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Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to a off

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season happy hour clips and dips, something we've started doing

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because there's not a whole lot usually going on in

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the Clippers sphere in the off season, so we're coming

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at you with a live once every two weeks and

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a full episode all the weeks in between that. I

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am Chuck Mockler, joined by Adam Austin. William Updyke is

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at a wedding in Malibu, so he cannot make it

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our situation. I'm sure I mean a wedding in Malibu.

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I've been told it's a very and that seems like

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a totally normal wedding. Thank you for hanging out with us.

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If you're listening to this and you missed the live,

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you can always find us at YouTube dot com slash

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at Clippers podcast. You can clip, subscribe and then you'll

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be notified when we come and talk about stuff. Adam,

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how are you doing, buddy? Before we get into what's

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been going on? How are you? How are you?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Am? I you know, I'm actually doing pretty well.

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Been doing a lot of radio as.

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Speaker 1: Of late, killing it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I got a thing coming up at Marongo a week

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from tomorrow for AM five seventy where I'm going to

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do a Clippers talk from there for an hour. Oh yeah,

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twenty seventh at Marengo Casino in a resort. Come see

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me there. I think there's a little stage area or not.

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I'll just be walking around and have my head set

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on and do a little bit of Clippers talk and

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hopefully I don't have to talk about as much as

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what we've had to focus on the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Oh, and we're going to focus on it some of

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it in just a bit. That's awesome. Yeah, catch you

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out of at Marongo if you need a roadie or something,

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let me know.

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Speaker 2: I'm there.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to start off this episode by giving a

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shout out to a former Clipper who was just named

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Coach of the Year in the w NBA. Coach Natalie.

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That's right, shout out Coach Natalie. Real Clippers fans know

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that Natalie Nicassi was a fantastic coach with the Clippers.

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All the players loved her, and now she's killing it

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in the w n B A So shout out to

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coach Natalie.

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Speaker 2: We're not surprised. We saw this from humble beginnings, not

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at all. We knew her win.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you leave the Clippers and great things happen. No,

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just kidding, but yeah the chat, Yeah exactly. Hope the

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success continues and there was no other news about the

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Clippers this week. Everything else was normal, no for those

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of for those of you who missed it, it's been

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another hell of a week for Clippers fans. The vibe,

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the bad, the bad outside vibes momentum kind of continues

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fester and should be for a while because we were

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told that the NBA does not expect to have a

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resolution on the Kawhi Leonard salary caps are convention investigation

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until after the All Star Game. But this was also expected, right, Adam.

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We talked about this last week when all three of

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us were here like billible hours were hosting the All

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Star Game. They want to get this right.

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Speaker 2: This wasn't that surprising, right, Yeah, We're gonna stretch this

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process out. No, and they need to be through about

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this because well, if Pablo found three thousand pages, the

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NBA might found find twenty thousand pages. I don't know

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how this is gonna work. I think Mark Cuban is

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currently tweeting out his own investigation that he's got going on.

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Speaker 1: Pull that up and Mark. So the other issue, there

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was an interesting part with fourteen minutes ago. All right,

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we're gonna put the tweet up in a sec. The

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other there was another publetory episode. There was a very

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boring ESPN article about Kawhi which we're going to talk about,

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which Adam, you and I can agree, not a lot

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of new information in that. It's felt like kind of

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kicking the Clippers when it's convenient when they're down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's a recap for all the casuals and non

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this stuff. And there wasn't anything revelatory there, right, it

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Speaker 1: It was Yeah, I was just like, we get it, man,

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like journalists has ever really been around the Clippers? Also

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is the other part of it? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like that felt like ESPN needs a story out. Let's uh,

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this Clippers thing's hot right now, So why don't we

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talk more about this and just everything over the last

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Speaker 1: Totally So Mark Cuban is currently tweeting about the situation.

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There was an in the last episode of the Poblatory

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finds out podcast Cuban. They take this point where Cuban asked,

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why didn't the Clippers just buy carbon credits from Aspiration

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to pay Kawhi. He noted that if the Clippers purchased

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those credits up front, it would be a big red flag,

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as carbon credits are very messy, and then Pabulatory just

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showed that that was exactly what happened. The Clippers spent

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sixty million in carbon credits for into It Dome in

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twenty twenty two, over three payments. Into a Dome wasn't

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completed yet, so there's no need to rush. So anyway,

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the more that Mark Cuban talks, I'm conflicted to be

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because I don't know. Justin Russo had a great article

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about this on his substack. I'll share it in the chat,

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but he started off by saying basically, like I don't

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know anything about this subject matter, Like I don't know.

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I have a college degree, albeit from the Harvard of

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the West the University of Montana, but like.

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Speaker 2: That's the appropriate way to start things. Hey, guys, I'm

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a dumb ass. Do not listening.

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Speaker 1: I don't know in terms of like, I just mean

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in terms of like people listening to the show who

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are maybe looking for some kind of like gotcha or

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we know what is happening, and maybe you know a

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lot more about contract love than me. I don't mean

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to lump you in with this, but like it seems

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like the more that Mark Cuban talks, the public opinion

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of everything goes south, which is kind of for the fans,

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I think the more lasting issue of this whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hadn't reviewed whatever documentation that Mark Cuban put

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out there today to support his angle. I will say

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it feels like it's gotten personal, not between Pablo and

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the Clippers, but between Pablo and Mark.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a there's a once you get to

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a certain level of wealth, there's an ego that comes

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with it, just as any certain level of like you know,

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athletic ability or something like that. So I think if

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you're billionaire Mark Cuban, I think you're right, Adam. I

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think that's a great thing to point out.

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Speaker 2: It's like the Clippers are getting caught in the crossfire

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here between these two guys in some ways, and this

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is what's continuing to fuel the story. Neither one of

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them wanting to end up looking wrong. I don't know. Again,

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I didn't. It seems like a lot. I haven't gone

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through it. I don't know if anybody has any cliffs

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notes on that. That seems dangerous because you watch the

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other episodes and it's like, this is so long and

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this is so much information to take in.

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Speaker 1: It can't be cliff noted, like you can cliff note

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the episode, which a user on Reddit did, thank you

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for cliff noting the Pablo episode, but like, it's so difficult.

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Speaker 2: The one thing I will say that I think is

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fair to point out it a week to week and

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a half ago, everything was about, well, well, hey, I mean,

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what are you going to say? Balmer put in fifty kauwha,

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I got forty eight. Obviously it seems like something's going

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on there. Well, the money that the Clippers are put

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in has completely changed that argument in that theory. Now

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it's one hundred and eighteen million, So that overly simplistic

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argument that seemed to be there before no longer stands.

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really felt like that was the crux of the argument,

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right this finite Yeah, they're similar, Oh must be suspicious.

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to Mark Cuban said if they were going to do it,

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it was carbon credits, and Pablo's saying, well, it was

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carbon credits. But if you're doing that, it is moving

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of the goalpost to some degree from the argument you

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were making before, in the theory you had before. From

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what I can glean from my understanding of it.

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Speaker 1: I like this comment from Johnny sixty six. Mark and

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Pablo should settle the beef on a one v one

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at the blacktop outside into it domb I hope. So

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that would be great. So the goalposts, people are saying

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the goalposts are moving, Adam, you brought that up. I

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think that is a good point. The goalposts also seem

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I think part of it to be moving because that's

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Pablo Tory has done. You know, he's waiting, he's not

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releasing everything at once, so the goalposts are easier to

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move in that sense. I don't mean this in a

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bad way, right, like the Adam Silver thing, when Adam

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Silver is like, I've never heard of aspiration, and then

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Pablotory goes, well, here's the clip of you, you know, like,

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how did you not hear about three hundred million dollar thing,

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and then Silver goes on whatever show or conference that

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was was like I actually have heard about aspiration. So yeah,

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the controlling of it information is weird in this scenario

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because I agree with what you're saying where things keep moving,

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but I'm also wondering if things are moving because there's

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seemingly only two people with all of the documents and

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Mark Cuban in publatory and who are putting stuff out.

