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<v Speaker 1>Whispers in the dark. Night shows vanished like a phantom's breath.

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<v Speaker 2>Where did they go?

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<v Speaker 1>Onlycos no mystery? Wrapped and cold solid.

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<v Speaker 3>Death streets dezard it net gost caught, footsteps.

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<v Speaker 4>Fad into thin air. Honey tells that keep on crawling

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<v Speaker 4>in life just vanished. No signs nowhere, gollic cor tracemens a.

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<v Speaker 5>Morning, secrets hidden in the mist, See starts, taste, keeps

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<v Speaker 5>the fire burning, rare shoes.

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<v Speaker 6>Hello friends. According to NamUs, over six hundred thousand individuals

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<v Speaker 6>go missing in the United States every year. Think about

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<v Speaker 6>that number, six hundred thousand. That's enough to fill several

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<v Speaker 6>stadiums and more than enough to empty the city of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Now. Fortunately,

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<v Speaker 6>many missing children as well as adults are found quickly,

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<v Speaker 6>alive and well. However, tens of thousands of individuals remain

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<v Speaker 6>missing for more than one year, what many agencies consider

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<v Speaker 6>cold cases. By some estimates, perhaps as many as sixteen

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<v Speaker 6>hundreds of these disappearances are within the US National Park System.

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<v Speaker 6>Whereas the National Park System encompasses more than eighty four

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<v Speaker 6>million acres of forest, mountains, deserts, and other wilderness areas,

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<v Speaker 6>it's easy to see where these numbers come from. What's

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<v Speaker 6>really puzzling, though, are the circumstances behind these disappearances, which,

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<v Speaker 6>in many instances are beyond the bizarre. In this video,

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<v Speaker 6>the ninth in our ongoing series, we'll discuss ten more

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<v Speaker 6>of the strangest disappearances in not only our national parks

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<v Speaker 6>in the US, but some from abroad as well, which

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<v Speaker 6>points to this being a global issue. Now, let's begin

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<v Speaker 6>number ten. Tom Simon Seth, sixty six year old Tom

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<v Speaker 6>Simon Seth was last seen on May twenty second, twenty

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<v Speaker 6>twenty one, in North Cascades National Park, located in Cedro

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<v Speaker 6>Wooley s Gadget County, Washington. According to friends and family,

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<v Speaker 6>Tom left on the morning of May twenty second, telling

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<v Speaker 6>his wife that he would be hiking up the Hidden

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<v Speaker 6>Lake Trio. However, by seven pm, Tom still hadn't arrived home,

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<v Speaker 6>and Tom's wife rose holding the help of a friend,

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<v Speaker 6>Mike Woodmancy, to help look for him. Tom had taken

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<v Speaker 6>up hiking in the past eighteen months, and it had

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<v Speaker 6>quickly become his new retirement hobby, according to those closest

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<v Speaker 6>to him, and he often hiked with Mike Woodmansey and

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<v Speaker 6>another close friend Mark Nelson. Tom had been invited to

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<v Speaker 6>hike with Mike and Mark on the weekend that he disappeared,

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<v Speaker 6>but he had declined, opting to go alone. When Tom

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<v Speaker 6>hadn't returned home, Rose contented Mike to go up onto

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<v Speaker 6>the trail and see if he could spot him, thinking

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<v Speaker 6>he may have gotten lost or injured. However, as the

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<v Speaker 6>hours passed and the darkness drew in, Mike knew that

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<v Speaker 6>Tom's chances of survival were slim. He told Fox thirteen

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<v Speaker 6>he was absolutely not prepared to be out overnight. He

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<v Speaker 6>just had day hiking equipment, so that's why we had

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<v Speaker 6>to jump on it and get out there. Between ten

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<v Speaker 6>pm and twelve midnight, Mike and Mark scoured the hidden

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<v Speaker 6>lake trail but found no sign of Tom. They slept

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<v Speaker 6>on the ground and resumed their search of for As

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<v Speaker 6>the morning sunlight slowly crept through the trees, they knew

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<v Speaker 6>that they needed help, and the Scadget County Sheriff's Office

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<v Speaker 6>were called and Tom was officially reported missing. The Scatget

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<v Speaker 6>County Sheriff's Office, accompanied by a Scadget County Search and

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<v Speaker 6>Rescue searched for Tom until May thirty, first, twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 6>when the search was officially called off due to treacherous

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<v Speaker 6>terrain and avalanche danger. Despite this, Tom's family still haven't

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<v Speaker 6>given up hope and have set up a GoFundMe page

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<v Speaker 6>to help the search continue. Number nine Adrian Alonzo Smith

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<v Speaker 6>Forty nine year old Adrian Alonzo Smith was last seen

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<v Speaker 6>on January ninth, twenty twenty one, after a friend dropped

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<v Speaker 6>him off at the Drift Creek Falls Trailhead and sees

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<v Speaker 6>Law National Forest, Oregon. The friend who dropped him off

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<v Speaker 6>said that Adrian had a backpack and a hammock and

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<v Speaker 6>planned to hike to other locations and stay overnight in

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<v Speaker 6>the park. On January twentieth, twenty twenty one, Adrian did

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<v Speaker 6>not show up for his scheduled pickup, and that's when

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<v Speaker 6>his friends and family began to worry. Adrian was reported

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<v Speaker 6>missing and search and rescue teams were dispatched to the trail,

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<v Speaker 6>but found no sign of him during the initial investigation.

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<v Speaker 6>Two weeks later, authorities discovered what they believed to be

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<v Speaker 6>his campsite. However, no other personal items were recovered from

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<v Speaker 6>the scene. Despite the use of drones, sniffer dogs, and

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<v Speaker 6>cell phone tracking, authorities have been unable to find any

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<v Speaker 6>trace of Adrian. One disturbing tip came into search and

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<v Speaker 6>rescue teams in the days following Adrian's disappearance. One witness

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<v Speaker 6>claimed to have seen Adrian's shirtless and the cold in

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<v Speaker 6>the days after he had gone missing, creating a very

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<v Speaker 6>warring scenario for friends and family. The search was temporarily

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<v Speaker 6>called off at the end of January due to heavy

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<v Speaker 6>snowfall and bad weather. Adrian is described as a white male,

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<v Speaker 6>six foot tall and one hundred and seventy pounds, with

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<v Speaker 6>brown shoulder lengthd hair and multiple tattoos, including a tattoo

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<v Speaker 6>of wings on his back. Authorities are asking for anyone

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<v Speaker 6>with information to contact him on five four to one

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<v Speaker 6>Josh Hall twenty seven year old Josh Hall, along with

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<v Speaker 6>his dog Happy, a Labrador mixed, set off on February third,

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<v Speaker 6>twenty twenty one for an eleven mile hike to the

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<v Speaker 6>Devil's Thumb Lake area in the Indian Peak's Wilderness Park.

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<v Speaker 6>Josh left his car at the Hessi trailhead set off

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<v Speaker 6>between ten thirty am and ten forty five am on

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<v Speaker 6>the morning of February third. The hike should have taken

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<v Speaker 6>Josh around five and a half to six hours, meaning

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<v Speaker 6>that he would have arrived back in his car at

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<v Speaker 6>around four pm, according to his mother. His mother also

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<v Speaker 6>told authorities that Josh had chosen to hike early in

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<v Speaker 6>the morning as he had an online class at five pm,

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<v Speaker 6>and when he didn't return home, she contacted the authorities.

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<v Speaker 6>According to his mother, Josh's phone pinged at twelve oh

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<v Speaker 6>three pm and in the approximate area of Devil's Thumb

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<v Speaker 6>Lake from twelve thirty pm to one fifteen pm, Hikers

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<v Speaker 6>in the area reported that a small snowstorm blew through,

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<v Speaker 6>leaving inches of snow on the trails within a matter

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<v Speaker 6>of minutes. It's believed that Josh was deep into the

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<v Speaker 6>trail when the snow rolled in. Authorities were contacted and

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<v Speaker 6>a team of seventy people made up of law enforcement

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<v Speaker 6>and experienced hikers, brave the cold to search for Josh,

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<v Speaker 6>battling their way through forty mile per hour winds. For

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<v Speaker 6>four days, volunteers and law enforcement searched high and low

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<v Speaker 6>for any sign of Josh, and on the fourth day

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<v Speaker 6>the search was called off due to the worsening weather conditions. Miraculously,

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<v Speaker 6>eight days later, on February eleventh, twenty twenty one, Josh's dog,

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<v Speaker 6>Happy was spotted on the side of a highway close

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<v Speaker 6>to where the two had been hiking. Happy was malnourished

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<v Speaker 6>and scared, but authorities were able to rescue him and

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<v Speaker 6>take him home to Josh's family. Sadly, nothing else has

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<v Speaker 6>been recovered, but Josh's family are not giving up hope.

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<v Speaker 6>Josh is described as a white male, six foot four

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<v Speaker 6>inches tall and weighs two hundred pounds. He was last

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<v Speaker 6>seen wearing a green khaki jacket, dark hat, and a

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<v Speaker 6>gray green backpack. If you have any information, you're asked

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<v Speaker 6>to contact the Boulder County Dispatch on three zero three

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<v Speaker 6>or four one or four or four number seven. Cassie Sheets.

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<v Speaker 6>On March twelfth, twenty twenty one, twenty four year old

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<v Speaker 6>Cassie Sheets was reported missing after last being seen hiking

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<v Speaker 6>in the Monongahela National Forest in West Virginia. Cassie, along

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<v Speaker 6>with two male friends, had begun their hik on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 6>March eleventh, with the two friends claiming that they were

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<v Speaker 6>separated along the spruce trail. Sergeant Andrew Teeter of the

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<v Speaker 6>West Virginia State Police told Metro News they started down

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<v Speaker 6>a huckleberry trail from the top of Spruce and that's

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<v Speaker 6>where they claimed they got separated from each other. The

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<v Speaker 6>trio set off hiking on Thursday night into what is

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<v Speaker 6>described as a remote part of the forest. After the

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<v Speaker 6>trio became separated, the two friends made their way back

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<v Speaker 6>to safety and waited until Friday morning to report Cassie missing.

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<v Speaker 6>Search teams, including volunteer firefighters and the West Virginia State Police,

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<v Speaker 6>use the helicopter and attempts to locate the missing twenty

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<v Speaker 6>four year old girl. However, nothing was found. In June

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<v Speaker 6>twenty twenty one, the state police made a statement saying

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<v Speaker 6>that they were no longer actively searching for Cassie, but

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<v Speaker 6>were following lines of inquiry. In their statement, they also

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<v Speaker 6>said that they are not speaking with the two male

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<v Speaker 6>friends who were with Cassie on that hike, as one

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<v Speaker 6>of them has obtained a lawyer. They also stressed that

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<v Speaker 6>all leads are based on speculation and they have no

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<v Speaker 6>concrete evidence. In Cassie's case, Cassie did not know the

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<v Speaker 6>trail well and her family are concerned about her well being.

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<v Speaker 6>If you have any information, you're asked to contact the

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<v Speaker 6>West Virginia State Police Number six. Cayman Welch. The Maricopa

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<v Speaker 6>County Sheriff's Office is appealing for any information about the

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<v Speaker 6>disappearance of twenty five year old Cayman Welch. Cayman was

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<v Speaker 6>last seen near Weaver's Needle Vista at mile Post two

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<v Speaker 6>O three in State Route eighty eight in Maricopa County, Arizona,

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<v Speaker 6>on August twelfth, twenty twenty. Caman has spent the day

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<v Speaker 6>working with his uncle and Tortilla flats, and on the

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<v Speaker 6>drive home, they decided to pull into Weaver's Needle Vista

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<v Speaker 6>to watch the sunset together. According to Cayman's uncle, he

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<v Speaker 6>told him he wanted to watch the sunset from the needle.

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<v Speaker 6>He proceeded to get out of the car, walk into

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<v Speaker 6>the Tonto National Forest and promptly disappeared. Tonto National Forest

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<v Speaker 6>spans a whopping two million, eight hundred and seventy three

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<v Speaker 6>thy two hundred acres and is the fifth largest national

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<v Speaker 6>forest in the United States. The forest offers a wide

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<v Speaker 6>variety of scenery, from desert flats to pine forest, making

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<v Speaker 6>it the perfect destination no matter what you're looking for.

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<v Speaker 6>Cayman walked into the Tonto National Force wearing nothing but

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<v Speaker 6>a black Ghostbusters T shirt, black jeans, black prescription glasses,

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<v Speaker 6>and army boots. He didn't take any food or water

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<v Speaker 6>with him, and he was in no way equipped to

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<v Speaker 6>deal with the sweltering temperatures that reached approximately one hundred

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<v Speaker 6>and ten degrees in the area that day. When Kiman

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<v Speaker 6>didn't return home, his family reported him missing and an

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<v Speaker 6>investigation was quickly launched. Despite searchus using sniffer dogs, horses, drones, helicopters,

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<v Speaker 6>and countless volunteers, no sign of Cayman was found. Kieman's

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<v Speaker 6>family were also worried for his well being, as he

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<v Speaker 6>suffered from depression that was in the process of seeking help.

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<v Speaker 6>Caiman is described as a white male with brown hair

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<v Speaker 6>and hazel eyes. He is six foot tall, two hundred

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<v Speaker 6>pounds and has full sleeves, tattoos on his arms, and

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<v Speaker 6>also has gauged out ear lobes. Kieman's family haven't given

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<v Speaker 6>up hope, and if you have any information, you're asked

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<v Speaker 6>to contact the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office. On sixt zero two,

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<v Speaker 6>Samuel Martinez. Twenty three year old Samuel Martinez left his

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<v Speaker 6>home in Nebraska on May twelfth, twenty twenty one, headed

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<v Speaker 6>for Kawai, Hawaii. We know that Samuel safely board his

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<v Speaker 6>flight from Nebraska to Kawai and landed that day. Samuel

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<v Speaker 6>had embarked on the trip with the intention of hiking

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<v Speaker 6>and camping around the island, with his return flight booked

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<v Speaker 6>for May twenty fifth to twenty twenty one. May twenty

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<v Speaker 6>fifth came, and when Samuel didn't board his flight to

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<v Speaker 6>go home, his family became concerned. After contacting authorities in Kawai,

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<v Speaker 6>their investigation uncovered that the last confirmed sighting of the

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<v Speaker 6>twenty three year old had been on May fourteenth, twenty

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<v Speaker 6>twenty one, and since that date there was no activity

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<v Speaker 6>on his phone or on his bank cards. Authorities began

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<v Speaker 6>their search after Samuel was reported missing, using helicopters to

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<v Speaker 6>navigate their way around the island. However, by June third,

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<v Speaker 6>this search was suspended. According to one source, searches with

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<v Speaker 6>dogs and drones are due to continue in the near future.

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<v Speaker 6>Samuel's family made an official statement to Omaha reporters saying

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<v Speaker 6>one one seven one number four. Stanley Shushinoff, sixty eight

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<v Speaker 6>Stanley was only going on a short hike and it

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<v Speaker 6>in extensive search. However, they came out empty handed. The

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<v Speaker 6>anyone with information to please come forward. Robert is described

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<v Speaker 6>He weighs one hundred and sixty pounds and was last

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<v Speaker 6>number two. Damon Ness, thirty year old. Damon Ness was

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<v Speaker 6>and was never seen again, prompting twenty eight police officers,

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<v Speaker 6>park razors and countless volunteers to begin the search for him.

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<v Speaker 6>Damon set off on his walk with nothing but his

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<v Speaker 6>Daily Mail he doesn't have his wallet. We have that.

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<v Speaker 6>twenty twenty. Authorities searched for five days with druges and

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<v Speaker 6>thirty year old were found. Damon's family wanted to fly

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<v Speaker 6>since October twenty twenty, and Australian authorities are appealing to

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<v Speaker 6>anyone with information to contact number one. Rob Martin. Fifty

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<v Speaker 6>nine year old Rob Martin was last seen on Dvenal

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<v Speaker 6>Road on John's Island in Charleston County, South Carolina. John's

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<v Speaker 6>for its agriculture and angeloak, a tree that has estimated

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<v Speaker 6>it to be possibly fifteen hundred years old. The details

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<v Speaker 6>in Rod's case are extremely limited, but it's important that

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<v Speaker 6>we spread awareness about this case and help bring him home.

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<v Speaker 6>According to the Charleston County Sheriff's Office, Rod was last

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<v Speaker 6>seen on foot on January tenth, twenty twenty one, wearing

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<v Speaker 6>a burgundy jacket with an orange lining. He's described as

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<v Speaker 6>a white male, six foot tall, two hundred pounds. He

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<v Speaker 6>the Johns Island area. According to an article written on

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<v Speaker 6>January tenth, twenty twenty one, bile play is not suspected

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<v Speaker 6>at this time, and the Charleston County Sheriff's Office needs

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<v Speaker 6>you as to please contact him on eight four to

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<v Speaker 6>there you have it, friends, what do you make of

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<v Speaker 6>these strange disappearances from within these national parks. I look

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<v Speaker 6>forward to your thoughts in the comment section. Meanwhile, until

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<v Speaker 6>we meet again, because you sell and each other. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>Steve Stockton and I'll talk to you next time. Hello, friends,

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<v Speaker 6>welcome to episode ten of our Unsolved National Park Disappearances.

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<v Speaker 6>This video will bring you ten more insolved cases of

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<v Speaker 6>people who went missing in national parks. Let's begin number ten.

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<v Speaker 6>Sean McLaughlin. Twenty seven year old Sean McLaughlin was last

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<v Speaker 6>seen on June eighth, twenty twenty one, by another hiker

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<v Speaker 6>who told police that he saw a man fitting sean

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<v Speaker 6>description in the park. Shawn had recently moved from his

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<v Speaker 6>home in Dublin, Ireland, to Jackson, Wyoming, and was working

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<v Speaker 6>to help support his adventures. Shawn's last moments are contested

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<v Speaker 6>and accounts differ. An article written by The Irish Times

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<v Speaker 6>wrote that the witness last saw Sean near the Surprise

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<v Speaker 6>Lake junction, heading into Garnet Canyon, whereas another article written

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<v Speaker 6>by The Independent claims the witness last saw Sewn on

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<v Speaker 6>the south side of the Bradley Taggart Moraine and that

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<v Speaker 6>he was headed towards Taggart Lane. Shawn was officially reported

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<v Speaker 6>missing on June twelfth, after he filled a turn up

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<v Speaker 6>for his scheduled shift as a snowboard instructor on June tenth,

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<v Speaker 6>twenty twenty one, and at full investigation was launched. A

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<v Speaker 6>day later, his car was found abandoned near the Lupine

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<v Speaker 6>Metas trailhead. Park rangers and investigators pulled together their resources

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<v Speaker 6>to widen their search. A gofunding campaign was set up

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<v Speaker 6>two days after his disappearance to help fly his mother, Grona,

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<v Speaker 6>from Dublin to Jackson. This campaign raised over forty six

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<v Speaker 6>Becka Jostad, the acting chief ranger of Grand Teton National Park,

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<v Speaker 6>told Irish Central mental health has not been a feature

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<v Speaker 6>of the profile that we developed to try and understand

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<v Speaker 6>where he might be. This looked like an afternoon, simple

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<v Speaker 6>open mind about where he might have gone, so we're

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<v Speaker 6>looking in all the possible places. Sean McLaughlin was last

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<v Speaker 6>seen wearing a white shirt, shorts and a hat. As

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<v Speaker 6>described as a male solo hiker with shoulder linked hair,

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<v Speaker 6>and he was also wearing round glasses. Despite searching over

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<v Speaker 6>three hundred thousand acres with Grand Teeton Park, no sign

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<v Speaker 6>of Sean McLaughlin has been found. If you have any information,

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<v Speaker 6>please contact the Grand Teton Park Rangers on three zero

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<v Speaker 6>seven seven thirty nine three three zero zero number nine.

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<v Speaker 6>Tatum morrell Y three year old Tatum Morrell, a Montana

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<v Speaker 6>July first, twenty twenty one via a satellite communicator. According

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<v Speaker 6>to k TVQ, Tatum, efficially known to her family as Tate,

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<v Speaker 6>had set up camp at Shadow Lake, close to the

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<v Speaker 6>West Fort Trail near Red Lodge in the Custer Galaton

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<v Speaker 6>National Forest in Montana. The Custer Galaton National Force both

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<v Speaker 6>an area of over three million acres and seven ranger districts.

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<v Speaker 6>According to the website, the forest has gateways to Yellowstone

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<v Speaker 6>National Park and has activities for everyone to enjoy. Search

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<v Speaker 6>As believed that Tatum left her tenth on the morning

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<v Speaker 6>of July second, twenty twenty one, and was planning on

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<v Speaker 6>scaling a twelve thousand foot peak that day when she

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<v Speaker 6>failed to return. And had made contact with her family.

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<v Speaker 6>By July fifth, twenty twenty one, they called park rangers

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<v Speaker 6>and officially reported her missing. During their investigation, authorities found

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<v Speaker 6>that Tatum had planned to scale five mountain peaks during

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<v Speaker 6>a triptum. We told the newspapers that she was indeed

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<v Speaker 6>an avid hiker, an outdoors woman, and had been training

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<v Speaker 6>her whole life to scale these peaks. In a statement,

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<v Speaker 6>they also added Tate was a fiercely independent, adventurous soul

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<v Speaker 6>who loved the mountains. Search and rescue teams were dispatched

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<v Speaker 6>on July fifth to twenty twenty one. However, so far,

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<v Speaker 6>no sign of Tatum has been found. Incident Commander Tom

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<v Speaker 6>Cooks believes that Tatum is no longer live, telling reporters, Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 6>there are hundreds of thousands of places that Tate could

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<v Speaker 6>have gotten into trouble on these rugged mountains when the

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<v Speaker 6>storms came into the area on Friday. After the extens

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<v Speaker 6>of search efforts, we do not believe she survived. The

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<v Speaker 6>search for Tatum Morrell will continue with a much smaller

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<v Speaker 6>scale back team. Number eight. Ralph Elliot, fifty one year

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<v Speaker 6>old Ralph Elliot was last seen on April twenty second,

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<v Speaker 6>twenty twenty one, after he left for a day hike

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<v Speaker 6>in Yosemite National Park, California. Sadly, there's very little information

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<v Speaker 6>about Ralph's case, but his story is still important and

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<v Speaker 6>it is important that we keep his case alive. According

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<v Speaker 6>to the Fresno b newspaper, Ralph was intending to hike

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<v Speaker 6>to the Yosemite Fall Overlook, an eagle peak in the

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<v Speaker 6>Yosemite National Park. Authorities are concerned for his well being,

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<v Speaker 6>and the Park Service are noted as saying that they

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<v Speaker 6>believe he may be in a state of emotional distress

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<v Speaker 6>incapable of harming himself. The Yosemite Park Service has declined

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<v Speaker 6>to comment on whighly believe that Ralph is in such

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<v Speaker 6>a state of emotional distress, but they have asked anyone

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<v Speaker 6>who comes into contact with him to bear this in mind.

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<v Speaker 6>Ralph Elliot is described as a white male with a

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<v Speaker 6>a beard, and long gray hair. He was last seen

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<v Speaker 6>wearing earth tone clothing and if you have any information,

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<v Speaker 6>nine three seven nine one nine ninety two. Charles Lyon

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<v Speaker 6>forty nine year old Charles Lyon was last seen on

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<v Speaker 6>June tenth, twenty twenty one, at the Best Western Hotel

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<v Speaker 6>in Tucion, Arizona. Charles had been staying there ahead of

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<v Speaker 6>his trip to the Grand Canyon and has not been

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<v Speaker 6>seen since. Newspapers report that Charles is from Tyler, Texas

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<v Speaker 6>and was making the trip to the Grand Canyon alone.

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<v Speaker 6>Authorities are becoming increasingly concerned for his well being. The

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<v Speaker 6>of four thousand, nine hundred and twenty six kilometers squared

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<v Speaker 6>as over two million visitors per year. Most tourists visit

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<v Speaker 6>the sprawling national Park to take a look at the

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<v Speaker 6>Grand Canyon, one point six kilometer deep and twenty six

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<v Speaker 6>kilometer mile wide geographic feature. The terrain can be challenging

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<v Speaker 6>when paired with the Arizona heat, and hikers advised to

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<v Speaker 6>on June tenth, twenty twenty one, with him being officially

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<v Speaker 6>reported missing on June fourteenth, twenty twenty one. As of

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<v Speaker 6>this writing, Charles Lyne is still missing and the Grand

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<v Speaker 6>Canyon National Park is currently under Stage two fire restrictions

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<v Speaker 6>due to swelling temperatures of one hundred and fifteen degrees fahrenheit.

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<v Speaker 6>Charles is described as a white male six feet tall,

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<v Speaker 6>weighs one hundred and seventy seven pounds. He has brown

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<v Speaker 6>hair and brown eyes. Anyone with information is as to

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<v Speaker 6>contact the Grand Canyon Rangers on eight eight eight sixty

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<v Speaker 6>five three zero zero zero nine, number six Shawn Higgins.

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<v Speaker 6>On October fourteenth, twenty sixteen, Shawn Higgins, along with his

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<v Speaker 6>twenty one year old son Trevor, and travel's uncle, no

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<v Speaker 6>name was provided for the uncle, headed out to the

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<v Speaker 6>Shasta Costa Drainage in the Bear Camp area in Oregon

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<v Speaker 6>per day of hunting. The three men had no idea

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<v Speaker 6>of the tragedy that was about to unfold that day,

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<v Speaker 6>and to them, it started out just like any other

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<v Speaker 6>hunting trip they had been on. Sean and Trevor agreed

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<v Speaker 6>to go their separate ways and meet back at the

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<v Speaker 6>car later on in the day to discuss today's activities

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<v Speaker 6>and to collect Trevor's uncle again. This is Shawn's brother.

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<v Speaker 6>His name was never given in the reports. The men

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<v Speaker 6>parted ways, not knowing it would be the last time

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<v Speaker 6>they would ever see Sean alive. Shawn's wife, Stephanie told

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<v Speaker 6>the NBC News Sean was on a footpath that ran

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<v Speaker 6>alongside a road. He's an outdoorsman who knew the area,

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<v Speaker 6>and he knew Trevor was waiting for him. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>make any sense that he didn't make it out that

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<v Speaker 6>evening on the day of his disappearance. Seawan had left

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<v Speaker 6>his backpack and GPS device behind as he was only

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<v Speaker 6>hunting a short distance away from the car. As we said,

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<v Speaker 6>Sean was a very experienced outdoorsman and knew the area well,

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<v Speaker 6>according to his family, in his mind, there was no

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<v Speaker 6>reason to take it. When Shawn Feld returned to the truck,

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<v Speaker 6>Trevor and Trevor's uncle knew that something was very, very wrong.

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<v Speaker 6>They split up and immediately began searching for him. However,

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<v Speaker 6>during this search, Trevor also got lost. Shawn had passed

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<v Speaker 6>down his wealth of knowledge to his son, and Trevor

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<v Speaker 6>was able to make a shelter and wait out. Tonight,

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<v Speaker 6>Shawn's brother, Trevor's uncle, raised the alarm after Trevor also

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<v Speaker 6>failed to return to the truck. Now with two missing

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<v Speaker 6>family members, he called the authorities and a wide scale

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<v Speaker 6>search began. Thankfully, on the fourth day of the search

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<v Speaker 6>and rescue operation, Trevor was found two and a half

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<v Speaker 6>miles away. Trevor had suffered severe hypothermia due to the

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<v Speaker 6>cold and wet conditions, but was otherwise okay. Sadly, neither

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<v Speaker 6>Trevor nor the search and rescue teams found any sign

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<v Speaker 6>of Sean. Cruise utilized drones, helicopters, and dog units, but

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<v Speaker 6>still they found nothing, and by October twenty fifth, the

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<v Speaker 6>search had officially been suspended. As of this writing in

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<v Speaker 6>twenty twenty one, Seawn Higgins is still missing and authorities

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<v Speaker 6>are no closer to solving the case. Number five Daileen Poah,

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<v Speaker 6>Eighteen year old Daileen Puah was lasting on February twenty seventh,

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<v Speaker 6>twenty fifteen, after he had set out to hike the

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<v Speaker 6>High Coup Stairs also known as the Stairway to Heaven

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<v Speaker 6>Way in Nay Hawaii. The High Coup Stairs are one

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<v Speaker 6>of Hawaii's most dangerous trails. Some of the steps have

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<v Speaker 6>been heavily damaged by winds and rain, and it is

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<v Speaker 6>not a trail that's recommended for first time hikers. The

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<v Speaker 6>trail's been officially closed since nineteen eighty seven, with the

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<v Speaker 6>Hawaiian Police Department handing out fine so up to one

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<v Speaker 6>thousand dollars to trespassers. However, this has done little to

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<v Speaker 6>deterre thrill seekers. Even in twenty twenty one, people are

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<v Speaker 6>still attempting to make the hike, despite several warnings from

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<v Speaker 6>the Hawaiian PD and the Hawaiian government. At the time

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<v Speaker 6>of his disappearance, Dayleen was visiting his grandma and had

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<v Speaker 6>told her about his intentions to climb the stairs. His

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<v Speaker 6>grandma warned him that the trail was closed and then

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<v Speaker 6>he would be met with police officers waiting to find

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<v Speaker 6>or arrest him. Despite this, Dayleen boarded a bus on

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<v Speaker 6>February twenty seventh, twenty fifteen, and told his grandma he

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<v Speaker 6>was going on a hike. The last confirmed movements of

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<v Speaker 6>Dayleen are at around eleven am, when he takes a

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<v Speaker 6>picture of himself on the hiking trail to his family.

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<v Speaker 6>The photo shows a wooded area, but Eagle Eid online

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<v Speaker 6>investigators have spotted an unknown man squatting in the bushes

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<v Speaker 6>very chilly. After this, Dayleen was never seen or heard

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<v Speaker 6>from again. When Dayleen failed to return to his grandma's house,

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<v Speaker 6>she called authorities and a search and rescue party was

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<v Speaker 6>dispatched to the forbidden trail. Despite the efforts of hundreds

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<v Speaker 6>of volunteers, drones, and the US Navy, no sign of

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<v Speaker 6>Daileen has ever been found. Volunteers even repelled down the

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<v Speaker 6>six hundred foot drop where Dayleen's last photograph was taken,

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<v Speaker 6>but sadly they found nothing. The Hawaiian police are now

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<v Speaker 6>asking for the public's help and identifying the mysterious man

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<v Speaker 6>in the photo, and online sleuths have speculated that this

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<v Speaker 6>man may have been following Dayleen. Dayleen is the described

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<v Speaker 6>as a male Pacific Islander with black hair and brown eyes.

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<v Speaker 6>He's five to seven and weighs one hundred and fifty pounds.

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<v Speaker 6>If you have any information regarding this case, you're asked

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<v Speaker 6>to contact the Honolulu Police Department on eight zero eight

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<v Speaker 6>five two nine three one one one number four. Todd

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<v Speaker 6>Gabe twenty two year old Todd Guibe was last seen

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<v Speaker 6>on Sunday, June sixth, two thousand and five, when he

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<v Speaker 6>was attending a party in a field in Casanovia, Michigan.

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<v Speaker 6>Todd had been attending the cake party with friends, and

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<v Speaker 6>up until around twelve forty five am, nothing seemed out

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<v Speaker 6>of the ordinary. According to his family and friends, Todd

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<v Speaker 6>was a normal twenty two year old man. He liked

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<v Speaker 6>socializing with his friends after hard day's work. His family

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<v Speaker 6>have also noted that Todd did not suffer from depression

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<v Speaker 6>or any other mental health disorders, a fact that will

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<v Speaker 6>become very important later on in this case. At twelve

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<v Speaker 6>forty seven am on Sunday, June fifth, two thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 6>Todd plays a several folk call, with the first being

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<v Speaker 6>to the person that had dropped him off at the

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00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:06.119
<v Speaker 6>keg party. According to this friend, Todd told him that

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<v Speaker 6>he'd quote had enough that he was going to walk home.

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<v Speaker 6>The next call was at twelve fifty one am, but

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00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:16.960
<v Speaker 6>this time all Todd said was I'm in a field concerned.

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<v Speaker 6>The friend called him back, but all he heard on

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<v Speaker 6>the other end of the phone was what sounded like

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<v Speaker 6>heavy breathing. Or perhaps the wind. The last set of

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<v Speaker 6>calls were made between twelve fifty one am and twelve

528
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<v Speaker 6>fifty seven am, when Todd tried to call his friend,

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<v Speaker 6>but he was unable to get through. After this last

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00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:36.160
<v Speaker 6>call attempt, there's been no further activity on Todd's phone.

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<v Speaker 6>Search and rescue teams were dispatched after todd Filter return

532
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:43.720
<v Speaker 6>home from the party. In total, fifteen hundred volunteers turned

533
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<v Speaker 6>out to help search for the missing twenty two year old.

534
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<v Speaker 6>Even with the assistance of helicopters and police units, no

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<v Speaker 6>sign of Todd was found. That was until July second,

536
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<v Speaker 6>two thousand and five, when Todd's body was discovered standing

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00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.119
<v Speaker 6>almost upright in a pond that wasn't too far from

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<v Speaker 6>where the party had taken place. Investigators were puzzled as

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<v Speaker 6>to how they could have missed him, as the area

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<v Speaker 6>around the party had been searched extensively. Todd's head and

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<v Speaker 6>shoulders round the water, and the corner noted that he

542
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<v Speaker 6>was not in an advanced state of decomposition, something that

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<v Speaker 6>would have been expected as he had been missing for

544
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<v Speaker 6>over three weeks. The corner ruled that Tod's cause of

545
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:25.119
<v Speaker 6>death was drowning, but that the manner of death was undetermined.

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<v Speaker 6>Todd's family were obviously unhappy with these findings. However, the

547
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:32.960
<v Speaker 6>police stuck by the story and Todd's case was considered closed.

548
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<v Speaker 6>In two thousand and nine, doctor Michael Sekersa, who was

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<v Speaker 6>a friendsic pathologist and the CEO of Forensic Identification and

550
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<v Speaker 6>Profiling Laboratory, reviewed Todd's case. Doctor Sekersa and his team

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<v Speaker 6>of experts found that Todd had no water in his

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<v Speaker 6>lungs and his post mortem index or PMI was listed

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<v Speaker 6>as between two to five days. Todd had been missing

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<v Speaker 6>for total of twenty one days, so what had happened?

555
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<v Speaker 6>Where had he been for all those other days? Now,

556
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<v Speaker 6>alcohol and antidepressant medication were found in Todd's system, and

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<v Speaker 6>after consulting with family members and checking health records, it

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<v Speaker 6>was found that Todd had not been prescribed such medication.

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<v Speaker 6>As if the recording of this episode, Todd's case is

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<v Speaker 6>still closed and the mystery remains. Many people believe that

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<v Speaker 6>Todd fell victim to the infamous Smiley Face killer or killers. However,

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<v Speaker 6>the Michigan State Police have declined to comment. If you

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<v Speaker 6>have any information regarding this case, you're asked to contact

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<v Speaker 6>the Michigan State Police on five one, seven two eight

565
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<v Speaker 6>four three seven four five number three. Jeffrey John Zoltowski

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<v Speaker 6>twenty three year old Jeffrey John Zultowski was last seen

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<v Speaker 6>on March thirty first, nineteen ninety three, as he was

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<v Speaker 6>hiking in the Wailua Valley in Molokai, Hawaii. Jeffrey was

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<v Speaker 6>a student at the Wayne State University in Detroit, and

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<v Speaker 6>when he wasn't studying, he spent his time volunteering at

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<v Speaker 6>the Veterans Hospital in various soup kitchens throughout the Detroit area.

