WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:05.480 It's night Side with Dan Ray WBZ Costs Radio. 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:08.400 All right, our number two coming up here on a 3 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:13.080 Friday night. It is Friday night, the twenty seventh of September. 4 00:00:14.119 --> 00:00:16.440 The year is moving by much too quickly. I think 5 00:00:16.480 --> 00:00:18.320 we can all agree upon that. But we're supposed to 6 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:21.239 have a nice weather weekend, so that's a plus, that's 7 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:23.199 for sure. We have to enjoy all of these fall 8 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:27.039 weekends because fall weekends turn into winter weekends. And winter 9 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:29.640 weekends in New England wonderful for the skiers, but for 10 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:32.399 lots of us who are city bound, you got to 11 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:37.000 deal with the consequences of a snowy weekend. It can 12 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:39.119 be tough. You kind of spend a lot of time inside. 13 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:43.320 But we are moving into a conversation which I think 14 00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:49.679 is an interesting conversation, and it is brought into focus 15 00:00:49.719 --> 00:00:54.880 for us by a visit that the President of Ukraine, 16 00:00:55.119 --> 00:00:59.799 Voladimir Zelensky made to the United States. He came here, 17 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:04.760 come here several times, as he's continued, to the surprise 18 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:09.040 of many people, fight for two and a half years 19 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:14.040 with Russia, and it actually would seem to a lot 20 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:17.760 of us that maybe Russia is back on their heels 21 00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:20.519 at this point, for those of you who haven't followed 22 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:26.879 it closely, the Ukrainian troops have actually made incursions into Russia. 23 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:31.840 There have also been some missiles fired by Ukraine at 24 00:01:31.879 --> 00:01:37.359 targets inside Russia. Russia continues to hold some territory on 25 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:43.719 the east of Ukraine which Russia initially invaded. That line 26 00:01:43.719 --> 00:01:47.439 of demarcation moves back and forth, and for a while 27 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:51.920 now it would appear that well they've sort of reached 28 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:57.000 the stalemate, although although Ukrainian troops have in the last 29 00:01:57.040 --> 00:02:02.359 few weeks actually crossed the border into Russia. So it's 30 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:06.239 not a war that we are following as closely as 31 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:08.479 we did. The thing that I think we should be 32 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:12.240 able to agree upon is that Ukraine has done much 33 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:16.680 better than maybe many people expected. Many people expected that 34 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:22.840 the Russian military would roll right into Ukraine. So yesterday 35 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:28.919 Vice President Harris talked held a joint I don't say 36 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:31.280 it was a joint news conferences, sort of a joint 37 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:36.360 appearance with the President of Ukraine, and just to give 38 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:39.280 you a sense of what the Vice President has been saying. 39 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:43.719 Of course, the Biden administration has been very supportive of Ukraine. 40 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:46.639 They have tried to keep a leash on Ukraine, meaning 41 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:52.319 they have given them weaponry at various points. That always 42 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:56.599 Ukraine has asked for more weaponry and more advanced weaponry 43 00:02:56.639 --> 00:02:59.280 than the Biden Harris administration has been willing to give. 44 00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:05.159 But at this point Ukraine has actually gone on the offensive. 45 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:10.599 So this is the Vice president yesterday with President Zelenski. 46 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:13.159 This Vice President cut number twenty please Rob. 47 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:18.520 We also know that other would be aggressors around the 48 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:23.439 world are watching to see what happens in Ukraine. If 49 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:28.960 Putin is allowed to win, they will become embolden. And 50 00:03:29.080 --> 00:03:33.439 history reminds us, and history is so clear in reminding 51 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:38.680 us the United States cannot and should not isolate ourselves 52 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:43.960 from the rest of the world. Isolation is not insolation. 53 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:50.360 Okay, That I think is the tone of the Biden administration. 