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Speaker 1: The Incredible Hulk will not be present of this evening.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody back to the Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast.

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We are on a super special edition where we are

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covering the Star Wars Holiday Special with some of our

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great friends from the thirty something Movie Podcast. I'm here

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with my co host Jason. Jason, are you doing man?

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I'm doing great.

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Speaker 3: D I'm excited to be here and excited to hang

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out with our buddies from thirty something.

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Speaker 2: We have a plate of wookie ookie cookies right in

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front of us here, we're jumping on them. And to

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introduce the thirty something guys, we have John Reid.

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Speaker 1: Hey, how's it going.

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Speaker 4: We've got more than four people, and I think we

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need a banth Rump to feed more than four, don't we.

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We have hardy appetite. I mean we have a hardy appetites.

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So I mean Pat Alan could probably take down one

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banther Rump.

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Speaker 3: We need Harvey Corman and Dragged to come and look.

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Speaker 1: It for us.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what's more disturbing is is him doing

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the cooking show or the fact that they were eating

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Bantha Rump. I don't I just I don't know about

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that any of that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, what are bantha is supposed to be pets

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or food?

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Speaker 1: I know there's that.

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Speaker 4: There's that deleted scene I think from the original Star

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Wars where Luke has the macro binoculars. He's like, yeah,

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there's there's two banthas. I can see one of them

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now and that, Oh that one looks tasty and I'd

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like a side of that.

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Speaker 3: Hey, according to the Mandalorian, the Creedy Dragon really thinks

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banthas are tasty.

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Speaker 1: It's true. Yeah, that show.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I wish we could talk about that show all right.

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Who you got with us tonight?

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Speaker 4: John, We've got so I dragged a couple other people

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here with me. I've got Pat Cannagallo. Pat, I think

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you're your your background here on Zoom. You're on the Orca,

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aren't you.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 5: I've been on the Orca put Off from Ami Island

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and podcast thing ever since. So it's great to be

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here this I mean, huge fan of your guys show.

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I mean it's it's great and I know we were

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saying before we started recording, yet it's been a while

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and it sort of it's been a while, but sort

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of not because I've listened to you guys, like you know,

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almost every day I'm listening to one of your episodes,

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so it feels like, you know, it's just like.

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Speaker 2: I just saw you yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Thanks so, thank you so much for having us here.

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Speaker 2: We feel the same way you guys every week. It

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is a joy to listen to you guys get together

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and hit a movie that's thirty years old.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, guys, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: And I've also got the Man, the myth, the legend,

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Dennis Mantuca over here too.

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Speaker 6: Hey, pleasure to be here. Thank you guys for having

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me and looking forward to this. I just you guys

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are all talking about appetites and eating. I have no

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idea how after watching that, you guys have an appetite

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for at least forty eight hours.

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Speaker 4: I did bring Dennis because I wanted to make sure

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we had somebody who was a full grown adult when

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this came on. So, you know, Dennis is Dennis is

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really old. He's you know, what are you now, like sixty?

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Speaker 2: Didn't you just have a birthday? And what was it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was earlier than yours.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so how old are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm forty two.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're the youngest. No, No, forty five. John's

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forty just turned forty. Happy birthday. Gosh, happy birthday, man.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Happy birthday, John and an old soul. Now, wait

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a minute, your birthday is very close to life day.

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What are we talking? Day?

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Speaker 1: December sixth, Oh, dang.

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Speaker 3: That was a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: So it's close. It was close.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, John, you're forty Dennis, held, are you forty nine?

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That's okay, I'm forty seven.

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Speaker 2: I'm forty five, so I'm square in the middle of you, guys.

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I just we were trying to remember what we really

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remember about watching the Star Wars Holiday special.

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Speaker 3: Dennis, did you see this in the original?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Actually we did. We saw it on TV the actual run.

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a big memory the treehouse, the Stormtroopers up there, and

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I remember like Han Solo rushing in, and I do

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remember Luke being on there and looking different than he

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did in the movie.

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Speaker 3: We were just talking. So I definitely am old enough

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to remember going to see Star Wars in the theaters,

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seven I would be four. But it was released several times,

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so it was released in seventy seven, it was re

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released in seventy eight and seventy nine, so I'm not

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sure which. I remember having a C threebo figure in

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my hand when I went, so it couldn't have been

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the original run. I don't know. It's tough trying to

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put together those memories. But Star Wars was a hugely

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important thing in my life still is really, so.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the original, the actual Star Wars I did see

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in the theater. I mean I had because I had

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four older brothers, so I was in that situation where

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I was going to get dragged along to the theater

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with them. So I saw a lot of movies when

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I was realted. I look back now and I'm like, wow,

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I saw that when I was like five or six

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or seven, and you kind of remember. But I do

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remember having like nightmare dreams a little bit over the

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original Star Wars, just about stormtroopers chasing me through Kmart

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like it.

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Speaker 1: It was more for me.

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Speaker 4: The original original Star Wars I saw in eighty one.

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I would have been like one or two years old.

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But I know this for a fact because and I

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saw it at home, didn't see it in the theater,

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because I was born in eighty My dad and I

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remember him telling this. He must have lorded this over

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us for a while. He must have spent something like

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eight hundred dollars nine hundred dollars on a VCR back

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in eighty one, and he only had enough money left

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over to by one VHS tape because they were about

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eighty or ninety bucks apiece at the time, and so

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he bought the original Star Wars. I still have that

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VHS tape sitting somewhere in a box I will I

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won't play it because it'll get ripped to shreds if

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I still have that.

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Speaker 4: And that was So that was like my babysitter for

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a while, because my parents realized if they stuck me

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in front of the TV and put that on, I'm

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not crawling away. I'm not going anywhere. I'm locked in.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so on a scale of one to ten, with

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ten being the most nerdy Star Wars fan that you

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can be and one being you saw one of the movies,

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where do you get where do you guys from this?