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Speaker 2: I should say I get where Pablo is coming from.

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months because yeah, yeah, because Mark Cuban's first comment was basically, well,

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someone that rich cannot make mistakes like this, and now

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he's kind of backed himself into a corner where it

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seems like he has to keep defending his point, and

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now he's getting more detailed with it and going into

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his own investigation mode.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's also like, dude, the optics of Mark

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Cuban posting five thousand character length tweets are.

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Speaker 2: Bad, especially when you don't want to go back on

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his podcast. It looks like because it's a waste of.

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Speaker 1: Time because you know that Pablo Tory would be like,

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come on the pod man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's game for it, obviously. And I'm not saying

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Mark Cuban is a coward here or anything like that.

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It just it would be really really nice for Clippers

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fans to have them release everything, get it out in

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the open, and now we can wait for the dust

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to settle with the NBA's investigation and we can talk

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about something else. But as they continue to dig in

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here against with their positions digging in, but then also

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this wedge that has been driven between one another by

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being on polar opposite sides here, and it seems kind

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of like a pissing match. I don't know if we're

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going to get a chance or reprieve anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: I like what you said about just all the information

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coming out at once, because that that would make right.

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Now the public has decided the Clippers are guilty, it

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doesn't really matter what the NBA investigation says, and if

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they did something wrong, they should obviously be punished for it.

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Everyone on this involved with this podcasts agreed with that.

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But in the eyes of public opinion, which I think

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for fans is the more important and meaningful battle is

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kind of already made up, which bums me out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this would happen with any team. I don't

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think it'shound the Clippers. Opposing fans always come from a

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place of bias, because that's what it is to be

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a fan. Everybody else is cheating but us. Everybody else

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is doing wrong but us. And you know in some

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ways that spirit at its core is a big part

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of fandom totally. But in this case, it would sure

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be nice if people would not shoot first and ask

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questions later, which is what they're doing currently. Yeah, and

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questions later. I think this is just about simply any

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red meat that's out there for a fan base to

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pick at. They will always do. The Lakers will never

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not hear about twenty twenty being in the bubble. Sure,

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this is what comes with the territory when it's about

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opposing fan bases getting some red meat to criticize you with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel bad for in this current just media

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news cycle everything for Clippers man, because it does suck,

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because it's just like we Alex Web posted it in

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this chat, which if you'd like to post things in

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the chat, subscribe to us at YouTube. I'm just ready

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for balltalk. I'm exhausted about talking about trees, agreed, Alex,

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a fair thing.

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Speaker 2: How is nothing new gonna come out with the way

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Mark right now?

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Speaker 3: What is?

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Speaker 2: I know?

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: It's any time a fan base has a chance to

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discredit something of your of you from your team, they

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will do it. Joke's over facts, all these things, and

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it really is frustrating that it's happening to the Clippers

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right now, especially because there's no basketball going on, and

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this is the biggest story, not just in the NBA.

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This is leading headlines throughout sports for all the wrong

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reasons when you're a Clippers fan.

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Speaker 1: I remember we were on here the first Live when

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this broke. We were like, thank god the NFL is

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starting this week, because surely that will overtake the news. Nope,

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that happen.

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Speaker 2: All these damn backup quarterbacks right.

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Speaker 1: That?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what about that pick? What's wrong with him? Shock?

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Speaker 1: I know what's wrong with him. We all know what's

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wrong with him. He's been hitting the head fifty times.

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He doesn't want to throw the ball down the field. Sorry.

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The patreon is for Dolphins, Panthers movies, and diptalk. We'll

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keep it over there. So this is a question from

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starman Hove. Do we know?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 1: This is an interesting This brings up an interesting point.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Starman Hove, who comments a lot thank you for engaging,

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says do we know what the punishment could be for

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this kind of thing? I honestly don't understand what is

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going on? Second part, totally fair. First part, it feels

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like the public sentiment of what the punishment was going

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to be two weeks ago was like Adam Silver, we

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know what he does. He's a very Goodell Roger Goodell

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type owner, where it's let's protect the owners, not a

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crazy you know, not a guy to punish you like crazy,

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not the velvet hammer. That was kind of the vibe

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a couple of weeks ago. And now it seems like

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the public sentiment and all of these reports from guys

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executives I've talked to dot dot dot. Now it seems

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like people are getting more pissed off and there might

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be a stronger punishment than we initially thought. But that's

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not to say it will be an incredibly punishing punishment.

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Speaker 2: You know, yes, I have no idea. We know what's

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on the table. It could be picks. It could be

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a fine voiding of contract owner being suspended for a

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year based upon precedent, the last there being very unrealistic,

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of course, which what does.

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Speaker 1: And I understand this might be a stupid question. An

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owner being suspended for a year to me, I guess

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in the lens of having our owner already someone who

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spends a bunch of money, so we're kind of set up,

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you know what I mean, Like we're not paying year

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by year for like facilities or something like that. Balmer

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being suspended for a year does not seem like that

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big of a deal in terms of on the court performance.

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Speaker 2: I think it's more of a punishment that's yeah, isolated

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to the owner of having to be away.

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Speaker 1: Which for Balmer that'd be a pretty big punishment.

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Speaker 2: Balmer is a super fan for this team, obviously, yeah,

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this would be different than Glenn Taylor, and this is

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again this is good.

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Speaker 1: Does Silver have the power to levy more because it's

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like it's like four and a half million dollars like

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a first round picker. Like there are things in the CBA,

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but they're very light.

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Speaker 2: He has, as he said, broad power, but those are

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kind of the framework. It's fines, it's picks, it's suspensions,

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it's voiding of contracts. Suspensions and avoiding of contracts. Seems

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like they would really have to find a smoking gun

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like they did with Minnesota, which they only got because

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they put it in writing. In case Glenn Taylor, uh

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past right, so he wasn't a young, vibrant man, although

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he's still alive. That'sh relations in it. I think the

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avoiding of a that stuff happening.

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Speaker 1: I don't see them unless there's some discovery in this

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investigation that is a huge They're not voiding Kauwai's contract

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because that starts a huge thing with the players union.

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I think I could see them because again, if this

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is happening after the All Star Game, I could see

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them suspending Balmer for the season, which is more of

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a punishment again to Balmer.

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Speaker 2: And they suspended after the All Star Game for the

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raider of the season. That's something that crossed my mind.

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I was like, oh my god, that would feel for

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the top three seed in the West. And this is

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I don't want to doom. I don't want to speculate, no.

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Speaker 1: I feel, but it is it's hard to not right.

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So I think the other part of that kind of

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this discussion is like, as partly fans, it's hard to

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not think the worst when most of the sportsphere other

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than Mark Cuban and some Clipper and Clippers fans that

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we know are have just already decided that like we're

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going to be. You know, I'm worried that because with

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the new apron stuff, I wonder how the new apron

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can factor into punishments. Maybe you make the Clippers operate

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as a second apron team for a year despite being

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under the first apron, you know what I'm saying Like that,

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that to me is a way bigger punishment than spending

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the owner for a year.

