Speaker 1: Well, you know something, brother, This is Mark Mingle from
Colorado Springs and what You're gonna do when the Surely
you Can't Be Serious podcast runs wild on you?
Speaker 2: All Right, I've got a tribute question for you to
start off the episode today. Okay, can you name the
first band to have five singles reached the top five
on the.
Speaker 3: Hot one hundred. I'm gonna go on a limb here. Yes,
is it Genesis? It's not Genesis? Actually I said ye
for that? You really did? I mean, that's not fair.
So here's the thing.
Speaker 2: The Beatles are the first band They actually had one, two, three, four,
and five of the Hot one hundred all at the
same time, but those singles were from different albums. So
can you name the first band with five singles to
reach the top five of the Hot one hundred, all
from the same album?
Speaker 3: Is Genesis? It's jenital Wow? How did I know?
Speaker 2: Today we are going to be talking about that album
and those songs from the Invisible Touch album.
Speaker 3: Invisible Touch this is the thirteenth studio album by the
band Genesis. Now, obviously they went through several new beginnings
if you will, Yeah, but yeah, this is number thirteen
and to think that these guys when they got together
to record this album, they had no songs in the bank.
They literally just said, we're just going to get together
and we're just gonna improvise and we'll just put out
whatever we come up with. And what they came up
with was an album full what did five chart topping
singles on this album? Five in the top five? That
is crazy.
Speaker 2: And when they started, they had nothing but a big
blank piece of.
Speaker 3: Paper, blank piece of paper and a drum machine. Yep, yeah,
yeah the eight oh eight eight, the eight o eight.
So we we you know, the we text our buddies.
Def Dave said, do you know the eight oh eight story?
I don't know the eight story right, And You're like, yes,
we got it. And I'm like do we what? And
You're like, isn't it the gated thing? And I was like, no, no,
no gated drum is like that's that was a real
drum with a gate, a noise gate on it. The
eighth eight was one of the first drum machines. And
I mean every major rap album that you heard in
the eighties had the eight to eight tr eighth eight
and the obviously a whole lot of other pop albums
had it as well, and it was a primary force
in both Invisible Touch and No Jacket Required. I didn't look,
but my guess is it's probably also a big part
of SO probably so. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the interesting thing about Genesis to me, I mean,
it has these different evolutions of the band. Yep, they
made several albums without Phil Collins, yes, and had a
few substantial success, and then they have several albums without
Peter Gabriel even more success. That's even more success. And
then they have a little in there where they had
this guy named Steve Hackett, Yeah, who pulled the dumbest
rip cord of all time.
Speaker 3: And said got out right when things are getting hot,
My gosh, But would you like to be that guy? Well?
I mean he did, okay, he did okay, And we'll
talk about him in a little bit when we kind
of get into their history. But let's jump into this album, man.
I mean, we've we've got a trinity of Genesis songs
and albums in nineteen eighty five and nineteen eighty six.
We are on our third of the three. Now, if
you haven't listened, go back and check out our Peter
Gabriel so album that we covered with Chad Briggs. Check
out our No Jacket Require Phil Collins album and then
here we are today to talk about Invisible Touch and
how all of these things are married together in the past.
Speaker 2: So let's just do a quick overview Invisible Touch. Okay,
it was released June sixth of nineteen eighty six. That's
after so and of course after No Jacket Required. Hugh
Pageum is our producer on this one as well.
Speaker 3: Yes, right, this is after.
Speaker 2: You know, Genesis had to put out an album in
eighty three, yep, and then you had the guys break
up and do their own solo thing, but not break up,
not break up.
Speaker 3: Well, the BBC reported that they had broken up, right,
They just said, would you guys like to go do
some other stuff? And everybody was like, yeah, let's go
do some other stuff.
Speaker 2: So Tony Banks he goes and does a couple of
albums soundtracks for movies. I looked at those movies. I
didn't recognize any of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said they were not very well received. And
he said after doing that much work and getting that
little reception on it, he wasn't really super interested in
doing soundtracks anymore.
Speaker 2: Okay, Mike Rutherford goes on and informs Mike and the Mechanics,
which is a supergroup absolutely, and they have some huge
hits in the mid eighties. Yeah, All I Need is
a miracle, the Living Years, All.
Speaker 3: I Need is a miracle. I came out before this, right, Yeah,
that was eighty five, so he's right in that success
as he comes into Invisible Touch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Silent Running, All I Need is a miracle.
Those are big hits from eighty five Silent Running.
Speaker 3: Go check out our top five of nineteen eighty five
earlier this year. Love that, Love that song, that fantastic song.
And I didn't even realize it now he of course,
he wasn't singing the lead vocals when he was with
Mike and the Mechanics. He had a couple of other
guys come in and sing, Paul Young and Paul Carrick. Yeah.
I don't remember which one of them is, but one
of them passed away, like Paul Young, Yeah, died in
the hotel room over drug overdose. I believe that's the
guy who sings All they Need is Miracle, which apparently
that's what he needed and didn't get it too bad. Yep.
Speaker 2: But the guys come back together with those three guys,
Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford, Phil Collins. They looking at this
blank piece of paper. They said, well, let's just improve
our way and see what happens, and you get this
unbelievable album.
Speaker 3: Hey, when you're on your thirteenth album as a band,
not to mention the other solo projects that they were
just doing, and you show up and were like, well,
let's just see what you can do. You can probably
do some pretty impressive I saw that their typical day
looked like they start about eleven am h and they'd
finished about two am. That was about right for a musician, right.
Speaker 2: Phil said, I heard him talking. He said, you get there,
somebody else is doing their thing. You're standing around doing
a whole lot of nothing. He said, Then pretty soon
you start raiding their fridge. He said, I always put
on weight while we did albums.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, that's hilarious. So all right, well, let's dive
in the first track, man, I mean, let's get this
thing started, not wait any longer.
Speaker 2: Jumping in track number one, Invisible Touch, shall we start
off with a banger? My gosh, it's like it's like
powder keg and several dollars city that intro. You are
off and running like a bullet on this one.
Speaker 3: Yep. I love the video on this one because it's
them being goofy and themselves being silly before a show.
