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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's my great pleasure to welcome to our podcast

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<v Speaker 1>this week. It is the outstanding up and coming super midleweight.

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<v Speaker 1>Some might call them still the prospects, some might say

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<v Speaker 1>a contender. I think more on the contender side. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into that, diego, But welcome to the show. You

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<v Speaker 1>you are on because you have the main event coming

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<v Speaker 1>up Saturday on the Zone on the Matchro Boxing card.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be taking on the battle tested Messi Celeski in

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<v Speaker 1>a twelve round super middleweight fight. You'll be at home

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<v Speaker 1>in the Los Angeles area at the Dignity Health Dignity

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Health Park, and you're the main event, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, I'm happy to have you on here.

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<v Speaker 1>And first of all, it's you know, for you, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be another hometown fight. Your your second headliner

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<v Speaker 1>fight in the LA area in your past three fights,

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<v Speaker 1>after a lot of moving around. Can you just tell

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<v Speaker 1>me a little bit about the excitement level you have

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<v Speaker 1>of fighting in a place like the Dignity Health Park,

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<v Speaker 1>which is seen just so many great fights over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you're the next in line to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the main event there.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah yeah, man, it's a great I'm excited, very motivated.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I put the work in, like like I was saying earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I remember going to Dignity House Sports Park

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<v Speaker 2>at the Times stub Hub as a kid, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to go see a lot of amazing fights, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have a lot of memories there with my

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<v Speaker 2>dad and my brothers, with friends who you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>all go up there to watch them great fights. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited now that it's my turn, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm the guy headlining there. I'm the guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>who's has all the lights under him, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Just ready to go. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this is where I belong and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just keep showing the world why I belong here.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the end of twenty twenty three, I picked

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<v Speaker 1>you for my platform, my publication Fight Freaks Unite as

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<v Speaker 1>the Prospect of the ear And I've been picking prospects

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<v Speaker 1>diego for a very long time, almost twenty five years

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<v Speaker 1>at ESPN at USA today and you follow in a

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<v Speaker 1>long line of fighters that have gone on that I picked.

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<v Speaker 1>Some that didn't amount to anything, and you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't get them all right, but so that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them that won world championships, and some guys were

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<v Speaker 1>even in the Hall of Fame. I pick guys like

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<v Speaker 1>Canelo Alvarez and Lomachenko and Miguel Coto, et cetera. And

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<v Speaker 1>now you're next up. So I just wonder, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel thus far about your development? You're only twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three years old. So far everything has gone beautifully, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems to me, and you're really on your way. But

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of when you sit down and assess where

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<v Speaker 1>you're at, what you have in front of you, where

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<v Speaker 1>do you think things are right now in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the development that you've been along with matrimon, I feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Very good about the way my career has.

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<v Speaker 2>Been going, you know, with the team that I have,

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<v Speaker 2>with the training team, with the management team, with the

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<v Speaker 2>promotion of the company that I have behind me. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's just I'm just grateful, you know. I'm mattrely.

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<v Speaker 2>My fil has done an amazing job and taking my

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<v Speaker 2>career from pro debut to now twenty one and no

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<v Speaker 2>headlining shows in different stays, different countries, and now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>planning in my backyard of la and in an amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>amazing arena as the war Grounds in Carson California, and

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<v Speaker 2>I fought there once before opening up the show. So

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm back headlining and it's amazing, man, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's a dream country for me to headline in

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<v Speaker 2>my hometown and be able to put young fighters on

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<v Speaker 2>the undercard and and help them make a name for themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a good feeling, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm extremely happy with the work I've been putting

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<v Speaker 2>in this camp, extremely happy with with the development, the results,

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<v Speaker 2>the everything that I've been putting in to this boxing career.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm just excited. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Next next Saturday, We're going for twenty two and zero

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<v Speaker 2>against a tough heart opponent. But I will show the

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<v Speaker 2>world while I belong here and while I'm the next

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<v Speaker 2>guy at the one sixty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned at the training team by your training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>you are trained by Jose Benavide Senior. He of course

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<v Speaker 1>is the father of Jose Junior and David Benavide's. David,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, one of the head for the last number

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<v Speaker 1>of years, one of the best super middleweights in the

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<v Speaker 1>world and has just stepped up to the light heavyweight

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<v Speaker 1>division in his last fight, and he has been a

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<v Speaker 1>multi time world champion. So I have to think that

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<v Speaker 1>when you train with somebody like David, who's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a little older than you, a little bit more experienced

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<v Speaker 1>than you, that that's just got to be amazing experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean not only working with his dad in terms of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a good trainer obviously, but how much have

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<v Speaker 1>you learned just in the experience of being around a

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<v Speaker 1>top contender and a championship level fighter like David. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys asparred together. What's that? How how has that

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<v Speaker 1>helped your development?

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<v Speaker 3>Man? It's helped me a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, me and David have done on thousands and

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of rounds of spying together in the past five years.