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Speaker 4: This one goes to eleven? Okay, now that's for me. Yeah,

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for me, it's I'm I'm a ten. If there's something

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higher than ten, sure, like I'm the one. If bo

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was on here, he would tell you don't play Star

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Wars trivia pursuit with me. I had a buddy that

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Star Wars trivia at a bar that's that's up in

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one of the towns up here. And I didn't want

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to be the lonely dork sitting there by myself doing

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Star Wars trivia. So a friend of mine went with me,

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and he's like, I like Star Wars, but I'm not

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gonna be able to answer any of these questions. And

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so I single handedly answered every single question right and

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I won. I mean I was in a room of

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like eighty other people. I won just by myself versus

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these teams of like eight to ten people. So and

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I dressed my family up, like we go to the

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comic book conventions here in Chicago, and my kids are

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dressed up. My daughter was the Mandalorian, my wife was

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Casta knew that the Jedi Library in the last time

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we went. You know, I've done Luke Skywalker all the no.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what about you?

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Speaker 5: Well, if John is a ten like I, I've never

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like been on an Okay, John's eleven. I mean I

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don't know. I would. I would definitely say like an

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how much do I love Star Wars? I would say

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a ten. As far as like just having that knowledge,

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of just having that knowledge. So that's that's the only

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because I mean I remember, you know, like some

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of my earliest members playing with the neighbor, and like

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then I had a friend that would come over and

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she'd be Princess Leah. I mean from the earliest memories,

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dowel rods, or breaking the broom part off a broom

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handle and then taping it up to make a lightsaber.

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like super early memories. It's Star Wars was always a.

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Speaker 1: Part of it.

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and my parents deny that up and down. But like

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I mean in that scene. Still I watch it and

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: I'm just like you know, drawn to that. But I

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remember getting like a shoebox like you'd buy shoes, and

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the shoe box you could it up and it had

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some little like pieces you could play with and it

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that looked like hath like it had a little picture

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of the Millennium falcon and you know, so I mean

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all these like super early memories of being a kid

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and playing with that and all that and I mean

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it was like Star Wars was always there, you know,

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you as soon as the books started coming out, before

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when there were only three movies, picking up all the books,

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reading all the books, talking about it with friends, you know,

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the idea that there's going to be a prequel series.

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What no, really?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, look at it, dude.

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Speaker 5: It says episode four. That means there's one two it

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like just I just remember spending hours talking about that,

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and so anyways, I won't get too long winded, but

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I would definitely say eight or nine. I mean, i'd

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say ten, but I can't compare it to John's level

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of Star Wars intelligence and dedication, So I wouldn't want

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to put myself in his class of that. But love

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for Star Wars, Yeah, I definitely put it up there,

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all right, Dani's You're next?

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of what Pat says, especially when John says at ten

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had everything, we were involved. I mean it was it

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opening day, waiting in line. And then the same thing

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with Jedi. It was like we had to see those.

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Now that I'm you know, elderly, it's like, now you

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get to the point where with all the other movies,

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who are still so very die hard about that all

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the way up to whatever comes out. While I love

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it at a ten, my knowledge and probably fan qualifications,

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we'd probably closer to like the eighth.

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Speaker 1: So I'd put it probably like around an eight. That

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would be fair.

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Speaker 6: Otherwise, like you said, like Pat perfectly said, it's kind

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of an insult to anybody who's at ten. If you're

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gonna set ten is the benchmark and John is an eleven, I.

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you know.

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Speaker 3: So you got George Lucas and John as a ten,

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and then we've dropping down just a little bit lower

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than that, yeah.

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Speaker 2: John May maybe above George. I don't know that he

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cares as much about.

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Speaker 3: His George Lucas John Jon Favreau, Where are you Okay?

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Speaker 2: So I'm glad to be here with you guys, because

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I know that Jason rinks far above me as well.

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guys are at. So I watched all of the movies,

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and I can tell you things about all of the movies.

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And when I was a kid, I had Star Wars

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sheets on my bed, and I played with the figurines,

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but I was not action figures, figurines, figurines whatever. I

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played with those a little bit, probably as much as

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I played with the Ga Joe guys, but it was

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I don't have I don't have the nerd knowledge base

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on this one. I obviously have it on a whole

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lot of other things, plenty of nerdness over here, but

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Star Wars is not my wheelhouse. So I would say

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I'm probably a five, okay, all right? For me?

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Speaker 3: I would say for the original trilogy, I would say

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I'm a ten, But I dropped. I start dropping after that.

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and you know, very interested in those. I was a

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little bit let down, and you know the books and

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the comics, I kind of fade. But four, five, and

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six for me, I'm top of the heat. Probably so

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very very meaningful movies to me change my life.

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Speaker 2: So I said, we should probably break up the conversations

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that we'll have from time to time by doing a

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little bit of trivia. And my intention was to bring

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some Star Wars trivia. And Jason actually has the Star

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Wars trivial pursuit, but I forgot mine. But I happened

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to have eighties and nineties trivia cards in my car

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are So I said to Jason, I'm like, this is

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actually good because I would just fail miserably at the

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Star Wars trivia. But we will break it up from

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time to time with some Star Wars trivia and see

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see if you guys have accurately. Are you ready ranked yourself? Yeah,

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I'll let me do one. Let me go first, since

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I'm the guy that doesn't know the Star Wars stuff,

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I'll be the question here. All right, Okay, what is

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the first line of dialogue spoken in a New Hope? Okay,

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Jason has his hand up he's wrung his buzzer. Pat,

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you have your hand up, and John, do you know it?

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Speaker 1: I think I do. You guys had your hands up first,

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but I think I know it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I'm gonna say it's C three PO saying

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they've shut down the main reactor will be destroyed for sure.

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Speaker 1: I think it's C three PO saying did you hear that?

