1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Kylie Griswold, and I am thrilled to 2 00:00:03,759 --> 00:00:07,000 welcome you to my brand new podcast. This is the 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,080 Kylie Cast. And here at the Kylie Cast, we're going 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,359 to talk about culture, We're going to talk about religion. 5 00:00:11,439 --> 00:00:13,560 We're going to talk about politics. We're going to talk 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,720 about whatever it is that has me fired up on 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,559 any given week, from marriage to entertainment, to health to 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,960 the broken media. If I care about it, you're going 9 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,679 to hear about it every Thursday. So to make sure 10 00:00:24,719 --> 00:00:26,920 you never miss a new episode, please be sure to 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,600 like and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, or, better yet, 12 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,119 if you're just listening to the show, go check out 13 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,439 the full video version on my personal YouTube channel or 14 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,840 at the Federalist channel on Rumble. I would also love 15 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,840 to hear from you, so you can email the show 16 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,200 at radio at the Federalist dot com. We have so 17 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,280 much to get to today. First of all, is David 18 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,560 French really the guy we want lecturing about toxic masculinity? Also, 19 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,960 it's a day ending and why so the lying media 20 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,520 are lying again and Hollywood has been Lilly Allen has 21 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,960 had so many abortions she can't even remember how Many 22 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:18,400 all that and more on the Kylie Cast. So in 23 00:01:18,439 --> 00:01:20,560 prepping for this show, I was actually gearing up to 24 00:01:20,599 --> 00:01:23,319 talk about something totally different, but I just had to 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,799 pivot when Jordan Peterson decided to release a podcast on 26 00:01:27,079 --> 00:01:31,480 toxic masculinity with David French. And I'm no stranger to 27 00:01:31,519 --> 00:01:33,359 David French, but if you don't know who he is, 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:38,319 he identifies as a lifelong Christian Conservative, and he's also 29 00:01:38,359 --> 00:01:41,640 a proud never Trumper. So he worked at National Review 30 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,239 for a handful of years, and then he hopped over 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,840 and joined Jonah Goldberg at The Dispatch, which is that 32 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,599 never trump rag. And he sometimes writes for The Atlantic, 33 00:01:51,319 --> 00:01:53,359 but now he's a columnist for the New York Times, 34 00:01:53,359 --> 00:01:55,879 which pretty much tells you everything you need to know 35 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,120 about David French's trajectory and the evolution of his worldview. 36 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,599 Oh and of course, David French is a veteran and 37 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,560 an attorney, which is something he mentions every time he 38 00:02:04,599 --> 00:02:07,519 opens his mouth. But the reason that French joined Jordan 39 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:12,840 Peterson's podcast was to talk about toxic masculinity, and specifically 40 00:02:12,879 --> 00:02:16,319 to discuss a New York Times article that French had 41 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,400 written at the end of May about democrats twenty million 42 00:02:20,479 --> 00:02:23,719 dollar Man Problem, which, if you didn't hear about it, 43 00:02:23,759 --> 00:02:27,319 that was a piece about democrats decisions decision basically to 44 00:02:27,319 --> 00:02:31,120 spend a boatload of money to try to lure back 45 00:02:31,199 --> 00:02:33,800 all of the men that they scared away into the 46 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,680 loving arms of the GOP. And part of this effort, 47 00:02:36,719 --> 00:02:39,919 of course, is to try to replicate the Joe Rogan, 48 00:02:40,159 --> 00:02:44,439 Theo vaugh Andrew Schaltz magic that really resonated with men. 49 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,560 This magic, of course, is sometimes referred to as the manosphere. 50 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,199 It's all those podcasts, bros. Personally, I'm very excited about 51 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,840 this Democrat effort because we all know what it looks 52 00:02:54,879 --> 00:02:58,599 like when Democrats try to manufacture a likability or a 53 00:02:58,759 --> 00:03:03,560 trumpiness that their opponents are doing very naturally, very organically. 54 00:03:04,199 --> 00:03:06,719 You've all seen this. I'm sure it's very unnatural. It 55 00:03:06,759 --> 00:03:12,280 looks like Democrats cursing at really weird or inappropriate times, 56 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,199 or Elizabeth Warren awkwardly drinking a beer on camera, or 57 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,319 Tim Walls dancing around a stage in the gayest way 58 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,719 you've ever seen. But anyway, a lot of my thoughts 59 00:03:22,719 --> 00:03:25,400 on the podcast actually don't have that much to do 60 00:03:25,439 --> 00:03:31,879 with masculinity, because the observations on the podcast were honestly 61 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,680 pretty microwaved. Like, if you've listened to Jordan Peterson or 62 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,520 anyone else on the center right talk about disaffected men 63 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,759 or the crisis of masculinity, or deaths of despair or 64 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,919 men lacking purpose, you really don't need to listen to 65 00:03:45,919 --> 00:03:48,000 this interview. There's nothing really new there on that front. 66 00:03:48,159 --> 00:03:50,080 But there are a few parts about the interview that 67 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,719 are definitely worth mentioning, one of which was just an amazing, 68 00:03:53,879 --> 00:04:00,240 amazing moment that basically it perfectly exposed French's conservatism as 69 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,080 the sham that it is. And Peterson he really teed 70 00:04:03,159 --> 00:04:05,840 it up pretty masterfully. He teased up the question with 71 00:04:05,879 --> 00:04:09,159 this little smirk on his face, just knowing full well 72 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,639 what he's doing, and it's just spectacular. Watch this. 73 00:04:12,599 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: You have written for The Atlantic and for the New 74 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:15,759 York Times. 75 00:04:15,919 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: Why do they allow you to write for them? 76 00:04:20,399 --> 00:04:23,199 Speaker 2: Well, you know, they were actually looking for a pro 77 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,399 life person when they were trying to hire a new columnist, 78 00:04:26,519 --> 00:04:30,759 actually looking for somebody who was conservative and somebody who 79 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,160 had you know, I'm also a veteran. I don't believe 80 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,000 there were any columnists who are veterans. I'm also a lawyer. 81 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,319 I don't believe at the time am I hiring, that 82 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,959 there were any other columnists who are lawyers. I'm a 83 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:47,639 constitutional lawyer. But I was very pleasantly surprised, I'll be 84 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,879 honest with you when I got the job offer. It 85 00:04:49,959 --> 00:04:54,879 was definitely not something I was seeking out, but it 86 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,519 came to me and I was very grateful and thankful, 87 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,319 and I've had a really good experience there. 88 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,879 Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, did you catch that? I want 89 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,319 to make sure you know that David French is a 90 00:05:06,399 --> 00:05:09,560 veteran and a lawyer, a constitutional lawyer. So I just 91 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,160 want to make sure you heard that. A veteran and 92 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:17,959 a lawyer. But seriously, no self respecting conservative is pleasantly 93 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:23,319 surprised when the corporate media come knocking. You know, typically 94 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:28,040 they come knocking for a comment request, or they come 95 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,680 knocking because they want you to correct an article with 96 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,439 more context, which is really just their spin and more lies. 97 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,319 But if the media comes knocking to you, David French 98 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,959 with a job offer, if anything, that should be a 99 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,399 wake up call that maybe you're not as conservative as 100 00:05:43,399 --> 00:05:47,040 you think you are. The New York Times is nothing 101 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,680 more at this point than a propaganda machine. It's nothing 102 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,480 more than a public relations arm for the Democrat Party. 