Speaker 1: Hello buddy to the facilities of the Iheartened Media megaplexus
Speaker 1: is Dick Gabriel. It's a state wide edition of the
Speaker 1: Big Blue Inside. You've heard comments from embattled Mark Stoops. Also,
Speaker 1: we learned a little bit about the Auburn Tigers from
Speaker 1: the voice of Auburn Football Andy Bertram. Now's your chance
Speaker 1: to listen along as we chat with Billy Rutledge, Aaron
Speaker 1: Gershawan and yours truly here on the state wide BBI
Speaker 1: border to order. It is the Big Blue Insider. Dick Gabriel,
Speaker 1: Aaron Gershwan, Billy Rutledge, Aaron in Gainesville for that debacle.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but what surprised me the most,
Speaker 1: and it was a game for a while, as badly
Speaker 1: as Kentucky looked twenty seven to twenty Kentucky at the football.
Speaker 1: But what amazed me, Aaron, was how Florida walked all
Speaker 1: over the Kentucky defense at times. Not every time, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of they hold to a couple of field goals, yeah,
Speaker 1: a couple of three and a half, But whenever it
Speaker 1: seemed like Florida needed a big play, it got it.
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, And there are a lot of
Speaker 1: things we're going to talk about. You know, Billy's chopping
Speaker 1: it a bit. But that's what surprised me the most.
Speaker 1: I would agree.
Speaker 2: I mean, look Florida, looking into them the week before,
Speaker 2: their offensive line is much improved this year. So you
Speaker 2: got to give a hat tip to that. And you
Speaker 2: gotta definitely tip your cap to the running back ball.
Speaker 2: I mean, five rushing touchdowns in his first career start.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's unbelievable stuff. But my big thing is, look,
Speaker 2: Kentucky's defense has been really, really good all year. They're
Speaker 2: due to have a stinker. Every team there's not There
Speaker 2: are very few teams in the country that don't have
Speaker 2: a stinker on one side of the ball. Georgia gave
Speaker 2: up how many to Alabama, who's been terrible. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: like it's gonna happen. The thing is, on a night
Speaker 2: like that, you need your offense to win you a
Speaker 2: football game, and the offense, to me, I just go yes.
Speaker 2: I was surprised that they got run all over, out
Speaker 2: physical and all that the Kentucky's defense stuck. But to me,
Speaker 2: it's okay, they're gonna have stinker. They had you know,
Speaker 2: two years ago they had the sinker in Knoxville when
Speaker 2: they were a top ten unit. The offense has to
Speaker 2: go out and win you a football game, play some
Speaker 2: complimentary football, help your guys out, and they can't do it.
Speaker 2: That's to me. It just still goes back to the offense,
Speaker 2: even with the defense being terrible and giving up I'd say, really,
Speaker 2: they give up thirty four points because obviously there was
Speaker 2: a pick six and then they got to pull up
Speaker 2: the five yard line after our pick.
Speaker 1: Were you close to a monitor in the press.
Speaker 2: Box, yeah, TV.
Speaker 1: I never got a good look at video of that
Speaker 1: fourth down play where they could have gotten a first
Speaker 1: down or into the end zone. But I felt like
Speaker 1: the game kind of turned on that position. And I'm
Speaker 1: as close to Stoops as I am to that wall
Speaker 1: over there down on the sideline, and he was trying.
Speaker 1: And that's why I asked him about the communication today.
Speaker 1: He could not get the official. I think it was
Speaker 1: the line judge to communicate with him, right, and that
Speaker 1: situation and uh and the guy guy I heard the
Speaker 1: referee got a little snippy with him, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Look, I couldn't really tell it was close.
Speaker 2: I would probably to me if I thought it might
Speaker 2: have been, but it was probably one of those like
Speaker 2: call stands, this is what it is.
Speaker 1: And I thought they got a bad spot.
Speaker 2: They got a bad spot on it. And then there
Speaker 2: was the one touchdown that I still don't know if
Speaker 2: it was a touchdown or not. That Florida score. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't think so either. So the one official again,
Speaker 2: I'm right there. The headlinesman was the one guy who
Speaker 2: put his hands up. And what he did was he
Speaker 2: obviously comes from the sideline. Yeah, he runs about three
Speaker 2: or four steps and he sees and.
Speaker 1: If this is why he did it, good on them.
Speaker 1: He sees the Florida players put their hands up. He
Speaker 1: shoots his hands in the air, then he pulls them
Speaker 1: down and runs a few more steps before he gets
Speaker 1: to the pile. Yeah, nobody knew it was a touchdown
Speaker 1: except allegedly that official. Yeah, and look, they might have
Speaker 1: gotten in on the next play. I understanding.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of weird starts, but it just it
Speaker 2: goes back to the defense playing its worst game of
Speaker 2: the year. It was abound to happen, and then the offense.
Speaker 1: You can't miss an opportunity.
Speaker 2: You can't in the offense I mean even if Demi
Speaker 2: maybe he did get a first down at the end
Speaker 2: of the day fourth and one at the two yard
Speaker 2: line after Christian Story finally makes a big play like that,
Speaker 2: and you waste it. Two games in a row.
Speaker 1: Fourth and two, you can get a first down.
Speaker 2: Two exact two games in a row. You're inside your
Speaker 2: opponent's three yard line and you score zero.
Speaker 1: And this is a Kentucky team that's been known for
Speaker 1: power football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look they had And I get what Mark
Speaker 2: Stoops is saying. With chip trainum in the hand, he
Speaker 2: looks what if he fumbles, then he looks like an idiot.
Speaker 1: I get somebody hit Hey, look, they're not stupid. As
Speaker 1: soon as he carries a ball, they're going to aim
Speaker 1: for that hand.
Speaker 2: With helmets totally. So I get that, not that he
Speaker 2: carried in the broken hand, But yeah, I just and
Speaker 2: this is not on Stoops. I'd just leaping over the
Speaker 2: line when you have a four hundred and twenty one
Speaker 2: Pounty Town there, come on, that's play calling. That's play calling.