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Speaker 5: I think I might want to put my hand down. Okay,

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I was going to say, I was going to say

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they've shut down the main reactor, but I didn't remember

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then the next part, so I don't remember the portion

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of it. Portion of it is C three people saying

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they've shut down the main reaction.

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Speaker 6: That John is correct on that, because I I think

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that other line comes either like a couple of sentences in.

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Speaker 3: I think it's did you hear that they've shut down

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the main reactor?

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Speaker 2: Well, that is the correct answer, did you hear that

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they shut down the main reactor? So I don't know

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who would give credit to on that one, because you

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were close, but I got to say that John got

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the first at least four words spot on. So I'm gonna.

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Speaker 6: Technically, did R two D two beep or anything before that?

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Would that counted as dialogue? I maybe was he responding

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back to him or was he actually the first line?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Dang, dang, it's good.

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Speaker 4: It's it's it's life, It's life day. It's a group effort.

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I mean we got, you know, we got the first

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couple of lines together as a collective thing.

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Speaker 3: So all right, well, are we ready to dive into

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the Star Wars Holiday special?

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Speaker 1: Dive into this thing like a pool we didn't know

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was empty?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So, like we said, this was released on November seventeenth,

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nineteen seventy eight. The budget was about a million bucks.

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Speaker 1: On this.

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Speaker 2: Already charged that much.

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Speaker 3: Million dollars, one million bucks in nineteen seventy eight. I mean,

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what was Star Wars' budget? I mean it wasn't tons.

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Speaker 5: You know, well, anything that resembled a special effect was

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all like a like a like a.

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Speaker 6: Grab from the movie.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know what they spent.

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Speaker 3: They stole a lot of stuff, you know, footage from

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the original Star Wars on this, clearly, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The original the budget the budget for the original Star

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Wars movie is eleven million.

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Speaker 3: Eleven million bucks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is at least his tenth A good ten good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: If Star Wars is a ten, then this is a

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one right right.

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Speaker 2: By the way, this is the worst score I've ever

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seen on IMDb. It ranks two point one on IMDb

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out of ten. I have never seen a score that

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bad in my life. Wow.

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Speaker 3: Wow, have you guys? Did I take it that you

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guys watched the on YouTube? There's one particular showing of

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it from a Ohio TV station that's really clear. Yeah, yes,

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I oh, I believe Channel seven and Dayton has this

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wonderful copy on YouTube. If you haven't seen it yet

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and you're listening to this and you want to throw

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away at an hour in thirty seven minutes of your life,

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check it out on YouTube. It is crystal cleare pretty

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good quality.

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Speaker 2: Grab a beer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the quality of that one is great. And having

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seen this probably like six or seven years ago, this

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was a second watch for me, or a second like

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all the way through watch for me. And I will

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say it was funny already knowing when I was getting

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myself in when I started watching this, you know, just

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a few days ago when that YouTube video popped up

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and it actually starts before the special starts, and it's

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like The Incredible Hulk will not be shown tonight, and

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I'm sitting there going, oh, man, Incredible Hulk, I'd.

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Speaker 1: Much rather watch that.

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Speaker 2: You put me on the on the Incredible Hulk Nerd scale,

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and I'm a ten. It's solid ten on the Incredible

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I had when my brother would go get baseball cards,

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I would only get Incredible Hulk cards. I obsessed over

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Luf Rigno. I watched every movie he was in, even

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the ones that were well, they were all bad.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, But the question, the question is when you

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walk out of a room, do you have the Lonely

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Man theme queued up on your phone to play?

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Speaker 2: I put my head down and then if you pull

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it up and roar.

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Speaker 5: Do people not want to make you angry?

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Speaker 2: It would like anyone I'm angry?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 3: When his eyes turned tail blue, just run for the hill,

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all right. So this was broadcast on a Friday, right

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around Thanksgiving. Like we said, November seventeen, thirteen million people

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watch this. It finished second behind The Love Boat.

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Speaker 2: Let's be specific. Thirteen million people watched about the first

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hour of this, and then there was a unanimous click

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heard around the world as people turned their TV dial

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to some other channel besides CBS.

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Speaker 4: It's as if it's as if a million voices suddenly

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cried out error.

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Speaker 1: Was suddenly silenced.

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Speaker 2: I I got it. This one started off. It was

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a pitch by CBS to Lucas and they wanted to

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do it, and Lucas saw this as an opportunity to

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make more money with the action figures and other merchandise

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and so. But their plan was to do a like

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a combination of Star Wars and a variety show. Because

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in the seventies, variety shows were the thing, right you

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had the Carol Burnett Show, and you had like there

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were a bunch of the Mandrel Sisters. Yeah, yeah, there

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were a ton of those kind of variety shows. But

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actually by nineteen seventy eight people had kind of gotten

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tired of them. So it was a really dated idea

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that they decided to go ahead with.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, Well, and frankly, I mean, you guys are probably

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gonna mention this, but frankly, on paper, this it looks

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like this should have been fine. Like they had they

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had some pretty good talent lined up for this. I

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mean they had Art Carney, I mean, they had Harvey Korman,

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they I mean yeah, on paper.

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Speaker 6: When you said on paper you meant cast I wanted

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you to make sure that not writing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh the writers. No, I think the writers, and I

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think writers.

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Speaker 6: If I read this like a screenplay I have, I'm lost.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, the writers. I think.

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Speaker 4: In fact, some of the writers even admitted that they

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were coked out of their minds when they made this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the the original script actually sounded like it might

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have been pretty good. Like Lumpy disappears and they're trying

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to track him down. That sounded like it might have

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been a little bit more interesting story than waiting for GOODO.

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I mean waiting for Chewbacca.

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Speaker 3: Chewbacca dead, be dead?