103 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:58,120 It's the equivalent of a conservative winning a Pulitzer Prize. No, 104 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,000 you know who gets Pulitzer prizes and cushy gigs at 105 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,639 the New York Times, David French, not conservatives. People who 106 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,360 get banned on Twitter for saying boys and girls are different, 107 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,360 those are probably conservatives. People who are on the New 108 00:06:10,439 --> 00:06:14,839 York Times shortlist for a job offer probably not conservative. 109 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,759 This really isn't that hard for anyone who has spent 110 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,079 any amount of time watching the media. Here's another clip though, 111 00:06:21,079 --> 00:06:24,120 that you really should see from this French Peterson interview 112 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,600 because it's really just perfect in its lack of self awareness. 113 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,279 So here French is talking about masculinity and specifically the 114 00:06:32,319 --> 00:06:35,680 way the media talks about men and masculinity. And here's 115 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:36,519 what he had to say. 116 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,399 Speaker 2: Well, when we talk about this, when we raise this issue, 117 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,879 a lot of people in the commentary and the commentary 118 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:49,439 class and the academic class immediately denigrate a lot of 119 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,759 the evidence about the struggles of young men and boys 120 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:57,040 because they don't see in their milieu. They don't see 121 00:06:57,079 --> 00:07:01,920 men struggling, because it's the big job, giant number of 122 00:07:01,959 --> 00:07:04,720 people who are not in that sort of tip of 123 00:07:04,759 --> 00:07:09,000 the spear, who are really struggling. And because so many 124 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,040 of us live in these bubbles, a lot of people 125 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,199 don't see it at all. 126 00:07:14,439 --> 00:07:15,399 Speaker 1: They don't see it at all. 127 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: And this is something that I think is endemic in 128 00:07:18,759 --> 00:07:23,120 our commentariat, and that is a lot of our commentariat 129 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,680 lives and eats and breathes a very rarefied cultural error, 130 00:07:28,199 --> 00:07:33,319 and they don't have any real world sense of the 131 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,120 way that people are living their lives and the struggles 132 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,120 are facing outside of that. Meliu. 133 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,759 Speaker 1: If you paid me a million dollars, I could not 134 00:07:43,959 --> 00:07:46,639 write a more ironic thing for David French to say. 135 00:07:46,839 --> 00:07:49,360 This is a guy who fancies himself as somewhat of 136 00:07:49,399 --> 00:07:52,160 an expert on masculinity. He talks about it a lot. 137 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,040 You can hear it here. That's why he's invited onto 138 00:07:54,079 --> 00:07:57,079 this podcast. He writes about it a lot, and he 139 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,959 writes about it specifically as it relates to how danger 140 00:08:00,279 --> 00:08:04,720 and icky and horrible Trump's version of masculinity is. But 141 00:08:05,319 --> 00:08:09,000 here he is pontificating about the out of touch commentariat, 142 00:08:09,399 --> 00:08:13,439 and it's like, look in a mirror you are the 143 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:18,000 out of touch commentariat, David French's entire livelihood, And I 144 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,519 mean I don't want to pick on David French, I 145 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,199 mean I am, but he is a stand in for 146 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:24,800 so many other people in the media like him. His 147 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,480 entire livelihood is based on him sitting behind a screen 148 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,240 clacking out cookie cutter, never Trump, bitter clinger columns for 149 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,440 The New York Times about blessings of liberty and toxic 150 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,600 masculinity and his vast personal experience as a lawyer and 151 00:08:40,639 --> 00:08:44,399 a veteran with zero sense of what real Americans are 152 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,360 feeling and facing. And he can appeal to his son 153 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,879 and to his son's friends as if like that gives 154 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,519 him some expertise on this. But he is part of 155 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,600 this out of touch commentariat, which is why he can 156 00:08:55,639 --> 00:08:58,480 say with a straight face that the conservative thing to 157 00:08:58,519 --> 00:09:01,600 do was to vote for Kamala Harris, and why he 158 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,600 can say with a straight face that sending billions of 159 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:09,120 taxpayer dollars to Ukraine is a moral imperative of struggling Americans, 160 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,879 and why COVID vaccine skepticism is actually a spiritual problem, 161 00:09:14,279 --> 00:09:17,919 and why Donald Trump is an existential threat to democracy 162 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,279 and masculinity. I want to pivot. David Markesy is another 163 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,480 guy from the out of touch commentariat at the New 164 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,039 York Times, and he has the same problem. And we 165 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,799 saw this recently in an interview he interrogated Andrew Schultz, 166 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,799 who is a massively popular stand up comedian and part 167 00:09:35,799 --> 00:09:40,960 of the manisphere I mentioned earlier and Markaesy interrogated Andrew 168 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,559 Schultz on his problematic language and beliefs and basically scolded 169 00:09:45,639 --> 00:09:48,879 him for not asking Trump when he interviewed him before 170 00:09:48,879 --> 00:09:51,879 the twenty four election. He scolded him for not asking 171 00:09:51,879 --> 00:09:55,919 Trump the same stupid left wing garbage questions that the 172 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,240 corporate media asked Trump. Any chance they get the thing 173 00:09:59,279 --> 00:10:01,240 is if French and more Casey and the rest of 174 00:10:01,279 --> 00:10:04,559 the commentary class, out of touch commentary class really wants 175 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,039 to understand American men. They need to go touch some grass. 176 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,159 They need to go talk to a millennial who desperately 177 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,559 wants to buy his first home but doesn't think he 178 00:10:13,639 --> 00:10:16,600 ever can because he doesn't make six figures. They need 179 00:10:16,639 --> 00:10:18,679 to go talk to the dad who doesn't want his 180 00:10:18,759 --> 00:10:22,200 little girl seeing the blessing of liberty grown man in 181 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,320 drag gyrating at the local library or the flyover families 182 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,679 who really struggled to buy groceries thanks to bide inflation. 183 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,879 One more quick thing on masculinity. You know, David French 184 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,480 and Jordan Peterson are their right that we shouldn't tell 185 00:10:37,639 --> 00:10:41,399 men they're toxic. Obviously, that strategy has been a horribly 186 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,399 destructive message for men. It's done a lot of bad 187 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,960 things to the culture, which even the New York Times 188 00:10:47,039 --> 00:10:49,399 is starting to realize, which is why they recently ran 189 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,399 a piece called like where are all the good men 190 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,279 come back? You know, it's like it's really ruined even 191 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,600 relations between the sexes. But men also need to hear 192 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,879 more than just there's nothing wrong with you or you 193 00:11:02,919 --> 00:11:05,879 don't have a problem, because there is something wrong with men. 194 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,840 They do have a problem, just like there's something wrong 195 00:11:08,879 --> 00:11:11,120 with women. And just like women have a problem. And 196 00:11:11,159 --> 00:11:13,320 if you're a Christian then you know this. This is 197 00:11:13,399 --> 00:11:17,519 part of our entire worldview, and that's something wrong with men. 198 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,759 And the something wrong with women is an aggression or 199 00:11:20,799 --> 00:11:25,279 competitiveness or strength or any other difference between the sexes. 