Speaker 2: And then I'd like to know what the Stoops was asked, like,
Speaker 2: was the play for Demi to leap? After the game,
Speaker 2: he said, you've got to get a half inch by
Speaker 2: any means necessary, so it didn't sound like the play
Speaker 2: call was leap into a first down, leap into four
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty one pounds.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it came up on the show
Speaker 1: tonight either, Billy, you can speak to this. But he
Speaker 1: reiterated that only once did he get into the mix
Speaker 1: on play calling, because people have accused him for a
Speaker 1: long time of, you know, my word, interfering with play
Speaker 1: calling or whatever, and he said, I don't, he said,
Speaker 1: except for those one time. And I think it's when
Speaker 1: when Whims had scored and he said, you know, essentially,
Speaker 1: we don't want to get cute down here, just get
Speaker 1: the ball in the end zone and they did. So Yeah,
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I was surprised he chose to leave. He
Speaker 1: ain't the biggest guy in the world.
Speaker 3: I also don't believe that from Stoops. I mean, I
Speaker 3: think he is a part. I think he has been
Speaker 3: a big part of play calling throughout the years. I
Speaker 3: think maybe he's correct in one game saying that he
Speaker 3: didn't do it besides this one time. I think that's
Speaker 3: probably the truth when it comes to a lot of it.
Speaker 3: But that's I digress. That's not even what I want
Speaker 3: to talk about. I do feel bad for Stoops because
Speaker 3: I feel like he's he's guessing what people are going
Speaker 3: to say about what he is going to say, and
Speaker 3: that's not a good place to be in. Right Like
Speaker 3: the chip train hum thing, he's like saying that we're
Speaker 3: gonna call him an idiot if he bumbles, because why
Speaker 3: do you have a guy that just had surgery on
Speaker 3: his hands. He's just beaten down. He's a broken man.
Speaker 3: And that's how I feel right now, Dick. It's demoralizing
Speaker 3: to watch this Kentucky offense. It's like Iowa football, except
Speaker 3: you don't get the payoff of actually winning the game.
Speaker 1: Good call, I mean, isn't it to accuse you of
Speaker 1: playing Iowa football on offense? And you don't even have
Speaker 1: the great defense to go with good defense?
Speaker 3: But not and you have maybe your best wide receiver
Speaker 3: room in the Stoops era. You've gotten a highly rated
Speaker 3: recruited quarterback, and yet you can't pass the ball. I mean,
Speaker 3: that is how bad this offensive?
Speaker 1: Not going to play that kid at quarterback right now?
Speaker 1: Got her bowling?
Speaker 3: No, I'm talking about Brock. We're talking about the transfer. No,
Speaker 3: brozactly right, and you the offensive line is so bad
Speaker 3: that you are squandering talent at the receiver room and
Speaker 3: at quarterback again with your fifth straight year with a
Speaker 3: new offensive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but how many how many passes? Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: going to say, bounced off hands into the wrong jersey
Speaker 1: outside of daye Key drove me. Danky has zero drop
Speaker 1: still in the year zero zero. I thought he had
Speaker 1: won at least one.
Speaker 2: None.
Speaker 1: Dan Key has been as close.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't say perfect because he had the
Speaker 2: fun and he had the stupid penalty against Vandy. Other
Speaker 2: than that, he's had a pretty close to perfect season
Speaker 2: eighth in the SEC and receiving with inept passing offense
Speaker 2: that ranks one hundred and twenty third in the country.
Speaker 2: But barry On Brown, like, yes, he has all the
Speaker 2: talent in the world, He's not a good wide I
Speaker 2: can't call him a good wide receiver right now because,
Speaker 2: like you said, he's dropping past his timid going over
Speaker 2: the middle.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to ask about that about because Jeff
Speaker 1: Jeff from freshman year on I want to get Jeff
Speaker 1: blood boy. Oh yeah, both Brown and Dane freshman year.
Speaker 1: Jeff was talking about route running and how much better
Speaker 1: he thought they would be that second year. Yes, and
Speaker 1: I do believe now they're in their third. Dane has
Speaker 1: made the jont Dane has made the question, I'm not
Speaker 1: learned enough on that stuff. I haven't yet been asked
Speaker 1: to play a wide receiver in college football. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, But I would love to know how he
Speaker 1: sees that. And of course Brown, you know, he's everybody's
Speaker 1: first at least for a long time. Everybody's first name
Speaker 1: up on the whiteboard, right, yeah, account for this guy.
Speaker 1: Now it's Dane Key. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: They were double teaming Kay all night down there until
Speaker 2: the score got out of hand. I mean, and look
Speaker 2: why not? I mean barryon great play on the on
Speaker 2: the flea flicker, he did what he does best is
Speaker 2: go routes and get open. But on plays over the middle,
Speaker 2: real route, he struggles. And like Jamory Macklin, I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to pick on him. Guy was in a thousand
Speaker 2: yard receiver last year. He's been. He's gotten six catches,
Speaker 2: and part of that's because the past, right, not many,
Speaker 2: but still like what's going on there that he's not reliable.
Speaker 2: You know, they haven't gotten anything from Brown Stevens.
Speaker 1: Is he not reliable or not right? Does he even
Speaker 1: have so many issues?
Speaker 3: The jet sweeps for the eighth time because they launched
Speaker 3: that into the sun.
Speaker 2: They need to just look. It's boring and it might
Speaker 2: hurt recruiting. But like the only thing this offense is
Speaker 2: good at is running down hill well, and they need
Speaker 2: to just freaking commit to it.
Speaker 1: But the problem was as well, Florida made them one dimensional. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to extent, And if you're good enough to do that,
Speaker 1: then you're gonna shut Kentucky down.
Speaker 2: How about that first scrip? Didn't DEMI have like a
Speaker 2: fifteen yard run in the second play from scrimmakes Yeah,
Speaker 2: like they're not without talent, Yeah, they're not. It's it's
Speaker 2: mind boggling. And then it's another year where I.
Speaker 1: Would love to know what Vandergriff might be able to
Speaker 1: do with just a little more time to throw the ball.
Speaker 2: And he go through his progression that South Carolina game,
Speaker 2: he has not been the same since. It's clear clearly
Speaker 2: rattled him and I can't believe him. But there are
Speaker 2: also plays where he has time and he has guys
Speaker 2: open and he's locked in on Dame Key.