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Speaker 2: I heard someone theorize that, oh, they'll eliminate the Clippers

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twenty eight million dollars on the CAF less to spend

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because that equals the money that Kawhi was getting. This

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was early on. Yeah, that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Seems that seems too soon.

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Speaker 2: Unrealistic, right, Like, Yeah, I just I don't want to

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get into the punishment. Look, honestly, with the stuff that

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has come out recently, I think it's perfectly reasonable to

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be in the Clippers camp of believing that these are

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two independent things going on. Yeah, that's Steve Baumer invested

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in a company. That company independently had to deal with

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Kawhi Leonard. I do think that needs to stay on

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the table in front of mind, which for everyone involved

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in this, that no one should be jumping to any

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conclusions just as much as yes, the other side of it,

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the Clippers could have done something wrong. Can we walk

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and showgum at the same time a little bit here?

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Do we not? Just let's wait for the facts to

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come out. Let's wait for the invested investigation. These are

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the two major scenarios that we're looking at right now.

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But they both seem you know, I don't want to

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say equal, but they both seem like they could be

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a part of this reality of the scandal of what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because we talked last week about in the Zach

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Low article he talked about I think it was his podcast,

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you know, the Lppers kind of doing what you said,

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which was this was this is two separate things. This

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is supposedly Balmber getting scammed in a way where it's like, well,

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I guess I thought it seems easier to scam the

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one of the richest guys in the NBA that I

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thought it was, and like you said, Kawhi and Uncle

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Dennis doing a separate thing. So I do think with

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the amount of discovery and the timeline we've been given,

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they should they being the firm that's going to investigate

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this in the NBA, should be able to differentiate between

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those two things.

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Speaker 2: I just don't want to approach this from the point

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of view like we kind of have been the last

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five minutes of what's the worst that can happen to

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the Clippers? What about the other side of it, what's

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the best that can happen They totally get cleared of

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this that is on the table.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like what Alex Webb is bringing up a

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thing the Clippers could appeal that. That's an interesting move too,

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because I don't know if Balmer would appeal because he's

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been so obviously he wants an investigation. He's obviously going

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to say he wants an investigation. You can't go on

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ESPN and say I, actually, maybe they don't investigate us.

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It would be funny. Yeah, it would not help our

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case at all. I don't know if they appeal, because

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appealing is like you just open it up again for

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whatever and down the road. Yeah, you're just and it's like,

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let's just have this happen for whatever.

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Speaker 2: I also wonder how that works because when the CBA

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those bylaws come down, they're agreed upon by both parties.

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This is the punishment. I assume you can appeal, because

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you can with anything.

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Speaker 1: Right, But yeah, in my head, I'm like, I didn't

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even think about that.

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Speaker 2: But it's not a court of law. It's different. They've

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already agreed to these things ahead of time. I don't know.

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I really don't like going down this road so much.

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Let's see what comes out of it. Let's hope for

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the best, yes, without expecting the worst. Let's just for

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the best.

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Speaker 1: Let's just hope for the best. Ummm, someone, We're gonna

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do a quick audio break because we are gonna put

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this out on audio. At break at what time is

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it twenty four minutes? Coming up, we're gonna talk there's

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a new Clipper Vision Higher, which I wish we could

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have led this episode off of, but we have to

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talk about this aspiration stuff coming up. We're gonna talk

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the Clipper Vision Higher and then a little bit about

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that ESPN article coming up in three two one.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in. It's Clips and Dip with Clips and

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Dip live for you guys, and maybe you're listening to

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in podcast form now I'm out of Mosland. He is

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Chuck Makler. No will Updyke today, but he returns soon enough.

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Speaker 1: He's in.

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Speaker 2: Malibu with Miley. Does she have a song about Malibu?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Sure. You're the resident Miley fan on

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the pod, so we'll take your work for it.

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Speaker 2: I know I'm a wrecking ball. Uh. You want to

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talk about a Clippers recent hire here that became official.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Stan Vrett new gig is the Clippers studio host,

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which is pretty cool. The Clippers broadcast team is very

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on point. I would say for a local broadcast team,

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the talent I agree, from the radio pre and post

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game to the radio play by play, we got it.

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Speaker 2: All Carlo was doing Big ten last week. He was

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on the call the UCLA getting stomped out by New

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Mexico game, and then thirty six hours later Deshan Foster

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being fired. It is a mess over there.

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Speaker 1: How can I don't like my mom? My mom's family

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from Oklahoma, so we were kind of Oklahoma fans. I

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went to the University of Montana, so it's different. How

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can UCLA be so bad at recruiting? Because that seems

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to be the issue, right, And we'll talk about this

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for like thirty seconds and then stop. But I don't

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get it. Should they hire Troy Aikman he went to UCLA,

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bring him back?

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Speaker 2: He at least agreed with Petroschapadakas recently that one of

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the issues is the lack of fervor around the program

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in general, even when they're decent. Is because you arena

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is off campus.

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Speaker 1: And I would say off campus is generous to describe

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where the UCLA football stadium.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a beautiful stadium. Obviously they host championship games there.

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It's just when you have an on campus stadium, it

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leaves less excuses for people not to go, and especially

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when you're bad. They went out and paid two million

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in nil for Nico from Tennessee and I can't pronounce

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his last name until they get a in. They had

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a little bit of momentum heading into the season, and

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to start one to three when they haven't even started

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the Big Ten schedule yet, so it just means things

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could get worse from here is It is baffling. It

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is dumbfounding just how bad they've been.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy too because at UM which FCS powerhouse, no

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big deal, the stadium my college apartment. We would walk

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to the stadium anyway. Shout out to the UCLA football fan.

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So you're doing okay. There was another clipper Vision update

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that had me kind of worried, which was as a

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valued subscriber of Clippervision, all of us got this email

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that said they're informing us that they are transitioning the

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Clipper Vision offering. As a result, this will serve as

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cancelation notice of your current subscription no longer be available

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as of October eighteenth, Justin Russo is texting me. He

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wanted me to let you know that this is UCLA

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football's worst start since World War Two.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, especially because damn not just the O and

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00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,799
three record the competition, the lack thereof that took them

475
00:28:16,839 --> 00:28:20,359
out just they should be two and one at worst.

476
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,039
Speaker 1: Justin Russo said he would be on the pop, but

477
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,400
he's currently eating, so shout out Justin. I shared his

478
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,359
substack in the in the thing earlier. Anyway, I'm worried

479
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,920
about what's going to happen with Clipper Vision because well,

480
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,880
I don't care. I know what's gonna happen with UCLA.

481
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:45,200
They're going to continue to trend, tearn down. I'm I

482
00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:50,519
work in marketing, uh and seeing the phrase we are

483
00:28:50,599 --> 00:28:57,559
transitioning the Clipper Vision offering does not strike me with

484
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:06,720
a feeling of enthusiasm for what the new offering might be.

485
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,720
It was such a simple thing. Here are the here

486
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,640
are the Clippers games, except for a handful obviously because

487
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,799
of blackout laws and whatnot. But with the way that

488
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:25,000
sports viewing has been going, I don't hold a lot

489
00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:27,319
of confidence that this is a good update.

490
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm not familiar with the situation.

491
00:29:32,599 --> 00:29:36,079
Speaker 1: I'm a radio list that's fair. Radio is as live

492
00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:37,440
as you can possibly get.

493
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:41,119
Speaker 2: I hope it's as user friendly for Cliffer Nation as possible.

494
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,039
Speaker 1: I hope it's I mean, I hope it's user friendly.