200 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,000 It is so much deeper than that. And surprise, surprise, 201 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,480 the manosphere actually did a way better job of bringing 202 00:11:32,519 --> 00:11:35,399 real clarity to this point. Back to Andrew Schultz. On 203 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,360 his podcast earlier this summer, he brought on theologian Wes Huff, 204 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:44,519 who offered a really beautiful and a far far better 205 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,960 countercultural message that we should be telling both men and 206 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,200 women take a look, that. 207 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 3: There's no such thing as an innocent person, and that 208 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,320 I deserve hell. Me wes Huff, I deserve hell one 209 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,519 hundred percent of the time. That's the ages of sin 210 00:12:00,639 --> 00:12:03,799 is death, and that's the language of Paul Uses in 211 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:07,879 that I'm like actively working at a job to earn 212 00:12:07,919 --> 00:12:12,559 a wage, and that's sin and death, right. But the 213 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,120 second part of that line is the gift of God 214 00:12:14,159 --> 00:12:17,879 is eternal life through Christ Jesus. So the answer the 215 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:23,240 question is that I think we are both worse than 216 00:12:23,279 --> 00:12:28,360 we realize and have the potential to do much more 217 00:12:28,399 --> 00:12:32,799 good than we realize. What the Bible says, particularly in 218 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,159 that creation story, right, is that you are created with 219 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,799 purpose and meaning and intention, and it is good. You 220 00:12:38,879 --> 00:12:41,480 actually bear the image of God, and there's something about 221 00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:44,360 that as special. So in one sense, you're more of 222 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,200 a piece of shit than you can imagine, but also 223 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:51,200 you're more loved and more capable of amazing things than 224 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,879 you can imagine. And that's the dichotomy of Christianity. 225 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jordan Peterson and David French did get a lot 226 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:02,679 right about masculinity in their podcast All Things Considered, But 227 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,559 Wes Huff just really hit the nail on the head 228 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,879 and really homed in on the most important message that 229 00:13:09,919 --> 00:13:12,080 we can tell both men and women, and that's that 230 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,559 we are all much worse than we realize. We are 231 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,480 all pretty toxic. It's a bad word. It's been politicized, 232 00:13:17,519 --> 00:13:20,120 but we're we're all pretty bad. But through the redemption 233 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:30,440 of Christ, we have more potential than we could ever imagine. 234 00:13:31,879 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 4: Why has the housing market absolutely tanked? The watchdot on 235 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,600 Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. Every day Chris helps 236 00:13:38,639 --> 00:13:41,279 unpack the connection between politics and the economy and how 237 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:43,679 it affects your wallet. When is the right time to 238 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:48,519 buy a house? Market uncertainty is everywhere, including AI tariffs, 239 00:13:48,759 --> 00:13:51,759 is the Fed lowering interest rates? Don't expect the housing 240 00:13:51,759 --> 00:13:54,600 market to recover anytime soon. Whether it's happening in DC 241 00:13:54,759 --> 00:13:57,399 or down on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially. Be informed. 242 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,559 Check out the watchdod on Wall Street podcast with Chris 243 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,559 Markowski on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. 244 00:14:18,639 --> 00:14:21,039 Speaker 1: All right, everybody, now we're going to do some bad news. 245 00:14:21,159 --> 00:14:24,960 And by bad news, of course, I mean that Democrat 246 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,879 media is really good at doing pr for Democrats and 247 00:14:27,919 --> 00:14:31,759 really bad at doing actual news. And I'm super excited 248 00:14:31,759 --> 00:14:34,840 on this inaugural episode to be joined by my very 249 00:14:34,879 --> 00:14:40,600 dear friend and colleague, Elle Pernell. Here's Elle, Welcome to 250 00:14:40,679 --> 00:14:41,120 the show. 251 00:14:41,799 --> 00:14:42,799 Speaker 5: I'm so excited. 252 00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:44,919 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have you. Elle, and I go 253 00:14:45,039 --> 00:14:48,159 way back. She's amazing at so many things at the Federalist. 254 00:14:48,159 --> 00:14:51,840 She's our assignment editor, but she's also the media criticism queen. 255 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:54,080 I want to start by getting your thoughts on something 256 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,879 that journalist Chris Bray has covered a few times this week, 257 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,960 and if you're not following, everyone should. He has an 258 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,480 amazing substack. He's an incredible journalist. His substack is called 259 00:15:06,559 --> 00:15:08,519 tell Me how This Ends, So if you're not following it, 260 00:15:08,559 --> 00:15:12,399 you should. But he is a California native, so his 261 00:15:12,519 --> 00:15:15,919 work particularly on all things related to like Gavin Newsom 262 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,120 being the worst, the LA riots, the LA fires, like 263 00:15:19,159 --> 00:15:22,919 he just he knows the actual scoop and so one 264 00:15:22,919 --> 00:15:26,120 thing that happened this week was in keeping with Trump's 265 00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:30,840 promises to restore law and order, get rid of, you know, 266 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,559 illegal immigration, close the border, all these things. He sent 267 00:15:34,679 --> 00:15:38,120 federal agents in to clear a Los Angeles park known 268 00:15:38,159 --> 00:15:41,480 as MacArthur Park. And I'm not a Californian, but it's 269 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:44,879 my understanding that MacArthur Park is actually really beautiful and 270 00:15:44,919 --> 00:15:47,080 has the potential to be really beautiful. Like back in 271 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,000 the day, it was an actual awesome place, but it 272 00:15:51,039 --> 00:15:54,159 has since become just a complete cesspool of crime. It's 273 00:15:54,679 --> 00:16:00,960 ramping crime, drug abuse, homeless people everywhere, gang activity. People 274 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,759 will like go loot stores and then sell thousands of 275 00:16:03,799 --> 00:16:07,440 dollars worth of stolen merchandise, like at this park. It 276 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,559 sounds like the locals just don't even go anywhere near 277 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,919 the park, like families and normies don't go near it 278 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,840 because it's not it's completely unsafe for any normal person 279 00:16:16,879 --> 00:16:20,480 to be near. And to the point that like businesses 280 00:16:20,519 --> 00:16:23,519 in the area can't even function normally because it's so 281 00:16:23,559 --> 00:16:26,200 out of control. And so I read about one I 282 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,919 think he's a deli owner who's been this deli has 283 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,720 been in operation for eighty some years, and he's threatening 284 00:16:31,759 --> 00:16:34,399 to close because the park has just made his business 285 00:16:34,399 --> 00:16:38,639 completely unsustainable. And so anyway, this is like these facts 286 00:16:38,639 --> 00:16:41,360 are not in dispute. Like everyone knows that this park 287 00:16:41,399 --> 00:16:43,320 has been awful for a very long time, which is 288 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,879 why for a very long time leading up to this 289 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:53,759 raid on MacArthur Park, you saw headlines like this MacArthur 290 00:16:53,879 --> 00:16:58,639 Park LA's most dangerous neighborhood, MacArthur Park grapples with drugs 291 00:16:58,639 --> 00:17:00,559 and crime, the rise and fall of my MacArthur Park, 292 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,480 blah blah blah. Here's some more. MacArthur Park riddled with 293 00:17:04,559 --> 00:17:07,759 drugs and crime, grapples with drugs and crime. I mean, 294 00:17:07,799 --> 00:17:12,799 like everyone knew that this is the norm for MacArthur Park, 295 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:14,559 and so Trump since. 