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, So that brings me to my point is

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this is something where I'm just like, how do we

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have a guy who is working as a smuggler as

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his job as the family man, who has a kid

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and a wife and a dad at home, and he's

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got a nice house too. I thought these guys were

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barely scraping by, and I mean he's living in what

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I would consider a mouse.

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Speaker 4: Threehouse's that's spice money.

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Speaker 5: I'm Jason, I'm really glad to hear you say that.

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Because I thought, for when you said dead be dad, like,

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I thought, oh, man, I'm watching this with two mod

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of a lens. I gotta keep a lid on this tonight.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 5: But then I watched that. That's kind of what I

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kept thinking was he's is that his kid or is

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that his little brother? Like I don't And then and

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then yeah, I don't know that I bumped on that

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as well.

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Speaker 4: Pat don't answer this question, but how do you feel

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about Superman and Superman returns?

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Speaker 3: I'm with I'm with you, I know where I'm with you.

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One of the cool things about the Star Wars Holiday

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Special in nineteen seventy eight, you actually do get Mark

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Hamill as Luke Skywalker, Harrison Ford as Hans Solo, you

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get carry Fisher with the buns. You get Peter.

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Speaker 2: Mayhew the whole buns. Let's talk. I'm sure she had

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very nice buns.

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Speaker 3: Carry Fisher had nice buns, for sure. By return of

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the Jet, well, okay, Peter Mayhew's you have Anthony Daniels

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at C three PO Kenny Baker for whatever reason, not

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there not there they use the remote control Art D two.

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Speaker 2: And so his introduction was R two D two as him,

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so two D two right, and then you have James

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Earl Jones who did not Yeah, he did not get

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credit in the original Star Wars.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: So this is the first time that you hear that

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Darth Vader is James Earl Jones.

478
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,319
Speaker 3: Yeah. So that to me as a kid, I mean

479
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,880
even as an adult, that part of me where I

480
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:36,519
want to absorb anything from a new hope, right, anything

481
00:22:37,079 --> 00:22:39,799
from a new hope I loved particularly I loved The

482
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,559
Muppet Show with Mark hammelin stuff like that. As a kid,

483
00:22:43,759 --> 00:22:46,240
I love that stuff. Anything extra I can get my

484
00:22:46,279 --> 00:22:50,680
hands on was awesome. And these segments are bad. But

485
00:22:50,799 --> 00:22:52,279
it is those characters, you know.

486
00:22:53,279 --> 00:22:56,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean they are still their characters, except

487
00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:01,720
that Luke. For some reason. Here's the thing, So Luke

488
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,000
can speak He's good buddies now for some reason with

489
00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:09,440
extended family. I can't believe that part out, like how

490
00:23:10,039 --> 00:23:13,079
he close with them, like knows their personality, like they've

491
00:23:13,079 --> 00:23:17,720
spent months and months together. But he also speaks their language.

492
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,880
Until you get to the cartoon where c or C

493
00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:24,920
three po says, well, you need me to go with

494
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,400
you so that I can translate what Chewbacca says. I'm like,

495
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,720
wait a minute, didn't we just see him talking in

496
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,880
the Chewbacca language.

497
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,319
Speaker 4: To no, Because it's what it is is, Luke is

498
00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:40,559
playing a prank on Chewi. He absolutely knows how to

499
00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:43,039
speak the Wookie language, it's just Chewy he won't talk to.

500
00:23:47,599 --> 00:23:47,839
Speaker 3: Well.

501
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 5: And it's funny that you mentioned, you know, that feeling

502
00:23:50,519 --> 00:23:52,839
of Okay, all the stars were in there, and I

503
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,720
get what you're saying. I mean that that's definitely like, wow,

504
00:23:55,759 --> 00:23:59,400
they they got those I mean, I kind of get

505
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,160
the feel when when watching this, it's almost like watching

506
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,640
a like an episode of Saturday Night Live right where

507
00:24:06,759 --> 00:24:08,920
they'll do a spoof on you know, they'll get the

508
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,240
guest in and then they'll do a spoof on whatever

509
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:16,039
movie that guest was in, where you know, the costumes are, oh,

510
00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:18,599
those look like the costumes from the movie, but they're

511
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,720
just a little bit more silly, or they'll have the

512
00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:23,240
action from the movie, but it's a little bit more silly.

513
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,880
And so that's kind of the lens that I kind

514
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,240
of fell into as I'm like, oh, dude, because i'd

515
00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:33,759
never seen this before, you know, I watched it just

516
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,359
within the last day or so, and I'm like I

517
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,640
did because I'm like, I'm like, well, I don't want

518
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,359
to go on the podcast and be like the guy

519
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,559
that reads the first chapter of the book and then

520
00:24:42,599 --> 00:24:44,880
tries to do the book discussion. So I like went

521
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,559
all the way through and the only thing that carried

522
00:24:46,599 --> 00:24:49,039
me through was just think of it like you would

523
00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:52,920
like sitting there watching like Saturday Night Live just not funny,

524
00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:54,279
And that's kind of what it was.

525
00:24:54,279 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: Was.

526
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,519
Speaker 5: It was the variety show, and it had that flavor

527
00:24:57,519 --> 00:25:01,599
of Saturday Night Live where they're falling into their routines,

528
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,799
but they're looking at the que cards right. The sets

529
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,119
are are kind of made with a little bit of

530
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,119
that campy thing that can't be feel but you're excited

531
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,519
because it's like, oh wow, Harrison Ford is hosting Saturday

532
00:25:14,599 --> 00:25:17,119
Night Live, tonight or Mark and now all three, so

533
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,119
that it was kind of a I kind of got

534
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,279
that vibe from it, And maybe that was just the

535
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,559
survival tactic of my brain. I'm not sure, but that

536
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,720
was kind of what I felt watching the watching this.

537
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,279
Speaker 4: And then you start watching and you realize it's mid

538
00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:30,440
eighties Saturday Night Live.

