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Speaker 2: I was reflecting, but reflecting, I was thinking, cogitating, pontificating,
non pontificating.
Speaker 3: I was reflecting.
Speaker 2: So I listened to the Tom Tillis interview with Jake
Tapper last night, again, this time with a try to
see it in a different light, to try to say,
because yesterday was it ended up being roughly half the
show that we were talking about. What the hell was
he thinking?
Speaker 3: Why did he do this?
Speaker 2: There were so many different questions.
Speaker 3: It came to mind.
Speaker 2: Callers called in those who weren't upset that they weren't
getting an instant tax credit or instant money in their
pocket from the government, no surprise, but listening to the
US Senator Tom Tillis discuss the world with Jake Tapper.
So there's a couple of things I want to preface
this one. This is an agreed upon interview. Tell us
his staff agreed to sit down with notoriously anti Trump
Jake Tapper. So that was a decision, an executive level
decision that he made. He sat down in the interview
knowing knowing that the preponderance this interview would have a
lot of anti Trumpian, anti Republican sentiment, while asserting throughout
the interview that he's a strong conservative, strong lifelong Republican leader,
all of those things. And so the observation from thirty
thousand feet if you're listening to Tom to Senator tillis
he was very poised. I mean, he was very extremely
comfortable in how he feels about things. He's extremely comfortable
articulating how he feels about things. He also doesn't discuss
So they do talk about the bill, they do talk
about the run for Senate, they do talk about his
relationship with the president, but he doesn't fully articulate why
he believes he's a conservative. He was the only republic
i mean Rand Paul of the two Republicans that voted
against the Big Beautiful Bill or's the Democrats call it
the big Ugly bill. He talks about medicaid, you know,
the cuts in medicaid expansion. He doesn't articulate why. He
just says it's bad. He says he told the president
it to be his Obamacare. The irony there is that
Obamacare was a massive expansion of government. This bill is
an attempt to contract government. So Tillis doesn't make that distinction.
He never makes the distinction, and he never discusses spending
in the thirty plus minute interview. He never discusses a
need to curtail government spending. He never juxtaposes rights or
anything like that. He's just concerned about medicaid and that,
you know, the expansion of medicaid. But beyond that, Tillis
wants the audience to know that that he's a smart guy,
and he does this in a number of ways that
are interesting to watch if you're paying attention. He does
this by being very intellectual about very little. So his
his main the main a couple of things. You walk
away from one. He's he plans to expose the amateurs
in Trump's circle, the advisors to the president that that
Tillis believes are bad advisors, and he wouldn't name them
to Taper confronted him a couple of times, Hey, who
are these people? He says, all in due time, it's coming.
Speaker 3: It's coming. It's coming.
Speaker 2: I probably he didn't say I promised, but he said
it's coming. He also essentially throws all of the geop
he senators in the US Senate under the bus because
he's the only one that solve the problems with the bill. Now,
Ran Paul saw it, because you know, he's worried about
it adding to the debt national debt. Tillis is concerned
because they just didn't get it right. He doesn't go
into a great detail about what that means, but he
read it, and he pondered on it, and he thought
about it. He and he just said, you know, I'm
just it's just not gonna be right. He has also
he addressed people that he turned down Trump nominations. He
wishes now, even the day after the interview, he wishes
he had turned down Pete hegg Seth. He thinks Pete
heggcept is not qualified to do the job and is
out of his depth. So, as you put the pieces
of the Tillis interview together, what you realize is he
thinks he's the smartest guy in the room.
Speaker 3: Now, he's a smart guy.
Speaker 2: No one's debating that. But he thinks he's smarter than
the President, than North Carolinians, than the interviewer, than the
people who wrote the bill, the people who altered the bill,
the people.
Speaker 3: Who voted on the bill.
Speaker 2: He alone, he alone has the knowledge. He alone is
the keeper of great knowledge. He alone is the oracle,
the oracle not at Delphi, I guess Modernate, the oracle
of DC, the oracle of the Senate. I guess he
can be now because he's been removed from being on
the whip team in the Senate. That happened very fast,
within twenty four hours of him being on Jake Tapper's interview.
