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Speaker 2: Me know fin. My name's Andy Hall. I'm from the
Speaker 2: southwestern port of Virginia regionally from the town of Troutville
Speaker 2: and Grayson County next to Mount Rogers, but I've lived
Speaker 2: in within twenty miles of that area all my life.
Speaker 2: Just turned forty eight, and I like to hunt and fish.
Speaker 2: What I do is spend quite a bit of time outdoors,
Speaker 2: not as nearly as much as I'd like to, and
Speaker 2: that's kind of the order I start having my encounters.
Speaker 2: But the very first encounter I had was when I
Speaker 2: was very young. My family lived up on the side
Speaker 2: of the mountain and we was away from people. With
Speaker 2: the closest neighbor that lived permanent. It was a little
Speaker 2: bit more a mile away. There was another residence, but
Speaker 2: they was there just every so often or whatever, so
Speaker 2: we were pretty much isolated. And the road going into
Speaker 2: the house is just to get the old mountain roads.
Speaker 2: You needed to four wheel drive, definitely in winter time,
Speaker 2: sometimes during other parts of the year. But back to
Speaker 2: my living we didn't even have an outhouse we just
Speaker 2: had outdoors and lots and lots of trees around, and
Speaker 2: that's what let the one of my encounters. I got
Speaker 2: up one night to go take a pee, and I
Speaker 2: normally went to the back door because hang gonna lie
Speaker 2: scared of dark. They might be a bear or something
Speaker 2: out there, you know, So I just would walk by
Speaker 2: the kitchen window because I could see in her backyard,
Speaker 2: and you know, didn't see anything. I felt for good.
Speaker 2: So I'm walking by the kitchen window and I noticed
Speaker 2: that I can't see out of it, and I paused
Speaker 2: there at her table and was just looking, and what
Speaker 2: probably felt like two or three minutes probably was all
Speaker 2: over and done in ten seconds. But as I'm staring
Speaker 2: trying to figure out why what's walking the window, why
Speaker 2: I can't steak out of it, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: this thing bent down and was looking at me with
Speaker 2: red glowing eyes, the kind of red glowing eyes like
Speaker 2: a fire coal or something. You know, it would tour
Speaker 2: of orange, you spread. They wasn't like you know, a
Speaker 2: light emitting, you know, not like a flashlight or something
Speaker 2: like hat. It wasn't reflective either. These were more they
Speaker 2: just glowed on their own. And this thing blinked it.
Speaker 2: I probably took a second or two to realize that
Speaker 2: something is looking at me, and I had no idea
Speaker 2: what it was at the time. I just ran and
Speaker 2: screamed back and went and jumped back in bed with
Speaker 2: my grandpa. And you know, my screaming woke every way up,
Speaker 2: and of course, you know, they got up and I'm
Speaker 2: trying to tell them that the devil, that's what I
Speaker 2: started calling at the devil was looking at me through
Speaker 2: the window and everything. And it wasn't that. I think
Speaker 2: they thought I was sleepwalking or having a bad dream.
Speaker 2: Sit for my grandpa. My grandpa is the only one
Speaker 2: that believed that something scared me. Now I don't not
Speaker 2: seeing that he before we believed me about the whole story,
Speaker 2: but he knew I seen something that scared me. And
Speaker 2: so you know, we're out next day looking around see
Speaker 2: if they seeing tracks or whatever, and around the house
Speaker 2: and the guard was to pack down and you know,
Speaker 2: it ain't nothing was going to be track what it was.
Speaker 2: And I'd say this was about the spring of the
Speaker 2: year because we had a big hatfield that had not
Speaker 2: come up yet got tall enough to move. But you know,
Speaker 2: it seemed like the leaves and stuff there on the
Speaker 2: trees a little bit, you know, about this time of year.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe a little bit later on, but I was
Speaker 2: probably about three four years old, I want to say four,
Speaker 2: because I moved. Well, we moved off of that place
Speaker 2: about my or two down the road a couple of
Speaker 2: years later, a year later when I started school, and
Speaker 2: I just remember that. I know this happened before we moved,
Speaker 2: so you know, I'm putting it around about four years old. Well,
Speaker 2: it was either the same year or maybe the next year,
Speaker 2: but at a different time of year. It's probably late July,
Speaker 2: maybe middle August. It was before school started around here.
Speaker 2: Some of my relatives from over in Tavill County and
Speaker 2: down in Howie had come over for a visit and everything,
Speaker 2: staying all night. The hatfield had been moved and the
Speaker 2: hay had been put up, so those kids were out
Speaker 2: there in the field just playing around, tag and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, you know, and it was near to us dark.
Speaker 2: It was light enough in the fields that we've seen,
Speaker 2: but you know, back in the woods and stuff, it
Speaker 2: was getting pretty dark. And we was running around and
Speaker 2: one of the things we do, we find little rocks
Speaker 2: and copen there and watched the bats following them around
Speaker 2: till they almost hit the ground. Of course, the rockwood
Speaker 2: with the batwood. But anyhow, the road coming up to
Speaker 2: the house that at the bottom of a holler, and
Speaker 2: a member of stopping and looking down the holler because
Speaker 2: there was this black object that was shaped sort of
Speaker 2: like a man. I mean, it was man shaped, but
Speaker 2: much bigger than a man. It was it it was
Speaker 2: seemed all black, but it had red eyes. And went
Speaker 2: into just back to being scared, like what's that and
Speaker 2: other kids seeing which way is pointing? And we kind
Speaker 2: of got in a little group and we're all staring
Speaker 2: and looking at it, you know, and once again it
Speaker 2: was blinking. I mean, you know, most of the time
Speaker 2: when you see stuff and everything, they don't blink, you know,
Speaker 2: on TV or whatever. But this thing was blinking its eyes.
Speaker 2: And it stood there for a while and watched us.
Speaker 2: And again, you know, in these scenarios, it feels like,
Speaker 2: you know, minutes gone by, but probably it was no
Speaker 2: more than thirty seconds. And what we noticed was when
Speaker 2: it started to walk off, it was walking towards the fence,
Speaker 2: and thought, okay, you couldn't really tell the size of it.
Speaker 2: But it stepped over the fence that we had, and
Speaker 2: this was a fence for horses and cattle, and so,
Speaker 2: you know, forty eight inches or so tall, and it
Speaker 2: just stepped right over it. I mean, they didn't push
Speaker 2: the barb wire down, they didn't climb up on the
Speaker 2: barb wire. It just stepped over it and it walked
Speaker 2: off down into the dark collar. And you know, it
Speaker 2: was one of them. What was that? And we go
Speaker 2: running back to our parents who were believe it or not,
Speaker 2: sitting outside tea not too far away from us, but
Speaker 2: were they were setting that They couldn't see down into
Speaker 2: the haller in the road, nor could you see from
Speaker 2: the road back up to where they was sitting, so
Speaker 2: it's kind of like a blind spot. And we was
Speaker 2: telling them again there was something down there and done
Speaker 2: this and that. The red blinking eyes and everything, and
Speaker 2: you know, neur all, y'all, y'all pulling their legs or
Speaker 2: y'all sing something. It was somebody or something trying and
Speaker 2: play a trick. That maybe it was one of his
Speaker 2: book of these trying to play a trick on him
Speaker 2: or us, but it wasn't. In both cases, I can't
Speaker 2: give you a really good description because it was dark
Speaker 2: and I didn't get a good description except for when
Speaker 2: it was peeping in the window. I measured the window
Speaker 2: and it was thirty thirty some inches live, thirty eight
Speaker 2: inches live, I want to say. And his shoulders were
Speaker 2: past it. I mean you couldn't you know, it completely
Speaker 2: blocked out the window when it was standing up. Right
Speaker 2: later on, you know, measured where it stepped over the fence,
Speaker 2: and I want to say, it's forty eight inches forty
Speaker 2: two to forty eight inches. Some of was in that
Speaker 2: neck of the woods, and it went over it really easy.