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<v Speaker 6>According to those clo Jeffrey, he was loved by everyone

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<v Speaker 6>and was a popular football player in high school. On

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<v Speaker 6>the thirty first of March nineteen ninety three, while hiking,

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<v Speaker 6>Jeffrey signaled a Department of Land and Natural Resources helicopter

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<v Speaker 6>to come and vick him up from his location. He

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<v Speaker 6>told the crew on board that his feet were severely

578
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:19.239
<v Speaker 6>blistered and bleeding, and that he felt he was physically

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<v Speaker 6>unable to make the fourteen mile trek back into the city.

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<v Speaker 6>The pilot dismissed Jeffrey, telling him that he would not

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<v Speaker 6>take him back as it wasn't a life threatening emergency.

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<v Speaker 6>He did, however, take Jeffrey's backpack and told him that

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<v Speaker 6>he would leave it in the service hard form. For

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<v Speaker 6>forty one days, Jeffrey's sixty pound backpack laid unclaimed in

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<v Speaker 6>the yard before he was finally reported missing. There is

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<v Speaker 6>no information as to whether search and rescue teams were

587
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<v Speaker 6>sent to look for Jeffrey and his disappearance was pushed

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<v Speaker 6>to the side. In two thousand and one, a woman

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00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:52.400
<v Speaker 6>reported seeing a man matching Jeffrey's description begging for money

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<v Speaker 6>outside of a homeless shelter in Honolulu. This sighting has

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<v Speaker 6>never been verified, and people at the shelter said they

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<v Speaker 6>did not recognize Jeffrey when they were showing a picture

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<v Speaker 6>of him. As of this recording in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 6>Jeffrey is still missing and it seems there's little being

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<v Speaker 6>done to find him by law enforcement. Number two. Kenny

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<v Speaker 6>Veach Forty seven year old Kenny Veach mysteriously disappeared in

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<v Speaker 6>the Mohave Desert in Nevada on November fourteenth, twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 6>Kenny was hiking near Area fifty one. I was looking

599
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<v Speaker 6>for cave systems and mine shafts. Kenny has uploaded several

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<v Speaker 6>videos to his YouTube channel under the user name snake

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<v Speaker 6>Bitt McGee, where he describes entering a cave with an

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<v Speaker 6>M shaped opening. He wrote in one comment that ain't nothing.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a long distance hiker. One time, during one of

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<v Speaker 6>my hikes out by Nellis Air Force Base, I found

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<v Speaker 6>a hidden cave. The entrance to the cave was shaped

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<v Speaker 6>like a perfect capital M. I always enter every cave

607
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<v Speaker 6>I find, but as I began to enter this particular cave,

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<v Speaker 6>my whole body began to vibrate. Suddenly, I became very

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<v Speaker 6>scared and high tailed out of there. That was one

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<v Speaker 6>of the strangest thing that ever happened to me. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>these videos gained popularity following his mysterious disappearance, and in

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<v Speaker 6>these videos he does indeed talk about how his whole

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<v Speaker 6>body vibrated and he felt scared upon entering this mysterious

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<v Speaker 6>M cave armed with a gun and a camera this time,

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<v Speaker 6>Kenny headed back out to the M cave on November tenth,

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<v Speaker 6>twenty fourteen, hoping to get a better look inside. However,

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<v Speaker 6>Kenny never returned home. Although he was a very experienced

618
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<v Speaker 6>hiker and outdoorsman, Kenny rarely took a map or GPS

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<v Speaker 6>device with him on his house. According to his family,

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<v Speaker 6>on the day of his disappearance, he told him that

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<v Speaker 6>he would only be gone for a short overnight trip.

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<v Speaker 6>Then when he didn't return home, they immediately called the police.

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<v Speaker 6>Police volunteers, and search and rescue teams all scattered the

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<v Speaker 6>area where Kenny was last known to have been. On

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<v Speaker 6>November twenty second, twenty fourteen, volunteers found Kenny's phone. According

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<v Speaker 6>to those volunteers, the trail went cold soon after they

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<v Speaker 6>located his phone, and there have been no signs of

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<v Speaker 6>Kenny ever since. At the time of this episodis the

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<v Speaker 6>mysterious disappearance of Kenny Beach is very much alive in

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<v Speaker 6>true crime and paranormal circles, but it appears that we

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<v Speaker 6>are still no closer to uncovering the truth. Number One

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<v Speaker 6>Henry mccab thirty two year old Henry mcab of Moundsview, Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 6>was the last thing live on September sixth, twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 6>when he and two friends William Pappus Kennedy and Calvin Johnson,

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<v Speaker 6>spent the night party. At around two am. On September seventh,

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<v Speaker 6>Henry allegedly has to be dropped off at a Super

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<v Speaker 6>America gas station in Fridley, Minnesota. His two companions noted

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<v Speaker 6>this is odd as Henry's house was several miles in

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<v Speaker 6>the opposite direction. Nonetheless, they honored his wishes and dropped

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<v Speaker 6>him off at the gas station. The two friends also

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<v Speaker 6>took Henry's wallet and keys from him earlier in the

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<v Speaker 6>night to prevent him from buying any more drinks as

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<v Speaker 6>he was apparently very intoxicated. At two twenty eighth am,

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<v Speaker 6>Henry's wife received a disturbing phone call from her husband.

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<v Speaker 6>Henry was screaming down the phone, saying that someone had

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<v Speaker 6>shot him. Before the call disconnected. Henry tried to call

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<v Speaker 6>his wife again. However, he was met with her voicemail

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<v Speaker 6>as she was trying to call Henry's brother Tim. The

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<v Speaker 6>creepy voicemail captured high pitched moting and growling sounds along

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<v Speaker 6>with Henry screaming. Some of the audio is hard to

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<v Speaker 6>pick out due to the low call quality, however, but

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<v Speaker 6>at the end of the voicemail, a male voice can

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<v Speaker 6>be heard saying stop it before the voicemail disconnects.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a voicemail unlike anything you've ever heard before. There

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<v Speaker 7>are two minutes worth of noises, the bizarre ones with

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<v Speaker 7>very little actual talking. Authorities confirmed the disturbing middle of

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<v Speaker 7>the night call came from Henry McCabe's cell phone. It

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<v Speaker 7>was Labor Days, September seventh, at two twenty eight in

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<v Speaker 7>the morning. McCabe's worried wife heard the.

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<v Speaker 8>Message is and my cell phone connected.

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<v Speaker 7>Minnesota Community Policing Services is a nonprofit agency and acts

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<v Speaker 7>as a go between with police in the Liberian community.

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<v Speaker 7>The leader is trying to help the family makes some

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<v Speaker 7>sense of this recording.

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<v Speaker 9>The growls turned to high pitch molds so like he's

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<v Speaker 9>moaning in pain.

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<v Speaker 10>Like moaning in pain.

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<v Speaker 7>The torture drunks suddenly stop. There is silence. Then someone,

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<v Speaker 7>either Henry or another person says stop it.

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<v Speaker 8>I try to picture where he was, what it might

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<v Speaker 8>have been like, what circumstances would have made him sound

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<v Speaker 8>like that.

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<v Speaker 7>The voicemail is in star contrast to other articulate recordings

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<v Speaker 7>of McCabe speaking at an event. He's a state auditor.

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<v Speaker 6>What is it justification to do?

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<v Speaker 7>The message is one piece of evidence mounts view. Police

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<v Speaker 7>are reviewing. The police chief tells me. Even the FBI

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<v Speaker 7>is analyzing the recording and voices for clues. The chief

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<v Speaker 7>says the investigation took deputies here on Tuesday to Rice

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<v Speaker 7>Creek Park, which borders New Brighton, mounts View, and Fridley,

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<v Speaker 7>all areas where McKay was reported seen or a cell

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<v Speaker 7>phone ping placed him. Ramsey County water patrols searched but

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<v Speaker 7>came up empty.

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<v Speaker 6>When Henry's wife reported these calls, police began the search

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<v Speaker 6>for Henry. They searched Spring Lake Park, New Brighton as

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<v Speaker 6>the cause that Henry made pinged from these cell phone towers.

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<v Speaker 6>Despite an extensive search by land and air, there was

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<v Speaker 6>no trace of Henry to be found and the investigation

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<v Speaker 6>went cold. Then on November second, twenty fifteen, Henry's body

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<v Speaker 6>was discovered in Rush Lake, New Brighton, Minnesota. There were

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<v Speaker 6>no gunshot warns to Henry's body, and his cause of

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<v Speaker 6>death was ruled as drowning. Obviously, Henry's family do not

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<v Speaker 6>agree with this verdict and believe that the voicemail is

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<v Speaker 6>proof that Henry met with some sort of foul play

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<v Speaker 6>that night. Some people even believe that what Henry encountered

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<v Speaker 6>was not even here. If you have any information, you're

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<v Speaker 6>asked to contact the Ramsey County Sheriff's Office on sixty

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<v Speaker 6>five one seven six seven zero six four zero. Well there,

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<v Speaker 6>Cabet folks, what do you think of these mysterious unsolved cases?

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<v Speaker 6>Some of these simply defy description. I look forward to

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<v Speaker 6>your comments. We do ask that you please remain courteous

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<v Speaker 6>to the victims, the families and victims into the comments

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<v Speaker 6>of others. Thank you for listening. Until we meet again,

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<v Speaker 6>be good to yourselves and each other. I'm Steve Stockton

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<v Speaker 6>and I'll talk to you next time. Hello, friends, Steve

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<v Speaker 6>Stockton here with you. Welcome to our latest video. In

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<v Speaker 6>this episode, we bring you volume twenty one of our

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<v Speaker 6>National Park Mystery series, where we bring ten more disappearances

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<v Speaker 6>for you to ponder. Join us. Let's take a walk

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<v Speaker 6>and see number ten. Michael William doan forty seven year

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<v Speaker 6>old Michael Done of Las Vegas, Nevada, and had a

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<v Speaker 6>rough patch in his life in two thousand and nine.

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<v Speaker 6>You've been out of work for some time and this

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<v Speaker 6>was causing anguished in mental pain. Michael's living girlfriend said

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<v Speaker 6>that in January of two thousand and nine, Michael was

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<v Speaker 6>depressed and unhappy and desperately wanted life to get better.

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<v Speaker 6>On January twenty eighth, two thousand and nine, Michael and

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<v Speaker 6>his girlfriend got into an argument, which resulted in Michael

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<v Speaker 6>get into his car and leaving home. His girlfriend believed

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<v Speaker 6>that Michael was just trying to drive to clear his head,

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<v Speaker 6>but he never returned home. There are a few details

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<v Speaker 6>about Michael's disappearance, and all we know is that on

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<v Speaker 6>January twenty ninth, two thousand and nine, his car was

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<v Speaker 6>found in the Desert National Wildlife Range by a park ranger.

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<v Speaker 6>Cars found forty miles away from Interstate ninety five and

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<v Speaker 6>Lee Canyon Road. According to the Charlie Project, the ranger

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<v Speaker 6>saw footprints leading away from the vehicle, but there was

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<v Speaker 6>no sign of Michael. There have been little to no

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<v Speaker 6>reports about Michael's disappearance, and we do not know to

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<v Speaker 6>what extent the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police search for him.

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<v Speaker 6>Bone records indicated that shortly after he walked out of

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<v Speaker 6>the house, he tried to call his girlfriend, that the

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<v Speaker 6>call never went through. This is the last known movement

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<v Speaker 6>of Michael Doan, and he has been missing ever since.

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<v Speaker 6>Michael Doan is described as a white male with gray

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<v Speaker 6>brown hair, blue eyes that's approximately five foot ten inches

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<v Speaker 6>tall and weighs around one hundred and eighty pounds. Michael

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<v Speaker 6>has the following tattoos, a long horn skull on his chest,

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<v Speaker 6>an eagle on his back, a Tasmanian devil on his

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<v Speaker 6>left shoulder, and a picture of the Beatles on his

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<v Speaker 6>right shoulder. According to both NamUs and the Charlie Project,

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<v Speaker 6>Michael was last seen wearing a yellow jacket, blue jeans,

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<v Speaker 6>and black shoes. Anyone with any information regarding Michael or

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<v Speaker 6>his disappearance is asked to contact Dan Holly of the

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<v Speaker 6>Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department at seven zero two eight

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<v Speaker 6>two eight three to one, reference case number zero nine

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<v Speaker 6>zero one three to one dash zero nine three six

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<v Speaker 6>number nine. Lee Sterling Cutler, eighteen year old Lee Sterling

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<v Speaker 6>Cutler was described as a kind, responsible, an outgoing person

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<v Speaker 6>who wanted nothing more than to ease the pain of others.

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<v Speaker 6>While attending adelaide E Stevenson High School in Buffalo Grove, Illinois,

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<v Speaker 6>Lee founded a group called b b Yo, a Jewish

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<v Speaker 6>youth organization that hosted events and acted as support for

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<v Speaker 6>those who observed the Jewish faith within the community. Lee

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<v Speaker 6>was a shining star within the group and was dedicated

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<v Speaker 6>to them. He never missed an event and was always

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<v Speaker 6>there to support someone when they needed it. In two

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<v Speaker 6>thousand and six, Lee started showing signs of depression and

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<v Speaker 6>expressed that he wanted to harm himself, possibly take his

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<v Speaker 6>own life. This manifested in Lee taking a knife into school,

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<v Speaker 6>so he explained he could bear the pain no longer. Thankfully,

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<v Speaker 6>Lee got the help he needed and was hospitalized and

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<v Speaker 6>given therapy. After this, Lee was slowly getting his life

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<v Speaker 6>back on track and was looking forward to the future.

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<v Speaker 6>He had plans to either continue his education or maybe

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<v Speaker 6>start something different altogether. By two thousand and seven, Lee

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<v Speaker 6>was in his senior year and it was time to

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<v Speaker 6>decide his future. Lee had many plans and thought long

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<v Speaker 6>and hard about what he wanted to do, but before

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<v Speaker 6>he could enact those plans, he would disappear under bizarre circumstances.

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<v Speaker 6>On October nineteenth, two thousand and seven, Lee spent the

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<v Speaker 6>night at a friend's house and promised to call his mother,

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<v Speaker 6>Beth in the morning. Beth waited all morning for a

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<v Speaker 6>son to call her and let her know that he

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<v Speaker 6>was safe and that he made it to work. Sadly,

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<v Speaker 6>that call never came. Lee was due to start a

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<v Speaker 6>shift at the clothing store where he worked part time

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<v Speaker 6>the next morning, and his employers knew that he was

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<v Speaker 6>a reliable employee, so when he failed to show up,

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<v Speaker 6>no call, no show, they knew something was wrong. His

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<v Speaker 6>mother also sensed that something was wrong. It wasn't unusual

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<v Speaker 6>for him to forget to charge his phone, but this

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00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:11.159
<v Speaker 6>time things just somehow felt different. Throughout the day, Beth

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<v Speaker 6>called the store where Lee worked and asked if he'd

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<v Speaker 6>shown up, but he hadn't. At five pm, Beth was

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<v Speaker 6>beside herself with worry, and after calling the clothing store

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<v Speaker 6>for a final time, she then immediately dialed nine to

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<v Speaker 6>one one. The Buffalo Grove Police Department responded to the

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<v Speaker 6>call and arrived at the Cutler household. An initial search

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<v Speaker 6>of Lee's room showed no clues, but investigators did notice

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<v Speaker 6>that his overnight bag was missing, which he most likely

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<v Speaker 6>took when he spent the night at a friend's house.

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<v Speaker 6>Investigators then began retracing Lee's steps and found that the

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<v Speaker 6>last sighting of him was around nine to fifty am

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<v Speaker 6>on the morning of October twenty, two thousand and nine.

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<v Speaker 6>As investigators interviewed Lee's friends, They found out that on

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<v Speaker 6>the morning he disappeared, Lee had dropped a friend off

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<v Speaker 6>in his home in Buffalo Grove at around nine to

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<v Speaker 6>fifty am, leaving and presumably heading toward his workplace. From there,

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<v Speaker 6>the trail goes cold. Beth made hundreds of calls to

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<v Speaker 6>Lee's flown but they either didn't connect or went straight

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<v Speaker 6>to voicemail. After finding no sign of Lee in or

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<v Speaker 6>around his home or near his workplace, the search radius expanded.

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<v Speaker 6>Just today, after Lee disappeared, investigators would get their first

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<v Speaker 6>break in the case. When it is two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 6>Toyota Corolla was discovered abandoned in Wisconsin near the Barboo River.

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<v Speaker 6>The car was locked and abandoned, and there was no

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<v Speaker 6>sign of Lee anywhere. After the car was discovered, investigators

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<v Speaker 6>theorized that Lee had likely gone into the woods. It

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<v Speaker 6>was known that Lee liked the hiking camp and was

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<v Speaker 6>familiar with the Barboo River area. The further add to

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<v Speaker 6>this theory, investigators found a receipt from the Kettle Moraine

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<v Speaker 6>State Forest which was dated October twentieth, two thousand and nine,

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<v Speaker 6>at one forty one pm. Investigators now channeled their search

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<v Speaker 6>on the Kettle Moraine State Forest and the Barboo River

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<v Speaker 6>Area Search and Rescue Cruise, along with Lee's family and volunteers,

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<v Speaker 6>began to scour the area, and they quickly found their

818
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<v Speaker 6>next clue. Somewhere near the Baraboo River, searchers found Lee's

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<v Speaker 6>over night back that he had taken out with him

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<v Speaker 6>the night before his disappearance. Some of his personal items,

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<v Speaker 6>including pants, id card, wallet, cash, and car keys were

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<v Speaker 6>in this bag found by the Barber River. Also inside

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<v Speaker 6>the bag, searchers found paid medication, sleep, paid tablets, The

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<v Speaker 6>book Into the Wild and handwritten letters to his family

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<v Speaker 6>and his girlfriend. Into the Wild is a popular book

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<v Speaker 6>that follows the journey of Christopher mccandles's Christopher sets out

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<v Speaker 6>of the wilderness of Alaska, only to perish while out

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<v Speaker 6>looking for his next big adventure. None of the notes

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<v Speaker 6>mentioned anything about his disappearance, but there was another note

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<v Speaker 6>found inside the book. This note was addressed to his

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<v Speaker 6>mother and read, my head is too big for my shoulders.

832
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:57.639
<v Speaker 6>Finally I'll be able to sleep. I know I'm not crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>I love you, mom, Please be happy. He also apologized

834
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<v Speaker 6>to his mother for being a coward, but did not

835
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<v Speaker 6>refer to harming himself. The search was now focused exclusively

836
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<v Speaker 6>on the Baraboo River, but despite days of intensive searching,

837
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:16.039
<v Speaker 6>no sign of Lee was ever found. His mother and father,

838
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:18.719
<v Speaker 6>who had divorced years earlier, came together to try and

839
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<v Speaker 6>find their son. Beth made various TV appearances pleading for

840
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<v Speaker 6>her son to come home. Private investigators and dive teams

841
00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:29.000
<v Speaker 6>have been called into search for Lee, but nothing was

842
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:33.159
<v Speaker 6>ever uncovered. Investigators believed that Lee left of his own volition,

843
00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:36.119
<v Speaker 6>as living a new life elsewhere and doesn't want to

844
00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:41.119
<v Speaker 6>be contacted. Lee's case was officially closed by law enforcement. However,

845
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:43.280
<v Speaker 6>he is still listed as a missing person and his

846
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:45.679
<v Speaker 6>friends and family have never given up the fight to

847
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<v Speaker 6>find him. Lee Sterling Cutler was last seen on October twenty,

848
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<v Speaker 6>two thousand and nine, in Buffalo Grove, Illinois. He is

849
00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:55.760
<v Speaker 6>described as a white male with light brown hair and

850
00:50:55.800 --> 00:50:58.800
<v Speaker 6>brown eyes, bending six foot tall and weighing about one

851
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:02.719
<v Speaker 6>hundred and fifty pounds. Lee always wore a yarmuica and

852
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:05.840
<v Speaker 6>expressed an interest in moving to Israel after he graduated.

853
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:08.679
<v Speaker 6>He had a small bump on his upper lip and

854
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:12.360
<v Speaker 6>slight webbing between two of his toes. Lee was last

855
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:14.800
<v Speaker 6>seen wearing khaki pants and a dark blue jacket with

856
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:18.920
<v Speaker 6>a red stripe. Anyone with any information as asked to

857
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:22.840
<v Speaker 6>please contact Detective Tara Anderson of the Buffalo Group Police

858
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:27.360
<v Speaker 6>Department at eight four seven four five nine two five

859
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<v Speaker 6>eight three in reference case M seven E four two

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<v Speaker 6>two two number eight. Celeste Waina Hensley Group, Twenty year

861
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:44.880
<v Speaker 6>old Celeste Waina Hensley Group was last seen on August tenth,

862
00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:47.679
<v Speaker 6>nineteen seventy six, and a Cloud Peak Wilderness in the

863
00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:52.280
<v Speaker 6>Bighorn Mountains in Casey, Wyoming. On August tenth, Celeste and

864
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:55.280
<v Speaker 6>two of her female friends entered the wilderness area intending

865
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<v Speaker 6>to hike to Cloud Peak. According to those two friends,

866
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<v Speaker 6>Celeste decided to rest on the trailhead. They continued up

867
00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:04.880
<v Speaker 6>to Cloud Peak, and the arrangement was that they would

868
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:07.920
<v Speaker 6>meet her on the way back down. A five PM,

869
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:10.000
<v Speaker 6>the two friends had completed their hike, and as they

870
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:12.320
<v Speaker 6>made their way down to the trailhead, they saw that

871
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:16.239
<v Speaker 6>Celeste was gone. Her friends searched for calling her name,

872
00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:19.360
<v Speaker 6>but found no sign over. The two rushed to the

873
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:23.840
<v Speaker 6>nearest ranger station to report their friend missing. Within a

874
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:26.639
<v Speaker 6>few hours, the Johnson County Sheriff's office had responded to

875
00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:31.159
<v Speaker 6>the incident and had officially begun their search. Now. According

876
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:33.639
<v Speaker 6>to the Charlie Project, between two hundred and three hundred

877
00:52:33.639 --> 00:52:36.760
<v Speaker 6>people turned up to help search for Celeste. Many of

878
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:40.639
<v Speaker 6>these were search and rescue professionals, while others were simply volunteers.

879
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:44.280
<v Speaker 6>This group covered about eighty square miles but failed to

880
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:48.480
<v Speaker 6>find any sign of Celeste. There were rumors that at

881
00:52:48.519 --> 00:52:51.960
<v Speaker 6>the time her disappearance, Celeste was having metal issues, which

882
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:53.920
<v Speaker 6>may have led her to run away and start a

883
00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:57.039
<v Speaker 6>new life. However, we will point out that these rumors

884
00:52:57.039 --> 00:53:01.440
<v Speaker 6>have never been confirmed. Two long weeks, the search for

885
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:04.480
<v Speaker 6>Celeste Grubb was called off as the Johnson County Sheriff's

886
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:07.199
<v Speaker 6>Office and the group of volunteers failed to find any

887
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:10.679
<v Speaker 6>sign of her. When she disappeared, she had no supplies

888
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:13.000
<v Speaker 6>with her and only a small number of suites on

889
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:17.119
<v Speaker 6>her person. Since August tenth, nineteen seventy six, there's been

890
00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:19.800
<v Speaker 6>no sign of Celeste and she remains a missing person.

891
00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:24.360
<v Speaker 6>Celesti Grub is described as a white female, standing five

892
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:26.920
<v Speaker 6>foot two inches tall and weigh one hundred and fifteen pounds.

893
00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:30.679
<v Speaker 6>Anyone with any information is as to police contact Deputy

894
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:34.239
<v Speaker 6>Paul Caussek of the Johnson County Sheriff's Office at three

895
00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:37.440
<v Speaker 6>zero seven six eight four five to five to eight

896
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<v Speaker 6>one in reference case number one eight s zero zero

897
00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:49.719
<v Speaker 6>seven to five number seven Delicia Annette Waddy. Before she disappeared,

898
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:52.719
<v Speaker 6>twenty four year old Delicia Annette Waddy left a message

899
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:55.559
<v Speaker 6>on her Facebook page which read, it's never too late

900
00:53:55.599 --> 00:54:00.119
<v Speaker 6>to do the right thing. Don't get discouraged speaking to myself. Also,

901
00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:04.599
<v Speaker 6>just days later, Delicia would be reported missing and there's

902
00:54:04.639 --> 00:54:08.199
<v Speaker 6>been no sign of her since. According to reports, Delicia

903
00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:11.159
<v Speaker 6>was last seen in the King's Dominion Camp Wilderness Campground

904
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:15.440
<v Speaker 6>in the one thousand block of King's Dominion Boulevard in Oswell, Virginia,

905
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:20.199
<v Speaker 6>on March ninth, twenty seventeen. Alicia entered the campground and

906
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:24.199
<v Speaker 6>tried to get a spot. Unfortunately, the campground was full

907
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:27.480
<v Speaker 6>and no matter how hard she begged, Delicia wasn't given

908
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:31.880
<v Speaker 6>a spot. After being refused to spot, Delicia left the

909
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:36.559
<v Speaker 6>campground on foot, leaving her silver Ford Explorer behind. Reports

910
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:38.840
<v Speaker 6>indicate that her car was in good working condition and

911
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:42.000
<v Speaker 6>had plenty of gas insight, so why would she leave

912
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:45.239
<v Speaker 6>it behind. There's also a large chunk of time where

913
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:48.800
<v Speaker 6>Delicia's movements are unaccounted for, and the next sighting of

914
00:54:48.840 --> 00:54:51.760
<v Speaker 6>her wasn't made until around three or four pm that afternoon.

915
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:57.000
<v Speaker 6>According to an NBC article, witnesses saw Delicia walking barefoot

916
00:54:57.039 --> 00:55:01.639
<v Speaker 6>along Meta Farm Road in Caroline County, Virginia. Delicia's behavior

917
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:05.000
<v Speaker 6>both worried and disturbed passers by, and two people even

918
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:09.400
<v Speaker 6>filled her walking along the road barefoot. These same passers

919
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:12.239
<v Speaker 6>by tried to intervene and offer her help, but according

920
00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:15.800
<v Speaker 6>to them, she declined. These are the last known movements

921
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:19.079
<v Speaker 6>of Delicia, and after this she simply dropped off the map.

922
00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:22.559
<v Speaker 6>Her absence was noted by her family, and her mother

923
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:26.039
<v Speaker 6>knew that she always kept in contact. After failing to

924
00:55:26.079 --> 00:55:30.039
<v Speaker 6>reach Delicia, her mother contacted the authorities and reported her missing.

925
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:34.639
<v Speaker 6>From there, the two forces, Hanover County Sheriff's Office and

926
00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:38.719
<v Speaker 6>the Caroline County Sheriff's Office began retracing Delicia's last movements.

927
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:42.280
<v Speaker 6>It wasn't long until they found her abandoned silver Ford,

928
00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:47.079
<v Speaker 6>exploring the King's Dominion Camp Wilderness Campground. Investigators noticed, as

929
00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:49.079
<v Speaker 6>we said, that the car was in good working order

930
00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:54.840
<v Speaker 6>and had plenty of gas. Bizarrely, Delicia's phone, purse, wallet,

931
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:58.079
<v Speaker 6>and license were scattered behind the Mental Event Park, which

932
00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:01.239
<v Speaker 6>was close to where she abandoned her car. As news

933
00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:04.360
<v Speaker 6>of Delicia's disappearance went public, witnesses came forward with the

934
00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:08.440
<v Speaker 6>video of her walking barefoot in Caroline County. The search

935
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:11.360
<v Speaker 6>radius expanded and sent dogs were also brought into eight

936
00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:15.239
<v Speaker 6>in the search. According to the Charlie Project, doggs also

937
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:19.000
<v Speaker 6>tracked her sent to a home in Caroline, Virginia. Was

938
00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:22.599
<v Speaker 6>Delicia headed to a specific location or was she perhaps

939
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:26.079
<v Speaker 6>taken against her will. Another twist in the case came

940
00:56:26.199 --> 00:56:28.639
<v Speaker 6>days later, when a friend of Dealsiu's reported seeing her

941
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:33.239
<v Speaker 6>on Bendale Avenue in Richmond, Virginia on March twelfth, twenty seventeen.

942
00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:36.440
<v Speaker 6>This friend told investigators that she was not aware that

943
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:39.719
<v Speaker 6>Delasia was missing, and no further information about this sighting

944
00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:44.039
<v Speaker 6>has been released. These sightings and the fact that Delicia

945
00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:47.079
<v Speaker 6>did not ask passers by for help, have led investigators

946
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:49.239
<v Speaker 6>to believe that she may not have been in trouble,

947
00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:51.880
<v Speaker 6>although given how much time has passed since she was

948
00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:57.239
<v Speaker 6>last seen, their viewpoint has most likely changed. Delicia's mother

949
00:56:57.400 --> 00:56:59.360
<v Speaker 6>told the media that it was out of the ordinary

950
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:02.000
<v Speaker 6>for Delusa not to contact her friends or family, and

951
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:06.599
<v Speaker 6>that her behavior was bizarre. Delicia's friends and family want

952
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:09.639
<v Speaker 6>her home and are asking the public to help. She

953
00:57:09.639 --> 00:57:12.199
<v Speaker 6>has not accessed her social media or bank accounts since

954
00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:15.239
<v Speaker 6>she disappeared, and her family now fears for her safety.

955
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:19.320
<v Speaker 6>Delicia Waddie is described as an African American female with

956
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:23.519
<v Speaker 6>black hair, hazel eyes, standing five foot one and weighing

957
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:27.320
<v Speaker 6>one hundred and forty five pounds. Delicia has the following

958
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:32.039
<v Speaker 6>tattoos arts on both sides of her collarbone, leopard spots

959
00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:35.480
<v Speaker 6>on one arm and shoulder, Brian on her breast, an

960
00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:38.920
<v Speaker 6>anchor on the other breast, and script writing that runs

961
00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:42.360
<v Speaker 6>across her abdomen, the name Matria on her wrist, and

962
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:46.199
<v Speaker 6>tattoos on her Laura, abdomen, hip and calf. Delicia also

963
00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:49.360
<v Speaker 6>has her nose and ears pierced, and some agencies may

964
00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:53.159
<v Speaker 6>spell her name de e l Cia rather than the

965
00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:57.440
<v Speaker 6>el e Cia. She was last seen wearing a black

966
00:57:57.480 --> 00:57:59.920
<v Speaker 6>and white tank top, black pants with a white strap

967
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:03.320
<v Speaker 6>down the leg, a multicolored ball cap, and no shoes.

968
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:07.559
<v Speaker 6>Anyone with any information just asked to contact Monica Fagin

969
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:10.840
<v Speaker 6>of the Caroline County Sheriff's Office at eight zero four

970
00:58:11.119 --> 00:58:14.880
<v Speaker 6>six six three one one two zero or the Hanover

971
00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:18.280
<v Speaker 6>County Sheriff's Office at eight oh four three sixty five

972
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<v Speaker 6>six 's one four zero number six. Leonyard Taku, forty

973
00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:27.840
<v Speaker 6>four year old Leonard Tacu, was last seen on Christmas

974
00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:30.800
<v Speaker 6>Day two thousand and six at the Tampa International Airport

975
00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:34.679
<v Speaker 6>in Tampa, Florida. At the time of his disappearance, Leonard

976
00:58:34.760 --> 00:58:37.639
<v Speaker 6>was on vacation in Florida from Ramsgate, England, where he

977
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:41.079
<v Speaker 6>worked as a school teacher. Leonyard was excited about his

978
00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:43.360
<v Speaker 6>vacation and told his colleagues that he would be back

979
00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:46.280
<v Speaker 6>on January third, two thousand and seven to start the

980
00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:49.559
<v Speaker 6>school year afresh. Those who knew Leonard said he was

981
00:58:49.639 --> 00:58:52.079
<v Speaker 6>kind and outgoing and loved his life and his job.

982
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:55.400
<v Speaker 6>Leonyard was last seen at the car rental desk at

983
00:58:55.440 --> 00:58:58.119
<v Speaker 6>the airport, where he was attempting to renew his contract

984
00:58:58.199 --> 00:59:01.440
<v Speaker 6>for a rented car. He'd been driving a two thousand

985
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:04.960
<v Speaker 6>and five black christ Or Crossfire convertible around Florida, and

986
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:06.559
<v Speaker 6>this would have been the third time he would have

987
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:11.280
<v Speaker 6>extended the contract. After leaving the rental desk, Leonyard was

988
00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:14.559
<v Speaker 6>never seen again, but when his family realized he was missing.

989
00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:18.920
<v Speaker 6>There were a few puzzling clues left behind. When Leonard

990
00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:21.719
<v Speaker 6>failed to return home to England, his family and colleagues

991
00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:24.960
<v Speaker 6>knew something had gone wrong. Leonard was due back on

992
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:27.800
<v Speaker 6>January third, two thousand and seven, and it was unlike

993
00:59:27.880 --> 00:59:31.880
<v Speaker 6>Leonard to miss work. His family contacted the authorities in

994
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:36.239
<v Speaker 6>Florida and officially reported him missing. The Altamonte Springs Police

995
00:59:36.239 --> 00:59:39.000
<v Speaker 6>Department responded to the report, and the search for Leonard

996
00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:43.119
<v Speaker 6>officially began. Leonard was openly gay, and the police appealed

997
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:47.920
<v Speaker 6>to Florida's LGBTQ plus community to help them search for him.

998
00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:51.199
<v Speaker 6>Investigators began retracing his steps and found that his credit

999
00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:53.800
<v Speaker 6>card had been used on December twenty sixth two thousand

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00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:57.320
<v Speaker 6>and six at a Gap store. Whoever used the card

1001
00:59:57.400 --> 01:00:00.000
<v Speaker 6>purchased forty six dollars and fifty five cents worth of clothes.

1002
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:03.639
<v Speaker 6>Now it's never been confirmed whether this transaction was made

1003
01:00:03.639 --> 01:00:07.039
<v Speaker 6>by Leonard himself. It was also found that Leonard's emails

1004
01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:09.599
<v Speaker 6>were accessed on December twenty eight, two thousand and six,

1005
01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:13.000
<v Speaker 6>but again, investigators have never been able to confirm whether

1006
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:15.800
<v Speaker 6>it was actually Lenard or not. Access In the account,

1007
01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:19.480
<v Speaker 6>The trail went cold for a while, and his family

1008
01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:23.880
<v Speaker 6>desperately waited for updates. Then on February ninth, two thousand

1009
01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:27.920
<v Speaker 6>and seven, they received a call from investigators. The Altamonte

1010
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:31.239
<v Speaker 6>Springs Police had found that Chrysler crossed fire abandoned deep

1011
01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:34.119
<v Speaker 6>in the Okalla National Force close to the Little Lake

1012
01:00:34.159 --> 01:00:38.559
<v Speaker 6>George Wilderness area. At the time, the Department of Agriculture

1013
01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:41.880
<v Speaker 6>was performing a controlled burn, and while the car was unharmed,

1014
01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:44.480
<v Speaker 6>any evidence that may have been around it was destroyed.

1015
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:47.960
<v Speaker 6>With diminished evidence, the police concluded that there was no

1016
01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:50.320
<v Speaker 6>sign of a struggle and the car did not hold

1017
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:54.840
<v Speaker 6>any clues as to Leonard squarebounds. Investigators found themselves stuck

1018
01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:57.239
<v Speaker 6>at square one and with no clues to work with,

1019
01:00:57.639 --> 01:01:03.000
<v Speaker 6>the case quickly ran cold. Florida is LGTBQ plus community

1020
01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:06.079
<v Speaker 6>banded together to help find Leonard, and the community kep

1021
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:09.679
<v Speaker 6>a watchful eye out for him. Unfortunately, no sign of

1022
01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:13.360
<v Speaker 6>Leonard has ever been found. There was one final transaction

1023
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:15.840
<v Speaker 6>on his credit card in January of two thousand and seven,

1024
01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:19.840
<v Speaker 6>when a room was purchased at a fancy hotel in Orlando, Florida.