54 00:03:50.439 --> 00:03:53.639 And then one other SoundBite from the Vice president. This 55 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:56.159 is cut number twenty c Rob, twenty C. 56 00:03:57.400 --> 00:04:02.080 However, in candor to share with you, mister President, there 57 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:06.240 are some in my country who would instead force Ukraine 58 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:10.919 to give up large parts of its sovereign territory, who 59 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:17.360 would demand that Ukraine accept neutrality and would require Ukraine 60 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:25.079 to forego security relationships with other nations. These proposals are 61 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:29.959 the same of those of Putin, and let us be clear, 62 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:36.439 they are not proposals for peace. Instead, they are proposals 63 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:41.519 for surrender, which is dangerous and unacceptable. 64 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:48.680 Okay, let's hear from former President Trump. He held sort 65 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:51.920 of a joint event, a meeting a Trump Tower in 66 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:57.040 New York City today with President Zelensky. I don't believe 67 00:04:57.079 --> 00:05:01.439 that President Trump had been in Lensky's president or have 68 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:07.439 been with Zelensky for above five years. The Biden administration 69 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:13.360 arguably has been consistently supportive of Ukraine, again with limitations, 70 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:19.040 but this is President Trump today. Obviously Vice President Harris 71 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:24.680 was referring to Donald Trump because Trump is talking about well, 72 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:26.879 let's hear what he has to say. Got thirty six, Rob. 73 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:29.879 This is a war that should have never happened. 74 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:32.040 In another meeting in the near future between. 75 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:34.480 You could very well happen. But I think the President 76 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:37.560 said it the best. This is a war that should 77 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:41.839 have never happened. It should have never happened, and it 78 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:42.879 wouldn't have happened. 79 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:44.240 It's a shame. 80 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:47.040 But this is a war that should have never happened, 81 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:49.600 and we'll get it solved. 82 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:53.439 It's a complicated puzzle, very complicated puzzle. But we'll get 83 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:57.399 it solved and people get on with their lives. Too 84 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:01.759 many people dead, too many beautiful cities. I've seen those 85 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:05.240 cities are so beautiful, and that you know for I 86 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:07.240 don't know how you can ever rebuild them the way 87 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:07.639 they were. 88 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:13.160 It's not possible, by the way, to us will it's it's. 89 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:17.040 A beautiful country, beautiful weather, beautiful, beautiful everything. 90 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:18.480 But we have to get this uplis. 91 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:21.240 But it's a war, and the president away is this 92 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:23.800 is a war that should have never happened. Okay, thank 93 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:25.439 you very much, so much, thank. 94 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:29.240 You very much. So Obviously President Trump is emphasizing that 95 00:06:29.319 --> 00:06:31.839 it would not have happened if he had been elected 96 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:37.279 in twenty twenty. Zelensky is doing what Zelensky needs to do, 97 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:41.519 and that is to meet with both of the presidential candidates. 98 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:43.920 One of them will be the next president will be 99 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:46.560 the forty seventh president of the United States, either Vice 100 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:50.519 President Harris or former President Trump. One final quick comment 101 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:55.600 from Donald Trump, because obviously he is talking about his 102 00:06:55.720 --> 00:07:00.759 ability to bring Zelinski and Putin to get other to 103 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:03.120 end the war. That is what he's talking about. Cut 104 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:03.959 thirty seven run. 105 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:06.879 They also have a very good relationship, as you know, 106 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:10.079 with President Putin, and I think if we win, I 107 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:11.959 think we're going to get it resolved very quickly. 108 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:18.879 I really think we're going to get it. 109 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:22.360 Yeah, but you know, it takes two to tango, you know, And. 110 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:26.399 So take take what you want from that. Again, the 111 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:29.959 audio not exactly clear what what Zilensky was saying, but 112 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:36.800 that's the setup. That's the setup. Now a little context. 