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Speaker 2: You know, it just hit me a moment ago. I
Speaker 2: needed that. What I mean is I needed those two
Speaker 2: hours to you know, to get through it. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I'm over it yet as far as what
Speaker 2: happened between Louisville and Stanford on Saturday, but without having
Speaker 2: the postgame show, like, I didn't have my my therapy
Speaker 2: to kind of talk through it, and I'm glad that
Speaker 2: I didn't, because, you know, it was able to just
Speaker 2: avoid it. I went out to a concert with my
Speaker 2: wife for her birthday and some of our friends. So
Speaker 2: it was a great night. And it was really good
Speaker 2: timing for terrible loss like that to happen to where
Speaker 2: I can just put my phone in my pocket and
Speaker 2: then you know, act like it didn't happen and enjoy
Speaker 2: good night with friends. So that was, you know, that
Speaker 2: was good. But you know, I woke up Sunday morning realizing, one,
Speaker 2: I'm thirty six now, so so I probably shouldn't, you know,
Speaker 2: probably shouldn't be partying like I'm you know, twenty five anymore.
Speaker 2: But anyways, then I thought about, you know, what, what
Speaker 2: did happen and how Louisville lost that game, and it really,
Speaker 2: you know, it still doesn't seem real as far as
Speaker 2: these specific things that happened in the end of the
Speaker 2: game that led to Stanford being able to win that
Speaker 2: game by a last second field goal in regulation. And
Speaker 2: I'm sure you can say this about a couple of
Speaker 2: games every every week, maybe in college football where the
Speaker 2: end result like if you'd ask somebody, hey, what do
Speaker 2: you think happened that led to this? I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: there's always things you want that you don't expect. But
Speaker 2: for Louisville to have incomplete passes on that last drive
Speaker 2: at midfield and not take up a whole lot of
Speaker 2: time and then Stanford to get, you know, to get
Speaker 2: those two penalties that Louisville you know, clearly commit, I mean,
Speaker 2: like it it still doesn't seem real, but yes, it
Speaker 2: was real. So it still sucks when I say that, like,
Speaker 2: you know, I needed that. It's not like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to think about it ever again. I'm
Speaker 2: over it. But like you know, we've had a very
Speaker 2: caller driven show today, which we can certainly do that
Speaker 2: in the five o'clock hour. But you know, the conversation
Speaker 2: hasn't been super positive. But I hadn't really talked about
Speaker 2: it with anybody. I was trying not to. I was
Speaker 2: avoiding it because you know, it sucked in a major way.
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Speaker 2: Sports Talk seven ninety. But I'll just quickly kind of
Speaker 2: reset for those just now joining us when it comes
Speaker 2: to the Louisville football situation. They're six and four. They
Speaker 2: could finish eight and four, They could easily finish six
Speaker 2: and six, Like, no result would surprise me as of
Speaker 2: right now. But I felt like, really all year, this
Speaker 2: has just been a weird season, and I still think
Speaker 2: that's valid now. I mean, look, the Clemson game is
Speaker 2: the outlier. It's proof that they can play well against
Speaker 2: good teams and not make killer mistakes that keep them
Speaker 2: from being able to win games. But as bad as
Speaker 2: Saturday was, if you just consider every little thing that
Speaker 2: happened that ended in Louisville losing a game that a
Speaker 2: lot of people, myself included, think it's the worst loss
Speaker 2: Louisvel's ever had. Now, again that's all opinion. That's just
Speaker 2: everybody's got their own preferences when it comes to that.
Speaker 2: As far as which game you know stands out to
Speaker 2: them as the worst loss, I think that's the worst
Speaker 2: loss because of how bad Stanford was. I mean they
Speaker 2: didn't won a game in two months. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: nobody there. And then you also consider, you know, what
Speaker 2: Louisville had to do to crumble and melt down and
Speaker 2: give that game away late. Like I think it's the
Speaker 2: worst I really do. But if you consider what led
Speaker 2: to it, maybe all of those mistakes being made, like
Speaker 2: that's the ultimate, like how do you do that? But
Speaker 2: the type of mistakes it's really kind of been who
Speaker 2: they've been for you know, they've been they've been that
Speaker 2: team that makes the avoidable mistake that's not disciplined, you know,
Speaker 2: just terrible timing for mistakes and mental goofs. They've been
Speaker 2: that more consistently than they've not been that right. And
Speaker 2: that's why it's weird because I think the team has
Speaker 2: good players, Like I don't. I mean, the offense is good.