1025
01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:23.599
<v Speaker 6>Leonard was not known to stay in lavish hotels while traveling,

1026
01:01:23.639 --> 01:01:25.679
<v Speaker 6>and this is when his family knew that Leonard was

1027
01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:29.199
<v Speaker 6>probably not the one using the card. It does not

1028
01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:31.639
<v Speaker 6>appear that the hotel was able to verify who checked in,

1029
01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:35.000
<v Speaker 6>and if this information is available, police are keeping it

1030
01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:39.639
<v Speaker 6>close to their chest. Leonard Taku remains missing and his

1031
01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:42.119
<v Speaker 6>family and friends in the UK and the US are

1032
01:01:42.159 --> 01:01:45.440
<v Speaker 6>searching for justice and answers. His family believed that he

1033
01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:48.719
<v Speaker 6>met with foul play, although investigators are stated there is

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01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:53.280
<v Speaker 6>no evidence to point to this. Leonard Taku is described

1035
01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:57.159
<v Speaker 6>as a Pacific Islander as black hair, brown eyes, stands

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01:01:57.159 --> 01:01:59.840
<v Speaker 6>about five foot nine inches tall and weighs about a

1037
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:03.880
<v Speaker 6>hundred and seventy five pounds. Leonard has the following tattoos,

1038
01:02:04.119 --> 01:02:07.000
<v Speaker 6>some of which are relevant to his Pacific islunder culture.

1039
01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:10.599
<v Speaker 6>A checkerboard pattern and circles on his upper right arm,

1040
01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:13.800
<v Speaker 6>solid triangles with lines from his elbow to wrist. Also

1041
01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:16.880
<v Speaker 6>on his right arm, the zig zag pattern from elbow

1042
01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:19.679
<v Speaker 6>to wrist on his left arm, a tribal design was

1043
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:21.840
<v Speaker 6>hurling patterns on his legs running from the knee of

1044
01:02:21.880 --> 01:02:25.199
<v Speaker 6>the thigh, a Celtic design on his lower back, and

1045
01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:28.920
<v Speaker 6>Gothic lettering on his upper back. Leonard has a distinctive

1046
01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:32.039
<v Speaker 6>Kiwi or New Zealand accent, and is an active and

1047
01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:36.440
<v Speaker 6>out member of the LGBTQ plus community. Anyone with any

1048
01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:39.840
<v Speaker 6>information is asked to contact the Altamonte Springs Police Department

1049
01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:44.280
<v Speaker 6>four zero seven five seven one eight two eight zero

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<v Speaker 6>in reference case number two zero zero eight c J

1051
01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:56.639
<v Speaker 6>zero zero one one two five number five. Ronald Gail Selee,

1052
01:02:57.199 --> 01:02:59.639
<v Speaker 6>forty year old Ronald Gail Sili, moved from his home

1053
01:02:59.639 --> 01:03:02.760
<v Speaker 6>in Ville to Fresno County in August of nineteen eighty

1054
01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:05.119
<v Speaker 6>nine take a job as an X ray technician at

1055
01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:08.800
<v Speaker 6>one of the Fresnel County Hospitals. Unfortunately, there's not a

1056
01:03:08.840 --> 01:03:11.519
<v Speaker 6>lot of information about Ronald, and the only information available

1057
01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:16.760
<v Speaker 6>is pertaining to his disappearance. On September second, nineteen eighty nine, Ronald,

1058
01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:19.760
<v Speaker 6>along with three other men, entered the Ansel Adams Wilderness

1059
01:03:19.800 --> 01:03:23.119
<v Speaker 6>Area in Madeira County and planned the hike there. Ronald

1060
01:03:23.239 --> 01:03:25.480
<v Speaker 6>was last seed at around four thirty PM, and after

1061
01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:28.079
<v Speaker 6>that he became separated from the group as the rough

1062
01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:31.800
<v Speaker 6>terrain forced them apart. According to a news article from

1063
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:34.400
<v Speaker 6>the Times Herald, the group had planned a camp overnight

1064
01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:36.960
<v Speaker 6>and the three men headed towards their campsite in the

1065
01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:40.679
<v Speaker 6>hopes that Ronald would eventually catch up with them. A

1066
01:03:40.760 --> 01:03:43.920
<v Speaker 6>September third, nineteen eighty nine, rolled around, and there was

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01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:47.239
<v Speaker 6>still no sign of their traveling companion. They reported missing

1068
01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:50.960
<v Speaker 6>to the Madeira County Sheriff's Department. The Sheriff's Department, along

1069
01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:53.559
<v Speaker 6>with search and rescue cruise, searched a twenty square mile

1070
01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:57.159
<v Speaker 6>area before calling off. The search crews were in the

1071
01:03:57.159 --> 01:03:59.039
<v Speaker 6>air and on the ground, but failed to find any

1072
01:03:59.079 --> 01:04:02.920
<v Speaker 6>sign of Ronald. Tommy Tomlinson, the Sheriff's sergeant of Madera

1073
01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:07.039
<v Speaker 6>County Sheriff's Office, told The Times Harold no signs evidence

1074
01:04:07.159 --> 01:04:10.320
<v Speaker 6>or any of his gear has been found. It's unusual

1075
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:14.000
<v Speaker 6>for nothing to be found. There's no evidence of foul play,

1076
01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:18.079
<v Speaker 6>it doesn't mean it's been ruled out. In the same article,

1077
01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:21.880
<v Speaker 6>Ronald's sister, Pam Dorazzo told reporter Glenn Cardy how she

1078
01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:25.679
<v Speaker 6>planned to still celebrate Ronald's upcoming forty first birthday. She

1079
01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:28.840
<v Speaker 6>told Glynn, I bought him a birthday card already, and

1080
01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:31.880
<v Speaker 6>I'm not going to let him go to this day.

1081
01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:34.199
<v Speaker 6>His family still holds out hope that Ronald will be

1082
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:36.960
<v Speaker 6>found and if they can finally get the answers they deserve.

1083
01:04:37.920 --> 01:04:41.480
<v Speaker 6>His mother, Marcine, believes that Ronald may have had amnesia

1084
01:04:41.679 --> 01:04:45.079
<v Speaker 6>and may have forgotten who he was. Almost thirty three

1085
01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:47.559
<v Speaker 6>years later and there's still no sign of Ronald, and

1086
01:04:47.599 --> 01:04:49.800
<v Speaker 6>it's unlikely that he simply ran away and started a

1087
01:04:49.800 --> 01:04:53.400
<v Speaker 6>new life, as some have suggested. Ronald is described as

1088
01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:56.199
<v Speaker 6>a white male with brown hair, green eyes, standing six

1089
01:04:56.199 --> 01:04:58.320
<v Speaker 6>foot tall and weighing one hundred and eighty five pounds.

1090
01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:01.039
<v Speaker 6>He has a tattoo of a son with rays, and

1091
01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:03.199
<v Speaker 6>the Charlie Project notes that he may have suffered from

1092
01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:06.719
<v Speaker 6>a head injury prior to his disappearance. Ronald was last

1093
01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:09.280
<v Speaker 6>seen wearing a red and white strip tank top, cut

1094
01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:12.920
<v Speaker 6>off Levi jeans, hiking boots, and a straw cowboy hat,

1095
01:05:13.159 --> 01:05:15.039
<v Speaker 6>and he was carrying a blue backpack with a red

1096
01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:19.440
<v Speaker 6>sleeping bag. Anyone with any information this has to please

1097
01:05:19.480 --> 01:05:23.480
<v Speaker 6>contact Detective Louise Paget of the Madera County Sheriff's Office

1098
01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:26.840
<v Speaker 6>at five point five nine sixty sixty four four nine

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01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:31.000
<v Speaker 6>zero eight and reference case number zero one zero one

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01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:38.199
<v Speaker 6>eight one seven five number four. Simon Owen, twenty one

1101
01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:40.599
<v Speaker 6>year old Simon Owen was described as a kind and

1102
01:05:40.639 --> 01:05:43.800
<v Speaker 6>easygoing young man, and at just twenty one years old,

1103
01:05:44.079 --> 01:05:47.920
<v Speaker 6>the world was his oyster. During term time, Simon lived

1104
01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:51.320
<v Speaker 6>in Fort Worth, Texas and attended the Texas Wesleyan University,

1105
01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:54.559
<v Speaker 6>but during the summers, Simon spent his time in Hawaii.

1106
01:05:54.719 --> 01:05:57.719
<v Speaker 6>With plenty of sun and endless beaches, Hawaii was a

1107
01:05:57.719 --> 01:06:00.719
<v Speaker 6>perfect place for Simon's relax center its extra money for

1108
01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:04.079
<v Speaker 6>school next year, and in nineteen ninety four he went

1109
01:06:04.119 --> 01:06:08.079
<v Speaker 6>to the Islands, but would never come back. In June

1110
01:06:08.079 --> 01:06:11.400
<v Speaker 6>of that year, nineteen ninety four, Simon arrived in Hawaii

1111
01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:14.599
<v Speaker 6>and got himself a job at Chile's Restaurant in Waikiki.

1112
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:17.840
<v Speaker 6>He was also renting a room and planned to split

1113
01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:21.559
<v Speaker 6>his time between work and play. Simon was a keen outdoorsman,

1114
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:24.519
<v Speaker 6>which made Hawaii the perfect place for him. He loved

1115
01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:26.760
<v Speaker 6>to climb and hike and want better place to do

1116
01:06:26.840 --> 01:06:29.880
<v Speaker 6>it than Hawaii. Simon was seen for the last time

1117
01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:33.400
<v Speaker 6>on June twenty ninth, nineteen ninety four. After that, he

1118
01:06:33.440 --> 01:06:38.000
<v Speaker 6>seemed to simply disappear. When his colleagues and family realized

1119
01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:40.800
<v Speaker 6>he was missing, they reported this to the police, and

1120
01:06:41.039 --> 01:06:45.239
<v Speaker 6>days later a large scale search was in operation. According

1121
01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:49.119
<v Speaker 6>to an article by The Honolulu Advertiser, billionaire Ross pro

1122
01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:52.039
<v Speaker 6>even aided financially in the search by paying for a

1123
01:06:52.079 --> 01:06:56.119
<v Speaker 6>private helicopter to look for Simon. Volunteers turned out in

1124
01:06:56.159 --> 01:06:59.000
<v Speaker 6>their hundreds to help search for the promising student, but

1125
01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:04.360
<v Speaker 6>they only ever one clue. Days into the search, investigators

1126
01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:07.320
<v Speaker 6>found Simon's bicycle changed the tree at the base of

1127
01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:11.079
<v Speaker 6>Manoa Falls. The search expanded to Manoa Falls, but no

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01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:14.920
<v Speaker 6>sign of Simon has ever been found. Investigators believe that

1129
01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:18.280
<v Speaker 6>Simon had an accident wilaut climbing and possibly fell from

1130
01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:22.519
<v Speaker 6>a considerable height. Simon was well versed in hiking and climbing,

1131
01:07:22.800 --> 01:07:26.760
<v Speaker 6>but the landscape of Manoa Falls can be unpredictable. The

1132
01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:29.800
<v Speaker 6>Honolulu Police Department does not believe that foul play is

1133
01:07:29.880 --> 01:07:34.119
<v Speaker 6>involved in Simon's case. Simon Owen was seen for the

1134
01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:38.519
<v Speaker 6>last time on June twenty ninth, nineteen ninety four, in Waikiki, Hawaii,

1135
01:07:38.679 --> 01:07:43.280
<v Speaker 6>and investigators are now seeking information. Simon's described as a

1136
01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:46.760
<v Speaker 6>white male with brown brown eyes, standing six foot tall

1137
01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:49.800
<v Speaker 6>and weighing one hundred and fifty five pounds. He has

1138
01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:52.760
<v Speaker 6>the Christian fish simple tattooed on his right ankle and

1139
01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:55.159
<v Speaker 6>has scars on the back of his neck, right hip,

1140
01:07:55.239 --> 01:07:58.679
<v Speaker 6>and left shoulder. When last seen, he was wearing based

1141
01:07:58.719 --> 01:08:03.039
<v Speaker 6>shorts and was possibly carrying his maroon backpack. Anyone with

1142
01:08:03.079 --> 01:08:05.679
<v Speaker 6>any information or who may have spotted the young man

1143
01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:09.480
<v Speaker 6>is asked to police contact the Honolulu Police Department at

1144
01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:12.920
<v Speaker 6>eight zero eight five two nine three to one one

1145
01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:16.680
<v Speaker 6>one and reference case number nine four NASH two seven

1146
01:08:16.760 --> 01:08:24.960
<v Speaker 6>three nine zero three number three. Michael Hugh Cabialetti fifty

1147
01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:28.119
<v Speaker 6>six year old Michael Hugh Cabilletti as a retired Army colonel.

1148
01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:30.960
<v Speaker 6>As time in the army taught him many valuable survival

1149
01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:34.640
<v Speaker 6>and outdoor skills, Michael loved to explore the great outdoors,

1150
01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:37.359
<v Speaker 6>and according to reports, is believed that he entered the

1151
01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:41.680
<v Speaker 6>Grandbury Wilderness on May twenty third, twenty eleven. His family

1152
01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:43.319
<v Speaker 6>said that it was unlike Michael to go on a

1153
01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:46.079
<v Speaker 6>hiking tramp without telling anyone, and after he failed to

1154
01:08:46.079 --> 01:08:49.720
<v Speaker 6>return home, he was reported missing. A month later. On

1155
01:08:49.800 --> 01:08:53.359
<v Speaker 6>June twenty seventh, twenty eleven, Michael's car was found abandoned

1156
01:08:53.359 --> 01:08:57.079
<v Speaker 6>by state trooper Marca g. The state trooper found Michael's

1157
01:08:57.079 --> 01:08:59.680
<v Speaker 6>car abandoned on Williams River Road, and when he checked

1158
01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:02.720
<v Speaker 6>the line Lison's plate, he found it belonged to Michael Camleetti,

1159
01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:06.439
<v Speaker 6>who had been reported missing weeks earlier. Inside the car,

1160
01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:08.560
<v Speaker 6>it was a handwritten note that stated he was playing

1161
01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:11.279
<v Speaker 6>to hike on the North South Trail from May twenty

1162
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:15.520
<v Speaker 6>third to May twenty seven. This discovering alarmed officers and

1163
01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:17.960
<v Speaker 6>a search of the North South Trail was conducted, but

1164
01:09:18.039 --> 01:09:22.000
<v Speaker 6>they were unable to find any evidence of Michael. Sent dogs,

1165
01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:25.399
<v Speaker 6>search and rescue crews, and volunteers all flocked to the

1166
01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:28.520
<v Speaker 6>Cranberry Wilderness to aid in the search for Michael, but

1167
01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:32.520
<v Speaker 6>despite all this, the searchers came up empty handed. Since then,

1168
01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:35.720
<v Speaker 6>there's been no sign of Michael. His family is now

1169
01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:40.039
<v Speaker 6>looking for answers and closure. Michael Cambaletti is described as

1170
01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:43.399
<v Speaker 6>a white male with brown hair, blue eyes, standing five

1171
01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:46.840
<v Speaker 6>foot five inches tall, weighing one hundred and sixty five pounds.

1172
01:09:47.479 --> 01:09:50.840
<v Speaker 6>He has a scar on his chin. Anyone with any

1173
01:09:50.840 --> 01:09:53.920
<v Speaker 6>information is asked to contact the West Virginia State Police

1174
01:09:54.399 --> 01:09:58.000
<v Speaker 6>at three zero four seven nine to nine Bore one

1175
01:09:58.279 --> 01:10:05.840
<v Speaker 6>zero one, number two. Harold Loris Drake seventy six year

1176
01:10:05.880 --> 01:10:08.800
<v Speaker 6>old retired math teacher Harold Loris Drake was joining his

1177
01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:12.000
<v Speaker 6>retirement after dedicating many decades of his life to teaching

1178
01:10:12.199 --> 01:10:16.800
<v Speaker 6>newer generations. Harold was especially excited to get out and about,

1179
01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:19.600
<v Speaker 6>and he loved nothing more than hiking. Was said to

1180
01:10:19.600 --> 01:10:23.640
<v Speaker 6>be in great physical condition for his age. On July eighth,

1181
01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:27.159
<v Speaker 6>twenty fifteen, Harold entered the fire for Bigshurst State Park

1182
01:10:27.199 --> 01:10:29.520
<v Speaker 6>with a friend, and the two planned on camping and

1183
01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:33.399
<v Speaker 6>hiking there over the coming days. According to Harold's friend,

1184
01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:35.960
<v Speaker 6>on July eighth, Harold told him that he was going

1185
01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:38.159
<v Speaker 6>for a hike and would be back by that afternoon,

1186
01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:41.159
<v Speaker 6>But as the afternoon came and went, there was no

1187
01:10:41.239 --> 01:10:45.000
<v Speaker 6>sign of Harold. His friend began to panic As the

1188
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:48.319
<v Speaker 6>hours ticked by and his friends still hadn't returned. Harold's

1189
01:10:48.359 --> 01:10:51.840
<v Speaker 6>camping companion reported missing to the Monterey County Sheriff's Department,

1190
01:10:51.960 --> 01:10:55.359
<v Speaker 6>and a search was underway. Within a few hours. The

1191
01:10:55.399 --> 01:10:58.640
<v Speaker 6>Sheriff's Department, along with search and rescue crews, searched throughout

1192
01:10:58.640 --> 01:11:02.560
<v Speaker 6>the park for Harold, ultimately found no sign of him.

1193
01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:05.439
<v Speaker 6>The friend who Harold was camping with told investigators that

1194
01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:07.560
<v Speaker 6>Harold had left with a gallon of water and some

1195
01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:10.159
<v Speaker 6>snacks that it appears that he left his sleeping bag

1196
01:11:10.239 --> 01:11:14.720
<v Speaker 6>and camping gear behind. Despite searching the fire for Big

1197
01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:18.039
<v Speaker 6>Surch State Park, which spans over a thousand acres, no

1198
01:11:18.119 --> 01:11:21.800
<v Speaker 6>sign of Harold has ever been located. The most likely

1199
01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:24.119
<v Speaker 6>theory is that he got lost or injured during his

1200
01:11:24.199 --> 01:11:28.239
<v Speaker 6>hike and was unable to cry for help. Harold's friends

1201
01:11:28.239 --> 01:11:30.800
<v Speaker 6>and family have never given up hope that one day

1202
01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:35.159
<v Speaker 6>they'll find him. Harold lors Drake is described as a

1203
01:11:35.199 --> 01:11:38.560
<v Speaker 6>white male with white hair, blue eyes. He stands five

1204
01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:41.880
<v Speaker 6>fot nine inches tall, weighs one hundred and sixty five pounds,

1205
01:11:41.920 --> 01:11:46.000
<v Speaker 6>and wears prescription glasses. Harold was last seen wearing a

1206
01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:51.960
<v Speaker 6>gray shirt, black pants, black suspenders, and hiking boots. Unfortunately,

1207
01:11:52.039 --> 01:11:54.359
<v Speaker 6>Harold's case has not yet been submitted to name US,

1208
01:11:54.439 --> 01:11:58.119
<v Speaker 6>and no further details are available at this time. Anyone

1209
01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:00.760
<v Speaker 6>with any information or may have seen herald that day,

1210
01:12:01.600 --> 01:12:05.199
<v Speaker 6>please contact the Monterey County Sheriff's Department at eight three

1211
01:12:05.239 --> 01:12:12.039
<v Speaker 6>to one seven five five three seven two two number one.

1212
01:12:12.439 --> 01:12:17.119
<v Speaker 6>Richard Harville, sixty seven year old Vietnam veteran Richard Harvelle

1213
01:12:17.399 --> 01:12:20.399
<v Speaker 6>and his friend set off into the Mojave Desert October

1214
01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:23.479
<v Speaker 6>twenty fifteen, hoping to set up camp and eventually hike

1215
01:12:23.600 --> 01:12:27.119
<v Speaker 6>to the Hachepee Mountains well, not caring for his family.

1216
01:12:27.439 --> 01:12:29.960
<v Speaker 6>Richard loved to be outdoors, and his family even joked

1217
01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:33.520
<v Speaker 6>that he preferred the wilderness to people. On October fifteen,

1218
01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:36.960
<v Speaker 6>twenty fifteen, tragedy would strike when Richard and his friend

1219
01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:40.239
<v Speaker 6>were camping at the foot of the Tahatchepee Mountains. According

1220
01:12:40.279 --> 01:12:42.760
<v Speaker 6>to reports, the two were camping in a trailer near

1221
01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:45.520
<v Speaker 6>one hundred and fifty Street to Highgate Avenue when the

1222
01:12:45.560 --> 01:12:48.560
<v Speaker 6>heavens opened up at around ten PM and torrential rains

1223
01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:51.600
<v Speaker 6>began to pour down. No one could have anticipated just

1224
01:12:51.640 --> 01:12:53.800
<v Speaker 6>how bad the rains were about to be, and those

1225
01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:57.000
<v Speaker 6>in Kern County or California were completely caught off guard.

1226
01:12:58.039 --> 01:13:00.600
<v Speaker 6>Within minutes, the rains had turned lethal and began to

1227
01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:03.640
<v Speaker 6>sweep the mud and stand through the Mohave Desert. This

1228
01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:07.000
<v Speaker 6>flood quickly overwhelmed residents and those hiking in the area,

1229
01:13:07.199 --> 01:13:10.119
<v Speaker 6>and Richard and his friend were sadly at the epicenter

1230
01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:13.560
<v Speaker 6>of it. As the rains poured down, Richard went outside

1231
01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:15.239
<v Speaker 6>the trailer to try and move his car. All of

1232
01:13:15.239 --> 01:13:18.960
<v Speaker 6>the way, and that is when tragedy struck. His friend

1233
01:13:19.039 --> 01:13:20.960
<v Speaker 6>watched as Richard was hit by a rock and was

1234
01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:24.680
<v Speaker 6>knocked under the current. As his body floated away, with

1235
01:13:24.760 --> 01:13:27.279
<v Speaker 6>little time to react, his friend desperately tried to grab

1236
01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:29.920
<v Speaker 6>hold of Richard, but the current was just too strong.

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<v Speaker 6>Within seconds, Richard had been pulled away from his trailer

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<v Speaker 6>and he was now missing. His family were understandably devastated

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<v Speaker 6>when the news hit them, and they vowed to never

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<v Speaker 6>give up looking for his body. When the rains finally

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<v Speaker 6>calmed and the flood subsided, Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department

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<v Speaker 6>and the KCSO Desert Search and Rescue Team took to

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<v Speaker 6>the skies to try and find Richard. Searches were temporarily

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01:13:53.680 --> 01:13:56.119
<v Speaker 6>suspended due to conditions, but when he was safe to

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01:13:56.159 --> 01:13:59.279
<v Speaker 6>do so, brown teams were also dispatched, but even they

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01:13:59.319 --> 01:14:02.640
<v Speaker 6>were unable to behind any sign of the man. The

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<v Speaker 6>La Times supported that the Harville's family also let his

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<v Speaker 6>dog loose, hoping the animal would be able to locate him,

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<v Speaker 6>but the dog sat near the trailer for three days.

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<v Speaker 6>It was unfortunately clear that the dog didn't know where

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<v Speaker 6>to start. Despite wide scale searches. No sign of Richard

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01:14:18.720 --> 01:14:21.439
<v Speaker 6>has ever been found, but his family still haven't given

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01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:24.920
<v Speaker 6>up hope of closure. He's described as a strong and

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01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:28.920
<v Speaker 6>determined person and a keen survivalist. His family hopes that

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01:14:28.960 --> 01:14:31.479
<v Speaker 6>his army days and timing the great outdoors might have

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01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:33.760
<v Speaker 6>given him the skills to stay alive, and that one

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01:14:33.800 --> 01:14:37.880
<v Speaker 6>day they may be reunited. Richard Harvell is described as

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<v Speaker 6>a white male with brown hair, brown eyes, standing five

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01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:43.359
<v Speaker 6>foot eleven and weighing one hundred and eighty five pounds.

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<v Speaker 6>Anyone with any information is asked to please contact the

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<v Speaker 6>current County Sheriff's Department at sixty sixty one three nine

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<v Speaker 6>one seven six two three in reference case number SR

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<v Speaker 6>one five to two seven three seven nine. Well, folks,

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<v Speaker 6>there you have it. That wraps up this edition of

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<v Speaker 6>National Park Mysteries and Disappearances. What do you think of

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01:15:09.399 --> 01:15:14.399
<v Speaker 6>these strange cases? We'd love to hear your opinion on

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01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:17.439
<v Speaker 6>these cases of the comments, but please keep it friendly

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01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:21.359
<v Speaker 6>and respectful till we meet again. Be good to yourselves

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01:15:21.439 --> 01:15:25.520
<v Speaker 6>and each other. Stay safe out there. As for me,

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<v Speaker 6>I'll see you a little further on down the trail.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm Steve Stockton, and I'll talk to you next time.

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<v Speaker 6>Hello friends, Steve Stalkton here with you. Welcome to our

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<v Speaker 6>latest episode. In this video, we're going to discuss the

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01:15:52.680 --> 01:15:57.800
<v Speaker 6>strange disappearance of Osha Kramer. Join me, let's take a

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01:15:57.840 --> 01:16:02.279
<v Speaker 6>walk and see. Now. We come across many strange vanishings

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01:16:02.279 --> 01:16:05.439
<v Speaker 6>and disappearances on this channel, some in the woods and

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01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:08.239
<v Speaker 6>others while the person is going about their regular lives.

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01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:11.560
<v Speaker 6>When something happens to a person in the woods, or

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01:16:11.840 --> 01:16:15.000
<v Speaker 6>even when they're abducted, it's a little easier to understand

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01:16:15.079 --> 01:16:18.439
<v Speaker 6>how something like that could have happened. In most of

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01:16:18.479 --> 01:16:21.880
<v Speaker 6>these cases of abduction, at least, they are almost always

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01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:27.000
<v Speaker 6>clues to follow, and sometimes even an eyewitness to the event. However,

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01:16:27.279 --> 01:16:29.359
<v Speaker 6>when someone who is in the middle of a possible

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01:16:29.399 --> 01:16:32.840
<v Speaker 6>mental break or who is already having emotional trouble, it's

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01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:35.479
<v Speaker 6>hard to imagine how they could slip off the face

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01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:39.399
<v Speaker 6>of the earth, leaving no clues behind and unreliable witness

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01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:43.920
<v Speaker 6>statements at best and extremely confusing at worst. That's just

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01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:46.520
<v Speaker 6>some of what we're dealing with here in this case

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01:16:46.720 --> 01:16:49.840
<v Speaker 6>about the extremely bizarre and very concerning case of the

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01:16:49.920 --> 01:16:54.680
<v Speaker 6>vanishing of Asher Kramer in twenty fifteen, A twenty six

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01:16:54.720 --> 01:16:57.159
<v Speaker 6>year old woman named Asha Kramer was living with her

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01:16:57.199 --> 01:17:02.359
<v Speaker 6>boyfriend Jamia Gale and Albioncea, California. Asha was an Australian

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01:17:02.479 --> 01:17:04.920
<v Speaker 6>national and by all accounts, she was living her best

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01:17:04.960 --> 01:17:07.760
<v Speaker 6>life and she and Jemi were a happy couple together

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01:17:08.119 --> 01:17:12.000
<v Speaker 6>devoted each other. There were no known problems or issues

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01:17:12.039 --> 01:17:17.279
<v Speaker 6>in the relationship and all seemed perfectly normal. However, in

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<v Speaker 6>September that same year, Asha is reported to have started

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01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:24.359
<v Speaker 6>showing signs of some mental disturbance. She would suddenly and

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01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:27.279
<v Speaker 6>without warning, scream at the top of her lungs, shout

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<v Speaker 6>and rant, and would also go into justice sudden convulsions.

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<v Speaker 6>She would refuse to eat or sleep for days at

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<v Speaker 6>a time, staying up and starving herself for as long

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01:17:36.119 --> 01:17:39.079
<v Speaker 6>as she possibly could, for as long, it's said, as

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01:17:39.079 --> 01:17:42.720
<v Speaker 6>her body would let her. She was also constantly slipping

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01:17:42.800 --> 01:17:45.960
<v Speaker 6>in and out of catatonic trances, according to her living

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01:17:46.079 --> 01:17:49.840
<v Speaker 6>boyfriend Jami. Around this time, she also began discussing some

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01:17:49.960 --> 01:17:53.239
<v Speaker 6>vague childhood traumas she claims to happen to her, but

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01:17:53.359 --> 01:17:56.319
<v Speaker 6>she would never elaborate on what and when asked, she

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01:17:56.319 --> 01:17:59.000
<v Speaker 6>would either shut down or fly into a blind rage.

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<v Speaker 6>Concerned for her welfare understandably, and this, combined with her

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01:18:03.680 --> 01:18:06.439
<v Speaker 6>going four straight days without eating, forced him to bring

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01:18:06.479 --> 01:18:09.399
<v Speaker 6>her in for an evaluation at a local mental health facility.

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<v Speaker 6>Asha had no previous history of having any sort of

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01:18:12.479 --> 01:18:15.359
<v Speaker 6>mental health issues, and even though there was a bit

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01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:17.520
<v Speaker 6>of history of it in her family, she had never

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01:18:17.640 --> 01:18:20.960
<v Speaker 6>shown any signs of anything like this up until this point.

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<v Speaker 6>When nothing was found to be physically wrong with her,

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01:18:23.880 --> 01:18:26.880
<v Speaker 6>the mental health doctors all concluded that she was indeed

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01:18:26.920 --> 01:18:30.199
<v Speaker 6>suffering from some sort of psychotic break and possibly a

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<v Speaker 6>quote manic bipolar episode end quote. Now the staff at

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01:18:34.800 --> 01:18:37.079
<v Speaker 6>this institution deemed her not to be a danger to

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01:18:37.119 --> 01:18:40.319
<v Speaker 6>herself for others, though, and despite them finding she was

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01:18:40.399 --> 01:18:43.359
<v Speaker 6>experiencing a mental health crisis, they released her back into

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01:18:43.359 --> 01:18:45.960
<v Speaker 6>the custody of her boyfriend, who had no choice but

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01:18:46.039 --> 01:18:48.199
<v Speaker 6>to take her back home with him. This was the

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<v Speaker 6>beginning of what would end up being an extremely strange

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01:18:50.960 --> 01:18:55.279
<v Speaker 6>and bizarre and still unsolved disappearance. The issue seemed to

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01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:58.359
<v Speaker 6>continue right from the hospital when she was released, because

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01:18:58.359 --> 01:19:02.000
<v Speaker 6>her boyfriend reported that wild drive home, she randomly confessed

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01:19:02.039 --> 01:19:04.159
<v Speaker 6>she had cheated on him, and then proceeded to try

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01:19:04.199 --> 01:19:07.000
<v Speaker 6>and jump from the moving vehicle. Despite all of this,

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01:19:07.319 --> 01:19:09.720
<v Speaker 6>the two made it back to their apartment, and Jamia

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01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:13.079
<v Speaker 6>was relieved when one of Asha's lifelong friends from Australia

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01:19:13.399 --> 01:19:16.199
<v Speaker 6>decided to come to California to visit, and he was

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01:19:16.239 --> 01:19:18.840
<v Speaker 6>hoping that maybe seeing and spending time with this friend,

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01:19:19.079 --> 01:19:22.399
<v Speaker 6>whose name was Sally Scales, would help bring Asha out

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01:19:22.439 --> 01:19:25.840
<v Speaker 6>of whatever this was that she was going through. Once home,

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01:19:26.199 --> 01:19:29.560
<v Speaker 6>Osha started confessing to murdering her neighbor, who was very

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<v Speaker 6>much alive at the time. She was refusing to sleep

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01:19:33.279 --> 01:19:35.840
<v Speaker 6>and that very night burning a piece of paper and

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01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:39.640
<v Speaker 6>trying several times to start her car. It's unknown what

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01:19:39.680 --> 01:19:41.640
<v Speaker 6>the paper was she was burning and while she was

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01:19:41.720 --> 01:19:44.960
<v Speaker 6>unable to start her car, what her efforts were for naught.

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<v Speaker 6>At one point during the night, after being released to

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01:19:47.479 --> 01:19:50.840
<v Speaker 6>the custody of her boyfriend, he and OSHA's best friend Sally,

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01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:53.720
<v Speaker 6>found her outside and after searching for her for a

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01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:57.479
<v Speaker 6>few minutes, they found her standing very still behind a tree.

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<v Speaker 6>She had been watching them search for the whole time,

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01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:03.079
<v Speaker 6>but hadn't said a word or moved it all. On

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01:20:03.159 --> 01:20:05.960
<v Speaker 6>another occasion, while her friend was still visiting and staying

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01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:08.720
<v Speaker 6>with her and Jamia, she went outside in the midll

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01:20:08.760 --> 01:20:11.119
<v Speaker 6>of the night and started running full speed away from

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01:20:11.159 --> 01:20:13.279
<v Speaker 6>the two of them, and they couldn't catch up with her.

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<v Speaker 6>She eventually came back though that same night and explained

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01:20:17.680 --> 01:20:21.680
<v Speaker 6>she had simply felt like running throughout all of this insanity.

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01:20:21.800 --> 01:20:24.279
<v Speaker 6>She was also refusing to eat and was said to

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01:20:24.319 --> 01:20:28.960
<v Speaker 6>be generally acting bizarrely and completely out of character. The

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01:20:29.079 --> 01:20:32.800
<v Speaker 6>morning after the running incident, both Jamia and Sally thought

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01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:34.239
<v Speaker 6>it would be good to get Ash out of the

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01:20:34.239 --> 01:20:36.920
<v Speaker 6>house during the daytime and let her get some fresh

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01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:39.239
<v Speaker 6>air in order to maybe help her get her head

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01:20:39.239 --> 01:20:42.399
<v Speaker 6>straight again. They wanted her to go back to being

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01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:45.079
<v Speaker 6>the young and vibrant woman they knew so well and

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01:20:45.119 --> 01:20:48.239
<v Speaker 6>love so much. The three of them got into the

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<v Speaker 6>car and embarked on the approximately three hour drive from

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01:20:51.119 --> 01:20:55.319
<v Speaker 6>albiond to San Francisco to see Asha's mother. The hope

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01:20:55.560 --> 01:20:57.359
<v Speaker 6>was that seeing her mother would help to put her

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<v Speaker 6>life into perspective again, ease her mind, and bring her

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01:21:00.640 --> 01:21:02.399
<v Speaker 6>out of whatever it was in her mind that was

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01:21:02.439 --> 01:21:05.199
<v Speaker 6>causing this funk. It was a lofty hope and a

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01:21:05.199 --> 01:21:07.199
<v Speaker 6>shot in the dark, for sure, but he didn't know

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<v Speaker 6>what else to do, and Sally agreed that this was

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01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:13.479
<v Speaker 6>a good idea. Little did they know, though, that this

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01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:16.760
<v Speaker 6>one well meaning decision would change the course of all

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01:21:16.760 --> 01:21:19.159
<v Speaker 6>through their lives forever and be the start of a

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01:21:19.199 --> 01:21:23.039
<v Speaker 6>mystery that still continues to this very day. At some

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01:21:23.159 --> 01:21:25.640
<v Speaker 6>point early on in their trip, they all stopped to

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01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:28.680
<v Speaker 6>have breakfast at a place called the Rollerville Cafe, which

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01:21:28.720 --> 01:21:32.960
<v Speaker 6>was near Point Arena in Ploomeville. While at the table

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<v Speaker 6>and ordering their food, Asha refused to speak or make

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01:21:35.960 --> 01:21:38.680
<v Speaker 6>eye contact with the waitress and wouldn't touch her meal.

