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Speaker 1: Well, you know something, brother, This is Mark Mingle from

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Colorado Springs and what You're gonna do when the Surely

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you Can't Be Serious podcast runs wild on you?

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Speaker 2: All Right, I've got a tribute question for you to

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start off the episode today. Okay, can you name the

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first band to have five singles reached the top five

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on the.

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Speaker 3: Hot one hundred. I'm gonna go on a limb here. Yes,

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is it Genesis? It's not Genesis? Actually I said ye

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for that? You really did? I mean, that's not fair.

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So here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: The Beatles are the first band They actually had one, two, three, four,

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and five of the Hot one hundred all at the

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same time, but those singles were from different albums. So

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can you name the first band with five singles to

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reach the top five of the Hot one hundred, all

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from the same album?

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Speaker 3: Is Genesis? It's jenital Wow? How did I know?

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Speaker 2: Today we are going to be talking about that album

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and those songs from the Invisible Touch album.

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Speaker 3: Invisible Touch this is the thirteenth studio album by the

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band Genesis. Now, obviously they went through several new beginnings

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if you will, Yeah, but yeah, this is number thirteen

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and to think that these guys when they got together

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to record this album, they had no songs in the bank.

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and we're just gonna improvise and we'll just put out

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whatever we come up with. And what they came up

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with was an album full what did five chart topping

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singles on this album? Five in the top five? That

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is crazy.

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Speaker 2: And when they started, they had nothing but a big

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blank piece of.

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Speaker 3: Paper, blank piece of paper and a drum machine. Yep, yeah,

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yeah the eight oh eight eight, the eight o eight.

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So we we you know, the we text our buddies.

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Def Dave said, do you know the eight oh eight story?

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I don't know the eight story right, And You're like, yes,

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we got it. And I'm like do we what? And

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You're like, isn't it the gated thing? And I was like, no, no,

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no gated drum is like that's that was a real

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drum with a gate, a noise gate on it. The

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eighth eight was one of the first drum machines. And

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I mean every major rap album that you heard in

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the eighties had the eight to eight tr eighth eight

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and the obviously a whole lot of other pop albums

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had it as well, and it was a primary force

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in both Invisible Touch and No Jacket Required. I didn't look,

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but my guess is it's probably also a big part

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of SO probably so. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So the interesting thing about Genesis to me, I mean,

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it has these different evolutions of the band. Yep, they

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made several albums without Phil Collins, yes, and had a

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few substantial success, and then they have several albums without

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Peter Gabriel even more success. That's even more success. And

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then they have a little in there where they had

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this guy named Steve Hackett, Yeah, who pulled the dumbest

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rip cord of all time.

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Speaker 3: And said got out right when things are getting hot,

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My gosh, But would you like to be that guy? Well?

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I mean he did, okay, he did okay, And we'll

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talk about him in a little bit when we kind

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of get into their history. But let's jump into this album, man.

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I mean, we've we've got a trinity of Genesis songs

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and albums in nineteen eighty five and nineteen eighty six.

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We are on our third of the three. Now, if

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you haven't listened, go back and check out our Peter

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Gabriel so album that we covered with Chad Briggs. Check

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out our No Jacket Require Phil Collins album and then

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here we are today to talk about Invisible Touch and

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how all of these things are married together in the past.

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Speaker 2: So let's just do a quick overview Invisible Touch. Okay,

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it was released June sixth of nineteen eighty six. That's

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after so and of course after No Jacket Required. Hugh

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Pageum is our producer on this one as well.

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Speaker 3: Yes, right, this is after.

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Speaker 2: You know, Genesis had to put out an album in

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eighty three, yep, and then you had the guys break

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up and do their own solo thing, but not break up,

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not break up.

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Speaker 3: Well, the BBC reported that they had broken up, right,

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They just said, would you guys like to go do

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some other stuff? And everybody was like, yeah, let's go

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do some other stuff.

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Speaker 2: So Tony Banks he goes and does a couple of

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albums soundtracks for movies. I looked at those movies. I

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didn't recognize any of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he said they were not very well received. And

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he said after doing that much work and getting that

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little reception on it, he wasn't really super interested in

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doing soundtracks anymore.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Mike Rutherford goes on and informs Mike and the Mechanics,

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which is a supergroup absolutely, and they have some huge

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hits in the mid eighties. Yeah, All I Need is

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a miracle, the Living Years, All.

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Speaker 3: I Need is a miracle. I came out before this, right, Yeah,

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that was eighty five, so he's right in that success

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as he comes into Invisible Touch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Silent Running, All I Need is a miracle.

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Speaker 3: Go check out our top five of nineteen eighty five

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earlier this year. Love that, Love that song, that fantastic song.

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And I didn't even realize it now he of course,

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he wasn't singing the lead vocals when he was with

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Mike and the Mechanics. He had a couple of other

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guys come in and sing, Paul Young and Paul Carrick. Yeah.

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I don't remember which one of them is, but one

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of them passed away, like Paul Young, Yeah, died in

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the hotel room over drug overdose. I believe that's the

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guy who sings All they Need is Miracle, which apparently

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that's what he needed and didn't get it too bad. Yep.

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Speaker 2: But the guys come back together with those three guys,

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Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford, Phil Collins. They looking at this

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blank piece of paper. They said, well, let's just improve

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our way and see what happens, and you get this

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unbelievable album.

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Speaker 3: Hey, when you're on your thirteenth album as a band,

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not to mention the other solo projects that they were

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just doing, and you show up and were like, well,

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let's just see what you can do. You can probably

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do some pretty impressive I saw that their typical day

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looked like they start about eleven am h and they'd

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finished about two am. That was about right for a musician, right.

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Speaker 2: Phil said, I heard him talking. He said, you get there,

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somebody else is doing their thing. You're standing around doing

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a whole lot of nothing. He said, Then pretty soon

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you start raiding their fridge. He said, I always put

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on weight while we did albums.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh, that's hilarious. So all right, well, let's dive

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in the first track, man, I mean, let's get this

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thing started, not wait any longer.

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Speaker 2: Jumping in track number one, Invisible Touch, shall we start

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off with a banger? My gosh, it's like it's like

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powder keg and several dollars city that intro. You are

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off and running like a bullet on this one.

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Speaker 3: Yep. I love the video on this one because it's

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them being goofy and themselves being silly before a show.

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little handheld cameras that they're doing stuff with and Phil

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is being silly with the drumsticks. And they finish off

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the video by singing a little a cappella version of

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the song together. And you're just like, these guys are

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rock stars and they're like dads up there, you know,

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being just goofy and silly.

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Speaker 2: It looks like the guys like the crew is working

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around them while they're screwing around. Yeah, Phil singing in

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his drumsticks, and I played it at the very beginning

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when you were still studying your notes. He has this

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real goofy yuck laugh at the beginning of it that

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cracks me up.

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Speaker 3: Yes, great videos, man, great videos. That's the problem.

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Speaker 2: Pal Baby, Pal, Pal hell on baby, give you all

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You're gone. And he's got his own little handheld camera.

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Speaker 3: Huh. This video costs about five dollars in a sandwich.

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It really did like they had They probably had the

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camera anyway, because they bring cameras to live shows all

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the time, and so it was just like, hey, let's

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just go ahead and make the video for this one today.

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We've got a couple of hours while the guys are

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setting up. Let's just do it now, right, Why not?

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Right now? I'm sure it was a chart topping number one.

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Speaker 2: This is a number one hitch. You want to hear

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the top five? Yes, of course this week in July

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of eighty six, eight six July nineteenth of eighty six.

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Number five is holding back the years by simply red.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Number four is danger Zone. Well, sure go check out

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our Top Gun soundtrack. Episode Number three is Nasty by

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Janet Jackson.

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Speaker 3: It was big back in the day. It's Jackson. If

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you're nasty, call her baby, It's Janet. It's Janet, It's Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Number two is Sledgehammer, of course from Peter Gabriel.

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Speaker 3: So yes, and.

