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<v Speaker 1>This is made. The promises kept. Politicians won't do. Join

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<v Speaker 1>us in the chat cost out a politician and I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. If we five cars the talk station.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven o six at forty five krs DE talk station

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<v Speaker 2>A very happy Friday Eve Flash Thursday to you Got

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<v Speaker 2>to Heart be the aviation. Next for Jay Raffle of

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<v Speaker 2>A thirty Corey Bowman's going to join the program in

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<v Speaker 2>one hour telephone. This time. He won't be in studio,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're going to get his comments about the debate

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<v Speaker 2>and his campaign seems to be doing pretty well by

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<v Speaker 2>all accounts, and someone knows all about that. Our citizen watchdog,

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<v Speaker 2>Todd Zinzer, former Inspector General, is in studio. Todd Man,

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<v Speaker 2>it's always a pleasure. You know so much about what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on in the city of Cincinnati. It just cracks

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<v Speaker 2>me up. A couple of story as you talked about

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<v Speaker 2>as you came in the in the studio this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>you have got me laughing, and we're gonna get to those.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna keep that information under wraps, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>good to have you in the studio. Mike Ran, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for what you're doing. Oh and real quick, I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to interject, because cribbage, Mike, My listeners know cribbage.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike's guy I played cribbage with. He was a submariner.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for your service to our country, but also

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<v Speaker 2>for passing this along. If you're gonna go to the parade,

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<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be something extra special going on. Mike. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me know that he along with his local submarine veterans,

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be in the opening day parade with

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<v Speaker 2>the thirty foot replica of the United USS Cincinnati sub

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<v Speaker 2>and he noted that the actual parts of the decommission

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<v Speaker 2>in the USS Cincinnati will be the centerpiece of the

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<v Speaker 2>Cold War Memorial and Museum at the Voice of America Park.

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<v Speaker 2>So keep your eyes peeled for that, and give him

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<v Speaker 2>a big round of applause and thank those guys for

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<v Speaker 2>the amazing service for our country. Can you imagine being

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<v Speaker 2>stuck in that tin can underwater for I think he

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<v Speaker 2>said his longest was fifty seven days or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Tough job. That is tough job, Toms Enzers got keep

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<v Speaker 2>it on top of all the fraud, waste and abuse

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<v Speaker 2>in Shenanigans going on. Let us begin with have to

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<v Speaker 2>have provol Okay, we'll get to the debate and your

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<v Speaker 2>perception of the debate a little bit later in the segment.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me tell my listeners about the complaint that's

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<v Speaker 2>been filed, because I think we have what is rightfully

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<v Speaker 2>called a Shenanigan's declaration in the form of a lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's a complaint to the Ohio Election Commission.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, okay, Oh, you see.

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<v Speaker 3>Filed by Kurt Hartman. Ah, Kurt's at it again, And

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<v Speaker 3>the report in the Inquirer said he filed it on

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<v Speaker 3>behalf of Jim Burns. People who are in the Republican

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<v Speaker 3>Party know who Jim Burns is. But the complaint is

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<v Speaker 3>about debt that Mayor Purval has on his financial disclosure

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<v Speaker 3>report to three different outfits totally in about eighty thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>So you got to file a financial disclosure report in

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<v Speaker 2>connection with what campaign contributions, the work that's been done

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<v Speaker 2>on behalf of the campaign, that kind of thing, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you have to disclose your donors and then you

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<v Speaker 3>have to disclose what you spent your donors' money on.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So the complaint concerns the fact that this debt was

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<v Speaker 3>on the books for Mayor of purvol so long that

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<v Speaker 3>it's essentially forgiven under election law.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, almost like a statute of limitations.

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<v Speaker 3>It's statute of limitations. And so Kurt's complaint is that

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that these debts were allowed to expire constitute

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<v Speaker 3>campaign contributions.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the money that is expressed this debt, that's for

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<v Speaker 2>services rendered. Yes, So if I'm doing like legal work

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<v Speaker 2>on behalf of a campaign, or you know, I've I've

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<v Speaker 2>printed up signs on behalf of a campaign, the presumption

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<v Speaker 2>is that is disclosed, it's listed as a debt, and

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<v Speaker 2>that the debtor pays back for the services that I render.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Correct's exactly what these three line items represent. Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>In the three firms include Perkins cooy Oh. Now the

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<v Speaker 3>Enquirer says it's Seattle base, but they're very they at

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<v Speaker 3>least during Russia Gate, which is what they were all

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<v Speaker 3>caught up in. They're a Washington, d C. Law firm,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he owes them fifty eight thousand dollars. The

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<v Speaker 3>second is an outfit called Spiro's Consulting, also a big

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<v Speaker 3>Democrat consulting firm in Washington, d C. And the third

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<v Speaker 3>is SKD Knickerbocker and Mayor Purvol's campaign owes them fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars. So SKD Knickerbocker is a heavy hitter in