He's removed from that capacity also, and Tapper continually kind
of attacks Trump.
Speaker 3: He can't help it.
Speaker 2: There's something about certain journalists that they cannot remove.
Speaker 3: And he's an experienced guy.
Speaker 2: Even I'm aware if I'm going to interview a Democrat,
and I used to do that consistently, Democrats and Republicans.
Speaker 3: I interviewed them all.
Speaker 2: And one of the ways to get around your bias
is to ask, especially if you're doing candidate interviews, ask
candidates the same question, who you are, why are you running,
what do you believe in? Why do you believe you're
the best candidate for the job. Do everything you can
to not ask conservative liberal questions unless there's an issue
that's facing a community and they can express that, Like,
for instance, in Charlotte, you would ask people about the
transit system. We'll talk a little bit about that later.
And you can't ask questions about the transit system without
discussing the lack of ridership and the way this thing's
kind of still going down, the tubes continues to have
to be subsidized. You're getting ready to have a new
tax in Charlotte. Again, we'll talk about that. But Tillis
does a really good job of just pontificating. And then
Tapper when they talk about the US Senate race next year,
which we talked about on this program.
Speaker 3: We've discussed Roy Cooper, We've.
Speaker 2: Discussed the Jeff Jackson, who's the attorney general for of
the state as Democrats. We discussed also a list of
potential Pat Harrigan, Laura Trump, we discussed some people that
might be on the right. So what does Jake Tapper do,
with all the knowledge that's readily available to him, what
name do you think Jake Tapper throws out as the
potential nominee.
Speaker 3: For the Republicans.
Speaker 2: He throws out Mark Robinson, puts a picture of Mark
on the screen and ask, you know, tell Us about
Mark Robinson, and tell Us of course says, no, I
would never endorse He's not going to be the nominee.
Speaker 3: I won't endorse him.
Speaker 2: But but that was so what you The only two
pictures that Jake Tapper showed Tom tell Us about the
Senate race were Mark Robinson and Roy Cooper. The shiny
Roy Cooper, the the unadulterated Roy Cooper, and then this
this horrible human being you know in Mark Robinson. That
that tell Us just hits it out of the parker now.
But the point meant that if you want to see
a clear bias, that was a good example of it.
Tell Us also went on to point out multiple times,
you know about Trump, how he even was trying to
They tried to bait tell Us into saying something negative
about the president other than being smarter than the president,
is that he would show Trump's tweets. Jake Tapper Wood
to tell Us, and tell Us was just say, hey,
we disagree on that issue and gloss over it. But
clearly tell Us knew he was not going to walk
through the primary next year, and he acted like he
did this so he could elevate himself. And the truth
of the matter is his vote on the bill silled
his fate. He wasn't going to run for Senate. It
was a fade, a complete He did it to himself,
or maybe he knew he wasn't going to win and
he just decided to declare war on Trump.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Nonetheless, it's a very striking interview if you get a
chance to watch it, watch it. Like I said, he's
amazingly poised, polished, calm, but the arrogance does come across
that he's the smartest Republican in DC or maybe ever anywhere,
and that comes across.
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Speaker 2: Well, we went to the break discuss the interview between
Jake Tapperan and Senator tell Us tell Us not running again.
It is a very it's he wants you to know
he's a Republican, but he also wants you to know
he really doesn't care what you think.
Speaker 3: He's right, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: And they spent some time trying to make him more
ordinary about his background. I mean, moving a lot and
having brothers and big family and the work ethic and
stuff like that. But it's a good interview if you
listen to it and you're not that astute politically. You know,
he comes across as very reasonable and salient. I'm not
going to say he doesn't. That's one of the marks
of his traits. His pragmatism is how he became the
north kind of House speaker, because it's not you know,
he ran against a hardcore conservative and he defeated that conservative,
and he's never been. He wants to tell you he is,
but his voting record is not overly conservative. So moving forward,
they didn't ask about immigration, they didn't ask about the border,
they didn't ask about you know, NATO, they didn't ask
about a lot of the big things. It was mainly
about the bill, him deciding not to run a little
bit he you know, him defending himself and attacks on
Republicans by Jake Tapper. Now after this, so I don't
know if it was late last night, afternoon, California is
an different time zone. There was a massive ICE raid
and it was the name of the place is just
still gets me. You know, this look of glass farms.