Speaker 1: It feels like.
Speaker 3: You guys mentioned recruiting. Who is barry On Brown's primary recruiter,
Speaker 3: Eric Eric Wilford, the guy that did not cycle any
Speaker 3: offensive lineman in so you could have depth.
Speaker 2: Hey, he got in recruiting in the offensive Brown and
Speaker 2: On Walking.
Speaker 3: And Walker who took how many plays off in the line. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he was playing himself out of the first round at
Speaker 3: this point. Yes, I mean so, I mean I think
Speaker 3: it goes back to the offensive line again. In the
Speaker 3: void that John Schlarman left Walt Wells Genn recruit because
Speaker 3: he was going to Eastern Kentucky. Eric Wolford just decided
Speaker 3: to leave and Stoops welcomes him back because he was
Speaker 3: roommates with that guy.
Speaker 4: And not having an offensive coordinator, I mean in that
Speaker 4: seven O season twelve years Yeah, you know how important
Speaker 4: to recruiting, Like it's everything and you've i mean, Cutter
Speaker 4: Bowley has come in here.
Speaker 2: Oh it's works Gangarrillo. Oh wait no, actually Liam's back.
Speaker 2: I'm committed. Oh now Liam's gone. Like it's like he's
Speaker 2: a true freshman who's thought he was at his time
Speaker 2: at UK was gonna have three different coordinators. It's insane
Speaker 2: and some of that's not like some of that's honestly
Speaker 2: your guy, Liam Cohen's fault. Some of it is, you know,
Speaker 2: is you know Stoops had a miscalculation on Skangarrillo.
Speaker 1: But keep in mind, I do feel for Bush handed.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a great has been a great
Speaker 2: play caller this year, but he is what is he
Speaker 2: was handed this He his fingerprints are not on this
Speaker 2: offense at all.
Speaker 1: The thing was the memory we have of Liam. And
Speaker 1: I'm not excuse me not knocking him because he's done
Speaker 1: a great job. He's got a great relationship from the
Speaker 1: Rams days with Baker Mayfield's right, But when he got here,
Speaker 1: he had an NFL ready line, yes, and he had
Speaker 1: an NFL ready slot receiver and a quarterback and an
Speaker 1: NFL ready running back as well, exactly. So that's gonna
Speaker 1: make a lot of OC's look good. But he used
Speaker 1: them brilliantly. Right when he came back. Devin Leary kind
Speaker 1: of let him down a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And but I'll give him this. They averaged nine
Speaker 2: more points per game last year than they did that's
Speaker 2: correct under Skang and Skangerillo and Hamden, same exact number.
Speaker 2: Twenty point four. Wow, is what they're averaging literally to
Speaker 2: the t. They averaged twenty nine point one. I believe
Speaker 2: with Cohens, not great, but better. And again I don't
Speaker 2: blame Look, I'm a New England guy too. He's a
Speaker 2: New England guy. That's NFL country. The dream up there
Speaker 2: is to be in the NFL, and I truly believe
Speaker 2: that's what he wanted was to be an NFL play
Speaker 2: caller and he got an opportunity to do it. A
Speaker 2: guy in Baker Mayfield he's close with and with the
Speaker 2: team that was coming off you know, the divisional round
Speaker 2: of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's what we had when they hired him.
Speaker 1: When they hired him away from the Rams, it was
Speaker 1: like now, remember, folks, he didn't call plays for the Rams,
Speaker 1: you know, but knew how to do it obviously, but
Speaker 1: had had the weapons and use them extremely well. So
Speaker 1: but I do agree with Billy. I think, not that
Speaker 1: I'm trying to pile blame on people, and I do
Speaker 1: think they're better than they were last year because Kentucky
Speaker 1: has been able to.
Speaker 2: Run the football boggling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look look at the possessions against even Vandy, not
Speaker 1: to mention Ole miss and that's what's the most frustrating
Speaker 1: thing to me is they played brilliantly against Ole Miss
Speaker 1: and played really well. Speaking of Liam Cohen television, Yeah,
Speaker 1: bud against against Georgia, and at first I thought, well,
Speaker 1: maybe George is not quit. Yes it is. And everybody
Speaker 1: after that game, what's wrong with Georgia? No, Kentucky played
Speaker 1: really well there, did you know?
Speaker 2: And then they backed it up two weeks.
Speaker 1: That's what's like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a roller coaster the year. It's been bizarre.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what. This game against Auburn, who's
Speaker 2: not They're a very similar team where they're two and
Speaker 2: five and they have a good defense and a bad offense,
Speaker 2: Like this is as important of a game as I
Speaker 2: can remember.
Speaker 1: And Stoops is right, it's about turnovers. What about this?
Speaker 1: Turn them over? Yeah, don't make it happen.
Speaker 2: They don't do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pick up a pass, recover a fumble.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever seen a stat line
Speaker 3: like I did for DJ Lagway in that game, seven of.
Speaker 2: Thirty seven, a completion of seven thirty seven was yet
Speaker 2: I have no touchdown. I mean the one receiver Badger,
Speaker 2: he had three catches. It was like fifty fifty and
Speaker 2: forty one.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing, like if they were a fantasy league,
Speaker 1: no touchdown, yeah, yeah, if he had, if he had
Speaker 1: the running back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as a true freshman his first career.
Speaker 1: So you know, it was interesting two years ago down
Speaker 1: there where Kentucky wins, watching Kentucky in a place like
Speaker 1: the swamp, what is it ninety thousand? Yeah, plus take
Speaker 1: the crowd out out a game, and I'd seen it before,
Speaker 1: obviously under stoops. They had more than one game, but
Speaker 1: they've had success. They got two other wins, two wins
Speaker 1: down there, and they got hosed out of another one.
Speaker 1: Watching them, you know, well, Florida goes big play on
Speaker 1: two drives but has to settle for a field goal,
Speaker 1: and the crowd had to settle a bit, and then
Speaker 1: when Kentucky drove for a touchdown, it had to settle
Speaker 1: a bit. And when it the touchdown, I made a
Speaker 1: twenty seven twenty Was that Gavin Womens.