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<v Speaker 3>the Democratic circles in Washington, d C. And as it

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<v Speaker 3>turns out, that's the outfit that the Norfolk Southern's Political

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<v Speaker 3>Action Committee used during the railway campaign. And SKD Knickerbocker

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<v Speaker 3>got about ninety percent of that six million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>And I running the propaganda campaign to sell the railroad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that was sk Knickerbocker. I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 3>bureau's consulting was part of the railway campaign or not,

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<v Speaker 3>but it could have been. But there's definitely some interconnections there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I would say, and it's like rounding up the

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<v Speaker 2>usual suspects, getting the gang back together. Yeah, we're putting

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<v Speaker 2>the band back together. Yeah, where's anyway, that's right, it's

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<v Speaker 2>late for lunch, that's right. Hey, it was me money.

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<v Speaker 3>So the only issue is and actually when I filed

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<v Speaker 3>a complaint against Purvoll's campaign during the railway campaign, if

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<v Speaker 3>you remember Mayor purval in the Political Action Committee for

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<v Speaker 3>Norfolk Southern shared the same treasurer.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember that it's a really incestuous relationship. Yes, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>So the complaint we filed was that who's deciding that

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<v Speaker 3>Mayor Purval is in these commercials? Is that his campaign treasurer,

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<v Speaker 3>who's running the Folks Southern campaign. So we we filed

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<v Speaker 3>that complaint. In the penalties for violations of Ohio election

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<v Speaker 3>law is kind of pitiful and at least the report

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<v Speaker 3>in the report in the Enquirer this morning said that

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<v Speaker 3>the potential penalties are one hundred dollars a day.

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<v Speaker 2>So this has been sitting around for three years. Though,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what you said at the outset, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>well statched limitations.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's probably I don't know exactly how long,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's probably five years, I would think so. But

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<v Speaker 3>the commit Election Commission is not gonna if they even

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<v Speaker 3>hear the complaint, they're not going to impose a significant

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<v Speaker 3>penalty like that. I'd be very very surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>Well why is that? I mean, they have a record

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<v Speaker 2>of being, you know, light the touches.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, when I filed my complaint back during the railway campaign,

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<v Speaker 3>Kurt even told me that, well, you'll get a good

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<v Speaker 3>experience going to the Election Commission, but don't expect a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of results.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, who sits on the election Commission. I didn't really.

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<v Speaker 3>Look into that. I'm assuming that there are appointees of

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<v Speaker 3>the governor, but don't I don't really know. I think

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<v Speaker 3>there are appointees from the governor.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you'd like to think that they would be politically

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<v Speaker 2>neutral if there is a violation, and let's just assume,

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<v Speaker 2>for the sake of this discussion, is a clear violation.

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<v Speaker 2>He owes these people money and he didn't pay it,

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<v Speaker 2>which means he got services for free, and as services

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<v Speaker 2>translate to a campaign contribution under law. Yes, so if

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<v Speaker 2>any politician, Republican or Democrat did that, then you'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to think that the reason that there is a penalty

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<v Speaker 2>for doing that is to prevent people from getting free

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<v Speaker 2>campaign contributions and campaign dollars. And well, that's disturbing that

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<v Speaker 2>they don't exercise their enforcement power.

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<v Speaker 3>Right and as a result, the campaigns just look at

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<v Speaker 3>it as these whatever penalties they get is kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the cost of doing business.

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<v Speaker 2>So, well, you wonder why there's three Well, I know

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<v Speaker 2>why they wouldn't seek a collection's actions or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>send a letter, a dunning letter or something, is because

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<v Speaker 2>they're Democrats and they wanted to get a Democrat elected.

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<v Speaker 2>That was their job, and they succeeded in that regard.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's that would be my analysis as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's why it's considered a campaign contribution.

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<v Speaker 3>That is what Kurt's alleging.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, so he at least goes through the process.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously it's been exposed in the Enquirer, so it's negative

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<v Speaker 2>press for pro of all. We can all say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>this doesn't seem right, it doesn't smell right, and we

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<v Speaker 2>can all look to the Elections Commission and if they

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<v Speaker 2>don't do anything about it, maybe we can press the

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<v Speaker 2>governor or whoever appoints the individual and the Election Commission

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<v Speaker 2>to do a better job of appointees and get people

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<v Speaker 2>on there like judges that we elect that don't enforce

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<v Speaker 2>the law right to start doing their job. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So, the good thing about the complaint we filed, and

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<v Speaker 3>I actually talk about this on my latest podcast, is

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<v Speaker 3>that we got an Aftha David from Mayor Purval's treasurer

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<v Speaker 3>who basically said, well, I wasn't just making the decisions

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<v Speaker 3>about these commercials. We had a steering committee for the pack. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>the steering committee's never been identified. We don't know who