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Speaker 2: Of course number one is Invisible Touch. Now when Invisible

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Touch gets knocked out the next week, it gets knocked

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out by Sledgehammer.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: We talked about the story how Phil said at the

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time they didn't realize it, but if they had, they

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had sent him a telegram saying congratulations, bastard Bustard. All right,

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so here's the thing. I'm gonna play a song for you.

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Can you tell me if this song reminds you of

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Invisible Touch?

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, So that's she le Yes. What's the

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name of the song. The song is called The Glamorous Life. Yeah,

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the Glamours Life. Yes, But do I think it sounds

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a lot like Invisible Touch? No. I mean there's a

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little similarity in the drum beat, but that's about it.

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Speaker 2: So we had we talked about how I think Sus

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Studio had a nineteen ninety nine feel Phil received some criticism.

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Speaker 3: Because I'm sorry clarified nineteen ninety nine, the song by

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Prince and the Revolution, that's right. I was like they

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were playing futuristic songs. Okay, I got.

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Speaker 2: You now right the song nineteen ninety nine by Prince.

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They felt like video sounded a little bit too much

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like Prince, right, Okay, like.

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Speaker 3: That song, yeah, still don't agree with I don't think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And he said, well, gosh, I'm I'm a fan

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of Prince. I love Prince music, you know, Purple rain,

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blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: Well this song.

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Speaker 2: Phil got his inspiration from the song The Glamorous Life

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by Shila e Oh.

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Speaker 3: He gave her credit for He gave her credit, So

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it's inspiration. It's not a it's not a copy, butay,

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but a I liked what you did here. I'm gonna

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take some of the tricks, which if you listen to

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all the greats, that's that's what they say. You know,

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good artists create great artists. Steel that's it. There you go,

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that's it. So do you know what this song is about? Well,

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I don't know her, but I know her name, So

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do I no tell me what it's about.

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Speaker 2: So obviously it's about a toxic woman who you just

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can't quite say no to. Yeah, she gets under your skin,

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she fs up your life, and you just can't quite

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say no to her. He says that large chunks of

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this song are about Andrea Bertarelli, the first wife, his

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first wife. Yes he called her Andy, and yes he

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did have problems saying no to her, even when.

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Speaker 3: She was rejecting him right right.

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Speaker 2: But if you'll allow me, I think the real woman

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who had a hold on his life that he just

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couldn't let go of. Her name was Levinya.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So Lavinya was the one that Andy and she

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both sang back up in Fill's original band, and then

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he ran into her later when he was married to Jill,

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his second wife, Yes, and had a little tryst.

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Speaker 2: They started a torrid love affair that destroyed her family

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and his and you know.

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Speaker 3: And cast him a lot of money ultimillion dollar divorce.

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That's right. The origin of this song.

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Speaker 2: It was originally part of Domino, which we're going to

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talk about here in a minute.

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Speaker 3: Part which part Domino Part one or Domino Part two? Well,

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exactly sure, all right, well we'll get to that. I mean,

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that's going to be side too, right, that is side

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to side too. So we got them ways to go

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Speaker 2: But they liked it so much they pulled it out

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of that song and said this needs to be its

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it's I mean, it's this. This is

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a fantastic song. It's no surprise to me that it's

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the number one single. But just as as a little hook,

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I'm just gonna tell you, we're going to talk about

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the band, the history of the band, Peter Gabriel's involvement

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with the band, and the guy who named the band

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who's now not allowed within five hundred feet of a school.

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And I'll tell you that story in a bit.

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Speaker 2: Okay, next song on the album. This song is called

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Tonight Tonight Tonight.

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Speaker 3: Okay, number one. The ding Ding Ding Dink is freaking

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cool as heck, it is this song. Yeah, it's like

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somebody beating on the prison bars or something like that.

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This song, to me, has got to be about some

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kind of an addiction, right. I mean, he's coming down

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like a monkey. I don't really know what that means,

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but I'm gonna assume that has something to do with

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a monkey on your back and he needs he needs help,

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and the person who he's talking to is and helping him.

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Speaker 2: So this is the mid eighties, Yes, when cocaine dust

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is on everything. Yes, the song was originally titled Monkey Zulu. Okay,

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it's about a cocaine dealer that they can't break free from.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this is true or just kind

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of a fairy tale or whatever, but it is sort

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of that Miami vice feel, that a Miami vice story.

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Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The cool thing to me is Michelobe was the sponsor

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for the Genesis American leg.

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Speaker 3: Of their tour.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I sent you a commercial the other day, a

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michelob commercial with Tonight Tonight Tonight as the song. And

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the michelub commercial in itself is like its own little

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Miami Vice episode.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty cool. Okay. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: This song was not going to be released as a

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single until that commercial really took off.

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Speaker 3: Oh so the commercial using the song came out before

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the song. It came out as a single.

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it hadn't been for that commercial, we wouldn't have released it.

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Speaker 3: It been like just this long thing, kind of like Domino. Yeah,

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I mean I noticed whenever I listened to it on

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the album, I was surprised at how long it was.

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I mean, the song's something like nine minutes long. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: And so they released it and it goes to number

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three the list I do so. Number five is come

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Go with Me by Expose, which I it's a dance song.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 2: Number four Let's Wait a While by Jenny Jackson. Okay,

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you ain't getting any Tonight song, right, okay? Number three

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Tonight Tonight Tonight. Number two Lean On Me by Club nouveau.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that was everywhere it was.

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Speaker 2: And then number one, Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now.

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Speaker 3: By Starship, Oh my gosh, this big hit from Annequin.

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I was gonna say this the big hit for me.

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How does this song not beat those two songs? I

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don't know, I don't know. This song is among the

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best in the album.

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Speaker 2: I almost spike the football, but I've got I'm holding

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out for one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's interesting. I'm holding out too. Well, we'll see

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how it goes. I've actually got a surprise discovery on

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this album too, so I'm anxious to talk about that

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one as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have a nugget on this song that I'm

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dying to tell, but that you are raining me in

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on this.

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Speaker 3: So tell the story.

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Speaker 2: So last, So I'm watching the video for Tonight Tonight Tonight, Yeah,

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and I'm looking at the location where this video was shot,

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and I'm like, wait a minute, I recognize this place.

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I know where they are, And so I tell you,

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I'm like, dude, watch this video and tell me if

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I'm crazy. Yeah, I didn't google this, I just recognized it.

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And You're like, hey, I think it's where this movie

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was shot, and I'm like me.

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Speaker 3: Too, uh huh, and you looked it up. Then I

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googled it and we were right. We are right. Okay,

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So now, well we're gonna leave this as a little teaser.

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Where this video was shot. Another movie that we have

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covered in the past was shot at the same place.

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If you're listening to my voice right now, comment on

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the YouTube video, or comment on the Spotify or whatever

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podcast you're using, or email us or hit us up

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on Twitter or whatever. But you tell us what you

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think the movie was that used the same setting as

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the Tonight Tonight Tonight video, And I will give you

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one more hint. June nineteen eighty two. That's too easy.

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You can't tell that. I can. There are a lot

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of fantastic movie that came out in June of nineteen

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eighty two, and we've covered several of them. But okay,

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there you go.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that nugget just wants to leap out of my now.

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Speaker 3: When you very first told me, you were like, I've

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got this nugget that's dying to come out, and I

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was like, are we talking about trivia or are the

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Fouwel movement? Yes, okay, I suppose that it's a good

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ending for that for that song, right, What's next on

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the album, my friend?

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Speaker 2: Next song on the album is a song called Land

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of Confusion.

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Speaker 3: Spike in the Football. This is the best song on

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the album. This is the best song on it. It

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is best song of this This is the one song

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off the album that I had downloaded on my phone

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for years now because it's it's just that good. It's

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so good, right, yes, and it's so eighties yes. And

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then you've got with the video, You've got this incredible

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time capsule from that time period. And we're talking about

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nineteen eighty six, and Gorbachev and Reagan are at the

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front of your TV at all times. Everybody is fully

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invested in the Cold War, and who would have guessed

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that a mere three years later the wall would come

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tumbling down and Communism would fall. Okay, So the Muppets

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or whatever these guys are, they're the spitting image guys

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like Sidough. I used to watch this show. They had

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a show on HBO and obviously, as you've noted, they're

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they're like puppets, but it was a very adult humor

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kind of show that they had on HBO, and I

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used to watch them all the time, and then when

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I saw this video, I was like, Oh, these are

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these guys and they're they're caricatures. Caricatures of Phil Collins

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and Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks are all on point.