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01:21:39.800 --> 01:21:43.680
<v Speaker 6>Jamia and Sally decided not to leave despite OSHA's odd behavior,

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01:21:43.880 --> 01:21:48.199
<v Speaker 6>because she wasn't being overbly obnoxious. She was simply acting strangely,

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01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:51.880
<v Speaker 6>which by now they were becoming somewhat used to. Unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 6>During their meal, Sally excused herself to go to the

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01:21:55.359 --> 01:21:58.960
<v Speaker 6>ladies room and walked in that direction. A minute or

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01:21:58.960 --> 01:22:01.319
<v Speaker 6>so later, Osha said she also had to go to

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01:22:01.359 --> 01:22:04.880
<v Speaker 6>the restroom and got up, seemingly following closely behind her

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01:22:04.880 --> 01:22:09.560
<v Speaker 6>best friend. After a few minutes had passed, Sally returned

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01:22:09.560 --> 01:22:13.640
<v Speaker 6>to the table without Asha. When Jemia asked where Asha was,

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01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:16.279
<v Speaker 6>Sally told him that Asha had never come into the

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01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:20.000
<v Speaker 6>restroom at all, and she didn't know where she'd gone.

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01:22:20.319 --> 01:22:22.720
<v Speaker 6>Jamai was sure Asha had gone in the direction of

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01:22:22.760 --> 01:22:25.239
<v Speaker 6>the restroom, but when he and Sally went back to

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01:22:25.239 --> 01:22:28.640
<v Speaker 6>look for she wasn't in there and nowhere inside at all.

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<v Speaker 6>The restaurants staff and even some of the other customers

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01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:34.439
<v Speaker 6>helped the two of them search the general vicinity and

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01:22:34.479 --> 01:22:38.319
<v Speaker 6>surrounding areas for Usha, but to no avail, And despite

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01:22:38.359 --> 01:22:42.079
<v Speaker 6>being called almost immediately, the authorities didn't have any more luck.

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01:22:43.159 --> 01:22:45.600
<v Speaker 6>No one could find Asha, and no one had any

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01:22:45.640 --> 01:22:49.439
<v Speaker 6>idea where she possibly could have gone. It's another case

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01:22:49.479 --> 01:22:52.039
<v Speaker 6>of someone being there one moment and gone the next,

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01:22:52.439 --> 01:22:56.239
<v Speaker 6>disappeared in the blink of an eye. After searching in

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01:22:56.319 --> 01:22:59.520
<v Speaker 6>and around the restaurant, the police expanded their search efforts.

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01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:03.000
<v Speaker 6>When they did, they found their first clue on a

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01:23:03.039 --> 01:23:06.840
<v Speaker 6>trail near the Point Arena lighthouse. They found OSHA's jacket

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01:23:07.119 --> 01:23:09.239
<v Speaker 6>this garden lying there on the side of the trail.

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01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:13.720
<v Speaker 6>The first thought of everyone involved was that perhaps due

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01:23:13.720 --> 01:23:16.279
<v Speaker 6>to her recent mental state, Asha had jumped to her

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01:23:16.319 --> 01:23:20.439
<v Speaker 6>death into the dark and rough sea below the lighthouse itself. However,

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01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:24.560
<v Speaker 6>there was never any evidence to corroborate this, no signs

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01:23:24.560 --> 01:23:29.439
<v Speaker 6>she'd approach the ledge and nobody ever washed up. Other

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01:23:29.479 --> 01:23:31.760
<v Speaker 6>clues soon turned up, but each one seemed to only

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01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:35.880
<v Speaker 6>further confuse the mystery. OSHA's cell phone was eventually found

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01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:38.239
<v Speaker 6>in some bushes near the home she shared with Jemia,

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01:23:38.359 --> 01:23:40.520
<v Speaker 6>and it was later found that two messages had been

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01:23:40.520 --> 01:23:43.520
<v Speaker 6>deleted from it. This seems to have been done very

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01:23:43.520 --> 01:23:46.840
<v Speaker 6>close to when she disappeared, but the authorities could never

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01:23:46.920 --> 01:23:50.520
<v Speaker 6>tell if her phone or the deleted messages had anything

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01:23:50.560 --> 01:23:53.439
<v Speaker 6>to do with their disappearance, and the contents of those

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01:23:53.479 --> 01:23:57.960
<v Speaker 6>messages have never been released to the public. Several witnesses

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01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:00.359
<v Speaker 6>did come forward claiming to have seen a woman matching

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01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:04.800
<v Speaker 6>OSHA's description on or near the day she disappeared, but sadly,

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01:24:05.119 --> 01:24:07.640
<v Speaker 6>none of these sightings could ever be confirmed as actually

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01:24:07.680 --> 01:24:11.000
<v Speaker 6>being Asha. One witness came forward and said he had

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01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:13.279
<v Speaker 6>seen Asha at the beach on the day she disappeared,

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01:24:13.960 --> 01:24:15.880
<v Speaker 6>and another person claimed to have seen her in a

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01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:20.680
<v Speaker 6>grocery store four days after she'd gone missing. Despite the

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01:24:20.720 --> 01:24:24.439
<v Speaker 6>authorities working tirelessly on this case and her family continuing

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01:24:24.479 --> 01:24:27.840
<v Speaker 6>their search never giving up hope, no new leeds or

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01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:31.720
<v Speaker 6>clues have ever come up or been found. Many people

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01:24:31.800 --> 01:24:34.680
<v Speaker 6>familiar with this case agree that the extreme shifts in

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01:24:34.800 --> 01:24:37.800
<v Speaker 6>OSHA's personality, plus the fact that she seems to have

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01:24:37.840 --> 01:24:40.680
<v Speaker 6>disappeared right before the eyes of not just her boyfriend

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01:24:40.920 --> 01:24:44.000
<v Speaker 6>and her best friend Sally, but of many other potential

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01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:46.880
<v Speaker 6>witnesses in the form of customers at the restaurant that day.

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<v Speaker 6>There are several theories, and as we go through some

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01:24:50.560 --> 01:24:53.159
<v Speaker 6>of them, please keep in mind that no one has

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01:24:53.199 --> 01:24:56.359
<v Speaker 6>ever been charged with anything relating to her disappearance, and

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01:24:56.399 --> 01:24:58.920
<v Speaker 6>there's never been any mention by the authorities of any

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01:24:58.960 --> 01:25:03.520
<v Speaker 6>sort of foul play. The most widespread theory is that

1442
01:25:03.600 --> 01:25:08.279
<v Speaker 6>OSHA's boyfriend was involved somehow in her disappearance. Again, this

1443
01:25:08.399 --> 01:25:11.479
<v Speaker 6>is unsubstantiated. No one has been named as a suspect

1444
01:25:11.840 --> 01:25:14.840
<v Speaker 6>or a person of interest. Many people put a lot

1445
01:25:14.880 --> 01:25:16.640
<v Speaker 6>of stock in the fact that her cell phone was

1446
01:25:16.680 --> 01:25:20.399
<v Speaker 6>found with messages recentably deleted, and the bushes near home

1447
01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:24.159
<v Speaker 6>not long after a disappearance, with OSHA's state of mind

1448
01:25:24.159 --> 01:25:26.439
<v Speaker 6>in the time leading up to the disappearance, and how

1449
01:25:26.439 --> 01:25:28.960
<v Speaker 6>many times she was caught hiding in the bushes or

1450
01:25:29.079 --> 01:25:32.199
<v Speaker 6>running around in her night clothes. The authorities haven't named

1451
01:25:32.199 --> 01:25:34.399
<v Speaker 6>anyone as a person of interest, and it's in the

1452
01:25:34.479 --> 01:25:37.319
<v Speaker 6>end unknown whether or not this theory holds much water.

1453
01:25:38.720 --> 01:25:41.159
<v Speaker 6>Another theory is that perhaps she had a full blown

1454
01:25:41.239 --> 01:25:45.079
<v Speaker 6>psychotic break and perhaps suffered some form of amnesia due

1455
01:25:45.079 --> 01:25:47.520
<v Speaker 6>to the seeming severity of her mental state leading up

1456
01:25:47.560 --> 01:25:51.079
<v Speaker 6>to the time she disappeared. Is Asha out there somewhere

1457
01:25:51.239 --> 01:25:54.199
<v Speaker 6>wandering around not knowing who or perhaps even where she is.

1458
01:25:55.399 --> 01:25:58.039
<v Speaker 6>This is thought to be the best case scenario, and

1459
01:25:58.079 --> 01:26:00.840
<v Speaker 6>if it is true, we hope that desperading the word

1460
01:26:00.880 --> 01:26:05.840
<v Speaker 6>about her strange and tragic disappearance, perhaps someone somewhere will

1461
01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:09.279
<v Speaker 6>come across her and realize who she is. There's also

1462
01:26:09.279 --> 01:26:12.560
<v Speaker 6>a lot of speculation regarding where Osh's jacket was found

1463
01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:15.079
<v Speaker 6>the day she disappeared, and some people who put weight

1464
01:26:15.119 --> 01:26:17.920
<v Speaker 6>on this clue think perhaps she did take her own

1465
01:26:17.960 --> 01:26:21.359
<v Speaker 6>life right there at the lighthouse. Maybe she did it

1466
01:26:21.399 --> 01:26:25.119
<v Speaker 6>unknowingly and thought, interfrazzled and confused state of mind that

1467
01:26:25.239 --> 01:26:28.199
<v Speaker 6>she was just going for a swim. Maybe, though, if

1468
01:26:28.239 --> 01:26:30.680
<v Speaker 6>she did go under the water, she did it on purpose,

1469
01:26:31.359 --> 01:26:35.039
<v Speaker 6>there's just no way of really knowing. One more theory

1470
01:26:35.119 --> 01:26:37.279
<v Speaker 6>is that Asha wandered off on purpose to start a

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01:26:37.319 --> 01:26:40.800
<v Speaker 6>new life somewhere as the pressures of her relationship and

1472
01:26:40.840 --> 01:26:42.840
<v Speaker 6>everything else she was going through and dealing with in

1473
01:26:42.840 --> 01:26:45.319
<v Speaker 6>her life got to her and she just doesn't want

1474
01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:49.319
<v Speaker 6>to be found. Her family and those who knew her best, though,

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01:26:49.479 --> 01:26:52.680
<v Speaker 6>say this isn't possible, and that if Ash had done

1476
01:26:52.720 --> 01:26:55.319
<v Speaker 6>this in seeing how much her loved ones were and

1477
01:26:55.399 --> 01:26:58.359
<v Speaker 6>still are suffering, she would have at the very least

1478
01:26:58.680 --> 01:27:01.640
<v Speaker 6>reached out to at least one of them. But she've

1479
01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:04.079
<v Speaker 6>just wandered off and come across someone who had less

1480
01:27:04.079 --> 01:27:08.199
<v Speaker 6>than honorable intentions. Again, like everything else we mentioned here,

1481
01:27:08.439 --> 01:27:14.039
<v Speaker 6>it is a possibility, however unlikely it may be. Regardless

1482
01:27:14.079 --> 01:27:21.520
<v Speaker 6>of all the theories, thoughts, speculations, the mystery certainly remains well. Friends,

1483
01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:24.039
<v Speaker 6>there you have it. What do you think of this

1484
01:27:24.159 --> 01:27:28.119
<v Speaker 6>strange disappearance? I look forward to your comments, but please

1485
01:27:28.279 --> 01:27:32.680
<v Speaker 6>keep it friendly and respectful. Till we meet again. Be

1486
01:27:32.760 --> 01:27:35.760
<v Speaker 6>good to yourselves and each other. Stay safe out there.

1487
01:27:37.239 --> 01:27:39.600
<v Speaker 6>As for me, I'll see you a little farther on

1488
01:27:39.640 --> 01:27:43.239
<v Speaker 6>down the trail. I'm Steve Stockton, and I'll talk to

1489
01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:48.399
<v Speaker 6>you next time. Hold your animals close and tell them

1490
01:27:48.479 --> 01:27:57.800
<v Speaker 6>I said hi, Hello, friends, Steve's talking here with you today.

1491
01:27:57.880 --> 01:28:01.439
<v Speaker 6>We're bringing you an unusual case, calling it seven years

1492
01:28:01.479 --> 01:28:06.399
<v Speaker 6>without an answer. The strange disappearance of Jesse Farber. Let's

1493
01:28:06.439 --> 01:28:11.079
<v Speaker 6>walk and see. On August eleventh, twenty fifteen, twenty nine

1494
01:28:11.119 --> 01:28:14.239
<v Speaker 6>year old Jesse Farber, also known as Rex, called his

1495
01:28:14.279 --> 01:28:16.560
<v Speaker 6>girlfriend in a panic and conveyed to her that he

1496
01:28:16.640 --> 01:28:19.039
<v Speaker 6>was being chased by coyotes and was in a tree.

1497
01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:22.600
<v Speaker 6>Barbara was walking in the Tamaqua, Pennsylvania area, near a

1498
01:28:22.640 --> 01:28:25.000
<v Speaker 6>place called the Coal Hills when he set a pack

1499
01:28:25.039 --> 01:28:27.560
<v Speaker 6>of coyoties chased him up a tree, purting to his

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01:28:27.600 --> 01:28:30.520
<v Speaker 6>girlfriend Rachel Carroll, who were going to talk to in

1501
01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:34.359
<v Speaker 6>an exclusive interview. Towards the end of this video, at

1502
01:28:34.359 --> 01:28:36.880
<v Speaker 6>around seven to twenty pm, a man reported seeing Farber

1503
01:28:36.920 --> 01:28:39.319
<v Speaker 6>walking around the s curves on Hunter Street, headed south

1504
01:28:39.359 --> 01:28:42.199
<v Speaker 6>away from Tamaqua. This area leads to the trail that

1505
01:28:42.239 --> 01:28:45.439
<v Speaker 6>has coal fields littered with mining holes in the ground,

1506
01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:48.760
<v Speaker 6>some as deep as one hundred and forty feet. Tamacott

1507
01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:52.760
<v Speaker 6>Police Chief Henry Wood stated it was possible Farber imagined

1508
01:28:52.840 --> 01:28:56.119
<v Speaker 6>coyotes in some sort of hallucination before he ran and

1509
01:28:56.159 --> 01:28:58.199
<v Speaker 6>fell into one of the hundreds of deep coal pits

1510
01:28:58.239 --> 01:29:01.840
<v Speaker 6>on the mountain. Police Chief Woods went on to say,

1511
01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:05.000
<v Speaker 6>our theory is that he was under the influence thinking

1512
01:29:05.079 --> 01:29:07.239
<v Speaker 6>cowodies were chasing him, and he comes down from the

1513
01:29:07.279 --> 01:29:09.960
<v Speaker 6>tree and he runs west, runs all the way by

1514
01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:14.760
<v Speaker 6>these stripping holes and falls into one Norma Fritz Jesse.

1515
01:29:14.960 --> 01:29:18.800
<v Speaker 6>Faber's mother thinks otherwise, though there's been talk about a

1516
01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:21.720
<v Speaker 6>little drug gang and lots of rumors that they did

1517
01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:24.760
<v Speaker 6>away with him, that it wasn't animals chasing him at all,

1518
01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:28.119
<v Speaker 6>it was a gang called the Cooties. His rumors that

1519
01:29:28.159 --> 01:29:30.640
<v Speaker 6>he was shot and put through a wood shipper, that's

1520
01:29:30.680 --> 01:29:34.520
<v Speaker 6>the most horrendous rumor, the grieving mother said. Police have

1521
01:29:34.600 --> 01:29:37.079
<v Speaker 6>followed the rumors and have found no supporting evidence that

1522
01:29:37.119 --> 01:29:41.520
<v Speaker 6>the rumors are true. In December of twenty sixteen, a

1523
01:29:41.560 --> 01:29:43.800
<v Speaker 6>man hunting in the area where Farber said he was

1524
01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:46.560
<v Speaker 6>not a pair of sweatpants, and knowing about the case,

1525
01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:50.239
<v Speaker 6>called Farber's grandparents to identify the piece of clothing. While

1526
01:29:50.279 --> 01:29:52.439
<v Speaker 6>in the area, and having established that the pants did

1527
01:29:52.439 --> 01:29:55.720
<v Speaker 6>in fact belongs to their grandson, the grandmother spotted a

1528
01:29:55.720 --> 01:29:58.479
<v Speaker 6>bag tied in the tree near where the sweatpants were found.

1529
01:29:59.119 --> 01:30:01.960
<v Speaker 6>Allegedly iteams in the bag also belonged to Farber, which

1530
01:30:01.960 --> 01:30:05.119
<v Speaker 6>included a pen his grandfather had given him. The police

1531
01:30:05.159 --> 01:30:07.000
<v Speaker 6>were able to use the area where the items were

1532
01:30:07.000 --> 01:30:09.920
<v Speaker 6>found to piece together timeline with the eyewitness sighting at

1533
01:30:09.960 --> 01:30:12.960
<v Speaker 6>seven to twenty pm on August eleventh, twenty fifteen, when

1534
01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:15.800
<v Speaker 6>Farbert was spotted by passing motorists and when the phone

1535
01:30:15.800 --> 01:30:18.840
<v Speaker 6>call was placed to his girlfriend. Police stated that it

1536
01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:21.000
<v Speaker 6>takes an hour and forty nine minutes to walk from

1537
01:30:21.039 --> 01:30:23.520
<v Speaker 6>the s Curve where the motors saw Farbr to the

1538
01:30:23.560 --> 01:30:27.199
<v Speaker 6>coal Hill tree where the items were found. Woods went

1539
01:30:27.239 --> 01:30:30.079
<v Speaker 6>on to say if Farber were panicked and went running

1540
01:30:30.119 --> 01:30:32.640
<v Speaker 6>moments later, he probably plunged down a deep hole in

1541
01:30:32.640 --> 01:30:35.479
<v Speaker 6>the dark. The holes are all around the path and

1542
01:30:35.520 --> 01:30:37.560
<v Speaker 6>there's no way you could run through there without falling

1543
01:30:37.600 --> 01:30:41.680
<v Speaker 6>into one of those holes. Immediately after Farber was reported missing,

1544
01:30:41.960 --> 01:30:44.399
<v Speaker 6>search and rescue teams descended on the area and began

1545
01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:46.840
<v Speaker 6>to search for him. This was the area where he

1546
01:30:46.880 --> 01:30:50.079
<v Speaker 6>was initially reported as being They went up behind the

1547
01:30:50.159 --> 01:30:53.560
<v Speaker 6>high school yelling for him, and they didn't hear anything. Actually,

1548
01:30:53.600 --> 01:30:55.439
<v Speaker 6>they were nowhere close to where the bag was found

1549
01:30:55.439 --> 01:30:59.680
<v Speaker 6>in the tree. It was miles away. Wood stated. Barber's

1550
01:30:59.720 --> 01:31:02.079
<v Speaker 6>mother said that she'd been to the Skinny Tree several

1551
01:31:02.079 --> 01:31:04.399
<v Speaker 6>times since her son went missing, and said she had

1552
01:31:04.600 --> 01:31:07.000
<v Speaker 6>no sense that her son died on that mountain, or

1553
01:31:07.039 --> 01:31:10.199
<v Speaker 6>that her son would wander off, frighten my visions of cowties,

1554
01:31:10.520 --> 01:31:13.800
<v Speaker 6>climb any tree, then run off a cliff. She also

1555
01:31:13.880 --> 01:31:16.159
<v Speaker 6>doubts that Farvard left a sweat pants and bag in

1556
01:31:16.199 --> 01:31:19.319
<v Speaker 6>the tree and thinks that evidence was planted, adding that

1557
01:31:19.359 --> 01:31:21.560
<v Speaker 6>it was more likely the Cavity Gang they planted the

1558
01:31:21.560 --> 01:31:25.199
<v Speaker 6>items to throw police off the investigation. Fritz wants the

1559
01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:28.239
<v Speaker 6>police to investigate the drug gang angle and believes they

1560
01:31:28.359 --> 01:31:32.319
<v Speaker 6>targeted her son. I personally eat, sleep and breathe looking

1561
01:31:32.319 --> 01:31:35.560
<v Speaker 6>for my son, and the police they're physically not doing anything,

1562
01:31:35.640 --> 01:31:38.039
<v Speaker 6>Fritz stated when asked how she thought the police were

1563
01:31:38.039 --> 01:31:41.640
<v Speaker 6>handling the case. Tamica police, however, say that they have

1564
01:31:41.720 --> 01:31:44.880
<v Speaker 6>investigated the gang angle and have even offered several people

1565
01:31:44.960 --> 01:31:47.600
<v Speaker 6>arresting a deal if they can provide information as to

1566
01:31:47.640 --> 01:31:50.840
<v Speaker 6>the whereabouts and farver, but no one knew anything. According

1567
01:31:50.840 --> 01:31:54.000
<v Speaker 6>to the police, there have been several searches done with

1568
01:31:54.039 --> 01:31:56.399
<v Speaker 6>cadaver dogs that have turned up nothing, but the police

1569
01:31:56.399 --> 01:32:01.279
<v Speaker 6>staid there're still willing to keep searching. Eleven was the

1570
01:32:01.319 --> 01:32:05.359
<v Speaker 6>seventh anniversary of Jesse Fober's disappearance. His mother has set

1571
01:32:05.439 --> 01:32:08.000
<v Speaker 6>up a Facebook page for outside tips and information from

1572
01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:11.720
<v Speaker 6>the public. Terms for Jesse Fober missing will have a

1573
01:32:11.760 --> 01:32:15.920
<v Speaker 6>link in the description. This case also caused new legislation

1574
01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:18.640
<v Speaker 6>to be passed in how missing persons cases are handled

1575
01:32:18.640 --> 01:32:22.239
<v Speaker 6>in the state. Norma Jeene fitz Yasko helped get a

1576
01:32:22.239 --> 01:32:25.000
<v Speaker 6>bill pass that requires law enforcement to collect the person's

1577
01:32:25.119 --> 01:32:27.880
<v Speaker 6>DNA within ten days of them being reported missing and

1578
01:32:28.039 --> 01:32:32.039
<v Speaker 6>entering into NAMOS, a national DNA database. Currently, there are

1579
01:32:32.079 --> 01:32:35.520
<v Speaker 6>only ten states with such laws, with Pennsylvania making the eleven.

1580
01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:38.880
<v Speaker 6>On average, there are about six hundred and sixty thousand

1581
01:32:38.880 --> 01:32:41.960
<v Speaker 6>people reported missing, and Pennsylvania ranks tenth in the nation

1582
01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:45.279
<v Speaker 6>with unsolved missing person cases at four hundred and sixty seven.

1583
01:32:45.960 --> 01:32:49.159
<v Speaker 6>NamUs also allows family members to enner information about their

1584
01:32:49.159 --> 01:32:51.760
<v Speaker 6>missing load ones, which could aid in helping them to

1585
01:32:51.800 --> 01:32:55.279
<v Speaker 6>be found. Do you have any information on the whereabouts

1586
01:32:55.279 --> 01:32:57.600
<v Speaker 6>of Jesse Farber or any details about the night he

1587
01:32:57.640 --> 01:33:01.720
<v Speaker 6>went missing, Please contact the Tamacow Police Department at five

1588
01:33:01.800 --> 01:33:06.119
<v Speaker 6>seven zero six six eight five zero zero zero and

1589
01:33:06.199 --> 01:33:09.960
<v Speaker 6>reference name is case I D three zero seven three two.

1590
01:33:11.359 --> 01:33:14.680
<v Speaker 6>And now here's that exclusive interview with Jesse's ex girlfriend

1591
01:33:14.800 --> 01:33:18.920
<v Speaker 6>and the mother of his children. Steve's talking here missing

1592
01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:21.880
<v Speaker 6>Persons and Mysteries. Today on the phone with me is

1593
01:33:22.039 --> 01:33:24.960
<v Speaker 6>Rachel Carroll, who reached out to us to help her

1594
01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:28.560
<v Speaker 6>find the father of her children who went missing in

1595
01:33:28.600 --> 01:33:32.399
<v Speaker 6>the woods seven years ago. Yesterday, Rachel, how are you

1596
01:33:32.399 --> 01:33:32.960
<v Speaker 6>doing today?

1597
01:33:33.439 --> 01:33:34.359
<v Speaker 10>Pretty good? How are you?

1598
01:33:34.680 --> 01:33:37.399
<v Speaker 6>I'm doing good And I understand that that's probably a

1599
01:33:37.439 --> 01:33:40.399
<v Speaker 6>hard anniversary for you anytime the time of the year

1600
01:33:40.439 --> 01:33:45.079
<v Speaker 6>comes around again, especially your children. Yes, yeah, but want

1601
01:33:45.079 --> 01:33:46.960
<v Speaker 6>to say thank you for reaching out to us. We'd

1602
01:33:46.960 --> 01:33:49.640
<v Speaker 6>love to help keep his name out there and boost

1603
01:33:49.640 --> 01:33:51.359
<v Speaker 6>the signal and get it in front of him.

1604
01:33:51.439 --> 01:33:51.840
<v Speaker 10>Thank you.

1605
01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:55.399
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, absolutely, So if you would there, go ahead, and

1606
01:33:55.439 --> 01:33:58.760
<v Speaker 6>it's a strange case, go ahead there and tell us

1607
01:33:58.840 --> 01:34:00.720
<v Speaker 6>your version of what happened.

1608
01:34:01.159 --> 01:34:01.520
<v Speaker 10>Okay.

1609
01:34:01.640 --> 01:34:06.119
<v Speaker 11>So. Jesse Foarnber, also known as Jesse Wreck, he went

1610
01:34:06.239 --> 01:34:11.119
<v Speaker 11>missing on August eleventh, twoenty fifteen, into Maak with Pa.

1611
01:34:12.279 --> 01:34:15.840
<v Speaker 11>What happened was is that Jesse called me at eight

1612
01:34:15.920 --> 01:34:20.119
<v Speaker 11>forty three pm. The first thing he told me was

1613
01:34:20.199 --> 01:34:23.479
<v Speaker 11>to bring guns. He said he was in the mountain

1614
01:34:23.520 --> 01:34:26.920
<v Speaker 11>behind the Timokher Area High School. He told me he

1615
01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:29.880
<v Speaker 11>was in a tree and attend to eleven coyotes were

1616
01:34:29.920 --> 01:34:30.479
<v Speaker 11>after him.

1617
01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:34.000
<v Speaker 10>He also said that his phone was about to die.

1618
01:34:34.920 --> 01:34:37.920
<v Speaker 11>He switched his location from the high school to the

1619
01:34:37.960 --> 01:34:41.000
<v Speaker 11>elementary school mountain, and then he went back to the

1620
01:34:41.079 --> 01:34:44.720
<v Speaker 11>high school. When I asked him for sure where he was,

1621
01:34:45.199 --> 01:34:45.760
<v Speaker 11>he said.

1622
01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:48.279
<v Speaker 10>To high school. And I asked him again, he said, yeah,

1623
01:34:48.319 --> 01:34:50.800
<v Speaker 10>the high school. And just as I.

1624
01:34:50.760 --> 01:34:55.199
<v Speaker 11>Asked him for his exact location there, he started to

1625
01:34:55.239 --> 01:34:59.199
<v Speaker 11>speak and then his phone hung up. I called back

1626
01:34:59.319 --> 01:35:03.000
<v Speaker 11>immediately a bunch of times, and it just went right

1627
01:35:03.039 --> 01:35:06.520
<v Speaker 11>to the voicemail. And so within just a few minutes,

1628
01:35:07.359 --> 01:35:10.479
<v Speaker 11>I went right up to the high school mountain and

1629
01:35:10.760 --> 01:35:13.039
<v Speaker 11>me and my brother were up there searching for quite

1630
01:35:13.079 --> 01:35:17.359
<v Speaker 11>a while. We were driving around, beeping, We turned the

1631
01:35:17.399 --> 01:35:20.560
<v Speaker 11>car off and listen. We walked around on foot. We

1632
01:35:20.560 --> 01:35:23.760
<v Speaker 11>were yelling to him, and there was nothing up there

1633
01:35:23.800 --> 01:35:27.239
<v Speaker 11>at all. There was We couldn't find anything. So then

1634
01:35:27.279 --> 01:35:29.560
<v Speaker 11>after we were up there for a few hours, I

1635
01:35:29.680 --> 01:35:33.279
<v Speaker 11>went and I called it to Michael Police and they

1636
01:35:33.319 --> 01:35:36.720
<v Speaker 11>took a report and they put him on They said

1637
01:35:36.720 --> 01:35:40.399
<v Speaker 11>it was like a national missing person's list or whatever. Immediately,

1638
01:35:41.279 --> 01:35:46.920
<v Speaker 11>and so after that, you know, searches were involved. There

1639
01:35:46.920 --> 01:35:49.920
<v Speaker 11>were searches on foot, cad iver dogs, there was a

1640
01:35:49.960 --> 01:35:54.319
<v Speaker 11>search of an air shaft, there was underwater searches. There

1641
01:35:54.359 --> 01:35:59.319
<v Speaker 11>was drones, military helicopters, A lot of things were done,

1642
01:36:00.359 --> 01:36:04.199
<v Speaker 11>but nothing was ever found. And his book bag was

1643
01:36:04.239 --> 01:36:08.359
<v Speaker 11>found later I think it was December of twenty sixteen,

1644
01:36:08.399 --> 01:36:13.279
<v Speaker 11>where his family identified it as his. But in my opinion,

1645
01:36:13.560 --> 01:36:15.840
<v Speaker 11>I don't believe that that is his bag. I was

1646
01:36:15.880 --> 01:36:18.960
<v Speaker 11>never able to see that bag myself. I can't even

1647
01:36:18.960 --> 01:36:22.119
<v Speaker 11>get to look at a picture of it or anything

1648
01:36:22.159 --> 01:36:28.119
<v Speaker 11>to know for sure. And pretty much that's where I'm

1649
01:36:28.119 --> 01:36:30.920
<v Speaker 11>at now. I'm looking for help in any way that

1650
01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:34.399
<v Speaker 11>I can to get more searches done or get any

1651
01:36:34.479 --> 01:36:38.520
<v Speaker 11>groups or organizations that will help me in spreading his

1652
01:36:38.640 --> 01:36:42.880
<v Speaker 11>name and his story and hopefully in finding answers and

1653
01:36:42.920 --> 01:36:43.720
<v Speaker 11>bringing him home.

1654
01:36:44.680 --> 01:36:47.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we're happy to help you spread that awareness and

1655
01:36:47.439 --> 01:36:50.239
<v Speaker 6>keep his name out there. Understand that you have two

1656
01:36:50.279 --> 01:36:53.359
<v Speaker 6>young children together, and you said earlier that they suffer

1657
01:36:53.439 --> 01:36:55.880
<v Speaker 6>his disappearance every day, so that's got to be rough

1658
01:36:55.920 --> 01:36:56.319
<v Speaker 6>on them.

1659
01:36:57.520 --> 01:37:02.000
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it is the hard they're doing, Okay, I mean

1660
01:37:02.039 --> 01:37:05.079
<v Speaker 11>they have a hard time every now and then, but

1661
01:37:05.560 --> 01:37:06.840
<v Speaker 11>they're doing the best they could.

1662
01:37:06.840 --> 01:37:11.880
<v Speaker 6>They're strong, God bless them. Now you mentioned I have

1663
01:37:12.199 --> 01:37:14.199
<v Speaker 6>just a couple of questions here for you that we're

1664
01:37:14.239 --> 01:37:17.000
<v Speaker 6>putting together a video here to go along with this.

1665
01:37:17.479 --> 01:37:19.600
<v Speaker 6>But now you mentioned that it was he said there

1666
01:37:19.680 --> 01:37:22.800
<v Speaker 6>was ten or eleven coyotes that chased him up a tree.

1667
01:37:22.840 --> 01:37:23.520
<v Speaker 6>Is that correct?

1668
01:37:23.960 --> 01:37:25.920
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, that's what he told me. He said he was

1669
01:37:26.279 --> 01:37:28.479
<v Speaker 10>in the tree at the time that he called me.

1670
01:37:28.880 --> 01:37:31.760
<v Speaker 6>And that's I mean, kyudy attacks are rare, it does happen,

1671
01:37:31.880 --> 01:37:35.439
<v Speaker 6>especially when they travel. Impacts like that, it looks to

1672
01:37:35.479 --> 01:37:38.199
<v Speaker 6>me like if it had been coyotes. And then my

1673
01:37:38.319 --> 01:37:41.159
<v Speaker 6>first question really was did he mean kayoties like the

1674
01:37:41.159 --> 01:37:44.960
<v Speaker 6>animals or sometimes human traffickers or smugglers are referred to

1675
01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:47.239
<v Speaker 6>as coyotes. I thought maybe people were after him, But

1676
01:37:47.319 --> 01:37:49.079
<v Speaker 6>you think based on what he said, that it was

1677
01:37:49.199 --> 01:37:50.720
<v Speaker 6>animal coyoties. Correct.

1678
01:37:50.960 --> 01:37:53.920
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, from what he told me or what it sounded

1679
01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:57.159
<v Speaker 11>like to me, I think that he meant the animals.

1680
01:37:57.239 --> 01:38:01.399
<v Speaker 11>But I don't necessarily pull believe that it was animals

1681
01:38:01.399 --> 01:38:04.760
<v Speaker 11>because I really think that there would have been some

1682
01:38:04.840 --> 01:38:06.840
<v Speaker 11>kind of evidence found if there was any kind of

1683
01:38:06.880 --> 01:38:09.600
<v Speaker 11>animal attack, because I mean there's mount lions and bears

1684
01:38:09.640 --> 01:38:12.319
<v Speaker 11>here and stuff also, but there would have been some

1685
01:38:12.439 --> 01:38:15.920
<v Speaker 11>kind of evidence left behind if any kind of animal

1686
01:38:15.920 --> 01:38:17.520
<v Speaker 11>attack had happened.

1687
01:38:17.239 --> 01:38:18.079
<v Speaker 10>And there was nothing.

1688
01:38:18.479 --> 01:38:21.000
<v Speaker 6>I totally agree if there was any kind of animal predation,

1689
01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:24.760
<v Speaker 6>there would be some physical or forensic evidence left behind there.

1690
01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:27.800
<v Speaker 6>I mean, even if they eat the entire person. Sorry

1691
01:38:27.880 --> 01:38:30.039
<v Speaker 6>to say that, but you know, they don't eat your clothing.

1692
01:38:30.119 --> 01:38:32.319
<v Speaker 6>They don't eat your belt buckle, they don't eat your shoes,

1693
01:38:32.720 --> 01:38:34.920
<v Speaker 6>things like that. Plus there would have been a disturbance

1694
01:38:34.920 --> 01:38:38.439
<v Speaker 6>in the groundcover and other, like I said, forensic evidence

1695
01:38:38.439 --> 01:38:39.920
<v Speaker 6>and things. There would have been some sign of a

1696
01:38:39.920 --> 01:38:43.079
<v Speaker 6>struggle and stuff beyond that. So that's that in and

1697
01:38:43.119 --> 01:38:46.279
<v Speaker 6>of itself is kind of strange. Now, Also the part

1698
01:38:46.319 --> 01:38:48.880
<v Speaker 6>about him being confused about which mountain he was on,

1699
01:38:48.880 --> 01:38:50.840
<v Speaker 6>it sounds like there's one behind the high school and

1700
01:38:50.880 --> 01:38:53.319
<v Speaker 6>then a different one behind the elementary school.

1701
01:38:53.520 --> 01:38:56.720
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, like into Marqua, it's like kind of like in

1702
01:38:56.800 --> 01:38:59.479
<v Speaker 11>a ditch and it's surrounded by mountains.

1703
01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:01.960
<v Speaker 10>And we spent a lot of time on the mountains.