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<v Speaker 3>the steering committee is, who its membership is, and you

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<v Speaker 3>know that's another one of these secret you know, deals

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<v Speaker 3>with the city. So and the reason I started, the

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<v Speaker 3>reason I went back to it is because of this

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<v Speaker 3>arena issue where this five oh one C four has

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<v Speaker 3>been formed and you know that's that's a potential dark

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well call that a tease for the next

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<v Speaker 2>segment and we'll sort of dive into details on that

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<v Speaker 2>because last time I checked Todd Zenzer Citizen Watchdog podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have any money to build an arena. So

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<v Speaker 2>pause sixth seven to fifteen right now, care see he

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<v Speaker 2>talks station oh Man. Just scratching my head anyhow, Peter

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<v Speaker 2>Shabria Colorwilliam Semon Hill is the only real estate team

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<v Speaker 2>I would ever consider hiring. I mean that from the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of my heart. I know Peter is a brilliant man.

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<v Speaker 2>He has programs that no other real estate team is offering,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's got quality real estate agents. They know what

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<v Speaker 2>they are doing. They truly provide value to their clients.

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<v Speaker 2>And for example, we got a guy named brand I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to find his last name. Sabri Group was

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<v Speaker 2>able to get him multiple offers on his house the

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<v Speaker 2>first day on the market and got him fifteen grand

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<v Speaker 2>over asking price. In addition, they were able to negotiate

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<v Speaker 2>the buyer to waive the inspection and gave Brandon post

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<v Speaker 2>occupancy after closing without rent. You see what they can

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<v Speaker 2>do for you. Their negotiating shields are phenomenal. They have

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<v Speaker 2>programs that nobody else offer, like Cash the Keys program,

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<v Speaker 2>which allows you, if you're eligible, allows you to make

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<v Speaker 2>a cash offer on the home. I know you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have hundreds of thousands of dollars sitting around in a suitcase,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's effectively the same thing. You reconcile the whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing with the Shabre Group after closing, But sellers love

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<v Speaker 2>cash offers, and so that's effectively what the Cash the

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<v Speaker 2>Keys program does. Just one of many opportunities you have

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<v Speaker 2>with the Shabri Group and you won't have with others.

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<v Speaker 2>So hire the best call them up five one three

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<v Speaker 2>seven zero eight three thousand five one three seven zero

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<v Speaker 2>eight three thousand Shabri Cha b riis Group. Just search

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<v Speaker 2>seven zero eight three thousand dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>This is fifty five KRC an iHeartRadio station.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you come, Shannon, I first win one of forecasts

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<v Speaker 2>yeay for opening day, and I think we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>okay with the weather. Fingers crossed anyway. Showers are possible

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<v Speaker 2>after GPM first pitch at ten minutes after four. They're

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<v Speaker 2>anticipating only a fifty percent chance of rain, So that's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Zens are former Inspector General and he's basically effectively the

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<v Speaker 2>over to the new sports arena. You say it's called

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<v Speaker 2>the Heritage Center, Now, I always call it the Coliseum

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm old. Yes, that's the building. Yes, and they

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know how. One of the issues is that they

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<v Speaker 3>than the one that Heritage has.

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<v Speaker 2>So the claim is we're missing out on some big acts,

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<v Speaker 3>Something like that. I think that's probably right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, okay, I've seen the gazillion concerts there, and

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<v Speaker 2>And okay, so grandiose ideas. Yeah, I think they tried

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<v Speaker 2>to get the Olympics here too one time. You have, right,

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<v Speaker 2>what a colossal waste of effort that is. Anyway, So

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<v Speaker 2>my understanding from you and off air comments is the

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<v Speaker 2>local businesses want the if there is a new one,

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<v Speaker 2>and we haven't gotten into the logistics and realities whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not we even afforded. They wanted to stay in

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<v Speaker 3>Right, the businesses that the banks have an association, They

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<v Speaker 3>even have a little taxing authority that group does. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and they want to keep the arena on the banks,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's a lot of people that agree with them.

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<v Speaker 3>But the people proposing a new arena, they've concluded that

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<v Speaker 3>that footprint of the current arena isn't large enough for

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<v Speaker 2>Do we know what size arena that they want to build.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there's some proposal and no, it's going to have

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the it was either the regional Chamber or a

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<v Speaker 3>and it's several months old. Now, okay, I haven't looked

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<v Speaker 3>at it recently, but it's it's it's not all that persuasive,

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<v Speaker 3>to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>And for what specific reasons?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they you know, for example, they conclude that the

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's probably owned. They can't do that, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're there. Their proposal assumes that they're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to have any competition for these events. And I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think the Heritage Center is going to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they going to get rid of P and C

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<v Speaker 2>Pavilion or Riverbend too? Yeah, look at them all and

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<v Speaker 3>That is one thing you hear from people is that

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<v Speaker 3>don't we have enough around here?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but you're hoping. I think they are hoping

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<v Speaker 2>that if you build this new grand facility that they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get like the NC two A tournaments to correct. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, now, pivoting over to the location that is proposed.