Speaker 2: That was the first drive of the first second half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think I've told you how fans
Speaker 1: liked to heckle any anybody down there that they know
Speaker 1: is from Kentucky. And this one particular girl every time
Speaker 1: I walk by or she would lean over and give
Speaker 1: me the gator chunk and make a face at me,
Speaker 1: and I just kind of smile. And then after givin
Speaker 1: Wims's scores, I turned around a shot to look at
Speaker 1: her and she had this look in her face like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and n I was looking at her.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, they have an open air press box.
Speaker 2: You'd really get a good vibe. Oh yeah, best in
Speaker 2: the sec from that perspective. And there was nerves in
Speaker 2: that stuff. Oh yeah, Gavin found the end. But the
Speaker 2: next thing, you know, right down exactly.
Speaker 1: So all right, we'll take a break, come back and
Speaker 1: talk more Kentucky football, maybe a little basketball as well,
Speaker 1: and we'll learn about wide receivers from Jeppe Coorro at
Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour here on the State Wide BBI.
Speaker 1: Welcome back. We're going to separate from football for just
Speaker 1: a moment because we have much more football coming up
Speaker 1: with Jeppichorro. Boy, we need to talk a little bit
Speaker 1: of basketball Blue White last Friday at Historic Memorial Coliseum
Speaker 1: and the first exhibition game Aaron on Wednesday, What do
Speaker 1: you expect to see?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, obviously I was in Florida, so I didn't
Speaker 2: get to watch the Blue and White game. You know,
Speaker 2: hard to think there was any TV there wasn't, which, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm sure he did. But I can go on a
Speaker 2: rant on the TV stuff. I'll leave it. I'll leave
Speaker 2: it alone for now.
Speaker 1: Because it's your birthright to see everything on TV. That's right.
Speaker 1: I pay for eighty seven subscriptions back in the day.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, No, but.
Speaker 2: What I'm just excited to see them place. It sounds
Speaker 2: like an easy answer, but I am. I'm excited to
Speaker 2: see them line up against somebody else and see this
Speaker 2: scheme in action, right. I mean, it's just feels like
Speaker 2: what's different between this team and Cols. It just feels
Speaker 2: like they're going to come in every game schematically like
Speaker 2: trying to do the same thing, which is open themselves
Speaker 2: up for three, have really good mall movement. Where it
Speaker 2: felt like, which is this is not even a critique,
Speaker 2: It's just like with Kentucky's offense under cal it was
Speaker 2: kind of like, yeah, it was the dribble drive, but
Speaker 2: it was also all right, whatever's working that game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like there wasn't always a dribble, right.
Speaker 2: But this is like their offense is what it is.
Speaker 2: It's like a football, like, this is our scheme, this
Speaker 2: is what we're going with, and I'm excited to see that.
Speaker 2: And I'm also excited to see them on the defensive end,
Speaker 2: not only just switching it up with different defenses. But
Speaker 2: one thing I feel like we still don't know about
Speaker 2: this team is just how physical they are from a
Speaker 2: rebounding and blocking shot standpoint. They have some size, They
Speaker 2: have some guys who are obviously Conference Players of the
Speaker 2: Year on the defense side of the ball, and Butler
Speaker 2: and Williams. But I want to see what type of
Speaker 2: rebounding team this is. That's one thing that it really
Speaker 2: feels like it sets the tone every year. If Kentucky's
Speaker 2: a good rebounding team, they have a great season. If
Speaker 2: they're not, they have a bad season. Last year they
Speaker 2: were kind of mediocre, and they had a bad season
Speaker 2: right a bad ending to the season.
Speaker 1: I'll share something with you youngsters. You know the name
Speaker 1: John Wooden. I'm sure, of course. John Wooden for many
Speaker 1: many years believed that the most important stat on a
Speaker 1: basketball sheet was rebound. Differentially, I'm right there with mister
Speaker 1: wood Well, but he changed later in his career. It's
Speaker 1: still very important, he thought, but he changed the shooting percentages.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that sided. I'm trying to remember. No,
Speaker 1: oh no, he was retired well before the three pointer,
Speaker 1: but he did change his mind on that. But he
Speaker 1: still put a lot of value in rebounding. You know
Speaker 1: where we're gonna see, Billy, We're gonna see Kentucky defend well,
Speaker 1: and we're not gonna get a great read in these
Speaker 1: expos Kentucky. Yeah, they're gonna overpower, but they're gonna defend well,
Speaker 1: rebound well, get out on a break and pull up
Speaker 1: short and shoot threes on the break, which people love.
Speaker 1: If it works, I will say.
Speaker 3: John Wooden also taught his players to put their socks
Speaker 3: and tie their shoes. May help with some Kentucky football players.
Speaker 1: Somewhere that's got to be written down that maybe they
Speaker 1: can fax it.
Speaker 3: They need to like put it on his locker but
Speaker 3: for the basketball, or just tie them for him. You know,
Speaker 3: we'll see a couple inbounds plays and that may be
Speaker 3: a little unfair.
Speaker 2: They might guard, they might guard, they might guard them.
Speaker 1: You know, actually, you know what, the one day I
Speaker 1: went to practice before Pro Day, they practiced guard guarding.
Speaker 3: The inbound Wow defense in practice my witness, it's amazing.
Speaker 2: We haven't started defensing.
Speaker 3: But you know, for years I have been looking at
Speaker 3: natots like a piece of candy. Oh, give me a
Speaker 3: piece of candy. I want a piece of candy. Give
Speaker 3: me a little naotes in my life. That's modern basketball.
Speaker 3: Forget this midrange craft. Let's shoot some threes. And Travis
Speaker 3: Perry told me they're shooting thirty five threes a game.
Speaker 3: I cannot wait to see my reaction to what thirty
Speaker 3: five threes?
Speaker 5: Again? Go in?
Speaker 2: If that's exactly right, because there will be night said does.