539
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:37,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Like let's let's just let's set the Wookies

540
00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:42,279
House on fire once this season is done.

541
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 3: Okay, I made a reference a few minutes ago. I

542
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,319
probably should explain it if you've never seen this holiday special.

543
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,440
It revolves around Mala, who is Chewbacca's wife, Itchy who

544
00:25:54,559 --> 00:26:00,000
is Chewbacca's dad, and Lumpy, who is Chewbacca's son. Actually

545
00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:02,079
have better Wookie names, but that's what they call him

546
00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:02,519
on the show.

547
00:26:02,839 --> 00:26:07,559
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, they explained it later. The thing about this. Okay,

548
00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:10,440
so one of the variety shows that was out at

549
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,359
the time was this thing that probably nobody remembers called

550
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,839
Shields and Yarnell, And so they got writers from Shields

551
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,240
and Yarnell because it was like a mime couple and

552
00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:22,720
so you know, hey, we're going to be doing writing

553
00:26:22,839 --> 00:26:27,200
for people for wookies that don't speak, so this seems

554
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,559
like the right writing folks. But that wasn't who they

555
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,279
ended up with. Ultimately, they ended up with Pat Proft,

556
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:38,559
who he wrote Hot Shots, Scary Movie, Real genius. And

557
00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:43,759
then Bruce flanch who he you know who he is, Yes,

558
00:26:43,799 --> 00:26:46,000
Hollywood Squares all the time. He was a part of

559
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,039
the Adam Sandler Johan thing, and he would write for

560
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:55,000
Comic Relief and the Oscar shows. So with those guys Intel,

561
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,119
you'd think, hey, this is going to be a well

562
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:57,759
written thing.

563
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 3: With Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford and George Luke is kind

564
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,960
of kind of doing the story.

565
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you get Art Carney, who is a comedic actor.

566
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,319
I really wish he had done this part as Ed Norton.

567
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:10,799
That would have been the best if he had. If

568
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:22,240
he had just been just that would have been fantastic. Hey,

569
00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:27,079
here's the thing. He his character was originally supposed to

570
00:27:27,079 --> 00:27:27,559
be Lando.

571
00:27:28,759 --> 00:27:29,799
Speaker 3: I heard this.

572
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: He was like he was, and they they obviously watered

573
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:36,039
it down, but his his character was supposed to be

574
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,400
not involved in like trinket trade, but like human trade.

575
00:27:39,799 --> 00:27:42,960
And so you can see the similarity of Lando's character,

576
00:27:43,079 --> 00:27:45,759
but you can also see the similarity and how he's

577
00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:49,759
backing down on Mala when he comes in like old

578
00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:50,920
Billy d Williams.

579
00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:53,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was I mean that there were I did.

580
00:27:54,079 --> 00:27:55,599
I'm sure we're probably gonna get more into this, but

581
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,839
good lord, there were some really awkward, really awkward scenes,

582
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,720
awkward comments, awkward looks. In fact, that the scene you're

583
00:28:04,759 --> 00:28:06,359
talking about when he comes in and he's talking to

584
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,680
Mala either on that first one with a view screen

585
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,839
when he's talking to her and he has like the

586
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,720
worst possible secret code ever? Was that what he's trying

587
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,880
to explain? That the yeah that you know, that shaggy

588
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,200
carpet that you ordered, I know what you're calling. It's

589
00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:24,079
it's on its way. It's gonna arrive at your house.

590
00:28:24,759 --> 00:28:26,759
You know, just there was this little woman like four

591
00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:28,519
planets away. She did it by herself. In fact, you

592
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:35,480
might say she did it by hand so low, which is.

593
00:28:35,559 --> 00:28:39,039
Speaker 2: Why Williams pronounces his name wrong and all.

594
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 4: Right, but yeah, I mean you've got those scenes where

595
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,519
there's just these awkward looks and kind of when he

596
00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:46,759
first came in, you know, in person, to the house,

597
00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:49,119
and the way he was looking at and talking to Mala.

598
00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:52,920
I'm like, dude, it's Chewbaca's wife. I mean, I know

599
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,000
he's not around. But then the first thought that jumped

600
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,359
in my head, this is how twisted it was. The

601
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:58,519
first thought that jumped in my head was Rizzo, the

602
00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:00,799
rat from Muppets, Take Manhattan and Go. Have you ever

603
00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:02,400
considered interspecies dating?

604
00:29:04,519 --> 00:29:07,599
Speaker 3: Hey, speaking of that, I mean, our party's all over, Mala,

605
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,720
Princess Lea's kind of got her hands all over Chewbacca

606
00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:14,839
through during the Red Robe ceremony.

607
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:22,799
Speaker 2: And obviously Itchy is very human females as well, since

608
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,480
Diane Carroll is just a projection of his own imagination,

609
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,079
should we just talk about that?

610
00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:33,039
Speaker 4: Well, it's I mean, it's never quite explained exactly what

611
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:36,720
Life Day celebrates, so and we don't see I don't

612
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,759
think we see the full ceremony. I'm starting to think

613
00:29:39,759 --> 00:29:42,200
that maybe like there's a password to get into Life

614
00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:45,240
Day that you know, only Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman

615
00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:48,559
know about. And everybody's wearing masks and.

616
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so Pat, I want to get your take. Okay,

617
00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:57,640
this is your first time to watch when you saw

618
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,559
the virtual reality that Art Carneie hooks up Itchy with.

619
00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh man, I'm sitting there thinking, well, I'm sinner,

620
00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:11,359
trying to remember, like cause the VR, the kid could

621
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,400
get into the VR too, right, and it Itchy was

622
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,400
the dad.

623
00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 6: It she's the dad.