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<v Speaker 2>I know the current owners and the resident or the

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<v Speaker 2>businesses around the Heritage Center want it to stay there.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's assume for the sake of discussion, there isn't a

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<v Speaker 2>big enough footprint. Where do the powers that be that

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<v Speaker 2>are pushing this agenda item want it to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the the two locations that I've heard about is

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<v Speaker 3>someplace in Queensgate I'm not exactly sure aware. Uh, And

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<v Speaker 3>then the other is right there on Central Avenue where

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<v Speaker 2>Oh sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they've tried to talk to WCET about selling out,

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<v Speaker 3>and WCET has come back with an outrageous amount of

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<v Speaker 3>think it's up like the fifty million or something like

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<v Speaker 2>But that wouldn't be the only property to have to

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<v Speaker 2>acquire to build a big facility there. They'd have to

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<v Speaker 2>acquire a lot of land around there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not really sure about all that, but it will

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of money. Yes, yeah, your negotiation power

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<v Speaker 2>goes up dramatically. It's like the last person standing over

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<v Speaker 2>with the rook would comp remember that one house that

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<v Speaker 2>they refuse to give in and that one loan house

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<v Speaker 2>with all the open field land, after all the other

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<v Speaker 2>houses have been knocked down, you can hold out, you

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<v Speaker 2>can get a lot of money. Yeah, well, let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the financials on this one, wherever it might happen

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<v Speaker 2>to go. I guess the folks that the Heritage aren't

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<v Speaker 2>going to sell and they're not going to close down

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<v Speaker 2>their operation. It sort of renders this entire conversation moot.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, like I said, I think that the proponents of

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<v Speaker 3>go away. But you know they could stick around and

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<v Speaker 3>outcompete the new arena.

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<v Speaker 2>They certainly could. Those pause will bring former Inspector General

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<v Speaker 2>and current Inspector General Todd Zenzer follow us. Listen to

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<v Speaker 2>Citizen Watchdog. That's his podcast. He's talking about this kind

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<v Speaker 2>Coming back after I mentioned Bud Herbert. My friends at

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<v Speaker 2>Friends do good things for friends. And so my friend

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<v Speaker 2>family member and they are proud of what they sell.

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<v Speaker 2>Highest quality, top quality brands and lawn equipment on the market.

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<v Speaker 2>Bud Herbert and you're supporting a local, family owned and

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<v Speaker 2>So here's my advice to you. Friends, to friends, Budhebertmotors

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<v Speaker 2>Seven fifty five KRCD talk Station, Happy Friday. Eve dodds

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five KRC Morning Show this morning. Well, I told

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<v Speaker 2>soon as you pull back to Veneer of just the

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<v Speaker 2>general concept, because you might get everybody nod their head

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<v Speaker 2>and go, yeah, wouldn't it be nice? Youah, the Colisseum

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, Heritage Center, it sucks. It's outdated. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember seeing since any Stingers playing there back in the

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<v Speaker 2>seventies and it hasn't changed much. You know, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like an insurmountable task. Yeah, so you've got location problems.

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<v Speaker 2>They want it to be, say on Central Avenue, but

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<v Speaker 2>then a whole lot of other privately owned properties around that.

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<v Speaker 2>So acquisition costs for just the land you haven't even

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<v Speaker 2>put a brick in the ground in terms of building

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<v Speaker 2>that the stadium, and you're already tens of millions of

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<v Speaker 2>probably be litigation because some people wouldn't want to sell,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're not going not to our neighborhood. There's always that.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you've got the competition factor that you pointed out.

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<v Speaker 2>Heritage we're privately own. We're not going to shut down.

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<v Speaker 2>Screw you guys, right, we can still get draws. An

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<v Speaker 2>actor comes in that can't fill a thirty thousands for arena,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got fifteen thousand. They may sell that out. We're

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<v Speaker 2>the perfect size. There's also Riverbend PNC, the venue across

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<v Speaker 2>the University. I'm sorry, I can't remember what that one's called.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course the smaller venues like the Brady Center,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know, we're talking different types of acts. We've

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<v Speaker 2>course money relates to ecxisitions. But we all have a

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<v Speaker 2>bad taste in our mouth from the stadium deal. But

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<v Speaker 2>you told me off air, and it's important for listeners

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the Hamilton County Growth Alliance.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait till you hear what their idea is. Listeners who

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<v Speaker 2>know what the stadium deal, remember when you voted to

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<v Speaker 2>build the stadium FKA Paul Brown Stadium in Great American Ballpark,

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<v Speaker 2>what did you agree to. You agreed to pay more