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You've got this whole kind of weird Ronald Reagan's having

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a dream where he's Superman trying to save the world

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from the Ebel Gorbachef, and I think the video ends

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with him accidentally setting off the nuclear bomb.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I've got the list on who is actually

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featured in this video. Keep in mind, every one of

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these puppets cost ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Ten thousand bucks for each one of these wow, which

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is probably why they shot the Invisible Touch video in

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a warehouse with handheld cameras.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you've.

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Speaker 2: Got Ronald and Nancy Reagan. You also have Bonzo, which is.

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Speaker 3: The monkey from Rocky, the Ronald Reagan movie. That's right.

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What was it bringing a Bonzo? Bringing up Bonzo? That's right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, You've got Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford, Phil Collins, You've

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got Mussolini, Komani, Gorbachef, Kadafi. Then you've got a Rhino.

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You've got Johnny Carson, Richard, Nick Spock, Bob Hope. You

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have dinosaurs, you have Margaret Thatcher, you have Prince, Pete Townsend,

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Tina Turner, Madonna with a talking belly button. So you

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have Grace Jones, Mick Jagger. It's basically a recreation of

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that We Are in the World video. You got Michael Jackson,

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Bette Midler.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what I thought.

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Speaker 2: Princess Diana, right, Princess Diana Sting, Bruce Springsteen, Hulk Cogan,

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and Pope John Paul the Second on guitar.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's I don't know how many names you just mentioned,

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but if each one of those is really ten thousand dollars,

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that's an expensive cast of character. That's yes.

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Speaker 2: So this won the nineteen eighty seven Grammy for Best

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Concept Video.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: It was also up for six categories in the TV

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Music Awards, Okay, and it lost every single category to Sledgehammer.

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Speaker 3: That's tragic, right, And listen, this is a.

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Speaker 2: One of the most iconic music videos of the eighties. Absolutely, so,

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I think it can be attributed to the success of

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the song, but I also kind of feel like it's

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an anchor around the song because the video is silly

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and the song is serious.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, I mean it's

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a serious subject. But I mean that's what satire is is.

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It's making funny comments about something that's very serious.

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Speaker 2: This was the third single. It reached number four on

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the Hot one hundred YEP. Number three is selelev by

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Robbie Neville. It's a good one. I liked it. Number

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two Open Your Heart by Madonna, okay, kind of the

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peep Show video, and number one at This Moment by

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Billy Vera and the.

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Speaker 3: Oh right by the way, guys, that's It's a little

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tip of the hat to one of our Patreon episodes.

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If you are interested in hearing about one hit wonders,

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go check out our Patreon page. We've got we' at

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a lot of them now, dang, we've been doing this

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for years. We think of a bunch of those. And

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you get the full access to the full catalog of

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all of our one hit wonders plus all of our

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for all of our Patreo members.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you, guys. Yeah, I truly appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've got a quick story on the creation of

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this song. Okay, okay, So this is a Mike Rutherford song.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: So he was in charge of writing the lyrics for

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this song.

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Speaker 3: Ye okay.

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Speaker 2: Well, he was really sick and they were up to

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like this massive deadline. They had to get it done.

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And so he has like the flu, He's got like

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one hundred and three temperature. He's in bed dying. So

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Phil goes to his house and sits there like a

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secretary and is like, all right, here's the next verset

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what he got and he just like from his flu

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ridden sweatsuch soaked sheets, he gives him the lyrics to

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this song. Wow, and you get this never Monster.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. That's incredible. Yes, that is incredible. I cannot believe

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this didn't hit number one. Blows my mind.

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Speaker 2: It's better than the two songs in front of it, Yes,

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including our Patreon Yeah it is it is. Okay, just

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a couple more nuggets for you on this song. I

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think it's fantastic. This was the opening concert song in

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their nineteen ninety two tour, kicking it off with a bang.

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You start the concert with Atlanta Confusion. That's how you

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know your catalog is loaded. Yeah, Disturbed, the rock band

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Disturbed came out with their version of this song. It

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went to number one on the Hot Rocks chart. YEP,

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And this is the only song to be featured from

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this album in any way on Miami Vice.

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Speaker 3: Really yes, now, this was the time for any Phil

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Collins song to be in Miami Vice. But of this

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mega album, there's only one song. You get episode information

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for us. Episode is called free Fall. Okay, seems like

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they should have got Tom Petty for that one, right, Right.

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Speaker 2: So I looked at the clip, right, you got Crockett

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and Tubs and they're chasing down this bad guy who's

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played by Ian McShane, right, and he's a general from

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a Central America type of country, Okay, and they're spying

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on him and the girl that is bringing a bag

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full of money to him. Crockett says, I bet what

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she sees in him is right there in that bag.

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Speaker 3: Bamy Vice classic eighties lines. I love it all right.

470
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,839
Next song on the album, YEP, this song is called

471
00:24:32,319 --> 00:24:48,599
in Too Deep. I was searching, right, this has to

472
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,079
be on the Makeout Playlist of nineteen eighty six.

473
00:24:51,759 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one was released in eighty seven, so for me,

474
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,680
it's make Out List eighty seven. Yeah, this song was

475
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:58,920
written for a movie.

476
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 3: Most people don't even know that. Okay, so this the

477
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,200
movie that you're referring to is the Mona Lisa movie?

478
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,759
Is that right? That's right? So as I understood it,

479
00:25:09,759 --> 00:25:12,200
I heard Phil talk talking about this and the only

480
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,400
reason my ears parked up because you had mentioned this

481
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,079
movie when we were talking before. They had this song

482
00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:21,319
and they had already like composed the song, but when

483
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,160
the people making Mona Lisa hit them up, they're like, oh,

484
00:25:25,319 --> 00:25:29,680
well we've got this, but let's rewrite the lyrics, and

485
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,759
so they adjusted the lyrics to more be in line

486
00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:35,519
with what the movie was. So it wasn't created for

487
00:25:35,599 --> 00:25:37,680
the movie, but they rewrote the lyrics so that it

488
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,079
would make sense with the movie. Okay, that's interesting. Yeah.

489
00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:44,559
So this movie stars Bob Hoskins, which we talked about

490
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:49,119
as a potential twin of the Third Bear and the

491
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,119
Three Danny de v that's Phil Collins.

492
00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: And don't forget Kim Basinger is Goldielucks right, right, So

493
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:57,839
here's my quick Bob Hoskins story.

494
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 3: Right, So I called you last night. We were talking.

495
00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: If you've ever watched Hooframe Roger Rabbit, it sounds like

496
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,960
he's from Queens. I mean, he's got a New York

497
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,119
accent and blah blah blah.

498
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 3: Weall we hear him on a talk show.

499
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 2: He's got a real thick English accent. Yep, okay, And

500
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,960
he was telling a story. He was asked by Brian

501
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:20,000
de Palma to star as al Capone in The Untouchables, right,

502
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,200
And so they were talking about it and Bob Hoskin's like, yeah,

503
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,039
I'd love to be al Capone, and Brian Opalma said, well,

504
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,079
I've asked Robert de Niro. He's my number one. If

505
00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:32,119
he accepts, I got to give it to him. But

506
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,400
if he doesn't, you're in because he's just really hard

507
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,559
to pin down. So time goes on. Of course, Robert

508
00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:40,759
de Niro accepts and they make the movie. Well Bob

509
00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:43,880
Hoskins thought, well that ship sailed obviously, and they didn't

510
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,079
want me, and I didn't ever hear anything back, and

511
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,519
that's just kind of how it goes. So one day

512
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,839
he goes to his mailbox, and he opens up a

513
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,960
letter from Brian de Palma and it says, dear Bob,

514
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:54,759
thanks so much.