It looks like, I mean, they even have their own
little handheld cameras that they're doing stuff with and Phil
is being silly with the drumsticks. And they finish off
the video by singing a little a cappella version of
the song together. And you're just like, these guys are
rock stars and they're like dads up there, you know,
being just goofy and silly.
Speaker 2: It looks like the guys like the crew is working
around them while they're screwing around. Yeah, Phil singing in
his drumsticks, and I played it at the very beginning
when you were still studying your notes. He has this
real goofy yuck laugh at the beginning of it that
cracks me up.
Speaker 3: Yes, great videos, man, great videos. That's the problem.
Speaker 2: Pal Baby, Pal, Pal hell on baby, give you all
You're gone. And he's got his own little handheld camera.
Speaker 3: Huh. This video costs about five dollars in a sandwich.
It really did like they had They probably had the
camera anyway, because they bring cameras to live shows all
the time, and so it was just like, hey, let's
just go ahead and make the video for this one today.
We've got a couple of hours while the guys are
setting up. Let's just do it now, right, Why not?
Right now? I'm sure it was a chart topping number one.
Speaker 2: This is a number one hitch. You want to hear
the top five? Yes, of course this week in July
of eighty six, eight six July nineteenth of eighty six.
Number five is holding back the years by simply red.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Number four is danger Zone. Well, sure go check out
our Top Gun soundtrack. Episode Number three is Nasty by
Janet Jackson.
Speaker 3: It was big back in the day. It's Jackson. If
you're nasty, call her baby, It's Janet. It's Janet, It's Jackson.
Speaker 2: Number two is Sledgehammer, of course from Peter Gabriel.
Speaker 3: So yes, and.
Speaker 2: Of course number one is Invisible Touch. Now when Invisible
Touch gets knocked out the next week, it gets knocked
out by Sledgehammer.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: We talked about the story how Phil said at the
time they didn't realize it, but if they had, they
had sent him a telegram saying congratulations, bastard Bustard. All right,
so here's the thing. I'm gonna play a song for you.
Can you tell me if this song reminds you of
Invisible Touch?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, So that's she le Yes. What's the
name of the song. The song is called The Glamorous Life. Yeah,
the Glamours Life. Yes, But do I think it sounds
a lot like Invisible Touch? No. I mean there's a
little similarity in the drum beat, but that's about it.
Speaker 2: So we had we talked about how I think Sus
Studio had a nineteen ninety nine feel Phil received some criticism.
Speaker 3: Because I'm sorry clarified nineteen ninety nine, the song by
Prince and the Revolution, that's right. I was like they
were playing futuristic songs. Okay, I got.
Speaker 2: You now right the song nineteen ninety nine by Prince.
They felt like video sounded a little bit too much
like Prince, right, Okay, like.
Speaker 3: That song, yeah, still don't agree with I don't think
so either.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he said, well, gosh, I'm I'm a fan
of Prince. I love Prince music, you know, Purple rain,
blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Well this song.
Speaker 2: Phil got his inspiration from the song The Glamorous Life
by Shila e Oh.
Speaker 3: He gave her credit for He gave her credit, So
it's inspiration. It's not a it's not a copy, butay,
but a I liked what you did here. I'm gonna
take some of the tricks, which if you listen to
all the greats, that's that's what they say. You know,
good artists create great artists. Steel that's it. There you go,
that's it. So do you know what this song is about? Well,
I don't know her, but I know her name, So
do I no tell me what it's about.
Speaker 2: So obviously it's about a toxic woman who you just
can't quite say no to. Yeah, she gets under your skin,
she fs up your life, and you just can't quite
say no to her. He says that large chunks of
this song are about Andrea Bertarelli, the first wife, his
first wife. Yes he called her Andy, and yes he
did have problems saying no to her, even when.
Speaker 3: She was rejecting him right right.
Speaker 2: But if you'll allow me, I think the real woman
who had a hold on his life that he just
couldn't let go of. Her name was Levinya.
Speaker 3: Yes, So Lavinya was the one that Andy and she
both sang back up in Fill's original band, and then
he ran into her later when he was married to Jill,
his second wife, Yes, and had a little tryst.
Speaker 2: They started a torrid love affair that destroyed her family
and his and you know.
Speaker 3: And cast him a lot of money ultimillion dollar divorce.
That's right. The origin of this song.
Speaker 2: It was originally part of Domino, which we're going to
talk about here in a minute.
Speaker 3: Part which part Domino Part one or Domino Part two? Well,
exactly sure, all right, well we'll get to that. I mean,
that's going to be side too, right, that is side
to side too. So we got them ways to go
here we do.
Speaker 2: But they liked it so much they pulled it out
of that song and said this needs to be its
own thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it's I mean, it's this. This is
a fantastic song. It's no surprise to me that it's
the number one single. But just as as a little hook,
I'm just gonna tell you, we're going to talk about
the band, the history of the band, Peter Gabriel's involvement
with the band, and the guy who named the band
who's now not allowed within five hundred feet of a school.
And I'll tell you that story in a bit.
Speaker 2: Okay, next song on the album. This song is called
Tonight Tonight Tonight.
Speaker 3: Okay, number one. The ding Ding Ding Dink is freaking
cool as heck, it is this song. Yeah, it's like
somebody beating on the prison bars or something like that.
This song, to me, has got to be about some
kind of an addiction, right. I mean, he's coming down
like a monkey. I don't really know what that means,
but I'm gonna assume that has something to do with
a monkey on your back and he needs he needs help,
and the person who he's talking to is and helping him.
Speaker 2: So this is the mid eighties, Yes, when cocaine dust
is on everything. Yes, the song was originally titled Monkey Zulu. Okay,
it's about a cocaine dealer that they can't break free from.
Speaker 3: Okay, Right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is true or just kind
of a fairy tale or whatever, but it is sort
of that Miami vice feel, that a Miami vice story.
Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The cool thing to me is Michelobe was the sponsor
for the Genesis American leg.
Speaker 3: Of their tour.
Speaker 2: Okay, I sent you a commercial the other day, a
michelob commercial with Tonight Tonight Tonight as the song. And
the michelub commercial in itself is like its own little
Miami Vice episode.