624
00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:20,079
Speaker 5: It's like, well, first of all, like I could just

625
00:30:20,119 --> 00:30:22,799
think like they can't be going there, and then it

626
00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:25,799
was just like, no, I think they're going there. Pat,

627
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,480
Like I'm talking to myself and it's just like, no,

628
00:30:29,559 --> 00:30:32,880
they really don't. And then I'm like, well, dude, is

629
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,000
it the seventies? So, but I mean it was like, okay,

630
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:38,240
so I'm just imagining. Okay, We're at the family get

631
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:41,599
together and Dad needs to escape, so he's going to

632
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,400
take the VR in the back room, and all of

633
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,839
a sudden, this gale appears on screen, dancing out of

634
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,039
the mist. It was sort of like the little fairy creatures, right,

635
00:30:50,279 --> 00:30:53,480
it was sort of and then it's like all your

636
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:55,640
desires and all your this and all your dreams, and

637
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,319
I was kind of I was kind of half listening

638
00:30:57,319 --> 00:31:01,240
to this thing, and it was like, yeah, I mean,

639
00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:06,720
experience me, Matt, right, It's it's it's I'm gonna I'm

640
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,079
gonna quote. I'm gonna quote John's favorite movie. And I'm

641
00:31:09,119 --> 00:31:10,680
sorry John, because you know you're gonna want to go

642
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,440
off on the quotes there. But when he's like, good

643
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,319
morning Vietnam and they're doing the they're doing the reviews

644
00:31:16,319 --> 00:31:18,480
for when the lieutenant tries to take over the show,

645
00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:20,920
and it was like the review was and he looks

646
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,119
at it and he says, you stink eat a bag

647
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,680
of you know, such and such. Any guys, this review

648
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,960
is pretty explicit, sir, not too much gray area in

649
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,240
that one. As soon as they got to that scene

650
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,359
where all of a sudden, the gel's sitting there and

651
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,400
what are your deepest desires or urges? I'm just like,

652
00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:39,160
that's pretty explicit. There's not too much grey area. They're

653
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:41,880
they're going for what I think. And then I was like,

654
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:42,960
was this a TV?

655
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:43,359
Speaker 2: Like?

656
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 5: What the heck is going on? So that was my freaction.

657
00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:48,279
And then then I knew what was going on.

658
00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:51,119
Speaker 4: And I'm wondering how many I'm wondering how many parents

659
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,200
in nineteen seventy eight, I wonder how many parents are

660
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,200
watching this with their kids?

661
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,319
Speaker 1: Hey, kids, Star Wars gather around the TV. Let yeah?

662
00:31:57,359 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 4: And then this scene starts and the parents are like, no, play,

663
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:03,720
what is kids? Why don't you go go get daddy

664
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,720
another drink in the kitchen real quick? Let's leave the

665
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:08,160
wrong I.

666
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,079
Speaker 2: Have I have heard from multiple sources that it was

667
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:16,000
their intention, the writer's intention, to make this softcore, soft

668
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:20,519
core porn that they could get into a TV show

669
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:25,160
in prime time, And I've heard it from several places,

670
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,000
but I have not heard why why would you do that?

671
00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:32,720
What possible motivation could you have?

672
00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say cocaine.

673
00:32:36,359 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, it was.

674
00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:40,799
Speaker 4: It was one of the writers and producers was a

675
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,880
Mitzi Welch, I think had said. I think she was

676
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,440
the one quoted as saying, yeah, we just we wanted

677
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,079
to try to get in some softcore porn into the

678
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:50,000
as we want to see as far as we could

679
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,680
push it, like, what could we get into this holiday special?

680
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,279
And I'm sitting there thinking, I'm reading this quote. I'm

681
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:57,920
sitting there thinking, there are at least seven things wrong

682
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,640
with that sentence. How much of this can we get

683
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:07,240
into that holiday special? Yeah, okay, all right, based on

684
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:08,359
a kid's movie.

685
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:11,519
Speaker 3: But the funny thing is is I would say that

686
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:13,960
that's not the worst thing about the special for me.

687
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,839
The nine and a half minutes of Wookies talking with

688
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:18,920
no subtitles.

689
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, right, which I can understand somebody says, no, listen,

690
00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:28,640
Chewbacca doesn't have subtitles, so the Wookie talk doesn't have subtitles. Well, yeah,

691
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,039
that's great, But Chewbacca always had someone with him who

692
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:34,079
could respond in such a way that you knew what

693
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,400
he said. Nine and a half minutes of them running

694
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,599
around the house, and here's the thing, here's what we

695
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,720
found out this thing was supposed to only be an

696
00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:47,799
hour long, but when the when advertisers found out it

697
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,440
was coming out, there were so many people begging to

698
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,279
be on board, they decided to stretch it to basically

699
00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:58,200
a two hour special. And that's why you have so

700
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,319
much time that you're just at the screen going what,

701
00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:06,519
what in the world? Why would anybody want to watch this?

702
00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:09,039
Who thought this was a good idea?

703
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 4: And I remember reading that they told George Lucas at

704
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,920
the time that because it was his idea to focus

705
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,559
it around Chewbacca's family, And I remember reading something somewhere

706
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:23,639
that they're like, Okay, George, this Wookie's talking for extended periods.

707
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,480
It's not going to work. It's like, yes, Chewbacca can

708
00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:30,079
do it without without subtitles, but that's because Chewbacca is

709
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:33,159
not standing there giving like Mark Anthony's speech from Julius Caesar.