113 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:42.160 Putin is very upset, very upset with the fact that 114 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:49.199 Ukraine has gotten weaponry from the United States, which has 115 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:57.439 allowed Ukraine to fire missiles inside the inside Russia. And 116 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:02.519 this is a comment that made recently, might even be 117 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:06.639 as recent as yesterday. This is through a translator, but 118 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:09.480 you'll understand what he said. This is cut number twenty one. 119 00:08:10.319 --> 00:08:13.920 The updated version of the document proposes that aggression against 120 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:17.120 Russia by any non nuclear weapons state, but with the 121 00:08:17.199 --> 00:08:21.000 participation or support of a nuclear weapons state, should be 122 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:24.199 regarded as a joint attack on the Russian Federation. The 123 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:27.720 conditions for Russia's transition to the use of nuclear weapons 124 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:31.639 are also clearly defined. We will consider such a possibility 125 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:35.480 as soon as we receive reliable information about a massive 126 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:39.039 launch of aerospace attack means and their crossing of our 127 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:43.840 state border, meaning strategic or tactical aircraft, cruise missiles, drones, 128 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:52.480 hypersonic missiles, and other aircraft. We reserve the right to 129 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:55.720 use nuclear weapons in the event of aggression against Russia 130 00:08:55.759 --> 00:08:58.919 and Belarus as a member of the Union State. All 131 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:02.240 these issues have been agreed upon with the Belarusian side 132 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:05.399 and with the President of Belarus. This includes cases when 133 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:09.080 the enemy using conventional weapons poses a critical threat to 134 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:09.879 our sovereignty. 135 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:15.240 Well, that's pretty obvious. That's pretty obvious. Is he threatening? 136 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:18.240 He's threatening, But will he follow through on that threat 137 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:24.399 or is he just threatening? That's for you to decide, 138 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:28.840 wish of the two candidates, Vice President Harris a former 139 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:32.559 President Trump, would you if that is that is your 140 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:35.600 most important issue? And it might not be, But on 141 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:38.799 that issue, which of these candidates do you have more 142 00:09:38.840 --> 00:09:43.080 confidence in? The vice president or the former president six 143 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:45.159 seven two five four ten. We're going to do a 144 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:47.240 lot of this in the next few weeks. I guarantee 145 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:50.080 you we'll try to break down issues and make you think. 146 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:51.720 And by the way, I will also tell you that 147 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:55.039 later on tonight at eleven o'clock we will conduct our 148 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:58.000 it's actually our seventh end of the month poll. We 149 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:03.240 started in March, April, May, June, July, August, and now September. 150 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:05.720 We will ask you in the twentieth hour of the 151 00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:09.039 week to just tell us who would you be voting 152 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:14.320 for if the election were held today. The principles have changed. 153 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:18.679 We started off with President Biden, former President Trump, and 154 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:23.480 Robert F. Kennedy Junior. That has all changed. Robert F. 155 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:29.080 Kennedy Junior is no longer in play and Joe Biden 156 00:10:29.159 --> 00:10:32.559 has withdrawn as the Democratic nominee. So it'll be an interesting, 157 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:37.679 a clean one on one tonight during the eleven o'clock hour. 158 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:43.600 But I want to focus on Ukraine. Which candidate do 159 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:46.840 you whatever you see as the result. I mean you 160 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:50.960 might look and say you want peace quickly, or you 161 00:10:51.080 --> 00:10:53.919 might say, hey, we want Ukraine to do what it 162 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:57.679 has to do. It doesn't matter what your focus is. 163 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:00.799 Which candidate do you have more confidence? It's in you 164 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:04.519 have only two. You got to choose one six, one, seven, two, four, 165 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:06.759 ten thirty, six, one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. 