Speaker 3: It's pretty cool. Okay. But here's the thing.
Speaker 2: This song was not going to be released as a
single until that commercial really took off.
Speaker 3: Oh so the commercial using the song came out before
the song. It came out as a single.
Speaker 2: It came out first, and Tony Banks says that if
it hadn't been for that commercial, we wouldn't have released it.
Speaker 3: It been like just this long thing, kind of like Domino. Yeah,
I mean I noticed whenever I listened to it on
the album, I was surprised at how long it was.
I mean, the song's something like nine minutes long. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And so they released it and it goes to number
three the list I do so. Number five is come
Go with Me by Expose, which I it's a dance song.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 2: Number four Let's Wait a While by Jenny Jackson. Okay,
you ain't getting any Tonight song, right, okay? Number three
Tonight Tonight Tonight. Number two Lean On Me by Club nouveau.
Speaker 3: Oh, that was everywhere it was.
Speaker 2: And then number one, Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now.
Speaker 3: By Starship, Oh my gosh, this big hit from Annequin.
I was gonna say this the big hit for me.
How does this song not beat those two songs? I
don't know, I don't know. This song is among the
best in the album.
Speaker 2: I almost spike the football, but I've got I'm holding
out for one.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's interesting. I'm holding out too. Well, we'll see
how it goes. I've actually got a surprise discovery on
this album too, so I'm anxious to talk about that
one as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have a nugget on this song that I'm
dying to tell, but that you are raining me in
on this.
Speaker 3: So tell the story.
Speaker 2: So last, So I'm watching the video for Tonight Tonight Tonight, Yeah,
and I'm looking at the location where this video was shot,
and I'm like, wait a minute, I recognize this place.
I know where they are, And so I tell you,
I'm like, dude, watch this video and tell me if
I'm crazy. Yeah, I didn't google this, I just recognized it.
And You're like, hey, I think it's where this movie
was shot, and I'm like me.
Speaker 3: Too, uh huh, and you looked it up. Then I
googled it and we were right. We are right. Okay,
So now, well we're gonna leave this as a little teaser.
Where this video was shot. Another movie that we have
covered in the past was shot at the same place.
If you're listening to my voice right now, comment on
the YouTube video, or comment on the Spotify or whatever
podcast you're using, or email us or hit us up
on Twitter or whatever. But you tell us what you
think the movie was that used the same setting as
the Tonight Tonight Tonight video, And I will give you
one more hint. June nineteen eighty two. That's too easy.
You can't tell that. I can. There are a lot
of fantastic movie that came out in June of nineteen
eighty two, and we've covered several of them. But okay,
there you go.
Speaker 2: Wow, that nugget just wants to leap out of my now.
Speaker 3: When you very first told me, you were like, I've
got this nugget that's dying to come out, and I
was like, are we talking about trivia or are the
Fouwel movement? Yes, okay, I suppose that it's a good
ending for that for that song, right, What's next on
the album, my friend?
Speaker 2: Next song on the album is a song called Land
of Confusion.
Speaker 3: Spike in the Football. This is the best song on
the album. This is the best song on it. It
is best song of this This is the one song
off the album that I had downloaded on my phone
for years now because it's it's just that good. It's
so good, right, yes, and it's so eighties yes. And
then you've got with the video, You've got this incredible
time capsule from that time period. And we're talking about
nineteen eighty six, and Gorbachev and Reagan are at the
front of your TV at all times. Everybody is fully
invested in the Cold War, and who would have guessed
that a mere three years later the wall would come
tumbling down and Communism would fall. Okay, So the Muppets
or whatever these guys are, they're the spitting image guys
like Sidough. I used to watch this show. They had
a show on HBO and obviously, as you've noted, they're
they're like puppets, but it was a very adult humor
kind of show that they had on HBO, and I
used to watch them all the time, and then when
I saw this video, I was like, Oh, these are
these guys and they're they're caricatures. Caricatures of Phil Collins
and Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks are all on point.
You've got this whole kind of weird Ronald Reagan's having
a dream where he's Superman trying to save the world
from the Ebel Gorbachef, and I think the video ends
with him accidentally setting off the nuclear bomb.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I've got the list on who is actually
featured in this video. Keep in mind, every one of
these puppets cost ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Ten thousand bucks for each one of these wow, which
is probably why they shot the Invisible Touch video in
a warehouse with handheld cameras.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you've.
Speaker 2: Got Ronald and Nancy Reagan. You also have Bonzo, which is.
Speaker 3: The monkey from Rocky, the Ronald Reagan movie. That's right.
What was it bringing a Bonzo? Bringing up Bonzo? That's right.
Speaker 2: Okay, You've got Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford, Phil Collins, You've
got Mussolini, Komani, Gorbachef, Kadafi. Then you've got a Rhino.
You've got Johnny Carson, Richard, Nick Spock, Bob Hope. You
have dinosaurs, you have Margaret Thatcher, you have Prince, Pete Townsend,
Tina Turner, Madonna with a talking belly button. So you
have Grace Jones, Mick Jagger. It's basically a recreation of
that We Are in the World video. You got Michael Jackson,
Bette Midler.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what I thought.
Speaker 2: Princess Diana, right, Princess Diana Sting, Bruce Springsteen, Hulk Cogan,
and Pope John Paul the Second on guitar.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's I don't know how many names you just mentioned,
but if each one of those is really ten thousand dollars,
that's an expensive cast of character. That's yes.
Speaker 2: So this won the nineteen eighty seven Grammy for Best
Concept Video.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: It was also up for six categories in the TV
Music Awards, Okay, and it lost every single category to Sledgehammer.
Speaker 3: That's tragic, right, And listen, this is a.
Speaker 2: One of the most iconic music videos of the eighties. Absolutely, so,
I think it can be attributed to the success of
the song, but I also kind of feel like it's
an anchor around the song because the video is silly
and the song is serious.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, I mean it's
a serious subject. But I mean that's what satire is is.
It's making funny comments about something that's very serious.
Speaker 2: This was the third single. It reached number four on
the Hot one hundred YEP. Number three is selelev by
Robbie Neville. It's a good one. I liked it. Number
two Open Your Heart by Madonna, okay, kind of the
peep Show video, and number one at This Moment by
Billy Vera and the.