Speaker 1: Fans when they don't go in? Why didn't they stop shooting? Career,
Speaker 1: when a guy's going cold, why didn't they tell him
Speaker 1: to stop shooting? You know why shooters shoot? And something
Speaker 1: I learned from a fellow named Jack Gibbons when we
Speaker 1: were in school together one hundred years ago. He said,
Speaker 1: good shooters, great shooters. They know the next one's going in,
Speaker 1: so they're not going to stop. Coach, you have to
Speaker 1: take him out a game. I don't mean bad shots,
Speaker 1: but the other thing is go find one. You could
Speaker 1: make to your point about mid range.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think Pope has explicitly said that they
Speaker 3: are just going to shoot their way out of things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not gonna stop no, if it's a good three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I saw him stop practice one day and
Speaker 1: ask somebody was at the best shot you could get
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But I also saw him stop
Speaker 1: practice and ask somebody about a shot they took like
Speaker 1: two steps inside the arc, you know, like of a
Speaker 1: pump fake and something like that, and he's like, whoa,
Speaker 1: you know, you know they're gonna be held accountable.
Speaker 3: Well, and also passing with intention, right, Like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel like we've seen a lot of ball of
Speaker 3: movement in the clips that we've seen, and that's not
Speaker 3: just moving it to the next guy.
Speaker 2: Sorry, saw a little.
Speaker 3: Fumble there with the Tampa my Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But
Speaker 3: it's just it's gonna be different and that's a huge
Speaker 3: part of what we want. But for the exhibition game,
Speaker 3: they're definitely gonna be working out some kinks.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But Colin Chandler apparently is a lot better than what
Speaker 3: many people.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, and he's not as rusty after two.
Speaker 3: Years two years of no basketball.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I got to think he went out and
Speaker 1: shot a little bit, but not in competitive.
Speaker 3: Whatever they allow, Yeah, exactly during something like that.
Speaker 1: What I loved, and we talked about it on the
Speaker 1: pro day telecast, was the drill. Everybody who's even played
Speaker 1: church league basketball has done this three on two and
Speaker 1: then back the other way, or two on one or
Speaker 1: another one drops in. It's the Popovich drill where you
Speaker 1: have to know before the ball touches your hands where
Speaker 1: you're going to throw it, which side after right, and
Speaker 1: you have a half second to do it. That's all
Speaker 1: they want, the ball in your hands. They're going to
Speaker 1: see a lot of that as well. All right, more
Speaker 1: football will swing you back after the break here on
Speaker 1: the state wide BBI stayed with us. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: the big Blue and side air board of the Border,
Speaker 1: Pike Vila. That's not a mistake. We're gonna let our
Speaker 1: next guest, mister Jeffiicoro of the UK Sports Network back
Speaker 1: announced like he's an am DJ, this particular song a
Speaker 1: go ahead, mister p.
Speaker 5: I'm traveling down and run.
Speaker 1: Yeah, What's what's the name of it?
Speaker 5: Danny Joe Brown? That's Flirting with Disaster by Molly Hatchett,
Speaker 5: one of the great Southern rock bands of the seventies
Speaker 5: and eighties.
Speaker 1: And you requested it.
Speaker 5: Because well, he said, what would be your walk up song?
Speaker 5: So like, if if I was Aaron Judge, I would
Speaker 5: play this because you're flirting with disaster every time you
Speaker 5: threw a pitch of that dude, anything close. It's like
Speaker 5: Barry Bonds. Yeah, this is the best song ever for
Speaker 5: a baseball player to walk up to Sandman for a closer.
Speaker 5: I mean Marianna or Rivera had it. It's perfect, right.
Speaker 1: I love your stats where more people have walked on
Speaker 1: the moon than Mariano Rivera have given up what home
Speaker 1: runs or something in that what it is, that's a
Speaker 1: great stat.
Speaker 2: Mariano has only given up two home runs in the postseason.
Speaker 2: More people have walked on the more people have walked
Speaker 2: on the moon. That's amazing to me.
Speaker 1: See, Jeff, I thought this. I thought that choice of
Speaker 1: a song might have been about UK football, But.
Speaker 5: But you're not. Disaster to.
Speaker 1: Your name came up earlier.
Speaker 5: Jee guys. Yeah, well, just to me say one thing
Speaker 5: about this song, wort with disaster. Right, if Kentucky doesn't
Speaker 5: beat Auburn gets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, don't they don't. Jeff, Well, as I said,
Speaker 1: your name came up because we were trying to quantify
Speaker 1: uh Marion Brown's season. And I've mentioned the fact that
Speaker 1: after his freshman year, you and I when you came
Speaker 1: on the show and talked a lot about where they
Speaker 1: need to work in terms of route running. And I
Speaker 1: believe we've seen more and I think you do too,
Speaker 1: more progress from Dane Key than from Barrion. But is
Speaker 1: it harder for us to see that not having played
Speaker 1: the position A and B Barrion double team when he
Speaker 1: gets off the bus, so and we're not laying everything
Speaker 1: in his feet. We've talked a lot of about a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff, but what do you think.
Speaker 5: Well, not too much as he double team, but just
Speaker 5: the way that they defend him. So you know, if
Speaker 5: you play a two deep or a deep three deep zone,
Speaker 5: they're trying to keep everything in front of them, and
Speaker 5: so what basically happens is a lot of times he's
Speaker 5: getting what we call bracket coverage, meaning there's a guy
Speaker 5: underneath sure, and there's a guy over the top. So
Speaker 5: you know, it's just it's hard to fit it in
Speaker 5: certain windows. Now, to me, Baryon does his best work
Speaker 5: outside of the numbers. Okay, so he likes to stay
Speaker 5: the outside. Dank Key, on the other hand, is a
Speaker 5: bigger guy. Yeah, and he doesn't mind going over the middle. Now,
Speaker 5: you can get hammered going over the middle, but Dane
Speaker 5: it doesn't bother him to do that. And both of
Speaker 5: them have really worked hard with coach Schortz. I think
Speaker 5: he's done a great job with those guys, all the
Speaker 5: receivers for that matter, at running routes correctly, coming back
Speaker 5: to the football, not letting, not flattening your route so
Speaker 5: a guy can come underneath it for a pick six.