1704
01:39:01.960 --> 01:39:04.119
<v Speaker 11>And that's kind of like the names that we had

1705
01:39:04.199 --> 01:39:06.600
<v Speaker 11>for them, Like we would call the mountain that was

1706
01:39:06.640 --> 01:39:08.560
<v Speaker 11>behind the high school the high School Mountain, and that

1707
01:39:08.920 --> 01:39:11.439
<v Speaker 11>the one behind the elementary the Elementary Mountain. So that's

1708
01:39:11.439 --> 01:39:13.880
<v Speaker 11>what he'd been when he said that, And I understood that,

1709
01:39:14.119 --> 01:39:17.720
<v Speaker 11>but Yeah, that bothers me a lot. Why you know,

1710
01:39:17.840 --> 01:39:20.600
<v Speaker 11>he he changed it as if he wasn't sure where

1711
01:39:20.680 --> 01:39:25.039
<v Speaker 11>he was. And the other thing that bothers me too is,

1712
01:39:25.039 --> 01:39:27.159
<v Speaker 11>like I said, we've spent a lot of time back there,

1713
01:39:27.560 --> 01:39:30.800
<v Speaker 11>you know, me, Jesse, our friends, our family, And if

1714
01:39:30.840 --> 01:39:34.079
<v Speaker 11>he would have been able to tell me something like,

1715
01:39:34.279 --> 01:39:38.159
<v Speaker 11>you know, a certain area, most likely I would have

1716
01:39:38.239 --> 01:39:41.159
<v Speaker 11>known exactly where he's meant. So for the phone to

1717
01:39:41.159 --> 01:39:43.640
<v Speaker 11>cut out at that exact time that bothers me a

1718
01:39:43.640 --> 01:39:45.760
<v Speaker 11>lot because I feel like if I would have got

1719
01:39:45.760 --> 01:39:48.680
<v Speaker 11>that piece of information, I probably would have known exactly

1720
01:39:48.720 --> 01:39:51.439
<v Speaker 11>where he was talking about because we knew those mountains

1721
01:39:51.479 --> 01:39:55.840
<v Speaker 11>so well. So that far, you know, that's bothersome too,

1722
01:39:55.960 --> 01:39:56.720
<v Speaker 11>because it.

1723
01:39:56.560 --> 01:40:00.560
<v Speaker 6>Was unfortunate timing there for that to happen. So he

1724
01:40:00.720 --> 01:40:02.520
<v Speaker 6>was familiar with the area, and you said, it's somewhere

1725
01:40:02.560 --> 01:40:05.079
<v Speaker 6>where you all spent a lot of time together, so

1726
01:40:05.279 --> 01:40:07.520
<v Speaker 6>he knew the area. Well. Now, have you ever encountered

1727
01:40:07.600 --> 01:40:10.319
<v Speaker 6>kaody or anything? And then you mentioned bears, mountain lions.

1728
01:40:10.319 --> 01:40:13.119
<v Speaker 6>Have you ever seen any big animals in there before?

1729
01:40:13.680 --> 01:40:17.000
<v Speaker 11>I've seen bears, I've seen a mountain lion once, I've

1730
01:40:17.039 --> 01:40:21.159
<v Speaker 11>seen a coyote one time, and it was by itself

1731
01:40:21.279 --> 01:40:23.319
<v Speaker 11>and it was like pretty big, and I was kind

1732
01:40:23.319 --> 01:40:26.800
<v Speaker 11>of shocked to see it. But otherwise I have never

1733
01:40:26.840 --> 01:40:30.840
<v Speaker 11>seen any coyotes or anything. So yeah, there's definitely a

1734
01:40:30.880 --> 01:40:33.800
<v Speaker 11>lot of different animals up there, but yeah, I've.

1735
01:40:33.399 --> 01:40:35.720
<v Speaker 10>Never seen coyotes except for that one time.

1736
01:40:36.520 --> 01:40:38.600
<v Speaker 6>And I'm thinking since he was up a tree and

1737
01:40:38.680 --> 01:40:41.680
<v Speaker 6>obviously afraid of what was about to happen, that might

1738
01:40:41.720 --> 01:40:45.199
<v Speaker 6>have been why he was confused about the location exactly.

1739
01:40:46.479 --> 01:40:46.680
<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

1740
01:40:46.880 --> 01:40:50.520
<v Speaker 6>Possibly Again here, I'm just just throwing things out there,

1741
01:40:51.039 --> 01:40:53.840
<v Speaker 6>but yeah, the whole thing sounds kind of strange. I mean,

1742
01:40:53.880 --> 01:40:56.399
<v Speaker 6>you don't hear that many koty attacks. I read some

1743
01:40:56.520 --> 01:41:00.560
<v Speaker 6>statistics and you're more likely to be killed by an

1744
01:41:00.680 --> 01:41:03.760
<v Speaker 6>eric golf ball or a champagne for then you are

1745
01:41:03.840 --> 01:41:04.840
<v Speaker 6>a coyote.

1746
01:41:04.439 --> 01:41:09.000
<v Speaker 11>Attack, So right, I think it's strange. Also, I really do.

1747
01:41:09.359 --> 01:41:11.199
<v Speaker 10>I spend every day trying to.

1748
01:41:11.119 --> 01:41:13.600
<v Speaker 11>Figure that phone call out every single thing that he

1749
01:41:13.840 --> 01:41:16.039
<v Speaker 11>said to me, and that call is weird, like him

1750
01:41:16.039 --> 01:41:18.560
<v Speaker 11>even mentioning to bring guns at that time, I didn't

1751
01:41:18.560 --> 01:41:22.640
<v Speaker 11>even own guns, so it's just everything about it was

1752
01:41:22.680 --> 01:41:25.159
<v Speaker 11>really weird. And I also wondered, like if he was

1753
01:41:25.800 --> 01:41:28.600
<v Speaker 11>in the woods like Why did he wait till that

1754
01:41:28.760 --> 01:41:31.319
<v Speaker 11>exact point to call me? Like, why didn't he try

1755
01:41:31.359 --> 01:41:33.680
<v Speaker 11>and call earlier? Maybe he didn't have the opportunity, but

1756
01:41:33.800 --> 01:41:36.319
<v Speaker 11>it just so happened that he called right when the phone.

1757
01:41:36.119 --> 01:41:37.279
<v Speaker 10>Was about to die.

1758
01:41:37.800 --> 01:41:40.399
<v Speaker 11>And it's just it's all very strange and it doesn't

1759
01:41:40.439 --> 01:41:41.000
<v Speaker 11>make sense.

1760
01:41:41.279 --> 01:41:44.239
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Now, just out of curiosity, do you know what

1761
01:41:44.319 --> 01:41:45.880
<v Speaker 6>he was doing in that area? Was he just out

1762
01:41:45.880 --> 01:41:48.199
<v Speaker 6>there hiking or just enjoying nature.

1763
01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:51.800
<v Speaker 11>Or well on like on the Marqua side of that mountain,

1764
01:41:53.039 --> 01:41:55.119
<v Speaker 11>On the other side of the mountain, you can say,

1765
01:41:55.279 --> 01:41:58.279
<v Speaker 11>is Lewistown Valley, and his grandmother lived out there and

1766
01:41:58.319 --> 01:42:01.479
<v Speaker 11>that's where he was staying. But also on the other

1767
01:42:01.520 --> 01:42:04.800
<v Speaker 11>side of that mountain, we both worked at Livey's Theairy.

1768
01:42:05.640 --> 01:42:08.760
<v Speaker 11>So I wondered if he was because there was a

1769
01:42:08.760 --> 01:42:11.159
<v Speaker 11>way that he used to him and his brother's used

1770
01:42:11.159 --> 01:42:13.000
<v Speaker 11>to like there was a short cut they had over

1771
01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:14.439
<v Speaker 11>the mountain and they would be able to come.

1772
01:42:14.399 --> 01:42:16.279
<v Speaker 10>Right out into their gram's backyard.

1773
01:42:16.680 --> 01:42:18.720
<v Speaker 11>So I was thinking, was he trying to get there

1774
01:42:18.840 --> 01:42:21.199
<v Speaker 11>or was he trying to get to take a short

1775
01:42:21.199 --> 01:42:23.399
<v Speaker 11>cut to work? But I still find it strange that

1776
01:42:23.439 --> 01:42:25.920
<v Speaker 11>he would try to walk that distance instead of just

1777
01:42:26.119 --> 01:42:26.680
<v Speaker 11>calling for a.

1778
01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:29.039
<v Speaker 6>Ride, going for a ride. Yeah, the whole thing. And

1779
01:42:29.119 --> 01:42:31.439
<v Speaker 6>it almost and this is just to me an outsider,

1780
01:42:31.800 --> 01:42:34.119
<v Speaker 6>almost sounds like he may have been talking in code

1781
01:42:34.239 --> 01:42:36.880
<v Speaker 6>or trying to say something to you without coming right

1782
01:42:36.880 --> 01:42:39.760
<v Speaker 6>out and saying it. But I don't know. It's just

1783
01:42:39.840 --> 01:42:42.199
<v Speaker 6>I get I said the whole thing. There's just lots

1784
01:42:42.199 --> 01:42:44.239
<v Speaker 6>of bizarre pieces about it. And then you said the

1785
01:42:44.279 --> 01:42:47.239
<v Speaker 6>book bag was later found in a tree, but you

1786
01:42:47.479 --> 01:42:49.439
<v Speaker 6>since you haven't been able to see it, you're not

1787
01:42:49.600 --> 01:42:51.760
<v Speaker 6>even sure if it was his book bag or not.

1788
01:42:52.159 --> 01:42:53.720
<v Speaker 10>And yeah, I'm not.

1789
01:42:54.039 --> 01:42:58.720
<v Speaker 6>So was that taken into evidence by the police or.

1790
01:42:57.840 --> 01:42:58.319
<v Speaker 10>It was not?

1791
01:42:59.079 --> 01:43:03.840
<v Speaker 11>His family He had identified it by a pin they

1792
01:43:03.880 --> 01:43:07.680
<v Speaker 11>said that was on the bag. But that's another reason

1793
01:43:07.680 --> 01:43:09.760
<v Speaker 11>that I have trouble believe in that, because my son

1794
01:43:09.840 --> 01:43:13.239
<v Speaker 11>has possession of that pin right now. So that's the

1795
01:43:13.279 --> 01:43:16.319
<v Speaker 11>weird thing. And the police don't have it in evidence.

1796
01:43:16.359 --> 01:43:18.840
<v Speaker 11>They never took it into evidence. They released it to

1797
01:43:18.920 --> 01:43:21.760
<v Speaker 11>his mom, which I've asked her to show me, you know,

1798
01:43:21.840 --> 01:43:24.439
<v Speaker 11>even a photo of the bag, and she just refuses

1799
01:43:24.479 --> 01:43:27.000
<v Speaker 11>to do that because I feel like if I had

1800
01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:29.840
<v Speaker 11>a better if I could see that bag, I wouldn't

1801
01:43:29.840 --> 01:43:33.119
<v Speaker 11>know if it was his or not, And by that

1802
01:43:33.199 --> 01:43:35.000
<v Speaker 11>I'd be able to tell if he was really ever

1803
01:43:35.079 --> 01:43:37.399
<v Speaker 11>there or not. But I mean, I could be wrong,

1804
01:43:37.439 --> 01:43:39.439
<v Speaker 11>but I just do not believe that was his.

1805
01:43:40.640 --> 01:43:44.439
<v Speaker 6>Again, another strange circumstance. And as I mentioned, there seven

1806
01:43:44.520 --> 01:43:48.479
<v Speaker 6>years ago yesterday that it happened. Now, there are several

1807
01:43:48.479 --> 01:43:51.239
<v Speaker 6>different theories that we've spoken up. Some we can talk about,

1808
01:43:51.279 --> 01:43:54.680
<v Speaker 6>some we can't, just because now is it but the

1809
01:43:54.840 --> 01:43:57.000
<v Speaker 6>police did they considered a cold case or is it

1810
01:43:57.119 --> 01:43:59.239
<v Speaker 6>still an open investigation and ongoing?

1811
01:44:00.520 --> 01:44:02.600
<v Speaker 11>The last that I talked to them, they said it's

1812
01:44:02.640 --> 01:44:06.600
<v Speaker 11>considered open still, but that nothing new has really come

1813
01:44:06.840 --> 01:44:08.279
<v Speaker 11>come up in a while.

1814
01:44:08.399 --> 01:44:12.399
<v Speaker 6>So now is there a tip line or a Facebook

1815
01:44:12.479 --> 01:44:15.159
<v Speaker 6>page or a website where anybody can go if they

1816
01:44:15.199 --> 01:44:17.479
<v Speaker 6>did have some information to share about the case.

1817
01:44:18.279 --> 01:44:21.760
<v Speaker 11>Usually there's They usually like what I put on the

1818
01:44:21.800 --> 01:44:24.840
<v Speaker 11>missing fly or I just made I put the police's

1819
01:44:24.920 --> 01:44:27.840
<v Speaker 11>phone number, and then like I have a contact number.

1820
01:44:27.920 --> 01:44:31.520
<v Speaker 11>I know his family has their own number to contact

1821
01:44:31.560 --> 01:44:36.479
<v Speaker 11>them also, and I know his mother has a missing person.

1822
01:44:36.159 --> 01:44:37.720
<v Speaker 10>Page for him on Facebook.

1823
01:44:39.039 --> 01:44:41.439
<v Speaker 6>Okay, we'll put links to all that in the video

1824
01:44:41.520 --> 01:44:44.720
<v Speaker 6>you did for me a copy of the fire there, Okay,

1825
01:44:44.960 --> 01:44:48.359
<v Speaker 6>I'll put that information in there. Well, Rachel, we appreciate

1826
01:44:48.600 --> 01:44:50.960
<v Speaker 6>you taking the time to talk with us, and we'll

1827
01:44:50.960 --> 01:44:53.720
<v Speaker 6>certainly do all we can to keep his name and

1828
01:44:53.760 --> 01:44:56.319
<v Speaker 6>his memory out there in case somebody does. You know,

1829
01:44:56.399 --> 01:45:00.600
<v Speaker 6>somebody somewhere knows something. Somebody knows exactly. I believe that,

1830
01:45:01.279 --> 01:45:04.279
<v Speaker 6>and it can be that one little piece of information,

1831
01:45:04.359 --> 01:45:07.159
<v Speaker 6>no matter how inconsequential it might seem to someone, that

1832
01:45:07.279 --> 01:45:10.600
<v Speaker 6>might be what's needed to make it to crack the

1833
01:45:10.600 --> 01:45:13.720
<v Speaker 6>case open. But again, thank you, and our hearts go

1834
01:45:13.800 --> 01:45:17.039
<v Speaker 6>out to you and your children, and hopefully we get

1835
01:45:17.039 --> 01:45:19.439
<v Speaker 6>some tips in or at least make people aware of it.

1836
01:45:20.399 --> 01:45:21.920
<v Speaker 10>Yes, and thank you so much.

1837
01:45:22.039 --> 01:45:24.960
<v Speaker 6>Oh absolutely, that's what we're here for. You have any

1838
01:45:25.159 --> 01:45:27.439
<v Speaker 6>parting words or requests or anything you'd like to share

1839
01:45:27.479 --> 01:45:28.119
<v Speaker 6>with the audience.

1840
01:45:28.640 --> 01:45:30.720
<v Speaker 11>I would just like to say thank you for listening

1841
01:45:30.760 --> 01:45:35.239
<v Speaker 11>to Jesse's story, and thank you for you know, you know,

1842
01:45:35.399 --> 01:45:38.319
<v Speaker 11>listening and helping in any way that you can.

1843
01:45:38.239 --> 01:45:41.800
<v Speaker 10>Spread spread his name and story around. And if anyone

1844
01:45:41.840 --> 01:45:44.159
<v Speaker 10>has any information, if you could, you.

1845
01:45:44.079 --> 01:45:47.039
<v Speaker 11>Know, report it to its markl Please, even if it's anonymous.

1846
01:45:47.239 --> 01:45:49.199
<v Speaker 10>Anything, anything is helpful.

1847
01:45:49.760 --> 01:45:53.560
<v Speaker 11>Even the littlest thing that you think wouldn't connect could

1848
01:45:53.680 --> 01:45:56.399
<v Speaker 11>mean a lot in this case, and thank you very

1849
01:45:56.560 --> 01:45:57.039
<v Speaker 11>very much.

1850
01:45:57.119 --> 01:46:00.560
<v Speaker 6>Oh you're quite welcome our pleasure to help you and

1851
01:46:00.560 --> 01:46:03.479
<v Speaker 6>your children out there. And uh, if the audience, if

1852
01:46:03.479 --> 01:46:06.319
<v Speaker 6>the listeners have any further questions, all forward those to

1853
01:46:06.399 --> 01:46:10.119
<v Speaker 6>you and we'll do an update at some point. All right,

1854
01:46:10.199 --> 01:46:12.600
<v Speaker 6>well we will let you go. Thanks again for your time,

1855
01:46:12.920 --> 01:46:15.119
<v Speaker 6>and I hope for the best, and you know, hug

1856
01:46:15.159 --> 01:46:17.479
<v Speaker 6>your kids for me. That's just breaks my hearty till

1857
01:46:17.560 --> 01:46:20.199
<v Speaker 6>those children involved. We've got a case out here in

1858
01:46:20.199 --> 01:46:23.800
<v Speaker 6>New Mexico that we covered involves missing murdered indigenous women,

1859
01:46:23.840 --> 01:46:27.000
<v Speaker 6>which is almost an epidemic out here, and it talked

1860
01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:30.359
<v Speaker 6>about the little boy would text his mom every day

1861
01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:32.600
<v Speaker 6>say Mommy, when are you coming home? And she's been

1862
01:46:32.600 --> 01:46:34.840
<v Speaker 6>missing for a couple of years, and that just that

1863
01:46:34.960 --> 01:46:36.680
<v Speaker 6>just tears your heart out to think about that. I mean,

1864
01:46:36.720 --> 01:46:38.359
<v Speaker 6>I can't imagine it is.

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<v Speaker 11>It's very sad because they're so young and they and

1866
01:46:40.800 --> 01:46:43.960
<v Speaker 11>they don't understand and uh, they just want, you know,

1867
01:46:44.159 --> 01:46:48.000
<v Speaker 11>their parents, and it is very sad. I give my

1868
01:46:48.119 --> 01:46:50.960
<v Speaker 11>kids a lot of credit for their strength. I really

1869
01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:54.479
<v Speaker 11>do thank you again, Steve. I really appreciate just like

1870
01:46:54.560 --> 01:46:57.199
<v Speaker 11>I can't be saying words like what this means to me,

1871
01:46:57.399 --> 01:46:58.439
<v Speaker 11>my kids, my family.

1872
01:46:58.600 --> 01:47:00.960
<v Speaker 6>I understand, and just not knowing would have to be

1873
01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:04.079
<v Speaker 6>the worst. I mean closure either way, to find out,

1874
01:47:04.479 --> 01:47:06.119
<v Speaker 6>you know where he is and what happened, But to

1875
01:47:06.199 --> 01:47:08.760
<v Speaker 6>not know one way or the other, that that's torture.

1876
01:47:09.720 --> 01:47:14.960
<v Speaker 11>It is it's having to grieve like continuously and it's hard.

1877
01:47:15.119 --> 01:47:16.680
<v Speaker 10>But I have hope.

1878
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<v Speaker 6>Okay, well, we'll bless your heart. God bless all of you. There.

1879
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<v Speaker 10>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, friends, there you have it. What do you think

1881
01:47:25.319 --> 01:47:29.399
<v Speaker 6>of this strange case? Look forward to your comments, but

1882
01:47:29.520 --> 01:47:32.560
<v Speaker 6>please keep it friendly and respectful, as we do expect

1883
01:47:32.720 --> 01:47:35.319
<v Speaker 6>the family to watch this video and read the comments

1884
01:47:36.640 --> 01:47:39.399
<v Speaker 6>till we meet again. Be good to yourselves and each other.

1885
01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:43.600
<v Speaker 6>Stay safe out there. As for me, I'll see a

1886
01:47:43.640 --> 01:47:47.439
<v Speaker 6>little farther on down the trail. I'm Steve Stockton and

1887
01:47:47.479 --> 01:47:50.319
<v Speaker 6>I'll talk to you next time. Tell your pets I said.

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<v Speaker 9>Hi.

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<v Speaker 12>No, Hello, friends, and welcome to another episode.

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<v Speaker 6>This time we invite you to join us as we

1891
01:48:19.680 --> 01:48:24.039
<v Speaker 6>discuss some of the absolute strangest missing person cases that

1892
01:48:24.159 --> 01:48:27.479
<v Speaker 6>we've ever encountered. You have theories on any of these,

1893
01:48:28.039 --> 01:48:35.159
<v Speaker 6>if so, please share, We'd love to hear them. Jared negrite.

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<v Speaker 6>Thirteen year old Jared Negrete was a boy scout who

1895
01:48:38.560 --> 01:48:41.960
<v Speaker 6>was on his first overnight backpacking trip. He was last

1896
01:48:41.960 --> 01:48:45.079
<v Speaker 6>seen on Friday, nineteenth of July nineteen ninety one at

1897
01:48:45.079 --> 01:48:47.960
<v Speaker 6>about six pm, when he fell behind his fellow scouts

1898
01:48:47.960 --> 01:48:50.119
<v Speaker 6>on a hike to the summit of the eleven five

1899
01:48:50.279 --> 01:48:54.319
<v Speaker 6>hundred foot mount San Gorgonio in the San Bernardino National Forest,

1900
01:48:54.520 --> 01:49:00.439
<v Speaker 6>southern California. Another group of hikers spotted Jared straggler behind

1901
01:49:00.439 --> 01:49:02.800
<v Speaker 6>and notified the scout troop leader at the mountain summit,

1902
01:49:02.880 --> 01:49:05.119
<v Speaker 6>but the leader had experienced hiker said he would pick

1903
01:49:05.159 --> 01:49:08.600
<v Speaker 6>up Jared on the way down. When the leader finally

1904
01:49:08.600 --> 01:49:11.600
<v Speaker 6>decided to descend the mountain, Chared was nowhere to be seen.

1905
01:49:12.920 --> 01:49:15.600
<v Speaker 6>As soon as the troop leader realized that Jared had disappeared,

1906
01:49:15.640 --> 01:49:17.920
<v Speaker 6>he accompanied his five other scouts back to the base

1907
01:49:17.920 --> 01:49:20.119
<v Speaker 6>camp and then hiked about five miles in the dark

1908
01:49:20.199 --> 01:49:24.920
<v Speaker 6>to get help. Sam Bernardino County Sheriff's deputies, along with

1909
01:49:24.960 --> 01:49:27.520
<v Speaker 6>search and rescue teams from as Farest Way, As, Sierra Madre,

1910
01:49:27.640 --> 01:49:30.439
<v Speaker 6>and San Dimas, began searching one hundred and thirty square

1911
01:49:30.479 --> 01:49:33.840
<v Speaker 6>mile area of the San Gorganio wilderness a rocky tree

1912
01:49:33.880 --> 01:49:39.439
<v Speaker 6>lined terrain. Within three days, their search was focused on

1913
01:49:39.479 --> 01:49:42.039
<v Speaker 6>a six square mile area where a footprint to believe

1914
01:49:42.119 --> 01:49:44.720
<v Speaker 6>to match one of Jared's high top tennis shoes was found.

1915
01:49:46.119 --> 01:49:49.199
<v Speaker 6>Searchers also discovered beef, jerky and candy wrappers believed to

1916
01:49:49.199 --> 01:49:51.880
<v Speaker 6>have been dropped by the scout, and most importantly, his

1917
01:49:51.960 --> 01:49:57.239
<v Speaker 6>camera was located. On the film role were twelve pictures.

1918
01:49:58.199 --> 01:50:00.960
<v Speaker 6>Most of the photos were landscape scenes, apparently taken before

1919
01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:04.479
<v Speaker 6>Jared went missing, but the final picture on the role

1920
01:50:04.520 --> 01:50:06.960
<v Speaker 6>of film was a photograph of the scout's eyes and nose,

1921
01:50:07.239 --> 01:50:09.520
<v Speaker 6>taken with the aid of the camera's flash, possibly at

1922
01:50:09.640 --> 01:50:14.680
<v Speaker 6>night after he disappeared. Family members said it appeared Jared

1923
01:50:14.680 --> 01:50:17.000
<v Speaker 6>had pointed the camera at his face and snapped the picture.

1924
01:50:17.920 --> 01:50:20.079
<v Speaker 6>It seemed possible that the boy had lost the camera

1925
01:50:20.079 --> 01:50:25.119
<v Speaker 6>while sliding down a portion of the mountain side. At

1926
01:50:25.199 --> 01:50:27.439
<v Speaker 6>least seventy officers, some of whom were lifted by an

1927
01:50:27.439 --> 01:50:30.199
<v Speaker 6>helicopter into the forest, and horseback riders as well as

1928
01:50:30.199 --> 01:50:34.479
<v Speaker 6>helicopters of the infrared were deployed. Over the next two weeks.

1929
01:50:34.479 --> 01:50:37.039
<v Speaker 6>As many as three thousand people had logged forty five

1930
01:50:37.079 --> 01:50:40.439
<v Speaker 6>thousand hours scouring fifty square miles of the San Bernardino

1931
01:50:40.560 --> 01:50:46.239
<v Speaker 6>National Forest Fromangelus Oaks to Whitewater Canyon. Almost thirty years later,

1932
01:50:46.880 --> 01:50:49.800
<v Speaker 6>no other clues to Jared's disappearance of surface, and he

1933
01:50:49.880 --> 01:51:00.760
<v Speaker 6>remains missing. Casey Hathaway and the Bear. Three year old

1934
01:51:00.920 --> 01:51:05.720
<v Speaker 6>Casey Hathaway disappeared from his great grandmother's backyard on January

1935
01:51:05.760 --> 01:51:09.640
<v Speaker 6>twenty fifth, twenty nineteen. Casey was playing with two other

1936
01:51:09.720 --> 01:51:12.920
<v Speaker 6>relatives in his great grandmother's backyard the day he went missing.

1937
01:51:13.520 --> 01:51:15.800
<v Speaker 6>When he didn't come inside when the others did, his

1938
01:51:15.840 --> 01:51:19.880
<v Speaker 6>family started searching for him. After forty five minutes past,

1939
01:51:20.079 --> 01:51:23.479
<v Speaker 6>his grandmother called nine one one. He was walking in

1940
01:51:23.520 --> 01:51:25.640
<v Speaker 6>the woods back there and we can't find him, his

1941
01:51:25.680 --> 01:51:29.000
<v Speaker 6>great grandmother told the nine one one dispatcher. The other

1942
01:51:29.039 --> 01:51:31.479
<v Speaker 6>ones came through the house but left him there, and

1943
01:51:31.520 --> 01:51:34.960
<v Speaker 6>he walked off somewhere and we can't find him. Search

1944
01:51:35.000 --> 01:51:37.840
<v Speaker 6>and rescue teams from across the state immediately came together

1945
01:51:37.920 --> 01:51:40.760
<v Speaker 6>to brave the treacher's terrain and low temperatures, hoping to

1946
01:51:40.800 --> 01:51:45.800
<v Speaker 6>find a Casey. Three days later, rescuers were still combing

1947
01:51:45.800 --> 01:51:48.359
<v Speaker 6>the woods when they heard the missing through old boy

1948
01:51:48.640 --> 01:51:53.119
<v Speaker 6>call out for his mother. In the emergency room, Casey

1949
01:51:53.159 --> 01:51:56.680
<v Speaker 6>started talking about what happened in the woods. He said

1950
01:51:56.680 --> 01:51:59.479
<v Speaker 6>he had a friend that was a bear. The bear

1951
01:51:59.520 --> 01:52:01.479
<v Speaker 6>took care of him and campin warm while he was

1952
01:52:01.520 --> 01:52:04.920
<v Speaker 6>lost in the woods. Casey goes on to say that

1953
01:52:04.920 --> 01:52:09.640
<v Speaker 6>the bear also fed in berries. Now, the local sheriff

1954
01:52:09.680 --> 01:52:12.399
<v Speaker 6>stated that there are bears in the woods of Craven County,

1955
01:52:12.399 --> 01:52:15.680
<v Speaker 6>North Carolina, but there's no evidence to prove one was

1956
01:52:15.720 --> 01:52:19.920
<v Speaker 6>with Casey. He goes on to say, all that matters

1957
01:52:20.039 --> 01:52:22.279
<v Speaker 6>is that something was there to come for Casey during

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01:52:22.319 --> 01:52:29.479
<v Speaker 6>the three days he was missing. Carol van Houla heerie

1959
01:52:29.479 --> 01:52:32.399
<v Speaker 6>o Ca van Holla, went missing on June twenty eighth,

1960
01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:36.680
<v Speaker 6>nineteen fifty nine, in the Dickinson County Picnic Grounds in Michigan.

1961
01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:40.279
<v Speaker 6>Van Hula's had four daughters and took them to the

1962
01:52:40.279 --> 01:52:43.239
<v Speaker 6>Dickson County Picnic Grounds at Norway Lake for an afternoon

1963
01:52:43.279 --> 01:52:47.479
<v Speaker 6>of outdoor fun. Carol's mother was reading the group for

1964
01:52:47.520 --> 01:52:52.159
<v Speaker 6>dinner when she noticed Carrol was missing. After a quick search,

1965
01:52:52.359 --> 01:52:56.920
<v Speaker 6>law enforcement was notified. A large scale search was conducted

1966
01:52:57.000 --> 01:53:01.920
<v Speaker 6>using five hundred searchers, a helicopter in canines. Although the

1967
01:53:01.960 --> 01:53:04.800
<v Speaker 6>canines picked up on her scent, they would then lose it.

1968
01:53:05.880 --> 01:53:08.800
<v Speaker 6>About thirteen hours into the search, the search and rescue

1969
01:53:08.840 --> 01:53:12.279
<v Speaker 6>team could hear a faint cry from a child in

1970
01:53:12.359 --> 01:53:16.319
<v Speaker 6>an area having laden with swamp and underbrush. Authorities found Carol.

1971
01:53:17.359 --> 01:53:20.119
<v Speaker 6>The previous September, a four year old boy had vanished

1972
01:53:20.199 --> 01:53:23.479
<v Speaker 6>under similar circumstances, but he was found dead of exposure

1973
01:53:23.640 --> 01:53:27.279
<v Speaker 6>four days after he went missing. Carol was taken to

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01:53:27.399 --> 01:53:34.800
<v Speaker 6>hospital with scratches and signs of exposure. David Gonzalez David

1975
01:53:34.800 --> 01:53:39.079
<v Speaker 6>Gonzalez disappeared while camping with his family in Fawnskin, California,

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01:53:39.600 --> 01:53:44.399
<v Speaker 6>on July thirty first, two thousand and four. David asked

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01:53:44.399 --> 01:53:47.119
<v Speaker 6>his mother if he could have the truck keys. There

1978
01:53:47.199 --> 01:53:49.119
<v Speaker 6>was a box of cookies in the truck and he

1979
01:53:49.199 --> 01:53:53.680
<v Speaker 6>wanted a treat. The vehicle was only fifty yards forty

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01:53:53.720 --> 01:53:57.199
<v Speaker 6>six meters away, and his mother watched him as he

1981
01:53:57.239 --> 01:53:59.399
<v Speaker 6>walked to the parking lot near the Big Bear Lake

1982
01:53:59.479 --> 01:54:05.439
<v Speaker 6>campsite in northern California San Bernardino National Forest. She turned

1983
01:54:05.439 --> 01:54:08.600
<v Speaker 6>her back for a second, and when she looked around again,

1984
01:54:09.000 --> 01:54:13.039
<v Speaker 6>David was gone. David's mother reported that she heard no

1985
01:54:13.159 --> 01:54:15.880
<v Speaker 6>sound at all while her back was turned, though she

1986
01:54:15.960 --> 01:54:18.520
<v Speaker 6>did see a baige truck speeding out of the campground

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01:54:18.640 --> 01:54:23.079
<v Speaker 6>around the time that her son went missing. Since there

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01:54:23.119 --> 01:54:26.640
<v Speaker 6>were no signs of abduction, authorities did not pursue that lead.

1989
01:54:28.079 --> 01:54:30.159
<v Speaker 6>The cookies that David went to get were still in

1990
01:54:30.199 --> 01:54:33.479
<v Speaker 6>his family's locked vehicle, so he never made it to

1991
01:54:33.560 --> 01:54:37.800
<v Speaker 6>the truck. Rescue teams in San Bernardino County scoured the

1992
01:54:37.800 --> 01:54:41.520
<v Speaker 6>woods for David. They found no signs of struggle or

1993
01:54:41.560 --> 01:54:44.960
<v Speaker 6>of the boy. The search went on for nine days,

1994
01:54:45.560 --> 01:54:50.359
<v Speaker 6>but rescuers never found him alive. In twenty fifteen, hikers

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01:54:50.359 --> 01:54:54.239
<v Speaker 6>stumbled upon David's remains about a mile from his family's campsite.

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01:54:55.159 --> 01:54:58.319
<v Speaker 6>Authorities chuck this up to a mountain lion attack, but

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01:54:58.399 --> 01:55:00.840
<v Speaker 6>how could a mountain lion have signed only dragged a

1998
01:55:00.920 --> 01:55:04.560
<v Speaker 6>nine year old boy a mile without leaving any blood

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01:55:04.640 --> 01:55:07.960
<v Speaker 6>or signs of struggle. Surely David would have screamed and

2000
01:55:08.039 --> 01:55:12.000
<v Speaker 6>cried out, but nobody at the campground, including his mother,

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01:55:12.680 --> 01:55:19.960
<v Speaker 6>reported hearing or seeing anything. Ambrose Smith gone for twenty

2002
01:55:19.960 --> 01:55:25.439
<v Speaker 6>four hours. Ambrose Smith normally played happily at home in

2003
01:55:25.560 --> 01:55:30.920
<v Speaker 6>Newego County, Michigan, but on October eighth, twenty thirteen, Ambrose

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01:55:30.960 --> 01:55:33.279
<v Speaker 6>was sitting in the lounge with her father when he

2005
01:55:33.319 --> 01:55:36.000
<v Speaker 6>briefly left the room, and upon his return, she was

2006
01:55:36.000 --> 01:55:40.079
<v Speaker 6>nowhere to be found. A massive search involving hundreds of

2007
01:55:40.119 --> 01:55:45.119
<v Speaker 6>volunteers was immediately activated, covering the entire surrounding area. It

2008
01:55:45.199 --> 01:55:48.239
<v Speaker 6>wasn't until the next day that Ambrose was found a

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01:55:48.279 --> 01:55:51.720
<v Speaker 6>few miles from her home. Strangely, she was discovered in

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01:55:51.800 --> 01:55:54.840
<v Speaker 6>a location that had been extensively searched the previous day.

2011
01:55:55.880 --> 01:55:58.359
<v Speaker 6>How the little girl had managed to traverse such a

2012
01:55:58.439 --> 01:56:01.319
<v Speaker 6>huge distance and evade the search teams who sprang into

2013
01:56:01.359 --> 01:56:05.319
<v Speaker 6>action so soon after her disappearance remains a complete mystery.

2014
01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:12.239
<v Speaker 6>Catherine van Alst, eight year old Katherine van Alst, disappeared

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01:56:12.279 --> 01:56:16.920
<v Speaker 6>from Devil's Den State Park, near Arkansas's Ozark National Forest

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01:56:17.560 --> 01:56:21.600
<v Speaker 6>when she and her family were camping. Catherine apparently was

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01:56:21.640 --> 01:56:24.359
<v Speaker 6>playing with her brothers when she wandered off and got lost.

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01:56:25.760 --> 01:56:29.520
<v Speaker 6>What makes Catherine's disappearance remarkable is she was found six

2019
01:56:29.640 --> 01:56:33.520
<v Speaker 6>days later. When found, she was wandering the woods and

2020
01:56:33.720 --> 01:56:38.760
<v Speaker 6>was eerily calm. University of Arkansas student Border Chadwick was

2021
01:56:38.800 --> 01:56:42.399
<v Speaker 6>part of the search party that found Catherine. He told

2022
01:56:42.439 --> 01:56:45.359
<v Speaker 6>the Pittsburgh Press that when he found her, she walked

2023
01:56:45.399 --> 01:56:47.880
<v Speaker 6>starically out of a cave and just said, here I am.

