portion of twenty 822 00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:33,000 twenty five. This pass ball was a really good fall. 823 00:45:33,079 --> 00:45:36,199 And then they competed against LSU in their bowl game 824 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,480 to cap of off the season, winning a game against 825 00:45:38,519 --> 00:45:41,679 an SEC team that they allowed a fourteen point cushion 826 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,519 two in the beginning of that contest. Houston was incredibly 827 00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:48,199 oppressive this year. As long as Willie Fritz has still 828 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,920 got it going on, as long as he is still 829 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,480 the head coach for the Cougars, they've got a shot 830 00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:55,000 to win any and all game that they are in 831 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,559 love what he's building ten this season. But you wouldn't 832 00:45:58,599 --> 00:46:00,199 know what if you turned your TV on, because no 833 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,360 one talking about the ten and three? Who's Houston? Couger's 834 00:46:04,639 --> 00:46:04,960 Give me. 835 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,599 Speaker 2: Your theories as to why Bay was left out the 836 00:46:08,679 --> 00:46:10,760 last two years of the college football Playoff? Do you 837 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,079 just chalk it up simplistically to Big twelve bias? They 838 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,519 you know, and they just you know, they're not as 839 00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:18,159 big of a brand. What do you chalk it up to? 840 00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 4: This is a question that I genuinely believe goes deeper 841 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,239 than that. I think we have to go back to 842 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,840 LaBelle Edwards in the mid eighties. 843 00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:30,119 Speaker 1: There. 844 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 4: Okay, let's go back in pinpoint when BYU was at 845 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,639 its best in college football and the national championship year 846 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,960 was certainly it, but the rhetoric nationally after that was 847 00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:49,599 never again BYU. How do we keep BYU from being 848 00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:51,840 a part of this again? We cannot be giving national 849 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,039 championships to BYU because they are perceive the little man. 850 00:46:56,119 --> 00:46:58,719 They are this perceived underdog that we don't want to 851 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,280 consider a stalwart or powerhouse in our sport. And then 852 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,920 after that there is a history the next couple of 853 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,039 decades of leaving BYU out that there's the Ball Commission, 854 00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:13,719 The Bowl Alliance is created because of BYU getting left 855 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,840 out of a New Year's Day Bowl. And then there's 856 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,119 the BCS, which is in essence almost created because of 857 00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:23,960 BYU trying. And it's the second of the VCS. Okay, well, 858 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,800 we finally figured it out. We can put the most 859 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,599 deserving teams in the ballgame to deserve to go to 860 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,400 and pretty immediately BYU deserves to be a Sugar Bowl team, 861 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,599 a Rose Bowl team in one of these bigger bowls. 862 00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:37,800 They get left out. Again. The goalposts continue to move, 863 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,440 specifically for one school, and it is BYU, and those 864 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,400 goal posts are being away from the university, away from 865 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,880 the football proger, away from opportunities. So I could be 866 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,320 the crazy person. I can be the guy in the 867 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,320 tinfoil hat who's going back in the mid eighties and 868 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,039 saying there's an underlying reason why BYU has been left 869 00:47:54,039 --> 00:47:56,679 out the last few years, have been disrespected the last 870 00:47:56,679 --> 00:47:59,880 two years. But it's no coincidence when you look at 871 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:04,039 the way that college football has historically created this program. 872 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:08,119 It is not an accident. It is purposeful, and it 873 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,679 is the reason that BYU was once again left out 874 00:48:11,079 --> 00:48:16,119 for whether it's religious discrimination, whether it's it's uh discrimination 875 00:48:16,199 --> 00:48:18,840 against the brand itself, whether it's that that feeling that 876 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,480 you got when Novelle Edwards won the national championship and 877 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,320 the big wigs, the big dogs, the Michigan's of the world, thought, Nope, 878 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,039 that should have been us. That's not a word we 879 00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:30,400 can give to the little guy BYU. Whether it's any 880 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,119 of those things, I'm not sure if you can pinpoint 881 00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:35,880 a single one, but you have to understand this is 882 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,719 more than just twenty twenty five. This goes back decades 883 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,639 of BYU being disrespected. It is a trend. It is 884 00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:46,239 a very very bad trend in college football. 