495
00:29:44,079 --> 00:29:46,160
I hope it works better, and I hope they're not

496
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,240
raising the price to something absurd, and I hope there's

497
00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:54,279
not any tears that have to you know what I mean,

498
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,240
like buy this package and you get whatever. Maybe I'm

499
00:29:58,279 --> 00:30:02,759
being cynical, but while watching sports gets harder every single year,

500
00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:05,640
unless you're a Phoenix Suns fan. Shout out to the

501
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,240
Suns who are celebrating. I think a huge extension of

502
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,160
just showing their games for free to everybody.

503
00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:18,799
Speaker 2: And unless you just like consuming highlights, then you're good.

504
00:30:19,559 --> 00:30:22,960
That's all you need. Check out Twitter, check out X.

505
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,279
Speaker 1: Yep, push more people over to X.

506
00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: Walked back, ily, that was everyone overreacting to That struck

507
00:30:32,079 --> 00:30:37,559
me as I'm not a highlight guy. I watched the

508
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,759
full games. I'm a basketball expert. It's a lot. That's

509
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:44,839
what it felt like to me. Yes, people patting themselves

510
00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:46,880
on the back and letting everyone know I don't just

511
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:47,880
watch the highlights.

512
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,839
Speaker 1: But it was a bad SoundBite.

513
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: It was, and that's why you had to walk it back.

514
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I also just appreciate.

515
00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's done a lot of clarifying recently.

516
00:31:01,079 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of clarifying. I'm gonna check in if Mark

517
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,920
youban it's continuing to clarify. Oh yeah, he is all.

518
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:17,319
Speaker 2: In, man, this is the story simmer right.

519
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: I said Mark Chill on our Clippers on the clippers

520
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,200
pod account, and people were like, let him cook. He's

521
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,640
helping us out, and I was like, I think legally

522
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,119
he might be helping us out. But again, I cannot stress.

523
00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:32,319
What makes me the most disappointed of this whole thing

524
00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:38,680
is that doesn't matter the legal punishments. And I say legal,

525
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,319
I mean NBA legal punishments. Whatever ramifications happen to the

526
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:45,319
Clippers management or how they operate the roster or all

527
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,720
that pales into comparison, I think for what fans now

528
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:54,640
have to deal with from kind of here on out,

529
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:58,599
and that that's what disappoints me the most. I'm not

530
00:31:58,599 --> 00:32:00,920
saying the Clippers did anything wrong. There's a whole lot

531
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,720
of smoking guns. We talked about wanting more sleeping guns

532
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:07,799
on last week's episode, but it doesn't seem like we're

533
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:12,680
getting those. It just the damage from a fan perspective

534
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,960
has been done. And my hat is off to any

535
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,960
Clippers fans, as it always is, but like right now,

536
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,440
weird hand to be dealt. When we had a racist owner,

537
00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:26,160
everyone agreed he sucked ass and shouldn't own the team anymore.

538
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,559
Speaker 2: And the actually Mark Cuban didn't interesting here we go.

539
00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:33,799
Speaker 1: I forgot about that.

540
00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: He said something to degree could be a slippery slope,

541
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,039
and invasion of privacy maybe was involved. I don't know.

542
00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:45,119
I'm just being technical or puredantic here now.

543
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,759
Speaker 1: You know what I'm yes the public again, Mark Cuban

544
00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:52,559
interjecting on Clippers business, get out of here.

545
00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:57,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's good or bad. He's defending

546
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:02,039
fanning the flames of the story. It's I don't know, man,

547
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:03,440
so convoluted.

548
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: We do have thick skin, thank you data man. If

549
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,599
you're a Clipper fanning to have thick skin, especially living

550
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,359
in La, that is true.

551
00:33:10,359 --> 00:33:13,319
Speaker 2: The La Armadilla's yeah, might as well.

552
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

553
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,279
Speaker 1: We continue to soldier.

554
00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:23,839
Speaker 2: On if any, if any fan base has been through

555
00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:29,880
you know, the ringer, so to speak, is that who

556
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:35,480
probably works for now the athletic But you know it

557
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,839
has been through. It base has been through enough. And

558
00:33:40,359 --> 00:33:42,240
this is what I always say. You know, Clippers fans

559
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,799
are the best fans because they're still here. After everything

560
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,880
they have been through, we're still here and we'll get

561
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:51,519
through this too.

562
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I actually think that might be a great

563
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,759
way to end the live if I'm being honest.

564
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: I did have to go to the bathroom really bad,

565
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,880
which is why I said that. I was hoping you'd

566
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,119
be like, there, let's put a ball on it.

567
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: He absolutely nailed it. Let's put a bow on it.

568
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,320
Adam has to go to the bathroom. So we're going

569
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,119
to get out of here.

570
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 2: No, but I do that's a good thing about these

571
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,440
wireless headphones. Check. I'm just gonna walk over. You can

572
00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:17,039
take a gun.

573
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,599
Speaker 1: Should we send justin Russo? The link?

574
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:25,119
Speaker 2: Does he want to end it? Is he finished his movie?

575
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

576
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: Sent him in?

577
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: All right.

578
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: I'm interested to know.

579
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: Was yeah, what were you eating? I guess.

580
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

581
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: I know, like Media Day, there's been some scuttle boat

582
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:49,039
that Pablo Tory is going to be at Media Day,

583
00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:51,800
which is in like eleven days.

584
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:55,679
Speaker 2: I would guess he'd be smart enough to know that

585
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,440
they're going to say it's an NBA matter that's being investigated,

586
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:02,480
and they're not going to expand on anything anyways. So

587
00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:04,159
I don't I don't know what you're gonna get out

588
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:04,320
of that.

589
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,679
Speaker 1: I hope it's complete chaos. I hope he freaks out.

590
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,159
I hope Balmer has to be held back. I hope

591
00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:13,440
it is a brew Haha. It won't be.

592
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: Clippers will handle this with class.

593
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 1: They will yeah, media Day. So I will not be

594
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,480
at Media Day because they always have it from like

595
00:35:25,679 --> 00:35:29,199
nine to two on a Wednesday. I have to work,

596
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,480
but Adam, you will be there.

597
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,039
Speaker 2: I will be there at least the start of it.

598
00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:40,960
And yeah, I will be there. And I'm not expecting fireworks.

599
00:35:41,559 --> 00:35:45,119
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting fireworks. I am expecting someone to ask

600
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:48,280
Tyleru about it, and Tyleru to have a very funny answer,

601
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:52,960
you know what I mean, Because Tyleru, he is as

602
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:58,360
far as someone within the organization could be. Tyleru. His

603
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,800
responsibilities are as far removed from this as possible, you

604
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,760
know what I mean. Someone is going to ask tyler

605
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,760
about this, which is a bad idea, and he's just

606
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,599
gonna say we're just focusing on the season I'm the

607
00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:12,280
head coach, or he's gonna say I didn't see it,

608
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,159
which is a classic titlism.

609
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,079
Speaker 2: I have one thing I want to ask why about

610
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:22,960
that has nothing to do with this subject matter. But

611
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,000
if there's too many people, I let the professionals and

612
00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:29,320
the journalist, what are you going to ask? What do

613
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,199
you want to ask a lot of tease?

614
00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:35,159
Speaker 1: Okay, I guess we'll find out in eleven days. When

615
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:35,559
is it?

616
00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: Uh? Because if I say, you know, Justin's going to

617
00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:41,000
steal it or tell me.

618
00:36:44,679 --> 00:36:46,679
Speaker 1: You're right. A lot of the stuff we talk about

619
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,360
to do their job, A lot of the stuff we

620
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,519
talk about ends up in their articles. I don't know.