296 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:17,319 Speaker 6: Not just the crime, right, Like locals from there will 297 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:20,400 also tell you that MacArthur Park is specifically where a 298 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,559 lot of people who are here illegally will gather, like 299 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:24,680 to get fake IDs. 300 00:17:24,799 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 5: So it's not just a hub of crime. 301 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 6: It's not just a hub of drugs, but it's also 302 00:17:30,319 --> 00:17:33,440 an illegal immigration hot spot, which is why it makes 303 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,440 perfect sense that Ice did a rd there. 304 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: But sorry, go ahead, yes, no one percent. Yeah, it's 305 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,160 not just people who are like allowed to be here, 306 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,519 but aren't allowed to be doing who aren't allowed to 307 00:17:42,519 --> 00:17:44,319 be doing crime. This is like people who are not 308 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,440 allowed to be here and who are also engaging in 309 00:17:46,519 --> 00:17:50,480 rampant crime and like yeah, uh, pedling fake documents whatever, Okay, 310 00:17:50,519 --> 00:17:54,440 great point. And so after this raid raid, which was 311 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,960 really just like federal law enforcement officers enforcing the law 312 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:03,559 in MacArthur Park, these were the headlines and so you 313 00:18:03,599 --> 00:18:09,240 can see armed agents, heavily armed the mayor Karen Bass, 314 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,480 who's a psychopath. Ell, you can tell us all about 315 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:16,440 Karen Bass. She's calling it outrageous and whatever. My eyes 316 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:17,839 are too bad, I can't read it's on my screen. 317 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,480 But anyway, point being, these headlines are just painting this 318 00:18:20,599 --> 00:18:25,359 as like how could anyone ever think of raiding this 319 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,319 park or doing the show of force in this park? 320 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,240 How like why would the ice agents need to be armed? 321 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,480 L This is just like let's all do kumbai ya 322 00:18:33,599 --> 00:18:35,799 and ask these people to politely leave the park. 323 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 6: And that's literally what these people on the left want. 324 00:18:40,319 --> 00:18:44,319 Speaker 5: Like we saw in twenty twenty people arguing like let's. 325 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,759 Speaker 6: Abolish the police and let's replace them with these unarmed 326 00:18:46,759 --> 00:18:48,799 social workers and that doesn't go well. 327 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,599 Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean they you can't send a social 328 00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:54,880 worker in with I don't know, like. 329 00:18:55,039 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 7: A no weapons to go, like keep these people who 330 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,079 are violent, dangerous, who are on drugs or. 331 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,039 Speaker 5: What have you from harming people. 332 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 6: Like this is not a park where kids are playing 333 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,559 around and having picnics. This is like it's a park 334 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,440 in that it used to be a park, but it's 335 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,240 not what you and I think of when we think 336 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,759 of little park with the playground where right people just 337 00:19:21,839 --> 00:19:22,640 you know coexist. 338 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: Right at this point, park is a complete misnomer, like 339 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,599 it should be the MacArthur's Cesspool is like a way 340 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,799 better name for what's actually going on there. Right, So 341 00:19:31,079 --> 00:19:33,200 it's like I hadn't really thought of it this way. 342 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,319 But basically Democrats, including Karen Bass, which I can put 343 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,839 up a tweet of hers because she's just I mean, 344 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,559 the woman is off her rocker, But they basically want 345 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:45,000 law enforcement if they do anything to like gentle parent 346 00:19:45,079 --> 00:19:49,119 criminals into like maybe sort of doing the right thing 347 00:19:49,799 --> 00:19:52,519 or self deporting or whatever. Here is a tweet from 348 00:19:52,599 --> 00:19:58,680 Karen Bass hugging the children that were cleared from the park. 349 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,000 We will not be afraid, and we will not be divided. 350 00:20:02,039 --> 00:20:04,920 We will stand together. All caps, Like. 351 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,839 Speaker 6: Going back, you mentioned this earlier a little bit, but 352 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,079 like the outrage over the fact. 353 00:20:08,839 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 5: That these agents were armed, like they they have to 354 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,880 be armed. People are trying to kill them. Like I 355 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,039 think we'll talk about this probably in. 356 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 6: A few minutes, but like there's these vigil lantes around 357 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,920 the country who are trying to murder ICE agents for 358 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:23,759 doing their jobs. 359 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 360 00:20:24,279 --> 00:20:26,759 Speaker 6: If I worked for ICE, sure as hack, I would 361 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:29,640 want to be armed, like to protect myself and my 362 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:30,839 fellow agents. 363 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And that's a great segue actually, l to 364 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,759 our next media topic, which is these Antifa terror cells 365 00:20:38,039 --> 00:20:41,559 carrying out attacks on ICE and Customs and Border Protection 366 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,000 and other federal officers who are doing I mean, they're 367 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,640 they're just doing their jobs. They literally have one job 368 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,839 and they're doing that job and they're being not only 369 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,519 attacked for it, literally physically attacked by Antifa terror cells 370 00:20:54,519 --> 00:20:58,839 and other like radical radical democrats, but they are it's 371 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,279 like elected demicrats essentially calling for the blood of these 372 00:21:02,319 --> 00:21:05,119 people like this isn't this isn't a bug. This is 373 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,319 the entire point. And of course the media contributes so 374 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,759 much to this environment of lawlessness and violence. And here's 375 00:21:12,799 --> 00:21:15,400 here's just one example. So one of these attacks was 376 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:20,480 on an ice facility in Texas on the fourth of July. 377 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,359 So this is Independence Day. There should be a great 378 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,880 day of celebration for our country and for you know, 379 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,759 the restoration of law and order. And instead we had 380 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,160 a group of ten ANTIFA members, or at least ten 381 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,680 were arrested. There may have been more than that. I 382 00:21:33,839 --> 00:21:37,799 don't remember that detail. But they ambush with. 383 00:21:37,799 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 6: Attempted murder, and then there was an eleventh that was 384 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,519 charged with obstruction of justice. 385 00:21:41,599 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so eleven people they ambush. They had a 386 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,440 planned ambush of this ice facility in Texas that involved 387 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:55,359 some members like pulling out law enforcement by creating a 388 00:21:55,559 --> 00:21:59,720 diversion like they would. They spread graffiti and were shooting 389 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,440 off works to like get the officers to come out 390 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,720 of the complex. And then others were there with weapons 391 00:22:06,799 --> 00:22:08,640 ready to take out the officers who came out of 392 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,119 the building. And so one officer was shot in the neck. 393 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,599 He's expected to survive, I think, but like that's a 394 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,039 serious injury, like you're talking, you know, maybe less than 395 00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:21,680 an inch from taking this man's life. And this was 396 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,519 the headline from CBS News and of course they were 397 00:22:24,519 --> 00:22:28,359 headlines like this all across the corporate media. Suspects used graffiti, firearms, 398 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,720 body armor, and fourth of July ambush outside in North 399 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,720 Texas ice facility officials saite. No mention here of a 400 00:22:35,759 --> 00:22:39,359 police officer getting shot in the neck, no mention of 401 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,359 the fact that ten people were arrested and charged with 402 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:48,559 attempted murder of law enforcements. It's so bad that, like 403 00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:53,079 you cannot find the biggest detail, the most outrageous, egregious 404 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,240 detail in the headline of the story. That's the entire point. 