Speaker 2: The offense isn't the problem. I mean not to say
Speaker 2: that they're perfect and they make mistakes too, but like,
Speaker 2: you know, just think about this. You had a true
Speaker 2: freshman running back who I think, I mean, no offense
Speaker 2: to Michael Bush, who's a legend. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 2: if you look at what Isaac Brown has done this
Speaker 2: year against before Saturday's game, Loisville had played a top
Speaker 2: fifteen schedule, and he's been getting a good amount of
Speaker 2: carries as of late. But like it's not like he's
Speaker 2: the only guy getting carries. The production from Isaac Brown
Speaker 2: as a true freshman is one of the best freshmen
Speaker 2: see I've ever seen at Louisville. And I don't have
Speaker 2: a problem, and I'm sure this is a little recency biased.
Speaker 2: I think it's the best I've ever seen. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's how good he's been. When you look at the
Speaker 2: amount of yards he's getting per carry per game and
Speaker 2: against who he's doing it against again, we're talking about
Speaker 2: somebody who before Saturday, Louisville had played a top twelve
Speaker 2: schedule depending on where you're looking. So he gets hurt,
Speaker 2: doesn't come back, which is pretty worrisome, right. Jeff didn't
Speaker 2: give us much an update other than you know, we'll
Speaker 2: see how he progresses the rest of the week, which
Speaker 2: that's really what he's done all year. But you get
Speaker 2: you know, you have that star freshman at running back
Speaker 2: go to the bench or go to the sideline in
Speaker 2: the locker room because he's hurt. And then you throw
Speaker 2: another true freshman running back out there, Duke Watson, who
Speaker 2: was phenomenal. I mean, to Corey Brooks is insanely good.
Speaker 2: Probably one of the more talented receivers we'll ever have here.
Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck. I mean, he's not perfect, but I think
Speaker 2: he's good and I'd love to have him many more
Speaker 2: years than just the one year that we're getting him. Defensively,
Speaker 2: they're a mess, right, but not because of personnel. So
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, if I told you this this
Speaker 2: season was a disaster, and it's you know, it's it's
Speaker 2: terrible like that. I mean, I'm frustrated, like anybody else,
Speaker 2: but like it's not because I'm like, oh man, what happened?
Speaker 2: We don't have any good players, Like we stink. I mean,
Speaker 2: technically we don't stink. You're six and four, but expectations
Speaker 2: were higher than that, and they're always going to be.
Speaker 2: But I think the expectations were justified. I don't think
Speaker 2: we were crazy to say, hey, this team, they got
Speaker 2: a chance to be pretty good, and if they go
Speaker 2: eight and four, then yeah, we'll sit back and say
Speaker 2: that there was some head scratching results along the way,
Speaker 2: some heartbreaking losses that you feel like you could have
Speaker 2: won and it would have been big for your season.
Speaker 2: But if they do that, it's still not going to
Speaker 2: be a year where I say, man, that was a failure.
Speaker 2: But they also could go six and six, And I
Speaker 2: don't really know what kind of conversations we're going to
Speaker 2: have if that happens. I mean, we gotta be honest.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to have a conversation about
Speaker 2: who the head coach should be. I think even those
Speaker 2: most frustrated and most critical of Jeff Brohm aren't going there.
Speaker 2: But his staff, I mean, I don't think you'll see
Speaker 2: a scenario where his boss, Josh Hurt like tells him, look,
Speaker 2: you're good, but you've got to make a change. I
Speaker 2: think they're going to trust Jeff to do what he
Speaker 2: thinks makes the most sense. And I think that's understandable.
Speaker 2: But I'd say from a defensive standpoint, like, I don't
Speaker 2: know how you could bring Ron English back. I don't
Speaker 2: know how you would justify that as you know, the
Speaker 2: right move, because again the defense this year, them being unorganized,
Speaker 2: them not being able to communicate. Ron English initially telling
Speaker 2: us before the season started that, you know, he took
Speaker 2: blame for last year's struggles at the end of the
Speaker 2: year defensively, and then when he was asked about it,
Speaker 2: what a week ago, two weeks ago, whenever it was.
Speaker 2: I mean, he basically said that he thought that the
Speaker 2: players would be a little bit more they'd have a
Speaker 2: little bit better mental capacity to retain things to where
Speaker 2: they didn't need to simplify it so much. I'm paraphrasing,
Speaker 2: but like it went from him taking accountability saying, hey,
Speaker 2: put it on me, to him saying, you know, we
Speaker 2: wanted to do this, but these guys, we thought with
Speaker 2: all the ball they'd played and being very experienced guys
Speaker 2: that had played college football for years. We thought they'd
Speaker 2: be able to adjust to it, and they haven't been. Like,
Speaker 2: that's throwing the players under the bus. That sounds like
Speaker 2: a guy named Kenny Payne, to be honest with you.
