Speaker 1: Rich.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Rich, Good morning to you. Bill.
Speaker 2: All Right, great story out there about AI and shoplifting. Now,
Speaker 2: is this to help people shoplift or is it to
Speaker 2: fight shoplifting. I'm a little confused.
Speaker 1: Well, it is to fight shop Oh I feel bad. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's probably a smarter use of it. This
Speaker 1: is called vision. We went to a seven to eleven
Speaker 1: and seem Valley that's using it, and it's just what
Speaker 1: you would imagine. So instead of having a person sit
Speaker 1: there and watch the cameras twenty four to seven, you
Speaker 1: actually have AI doing that and they're analyzing the video
Speaker 1: feeds from existing cameras, by the way, and they are
Speaker 1: looking for suspicion. It's just gestures that might indicate shoplifting.
Speaker 1: That's really what this is all about. Any sort of
Speaker 1: gesture is putting something in your pocket, bag whatever. It's
Speaker 1: trained on like five thousand different clients that they have
Speaker 1: around the world, millions of interactions, and as soon as
Speaker 1: you put something in your pocket or do something that
Speaker 1: might be deemed suspicious, the store owner gets an immediate
Speaker 1: alert and it says, hey, this might be shoplifting, and
Speaker 1: let's they can decide what they want to do with that. Okay.
Speaker 2: So if you, for example, you pick up something and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you have you have an
Speaker 2: itch in your in your junk and you go to
Speaker 2: scratch it, you're in trouble.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, because you know, the AI is trained.
Speaker 1: It's better than a human. So it's going to sit
Speaker 1: there and understand scratching yourself versus putting something in your
Speaker 1: pocket or hiding or concealing something. And so you know,
Speaker 1: each each one of these flags gets a grade, so
Speaker 1: it may say, you know, low alert, medium alert, critical alert.
Speaker 1: So it's you know, it's not perfect because it's AI,
Speaker 1: but it's going to sort of score itself and say like, look,
Speaker 1: we think this is a critical interaction versus this person
Speaker 1: just scratched themselves.
Speaker 2: And so it's I find it fascinating that this is
Speaker 2: a machine learning AI at sort of at this point,
Speaker 2: at its far reaches where it can understand analyze and
Speaker 2: as you say, it's like a CIA report high credibility,
Speaker 2: medium credibility, low incident or low chance. And how how
Speaker 2: advanced is this go ahead?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I mean I tried it. I tried it,
Speaker 1: and I you know, I took some batteries and I
Speaker 1: will tell you you know, when they when they had
Speaker 1: me try it, they said like, hey, make sure you're
Speaker 1: sort of like visible doing this. So you know, it's
Speaker 1: one of these things where I think the technology is
Speaker 1: still evolving like anything else. And I think that's someone
Speaker 1: that is really good at, you know, concealing or making
Speaker 1: sure they're not sort of near a camera, like if
Speaker 1: the cameras don't have a good view of every aspect
Speaker 1: of the store, that might be a problem. But I
Speaker 1: think that in general, I mean a couple of times
Speaker 1: I tested it out. You know, I put something in
Speaker 1: my bag. It flagged it almost immediately. So you have
Speaker 1: to think about Bill. I don't know if you ever
Speaker 1: worked retail, but I did back in the day. And
Speaker 1: you know, we used to have literally people sitting in
Speaker 1: the rafters, like you know, up above the store. It
Speaker 1: was a one way mirror and they were just watching
Speaker 1: over the store and kind of checking out what people
Speaker 1: were doing, looking in, maybe zooming in with cameras. Once
Speaker 1: that technology came along, it was not a perfect system.
Speaker 1: And so and neither is this. I don't think any
Speaker 1: AI is perfect. But at the same time, you got
Speaker 1: to think about if you're a small business owner, what's
Speaker 1: your option. You are either watching these cameras twenty four
Speaker 1: to seven, rewinding video after the fact. This is in
Speaker 1: real time. And so when you think about that paradigm shift,
Speaker 1: you are being empowered as a store owner. You understand
Speaker 1: what's happening to your inventory in near real time versus
Speaker 1: you know, a week later, did you take the batteries home? Yes,
Speaker 1: I now have some D batteries, the ones that you
Speaker 1: never really need.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the ones that they missed. All right, coming back,
Speaker 2: I want to have a good time with us. I'm
Speaker 2: going to ask you a question. This has to do
Speaker 2: with AI powered radio radio stations, and oh boy, am
Speaker 2: I going to have a.
