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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thorntons on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, as we get the four o'clock hours started,

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<v Speaker 2>I will let you know some news that you may

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<v Speaker 2>are already be aware of, if not plan accordingly, The

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<v Speaker 2>Governor's Cup game next week when the Cats host Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully the streak comes to an end. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have the energy to really even talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that matchup today. I mean I could if I really,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, tried, but you know, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>think about that game. Although the way in which you

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<v Speaker 2>lost to Stanford makes it to where like hard to

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<v Speaker 2>imagine something making you feel worse than that, But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the rivalry that's different. That's a loss or a win

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<v Speaker 2>where the emotional impact you get rather a be negative

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<v Speaker 2>or positive, is a little bit stronger than most games.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, it's gonna kick off at now no surprise,

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<v Speaker 2>not exactly a big time game for any network. So

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<v Speaker 2>noon in Lexington next Saturday. Louisville against pitt this Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>their final home game of the season, Senior Day.

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<v Speaker 3>That'll kick off at four o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll have you covered for both of those games,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, like we always do. So at three o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get our pregame show started, of course against Pittsburgh,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll react to whatever it is that happens coming up

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<v Speaker 2>here on Saturday in the Louisville Football Post Games show

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<v Speaker 2>for said a by Alex Rwright Lawyers, Sue Distracted Driver

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<v Speaker 3>So realcoie.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we dive back in here, I asked earlier, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I might have just mentioned earlier when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to like the worst upsets of all time, we

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<v Speaker 2>ran through the worst losses that they've had as far

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<v Speaker 2>as where they were favored by a lot of points

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<v Speaker 2>and lost outright, this is the fifth worst upset when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to that kind of stuff. And I said, look,

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<v Speaker 2>it really just depends on I mean, there's no way

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<v Speaker 2>to prove what is in fact the worst loss of

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<v Speaker 2>all time. That's all dependent upon each individual and how

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<v Speaker 2>they see it. But somebody did send in a picture

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<v Speaker 2>on the text line of the visitors side at Stanford,

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<v Speaker 2>and it looks almost like a home game. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't really look like a home game because you

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<v Speaker 2>know it would be beat I mean, if if that's

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<v Speaker 2>what a home crowd looked like at Stanford and there

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<v Speaker 2>were that many people there but still be really bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But like there were seemingly a lot more Lowiwville fans

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<v Speaker 2>at that game, then maybe some of the other road

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<v Speaker 2>games they've been on this year, because obviously, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>going to that part of the country it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you can make that a real fun trip. And I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to this game, you were there Saturday

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<v Speaker 2>and you're from like around here, I would imagine the

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<v Speaker 2>reason you picked that one is more than anything because

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<v Speaker 2>of the destination, right, Like, maybe you love that area

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<v Speaker 2>of the country. You think it's beautiful, there's certainly a

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<v Speaker 2>lot to do. Maybe it's a place you've never been

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<v Speaker 2>before and you wanted to experience it, and you also

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<v Speaker 2>get to watch your football team play. But one of

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<v Speaker 2>the factors that you decided or one of the factors

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<v Speaker 2>that led to you deciding to make the road trip

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<v Speaker 2>to this game was probably because you didn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>worry about a loss maybe impacting your experience on that trip.

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<v Speaker 2>To California. Well, you were wrong, and that sucks. So

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<v Speaker 2>this person who texted in that picture said, even if

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<v Speaker 2>he did not go to the game, he probably would

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<v Speaker 2>have said that was the worst loss he's ever watched

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<v Speaker 2>for Louisville just because of the way it ended.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I mean the.

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<v Speaker 2>Specific errors that were made at the end of that

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<v Speaker 2>game that led to Stanford being able to win that

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<v Speaker 2>game on a last second field goal in regulation. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>just think about how it played out. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe for a second that anybody was out there

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<v Speaker 2>trying to give them the game. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I need to like defend my I don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>need to clarify, like just so you know, don't take

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<v Speaker 2>me serious, because like I would never say that. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>if you think about what could happen for Stanford to

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<v Speaker 2>win that way, where that kicker gets the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>come out there and end it on his senior day,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, every little thing the end that Louisville did,

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<v Speaker 2>either on offense or on defense with those silly penalties,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's that's how it that's how you get

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<v Speaker 2>that result. So a punch to the gut, no doubt

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<v Speaker 2>all right again, it's coffee and company. We are feel

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<v Speaker 2>about the Worton's here on Sports Talk seven to ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate you guys hanging out with us. As you could

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<v Speaker 2>expect a lot of phone calls in the three o'clock hour.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to get back to the phone lines coming

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<v Speaker 2>up here before too long. So if you did not

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<v Speaker 2>get a chance to get in, we will let you

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<v Speaker 2>do that. Five way two, five seven, one seventy nine

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<v Speaker 2>hundred is the number. But I do want to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of just pick up where we left off. There were

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of callers towards the end of the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the three o'clock hour that I agree with some

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<v Speaker 2>of the things they said. I also wanted to kind

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<v Speaker 2>for those of you just now joining us, when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to the I'll start with the staff. We'll start

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<v Speaker 2>with the most recent call and work our way back

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<v Speaker 2>because Jerry, I believe it was, Yeah, Jerry called in

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, talked about having Jeff's back, still thinking

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<v Speaker 2>he's the guy for the job, and you know he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to be here and that matters to Louisville fans.