Speaker 2: And the other thing I noticed was you could tell
Speaker 2: it was kind of bulky looking but furry. At the
Speaker 2: same time, it didn't look like somebody you know, wearning
Speaker 2: a much clothes or soon or something like that. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, it just looks like it's outlines was furry looking.
Speaker 2: That's the only time that I can confirm that I've
Speaker 2: seen something. But in the same area, I've had other
Speaker 2: accounts or other experiences that I can't quite explain other
Speaker 2: than Triune Bigfoot. And to go back to the red Eyes,
Speaker 2: that's what we call it. And to go back to
Speaker 2: Red Eyes, it was you know, I still the devil.
Speaker 2: You know. It wouldn't till many, many years later. I
Speaker 2: was reading some article in Outdoor Life Believer or not
Speaker 2: and Pat McManus, I believe, he was telling some Sasquatch stories.
Speaker 2: I got noticing that some of the stuff that he
Speaker 2: was had in there is what I seen, you know,
Speaker 2: the red eyes and the hulk and shape and everything.
Speaker 2: And I got wandered and did I see a Bigfoot?
Speaker 2: And you know that started my journey on researching about Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: You know, anything I could read and movies watched, you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of the stuff that occurred to me. It
Speaker 2: was that happened I found out afterwards. So it's not
Speaker 2: like I was reading this and then oh yeah, I
Speaker 2: smelled the Sasquatch. I know, it was like, what what's
Speaker 2: the smell that I'm smelling? You know, And then later
Speaker 2: on the futures lot and egg trash. It's a smell
Speaker 2: that just don't get to striped properly because nothing really
Speaker 2: fits it. But back to I was a Turkey countany
Speaker 2: probably teen maybe twelve years later, and that's coming along
Speaker 2: this one particular stretch of old road that went out
Speaker 2: through the mountain and it's been closed off of traffic
Speaker 2: for years and years and years. It's just basically a
Speaker 2: walk path now. But I stopped because I was getting
Speaker 2: ready to make a turkey call and I heard something
Speaker 2: kind of like a grunt just and they were releasing
Speaker 2: barriers around kind of restocked bears and as part of
Speaker 2: the Virginia, and I thought maybe it was a bear.
Speaker 2: So I just, you know, stayed there and sit down
Speaker 2: beside the tree after a few minutes because I was like, man,
Speaker 2: I want to see one of these birds, but I
Speaker 2: don't want that close to me and everything. And it
Speaker 2: kept grunting below me, but I could never see it.
Speaker 2: But I could tell by the direction that it was
Speaker 2: moving that it should have walked out in front in
Speaker 2: that road at some point in time. And it never
Speaker 2: came out in that raid, or if it did, I
Speaker 2: never saw it, but I kept my eyes locked on it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it closed, I don't know if
Speaker 2: it stopped there. All I know to grunt and stopped.
Speaker 2: I didn't hear nothing to walk off in any direction.
Speaker 2: It is just that's when I really got the hare
Speaker 2: standing up on the back of my neck kind of feeling,
Speaker 2: you know, like well, what was that. I should have
Speaker 2: been able to see whatever it was before it ever
Speaker 2: got to the road. But you know, I wanted if
Speaker 2: it did cross that road, I should have seen it,
Speaker 2: but I didn't. And you know, uh, traveling out through
Speaker 2: the mountain. At other times, when my father and grandfather
Speaker 2: and stuff, we'd come across some of these sticks structures
Speaker 2: of won't called now, but Dad and them would always say, oh,
Speaker 2: that's word of hunters, and they put these sticks up
Speaker 2: and everything, and you know, little hunting lines and everything.
Speaker 2: But none of these things look like something that would
Speaker 2: actually benefit a hunter. You know, one thing to be
Speaker 2: too tall, too even for a hunter to be able
Speaker 2: to look over. There was no way. They didn't have
Speaker 2: no shooting wings or nothing. It was. It just didn't
Speaker 2: make sense. Of course at the time, you know, Dad
Speaker 2: and them may know it all and everything, and I'm
Speaker 2: just okay the look out of it and everything, and
Speaker 2: you know, I asked me questions, but you know, and
Speaker 2: then it was probably another two years after that we
Speaker 2: went a little bit further deeper out in the mountain
Speaker 2: and it was on a king hunt one night, and
Speaker 2: we had had a devastating ice storm hit this area
Speaker 2: and a lot of the road had fallen trees and
Speaker 2: stuff in it and everything. But we come to this
Speaker 2: one spot and the dog wouldn't go around the tree,
Speaker 2: and we were trying to figure out how to get
Speaker 2: because blurred road was a little bit of a drop off,
Speaker 2: and you know, nobody felt like climbing down and then
Speaker 2: coming back up, so we was trying to figure out
Speaker 2: could we go around the other way, but it was
Speaker 2: so thick that it was trying to hard look and
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, we'll go this way again. I think
Speaker 2: it's pretty much, you know, we come all come conclusion.
Speaker 2: If we can't get around this easy, we're going back home.
Speaker 2: But the dog was acting string and wouldn't go through
Speaker 2: and had been hunting pretty hard, you know, trying to
Speaker 2: pick up a trail or something. And as we're standing
Speaker 2: there talking and everything from the light that I had,
Speaker 2: I seen I didn't know it was a rock at
Speaker 2: the time, but I seen this walk come from over
Speaker 2: on the other side of the brush pile on this
Speaker 2: rock wasn't no bigger than a golf ball, wasn't even
Speaker 2: golf ball size. It's small, maybe like a fireball or
Speaker 2: something fast. And it hit me in his chest and
Speaker 2: I called it. It didn't you know, hit me real
Speaker 2: hard or nothing. It was just, you know, who's saven rocks?
Speaker 2: Who's back here in the middle of night? Oven rocks
Speaker 2: of people? So then you know the whole thing comes,
Speaker 2: well who done it? And you know we're a look
Speaker 2: around everything for tracks and everything. Nothing more like one
Speaker 2: of they must have come in on the other side.
Speaker 2: So my brother in law did get down and I
Speaker 2: got on the other side. I went below the road.
Speaker 2: He went about and we got looking over and we
Speaker 2: found no tracks on the other side of the tree
Speaker 2: had fell down with all the limbs and everything. And
Speaker 2: still could not explain. But you know, I still got
Speaker 2: the rock hold in my hand. I like, well, who
Speaker 2: threw the rock? You know, squirrels can't throw the rocks.