Speaker 5: Likely saw Saturday. The reason that happened Saturday was because
Speaker 5: you had a young quarterback making his first pass and
Speaker 5: he's throwing a forty yard out pattern that doesn't cut
Speaker 5: in the sec. You can't do that.
Speaker 1: I'll ask you the same question I put to the East.
Speaker 1: Two gentlemen here in the studio, or just make a comment.
Speaker 1: It was amazing to me how Kentucky struggled early and
Speaker 1: well in general, that the defense was victimized so much.
Speaker 1: But one point, Jeff, it's twenty seven to twenty, Kentucky's
Speaker 1: got the ball. It's a game, and then it all
Speaker 1: fell apart, you know, and Stoop's talked about today on
Speaker 1: a news conference and on his radio show as well.
Speaker 1: You gotta finish plays, but it's still you know, you
Speaker 1: look at the final score, that what a butt kick,
Speaker 1: and in many ways it was, but it was a
Speaker 1: game for quite a while.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, Yeah, And you know I watched I watched
Speaker 5: certain plays over again today in a certain series, and
Speaker 5: there were two plays in particular that stick out because
Speaker 5: we're they're the exact same play. One was Florida's on
Speaker 5: offense and one's Kentucky on offense. Both of them were
Speaker 5: goal to goal situations. The first one was their running
Speaker 5: back ball whatever his first name is, I don't remember. Now,
Speaker 5: I let the get out. He's he's stopped. He doesn't
Speaker 5: get to the goal line. Okay, that's not a touchdown.
Speaker 5: I have no idea. I've watched it in every different
Speaker 5: conceivable angle they have, kidding, the ball does not cross
Speaker 5: the ball does not cross the line. Okay. What happened
Speaker 5: was the one judge from the far side forty yards
Speaker 5: away from the ball touch down and then he drops
Speaker 5: his hands immediately like, oh dang, maybe I screw yeah.
Speaker 5: And then but what I'm saying is they let that
Speaker 5: play continue all the way until he stretches the ball
Speaker 5: out and I don't think the ball got over. I
Speaker 5: think it was cut short. Okay. Then the same play
Speaker 5: with Demi. He's initially stopped, but then the second theary
Speaker 5: boost pushes him all the way inside the one yard line.
Speaker 5: Yet the side judge come flying in because when he's tackled,
Speaker 5: when he's down, the ball is close to the goal line,
Speaker 5: he's laying across the one. Yet they put it back
Speaker 5: to like where his feet were. Yep, so they stopped.
Speaker 5: They let one play go and they stopped the second.
Speaker 5: That is what's frustrating to a code.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely I had a good look at the Florida play.
Speaker 1: I had a great look at the Kentucky play. I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe my eyes. And I kept waiting for them
Speaker 1: to call for a review, a booth review or not
Speaker 1: a booth review. But you know, and I was stunned.
Speaker 1: And you know, you and Tom are talking about that.
Speaker 1: And I will tell you that on the Florida touchdown,
Speaker 1: the guy who put his hands up, you see that
Speaker 1: all the time he's needed the line judge of the
Speaker 1: hend linesman. That's you know, because it's anybody's call if
Speaker 1: they see it, but that's one of his cheap responsibilities.
Speaker 1: But buddy, he did not sell that. And I told
Speaker 1: these guys earlier, I honestly think he shut his hands
Speaker 1: up in the here because the Florida kids, did you know?
Speaker 1: And then he pulled him back like town, yeah, but
Speaker 1: he pulled him down like did anybody see me call that?
Speaker 1: And so that was maddening. And you think about it,
Speaker 1: if they take that in, wouldn't that have tied the game?
Speaker 1: If on the Kentucky play.
Speaker 5: Yes. The thing that's funny too is when you listen
Speaker 5: because I'm watching today. I watched the TV, so I'm
Speaker 5: here and a Dave and them make the call and
Speaker 5: they were like, Annie stopped for it, touchdown? Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: he hesitated, Annie touch down And you're like he's like
Speaker 5: this malea guy's good. But you know, but that's not
Speaker 5: what did it? Look this Florida went out there and
Speaker 5: kicked there, you know what I mean? They from the
Speaker 5: opening kickoff, they pushed Kentucky around like nobody's business. I
Speaker 5: didn't think i'd see that this year. With the size
Speaker 5: and strength Kentucky has on that defensive line, they just
Speaker 5: got blown out, they got blown out of there. It
Speaker 5: was it was something you see what Guimo used to
Speaker 5: call big boy football. You know. They just came in
Speaker 5: there and said, look, three years in a row, these
Speaker 5: guys had kicked our We're turning the tables and it's
Speaker 5: starting up front. And I think they challenged those guys
Speaker 5: and those guys prevailed. And it was from the first
Speaker 5: kick because as soon as as soon as Kentucky wins
Speaker 5: the toss, and this has happened to them. And I
Speaker 5: don't know what's wrong that first series, Vanderbilt right down
Speaker 5: the field, touchdown, Florida right down the field, touching again,
Speaker 5: and then they settle in you know, yeah, but I
Speaker 5: mean they go down and.
Speaker 2: Jeff talking about getting beat just physically. Offensive line, pass
Speaker 2: protection been bad all year.
Speaker 1: Left tack. You brought it up.
Speaker 2: I think it was you that brought up in the
Speaker 2: press conference today. Malchi would played I think the last
Speaker 2: thirty one snaps the right tackle and that many he
Speaker 2: played better than Mincy. You didn't notice because he was
Speaker 2: playing pretty good football properly. Would you make that switch
Speaker 2: at this point? I mean it, I know Mincy has
Speaker 2: been hobbled and I don't want to pile on him,
Speaker 2: but yeah, he's.
Speaker 5: Been I agree, Aaron. I think that The other thing
Speaker 5: too is Courtland was available in the game, he could
Speaker 5: have played, and now he'll be back and he'll be
Speaker 5: even better this coming Saturday. So you really, now are
Speaker 5: you have two players that can at least take some
Speaker 5: snaps who have played. I mean, look, say what you
Speaker 5: want about Courtland Ford. He started what sixteen college football
Speaker 5: teams year. He's got some experience. Yeah, he's got some experience.