515
00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:56,039
Speaker 3: You know here you.

516
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 2: Go, says check for two hundred thousand dollars, And so

517
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,319
Bob Hoskins sent a letter back to Brian Opalmas, like,

518
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,000
if you ever want me to not be in any

519
00:27:06,039 --> 00:27:08,160
other movies, you just let me know.

520
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: Wow?

521
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,799
Speaker 3: How about that? Wow that? Yeah? Hey, guys, if you're

522
00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:17,680
ever gonna send me a check in the mail for

523
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,640
two hundred thousand dollars, will you give me a text

524
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,200
let me know it's coming and keep an eye out

525
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,440
for it so I don't shrind it, so you know whatever.

526
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,599
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, So this song reached number three in

527
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:38,880
June of eighty seven. Just keeps.

528
00:27:40,039 --> 00:27:40,319
Speaker 3: Okay.

529
00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: Here's your top five always by Atlantic Star, Makeout Song

530
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,359
Extraordinary right, number four alone by Heart.

531
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:52,559
Speaker 3: Well we love that for sure, love that makeout song.

532
00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:55,519
Probably my favorite heart song of the eighties, right.

533
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, Number two and Too Deep by Genesis, Number two,

534
00:27:58,599 --> 00:28:02,079
Head to Toe by Lisa Lisa in Cold Jam Jam yep.

535
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,039
And number one I Want to Dance with Somebody.

536
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,279
Speaker 3: Whitney Whitney Houston. Wow, Well that's not a bad.

537
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,799
Speaker 2: List the album that kept Girls, Girls Girls out of

538
00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:15,559
the number one spot, although Nicky six smells rat go

539
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,960
back to our Girls Girls Girls episode on that. Yep,

540
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,720
all right, everybody hit stop on your tape player, kick

541
00:28:20,759 --> 00:28:22,880
it out, flip it over for a side two, and

542
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,240
we start off with the song anything She Does.

543
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,839
Speaker 3: Tell me you don't hear this song and think of

544
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,880
the Heat is on by Glenn Fry from Beverly Hills

545
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:46,880
Cop three. Yea from Beverly Hills Cop Sorry, Fredian slip

546
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:52,480
there nightmares about Beverly Hills Cop three. But that the

547
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,799
kind of thumpy bass that they've got on this and

548
00:28:54,839 --> 00:28:57,079
the quick pace, this just very much seems like the

549
00:28:57,119 --> 00:28:57,720
heat is on to me.

550
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can hear it kind of with that the

551
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,519
horns and stuff, theah yeah, exactly.

552
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: That's it. Okay.

553
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: I feel like this has been played a thousand times

554
00:29:05,519 --> 00:29:06,960
at Oklahoma basketball games.

555
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: Oh okay, right.

556
00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:12,279
Speaker 2: I reached out to our resident Oklahoma basketball experts Patreon

557
00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:15,759
members Doug Gray and Blaine Peterson, and I said, guys,

558
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,519
tell me this song. I'm not crazy, this song has

559
00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:21,039
been played at Ou basketball games and they both said

560
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:24,599
the same thing. I think it was Billy don't forget

561
00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:25,920
my number from Phillip Collins.

562
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, shoot, and maybe it was so because you're

563
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,359
not anywhere I can't find you. All right, Well that's interesting.

564
00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:35,960
So this song was not released as a single. Huh,

565
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,079
but it did have a video. Yeah, yeah, you were

566
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:41,440
emphatic that I watched the video, and I got to

567
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,720
watch the video. I'm very glad that I did. You

568
00:29:43,799 --> 00:29:46,759
mentioned the page three girl in there, and.

569
00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:48,799
Speaker 2: There's two page three girls in there.

570
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: Well, there was one on the page three in the

571
00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:55,279
page three, on the page three and then on the camera.

572
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,279
And I told you, I was like, I remember this

573
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,599
video from when I was like ten years old, because

574
00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:11,839
I was like, is she wearing a top? She covered up? There?

575
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,279
Are they allowed to show this? What is going on?

576
00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:19,160
But you've got Benny Hill as the as chief of security,

577
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:24,960
T Fred Scuttle. Yes, and he says security will not

578
00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:29,519
be laxative here today. Yes. Yeah, we don't want people

579
00:30:29,519 --> 00:30:32,000
coming in without the pass. That's time they came in

580
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:33,680
and we didn't even invite them, and they had all

581
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,640
the food and then and he's like, if they don't

582
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,720
have a pass, they're out in their ear.

583
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, let me go see if the boys

584
00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:46,359
are sober. I mean, if you go see the boys

585
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:49,799
are ready, it's like a farce. He's people are trying

586
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:51,200
to sneak into the gist.

587
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: It's the old Benny Hill gags of you know, quick

588
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,079
frame running around, chasing around people, sneaking in. It's it's

589
00:30:58,079 --> 00:30:59,480
a fun little bit, it really is.

590
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:03,599
Speaker 2: Tony Banks said, the inspiration for this song. Uh huh

591
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,759
were the pin ups and sort of centerfolds that they

592
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,599
had on the wall while they were.

593
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,039
Speaker 3: Writing this album. The scantily clad women. Well, everybody needs inspiration.

594
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,599
I told you.

595
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: I think Samantha Fox started off as a page three girl.

596
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

597
00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:20,519
Speaker 2: Also in the video, I noticed there's a whole lot

598
00:31:20,519 --> 00:31:21,599
of Kim Wild gear.

599
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: Really, kids in America. Kim Wild, Kim Kids in America.

600
00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:27,000
You keep me hanging on.

601
00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:30,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm guessing she was opening for Genesis at that time.

602
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:32,039
Speaker 3: Okay, very cool.

603
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: By the way, did you notice the Princess Diana look

604
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,480
alike in the video?

605
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: I did, actually, yes, wearing the little like tuxedo shirt

606
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,640
with a bread bow tie. What kind of outfit was that,

607
00:31:43,799 --> 00:31:46,240
I don't know, I don't know, but she definitely had

608
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:49,359
the right color hair, right cut of hair to be

609
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,480
a Princess died Deevil.

610
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: If you haven't heard our Princess Diana Story with Phil Collins.

611
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: Go back and check out that episode. It is worth.

612
00:31:57,039 --> 00:31:59,839
It is worth the listen. I read last week on

613
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:02,640
No Jacket Record. That's great, Okay. Next song on the

614
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,799
album is called Domino.

615
00:32:11,559 --> 00:32:14,119
Speaker 1: No need to look outside.

616
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:15,519
Speaker 2: To see.

617
00:32:18,279 --> 00:32:21,119
Speaker 3: Okay. So my first question for you is is this

618
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:25,880
separated on the tape, because if it's on Spotify, you're

619
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,960
looking at Domino parentheses Part one and two. Did they

620
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,519
separate it out on the DVD or CD or the

621
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,839
tape or any of that. I don't believe. So, so

622
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,519
this is a part one and part two songs. And

623
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,519
my next question is which part do you like better?

624
00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:42,960
I like the last Domino better. Yeah, part two is

625
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:46,039
my choice as well. The first part I was like, Okay,

626
00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:48,119
this is gonna be a long, ten minute song. But

627
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,519
then in about four minutes in they downshift and it

628
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,359
becomes a thumping, epic arena rock kind of song. And

629
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:15,039
I love the second half for sure.

630
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,759
Speaker 2: They're really proud of this one, yeah, and I'm just

631
00:33:18,839 --> 00:33:20,079
kind of like, okay, whatever, you know.

632
00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:25,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a single. It's more like Old Genesis.

633
00:33:25,599 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's longer. They're kind of weaving here and there.