621
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:58,960
We love all the people. We're talking shit. Man, I

622
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,920
wish Bokey wasn't hurt. I keep remembering that too, and

623
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,760
I was like, God, damn it. Like we need Bogey.

624
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:08,679
We need Bogey.

625
00:37:09,039 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: We do need Bogey. What we don't need is as

626
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,880
I refreshed, X is more. No, No, he hasn't say

627
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,800
anything in eleven minutes. We're clear, Mark, even as I'm

628
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,320
post to anything for eleven minutes.

629
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: It's insane.

630
00:37:26,639 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: I can't keep up with all this.

631
00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: His personal assistant has to be in hell right now,

632
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,119
you know what I mean? Just being like Mark, just

633
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:35,079
let it go. Man.

634
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,599
Speaker 2: Did I tell you about the time I pitched a

635
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:43,320
TV show to Mark Cuban, Well, I wasn't on Shark Tank.

636
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,079
I was, uh, you know, I didn't make it into

637
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:51,639
the aquarium. I had a treatment that was in a

638
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:54,760
gift bag that I went to a Lakers Dallas game

639
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,079
of O nine to try to get a hold of him,

640
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,119
to get in touch with him, and so I got

641
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:02,320
there extra early. I'm at Staples Center and I caught

642
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,599
him by the tunnel and the overhang. So I'm standing

643
00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:09,960
up here and I lower the gift bag down to him. Mark.

644
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,920
Mark got his attention. And there's a treatment for a

645
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,480
television show and it also had a gift in it

646
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,199
and instead saying World's best dad, it said world's best

647
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:22,800
owner in Mavericks colors.

648
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,559
Speaker 1: Okay, a T shirt? So far? What was the show

649
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:29,320
called like Adam Knows Best or something?

650
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:36,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was I think I don't want to I

651
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:37,960
don't want to say too much, but it was just

652
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,760
like a sports show. There's still time. It's only been

653
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,079
fifteen years. Sixteen years. It was a sports show. And

654
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:52,480
he emailed me, and I have the email. It was

655
00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:55,639
later that night or the next day, and I held

656
00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:58,039
on to this one. God was this pre Shark Tank

657
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,159
oh nine, And it's said.

658
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: Got to hear the story.

659
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:07,119
Speaker 2: He said, there's already a show like that. Thanks for

660
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:12,840
the T shirt, which lets me know he didn't read

661
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,840
the treatment because we compared the differences between our show

662
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:17,800
and that show.

663
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: Send me, send me the treatment, Chuck.

664
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: We've only worked together a couple of years.

665
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: Now, Okay, we'll put on the Patreon. We're welcoming Justin Rousseau,

666
00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:34,440
whose microphone is covering half of his face. That's perfect,

667
00:39:37,039 --> 00:39:39,920
mister Russeau, How are you doing? Just first of all,

668
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,079
you're muted. We can't hear you.

669
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,679
Speaker 2: Who cares how he's doing. Let's get to the meat

670
00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:48,360
and potatoes, which might have been what he was eating.

671
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:57,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, nope, just go know mic just go computer.

672
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 2: Microphone, it don't work.

673
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, I like this.

674
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 2: Let's win it, Dow, let's go bowling, Let's go clippers.

675
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:07,599
Speaker 3: Can you hear me now?

676
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 2: Or no?

677
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:09,119
Speaker 1: There we go? We got you.

678
00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:12,079
Speaker 3: Okay, it's that's my AirPods. I don't want it through

679
00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:13,159
the AirPods, though.

680
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. Man's the only

681
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,920
way we can hear you. Do uh say again?

682
00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: Nope, I get it. When you get a new microphone,

683
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,000
you want it to actually works. Later, I think the

684
00:40:28,159 --> 00:40:30,199
whole reason he is coming on is to test out

685
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:31,119
his new microphone.

686
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 3: Then he'll go back, No, no, this is this is

687
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,880
not a new microphone. I've had this microphope for like

688
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,039
ten years and I.

689
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,519
Speaker 1: Don't know what it is.

690
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,039
Speaker 2: You know what it is on the back.

691
00:40:44,159 --> 00:40:48,559
Speaker 3: But yeah, I updated my my Mac operating system because

692
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,760
Apple rolled out all those things and the other I

693
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,840
updated it two days ago and I've been having an

694
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,119
audio ship with it since.

695
00:40:56,159 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: So all right Mac mac uh oh updates aside, which

696
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,079
I know is what most people came to talk about.

697
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,360
Where are you? We got about ten minutes justin what

698
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,480
do you make? What's I love your piece about it?

699
00:41:11,519 --> 00:41:12,639
I shared it with your chat.

700
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 3: Thank you.

701
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: This is just a nightmare until it's over, right or yeah, okay.

702
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:27,039
Speaker 3: I there's I'm up two minds, Like, obviously, if something

703
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:31,400
the fairy has happened, then yeah, like the books should

704
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,400
be thrown at them. No one should ever argue otherwise.

705
00:41:35,639 --> 00:41:40,559
I think it's weird when people kind of retort back

706
00:41:40,599 --> 00:41:44,199
with yeah, but other teams are probably doing this, like okay, maybe,

707
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,159
but those other teams in this instance would not have

708
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:52,480
been caught, so you can't you can't hold it against

709
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,920
someone if they're not caught for it. So it's also

710
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,519
really interesting because I've had discussions with people. This is

711
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:01,000
what the last few weeks have been like for me.

712
00:42:01,079 --> 00:42:03,639
It's like I've covered the Sparks, so like there's people

713
00:42:03,639 --> 00:42:05,760
there that will obviously like they know I covered the Clippers,

714
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,400
wi They're talk to me about it, and then we

715
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,280
have these really long conversations and every every conversation always

716
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,800
just ends with me going, I don't know. I also

717
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,360
kind of don't care, Like that sounds bad.

718
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: I know what you mean, though, don't know.

719
00:42:19,559 --> 00:42:22,519
Speaker 2: Don't care? Is the T shirt that.

720
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 3: Should be the investigation T shirt that the Clippers rock

721
00:42:25,079 --> 00:42:25,679
every day?

722
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: But no, we do not need a team wide Well

723
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,280
I'll tell you what the members don't need is a

724
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:37,719
team wide boycott of the investigation. I think that hurts

725
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,440
public pr more than more than Mark Cuban.

726
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,679
Speaker 3: Maybe fair. I maybe my my thought process on this

727
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,559
has been too and I didn't put this in the article,

728
00:42:47,559 --> 00:42:50,639
but this is how I've I've verbalized it to other people.

729
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,400
No crime was really committed, like we like, if you

730
00:42:54,480 --> 00:43:01,400
actually read everything, there's no actual crime. There is the

731
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,480
alleged breach of the CBA, which.

732
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: Yeah about actual crime, right, yeah.

733
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:16,639
Speaker 3: No, well the aspiration has been yeah, correct. I guess

734
00:43:16,639 --> 00:43:19,840
that this context of the Clippers could be criminals by proxy

735
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,719
at that point, but you know, you never know.

736
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: That would be better, maybe, I don't think.

737
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:28,119
Speaker 3: But like, so it comes down to like a moral

738
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:34,880
and an integrity issue essentially, and an ethical issue. Now.

739
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:40,519
I also think that optically it looks awful. No one

740
00:43:40,519 --> 00:43:45,800
could dispute that optically it's horrendous of a look. I

741
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:51,320
also think that there are people on both sides publicly

742
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,480
who have handled this about as poor as people can

743
00:43:54,519 --> 00:43:59,360
handle it. You have one side that is completely convinced

744
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:04,920
that there was no wrongdoing, and maybe there wasn't, but

745
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,360
we don't know. And you have the other side that

746
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,519
has done their heels in, which is the Clippers are guilty.

