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Speaker 1: Made de San John have face sunny sun.

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Speaker 2: Lord on I haddasion my night. So what's up everybody.

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Speaker 3: I'm back, And thank you to Stephanie the Bitch is

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back for holding down the fort while I was gone.

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Speaker 1: I sure did.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I did you you missed? Did you listen to any

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of the shows?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your honesty, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Uh well, but I saw the great feedback on our

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Facebook page.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're having Meredith for the first week,

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and then we had Meredith and her friend Maul's on

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that Friday show. Then last week we had Robin oh oh,

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Robin for the first show, and then my friend Tamera

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for the second show. So funny because so she did

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a Patreon for us. Yeah, and she will and she

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told a story about Ryan Murphy, director, and then we

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both talked about this guy from our kids who runs

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speech and debate a little behind the scenes gossipy thing. Yeah.

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But then afterwards she wrote me and she was like,

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damn it, because I had asked her if she worked

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with many problematic people, and she's like, I forgot to

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tell you my Harvey Weinstein story, and I really, damn it. Well,

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let's get her on I know, I said, well, you'll

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be back. Yeah, come on, I think she should come

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on with both of us, So yes, for sure.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I would love to hear the Harvey

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Wine scene. Wow, that's a juice, I know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry I missed it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think she's seen his penis, but you know,

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yeah whoa but you never know, you never she has.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, any Harvey Weinstein story is a good story.

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Speaker 1: Probably penis or no penis. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I'm back. Yes,

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So you were in Florida.

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Speaker 2: I was in Florida for.

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Speaker 3: About a week and a half and then well I'll

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explain everything, but yeah, we were supposed to go to

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Phoenix for a girl's trip with Wendy's girlfriends the last

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half of the trip of Florida, okay, from like Thursday

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to Sunday kind of thing, and then that got canceled.

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after another. Sor right, So what basically, Well, first of all,

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out of lax to Florida. Have to take two flights

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to get to where she is, but I took an

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uber driver, and the Uber driver I planned him the

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night before. I said, pick me up at three forty

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five am, you know kind of thing. So his name

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is Ricardo and he comes at three forty five, picks

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me up, super great, nice, like very friendly. I was like,

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I'll be out in two minutes. He's like, take your time.

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Speaker 2: I went to sleep at like eleven.

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Speaker 1: And then woke up at like three. Yeah, but then

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slept on the plane. Okay.

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Speaker 3: So he picks me up and we're talking and he's

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full blooded Italian. Oh yeah, and it was a really

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great conversation. I was ready to just listen to my

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earbuds and not talk to him, but we started talking.

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I'm like, where's your accent from? He sounded like my

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mom and he's from Italy. And then by the end

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of the trip I made him cry because he was

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telling me that he just found out. He says, I

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don't know why I'm telling you this is stuff, but

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my real father. That I thought it was my real father,

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but my mother she telling me that's not my real father.

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and I find that my real father, and anyway, I

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connected with my real father and then he started like

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tearing up and I was like, so when he got

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to meet you, Ricardo.

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Speaker 1: I feel like like it.

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him to pick me up on the way back.

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card because he does it on the side kind of thing.

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the way back. So anyway, okay, So I go to Florida. Well,

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in the sun. Okay, it's it's it was beautiful. Wendy

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back side of the chair. Well, then the next day

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on my shoulder blade, in between my shoulder blade and

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my spine. And I'm thinking there spider bites. And I

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was like, look at these bites. I'm showing Wendy, and

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there's like a cluster of them and two spots. So

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and it was hurting really bad. It was like sting it.

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take you to urgent care or something, and I was like, no,

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bactine or whatever the spray bug spike, it like the

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burningness went away after a while. Anyway, So after a

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few days there was another cluster next to it, and

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it was still hurting, and I was sleeping a lot,

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unusually a lot, like I was really extra tired. I

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thought it was just I'm on vacation and it's you know,

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jet lag kind of thing. But I was really tired.

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the bite thing, but then I'm just thinking, there's still

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spider bites. Now a couple days later, I see another

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cluster to the left of it, So now I'm like,

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this is not spider bites. So then I was like, well,

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maybe it's shingles. So I sent doctor Bruce a picture

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of it, and he was like, yeah, I'm probably most

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likely those are not shingles. So I never went to

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the doctor spoil alert. So I'm not one hundred percent

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positive if I had shingles. But it looks like I

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got shingles.

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was googling it, and I am a doctor. Yeah I

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can diagnose over the picture, but I compared it to

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other pictures of shingles, just to be professional, you know,

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and it sure looked like that. But I feel like

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shingles every story I've heard it sounds god awful, right.

