1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,480 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,719 my daily show prep with all of the links, become 6 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:22,359 a patron, go to dpeakclendershow dot com. Make sure you 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,920 hit the subscribe button. Get every episode for free right 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,320 to your smartphone or tablet, And again, thank you so 9 00:00:27,399 --> 00:00:28,320 much for your support. 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: I was reflecting, but reflecting, I was thinking, cogitating, pontificating, 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:36,320 non pontificating. 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 3: I was reflecting. 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: So I listened to the Tom Tillis interview with Jake 14 00:00:42,359 --> 00:00:48,119 Tapper last night, again, this time with a try to 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,560 see it in a different light, to try to say, 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,320 because yesterday was it ended up being roughly half the 17 00:00:54,359 --> 00:00:56,840 show that we were talking about. What the hell was 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:57,439 he thinking? 19 00:00:57,719 --> 00:00:58,679 Speaker 3: Why did he do this? 20 00:00:58,759 --> 00:01:00,359 Speaker 2: There were so many different questions. 21 00:01:00,399 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: It came to mind. 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: Callers called in those who weren't upset that they weren't 23 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,400 getting an instant tax credit or instant money in their 24 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:13,519 pocket from the government, no surprise, but listening to the 25 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:18,799 US Senator Tom Tillis discuss the world with Jake Tapper. 26 00:01:18,879 --> 00:01:22,000 So there's a couple of things I want to preface 27 00:01:22,079 --> 00:01:26,359 this one. This is an agreed upon interview. Tell us 28 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:31,560 his staff agreed to sit down with notoriously anti Trump 29 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,359 Jake Tapper. So that was a decision, an executive level 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,400 decision that he made. He sat down in the interview 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,200 knowing knowing that the preponderance this interview would have a 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:47,519 lot of anti Trumpian, anti Republican sentiment, while asserting throughout 33 00:01:47,519 --> 00:01:52,079 the interview that he's a strong conservative, strong lifelong Republican leader, 34 00:01:52,239 --> 00:01:56,120 all of those things. And so the observation from thirty 35 00:01:56,159 --> 00:01:59,959 thousand feet if you're listening to Tom to Senator tillis 36 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,079 he was very poised. I mean, he was very extremely 37 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:10,159 comfortable in how he feels about things. He's extremely comfortable 38 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:15,719 articulating how he feels about things. He also doesn't discuss 39 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,280 So they do talk about the bill, they do talk 40 00:02:18,319 --> 00:02:20,280 about the run for Senate, they do talk about his 41 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:26,159 relationship with the president, but he doesn't fully articulate why 42 00:02:26,199 --> 00:02:30,000 he believes he's a conservative. He was the only republic 43 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,400 i mean Rand Paul of the two Republicans that voted 44 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,240 against the Big Beautiful Bill or's the Democrats call it 45 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:42,919 the big Ugly bill. He talks about medicaid, you know, 46 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,560 the cuts in medicaid expansion. He doesn't articulate why. He 47 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,879 just says it's bad. He says he told the president 48 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,680 it to be his Obamacare. The irony there is that 49 00:02:51,879 --> 00:02:55,360 Obamacare was a massive expansion of government. This bill is 50 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,759 an attempt to contract government. So Tillis doesn't make that distinction. 51 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,680 He never makes the distinction, and he never discusses spending 52 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,639 in the thirty plus minute interview. He never discusses a 53 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,800 need to curtail government spending. He never juxtaposes rights or 54 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,840 anything like that. He's just concerned about medicaid and that, 55 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,439 you know, the expansion of medicaid. But beyond that, Tillis 56 00:03:16,479 --> 00:03:19,719 wants the audience to know that that he's a smart guy, 57 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,319 and he does this in a number of ways that 58 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,759 are interesting to watch if you're paying attention. He does 59 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:33,479 this by being very intellectual about very little. So his 60 00:03:33,479 --> 00:03:35,840 his main the main a couple of things. You walk 61 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:40,479 away from one. He's he plans to expose the amateurs 62 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,479 in Trump's circle, the advisors to the president that that 63 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,039 Tillis believes are bad advisors, and he wouldn't name them 64 00:03:48,199 --> 00:03:50,319 to Taper confronted him a couple of times, Hey, who 65 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,319 are these people? He says, all in due time, it's coming. 66 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:53,199 Speaker 3: It's coming. It's coming. 67 00:03:53,199 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: I probably he didn't say I promised, but he said 68 00:03:55,039 --> 00:03:59,879 it's coming. He also essentially throws all of the geop 69 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,439 he senators in the US Senate under the bus because 70 00:04:04,479 --> 00:04:07,960 he's the only one that solve the problems with the bill. Now, 71 00:04:08,039 --> 00:04:10,159 Ran Paul saw it, because you know, he's worried about 72 00:04:10,159 --> 00:04:14,479 it adding to the debt national debt. Tillis is concerned 73 00:04:14,479 --> 00:04:16,639 because they just didn't get it right. He doesn't go 74 00:04:16,639 --> 00:04:18,399 into a great detail about what that means, but he 75 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:21,120 read it, and he pondered on it, and he thought 76 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,040 about it. He and he just said, you know, I'm 77 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,240 just it's just not gonna be right. He has also 78 00:04:26,319 --> 00:04:30,079 he addressed people that he turned down Trump nominations. He 79 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,720 wishes now, even the day after the interview, he wishes 80 00:04:32,759 --> 00:04:35,000 he had turned down Pete hegg Seth. He thinks Pete 81 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,759 heggcept is not qualified to do the job and is 82 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,160 out of his depth. So, as you put the pieces 83 00:04:42,199 --> 00:04:44,639 of the Tillis interview together, what you realize is he 84 00:04:44,759 --> 00:04:46,600 thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. 85 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: Now, he's a smart guy. 86 00:04:48,519 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: No one's debating that. But he thinks he's smarter than 87 00:04:52,759 --> 00:04:57,439 the President, than North Carolinians, than the interviewer, than the 88 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,879 people who wrote the bill, the people who altered the bill, 89 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:00,519 the people. 