Speaker 2: They might drop a rock, but this came from over
Speaker 2: the three limbs and stuff. So aw, you know went
Speaker 2: we de started to get out there on that one,
Speaker 2: and the dog was happy to leave with us. To you,
Speaker 2: I mean, that dog just didn't act until we got
Speaker 2: back home. And you know, none of this is and
Speaker 2: I didn't think of a sasquatch then, didn't think of
Speaker 2: sasquats there whenever I heard the grunting down Beloada road
Speaker 2: while turkey hunting. It wasn't too much of getting into
Speaker 2: thinking about all this was Sasquatch until a few years
Speaker 2: back that I was going up the mountain to salts
Speaker 2: and deer, which you know, we we like to put
Speaker 2: the salt out and then you know, get camera pictures
Speaker 2: and see what, you know, what kind of bucks and
Speaker 2: wildlife around whenever we're doing that. And I was walking
Speaker 2: out through there and close to the spot where I
Speaker 2: heard the grunt. But this is you know, years later,
Speaker 2: I came across what I first thought was a bear track,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, man, that's a that's a huge bearer.
Speaker 2: But I could look at it and I'm like, this,
Speaker 2: you know, looks a little bit too deep for the bear. Right,
Speaker 2: we ain't had much rain here, the brown shouldn't be
Speaker 2: that soft. But you know, five hundred pounds bar you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of track it might leave
Speaker 2: or whatever like that. And I thought, man, I'm going
Speaker 2: to go holler a friend of mine and just have
Speaker 2: him come and just have another look at it. You know,
Speaker 2: he might be able to do. Yeah, that's definitely a
Speaker 2: barrier or whatever. You know, and we got back up
Speaker 2: er and he was looking. He got down on the
Speaker 2: ground and was looking at it almost eye level eyelet,
Speaker 2: and he said, that tracks longer than what you think
Speaker 2: it is. He said that just because of all the
Speaker 2: breed there, because the front part of the foot was
Speaker 2: kind of in a little muddy called muddy but disturbed area,
Speaker 2: and the rest of it was like broken branches and
Speaker 2: little twigs and grass growing up and stuff. So it
Speaker 2: didn't leave much of a the track because the toes
Speaker 2: you could see the prints in the mud and everything,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the little ridges and everything, the
Speaker 2: normal ridges and George's back area. It just wasn't enough
Speaker 2: good ground for it to leave an impression. Like you said,
Speaker 2: when you got down there and looked at it, you
Speaker 2: could tell it went from being what looked like a
Speaker 2: seven inch wide, you know, eight inch long to more
Speaker 2: like a fourteen inch long track. And we couldn't. We
Speaker 2: tried to cast it, but neither one of us had
Speaker 2: done any casting, and you know, other than the toes,
Speaker 2: it probably wouldn't picked nothing up. But it was amazing
Speaker 2: to see you that, and I'm like, yeah, they are
Speaker 2: squatches on this mountain. But that same day before I
Speaker 2: got out of there, I had another experience that lent
Speaker 2: me to believe it. You know, Saskatch is more than
Speaker 2: just an ape. It's something a little different than I
Speaker 2: don't know what we're dealing with. And that was because
Speaker 2: one spot I was playing on putting some salt out.
Speaker 2: I got up here and I had this funny feeling
Speaker 2: of my body trying to be like vibrating, and you know,
Speaker 2: that's about the only way. It was like I was vibrating,
Speaker 2: and as crazy as this is going to sound, in
Speaker 2: my head, I seen myself doing what I was doing.
Speaker 2: It was like I was watching myself from a different
Speaker 2: point of view, feather up the mountain. And then and
Speaker 2: and I within a few seconds, that whole thing just stopped,
Speaker 2: and I got the most nauseated feeling they was in
Speaker 2: the pit of my stomach, and I Michael was that
Speaker 2: And I broke up and sweats and chills, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: what happened there? You know? I mean left Eler. I've
Speaker 2: been back there and I had that same feeling or nothing,
Speaker 2: you know, in the same area. I don't I personally
Speaker 2: think I got too close to maybe a young Sasquatch
Speaker 2: and they maybe hit me with enter sound or something.
Speaker 2: I didn't see nothing. I seen the track earlier, didn't
Speaker 2: see nothing, didn't haint, nothing, didn't smell nothing. I just
Speaker 2: got that weird feeling and that vision. And then you know,
Speaker 2: that's all within a mile or two of my house
Speaker 2: what used to be our house up there, but on
Speaker 2: the same mountain, just on different side of it. I've
Speaker 2: had a few more experiences. I know, one time, me
Speaker 2: and my cousins, after watching Mountain Monsters, we decided we
Speaker 2: was going to go up in the mountains and see
Speaker 2: what we can find. And I didn't tell him anywhere
Speaker 2: where we was going. Nobody knew where he was going.
Speaker 2: Just told him to hey, we're going out, I know
Speaker 2: what for big foot or whatever. You know. Didn't tell
Speaker 2: anybody where we was going. And I didn't go back
Speaker 2: to the same place because I knew if there's anything
Speaker 2: and something news going there, they might be playing Hope
Speaker 2: somewhere or something, you know, So take them to a
Speaker 2: different spot up in the mountain and we get up
Speaker 2: about halfway to the top or whatever, and come to
Speaker 2: a little bend in the road, and it was just
Speaker 2: like we both agreed, Okay, this would be a good
Speaker 2: spot to stop at, you know, and just settle down,
Speaker 2: listen to what's going on, see if we hear anything
Speaker 2: or whatever. And you know, we sit there for twenty
Speaker 2: minutes or so, and we just we need normal wood noises.
Speaker 2: And I remember there was a hoodo started hooting a
Speaker 2: couple of ridges over, and then there was another one
Speaker 2: that started a little bit closer, and then there was
Speaker 2: another one the other way, and they were hooting, you know,
Speaker 2: and me, just being stupid, I started hooting back to
Speaker 2: them and just see if they you know, hoo back
Speaker 2: at me. And a couple of did. The one that
Speaker 2: was real close it did hoop back at me, and
Speaker 2: we maybe didn't do three little times of backwards and
Speaker 2: folders heating and everything, and all of a sudden, now
Speaker 2: just stopped and it was like, okay, I guess they
Speaker 2: got there playing that game. And it was bout to
Speaker 2: something on top of two different ridges next to the
Speaker 2: top of the mountain that just started scream And now
Speaker 2: I mean it wasn't a woman that was a cried
Speaker 2: and was screaming out. It wasn't a baby screaming out.
Speaker 2: It wasn't coding. I mean, we get her codings and
Speaker 2: stuff in here. It wasn't in the pants. It went
Speaker 2: in the mountain lining. There wasn't Bobcat. It went to
Speaker 2: the fox. You know, I've been listening to recordings of
Speaker 2: all kinds of animals, and basically the closest I can
Speaker 2: come to seeing it. It sounded like chimpanzees, but we
Speaker 2: don't have chimpancies. We don't even have zoo that close.