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Speaker 4: Isn't it like really painful?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what people said, And you said it wasn't.

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remember the thing that I remember about shingles is that

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David Letterman had shingles many years ago and was out

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for like weeks and talked then came back and talked

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about how it was just the most painful, horrible thing

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he'd right.

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Speaker 3: Through, right, But you were like, no, I'm pretty functional still. Yeah,

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of like flaky and like kind of like like dried

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Speaker 2: It's hard to explain.

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Speaker 3: But and it was painful and I was but but

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it wasn't like I couldn't function painful. It was just

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I was like tired, and then I threw up. So

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almost gone.

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Speaker 1: But it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: And you know, Olga, I hear her in my head

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is constantly like, Lynette, you need to go get your

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shingle shot. You need to get your shingles vaccine. You

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need to And I kept going, Okay, i'll do it,

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I'll do it, I'll do it, and I never did it.

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Speaker 1: I know I haven't done it either. Maybe maybe you should.

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And now I'm gonna go get a measles vaccine too,

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because I happened to be born in this weird spot.

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group where they came out with the vaccine, but then

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we got like a dead vaccine, so it doesn't last

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as long somehow. So I need a booster. I only

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need one because I have been vaccinated for measles. But

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so I need one shot and so does John. Where

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it's like a.

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Speaker 2: Did you did you talk to doctor knock Around about that?

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Speaker 1: Is that? How you know? John called doctor knock Around's

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office and asked, okay, yeah, okay, and he said, yeah,

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just do one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do you have to go to him?

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Speaker 1: No, you can just go to ces Okay, all right? Yeah. Yeah.

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I didn't get a flu shot this year either, and

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neither did John. I didn't neither. So far I didn't

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get the flu, so I don't know if I need

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a flu shot now. I'm usually on top of this stuff.

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Speaker 3: And I've had the the chicken pox twice my life. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now they vaccinate for chicken pox, right, But we

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got the smallpox vaccine and then that's the one that left.

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marked against smallpox. Yeah. Yeah, I'm very pro vaccine. I

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pretty insane that people are literally going to have kids

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who die from measles and be like, well, so be it. Yeah,

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better than getting a vaccination. Ridiculous. So yeah, but yeah,

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I'd rather not get measles, and I'd rather my kids

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don't get measles. But that's just me. I'm crazy. I'm crazy.

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I'm crazy with my parenting.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I don't know I need to get

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I don't know now if I should get the shingles

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if I had it or not. And now even if

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it's been now I'm going on the third week of it.

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they are, so I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'll keep you guys posted. Okay, hey, before we get

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back to your your trip, which I want to hear more,

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and I also have another comment about something you said before.

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I have a new podcast that I started, and it's

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called Drunkish, and basically I get every time we talk

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saying that they want to quit drinking, and you know

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that they really like hearing about that. And it's sort

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where so many many years ago, when I first quit drinking,

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one point John was like, you gotta like stop. That's

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all you write about now, and your whole audience is

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just going to be people that you know, right, You're

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going to tire your audience about hearing about your sobriety,

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which you know, when you first get sober, it is

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like joining a cult. You're like, that's your whole life,

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about quitting drinking. So I made my blog once a

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what the fuck ish? So it's just a guest and

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you know, I share that experience. So anyway, so I've

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Speaker 2: Okay, it is up. You can subscribe to it. There's

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a trailer and that I made really good.

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Speaker 1: That I sent to Annette that and that I talked

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about on Facebook, but I didn't talk about it on

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our podcast yet. Go look up it's drunk Ish drunk

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in a week on April eighth, four episodes are going

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to drop in your feed. Nice and one of them

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Speaker 2: I want to listen. I can't wait to listen to that.

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and she's really great. And then anymore, two more, and

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some coming up. This week. I'm gonna be supporting with

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Bonnie McFarlane's husband Rich Voss. Uh yeah, yeah, And you

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said you would do my body would do it? Yeah?

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our friend Meredith who did our podcast, she's been sober

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and like not to just keep talking about this. It's interesting.

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twelve step program, and you don't have to. So I

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different people do things different ways, and I want there

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in getting sober and there, they might be scared of

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the one you know, step way or the twelve step

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Speaker 2: You know, it's nice. It's encouraging to.

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different and different ways and doing it in their own way.

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people's moment was where they were like, this is not

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working for me. I think I have to quit altogether.