Let me see if I get the name. The name
of it just caught me off guard when I was
reading through the story and all the details. So what
happened in California was that ICE executed a search warrant
on a platform out in California the you know, and
so they went out. I guess it's a legal platform,
so it's not that. But went through the midst of this,
it became like a battleground, you know, and and there
were people that were confronting the ICE agents. They were
attacking the ICE agents. It turned into a four hour
standoff and it and you know it, it was really bad.
What happened in California is just another example of protesters
becoming criminals. And they've been emboldened by members of Congress
who compare ICE members to Nazis and racists and terrorists.
Said Tom Holman. Borders are earlier today on Fox News.
This is from the New York Post. Host I said
months ago it's going to end with a loss of life,
and we had one the other day in Texas. And
it's not over, he said, referring to the gunmen who
opened fire on Border patrol agents walking into work in
McCallen on Monday, Immigration agents who descended on glass House farms,
and we'll talk about that in a minute. In the
city of Camarillo, one of the biggest cannabis farms in
southern California, one of the largest in the nation by
the way, were met by dozens of demonstrators gathered on
a road between fields, where the uniformed officers stood in
the line across from them. A military style helicopter flew
overhead as the melee ensued. Protesters shouted screeched until agents
used canisters with an unknown substance and fired less than
lethal rounds, forcing the protesters to retreat. Several of the
protesters through what appeared to be rocks at the officers.
As they retreated, a mask man in black appeared to
to let off a few actual gun rounds among a
crowd of other protesters trying to get away. The FBI
has now launched an investigation into the shooter, who was
all caught on film, and is offering a ward of
fifty thousand for information. The clash lasted for four hours
as US Customs and Border Patrols set up a blockade,
military style vehicles, and a pastoral region. This scene was
just an unreal as that the Left is now based
between apps and letting people know they're trying to create
these massive confrontations. US Border patrol people are doing their jobs,
by the way, they aren't shooting people. They aren't and
they're trying to do their jobs. This is where it
gets even weirder. So five people went to the hospital,
a number of folks were picked up. The farm is
now under investigation. So what gets interesting is they picked
up ten kids. Ten kids, eight of whom were unaccompanied
by an adult, two of whom were working the pot farm.
So you have kids, illegal, undocumented folks working a pot farm.
The political left is screaming about all this stuff that
was horrible, But yet we had the by the way,
we had thirty thousand kids without documentation that came into
the country, had no no family know nothing the Biden
administration while it went on. They've since located that are missing.
By the way, thirty thousand kids that are missing, they've
located ten thousand of those and helped reunite them with
their family. Not much of a news story, but Homan
has discussed this. But still ten kids picked up. So
they're working the pot farm. And who's running the pot farm?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: They insist, Oh, we're doing everything legal, but you rounded
up a bunch of people that weren't supposed to be there,
including ten kids, eight of whom didn't even have an
adult with them. Gavin Newsom then went after So after this,
Gavin Newsom goes after the president and said, you know
when she references President Trump's newscomb nickname, and he calls
the President the real scum for doing this. And then
DHS responds to Newsom who says, why are their children
working at a marijuana facility? Governor care to answer that
this is And it's so weird because both sides feel
that they're completely justifying the way they're feeling. The Democrats
do not want to talk about the kids working in
the field. They don't want to talk about illegals that
are there.
Speaker 3: Working it.
Speaker 2: They only want to talk about why are you doing
this is going to hurt our farms? You had kids
working at a pot farm. It's not cool. It's not
good at all. We were not not even talking about
human trafficking, not even talking about the drug cartels, not
even talking about all the other grift and illegal activities
and gang operations, the trend to aguas and MS thirteen's
and all these others that are present in our society
across North Carolina too. Don't don't think just because it
happened in California, it's an absolute mess that was avoidable.
This is a mess created by the folks that were
previously in office that didn't seem to care. Still, glasshouse farms,
that's ironic. People who live in glasshouses that shouldn't throw rocks.