Speaker 2: So I would imagine that they probably make a change there,
Speaker 2: But again that's just I'm just assuming like everybody else now,
Speaker 2: I don't think it needs to be said. But while
Speaker 2: the hell not, I still don't have any doubt in
Speaker 2: my mind that Jeff Brom is a really good coach
Speaker 2: and he's good enough for us at Louisville, and I
Speaker 2: think we're lucky to have him. I think Louisville football
Speaker 2: has the has the chance to be super competitive at
Speaker 2: the top of the ACC for years to come with
Speaker 2: him as the head coach. I think the ceiling is
Speaker 2: higher with him here than anybody we've had I do.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think, heck, that was proven last year
Speaker 2: you made the AEC Championship game and his first season
Speaker 2: as the head coach. So I mean, I still think
Speaker 2: Jeff Brom has or critics maybe that he's ever had
Speaker 2: around here. But I still think the vast majority, and
Speaker 2: I mean nearly every Louisville fan that I know of
Speaker 2: as much as they're down and disappointed, and they are
Speaker 2: saying Jeff's got to get a dixt it's on him.
Speaker 2: I don't think you have anybody out there thinking that,
Speaker 2: like we got a problem with who the head coach is.
Speaker 2: But you know, head coaches got to rely on his staff,
Speaker 2: and that's one of the things that we really don't know,
Speaker 2: like whenever he's talking to Greg Brahm on the sideline
Speaker 2: there before they make a big crucial decision, like we
Speaker 2: don't know like is he getting bad advice and trusting it,
Speaker 2: or is he getting good advice and not wanting to,
Speaker 2: you know, hand over the or maybe he just wants
Speaker 2: to trust his gut, Like I don't know, But I
Speaker 2: think defensively, that's the one, you know, the d c
Speaker 2: ron Anglis, that's the one physician on the staff that
Speaker 2: I would be shocked if there's not some kind of
Speaker 2: a change. But as a mention, I'm I'm just assuming
Speaker 2: and guessing like everybody else's. But back to Jeff really
Speaker 2: quick here. He said it earlier today and I don't
Speaker 2: even remember what the question was, but it hit me,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's saying that again, because he said it
Speaker 2: a lot this year, and it's a guy taking accountability.
Speaker 2: It's not like it's I mean, it's I think it's
Speaker 2: really what you should say. And that is when asked
Speaker 2: about how the defense was unorganized or how they made
Speaker 2: us you know, not just the defense, but anybody made
Speaker 2: a silly penalty or just any mistake or any misqueue
Speaker 2: that led to you not being able to go win
Speaker 2: a football game, he says, that can't happen. That can happen,
Speaker 2: can't happen. And again I'm not criticizing him for saying that,
Speaker 2: but you know what, like it keeps happening. These kind
Speaker 2: of things have happened all year, So you know, he's
Speaker 2: as frustrated and as angry disappointed as anybody that this
Speaker 2: is where they sit, because I think he knows this
Speaker 2: team should be a lot better. He knows it's his
Speaker 2: responsibility to have a team out there that is more
Speaker 2: discipline that's not you know, towards the bottom of the
Speaker 2: acc and penalties, making mistakes that are avoidable that are
Speaker 2: costing you football games. Like he knows that that's on
Speaker 2: him and that that's something that shouldn't be where it is,
Speaker 2: right now and now it's going to be on him
Speaker 2: to fix it. It's going to be on him to
Speaker 2: try to get this thing finished the right way. Winning
Speaker 2: your last two games, of course, easier said than done.
Speaker 2: And then in the offseason trying to figure out what
Speaker 2: you want to do as far as the staff, and
Speaker 2: obviously in the portal that's going to be huge, and
Speaker 2: I do want to get to that coming up here.
Speaker 2: We'll do that probably around five twenty five or so,
Speaker 2: because the whole portal question. You know, nobody knows who's
Speaker 2: actually going to be going to the portal anywhere right now,
Speaker 2: but obviously Louisville when you look at them being dead
Speaker 2: last in the ACC when it comes to the recruiting
Speaker 2: class rankings for twenty twenty five. Yeah, it's not a
Speaker 2: good sign. But and I'm not telling you that that's
Speaker 2: good and we should celebrate it. But I think Jeff
Speaker 2: has pretty much told us in his first couple of
Speaker 2: years here he's going to recruit high school kids, but
Speaker 2: he is going to embrace the portal and build his
Speaker 2: roster that way every year if he can, meaning like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll take some talented freshman like Duke Watson and Isaac Brown,
Speaker 2: But he's also going to go out there, like he
Speaker 2: has no problem going and getting the guy who's got
Speaker 2: one year left and having to start that whole process
Speaker 2: over again the next year. And you got to make
Speaker 2: sure you get good players, and you got to make
Speaker 2: sure they fit with what you want to do, and
Speaker 2: you got to have money to go buy them, essentially.