710
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,480
You know, he's not. It's not a soliloquy. It's it's

711
00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:39,679
he talks and Han responds or somebody else or C

712
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,639
three po translates or And from my understanding, like that

713
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,800
was that was almost the extent of George Lucas's participation

714
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,480
was to basically say okay, fine do this thing, and hey,

715
00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:53,639
I think you should do it using Chewbacca's family as

716
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:56,280
the focal point. And that's just yeah, it's and it's

717
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,440
it's painful. It's painful in it, and it bothered me

718
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:02,079
so much when I read. I was like, when I

719
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:03,920
watched this for the first time, I didn't really look

720
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,760
up to see who, like the producers were, and the

721
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,599
and the costume design and everything else. And then when

722
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:12,159
I did finally look that up, and I was like, good,

723
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,920
these Wookie costumes. They look terrible, like Itchy just looks

724
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,239
like Archie Bunker version of Chewbacca. And the sounds are

725
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,159
just terrible in this. I mean it sounds lumpy every

726
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:25,079
once in a while, sounds like you know when when

727
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:27,519
et is kind of chittering and running around and doing

728
00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:28,199
that kind of stuff.

729
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: And then I looked it up and it's.

730
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 4: It's Stan Winston did the creature designs, and it was

731
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,119
Ben Burt did the sound, you know from the Star

732
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:36,800
Wars movies.

733
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there going what happened to you guys?

734
00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

735
00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: Why did you let it?

736
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,039
Speaker 3: Was?

737
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:43,039
Speaker 1: It? Was it the well?

738
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:48,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there is the how doing their nose

739
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:49,159
during every commercial break.

740
00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.

741
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,679
Speaker 2: So so George Lucas had a little bit of involvement

742
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,199
with it. Before he had he had come, he'd watched

743
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,280
dailies and the original director was actually a guy that

744
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,000
went to USC with him. It was a guy named

745
00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:10,440
David A. Comba, And after like two days of shooting

746
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,639
he was like, I can't forget this crap. Yeah, this

747
00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:16,079
is terrible. I can't get along with the producers, and

748
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:19,039
so they brought in this guy named Steve Binder. Now

749
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:22,800
Steve Binder had done a couple of really big like

750
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,679
he did the Petula Clark TV special which was in

751
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,559
nineteen sixty eight, which was a huge deal because it

752
00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:32,400
was like she was singing a duet with Harry Belafonte

753
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,639
and touches his arm. It's part of the singing.

754
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,119
Speaker 3: Well.

755
00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: In nineteen sixty eight, apparently that was a huge deal

756
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,679
and people were like executives were like, we can't show

757
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,360
this in the South. People will lose their minds. A

758
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,360
white woman touched in the arm of a black man,

759
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,000
and basically they did it anyway, and so it was

760
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,199
a bit. He was a big part of that, and

761
00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:53,679
then he was also part of the Elvis Presley sixty

762
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,920
eight comeback special, which was huge because nobody knew who

763
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,519
the crap I mean, I said, didn't recognize Elvis anymore.

764
00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:03,679
Sixty eight he had lost all his fame and that

765
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,119
really was a big comeback special for him. But the

766
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:11,079
only information that he got from George Lucas was the

767
00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:11,760
Wookie Bible.

768
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: That's it.

769
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,079
Speaker 2: That's all he had. That's just just the details of

770
00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:19,000
how they should look and behave, and that's all he's

771
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:19,519
got going for.

772
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,519
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean there's a lot of talent involved in

773
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:22,920
this show.

774
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,159
Speaker 2: It just didn't come together.

775
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,079
Speaker 3: There was no real oversight.

776
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, George Lucas, I I think you guys missed the

777
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:31,320
quality acting with the eyes, like you knew what she

778
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,000
was feeling by the long, slow close up that they

779
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,119
held on her face for so long, like she really

780
00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:39,840
missed and loved Chewbacca and she was she did you.

781
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:40,519
Speaker 1: Look at that picture.

782
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:42,119
Speaker 2: I don't know why you need subtitles for that.

783
00:37:42,199 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 6: I mean, anybody who's out there you know they love,

784
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,400
can identify, and I think that's what they're making at

785
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:53,400
As far as as far as John saying with the costumes, immediately,

786
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,199
I did watch this with my seventeen year old son,

787
00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:56,960
which was hilarious because it was kind of like fun.

788
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,760
He was excited about it first because I started watching

789
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,079
it and then I said I brought it up and

790
00:38:03,079 --> 00:38:04,639
he's like, oh really, there was a special sum we

791
00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:06,239
started watching. I said, yeah, you're gonna sit down, you're

792
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,039
gonna watch this. We start watching it literally on the

793
00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:08,760
TV because.

794
00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:10,519
Speaker 2: We had pulled up through Apple TV or whatever.

795
00:38:10,639 --> 00:38:12,199
Speaker 6: The quality looked really good, so we might have had

796
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,920
the version that you had, but looked like Doctor SaaS

797
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,719
from the Planet of the Apes that was like lumpy,

798
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,239
like a young Doctor SaaS. And then if anybody's ever

799
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,039
seen the Nairobi Trio from uh, what's his name?

800
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 3: The TV GT.

801
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,679
Speaker 6: Ernie Kovacs, that's what it'sy remind him of you, You said,

802
00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:30,719
a cross between kind of Archie Bunker. But if you

803
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,119
look at the costumes, if you just type in Nairobi Trio,

804
00:38:34,039 --> 00:38:35,679
black and white pictures might not look as good, but

805
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,320
that mask, just his face and his lip, it just

806
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,800
looked absolutely horrible.

807
00:38:40,159 --> 00:38:44,039
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was as wookies age their bottom lip grows.

808
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,800
I like pulled up over.

809
00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:51,119
Speaker 5: It, like, yeah, yeah, you know what, I'm sorry. I

810
00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:54,800
just have a quick question. You know, Dennis, you I'm curious.

811
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,559
You know some of the stuff we were just talking about.

812
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,039
You remember seeing this, and I guess I'm curious, like,

813
00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:03,039
did at any point when you were watching this, did

814
00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:06,280
you get like this isn't like as a kid, this

815
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,000
isn't good, or like that scene where the Mystic Lady

816
00:39:10,039 --> 00:39:12,599
appeared out of the VR did that get awkward for you?