405 00:22:55,279 --> 00:22:56,880 You should be able to read that and know what happened. 406 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, so it was yesterday, it was whatever 407 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,000 day that like, because it happened on the fourth of July, 408 00:23:04,079 --> 00:23:05,920 and then stuff came out Monday night, and so like 409 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,640 by Tuesday morning, we were like, Okay, where's the media 410 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:09,160 coverage of this? 411 00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:13,839 Speaker 5: And I so I searched on the New York Times website. 412 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,160 I searched the terms ice. 413 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 6: Ambush, and the only story that came there were like 414 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,640 two stories that I don't even know why they came up, 415 00:23:21,839 --> 00:23:25,160 Like by ice it wasn't referring to immigrations and customs enforcement. 416 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,000 The only story that came up remotely about immigration was 417 00:23:29,079 --> 00:23:34,240 one on like the ruthless ambition of Stephen Miller. It 418 00:23:34,279 --> 00:23:36,960 was like, that's not what, like that had nothing to 419 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,559 do with this, that's obviously. So they just didn't and 420 00:23:39,599 --> 00:23:41,440 like I think they did kind of cover it, and 421 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,119 they had maybe one article about what happened, but it 422 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,759 was just the bare details, like they didn't use the 423 00:23:47,759 --> 00:23:51,359 word ambush, and then they like failed to follow up 424 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,119 as more details came out. 425 00:23:53,319 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's even worse when you can contrast 426 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,920 that with the way the media talk about any kind 427 00:24:00,319 --> 00:24:03,079 of a right wing violence or even not right wing violence, 428 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,200 like there were so many people who were involved. 429 00:24:05,799 --> 00:24:07,559 Speaker 5: In the right wing violence that they want you to 430 00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:07,960 believe is. 431 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: Wings yes, yes, exactly. You might have an actual peaceful 432 00:24:12,039 --> 00:24:15,680 protest by right wingers where maybe you have a few 433 00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:19,359 bad faith agitators that somehow get involved or not, and 434 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,279 it's an insurrection and it's you know, it's all of 435 00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:24,039 these other like egregious things that we've never seen, this 436 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,119 unprecedented attack on norms and decency and democracy. And then 437 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,839 on the other side you have elected officials agitating and 438 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,799 like encouraging democrats to be out for blood. And then 439 00:24:36,839 --> 00:24:40,319 you have these attacks and they're not even mentioned. They're 440 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,480 hardly mentioned by the corporate media, and when they're mentioned, 441 00:24:42,519 --> 00:24:44,359 they are downplayed to such a degree that you don't 442 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,079 even know the heinousness of what was committed. 443 00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 6: Well, there's this total lack of curiosity where like maybe 444 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,720 they will string a few words together so that they 445 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,519 can say, we covered it. See here's the proof, But 446 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,640 like the coverage exists for the purpose of downplaying it, 447 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,720 and like the headline that you just showed on the 448 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,680 screen a few minutes ago is a great example of that, 449 00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:08,480 Like they've only covered it insofar as like people are 450 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,599 now less interested in this story because of the headline. 451 00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: Right right, that's exactly right. Let's move on to another. 452 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,200 Really just incredible. It's not even a correction because they 453 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,279 didn't admit that they were wrong about it. But it's 454 00:25:23,319 --> 00:25:29,440 just classic New York Times awful, awful propaganda coverage of something. 455 00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:34,400 And then after the narrative doesn't matter anymore. Now we 456 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,440 can admit that maybe, just maybe some of the facts 457 00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:39,720 Republicans were right about from the start, and so you 458 00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:43,359 might remember this story or yeah, this story from before 459 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,960 the twenty twenty four election when there were reports that 460 00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:54,519 violent Venezuelan gangs had taken over apartment complexes in Aurora, Colorado. 461 00:25:55,079 --> 00:25:58,599 But and this couple, yeah, just a couple, just a couple, 462 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,839 A handful, as Martha Raddits would say, yes, just handful. 463 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,720 And this became a big story because there were some 464 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,240 videos that were circulating online that other tenants of these 465 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,839 apartment buildings had taken footage from their ring camera or whatever, 466 00:26:14,839 --> 00:26:16,920 you know, some some like camera that they had outside 467 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:22,720 of their their apartment of armed gang members or you know, 468 00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:24,279 even if they couldn't confirm at the time that it 469 00:26:24,279 --> 00:26:26,799 was gang members, later was revealed to be gang members 470 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,480 storming through the hallways of their apartment complexes with like 471 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,680 large weapons trying to find another Venezuelan tenant that they 472 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,000 were going to like drag out and hurt. And there 473 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,240 was so much violence. And at the time, well, let 474 00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:43,799 me just play let me just play a clip that 475 00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:47,319 you've probably seen before. But this is just remarkable. This 476 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,480 is the way the corporate media talked about this story 477 00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:52,640 at the time. I'm going to stop you. 478 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:58,039 Speaker 8: The incidents were limited to a handful of apartment CONFLICTX 479 00:26:58,599 --> 00:27:02,440 apartment complexes and as mayor said, our dedicated police officers 480 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,480 have acted on those concerns. 481 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: A handful of problems. 482 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 9: Only, Martha, do you hear yourself? 483 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 4: Only? 484 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 9: A handful of apartment complexes in America were taken over 485 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,039 by Venezuelan gangs. And Donald Trump is the problem and 486 00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:20,839 not Kamala Harris's open border. Americans are so fed up 487 00:27:20,839 --> 00:27:23,359 with what's going on, and they have every right to be. 488 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,400 And I really find this exchange, Martha is sort of 489 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,319 interesting because you seem to be more focused with nitpicking 490 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,640 everything that Donald Trump has said rather than acknowledging that 491 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:38,400 apartment complexes in the United States of America are being 492 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,839 taken over by violence. 