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<v Speaker 2>And David is one of those guys that if you're

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<v Speaker 2>around him, man, he just wants to make you better.

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<v Speaker 2>He wants to he wants to see you reach your

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<v Speaker 2>full potential.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've seen that with the way he obviously with me,

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<v Speaker 2>the way he tries to correct certain things for me,

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<v Speaker 2>or he tries to tell me, like things that things

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<v Speaker 2>will work for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Because of my my style, my my range.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, obviously we have different styles, but but we're

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<v Speaker 2>both good at what we do and and he's He's

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<v Speaker 2>told you. He would tell me all the time. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, man, you're one of the best boxes.

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<v Speaker 3>I was barred with you. You know, you have great skills.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I help him get ready for that Caleb Plan fight

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<v Speaker 2>and and he did amazing. So so yeah, man, David's

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<v Speaker 2>really a great guy to have to be around him,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if you're you're trained to fight for these big

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<v Speaker 2>fights men. And Senior obviously been to Vida's, has been

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<v Speaker 2>in the corner of a lot of world championship fights,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh he's got that experience, and it gives me

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<v Speaker 2>that confidence.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, when I have him in my corner.

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying, I take it. We're never going to

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<v Speaker 1>see David Benavitie's against uh Diego Pacheco in a boxer ink, right, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, who knows, you know, because obviously I'm a big

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<v Speaker 2>guy as well, and eventually I'll be moving.

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<v Speaker 3>Up to one seventy five.

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<v Speaker 2>And if we're both champions and and to fight that

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<v Speaker 2>the people want to see, just the way that people

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<v Speaker 2>want to see Canelo and vidas you know, and and

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<v Speaker 2>and we're two guys that we're up for it, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, We're we're in this. We're in

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<v Speaker 2>this to make the best to day, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and make the biggest fight it's possible.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm only twenty three years old, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I if I had it my way, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>ready for a tit up shot now.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, no, you're not that far away. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a division where it's hard to get

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<v Speaker 1>title fights because Canelo holds three of the belts and

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<v Speaker 1>the other belt is vacant but has a fight that's

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<v Speaker 1>on the table in terms of your activity level. One

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<v Speaker 1>thing that struck me is interesting about the way your

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<v Speaker 1>your career has unfolded for a young fighter you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>just twenty three years old. A lot of guys they

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<v Speaker 1>don't they don't like to or they don't ever travel

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<v Speaker 1>out of their comfort zone at a young age. And

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<v Speaker 1>in the early part of your career, you've already fought

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<v Speaker 1>in a whole bunch of different paces around the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>but you've also fought more notably three different countries besides

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. You've fought in Mexico, Saudi Arabia, England.

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<v Speaker 1>How has that been a lot of guys, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't do that. I mean you seem to embrace

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<v Speaker 1>that and shine on the road. You know in England,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, you fought the British fighter in his home

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<v Speaker 1>area and you're just sort of getting used to that

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<v Speaker 1>for down the road. I mean, how, how, why why

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<v Speaker 1>have you been able to do that and adjust to

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<v Speaker 1>that so well at a young age.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it just comes from my amateur background,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'll always would travel to the tournaments and

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<v Speaker 2>and uh as an amateur, I fought and hungry and

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<v Speaker 2>hungry Budapest, you know, I fought in in a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot of different places, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've always said, you know, I'm with my skills

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<v Speaker 2>and the work I put in and in the way

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<v Speaker 2>I'm able to stay focused and and and stay ten

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<v Speaker 2>toes down and just put me in a boxing ring

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<v Speaker 2>it no.

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<v Speaker 1>Matter where it's have gloves will travel.

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<v Speaker 2>Right exactly do what I do and then and that

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<v Speaker 2>that's just what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. I feel like no matter like.

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<v Speaker 2>This, you know, And I got to think match Match

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<v Speaker 2>is in an amazing job and getting me on all

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<v Speaker 2>these big shows and getting me the right experience, disabiliting

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<v Speaker 2>me to be ready when I get these world title shots.

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<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned about how you've traveled around your opponent Celeski.

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<v Speaker 1>He's from Poland and he's traveled a number of times

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<v Speaker 1>fought in the United States. Now he's coming to your

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<v Speaker 1>home area. And when I look at your your your

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<v Speaker 1>list of fights you have fought, like for example Cosaras,

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<v Speaker 1>who fought for a world title, But it seems to

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<v Speaker 1>me that Celeski is by far and away your biggest

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<v Speaker 1>step and step up in terms of your opposition. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, do you agree with that that he's your

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<v Speaker 1>biggest step up? When I look over the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>your list of fights, he seems to stand out as

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<v Speaker 1>the best guy he so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think on paper, he for sure is the

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<v Speaker 2>best fighter that I've faced up to now.