And yet that's how the protesters did. They threw nothing
but rocks at ice agents. The standoff drue widespread criticism,
and it should have, including Governor US Congressman Salud Carrajal,
who was denied entry when he tried to get past federal.
Speaker 3: Agents into the farm.
Speaker 2: Why would a congressman want to again, they the congressman
wanted to get in to either feel the effects of
the tear gas or whatever was use. He wanted to
get shot with the rubber, but he wanted to get
on video. He wanted to gain attention. He couldn't get it.
Newsom's office accused President Trump's advisor Stephen Miller of sparking
terror in local communities. There's a real cost to these
inhumane immigration actions on hard working families and communities. Instead
of that's what Newsom's office said, Instead of supporting the
businesses and workers that drive our economy away of life,
Stephen Miller's tactics evoke chaos, fhear.
Speaker 3: And terror within our communities. The every turn.
Speaker 2: Again governor knew some why are children working at a
pot farm? Crickets? Nothing, no response? And one of the
problems with this, and I have several friends who who
are in this issue, meaning it's kind of fascinate. They
think that, you know, the Republicans are going to rue
the day they did this, because all the immigrants are
going to turn on. But actually legal illegal immigrants are
actually completely in favor of what's going on right now.
They work too hard to get ahead to let other
people move to the front of the line.
Speaker 3: They don't like it.
Speaker 2: Those numbers are bearing out that more and more. There
was even a woman that was picked up in Louisiana,
I think in a front yard. She'd been many years.
She actually has regular meetings. She got picked up and
put in jail for much she shouldn't have been. This
was a terrible story and knew enough people. I guess
Steve Scalice got involved and got her out. And you
would think that would be a one person that would
turn against all this, and she's like, no, She's still
one hundred percent supports because she knows that there's so
many people here that shouldn't be here.
Speaker 1: She got it.
Speaker 2: I mean, she had every reason in the world to say,
you guys are wrong, this screwed things up, but she didn't.
So moving into the subject when I've got friends that
are on the other side of this issue from me,
they're in the entirety of their perspective, is that all
of all And again you hear me use the word
all in the use of the word some, they would say,
all of the people here are innocent people that are
just trying to make their lives better. They're just trying
to make it better. They're running our businesses are farms
they're running, you know, and that's kind of an elite attitude.
First of all, let those poor people work all the
low entry jobs. But the means you're also encouraging businesses
to hire people that they should be hiring.
Speaker 3: So there's that.
Speaker 2: But they continue to think all these people are innocent.
And when you remind them, say, hey, in a stay
up the size of North Carolina, ten plus million people,
how many bad guys do we have? We have a lot.
So in a population of ten million eleven million that
have come across the border, we don't know who they are.
At least here we kind of can find out who
people are. You don't know who these people are, you
don't know where they're staying. And you know that there's
some bad people in these very bad murderers, rapists, human traffickers,
horrible human beings that have been picked up and released
multiple times in this country. It is it's not an
all or some. There are some horrible people. And that's
what the thrust of Ice right now is really trying
to get at.
Speaker 3: The folks that are not so good should be.
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Speaker 2: So the joke over the break was you're never too
young to work at a weed farm in Gavin Newsom's California.
I just thought that was hysterical. You're never too young
to work at a weed plant in Gaven Newsom's California.
They should put that on a billboard. You know, Hey,
bring your family here, your kids can work on a
weed farm. It would be funny. At least it would
be funny to me, because well, that's the way I
am now. A couple of things I wanted to get to,
and this is it's kind of local, but I was
reading it from a national perspective, and then as I
was doing the research, I thought, you know, this is
the typical everywhere you go. Light rail systems. Mass transit
is boring, un sexy topic. I know. But Charlotte, you guys,
you're getting ready to have another tax, another penny or
something like that to help support your transit system. Your
taxes are going up to give you less service for
a product that not as many people use. And this
isn't just unique to Charlotte. I think Charlotte has envy
Atlanta envy. So the mayor and a bunch of others
want to be more like Atlanta and Charlotte's some beautiful
city doesn't need to have Atlanta, and it's a great place,
could be could be made better if it quit trying
to chase chase its tail and waste money on frivolous
projects that go nowhere. There are nearly three thousand transit
systems in the United States. Four years ago, the federal
government met it out and gave away three or thirty
billion in pandemic transit aid, saving many of them from
shutting down completely. At the same time, operators large and
small warned again and again and again that the COVID
funds would eventually run out before they knew it and
send agencies right off the edge of a fiscal cliff
again with devastating consequences. Transit officials warnings never changed. More recently,
the volume of those warnings have been turned up in
ear splitting levels, but the complaints of the riding public
deprived of bus, subway, commuter rail, and pair of transit
rides are drawing them out. With federal funding bla locked
by a right wing White House in Congress, transit agencies
are calling for state funding to prop up public transportation.