493 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: Amazing, do you hear yourself? Martha? What an incredible iconic moment. 494 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,599 But it's because of this story being so being used 495 00:27:49,599 --> 00:27:52,319 as such a narrative. So the New York Times then 496 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,960 how the false story of a gang takeover in Colorado 497 00:27:56,079 --> 00:27:59,359 reached Trump, because of course Trump talked about this at 498 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,720 the debate before the election, and it was all like, oh, 499 00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:07,160 he's he's promoting conspiracy theories, and it talks about how 500 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,960 this like crazy notion that gangs had taken over the 501 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,599 supartment complex were elevated to the you know, soon to 502 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,400 be president of the United States and or soon to 503 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,039 be president again of the United States. And now we 504 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,160 have this headline from the New York Times. Democrats denied 505 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,680 this city had a gang problem. The truth is complicated, 506 00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:30,119 isn't it always complicated? L Also democrats denied. It's like 507 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,839 you are the Democrats denying at New York Times, Like 508 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,880 that was you? You The New York Times denied that 509 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,359 this was a problem, and now it's like, oh no. 510 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,119 Speaker 7: See it. 511 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:39,519 Speaker 5: End of this. 512 00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:42,799 Speaker 6: The other day too, with tariffs and like how tariffs 513 00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:46,599 were going to affect prices. They ran this article after 514 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,200 like enough months had passed to show that prices were 515 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,599 still doing just fine, and they were like, experts predicted 516 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,759 that tariffs were going to high prices, and the experts 517 00:28:55,759 --> 00:28:57,839 all gone it wrong and how did they do that? 518 00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,119 Speaker 5: And we were like. 519 00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:00,519 Speaker 6: The experts, give me the X, like it was you, 520 00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:02,519 Like they were like half a dozen seeen in our 521 00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:05,119 articles where the headlines were like, here's how tariffs are 522 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,160 going to make your you know, everything you own more extensive, 523 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,319 and it's like you're you're. 524 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 5: Talking about yourself. It's the same thing here with the 525 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:12,799 New York Times. 526 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, classic unnamed sources or just like vaunted economists, 527 00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:19,799 you know, so they can outsource who's saying it, so 528 00:29:19,839 --> 00:29:22,119 they can pretend they're not saying it. They did. They 529 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,319 do the exact same thing. Like when Biden was in 530 00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:27,400 office and we were headed we were barreling toward a recession. 531 00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:30,519 The economy was in the toilet, it was awful, and 532 00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:34,119 it was all like, well, we can't actually say for 533 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,599 sure what a recession is because we don't actually have 534 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,160 a really good definition. And so when when we actually 535 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,559 got to the fourth consecutive quarter of negative growth or 536 00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:44,920 whatever it is, it was like, what is a recession anyway? 537 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,440 And then we literally got headlines that were like, why 538 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,279 a recession is good for you actually financially. This is 539 00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:55,480 such a pattern. It repeats itself constantly. 540 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,839 Speaker 6: It's not happenings, it's good that it's happening. 541 00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:02,839 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, exactly, exactly. And we saw the same thing too, 542 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,640 of course with Hunter Biden's laptop, which was a huge 543 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,119 piece of election interference because well, how actually you were 544 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,319 heading up the elections team at the time that this 545 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,759 was going on, So why don't you explain how that happened? Yeah, so, 546 00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:20,319 I mean, so the Hunter Biden laptop story, so we 547 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:21,119 were afraid of it. 548 00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:23,559 Speaker 5: That a shorthand, But like, the scandal was never. 549 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,759 Speaker 6: About Hunter Biden so much that there was information on 550 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,240 Hunter Biden's laptop that implicated Joe Biden, and so like 551 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,240 we call it the Hunter Biden story, and there was 552 00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:36,799 a lot of stuff on the laptop that reflected very 553 00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:40,079 poorly on Hunter Biden's character, a lot of salicious photos 554 00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:43,240 and videos and whatnot, But like that was never the story. 555 00:30:43,319 --> 00:30:46,599 The story wasn't about Hunter Biden being a terrible person 556 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,440 and a terrible husband, like he is demonstrably those things. 557 00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:54,039 It was about the foreign connections and the ways that 558 00:30:54,079 --> 00:30:58,720 the Biden family had made deals with foreign countries and 559 00:30:58,799 --> 00:30:59,960 foreign businessmen in a way that. 560 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 5: Could have compromised Biden's decision making. 561 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 6: So one of those examples would be when Joe Biden 562 00:31:08,599 --> 00:31:12,039 was Barack Obama's vice president, he was like the guy 563 00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:16,759 in charge of Ukraine relations, and he bragged at the 564 00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:20,400 time about getting a special prosecutor fired in Ukraine. Well, 565 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,039 it turns out that his son Hunter was on the 566 00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:27,400 board being paid like gobs of money to be on 567 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,839 this energy the board of this energy company where he 568 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:35,559 had no energy experience, and the special prosecutor had been 569 00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:38,440 looking into this energy company and then all of a sudden, 570 00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:40,960 like the prosecutor went away, and so did the investigation, 571 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,119 and Joe Biden bragged about making the prosecutor go away, so. 572 00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 5: Things like this. 573 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 6: People saw the Biden family business dealings that were evidenced 574 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,440 on the laptop and they were like, that's a major 575 00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:53,920 problem for the president or at the time, the guy 576 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,000 who wanted to be president to. 577 00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:57,759 Speaker 5: Have that kind of baggage. 578 00:31:58,519 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 6: So what happened is the New York Co published an 579 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,720 article they got the contents of the laptop because Hunter 580 00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:08,039 Biden dropped it off at a laptop repair story never 581 00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:13,759 picked it up, and they dropped this incredible story about. 582 00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:14,759 Speaker 5: The contents of the laptop. 