Speaker 2: But that's what he's going to do. And I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you not to worry about high school recruiting,
Speaker 2: but I just don't think that's going to be really
Speaker 2: worth much as far as like you need to get
Speaker 2: good freshmen. And if you get a really talented freshman,
Speaker 2: look we're seeing it right now at running back, they
Speaker 2: can help you win right away if they're that good
Speaker 2: and you got a good line in front of them.
Speaker 2: So you're always gonna want to bring in talent. But
Speaker 2: how the rankings are put together, like why you end
Speaker 2: up at number ten or number twenty or maybe top
Speaker 2: five whatever, like that value I mean isn't really Like
Speaker 2: I wish we got rid of portal rankings. I wish
Speaker 2: we got rid of recruiting rankings all together, and we
Speaker 2: just had the off season roster management ranking to where
Speaker 2: your factor again, who did the best job when it
Speaker 2: comes to just making their roster better, doesn't matter if
Speaker 2: they did it based off of forty percent freshman, sixty
Speaker 2: percent Antsper's vice versa. Like, I think that would be
Speaker 2: a better thing for people to run with when it
Speaker 2: comes to talking about recruiting and the portal and that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. But anyways, we'll get to that coming
Speaker 2: up here a little bit later on. Now. We have
Speaker 2: had a pretty busy show this afternoon when it comes
Speaker 2: to phone calls, So if you guys want to jump in,
Speaker 2: you can five OO two, I have seven one, seventy
Speaker 2: nine hundred. Whenever you know, have a loss like that,
Speaker 2: it kind of just consumes the show, especially whenever there
Speaker 2: wasn't and I didn't do a postgame show, but I
Speaker 2: do want to talk quickly about what happened on Friday
Speaker 2: night between Mike Tyson and Jake Paul. I mean, that
Speaker 2: thing quite literally played out exactly like I would have expected.
Speaker 2: They were going to go the full distance. Nobody was
Speaker 2: getting knocked out, and there were what sixty million people
Speaker 2: that tuned in to watch it like it was all
Speaker 2: for entertainment, And really that's where I do tip my
Speaker 2: cap to Jake Paul because he's I mean, if you've
Speaker 2: got sixty people that are that are wanting to watch
Speaker 2: you because they hate you, will love you. You're an entertainer,
Speaker 2: like you're captivating them one way or the other, and
Speaker 2: they want to either see you maybe get your brains
Speaker 2: beat in by somebody that they used to consider this
Speaker 2: most dangerous man on the planet, or they want to
Speaker 2: see you win because you know, maybe they're just fans
Speaker 2: of you. So you know, he is very good at
Speaker 2: what he does. Now, I don't know how good of
Speaker 2: a boxer. He's clearly he's good, but like you know,
Speaker 2: I don't even think he cares about that. He's just
Speaker 2: going to keep doing this as long as he can.
Speaker 2: And I've yet to see a Jake Paul. You know,
Speaker 2: tell made for TV event boxing whatever it is, that
Speaker 2: has been anything but a success when it comes to
Speaker 2: viewership and money. But again, I'm telling you, man, it
Speaker 2: played out exactly the way I thought it was going to. Now,
Speaker 2: one thing that is different, right, because sports is entertainment.
Speaker 2: When you watch Monday night Football Tonight or whatever you
Speaker 2: choose to watch, you're watching it because you want to
Speaker 2: be entertained, Like that's what it is. But there's nothing
Speaker 2: worse than any type of result that you know was predetermined, right, Like,
Speaker 2: there's like if it was I mean again, this was
Speaker 2: like professional wrestling. You'll have your niche audience, and clearly
Speaker 2: a lot of people watch wrestling. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 2: why Netflix paid what a billion dollars or whatever it
Speaker 2: is to have the new rights to the Monday night
Speaker 2: Raw television show. So like, but just you know, there's
Speaker 2: something do you feel like you got conned if in
Speaker 2: fact this thing was totally scripted, which I think it was,
Speaker 2: Like again, I can't prove that they're pretty savvy about
Speaker 2: like you know, not having any real slippage of like
Speaker 2: receipts that show. Hey, here's where he told me. This
Speaker 2: was what was gonna happen. Everybody's getting so stinking rich
Speaker 2: from this stuff. They're not gonna like you think Mike
Speaker 2: Tyson would have done probably whatever the hell Jake Paul
Speaker 2: wanted him to do for twenty million dollars. Like Mike
Speaker 2: Tyson lost all his money when he was whenever, you know,
Speaker 2: he fouled bankruptcy after he'd lost like everything, So you know,
Speaker 2: it worked props to those guys, But like I think,
Speaker 2: again I said it on Friday, it just kind of
Speaker 2: feels like everybody's into it there to watch and they
Speaker 2: want to believe that it's real, but they kind of
Speaker 2: deep down know that it's not, or believe that it's not,
Speaker 2: and then you tune in and like, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I literally think that could have could not
Speaker 2: have played out any more the way I expected it to.