90 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 3: Who voted on the bill. 91 00:05:01,639 --> 00:05:06,759 Speaker 2: He alone, he alone has the knowledge. He alone is 92 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,120 the keeper of great knowledge. He alone is the oracle, 93 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,800 the oracle not at Delphi, I guess Modernate, the oracle 94 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,759 of DC, the oracle of the Senate. I guess he 95 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,800 can be now because he's been removed from being on 96 00:05:19,079 --> 00:05:22,680 the whip team in the Senate. That happened very fast, 97 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,439 within twenty four hours of him being on Jake Tapper's interview. 98 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:31,839 He's removed from that capacity also, and Tapper continually kind 99 00:05:31,879 --> 00:05:32,680 of attacks Trump. 100 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: He can't help it. 101 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: There's something about certain journalists that they cannot remove. 102 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 3: And he's an experienced guy. 103 00:05:39,879 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: Even I'm aware if I'm going to interview a Democrat, 104 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,560 and I used to do that consistently, Democrats and Republicans. 105 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: I interviewed them all. 106 00:05:45,439 --> 00:05:47,399 Speaker 2: And one of the ways to get around your bias 107 00:05:47,439 --> 00:05:50,519 is to ask, especially if you're doing candidate interviews, ask 108 00:05:50,759 --> 00:05:53,959 candidates the same question, who you are, why are you running, 109 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,759 what do you believe in? Why do you believe you're 110 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,079 the best candidate for the job. Do everything you can 111 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,560 to not ask conservative liberal questions unless there's an issue 112 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:05,360 that's facing a community and they can express that, Like, 113 00:06:05,399 --> 00:06:07,959 for instance, in Charlotte, you would ask people about the 114 00:06:07,959 --> 00:06:10,079 transit system. We'll talk a little bit about that later. 115 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,959 And you can't ask questions about the transit system without 116 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,759 discussing the lack of ridership and the way this thing's 117 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,319 kind of still going down, the tubes continues to have 118 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:20,800 to be subsidized. You're getting ready to have a new 119 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,879 tax in Charlotte. Again, we'll talk about that. But Tillis 120 00:06:24,959 --> 00:06:28,800 does a really good job of just pontificating. And then 121 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,920 Tapper when they talk about the US Senate race next year, 122 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,600 which we talked about on this program. 123 00:06:33,639 --> 00:06:35,079 Speaker 3: We've discussed Roy Cooper, We've. 124 00:06:34,959 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: Discussed the Jeff Jackson, who's the attorney general for of 125 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,120 the state as Democrats. We discussed also a list of 126 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,399 potential Pat Harrigan, Laura Trump, we discussed some people that 127 00:06:45,519 --> 00:06:47,839 might be on the right. So what does Jake Tapper do, 128 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:51,040 with all the knowledge that's readily available to him, what 129 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,240 name do you think Jake Tapper throws out as the 130 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:55,680 potential nominee. 131 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: For the Republicans. 132 00:06:56,439 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: He throws out Mark Robinson, puts a picture of Mark 133 00:06:59,439 --> 00:07:02,199 on the screen and ask, you know, tell Us about 134 00:07:02,199 --> 00:07:04,439 Mark Robinson, and tell Us of course says, no, I 135 00:07:04,439 --> 00:07:06,240 would never endorse He's not going to be the nominee. 136 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: I won't endorse him. 137 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,519 Speaker 2: But but that was so what you The only two 138 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,959 pictures that Jake Tapper showed Tom tell Us about the 139 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,360 Senate race were Mark Robinson and Roy Cooper. The shiny 140 00:07:15,759 --> 00:07:20,600 Roy Cooper, the the unadulterated Roy Cooper, and then this 141 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,360 this horrible human being you know in Mark Robinson. That 142 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,319 that tell Us just hits it out of the parker now. 143 00:07:26,839 --> 00:07:28,680 But the point meant that if you want to see 144 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,600 a clear bias, that was a good example of it. 145 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,519 Tell Us also went on to point out multiple times, 146 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,079 you know about Trump, how he even was trying to 147 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,639 They tried to bait tell Us into saying something negative 148 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:45,079 about the president other than being smarter than the president, 149 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,000 is that he would show Trump's tweets. Jake Tapper Wood 150 00:07:49,079 --> 00:07:50,759 to tell Us, and tell Us was just say, hey, 151 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,199 we disagree on that issue and gloss over it. But 152 00:07:54,399 --> 00:07:58,079 clearly tell Us knew he was not going to walk 153 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,879 through the primary next year, and he acted like he 154 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,040 did this so he could elevate himself. And the truth 155 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,959 of the matter is his vote on the bill silled 156 00:08:05,959 --> 00:08:07,839 his fate. He wasn't going to run for Senate. It 157 00:08:07,879 --> 00:08:10,079 was a fade, a complete He did it to himself, 158 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,040 or maybe he knew he wasn't going to win and 159 00:08:12,079 --> 00:08:14,240 he just decided to declare war on Trump. 160 00:08:14,439 --> 00:08:14,879 Speaker 3: I don't know. 161 00:08:15,439 --> 00:08:18,079 Speaker 2: Nonetheless, it's a very striking interview if you get a 162 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,519 chance to watch it, watch it. Like I said, he's 163 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,800 amazingly poised, polished, calm, but the arrogance does come across 164 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,279 that he's the smartest Republican in DC or maybe ever anywhere, 165 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:30,959 and that comes across. 166 00:08:31,079 --> 00:08:33,759 Speaker 1: Here's a great idea. 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I mean, moving a lot and 196 00:10:07,639 --> 00:10:11,159 having brothers and big family and the work ethic and 197 00:10:11,159 --> 00:10:14,039 stuff like that. But it's a good interview if you 198 00:10:14,159 --> 00:10:18,399 listen to it and you're not that astute politically. You know, 199 00:10:18,639 --> 00:10:21,120 he comes across as very reasonable and salient. I'm not 200 00:10:21,159 --> 00:10:23,159 going to say he doesn't. That's one of the marks 201 00:10:23,159 --> 00:10:25,559 of his traits. His pragmatism is how he became the 202 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,120 north kind of House speaker, because it's not you know, 203 00:10:28,159 --> 00:10:31,279 he ran against a hardcore conservative and he defeated that conservative, 204 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:33,440 and he's never been. He wants to tell you he is, 205 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:38,039 but his voting record is not overly conservative. So moving forward, 206 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,840 they didn't ask about immigration, they didn't ask about the border, 207 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:44,120 they didn't ask about you know, NATO, they didn't ask 208 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,279 about a lot of the big things. It was mainly 209 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:51,200 about the bill, him deciding not to run a little 210 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,200 bit he you know, him defending himself and attacks on 211 00:10:55,279 --> 00:10:59,159 Republicans by Jake Tapper. Now after this, so I don't 212 00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:02,159 know if it was late last night, afternoon, California is 213 00:11:02,159 --> 00:11:04,799 an different time zone. There was a massive ICE raid 214 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,159 and it was the name of the place is just 215 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:13,759 still gets me. You know, this look of glass farms. 