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and to go, oh, I'm not some freak that just

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can't control myself. Other people have experienced this feeling, and

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regardless of whether it's you know, with the with sugar,

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with drugs, whether you get hooked on pain pills, like

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the beginning of that where you start to go, uh oh,

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what's happening. I used to be in control of this,

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a day without drinking, or I can't go a day

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without this, or you know, it starts to control you,

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and it sometimes takes people a short time, and it

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sometimes takes people a lifetime to just go, my god,

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this isn't serving me anymore, and now how do I stop?

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helpful because maybe you feel like you're just terminally unique,

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you know, until somebody talks on a podcast unfiltered, tells

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the truth, and you go, oh my god, I've never

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heard somebody say how I feel. So I do it.

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I've gone to meetings, you know, That's how I did it.

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that I felt like nobody feels like I do. There's

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no moms that are struggling with their drinking. It seems

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so embarrassing to just go like, oh my god, I

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can't stop drinking, and then to hear it was only

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at meetings, right. It wasn't through my friends. I didn't

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know other sober moms. It was through going to meetings

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that I heard people share and say like, oh, this

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is how I feel, and I'd be like, wow, yeah,

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that's somebody else.

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Speaker 4: So it's funny that your blog was called don't Drink

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Fridays because for a while now I've been getting that

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feeling of like drinking really isn't doing anything for me anymore,

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and I think I want to stop. But the way

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that it happens is like every Friday, I do my

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pond work, so then I'm tired and I come home

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and I go, I'm gonna have some drinks at night,

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and that leads to Saturday drinking and then you know,

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if it's football season, I'm gonna have some beers during football.

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was last Friday I was driving home from my pond

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work like, oh, I'm gonna go get drinking. Like I

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was like, you know what, I really don't want to.

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I really don't want to, and so I'm kind of

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exploring the idea of going with the sober life aside

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from mushrooms, So might still do mushrooms? Interesting well, And

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I just you feel so much better.

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Speaker 4: Whole head clears up, Like you can think better, you

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have more energy, you wake up earlier. It's like it's

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just it's so much better.

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of people are not waiting until they reach a quote

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unquote like alcoholic bottom. You know, a lot of people

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are sort of making the choice to go. I think

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I just want to not drink. And it is true

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that drinking sort of begets more drinking. And if you

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have any sort of addictive tendencies and you're doing something

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that is addictive and that is a feeling, like when

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you drink, it lights up the reward center in your brain, right,

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you think of as better, and then there is a

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rebound effect because alcohol is a depressant. But then you

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become in this cycle, so it's hard to get out of.

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it's the same thing as before I quit drinking. It's like,

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I eat sugar, I don't feel good, but eating sugar

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makes me want to eat more sugar, and I think

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I like the feeling, but then I feel bad the

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next day. But then I'm like, Okay, not going to

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eat sugar today. I'm definitely not. And then by that

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night I'm seeing, like I don't know, the kids are

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eating some cookies or something, and I'm like, ah, fuck it,

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I'll just have like I can have one cookie, and

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it just fread cycle continues. Yeah, let's take a quick

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break and we'll come back. Okay, we're back anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah me though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so every Tuesday, it drops every Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna do it on Fridays in honor

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of don't get drunk Fridays. And I told Kaylin. He's like, well,

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why are you dropping them on Fridays? And I was like,

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Cuz I don't know. It seemed like a good day

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to do it, and he's like, well, it's really not.

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So I looked it up and sure enough, it's not

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a good day to drop a podcast.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So I changed it to Tuesdays. That's good. Yeah, that's awesome.

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I mean seven episodes.

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Speaker 1: In the seven episodes in the can. That's amazing scheduled.

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I know. Well, it's been a long time coming. I

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had to get I had to get rights to music,

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I had to you know, do artworks. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks really good.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, yeah, I'm excited. But also I really

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want to have guests. You know, it's funny not to

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talk about this too much now for the podcast biz right,

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So I did this woman's podcast, and I do I'm

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not going to say who it is because I do

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not want to like sound like I'm bad mouthing somebody

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because it really isn't. But this woman who has a

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podcast about sobriety okay, asked me to do her show,

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and I was like, okay, sure, why not. It was

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around the time that I guess the book was coming

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out and she had a very popular YouTube show where

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she interviewed people, not about like sobriety, but just you know,

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interviewed celebrities. So she interviewed a lot of celebrities for

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this sobriety podcast. Let's just call it the Sober Show. Okay.

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I don't know why I'm trying to hide who it is,

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but I just think it's interesting. So I was thinking, Okay,

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so this girl had all these YouTube subscribers, and she's

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you know, it's probably her podcast is probably like pretty big.

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She's been doing episodes for a while. Now. Let me

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just say when she booked me for the show, she

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was like, it's on video. So like I did my makeup,

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you know, and then it was like a whole thing.