166 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:10.200 We will talk about this until nine until ten and 167 00:11:10.279 --> 00:11:14.759 my intention unless you want to talk about it long 168 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:16.679 and my intention is to talk about what's going on 169 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:22.200 in the Middle East. Today, Prime Minister Benjamin Nett Yahoo 170 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:27.840 gave a very very compelling speech. I'll try to use 171 00:11:27.879 --> 00:11:30.720 a word that is a neutral word. A compelling speech 172 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:34.639 at the United Nations today, and shortly after that speech 173 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:39.840 Israel hit what they believe is the headquarters of Hespola 174 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:43.720 and underground headquarters in the southern part of Beirut, which 175 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:48.240 may have killed the leader of Hespolah in the Middle 176 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:52.240 East tonight is it's getting a little hotter over there 177 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:54.159 tonight back on night Side after this. 178 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:58.799 Now back to Dan ray Mine from the Window World. 179 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:01.759 Night Side Studios WBZ News Radio. 180 00:12:02.519 --> 00:12:04.559 So what I'm asking you to do tonight is to look 181 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:08.960 at one issue, and that is Ukraine. And you may 182 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:15.200 support one of the candidates and decide that they're the 183 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:19.759 best choice on every issue. Or you may have some 184 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:22.480 candidates that you like on this issue, some candidates you like, 185 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:24.799 a candidate you like on the other issue. It does 186 00:12:25.000 --> 00:12:27.480 it doesn't matter. You can be a diet in the world. 187 00:12:27.639 --> 00:12:30.159 Harris supporter died in the wild Trump supporter. If they 188 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:34.080 if you support them, tell us why. And if you 189 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:37.320 happen to disagree with your candidate on this issue or 190 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:41.960 feel maybe the other candidate position is more to your liking. 191 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:45.240 That'll be interesting too, just trying to figure out one 192 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:48.080 of the most important issues and how people feel about it. 193 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:50.759 So that's what we're doing. We'll do this for about 194 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:52.960 an hour. The only line open right now is A 195 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:56.399 six one seven. Going to start it off with Rashid 196 00:12:56.480 --> 00:12:59.600 and Torchester. Rashid, who do you think would do a 197 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:02.000 better job in terms of Ukraine? 198 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:06.080 Well, I think that President Trump would. One of the 199 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:08.200 reasons why I'm drawn to President Trump is because I 200 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:10.639 am an isolationist. I don't believe that America should get 201 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:12.960 in the affairs of other nations. And I think that 202 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:16.960 it's a pretty simple fix, and it's a simple fix 203 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:19.519 that President Trump would be capable of. And we tell 204 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:22.679 both sides. We tell Zelenski there will be no more 205 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:26.600 welfare from the United States of America to continuelessly fund 206 00:13:27.159 --> 00:13:30.080 your endless war for Russia. And we'll tell Putin that 207 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:33.600 if he does doesn't stop, will knew him? Pretty simple stuff. 208 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:38.000 I don't know you want to tell you would really 209 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:41.679 tell tell Putin that, what do you think President. 210 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:44.639 Well Trump was telling Putin through Pompeo that hey, if 211 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:47.720 you do something crazy, we're gonna drop everything we have 212 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:51.840 on you. That from will turn Saint Petersburg into a 213 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:55.159 pocket lot. And he was threatening Putin with with the 214 00:13:55.240 --> 00:14:00.080 bombers we have in Germany to completely obliterate him if 215 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:03.600 he makes any weird moves into Ukraine. But also President 216 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:09.639 Trump respected the Treaty of Budapest, he respected the borders, 217 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:12.080 and he did not have an interest when I think 218 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:16.360 when he had a press conference with Lensky, I think 219 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:18.519 five years ago, he was like, you know, we would 220 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:20.960 like if you would figure out your issues with President Pulin. 221 00:14:21.320 --> 00:14:23.440 And I think that when we look at the Democrats, 222 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:27.840 especially President Fighting and President Obama, there's always been some 223 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:33.759 level of regime change in Russia, whether they're throwing a coup, 224 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:37.919 which they did in twenty fourteen, I believe to get 225 00:14:38.039 --> 00:14:40.679 rid of their democratically elected president to put in somebody 226 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:43.039 that's anti Russia. Like, let the people Ukraine decide what 227 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:45.200 they want to do. If they want to be neutral, wonderful. 