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<v Speaker 2>taxes for the purposes of building those two venues, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you got stabbed in the back because they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get the reduction of taxes that was promised to you

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<v Speaker 2>when you voted for it. So with that background, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, the report about the Hamilton County Growth Alliance

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<v Speaker 3>is that one of the sources of funding that they're

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<v Speaker 3>looking for, they think they'll be able to get access

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<v Speaker 3>to the tax sales tax receipts that were approved by

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<v Speaker 3>the voters for the stadium and the Great American Ballpark.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't understand that enough to know what they're

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<v Speaker 3>really even talking about. It doesn't sound like that's going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And if they've somehow got their hand in that

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<v Speaker 2>cookie jar, maybe there might be litigation related to doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here's the thing about five oh one C fours

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<v Speaker 3>is that they do not have to disclose their donors.

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<v Speaker 3>So that creates a situation where where it kind of

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<v Speaker 3>becomes or could become, what they call dark money, and

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<v Speaker 3>that that money you don't know who it's coming from,

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<v Speaker 3>and you don't know what other areas of our civic

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<v Speaker 3>life that they're influencing. For example, two incumbent members of

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<v Speaker 3>city Council came right out supporting the Hamilton County Growth

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<v Speaker 3>Alliance and you have to wonder, well, what's their relationship

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<v Speaker 3>with this five oh one C.

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<v Speaker 2>Four going back to have to have provall financial disclosure

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<v Speaker 2>statements of just chuckling along those.

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<v Speaker 3>Lines, and it is it is a very similar situation.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know who the donors are, just like you

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<v Speaker 3>don't for the Hamilton County Growth Alliance, just like you

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<v Speaker 3>don't know who's on the steering committee. And there's there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of secrets that go on in this town.

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<v Speaker 3>I've always heard about the meeting before the meeting, which

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<v Speaker 3>means somehow the city council members get together and make

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<v Speaker 3>decisions before they come into the council room.

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<v Speaker 2>And it got me thinking that it sounds like the

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<v Speaker 2>Gang of Five problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, well, I don't know how they do it. Like

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<v Speaker 3>do you remember the scandal that Sherry Coolidge reported on

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<v Speaker 3>about the railroad board meeting in executive session and making

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<v Speaker 3>decisions in executive session?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Sure, an executive session excludes the public.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, right, Well, I've never seen the city council go

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<v Speaker 3>into executive session to talk about anything. Where when do

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<v Speaker 3>they get their information about what they're voting on? It's

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<v Speaker 3>got I think what happens is.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what I think?

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<v Speaker 3>What happens that the city manager. I heard her speak

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<v Speaker 3>one time and she kind of let it slip. She

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<v Speaker 3>kind of indicated that she meets with every member of

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<v Speaker 3>city Council on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 2>Individually, individually.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know that's what Aftab did on or Mayor

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<v Speaker 3>Purval did on the railway deal. They kept that secret

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<v Speaker 3>and he would he went around and I think he

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<v Speaker 3>said this, He went around to each member of city

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<v Speaker 3>council individually on the QT to tell them that hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about selling a railway and I thought that

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<v Speaker 3>was very unusual.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and of course the transparency raw laws and rules

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<v Speaker 2>would require them to announce this and make it an

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<v Speaker 2>open discussion. And we know the Gang of five got

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<v Speaker 2>in trouble because they were making decisions collect five of

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<v Speaker 2>them anyway behind the scenes, got busted for that. So

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<v Speaker 2>you're telling me the way around this and the way

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<v Speaker 2>they work around this, which is very easy to do.

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<v Speaker 2>It just requires a little more time. Rather than meeting

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<v Speaker 2>one big room, you got the mayor going individually and

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<v Speaker 2>then talking to one of the council people and saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>the other council people I've already talked to have already

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<v Speaker 2>agreed with me that this is the direction we need

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<v Speaker 2>to go. Are you on board with me on this?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's how I think that's how it has

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<v Speaker 3>to be working. Because they have litigation, they have personnel matters,

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<v Speaker 3>they have all kinds of things that you know they

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<v Speaker 3>should discuss as a council but not in public. That's

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<v Speaker 3>why executive sessions exist. But you never see them going

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<v Speaker 3>into executive session. So I don't know how they deliberate.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you may have stubbled upon it. Todd Zenzer,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why you're great at what you do seven

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven. Right now, we'll talk with them a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more. Get his thoughts and reactions to the mayoral

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<v Speaker 2>debate the other day. He was there, he saw it all,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll see what he has to say about well,

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<v Speaker 2>who he would like to see as mayor. First call

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<v Speaker 2>In Electric for all your residential electric needs projects. You

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<v Speaker 2>just call the people a Culin outstanding is at what

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<v Speaker 2>they do. Andrew Cullen and his great team of highly trained,