583 00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 6: And Twitter at the time, Facebook, all these social media 584 00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:22,119 companies which later we found out were being like prodded 585 00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:24,519 to do so in prime to do so by the FBI, 586 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,200 said like, this is disinformation. 587 00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:29,799 Speaker 5: We're not going to let you share this or we're 588 00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:31,240 going to flag it this disinformation. 589 00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:34,079 Speaker 6: And all of the corporate media outlets did the same thing, 590 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,440 Like I think it was NPR had this amazing statement 591 00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:41,039 like gift from the journalism God's statement because of how 592 00:32:41,079 --> 00:32:43,039 crazy it was. It was like, we're not going to 593 00:32:43,079 --> 00:32:47,359 waste your time by reporting on this story because we 594 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,640 don't think it's true, or we don't think it's worth 595 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,960 finding out whether it's true. 596 00:32:51,559 --> 00:32:54,119 Speaker 5: And the claim was that it was Russian disinformation, the 597 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,680 Russians planted this laptop and the information on it, and. 598 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,839 Speaker 6: Then you had like the fifty one intelligent former intelligence 599 00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:04,640 officials going to let it go and I think it. 600 00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 5: Was fusion Natasha Bertrand who stright. 601 00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 6: Saying like, we think this has all the hallmarks of 602 00:33:12,079 --> 00:33:14,480 Russian disinformation, don't pay attention to it. And so there 603 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,559 was this total media blackout of the laptop story which 604 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,160 came out like weeks before the twenty twenty election. 605 00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:27,599 Speaker 1: And specifically before that pivotal debate, the pivotal twenty twenty debate, 606 00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:31,160 like the fifty one former intel officials who signed this 607 00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:34,240 US Russian disinformation letter, Like the entire point of that 608 00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:37,519 being written and then also dropped at the time that 609 00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:40,039 it was was so that Biden could get up on 610 00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:42,640 the debate stage right before the election and wave this 611 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,079 piece of paper around and be like, look what he's 612 00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:47,880 saying is a conspiracy theory, all of these all the 613 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,720 intel community knows that this is fake and like Russia, Russia, Russia. 614 00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:55,680 Like that was That was the entire point. 615 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,519 Speaker 6: Because we later found out that Anthony B. Lincoln, who 616 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,160 was part of Biden's campaign team and then later was 617 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,440 gifted the position of Sectuary State, had gone to these 618 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,839 people who signed on the letter and said like, hey, 619 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,199 I'm as simpling a team, like I'm trying to get 620 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,599 signatures to you know, to get people to dock Biden 621 00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:16,599 now so that he can like waive this at the 622 00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:19,920 debate and you know, not have to answer questions about 623 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,280 his family and business deals. 624 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:25,199 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. And then but in classic fashion, just like this, 625 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,239 just like this New York Times piece where you write 626 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,079 this really convenient narrative that just helps your cause and 627 00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:33,440 helps you accrue power for Democrats, and then either as 628 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,400 soon as it works or as soon as it doesn't work, 629 00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:38,079 you find out after the fact, in this case, after 630 00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:40,000 the twenty twenty four election, and in the case of 631 00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:43,519 the Hunter Biden laptop after the twenty twenty election, that oh, 632 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,199 actually Republicans did have the story right. And in the 633 00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,480 case of the Hunter Biden laptop. Oh, actually the FBI 634 00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:53,840 authenticated the laptop back in twenty nineteen, so actually the 635 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,920 intel community knew full well that this was completely legitimate, 636 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,440 that everything on the laptop was completely true and airtight, 637 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,360 and that all of these Biden family business entanglements were 638 00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:08,119 completely legitimate. And so this playbook repeats itself time and 639 00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:10,760 time and time again, and anytime there's a story. 640 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 6: There's never any accountability. Like that's why you have the 641 00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:15,880 same guys who were behind the Russia collusion hopes in 642 00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:20,920 twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen, Like they're the ones, many 643 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,760 of them behind the Russian disinformation Hunter Biden laptop letter 644 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,719 in twenty twenty. 645 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,199 Speaker 1: They just keep going yeah, yeah, and that's how you 646 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,800 end up with this, Yeah, Natasha Fusion Natasha perfect example 647 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,599 of that. Somehow she's back in the news still constantly 648 00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:36,880 all of the time. We've seen her way too many 649 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,320 times in the past two weeks. Value say that again. 650 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 6: Oh and I said, people take what she says at 651 00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:46,880 face value, like they don't know that she's been an 652 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,880 instrument actual disinformation. 653 00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:53,119 Speaker 1: Yes, actual disinformation. Yes, most people don't know, but our 654 00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:56,159 listeners know because they know Fusion. Natasha is a complete joke, 655 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,039 and I'm sure she'll get plenty of Pulitzer Prizes in 656 00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:01,719 her day because all the fake journalists get them. But 657 00:36:02,119 --> 00:36:05,559 you should not listen to Fusion Natasha, because she is 658 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,400 the epitome of bad news. 659 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,599 Speaker 6: I'm waiting to see her made the head of the 660 00:36:10,639 --> 00:36:12,159 White House Courspondence Association. 661 00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:15,079 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's coming. That is always the trajectory. People 662 00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:17,559 always fail up into that role from the biggest conspiracy 663 00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:21,360 theories and the worst narratives. So awesome. Thank you Elle 664 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,920 so much for joining me. So pleased to have you 665 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,440 in your vast wisdom on media criticism. This is el 666 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,440 pernow assignment editor at The Federalist, and I'm sure we'll 667 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,199 see her back many many more times to come. 668 00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:35,159 Speaker 5: Thanks for having me, Kylie. 