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She shot it at this like a location. Okay, she

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had producers, there were stuff going on behind the scenes

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while I was getting ready. It was like being on

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a TV show, right, and somebody was like working on

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her hair. It's just like it is around here. Yeah,

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like super professed. Right. I was a little intimidated. I'm like, okay,

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she's and then okay, So I went and looked it

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up the other day. I'm like, well, I wonder how

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this this is now, Like I don't know, I want

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to say it's I did this like eight months ago

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or something. So I put up a trailer and a

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bunch of you guys who on from Facebook literally from Facebook,

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went and reviewed, not reviewed, it, but you know rated it,

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so it's already got like twenty ratings. I looked up

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the Sober Show. It has sixteen ratings, like two reviews

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from clearly her friends. A bunch of famous people have

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done it. But it's not it's clearly not doing well.

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My episode is not even up there. So here's the

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thing this is. I say all of that to say this.

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I don't think it's about like celebrities. I don't think

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it's people respond necessarily to people's kind of tired stories.

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I don't know that I need to hear I'm not.

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I can't even remember who she had, but I spent

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a bunch of time going like, oh my god, I've

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got to get like famous people. I've got to get

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to this person. I don't. I don't think that the

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magic is in hearing famous people's stories. I think the

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magic is in hearing good stories from regular people who

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are willing to put themselves out there right obviously who

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can broadcast. I don't want somebody who's like terrible at

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telling their story. But you know what I mean, like

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the people who have really changed things for me at meetings,

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not famous, just like certain people speaking to me and

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speaking from the heart. And so I've decided that because,

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like I said, for a while, I was obsessing and

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going like I need to get like celebrities, but I don't.

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Speaker 3: I know, no, I don't think so I agree with

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that now. I mean, are you going to be on YouTube?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the way to go too.

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Speaker 3: Like, you know, I just noticed, like take the Blake

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Lively and just about donnything. I. You know, like I've

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found all the these different podcasters now because they cover

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the Baldoni thing, you know, And that's I think what

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people do is they just look up a subject that

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they're interested in, drinking Baldoni whatever makeup, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Lively like drinking like Lively Baldoni.

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Speaker 2: Right, and then people you know, and then they people

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will find like their podcasters or their YouTubers that they

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like to follow kind of thing, you know. I think

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that's the way it goes now.

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you're interested in a subject, h yeah, there's no limit

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to how many podcasts you can listen to.

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Speaker 2: Right of course. Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 1: I went back and was listening to Invisible Choir episodes,

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which is like the better version of Sword and Scale. God, Lynnette,

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my memory I was. I've probably listened to all the episodes,

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probably three or four times, because I just go back

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and I'm like, yeah, this seems vaguely familiar, but I haven't,

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00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,640
and it'll show when I last played it, and it

469
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,759
will be like a year ago. I'll be like, yeah,

470
00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:08,839
I don't really remember it. I know.

471
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 3: I'm doing that with Wendy. We're watching TV, and you know,

472
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,319
we're looking for things to watch at night, like documentaries

473
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,640
or whatever. I'm like, have you seen this documentary? And

474
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,680
then we'll start watching it and she'll go, oh, yeah,

475
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,920
I did see this, but I have no memory of

476
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,240
what happens, how it worked out, what anything.

477
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: Say to me?

478
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I'll watch something and I don't remember six

479
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,400
months later, and then I feel like I finished it,

480
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,039
because you know, it'll keep going and it'll think that

481
00:26:38,079 --> 00:26:41,119
you're finishing each episode after episode, right, It's like.

482
00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:42,559
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, and I was asleep.

483
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,799
Speaker 2: I didn't sign off that I've done with that episode

484
00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:46,279
that show.

485
00:26:46,759 --> 00:26:50,839
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I feel like at some point Netflix

486
00:26:50,839 --> 00:26:52,640
should have a thing in it that it kind of

487
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,359
can feel your breathing. So if your breathing gets really

488
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,319
slow and regular, it just stops and it goes are

489
00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:03,480
you asleep? And if you don't answer, it goes, Okay,

490
00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:06,680
they're asleep. Right, I'm gonna hold right here. Yeah, actually

491
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,960
go back. I'll go back to when we were last

492
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,359
registering breath noises.

493
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 2: Right, that would be great.

494
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it can double as like a medical alert

495
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,200
bracelet in a way, like you know what I mean,

496
00:27:16,319 --> 00:27:19,240
Like if you're if you're not breathing at all, replix.