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful customer service license electricians to do all of your

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<v Speaker 2>residential electric projects as they have for me over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>at the right price. To speaking of price service upgrades,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you people who are responsible for changing the code.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently last spring they change the code regarding service upgrades

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<v Speaker 2>and it now costs a whole lot more than he

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<v Speaker 2>used to shocking no one. Well, Colin understands that, and

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<v Speaker 2>so now through the end of April, they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>knock twenty percent off a new service installation for your home.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's the power up your home sale means great

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<v Speaker 2>savings on the service upgrade for my friends at Colin Electric.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty percent off the installation of a new panel and

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<v Speaker 2>service equipment for your home. It extends to above or

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<v Speaker 2>below ground residential single family service of four hundred AMS

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<v Speaker 2>or less and extends the breaker panel and main service

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<v Speaker 2>upgrades only. So take advantage of the savings and get

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<v Speaker 2>a ten year warranty on the installation which comes along

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<v Speaker 2>with any electric project they do for you that warranty.

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<v Speaker 2>Call them up five one three two two seven four

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty five KRC dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know even this? There's your nine first on

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<v Speaker 2>one forecast. Not bad for opening day. I think we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna survive, and maybe just a little bit of rain.

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<v Speaker 2>They say it'll show up after two, but it's this

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<v Speaker 2>possible range. So fingers crossed with a parade and for

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<v Speaker 2>opening day, fifty eight is going to be our high

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<v Speaker 2>today down to forty eight over night with a few showers.

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<v Speaker 2>We get a morning rain tomorrow and then partly saud

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<v Speaker 2>The sky is seventy three, just clouds over night, fifty

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<v Speaker 2>seven and a little rain on Saturday as well. Possible

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<v Speaker 2>seventy seven for the high thirty six degrees right now

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<v Speaker 2>time for traffic.

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<v Speaker 4>at you seehelp dot com. Southbound seventy five heavy your through.

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<v Speaker 4>Walk on northbound seventy five at an extra five out

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<v Speaker 4>of arrow, linger into downtown streets around the Fendley Market.

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<v Speaker 4>Set to close at the top of the hour to

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<v Speaker 4>prepare for the parade. Shock Ingram on fifty five KR

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<v Speaker 4>Scene Deep Talk Station.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven fifty bou KR City Talk Station. I love my

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<v Speaker 2>conversations with Todd Zinzer, and I hope you enjoy them

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<v Speaker 2>as much as I do. Kind of frustrating recognizing all

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<v Speaker 2>the problems that you are uncovering and all the realities

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<v Speaker 2>that make them even seem even more batcrap insane than

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<v Speaker 2>they are. Todd, you got the Shenanigans going along with it, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>how are all these efforts just like sort of coordinated

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<v Speaker 2>and magically show up one day where everybody's in agreement

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<v Speaker 2>on what's going to happen. But before we get to

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<v Speaker 2>your thoughts and impressions on the mayor, Old debate the

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<v Speaker 2>other day, which I'm interested in. The city borrowed another

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<v Speaker 2>thirty million dollars yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they they approved either approved that, they just moved

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<v Speaker 3>it on to another another meeting. But the bottom line

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<v Speaker 3>is they're going to borrow thirty million dollars. They're going

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<v Speaker 3>to issue bonds for an additional thirty million dollars five

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<v Speaker 3>point five I think for health center and OTR and

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<v Speaker 3>twenty nine million for a like a community center around

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<v Speaker 3>Findley around Finley Market, because.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna be a whole brand new couple of buildings

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<v Speaker 2>for these Yes, they're relocating. Well, they're selling off a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of buildings like the Elms and Ducky building

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<v Speaker 2>and some of the other buildings were identify up for sale.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the county.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's the county. Okay, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's funny because that's the same thing that's going

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<v Speaker 3>on in the federal government everybody's complaining about. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>hear the county commissioners are smart enough to do it

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<v Speaker 3>here locally, so good for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for them. Yeah, I agree, but I just I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there has to be available space. I mean, isn't something

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<v Speaker 2>out there that is being unused or could be easily

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<v Speaker 2>acquired that wouldn't require that level of capital expenditure to

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<v Speaker 2>have it done and accomplish the goals they want to accomplish. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>but it won't be LEADS certified or something, right, Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>And it won't put their friends in the construction business

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<v Speaker 2>and do more jobs either. Huh.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that area is getting a lot of has gotten

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<v Speaker 3>and it continues to get a lot of resources from

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<v Speaker 3>the city.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, but in terms of dollars and cents you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned to me off air, it's important to understand they

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<v Speaker 2>had they got an initial twenty one million dollars laying

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<v Speaker 2>around over there.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the city manager issues a memo every month about

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<v Speaker 3>the finances, and this most recent memos is that they

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<v Speaker 3>have collected twenty one million dollars more than they had

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<v Speaker 3>budgeted for. So they're in high cotton right now in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of in terms of.