634
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:32,279
Speaker 3: So we say Old Genesis. We still really haven't talked

635
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:35,480
about them as a band and how they the Genesis

636
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:38,039
of Genesis if you will, all right, yeah, okay. So

637
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,559
Charterhouse founded in sixteen eleven by Thomas Sutton. About four

638
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,279
hundred years later, four hundred and fifty years later, the

639
00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:53,079
boys Peter Gabriel and Tony Banks and eventually Mike Rutherford

640
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:58,240
and Anthony Phillips Aunt Phillips all were going to school

641
00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:01,160
there and all hated it and kind of hit it

642
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,359
off with each other about how much they hated the school,

643
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:08,119
and so Tony Banks and Peter Gabriel started a band

644
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,920
with a drummer named Chris Stewart, and that band was

645
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:17,159
called Garden Wall Yes. And then Mike Rutherford and Anthony

646
00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:21,159
Phillips were in a band called A Noon for Anonymous,

647
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:24,360
which I guess they had to be anonymous because apparently

648
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,400
it was against the rules to play the music, and

649
00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:30,119
Mike Rutherford actually got banned had to leave to leave

650
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,719
the band because he got banned from playing the guitar

651
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,480
for a time, and then eventually got the band lifted

652
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,480
and was able to play with a non again. But

653
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,800
you know, Chris left the band and Mike Rutherford and

654
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,119
Anthony Phillips and Peter Gabriel and Tony Banks all joined

655
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:48,480
up together to form a new band. And they were

656
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,159
actually doing some pretty good music. And there was a

657
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,239
kid from Charterhouse who had gone to school there about

658
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,760
four years earlier, who had had a kind of a

659
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,719
hit single. His name was Jonathan Hill, and his hit

660
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,679
single was Everyone's Been to the Moon. I listened to

661
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,119
it today, it sounds like a song from the sixties.

662
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,800
It's just a kind of yeah, it's just a kind

663
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,639
of a groovy, little yeah, groovy kind of love if

664
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:20,880
you will nice. And so they contacted him. They were like, hey,

665
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,320
you know, can you help us get signed, get a

666
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,519
record deal, get recorded, all that stuff. And he had

667
00:35:26,519 --> 00:35:28,239
made a little money off of the single, and he

668
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,719
absolutely fell in love with Peter Gabriel's voice, and so

669
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:36,199
he said, yes, but your band needs to change his name.

670
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:42,239
My suggestion is Gabriel's Angels. Yeah, okay, cool, And so

671
00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:44,880
I'm sure Peter was fine with that, but everybody else

672
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,159
was like, uh, how a new I'm out on that.

673
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,159
So Jonathan Hill's next suggestion was, yes, I want to

674
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,079
keep this keep a biblical idea. Why don't you guys

675
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,239
use the band name Genesis? And everybody was cool with that.

676
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,360
I mean, it's like, hey, it's the beginning of a thing,

677
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:04,880
So Genesis seems appropriate. And so Jonathan Hill works with

678
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,960
them to produce their very first album, which is called

679
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,159
From Genesis to Revelation. I like it. It sold whopping

680
00:36:12,519 --> 00:36:16,320
six hundred and forty nine copies. Hey got start somewhere,

681
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:19,480
that's right. So when it did as poorly as that,

682
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:22,159
Jonathan Hill was out, which is probably good for them

683
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,639
because around the time that these albums that we're talking

684
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:28,400
about today were coming out, he was involved in some

685
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,400
things that would get him in trouble. About fifteen years later,

686
00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:36,400
two thousand, he gets accused by twenty seven men of

687
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,519
having had inappropriate sexual relations with them when they were

688
00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:44,920
fourteen and fifteen years old back in the mid eighties,

689
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,920
and five of the twenty seven charges stick. He got

690
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,159
acquitted on twenty two, but five of them he was

691
00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:56,360
found guilty got sentenced to seven years in prison. Fought it,

692
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,320
of course, still fighting it, still advocating that it didn't happen.

693
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,519
But yes, the guy who came up with the very

694
00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:12,880
biblical band name for Genesis is a sex sitter. Okay, wow, okay, well,

695
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,960
so how does Phil become involved in Genesis? Okay, So

696
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,239
you've got Peter Gabriel singing, you've got Anthony Phillips playing guitar,

697
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,360
Microtherford is playing bass at this time, Tony Banks is

698
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,159
still playing keyboard. They all can play other instruments, and

699
00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:29,159
so they'll switch around, especially if they're doing kind of

700
00:37:29,159 --> 00:37:32,480
pastoral songs or something like that. But while it's them,

701
00:37:32,639 --> 00:37:36,840
they do from Genesis to Revelation, they do trespass. So

702
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:41,599
those guys together do from Genesis to Revelation in sixty nine,

703
00:37:41,639 --> 00:37:45,159
they do trespass in seventy, Nursery Crime in seventy one,

704
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,519
and Foxtrot in seventy two. Okay, and so it's at

705
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,880
Foxtrot this is the stage like they're doing their best,

706
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,480
they're trying to make it, but they still haven't had

707
00:37:55,519 --> 00:37:58,760
a lot of success. But then Peter Gabriel walks out

708
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:05,000
on stage in a woman a red woman's evening gown

709
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,800
with a gigantic fox head over his head. Uh huh,

710
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,480
And I think you mentioned to me that the other

711
00:38:11,519 --> 00:38:14,679
guys had a response to this. They were like what,

712
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,760
they had no idea he was going to do it,

713
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,159
no idea, And so there he is on stage and

714
00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:23,360
they're like, what the what does Peter do? You know? Right? Well,

715
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,360
the answer is it was a gimmick. And the solution

716
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,480
is the gimmick worked because overnight, because it was such

717
00:38:30,519 --> 00:38:35,000
a ridiculous presentation, they got tons of news coverage and

718
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:38,679
suddenly they were getting asked to do more shows, bigger shows,

719
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:43,760
more money. And so for Foxtrot, that was that was

720
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,719
that album. That album sales picked up after that stunt,

721
00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:51,320
and then they release Selling England by the Pound, which

722
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,639
is where they get their biggest to that at that

723
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:59,719
point hit. And then a guy named William Freakin. William Friedkin,

724
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,559
you remember who that is? He wrote the Exorcist? Is

725
00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:06,400
that right? I think he directed the Exercisa, Yes, but

726
00:39:06,559 --> 00:39:09,239
he was That's who he was, Yes, the director of

727
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,360
the Exorcist. And he's reading their album notes and he's like,

728
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,679
I would really like to write a movie with this

729
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,960
Peter Gabriel guy. I think he's really got something like

730
00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:24,559
on my weird kind of horrific spectrum. I want to

731
00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:27,559
write a movie with him, and so he approaches him

732
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:29,800
and Peter Gabriel is like, hey, guys, you know this

733
00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:32,320
big movie directors asked me to help him write a movie.

734
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,679
Is it okay with you if I could do that?

735
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,000
And they're like, we're not finished with the album. No,

736
00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:39,559
it's not okay, and they basically are like, if you're leave,

737
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:42,960
you're leaving the band. And he's like, well, okay, and

738
00:39:43,039 --> 00:39:45,159
he goes and does it, and it's this kind of

739
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,079
scary moment and William Friedkin's like, I don't want to

740
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:51,320
break up the band. So he basically is like, this

741
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,480
is just a maybe thing. You know, you shouldn't do this,

742
00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:56,559
and he sends Peter back. But at that point, that

743
00:39:56,639 --> 00:40:00,480
kind of possibility of like Peter may just up and

744
00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:05,400
quit any time. Is now a parent. And then he

745
00:40:05,519 --> 00:40:10,360
becomes a parent. He has a little son who has

746
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,159
some medical issues and what he's wanting to spend more

747
00:40:13,199 --> 00:40:17,119
time with the son and these young dumb musicians are like, listen, man,

748
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:19,079
you need to be committed. And he was like, you

749
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:21,039
know what, it's okay. I'm just gonna you guys keep

750
00:40:21,079 --> 00:40:22,559
going and I'm gonna go do something else.

751
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,519
Speaker 2: It is kind of like telling your wife like, what

752
00:40:26,559 --> 00:40:32,280
do you think about maybe getting a divorce and then saying, oh.

753
00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 3: I just kidd't. Yeah, you know, not really not really

754
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,159
at that moment it fractured. Well, but you got to

755
00:40:38,199 --> 00:40:40,239
tell the story how Phil Collins gets involved because this

756
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,440
is all after Phil. Okay, right, I'm sorry, Yeah, I

757
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,639
forgot about how so they lose they lose their drummer

758
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,440
and so they put out an ad in the paper.