Speaker 2: Knoxville is the closest zoo. I think maybe that would
Speaker 2: have animals such as that, and they wouldn't reports missing
Speaker 2: chimps or nothing around like that, you know. And it
Speaker 2: was two of them, and they were screaming out. And
Speaker 2: the scary part was as they started coming down, and
Speaker 2: you could tell by their screams and hollered that they
Speaker 2: were coming towards us down and We're looking at each
Speaker 2: other like what is that? And they get closer and
Speaker 2: they get closer, and you know, I'm like, I got
Speaker 2: a night vision. I need to see what this is,
Speaker 2: you know. And the thing before we walked up in
Speaker 2: the mountain was working fine. It worked fine while we
Speaker 2: was up there a different spot. When I turned it on,
Speaker 2: it only showed like snow on TV. After all the
Speaker 2: programming used to go out, you know, just a buzzy
Speaker 2: lines and everything, and it ain't working, and you know,
Speaker 2: it was kind of getting to panic. But we also
Speaker 2: at the same time noticed that they'd gotten quiet. Everything
Speaker 2: had gotten quiet, and we're looking around. You know, I
Speaker 2: can't get over to look at his face. He's wide.
Speaker 2: I'm sure mine the same way. I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: make funey nothing now, I'm sure mine the same way.
Speaker 2: Hit his eyes as wide as could be, and you know,
Speaker 2: to look on his face, I'm sure like I said,
Speaker 2: I looked the same way. And it's like, what did
Speaker 2: we just disturbed up here in this mountain? And you know,
Speaker 2: we sit there for a little bit because we didn't
Speaker 2: know if it was best to move or not. We know,
Speaker 2: we did take no flashlights because the moon was pretty bright.
Speaker 2: Well we didn't feel like any time of year it was.
Speaker 2: It didn't feel like warned snakes shouldn't have been out,
Speaker 2: you know, and everything. I had night vision, remember, And
Speaker 2: so we're there and everything's quiet. But after this little
Speaker 2: skid road there, I did thought I seen something man
Speaker 2: shape walk across the road and swore to it because
Speaker 2: it was like, you know, called out a corner of
Speaker 2: eye and everything. But that was when we both pretty
Speaker 2: much made up in my mind that hey, the watching
Speaker 2: us or whatever it is, it's watching us, it ain't
Speaker 2: messed with us. There's probably one sign time for us
Speaker 2: to leave. So we got out and went back to
Speaker 2: the bottom of the mountain and lo and behold night work. Fine.
Speaker 2: I never had a problem out of it. Again, I
Speaker 2: don't have that particular model now, but that was the
Speaker 2: only glitch you ever had. And you know, I heard
Speaker 2: the term cryptic electronic interference. I do believe that is
Speaker 2: the thing. So h that was all on that stretching
Speaker 2: the mountain there. There's been a few other places I've
Speaker 2: went to, and you know, sometimes I was with people
Speaker 2: and other times I've been by myself, and I've had
Speaker 2: weird experiences. One time I was deer hunting and it
Speaker 2: was early in the morning because I like to get
Speaker 2: up in the tree stand before a lot of people
Speaker 2: was in the mountain, you know, so I can well,
Speaker 2: one number one, you don't see me walking in see
Speaker 2: you don't know exactly where my true stand is. And
Speaker 2: number two, I you know, if I'm already up there
Speaker 2: and you start moving around, it kind of might help
Speaker 2: my chances of the wildlife getting driven towards me. But
Speaker 2: I remember I got up in the tree stand and
Speaker 2: I heard what I thought was abouck deer running and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this is gonna be good morning. And
Speaker 2: another time, the moon was really getting bright, I could
Speaker 2: see a couple of deer out from a young deer.
Speaker 2: I could tell they were young, and I'm like, that's grunting.
Speaker 2: Ain't coming from them, It's come below me. So I'm
Speaker 2: trying to look and you know, see what I can see,
Speaker 2: and I can't see nothing. And I'm telling you, I
Speaker 2: should have been able to see it. But something run
Speaker 2: like a deer walked right under my tree stand and
Speaker 2: I never saw it. But it grunted, and you know,
Speaker 2: the deer, the two young deer were walking the same
Speaker 2: the same direction I was. They would stomp the foot
Speaker 2: and everything and just kept looking. They were on alert.
Speaker 2: But what it was, never could see it. It got,
Speaker 2: you know, the little ones run off and the last
Speaker 2: grunt that I heard from it was about the same
Speaker 2: area where they were standing at. So I should have
Speaker 2: been able to see something, but I never did see anything.
Speaker 2: And then they was another probably it was another time.
Speaker 2: It was probably about three hundred yards away from it.
Speaker 2: Now it's probably more five hundred yards away from where
Speaker 2: it has happened. I found this tree when walking in,
Speaker 2: I couldn't see it just because of the shape of
Speaker 2: the land and everything. But walking back out, I seen
Speaker 2: a tree that was about thirty forty foot long. The
Speaker 2: top part it was a dead old but the top
Speaker 2: part was about the size of two liter pop bottle
Speaker 2: and the bottom part was quite like five gallons, but
Speaker 2: you know, it was bigger than a pop bottle, and
Speaker 2: it was almost perfectly balanced in this other tree of
Speaker 2: something that was probably about a little branch that had
Speaker 2: been broken dead for a long time. It was about
Speaker 2: bigger Reund's broomhandle and knowing more than about six inches long.
Speaker 2: And I'm just like, how is that possible? So I
Speaker 2: got investigated a little bit, and I didn't have a
Speaker 2: phone or nothing with mere cammera or anything, you know,
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to find it again to this day.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Hurricane Heleen and some other windstorm
Speaker 2: may have brought it down or whatever. I can't find it.
Speaker 2: But I remember I was up there walking around looking
Speaker 2: at it, and I'm like that you know, if it
Speaker 2: would have fell in there, it should work at other
Speaker 2: am I that was a little way of it if
Speaker 2: it was you know, just sort of kind of grew,
Speaker 2: you know, fell over, but not that much way, you know,
Speaker 2: not well, I guess one trying to say is is
Speaker 2: I was looking also on the ground, trying to find
Speaker 2: the whole wad of roots or whatever where this one
Speaker 2: tree come from, and there wasn't nothing there. There wasn't
Speaker 2: no root ball. They wasn't no hole on the ground
Speaker 2: where the root ball would have been. And the fact
Speaker 2: that this was a locust and in that little part
Speaker 2: of the mountain there was not another locusts around there.
Speaker 2: Now there's locusts a grouse on the mountain, but they
Speaker 2: was normally over on the south side. This was more
Speaker 2: on the north side. So I'm like something peers to me,
Speaker 2: picked this up and carried it over here and brought
Speaker 2: it and set it down, which wasn't too far from
Speaker 2: a Native American marketree that the Native Americans used to
Speaker 2: mark around, you know for whatever, you know, was it
Speaker 2: a trail marker, was it a point in you know
Speaker 2: who thing? Soace war soce something. Because there's a couple
Speaker 2: of springs up there and everything, and I'm like, that's
Speaker 2: a funny coincidence, you know, two stewards of the land,
Speaker 2: so to speak, as they marked the area about the
Speaker 2: same place. And then a lot of stuff I've done
Speaker 2: here lately has been with my friend Jeff. We formed
Speaker 2: a little thing called the CIA Cryptic Investigations of America.