885 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 2: Drake Toll Lockdown Big twelve also a host the host 886 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,599 of his Westwood One show, Drake Toll Show here on 887 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,719 esp and the Fan talking some Big twelve football, you know, 888 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,639 every single year. I mean, we're in two thousand six, 889 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:05,320 we're gonna have another shakeup of the college football world, 890 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,239 probably in twenty twenty nine, twenty thirty. We're gonna see 891 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,800 maybe an expansion of the playoff of the next year 892 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,639 or two. We'll see how that works itself. Out here 893 00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:18,880 in you Thah, there's always talk about the team, the 894 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,199 next team that's gonna get called up to the big leagues, 895 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,880 the Big Ten and the SEC. Now, I personally think 896 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,360 that the SEC has been built their brand, their equity 897 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,519 over the last thirty years has been built off of 898 00:49:31,639 --> 00:49:34,320 bag men and cheating, and now we're seeing kind of 899 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:40,599 the realization of a free market college football capitalistic economy 900 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,760 even in the playing field, now that we can all 901 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,639 compete at the same level and not have college football 902 00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:52,000 cartels and cabals limiting the access, et cetera. But give 903 00:49:52,039 --> 00:49:55,639 me your thought on the next maybe domino to fall, 904 00:49:56,039 --> 00:49:59,760 Give me your thoughts on maybe the next team two 905 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:01,920 called up to the big leagues if we do have 906 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:07,199 somewhat of a power to conglomerate that does come about. 907 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,519 I don't think it will, but it could give me 908 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,000 a few of your thoughts on some of those topics here. 909 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think Ben that as we moved thirty 910 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,840 hit nail on the head of the timeline. Here we'll 911 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,719 start talking about what clems in Florida State do. We're 912 00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:26,199 as a country, as college football fans starting to forget 913 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,760 that those two schools sued the ACC and half of 914 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,800 that conference that we're going to leave if something does 915 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,079 not change in the wake of that. That's when cal 916 00:50:33,159 --> 00:50:37,320 and Stanford SMU came in and they went to seventeen teams. 917 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,480 Some people are going to point to Notre Dame as 918 00:50:39,519 --> 00:50:42,039 the north star of where we're going, where this is headed, 919 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,239 and what conference they join. I don't see it that way. 920 00:50:45,679 --> 00:50:48,960 I personally believe once those two schools leave the ACC, 921 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,119 what it's now opened the door for. And this is 922 00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:54,320 the same thing I've heard from multiple people now, is 923 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,599 Brett Yormark to look at the ACC as so inferior. 924 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,719 He can pick apart the ps he wants and build 925 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,920 up the Big twelve in esseence creating a power three 926 00:51:05,199 --> 00:51:07,360 with the SEC and the Big ten. That is the goal. 927 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,119 Brett sees it coming. He is a businessman. He knows 928 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,800 when the ACC loses its power brokers and they're still 929 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,920 power Well, they were bad at football this year, Florida State, 930 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,360 and yet they're still power brokers. They have the brands, 931 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,159 they have the money. When you have the money, you 932 00:51:20,199 --> 00:51:22,880 control everything. When they exit the Big Twelve, that's an 933 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,760 opportunity to poach. Now, there will be Big twelve schools 934 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,639 three years, so we're getting close to this three years 935 00:51:27,679 --> 00:51:31,239 from now that say we want an opportunity somewhere else, 936 00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:34,360 and those schools will be Texas Tech, they will be Utah, 937 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,599 they will be BYU, they'll be the universities that invest 938 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,360 the most. But the problem is is we don't have 939 00:51:41,519 --> 00:51:43,960 a brand like Florida State that can lose for ten 940 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,840 straight years and still be again a power broker in 941 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,599 college football. What you will