Speaker 2: I mean, anybody getting knocked out, I mean, that just
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna happen. And if somebody was going to get
Speaker 2: knocked out, it looked like it would have been Tyson
Speaker 2: because he just you know, I mean, I'll be honest
Speaker 2: with you, as soon as he walked out, by the way,
Speaker 2: how about his bare ash showing for everybody to see
Speaker 2: that was that was something. But as soon as he
Speaker 2: walked out, I mean I knew ahead of time. He's old,
Speaker 2: a lot older than Jake Paul, but like he looked
Speaker 2: like an old man that doesn't need to be. Like
Speaker 2: we're talking about Mike Tyson here, a guy who at
Speaker 2: one point I think was the most dangerous, scary human
Speaker 2: being on the planet, the baddest man out there. For
Speaker 2: a long stretch of his life. But he also, like
Speaker 2: if I didn't know anything about him and I, you know,
Speaker 2: just saw him walking to the boxing ring as a stranger,
Speaker 2: and then I looked at who he was fighting, knowing
Speaker 2: the age difference, I would have been worried, like, man,
Speaker 2: I hope this guy doesn't get killed. But to see
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson and kind of, you know, for a moment
Speaker 2: have that feeling like that, that was sad, But hey,
Speaker 2: it's also kind of awesome to see him be able
Speaker 2: to get a payday like that, given the fact that
Speaker 2: you know a lot of the money he made at
Speaker 2: the peak of his career. You know, clearly he ran
Speaker 2: through it in a way you wouldn't believe, which is
Speaker 2: why he's filed bankruptcy, and which is why he can't
Speaker 2: turn down this fight for twenty million dollars because it's
Speaker 2: it'd be almost foolish for him to not take it
Speaker 2: and leave it for his family, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: So I feel like they feel like they won, both
Speaker 2: of them won, if you know what I mean, because
Speaker 2: they were able to get that many eyeballs on it,
Speaker 2: and you know, everybody made a lot of money. Now
Speaker 2: Netflix didn't win here because they had issues. Now, I
Speaker 2: watched it out somewhere, and obviously if you're watching we
Speaker 2: talked about it on Friday. If you're getting it at
Speaker 2: a bar and you're not just getting it at your house,
Speaker 2: there's a you have to go about it a different
Speaker 2: way as far as how you obtain the ability to show,
Speaker 2: because what you're doing is you're taking a product and
Speaker 2: you're trying to monetize off off of something you don't own.
Speaker 2: Right the rights to that fight are owned by Netflix.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you had to go through Netflix.
Speaker 2: I don't know how that process works. But my point
Speaker 2: is the people who just try to watch it home,
Speaker 2: like apparently it didn't work. I mean again, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't experience that, and honestly, if it wasn't working
Speaker 2: for me, I would have just moved on and watched
Speaker 2: something else, probably because you know, I was I wanted
Speaker 2: to do to see what would happen, But it wasn't
Speaker 2: like I was just you know, I wasn't as excited.
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't realize it was even happening until
Speaker 2: two days before what happened, because it had gotten postponed
Speaker 2: earlier the summer. But the NFL has a Netflix only
Speaker 2: game on Christmas, and of course Monday Night Raw will
Speaker 2: become exclusively a thing that's only watched on Netflix starting
Speaker 2: I believe in twenty twenty five this year. So you know,
Speaker 2: they've not had many live events. I would imagine sixty
Speaker 2: men million people watching their live event has got to
Speaker 2: break their own record. So they'll get it, they'll get
Speaker 2: it figured out, like I understand the like there's there's
Speaker 2: also a scenario that like one of the big reasons
Speaker 2: for this, or one of the big you know, opportunities
Speaker 2: for them with this, because again they they didn't charge
Speaker 2: anybody any extra money. Right, if you already had Netflix,
Speaker 2: you didn't have to pay to watch this like this
Speaker 2: honestly was a really valuable thing for them to see
Speaker 2: where they stood as far as are they do they
Speaker 2: have the resources, the bandwidth essentially to be able to
Speaker 2: stream something where this many people are going to watch,
Speaker 2: and clearly they didn't have it, so now they know.