817
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,599
And then flipping forward when you watch this with Hunter,

818
00:39:16,159 --> 00:39:18,199
did you bump on any of those things like, oh,

819
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,280
this is not going the direction that I want to like,

820
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,360
If you don't mind me asking, I'm just curious.

821
00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:23,159
Speaker 2: Oh that's fine.

822
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm honestly like I started watching it prior,

823
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,599
like a couple days ago, like a few days ago

824
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,760
on my own, and then when it got to the

825
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,239
weird bits and pieces, I was just like, whoa this?

826
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,239
I like, I'm not but I still for the podcast.

827
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,079
I need to watch the thing. I was like, all right,

828
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,000
So it was.

829
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:39,639
Speaker 1: Put on hold.

830
00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 6: And then when Hunters sitting there watching it my son,

831
00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:44,440
it was we're eating kind of dinner and watching this

832
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,639
and as it's going is just looking at his reactions.

833
00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:49,639
I mean, I knew what the expect already like a

834
00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:51,199
lot of it because I was like, He's like, no,

835
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,960
this is weird, Like it gets weird, and it was

836
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,360
getting weirder and weirder. I will be honest, I can't

837
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,480
see that I saw the whole entire version this time,

838
00:39:57,519 --> 00:40:00,159
because as this went on to keep him watching, I

839
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:02,280
had to fast forward through any of the musical numbers

840
00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:04,880
get the head a little bit. I was like, all right,

841
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,800
people are singing and dancing, skip ahead a little bit.

842
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,639
All right, we're back with what that number is done.

843
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,400
And then we go into the So anytime the kind

844
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,199
of kicked into a musical number, we kind of like

845
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,599
we skipped a little bit ahead. But I did get

846
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:17,119
enough of the weird you know that weird vibe too,

847
00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:20,559
but okay, yeah, and then the b Arthur song just yeah,

848
00:40:20,559 --> 00:40:22,039
I was just like, once we're out of that, that

849
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:25,239
felt like a total Muppet song skit, Like I don't know.

850
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,079
That was bizarre and a little creepy. With uh, Harvey

851
00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:30,159
Corman coming in. I'm like, they really got Harvey Corman

852
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:31,840
to like play as many parts as they could in

853
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,760
this they like, I think he was the bulk of

854
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,119
that million dollar budget there.

855
00:40:35,039 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: And that's what.

856
00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: He was. He was on Just for who anybody who

857
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,480
doesn't know Harvey Corman was on the Carrolbournett Show, which

858
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:47,559
was one of those variety shows, and he was he was.

859
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:50,119
Speaker 3: The fourth funniest person on that show.

860
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: Out of a cast of five or six.

861
00:40:51,559 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

862
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was good in blazing saddles. Yeah, but my

863
00:40:56,679 --> 00:40:58,440
what I'd heard is he was kind of a prima

864
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,480
donna on that show, and so this was probably a Hey,

865
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:05,519
I'm in the New Star Wars special, Hahn pouring drinks

866
00:41:05,519 --> 00:41:08,800
from the top of my head and be a forearmed cook.

867
00:41:09,079 --> 00:41:11,519
Speaker 6: One of the funny one of the funny things that

868
00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:14,119
we were saying, Like, as we're watching it, my son's like, so,

869
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,239
is this the first one? Is this the first one?

870
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,280
Like he was like thinking, was this before the And

871
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,599
I go, what do you mean the first one? He goes,

872
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,599
He goes, you know, the one was this before? Did

873
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:23,960
this come before New Hope? And I'm like, this was

874
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,920
the first one. If this was the first one, there

875
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,039
wouldn't be a second one.

876
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, right right, absolutely.

877
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 6: There's no way anybody would have I think people I

878
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,400
will say that I would be interesting to see how

879
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,519
many people did stick with it. For the whole time,

880
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:38,920
because when you said that a lot of people would

881
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,880
have clicked off. I actually don't think so, because there's

882
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,280
enough clips of like the live action, and then when

883
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,360
you see Luke and you're you're just it kind of

884
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,480
keeps you just enough to where you're about to turn

885
00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:50,360
it off. But you're hoping that this is going to

886
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,519
get better and it's going to make sense. They give

887
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:54,800
you enough of a little bit of Oh, Han solos

888
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,280
in it, so he hasn't we haven't seen him, or

889
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,239
you know, like you're thinking someone else is gonna come

890
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,679
in and make this better and it's all of a

891
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:02,159
sudden gonna take off, Like that's what you kind of

892
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:02,800
keep thinking.

893
00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:06,079
Speaker 4: Well, and you say, you say, Han Solo is in it,

894
00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:09,199
But every time I saw Harrison Ford on screen, I

895
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,719
looked at his face, I'm like, I know that look.

896
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,559
I know that's the look my thirteen year old has

897
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:16,000
when we have to sit on the couch and do

898
00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:19,360
the family zoom once a week, people be there. That's

899
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,199
what that look is.

900
00:42:20,559 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 6: I was thinking, you know how you want to be

901
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,760
killed off? I think this is the reason you wanted

902
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:24,719
to be character.

903
00:42:26,039 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: Like this.

904
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 6: Probably did it like at this point.

905
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:30,559
Speaker 1: Look, look, George, I'm George.

906
00:42:30,559 --> 00:42:33,559
Speaker 4: I'm really excited about the Empire strikes back.

907
00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, after the Holiday special, I need you to

908
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:37,960
kill my character.

909
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,599
Speaker 8: All right, everybody that does it for this part. We're

910
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:48,960
going to be back tomorrow with part two of the

911
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,320
Star Wars Holiday Special. Be sure and go subscribe to

912
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:58,039
the thirty something Movie podcast and also of course subscribe

913
00:42:58,079 --> 00:42:59,079
to our podcast.

914
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,639
Speaker 2: We will see you, Mark,