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<v Speaker 2>But then saying that he needs to not just look

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<v Speaker 2>at Ron English, but look at some other members of

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<v Speaker 2>his staff, including his offensive coordinator, which as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>is his little brother Brian. And then Greg is the

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<v Speaker 2>chief of staff, Like I think that's his actual title.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe he's not the director of ops, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's not somebody that is actually a staffer

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<v Speaker 2>in regards to like position a specific unit rather be

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<v Speaker 2>special teams offense, defense. I think his title is just

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<v Speaker 2>chief of staff. He had that same role I believe

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<v Speaker 2>at Purdue. And I'll just say this, I'm friends with

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<v Speaker 2>with Greg. I know Greg more than I know Brian

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<v Speaker 2>or Jeff, and I've known him longer than I've known

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<v Speaker 2>any of those. And it's not like I'm hanging out

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<v Speaker 2>with all the broms and we're all, you know, getting

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<v Speaker 2>wings and beer and best buddies. But like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I hear what Jerry's saying as far as

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff having Greg in his ear during some of those

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<v Speaker 2>big decisions. And what we'll never know is what is

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<v Speaker 2>said right Like it is Jeff, you know, hearing good

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<v Speaker 2>advice from people on the sideline, including his brother, but

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<v Speaker 2>he just is like, yeah, you know, I know more

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna do what I want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know, and we'll never know, like what exactly

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<v Speaker 2>has said, like whenever he gets input from his staff,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of who it is, as far as what decision

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<v Speaker 2>they're about to make, I mean, unless you're on that

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<v Speaker 2>headset or unless you're on the sideline, we're never going

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<v Speaker 2>to know. But given the fact that Jeff runs the offense,

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<v Speaker 2>his OC is his younger brother Brian, And to be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>Brian has made mention of this before. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think he did it to like I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he was just being honest. It wasn't really

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<v Speaker 2>something he went out of his way to say. But

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<v Speaker 2>I picked up on it that when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>like what kind of influence that he has as the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive coordinator when clearly Jeff Brohm is calling the plays,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he kind of made it, you know, pretty

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<v Speaker 2>clear that he doesn't have much input, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff's gonna do what he wants to do. So like

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<v Speaker 2>you if you if you're worried about that, because here's

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<v Speaker 2>what I think has played out this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the decisions he made against Clemson to take

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<v Speaker 2>field goals was a sign that he may have learned

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<v Speaker 2>the hard way when he was you know, not taken

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<v Speaker 2>three and going forward on fourth earlier this year and

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<v Speaker 2>not getting it, which let's be honest, that's one of

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<v Speaker 2>many factors that kept you from winning some of those games.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, maybe he learned the hard way that he

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<v Speaker 2>made that decision, and now he's not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>as risky, or at least, you know, he's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a little more selective when he decides to go forward

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<v Speaker 2>on fourth down. Or maybe it's his staff that's telling

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<v Speaker 2>him like, hey, we told you so, or maybe they're saying, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I know this is what you want to do, but

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<v Speaker 2>let's consider how things have played out, and maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>listened to him. Like we'll never really know, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think because it is family members, you know, you have

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<v Speaker 2>people are just and look, people know these guys, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't want to act like everybody in town

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<v Speaker 2>can just pull out their cell phone and call the

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<v Speaker 2>brom family, but like we all know that there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people in this area that have familiarity with

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<v Speaker 2>them on personal level, some of them, So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's not really saying that that's a reason

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<v Speaker 2>for Louisville being a six and fourteen. That's underwhelming, that's undisciplined.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I can see why some fans when you

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<v Speaker 2>have a loss that plays out the way it did

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday and a six and fourteen that should be better,

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<v Speaker 2>you start to think, like, hey, are these guys maybe

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<v Speaker 2>giving him advice, But because they're the brothers, he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen to them.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, I don't think that's a crazy theory for

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<v Speaker 2>a fan to have, but like we'll never know the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll just say this about Bram himself. If you

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<v Speaker 2>gon't have Jeff Bram making decisions and calling plays, what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean not to say he's only good for that,

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<v Speaker 2>but like that's why Jeff Bram is respected so much

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<v Speaker 2>as a football coach, because he's a phenomenal play caller. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not perfect. He's clearly made some bad calls earlier

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<v Speaker 2>this year, He's made some bad decisions, but you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>like not to defend and I know today's not the

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<v Speaker 2>day to defend him. Like, you know, we aren't just

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<v Speaker 2>coming off one of the worst losses ever here, but

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<v Speaker 2>there are times where Jeff took a risk and it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 3>It burned him.

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<v Speaker 2>But sometimes like he'll he does that and the call

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<v Speaker 2>like the design worked but like a god dropped a pass,

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<v Speaker 2>or you got to the spot and the ref didn't review,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you actually got to the first down marker.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, I'm not trying to act like those all

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<v Speaker 2>were great decisions, but I'm just saying, like I have

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<v Speaker 2>no worries about Bram being good enough to call the place,

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<v Speaker 2>like the offense is not the problem here. Let's be real,

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<v Speaker 2>like the offense has not been a problem for you

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<v Speaker 2>this year really at all. And that's not to say

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<v Speaker 2>that they've been they've been perfect, but nobody is like

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to statistics, like, lol, his offense is fine,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I don't I don't know if he'll

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<v Speaker 2>like here. Here's what I'll say about the whole coordinators situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get to ron English in a second, But when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to Brian, I've always felt like Brian wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be here that long because let's be honest, he's in

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<v Speaker 2>oc he's been in that position. I mean, he joined

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff's staff at w KU, and I don't remember if

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<v Speaker 2>he joined us the quarterbacks coach or if he ended

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<v Speaker 2>up joining as the OC. But he's in OC, but

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<v Speaker 2>he hasn't really had the chance to run an offense

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<v Speaker 2>call the plays because again, Louisville's one of those teams

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a lot of teams out there like that

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<v Speaker 2>where their coach is the OC because that's what he does,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's Jeff. So like if Brian got an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to go be an OC elsewhere and call plays, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he takes the OC job at a program that

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<v Speaker 2>is not Louisville's caliber, some would say, geez, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing. Well, that's probably people who don't realize, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's now he's going to go get a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>actually call plays and really kind of, you know, show

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<v Speaker 2>what he can do when it comes to that, because

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<v Speaker 2>let's be honest, like when Jeff was the OC at

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<v Speaker 3>Was at Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we all love Jeff and clearly he already had