228 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:47.480 If they want to be pro America, great, If they 229 00:14:47.480 --> 00:14:50.840 want to be pro Russia, fine, But I have to 230 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:51.159 ask you. 231 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:55.279 This question, why do you think Ronald Reagan would come 232 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:58.200 down on this situation? Do you think he would come 233 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:02.320 down closer to Trump's position, closer to Harris is Biden's position. 234 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:05.960 Well, I'm not the biggest fan of Ronald Reagan, but 235 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:08.080 Ronald Reagan was a neo Khan, so I think that 236 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:11.360 he would be on the side of President Biden. I mean, 237 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:13.120 we've seen that ron Contra affair. 238 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:18.879 An honest answer, that's that's I know that's that's an 239 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:21.240 honest answer. I think you're right. I think that you've 240 00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:24.879 seen Russia or the Soviet Union as a as a 241 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:26.559 danger to the to the free world. 242 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:29.919 But you know, Dan, I think that we need to 243 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:34.240 mature past this neo Khan globalist mindset and we need 244 00:15:34.279 --> 00:15:37.039 to look at it like this. I think that Russia, 245 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:40.519 I'm not a fan of Pudin. I'm not a pro 246 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:43.000 Russian person, but I think it's better for us to 247 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:45.399 be friends with them than enemies, because look at what 248 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:49.279 has happened with US isolating Russia. They are now becoming 249 00:15:49.320 --> 00:15:52.480 allied with China. So it's like we have more in 250 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:56.519 common with Russia. I think the idea of NATO is ridiculous. 251 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:59.399 I think that what's the point of having in alliance 252 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:02.240 that we're all on Plushian energy. This is alliance to 253 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:06.759 protect against Russia. They don't pay their bills and they 254 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:09.639 rely on Russian energy. How about we all work together, 255 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:14.000 and how about we rebuild a relationship with Russia and 256 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:17.679 have a peaceful future for our children, and we could 257 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:20.720 just focus solely on China and what's happening in the 258 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:21.240 Middle League. 259 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:27.519 I got you down clearly, as you think that the 260 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:31.559 the the Trump policies are policies that that you you 261 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:34.440 support in terms of Ukraine. That's fair. That's fair. I 262 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:40.519 appreciate it. Good good argument, Thanks Rashid. Let's keep rolling here. 263 00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:44.639 Let me go to Patrick don in DC and Washington. Patrick, 264 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:48.399 which of these two candidates are you more comfortable with 265 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:51.399 just in terms of just Ukraine? 266 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:55.039 Just just absolutely just Ukraine. And then I don't want 267 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:59.960 to say anything negative against our American daughters, the vice president, 268 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:06.000 but I'm going to fully agree with President Trump when 269 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:08.720 he states if this war should never happened, and it 270 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:11.640 would not have happened if he was in the old office. 271 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:16.559 I also believe that he understands his adversary, mister Putin, 272 00:17:16.680 --> 00:17:19.640 is not his friend, mister Putin is his adversary, and 273 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:23.240 mister Trump won't speak out both sides of his mouth. 