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<v Speaker 3>But like competition wise, you know, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Won't really know what I'm in there with him, So

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm going in expecting the best Lechi ever,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what it is. You know, I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>the best day of the checko comes Saturday, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just feel like Selecki has never been in there with

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<v Speaker 2>a power punch like me, who's six flooring can box

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked you about that because his his his resume,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, other than the only two blemishes on his

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<v Speaker 1>record are against guys that were at the top, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>top level of fighters. Daniel Jacobs, who was a multi

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<v Speaker 1>time are a middleway, former middleweight title holder and one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best for a period of time. That was

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<v Speaker 1>all the way back in twenty eighteen he went to

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<v Speaker 1>distance and then the only other fight we went to

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<v Speaker 1>distance on a matchrom card as a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>against Demetris Andre in a WBO middleweight title fight in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen. Other than that, guy's never lost. He's won

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<v Speaker 1>four fights in a row. He's been at super middleweight.

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<v Speaker 1>This will be his third fight in the way class.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you analyze him, what is your take on

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<v Speaker 1>his ability, what he brings, and what you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be careful of.

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<v Speaker 2>Every every fighter is a dangerous fighter, especially when he

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<v Speaker 2>has the experience and he's a veteran and he's been

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<v Speaker 2>in there with with a lot of champions. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, guys who've been at the top. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's obviously a dangerous fighter, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've I strongly feel that I'm the more skilled fighter.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'm a better fighter than Daniel Jacobs

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<v Speaker 3>and blub One dry to.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I feel like my skill set and the

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<v Speaker 2>way I'm able to pick it up and bring it

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<v Speaker 2>back down and just change rhythms and use my length

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<v Speaker 2>and my legs and everything put together. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just a complete fighter and I'm able to adapt.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm able to change my game plan mid fight.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm able to box and move or a step to

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean, so, I just I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>Now, when he fought against Demetris Andred, he did get

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<v Speaker 1>knocked down in that fight, but he didn't get stopped,

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<v Speaker 1>and he didn't get stopped by Jacobs, who was a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous puncher out one hundred and sixty pounds. And so

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<v Speaker 1>if Diego Pacheco can become the first man, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>winning obviously is the most significant thing, of course for anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you could be the first guy to stop

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<v Speaker 1>him of the guys the type of opponents that he

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<v Speaker 1>has faced, how how big of a deal would that

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<v Speaker 1>be to you? Is that something that's in your mind

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<v Speaker 1>at all, or is it just a matter of like

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<v Speaker 1>I got to win and I get the knockout, so

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<v Speaker 1>be it.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely obviously want to want to get the knockout, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to give the people up performers that I'll

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<v Speaker 2>moving forward and get these bigger fights. But like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, once I'm in there, man, I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 2>go at distance or or if I step to them

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<v Speaker 2>and get them out of there, man, it doesn't really

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I want to get that win on my on.

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<v Speaker 2>My record, and obviously you know I was on a

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<v Speaker 2>want to get back to my knockout ways.

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<v Speaker 3>But obviously the most important thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Is going to w all right, So I'll just wrap

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<v Speaker 1>up with this then. I mean, you we mentioned before

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<v Speaker 1>you fight in a way class where it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hard to get the title fight because of the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you got one man in Canelo Alvarez, who holds

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<v Speaker 1>three of the titles on the other one, which was

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<v Speaker 1>as vacated, is you know, going to be up for

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<v Speaker 1>grabs in a fight that's coming up, So no no

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<v Speaker 1>openings if you will. But I wonder from your perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, of course, Canelo was like the the the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that everybody wants to fight in and around super middleweight.

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<v Speaker 1>But is that sort of like is he your ultimate

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<v Speaker 1>goal or is like, what is the other big fight?

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<v Speaker 1>Because in your weight class, there's lots of other good

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<v Speaker 1>fighters you got, like we just as an example, we

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<v Speaker 1>saw Christian and Billy with a win last week. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a top fighter. Mongia, is there your Mattroom stable mate, Berlanga.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got the fight coming up against Canelo. He's in

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<v Speaker 1>the weight class. So tell me how that shakes out, man.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's I feel like it's in an amazing time

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, from my last two or three.

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<v Speaker 2>Fights, I've been trying to get these big, big fights

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<v Speaker 2>with the guys who are ranked high up there, so

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<v Speaker 2>I can, you know, get to that world title shot

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<v Speaker 2>sooner than later. But obviously, you know it's hard to

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<v Speaker 2>make the fights. Like you said, some making fights.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't the easiest thing. And and I'm only twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Three years old, you know, so I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>have time to fight all those guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, you know I won't go like Mungia. Even the

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<v Speaker 3>guy Mugia is fighting the Canadian fighter, Eric Bazinier.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a good fighter. So there's another great fight. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Billy after Berlanga. There's a ton of names, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. So hopefully after this fight started

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<v Speaker 2>next year, you know, we'll well, we'll start getting closer

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<v Speaker 2>and closer to that well title fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm looking forward first and foremost of senior fight

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<v Speaker 1>so Leski on Saturday, and I wish you nothing but

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<v Speaker 1>the best of luck in that fight in Diego. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much for doing this today. Appreciate your fight.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Dan, I appreciate it. You bet