Speaker 3: Oh right by the way, guys, that's It's a little
tip of the hat to one of our Patreon episodes.
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of the coolest, funnest episodes that we have.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for all of our Patreo members.
Speaker 3: Appreciate you, guys. Yeah, I truly appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've got a quick story on the creation of
this song. Okay, okay, So this is a Mike Rutherford song.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: So he was in charge of writing the lyrics for
this song.
Speaker 3: Ye okay.
Speaker 2: Well, he was really sick and they were up to
like this massive deadline. They had to get it done.
And so he has like the flu, He's got like
one hundred and three temperature. He's in bed dying. So
Phil goes to his house and sits there like a
secretary and is like, all right, here's the next verset
what he got and he just like from his flu
ridden sweatsuch soaked sheets, he gives him the lyrics to
this song. Wow, and you get this never Monster.
Speaker 3: Yeah. That's incredible. Yes, that is incredible. I cannot believe
this didn't hit number one. Blows my mind.
Speaker 2: It's better than the two songs in front of it, Yes,
including our Patreon Yeah it is it is. Okay, just
a couple more nuggets for you on this song. I
think it's fantastic. This was the opening concert song in
their nineteen ninety two tour, kicking it off with a bang.
You start the concert with Atlanta Confusion. That's how you
know your catalog is loaded. Yeah, Disturbed, the rock band
Disturbed came out with their version of this song. It
went to number one on the Hot Rocks chart. YEP,
And this is the only song to be featured from
this album in any way on Miami Vice.
Speaker 3: Really yes, now, this was the time for any Phil
Collins song to be in Miami Vice. But of this
mega album, there's only one song. You get episode information
for us. Episode is called free Fall. Okay, seems like
they should have got Tom Petty for that one, right, Right.
Speaker 2: So I looked at the clip, right, you got Crockett
and Tubs and they're chasing down this bad guy who's
played by Ian McShane, right, and he's a general from
a Central America type of country, Okay, and they're spying
on him and the girl that is bringing a bag
full of money to him. Crockett says, I bet what
she sees in him is right there in that bag.
Speaker 3: Bamy Vice classic eighties lines. I love it all right.
Next song on the album, YEP, this song is called
in Too Deep. I was searching, right, this has to
be on the Makeout Playlist of nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one was released in eighty seven, so for me,
it's make Out List eighty seven. Yeah, this song was
written for a movie.
Speaker 3: Most people don't even know that. Okay, so this the
movie that you're referring to is the Mona Lisa movie?
Is that right? That's right? So as I understood it,
I heard Phil talk talking about this and the only
reason my ears parked up because you had mentioned this
movie when we were talking before. They had this song
and they had already like composed the song, but when
the people making Mona Lisa hit them up, they're like, oh,
well we've got this, but let's rewrite the lyrics, and
so they adjusted the lyrics to more be in line
with what the movie was. So it wasn't created for
the movie, but they rewrote the lyrics so that it
would make sense with the movie. Okay, that's interesting. Yeah.
So this movie stars Bob Hoskins, which we talked about
as a potential twin of the Third Bear and the
Three Danny de v that's Phil Collins.
Speaker 2: And don't forget Kim Basinger is Goldielucks right, right, So
here's my quick Bob Hoskins story.
Speaker 3: Right, So I called you last night. We were talking.
Speaker 2: If you've ever watched Hooframe Roger Rabbit, it sounds like
he's from Queens. I mean, he's got a New York
accent and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Weall we hear him on a talk show.
Speaker 2: He's got a real thick English accent. Yep, okay, And
he was telling a story. He was asked by Brian
de Palma to star as al Capone in The Untouchables, right,
And so they were talking about it and Bob Hoskin's like, yeah,
I'd love to be al Capone, and Brian Opalma said, well,
I've asked Robert de Niro. He's my number one. If
he accepts, I got to give it to him. But
if he doesn't, you're in because he's just really hard
to pin down. So time goes on. Of course, Robert
de Niro accepts and they make the movie. Well Bob
Hoskins thought, well that ship sailed obviously, and they didn't
want me, and I didn't ever hear anything back, and
that's just kind of how it goes. So one day
he goes to his mailbox, and he opens up a
letter from Brian de Palma and it says, dear Bob,
thanks so much.
Speaker 3: You know here you.
Speaker 2: Go, says check for two hundred thousand dollars, And so
Bob Hoskins sent a letter back to Brian Opalmas, like,
if you ever want me to not be in any
other movies, you just let me know.
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 3: How about that? Wow that? Yeah? Hey, guys, if you're
ever gonna send me a check in the mail for
two hundred thousand dollars, will you give me a text
let me know it's coming and keep an eye out
for it so I don't shrind it, so you know whatever.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, So this song reached number three in
June of eighty seven. Just keeps.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Here's your top five always by Atlantic Star, Makeout Song
Extraordinary right, number four alone by Heart.
Speaker 3: Well we love that for sure, love that makeout song.
Probably my favorite heart song of the eighties, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Number two and Too Deep by Genesis, Number two,
Head to Toe by Lisa Lisa in Cold Jam Jam yep.
And number one I Want to Dance with Somebody.
Speaker 3: Whitney Whitney Houston. Wow, Well that's not a bad.
Speaker 2: List the album that kept Girls, Girls Girls out of
the number one spot, although Nicky six smells rat go
back to our Girls Girls Girls episode on that. Yep,
all right, everybody hit stop on your tape player, kick
it out, flip it over for a side two, and
we start off with the song anything She Does.
Speaker 3: Tell me you don't hear this song and think of
the Heat is on by Glenn Fry from Beverly Hills
Cop three. Yea from Beverly Hills Cop Sorry, Fredian slip
there nightmares about Beverly Hills Cop three. But that the
kind of thumpy bass that they've got on this and
the quick pace, this just very much seems like the
heat is on to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can hear it kind of with that the
horns and stuff, theah yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: That's it. Okay.
Speaker 2: I feel like this has been played a thousand times
at Oklahoma basketball games.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, right.