2024
01:56:49.720 --> 01:56:51.880
<v Speaker 6>Many other hikers have gotten lost in that part of

2025
01:56:51.920 --> 01:56:55.439
<v Speaker 6>the Ozarks and haven't been as lucky as Catherine. A

2026
01:56:55.479 --> 01:56:59.039
<v Speaker 6>grown woman was lost there for seventeen days and died

2027
01:56:59.199 --> 01:57:03.119
<v Speaker 6>just fifty yards cards from the road. How did Catherine

2028
01:57:03.159 --> 01:57:07.279
<v Speaker 6>survive in the woods for six days? Did someone take

2029
01:57:07.319 --> 01:57:10.479
<v Speaker 6>her only to return her six days later? Or is

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01:57:10.520 --> 01:57:13.680
<v Speaker 6>there an explanation of this story that we simply can't comprehend.

2031
01:57:15.159 --> 01:57:19.520
<v Speaker 6>Either way, someone or something might just be lurking in

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01:57:19.760 --> 01:57:26.760
<v Speaker 6>Devil's den. Larry Jeffrey. In nineteen sixty six, a young

2033
01:57:26.800 --> 01:57:29.399
<v Speaker 6>boy by the name of Larry Jeffrey disappeared near the

2034
01:57:29.399 --> 01:57:32.600
<v Speaker 6>peak of twelve thousand foot Mount Charleston in the Humboldt

2035
01:57:32.600 --> 01:57:36.439
<v Speaker 6>Toyabi National Forest, just a short drive from Las Vegas.

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01:57:38.000 --> 01:57:41.560
<v Speaker 6>The search began immediately after Jeffrey wandered away from his brothers,

2037
01:57:42.119 --> 01:57:44.880
<v Speaker 6>and within days the National Guard and a team of

2038
01:57:44.920 --> 01:57:49.560
<v Speaker 6>bloodhounds had joined the search. When Jeffrey disappeared, he was

2039
01:57:49.600 --> 01:57:52.399
<v Speaker 6>wearing light clothing, and authorities were doubtful that he could

2040
01:57:52.399 --> 01:57:56.560
<v Speaker 6>survive the cold temperatures of the desert. At night, searchers

2041
01:57:56.600 --> 01:57:59.399
<v Speaker 6>found and lost the trail a few times, and they

2042
01:57:59.439 --> 01:58:03.119
<v Speaker 6>discovered evidence that Jeffrey had been eating insects and forged

2043
01:58:03.159 --> 01:58:08.479
<v Speaker 6>berries along the way. Overall, around one thousand people searched

2044
01:58:08.479 --> 01:58:13.600
<v Speaker 6>for sixteen days but never found him. One searcher said

2045
01:58:13.600 --> 01:58:19.680
<v Speaker 6>it was though Jeffrey had just walked into oblivion. Douglas Leg.

2046
01:58:21.279 --> 01:58:25.439
<v Speaker 6>On July tenth, nineteen seventy one, eight year old Douglas

2047
01:58:25.600 --> 01:58:29.119
<v Speaker 6>Leg was on a hike in the Adirondack Forest Santanoni

2048
01:58:29.239 --> 01:58:32.560
<v Speaker 6>Preserved when his uncle spotted poison ivy and told Douglas

2049
01:58:32.600 --> 01:58:36.800
<v Speaker 6>to put on long pants to protect himself. Douglas quickly

2050
01:58:36.840 --> 01:58:39.359
<v Speaker 6>headed back towards the family's cabin, which was a straight

2051
01:58:39.399 --> 01:58:44.439
<v Speaker 6>and short distance away, but he never returned. Unlike a

2052
01:58:44.479 --> 01:58:46.000
<v Speaker 6>lot of the kids who have gone missing in the

2053
01:58:46.079 --> 01:58:50.600
<v Speaker 6>National Parks, Douglas was very familiar with these woods. His

2054
01:58:50.680 --> 01:58:53.760
<v Speaker 6>family owned the cabin where they were staying, and described

2055
01:58:53.800 --> 01:58:57.039
<v Speaker 6>Douglas as a mini woodsman because they all hiked there

2056
01:58:57.079 --> 01:59:01.920
<v Speaker 6>together so often. Blas disappearance sparked one of the Southern

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01:59:01.960 --> 01:59:05.800
<v Speaker 6>Adirondacks's largest search and rescue missions, with more than six

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01:59:05.920 --> 01:59:11.079
<v Speaker 6>hundred people searching the woods. But like David Gonzalez, Douglas

2059
01:59:11.199 --> 01:59:17.640
<v Speaker 6>left no trail, unlike in the Gonzales case, though rescuers

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<v Speaker 6>used dogs in their search. Some accounts describe dogs following

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<v Speaker 6>douglas scent over a thirty mile trail through difficult terrain.

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<v Speaker 6>How could a young child, even one experiencing the woods,

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<v Speaker 6>have traveled alone for such a distance. The family became

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<v Speaker 6>so desperate to find Douglas that they began suspecting each

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<v Speaker 6>other and even close friends, of abducting Douglas, but investigators

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<v Speaker 6>were certain that Douglas had simply gotten lost. It's been

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<v Speaker 6>nearly fifty years and Douglas has never been found. Alfred

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<v Speaker 6>bill Harts, five year old Alfred bill Hearts is the

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<v Speaker 6>first drowning in Colorado's Rocky Mountain National Park, though whether

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<v Speaker 6>Alfred actually drowned as controversial. On July second, nineteen thirty eight,

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<v Speaker 6>Alfred had gone on a fishing trip with his parents

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<v Speaker 6>and ten older siblings for the Independence Day weekend. Alfred

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<v Speaker 6>was with his family on a trail near Fall River

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<v Speaker 6>when he fell behind the rest of them and vanished.

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<v Speaker 6>A search began immediately and expanded to more than one

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<v Speaker 6>hundred Civilian Conservation Corps members Within forty five minutes, but

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<v Speaker 6>there was barely any sign of Alfred anywhere. The authorities

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<v Speaker 6>originally believed Alfred had fallen into the river. They dammed

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<v Speaker 6>it up and dragged it for six miles, but didn't

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<v Speaker 6>find any sign of him. Bloodhounds tract Alfred sent five

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<v Speaker 6>hundred feet uphill before they reached a fork in the

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<v Speaker 6>trail and lost the scent. A couple hiking in another

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<v Speaker 6>part of the park, six miles away and twenty five

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<v Speaker 6>hundred to three thousand feet higher elevation than the spot

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<v Speaker 6>Alfred disappeared from, reported hearing a cry and seeing a

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<v Speaker 6>small boy resembling Alfred on a high ridge in a

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<v Speaker 6>treacherous area called the Devil's Nest near the top of

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<v Speaker 6>Mount Chaplain. By the time investigators arrived there a day later,

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<v Speaker 6>the boy was gone. An extensive ten day search involving

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<v Speaker 6>one hundred and fifty volunteers turned up no indication of

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<v Speaker 6>the child's whereabouts. Due to the passage of time since

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<v Speaker 6>Alfred's disappearance, his case is no longer being investigated. He

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<v Speaker 6>was never found. John Doe and his robot Grandma on

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<v Speaker 6>October first, twenty ten, three and a half year old

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<v Speaker 6>John Doe, as he's being reported, and his relatives were

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<v Speaker 6>camping by a popular fly fishing location near Mount Shasta.

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<v Speaker 6>Around six pm, the child's parents realized their son had

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<v Speaker 6>suddenly gone missing. According to mister Doe, his youngster was

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<v Speaker 6>there one second and gone the next. They scoured the

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<v Speaker 6>area he had last been seen in complete panic, stricken horror.

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<v Speaker 6>After hours of feverishly searching, the little boys still had

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<v Speaker 6>not turned up. Now desperate, the distraught father decided to

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<v Speaker 6>call local police deputies in the United States for service officers.

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<v Speaker 6>Rescue personnel calmed the forest well into the night, yet

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<v Speaker 6>there was no sign of the toddler. Five hours after

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<v Speaker 6>John had disappeared, authorities found him laid down on the

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<v Speaker 6>brush directly next to the trail that had been previously searched.

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<v Speaker 6>He appeared to be in a dazed, semi conscious state.

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<v Speaker 6>Mister Missus Dowe attributed this to exhaustion and were simply

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<v Speaker 6>grateful that little One returned physically unharmed. Medical staff gave

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<v Speaker 6>full cleance, so the freshly reunited family were permitted to

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<v Speaker 6>return home. Everyone's lives quickly went back to normal, yet

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<v Speaker 6>only a few weeks later, the small boy would share

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<v Speaker 6>a disturbing tale about his terriforing ordeal. One day, Little

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<v Speaker 6>John's grandmother, Kathy, who he called Cappy, was playing with him. Suddenly,

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<v Speaker 6>he looked towards her and said that he didn't like

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<v Speaker 6>the other Grandma Cappy. Confused, she asked him what exactly

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<v Speaker 6>he meant. Little John explained that while he was lost

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<v Speaker 6>in the woods, he'd been taken deep inside a mountainside

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<v Speaker 6>cave by woman he thought was Grandma Cappy. She led

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<v Speaker 6>him into a cool, dark, spider infested room filled with

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<v Speaker 6>motionless humanoid robots. Scattered across the floor were dusty purses, guns,

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<v Speaker 6>and other various types of weapons. As John anxiously faced

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02:03:41.920 --> 02:03:45.680
<v Speaker 6>his grandmother, he noticed an eerie light radiating from her head.

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<v Speaker 6>In this moment, he realized she was not as real Granny.

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<v Speaker 6>Grandma Cappy firmly and stroked the boy to defecate on

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<v Speaker 6>a piece of paper. When he refused, she became increasingly

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02:03:59.279 --> 02:04:04.279
<v Speaker 6>agitated and repeatedly requested him to do so. Eventually, the

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<v Speaker 6>grandma look alike to come to frustration and moved on

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<v Speaker 6>to a different topic. Allegedly, she informed little John that

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<v Speaker 6>he had been planted in his mother's womb and was

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<v Speaker 6>actually from outer space. Shortly after this extraordinary account, she

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<v Speaker 6>took the boy back outside to a thicket and advised

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<v Speaker 6>him to wait for help. Upon hearing this disturbing story

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<v Speaker 6>from her grandson, an outraged Grandma Kathy called her son

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<v Speaker 6>and demanded to know what he was laying her grandchildren

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<v Speaker 6>to watch on television. Mister Doelt lamented that he had

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<v Speaker 6>heard an identical recollection only a few days prior. Initially,

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<v Speaker 6>the two chalked it up to an overactive imagination. Yet

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<v Speaker 6>the more Grandma Cathy thought about it, the more Little

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<v Speaker 6>John's story perplexed her. What kind of TV show would

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<v Speaker 6>feature some of the ludicrous topics that the boy was describing.

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<v Speaker 6>Even more chilling was the idea that she might have

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<v Speaker 6>some kind of doppelgangeress usuming her identity in order to

2145
02:05:01.680 --> 02:05:06.119
<v Speaker 6>abduct ennis and victims. With those particular thoughts in mind,

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<v Speaker 6>Kathy decided to share a haunting experience of her own.

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<v Speaker 6>Only a year before, she had gone on a camping

2148
02:05:12.520 --> 02:05:17.159
<v Speaker 6>trip within close proximity toward Little John's Ordela occurred in

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<v Speaker 6>the morning, she awoke face down in the dirt. Somehow

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02:05:21.319 --> 02:05:24.359
<v Speaker 6>she had been inexplicably removed from the sleeping bag within

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<v Speaker 6>her tent and transferred a short distance away. Upon rousing,

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<v Speaker 6>she felt an intense pain at the base of her neck.

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<v Speaker 6>Two punctured wounds were present, and the surrounding skin was

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<v Speaker 6>red and inflamed. Another friend, who accompanied her on the excursion,

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02:05:39.840 --> 02:05:44.439
<v Speaker 6>suffered a matching affliction. The pair originally attributed these injuries

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02:05:44.479 --> 02:05:48.880
<v Speaker 6>to a possible spider bite. Both Kathy and her travel

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02:05:48.920 --> 02:05:52.960
<v Speaker 6>companion became violently ill. In fact, she was so sick

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<v Speaker 6>that she could not even muster the strength to pack

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<v Speaker 6>her things. Her mind raised as she desperately tried to

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<v Speaker 6>recall what happened hours ago. Only one thing surfaced, glowing

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02:06:04.800 --> 02:06:08.840
<v Speaker 6>red eyes. While she was drifting into slumber, she remembered

2162
02:06:08.840 --> 02:06:12.279
<v Speaker 6>seeing several creatures gazing through the darkness. At the time,

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<v Speaker 6>she assumed they were produced by a herd of deer.

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<v Speaker 6>Following this traumatizing outing, Cathy felt completely drained of her

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<v Speaker 6>creativity and emotions. Several months would pass before she felt

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<v Speaker 6>like her old self again. Admittedly, Grandma Cappy would have

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<v Speaker 6>dismissed her episode had Little John not come forward with

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<v Speaker 6>his first hand in counter. Now, listeners to this channel

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<v Speaker 6>are no doubt familiar with the legends of lore pertaining

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<v Speaker 6>to Mount Shasta that existed throughout the centuries. We've done

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<v Speaker 6>a video about it. The indigenous peoples of the area

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<v Speaker 6>chronicle the fallen race of prehistoric giants that were set

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02:06:47.119 --> 02:06:51.640
<v Speaker 6>to inhabit the region. Others claimed beings known as Lemerians

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<v Speaker 6>used local caves as entrances to an underground crystalline city

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<v Speaker 6>called Telos. Some allege a large energy vortex is is

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<v Speaker 6>it within the territory. In modern times, there are many

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<v Speaker 6>UFO and big Foot sightings reported each year. Though twenty

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<v Speaker 6>six thousand visitors flocked to the Severed Mountain from countries

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<v Speaker 6>across the globe, there have been an alarmingly high number

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<v Speaker 6>of curious missing person cases within this picture Esquterraine by

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<v Speaker 6>Little John Doe's incident seems unbelievable. It's important to consider

2182
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<v Speaker 6>the odd history and happenings afflicting this area. An open

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<v Speaker 6>mind may be the only thing that we'll finally resolve

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<v Speaker 6>this age old mystery. Well, folks, there you have it.

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<v Speaker 6>What do you think of these cases? Make sure you

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<v Speaker 6>let us know in the comments below. Also, if you

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<v Speaker 6>enjoyed this video, please like and share it with your

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<v Speaker 6>friends on social media. By liking and sharing our videos.

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<v Speaker 6>You're helping our channel and videos to get noticed by

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<v Speaker 6>the YouTube algorithm. Till we meet again, take care of

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<v Speaker 6>yourselves and each other. I'm Steve Stockton and I'll tell

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<v Speaker 6>to you next time. Hello friends, Steve Stockton here with you.

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome to our latest episode. Join me, let's walk and see.

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<v Speaker 6>The Pine Barns in New Jersey is the largest remaining

2195
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<v Speaker 6>example of the Atlantic coastal pine barrens ecosystem, stretching across

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<v Speaker 6>more than seven counties of New Jersey. In the United States,

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<v Speaker 6>the Pine Barons remained mostly rural and undisturbed despite its

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<v Speaker 6>proximity to the sprawling metropolis of places like New York

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<v Speaker 6>City and Philadelphia, and it's in the center of the

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<v Speaker 6>very densely populated Boston Washington Corridor. Along the eastern seaboard.

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<v Speaker 6>The heavily traveled Garden State Parkway and the Atlantic City

2202
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<v Speaker 6>Expressway traverse sections of the Eastern and Southern Pine Barons, respectively.

2203
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<v Speaker 6>The protected wilderness covers more than one millionaire of land.

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<v Speaker 6>The Pine Barons, or simply the Pines, as it's sometimes

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<v Speaker 6>called locally, is also a place of much local legend

2206
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<v Speaker 6>and lore from alleged mob dumping sites to the Jersey

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<v Speaker 6>Devil himself. There is so much mystery in this area

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<v Speaker 6>of the Garden State, we could never know the truth

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<v Speaker 6>of it all. In this episode, we're going to discuss

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<v Speaker 6>one more mystery and long line of many at Midley,

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<v Speaker 6>one that most people probably haven't heard of and may

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<v Speaker 6>never be solved. The circumstances surrounding the disappearance and demise

2213
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<v Speaker 6>of a local couple to this area are very strange. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 6>here's what we know so far. Here's the story of

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<v Speaker 6>the strange and suspicious disappearance and demise of Gary and

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<v Speaker 6>Lorraine Parker. On November twenty third, twenty twenty one, Gary

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<v Speaker 6>Lorraine Parker's daughter sent out a Facebook message and notified

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<v Speaker 6>the local authorities that our parents were missing. The couple

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<v Speaker 6>were residents of Warren Grove, which is a small unincorporated

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<v Speaker 6>community located within the Bearns Scant thirty seven miles north

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<v Speaker 6>of Atlantic City. It seems that Gary sixty seven and

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<v Speaker 6>his wife, Lorraine sixty decided to take a trip on

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<v Speaker 6>their all terrain vehicle into the Pine Bearings, which was

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<v Speaker 6>located right near their home. This is something they did

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<v Speaker 6>often and was not unusual in and of itself. What

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<v Speaker 6>happened next, though, was very strange. Gary Lorraine's daughter Lindsay,

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<v Speaker 6>posted on Facebook that her parents went missing at twelve

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<v Speaker 6>forty one in the morning on the seventeenth. She later wrote,

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<v Speaker 6>my parents quad has been found along with my father's

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<v Speaker 6>shotgun which was strapped to it. Still no sign of

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<v Speaker 6>either of my parents. Their quad was found stuck in

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<v Speaker 6>a field not far from their home that my dad

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<v Speaker 6>had used for years to bait deer. Trailcam footage has

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<v Speaker 6>nothing after footage captured last week. Now, there was no

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<v Speaker 6>exact date released as to when the couple actually went missing,

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<v Speaker 6>aside from the fact that Lorraine was last seen on

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<v Speaker 6>the seventeenth. Captain James Vaughan of the Stafford Police said

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<v Speaker 6>he didn't believe the couple went hunting, noting that in

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<v Speaker 6>the rural community many people have shotguns readily available. Captain

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<v Speaker 6>Vaughan continued that even if the couple were out in

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<v Speaker 6>the almost for a few nights, he was hopeful they

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<v Speaker 6>could survive because they are both avid outdoors people. He said.

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<v Speaker 6>When the two day search effort, which included more than

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<v Speaker 6>one hundred searchers, police dogs ATVs drones and air support

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<v Speaker 6>failed to find the couple. Stafford Police turned the search

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<v Speaker 6>over to its detectives and the Ocean County Prosecutor's office.

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<v Speaker 6>The couple's disappearances somewhat shilling and only lends to the

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<v Speaker 6>terrifying mystique of the land itself within the pine bearings.

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<v Speaker 6>The Stafford Police hadn't given up their search even though

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<v Speaker 6>they had officially handed it over. It was the same

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<v Speaker 6>drone that had been used previously in the searches that

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<v Speaker 6>eventually found the couple. Captain Vaughan stated about to discovery

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<v Speaker 6>the couple's bodies, the only way we were able to

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<v Speaker 6>find them was by using a drone. He was describing

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<v Speaker 6>the density of the woods in that area. We did

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<v Speaker 6>have people in the area, but I can tell you

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<v Speaker 6>it's the thickest part of the pine barons you're going

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<v Speaker 6>to find. The couple's remains were found at around one

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<v Speaker 6>pm the following Tuesday, after they had been reported missing

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<v Speaker 6>by their daughter, Lindsey. Captain Vaughn himself had taken part

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<v Speaker 6>in the grid search, and he said there were wooded

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<v Speaker 6>areas there that were virtually impassable. He continued, there were

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<v Speaker 6>times I couldn't see six inches in front of my face,

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<v Speaker 6>and there were times I had to crawl underneath things

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<v Speaker 6>to get through the brush. Again, without the use of

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<v Speaker 6>the drone, it was nearly impossible. You could have walked

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<v Speaker 6>by them and not seen them unless you were directly looking.

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<v Speaker 6>It was very thick, very dense. The question still remains, though,

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<v Speaker 6>what exactly were the couple doing in such a dense

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<v Speaker 6>and virtually impassable part of the Pine Barons. They were

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<v Speaker 6>found about two hundred to two hundred and fifty yards

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<v Speaker 6>from their home, at about seventy yards from the ATV

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<v Speaker 6>they're believed to have driven into the woods. The search

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02:12:54.159 --> 02:12:56.880
<v Speaker 6>party was estimated to have covered over a thousand acres,

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<v Speaker 6>Captain Vaughn said, citing the New Jersey State Police Person's

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<v Speaker 6>Unit now about a week earlier, and the details are

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<v Speaker 6>a bit sketchy. Here a small amount of methamphetamine was

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02:13:07.720 --> 02:13:11.159
<v Speaker 6>found on the Parker's property. The law enforcement rate of

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<v Speaker 6>a suspected drug lab approximately two miles away from the

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<v Speaker 6>Parker residents fueled online sluice and conspiracy theorists alike everywhere.

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<v Speaker 6>The speculation grew so widely out of hand that the

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<v Speaker 6>Stafford Police felt compelled to write a statement in a

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<v Speaker 6>news release regarding the investigation into the meth lab. It

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<v Speaker 6>stated this investigation, meaning the lab raid, was not related

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<v Speaker 6>to the missing person's investigation involving Gary and Lorraine Parker

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02:13:36.239 --> 02:13:39.760
<v Speaker 6>of Warren Grove. While authorities said they do not suspect

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02:13:39.760 --> 02:13:42.319
<v Speaker 6>foul play, they are being rather tight lipped as to

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<v Speaker 6>what they do think occurred. They said they believe most

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<v Speaker 6>likely scenario is that one of the pair had some

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02:13:47.760 --> 02:13:50.439
<v Speaker 6>sort of medical emergency and the other was unwilling to

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<v Speaker 6>leave them to go for help. Now, there are plenty

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<v Speaker 6>of flaws with this theory, though, How did they both

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02:13:56.039 --> 02:13:58.760
<v Speaker 6>end up dying? Then? Why were they in such a

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<v Speaker 6>deep and dense, relatively unpassable part of the pine bearings.

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<v Speaker 6>The couple would go out there often, remember and presumably

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02:14:05.880 --> 02:14:08.319
<v Speaker 6>knew which areas were for hiking and writing, walking and

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02:14:08.359 --> 02:14:12.680
<v Speaker 6>recreation and which areas clearly weren't. Why they left their

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02:14:12.720 --> 02:14:15.960
<v Speaker 6>ATV in the first place, and why leave the shotgun

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02:14:16.000 --> 02:14:19.960
<v Speaker 6>strapped to the ATV? The police stated in their initial

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<v Speaker 6>report upon finding the off road vehicle that it didn't

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<v Speaker 6>seem as though it had crashed and wasn't damaged in

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<v Speaker 6>any way. This as with everything else, only lends more

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02:14:29.199 --> 02:14:33.199
<v Speaker 6>mystery to this already very strange case. If they didn't

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02:14:33.199 --> 02:14:35.439
<v Speaker 6>have an accident, then why leave the vehicle at all.

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<v Speaker 6>Gary and Lorraine were found lying together some distance from

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02:14:39.239 --> 02:14:43.119
<v Speaker 6>their ATV, though the injuries weren't listed or relayed to

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02:14:43.119 --> 02:14:46.239
<v Speaker 6>the public anyway, it was reported that they were heavily

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02:14:46.279 --> 02:14:52.000
<v Speaker 6>injured from sharp vegetation. In the underbrush of this implausible mystery,

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<v Speaker 6>Captain James Bond stated, I don't think we're ever going

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<v Speaker 6>to know. I mean, there wasn't an ATV crash per se,

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02:14:59.079 --> 02:15:01.079
<v Speaker 6>but why they got off and why they ended up

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02:15:01.079 --> 02:15:03.000
<v Speaker 6>in the thicket the way they did that far from

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02:15:03.039 --> 02:15:07.399
<v Speaker 6>their house, We're never going to know. And there you

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02:15:07.439 --> 02:15:10.279
<v Speaker 6>have it. I look forward to reading your opinions on

2315
02:15:10.319 --> 02:15:14.560
<v Speaker 6>this case, but please remain respectful of the victims, victims families,

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02:15:15.000 --> 02:15:18.399
<v Speaker 6>and the opinions of others. Be good to yourselves and

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<v Speaker 6>each other. I'll see you a little farther on down

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<v Speaker 6>the road. I'm Steve Starkon and I'll talk to you

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<v Speaker 6>next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Annette Swanson is joining us. She is the mother of

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon Swanson, joining us from Minnesota. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for joining us from Marshall, Minnesota. Actually, first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you, miss Swanson, you were on

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02:15:59.319 --> 02:16:02.479
<v Speaker 2>the phone with your son a large part of those

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02:16:02.520 --> 02:16:04.760
<v Speaker 2>early hours when you were trying to find him and

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02:16:04.800 --> 02:16:08.399
<v Speaker 2>he was trying to find you. He wasn't hurt at all, right,

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02:16:08.439 --> 02:16:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean the car went into a ditch, but he

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02:16:10.880 --> 02:16:12.079
<v Speaker 2>seemed to be okay.

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<v Speaker 9>Correct, He said he was fine, that he was not injured.

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<v Speaker 9>And you know, in fact, when we did find his vehicle,

2331
02:16:20.479 --> 02:16:22.960
<v Speaker 9>there was no damage to it. It was simply muddy

2332
02:16:23.119 --> 02:16:26.439
<v Speaker 9>from being on a gravel road, but no damage to

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02:16:26.479 --> 02:16:26.960
<v Speaker 9>the vehicle.

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<v Speaker 2>What was it like that night to be going through

2335
02:16:32.159 --> 02:16:36.440
<v Speaker 2>this and so close to your son, but so far

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02:16:36.559 --> 02:16:37.799
<v Speaker 2>from your son?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, you knows. As you know, as Brandon tried to

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02:16:44.879 --> 02:16:47.159
<v Speaker 9>explain to us where his location was, and he was

2339
02:16:47.239 --> 02:16:51.639
<v Speaker 9>extremely sure of himself. He felt confident in where he

2340
02:16:51.760 --> 02:16:54.479
<v Speaker 9>was at and that we were the ones that were

2341
02:16:54.520 --> 02:16:57.200
<v Speaker 9>confused about, you know, how to get to him. And

2342
02:16:59.360 --> 02:17:02.799
<v Speaker 9>as the convert station went on, as the minutes ticked by,

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02:17:02.920 --> 02:17:05.600
<v Speaker 9>you know, it came to a point where it's as

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02:17:05.639 --> 02:17:08.840
<v Speaker 9>long as Brandon was on the phone, as long as

2345
02:17:08.920 --> 02:17:11.399
<v Speaker 9>he was talking, as long as we had contact, it

2346
02:17:11.520 --> 02:17:15.840
<v Speaker 9>was okay. We would be okay. But the minute that

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02:17:15.879 --> 02:17:21.520
<v Speaker 9>he that that call dropped, I just became sick. I

2348
02:17:21.600 --> 02:17:25.159
<v Speaker 9>knew it was wrong. I knew it was very, very bad,

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02:17:25.360 --> 02:17:31.040
<v Speaker 9>and just could hardly fathom, you know, what was happening

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02:17:31.040 --> 02:17:31.639
<v Speaker 9>at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I can imagine, I mean to take a breath now,

2352
02:17:36.399 --> 02:17:40.159
<v Speaker 2>when the call just hung up like that with Brandon

2353
02:17:40.600 --> 02:17:44.280
<v Speaker 2>in dire distress. I mean, those were the words that

2354
02:17:44.360 --> 02:17:47.000
<v Speaker 2>he seemed to utter when he said, Oh, oh, did

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02:17:47.079 --> 02:17:47.719
<v Speaker 2>you try to call.

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<v Speaker 6>Him after that?

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<v Speaker 12>And what happened?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh? Yes, we did, you know, we we didn't immediately

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02:17:52.360 --> 02:17:54.559
<v Speaker 9>hang up the phone. We you know, we called his name.

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02:17:54.680 --> 02:17:58.440
<v Speaker 9>We tried to you know, thinking that he still had

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02:17:58.479 --> 02:18:00.200
<v Speaker 9>the phone, that it was very near him, that he

2362
02:18:00.239 --> 02:18:02.239
<v Speaker 9>could pick it up. We'd he'd hear our voice, and

2363
02:18:02.280 --> 02:18:06.319
<v Speaker 9>we called out to him several times, and we realized,

2364
02:18:06.360 --> 02:18:11.600
<v Speaker 9>you know, he's he's not there, So we did We

2365
02:18:11.680 --> 02:18:16.760
<v Speaker 9>called him back several times, thinking, you know, he'll he'll

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02:18:16.760 --> 02:18:18.959
<v Speaker 9>see the phone light up, even if he didn't have

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02:18:19.040 --> 02:18:21.319
<v Speaker 9>it on ring, he would see his phone light up

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02:18:21.319 --> 02:18:24.680
<v Speaker 9>when the call came in and he'd find it, you know,

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02:18:24.879 --> 02:18:29.120
<v Speaker 9>he'd answer the call. And it just didn't happen. Time

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<v Speaker 9>and again just it just went unanswered.

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<v Speaker 6>Hello friends, Steve Stockton here with you in this video

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<v Speaker 6>we bring you the strange case of Brandon Swanson. On

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<v Speaker 6>the night of May thirteenth, two thousand and eight, nineteen

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02:18:48.959 --> 02:18:52.360
<v Speaker 6>year old Brandon Swanson from Marshall, Minnesota, went out with

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02:18:52.399 --> 02:18:54.319
<v Speaker 6>some friends to have a few drinks and some fun.

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02:18:55.159 --> 02:18:57.920
<v Speaker 6>It was a Tuesday night, but Brandon had just completed

2377
02:18:57.959 --> 02:19:01.559
<v Speaker 6>his first year of Minnesota West Community Technical College that day,

2378
02:19:02.040 --> 02:19:03.920
<v Speaker 6>so he and his friends went to the nearby town

2379
02:19:04.000 --> 02:19:08.159
<v Speaker 6>of Lynn to hang out and celebrate. Between ten thirty

2380
02:19:08.200 --> 02:19:11.200
<v Speaker 6>and eleven PM, Brandon left the friends he originally set

2381
02:19:11.239 --> 02:19:13.799
<v Speaker 6>out with and drove to another friend's house in Camby

2382
02:19:13.879 --> 02:19:17.479
<v Speaker 6>to say goodbye to yet another friend. His friends who

2383
02:19:17.520 --> 02:19:19.280
<v Speaker 6>were with him and Lynn said that when he got

2384
02:19:19.280 --> 02:19:22.520
<v Speaker 6>into his car to make the short drive he wasn't intoxicated,

2385
02:19:22.879 --> 02:19:25.440
<v Speaker 6>and other witnesses who saw him that night all agreed

2386
02:19:25.479 --> 02:19:28.000
<v Speaker 6>he was not by any means intoxicated when he arrived

2387
02:19:28.000 --> 02:19:31.000
<v Speaker 6>at the friend's house either. They said he had one

2388
02:19:31.000 --> 02:19:33.920
<v Speaker 6>shot of whiskey and then left some time after midnight

2389
02:19:34.000 --> 02:19:36.760
<v Speaker 6>to head back to Marshall. Presumably he was head at

2390
02:19:36.760 --> 02:19:39.360
<v Speaker 6>home at that point. The director route from Camby to

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02:19:39.399 --> 02:19:44.040
<v Speaker 6>Marshall is a thirty minute drive on Highway sixty eight. Technically,

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<v Speaker 6>the next day, on May fourteenth, at around one thirty

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<v Speaker 6>in the morning, Brandon got his car stuck in a

2394
02:19:49.719 --> 02:19:53.440
<v Speaker 6>ditch along the gravel road. He tried calling multiple friends

2395
02:19:53.440 --> 02:19:56.479
<v Speaker 6>for help, but unfortunately no one answered the calls and

2396
02:19:56.559 --> 02:20:00.120
<v Speaker 6>Brandon remained stuck on the side of the road. One

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02:20:00.280 --> 02:20:02.879
<v Speaker 6>fifty four am. Brandon called his parents and told him

2398
02:20:02.879 --> 02:20:05.079
<v Speaker 6>who he was and what had happened, and asked if

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02:20:05.120 --> 02:20:06.600
<v Speaker 6>they could come and get him as he needed a

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02:20:06.680 --> 02:20:11.159
<v Speaker 6>ride home. His parents, Annette and Brian Swanson, agreed to

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02:20:11.200 --> 02:20:13.040
<v Speaker 6>come and pick him up and ask where he was

2402
02:20:13.200 --> 02:20:15.799
<v Speaker 6>so they knew where to go to find him. He

2403
02:20:15.840 --> 02:20:18.159
<v Speaker 6>told them he was between Marshall and Lynn, and he

2404
02:20:18.200 --> 02:20:20.799
<v Speaker 6>assured them he wasn't injured at all, but just wanted

2405
02:20:20.799 --> 02:20:24.200
<v Speaker 6>to get home. When his parents arrived at the location

2406
02:20:24.360 --> 02:20:27.280
<v Speaker 6>Brandon had given them, he wasn't there and was nowhere

2407
02:20:27.319 --> 02:20:30.440
<v Speaker 6>in sight. His mother called him on his cell phone

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02:20:30.479 --> 02:20:32.760
<v Speaker 6>and the two decided to start flashing their lights to

2409
02:20:32.799 --> 02:20:35.879
<v Speaker 6>alert the other of where they were. They all assumed

2410
02:20:35.879 --> 02:20:37.639
<v Speaker 6>at this point that they must have been very close

2411
02:20:37.680 --> 02:20:40.479
<v Speaker 6>to one another but were just missing the other somehow

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<v Speaker 6>Annette could hear her son flashing his lights, and she

2413
02:20:43.799 --> 02:20:47.200
<v Speaker 6>informed him she was doing the same. She told him,

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02:20:47.280 --> 02:20:50.600
<v Speaker 6>we're flashing our lights. We're flashing our lights, to which

2415
02:20:50.639 --> 02:20:55.239
<v Speaker 6>Brandon replied, don't you see me. Both Annette and Brandon

2416
02:20:55.280 --> 02:20:58.239
<v Speaker 6>were very frustrated at this point, and Brandon ended up

2417
02:20:58.280 --> 02:21:01.479
<v Speaker 6>hanging up on his mother. She immediately called him back

2418
02:21:01.520 --> 02:21:04.000
<v Speaker 6>with the intention of apologizing to him for getting worked

2419
02:21:04.040 --> 02:21:07.280
<v Speaker 6>up a bit herself. Brandon answered and told his mother

2420
02:21:07.360 --> 02:21:09.799
<v Speaker 6>that he could see the town's lights referring to Lynn,

2421
02:21:10.079 --> 02:21:11.799
<v Speaker 6>and that he was just going to start walking in

2422
02:21:11.840 --> 02:21:14.479
<v Speaker 6>the direction of town. He told her to just meet

2423
02:21:14.520 --> 02:21:16.440
<v Speaker 6>him in the parking lot of a local tavern in

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02:21:16.520 --> 02:21:19.280
<v Speaker 6>the town of Lynn. She agreed to meet him there.

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02:21:20.399 --> 02:21:23.479
<v Speaker 6>As his parents drove to the tavern, they maintained contact

2426
02:21:23.479 --> 02:21:26.079
<v Speaker 6>with Brandon, with Brian staying on the phone with him.