759
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:51,679
And as I mentioned, when we did a Phil Collins episode,

760
00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:54,800
Phil had been an actor. Was at starred as the

761
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,639
artful Dodger in Oliver on at west End, which is

762
00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:01,320
I mean, that's a big deal. And he had said, Dad,

763
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,320
I'm giving up acting. I'm going to go be a musician.

764
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,320
And he was. He was basically panhandling, going door to

765
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,360
door trying to find stuff, and he sees this ad

766
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,239
and melody maker of this audition for to play with

767
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,480
this band, and he recognized the band name and he

768
00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:17,239
goes over to listen to I sent you that ad yesterday,

769
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,679
Yes you did, yes.

770
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: And it's kind of trying to be a nonymous like

771
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,800
we need a drummer for an established band, but we're

772
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,960
not telling you who it is, and that way people

773
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:28,840
won't freak out.

774
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,079
Speaker 3: Right, And so he said when he showed up, he

775
00:41:31,159 --> 00:41:34,280
was in awe at first because these guys, this charter

776
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,000
school they met at is a high dollar school, right,

777
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,039
and he grew up in a much lower class, if

778
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:43,239
he will. But he was amazed at the house that

779
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,039
he was at. But he showed up with a bunch

780
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:47,199
of other guys who are auditioning, and he said, I

781
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,559
just kind of chilled out and hung out at the pool,

782
00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:52,599
but listened to what everybody else was doing. And I

783
00:41:52,639 --> 00:41:55,199
would listen and say, Okay, well there's that guy's mistake.

784
00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:57,840
And so I'm listening to the songs that they're having

785
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,320
them audition. I'm listening to the mistake these guys are making.

786
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,519
He's like, one guy took ten minutes to warm up.

787
00:42:03,559 --> 00:42:06,800
I'm like, that's a terrible idea, and he says, so

788
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,320
by the end of it, he was like, it is.

789
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:10,360
I feel like I probably would have gotten chos in

790
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,679
any way, but I kind of had the upper hand

791
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,840
because I had this opportunity to hear what was going

792
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,199
on here, the mistakes, and then bring my a game.

793
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: His buddy went with him. It was a they needed

794
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,440
a guitar player and a drummer, so they both auditioned.

795
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,079
They thought maybe as a team, we might have a

796
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:27,880
better shot at it. Yeah, and when they left, his buddy,

797
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,119
who is the guitar player, was like, dude, I think

798
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:30,679
you blew that.

799
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 3: And it feels like really I thought I did. Okay,

800
00:42:35,159 --> 00:42:38,840
you know, yeah, yeah, that's right. So yeah, well, and

801
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,599
then of course Peter continues to do the crazy stuff

802
00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:46,559
with the costumes even more, and it's it's not just

803
00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:48,440
a surprise of the man in the more, it's it's

804
00:42:48,519 --> 00:42:51,320
pissing them off. Like he's like, you can't even with

805
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,280
a giant mask he's got on, he can't even get

806
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,760
his head next to the microphone anymore. That's right, it

807
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:57,760
doesn't make any sense.

808
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: And we're talking ridiculous costumes like the old Man, and

809
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,679
he's like he looks like the grapes from the Fruit

810
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,320
of the Loom commercials and it's really weird stuff out there.

811
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,559
Speaker 3: Stuff. Yeah. So they release a lamb lies down on

812
00:43:10,639 --> 00:43:15,320
Broadway and basically they know that Peter's out at this point.

813
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,360
He comes back to kind of do that tour with them,

814
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,480
but they know and he knows he's ultimately going to

815
00:43:21,519 --> 00:43:24,480
be gone, and so they're they were like, okay, well,

816
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,159
we've got to audition people to be our new singer.

817
00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:31,920
And so Phil has been the backup singer for Peter

818
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,599
Gabriel for multiple albums at this point, and they say, okay, well,

819
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:38,079
you know, Phil will show you how to sing this

820
00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:40,039
part to each of the new people that are auditioning,

821
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,320
and every time, Phil's like, no, it's not this, it's this.

822
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,559
It's not this, it's this, And the guys are finally

823
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:49,159
like Phil, like you know the songs, why don't you

824
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,880
do this? And he's like, you know what, Okay, let

825
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,079
me try it, let me see it. Let's see what

826
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:53,840
I can do. I'll go. I'll give it a go.

827
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,280
And so he sings all of the songs on the album,

828
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,599
and the new album is called a Trick of the

829
00:44:08,639 --> 00:44:11,280
Tale and is the best selling album that they had

830
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,800
had to date, and it was nineteen seventy six. Okay.

831
00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:18,440
After they produced the album, they're like, okay, Phil, well,

832
00:44:18,679 --> 00:44:20,760
I mean you're behind the drums, so we really have

833
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,840
to have a singer out in front, so we're gonna

834
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,000
have to audition singers and find somebody. And he's like

835
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,159
or we could audition other drummers. Yeah, and they're like, yeah, okay,

836
00:44:29,199 --> 00:44:30,840
we can do that, and so that's what they did

837
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,840
to tour. A trick of the tale was they had

838
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,440
a new drummer come in the back and Fill got

839
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,079
to come out front.

840
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 2: Yes, And so you know, you and I were kind

841
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,039
of going through their catalog and at what point did

842
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:42,039
you become aware of Genesis?

843
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was it was not until the eighties.

844
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,840
It was not until the eighties. So Steve Hackett had

845
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,880
joined them in nineteen seventy after Aunt Phillips left, and

846
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,920
he had been with them through all of those albums,

847
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,039
but then in seventy seven he literally leaves the band.

848
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,559
He doesn't tell them he's leaving. He literally is just

849
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:03,320
like silence, Like he ghosts them. As the kids say,

850
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,400
these days, he doesn't show up. I heard this story

851
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,920
like Phil saw him walking on the street and Phil

852
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,000
knew they were supposed to be in the studio. He's like, hey, dude,

853
00:45:11,559 --> 00:45:13,880
do you need a lyft uh huh. Guy's like no,

854
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,039
I'll call you later. I was like, okay, Yeah. He

855
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:20,880
gets to the studio and they're like, dude, he's out. Yeah,

856
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,599
he took off. He just left right before they exploded.

857
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,800
Right now, what he does is he goes and starts

858
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,960
a band with Steve Howe from Yes. So that's not

859
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:35,239
too shabby, that's that's not a bad bet because you've

860
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,760
got Yes who I mean huge prog rock Genesis during

861
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,079
the seventies was one of the prog rock bands right

862
00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:45,480
right up there with Yes and Super Tramp, right yeah.

863
00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:48,280
And so they form a band called gt R, which

864
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:53,639
is the abbreviation for guitar GTR. I've heard of them.

865
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,079
They have one song that does pretty well, but the

866
00:45:56,119 --> 00:45:59,199
rest of them are just kind of no no hitters,

867
00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:01,280
and it doesn't really go anywhere, not.

868
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: Like Genesis, who is blowing the roof off in the

869
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,400
eighties and nineties.

870
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,079
Speaker 3: Right. So then after after Steve Hackett leaves, it's now

871
00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:11,320
just Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford, and Phil Collins. And of

872
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,519
course they named the album and then there were three.

873
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:25,760
But to answer your question, yes, it was nineteen eighty Misunderstanding.

874
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:28,239
That was when the Duke is the album that was

875
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,519
it was on Misunderstanding was the song that I first

876
00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:32,679
remember hearing from them. I don't know that I was

877
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,480
like comprehending Genesis was the band that did this, but

878
00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:37,159
I know that song, yeah for sure.

879
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 2: Misunderstanding came out in nineteen eighty I think eighty one

880
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,159
you had No Reply at all in abacab yep, and

881
00:46:43,199 --> 00:46:45,960
then in eighty three You've got That's All, which I

882
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:48,000
think I had that on one of my best of

883
00:46:48,039 --> 00:46:49,880
eighty three or eighty four.