Speaker 3: You see that here in.
Speaker 2: Charlotte as well, money that is usually in short supply
in state capitals across the country. That means the conversation
is all about either radical austerity or fiscal innovation. What
does that look like.
Speaker 3: So let's look at Philadelphia first. We'll get to Charlotte
in a second.
Speaker 2: At the end of June. This is this is how
bad transit systems get. And it's buses pay the price.
But buses actually, if you added bus routes, you can
move those to where people would write things. The truth
of the matter with transit in Charlotte and everywhere else,
it has not returned to pre pandemic ridership. In fact,
that even returned to some of the pre pandemic pre
pre pre like years ago ridership levels. The Southeastern Pennsylvania
Transportation Authority, the country's sixth largest transit agency, unveiled its
radical austerity fix for a two hundred and thirteen billion
dollar deficit.
Speaker 3: Think about that.
Speaker 2: The entire budget for the state of North Carolina is
twenty seven billion, thirty billions awre in that range, they
have a two hundred and thirteen billion dollars deficit just
with their transit system. That translates into a series of
rolling cuts in August, September and next January of forty
five percent service reduction across all modes. A total of
fifty bus routes are going to be cut, beginning with
thirty two lines by the end of August. Subway and
regional service would end at nine pm every single night.
Forget about free parking at their transit lots. Managers would
see pay freeze as no new higher shedding outside consultants.
In September, city transit riders would get hit with a
fair increase of almost three dollars a twenty one percent high.
Philly would share honors with New York for the highest
bus and subway fares in the country. That's after a
seven percent increase last year. Among the serious problems gnawing
in Philadelphia is its failure to regain pre pandemic ridership levels.
Those aren't coming back, folks, They're just not among commuters.
How when and where people work, as well as how
they view coming in and out of city, affects their
transportation decisions. There is also some appreciation about personal safety.
People from the suburbs prior to the pandemic would take transit,
come in, do a late night orchestra event or a show,
and now they're deciding not to do those things. They
just don't want to do them. And if you look
at whether it's in Philadelphia, you're looking at Pennsylvania, you're
looking Pittsburgh, it's all the same when you look. So
I was looking at Charlotte's. What do Charlotte' numbers look like?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: The story ran last February, but it's a continual problem
for the city of Charlotte. The Charlotte Area transit systems ridership.
This is from news reports back then, back in February,
so it's not changed. The Charlotte Area transit systems ridership
increased by nearly eleven percent in twenty twenty four compared
to the prior year, but the number of people writing
it is still far lower than it was a decade ago. Now,
think about Charlotte's grown. The number of people write a
transit less Kats carried fifteen point seven million passenger trips
last year as it worked to bounce back from the coronavirus.
Fifteen point seven million. That's not unique writers, by the way,
So if you were to take that the large proponners
that are the people who write it the same every day,
they're not because they don't want to talk about unique writers.
If you ever ask them, how many unique writers do
you have? It's dismal. So the increase over twenty twenty
three is likely due to more people returning to work
in the office, But overall ridership is still sixty five
percent from pre pandemic levels in twenty nineteen, and it's
only a little more than half of what it was
in twenty thirteen. And again, the story and the way
the news media writes it is where more than twenty
nine people wrote it in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 3: No, they didn't.
Speaker 2: There were twenty nine million fares. Doesn't mean twenty nine
million people came into Charlotte wrote the transit.
Speaker 3: They didn't.
Speaker 2: So this is a problem that is haunting Charlotte into
which Charlotte will sink an endless amount of money and
subsidize and continue doing what all of them are doing.