216 00:11:14,039 --> 00:11:15,440 Let me see if I get the name. The name 217 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,000 of it just caught me off guard when I was 218 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,200 reading through the story and all the details. So what 219 00:11:19,279 --> 00:11:22,879 happened in California was that ICE executed a search warrant 220 00:11:22,919 --> 00:11:26,080 on a platform out in California the you know, and 221 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,279 so they went out. I guess it's a legal platform, 222 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,240 so it's not that. But went through the midst of this, 223 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:36,639 it became like a battleground, you know, and and there 224 00:11:36,639 --> 00:11:38,759 were people that were confronting the ICE agents. They were 225 00:11:38,759 --> 00:11:42,320 attacking the ICE agents. It turned into a four hour 226 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,320 standoff and it and you know it, it was really bad. 227 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,360 What happened in California is just another example of protesters 228 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,080 becoming criminals. And they've been emboldened by members of Congress 229 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,039 who compare ICE members to Nazis and racists and terrorists. 230 00:11:55,279 --> 00:11:58,919 Said Tom Holman. Borders are earlier today on Fox News. 231 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,960 This is from the New York Post. Host I said 232 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,799 months ago it's going to end with a loss of life, 233 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,399 and we had one the other day in Texas. And 234 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,039 it's not over, he said, referring to the gunmen who 235 00:12:08,039 --> 00:12:10,279 opened fire on Border patrol agents walking into work in 236 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,960 McCallen on Monday, Immigration agents who descended on glass House farms, 237 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,279 and we'll talk about that in a minute. In the 238 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,240 city of Camarillo, one of the biggest cannabis farms in 239 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,360 southern California, one of the largest in the nation by 240 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,120 the way, were met by dozens of demonstrators gathered on 241 00:12:25,159 --> 00:12:27,720 a road between fields, where the uniformed officers stood in 242 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,159 the line across from them. A military style helicopter flew 243 00:12:31,279 --> 00:12:35,759 overhead as the melee ensued. Protesters shouted screeched until agents 244 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,519 used canisters with an unknown substance and fired less than 245 00:12:40,759 --> 00:12:43,960 lethal rounds, forcing the protesters to retreat. Several of the 246 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,120 protesters through what appeared to be rocks at the officers. 247 00:12:47,639 --> 00:12:50,200 As they retreated, a mask man in black appeared to 248 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,600 to let off a few actual gun rounds among a 249 00:12:53,639 --> 00:12:56,279 crowd of other protesters trying to get away. The FBI 250 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,559 has now launched an investigation into the shooter, who was 251 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,919 all caught on film, and is offering a ward of 252 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,519 fifty thousand for information. The clash lasted for four hours 253 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,000 as US Customs and Border Patrols set up a blockade, 254 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,919 military style vehicles, and a pastoral region. This scene was 255 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,039 just an unreal as that the Left is now based 256 00:13:15,159 --> 00:13:19,279 between apps and letting people know they're trying to create 257 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:24,039 these massive confrontations. US Border patrol people are doing their jobs, 258 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,559 by the way, they aren't shooting people. They aren't and 259 00:13:27,879 --> 00:13:30,000 they're trying to do their jobs. This is where it 260 00:13:30,039 --> 00:13:33,000 gets even weirder. So five people went to the hospital, 261 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,320 a number of folks were picked up. The farm is 262 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,600 now under investigation. So what gets interesting is they picked 263 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:46,919 up ten kids. Ten kids, eight of whom were unaccompanied 264 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,399 by an adult, two of whom were working the pot farm. 265 00:13:50,799 --> 00:13:55,240 So you have kids, illegal, undocumented folks working a pot farm. 266 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,960 The political left is screaming about all this stuff that 267 00:13:58,039 --> 00:14:00,480 was horrible, But yet we had the by the way, 268 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,639 we had thirty thousand kids without documentation that came into 269 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:07,679 the country, had no no family know nothing the Biden 270 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,840 administration while it went on. They've since located that are missing. 271 00:14:10,879 --> 00:14:12,679 By the way, thirty thousand kids that are missing, they've 272 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,039 located ten thousand of those and helped reunite them with 273 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,799 their family. Not much of a news story, but Homan 274 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:22,159 has discussed this. But still ten kids picked up. So 275 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,080 they're working the pot farm. And who's running the pot farm? 276 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:26,679 Speaker 3: You know? 277 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: They insist, Oh, we're doing everything legal, but you rounded 278 00:14:29,159 --> 00:14:31,759 up a bunch of people that weren't supposed to be there, 279 00:14:31,879 --> 00:14:35,039 including ten kids, eight of whom didn't even have an 280 00:14:35,039 --> 00:14:39,080 adult with them. Gavin Newsom then went after So after this, 281 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,600 Gavin Newsom goes after the president and said, you know 282 00:14:41,639 --> 00:14:45,320 when she references President Trump's newscomb nickname, and he calls 283 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,799 the President the real scum for doing this. And then 284 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,879 DHS responds to Newsom who says, why are their children 285 00:14:51,919 --> 00:14:55,480 working at a marijuana facility? Governor care to answer that 286 00:14:57,039 --> 00:15:00,639 this is And it's so weird because both sides feel 287 00:15:00,679 --> 00:15:03,639 that they're completely justifying the way they're feeling. The Democrats 288 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:05,240 do not want to talk about the kids working in 289 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:07,360 the field. They don't want to talk about illegals that 290 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:08,240 are there. 