274 00:17:23.960 --> 00:17:27.200 And as we look at history and understand what mister 275 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:32.160 Putin is, we must understand the real politic in this. 276 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:35.839 I believe miss Harris is just not fit into the 277 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:39.440 puzzle of the real politic, and the real politic behind 278 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:42.960 this is if you look at our mediate history and 279 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:47.799 how the invasions of Ukraine began. Please excuse me, and 280 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:50.240 I'm not here to offend anybody, and you cut me 281 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:53.359 off as they stop right there, Patrick, But the white 282 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:57.240 Russian did not listen to the black American male. He 283 00:17:57.440 --> 00:17:59.759 is definitely not going to listen to the black American 284 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:04.400 mals under no circumstances. And good luck and anybody calling to. 285 00:18:04.519 --> 00:18:09.000 Okay, well, so okay, we're getting into an area. I'm 286 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:11.319 not going to cut you off. But why do you 287 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:15.720 think race would have anything to do with this? It 288 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:19.200 would seem to me that the military that Putin would 289 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:22.920 fear would be the American military, irrespective of who the 290 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:25.599 president was, or is or will. 291 00:18:25.400 --> 00:18:29.440 Be, because he sees how they think and he's going 292 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:36.640 to outthink them and will well, I'm sorry some of 293 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:39.039 some of the people who have been elected in the 294 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:40.920 American that we have elected. 295 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:42.720 Okay, so I think what you're saying. I hope what 296 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:45.839 you're saying is that that that Putin may look at 297 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:49.240 the Democrats, some of the Democrats as an easier mark. 298 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:50.519 Is that what you're saying. 299 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:54.480 Correct, because he understands that softness in them that says. 300 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:58.640 Nothing that's got nothing to do with race. I mean, 301 00:18:58.640 --> 00:19:02.880 if if Bernie Sanders was president or Elizabeth Warren was president, 302 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:05.480 I don't think he would be looking at it from 303 00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:07.000 a racial point of view. I think he'd be looking 304 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:10.279 at it from a well this there's another Democrat who 305 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:15.480 uh who has been stung by American involvement in Vietnam 306 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:18.279 and other places around the world, and I think that's 307 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:20.680 probably what his mindset might be. I can't agree with 308 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:21.160 you on that. 309 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:24.480 I will I will, I will learn from you tonight, 310 00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:25.359 but I you know. 311 00:19:25.559 --> 00:19:28.319 I will look at my perspective of what real politics 312 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:31.480 can be because those people over there have a backbone 313 00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:33.799 of will that we sometimes have lost. 314 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:39.920 Well. Biden Biden has has has has joined Ukraine here 315 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:43.000 for two and a half years. I was surprised that 316 00:19:43.160 --> 00:19:46.960 Ukraine was able to survive the Russian onslaught, were you not? 317 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:52.640 Uh well, yes, and no. I think it should have 318 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:55.920 been calculated that it should not have happened. As soon 319 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:58.079 as you saw him building his stuff up on the border, 320 00:19:58.119 --> 00:20:01.160 he should have been cut off. I mean, if I 321 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:03.079 don't disagree with that. 322 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:04.920 By the way, that's the first point that you've made 323 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:08.119 that I've I would agree with. I think that that 324 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:13.039 once you, once uh something gets set in motion, it's 325 00:20:13.119 --> 00:20:15.480 tough to turn it around. It'll be tough for Putin 326 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:18.720 to withdraw without being able to claim some sort of 327 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:20.839 a victory. Ferrick or otherwise. 328 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:24.319 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's serious. 329 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:28.240 It's just it's a serious situation. Uh just I just 330 00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:32.880 believe that the the redhead will give him the evil 331 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:33.960 eye and he'll back down. 332 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:37.000 All right, we'll see, Uh I got you down, then 333 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:39.319 you you for different kind of a different reason, but 334 00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:43.000 similar reason in many respects. You would receive him on 335 00:20:43.039 --> 00:20:46.119 the same page. Thanks. Thanks Patrick, I enjoyed the car. 336 00:20:46.519 --> 00:20:48.400 We're gonna come back. The only line we have opened 337 00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:50.920 right now is the one that Patrick is just vacating 338 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:54.839 six ten thirty. Everything else is full. We're coming up 339 00:20:54.839 --> 00:20:58.359 with Gary. We'll also have Susan and Cambridge. We got 340 00:20:58.440 --> 00:21:01.920 Rick in Pennsylvania, Jerry Done and Raynham and we get 341 00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:04.920 room for you at six point seven two five. Well, 342 00:21:05.119 --> 00:21:06.680 just filled. We'll be back right after this. 343 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:13.000 You're on Night Side with on Boston's news radio. 