They're all losing money. People are not writing them. There's
more stay at home. The digital economy, the gig economy,
is changing the way people work. It's changing the way
people do entertainment. It's changing so many things. Think about
your own life, how many times do you go out
as much and how many of you are willing that
are listening to this broadcast, are willing to hop on
a trainer or bus to go somewhere. You're just not
in survey. When we used to do these surveys, when
I was at the Lock Foundation, what you found was
a lot of people love the idea of transit.
Speaker 3: Love it great, wonder we'll do it?
Speaker 2: Do it? Do it? Do it? You say, were you
gonna write it? No, no, we just want to get
all the other cars off the road so we'll have
the road. It's good for thee, not for me. It's
that sense of humor that people have. So Charlotte is
hoping to pass a one cent sales tax increase that'll
expand the bus system and build new rate rail transit
lines that even more people won't write. So you're gonna
so this is funny. You're not to pre pandemic levels.
You're less than half of what you were in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 3: And what do you do?
Speaker 2: Most people in business would say, you know something's going
on here, we have a problem. No, that's not what
Charlotte does. Charlotte says, you know what, we don't have
as many poper writing, so we're gonna build more. We're
gonna build more stuff that people already are choosing not
to be a part of, and we're going to raise.
Speaker 3: Your taxes to do it. Yay, we're genius.
Speaker 2: What a novel idea. Imagine if every business did that,
we'd have a lot more bankruptcies now. But govern doesn't bankrupt,
it tries to bankrupt you. That sounded terrible, did it?
I didn't mean for it to sound so bad. You know.
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world where it's a butterfly effect across many spectrums in
which one subject matter effects another subject matter effects another.
Speaker 3: It kind of comes full circle.
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the Big Beautiful Bill is going to destroy the world,
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direct and in fact, their screed lately has been it's
just going to kill people. You know, USA idea, if
you got it, it's going to kill people. If you
pass the Big Beautiful Bill, it's just gonna kill people.
Climate change, Oh my god, it's just gonna kill people.
It's a very simple way to say, I guess it's
the ultimate way to fear, to instill fear that and
making you talk in public. You know, Hey, the Big
Beautiful Bill is going to make all of you give
a speech in public that's very terrifying, so people don't
want to. It's just going to kill people every everything
that it's so funny the reaction. It should it should
be that simple, shouldn't it.
Speaker 3: It's just going to kill people. It's just don't don't worry.
Speaker 2: Every everything that Trump wants to do is just designed
to kill people. And you get tired of hearing it
after a while you're like, wait a minute, it's just
not true, not not directly, not ostensibly, it's just not
in fact, even when they attacked Iran to everything they
could to not kill people, destroyed the nuclear facilities.
Speaker 3: Now on that front, and.
Speaker 2: A couple of things. One you remember it wasn't that
long ago. Remember we were all going to get bird flu.
That was the big threat. You know, hey, you know
whatever the bird flu. It's a you know, bird flu
H five N one avian influenza. You know it's it's
gonna it's wiping out bird stocks.
Speaker 3: Look at chicken. It's contributing to egg prices.
Speaker 2: When you find it, your chickens, you got to kill
all your chickens, your ducks, your geese, whatever you got
you got to kill them all they're can kill them,
so spread to humans, it's going to be a problem.
And when's the last time you heard anything about that.
It's a great story over at Real Clear Science today
about it. From the onset outset of the Trump administration,
bird flu has flown rather conspicuously under the radar, so
much so that this week the CDC announced the end
of its emergency response to bird flu, citing a lack
of reported human cases. Remember, even my sister had written
me about this. At the end of twenty twenty four,
infections in the Unite US were surging from Ohio to California.
Diagnosises were being made, and growing numbers of farm workers
who came into contact with infected cattle and poultry low
grade fever, muscle eggs, inflammation. As cases swelled, and older
man in Louisiana fel critically ill, he would eventually become
the first person in the US to die from the
virus since initial human cases were reported in nineteen ninety seven.