291 00:15:08,279 --> 00:15:08,639 Speaker 3: Working it. 292 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: They only want to talk about why are you doing 293 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,399 this is going to hurt our farms? You had kids 294 00:15:12,399 --> 00:15:15,440 working at a pot farm. It's not cool. It's not 295 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,399 good at all. We were not not even talking about 296 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,039 human trafficking, not even talking about the drug cartels, not 297 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:26,039 even talking about all the other grift and illegal activities 298 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,919 and gang operations, the trend to aguas and MS thirteen's 299 00:15:28,919 --> 00:15:31,600 and all these others that are present in our society 300 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:34,000 across North Carolina too. Don't don't think just because it 301 00:15:34,039 --> 00:15:40,320 happened in California, it's an absolute mess that was avoidable. 302 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,159 This is a mess created by the folks that were 303 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,720 previously in office that didn't seem to care. Still, glasshouse farms, 304 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,679 that's ironic. People who live in glasshouses that shouldn't throw rocks. 305 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,759 And yet that's how the protesters did. They threw nothing 306 00:15:52,759 --> 00:15:57,399 but rocks at ice agents. The standoff drue widespread criticism, 307 00:15:57,879 --> 00:16:02,200 and it should have, including Governor US Congressman Salud Carrajal, 308 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,159 who was denied entry when he tried to get past federal. 309 00:16:04,919 --> 00:16:05,639 Speaker 3: Agents into the farm. 310 00:16:05,639 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: Why would a congressman want to again, they the congressman 311 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:11,159 wanted to get in to either feel the effects of 312 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,639 the tear gas or whatever was use. He wanted to 313 00:16:12,679 --> 00:16:14,480 get shot with the rubber, but he wanted to get 314 00:16:14,519 --> 00:16:17,519 on video. He wanted to gain attention. He couldn't get it. 315 00:16:18,039 --> 00:16:21,639 Newsom's office accused President Trump's advisor Stephen Miller of sparking 316 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:26,000 terror in local communities. There's a real cost to these 317 00:16:26,039 --> 00:16:31,200 inhumane immigration actions on hard working families and communities. Instead 318 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,919 of that's what Newsom's office said, Instead of supporting the 319 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,360 businesses and workers that drive our economy away of life, 320 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,159 Stephen Miller's tactics evoke chaos, fhear. 321 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,879 Speaker 3: And terror within our communities. The every turn. 322 00:16:42,159 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: Again governor knew some why are children working at a 323 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:53,279 pot farm? Crickets? Nothing, no response? And one of the 324 00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:56,639 problems with this, and I have several friends who who 325 00:16:56,879 --> 00:17:00,639 are in this issue, meaning it's kind of fascinate. They 326 00:17:00,679 --> 00:17:02,399 think that, you know, the Republicans are going to rue 327 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,279 the day they did this, because all the immigrants are 328 00:17:04,279 --> 00:17:06,720 going to turn on. But actually legal illegal immigrants are 329 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,119 actually completely in favor of what's going on right now. 330 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,160 They work too hard to get ahead to let other 331 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,319 people move to the front of the line. 332 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: They don't like it. 333 00:17:14,559 --> 00:17:17,559 Speaker 2: Those numbers are bearing out that more and more. There 334 00:17:17,599 --> 00:17:20,200 was even a woman that was picked up in Louisiana, 335 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,960 I think in a front yard. She'd been many years. 336 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,480 She actually has regular meetings. She got picked up and 337 00:17:25,519 --> 00:17:27,240 put in jail for much she shouldn't have been. This 338 00:17:27,319 --> 00:17:30,279 was a terrible story and knew enough people. I guess 339 00:17:30,319 --> 00:17:32,400 Steve Scalice got involved and got her out. And you 340 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,039 would think that would be a one person that would 341 00:17:34,039 --> 00:17:35,799 turn against all this, and she's like, no, She's still 342 00:17:35,799 --> 00:17:38,920 one hundred percent supports because she knows that there's so 343 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,359 many people here that shouldn't be here. 344 00:17:40,799 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: She got it. 345 00:17:41,279 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: I mean, she had every reason in the world to say, 346 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,920 you guys are wrong, this screwed things up, but she didn't. 347 00:17:47,799 --> 00:17:51,000 So moving into the subject when I've got friends that 348 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,440 are on the other side of this issue from me, 349 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,039 they're in the entirety of their perspective, is that all 350 00:17:56,079 --> 00:17:58,000 of all And again you hear me use the word 351 00:17:58,039 --> 00:18:00,160 all in the use of the word some, they would say, 352 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,160 all of the people here are innocent people that are 353 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,759 just trying to make their lives better. They're just trying 354 00:18:05,759 --> 00:18:08,920 to make it better. They're running our businesses are farms 355 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,519 they're running, you know, and that's kind of an elite attitude. 356 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,640 First of all, let those poor people work all the 357 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,799 low entry jobs. But the means you're also encouraging businesses 358 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:20,240 to hire people that they should be hiring. 359 00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:21,799 Speaker 3: So there's that. 360 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 2: But they continue to think all these people are innocent. 361 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,039 And when you remind them, say, hey, in a stay 362 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,640 up the size of North Carolina, ten plus million people, 363 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,680 how many bad guys do we have? We have a lot. 364 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,079 So in a population of ten million eleven million that 365 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,240 have come across the border, we don't know who they are. 366 00:18:37,279 --> 00:18:39,119 At least here we kind of can find out who 367 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,039 people are. You don't know who these people are, you 368 00:18:41,039 --> 00:18:43,119 don't know where they're staying. And you know that there's 369 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,279 some bad people in these very bad murderers, rapists, human traffickers, 370 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,920 horrible human beings that have been picked up and released 371 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,440 multiple times in this country. It is it's not an 372 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,839 all or some. There are some horrible people. And that's 373 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,119 what the thrust of Ice right now is really trying 374 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:58,440 to get at. 375 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,519 Speaker 3: The folks that are not so good should be. 376 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: Here all right. If you're listening to this show, you know, 377 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,720 I try to keep up with all sorts of current events, 378 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,799 and I know you do too, and you've probably heard 379 00:19:06,799 --> 00:19:10,880 me say get your news from multiple sources. Why Well, 380 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,640 because it's how you detect media bias, which is why 381 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,880 I've been so impressed with ground News. It's an app 382 00:19:17,079 --> 00:19:20,240 and it's a website and it combines news from around 383 00:19:20,279 --> 00:19:22,720 the world in one place so you can compare coverage 384 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,680 and verify information. 