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<v Speaker 2>a great, great reputation in football when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>his time in the NFL, he did consulting all that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff. So like he's a smart football mine offensively,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody knows that. But like he wasn't getting a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot of credit for Louisville's dynamic offense. He's he probably

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<v Speaker 2>was a factor in it to some extent, but everybody

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<v Speaker 2>knew Boby calls to play.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same thing with Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>So, like, you know, if Brian was to get an opportunity,

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<v Speaker 2>like I think they'd be great for him, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it would eventually then be good for Jeff as well,

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<v Speaker 2>because he could go hire somebody that, you know, who

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<v Speaker 2>knows maybe he isn't going to be half the play

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<v Speaker 2>caller and the OC that his brother Brian is. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>never know, you know, until a situation like this's played

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<v Speaker 2>out and you had time to, you know, to revisit

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<v Speaker 2>it and see results. But I'm just saying, like, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's his brother, it might make it to where if

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<v Speaker 2>it's a proven OC that is in his little brother,

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<v Speaker 2>then maybe he would be a little bit more receptive

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<v Speaker 2>to guidance on stuff. But again, I just I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want a lie to you guys and say that, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the problems and one of the

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<v Speaker 2>reasons why Louisville is in the situation they're in this

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<v Speaker 2>year is because Jeff is is, you know, not being

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<v Speaker 2>challenged by his staff to make difference. Say, like, I

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<v Speaker 2>know some people disagree, and that's totally fine, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>understand it, but like I'm willing to like I'm willing

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<v Speaker 2>to live with him being risky at certain times now

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<v Speaker 2>and if it doesn't work, then, hey, it didn't work,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know that was in hindsight you can say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a bad decision because it was a risk

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<v Speaker 2>and you took the calculated risk and you didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>it done. So I hear what you're saying when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to like maybe he shouldn't lean on family so

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<v Speaker 2>much like with Greg, I mean, he's everywhere and he

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<v Speaker 2>looks phenomenal on TV. You see him getting off the

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<v Speaker 2>bus when they show when they show the team of

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<v Speaker 2>ribin places like, he's usually right there next to Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>and at times you do see him right next to

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<v Speaker 2>him talking to him, but like without knowing at all

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<v Speaker 2>what he's saying and what their conversations are or if

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<v Speaker 2>he's taking advice from him or he's not, like for

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<v Speaker 2>all we know. And again I'm not saying that I

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<v Speaker 2>believe this, but I'm just saying, like, for all we know,

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<v Speaker 2>it could be like any decision that was made that

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<v Speaker 2>ended up, you know, being one that led to it

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<v Speaker 2>not working out right, like a risk that you took

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<v Speaker 2>and it burns you.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe Greg's the one yelling at him what do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>And this is we can't do this, and maybe Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>just decides, hey, I'm going to make the decisions because

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's my job.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the head coach. Like we don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>So again I get why people bring that up, but

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<v Speaker 2>like I can't tell you that I think that's like

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<v Speaker 2>a huge issue here because again, even if you were

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<v Speaker 2>even if you were upset with with you know, Bron

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<v Speaker 2>being the Jeff's Jeff's brother Brian a legend here as

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<v Speaker 2>well being the OC, there's not results that you can

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<v Speaker 2>point to to say, well, this isn't working. They need

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<v Speaker 2>to make a change. Now on the defensive side, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to make a change. And as far as

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<v Speaker 2>who that is and what that looks like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But to one of our callers earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>who I thought made a good point, I mean, Jeff's

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<v Speaker 2>never really had a defensive coordinator that was super successful

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean Jeff's success at Purdue and at

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<v Speaker 2>Western was was based mostly off of offense, where they

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<v Speaker 2>just found themselves in shootouts and sometimes they got it done. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>clearly their defense was a big enough issue to where

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't they couldn't. I mean, look, they won some

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<v Speaker 2>pretty big games at Purdue, and when you're doing that

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<v Speaker 2>against good teams like Ohio State and you know, Iowa

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<v Speaker 2>in their top ten, I mean you're you're doing it

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<v Speaker 2>with the defense on.

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<v Speaker 3>The field as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they didn't just decide, they didn't just let the

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<v Speaker 2>offenses go back and forth. I mean that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you got you got to play defense, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, I think Ron English followed Jeff to Purdue

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<v Speaker 2>because Jeff at that point, at that time, timing's really

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<v Speaker 2>important with this kind of stuff. He found somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>gave him better results defensively than he'd ever has it

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<v Speaker 2>he's ever had as a head coach. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>it makes sense to bring him along to Louisville. And

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<v Speaker 2>last year the defense was phenomenal early on, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>they were good. That's why Louisville was good early last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Their offense wasn't terrible, but man like. It wasn't it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't special, it wasn't what we thought we were getting,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when when Jeff was hired and now this

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<v Speaker 2>you know, But but it all fell apart late last year,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think there were a variety of reasons for that.

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<v Speaker 2>The summer, you had Ron English telling folks after one

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<v Speaker 2>of the first practices of camp, or maybe it was

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<v Speaker 2>after spring practice I remember, which I think it might

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<v Speaker 2>have been earlier. It might have been earlier in fall

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<v Speaker 2>camp where he said, if you want to point fingers

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<v Speaker 2>and find somebody to blame, and I'm paraphrasing here that

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<v Speaker 2>he said, blame me, blame Ron English. Well, this was

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<v Speaker 2>his chance to do better this year, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>it's so clearly just to not. And I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>he's a terrible DC to where like, how would anybody

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<v Speaker 2>employ him? This guy's terrible because I'll be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been embedded into a college football staff to

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<v Speaker 2>where I know exactly like you know, I can't tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what it is about Ron English that makes the

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<v Speaker 2>results not be good, but I can tell you this,

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<v Speaker 2>the results aren't good.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the job.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to get results and it'd be different if

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<v Speaker 2>you inherited or you had a roster defensively that like

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<v Speaker 2>you just knew these guys were trying really hard, but man,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you gonna do? And LO almost had teams

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<v Speaker 2>like that too before, by the way, I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think some Louisville defenses at times, like the defense

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<v Speaker 2>that Charlie Strong inherited, like that defense was pretty productive.