We seem then, for a moment, to be on the
tipping point, bound to unleash. Then it's going to be
the next pandemic, And yet none of it happened. Since February,
the CDC, which still monitors everything, has not recorded a
single new case in the US. Stuck at seventy. Rationalizing
the lull and infections has been puzzling. Researchers have tried
have tied the wild birds, the virus's largest reservoir, and
their spring and fall migrations to periods of great spread
cuts to staff who monitor the virus, that the Department
of Agriculture and the Center for Veterinary Medicine might also
be playing a role. But these ideas dismissed the deeper
and more fundamental problem around our grasp of bird flu
as an infectious disease physicians who work primarily with immigrant populations.
The author's perspective often sits at the nexus between the
people of a novel disease and how it affects them
and the apparatuses that exist to control it. But they say,
maybe we're missing things, maybe it's flying under the radar.
But the truth of the matter is it's not that bad.
But here's I want to step from that to another thing.
Because we do have eleven million undocumented people best estimate,
even even your AI searches will tell you that in
the country. We do know that we've had a massive
surge of measles in Canada and Mexico. Now, in fact,
we have a couple of deaths in Mexico or yeah,
and now we have a surge in the US. So
there are unintended consequence. People say, there are numerous stories
that are trying to say, no, that's not true. It
didn't come from But those are populations that are largely
unimmunized against measles, and now they're mixing with our population.
Measles cases in the United States have reached their highest
number in more than thirty years. According to new federal data,
there have been one two hundred and eighty eight confirmed
cases of measles across thirty eight states in the country,
according to the CDC. By comparison, the US only recorded
two hundred and eighty five cases all last year. That's
the highest number since ninety two. I think it's, unfortunately
just the beginning, said doctor Hotez, professor of pediatrics molecular
Virology at Baylor University in Texas. I think things are
going to continue to get worse in terms of childhood illnesses,
and I'm quite worried that we're seeing in the US.
It's not going to stay in the US. But by
the way, you do have cases in other countries. In fact,
the CNN, even CNN has reported this in Mexico and Canada,
looking at the Pan American Organization, so that Canada Mexico
over fifteen hundred cases there. And again, when you don't
have immigration, when you don't have control of what's happening
in your country, you have trouble understanding what's happening in
your populations. You don't know there could be a much
deadlier virus. I'm not saying there is. Don't say Chad's
saying the migrants are bringing the next abola into the country.
Not the point being if you did have that, you
wouldn't know. That's one of the things. One of the
horrible things about the AIDS pandemic that by the way,
is still ongoing, was that in the beginning, no one
knew about the HIV. They never didn't know about it
Human immuno deficiency virus, they didn't know about it. And
so the beauty of that virus from a scientific standpoint
is that it had a latency period that could be
six months to a year, so by the time you
had spread the virus to multiple people was long before
you showed in symptoms or anyone knew you had it.
So that's why it spreads so rapidly. A virus like
ebola spreads extremely rapidly. It spreads in a given community once.
If you were to get in a supermarket, everybody would
get sick and be close to death within seventy two hours.
Speaker 3: It'd be very rapid. These horrible fevers.
Speaker 2: We have one in this country called the hantavirus, which
is in the desert southwest. These virus is spread so
quickly that it's hard to get into a large population.
That's why you see it contained to these small African villages.
But nonetheless, I'm not trying to get deep in the
weeds of viology. It's just a fascination I have. Among
the nationally confirmed cases, the CDC said it ninety two
percent are among people who are unvaccinated whose vaccination.
Speaker 3: SATs is unknown. We're talking about the measles.
Speaker 2: Four percent of cases are among those who received just
windows of the MMR vaccine, in four percent of those
who receive two doses.
Speaker 3: So Texas, this is interesting.
Speaker 2: Texas the number one state where you're most likely to
get me is over seven hundred cases in Texas, if
it's followed by New Mexico, Kansas, Colorado, Oklahoma, California. Again,
states that have a large influx of Hispanics and excuse me,
that sounds terrible, a large influx of illegals from other
countries that came across the Mexican border. And so to
think is it possible that it came across the border
and that's the nexus of the spread. A lot of
people on the left want to downplay that. They don't
want to because that would be yet another problem for
them as they defended an open border and now we
have a population that's not really doing so well with it.
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