669 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: All Right, before I wrap, I've got to talk about 670 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,840 two clips I saw this week. The first is Lily Allen, who, 671 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,280 if you don't know who that is, she's kind of 672 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,239 a Hollywood has been. She's an actress and a singer 673 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,679 and whatever. The only reason that she's well, I think 674 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,800 the only reason that she's like front and center right 675 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,719 now is because she's having a split her marriages, breaking 676 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,360 up with David Harbor, who's very famous right now. I mean, 677 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,719 he's been in a number of things. You might know 678 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,280 him from a recent Marvel movie or from Stranger Things. 679 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,880 But anyway, their marriage is breaking up, and so he's 680 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,840 in the news, and so of course she's in the news. 681 00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:15,360 But she has her own podcast, and on this podcast 682 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,360 with her co host, she was discussing her method of contraception. 683 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,079 As she's talking about contraception, she just mentions that she 684 00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:26,639 used to get pregnant all the time, and because of this, 685 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,119 she said that she has had multiple abortions. Basically, she 686 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,199 used abortion as birth control, like that was her contraceptive, 687 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,320 was to just end the human life. And the real 688 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,599 kicker is that she's had several and she couldn't even 689 00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:43,840 remember how many, so she guesses that it's like four 690 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,960 or five. At that point, her co host joins in 691 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,280 and says, yeah, she'd had about five abortions too, and 692 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,920 then starts gushing about how happy she is that these 693 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,239 two girlfriends could just chitchat about these things and have 694 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,480 it all out in the open, and it was just 695 00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:02,960 such a happy thing for them. Really really disgusting clip. Honestly, 696 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,159 you might just need to see for yourself. Abortions. I've 697 00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:11,760 had a few, but then again, I can't remember exactly 698 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,360 how many. Really, Yeah, why didn't this come up in 699 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,360 last week's episode? We were just talking about. 700 00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:20,039 Speaker 8: Emotions because I was just letting you you run with it, 701 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,320 reveal everything I can't remember. 702 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think maybe, like I want to say five, 703 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,880 four or five. Yeah, I've had about five. 704 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,079 Speaker 6: Two, Lily, I've never I'm so happy I can say 705 00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:32,800 that and you can say it and no one came 706 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,840 to shoot us down. 707 00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:37,159 Speaker 1: So around the same time as this Lily Allen clip, 708 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,199 Alex Cooper releases a recent episode of her Call Her 709 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:46,159 Daddy podcast with actress Charlie's Thoran, and they discussed a 710 00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:48,599 lot of things in the typical Call Her Daddy way 711 00:38:48,599 --> 00:38:52,320 where it was very crass and you know, unfiltered, but 712 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,960 specifically they talked about Theron's latest sexual conquests and her 713 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,239 what they characterized as her mature and so aware decision 714 00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:05,639 to intentionally adopt two children into a fatherless home. So 715 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,519 Thoran is not married and she adopts two children and 716 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,679 is just like single mom in it. The older of 717 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,880 these two children, which surprise surprise. This is not surprising 718 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,159 given the fact that they have no dad is a 719 00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:21,440 boy that Thoran has raised as a trans girl since 720 00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:24,480 he was a toddler. Anyway, Thoran is talking about the 721 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,280 one night stance that she's had and the amazing sex 722 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,079 that she's had in this stage of her life. And 723 00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:30,920 she talks about this twenty six year old that she 724 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,400 recently had sex with. And mind you, thehan is almost fifty, 725 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,559 so she's like double the age of this guy. But 726 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,840 my colleague el pernow that you saw just a few 727 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,960 minutes ago, she actually she phrased this the best in 728 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,639 a piece that she wrote at The Federalist. You'll have 729 00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:46,480 to check it out. The forty nine year old multimillionaire 730 00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:49,119 and mother of two approaches sex with all the maturity 731 00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:52,679 of a beer chugging frat boy. These two clips, they're 732 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,960 totally separate shows. Lily Allen Charlie's Thorn, totally separate shows, 733 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,519 totally separate people. But they could not be need more 734 00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:03,840 intertwined things. They're not separate things at all. Both of 735 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,159 these things are part and parcel of the same sexual revolution. 736 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,880 One is the cause and one is the effect. The 737 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,000 sexual revolution, of course, sold the lie that there are 738 00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:15,519 no differences between the sexes, which is how you get 739 00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:20,440 not only trans kids, but also homes where one of 740 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,920 the parents is completely expendable, and that sometimes manifests itself, 741 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,159 like in Charlie's Thorne's case, where you don't need a dad, 742 00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:31,280 you can just adopt a child into a single mother home, 743 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,280 as if children don't need a father, that biological function 744 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,039 just doesn't exist, or you end up with a situation 745 00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:40,800 where kids are adopted into a home with two moms 746 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,679 or two dads, as if that is the natural way, 747 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,559 or as if that honors the rights of children at all. 748 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,000 The same culture that liberates women into having meaningless sex 749 00:40:50,039 --> 00:40:52,920 with random men is also the same one that pretends 750 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,400 that there's no risks associated with that sex, that there 751 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,760 are no consequences like getting pregnant or creating new life. 752 00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:03,280 And that's how you end up with a culture where 753 00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:06,840 a woman like Lily Allen treats abortion like birth control 754 00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:10,239 and can't even remember how many of her own children's 755 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,760 lives she has ended. So if nothing else, ladies, find 756 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,159 yourself a better role model than Charlie's Theron or Lily 757 00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:22,559 Allen or Alex Cooper. I mean, come on, thank you 758 00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:26,000 everyone so much for joining this very first episode of 759 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,320 the Kylie Cast. I am truly so excited for everything 760 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,039 that's in store. There's going to be so much more 761 00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:33,639 to come. Be sure to tune in next Thursday, because 762 00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:36,360 I will be back with Barn. Don't forget the true 763 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:37,519 hurts that won't kill