Speaker 2: We catch a lot of flak for that, but I
Speaker 2: thought it was just a fun thing on there. We
Speaker 2: We've had some interest and stuff happened. There's been a
Speaker 2: couple of phour days that been taking that. You know,
Speaker 2: they somethwhere you know people you know, some people look
Speaker 2: at it, but like I just said, leave, some people
Speaker 2: look at it and say I see a face, and
Speaker 2: some people see more that you know, I didn't even
Speaker 2: realize that. And we went into one area and we
Speaker 2: have this area that's he was lived more on one
Speaker 2: side of the mountain a few miles away and now
Speaker 2: lived in the But we didn't know each other until
Speaker 2: here recently. And we've just been investigating around locally, and
Speaker 2: you know, I've been driving the other places to just
Speaker 2: look and trying to get people tell me stories or
Speaker 2: hymn stories, you know, and trying to investigate because these
Speaker 2: had his own experiences and everything. And you know, we
Speaker 2: found one spot that is just it had a history
Speaker 2: of just you know, weird stuff happening. It sounded like
Speaker 2: horses galloping through the mountains, and went to have horses,
Speaker 2: you know, galloping through the mountain. I don't know what
Speaker 2: makes noise like that. But you know, I ain't the
Speaker 2: only one to heard them. They've been other people that
Speaker 2: heard them and told me the same story. And I
Speaker 2: never told them that they you know, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: so they heard something. I heard something somewhere. We never
Speaker 2: discussed anything. So is that a coincidence or you know,
Speaker 2: in years a part of you know, I might have
Speaker 2: heard mine in the nineties and they heard theirs and
Speaker 2: in few thousand and everything. But we got up there
Speaker 2: and found a lot of structure, not you know, not
Speaker 2: the upside down trees, not the whole bunch of trees.
Speaker 2: It's just funny how you know, certain sticks get turned
Speaker 2: a certain way when they just don't make no sense
Speaker 2: how they fell out a tree like a you know,
Speaker 2: it don't make sense for somebody to do it, because
Speaker 2: nobody in West News, just you know, lost would be
Speaker 2: looking in an area for hope. I'm sure some of
Speaker 2: it probably gives a random active nature, you know, but
Speaker 2: I don't think all of it. Is. One thing I've
Speaker 2: noticed around these parts, and I don't know if it
Speaker 2: just has to do with this particular group of sassquatches,
Speaker 2: is I'm finding a lot of sticks that are pushed
Speaker 2: into the ground. I'm not talking about you know, pulled
Speaker 2: up in the tops of tree, you know, and pushed
Speaker 2: down the ground, the root balls sticking up, not like that.
Speaker 2: These are just sticks. When you walk up to them,
Speaker 2: they look like something that fell out of a tree,
Speaker 2: maybe there in a windstorm or something. But it's when
Speaker 2: you go to touch them that you realize that the
Speaker 2: windstorm did not do this for one thing to weigh
Speaker 2: too far pushed down into the ground, I'm talking for
Speaker 2: to six inches of something that weighs, you know, less
Speaker 2: than two pounds. Really most of the time nature doesn't
Speaker 2: do that. That look more deliberate, and they would be
Speaker 2: close to the city of the trees that we find
Speaker 2: that you know, were twisted and broken over, and or
Speaker 2: we'll find some weird sort of you know, rape vine
Speaker 2: twisted around something to make like an arch or something.
Speaker 2: So what of interesting stuff around here? We haven't seen definitely,
Speaker 2: you know, hey, this is we've seen it. But we've
Speaker 2: had women's voices talking in one direction and then you'd
Speaker 2: hear like children in another direction. In a situation you know,
Speaker 2: they shouldn't be women here and children there. They shouldn't
Speaker 2: been anybody in there. I don't know if it's you know,
Speaker 2: the whole trying to fool us or whatever, but we're
Speaker 2: looking to continue to keep investigating one thing here. Within
Speaker 2: the last few weeks we seem to have our own
Speaker 2: version of the malt Man around. It was reported next
Speaker 2: to Bristol at King College did a eight to ten
Speaker 2: foot wing creature had been spotted. And I've had people
Speaker 2: come up, of course, you know, and ask me about
Speaker 2: it and everything, or didn't they tell me, well, if
Speaker 2: you tell any man, o kick but I seen the
Speaker 2: same thing, you know, or you know, I'll deny it
Speaker 2: or whatever, you know and everything. I'm like, okay, you know,
Speaker 2: and they'll go in describing that you know, it don't
Speaker 2: look like a bird. They don't have feathers. It's more
Speaker 2: like a bat t you know, either type of wings
Speaker 2: or you know, it didn't have red eyes or you
Speaker 2: know stuff. So you know it's not only Bigfoot were after. Well,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say after. We're interested in any kind of
Speaker 2: weird and unusual. We just tend to lean more towards
Speaker 2: the bigfoot, expect because we both had encounters and everything.
Speaker 2: My own thing is red eyes, you know, and you
Speaker 2: know the smells. I forgot about that one smell memory
Speaker 2: up there my original home place was the first staying
Speaker 2: on two different nights, I remember I went out and
Speaker 2: I got this whiff of something just horrible. I mean,
Speaker 2: and it's not quite the dead rotten smell, but it's
Speaker 2: close to it. And I thought, man, what around here
Speaker 2: died you know, what passed away or whatever. And we
Speaker 2: had some goats up there, and it's camping all them.
Speaker 2: They were all there. My other animals, the dogs and
Speaker 2: stuff were all counted for cats and everything, and it's like,
Speaker 2: where is that smell? And you know, I didn't figure out,
Speaker 2: but the goats were going wild that night. I do
Speaker 2: remember that might have been what brought me outside, because
Speaker 2: they were just running around. Normally they went up we
Speaker 2: had a barn out there, and they normally got dark,
Speaker 2: went in the barn and didn't come out to daylight,
Speaker 2: but for some reason they would not go in that barn.
Speaker 2: Now I went out there, I didn't see anything. The
Speaker 2: smell didn't seem like it was coming from there, and
Speaker 2: the smell seemed like it was coming up one of
Speaker 2: our deeper, darker, thicker holler. You know, I did not
Speaker 2: go lie, I didn't I go to investigate that because
Speaker 2: I didn't want to. Didn't we didn't want to know
Speaker 2: to answer that too well, you know. And then the
Speaker 2: time a little while later, I smelled it again. Uh
Speaker 2: my wife at the time was with me. She smelled
Speaker 2: it too and was asked me, She's like, is that
Speaker 2: what the embarrass smell like? And I was like, night
Speaker 2: because I used to work with the game department, and
Speaker 2: I smelled bardens from out hunting where you know, they
Speaker 2: was a barrier one time or another, and you know,
Speaker 2: it's a smell you don't quite forget either. I smelled
Speaker 2: a bear being I mean stuck my nase right up
Speaker 2: against fur being killed on the highways and just to
Speaker 2: try to answer, Okay, is it a wet dog? Is
Speaker 2: it a bear? Is this that? And now it wasn't,
Speaker 2: so I don't know what that smell was. I just
Speaker 2: know that it came and went it would it linger around?