Speaker 1: Good time with that.
Speaker 2: And then I have a challenge for us, and I'll
Speaker 2: come back with that and let's continue on. Finish up
Speaker 2: with our tech segment. Rich Demurrow or tech guy, Let's
Speaker 2: finish it up. Rich, oh is this a great topic
Speaker 2: that you came up with, AI powered radio station. All right,
Speaker 2: explain that one, and then a challenge.
Speaker 1: What are we talking about? I did this, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: did this for a reason because obviously you've been in
Speaker 1: radio for many, many years, and I you know, I'm
Speaker 1: just curious what you think about this trend. But let
Speaker 1: me tell you the story. So right now in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: there is a pop up radio station called one oh
Speaker 1: six point three the Fizz Okay, and it's all AI powered.
Speaker 1: So the music, the DJs, all everything is just AI
Speaker 1: the audio everything, and so it's it's made to kind
Speaker 1: of have the feel of a nineties pop station or
Speaker 1: maybe an eighties pop station. But here's the deal, bill
Speaker 1: it is one hundred percent advertising Slice Soda, which you
Speaker 1: probably remember that brand back in the day. They are
Speaker 1: now rebranding as a more of like a healthy soda.
Speaker 1: So whatever it is. But the point is, I listened
Speaker 1: to this station this morning, and I think the magic
Speaker 1: here is if you are just surfing the airwaves and
Speaker 1: you happen to land upon this station. At first, it
Speaker 1: sounds like a little pop station, but all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're like, wait a second. Every song they're singing about
Speaker 1: is soda related? Every band name is soda related. The
Speaker 1: DJ sounds a little off because it's AI. But anyway,
Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of funny that they're doing
Speaker 1: this as a you know, a pop up radio station
Speaker 1: in Promota soda.
Speaker 2: Okay, that part is interesting. I love the marketing end
Speaker 2: of that. But of course, moving right into the technology, how,
Speaker 2: for example, do the DJ sound when they're either introducing
Speaker 2: music or doing some banter, if they do it at all.
Speaker 2: And that's and then that leads right into our challenge here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's just one DJ, bev AI generated female
Speaker 1: and you know, I was listening this morning, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't sound that convincing, like you might look if you're
Speaker 1: passing through the airwaves and you just kind of land
Speaker 1: upon this for a couple of minutes, you might not
Speaker 1: really think much about it, but then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: if you listen for a while, you'll be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: something's a little different here. And I'm not sure they
Speaker 1: reveal that it's all AI on the station, but they
Speaker 1: use like off the shelf stuff, So they use Suno
Speaker 1: s U and m which is an AI music creation website,
Speaker 1: and so that's where they made the songs, and they
Speaker 1: used Gemini to sort of come up with the names
Speaker 1: and the scripts that this DJ says, and so it's
Speaker 1: all just like off the shelf stuff that they use
Speaker 1: for this stunt. But I think it's it's a bigger issue, Bill,
Speaker 1: and I'm ready for your challenge. But you know, we're
Speaker 1: hearing more and more about AI taking over jobs and
Speaker 1: taking over things. If you wanted to do this five
Speaker 1: years ago, let's say you would have had to hire
Speaker 1: a voice actor to do the AI voice. You would
Speaker 1: have had to create someone that's creative, or hire someone
Speaker 1: that's creative to make the musical tunes, you know, hire
Speaker 1: writers to make the songs, the backstories for all the bands.
Speaker 1: And now all this is done on a computer using
Speaker 1: AI instantly.
Speaker 2: Now you're talking about original songs written by AI, not
Speaker 2: just choosing songs that go in and just you know,
Speaker 2: having a DJ banter and in true songs per in
Speaker 2: AI program, you're actually talking about writing music.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's but these these they literally have a couple
Speaker 1: of these tools online that will write songs like that
Speaker 1: make you can say what you want. I can say
Speaker 1: I want a country ballad about downloading apps on the
Speaker 1: iPhone and it will write a song with words or not.
Speaker 1: Now I understand the words, but the music parts, the melody,
Speaker 1: that is all the right thing. Yeah, there's a credible
Speaker 1: d O U d io. It's it's will I am
Speaker 1: as one of the big backers. Okay, the other one
Speaker 1: is soon o. But these are things that people should
Speaker 1: be aware of that are happening, like, okay, it's happening,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: Challenge of course, and you know where I'm going with this.