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<v Speaker 2>That defense was pretty reliable. I don't think they had

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<v Speaker 2>half the talent that this defense has, so it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>really matter why it's not working, but it's not working.

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<v Speaker 2>And the way in which you know they've been undisciplined

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<v Speaker 2>really all year at times, and nothing looks worse on

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<v Speaker 2>a DC, in my opinion, than when nobody seems to

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<v Speaker 2>know what the hell's going on, and that the defense

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<v Speaker 2>really looked like that, more so early on this year

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<v Speaker 2>than they have as of late. But like guys running

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<v Speaker 2>in not knowing what they're doing. I mean, I remember,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'll never forget it. It was against SMU.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe you got a guy running out there with

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<v Speaker 2>his hands in the air, like I don't think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be doing this, but I don't know, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna run on the field when they're about

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<v Speaker 2>to snap it like it was embarrassing, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's on your DC. That's that's the guy. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't see a scenario where he's back. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just maybe that's maybe maybe I'm wrong, Maybe Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>is really comfortable working with Ron English. But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>If Jeff decided to bring back Ron English, I think

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<v Speaker 2>there'd be fans that would just turn their energy being

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<v Speaker 2>anti Ron English to maybe not being anti Jeff Brohm,

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<v Speaker 2>because that doesn't sound possible. But like at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>you're still choosing to keep a guy around that is

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<v Speaker 2>clearly not doing a good enough job, Like that's on you,

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<v Speaker 2>and look, it is on him.

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<v Speaker 3>At the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff is responsible for everything, and he says that every

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<v Speaker 2>chance he gets, anytime you hear from him on a

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<v Speaker 2>pro game press conference, a weekly press conference, his coaches

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<v Speaker 2>show he knows when they struggle and they lose and

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<v Speaker 2>there's things they need to be fixed, it falls on him.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's all you can do in that position, and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of coaches don't do that. But I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>that he does. But you know, even though he says that,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he's probably not looking around at his entire

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<v Speaker 2>staff and thinking, hey, you guys are the best and

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<v Speaker 2>you know I'm failing you.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, maybe he does. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But as far as who would replace Ron English, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>your guess is as good as mine. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 2>been some names floated out there by Louisville fans. Not

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<v Speaker 2>to say that like it's in the works, but like

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<v Speaker 2>that who they would prefer. We can certainly get into

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<v Speaker 2>that on the other side. But I mean, look here

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<v Speaker 2>here's another thing that, like, I don't it's hard to

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<v Speaker 2>envision this being the scenario, but like, what if the

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<v Speaker 2>defense comes out against Pittsburgh and Kentucky and they're phenomenal

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<v Speaker 2>and like you win those games because of defense. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that it would happen, but like it

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<v Speaker 2>also isn't the craziest thing ever, because I've never really

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<v Speaker 2>felt like the defense lacked the personnel to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to go out and get stops consistently get off the

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<v Speaker 2>field on third down. Because again we're talking about things

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<v Speaker 2>that aren't necessarily talent related. It's okay, can you just

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<v Speaker 2>avoid making a silly mental mistake like what we saw

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<v Speaker 2>play out the other day at the end of the game,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, why did you just why did you

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<v Speaker 2>take your foot off the guests? Like where's the urgency?

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<v Speaker 2>You were tackling really well early. Now you're arm tackling

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<v Speaker 2>and guys are carrying you five yards.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's just like they're not well led, they're not

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<v Speaker 3>well run, and that's the issue.

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<v Speaker 2>But if they come out and play well, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I don't know, Like there's two games left, and

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<v Speaker 2>let's be real, if the defense looks great and Ron

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<v Speaker 2>English is a guy that we're praising after the the

421
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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky game, then you know, maybe fans are advocating for

422
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<v Speaker 2>him to stay because you know that win would mean

423
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<v Speaker 2>a lot. But really, from start to finish this year, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let me back up, not start to finish, because the

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<v Speaker 2>first two games, I mean, it's hard to really know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. They were making some silly mistakes and

427
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<v Speaker 2>silly penalties in those games, but you didn't know what

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<v Speaker 2>to make of it because look of who they're playing.

429
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<v Speaker 2>But really, from from the Georgia Tech game on the defense,

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<v Speaker 2>you know they've they've been timely at times and they've

431
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<v Speaker 2>made plays to where you know, you get the ball back. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we're down seven. Now we got the ball back. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go see what we can do. Like they they've not

434
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<v Speaker 2>been terrible, but they just should be better. And again

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<v Speaker 2>that falls on English. And if I was Jeff prom

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<v Speaker 2>I would I would make the move at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of this season.

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<v Speaker 3>And and there's certain.

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<v Speaker 2>Things I would really focus on as far as what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for in that role. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff brom knows a lot more than me, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>a reason why he's making millions of dollars to coach

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<v Speaker 2>this program and make those tough decisions. All right, quick break,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll come back on the other side, and uh, get

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<v Speaker 2>back to the fold on Fibo. Two seventy nine hundred

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<v Speaker 2>a call again fab Oo two five seventy nine hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also want to get to the text line.

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<v Speaker 2>I've neglected some of you guys today, so keep them coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Fibo two sixty five three zero seven ninety is the

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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and company, fueled my Thorntens on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's back to work obviously. You know we've got

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<v Speaker 4>work to do and in ways, plenty of things we

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<v Speaker 4>need to improve on, and that's what this week needs

459
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<v Speaker 4>to be about, is making sure we correct mistakes, become

460
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<v Speaker 4>a better football team, get ready, compete and try to

461
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<v Speaker 4>find a win our last home game here at our field.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think our guys will practice hard this week.