747
00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: And let's execute everybody who Yeah.

748
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,159
Speaker 3: And that could be the case too, but like we

749
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,800
don't know, because there's an investigation and look, but I

750
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,840
also feel like a lot of this is very performative.

751
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,039
Speaker 1: Like of course, like Adam brought up, like Mark Cuban,

752
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,440
I think as soon as Adam said it like kind

753
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,480
of clearly now has kind of a personal condet against.

754
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also I will say about Mark Cuban, someone

755
00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:41,199
should form him that when you tweet something out and

756
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,639
your tweet says the words show more. If your tweet

757
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,159
runs on for for more than three more words beyond that,

758
00:44:48,599 --> 00:44:53,639
no one's reading that, Like, no one is reading.

759
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: No one is five thousand words chat GPT dictated breakdown

760
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,159
of either clippers are anything.

761
00:45:01,679 --> 00:45:03,639
Speaker 3: I don't need to go on Twitter and get a

762
00:45:03,679 --> 00:45:05,039
full rendition of the Iliad.

763
00:45:05,199 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's you should read the Iliad because.

764
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 3: I have the book in my back room.

765
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, but that's honesty.

766
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,519
Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, come on, man.

767
00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:21,679
Speaker 3: I don't go on Twitter to read you know, these

768
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,480
long things like it's it's all absurd and so like

769
00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:29,199
Mark Cuban is on one side just being absurd and

770
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,920
then pabulatory, who's done incredible reporting. I'm not dismissing his

771
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,920
reporting or course or anything that he's done over the

772
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,760
last seven months to bring this to light. And I

773
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,920
understand that he has to go through a vetting process

774
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,400
with information with lawyers and all this stuff, but it

775
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,679
also feels performative on that end when like it's like

776
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,840
little by little and.

777
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: Look, that's not saying about like the goalpost can be

778
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,440
moved because he's waiting to release information. So it's like, well,

779
00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:00,679
now what about this, Like it's like I do think, gotcha,

780
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,119
he can still just release it later.

781
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: And I'm understand, I understand, like that's part of investigative journalism,

782
00:46:06,039 --> 00:46:08,960
Like not everything comes to light at one time, right,

783
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:11,599
but it's it just feels like everything just feels like

784
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,760
the slowest of burns, and it's just at a certain point.

785
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,639
I got, like a week ago, I got to the

786
00:46:17,679 --> 00:46:21,960
point where I was just like, this is dumb. Why

787
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:27,320
why should anyone even care? Until the investigation wraps up?

788
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,519
Speaker 2: Neither of these guys are gonna determine the outcome.

789
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: And of Pablo started it for sure, but he's not gonna.

790
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,159
Like Adam said, if Pablo has two thousand pages, what

791
00:46:39,199 --> 00:46:43,519
do we think the law firm that pays the most

792
00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:47,400
and charges the most billable hours every single year, it's

793
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,840
going to like we gotta wait for everything.

794
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,039
Speaker 3: I mean, the only there's two so like there's two

795
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:56,920
things in the case because I've read all through this crap.

796
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: You've read all the cases.

797
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 5: No, I've read through Like I was like, just stop,

798
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,559
I've read through like what's been released right in terms

799
00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:15,880
of like this, you know the information that everyone else Yeah, okay, great, yeah, No,

800
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,159
I'm not that psychotic that makes me feel.

801
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,039
Speaker 3: Better about your well being, but I might like this

802
00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:23,760
point where I was reading through it and I'm just like,

803
00:47:25,559 --> 00:47:30,679
what's the point like because of the of the slow

804
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,599
league and stuff. Well, no, just like, what's the point

805
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:37,719
about everyone getting up in arms about this on mid.

806
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: September when hey, it's a year round league. Dude, Sylvia

807
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,119
to be a year round league and he got it.

808
00:47:45,159 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 3: I mean, they're not going to come to any you know,

809
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,880
conclusion on this until well after the All Star break,

810
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,400
and that had been known even before that came out

811
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,000
like yesterday, I guess, like it had been known that

812
00:47:57,039 --> 00:47:59,440
like this is gonna take and you know, a while,

813
00:47:59,559 --> 00:48:02,400
just simply because the NBA doesn't want to pull an

814
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,880
All Star Game out of Los Angeles, and I.

815
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: Know they don't want to give it to they don't

816
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,039
want to give it to Crypto, like I've seen people

817
00:48:09,079 --> 00:48:09,639
claimoring for.

818
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: So this is where I get to, This is where

819
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,800
I get to say I've been inside Crypto Arena, probably

820
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,679
more recently than a lot of people who are saying

821
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,840
that the All Star Games should go there. No, the

822
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,320
All Star Games should not go there. I've been inside

823
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:30,199
that arenas as recently as about ten days ago. No,

824
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,840
just no, it's the amount of construction happening in that

825
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,360
arena is ridiculous. Now, I understand, I understand by February

826
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,599
a lot of that's already dissipated. But no, that arena

827
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:45,199
cannot host an All Star game anymore. It just can't happen.

828
00:48:45,519 --> 00:48:48,199
Speaker 2: It's like a high school auditorium compared into it. Don't

829
00:48:48,199 --> 00:48:52,199
come on, it's just it's it is what it is

830
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:52,760
at this point.

831
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 3: But there was something else though. It was a oh,

832
00:48:57,599 --> 00:48:59,840
the most fascinating thing to me and all this was

833
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,639
the sit down with ESPN, which I completely understand both

834
00:49:04,679 --> 00:49:06,199
sides who are like, he shouldn't have done it, and

835
00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:08,400
then I understand the side that was like, it's fine,

836
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:09,400
he has to do it.

837
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,559
Speaker 1: There's not a there's not like we already have sorry

838
00:49:12,599 --> 00:49:14,440
to cut you off. At my point point here is

839
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,199
the Clippers already have one very key member of his

840
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,679
whole story who is not going to say anything, which

841
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,719
is Kawhi Leonard. So if you're Steve Balmer, you're not

842
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,360
even gonna have like not in the sense of like,

843
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,920
ohkah I should have a podcast, Like Kawhi is not

844
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,440
going to say anything about this. So the whole kind

845
00:49:35,519 --> 00:49:39,400
of like someone has to try and save face for

846
00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:42,679
the team does fall on Bomber, as it should as

847
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,960
the guy who's also involved with this thing. But I

848
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,119
think he felt that pressure even more when you have

849
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:52,000
someone like Kawhi who is watching the US Open and

850
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,320
you know, like, no, this like he should do that.

851
00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:57,840
But you know what I mean, like he he had

852
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,079
to say something.

853
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: In terms of judging in on how it played. I

854
00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:06,639
think the audience that he was speaking to Clipper Nation,

855
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,360
for the most part, I think they felt good about

856
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,599
it overall. I did, Honestly. I didn't hear many people

857
00:50:14,599 --> 00:50:19,639
on Clipper Nation complaining about it because he was saying like, basically,

858
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,280
we get it, We're we're in this together. We want

859
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:23,840
to know that we are on the up and up,

860
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,639
and you can believe in us in this franchise. That

861
00:50:27,679 --> 00:50:32,440
did not come across as I thought it came across

862
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,599
as credible the way he the way he spoke, I

863
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:36,679
thought he spoke well.

864
00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:39,519
Speaker 3: Yeh I it was it was.