Speaker 2: And you know what if you if you already were
Speaker 2: a subscriber to Netflix and you didn't it didn't work
Speaker 2: for you, you're not out anything. You're already paying for it.
Speaker 2: So I look, if they do have issues with a
Speaker 2: Christmas Day NFL game. That's gonna be a nightmare, And honestly,
Speaker 2: it'll be a nightmare with money night Raw as well.
Speaker 2: That's probably watched by more people than you realize, but
Speaker 2: they'll figure it out. It's Netflix, I mean, come on, Like,
Speaker 2: I would say that, if there's any streaming service out
Speaker 2: there that may have the ability to make this work
Speaker 2: would probably be them. If I'm being you know, straight
Speaker 2: up with you, all right, something that I wanted to
Speaker 2: mention really quickly here before we get to our break.
Speaker 2: This is not something you see very often. So there's
Speaker 2: been another firing in college football where Leah tom Herman
Speaker 2: has been fired at FAU. But and he hasn't been
Speaker 2: good there by the way, but Tom Herman last week
Speaker 2: fired his defensive coordinator Rocko bell Andoni. Well, a week later,
Speaker 2: FAU has decided to fire tom Herman and Bell and
Speaker 2: Toni is now back as the DC and the interim
Speaker 2: head coach to finish the season. I would imagine this
Speaker 2: is the first time we've seen a scenario like that
Speaker 2: in college football. But yeah, Tom Herman a guy who
Speaker 2: really you remember when he was at Houston and they
Speaker 2: were good like he beat Louisville twice. Is it safe
Speaker 2: to say I could be wrong here? I know they
Speaker 2: also Houston also beat Oklahoma when Baker was there, so
Speaker 2: that was probably their big win. But they beat Lamar
Speaker 2: at the time, where the only lost Louisville had in
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen was to Clemson earlier that year, and then
Speaker 2: they beat Louisville the year before that when Lamar was
Speaker 2: I guess a freshman, and you know he took an
Speaker 2: assistant He was an assistant for Urban Meyer at Ohio
Speaker 2: State and then went to Houston and did a great job.
Speaker 2: But I feel like his at least two of his
Speaker 2: top four wins probably at Houston were against Louisville that
Speaker 2: really got attention. And then he turned that into the
Speaker 2: Texas job and that didn't work out, and then now
Speaker 2: he's already out at FAU. So I would have expected,
Speaker 2: honestly Tom Herman to be really successful anywhere he went,
Speaker 2: but didn't work out that way really at all. All right,
Speaker 2: quick break, We'll come back on the other side. Believe
Speaker 2: it or not. I'm going to play some Deon Sanders
Speaker 2: sound not to you know, talk about how arrogant he is,
Speaker 2: or talk about how he's ridiculous and he acts as
Speaker 2: if his team is great and he hasn't done anything,
Speaker 2: because that's what I was doing before the season started.
Speaker 2: But now I got to be honest, like Deon Sanders
Speaker 2: team is winning. They got a good chance to win
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve, or at least you know they're going
Speaker 2: to be in position to have a shot. And he
Speaker 2: said something about recruiting rankings that I feel like is
Speaker 2: worth sharing with you guys, because Louisville right now again,
Speaker 2: they're dead last in the ACC when it comes to
Speaker 2: recruiting high school freshmen for the upcoming year, which is
Speaker 2: not I mean transfer portal aside, that's not really where
Speaker 2: you want to be. But I just think the quicker
Speaker 2: you realize that, like freshman recruiting is important, but rankings
Speaker 2: are not that valuable like they once were. Like I
Speaker 2: think the you know, the better you'll be able to
Speaker 2: deal with it as a fan. But you know, I've
Speaker 2: learned over the years that there are certain people that
Speaker 2: are so wrapped up in recruiting, like they're always going
Speaker 2: to worry about it because it's that important to them.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying recruiting is not important, but like
Speaker 2: it's a different world now with the portal and within
Speaker 2: il and guys staying in school longer because they can
Speaker 2: make money. I quick break will come back on the
Speaker 2: other side one more segment. We're out here a little
Speaker 2: early today, so stick with us. We'll finish strong. It's
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Speaker 2: I was expecting today should to mostly be about football,
Speaker 2: and it has been, but Louisville basketball, back in action
Speaker 2: tomorrow has taken on Coach Davenport and the Bellarman Knights.