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Your subscription 395 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,400 then not only helps it's my podcast, but it also 396 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,200 supports ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. 397 00:20:06,039 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: So the joke over the break was you're never too 398 00:20:08,519 --> 00:20:12,759 young to work at a weed farm in Gavin Newsom's California. 399 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,359 I just thought that was hysterical. You're never too young 400 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,839 to work at a weed plant in Gaven Newsom's California. 401 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,519 They should put that on a billboard. You know, Hey, 402 00:20:21,559 --> 00:20:23,920 bring your family here, your kids can work on a 403 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,519 weed farm. It would be funny. At least it would 404 00:20:27,559 --> 00:20:31,079 be funny to me, because well, that's the way I 405 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,839 am now. A couple of things I wanted to get to, 406 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,759 and this is it's kind of local, but I was 407 00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:39,319 reading it from a national perspective, and then as I 408 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,519 was doing the research, I thought, you know, this is 409 00:20:41,519 --> 00:20:47,200 the typical everywhere you go. Light rail systems. Mass transit 410 00:20:47,319 --> 00:20:50,400 is boring, un sexy topic. I know. But Charlotte, you guys, 411 00:20:50,599 --> 00:20:54,000 you're getting ready to have another tax, another penny or 412 00:20:54,039 --> 00:20:56,720 something like that to help support your transit system. Your 413 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,240 taxes are going up to give you less service for 414 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,240 a product that not as many people use. And this 415 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,200 isn't just unique to Charlotte. I think Charlotte has envy 416 00:21:07,319 --> 00:21:09,920 Atlanta envy. So the mayor and a bunch of others 417 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,119 want to be more like Atlanta and Charlotte's some beautiful 418 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,400 city doesn't need to have Atlanta, and it's a great place, 419 00:21:15,519 --> 00:21:17,319 could be could be made better if it quit trying 420 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,119 to chase chase its tail and waste money on frivolous 421 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,960 projects that go nowhere. There are nearly three thousand transit 422 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,440 systems in the United States. Four years ago, the federal 423 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,759 government met it out and gave away three or thirty 424 00:21:28,799 --> 00:21:32,359 billion in pandemic transit aid, saving many of them from 425 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,559 shutting down completely. At the same time, operators large and 426 00:21:35,599 --> 00:21:38,559 small warned again and again and again that the COVID 427 00:21:38,559 --> 00:21:40,559 funds would eventually run out before they knew it and 428 00:21:40,599 --> 00:21:43,359 send agencies right off the edge of a fiscal cliff 429 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:49,599 again with devastating consequences. Transit officials warnings never changed. More recently, 430 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,519 the volume of those warnings have been turned up in 431 00:21:51,599 --> 00:21:54,759 ear splitting levels, but the complaints of the riding public 432 00:21:54,839 --> 00:21:57,440 deprived of bus, subway, commuter rail, and pair of transit 433 00:21:57,519 --> 00:22:00,400 rides are drawing them out. With federal funding bla locked 434 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,720 by a right wing White House in Congress, transit agencies 435 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,920 are calling for state funding to prop up public transportation. 436 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 3: You see that here in. 437 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,759 Speaker 2: Charlotte as well, money that is usually in short supply 438 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,160 in state capitals across the country. That means the conversation 439 00:22:14,279 --> 00:22:17,720 is all about either radical austerity or fiscal innovation. What 440 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:18,960 does that look like. 441 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 3: So let's look at Philadelphia first. We'll get to Charlotte 442 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:22,440 in a second. 443 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 2: At the end of June. This is this is how 444 00:22:24,519 --> 00:22:30,200 bad transit systems get. And it's buses pay the price. 445 00:22:30,319 --> 00:22:33,119 But buses actually, if you added bus routes, you can 446 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,359 move those to where people would write things. The truth 447 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,400 of the matter with transit in Charlotte and everywhere else, 448 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,960 it has not returned to pre pandemic ridership. In fact, 449 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,160 that even returned to some of the pre pandemic pre 450 00:22:44,279 --> 00:22:48,799 pre pre like years ago ridership levels. The Southeastern Pennsylvania 451 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:53,440 Transportation Authority, the country's sixth largest transit agency, unveiled its 452 00:22:53,559 --> 00:22:56,960 radical austerity fix for a two hundred and thirteen billion 453 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:57,680 dollar deficit. 454 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:58,319 Speaker 3: Think about that. 455 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 2: The entire budget for the state of North Carolina is 456 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,200 twenty seven billion, thirty billions awre in that range, they 457 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,359 have a two hundred and thirteen billion dollars deficit just 458 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,039 with their transit system. That translates into a series of 459 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,640 rolling cuts in August, September and next January of forty 460 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,680 five percent service reduction across all modes. A total of 461 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,640 fifty bus routes are going to be cut, beginning with 462 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,039 thirty two lines by the end of August. Subway and 463 00:23:20,079 --> 00:23:22,920 regional service would end at nine pm every single night. 464 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:27,000 Forget about free parking at their transit lots. Managers would 465 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,799 see pay freeze as no new higher shedding outside consultants. 466 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,240 In September, city transit riders would get hit with a 467 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,319 fair increase of almost three dollars a twenty one percent high. 468 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,039 Philly would share honors with New York for the highest 469 00:23:38,079 --> 00:23:40,599 bus and subway fares in the country. That's after a 470 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,640 seven percent increase last year. Among the serious problems gnawing 471 00:23:44,759 --> 00:23:48,680 in Philadelphia is its failure to regain pre pandemic ridership levels. 