865
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:41,639
Speaker 6: It all falls in line with the performative aspect of

866
00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:43,159
a lot of things that we've already talked about. Like

867
00:50:43,199 --> 00:50:45,480
it was, it was very much like the way I'm

868
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,079
going to tell my side of the story is as

869
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,880
much as I can right now. But what I was

870
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,800
gonna say is the interesting The only interesting thing that

871
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,000
he really said in that entire thing, at least to me,

872
00:50:55,639 --> 00:50:58,000
was when he mentioned that they'd already handed everything over

873
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:00,760
to the DJ as far as like emails and stuff.

874
00:51:01,039 --> 00:51:02,519
And the only reason I say that I found that

875
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:05,679
interesting is because that is above and beyond like the

876
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,480
NBA purview of things. So like, while the NBA can

877
00:51:09,519 --> 00:51:12,519
get emails and stuff, and they can obviously the investigator,

878
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,119
well they can get the email.

879
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:22,199
Speaker 1: And sending them countless emails.

880
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 3: And well you're just one person. You're you're you're not

881
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:24,639
a highlight guy.

882
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:29,199
Speaker 1: So Adam Silver at NBA dot com, that's who I've

883
00:51:29,199 --> 00:51:30,119
been sending these two.

884
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: They've been getting them chucked. They also have been printing

885
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,679
them and then putting them into a shredder.

886
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: I hope I'm costing them some money.

887
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 2: Is it true that you mentioned Steve Bomber saying we've

888
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:51,360
already submitted this stuff well, is it true that Steve

889
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,280
Bomber and the Clippers were one of the parties to

890
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,400
report the fraud to the SEC?

891
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:05,079
Speaker 3: Going on, I'm not exactly I'm not exactly certain of

892
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:10,400
who uh brought it up to the SEC. I'm really

893
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,199
not I from what I from what I remember from

894
00:52:13,199 --> 00:52:13,800
the stuff that I've.

895
00:52:13,679 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: Wanted, what did you bring up to the SEC? Misters,

896
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:16,960
So let's talk about that.

897
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,119
Speaker 3: I brought up role Tiede is what I brought to

898
00:52:20,159 --> 00:52:23,000
the SEC at this point?

899
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: Bringing much then, because they're.

900
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,119
Speaker 1: I'm not even an I'm not an Alabama fan. But

901
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:30,800
if the SEC ever questioned me about anything, I'm going.

902
00:52:30,679 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 3: To honestly, you probably get out of anything that you want.

903
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would someone who saw the case would be like,

904
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,000
all right, no, he's actually.

905
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 3: Like this guy gets it like you know.

906
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: Not that I heard that somewhere where they were one

907
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:49,800
of the entities that reported Joe Sandberg for fraud to

908
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:54,000
the SEC could have been I. If anybody has an answer,

909
00:52:54,079 --> 00:52:55,920
please hit us up. In the comments.

910
00:52:56,039 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 3: A lot of people, Yeah, incredible. You can't just say whatever.

911
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 2: Old double source it with two comments, have.

912
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: Another comment agrees with you? That sealed baby.

913
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:14,199
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm very interested to see what happens because this,

914
00:53:14,199 --> 00:53:17,440
this is probably the closest that we'll see in a

915
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:22,719
while to an organization possibly being on the brink of

916
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:28,039
a potential death penalty in sports. Like when I know

917
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:29,079
that term us to get thrown.

918
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: Around, Well, let's wait for the ni L situation.

919
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,079
Speaker 3: I mean, usc USC got it with Reggie Bush right

920
00:53:39,199 --> 00:53:42,079
like for at least a little while, and then SMU

921
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,000
historically got it back in.

922
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 2: The eighties only excess.

923
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's what happened. And I mean the championships,

924
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,920
though the Timberwolves got it to some degree, the Clippers

925
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,360
would just get it to a you know whatever, and

926
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:00,960
so yeah, like.

927
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: Maybe you're getting a death penalty. Like death penalty to

928
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,440
me is like operate as a second Apron team for

929
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:11,119
five years, no matter what, lose five more first round picks.

930
00:54:11,199 --> 00:54:16,760
Kawhi's contracts pointed, I mean, who's who's to say that

931
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,800
just seems like like.

932
00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: Based upon what we've seen so far, you could say

933
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,360
that's unlikely. But the NBA is doing an investigation. Let's

934
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:26,079
see what happens.

935
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of my whole thing is I don't

936
00:54:29,039 --> 00:54:30,639
know what's gonna.

937
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,079
Speaker 1: I would like them to only be fined two second

938
00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:33,719
round picks.

939
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,559
Speaker 3: Why those are the picks they do well with? Like

940
00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:43,800
if anything, wait, wait you could you could take the

941
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:54,480
first Yeah, it's like the leave the gun, take the canoe. No,

942
00:54:54,679 --> 00:54:58,760
they're Look, anyone who says that this isn't a big

943
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deal's kidding themselves. I just I'm just mostly like what

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do you do? Like, media day is gonna be media day.

945
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They're gonna get asked about it and they have to. Look,

946
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they're gonna tell the line, which they should, and I'm.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna lash out at a question, you know, Like.

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Speaker 3: No, Like I mean, they're just gonna answer it with

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to some degree of like, you know, that's a league investigation.

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We can't comment on it. And that's just gonna be

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what they have to answer to everything. And that's just

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the way that it is. And I don't fault them

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for it. That's just what's gonna happen. And yeah, I

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don't know. I mean, I wrote that piece yesterday and

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it had been something I had been contemplating writing for

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a while. But then obviously this whole thing happened. And

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then Baxter wrote his ESPN thing, which was really good

958
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and it was just like it was really good, Chuck.

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We don't have to sit here and make faces.

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Speaker 2: It was good for a recap.

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Speaker 3: I like, well, it wasn't. His thing wasn't meant to

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be a recap. His thing is basically saying that independent

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of what's transpiring the Clippers to a front office degree

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of basically.

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Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, we knew that.

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Speaker 2: They're not building around a guy who's thirty four and

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going to be thirty five next But I didn't find that.

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Speaker 3: If I was on Steve's payroll, you wouldn't see me anymore.

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Speaker 1: Who is this reporter who seems to only watch the

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game via helicopter, He's never even at the stadium.

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Speaker 3: I just no. I mean Baxter's piece, I get why

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00:56:34,679 --> 00:56:38,000
people think it was like whatever, But in it, when

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he's talking to two dozen sources directly tied to the Clippers,

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and you have an actual Clippers officials telling you flat

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00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,159
out like we're over the like we're just done with

976
00:56:48,199 --> 00:56:51,280
the Kawhi Leonard stuff, that's a pretty big deal. That's

977
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,000
not like a you know, a roundabout way of like,

978
00:56:55,079 --> 00:56:57,440
oh well they you know, they're kind of over them

979
00:56:57,519 --> 00:56:59,719
and all this. No, like this is someone directly telling

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00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,239
you like this, like it. They're done with, Like they're

981
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:07,000
done with the idea of him being there. Guy. Now,

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when I ended up writing.

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Speaker 2: Was, but he's thirty four. Like to say you're building

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00:57:11,519 --> 00:57:14,400
around somebody in his mid thirties doesn't make a lot

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00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:14,880
of sense.

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00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,599
Speaker 3: I don't think they meant it from like the building

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00:57:17,639 --> 00:57:20,119
around standpoint. I think they meant it from like the

988
00:57:20,199 --> 00:57:22,440
dealing with the drama of him standpoint.

989
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Speaker 1: What drama?

990
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:25,039
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, what the hell are you talking about?