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<v Speaker 2>Cash, well, just write a check. At least one building

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<v Speaker 2>is only five and only five and a half million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars they could pay for that other pocket. Well that's

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<v Speaker 2>what that's what I think. But I guess I guess

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<v Speaker 2>that's not how they do business. So did were the

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<v Speaker 2>terms of conditions of the borrowing released. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 2>the percentage of interest is, how many how many years

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be we're paying interest on them.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to leave all that up to the finance

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<v Speaker 3>department for the city. So they have just general parameters

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<v Speaker 3>that they that they've approved, but the actual borrowing is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be decided by the city administration.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course the taxpayers have no say in this matter.

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<v Speaker 3>No our says. As soon as they vote to approve it,

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<v Speaker 3>ur say, is pretty much over.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, jeez, did anybody vote or come to some

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<v Speaker 2>understanding that yes, these are absolutely necessary structures to build.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's all done by the city council, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>all you know we talked.

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<v Speaker 2>About how they Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>Well let's pause. We'll bring Todd back his analysis of

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<v Speaker 2>the mayor old debate one more with citizen watchdog Todd Zenzer.

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<v Speaker 2>After I mentioned something that is affordable, medical imaging can

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<v Speaker 2>be affordable, at least by comparison, I know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still hundreds of dollars, but why would you want

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<v Speaker 2>to pay thousands of dollars when you can get the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing? All things pretty much equal except the overhead

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<v Speaker 2>four hundreds of dollars. Consider your echo cardiogram at a

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<v Speaker 2>hospital three thousand, four thousand dollars, a couple of extra

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<v Speaker 2>bills with radiologists, report and whatnot, well and affordable imaging

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<v Speaker 2>services that echo cardiogram and they can get you right

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<v Speaker 2>in as opposed to the imaging department of the hospital

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<v Speaker 2>which may set you back weeks and if not a month,

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<v Speaker 2>get you right in and if you don't need an enhancement,

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<v Speaker 2>it's only five hundred. If you need an enhancement, it's

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<v Speaker 2>eight hundred. And yes, it includes a board certified radiologist

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight hours. Same thing for mri ct scans and ultrasounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Ultrasound could be two thousand or more dollars in a hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's only two hundred and fifty dollars at

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<v Speaker 2>You have to pay for that, so don't they have

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<v Speaker 2>the same kind of equipment the hospitals use. You get them.

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<v Speaker 2>The radiologist reports are no different than anything can come

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<v Speaker 2>and check out what he's got say. Former Inspector General

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<v Speaker 2>all over the Shenanigans going on, mostly in City Council.

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<v Speaker 2>Before I get you know, every time we go out

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<v Speaker 2>of Breakman, you give me something else I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about. I want you to, really, really quickly, just

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<v Speaker 2>give us an update on the status of the Hyde

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<v Speaker 2>Park redevelopment, which requires a zoning change, a variance from

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<v Speaker 2>the zoning laws. Now Hyde Park has a say on

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<v Speaker 2>certain matters. They've got their own community council and they're

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<v Speaker 2>against it. The citizens of Hide Park don't want that,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely no, not in my backyard. The City of Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 2>City Council wants it. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe that they will vote to approve it if

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<v Speaker 3>but only because they're so far in the pocket of

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<v Speaker 3>these developers.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, we've talked about how influential these developers are with

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<v Speaker 2>the city council members and the mayor. So if the

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<v Speaker 2>city pushes it forward and approves it, that trumps what

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<v Speaker 2>the voters in Hyde Park want. Yes, absolutely, which may

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<v Speaker 2>have a significant outcome on the upcoming elections.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I would think so if you've got a voting

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<v Speaker 3>block over they have over three thousand I think I

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<v Speaker 3>heard the number thirty five hundred signatures on a petition. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a pretty big voting block.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a significant amount of moneyed voters as well. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it is. They sometimes write campaign checks. And here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not opposing development. They're opposing this development because it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't conform to the current zoning right, and it seems

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<v Speaker 3>like a no brainer for the council to say, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, let's think about this some more.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Okay, I got my popcorn out on that one,

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<v Speaker 2>and none of this influences me, But man, I'm telling

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<v Speaker 2>you that could have a sizeable, sizeable influence on the

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<v Speaker 2>upcoming election. So, pivoting over to that, you were there

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<v Speaker 2>for the debate the other night, I was what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think? What was your takeaway? Because what I heard

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<v Speaker 2>primarily from Jim Keefer. I mean, he did get into

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<v Speaker 2>some specific topics, but generally speaking the moderator was quite

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<v Speaker 2>biased in favor of Aftab Purvoll.