Speaker 2: I reached out to our resident Oklahoma basketball experts Patreon
members Doug Gray and Blaine Peterson, and I said, guys,
tell me this song. I'm not crazy, this song has
been played at Ou basketball games and they both said
the same thing. I think it was Billy don't forget
my number from Phillip Collins.
Speaker 3: I'm like, shoot, and maybe it was so because you're
not anywhere I can't find you. All right, Well that's interesting.
So this song was not released as a single. Huh,
but it did have a video. Yeah, yeah, you were
emphatic that I watched the video, and I got to
watch the video. I'm very glad that I did. You
mentioned the page three girl in there, and.
Speaker 2: There's two page three girls in there.
Speaker 3: Well, there was one on the page three in the
page three, on the page three and then on the camera.
And I told you, I was like, I remember this
video from when I was like ten years old, because
I was like, is she wearing a top? She covered up? There?
Are they allowed to show this? What is going on?
But you've got Benny Hill as the as chief of security,
T Fred Scuttle. Yes, and he says security will not
be laxative here today. Yes. Yeah, we don't want people
coming in without the pass. That's time they came in
and we didn't even invite them, and they had all
the food and then and he's like, if they don't
have a pass, they're out in their ear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, let me go see if the boys
are sober. I mean, if you go see the boys
are ready, it's like a farce. He's people are trying
to sneak into the gist.
Speaker 3: It's the old Benny Hill gags of you know, quick
frame running around, chasing around people, sneaking in. It's it's
a fun little bit, it really is.
Speaker 2: Tony Banks said, the inspiration for this song. Uh huh
were the pin ups and sort of centerfolds that they
had on the wall while they were.
Speaker 3: Writing this album. The scantily clad women. Well, everybody needs inspiration.
I told you.
Speaker 2: I think Samantha Fox started off as a page three girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also in the video, I noticed there's a whole lot
of Kim Wild gear.
Speaker 3: Really, kids in America. Kim Wild, Kim Kids in America.
You keep me hanging on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm guessing she was opening for Genesis at that time.
Speaker 3: Okay, very cool.
Speaker 2: By the way, did you notice the Princess Diana look
alike in the video?
Speaker 3: I did, actually, yes, wearing the little like tuxedo shirt
with a bread bow tie. What kind of outfit was that,
I don't know, I don't know, but she definitely had
the right color hair, right cut of hair to be
a Princess died Deevil.
Speaker 2: If you haven't heard our Princess Diana Story with Phil Collins.
Speaker 3: Go back and check out that episode. It is worth.
It is worth the listen. I read last week on
No Jacket Record. That's great, Okay. Next song on the
album is called Domino.
Speaker 1: No need to look outside.
Speaker 2: To see.
Speaker 3: Okay. So my first question for you is is this
separated on the tape, because if it's on Spotify, you're
looking at Domino parentheses Part one and two. Did they
separate it out on the DVD or CD or the
tape or any of that. I don't believe. So, so
this is a part one and part two songs. And
my next question is which part do you like better?
I like the last Domino better. Yeah, part two is
my choice as well. The first part I was like, Okay,
this is gonna be a long, ten minute song. But
then in about four minutes in they downshift and it
becomes a thumping, epic arena rock kind of song. And
I love the second half for sure.
Speaker 2: They're really proud of this one, yeah, and I'm just
kind of like, okay, whatever, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a single. It's more like Old Genesis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's longer. They're kind of weaving here and there.
Speaker 3: So we say Old Genesis. We still really haven't talked
about them as a band and how they the Genesis
of Genesis if you will, all right, yeah, okay. So
Charterhouse founded in sixteen eleven by Thomas Sutton. About four
hundred years later, four hundred and fifty years later, the
boys Peter Gabriel and Tony Banks and eventually Mike Rutherford
and Anthony Phillips Aunt Phillips all were going to school
there and all hated it and kind of hit it
off with each other about how much they hated the school,
and so Tony Banks and Peter Gabriel started a band
with a drummer named Chris Stewart, and that band was
called Garden Wall Yes. And then Mike Rutherford and Anthony
Phillips were in a band called A Noon for Anonymous,
which I guess they had to be anonymous because apparently
it was against the rules to play the music, and
Mike Rutherford actually got banned had to leave to leave
the band because he got banned from playing the guitar
for a time, and then eventually got the band lifted
and was able to play with a non again. But
you know, Chris left the band and Mike Rutherford and
Anthony Phillips and Peter Gabriel and Tony Banks all joined
up together to form a new band. And they were
actually doing some pretty good music. And there was a
kid from Charterhouse who had gone to school there about
four years earlier, who had had a kind of a
hit single. His name was Jonathan Hill, and his hit
single was Everyone's Been to the Moon. I listened to
it today, it sounds like a song from the sixties.
It's just a kind of yeah, it's just a kind
of a groovy, little yeah, groovy kind of love if
you will nice. And so they contacted him. They were like, hey,
you know, can you help us get signed, get a
record deal, get recorded, all that stuff. And he had
made a little money off of the single, and he
absolutely fell in love with Peter Gabriel's voice, and so
he said, yes, but your band needs to change his name.
My suggestion is Gabriel's Angels. Yeah, okay, cool, And so
I'm sure Peter was fine with that, but everybody else
was like, uh, how a new I'm out on that.
So Jonathan Hill's next suggestion was, yes, I want to
keep this keep a biblical idea. Why don't you guys
use the band name Genesis? And everybody was cool with that.
I mean, it's like, hey, it's the beginning of a thing,
So Genesis seems appropriate. And so Jonathan Hill works with
them to produce their very first album, which is called
From Genesis to Revelation. I like it. It sold whopping
six hundred and forty nine copies. Hey got start somewhere,
that's right. So when it did as poorly as that,
Jonathan Hill was out, which is probably good for them
because around the time that these albums that we're talking
about today were coming out, he was involved in some
things that would get him in trouble. About fifteen years later,
two thousand, he gets accused by twenty seven men of
having had inappropriate sexual relations with them when they were
fourteen and fifteen years old back in the mid eighties,
and five of the twenty seven charges stick. He got
acquitted on twenty two, but five of them he was
found guilty got sentenced to seven years in prison. Fought it,
of course, still fighting it, still advocating that it didn't happen.