344 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:16.000 Okay, so we're basically asking you a question through the 345 00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:21.480 lens of Ukraine. Which presidential candidate do you have more 346 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:25.920 confidence in? Vice President Harris a former President Trump. Let 347 00:21:25.960 --> 00:21:28.400 me go to Gary and Northbridge. Gary, you next on Nightside. 348 00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:28.880 Go right ahead. 349 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:32.559 Hey, Dan, you've been I've been doing just great. 350 00:21:32.559 --> 00:21:35.160 Gary, Thanks for checking back. What's what's your take on 351 00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:37.319 this topic. I we're going to do this on a 352 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:39.759 lot of topics, by the way, and in the next 353 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:42.599 few weeks, we're coming up on about five weeks that 354 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:44.599 the election is going to be here before we know it. 355 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:49.880 Sure, it's coming close. I mean, look, given the choices, 356 00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:55.640 I would I would go with Trump only, I think 357 00:21:55.720 --> 00:21:58.480 for lack of other choices maybe, but I think his 358 00:21:58.640 --> 00:22:02.119 policy on this. Okay, So this policy is let's stop 359 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:05.359 this nonsense. And the reason I say nonsense is because 360 00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:07.480 we have to look at this a little bit deeper. 361 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:09.759 And I have a feeling that he's onto something here. 362 00:22:09.920 --> 00:22:11.480 I know people like to make fun of him, and 363 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:14.319 I even make fun of him sometimes, but I mean, 364 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:19.039 this is so clearly. I mean, Russia is arguably the 365 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:23.720 maybe first, second, or third most powerful nation in the world, 366 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:29.440 and you've got the Ukraine, which has very little standing. 367 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:31.200 If we were going to rank them. Now, we can 368 00:22:31.279 --> 00:22:32.960 give all the weapons and all this stuff, and we've 369 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:36.440 give them all this great stuff, but just sheer body 370 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:39.880 count army versus army, there is no way that Russia 371 00:22:39.960 --> 00:22:43.440 actually loses this war. So there's something going on, and 372 00:22:43.480 --> 00:22:45.240 well that's not what your show is about tonight, so 373 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:47.839 we're not going to talk about that. But this needs 374 00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:51.240 to end because there's something funny going on here. There's 375 00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:54.720 a lot of money flowing and it seems very very 376 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:59.440 odd that this massive country, you know, so strong, can't 377 00:23:00.759 --> 00:23:03.279 make any inroads and this has to become an endless, 378 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:06.720 forever war because they really wanted the Ukraine. They just 379 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:08.160 take it. Let's face it. 380 00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:12.680 Well, here's the I thought that back in the when 381 00:23:12.720 --> 00:23:15.960 the war started, and you know, in twenty twenty two, 382 00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:18.599 I thought to myself, Okay, this is going to be 383 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:22.039 a couple of weeks and they'll just roll. But obviously 384 00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:28.079 Ukraine has stood the test of time. Now, I don't 385 00:23:28.079 --> 00:23:30.920 know if it's the strength of the spirit of the people, 386 00:23:31.960 --> 00:23:34.839 but I agree with you on paper, it's like watching 387 00:23:34.839 --> 00:23:37.000 a football game and one team is a twenty one 388 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:39.920 point favorite, and you're going into the fourth quarter and 389 00:23:39.960 --> 00:23:43.200 it's tied seven to seven. It's like, what's wrong with 390 00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:43.680 this picture? 391 00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:50.200 It almost seems purposely mismanaged. It just just something thinks 392 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:54.799 about it by putin, by I think by Putin because 393 00:23:54.839 --> 00:23:58.799 I'm not so sure. Well, because you've got when you 394 00:23:58.839 --> 00:24:01.279 look at all of arts and all, when you really 395 00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:04.559 look at the whole picture and the close relationship between 396 00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:08.000 the two countries and the populations of the two countries, 397 00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:12.400 it almost seems like it's not like he's like he's 398 00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:14.799 trying to do something that he's not really saying what 399 00:24:14.839 --> 00:24:17.480 he's trying to do. But there's something more here that 400 00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:21.519 we just aren't either privy to or or or aren't 401 00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:26.440