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<v Speaker 3>I think for the most part. Yes, I mean earlier,

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<v Speaker 3>the first question out of the box for all three, well,

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<v Speaker 3>for the two Republicans, the question was what qualifies you

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<v Speaker 3>to be mayor? And then for Mayor Pervoll, the question

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<v Speaker 3>was what have been your accomplishments? Okay, so right off

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<v Speaker 3>the bat, so that led him into probably it was

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<v Speaker 3>much longer than two minutes. A whole narrative, which is

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<v Speaker 3>all he's all about, is narrative of all his accomplishments,

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<v Speaker 3>including the railroad sale. He took credit for the Brent

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<v Speaker 3>Spence Bridge, even though that's been an op you know,

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<v Speaker 3>an ongoing saga for decades.

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<v Speaker 2>Obama campaign in front of the bridge.

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<v Speaker 3>He took credit for connected communities, which nobody likes. And

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<v Speaker 3>so he went through all of his accomplishments and which

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<v Speaker 3>I think is a good thing, so that Corey Bowman

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<v Speaker 3>knows exactly what his narrative is and can start poking

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<v Speaker 3>holes in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, it's a perfect setup. It's like bullet points.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what Pervall's proud of and his accomplished. Here's why

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<v Speaker 2>it was a bad idea and a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes and template. So I went to City Hall yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>to the City council meeting, and I suggested that or

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<v Speaker 3>I said, one question that wasn't asked, that should have

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<v Speaker 3>been asked, is the candidates that emerged from the primary,

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<v Speaker 3>will you commit to additional debates in the general election?

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<v Speaker 2>And of course the council and the mayor don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to answer questions that you pose, but you posed it anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the reaction from Provoll?

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<v Speaker 3>He was pretty deadpan. Actually, I'm sure he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>much of a reaction, which which kind of leads to

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<v Speaker 3>my working in DC for over twenty years, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is I think a lot of people do this. You

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<v Speaker 3>put politicians in one of two camps. They're either a

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<v Speaker 3>show horse or a workhorse. And Mayor Parvoll is a

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<v Speaker 3>show horse. I think Corey Bowman is a workhorse. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think that's the choice that voters are

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<v Speaker 3>going to have. And mister Purval is all about the narratives,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't really know that he feels what Corey

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<v Speaker 3>Bowman feels. In terms of the condition of the city

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<v Speaker 3>and Corey.

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<v Speaker 2>I've talked to Corey face to face quite a few times.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the man. I like how engaged he is.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he doesn't come across at all as a

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<v Speaker 2>polished politician, but he is passionate about the city. He

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<v Speaker 2>loves the city. He has invested in an area that

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<v Speaker 2>most people don't invest in, and he understands that there

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<v Speaker 2>are some people that really truly wanted to invest in

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<v Speaker 2>that particular area or by Dayton Street, but they had

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<v Speaker 2>roadblocks down the way by city council that it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>conform with what their vision of a community should be,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, denser housing and this whole connected community's crap.

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<v Speaker 2>And since the developers that wanted to put money into

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<v Speaker 2>the neighborhood weren't planning on doing something like that, then

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<v Speaker 2>they just basically were told that.

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<v Speaker 3>And what Corey pointed out in the debate on Tuesday

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<v Speaker 3>night was that it seems like the city council wants

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<v Speaker 3>to rely on these big developers to come in and

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<v Speaker 3>do these big developments, and meanwhile Corey wants to support

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<v Speaker 3>the local builders and the local developers that have designs

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<v Speaker 3>on smaller developments.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the one big difference.

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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, well, I guess we'll see what happens. But

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<v Speaker 3>I thought Corey did a good job. Again, mister purvol

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<v Speaker 3>is very polished. Yeah, and it was. I thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was a very informative, very entertaining debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Great. Well, I'm glad you're able to be there. You

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<v Speaker 2>happen to always take you take time out of your

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<v Speaker 2>life and your other responsibilities to always manage to be

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<v Speaker 2>at the city Council, to be at the open events,

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<v Speaker 2>to be the take up on the opportunity to follow

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<v Speaker 2>politics and very closely and on behalf of all of

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<v Speaker 2>my listeners, most notably the residents of the City of

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati today's topics. I appreciate what you're doing. I really

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<v Speaker 2>do well. Thank you, Brian, because we don't get reporting

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<v Speaker 2>that are providing this type of information, and if it

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<v Speaker 2>is provided, it comes across with a certain measure of bias.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with that. You just report the facts as

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<v Speaker 2>you observe them. Thanks again, brother, I appreciate you coming

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<v Speaker 2>in and spending time with a citizen Watchdog podcast. You

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<v Speaker 2>find him online, Todd zens or We'll help you back again.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope real soon. Stick around. Speaking of Corey Bowman,

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to call in the program after the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the UR News. Then we get to hear from

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<v Speaker 2>my heart media aviation expert Jay Ratl. I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>great list of topics with Jay. I'll be right back.

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