472 00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:53,240 Those aren't coming back, folks, They're just not among commuters. 473 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,119 How when and where people work, as well as how 474 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,119 they view coming in and out of city, affects their 475 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,480 transportation decisions. There is also some appreciation about personal safety. 476 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,240 People from the suburbs prior to the pandemic would take transit, 477 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,400 come in, do a late night orchestra event or a show, 478 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,519 and now they're deciding not to do those things. They 479 00:24:10,599 --> 00:24:13,400 just don't want to do them. And if you look 480 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,519 at whether it's in Philadelphia, you're looking at Pennsylvania, you're 481 00:24:16,519 --> 00:24:20,519 looking Pittsburgh, it's all the same when you look. So 482 00:24:20,559 --> 00:24:23,039 I was looking at Charlotte's. What do Charlotte' numbers look like? 483 00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: Now? 484 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,839 Speaker 2: The story ran last February, but it's a continual problem 485 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,519 for the city of Charlotte. The Charlotte Area transit systems ridership. 486 00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:34,519 This is from news reports back then, back in February, 487 00:24:34,599 --> 00:24:38,279 so it's not changed. The Charlotte Area transit systems ridership 488 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,960 increased by nearly eleven percent in twenty twenty four compared 489 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,880 to the prior year, but the number of people writing 490 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,839 it is still far lower than it was a decade ago. Now, 491 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:51,240 think about Charlotte's grown. The number of people write a 492 00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:55,720 transit less Kats carried fifteen point seven million passenger trips 493 00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:58,119 last year as it worked to bounce back from the coronavirus. 494 00:24:58,319 --> 00:25:01,559 Fifteen point seven million. That's not unique writers, by the way, 495 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,160 So if you were to take that the large proponners 496 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,880 that are the people who write it the same every day, 497 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,279 they're not because they don't want to talk about unique writers. 498 00:25:09,319 --> 00:25:11,240 If you ever ask them, how many unique writers do 499 00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:15,799 you have? It's dismal. So the increase over twenty twenty 500 00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:18,119 three is likely due to more people returning to work 501 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,000 in the office, But overall ridership is still sixty five 502 00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:26,200 percent from pre pandemic levels in twenty nineteen, and it's 503 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,519 only a little more than half of what it was 504 00:25:28,599 --> 00:25:33,279 in twenty thirteen. And again, the story and the way 505 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,359 the news media writes it is where more than twenty 506 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,279 nine people wrote it in twenty thirteen. 507 00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:37,799 Speaker 3: No, they didn't. 508 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 2: There were twenty nine million fares. Doesn't mean twenty nine 509 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,240 million people came into Charlotte wrote the transit. 510 00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:44,759 Speaker 3: They didn't. 511 00:25:45,559 --> 00:25:49,519 Speaker 2: So this is a problem that is haunting Charlotte into 512 00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:52,440 which Charlotte will sink an endless amount of money and 513 00:25:52,519 --> 00:25:55,359 subsidize and continue doing what all of them are doing. 514 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,200 They're all losing money. People are not writing them. There's 515 00:25:58,279 --> 00:26:01,000 more stay at home. The digital economy, the gig economy, 516 00:26:01,079 --> 00:26:04,240 is changing the way people work. It's changing the way 517 00:26:04,279 --> 00:26:07,759 people do entertainment. It's changing so many things. Think about 518 00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:09,839 your own life, how many times do you go out 519 00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:11,720 as much and how many of you are willing that 520 00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:14,039 are listening to this broadcast, are willing to hop on 521 00:26:14,759 --> 00:26:17,599 a trainer or bus to go somewhere. You're just not 522 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,359 in survey. When we used to do these surveys, when 523 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,599 I was at the Lock Foundation, what you found was 524 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,680 a lot of people love the idea of transit. 525 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,319 Speaker 3: Love it great, wonder we'll do it? 526 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 2: Do it? Do it? Do it? You say, were you 527 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,519 gonna write it? No, no, we just want to get 528 00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:30,920 all the other cars off the road so we'll have 529 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,880 the road. It's good for thee, not for me. It's 530 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,319 that sense of humor that people have. So Charlotte is 531 00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:41,119 hoping to pass a one cent sales tax increase that'll 532 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,839 expand the bus system and build new rate rail transit 533 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,359 lines that even more people won't write. So you're gonna 534 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,799 so this is funny. You're not to pre pandemic levels. 535 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,039 You're less than half of what you were in twenty thirteen. 536 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 3: And what do you do? 537 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 2: Most people in business would say, you know something's going 538 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,400 on here, we have a problem. No, that's not what 539 00:26:58,519 --> 00:27:00,480 Charlotte does. Charlotte says, you know what, we don't have 540 00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:03,000 as many poper writing, so we're gonna build more. We're 541 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,599 gonna build more stuff that people already are choosing not 542 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,400 to be a part of, and we're going to raise. 543 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,279 Speaker 3: Your taxes to do it. Yay, we're genius. 544 00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: What a novel idea. Imagine if every business did that, 545 00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:16,720 we'd have a lot more bankruptcies now. But govern doesn't bankrupt, 546 00:27:16,759 --> 00:27:19,160 it tries to bankrupt you. That sounded terrible, did it? 547 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,039 I didn't mean for it to sound so bad. You know. 548 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: Stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, 549 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,079 to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of 550 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,440 our past while transcending generations. They help us process the 551 00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:33,920 meaning of life, and our stories are told through images 552 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,799 and videos. Preserve your stories with Creative Video. Started in 553 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,599 nineteen ninety seven and Mint Hill, North Carolina. 