have to do out of 942 00:51:50,679 --> 00:51:53,679 this league is win consistently. If you're Utah and you 943 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,119 want to go to the Big Ten, if you're BYU 944 00:51:55,159 --> 00:51:56,519 when you want to go to the Big Ten, if 945 00:51:56,519 --> 00:51:58,199 you're Texas Tech and you want to go to the 946 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,239 SEC or the Big Ten, you have to continue to 947 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,800 win Big Twelve championships, play in the Big Twell title Game, 948 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,400 go to the College Football Playoff, and win games. Otherwise, 949 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,480 the Big Ten doesn't want to take a slut of 950 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,519 the Big Twelve that's never been to the dance, that's 951 00:52:10,519 --> 00:52:12,119 never won a Game of the Dance, and can't compete 952 00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:14,239 for a national championship. That's not their goal. It's not 953 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,000 what they did in adding the team that they added 954 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,719 in the Pac Twell. They want to add big money 955 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,119 and big money that had competed in the last decade 956 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,159 or had massive brands. The Big Twelve, where it doesn't 957 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,920 have brands. Where it lacks brands, makes up for in 958 00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:29,320 playing the game and the way that we used to 959 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,320 love college football. The Big teve is great at that, 960 00:52:31,679 --> 00:52:34,880 but it doesn't always sell the tablet fell. People want 961 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,679 stories from the big schools, and if the Big twelve 962 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,000 is going to build those, we need consistent winning elite 963 00:52:41,039 --> 00:52:44,760 teams at the top. BYU Texas Tech and now even 964 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,119 after one year of rebuilding its brand in football, Utah 965 00:52:48,159 --> 00:52:50,320 come to mind, those three schools will be the next 966 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,239 dominoes to go if somebody from the Big tal gets 967 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,360 the call up to the Big two conferences. 968 00:52:56,039 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 2: Drake Paul, Ladies and gentlemen, I do think the Big 969 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,199 twelve sure is bright. 970 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 1: Uh. 971 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 2: I wish the Big twelve maybe BULLRECERD was a little 972 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:10,119 bit better, but I think they've showcased decently well. Unfortunately 973 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,199 Texas Tech kind of fell flat on their face. Hopefully 974 00:53:13,039 --> 00:53:14,719 they bounced back, and I think they will. I think 975 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,719 they'll be ready to go uh this this next season 976 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,440 and we'll probably be the bell of the ball in 977 00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:23,400 the Big twelve going forward with all that filthy luker 978 00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:26,519 cash that they have backing of that that oil money, 979 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,000 that oil money, that crude. Baby. I know you're a 980 00:53:30,039 --> 00:53:31,360 Texas guy, you know about that. 981 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,639 Speaker 4: Texas any mountains, Yeah. 982 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 2: No, they have, they have. We have silicon slopes. We 983 00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:41,320 got that going for us. We have the tech world bidus. 984 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,559 But black black Gold is a little bit more filthy, 985 00:53:45,559 --> 00:53:52,400 if you know what I mean. Drake told ladies and gentlemen, 986 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,519 I appreciate him joining us. 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Head on, all right, leave 997 00:54:30,199 --> 00:54:34,079 out Marnie Robin. All right, it's the moment we all 998 00:54:34,119 --> 00:54:34,880 have been waiting for. 999 00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 3: Ben. 1000 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 2: This is perfetxample. 1001 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,320 Speaker 5: YU is working to finalize the deal to promote Kelly 1002 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,639 Fopinga to defensive coordinator and play call. He's been promoted 1003 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,599 with special teams coordinator. 1004 00:54:47,039 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 2: So there you go. 1005 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 5: We've been waiting for it, Ben h for a long time. Okay, 1006 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,559 here's a finish off was clicking on the ESPN app 1007 00:54:52,599 --> 00:54:55,760 I apologize. He's been promoted from special teams coordinator slash 1008 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,840 defensive ends coach. He's coached two stints at BYU two thousand, 1009 00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:03,519 ain one to fifteen and twenty twenty two through president. 1010 00:55:03,519 --> 00:55:05,159 He takes over for Jill who left to become the 1011 00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:08,280 defensive coordinator at Michigan. But Pinka spent twenty sixteen at 1012 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,639 twenty one at Virginia. He's a BAU graduate and former 1013 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,679 star linebacker. There it is been We've been waiting, and 1014 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,000 it has been announced. 