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<v Speaker 4>We know that, you know, every game matters, and we

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<v Speaker 4>want to show improvement and go out there and do

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<v Speaker 4>all the small things correctly and come out and play well.

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<v Speaker 4>It'll be a tough opponent we play. They play very

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<v Speaker 4>good football. You're a long, very very good on defense,

468
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<v Speaker 4>very aggressive, get sacks, get tackles for loss. Their offense

469
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<v Speaker 4>is played better this year as well, which has helped

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<v Speaker 4>them get to seven wins. And we will have our

471
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<v Speaker 4>hands full, so we're gonna have to play good football.

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<v Speaker 4>All three segments, play together, play efficient if we want

473
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<v Speaker 4>to come out with a win.

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<v Speaker 2>That was Jeff Brom earlier today discussing the Pittsburgh matchup.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously that's the next game, and it is the last

476
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<v Speaker 2>home game. I'm hopeful that there's a good crowd out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to expect. I never really know

478
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<v Speaker 2>what to expect when it comes to, you know, crowds

479
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<v Speaker 2>for these kind of games, especially when you're coming off

480
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<v Speaker 2>that loss, which does really I mean, let's let's be real.

481
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<v Speaker 2>The momentum that you felt from Clemson is gone.

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<v Speaker 3>You still.

483
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's still a big time victory for Louisville

484
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<v Speaker 2>that needed to happen in a major way. But you know,

485
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<v Speaker 2>the good feeling that you got is from that game,

486
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<v Speaker 2>At least for me and from everybody I've talked to,

487
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<v Speaker 2>it kind of dwindled away with just how badly you

488
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<v Speaker 2>performed and the result that you had, just everything that

489
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<v Speaker 2>came with Saturday against Stanford. But it is your last

490
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<v Speaker 2>chance to go see this group in action. I mean,

491
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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to Tyler Shuck, I mean, he's the

492
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<v Speaker 2>last time you'll get to see him at Cardinal Stadium

493
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<v Speaker 2>and that's a bummer.

494
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<v Speaker 3>But you know, he's been good.

495
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<v Speaker 2>So the weather, I'm not gonna go looking at the

496
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<v Speaker 2>weather right now because I don't want to get sidetracked.

497
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<v Speaker 2>But I know last week, at one point they were

498
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<v Speaker 2>talking about the upcoming weekend where we could get some

499
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<v Speaker 2>you know, some cold temperatures that might lead to like

500
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<v Speaker 2>a snowy mix, which you know that's that's not gonna

501
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<v Speaker 2>help attendance. I wouldn't think, but I'm hopeful that there's

502
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<v Speaker 2>a good crowd out there, and obviously hope lot will ends.

503
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if they went out,

504
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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be shocked if they lose both of these games.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of where we are. Usually ten games in,

506
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<v Speaker 2>you have a pretty good idea of who you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville has shown us who they are, but I think

508
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<v Speaker 2>it's led to just really not knowing what you're gonna

509
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<v Speaker 2>get now. I think the Clemson game was just proof

510
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<v Speaker 2>that they can play pretty clean football and win and

511
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<v Speaker 2>beat good teams. And you know, there's other examples out

512
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<v Speaker 2>there where you know, they've they've been in games with

513
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<v Speaker 2>good teams where they had chances to win despite some mistakes,

514
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<v Speaker 2>but they you know, they don't get it done. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think pitt is probably gonna end up being the

516
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<v Speaker 2>probably the fourth best team, let me back up, fifth

517
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<v Speaker 2>best team you play this year, So it'll be a

518
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<v Speaker 2>challenge Kentucky. I don't really know where you'd put them.

519
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<v Speaker 2>And again, we'll get to and by the way, real quick,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that everybody's like, I don't care, just be

521
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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky because you're not gonna there's no chance for the

522
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<v Speaker 2>ACC championship obviously, no playoff Bowl games. Who knows what

523
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<v Speaker 2>the hell those are gonna look like this year. So

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<v Speaker 2>I get why there's so many fans that are like,

525
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<v Speaker 2>all right, whatever, I'm numb, just please go be Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not good this year, and just go win that

527
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<v Speaker 2>one and we'll reset and you know, talk about next

528
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<v Speaker 2>year when we when we you know, when we beat Kentucky. Like,

529
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<v Speaker 2>it seems like there's a lot of people that kind

530
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<v Speaker 2>of have that belief. And I shouldn't say belief, you

531
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<v Speaker 2>just have that mindset. Now, if you believe that Louisville

532
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<v Speaker 2>can beat them, then I'm with you. I think they can,

533
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<v Speaker 2>But just expecting them to do it is just it's

534
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<v Speaker 2>a different conversation, to be honest with you. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not avoiding talking about Kentucky because I'm you know,

536
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<v Speaker 2>not wanting to go there. I mean, maybe that's part

537
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<v Speaker 2>of it, but like without having a postgame show Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I just I've yet to turn the page, and

539
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<v Speaker 2>I will at some point, probably tomorrow. But yeah, Saturday sucked.

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<v Speaker 2>But many texts on the text line, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>if you guys want to text in, you can five

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<v Speaker 2>open your account today at LNFCU dot com. We have

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<v Speaker 2>phone lines open as well if you want to jump in.

547
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<v Speaker 2>Been a very caller driven show today, which makes sense

548
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<v Speaker 2>given what happens, so if you want to call it,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you want to call in, you can do

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<v Speaker 2>that as well. Five X two five seven one seventy

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<v Speaker 2>nine hundred. Now, the one of the texts that came

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<v Speaker 2>in here recently as far as the Kentucky game, was

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<v Speaker 2>just you know a concern from somebody saying that if

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<v Speaker 2>we don't get pressure, and English doesn't have pressure coming

555
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<v Speaker 2>at brock Fandergrift, then he's going to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>sit back there and pick apart our secondary with guys

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<v Speaker 2>like Dane Key and Barry and Brown. And yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't had that thought yet, but you know, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean again, I could see that happening. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want it to happen, but like I could, I could

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<v Speaker 2>see that happening for sure. And by the way, there

562
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<v Speaker 2>was I was scrolling through on Saturday, trying to win

563
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<v Speaker 2>a bet at the end of the night to like

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<v Speaker 2>make me feel not as dead, and it you know,

565
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<v Speaker 2>didn't work. But I was scrolling through looking at games,

566
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<v Speaker 2>and sure enough they already had some lines out there

567
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<v Speaker 2>for next week, and Louisville was I believe a one

568
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<v Speaker 2>point favorite, and that line has been there here and there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if it's there right now. I'm going

570
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<v Speaker 2>to go look here at DraftKings to see if they

571
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<v Speaker 2>have the spread.