884
00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 3: I can't remember, probably yeah and Mama.

885
00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:56,639
Speaker 2: And Mama and taking It All to Hard. That was

886
00:46:56,679 --> 00:46:57,360
a really good song.

887
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,159
Speaker 3: I love that one. By the way. That album, which

888
00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:05,519
is called Genesis Yes, was released on October third, nineteen

889
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:08,960
eighty three. Happy Birthday, d yep, my eighth birthday as

890
00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:12,760
that album was released, and then after eighty three they

891
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,960
go doing their solo projects and then they come back

892
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,800
with Invisible Touch. Yes, all right, ready for our next song,

893
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,840
next song on the album, next on the album Throwing

894
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:42,840
It All Away, a heartbreaking breakup song. I think this

895
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,679
is like a divorce song, right yeah, yeah, or you know,

896
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,800
if you're in high school, it's breaking up song. Oh yeah,

897
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,039
oh yeah.

898
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,519
Speaker 2: I would have bet my final paycheck that Phil Collins

899
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:55,280
wrote this song because he was famous for writing breakup

900
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,039
divorce songs.

901
00:47:56,159 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 3: Sure. The song's written by Mike Rutherford. Oh, okay, Man,

902
00:47:59,519 --> 00:48:02,280
Mike had a ton of the very big hits on

903
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:02,840
this album.

904
00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: He had landa confusion, Yeah, and he had thrown it

905
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,599
all away. So this was the second single released August

906
00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:11,880
of eighty six. I do distinctly remember when I broke

907
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,760
up with one of my girlfriends, or actually when she

908
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,880
dumped me. And she dumped me, I was like, you mean,

909
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:38,119
we're throwing it all three months, three months out the window.

910
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,639
Speaker 3: You just gotta throw three of the greatest months of

911
00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:44,320
our lives away? Is that what you tell? What have

912
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:52,960
we been doing this?

913
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 2: This song reached number four on the Hot one hundred

914
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,360
October eleventh of eighty six.

915
00:48:57,639 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: Tell me the three songs that beat it out? Yeah? Okay?

916
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,599
So three is two of Heart's by Stacey Q. Two

917
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,239
of Heart's, Yeah I know.

918
00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 2: Number two is Don't You Forget About Me by the

919
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:10,639
Simple Minds.

920
00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 3: Well word, that's yeah, patre Binder, go back to Patreon.

921
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,400
That's one of the first ones we govered.

922
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: Okay, before I give you the number one song, the

923
00:49:18,039 --> 00:49:21,559
number seven song this week is a song called Heartbeat

924
00:49:22,599 --> 00:49:41,480
by Don Johnson. Remember when Don Johnson had a top

925
00:49:41,519 --> 00:49:42,039
ten hit?

926
00:49:42,119 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do kind of remember that. Yeah, making full

927
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:47,559
use of his Miami vice power. I'd as well put

928
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:50,400
out an album. Yeah that's not a bad song though, No,

929
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:51,400
it's good. I like it.

930
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: And the number one song this week is when I

931
00:49:53,519 --> 00:49:54,960
Think of You Jenna Jackson.

932
00:49:55,559 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 3: I didn't realize she was so big that early in

933
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,880
the eighties. That was her first big album. Yeah, yeah,

934
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,280
wow good.

935
00:50:02,199 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: I almost like the football. Is this being the best

936
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,119
song on the album? I absolutely love it.

937
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's beautiful. I think it kind of fits with

938
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,280
no jacket required.

939
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,119
Speaker 2: It's just that that sort of pump ballad thing that

940
00:50:14,159 --> 00:50:17,280
Phil had going. Yeah, so I love it.

941
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,519
Speaker 3: It's a really good song. Yeah, yeah, no, it's it

942
00:50:20,639 --> 00:50:23,800
is a good one, obviously, very memorable from that time period,

943
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,079
kind of sat though. It's not a makeout it's a

944
00:50:28,119 --> 00:50:29,840
it's a breakout break and I don't want to listen

945
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,360
to a breakup song. I don't even want to slow

946
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,199
dance to a breakup song. Last song on the album,

947
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,079
Here we Go, This is my new discovery. This song

948
00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:58,800
is called the Brazilian Okay, so to me, this has

949
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,639
got to be a throwback to the Frog days. And

950
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,719
once I was forty seconds in and I hadn't heard

951
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,119
any lyrics, and I kind of saw the way the

952
00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:07,960
music was going. I'm like, oh, we're not going to

953
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,920
get any lyrics on this one. And then I was

954
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,519
listening more carefully of the drums. I'm like, oh, yeah,

955
00:51:13,519 --> 00:51:18,360
because we're getting we're getting pill on the full nineteen seventies.

956
00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:21,119
I mean, if I may bring it all back to

957
00:51:21,159 --> 00:51:23,039
what I said before, I think it was in our

958
00:51:23,159 --> 00:51:29,639
No Jacket Required album. His drumming blew my mind. When

959
00:51:29,679 --> 00:51:32,760
you go listen to band X, which was his side

960
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,840
project when they were doing their stuff in the seventies,

961
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:41,199
his drumming is astoundingly good. It's like he makes Lars

962
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,119
Ulrich look like a baby good Like it's so good.

963
00:51:44,199 --> 00:51:47,599
And here it is in this kind of cool eighties

964
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,840
instrumental powerhouse. I could see this definitely being on Miami

965
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,679
Vice episode or even like a full movie of something

966
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,599
along those lines. How about Magnum Pi. Could you see

967
00:51:58,679 --> 00:52:01,639
being a Magnum Pi? Absolutely? This was used in an

968
00:52:01,639 --> 00:52:05,000
episode of Magnum p I. There you go, right yeah.

969
00:52:05,039 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 2: It's also used in an eighty six movie called Win

970
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:08,119
the Wind Blows.

971
00:52:08,159 --> 00:52:10,199
Speaker 3: You ever seen that one? I have not? You ever seen?

972
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 2: Mona Lisa I have not you ever seen Playing for Keeps,

973
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,199
the one he used in No Jacket Required.

974
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 3: I haven't seen Buster either. I haven't seen Vester. I

975
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,000
haveven not seen any of those movies. I haven't.

976
00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: No.

977
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 2: This won a Grammy for Best Pop Instrumental Performance.

978
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,199
Speaker 3: It's fantastic and I love it. Yeah, yeah, I love it.

979
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,880
Is new discovery for me. I'd never heard it before.

980
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,480
I listened to this album and this I loved it.

981
00:52:35,559 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 2: All right, d we're at the end of our trinity

982
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:44,519
of Genesis, Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel. Let us ascend now

983
00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:45,639
to final judgment.

984
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,519
Speaker 3: Okay, first we got to bring in Chad Briggs and

985
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:51,320
he will give us his take on these three albums

986
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,280
and how he ranks them.

987
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:56,079
Speaker 4: Chad go for Buddy, So I think I would put

988
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:00,360
as number three Invisible Touch, and it's not as slight

989
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,920
against the album. But interestingly, I never owned the album

990
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,320
Invisible Touch. I don't know why I owned everything else

991
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,159
from Genesis. I owned the earlier stuff, even like the

992
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,840
very very first album. I owned the CDs for it.

993
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,280
For some reason, a Visible Touch just sort of slipped

994
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,360
through the fingers. But for whatever reason, it just didn't it,

995
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,519
did it? Didn't play as large a role in my

996
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:25,079
life at that time. Number two I would probably put

997
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,360
no Jacket Required. Now, this is really tough for me,

998
00:53:28,679 --> 00:53:30,639
because if you would have asked me back in the

999
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,079
nineteen eighties, I think no Jacket Required would have been

1000
00:53:33,159 --> 00:53:35,639
number one. I owned the cassette. I played it all

1001
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:40,440
the time. Loved the videos, especially Billy Don't Lose My Number.