Speaker 5: And Malachi is a work in progress. But you're molding
Speaker 5: a huge body, you know.
Speaker 3: Jeff, there was a fourth down late in the game
Speaker 3: where both dan Key and Barryon Brown weren't in the game,
Speaker 3: and alluded to that a little bit on his show
Speaker 3: tonight talking about personnel grouping issues. Just as somebody that's
Speaker 3: played football, how does that happen that you don't have
Speaker 3: your two best receivers.
Speaker 5: On the field, Dick I said it when they came
Speaker 5: out of the huddle, right, I'm like, there's hardly Gilmore
Speaker 5: and Maclin and I'm like, yeah, I was like, I
Speaker 5: think it was Brown Stevens that was that was in
Speaker 5: because he had done that a couple of times earlier too,
Speaker 5: But what whatever the point is on on a third
Speaker 5: down or a fourth down situation, you think they're going
Speaker 5: to put joker in or me in. The Joker's gonna
Speaker 5: be playing. You know, you guys don't even know who
Speaker 5: I'm talking about, do Yeah? I mean what you have
Speaker 5: to go with your one. I don't care if you're gassed,
Speaker 5: get your budy in there and get open to have
Speaker 5: both of them about.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 5: Can't have that happen.
Speaker 1: Was about the package of plays they were running, you know,
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 5: That the Taylor the package.
Speaker 1: You know what I was about to say, call something else, right,
Speaker 1: I think that's where we're heading.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and here's the other thing. What we all know
Speaker 5: what they now call the NFL the tush push right
Speaker 5: where they everybody lines up over the center and you
Speaker 5: can try to push the guy in there right And
Speaker 5: now it's the same thing in college. But what are
Speaker 5: the pros starting to do? They line up like that
Speaker 5: and the quarterback doesn't go off the middle. He takes
Speaker 5: a jab step and goes over to the left or
Speaker 5: the right in the little bit of a hole that
Speaker 5: that's made. And the reason they do that is because
Speaker 5: Florida had a guy that looked like Grimace in the
Speaker 5: middle of four hundred. Okay, I don't care who Dormani
Speaker 5: Dawson couldn't move that guy because he's just he's just
Speaker 5: too massive, you know, and in pads he was probably
Speaker 5: for sixty. So that's an immovable object. So that area
Speaker 5: above the center, you're just you're not moving that guy
Speaker 5: and can't run that place.
Speaker 1: That move that you just talked about. Wasn't that what
Speaker 1: made Tom Brady so effected? He was the best, yes,
Speaker 1: QB there was, but there had to be a reason
Speaker 1: to the side. Yeah, he wasn't the biggest guy in
Speaker 1: the world, but he was so much better at it.
Speaker 1: Plus you know the tush push if you if you
Speaker 1: look at it, the Eagles were so great at it.
Speaker 1: And people say it's because Jason Kelsey, uh would would
Speaker 1: be the lowest guy, which may may well be true.
Speaker 1: But it's not just shove everybody in the back, because team,
Speaker 1: team after team, we've seen it, Kentucky you want them
Speaker 1: at times fails at it, you know.
Speaker 5: I mean, look, you could go back in time and
Speaker 5: pick any game, even your Bart Starr the Ice Bowl.
Speaker 5: He didn't go right over centers right, he went over
Speaker 5: Forrest greg and.
Speaker 1: Landed in the behind.
Speaker 5: Jerry Kramber. And you know the best example that Dick
Speaker 5: and these guys again are too young was Mark Higgs
Speaker 5: against Tennessee. Right, Yes, fourth straight time, Yes, right up
Speaker 5: the middle.
Speaker 1: Yep, Jeff, how concerned are you?
Speaker 2: I mean, Florida had a great receiving court, but how
Speaker 2: concerned are you about some of these deep balls that
Speaker 2: are starting to get hit on Kentucky's DBS.
Speaker 5: With with very very much concerned, very very concerning, because look,
Speaker 5: Mark's not throwing anybody under the bus, and I'm not either.
Speaker 5: What I said was, it is a great scheme that
Speaker 5: Florida runs. It's not a rudimentary you know it was
Speaker 5: you know, you're forcing a guy to make a decision
Speaker 5: on the one that was the long one to the
Speaker 5: guy that caught like three passes for nine hundred yards. Yeah,
Speaker 5: tye is they're playing I think quarters in that game,
Speaker 5: which means you know that you each have a quadrant
Speaker 5: of the field. If he goes to his right, he
Speaker 5: throws it to Bagley or whatever his name was. If
Speaker 5: he goes to his left, he throws to the guy
Speaker 5: that's uh that's in the sea, so you know, is
Speaker 5: a great play conceived. Again, it was just it's one
Speaker 5: of those where it's like and and Brad told us this,
Speaker 5: Uh told me a Tomnis that you know, they had
Speaker 5: the perfect they had the perfect play called against the
Speaker 5: perfect defense. It was, you know, it was just everything
Speaker 5: was exactly right by the offense to call that play
Speaker 5: against that defense because one of those two guys is
Speaker 5: going to be open and and the poor you know,
Speaker 5: the safety is stuck if he goes left. They thought right,
Speaker 5: if he goes right, they thought it left, you know.
Speaker 5: And it's just it was a perfect play golf of
Speaker 5: that for the way that defense was.
Speaker 1: It happened too much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but but but but it's happening. Yeah, it's happening
Speaker 5: two months and I don't, you know, I just I
Speaker 5: don't know what the answer is that at that spot.
Speaker 5: But the answer is this, guys, you can't give the
Speaker 5: quarterbacks time to sit back there and wait for the
Speaker 5: five seconds for that play to develop, which those took. Look,
Speaker 5: those passes were forty and fifty yard passes. You're in
Speaker 5: pads coming off a line of scrimmage against the defender.
Speaker 5: It's gonna take you four or five seconds to get
Speaker 5: down there, and if a quarterback doesn't have to move,
Speaker 5: there's not a whole heck of a lot of defensive
Speaker 5: back can do against that.