Speaker 2: Bellerman looking for their first win of the season against
Speaker 2: Division one opponents and tough start for for the Knights
Speaker 2: and Louisville in major need of a bounce back win.
Speaker 2: But I'm not even really sure like it feels that way.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, they losing development would be a disaster,
Speaker 2: and I don't think that's gonna happen at all. But
Speaker 2: that ten day break, man like, it was probably good
Speaker 2: for the team, like I would imagine. You know, well,
Speaker 2: first of all, I don't know how they couldn't have
Speaker 2: been humbled with the overall result and how things played
Speaker 2: out for them against Tennessee, and really they'd never been
Speaker 2: in anywhere close to that kind of a situation. I mean,
Speaker 2: it had been nothing, but but you know, high fives,
Speaker 2: handshakes and smiles and you know, the honeymoon. So I'm
Speaker 2: hopeful that when they do take take on Indiana next
Speaker 2: week in the Battle for Atlantis, that at that point
Speaker 2: they will have, you know, made some improvements, made some
Speaker 2: adjustments to what to do in those kind of situations.
Speaker 2: Whenever a really good team like Tennessee can take you
Speaker 2: out of what you want to do. But these two
Speaker 2: games between there, I mean, I don't know if you're
Speaker 2: going to really see any signs of that. And I
Speaker 2: hate saying this because you know, I'm excited to watch
Speaker 2: them play tomorrow, because you know, I'm a little basketball
Speaker 2: fan like all of you, or like most of you,
Speaker 2: But you know, I know that whatever happens as far
Speaker 2: as the result, it's probably not going to give you
Speaker 2: any kind of indication of what you should expect when
Speaker 2: they start playing good teams again like they did Tennessee.
Speaker 2: It'll be next week when they play in the Battle
Speaker 2: for Atlantis, which of course will be three straight days
Speaker 2: of playing good teams and kind of seeing where you stand.
Speaker 2: So you know, I think doing what they want to do,
Speaker 2: meaning a lot of possessions, up tempo, rhythmic threes, free
Speaker 2: throws and threes, forcing turnovers, Like they're probably going to
Speaker 2: be able to do that and dictate style of play
Speaker 2: and pace against Bellerman and Winthrop like, but they weren't
Speaker 2: against Tennessee. So you know, I don't want to get
Speaker 2: too I don't want to nerd out too much on
Speaker 2: on basketball here, but like, I think the recipe, well,
Speaker 2: the ingredients that he has to work with many of
Speaker 2: the players, Like, yeah, they absolutely can can get into
Speaker 2: the system and style that Pat wants to do against
Speaker 2: a lot of teams. But when you play better teams,
Speaker 2: you know, do you stop being so in and out
Speaker 2: with the with the rotation and playing nine guys all
Speaker 2: about the same amount of amount of minutes or did
Speaker 2: you used the last ten days to try to figure
Speaker 2: out Okay, we're going to have to shrink the rotation
Speaker 2: a little bit and really trust this group whenever you're
Speaker 2: playing you know, better teams, you know, teams that are
Speaker 2: better than than you know, Winthrop in Bellerman, but back
Speaker 2: to to football. This text comes in five OO two
Speaker 2: six five three zero seven ninety. It's the Llen and
Speaker 2: Federal Credit Union text line if you guys would like
Speaker 2: to text in. But this text says, Nick, do you
Speaker 2: think if Isaac Brown is banged up, he just shuts
Speaker 2: it down for the rest of the year. I would
Speaker 2: hope not. But you know, let me say this, nothing
Speaker 2: would shock me when it comes to players just deciding
Speaker 2: to do those kind of things anymore, because that's that's
Speaker 2: where we are, you know. But I don't know what
Speaker 2: the benefit for Isaac would be to do that. Now,
Speaker 2: you don't want to get hurt, but you can get
Speaker 2: hurt any day. You canet hurt in practice, like you know,
Speaker 2: like if the decision if he doesn't play the rest
Speaker 2: of the season, which I have no clue. Jef Browm
Speaker 2: was asked about it earlier today and he said, you know,
Speaker 2: they're gonna see how he is throughout the week. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing, but essentially that's what he said. In fact,
Speaker 2: here is actually word for word what he said. He says,
Speaker 2: we'll see how he progresses this week. He had a
Speaker 2: little bit with his shoulder. We're hopeful he can play,
Speaker 2: but I don't know yet. I mean, that's that's exactly
Speaker 2: what he said, so we shall see. But if he
Speaker 2: doesn't play, I would assume that it is because he
Speaker 2: literally hurt and can't go. But like holding out or
Speaker 2: opting out because of the Stanford loss, that just doesn't
Speaker 2: make any sense because he's already played enough games s
Speaker 2: where he can't red shirt. And I hope more than
Speaker 2: anything that Isaac Brown is back with this team next year.