1002
00:53:40,639 --> 00:53:43,280
I loved the video for that Take Me Home as

1003
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,800
an exchange student was really really hit with me. And

1004
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,559
you know, and Phil Collins was one of the first

1005
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:53,000
people to do these big world tours, and so the

1006
00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:56,480
video I think sort of encapsulated that. But for whatever reason,

1007
00:53:56,639 --> 00:53:59,400
it didn't follow me into my adult life, and so

1008
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,599
that leaves no umber one. I would say, And this

1009
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,199
was probably not a surprise from you if you heard

1010
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,599
me talking about Peter Gabriel, soo right. It was the

1011
00:54:06,639 --> 00:54:09,239
first music CD I ever owned. Luckily I owned the

1012
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,280
CD so that the proper song was in the end

1013
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:17,599
position that Peter Gabriel so was just so much of

1014
00:54:17,639 --> 00:54:20,679
my life. I owned the CD because I gave it

1015
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,400
as a gift to my best friend Eric, who had

1016
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,199
introduced me to Peter Gabriel, introduced me to Pink Floyd

1017
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,679
introduced me to all of the early sort of English

1018
00:54:30,119 --> 00:54:34,320
seventies rock, like like Dire Straits Queen. His parents had

1019
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,920
already boughtom the CD for Christmas, and so he gave

1020
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,880
it back to me, and so I owned the C

1021
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,519
I had the CD. I did not own a CD

1022
00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:45,400
player until years later, but it stuck with me. I

1023
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,440
still own the CD. I still have that CD.

1024
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

1025
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,159
Speaker 4: But the songs from that I think just sort of

1026
00:54:51,199 --> 00:54:55,960
carried over into my adult life into Peter Gabel's US album,

1027
00:54:56,559 --> 00:54:58,480
which I know I mentioned to your earlier d like.

1028
00:54:58,599 --> 00:55:02,199
I was there in October nineteen ninety two when they

1029
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,920
released the album. Went to the exclusive Company store in Madison,

1030
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,639
Wisconsin at midnight so that I could be one of

1031
00:55:08,679 --> 00:55:10,840
the first people to own it. I went out of

1032
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,880
my way to buy the bootleg copies of early Genesis

1033
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,960
when I lived in Budapest in the early nineties, and

1034
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,840
then later I did go back and buy the proper CDs.

1035
00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:24,800
So yeah, that to me was the top album. And again,

1036
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,719
not to not to malign any of the Genesis songs,

1037
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,360
I need to Phil Collins stuff. Still always loved him,

1038
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,360
but for me so was was that?

1039
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 3: Was it?

1040
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 4: That was one of my favorite albums of all time?

1041
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,519
Speaker 3: Thanks Jed, Yeah, thank you Chad. Okay, not a big surprise.

1042
00:55:40,679 --> 00:55:46,440
Surprise surprise there. Chad started the conversation we had with Okay,

1043
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,920
I want to do so and what else? So do

1044
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,840
you guys want to right exactly? He planned his flag

1045
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,519
pretty early on that one. Okay, I want you to

1046
00:55:56,519 --> 00:55:58,280
go first. I want me to go, you go first.

1047
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,159
So this is this is really interesting to me because

1048
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,719
I had never listened to the entire album of any

1049
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,239
of these three albums before we started doing this. I

1050
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,400
was obviously very familiar with tons of the of the

1051
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,800
songs that are on it because of the singles that

1052
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,039
are out, and when Chad suggested so, I was like,

1053
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:19,840
is there something on them? Beside is that the one

1054
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,039
Sledgehammer on it? I don't even couldn't even remember any

1055
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:24,400
of the other songs now. Of course, once I once

1056
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,599
I reviewed it, I was like, oh, these are these

1057
00:56:26,639 --> 00:56:31,360
are all incredibly good songs, but the other two albums

1058
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:36,559
have more nostalgia for me than So does and Sledgehammer

1059
00:56:36,599 --> 00:56:39,119
I was tired of it by the time when it's

1060
00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:43,000
full run, so I got to put so at number three. Now,

1061
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,800
what I have left is basically Phil Collins versus Phil

1062
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,800
Collins here, And it's hard. This is really really hard

1063
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:58,280
because I feel like that Invisible Touch has more stronger songs,

1064
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:03,079
but I feel like No Jacket Require has stronger, stronger songs.

1065
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,079
Like it's not as many, but it's I feel like

1066
00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:09,079
No Jacket Requires when it hits, it hits harder than

1067
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:13,239
Invisible Touch. Interesting, Okay, And so it's very This is

1068
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,960
a very very close call for me, but I have

1069
00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:21,519
to pick as number one. No Jacket Required. Invisible Touch

1070
00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:23,159
is a very very close song.

1071
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's so interesting. Okay, So I'm glad you

1072
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,360
went first because I've been wrestling with this all day.

1073
00:57:30,519 --> 00:57:31,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you.

1074
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,559
Speaker 2: I think there are brilliant songs on Peter Gabriel's album,

1075
00:57:35,639 --> 00:57:40,119
so I definitely didn't know it as well. It did

1076
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,480
rise in my eyes after taking a deep dive with

1077
00:57:43,639 --> 00:57:45,599
Chad and him guiding us through that.

1078
00:57:45,639 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 3: So moved the needle for me. It did move the

1079
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:48,480
needle for me.

1080
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 2: I appreciated it definitely more now than I did. And

1081
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,119
then I'm looking at No Jacket Required, which I owned,

1082
00:57:55,119 --> 00:57:57,679
an Invisible Touch, which I owned and I'm like, man,

1083
00:57:58,119 --> 00:58:01,360
these songs are so good and they are so anchored

1084
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,119
in those years. For me, eighty five eighty six, No

1085
00:58:05,239 --> 00:58:08,800
Jacket Required is kind of like Star Wars in that

1086
00:58:09,239 --> 00:58:11,400
I fell in love with it right.

1087
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 3: Off the bat.

1088
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: I love the songs. There's a lot of them. They're

1089
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:19,519
all good. There's no skippers, and there's even a bonus song,

1090
00:58:19,559 --> 00:58:22,880
which I think is amazing. But Invisible Touch for me,

1091
00:58:23,239 --> 00:58:25,639
is kind of like Empire strikes back, just what I

1092
00:58:25,679 --> 00:58:28,239
didn't think it could be any better. I think those

1093
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,360
songs just hit me harder. Yeah, Land of Confusion, Invisible Touch,

1094
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,159
Tonight Tonight, Tonight, Throwing it All Away, those are just

1095
00:58:35,239 --> 00:58:41,119
amazing songs. So by a nose, yeah, by one of

1096
00:58:41,199 --> 00:58:43,480
Mike Rutherford's beard hairs.

1097
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:51,079
Speaker 3: Invisible Touch ekes out No Jacket Required with so finishing thirty. Okay,

1098
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,440
All right, well there you go, folks. Tell us what

1099
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,679
you think, hit us in the comments, rank it up

1100
00:58:56,719 --> 00:58:59,480
for us, tell us why you love whichever album you

1101
00:58:59,519 --> 00:59:02,440
think is the best. Be sure and check us out

1102
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:07,119
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1103
00:59:07,159 --> 00:59:10,400
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1104
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,880
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1105
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,920
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1106
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,199
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1107
00:59:20,239 --> 00:59:22,599
recruit you to co host an episode if you come in.

1108
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,320
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1109
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,400
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1110
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,840
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1111
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1112
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1113
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,559
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1114
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:43,400
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1115
00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:47,480
pretty epic contest coming up on our next episode, Jason.

1116
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 2: So next week we're actually, this is totally coincidental, but

1117
00:59:53,519 --> 00:59:57,800
Al Kilmer's death just havingus to coincide with our matchup

1118
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:02,480
of weird science, a sort of snobs versus slobs, you know,

1119
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,719
almost a revenge of the Nerds type of story with

1120
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:07,559
real genius.

1121
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 3: Same thing, Val Kilmer Nerds and love nerds. The nerds

1122
01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:15,800
save the day exactly. Yeah, So come back.

1123
01:00:15,639 --> 01:00:18,599
Speaker 2: Next week as we dive into weird science versus real genius.

1124
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,519
Speaker 3: See you guys, then, thank you so much. Bye bye