Speaker 3: Jeff, let me ask you something. This has been a
Speaker 3: surprising year, whether it be Vandy beating teams like Alabama
Speaker 3: or Kentucky just you know, falling flat on their face
Speaker 3: a little bit late in the year. But you know,
Speaker 3: they play Auburn this weekend. It's another home game, and
Speaker 3: they're two and ten in their last twelve sec home games.
Speaker 3: Do you think that's a coincidence or do you think
Speaker 3: that there's something to the mindset of a team when
Speaker 3: they play at home?
Speaker 5: You know what? That's questions have been asked to Stoops,
Speaker 5: and he said, look, I've talked to the guys. We've
Speaker 5: tried to figure out different stuff. I've tried to, you know,
Speaker 5: change things around. I don't know, Billy, I don't know
Speaker 5: how to answer that question. I mean, that's one of
Speaker 5: those crazy things that for whatever reason, this team just
Speaker 5: doesn't play well at home. And I don't know how
Speaker 5: to answer.
Speaker 1: Did you ever play it any of the teams you
Speaker 1: were part of, because you told me I thought it
Speaker 1: was interesting, Jeff when you said, uh, you weren't crazy
Speaker 1: about homecoming.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just because, Yeah, there's a ton of distractions
Speaker 5: if you're at if it's your homecoming.
Speaker 1: So if it's.
Speaker 5: Kentucky's at home and it's homecoming, there's so much going on, right,
Speaker 5: you know, it's usually it's homecoming your girlfriend or your
Speaker 5: wife or whoever. You know, there's just there's so much.
Speaker 5: And then if you're if it's you that are the
Speaker 5: guys on the road at homecoming, then you're like, Okay,
Speaker 5: this team think those they can beat you. You know
Speaker 5: they're scheduling you is their homecoming upon it for a reason.
Speaker 5: You know, you want to win on homecoming. Sure you
Speaker 5: ever want to be that team on the road either,
Speaker 5: But to me, that gives you a little bit of
Speaker 5: a chip on your shoulder, I would hope.
Speaker 2: Kay, Jeff, Kentucky is oh and two and homecoming games
Speaker 2: this year they lost their own and they lost Florida's.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Tennessee is doing that. They did announce today they're doing
Speaker 2: the blackout again.
Speaker 1: Some of those games of the twelve have been against
Speaker 1: pretty good upon us. But other than those, you got
Speaker 1: Vandy two or three times you get South Carolina a
Speaker 1: couple three times, so games they should have one. Some
Speaker 1: of the games they could have won, but other games
Speaker 1: they should have one. Before we let you go, you
Speaker 1: were talking about your your walk up as a baseball player.
Speaker 1: But Yankees, Dodgers. You grew up a Reds fan. You
Speaker 1: work for the Reds Network forever. As our good friend
Speaker 1: Doug Flynn tells us, any of the vintage Reds fans
Speaker 1: around here hate the Dodgers. Sorry, Mark story, but what
Speaker 1: do you see?
Speaker 5: I see? I really see two of the best teams
Speaker 5: in baseball. I mean both of their lineups are ridiculous. Offensively,
Speaker 5: there's no there, there's no break for a bit that's
Speaker 5: in a lot. Excuse me. In baseball, you're always looking
Speaker 5: where that pitcher can take a breath, you know, Oh
Speaker 5: here here comes. And again I'm not knocking Doug Flynn,
Speaker 5: but when Doug Flynn went up to bat against Sandy Kofax,
Speaker 5: he's like, all right, I got this guy. You know
Speaker 5: that's just because it's well, but it's not Rose Bench,
Speaker 5: Morgan Peret. You know what I'm getting that if I
Speaker 5: got up to bat, they're like, okay, I can take
Speaker 5: a break against this, I'm not I'm not knocking Doug.
Speaker 5: There's no break on these teams. You know, they're they're
Speaker 5: just they're so good. And then the second thing is this,
Speaker 5: I'm amazed at the pitching both of these teams. If
Speaker 5: you put their pitching staffs against some others, both of
Speaker 5: these pitching staffs don't stack up because of all the
Speaker 5: injuries both of them have. It's pretty amazing to me
Speaker 5: the way that they can piece mail things. And and
Speaker 5: I think it started what was that five years ago
Speaker 5: when Kansas City UH started doing the what did you
Speaker 5: what did they call him? Yeah, when they had the picture,
Speaker 5: well they just called him then a starting picture. He
Speaker 5: was the opener. Ye yeah. It was like out, yeah,
Speaker 5: how many how many outs can I get with this guy?
Speaker 5: If I sticks it out, I'm great. If I get five,
Speaker 5: I'm okay, two or three, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Jeff, Well, thank you so much, and we will be
Speaker 1: listening for you on the Wildcat Whip this week, and
Speaker 1: of course on Kentucky coverage of the Auburn game. Thank you, sir,
Speaker 1: Thank guys. We'll come back and wrap it up in
Speaker 1: just a minute here on the state wide BBI. Thanks again,
Speaker 1: to mister Bricoro. Just about a minute left, Billy or
Speaker 1: Liam Cohen led Buccaneers looked like they had a second touchdown,
Speaker 1: but that was taking off the board. And do I
Speaker 1: understand it right? Luke Fordner is no longer starting at
Speaker 1: center for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Is the London Jaguars, the
Speaker 1: London game and five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like Mike.
Speaker 1: Giants, My Packers got a big win yesterday. They marched
Speaker 1: down the field against a good Houston used to a
Speaker 1: brand new kicker.
Speaker 5: I was on.
Speaker 1: We hired a kicker with missed five field goals and
Speaker 1: they finally cut itea.
Speaker 2: I was on a flight home and someone on the
Speaker 2: airplane said, yes, it's good and I had to go
Speaker 2: and search what game it was, and sure enough.
Speaker 1: Jordan Love proven the doubt is wrong. Looks like I
Speaker 1: was one of them to the middle of last year
Speaker 1: you were I could not watch the game. I don't
Speaker 1: have the whatever NFL package, but I was doing some airs.
Speaker 1: Listen to it on the radio, Wayne Larvie. Wonderful experience.
Speaker 1: Wonderful experience.
Speaker 5: How to do it?
Speaker 1: Thanks to Billy, Thanks to Aaron that said good night
Speaker 1: from Lexington