992
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 3: It's like the regular Friday.

993
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 2: Night What was the quote of the last thing that

994
00:57:33,079 --> 00:57:35,599
said in the article? It sounds like building around to me.

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00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,039
Speaker 3: I'd have to pull it back up.

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00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:43,239
Speaker 1: I don't we know you got you know you got that. Yeah,

997
00:57:43,519 --> 00:57:44,760
a couple of minutes when I have to.

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00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,719
Speaker 3: Leave, Okay, Uh the balloons, man, the balloon, the balloons

999
00:57:49,719 --> 00:57:56,400
are out, Buddy Jesus Christ was Wait where do it go? Uh?

1000
00:57:57,079 --> 00:57:59,599
They're done building around Kawhi. They know that, and he

1001
00:57:59,679 --> 00:58:01,599
knows that. Yeah that's from a former staffer, but he

1002
00:58:01,639 --> 00:58:04,960
had the person on there from the actual staffer earlier

1003
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,440
in the article, Like they've been done building around him

1004
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,000
for like the last eighteen months. That's why. That's why

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00:58:12,039 --> 00:58:14,119
when I wrote like the thing the other day or yesterday,

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00:58:14,159 --> 00:58:18,840
like the first telling sign of it was James. Yeah,

1007
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,440
like like yeah, you could go out and get James

1008
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,960
for kawhi MPG. But it's also like James is just

1009
00:58:25,039 --> 00:58:28,000
the guy who's there every day. That's the guy they're

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00:58:28,039 --> 00:58:31,960
trying to Like, Yes, and as I wrote, you can

1011
00:58:32,039 --> 00:58:36,920
qubble every everything after that. But you know, I but

1012
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,159
this is I haven't put pen to paper on this yet,

1013
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,199
but this speaks to a larger thing that I've that

1014
00:58:42,239 --> 00:58:45,159
I've mentioned, uh in passing to some people, which is

1015
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:52,159
I think they accidentally stumbled upon their pathway forward, which

1016
00:58:52,199 --> 00:58:54,679
is that they're just basically building around Zoo at this point,

1017
00:58:55,239 --> 00:58:57,760
not in like a Zoo's our superstar, but like Zoo

1018
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:01,039
is the guy that we should build a round for

1019
00:59:01,119 --> 00:59:04,000
the next five however many years beyond.

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Speaker 2: That well foundational piece.

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00:59:06,159 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, and they stumbled upon that. Don't let anyone

1022
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,239
ever fool you and tell you like this was something

1023
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:13,719
that they of course they.

1024
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Speaker 1: Stumbled upon it. They traded Mike Muskala for Zoo. Okay,

1025
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,199
didn't even ask about it.

1026
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,559
Speaker 3: But I don't mean from that standpoint, I don't mean

1027
00:59:22,599 --> 00:59:25,199
from that standpoint. I mean from like they tried to

1028
00:59:25,239 --> 00:59:29,159
replace them with Serge of Baka basically that didn't. They

1029
00:59:29,239 --> 00:59:32,199
tried to basically go the three star route with Russ

1030
00:59:32,599 --> 00:59:36,159
that didn't work. They brought in James to basically, you know,

1031
00:59:36,239 --> 00:59:40,719
augment Kawhi and PG. That didn't didn't really work at all.

1032
00:59:41,039 --> 00:59:42,960
And then it's like, all right, well, we're just gonna

1033
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,400
let PG go give more touches to Zoo. We won

1034
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,920
fifty games. I guess we could just keep doing that

1035
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:52,719
and it worked.

1036
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think obviously some people on the front

1037
00:59:56,239 --> 00:59:58,880
office didn't want to do the rush thing.

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, one of one of them, a pretty prominent

1039
01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:06,800
member of the front office. Yeah, all right, I have

1040
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,920
to get out of here. I could talk about this

1041
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:12,599
in the next three hours, justin do you want to

1042
01:00:12,639 --> 01:00:14,360
come on next week at some point and talk about this.

1043
01:00:15,039 --> 01:00:17,079
It's more interesting than talking about the Kauhi bullshit.

1044
01:00:18,079 --> 01:00:19,159
Speaker 3: That's fair, that's fair.

1045
01:00:19,239 --> 01:00:20,599
Speaker 1: I mean, it's real bad.

1046
01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 3: Listen. I just want to say one thing. I respect

1047
01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:30,079
Kawhi for just going to the US Open like nothing happened.

1048
01:00:30,639 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: It's expected.

1049
01:00:31,559 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, but like it's still very funny, like.

1050
01:00:38,119 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: Like listening to headphones.

1051
01:00:39,559 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, wired headphones even more respect to that. Like this

1052
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,280
is like if any other athlete had been brought up

1053
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,639
to light on anything like this, they wouldn't have shown

1054
01:00:52,679 --> 01:00:56,960
their face make a statement though. I don't think they

1055
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,119
would have. Okay, I just I just kind of say

1056
01:01:00,159 --> 01:01:03,599
most of the time they just there's not one needed.

1057
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,039
I mean. And then next when we whenever we talk

1058
01:01:06,119 --> 01:01:08,199
next week, I kind of just think that we can

1059
01:01:08,239 --> 01:01:09,760
all delve into the Uncle Bennas stuff.

1060
01:01:10,599 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds awesome fun justin where can you exactly? Justin,

1061
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,360
where can people find your stuff?

1062
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,239
Speaker 3: No one needs a look for my stuff, Seriously, it's

1063
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:21,599
it's the off season right now.

1064
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: Next week I'll say things like that, where can people

1065
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:25,079
find your stuff?

1066
01:01:25,639 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 3: You can find me at justin russlo dot substack dot

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01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,320
com or at fly by Night.

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01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:30,079
Speaker 2: K and I t E.

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01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: Thank you and thank you for your content for Clippers

1070
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:37,280
fans and for WNBA fans. Adam one positive thing. And

1071
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:38,840
where can people find your new show.

1072
01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 2: Fn A on FSR or later tonight eleven to two

1073
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,159
on Fox Sports Radio. That'll be on A five to

1074
01:01:46,199 --> 01:01:49,079
seven LA Sports after the Dodgers game locally here, but

1075
01:01:49,639 --> 01:01:52,000
throughout the country. You can find Fox Sports Radio.

1076
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: And where can they find you? On the twenty.

1077
01:01:55,199 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 2: Eighth, twenty seventh, I think is not this Saturday, but

1078
01:01:59,519 --> 01:02:02,480
next Saturday. Today I'll be at Morongo Casino doing some

1079
01:02:02,519 --> 01:02:06,000
Clippers talk for iHeart Radio at five pm. Come on by,

1080
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:07,119
come say hi.

1081
01:02:07,199 --> 01:02:11,039
Speaker 1: Come on by. Adam will be at Adam twenty six gambling.

1082
01:02:11,559 --> 01:02:14,239
Speaker 3: Adam is gonna be brought up on insider trading at

1083
01:02:14,239 --> 01:02:15,280
Morongo for the Clippers.

1084
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,639
Speaker 1: No, no, alright, see Russo this is what we don't

1085
01:02:19,639 --> 01:02:22,400
have you on. Man, all right, We will talk to

1086
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,239
everyone later. Thank you for hanging out. Find us at

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01:02:24,239 --> 01:02:27,079
YouTube dot com, just at Clippers Podcast. Find me on

1088
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:29,440
Twitter at Chuck Buckler if you feel like it, and

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01:02:29,519 --> 01:02:32,159
the show is at clippers Pod. Good night and have

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a wonderful weekend. Here's to know more stories coming out.