572
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<v Speaker 3>For that game.

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<v Speaker 2>Looks like yeah, as of now, they don't have anything

574
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<v Speaker 2>other than games that are you know, coming up this weekend,

575
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<v Speaker 2>but I'm sure it'll be something similar to that depending

576
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<v Speaker 2>upon what happens this week. You know, louisells at home

577
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<v Speaker 2>against pitt They're eight point favorites. I think it started

578
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<v Speaker 2>close to ten and a half, which I guess doesn't

579
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<v Speaker 2>really surprise me. But you know, again, like expecting them

580
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<v Speaker 2>to cover, it's hard for me to say. I expect

581
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<v Speaker 2>it with the most recent result that we got. But again,

582
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<v Speaker 2>if they do, I can't say it's a surprise. Now

583
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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky they're taking on Texas, that is a let's see here,

584
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<v Speaker 2>what time is that game? And this is this is

585
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not complaining about it because I love having endless

586
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<v Speaker 2>amounts to games to bet on, because it's fun. I

587
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<v Speaker 2>enjoy giving and donating my money to different sports books.

588
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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of fun. In all seriousness, it does

589
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<v Speaker 2>enhance the experience of watching sports. But here it is,

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<v Speaker 2>I it's hard for me to find some of these matchups,

591
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<v Speaker 2>you know, whenever I'm scrolling through seemingly an endless list

592
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<v Speaker 2>of matchups. But yes, Kentucky and Texas at three thirty

593
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<v Speaker 2>and Kentucky is twenty and a half point underdogs there,

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<v Speaker 2>so I would say, you know, right now, it's probably

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be close to a Pickham, And then I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever happens this week, we'll send it in one of

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<v Speaker 2>the two directions, but probably not at like a big

598
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<v Speaker 2>probably not a whole lot of movement. Right, It'll probably

599
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<v Speaker 2>be whoever's favorite. It probably won't be by a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be my guess.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So somebody texted in earlier and said is it a

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<v Speaker 2>like basically asking is it a real thing to bring

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<v Speaker 2>back Clint Hurt? And I don't know what you mean

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<v Speaker 2>by is it a real thing? Like are you saying

606
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<v Speaker 2>like if you're asking me, is it a real thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's happening and people are talking about it like

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<v Speaker 2>it's going on behind the scenes. I would say that's

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<v Speaker 2>not real. I don't think there's any compan No, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not real. Now, is it like a real thing to

611
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<v Speaker 2>where like maybe he would be a good candidate to

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<v Speaker 2>come back to Louisville and be the DC if Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>decides to move on from Ron English. That's different conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>So for those that aren't, I mean, gosh, I hate

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<v Speaker 2>to say this, but like there's probably people listening that

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<v Speaker 2>like don't really know who Clint Hurt is. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he hasn't been here in over ten years, but he

618
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<v Speaker 2>was the defensive line coach and the and the basically

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<v Speaker 2>the lead recruit of the recruiting coordinator for Charlie Strong

620
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<v Speaker 2>when he got the job back in twenty ten. So

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<v Speaker 2>Clint Hurt is somebody that ended up after leaving Louisville.

622
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<v Speaker 2>He went straight to the NFL and was well, he

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<v Speaker 2>got a show calls. That was part of it, but

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, that was one that's already Actually I

625
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<v Speaker 2>don't know, because he hasn't coached in college since then,

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<v Speaker 2>do you I think you still have to consider the fact.

627
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<v Speaker 2>And again, we don't need to go there because this

628
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<v Speaker 2>guy may never I mean Clint may never be somebody

629
00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:40.960
<v Speaker 2>that is considered for the job. They may not even

630
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<v Speaker 2>make a change. But it has been discussed by you know,

631
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:47.480
<v Speaker 2>enough Louisville fans and look, he was good in the NFL.

632
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<v Speaker 2>But I do think like you would have to still

633
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<v Speaker 2>do the whole process of like you're hiring somebody that

634
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:53.799
<v Speaker 2>got a show cause because Louisville, I believe was prepared

635
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:56.720
<v Speaker 2>to keep him. Tom George was prepared to keep Clint

636
00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Hurt despite the show cause. But Clint Hurt decided to

637
00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:00.480
<v Speaker 2>move on to the NFL, and when he did that,

638
00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:02.839
<v Speaker 2>he actually had some success to where he was in

639
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:04.640
<v Speaker 2>the NFL for a really long time. He's still there

640
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:08.839
<v Speaker 2>right now. So he's with the Bears and he was

641
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:13.160
<v Speaker 2>their defensive line coach. He coached outside linebackers for two

642
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:15.400
<v Speaker 2>seasons after that, so he's with the Bears for three years,

643
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:17.599
<v Speaker 2>and then he got the job as the assistant head

644
00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:21.519
<v Speaker 2>coach and the defensive line coach with the Seattle Seahawks.

645
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:24.000
<v Speaker 2>He did that for four years, had success, and then

646
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Pete Carroll made him the defensive coordinator in two thousand

647
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:29.720
<v Speaker 2>and two and two thousand and three, well, Pete Carroll

648
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:33.000
<v Speaker 2>retired and that led to Clint needing to find work elsewhere.