Speaker 2: How do we put together uh an ai powered interview
Speaker 2: or conversation that you and I have during the course
Speaker 2: of the show and it may sound horrible at first,
Speaker 2: and then we would do it as technology evolved.
Speaker 1: Uh Is it possible to that? Yes? Absolutely there are
Speaker 1: I mean Google's Notebook LM will do it. Maybe not
Speaker 1: in our voice, but if you want something that's in
Speaker 1: our voices, yep, there's other there's other tools like eleven Labs.
Speaker 1: I'd have to look into it. They do the big
Speaker 1: voice to text stuff, but I think they could probably
Speaker 1: handle the actual you know, making it in our voices.
Speaker 1: But okay, Harry, I mean I don't know if I
Speaker 1: want that because I oh, yes, you don't.
Speaker 2: No, no, yes you do. No, yes you do, because
Speaker 2: the thought of both of us being put out of
Speaker 2: business by one of these excites they hell out of me.
Speaker 2: Because I still have a contract. I get paid whether
Speaker 2: or not I'm here or not. So I'm fine with this.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: The question is can we try to do it?
Speaker 1: I will look up the tools, Yeah, I will. Okay,
Speaker 1: are you prepared?
Speaker 2: And then whatever, and if we have to hire someone
Speaker 2: to put it together, I will pay for it.
Speaker 1: So is whatever it.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to spend thousands of dollars, but I
Speaker 2: will spend I'll spend a few hundred.
Speaker 1: That would defeat the purpose if we If we spent
Speaker 1: thousands doing that, you might as well just be their live.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true, that's true, but I would I'm issuing
Speaker 2: this challenge right now. Rich. If we can put together
Speaker 2: a segment where you and I are not here and
Speaker 2: it's we can broadcast it. Man, am I getting excited
Speaker 2: about this?
Speaker 1: Okay? Let me let me. Let me see how to
Speaker 1: do this, and we'll see if we can proceed.
Speaker 2: Okay, and then one real quick one voice to text
Speaker 2: app for iPhone. I have an iPhone, and so tell
Speaker 2: me about this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how well the voice to text
Speaker 1: works for you. It does not work very well for me.
Speaker 1: But I've been using this app for the past two
Speaker 1: months in beta. It is quite incredible. It's called whisper
Speaker 1: flow wi sp r flow, and basically, once you add
Speaker 1: it on your iPhone, it's kind of like adding a keyboard.
Speaker 1: You basically talk into the app and it formats everything perfectly,
Speaker 1: so you can speak if you want to do a
Speaker 1: text message, a Gmail whatever it is, and it uses
Speaker 1: AI so it doesn't just get the words right, it
Speaker 1: gets how you're saying them properly. So Bill, if I
Speaker 1: said three things to talk about on the show today,
Speaker 1: it would actually list those out in the one, two, three,
Speaker 1: like it would understand that I'm giving you a list
Speaker 1: like that. So it formats everything perfectly. And if you
Speaker 1: said something with like exclamation, like if you were like, hey, Bill,
Speaker 1: we should definitely do this, it would put an explanation
Speaker 1: mark at the end of there. So, I mean, it
Speaker 1: really does a lot of things really well. It is free.
Speaker 1: It's available on the App Store starting now. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I've been using it for the past couple of months
Speaker 1: on my iPhone.
Speaker 2: Everything you don't do the little microphone on the bottom
Speaker 2: with your text.
Speaker 1: Never because it is so horrible to me. I just
Speaker 1: don't think it works. I mean, so when you see
Speaker 1: something like.
Speaker 2: This whisper flow, and that's the app in the app.
Speaker 1: Store, right, yeah, I'll link it up on my website.
Speaker 1: So I want to make sure you get the right one.
Speaker 1: Rich on tech dot TV, don't download some random thing
Speaker 1: that says whisper because it could be you know who knows.
Speaker 1: All right, down TV, I will do that.
Speaker 2: Okay, you got it, all right, rich Thank you. We'll
Speaker 2: catch you this weekend eleven to two pm right here
Speaker 2: on KFI everyday at k t l A. He's KTLA's
Speaker 2: tech guy, Instagram, at rich on tech and the website
Speaker 2: rich on tech dot tv.
Speaker 1: As he said, Rich, you have a good one. We'll
Speaker 1: catch you next week, all right. You stay careful with
Speaker 1: that vegan tiki masala.
Speaker 2: Oh god, by the way, the only thing I ate
Speaker 2: was the rice. I'll tell you right now.
Speaker 1: The rest of it was gone.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, thank you,