Speaker 2: I mean it's like it stayed around an hour or two,
Speaker 2: maybe three hours, and then it was gone, so, you know,
Speaker 2: and it was gone. You know, I don't know what
Speaker 2: else it be of just talk to different people and
Speaker 2: you know, we well come down to you know, we'll
Speaker 2: say words. It's like yeah, yeah, yeah. But most of
Speaker 2: what I hear is similar. It's not quite that. You know,
Speaker 2: it's not quite burn trash, not quite burned horse hairs,
Speaker 2: not quite you know, it's a unique smell to its own.
Speaker 2: I haven't really found no tracks or nothing around other
Speaker 2: than that. One seen some things that possibly can be
Speaker 2: a track. But you know, also this area isn't the
Speaker 2: best place for tracks of most of the soul is
Speaker 2: rocky or hard packed. Are you getting too much leaf
Speaker 2: litter and to breed litter and everything to really find
Speaker 2: tracks and stuff. I have found some hair that I've questioned, Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, if this is a bird and it's got
Speaker 2: some awful long looking hair, you know, But at the
Speaker 2: same time, you know, it's not like you can get
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff tasted for free. So it's more like, Okay,
Speaker 2: but just in the back burner whatever, or I didn't
Speaker 2: wouldn't be prepared enough to get a sample where I
Speaker 2: couldn't contaminate it. You know, I'd be like, oh, there's
Speaker 2: some hair, but I ain't got a bag, I don't
Speaker 2: have the Weezers. You know, if I touch it, I'm
Speaker 2: going to contaminate. And then then I, oh, well, it's
Speaker 2: just human hair, you know, blah blah blah or whatever.
Speaker 2: So I'm more just the experience. I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: prove or disproved, because to me, they're very much real.
Speaker 2: I don't know what they are, but they are pretty
Speaker 2: much real. In my opinion, I lean more towards these
Speaker 2: things can slip in and out of our dimension. I
Speaker 2: think that's why sometimes you only do find one track,
Speaker 2: is it's like it took one step in our world
Speaker 2: and stepped into another world. Also, I think that's why
Speaker 2: one minute you see it and next minute there's nothing there.
Speaker 2: I had a sort of sighting, but I don't know
Speaker 2: because I was on this one trail and never been
Speaker 2: out hit before or whatever, and they was more just
Speaker 2: getting out and seeing what kind of damn which Helene
Speaker 2: had done. And I remember I was coming around the bend,
Speaker 2: and I was looking down the road on a trail,
Speaker 2: you know, just looking basically for any kind of tracks
Speaker 2: or anything, or you know, unusual rocks or whatever. And
Speaker 2: then I look up for a second and now at
Speaker 2: the corner of my I seen this black man shaped
Speaker 2: object take two steps and go behind a tree. And
Speaker 2: it should have come out that tree behind the tree,
Speaker 2: and it never did. And I walked over. I walked
Speaker 2: all the way around tree, and I seen nothing. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, did I really see something? Or was
Speaker 2: my ey splaying tricks now on me at time? You know,
Speaker 2: I can't say yep, that was definitely I saw some
Speaker 2: I can't say I did, but maybe I did. I
Speaker 2: just don't know. We're hoping to, you know, maybe get
Speaker 2: drown or something. We need. One of us is so
Speaker 2: much of that kind of stuff because we just a
Speaker 2: couple of boys from Solthwest Virginia, just trying to get
Speaker 2: out there and everything. But I think it would help
Speaker 2: us in a lot of ways, because we'll get into
Speaker 2: some areas where it's just so much storm damage or
Speaker 2: just for the the beatles that come through and you know,
Speaker 2: the devastated to hem Walk population around here, and some
Speaker 2: of those hemlocks were huge, and now they fell over
Speaker 2: and everything. They blocked a lot of access to places
Speaker 2: that's a little bit easier walking. I don't like to
Speaker 2: get too fall into the woods off trails because we
Speaker 2: do have a pretty good population of copperheads and timber
Speaker 2: rattlesnakes around everything, and don't want to get snake bit.
Speaker 2: And then you know, in the winter time, you know,
Speaker 2: while things do open up and everything, it gets a
Speaker 2: little treacherous whenever you think you're on good ground and
Speaker 2: you go sliding off. One thing that strange coincidence me
Speaker 2: and Jeff found was over towards his end is the
Speaker 2: dead well. We found a deer hide that we can't
Speaker 2: explain how it quite got back there. It was down
Speaker 2: in one of these deep hallers, I mean almost straight
Speaker 2: up and down, but it was just a hide and
Speaker 2: all loose hair and everything around there. There was no skeleton.
Speaker 2: They were no it wasn't scattered out like Damager's has
Speaker 2: been a hold of it. It was all right, and
Speaker 2: just the shape it was like that was it. There
Speaker 2: was no skeleton, no those other kind of signs of anything.
Speaker 2: It's almost like you brought a deer high back there
Speaker 2: and just laid it down. It was too far down
Speaker 2: the hall to be thrown by somebody down there. And
Speaker 2: once again there was no trails leading to or or
Speaker 2: something made drug it in there, or something like a
Speaker 2: code or a bobcat or something, you know, and we
Speaker 2: still don't have that explanation. But just right out the
Speaker 2: road from there was all kinds of arches, three structures.
Speaker 2: I had a walking stick, and I had checked my
Speaker 2: walking stick down to take some pictures of all this,
Speaker 2: and well I forgot. But we had walked further back
Speaker 2: into the mountain and it's like, well, on the way
Speaker 2: back out, you know, I'll pick it up then, because
Speaker 2: I mean it had to blaze on, you know, you
Speaker 2: weren't gonna miss it, you know. And I come back
Speaker 2: through and we could not find well, we both come
Speaker 2: through and we could not find that stick at all.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is one of the women and ones.
Speaker 2: You know. It wouldn't like a old well miss I
Speaker 2: don't know something, pick that stick up, and then we
Speaker 2: joked around it, you know, our next adventure. Backer We
Speaker 2: go back and it's like propped up in some kind
Speaker 2: of stick structure, you know, hanging from something you know
Speaker 2: that's off trail. Then you know we're gonna be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: thank you, We're gonna leave you long, you know, thank
Speaker 2: you for getting back my stick. You know, just we
Speaker 2: did this, weird stuff happened, whether it be you know,
Speaker 2: shimmering type stuff go buyas or the voices of people
Speaker 2: who aren't there. You know, I just don't know how
Speaker 2: to explain all that other than you know, there's some
Speaker 2: cryptic stuff going on, maybe some paranormal stuff going on,
Speaker 2: and I don't really know, but that's what we're trying
Speaker 2: to find out.
Speaker 1: You've had more than one sighting, you've had multiple encounters too.
Speaker 1: What would you say would be the holy grail when
Speaker 1: it would come to a sasquatch encounter for you?