But yes, the guy who came up with the very
biblical band name for Genesis is a sex sitter. Okay, wow, okay, well,
so how does Phil become involved in Genesis? Okay, So
you've got Peter Gabriel singing, you've got Anthony Phillips playing guitar,
Microtherford is playing bass at this time, Tony Banks is
still playing keyboard. They all can play other instruments, and
so they'll switch around, especially if they're doing kind of
pastoral songs or something like that. But while it's them,
they do from Genesis to Revelation, they do trespass. So
those guys together do from Genesis to Revelation in sixty nine,
they do trespass in seventy, Nursery Crime in seventy one,
and Foxtrot in seventy two. Okay, and so it's at
Foxtrot this is the stage like they're doing their best,
they're trying to make it, but they still haven't had
a lot of success. But then Peter Gabriel walks out
on stage in a woman a red woman's evening gown
with a gigantic fox head over his head. Uh huh,
And I think you mentioned to me that the other
guys had a response to this. They were like what,
they had no idea he was going to do it,
no idea, And so there he is on stage and
they're like, what the what does Peter do? You know? Right? Well,
the answer is it was a gimmick. And the solution
is the gimmick worked because overnight, because it was such
a ridiculous presentation, they got tons of news coverage and
suddenly they were getting asked to do more shows, bigger shows,
more money. And so for Foxtrot, that was that was
that album. That album sales picked up after that stunt,
and then they release Selling England by the Pound, which
is where they get their biggest to that at that
point hit. And then a guy named William Freakin. William Friedkin,
you remember who that is? He wrote the Exorcist? Is
that right? I think he directed the Exercisa, Yes, but
he was That's who he was, Yes, the director of
the Exorcist. And he's reading their album notes and he's like,
I would really like to write a movie with this
Peter Gabriel guy. I think he's really got something like
on my weird kind of horrific spectrum. I want to
write a movie with him, and so he approaches him
and Peter Gabriel is like, hey, guys, you know this
big movie directors asked me to help him write a movie.
Is it okay with you if I could do that?
And they're like, we're not finished with the album. No,
it's not okay, and they basically are like, if you're leave,
you're leaving the band. And he's like, well, okay, and
he goes and does it, and it's this kind of
scary moment and William Friedkin's like, I don't want to
break up the band. So he basically is like, this
is just a maybe thing. You know, you shouldn't do this,
and he sends Peter back. But at that point, that
kind of possibility of like Peter may just up and
quit any time. Is now a parent. And then he
becomes a parent. He has a little son who has
some medical issues and what he's wanting to spend more
time with the son and these young dumb musicians are like, listen, man,
you need to be committed. And he was like, you
know what, it's okay. I'm just gonna you guys keep
going and I'm gonna go do something else.
Speaker 2: It is kind of like telling your wife like, what
do you think about maybe getting a divorce and then saying, oh.
Speaker 3: I just kidd't. Yeah, you know, not really not really
at that moment it fractured. Well, but you got to
tell the story how Phil Collins gets involved because this
is all after Phil. Okay, right, I'm sorry, Yeah, I
forgot about how so they lose they lose their drummer
and so they put out an ad in the paper.
And as I mentioned, when we did a Phil Collins episode,
Phil had been an actor. Was at starred as the
artful Dodger in Oliver on at west End, which is
I mean, that's a big deal. And he had said, Dad,
I'm giving up acting. I'm going to go be a musician.
And he was. He was basically panhandling, going door to
door trying to find stuff, and he sees this ad
and melody maker of this audition for to play with
this band, and he recognized the band name and he
goes over to listen to I sent you that ad yesterday,
Yes you did, yes.
Speaker 2: And it's kind of trying to be a nonymous like
we need a drummer for an established band, but we're
not telling you who it is, and that way people
won't freak out.
Speaker 3: Right, And so he said when he showed up, he
was in awe at first because these guys, this charter
school they met at is a high dollar school, right,
and he grew up in a much lower class, if
he will. But he was amazed at the house that
he was at. But he showed up with a bunch
of other guys who are auditioning, and he said, I
just kind of chilled out and hung out at the pool,
but listened to what everybody else was doing. And I
would listen and say, Okay, well there's that guy's mistake.
And so I'm listening to the songs that they're having
them audition. I'm listening to the mistake these guys are making.
He's like, one guy took ten minutes to warm up.
I'm like, that's a terrible idea, and he says, so
by the end of it, he was like, it is.
I feel like I probably would have gotten chos in
any way, but I kind of had the upper hand
because I had this opportunity to hear what was going
on here, the mistakes, and then bring my a game.
Speaker 2: His buddy went with him. It was a they needed
a guitar player and a drummer, so they both auditioned.
They thought maybe as a team, we might have a
better shot at it. Yeah, and when they left, his buddy,
who is the guitar player, was like, dude, I think
you blew that.
Speaker 3: And it feels like really I thought I did. Okay,
you know, yeah, yeah, that's right. So yeah, well, and
then of course Peter continues to do the crazy stuff
with the costumes even more, and it's it's not just
a surprise of the man in the more, it's it's
pissing them off. Like he's like, you can't even with
a giant mask he's got on, he can't even get
his head next to the microphone anymore. That's right, it
doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: And we're talking ridiculous costumes like the old Man, and
he's like he looks like the grapes from the Fruit
of the Loom commercials and it's really weird stuff out there.
Speaker 3: Stuff. Yeah. So they release a lamb lies down on
Broadway and basically they know that Peter's out at this point.
He comes back to kind of do that tour with them,
but they know and he knows he's ultimately going to
be gone, and so they're they were like, okay, well,
we've got to audition people to be our new singer.
And so Phil has been the backup singer for Peter
Gabriel for multiple albums at this point, and they say, okay, well,
you know, Phil will show you how to sing this
part to each of the new people that are auditioning,
and every time, Phil's like, no, it's not this, it's this.
It's not this, it's this, And the guys are finally
like Phil, like you know the songs, why don't you
do this? And he's like, you know what, Okay, let
me try it, let me see it. Let's see what
I can do. I'll go. I'll give it a go.
And so he sings all of the songs on the album,
and the new album is called a Trick of the
Tale and is the best selling album that they had
had to date, and it was nineteen seventy six. Okay.