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They 563 00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:16,640 are your life told through the eyes of everyone around 564 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,920 you and all who came before you, and they will 565 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,319 tell others to come who you are. Visit creative video 566 00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:23,799 dot com. 567 00:28:23,839 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: There's a lot of interconnected We live in a dynamic 568 00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:29,799 world where it's a butterfly effect across many spectrums in 569 00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:33,200 which one subject matter effects another subject matter effects another. 570 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 3: It kind of comes full circle. 571 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,599 Speaker 2: And that's you know, when the Democrats try to say 572 00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:39,440 the Big Beautiful Bill is going to destroy the world, 573 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,119 it's the the unintended consequences. They try to say it's 574 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,400 direct and in fact, their screed lately has been it's 575 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,720 just going to kill people. You know, USA idea, if 576 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,240 you got it, it's going to kill people. If you 577 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,240 pass the Big Beautiful Bill, it's just gonna kill people. 578 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,480 Climate change, Oh my god, it's just gonna kill people. 579 00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:56,920 It's a very simple way to say, I guess it's 580 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,400 the ultimate way to fear, to instill fear that and 581 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,359 making you talk in public. You know, Hey, the Big 582 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,039 Beautiful Bill is going to make all of you give 583 00:29:04,079 --> 00:29:07,599 a speech in public that's very terrifying, so people don't 584 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,480 want to. It's just going to kill people every everything 585 00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:13,839 that it's so funny the reaction. It should it should 586 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,279 be that simple, shouldn't it. 587 00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 3: It's just going to kill people. It's just don't don't worry. 588 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,319 Speaker 2: Every everything that Trump wants to do is just designed 589 00:29:20,519 --> 00:29:22,759 to kill people. And you get tired of hearing it 590 00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:25,039 after a while you're like, wait a minute, it's just 591 00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:28,839 not true, not not directly, not ostensibly, it's just not 592 00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:31,799 in fact, even when they attacked Iran to everything they 593 00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:35,119 could to not kill people, destroyed the nuclear facilities. 594 00:29:35,759 --> 00:29:40,079 Speaker 3: Now on that front, and. 595 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: A couple of things. One you remember it wasn't that 596 00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:47,160 long ago. Remember we were all going to get bird flu. 597 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,240 That was the big threat. You know, hey, you know 598 00:29:50,359 --> 00:29:53,039 whatever the bird flu. It's a you know, bird flu 599 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,079 H five N one avian influenza. You know it's it's 600 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,240 gonna it's wiping out bird stocks. 601 00:29:58,319 --> 00:30:00,559 Speaker 3: Look at chicken. It's contributing to egg prices. 602 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,319 Speaker 2: When you find it, your chickens, you got to kill 603 00:30:02,359 --> 00:30:04,359 all your chickens, your ducks, your geese, whatever you got 604 00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:05,720 you got to kill them all they're can kill them, 605 00:30:05,759 --> 00:30:08,599 so spread to humans, it's going to be a problem. 606 00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:10,720 And when's the last time you heard anything about that. 607 00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:13,359 It's a great story over at Real Clear Science today 608 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,960 about it. From the onset outset of the Trump administration, 609 00:30:16,119 --> 00:30:20,480 bird flu has flown rather conspicuously under the radar, so 610 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,200 much so that this week the CDC announced the end 611 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,720 of its emergency response to bird flu, citing a lack 612 00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:30,440 of reported human cases. Remember, even my sister had written 613 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,079 me about this. At the end of twenty twenty four, 614 00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:35,759 infections in the Unite US were surging from Ohio to California. 615 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,039 Diagnosises were being made, and growing numbers of farm workers 616 00:30:39,079 --> 00:30:42,880 who came into contact with infected cattle and poultry low 617 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,640 grade fever, muscle eggs, inflammation. As cases swelled, and older 618 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,119 man in Louisiana fel critically ill, he would eventually become 619 00:30:49,119 --> 00:30:51,519 the first person in the US to die from the 620 00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:55,480 virus since initial human cases were reported in nineteen ninety seven. 621 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,400 We seem then, for a moment, to be on the 622 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,599 tipping point, bound to unleash. Then it's going to be 623 00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:04,160 the next pandemic, And yet none of it happened. Since February, 624 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,640 the CDC, which still monitors everything, has not recorded a 625 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,599 single new case in the US. Stuck at seventy. Rationalizing 626 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,400 the lull and infections has been puzzling. Researchers have tried 627 00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:19,039 have tied the wild birds, the virus's largest reservoir, and 628 00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:21,799 their spring and fall migrations to periods of great spread 629 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,279 cuts to staff who monitor the virus, that the Department 630 00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:27,960 of Agriculture and the Center for Veterinary Medicine might also 631 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,160 be playing a role. But these ideas dismissed the deeper 632 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,519 and more fundamental problem around our grasp of bird flu 633 00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:38,400 as an infectious disease physicians who work primarily with immigrant populations. 634 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,480 The author's perspective often sits at the nexus between the 635 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,480 people of a novel disease and how it affects them 636 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,559 and the apparatuses that exist to control it. But they say, 637 00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:51,119 maybe we're missing things, maybe it's flying under the radar. 638 00:31:51,319 --> 00:31:55,119 But the truth of the matter is it's not that bad. 639 00:31:56,559 --> 00:31:59,319 But here's I want to step from that to another thing. 