649
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:35.359
<v Speaker 2>So now he's the defensive line coach with the Philadelphia Eagles.

650
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:38.359
<v Speaker 2>So what I will tell you is that I've always

651
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:41.359
<v Speaker 2>been told by former players of his that he would

652
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:43.599
<v Speaker 2>love to come back to college in some capacity. Got

653
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:46.599
<v Speaker 2>to keep in mind, he was never a coordinator in college.

654
00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:50.720
<v Speaker 3>He was only a line coach.

655
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:54.000
<v Speaker 2>So he was a coordinator in the NFL, and you know,

656
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:57.160
<v Speaker 2>it was successful, I believe with the Seahawks. At least,

657
00:29:57.200 --> 00:29:59.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, he didn't get canned. It was a situation

658
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.279
<v Speaker 2>where Pete Carroll tired and they hired somebody who brought

659
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:04.599
<v Speaker 2>in his own staff. So you know, if he'd be interested,

660
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's that's a name to consider. But really,

661
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:14.599
<v Speaker 2>when you're making that decision to go hire a coordinator,

662
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:17.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think what you really focused on years

663
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:22.440
<v Speaker 2>ago is so different now. The things that really really

664
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:25.000
<v Speaker 2>mattered ten years ago they still matter, but maybe not

665
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:27.960
<v Speaker 2>as much because you know, what is your best recruiter,

666
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:32.599
<v Speaker 2>your bank account, money and iol like, that's not the

667
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:35.640
<v Speaker 2>only reason that that guys go to certain schools, so

668
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:37.559
<v Speaker 2>you need to have so again, it was all about

669
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>recruiting and being able to establish relationships. Relationships is so

670
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:44.319
<v Speaker 2>important in life, every aspect of it. Well, it's a

671
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:49.279
<v Speaker 2>big part of recruiting, right, establishing relationships with players their families.

672
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's networking, and it's you know, it's being

673
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:54.000
<v Speaker 2>able to sell, right, you're selling a program and are

674
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:55.640
<v Speaker 2>they going to buy by coming to your school? So

675
00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:57.359
<v Speaker 2>you still need to be able to do that, but

676
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:00.480
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't matter as much now because now a factor

677
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:01.920
<v Speaker 2>in the decision as to where you're going to go,

678
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:04.240
<v Speaker 2>rather it be the portal or the fresh the kids

679
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:06.359
<v Speaker 2>that are coming out of high school as freshmen, money's

680
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.279
<v Speaker 2>going to be a factor too. So like, if your

681
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:10.119
<v Speaker 2>money is in a good spot, which it has to be,

682
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:11.759
<v Speaker 2>you can go get a coordinator that I don't know

683
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:13.599
<v Speaker 2>that I would say like because it used to be

684
00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:15.880
<v Speaker 2>so important to where it was like the ultimate thing,

685
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:18.000
<v Speaker 2>like Hey, Like, let me give you an example, and

686
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:19.960
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be you know, this is gonna be mean,

687
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:22.359
<v Speaker 2>but it's just the truth. Like, I'm not sure Vince

688
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Marrow's headset is ever on when he's coaching on the

689
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:29.039
<v Speaker 2>sideline at Kentucky. But you know what, he's a phenomenal recruiter.

690
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:32.559
<v Speaker 2>He has been able to bring some really good players

691
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:34.920
<v Speaker 2>to Kentucky for Mark Stoops that nobody else has ever

692
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.759
<v Speaker 2>even probably been able to get on the phone, and

693
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.119
<v Speaker 2>he's done it in the portal and he's done it

694
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:44.759
<v Speaker 2>and especially with incoming freshmen. So you know, like that

695
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:47.480
<v Speaker 2>that's value. That's why he's making over a million dollars.

696
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:49.759
<v Speaker 2>That's why he's a made man in Lexington. So he

697
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:53.119
<v Speaker 2>has that relationship ability. But you know what, if Kentucky

698
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:55.359
<v Speaker 2>didn't have good money to go along with it, it

699
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:57.400
<v Speaker 2>would fall flat. Not to say he wouldn't get anybody,

700
00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:00.279
<v Speaker 2>but like both things matter now, and I guess, you know,

701
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:02.920
<v Speaker 2>balancing which one matters most. It just comes down to

702
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I guess the recruit. But like I'm if Louisville does

703
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:08.279
<v Speaker 2>open up that spot, the defensive coordinator position and they're

704
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:10.599
<v Speaker 2>out there looking for somebody, I'm not as much worried

705
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:13.039
<v Speaker 2>about the recruiting aspect of it, as far as somebody

706
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.519
<v Speaker 2>that man he brought in a top ten or top

707
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:16.720
<v Speaker 2>twenty class to this school.

708
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:17.039
<v Speaker 3>He held.

709
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:18.559
<v Speaker 2>You know, again, it's not like I'm telling you that

710
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:20.759
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter at all and that it's worthless.

711
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:21.400
<v Speaker 3>It just doesn't.

712
00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:23.319
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't have it doesn't mean as much as it

713
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:24.759
<v Speaker 2>used to when you're looking to fill that.

714
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Kind of a position.

715
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:28.640
<v Speaker 2>In fact, you know, we'll get into this in the

716
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>five o'clock hour because I'm gonna have to eat some

717
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:33.480
<v Speaker 2>crow one because Deon Sanders. You know, I was very

718
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:37.279
<v Speaker 2>critical and everything I said was true about how poorly

719
00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:41.119
<v Speaker 2>Year one went for him in Colorado. And I still think, again,

720
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:42.400
<v Speaker 2>this is just a matter of opinion. I thought he

721
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:45.519
<v Speaker 2>was I thought he sounded foolish, acting as if they

722
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:47.640
<v Speaker 2>just won a national championship when quite literally they were

723
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:50.279
<v Speaker 2>very very disappointing last year. Right now they may go

724
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:52.359
<v Speaker 2>win their league and that would be a big step up.