1015 00:55:17,039 --> 00:55:17,519 Speaker 1: There we go. 1016 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,280 Speaker 2: Love this higher well deserved I'll keep on saying, there's 1017 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,440 special teams has been the best unit over the last 1018 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,280 three years. Year every year, better than the offense, better 1019 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,039 than the defense. He's been the special teams coordinator. He's 1020 00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:40,800 a former BYU great, He's recruited, recruited, coach to developed 1021 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:48,199 arguably the best defensive players in BYU football history, Kyle 1022 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:55,079 Vanoy and Fred Warner. Who's better? Jason Buck is up 1023 00:55:55,079 --> 00:55:59,559 there too, right, but in the modern era, the best 1024 00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:05,800 defense defensive player, the best defensive players in BYU football history. Okay, 1025 00:56:06,639 --> 00:56:17,480 we're recruited, signed, developed, coached by Kelly Papinga. That alone 1026 00:56:17,519 --> 00:56:19,599 is enough for me to say, Look, this guy deserves 1027 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:24,599 an opportunity. He's been a co DC a Virginia PU 1028 00:56:24,639 --> 00:56:29,920 four institution. He's recruited around the country. Phenomenal recruiter, phenomenal developer, 1029 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,800 puts in the work, and he's loyal, strong and true, 1030 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:43,039 loves BYU, loves Provo and I mean I was his 1031 00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:45,559 teammate for three years. Yeah, there's gonna be some bias, 1032 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:51,119 but every day, Bro, we competed on the scout team. 1033 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,840 Every day we were getting in fights with the offense. 1034 00:56:55,599 --> 00:56:59,079 Every day, we bawled out in two thousand and six. 1035 00:56:59,159 --> 00:57:02,119 He should have been a star. He's a rotational guy. 1036 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,280 Should have been a start. I don't want to get 1037 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,000 into it, but he should have been a guy that 1038 00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:10,440 was starting next to me in my opinion. Okay, every 1039 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:15,639 single play and the following year he did move up 1040 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,400 and was the starter at mike linebacker, replacing Cameron Jensen 1041 00:57:19,519 --> 00:57:24,920 and a team captain, led with integrity, led with by example, 1042 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,679 and balled out for Brigham play in the NFL. He's 1043 00:57:28,719 --> 00:57:32,880 got the NFL pedigree as well. Comes from a fantastic 1044 00:57:33,079 --> 00:57:36,639 football family. You hear Brady Papingall on the show every 1045 00:57:36,679 --> 00:57:40,960 single week. I love this higher. I think it's the 1046 00:57:41,079 --> 00:57:45,639 right higher. This guy has grit, tenacity, energy, he's young, 1047 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:50,079 he's full of vigor and vim and he's gonna be 1048 00:57:50,159 --> 00:57:55,119 great guys. And this also, okay, this allows for the 1049 00:57:55,159 --> 00:58:01,280 continuity in chemistry and culture of the defense that has 1050 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,639 been built over the last few years. You like the scheme. 1051 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:10,559 This is a brainchild of a conglomerateive coaches. This is 1052 00:58:10,599 --> 00:58:12,280 not just This is not just. This is not a 1053 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,920 j Hill defense. I'm sorry. This is not the Kyle 1054 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,360 Whenyham defense. This is not just the Kilani Satake defense. 1055 00:58:18,679 --> 00:58:29,199 This is an aggregate conglomerate of Jay Kelly, Kilanie Kyle, Gary, Anderson, Gennaro, 1056 00:58:30,119 --> 00:58:36,960 justin Enna. Everybody's contributing this last year seventy thirty. Okay, 1057 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:41,320 you saw thirty fronts versus forty fronts. If it was 1058 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,199 a true just J. Hill defense, right, he probably would 1059 00:58:44,239 --> 00:58:47,280 have been a forty front the entire game, the entire time. 1060 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:54,519 Four to five, Nickel, Go back and check tape. That's 1061 00:58:54,559 --> 00:58:56,920 not what I saw. That's not what we saw. We 1062 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,480 saw thirty front We saw stand up outside linebacker. We 1063 00:58:59,519 --> 00:59:03,440 saw Jack Kelly on the edge. Two point. We saw 1064 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,960 a new c the news has got the juice. 1065 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:06,559 Speaker 1: Two point. 1066 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 2: We saw a plethora of different player personnel implementations. You 1067 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:21,559 saw a decent amount of Nickel, yes, right, but not 1068 00:59:21,559 --> 00:59:27,039 not just the the the Coylewiteham lineage four two five. Sorry, 1069 00:59:27,079 --> 00:59:32,079 that's not it. Not it. K Pop congratulations. K Pop 1070 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,719 has got the opportunity. Can't wait to see what he 1071 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,280 does with it. Here in twenty twenty six and beyond, 1072 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,639 we'll go to break, don't go anywhere. Still plenty to 1073 00:59:41,679 --> 00:59:46,039 get to. On a Wednesday, January seventh edition of Cougar Sports, 1074 00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:47,840 here on your Uti es Ben ready on Network one 1075 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,119 three nine ninety eight point three