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02:21:26.920 --> 02:21:28.920
<v Speaker 6>Brandon told his father he was going to cut through

2428
02:21:28.959 --> 02:21:31.360
<v Speaker 6>some fields to take a kind of shortcut and save

2429
02:21:31.440 --> 02:21:35.239
<v Speaker 6>some time on his trip. Since he was walking along

2430
02:21:35.280 --> 02:21:37.639
<v Speaker 6>the way, Brandon was telling his father over the phone

2431
02:21:37.719 --> 02:21:41.239
<v Speaker 6>what he was seeing and passing. He walked on gravel roads,

2432
02:21:41.719 --> 02:21:45.719
<v Speaker 6>saw two fence lines, and heard running water about forty

2433
02:21:45.719 --> 02:21:49.760
<v Speaker 6>seven minutes into the call, Brandon yelled, and then the

2434
02:21:49.799 --> 02:21:53.959
<v Speaker 6>call disconnected. Brian Swanson later said it sounded as though

2435
02:21:54.000 --> 02:21:58.239
<v Speaker 6>his son had fallen down or possibly slipped. Brian Annanette

2436
02:21:58.239 --> 02:22:01.239
<v Speaker 6>tried repeatedly to call Brandon back, but he never answered

2437
02:22:01.239 --> 02:22:04.520
<v Speaker 6>the phone again. It would just ring and ring until

2438
02:22:04.559 --> 02:22:07.040
<v Speaker 6>sometime the next day, when the call started going straight

2439
02:22:07.079 --> 02:22:09.840
<v Speaker 6>to voicemail and it was assumed that the phone had died.

2440
02:22:11.079 --> 02:22:13.639
<v Speaker 6>Brandon Swanson hasn't been seen or heard from since the

2441
02:22:13.760 --> 02:22:16.000
<v Speaker 6>end of that faithful call with his father that night.

2442
02:22:17.559 --> 02:22:21.000
<v Speaker 6>That same morning, May fourteenth, two thousand and eight, Brandon's

2443
02:22:21.040 --> 02:22:24.040
<v Speaker 6>parents called the police to report him as missing. As

2444
02:22:24.040 --> 02:22:26.239
<v Speaker 6>it's usually the case, the police didn't take the call

2445
02:22:26.440 --> 02:22:30.040
<v Speaker 6>very seriously, insisted that they wait a little while, as

2446
02:22:30.079 --> 02:22:32.879
<v Speaker 6>it wasn't unusual for young men Brandon's age to go

2447
02:22:33.000 --> 02:22:37.760
<v Speaker 6>missing voluntarily for a bit without telling their parents. Later

2448
02:22:37.840 --> 02:22:40.639
<v Speaker 6>on in the day, cell phone records for Brandon's phone

2449
02:22:40.719 --> 02:22:43.440
<v Speaker 6>were retrieved, and they showed his last things were from

2450
02:22:43.479 --> 02:22:47.319
<v Speaker 6>near Porter, Minnesota, which is about twenty five miles away

2451
02:22:47.360 --> 02:22:49.399
<v Speaker 6>from where he seemed to have thought he was in Lynn.

2452
02:22:50.360 --> 02:22:54.360
<v Speaker 6>There's no way the town he saw was Lynn. Shortly

2453
02:22:54.440 --> 02:22:57.479
<v Speaker 6>before noon. The authorities began their official search for Brandon.

2454
02:22:58.360 --> 02:23:02.040
<v Speaker 6>At around twelve thirty pm, his vehicle, a Chevrolet Lumina,

2455
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<v Speaker 6>was found in a ditch bordering the towns of Lincoln

2456
02:23:04.879 --> 02:23:09.440
<v Speaker 6>and Yellow Medicine. Lacoy County Sheriff Jack Mazeki stated that

2457
02:23:09.440 --> 02:23:12.239
<v Speaker 6>the ditch was positioned where Brandon wouldn't have been able

2458
02:23:12.280 --> 02:23:14.639
<v Speaker 6>to gain any traction to be able to drive himself

2459
02:23:14.639 --> 02:23:17.319
<v Speaker 6>out of it. There was no visible damage to the

2460
02:23:17.440 --> 02:23:20.239
<v Speaker 6>vehicle and no signs of foul play or injury at

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<v Speaker 6>the scene. In the months following his disappearance, law enforcement

2462
02:23:24.319 --> 02:23:29.280
<v Speaker 6>conducted searches on horseback, using ATVs and even foot searchers,

2463
02:23:29.479 --> 02:23:33.000
<v Speaker 6>but to no avail. They even utilized sniffer dogs and

2464
02:23:33.040 --> 02:23:36.760
<v Speaker 6>searched around and near several bodies of water. The dogs

2465
02:23:36.840 --> 02:23:38.719
<v Speaker 6>ended up leading their handlers to the edge of the

2466
02:23:38.799 --> 02:23:41.479
<v Speaker 6>Yellow Medicine River, which led authorities to come to the

2467
02:23:41.520 --> 02:23:45.920
<v Speaker 6>conclusion that Brandon had somehow fallen into the water. This

2468
02:23:46.000 --> 02:23:48.799
<v Speaker 6>led them to conduct extensive searches in the river, but

2469
02:23:48.920 --> 02:23:52.360
<v Speaker 6>they came up empty every time. Because of this, they

2470
02:23:52.399 --> 02:23:55.440
<v Speaker 6>then concluded that if Brandon did indeed fall into the water,

2471
02:23:55.840 --> 02:23:57.719
<v Speaker 6>he must have made his way back out of it

2472
02:23:57.760 --> 02:24:00.879
<v Speaker 6>at some point and didn't drown. They believed he just

2473
02:24:00.920 --> 02:24:02.879
<v Speaker 6>got himself out of the river and continued on his

2474
02:24:02.959 --> 02:24:07.000
<v Speaker 6>way walking. Their conclusion then was that he must have

2475
02:24:07.040 --> 02:24:09.840
<v Speaker 6>died of hypothermia due to the temperature dropping below forty

2476
02:24:09.879 --> 02:24:13.719
<v Speaker 6>degrees on the night that he went missing. Search dogs

2477
02:24:13.760 --> 02:24:17.000
<v Speaker 6>also alerted to human remains being near Mud Creek. However,

2478
02:24:17.079 --> 02:24:19.920
<v Speaker 6>authorities never found any remains at all in this area,

2479
02:24:20.079 --> 02:24:24.719
<v Speaker 6>let alone Brandon's. Authorities believed Brandon could have been anywhere

2480
02:24:24.760 --> 02:24:26.959
<v Speaker 6>within one hundred and twenty two square mile radius of

2481
02:24:27.000 --> 02:24:31.200
<v Speaker 6>the river ten years after he seemingly disappeared into thin

2482
02:24:31.280 --> 02:24:36.120
<v Speaker 6>air the Yellow Medicine County Sheriff Bill flood Instead. It's

2483
02:24:36.120 --> 02:24:39.200
<v Speaker 6>a huge area if you take that immediate area where

2484
02:24:39.200 --> 02:24:41.639
<v Speaker 6>the car was and in the timeframe when he was

2485
02:24:41.680 --> 02:24:44.120
<v Speaker 6>talking on the phone with his parents. Who knows what

2486
02:24:44.239 --> 02:24:47.920
<v Speaker 6>direction he went and how far he traveled. A volunteer

2487
02:24:48.040 --> 02:24:51.000
<v Speaker 6>firefighter named Darren E. Delzer came up with his own

2488
02:24:51.040 --> 02:24:53.959
<v Speaker 6>theory as to what could have happened to Brandon. He

2489
02:24:54.000 --> 02:24:56.120
<v Speaker 6>took everything he had learned about the case and put

2490
02:24:56.159 --> 02:24:59.840
<v Speaker 6>it all together. He noted that Brandon always wore glasses

2491
02:25:00.000 --> 02:25:03.399
<v Speaker 6>because he was legally blind in his left eye. However,

2492
02:25:03.680 --> 02:25:06.239
<v Speaker 6>on the morning he went missing, he'd left his glasses

2493
02:25:06.239 --> 02:25:10.120
<v Speaker 6>in his car. Based on Darren's theory, we could assume

2494
02:25:10.200 --> 02:25:12.479
<v Speaker 6>Brandon also left him in his car when he left

2495
02:25:12.559 --> 02:25:14.639
<v Speaker 6>in the ditch to start walking to go and meet

2496
02:25:14.680 --> 02:25:17.319
<v Speaker 6>his parents, and therefore wasn't wearing them the whole time

2497
02:25:17.319 --> 02:25:19.319
<v Speaker 6>he was on the phone with his folks that night.

2498
02:25:20.040 --> 02:25:22.159
<v Speaker 6>He made a note of the fact that right before

2499
02:25:22.200 --> 02:25:25.440
<v Speaker 6>Brandon said oh shit and possibly slipped when the phone

2500
02:25:25.479 --> 02:25:29.879
<v Speaker 6>disconnected for the final time, he also said, not another fence.

2501
02:25:31.239 --> 02:25:33.920
<v Speaker 6>He concluded that Brandon must have fallen into an unmarked

2502
02:25:33.920 --> 02:25:36.799
<v Speaker 6>well or system, which are very common in rural areas

2503
02:25:36.840 --> 02:25:40.639
<v Speaker 6>like the ones where Brandon went missing. There are theories

2504
02:25:40.680 --> 02:25:43.760
<v Speaker 6>such as Brandon simply left on purpose and orchestrated the

2505
02:25:43.799 --> 02:25:47.479
<v Speaker 6>whole disappearance. This theory alleges he is living under an

2506
02:25:47.520 --> 02:25:52.280
<v Speaker 6>assumed identity somewhere. Most people don't give this theory much credit,

2507
02:25:52.319 --> 02:25:55.000
<v Speaker 6>as if you remember Brandon was calling his parents and

2508
02:25:55.040 --> 02:25:58.719
<v Speaker 6>several friends that night trying to find someone to help him,

2509
02:25:59.040 --> 02:26:01.200
<v Speaker 6>it makes more sense he really was trying to get

2510
02:26:01.239 --> 02:26:05.399
<v Speaker 6>help that night, and not trying to purposely disappear. Theories

2511
02:26:05.399 --> 02:26:08.680
<v Speaker 6>of Brandon suffering some kind of nervous or mental breakdown

2512
02:26:08.959 --> 02:26:11.719
<v Speaker 6>also don't hold much water, as his parents say he

2513
02:26:11.799 --> 02:26:14.239
<v Speaker 6>was loocid while on the phone with him, and also

2514
02:26:14.319 --> 02:26:16.879
<v Speaker 6>that he had no history of any kind of mental illness.

2515
02:26:17.719 --> 02:26:20.120
<v Speaker 6>The initial theory that he had drowned and the theory

2516
02:26:20.120 --> 02:26:22.360
<v Speaker 6>that followed stating that he may have made it back

2517
02:26:22.399 --> 02:26:25.040
<v Speaker 6>out of the water and then died of hypothermia has

2518
02:26:25.079 --> 02:26:29.079
<v Speaker 6>been highly criticized as well. His phone was working for

2519
02:26:29.159 --> 02:26:31.840
<v Speaker 6>quite a while after the call with his father disconnected.

2520
02:26:32.719 --> 02:26:35.200
<v Speaker 6>It's been said that if the phone had entered the water,

2521
02:26:35.600 --> 02:26:38.239
<v Speaker 6>which it presumably would have since Brian was holding it

2522
02:26:38.280 --> 02:26:40.639
<v Speaker 6>when this theory states he went into the water, it

2523
02:26:40.680 --> 02:26:43.879
<v Speaker 6>would have immediately started going to boyshmail right away, as

2524
02:26:43.920 --> 02:26:48.000
<v Speaker 6>it wasn't waterproof and would have been immediately broken. Sure,

2525
02:26:48.200 --> 02:26:50.120
<v Speaker 6>some people count of that by saying that the phone

2526
02:26:50.159 --> 02:26:52.639
<v Speaker 6>could have fallen onto the ground when Brandon slipped into

2527
02:26:52.639 --> 02:26:55.200
<v Speaker 6>the water. But if that was the case, then why

2528
02:26:55.280 --> 02:26:59.000
<v Speaker 6>was the phone never found? Remember, there were extensive searches

2529
02:26:59.040 --> 02:27:01.520
<v Speaker 6>in and around all bodies of water in a large

2530
02:27:01.559 --> 02:27:04.799
<v Speaker 6>area surrounding where Brandon's car was found and where he

2531
02:27:04.920 --> 02:27:08.680
<v Speaker 6>alleged he was the night he went missing, so it's

2532
02:27:08.719 --> 02:27:10.760
<v Speaker 6>safe to assume here that the phone would have been

2533
02:27:10.799 --> 02:27:14.600
<v Speaker 6>found at some point. It simply wasn't. All of the

2534
02:27:14.600 --> 02:27:17.399
<v Speaker 6>abandoned buildings in the area were also searched, and no

2535
02:27:17.559 --> 02:27:20.479
<v Speaker 6>human remains and none of Brandon's personal facts were found

2536
02:27:20.479 --> 02:27:24.040
<v Speaker 6>in any of them. This discredits the theory that Brandon

2537
02:27:24.120 --> 02:27:26.360
<v Speaker 6>might have sought refuge and shelter in one of them

2538
02:27:26.399 --> 02:27:30.760
<v Speaker 6>and died some other way while inside. Yet another theory

2539
02:27:30.920 --> 02:27:32.920
<v Speaker 6>is that perhaps Brandon was involved in a hit and

2540
02:27:33.000 --> 02:27:36.319
<v Speaker 6>run or otherwise abducted, and that his remains were disposed

2541
02:27:36.319 --> 02:27:40.159
<v Speaker 6>of by the perpetrators. However, there's no evidence at all

2542
02:27:40.239 --> 02:27:42.680
<v Speaker 6>to prove this theory or that foul play was involved

2543
02:27:42.719 --> 02:27:47.040
<v Speaker 6>in any way in Brandon's case. Brandon's parents believed their

2544
02:27:47.040 --> 02:27:50.200
<v Speaker 6>son's disappearance might have been solved had police immediately started

2545
02:27:50.200 --> 02:27:52.719
<v Speaker 6>investigating instead of telling them to wait it out for

2546
02:27:52.799 --> 02:27:56.040
<v Speaker 6>a while. There's no law that says there needs to

2547
02:27:56.040 --> 02:27:57.959
<v Speaker 6>be a waiting period for someone to be able to

2548
02:27:57.959 --> 02:28:02.920
<v Speaker 6>be reported as missing. However, unofficially, of course, priority is

2549
02:28:03.000 --> 02:28:05.520
<v Speaker 6>usually given to cases where a foul play is obvious,

2550
02:28:05.680 --> 02:28:08.719
<v Speaker 6>where people are mentally or physically impaired, and when younger

2551
02:28:08.799 --> 02:28:12.239
<v Speaker 6>children are involved. A missing eighteen year old who disappeared

2552
02:28:12.280 --> 02:28:14.920
<v Speaker 6>after a night out drinking with some friends just didn't

2553
02:28:14.920 --> 02:28:17.719
<v Speaker 6>seem too important to the police until hours after the fact,

2554
02:28:18.000 --> 02:28:21.680
<v Speaker 6>and so much precious time had been wasted. Annada and

2555
02:28:21.719 --> 02:28:24.280
<v Speaker 6>Brian Swanson proposed in law be written up in their

2556
02:28:24.280 --> 02:28:29.360
<v Speaker 6>son's name, Brandon's Law, which would quote require law enforcement

2557
02:28:29.440 --> 02:28:32.920
<v Speaker 6>to take a missing person's report without delay after notification

2558
02:28:33.000 --> 02:28:36.719
<v Speaker 6>of someone missing under dangerous circumstances, no matter the missing

2559
02:28:36.799 --> 02:28:41.280
<v Speaker 6>person's age, immediately conduct a preliminary investigation to determine if

2560
02:28:41.319 --> 02:28:44.280
<v Speaker 6>the person is missing and whether the person is in danger,

2561
02:28:44.799 --> 02:28:48.639
<v Speaker 6>and promptly notify all other law enforcement agencies of the situation.

2562
02:28:50.559 --> 02:28:54.159
<v Speaker 6>Brandon's Law, which was sponsored by former House Minority Leader

2563
02:28:54.280 --> 02:28:58.079
<v Speaker 6>Marty Seifert and Senator Dennis Frederickson, was signed into law

2564
02:28:58.079 --> 02:29:01.799
<v Speaker 6>by Minnesota's then Governor Tim Any on May seventh, two

2565
02:29:01.840 --> 02:29:04.799
<v Speaker 6>thousand and nine. The law officially went into effect on

2566
02:29:04.920 --> 02:29:09.440
<v Speaker 6>July first, two thousand and nine. This still leaves one

2567
02:29:09.559 --> 02:29:14.360
<v Speaker 6>very big question, though, what happened to Brandon Swanson. How

2568
02:29:14.399 --> 02:29:16.639
<v Speaker 6>could he have been so off about where he was

2569
02:29:16.719 --> 02:29:18.680
<v Speaker 6>when he was telling his parents he was near Lynn

2570
02:29:19.000 --> 02:29:21.200
<v Speaker 6>and they were flashing their lights at each other but

2571
02:29:21.360 --> 02:29:24.280
<v Speaker 6>not seeing one another. What led him to yell the

2572
02:29:24.319 --> 02:29:27.559
<v Speaker 6>expletive into the phone and hang up? Why wasn't his

2573
02:29:27.680 --> 02:29:31.120
<v Speaker 6>phone or any of his other belongings ever found. There

2574
02:29:31.159 --> 02:29:33.680
<v Speaker 6>has literally been no trace of him since the last

2575
02:29:33.719 --> 02:29:36.239
<v Speaker 6>time he was heard shouting into the phone that faithful night.

2576
02:29:37.159 --> 02:29:39.799
<v Speaker 6>These are all questions we may never know the answers to,

2577
02:29:40.520 --> 02:29:43.000
<v Speaker 6>but that doesn't ever mean we should stop asking the

2578
02:29:43.040 --> 02:29:47.319
<v Speaker 6>hard questions. As always, our hearts, prayers, and thoughts go

2579
02:29:47.399 --> 02:29:49.799
<v Speaker 6>out to the loved ones of not only Brandon Swanson,

2580
02:29:50.319 --> 02:29:53.079
<v Speaker 6>but the countless others who similarly vanished off the face

2581
02:29:53.120 --> 02:29:58.040
<v Speaker 6>of this earth without a trace. Well, folks, there you

2582
02:29:58.079 --> 02:30:00.840
<v Speaker 6>have it. What do you think of this on new disappearance?

2583
02:30:02.239 --> 02:30:04.760
<v Speaker 6>I look forward to your comments, but please keep it

2584
02:30:04.799 --> 02:30:09.159
<v Speaker 6>friendly in your space. Meanwhile, be good to yourselves and

2585
02:30:09.239 --> 02:30:11.600
<v Speaker 6>each other. I'll see you just a little farther on

2586
02:30:11.680 --> 02:30:15.120
<v Speaker 6>down the trail. I'm Steve Stockton, and I'll talk to

2587
02:30:15.120 --> 02:30:15.760
<v Speaker 6>you next time.

2588
02:30:48.520 --> 02:30:50.280
<v Speaker 13>I just r soft art coming, my resident.

2589
02:30:50.399 --> 02:30:51.959
<v Speaker 6>I just came up with series two rounds.

2590
02:30:52.280 --> 02:30:52.719
<v Speaker 13>Be a posit.

2591
02:30:52.920 --> 02:30:55.079
<v Speaker 9>The smoke and smoked and I can't get answer to

2592
02:30:55.120 --> 02:30:55.440
<v Speaker 9>the door.

2593
02:30:55.680 --> 02:31:01.079
<v Speaker 6>Stay outside and send forth Listen d Inch case of

2594
02:31:01.239 --> 02:31:05.959
<v Speaker 6>Jessica Boynton. At the time of this incident, Jessica Boynton

2595
02:31:06.120 --> 02:31:08.479
<v Speaker 6>was nineteen years old and living with her husband, matt

2596
02:31:08.879 --> 02:31:12.159
<v Speaker 6>and their two small children, Tolland and Tyler, in the

2597
02:31:12.239 --> 02:31:15.879
<v Speaker 6>town of Griffin, Georgia. Jessica and matt were high school

2598
02:31:15.879 --> 02:31:19.680
<v Speaker 6>sweethearts who met in twenty twelve, almost immediately after the

2599
02:31:19.760 --> 02:31:22.680
<v Speaker 6>birth of their first son, Tlan. The couple married on

2600
02:31:22.799 --> 02:31:27.440
<v Speaker 6>October twenty fourth, twenty fifteen, when Tolland was about a

2601
02:31:27.520 --> 02:31:30.200
<v Speaker 6>year and a half old. The family welcomed another baby boy,

2602
02:31:30.319 --> 02:31:35.079
<v Speaker 6>who they named Tyler. Not long after this, Matthew became

2603
02:31:35.120 --> 02:31:37.600
<v Speaker 6>a Griffin police officer, and the couple settled into a

2604
02:31:37.680 --> 02:31:40.760
<v Speaker 6>new three bedroom apartment in a complex where Jessica quickly

2605
02:31:40.799 --> 02:31:44.399
<v Speaker 6>made friends with many of their neighbors. Although most of

2606
02:31:44.440 --> 02:31:46.479
<v Speaker 6>the couple's family and friends would go on to say

2607
02:31:46.559 --> 02:31:49.760
<v Speaker 6>they thought the pair had an ideal relationship, most of

2608
02:31:49.799 --> 02:31:52.000
<v Speaker 6>the neighbors who shared walls with the couple, and some

2609
02:31:52.120 --> 02:31:54.520
<v Speaker 6>who had gotten to know Jessica fairly well, told a

2610
02:31:54.559 --> 02:31:59.120
<v Speaker 6>different story. According to Jessica's close friend, who also happened

2611
02:31:59.120 --> 02:32:01.120
<v Speaker 6>to be the woman who lived below them, the couple

2612
02:32:01.239 --> 02:32:04.760
<v Speaker 6>fought all the time. This woman would later tell police

2613
02:32:04.840 --> 02:32:07.639
<v Speaker 6>that Jessica kept a secret diary which she hid in

2614
02:32:07.680 --> 02:32:11.479
<v Speaker 6>her closet, that documented all of Matthew's transgressions, such as

2615
02:32:11.559 --> 02:32:13.680
<v Speaker 6>the affair he was having with a dispatcher for the

2616
02:32:13.719 --> 02:32:16.600
<v Speaker 6>Spaulding County Police, and also how he would take the

2617
02:32:16.639 --> 02:32:19.760
<v Speaker 6>two children and disappear for days and sometimes weeks at

2618
02:32:19.799 --> 02:32:22.440
<v Speaker 6>a time and not answer or return any of Jessica's

2619
02:32:22.479 --> 02:32:26.600
<v Speaker 6>calls or text messages. According to those closest to her,

2620
02:32:26.840 --> 02:32:29.079
<v Speaker 6>Jessica was relieved to have finally been able to prove

2621
02:32:29.159 --> 02:32:31.479
<v Speaker 6>matt was having an affair because now she felt she

2622
02:32:31.520 --> 02:32:34.200
<v Speaker 6>could file for divorce and give full physical custody of

2623
02:32:34.239 --> 02:32:38.159
<v Speaker 6>the children. Matthew actually agreed with Jessica that they should

2624
02:32:38.200 --> 02:32:40.559
<v Speaker 6>divorce and both move on with their lives, and while

2625
02:32:40.600 --> 02:32:43.520
<v Speaker 6>they waited to start the divorce proceedings, the couple remained

2626
02:32:43.559 --> 02:32:47.479
<v Speaker 6>living together in the three bedroom apartment. Things were very

2627
02:32:47.520 --> 02:32:51.840
<v Speaker 6>amicable in the beginning. However, this didn't last long. The

2628
02:32:51.879 --> 02:32:54.760
<v Speaker 6>whole process of going through a separation while still living

2629
02:32:54.840 --> 02:32:56.799
<v Speaker 6>with the other person and trying to copare it while

2630
02:32:56.879 --> 02:32:59.719
<v Speaker 6>under the same roof caused tremendous strain on the family

2631
02:33:00.120 --> 02:33:04.200
<v Speaker 6>and things soon took a very dark turn. While Jessica

2632
02:33:04.280 --> 02:33:07.559
<v Speaker 6>continued secretly documenting everything in her notebook she had hidden

2633
02:33:07.600 --> 02:33:10.799
<v Speaker 6>in the closet of the master bedroom, Matthew began complaining

2634
02:33:10.840 --> 02:33:13.719
<v Speaker 6>to his friend's family and even co workers that Jessica

2635
02:33:13.799 --> 02:33:17.000
<v Speaker 6>had become physically violent towards him. He told him that

2636
02:33:17.079 --> 02:33:19.000
<v Speaker 6>she would poke him in the chest and slap him,

2637
02:33:19.079 --> 02:33:20.879
<v Speaker 6>and that he didn't want to live under the same

2638
02:33:21.000 --> 02:33:24.760
<v Speaker 6>roof with her anymore. With the future of herself and

2639
02:33:24.840 --> 02:33:27.559
<v Speaker 6>her two sons in mind, Jessica went and got herself

2640
02:33:27.600 --> 02:33:30.719
<v Speaker 6>a job at a doctor's office. Her official job title

2641
02:33:30.799 --> 02:33:32.879
<v Speaker 6>is unknown, as she never made it to her first

2642
02:33:32.959 --> 02:33:36.760
<v Speaker 6>day of work on April fifteenth, twenty sixteen. Just the

2643
02:33:36.840 --> 02:33:40.360
<v Speaker 6>day before, on April fourteenth, twenty sixteen, Jessica and Matthew

2644
02:33:40.440 --> 02:33:43.360
<v Speaker 6>had a huge argument. Here's a timeline of events for

2645
02:33:43.440 --> 02:33:45.360
<v Speaker 6>that night and the early morning hours of the next

2646
02:33:45.440 --> 02:33:48.680
<v Speaker 6>day leading up to and immediately after the incident in question.

2647
02:33:50.520 --> 02:33:53.680
<v Speaker 6>At around nine pm on April fifteenth, Matthew called his

2648
02:33:53.799 --> 02:33:56.040
<v Speaker 6>lieutenant on a personal phone call and told him that

2649
02:33:56.200 --> 02:33:59.559
<v Speaker 6>Chessca was once again physically abusing him by poking him

2650
02:33:59.559 --> 02:34:02.200
<v Speaker 6>in the chest and slapping him about his body and face.

2651
02:34:02.920 --> 02:34:05.680
<v Speaker 6>While Matthew was on the phone with a superior, Jessica

2652
02:34:05.760 --> 02:34:08.319
<v Speaker 6>brought her kids over to her downstairs neighbors and now

2653
02:34:08.479 --> 02:34:12.639
<v Speaker 6>close friend's house. According to this neighbor, Jessica was extremely

2654
02:34:12.760 --> 02:34:15.000
<v Speaker 6>upset and was just trying to get some space between

2655
02:34:15.040 --> 02:34:18.760
<v Speaker 6>her and Matthew at this time. After being there just

2656
02:34:18.799 --> 02:34:21.760
<v Speaker 6>a few minutes, Matthew began to text Jessica and asked

2657
02:34:21.760 --> 02:34:23.760
<v Speaker 6>if she and the boys would come to Walmart with him,

2658
02:34:23.760 --> 02:34:26.520
<v Speaker 6>as the youngest child needed formula and Matthew wasn't sure

2659
02:34:26.600 --> 02:34:31.200
<v Speaker 6>which kind of buye. After receiving multiple texts from Matthew

2660
02:34:31.280 --> 02:34:34.399
<v Speaker 6>in just a few short minutes, Jessica reluctantly agreed to

2661
02:34:34.440 --> 02:34:36.559
<v Speaker 6>go to the Walmart with him to pick up the formula.

2662
02:34:38.319 --> 02:34:40.879
<v Speaker 6>Before Jessica left, though, she told her neighbor that when

2663
02:34:40.959 --> 02:34:43.079
<v Speaker 6>they returned from Walmart, she and the boys would be

2664
02:34:43.120 --> 02:34:46.280
<v Speaker 6>coming back to spend the night. Jessica was supposed to

2665
02:34:46.319 --> 02:34:48.639
<v Speaker 6>start her new job early the next morning and was

2666
02:34:48.680 --> 02:34:50.680
<v Speaker 6>afraid to be up all night upset and arguing with

2667
02:34:50.760 --> 02:34:54.879
<v Speaker 6>their soon to be ex husband. At ten point fifteen pm,

2668
02:34:55.120 --> 02:34:58.280
<v Speaker 6>surveillance cameras at the Walmart show the family arriving together

2669
02:34:58.399 --> 02:35:02.520
<v Speaker 6>and walking into the store. Video footage from the store

2670
02:35:02.639 --> 02:35:05.040
<v Speaker 6>also shows the couple having some kind of argument in

2671
02:35:05.079 --> 02:35:08.120
<v Speaker 6>the baby formula aisle, which led to Jessica's storming out

2672
02:35:08.120 --> 02:35:12.879
<v Speaker 6>at around ten thirty pm, but since there is no audio,

2673
02:35:13.159 --> 02:35:16.680
<v Speaker 6>we are unsure what the argument was all about. While

2674
02:35:16.760 --> 02:35:19.200
<v Speaker 6>Jessica was storming out of the store, Matthew was making

2675
02:35:19.239 --> 02:35:21.079
<v Speaker 6>a phone call to one of his co workers and

2676
02:35:21.159 --> 02:35:23.559
<v Speaker 6>informing them that Jessica had stormed out and was refusing

2677
02:35:23.639 --> 02:35:25.559
<v Speaker 6>to go home in the same vehicle as he and

2678
02:35:25.639 --> 02:35:30.719
<v Speaker 6>the children. About ten minutes later, however, Jessica does re

2679
02:35:30.840 --> 02:35:32.879
<v Speaker 6>enter the store, and the couple and their two children

2680
02:35:32.959 --> 02:35:35.760
<v Speaker 6>are all seen leaving the store together in the family's vehicle.

2681
02:35:37.399 --> 02:35:39.719
<v Speaker 6>They arrived home a couple of minutes before eleven PM,

2682
02:35:39.879 --> 02:35:42.079
<v Speaker 6>with a trip taking about forty five minutes to an

2683
02:35:42.120 --> 02:35:46.440
<v Speaker 6>hour in total. According to the reports from that night,

2684
02:35:46.719 --> 02:35:50.120
<v Speaker 6>at around ten fifty three PM, while Jessica's supposedly inside

2685
02:35:50.120 --> 02:35:52.399
<v Speaker 6>her walking closet trying to find the right outfit to

2686
02:35:52.479 --> 02:35:54.040
<v Speaker 6>wear to a first date or a new job. The

2687
02:35:54.120 --> 02:35:57.719
<v Speaker 6>next morning, an officer responded to a non emergency call

2688
02:35:57.799 --> 02:36:01.600
<v Speaker 6>at the Boynton residence. Apparently Matthew had called the police

2689
02:36:01.639 --> 02:36:03.719
<v Speaker 6>and reported that Jessica was poking him in the chest

2690
02:36:03.799 --> 02:36:08.479
<v Speaker 6>and physically assaulting him again. Responding officer's name was Trammel,

2691
02:36:08.600 --> 02:36:11.360
<v Speaker 6>and his report from that night contains what Matthew had

2692
02:36:11.399 --> 02:36:15.440
<v Speaker 6>said happened up until that point. According to Matthew, right

2693
02:36:15.479 --> 02:36:17.879
<v Speaker 6>before the Walmart trip, he was on his cell phone

2694
02:36:17.959 --> 02:36:20.760
<v Speaker 6>when Jessica stormed in and grabbed his phone. She was

2695
02:36:20.799 --> 02:36:24.639
<v Speaker 6>accusing him of having an affair. Jessica started slapping and

2696
02:36:24.680 --> 02:36:27.200
<v Speaker 6>poking Matthew in the chest while insisting he admit to

2697
02:36:27.239 --> 02:36:31.360
<v Speaker 6>the affair if he wanted his phone back. Jessica refused

2698
02:36:31.360 --> 02:36:33.399
<v Speaker 6>to give the phone back until he admitted to the affair,

2699
02:36:33.520 --> 02:36:35.879
<v Speaker 6>and so he did, with Jessica storming out of the

2700
02:36:35.959 --> 02:36:39.479
<v Speaker 6>house at that point and going to the neighbors. The

2701
02:36:39.559 --> 02:36:42.360
<v Speaker 6>second incident Matthew reported that night that happened was at

2702
02:36:42.399 --> 02:36:46.000
<v Speaker 6>the Walmart. He told officer Trammel that while in the store,

2703
02:36:46.079 --> 02:36:48.479
<v Speaker 6>he had received a text message, which once again made

2704
02:36:48.559 --> 02:36:50.840
<v Speaker 6>Jessica flying to her rage and storm out of the store,

2705
02:36:51.079 --> 02:36:54.680
<v Speaker 6>refusing to leave with him and their two sons. Matthew

2706
02:36:54.719 --> 02:36:57.239
<v Speaker 6>also reported that he didn't know how Jessica had gotten

2707
02:36:57.280 --> 02:36:59.559
<v Speaker 6>home because she had never come back in after storming

2708
02:36:59.559 --> 02:37:02.000
<v Speaker 6>out of the world, leaving him no choice but to

2709
02:37:02.040 --> 02:37:04.520
<v Speaker 6>pay for the formula and take the children home. While

2710
02:37:04.600 --> 02:37:09.639
<v Speaker 6>leaving her there, Officer Trammel took Matthew's report and left,

2711
02:37:09.840 --> 02:37:12.079
<v Speaker 6>never entering the house or attempting to speak with Jessica

2712
02:37:12.120 --> 02:37:16.079
<v Speaker 6>at all. Now you will note that this information is

2713
02:37:16.159 --> 02:37:21.559
<v Speaker 6>contrary to what the Walmart surveillance footage shows. At twelve

2714
02:37:21.680 --> 02:37:25.120
<v Speaker 6>fifty am the following morning, Matthew began testing his best

2715
02:37:25.159 --> 02:37:29.959
<v Speaker 6>friend and fellow officer, Josh Guthrie. The two men decided

2716
02:37:30.000 --> 02:37:31.520
<v Speaker 6>to go for some food and to talk at the

2717
02:37:31.600 --> 02:37:34.280
<v Speaker 6>nearby waffle house, just four miles away from the boy

2718
02:37:34.399 --> 02:37:37.920
<v Speaker 6>in residence. According to Matthew, right before he left to

2719
02:37:37.920 --> 02:37:40.680
<v Speaker 6>meet Guthrie, Jessica told him to call an ambulance before

2720
02:37:40.680 --> 02:37:43.520
<v Speaker 6>he left. When he repeated last why she would need

2721
02:37:43.559 --> 02:37:46.799
<v Speaker 6>an ambulance, he claims, Jessica refused to answer, eventually just

2722
02:37:46.879 --> 02:37:50.440
<v Speaker 6>slamming the front door in his face. According to cell

2723
02:37:50.440 --> 02:37:54.280
<v Speaker 6>phone records, throughout this entire night, Matthew was texting his mistress.

2724
02:37:55.000 --> 02:37:57.719
<v Speaker 6>In fact, they showed he had texted his mistress sixty

2725
02:37:57.760 --> 02:38:01.319
<v Speaker 6>eight times throughout the course of that night. At twelve

2726
02:38:01.399 --> 02:38:04.479
<v Speaker 6>fifty four am, Matthew's cell phone received a text message

2727
02:38:04.520 --> 02:38:08.440
<v Speaker 6>from Jessica's phone stating, I can't do this anymore. Take

2728
02:38:08.520 --> 02:38:11.000
<v Speaker 6>care of Toland and Tyler. Please tell them I love

2729
02:38:11.079 --> 02:38:14.760
<v Speaker 6>them every day. I've been suffering for a while now

2730
02:38:14.920 --> 02:38:17.840
<v Speaker 6>and no one has noticed here. Lately, I have not

2731
02:38:17.959 --> 02:38:20.319
<v Speaker 6>been able to recognize the person I see in the mirror.