Speaker 2: Now, Andy, being able to give a better description the
Speaker 2: sightings I had was like I said, they you know,
Speaker 2: I couldn't give you the definition. All we had a
Speaker 2: human face, Oh we had an air face or you know,
Speaker 2: something like that, or all the hearing only was a
Speaker 2: long or this long or something like that. You know. Uh, No,
Speaker 2: for me, the holy Grail would be look at it
Speaker 2: and tell you, yeah, man, it had like eyelashes like
Speaker 2: we do, and you know, a few mans you you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I mean, that's would be the
Speaker 2: Holy Girl for me.
Speaker 1: Well, at the current pace you're going at, I mean,
Speaker 1: all these experiences you never know that might be just
Speaker 1: around the corner.
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe, I mean, you know, when I tell people
Speaker 2: I feel like it, you know, one person can't have
Speaker 2: all this, you know. But you know, was talking to
Speaker 2: a lady who says, no, certain people seem to draw
Speaker 2: this type of stuff, And I guess maybe I'm one
Speaker 2: of those types. I don't have no explanation to it,
Speaker 2: or maybe I'm more open to that bird just didn't
Speaker 2: sound like a bird, you know, or a whistle wing
Speaker 2: mountain when you shouldn't heard a whistle or something, you know.
Speaker 2: And then I'm like, okay, well that and you know,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of you Okay, well, let's walk over here
Speaker 2: and see if we see something. And then a lot
Speaker 2: of times don't see nothing, but you're just like it
Speaker 2: was awful, weird, and this little mental note and your
Speaker 2: head and then you'll hear somebody else say something, you know,
Speaker 2: later down the road and they're like, yeah, I had
Speaker 2: the same thing happened to me, and I haven't told anybody.
Speaker 2: So you know, you know, how do you have so
Speaker 2: many coincidence happened with same stuff, you know, all over
Speaker 2: the place. I'm not I know, these missed identifications going on.
Speaker 2: But when you got people who live out in these
Speaker 2: mountains and in the area, they know the wildlife around,
Speaker 2: you know, they you know, they know when something don't
Speaker 2: look dry like the trees, you know that just don't
Speaker 2: look like a normal wind lolong tree into this and
Speaker 2: that and everything. I wish that you know, people have
Speaker 2: paid a little bit more attention to and give them
Speaker 2: a little bit more credit that they're not crazy or
Speaker 2: you know, not trying to pull somebody's legs. No doubt
Speaker 2: that is that going on to I'm you know, I'm
Speaker 2: pretty well sure. One time I thought I discovered this
Speaker 2: nice little stacking rocks going through places I didn't think
Speaker 2: nobody be And then what I do long behold walk
Speaker 2: through law patch and I find a Vianna sausage then
Speaker 2: and like, Okay, that's probably somebody hunting, and they're probably
Speaker 2: stacking up rocks so they can find their way back
Speaker 2: to this one spot. Okay, it very well could be
Speaker 2: that little particular has a certain vibe to it that
Speaker 2: it just don't feel like one of the places you
Speaker 2: want to go into. Too much to you. But you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes you get that wild hair like I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: back there, you know, and you find a little little
Speaker 2: stuff and I'm just like, okay, it don't make sense. Now.
Speaker 2: I was talking to another fella, and I don't know
Speaker 2: where he come up with that. Of course he probably
Speaker 2: had more connection I did, he said, And there he
Speaker 2: around here at least eighty years back. I know that
Speaker 2: back in the twenties and thirties, they was a big
Speaker 2: logging boom around here and everything. Of course, this was
Speaker 2: the mough area to get into and everything. And I heard,
Speaker 2: you know a few stories of uh, you know, the
Speaker 2: boogeyman isn't calling, you know, or the creature, the creature,
Speaker 2: that's what Dad and then will refer to get talking
Speaker 2: about something. You know, they bet you can go missing
Speaker 2: or something. Because my great grandfather lived a little feather
Speaker 2: off the mountain there and he lived more in the
Speaker 2: I call it the weird area, and you know it.
Speaker 2: You know, they'd be like talking to you by, well,
Speaker 2: want of my chickens come up? Miss must have a
Speaker 2: fox or cane or something. And I go around and
Speaker 2: and and then all of a sudden they went from
Speaker 2: h and look that creature? Got it? What creature? And fox?
Speaker 2: And our boy if it was fox, I told you
Speaker 2: his fox. You know they want them things and you know, creature,
Speaker 2: what do you mean by creature? You know? Why? Man?
Speaker 2: One time Dad I was like, you mean big foot?
Speaker 2: Ain't no such things and things? You know. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: you know, but he's like, it's just a creature. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I looked at it, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: was it one of them things that Dad just didn't
Speaker 2: believe in? But he couldn't explain some of the stuff,
Speaker 2: So you know, maybe maybe it was a bigfoot and
Speaker 2: just couldn't mit that these things walked her, so he
Speaker 2: just called it a creature. And one of his brother
Speaker 2: told me one of his encounters to said that he
Speaker 2: was up in the woods and he took one of
Speaker 2: his lady friends up there, and they were sitting there
Speaker 2: listening to some music and drinking beer, and he said,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, both sides hit on top of
Speaker 2: his collar. He thought somebody was missling because it wasn't
Speaker 2: too far from Appalachian trail and she said I got out,
Speaker 2: you know, was a threatner and all this and that.
Speaker 2: And he said that I heard the bushes start snapping
Speaker 2: and breaking, and there was somebody coming down there. And
Speaker 2: he said, all I seen was this big hurry. Was
Speaker 2: no bear walk off? He said, they walked off like
Speaker 2: a man. He said, Now, maybe somebody had a suit on.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but he said that was a big dude. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's like bigger than Uncle Ronnie and Uncle Ronnie. The
Speaker 2: only way I can scrap him was big Bad John.
Speaker 2: Basically he was living model with Big Bad John. So
Speaker 2: you know, it must have been a pretty big size
Speaker 2: thing it walked off from him. But I get tickled.
Speaker 2: People who you know, they would laugh at me and stuff,
Speaker 2: you know, snigger or whatever. But now they start coming
Speaker 2: around and the you know, hey, well I seen this
Speaker 2: and I can't explain it. I don't know what it was,
Speaker 2: but or I heard this or you know, something like that,
Speaker 2: and I just looked at him like my man, I mean,
Speaker 2: without being there telling you, I don't know, but it's
Speaker 2: quite possibility that you see heard bigfoot, you know, I
Speaker 2: really do. I don't like the term nowhere, but you know,
Speaker 2: I don't doubt that they The resistance is real.
Speaker 1: Put that way, well, you might not want to use
Speaker 1: that term, but you are a knower. That's all there
Speaker 1: is to it. Let's talk about the elephant in the room.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: You go out at night with last week's guess Jeff
Speaker 1: and seek out all these encounters with sasquatch. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: sure a lot of the people who are listening to
Speaker 1: tonight's show just can't fathom how anyone would every want
Speaker 1: to go out and do such a thing with that
Speaker 1: in mind. What would you say to them about that?