After they produced the album, they're like, okay, Phil, well,
I mean you're behind the drums, so we really have
to have a singer out in front, so we're gonna
have to audition singers and find somebody. And he's like
or we could audition other drummers. Yeah, and they're like, yeah, okay,
we can do that, and so that's what they did
to tour. A trick of the tale was they had
a new drummer come in the back and Fill got
to come out front.
Speaker 2: Yes, And so you know, you and I were kind
of going through their catalog and at what point did
you become aware of Genesis?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was it was not until the eighties.
It was not until the eighties. So Steve Hackett had
joined them in nineteen seventy after Aunt Phillips left, and
he had been with them through all of those albums,
but then in seventy seven he literally leaves the band.
He doesn't tell them he's leaving. He literally is just
like silence, Like he ghosts them. As the kids say,
these days, he doesn't show up. I heard this story
like Phil saw him walking on the street and Phil
knew they were supposed to be in the studio. He's like, hey, dude,
do you need a lyft uh huh. Guy's like no,
I'll call you later. I was like, okay, Yeah. He
gets to the studio and they're like, dude, he's out. Yeah,
he took off. He just left right before they exploded.
Right now, what he does is he goes and starts
a band with Steve Howe from Yes. So that's not
too shabby, that's that's not a bad bet because you've
got Yes who I mean huge prog rock Genesis during
the seventies was one of the prog rock bands right
right up there with Yes and Super Tramp, right yeah.
And so they form a band called gt R, which
is the abbreviation for guitar GTR. I've heard of them.
They have one song that does pretty well, but the
rest of them are just kind of no no hitters,
and it doesn't really go anywhere, not.
Speaker 2: Like Genesis, who is blowing the roof off in the
eighties and nineties.
Speaker 3: Right. So then after after Steve Hackett leaves, it's now
just Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford, and Phil Collins. And of
course they named the album and then there were three.
But to answer your question, yes, it was nineteen eighty Misunderstanding.
That was when the Duke is the album that was
it was on Misunderstanding was the song that I first
remember hearing from them. I don't know that I was
like comprehending Genesis was the band that did this, but
I know that song, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: Misunderstanding came out in nineteen eighty I think eighty one
you had No Reply at all in abacab yep, and
then in eighty three You've got That's All, which I
think I had that on one of my best of
eighty three or eighty four.
Speaker 3: I can't remember, probably yeah and Mama.
Speaker 2: And Mama and taking It All to Hard. That was
a really good song.
Speaker 3: I love that one. By the way. That album, which
is called Genesis Yes, was released on October third, nineteen
eighty three. Happy Birthday, d yep, my eighth birthday as
that album was released, and then after eighty three they
go doing their solo projects and then they come back
with Invisible Touch. Yes, all right, ready for our next song,
next song on the album, next on the album Throwing
It All Away, a heartbreaking breakup song. I think this
is like a divorce song, right yeah, yeah, or you know,
if you're in high school, it's breaking up song. Oh yeah,
oh yeah.
Speaker 2: I would have bet my final paycheck that Phil Collins
wrote this song because he was famous for writing breakup
divorce songs.
Speaker 3: Sure. The song's written by Mike Rutherford. Oh, okay, Man,
Mike had a ton of the very big hits on
this album.
Speaker 2: He had landa confusion, Yeah, and he had thrown it
all away. So this was the second single released August
of eighty six. I do distinctly remember when I broke
up with one of my girlfriends, or actually when she
dumped me. And she dumped me, I was like, you mean,
we're throwing it all three months, three months out the window.
Speaker 3: You just gotta throw three of the greatest months of
our lives away? Is that what you tell? What have
we been doing this?
Speaker 2: This song reached number four on the Hot one hundred
October eleventh of eighty six.
Speaker 3: Tell me the three songs that beat it out? Yeah? Okay?
So three is two of Heart's by Stacey Q. Two
of Heart's, Yeah I know.
Speaker 2: Number two is Don't You Forget About Me by the
Simple Minds.
Speaker 3: Well word, that's yeah, patre Binder, go back to Patreon.
That's one of the first ones we govered.
Speaker 2: Okay, before I give you the number one song, the
number seven song this week is a song called Heartbeat
by Don Johnson. Remember when Don Johnson had a top
ten hit?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do kind of remember that. Yeah, making full
use of his Miami vice power. I'd as well put
out an album. Yeah that's not a bad song though, No,
it's good. I like it.
Speaker 2: And the number one song this week is when I
Think of You Jenna Jackson.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize she was so big that early in
the eighties. That was her first big album. Yeah, yeah,
wow good.
Speaker 2: I almost like the football. Is this being the best
song on the album? I absolutely love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's beautiful. I think it kind of fits with
no jacket required.
Speaker 2: It's just that that sort of pump ballad thing that
Phil had going. Yeah, so I love it.
Speaker 3: It's a really good song. Yeah, yeah, no, it's it
is a good one, obviously, very memorable from that time period,
kind of sat though. It's not a makeout it's a
it's a breakout break and I don't want to listen
to a breakup song. I don't even want to slow
dance to a breakup song. Last song on the album,
Here we Go, This is my new discovery. This song
is called the Brazilian Okay, so to me, this has
got to be a throwback to the Frog days. And
once I was forty seconds in and I hadn't heard
any lyrics, and I kind of saw the way the
music was going. I'm like, oh, we're not going to
get any lyrics on this one. And then I was
listening more carefully of the drums. I'm like, oh, yeah,
because we're getting we're getting pill on the full nineteen seventies.
I mean, if I may bring it all back to
what I said before, I think it was in our
No Jacket Required album. His drumming blew my mind. When
you go listen to band X, which was his side
project when they were doing their stuff in the seventies,
his drumming is astoundingly good. It's like he makes Lars
Ulrich look like a baby good Like it's so good.
And here it is in this kind of cool eighties
instrumental powerhouse. I could see this definitely being on Miami
Vice episode or even like a full movie of something
along those lines. How about Magnum Pi. Could you see
being a Magnum Pi? Absolutely? This was used in an
episode of Magnum p I. There you go, right yeah.
Speaker 2: It's also used in an eighty six movie called Win
the Wind Blows.