725
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:54.880
<v Speaker 2>I still think he'll probably be gone after his son leaves,

726
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 2>but we'll see. I think he'll probably go to the NFL,

727
00:32:57.160 --> 00:32:59.839
<v Speaker 2>just my guess. But maybe I'm way wrong either way.

728
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:02.880
<v Speaker 2>When I say, eat crow, I'm gonna have to cite

729
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:05.039
<v Speaker 2>or I'm gonna have to use sound from a Deon

730
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Sanders press conference that I used to just play to

731
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:09.519
<v Speaker 2>make fun of how arrogant he was. Now I'm gonna

732
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.400
<v Speaker 2>have to play it and let you guys hear it

733
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:14.880
<v Speaker 2>so I can say this guy's absolutely right. Like the

734
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:18.640
<v Speaker 2>days of bragging about rankings in the high school recruiting

735
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.720
<v Speaker 2>is worthless because if you got a five, if you

736
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:25.559
<v Speaker 2>got a top ten class, what are the chances that

737
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:27.599
<v Speaker 2>that top ten class that you delivered is ever going

738
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.519
<v Speaker 2>to all play together? Half of them are probably gonna

739
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:32.440
<v Speaker 2>go to the portal. So, like, you know, you still

740
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:33.480
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, you got to bring

741
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:35.119
<v Speaker 2>in young talent, and that's just now the nature of

742
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:37.359
<v Speaker 2>the beast. You're gonna have a lot more turnover. But like,

743
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:43.119
<v Speaker 2>recruiting rankings have never actually mattered when it comes to

744
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:45.759
<v Speaker 2>it giving you anything. Now, get you know what I

745
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:47.240
<v Speaker 2>mean by that is, yeah, you go look at the

746
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:50.039
<v Speaker 2>best teams in college football every year, they pretty much

747
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.000
<v Speaker 2>are in the top in the rankings and recruiting classes.

748
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:53.759
<v Speaker 2>So yes, they do matter in that aspect, But like

749
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:56.000
<v Speaker 2>it's what you do with it. Right, just by having

750
00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:58.160
<v Speaker 2>a class that came in number five in the country.

751
00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:00.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if they don't do anything, is it worth

752
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:01.519
<v Speaker 2>having it time? I mean, in fact, it makes it

753
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:03.680
<v Speaker 2>even worse because not only did you not get a

754
00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:06.640
<v Speaker 2>whole lot, you probably you know, felt like you were

755
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:10.519
<v Speaker 2>you know that. I mean you were probably expecting a

756
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:11.960
<v Speaker 2>lot because of where they were ranked, and they ended

757
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.159
<v Speaker 2>up being terrible or whatever. So you know, I'm not

758
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.079
<v Speaker 2>if a guy can can can get it done, get results,

759
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:20.800
<v Speaker 2>and he's a respected coach when it comes to you know,

760
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:23.440
<v Speaker 2>running a defense, calling the plays, you know, that kind

761
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:25.440
<v Speaker 2>of stuff like that. That's always mattered, but I think

762
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:27.360
<v Speaker 2>it actually matters more now than it used to because

763
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:29.639
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to have somebody out there that's recruiting

764
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:31.719
<v Speaker 2>the high school level the same way you did many

765
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:34.840
<v Speaker 2>years ago because of two things. The portal makes it

766
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:37.480
<v Speaker 2>to where it's just different. But also money nil matters

767
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:39.599
<v Speaker 2>to where that's going to be a bigger factor. And

768
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:41.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't need to be a bad relationships guy,

769
00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:42.679
<v Speaker 2>which I don't even know how you be in the

770
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:45.000
<v Speaker 2>business in the industry doing that job if that was

771
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:48.400
<v Speaker 2>the case. But you know, that would be what I

772
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:50.079
<v Speaker 2>would think is the most important thing when you're out

773
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:54.000
<v Speaker 2>there looking for a new coordinator, somebody who has proven,

774
00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:57.159
<v Speaker 2>somebody that you know, maybe maybe a guy that has

775
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:01.519
<v Speaker 2>been a really good DC, but yet his head coach

776
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:03.239
<v Speaker 2>is kind of the DC. Let me give you an example.

777
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Tyler's uh, let me pull it up here. Tyler Santucci,

778
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:10.360
<v Speaker 2>I think is the name. Yeah, he's a guy who

779
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:13.039
<v Speaker 2>was the defensive coordinator for Duke when Mike Elko was there.

780
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Duke's defense was great, right, But like Tyler Santucci, you know,

781
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:19.199
<v Speaker 2>is he getting any credit? Is he really running the defense?

782
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Probably not, because that's what Mike Elko does. Well, Mike

783
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:25.039
<v Speaker 2>Elko goes to Texas A and m Tyler Santuci gets

784
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:27.239
<v Speaker 2>to run his own defense now for Georgia Tech, and

785
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:29.079
<v Speaker 2>I haven't checked the numbers recently, but at one point

786
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:31.800
<v Speaker 2>their defense was substantially better. That's a guy who really

787
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:33.920
<v Speaker 2>learned from somebody that was really good at what he did,

788
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:35.440
<v Speaker 2>so much so that he got the Texas A and

789
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:37.559
<v Speaker 2>M job, and now he's got a chance to kind

790
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.199
<v Speaker 2>of run his defense. He's young, he's relatable, and he's

791
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:44.000
<v Speaker 2>he knows what he's doing. So something like that, I

792
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:45.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know who that guy is, meaning like, who could

793
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:48.000
<v Speaker 2>be the next Tyler Santucci. But that's the kind of scenario.

794
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:50.199
<v Speaker 2>I would be happy if that's how it played out

795
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:52.679
<v Speaker 2>as far as making a change. All right, quick break,

796
00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:54.159
<v Speaker 2>we'll come back for a quick segment and then we'll

797
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:56.920
<v Speaker 2>finish strong here in the five o'clock hour. Don't go anywhere,

798
00:35:57.119 --> 00:35:58.960
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799
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