Speaker 2: I do because he's super special. I mean, that guy,
Speaker 2: And that's another part of why this year has been
Speaker 2: so frustrating, is that you have one of the best
Speaker 2: freshmen that has ever played for you, and he's also
Speaker 2: putting up these numbers as a true freshman when you
Speaker 2: have played probably one of your toughest schedules in school history. Again,
Speaker 2: before the Stanford game, Louisville schedule was ranked top fifteenth nationally,
Speaker 2: even higher than that, depending on where you looked. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, he's great, you know what, everybody else knows.
Speaker 2: He's great too. He was a freshman All American preseason,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure tampering's going on as we speak with
Speaker 2: a lot of players and probably including him if that's
Speaker 2: the case, because he's that good, so early is going
Speaker 2: to come down to what he wants to do, and
Speaker 2: obviously Louis is going to have to have a financial
Speaker 2: arrange that is that is, you know, good enough for him,
Speaker 2: and I hope that happens. But any speculation at this
Speaker 2: point is literally that just speculation. But uh, oh, it's
Speaker 2: not good. I had Microsoft Teams open on this studio
Speaker 2: computer and I didn't know people could call me. Looks
Speaker 2: like it spam. Apologies, that shouldn't be able to happen
Speaker 2: where I'm live on the air and there's there's something
Speaker 2: on this computer that I didn't install. It didn't install,
Speaker 2: that's taking a phone call like that's that's not good anyways. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I don't even know what I was saying. Oh with
Speaker 2: Isaac Brown, so back to the opt out thing, like
Speaker 2: he wouldn't like again here's where I was going. Sorry
Speaker 2: about that. I can get really I can get really
Speaker 2: distracted really quickly, but I usually bounce back what I
Speaker 2: laid out about, like hoping that they make it, because again,
Speaker 2: that's what's gonna come down to money, and you know,
Speaker 2: he's gonna have to hopefully he's having a good year
Speaker 2: and he likes it here. Hope he likes Louisvill. Hopefully
Speaker 2: he likes playing for playing for coach Brom. But let's
Speaker 2: just say, you know, it was the other way, the
Speaker 2: bad result where he was, in fact, you know, looking
Speaker 2: to leave, looking to go get paid a lot of
Speaker 2: money elsewhere, just looking to play, I don't know, somewhere
Speaker 2: else closer to home. I don't know what benefit would
Speaker 2: it have by him sitting out now. Again, if he's hurt,
Speaker 2: that's a different conversation. So I think if he's healthy,
Speaker 2: he'll play. But like if he's looking to leave and
Speaker 2: he is healthy enough to play, I mean, he'd be benefit.
Speaker 2: It would benefit him to keep putting up crazy numbers.
Speaker 2: Now he's done enough to where if he did sit out,
Speaker 2: people are aware of what he can do and what
Speaker 2: he brings to the table. But I just you know,
Speaker 2: when it comes to Colin Lacey doing that, Yeah, it happening.
Speaker 2: After your loss to Miami, I mean that was a
Speaker 2: factor because a lot of the goals for Louisville that
Speaker 2: were out there before the season started, you know, were
Speaker 2: damn near impossible after that loss. When you had your
Speaker 2: third loss of the season, and he hadn't played a
Speaker 2: whole lot to where he could, you know, like he
Speaker 2: got injured before the season started, so he missed the
Speaker 2: first few games to where it was really a unique
Speaker 2: situation with Colin. So I would hope if I mean
Speaker 2: kise of Brown's healthy, I would imagine he'll play. And
Speaker 2: as I mentioned, I hope, like hell, he's back here
Speaker 2: for next year and the year after that if possible,
Speaker 2: because he's really really good. So it's Duke Watson. Nobody
Speaker 2: comes back too. And that's I know. I've mentioned it
Speaker 2: many times over the last however many months this season
Speaker 2: has been going on, but man, the I mean to
Speaker 2: see certain guys that I feel like, man, that guy's
Speaker 2: pretty special. We don't get many guys at that position,
Speaker 2: this talented that often. And to know that you're sitting
Speaker 2: here six and four when you should be a lot better,
Speaker 2: it's it's frustrating. All Right, that'll do it for us.
Speaker 2: We're out of here. There's a basketball game coming up next,
Speaker 2: but we're back at it tomorrow and I hope you
Speaker 2: guys will join us. Thanks to everybody for hanging out big.
Speaker 2: Thanks to radio. Rick Ryder once again for holding us
Speaker 2: down and again heavy good eye, everybody