640 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,000 Because we do have eleven million undocumented people best estimate, 641 00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:06,279 even even your AI searches will tell you that in 642 00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:08,799 the country. We do know that we've had a massive 643 00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:12,559 surge of measles in Canada and Mexico. Now, in fact, 644 00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:15,039 we have a couple of deaths in Mexico or yeah, 645 00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:17,559 and now we have a surge in the US. So 646 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,119 there are unintended consequence. People say, there are numerous stories 647 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,319 that are trying to say, no, that's not true. It 648 00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:26,200 didn't come from But those are populations that are largely 649 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,680 unimmunized against measles, and now they're mixing with our population. 650 00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:34,279 Measles cases in the United States have reached their highest 651 00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:38,400 number in more than thirty years. According to new federal data, 652 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,319 there have been one two hundred and eighty eight confirmed 653 00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:45,839 cases of measles across thirty eight states in the country, 654 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,279 according to the CDC. By comparison, the US only recorded 655 00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:53,160 two hundred and eighty five cases all last year. That's 656 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,640 the highest number since ninety two. I think it's, unfortunately 657 00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,680 just the beginning, said doctor Hotez, professor of pediatrics molecular 658 00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:03,799 Virology at Baylor University in Texas. I think things are 659 00:33:03,799 --> 00:33:06,680 going to continue to get worse in terms of childhood illnesses, 660 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,519 and I'm quite worried that we're seeing in the US. 661 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,279 It's not going to stay in the US. But by 662 00:33:11,319 --> 00:33:15,519 the way, you do have cases in other countries. In fact, 663 00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:19,599 the CNN, even CNN has reported this in Mexico and Canada, 664 00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:23,920 looking at the Pan American Organization, so that Canada Mexico 665 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,279 over fifteen hundred cases there. And again, when you don't 666 00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:31,680 have immigration, when you don't have control of what's happening 667 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,960 in your country, you have trouble understanding what's happening in 668 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,200 your populations. You don't know there could be a much 669 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,519 deadlier virus. I'm not saying there is. Don't say Chad's 670 00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:45,000 saying the migrants are bringing the next abola into the country. 671 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,920 Not the point being if you did have that, you 672 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,680 wouldn't know. That's one of the things. One of the 673 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,559 horrible things about the AIDS pandemic that by the way, 674 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,960 is still ongoing, was that in the beginning, no one 675 00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:00,720 knew about the HIV. They never didn't know about it 676 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,599 Human immuno deficiency virus, they didn't know about it. And 677 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,839 so the beauty of that virus from a scientific standpoint 678 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,480 is that it had a latency period that could be 679 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,239 six months to a year, so by the time you 680 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,920 had spread the virus to multiple people was long before 681 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,239 you showed in symptoms or anyone knew you had it. 682 00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:19,880 So that's why it spreads so rapidly. A virus like 683 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,719 ebola spreads extremely rapidly. It spreads in a given community once. 684 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,679 If you were to get in a supermarket, everybody would 685 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,519 get sick and be close to death within seventy two hours. 686 00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 3: It'd be very rapid. These horrible fevers. 687 00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:34,559 Speaker 2: We have one in this country called the hantavirus, which 688 00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:37,400 is in the desert southwest. These virus is spread so 689 00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:40,199 quickly that it's hard to get into a large population. 690 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,639 That's why you see it contained to these small African villages. 691 00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:44,679 But nonetheless, I'm not trying to get deep in the 692 00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:47,400 weeds of viology. It's just a fascination I have. Among 693 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,480 the nationally confirmed cases, the CDC said it ninety two 694 00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:54,000 percent are among people who are unvaccinated whose vaccination. 695 00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 3: SATs is unknown. We're talking about the measles. 696 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 2: Four percent of cases are among those who received just 697 00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:01,559 windows of the MMR vaccine, in four percent of those 698 00:35:01,559 --> 00:35:02,800 who receive two doses. 699 00:35:03,039 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 3: So Texas, this is interesting. 700 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,599 Speaker 2: Texas the number one state where you're most likely to 701 00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:10,880 get me is over seven hundred cases in Texas, if 702 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,679 it's followed by New Mexico, Kansas, Colorado, Oklahoma, California. Again, 703 00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:21,679 states that have a large influx of Hispanics and excuse me, 704 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,159 that sounds terrible, a large influx of illegals from other 705 00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:28,119 countries that came across the Mexican border. And so to 706 00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:30,760 think is it possible that it came across the border 707 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,280 and that's the nexus of the spread. A lot of 708 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,599 people on the left want to downplay that. They don't 709 00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:38,239 want to because that would be yet another problem for 710 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,559 them as they defended an open border and now we 711 00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:45,119 have a population that's not really doing so well with it. 712 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,159 Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you 713 00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:51,199 so much for listening. I could not do the show 714 00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:53,719 without your support and the support of the businesses that 715 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,920 advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support 716 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,599 them too and tell them you heard it here. 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