Speaker 3: You ever seen that one? I have not? You ever seen?
Speaker 2: Mona Lisa I have not you ever seen Playing for Keeps,
the one he used in No Jacket Required.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen Buster either. I haven't seen Vester. I
haveven not seen any of those movies. I haven't.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: This won a Grammy for Best Pop Instrumental Performance.
Speaker 3: It's fantastic and I love it. Yeah, yeah, I love it.
Is new discovery for me. I'd never heard it before.
I listened to this album and this I loved it.
Speaker 2: All right, d we're at the end of our trinity
of Genesis, Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel. Let us ascend now
to final judgment.
Speaker 3: Okay, first we got to bring in Chad Briggs and
he will give us his take on these three albums
and how he ranks them.
Speaker 4: Chad go for Buddy, So I think I would put
as number three Invisible Touch, and it's not as slight
against the album. But interestingly, I never owned the album
Invisible Touch. I don't know why I owned everything else
from Genesis. I owned the earlier stuff, even like the
very very first album. I owned the CDs for it.
For some reason, a Visible Touch just sort of slipped
through the fingers. But for whatever reason, it just didn't it,
did it? Didn't play as large a role in my
life at that time. Number two I would probably put
no Jacket Required. Now, this is really tough for me,
because if you would have asked me back in the
nineteen eighties, I think no Jacket Required would have been
number one. I owned the cassette. I played it all
the time. Loved the videos, especially Billy Don't Lose My Number.
I loved the video for that Take Me Home as
an exchange student was really really hit with me. And
you know, and Phil Collins was one of the first
people to do these big world tours, and so the
video I think sort of encapsulated that. But for whatever reason,
it didn't follow me into my adult life, and so
that leaves no umber one. I would say, And this
was probably not a surprise from you if you heard
me talking about Peter Gabriel, soo right. It was the
first music CD I ever owned. Luckily I owned the
CD so that the proper song was in the end
position that Peter Gabriel so was just so much of
my life. I owned the CD because I gave it
as a gift to my best friend Eric, who had
introduced me to Peter Gabriel, introduced me to Pink Floyd
introduced me to all of the early sort of English
seventies rock, like like Dire Straits Queen. His parents had
already boughtom the CD for Christmas, and so he gave
it back to me, and so I owned the C
I had the CD. I did not own a CD
player until years later, but it stuck with me. I
still own the CD. I still have that CD.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 4: But the songs from that I think just sort of
carried over into my adult life into Peter Gabel's US album,
which I know I mentioned to your earlier d like.
I was there in October nineteen ninety two when they
released the album. Went to the exclusive Company store in Madison,
Wisconsin at midnight so that I could be one of
the first people to own it. I went out of
my way to buy the bootleg copies of early Genesis
when I lived in Budapest in the early nineties, and
then later I did go back and buy the proper CDs.
So yeah, that to me was the top album. And again,
not to not to malign any of the Genesis songs,
I need to Phil Collins stuff. Still always loved him,
but for me so was was that?
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 4: That was one of my favorite albums of all time?
Speaker 3: Thanks Jed, Yeah, thank you Chad. Okay, not a big surprise.
Surprise surprise there. Chad started the conversation we had with Okay,
I want to do so and what else? So do
you guys want to right exactly? He planned his flag
pretty early on that one. Okay, I want you to
go first. I want me to go, you go first.
So this is this is really interesting to me because
I had never listened to the entire album of any
of these three albums before we started doing this. I
was obviously very familiar with tons of the of the
songs that are on it because of the singles that
are out, and when Chad suggested so, I was like,
is there something on them? Beside is that the one
Sledgehammer on it? I don't even couldn't even remember any
of the other songs now. Of course, once I once
I reviewed it, I was like, oh, these are these
are all incredibly good songs, but the other two albums
have more nostalgia for me than So does and Sledgehammer
I was tired of it by the time when it's
full run, so I got to put so at number three. Now,
what I have left is basically Phil Collins versus Phil
Collins here, And it's hard. This is really really hard
because I feel like that Invisible Touch has more stronger songs,
but I feel like No Jacket Require has stronger, stronger songs.
Like it's not as many, but it's I feel like
No Jacket Requires when it hits, it hits harder than
Invisible Touch. Interesting, Okay, And so it's very This is
a very very close call for me, but I have
to pick as number one. No Jacket Required. Invisible Touch
is a very very close song.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's so interesting. Okay, So I'm glad you
went first because I've been wrestling with this all day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I think there are brilliant songs on Peter Gabriel's album,
so I definitely didn't know it as well. It did
rise in my eyes after taking a deep dive with
Chad and him guiding us through that.
Speaker 3: So moved the needle for me. It did move the
needle for me.
Speaker 2: I appreciated it definitely more now than I did. And
then I'm looking at No Jacket Required, which I owned,
an Invisible Touch, which I owned and I'm like, man,
these songs are so good and they are so anchored
in those years. For me, eighty five eighty six, No
Jacket Required is kind of like Star Wars in that
I fell in love with it right.
Speaker 3: Off the bat.
Speaker 2: I love the songs. There's a lot of them. They're
all good. There's no skippers, and there's even a bonus song,
which I think is amazing. But Invisible Touch for me,
is kind of like Empire strikes back, just what I
didn't think it could be any better. I think those
songs just hit me harder. Yeah, Land of Confusion, Invisible Touch,
Tonight Tonight, Tonight, Throwing it All Away, those are just
amazing songs. So by a nose, yeah, by one of
Mike Rutherford's beard hairs.
Speaker 3: Invisible Touch ekes out No Jacket Required with so finishing thirty. Okay,
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pretty epic contest coming up on our next episode, Jason.
Speaker 2: So next week we're actually, this is totally coincidental, but
Al Kilmer's death just havingus to coincide with our matchup
of weird science, a sort of snobs versus slobs, you know,
almost a revenge of the Nerds type of story with
real genius.
Speaker 3: Same thing, Val Kilmer Nerds and love nerds. The nerds
save the day exactly. Yeah, So come back.
Speaker 2: Next week as we dive into weird science versus real genius.
Speaker 3: See you guys, then, thank you so much. Bye bye