2732
02:38:21.000 --> 02:38:25.079
<v Speaker 6>This is not the first time I've had thoughts. I

2733
02:38:25.200 --> 02:38:29.040
<v Speaker 6>love you and the boys. Instead of responding to Jessica,

2734
02:38:29.239 --> 02:38:32.079
<v Speaker 6>Matthew first sends a text to his ministress, saying, haha,

2735
02:38:32.280 --> 02:38:36.639
<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, I didn't think about that. At twelve fifty

2736
02:38:36.719 --> 02:38:40.559
<v Speaker 6>five am, Matthew dials nine to one one and requests ems.

2737
02:38:41.280 --> 02:38:43.280
<v Speaker 6>He tells the dispatcher that he is worried about his

2738
02:38:43.399 --> 02:38:45.440
<v Speaker 6>wife and a text he'd received from her, and that

2739
02:38:45.520 --> 02:38:47.719
<v Speaker 6>he is driving home at ninety miles an hour. While

2740
02:38:47.760 --> 02:38:49.520
<v Speaker 6>on the phone with him, and says he will be

2741
02:38:49.680 --> 02:38:52.959
<v Speaker 6>home in about two minutes. He explains that his wife

2742
02:38:53.040 --> 02:38:56.280
<v Speaker 6>is having thoughts and tells her about the message he

2743
02:38:56.319 --> 02:38:58.959
<v Speaker 6>had received from Jessica's phone just a minute or so before.

2744
02:39:00.159 --> 02:39:02.399
<v Speaker 6>He also explains that Jessica's alone in the house with

2745
02:39:02.479 --> 02:39:04.760
<v Speaker 6>their two small children and he is rushing home just

2746
02:39:04.840 --> 02:39:06.879
<v Speaker 6>to make sure nothing is going to happen to them.

2747
02:39:07.559 --> 02:39:10.040
<v Speaker 6>The dispatcher asked if there are any weapons in the home,

2748
02:39:10.079 --> 02:39:12.239
<v Speaker 6>and Matthew tells her that his service weapon is the

2749
02:39:12.319 --> 02:39:12.879
<v Speaker 6>only one.

2750
02:39:14.280 --> 02:39:17.440
<v Speaker 13>Can you please dispatch your unit out in my location?

2751
02:39:17.840 --> 02:39:21.639
<v Speaker 13>Form a reference to my wife. I left the location.

2752
02:39:22.079 --> 02:39:24.600
<v Speaker 13>I'm backing around on Carver Road now. I'll be back

2753
02:39:24.680 --> 02:39:27.760
<v Speaker 13>there in about two minutes. She's having faults. My kids

2754
02:39:27.799 --> 02:39:29.799
<v Speaker 13>are at home with her, so I'm trying to hurry

2755
02:39:29.879 --> 02:39:31.840
<v Speaker 13>up and get back there. I'm driving. She just said

2756
02:39:31.840 --> 02:39:34.319
<v Speaker 13>that she's been experiencing faults right now. She told me

2757
02:39:34.360 --> 02:39:35.920
<v Speaker 13>to take care of the boys, So I'm trying to

2758
02:39:35.959 --> 02:39:37.559
<v Speaker 13>hurry up and get back home, just to make sure

2759
02:39:37.600 --> 02:39:39.840
<v Speaker 13>that nothing's going to happen to them. Any weapon inside

2760
02:39:39.879 --> 02:39:42.639
<v Speaker 13>the house, just my service weapons.

2761
02:39:43.399 --> 02:39:45.559
<v Speaker 6>Around four or five minutes after hanging up with nine

2762
02:39:45.559 --> 02:39:48.440
<v Speaker 6>to one one and arriving back at his residence, Matthew

2763
02:39:48.520 --> 02:39:51.200
<v Speaker 6>again texas mistress and says, give me a few to

2764
02:39:51.280 --> 02:39:57.120
<v Speaker 6>text back. Long story, I'll tell you later. Matthew reported

2765
02:39:57.159 --> 02:39:59.399
<v Speaker 6>that he immediately ran into the home and directly to

2766
02:39:59.440 --> 02:40:02.079
<v Speaker 6>the master where he noticed the closet door was closed

2767
02:40:02.079 --> 02:40:06.120
<v Speaker 6>and locked and Jessica was nowhere in sight. He says

2768
02:40:06.159 --> 02:40:08.239
<v Speaker 6>he started trying to bust the closet door open or

2769
02:40:08.280 --> 02:40:10.879
<v Speaker 6>even kick it down, but with no luck, all the

2770
02:40:10.920 --> 02:40:15.399
<v Speaker 6>while screaming Jessica's name and getting no response. After trying

2771
02:40:15.479 --> 02:40:17.719
<v Speaker 6>and failing at his attempts to get the closet door open,

2772
02:40:18.079 --> 02:40:20.520
<v Speaker 6>Matthew ran into the kitchen and grabbed his police radio

2773
02:40:20.639 --> 02:40:24.040
<v Speaker 6>and called for help. He said, quote, I believe I

2774
02:40:24.159 --> 02:40:26.959
<v Speaker 6>just heard a shot fired coming into my residence. I

2775
02:40:27.159 --> 02:40:30.440
<v Speaker 6>just came up the stairs two rounds, he advised, I

2776
02:40:30.520 --> 02:40:33.639
<v Speaker 6>smelled gun smoke and can't get an answer to the door. Unquote,

2777
02:40:34.399 --> 02:40:36.200
<v Speaker 6>I just heard a soft fire coming to my resident.

2778
02:40:36.319 --> 02:40:37.840
<v Speaker 7>I just came up with series two rounds.

2779
02:40:38.200 --> 02:40:39.159
<v Speaker 12>The avosite a smoke.

2780
02:40:39.200 --> 02:40:42.360
<v Speaker 6>Gunsmoked, and I can't get answer to the door. Stay outside,

2781
02:40:42.559 --> 02:40:47.200
<v Speaker 6>said forth. According to the official reports, multiple officers arrived

2782
02:40:47.280 --> 02:40:49.600
<v Speaker 6>unseen at the boy and home within seconds and began

2783
02:40:49.719 --> 02:40:54.159
<v Speaker 6>making their way inside. The officers reported hearing eight months

2784
02:40:54.200 --> 02:40:56.719
<v Speaker 6>old Tyler crying and seeing two year old Tolans still

2785
02:40:56.799 --> 02:41:00.840
<v Speaker 6>fast asleep. They approached the locked closet door and started

2786
02:41:00.920 --> 02:41:05.639
<v Speaker 6>yelling Jessica's name, but also received no answer. Then they

2787
02:41:05.719 --> 02:41:08.840
<v Speaker 6>kicked the closet door in and found Jessica Boyington lying

2788
02:41:08.920 --> 02:41:11.040
<v Speaker 6>on the floor with her long blonde hair drenched in

2789
02:41:11.159 --> 02:41:15.760
<v Speaker 6>blood to the point that the color was unrecognizable. There

2790
02:41:15.840 --> 02:41:18.319
<v Speaker 6>was a pillow with a large bloodstain on it underneath

2791
02:41:18.360 --> 02:41:22.280
<v Speaker 6>her head. Her husband's forty calval glock service weapon was

2792
02:41:22.399 --> 02:41:26.239
<v Speaker 6>underneath her body. As the officers were going through the

2793
02:41:26.280 --> 02:41:28.959
<v Speaker 6>closet in search of evidence and just examining the scene,

2794
02:41:29.239 --> 02:41:32.319
<v Speaker 6>they were completely shocked to see Jessica moving. She was

2795
02:41:32.360 --> 02:41:37.239
<v Speaker 6>still breathing and alive. Jessica was not only alert enough

2796
02:41:37.280 --> 02:41:39.440
<v Speaker 6>to try and fend off certain officers who were trying

2797
02:41:39.440 --> 02:41:41.040
<v Speaker 6>to help get her out of the closet and onto

2798
02:41:41.079 --> 02:41:43.959
<v Speaker 6>the floor where EMTs could work on her, she also

2799
02:41:44.040 --> 02:41:46.000
<v Speaker 6>had the strength to somehow reach up and grab one

2800
02:41:46.000 --> 02:41:48.559
<v Speaker 6>of the EMT's hands while he felt for her pulse

2801
02:41:50.399 --> 02:41:52.000
<v Speaker 6>what was thought at first to be due to the

2802
02:41:52.040 --> 02:41:55.040
<v Speaker 6>amount of blood in Jessica's hair. Neither the EMT nor

2803
02:41:55.120 --> 02:41:57.159
<v Speaker 6>the police were able to find the gunshot wound in

2804
02:41:57.239 --> 02:42:01.680
<v Speaker 6>Jessica's head ceeded to load her into the ambulance so

2805
02:42:01.799 --> 02:42:04.040
<v Speaker 6>she could be rushed to the nearest hospital for treatment.

2806
02:42:04.959 --> 02:42:09.360
<v Speaker 6>The police found two bullet holes in the closet while

2807
02:42:09.399 --> 02:42:12.280
<v Speaker 6>forensics evaluated the crime scene in the closet. Later on,

2808
02:42:12.719 --> 02:42:14.959
<v Speaker 6>they determined the trajectory of the bullets to be one

2809
02:42:15.040 --> 02:42:17.360
<v Speaker 6>going up with at a fifty four degree angle and

2810
02:42:17.479 --> 02:42:22.520
<v Speaker 6>one going upward at a twenty five degree angle. It

2811
02:42:22.639 --> 02:42:24.879
<v Speaker 6>was also determined that each bullet hole was found in

2812
02:42:24.920 --> 02:42:29.040
<v Speaker 6>a different wall of the closet. At one thirteen am,

2813
02:42:29.280 --> 02:42:33.200
<v Speaker 6>Spalding County Sheriff Wendelbeam was notified of the situation by dispatch.

2814
02:42:34.079 --> 02:42:36.680
<v Speaker 6>Wendell was not only the county sheriff, but also Matthew

2815
02:42:36.719 --> 02:42:41.719
<v Speaker 6>Boyton's grandfather. Immediately after notifying Sheriff Beam, the Georgia Bureau

2816
02:42:41.760 --> 02:42:45.840
<v Speaker 6>of Investigation or GBI, was also notified and asked to

2817
02:42:45.840 --> 02:42:49.440
<v Speaker 6>assist in investigating this case, which was already being called

2818
02:42:49.479 --> 02:42:54.760
<v Speaker 6>an attempt. At around four am, the investigator started canvassing

2819
02:42:54.799 --> 02:42:58.200
<v Speaker 6>the neighborhood for potential witnesses. They started with the other

2820
02:42:58.239 --> 02:43:01.040
<v Speaker 6>people in the apartment complex. Math and Jessica were living

2821
02:43:01.120 --> 02:43:05.040
<v Speaker 6>in the downstairs neighbor and Jessica's close friend informed the

2822
02:43:05.079 --> 02:43:08.479
<v Speaker 6>officers of a few things. Well. The first things either

2823
02:43:08.600 --> 02:43:10.639
<v Speaker 6>she told them was Jessica was not now, nor had

2824
02:43:10.680 --> 02:43:14.120
<v Speaker 6>she ever been. She told him about Matthew's affair with

2825
02:43:14.239 --> 02:43:17.200
<v Speaker 6>his coworker, the dispatcher, and she even told them an

2826
02:43:17.239 --> 02:43:19.760
<v Speaker 6>interesting story about something that had happened just a couple

2827
02:43:19.799 --> 02:43:22.680
<v Speaker 6>of days earlier. The neighbor told the police that a

2828
02:43:22.760 --> 02:43:25.200
<v Speaker 6>couple of nights earlier, Jessica had actually called the police

2829
02:43:25.239 --> 02:43:27.760
<v Speaker 6>on Matthew and reported that he had taken off once

2830
02:43:27.760 --> 02:43:30.079
<v Speaker 6>again with the couple's two young children and was not

2831
02:43:30.239 --> 02:43:34.440
<v Speaker 6>answering calls or returning text messages, and Jessica was extremely worried.

2832
02:43:35.959 --> 02:43:38.440
<v Speaker 6>Matthew ended up returning home before the police could even

2833
02:43:38.479 --> 02:43:41.120
<v Speaker 6>start an investigation, though, as he had been tipped off

2834
02:43:41.159 --> 02:43:44.479
<v Speaker 6>by his mistress dispatcher messaging him through Facebook and warning

2835
02:43:44.559 --> 02:43:47.600
<v Speaker 6>him that he should head home immediately because Jessica had

2836
02:43:47.719 --> 02:43:49.799
<v Speaker 6>just called and reported that he had taken the children

2837
02:43:49.840 --> 02:43:53.440
<v Speaker 6>without her knowledge. She also told the investigators where they

2838
02:43:53.479 --> 02:43:57.159
<v Speaker 6>could find Jessica's secret notebook containing all of Matthew's indiscretions

2839
02:43:57.239 --> 02:43:59.840
<v Speaker 6>and everything going wrong in the relationship that Jessica had

2840
02:43:59.840 --> 02:44:04.879
<v Speaker 6>been documenting for over a year at that point, the

2841
02:44:04.959 --> 02:44:07.440
<v Speaker 6>couple's pending divorce, and the fact that Jessica had an

2842
02:44:07.440 --> 02:44:10.319
<v Speaker 6>appointment to see a divorce lawyer and officially file. The

2843
02:44:10.399 --> 02:44:13.399
<v Speaker 6>following Monday was also called to their attention by several

2844
02:44:13.440 --> 02:44:18.079
<v Speaker 6>other neighbors as well. Some neighbors also reported hearing a

2845
02:44:18.159 --> 02:44:21.079
<v Speaker 6>single gunshot coming from the Boyton residence at around ten

2846
02:44:21.200 --> 02:44:24.360
<v Speaker 6>forty five PM, which would have been almost immediately after

2847
02:44:24.440 --> 02:44:28.280
<v Speaker 6>the couple had returned home from their Walmart trip, right

2848
02:44:28.319 --> 02:44:30.879
<v Speaker 6>about the same time when Officer Trammell was called out

2849
02:44:30.920 --> 02:44:33.879
<v Speaker 6>to interview Matthew about his non emergency call to report

2850
02:44:34.120 --> 02:44:37.040
<v Speaker 6>Jessica physically abusing him and him having to leave her

2851
02:44:37.040 --> 02:44:39.200
<v Speaker 6>at the Walmart as she stormed off and refused to

2852
02:44:39.239 --> 02:44:42.799
<v Speaker 6>return home with the family, which, if you'll remember, was

2853
02:44:42.920 --> 02:44:46.239
<v Speaker 6>not in alignment with the surveillance video from Walmart parking lot,

2854
02:44:46.399 --> 02:44:49.479
<v Speaker 6>which shows the entire family just concluded, all getting into

2855
02:44:49.520 --> 02:44:54.200
<v Speaker 6>the family vehicle and driving off together. Later that same morning,

2856
02:44:54.399 --> 02:44:57.120
<v Speaker 6>Matthew Boyden was interviewed by his coworkers at the griff

2857
02:44:57.239 --> 02:45:01.120
<v Speaker 6>And Police Department in the GBI. Immediately admitted to having

2858
02:45:01.120 --> 02:45:03.639
<v Speaker 6>an affair, but claimed that Jessica had had affairs too.

2859
02:45:04.719 --> 02:45:07.040
<v Speaker 6>Matthew even went so far as to tell investigators that

2860
02:45:07.120 --> 02:45:09.840
<v Speaker 6>the couple's youngest son, Tyler, wasn't his and was in

2861
02:45:09.959 --> 02:45:12.479
<v Speaker 6>fact a product of one of these alleged affairs Jessica

2862
02:45:12.559 --> 02:45:16.399
<v Speaker 6>had had on him. He reiterated that Jessica was physically

2863
02:45:16.440 --> 02:45:18.879
<v Speaker 6>abusive towards him, and admitted that they both were looking

2864
02:45:18.959 --> 02:45:21.600
<v Speaker 6>forward to the divorce being finalized and moving on with

2865
02:45:21.639 --> 02:45:26.239
<v Speaker 6>their lives. The GBI agent interviewing him asked if he

2866
02:45:26.280 --> 02:45:28.399
<v Speaker 6>had changed his clothes from the time he'd called police

2867
02:45:28.440 --> 02:45:30.440
<v Speaker 6>to his house earlier in the nine one one call

2868
02:45:30.760 --> 02:45:33.280
<v Speaker 6>to when he was currently being interviewed, and Matthew claimed

2869
02:45:33.280 --> 02:45:37.440
<v Speaker 6>that he had. This too, is incorrect, as the Walmart

2870
02:45:37.479 --> 02:45:40.159
<v Speaker 6>footage of the couple Matthews seen very clearly wearing a

2871
02:45:40.239 --> 02:45:43.399
<v Speaker 6>gray sweater, and on the police bodycam footage of when

2872
02:45:43.399 --> 02:45:45.840
<v Speaker 6>they first showed up to the house after Matthew's nine

2873
02:45:45.840 --> 02:45:49.040
<v Speaker 6>one one call, he's wearing a bright red sweatshirt or hoodie.

2874
02:45:50.360 --> 02:45:52.920
<v Speaker 6>Matthew informed the investigators that he had been careful not

2875
02:45:53.040 --> 02:45:55.600
<v Speaker 6>to change his clothes or wash his hands, as being

2876
02:45:55.639 --> 02:45:58.280
<v Speaker 6>a police officer himself, he knew his clothes and hands

2877
02:45:58.319 --> 02:46:02.479
<v Speaker 6>would be swabbed for gunshot resident. When the agent informed

2878
02:46:02.520 --> 02:46:04.639
<v Speaker 6>Matthew that they would be taking his clothes from him

2879
02:46:04.639 --> 02:46:07.040
<v Speaker 6>so they could run some tests on them, Matthew responded

2880
02:46:07.079 --> 02:46:10.399
<v Speaker 6>with okay, that's fine. Absolutely, I didn't try to brush

2881
02:46:10.479 --> 02:46:13.520
<v Speaker 6>off anything. I didn't try to wash off anything because

2882
02:46:13.520 --> 02:46:18.280
<v Speaker 6>I knew GSR and all that would be involved. While

2883
02:46:18.319 --> 02:46:20.879
<v Speaker 6>Matthew was being interviewed, police back at the house were

2884
02:46:20.920 --> 02:46:24.639
<v Speaker 6>starting to process the scene. They started with a theory

2885
02:46:24.680 --> 02:46:26.680
<v Speaker 6>that Jessica had entered the closet and locked it, and,

2886
02:46:26.920 --> 02:46:30.520
<v Speaker 6>while facing the back wall, took Matthew's Service revolver and

2887
02:46:30.600 --> 02:46:33.760
<v Speaker 6>fired it upon herself. This was a shot they found

2888
02:46:33.799 --> 02:46:36.040
<v Speaker 6>that entered the top left portion of the closet wall.

2889
02:46:37.159 --> 02:46:40.120
<v Speaker 6>The second shot, however, was much more confusing and hard

2890
02:46:40.200 --> 02:46:43.600
<v Speaker 6>for the investigators to explain. This bullet had entered the

2891
02:46:43.680 --> 02:46:46.280
<v Speaker 6>back wall of the closet, and based on the trajectory,

2892
02:46:46.639 --> 02:46:48.559
<v Speaker 6>the gun would either had to have been fired from

2893
02:46:48.600 --> 02:46:50.520
<v Speaker 6>the floor or very close to it in order for

2894
02:46:50.600 --> 02:46:53.760
<v Speaker 6>the bullet to have ended up where it did. Forensic

2895
02:46:53.840 --> 02:46:57.239
<v Speaker 6>analysis later on also discovered that the first shot Jessica

2896
02:46:57.319 --> 02:47:00.559
<v Speaker 6>had allegedly fired would have injured her enough she would

2897
02:47:00.600 --> 02:47:03.840
<v Speaker 6>have been rendered completely incapable of firing the second shot.

2898
02:47:05.440 --> 02:47:08.719
<v Speaker 6>Investigators also came across the diary Jessica's friends and neighbors

2899
02:47:08.799 --> 02:47:11.840
<v Speaker 6>had told them about. Although it wasn't hidden but in

2900
02:47:11.920 --> 02:47:14.120
<v Speaker 6>plain sight on a shelf on top of some clothes,

2901
02:47:14.520 --> 02:47:16.959
<v Speaker 6>and was missing a few pages that obviously had been

2902
02:47:17.000 --> 02:47:19.959
<v Speaker 6>torn out, but to this day have never been recovered.

2903
02:47:21.520 --> 02:47:24.879
<v Speaker 6>Further testing of Matthew's service weapon did find Jessica's DNA

2904
02:47:25.040 --> 02:47:27.600
<v Speaker 6>on it, but neither her hands nor Matthews were ever

2905
02:47:27.719 --> 02:47:32.840
<v Speaker 6>swaveed for GSR analysis. Although Matthew's clothes were collected the

2906
02:47:32.920 --> 02:47:36.280
<v Speaker 6>morning he did his interview, they also were never analyzed

2907
02:47:36.319 --> 02:47:40.760
<v Speaker 6>for GSR or any other evidence at all. Another interesting

2908
02:47:40.840 --> 02:47:43.920
<v Speaker 6>bit of information forensics came across while examining the crime

2909
02:47:44.000 --> 02:47:46.639
<v Speaker 6>scene was that, aside from the large pool of blood

2910
02:47:46.680 --> 02:47:49.559
<v Speaker 6>on the pillow underneath Jessica's head, there was no other

2911
02:47:49.600 --> 02:47:53.680
<v Speaker 6>blood anywhere in or near the closet, including but not

2912
02:47:53.879 --> 02:47:56.879
<v Speaker 6>limited to, there not being any gunspatter at all that

2913
02:47:57.000 --> 02:48:00.360
<v Speaker 6>investigators would normally see on the walls, ceiling, impossibly floor

2914
02:48:00.600 --> 02:48:02.600
<v Speaker 6>or it would be found ninety nine percent of the

2915
02:48:02.639 --> 02:48:06.799
<v Speaker 6>time in the case of gunshot victims. The police recovered

2916
02:48:06.840 --> 02:48:09.040
<v Speaker 6>one bullet from the scene but couldn't find the second,

2917
02:48:09.159 --> 02:48:11.159
<v Speaker 6>so they just assumed it would be recovered later and

2918
02:48:11.319 --> 02:48:14.159
<v Speaker 6>was probably lodged either inside Jessica's skull or somewhere in

2919
02:48:14.200 --> 02:48:19.319
<v Speaker 6>her body. However, the doctor treating Jessica not only never

2920
02:48:19.399 --> 02:48:21.920
<v Speaker 6>found that bullet, but he concluded that Jessica had been

2921
02:48:21.959 --> 02:48:24.920
<v Speaker 6>the victim of blunt force trauma and wasn't shot at all,

2922
02:48:25.479 --> 02:48:27.479
<v Speaker 6>not in the head or anywhere else for that matter.

2923
02:48:28.520 --> 02:48:31.280
<v Speaker 6>He found no bullets, no bullet fragments, and her head

2924
02:48:31.319 --> 02:48:35.200
<v Speaker 6>wound wasn't consistent with a gunshot wound. This doctor had

2925
02:48:35.239 --> 02:48:38.200
<v Speaker 6>more than thirty years of experience in treating trauma patients,

2926
02:48:38.280 --> 02:48:41.200
<v Speaker 6>including victims of gunshot, and was highly respected in his

2927
02:48:41.280 --> 02:48:48.159
<v Speaker 6>field of expertise. Jessica had a severely fractured skull and

2928
02:48:48.200 --> 02:48:49.719
<v Speaker 6>would have had to have held the gun at a

2929
02:48:49.799 --> 02:48:52.200
<v Speaker 6>near impossible angle in order to even hit herself with

2930
02:48:52.280 --> 02:48:55.520
<v Speaker 6>the butt of it. It simply wasn't possible that Jessica

2931
02:48:55.520 --> 02:48:57.920
<v Speaker 6>had inflicted any of the wounds on herself. According to

2932
02:48:58.040 --> 02:49:02.840
<v Speaker 6>this doctor's report. Other evidence he found that was inconsistent

2933
02:49:02.879 --> 02:49:05.280
<v Speaker 6>with Jessica having fired a gun was her hands being

2934
02:49:05.399 --> 02:49:09.040
<v Speaker 6>in pristine condition, with no powder, birds or blood on

2935
02:49:09.120 --> 02:49:13.600
<v Speaker 6>her hands. Lastly, this doctor pointed out that there was

2936
02:49:13.680 --> 02:49:16.600
<v Speaker 6>no investigation done by the police or the GBI during

2937
02:49:16.639 --> 02:49:21.239
<v Speaker 6>Jessica's hospital stay. In fact, he stated that nobody had

2938
02:49:21.239 --> 02:49:23.680
<v Speaker 6>even reached out to him for his findings and examination

2939
02:49:23.799 --> 02:49:27.440
<v Speaker 6>report until July twentieth, three whole months after the incident

2940
02:49:27.520 --> 02:49:32.520
<v Speaker 6>took place. Due to severe swelling of the brain and trauma,

2941
02:49:32.840 --> 02:49:35.200
<v Speaker 6>Jessica was put in a medically induced coma for three

2942
02:49:35.239 --> 02:49:39.559
<v Speaker 6>weeks after initially arriving at the hospital. Family and friends,

2943
02:49:39.600 --> 02:49:42.079
<v Speaker 6>as well as hospital staff, thought it unlikely she would

2944
02:49:42.079 --> 02:49:44.360
<v Speaker 6>ever pull through due to the severity of her wounds.

2945
02:49:45.799 --> 02:49:49.479
<v Speaker 6>Matthew Boyden never once visited his wife during entire hospital stay.

2946
02:49:50.440 --> 02:49:53.159
<v Speaker 6>In fact, even while she was in her coma, Matthew

2947
02:49:53.239 --> 02:49:55.799
<v Speaker 6>was moving in with his mistress and removing Jessica's things

2948
02:49:55.840 --> 02:49:59.120
<v Speaker 6>without the knowledge of permission of obviously Jessica nor that

2949
02:49:59.280 --> 02:50:01.920
<v Speaker 6>of her family, from the couple's home where the incident

2950
02:50:01.959 --> 02:50:05.840
<v Speaker 6>had taken place. On May tenth, Jessica was out of

2951
02:50:05.879 --> 02:50:08.760
<v Speaker 6>her coma stable and ready to speak to investigators about

2952
02:50:08.799 --> 02:50:11.239
<v Speaker 6>what happened the night before and early morning hours of

2953
02:50:11.280 --> 02:50:15.600
<v Speaker 6>the incident. Due to the severe brain trauma and severity

2954
02:50:15.639 --> 02:50:18.200
<v Speaker 6>of her injuries, though Jessica can't recall most of what

2955
02:50:18.360 --> 02:50:22.120
<v Speaker 6>happened that night, here's the official report she allegedly gave

2956
02:50:22.200 --> 02:50:25.399
<v Speaker 6>to the Griffin police department or to its investigators in

2957
02:50:25.520 --> 02:50:29.559
<v Speaker 6>charge of her case. Jessica reported that she and Matthew

2958
02:50:29.600 --> 02:50:32.319
<v Speaker 6>had been arguing before going to Walmart about an explicit

2959
02:50:32.399 --> 02:50:35.719
<v Speaker 6>photo he had received from his mistress, and continued arguing

2960
02:50:35.840 --> 02:50:38.239
<v Speaker 6>during the drive there and also while in the Walmart,

2961
02:50:38.639 --> 02:50:43.079
<v Speaker 6>which is why she stormed out. She remembers arriving home

2962
02:50:43.159 --> 02:50:46.200
<v Speaker 6>from buying the baby formula, and while Matthew went directly

2963
02:50:46.280 --> 02:50:48.760
<v Speaker 6>to lay down in their bed, she realized she needed

2964
02:50:48.799 --> 02:50:50.559
<v Speaker 6>to go and take care of something at the apartment

2965
02:50:50.639 --> 02:50:55.159
<v Speaker 6>complex's main office. She had to use the fax machine there,

2966
02:50:55.280 --> 02:50:57.719
<v Speaker 6>and it was a pressing issue involving a medical bill

2967
02:50:57.799 --> 02:51:00.360
<v Speaker 6>for one of their children. It couldn't wait until the

2968
02:51:00.440 --> 02:51:03.959
<v Speaker 6>next morning. She asked Matthew to either drive her over

2969
02:51:04.040 --> 02:51:06.159
<v Speaker 6>to the office or watch the children while she drove

2970
02:51:06.200 --> 02:51:08.559
<v Speaker 6>herself so she didn't have to drag them inside with

2971
02:51:08.639 --> 02:51:10.120
<v Speaker 6>her and could just be in and out, as it

2972
02:51:10.200 --> 02:51:12.079
<v Speaker 6>was getting late and she had her first day of

2973
02:51:12.159 --> 02:51:15.840
<v Speaker 6>work early the following morning. Matthew refused to do either

2974
02:51:15.840 --> 02:51:18.520
<v Speaker 6>of these things, and after asking him three or four times,

2975
02:51:18.680 --> 02:51:20.559
<v Speaker 6>she packed the children in the car and went within

2976
02:51:20.639 --> 02:51:24.559
<v Speaker 6>the facts of the paperwork. This only took a few minutes.

2977
02:51:25.479 --> 02:51:28.079
<v Speaker 6>Upon returning to the house, Jessica put the children down

2978
02:51:28.159 --> 02:51:30.920
<v Speaker 6>for bed, and after arguing with Matthew about his deciding

2979
02:51:31.000 --> 02:51:32.639
<v Speaker 6>to go to the waffle house with his friend and

2980
02:51:32.719 --> 02:51:35.360
<v Speaker 6>co worker so late at night, she slammed the door

2981
02:51:35.399 --> 02:51:38.559
<v Speaker 6>in his face and he left. This is when she

2982
02:51:38.719 --> 02:51:41.079
<v Speaker 6>entered the walking closet to choose an outfit for her

2983
02:51:41.120 --> 02:51:45.000
<v Speaker 6>first day of work. This is all Jessica can remember

2984
02:51:45.040 --> 02:51:47.559
<v Speaker 6>from that night, and to this day, she has no

2985
02:51:47.799 --> 02:51:52.799
<v Speaker 6>recollection of anything that happened after this point. Jessica vehemently

2986
02:51:52.879 --> 02:51:55.600
<v Speaker 6>denies the fact that she was ever and also that

2987
02:51:55.719 --> 02:51:58.959
<v Speaker 6>she sent the seemingly text from her phone to Matthew's

2988
02:51:59.000 --> 02:52:02.639
<v Speaker 6>on the night in question. She believes Matthew grabbed her

2989
02:52:02.719 --> 02:52:05.120
<v Speaker 6>unlocked phone and sent the message from her phone to

2990
02:52:05.239 --> 02:52:08.799
<v Speaker 6>his himself. She stated that she was extremely happy to

2991
02:52:08.879 --> 02:52:11.360
<v Speaker 6>be getting the divorce and was actually relieved she had

2992
02:52:11.440 --> 02:52:14.120
<v Speaker 6>proved Matthew was having an affair and she could finally

2993
02:52:14.200 --> 02:52:16.000
<v Speaker 6>prove it because she felt this would help her to

2994
02:52:16.040 --> 02:52:19.159
<v Speaker 6>gain full custody the children in the divorce proceedings, which

2995
02:52:19.239 --> 02:52:22.399
<v Speaker 6>was her main goal. She also claims that she didn't

2996
02:52:22.440 --> 02:52:24.760
<v Speaker 6>even know how to remove Matthew's gun from its holster,

2997
02:52:24.959 --> 02:52:28.040
<v Speaker 6>let alone how to fire it. She knew this because

2998
02:52:28.120 --> 02:52:30.000
<v Speaker 6>one night Matthew had asked her to grab it for

2999
02:52:30.079 --> 02:52:31.879
<v Speaker 6>him so he could clean it, and she struggled to

3000
02:52:31.920 --> 02:52:34.000
<v Speaker 6>get it out and Matthew ended up having to do it.

3001
02:52:34.920 --> 02:52:37.520
<v Speaker 6>This is backed up by multiple family members and friends

3002
02:52:37.559 --> 02:52:39.879
<v Speaker 6>who agreed Jessica had no knowledge of how to handle

3003
02:52:39.920 --> 02:52:43.840
<v Speaker 6>a firearm. After completing what they say was a thorough

3004
02:52:43.920 --> 02:52:47.520
<v Speaker 6>investigation into all the evidence, the GBI and the Griffin

3005
02:52:47.559 --> 02:52:51.280
<v Speaker 6>Police Department ruled this was an attempt a Jessica and

3006
02:52:51.360 --> 02:52:55.200
<v Speaker 6>closed the case. The evidence they point to which say

3007
02:52:55.280 --> 02:52:58.760
<v Speaker 6>brought them to this conclusion was the text sent from

3008
02:52:58.840 --> 02:53:01.959
<v Speaker 6>Jessica's phone to Matthew in Jessica's DNA being founding on

3009
02:53:02.120 --> 02:53:07.879
<v Speaker 6>Matthew's service weapon, which the investigators still claim Jessica used

3010
02:53:07.920 --> 02:53:11.719
<v Speaker 6>to try and herself by shooting herself in the head,

3011
02:53:12.319 --> 02:53:15.319
<v Speaker 6>even despite the doctor's report that Jessica wasn't shot at all.

3012
02:53:17.479 --> 02:53:20.200
<v Speaker 6>Matthew was granted full custody of the couple's two children,

3013
02:53:20.319 --> 02:53:23.639
<v Speaker 6>with Jessica being given only supervised visitation once a week

3014
02:53:23.799 --> 02:53:26.120
<v Speaker 6>due to her officially having tried to end her life

3015
02:53:26.200 --> 02:53:29.399
<v Speaker 6>while loan in the house with the children. The court

3016
02:53:29.479 --> 02:53:32.120
<v Speaker 6>felt she was unstable and forced her into many services

3017
02:53:32.319 --> 02:53:35.680
<v Speaker 6>such as, but not limited to, parenting classes and extensive

3018
02:53:35.799 --> 02:53:41.040
<v Speaker 6>psychiatric evaluations and treatments. Jessica gets visitation of the children

3019
02:53:41.120 --> 02:53:44.479
<v Speaker 6>now with Matthew still having primary care and custody of

3020
02:53:44.559 --> 02:53:49.319
<v Speaker 6>them to this very day. Well there you have the

3021
02:53:49.360 --> 02:53:53.079
<v Speaker 6>strange case of Jessica Boyington. I'd love to know what

3022
02:53:53.239 --> 02:53:58.079
<v Speaker 6>you think about this in the comments, so many unanswered questions.

3023
02:54:00.520 --> 02:54:03.360
<v Speaker 6>In the meanwhile, take care of yourselves and each other.

3024
02:54:04.040 --> 02:54:06.760
<v Speaker 6>I'm Steve Stockton and I'll talk to you next time.

3025
02:54:15.639 --> 02:54:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Whispers in the dark night shows vanished like a phantom's breath.

3026
02:54:23.680 --> 02:54:24.799
<v Speaker 3>Where did they go?

3027
02:54:25.879 --> 02:54:31.280
<v Speaker 4>Only ghost, no mystery, wrapped in cold solid.

3028
02:54:31.120 --> 02:54:42.239
<v Speaker 3>Death, seems dezard It and net ghost called footsteps fade

3029
02:54:42.440 --> 02:54:43.639
<v Speaker 3>into thin air.

3030
02:54:45.319 --> 02:54:51.079
<v Speaker 4>Honey tells that keep on crawling in life just vanished,

3031
02:54:51.200 --> 02:54:55.840
<v Speaker 4>no signs nowhere else go on my collage, chasing some

3032
02:54:56.040 --> 02:55:04.399
<v Speaker 4>morning secret hidden the mist. Sea starts tas keep the

3033
02:55:04.559 --> 02:55:07.799
<v Speaker 4>fire burning, O where true?

3034
02:55:08.159 --> 02:55:14.319
<v Speaker 6>Long a force