Speaker 2: I really don't advise it because you don't know what
Speaker 2: you might be getting into. I'm not even talking about
Speaker 2: having to deal with sasquatch. Uh. You know, you can't
Speaker 2: see nothing. You don't know if you might be walking
Speaker 2: up on a snake or something like that. But you
Speaker 2: did get it, you do you find it, you know,
Speaker 2: And I think it's cause the TV is because, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, it has a lot of stuff from there
Speaker 2: so to able to do a lot of stuff. And
Speaker 2: that's admit that. You know, we know some of these
Speaker 2: shows are just you know, uh, but hunting again at
Speaker 2: that time investigation, you can also miss a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff to you know, during the day would see, you know,
Speaker 2: you might walk underneath a big tree structure and not
Speaker 2: even know that you you know, you may have something
Speaker 2: right there up close to you and you don't even
Speaker 2: know it the daytime. I would say, especially if people
Speaker 2: want to start investigate and do at during the day
Speaker 2: and if you do get to where you're comfortable with
Speaker 2: going at night, going to a place that you know
Speaker 2: very well that you know that because you don't have
Speaker 2: to go out in the middle of nowhere to find
Speaker 2: these things. I mean, I'm sure that your chances of
Speaker 2: maybe just finding something more uh outstanding worthy speak out
Speaker 2: in middle of nowheres because they just don't have that
Speaker 2: much interaction with humans. But they're a lot closer what
Speaker 2: people think what they are. I mean, they you know.
Speaker 2: But as far as going out there and everything, it's
Speaker 2: a it's a bit of a thrill to the being Okay,
Speaker 2: are we going to get some action? You know? But
Speaker 2: then at the same time we're we're not very bright
Speaker 2: because if you do a holler, what are you saying?
Speaker 2: You smack a tree? What are you saying to that thing?
Speaker 2: You know, it's sort of like I got you know,
Speaker 2: a perfect example of a certain hand gesture here is
Speaker 2: an insult, but in another country it's not considering an insult.
Speaker 2: The thumbs up is considered an insult. So you know,
Speaker 2: it's like, so, you know, you smack a tree and
Speaker 2: it might be telling one that you know, I'm ready
Speaker 2: to beat your rear end or something. You.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a scary thought, sasquatch getting that idea in
Speaker 1: his head.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what are you going to do about it,
Speaker 2: especially if you've got something that can just mind zach
Speaker 2: you from say far away or whatever.
Speaker 1: Oh no, doubt, or do something even worse if he
Speaker 1: gets in close.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it.
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Speaker 1: about out of time here in Indy? But before we
Speaker 1: call it, would you like to promote the CIA one
Speaker 1: last time and also tell the listeners who if they're
Speaker 1: an eyewitness from the Appalachian Mountains if they want to
Speaker 1: contact you, the best way to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, will you come up with the CIA and it's
Speaker 2: for criptic investigations Apple Astia. We are on Facebook and
Speaker 2: TikTok and YouTube, but really the best way to reach
Speaker 2: us is you know, through our Facebook page or through
Speaker 2: TikTok page. We you know, well, we want to definitely
Speaker 2: hear your stories. We want to hear your encounters. We
Speaker 2: hope to get to come and investigate or what or
Speaker 2: you know, or give our opinions on it. We're not experts.
Speaker 2: Nobody's experts, you know. We're just we're just trying to
Speaker 2: figure things out and you know, add a little bit
Speaker 2: more and maybe take maybe something you tell us or
Speaker 2: click and be like, oh, yeah, you know, we had
Speaker 2: that same stuff happened to us, you know or whatever.
Speaker 2: And yeah, we love to hear from anybody, you know,
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be particularly in the Middle Apple area.
Speaker 2: You know, we love to hear from anybody, but especially
Speaker 2: people who you know might be.
Speaker 3: In East Tennessee, you know, eastern Kentucky, southern West Virginia,
Speaker 3: northern west North Carolina and the mountains and everything.
Speaker 2: You know, we'd love to hear from you or whatever.
Speaker 2: Maybe get to come out or you know, if they
Speaker 2: sometime maybe you want to go in an investigation with
Speaker 2: us just slick us up. It's like I said, see
Speaker 2: a cryptic investigations of Appalachia, Andy and Jeff.
Speaker 1: And if you're thinking about heading out with these two
Speaker 1: guys within your Jeff Indian Jeff, I should say they
Speaker 1: are as nice as they seem. So I think you'd
Speaker 1: have a great time. I really do.
Speaker 2: We would hope, you know, I mean we we are
Speaker 2: not there to you know, the games or nothing like that.
Speaker 2: We just want to show you our little world so
Speaker 2: to speak, you know, with you know what possibly can
Speaker 2: be walking on the ridges or slipping between the trees
Speaker 2: or whatever, or you know who days we might even
Speaker 2: get a good call or maybe see something dash across
Speaker 2: or whatever. I don't want to see them red eyes
Speaker 2: peeping in a window again, I know, haven't I.
Speaker 1: I don't blame you, but one thing's for sure, both
Speaker 1: you and Jeff. You have good luck when you go out.
Speaker 1: We have good luck when you stay in too. So
Speaker 1: you have the odds of somebody coming along with you
Speaker 1: getting some action are pretty high.
Speaker 2: Now, we hope to you know, I ain't never guaranteed anything.
Speaker 2: You know, we went once what they had a history
Speaker 2: of stuff, and I mean it was we I can't
Speaker 2: say disappointed, because everything you go out or that's we
Speaker 2: feel every time that we get the opportunity to go
Speaker 2: out is a good time. But we just the lack
Speaker 2: of anything that pointed to them being in there within
Speaker 2: the last ten years, it was not there, you know,
Speaker 2: So you know, I don't know what happened. I mean,
Speaker 2: it had a notable history of a lot of strangeness
Speaker 2: then there. Now there was the feeling, the vibe, you know,
Speaker 2: the place was very watchfulness, but they was you know,
Speaker 2: very little, you know, three structures or you know any
Speaker 2: kind of sounds. You know, so you know, not every
Speaker 2: time we go out is the best time. But then
Speaker 2: you know these places we've been to, I think, man
Speaker 2: ain't nothing here, or if he is, blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: And then you're surprised that, just like WOA, there's a
Speaker 2: lot going on here. And you get to see me
Speaker 2: trying to fumble around with some equipment, trying to.
Speaker 1: Learn how to do stuff that'd be worth it right
Speaker 1: there in and of itself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt. Well, Andy,
Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing
Speaker 1: those experiences with this. I really do appreciate it. And
Speaker 1: also too, so everyone listening knows you'll be able to
Speaker 1: find the links to the not only the CIA YouTube
Speaker 1: channel where they've got some other evidence posted, but also
Speaker 1: their Facebook page. That'll make it really easy to find them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they're really easy to find. And we appreciate
Speaker 2: being on the show. What we do and you might
Speaker 2: mist like this and everything is a big honor for us.
Speaker 1: Well, it's an honor having you on, so of course,
Speaker 1: thanks again so much for your time, and if I
Speaker 1: can never help you, please let me know.
Speaker 2: Door thing Man appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Well, I goes two ways. Thanks again so much and
Speaker 1: have a great night. That's it for another episode of
Speaker 1: Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with Vic Kundiff. If you've had a
Speaker 1: sasquatch encounter and would like to be a guest on
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Speaker 2: We'd love to hear from you.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, have a great night.