497
00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:23,759
It goes to the authorities, yes, cause nine one Yes,

498
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,920
Then you wake up Netflix and it can you know,

499
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,880
if it's an automated thing, you don't have to have

500
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,480
like live operators. It could just reach out. It could

501
00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:35,839
just automatically go to nine one one and then.

502
00:27:35,839 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 2: You know, and then get yeah, yeah, why not.

503
00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:42,319
Speaker 1: I feel like we should trademark that idea though, for

504
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,839
Netflix and maybe get some venture capital money at least

505
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,039
you go pitch it to them, pitch it to some

506
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,480
vcs and just you know, hey, you heard it here.

507
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:57,599
So if we need proof that it was our idea first,

508
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,960
this is this is the proof. Yes, yeah, what do

509
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,319
you think, Kaylin? Is that a good idea.

510
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, fantastic.

511
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: So Kaylin was telling me though, how hard it is

512
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,480
to launch a new podcast. What do you think that

513
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,440
What do you think that is?

514
00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 4: There's just so many podcasts out there, and yeah, you know,

515
00:28:16,839 --> 00:28:19,160
it's it's kind of like, you know, if I go

516
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,720
to like a new restaurant and I go there and

517
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,000
they like, fuck up that first order that I get, like,

518
00:28:24,039 --> 00:28:26,480
I'm not going back there, you know, like you like

519
00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:30,359
really need to grab people on whatever, like their first

520
00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:32,880
intro is to whatever your show is. I feel like

521
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,319
if you don't grab them immediately, then they go like, oh,

522
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,000
all right, well I tried, I'm not going back to

523
00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:39,279
that one. And there's just so many podcasts out there.

524
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:43,160
The market is so oversaturated that building a podcast from

525
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,359
nothing when you don't you know, at least you have

526
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,160
an audience already. You have these people that listen to

527
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,319
this show. Right, I'm starting podcasts with people that have

528
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,319
no audiences, and it can be time and it's yeah,

529
00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:56,079
it's so hard to build to the point where you're

530
00:28:56,119 --> 00:28:58,119
just even making like a little bit of money is

531
00:28:58,279 --> 00:28:59,200
very very difficult.

532
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,759
Speaker 1: I do think that having a platform is probably the

533
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:08,319
key to most things. I mean, I'm coaching people with writing,

534
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,720
and this is not this is my writing class is

535
00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:15,680
separate from this, but I also do coaching for helping

536
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,559
people write their proposals. And my main thing that we

537
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,880
start with is like, who's your audience? No one is

538
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,720
buying your book. If you can't make an audience from scratch,

539
00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:28,480
you have to have something. You have to have some

540
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,119
kind of social media following, some place where people follow

541
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,160
you to do your next thing. I agree with you.

542
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:35,559
I agree.

543
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 4: There's so many different aspects of podcasting that go into it. Like,

544
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,079
you know, I've been doing podcasts for fourteen years, and

545
00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:44,880
even before I started my dad's podcast, I didn't realize

546
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,559
how you know, INEPTI was. It's so many different things.

547
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:51,480
You know, there's the audio, there's the video. There's editing, audio,

548
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:57,680
post audio, video, editing, social media, marketing, algorithms, thumbnails like,

549
00:29:57,799 --> 00:30:00,000
there's so many different things that go into these podcast

550
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:02,079
and a lot of people that have money and can

551
00:30:02,119 --> 00:30:04,960
spend on podcasts, they have teams of like five, six, seven,

552
00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:07,359
eight people doing all these things. So if you're one

553
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,759
person needing to do all these things, it's very, very

554
00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:13,440
time consuming, and you need to be doing it every

555
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,960
single week because consistency is so important in podcasting. You

556
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,880
cannot take breaks, you cannot do that. So on top

557
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,880
of that, it's just it's so much work, and it's uh,

558
00:30:24,079 --> 00:30:25,799
you know, when you're putting in all that work week

559
00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:28,359
after week and you're not seeing the results that you want,

560
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,599
which you probably aren't, it's very disheartening. It's very easy

561
00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:31,640
to go, you know what, I'm going to give up

562
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,920
on this now, when in reality you have to you

563
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,599
have to keep going. You know, you have to keep going.

564
00:30:35,599 --> 00:30:37,319
You have to do it for years. Is what I

565
00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:39,480
tell people who want to start a podcast, Like, if

566
00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:42,400
you want to start a podcast, then you better be

567
00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:44,880
doing it because you love doing it and not just

568
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,400
because you want to make money, and you better be

569
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,039
willing to put in the time and not give up

570
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:50,440
when you think like I should be giving up. A

571
00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:52,000
lot of people it's like I think they call it

572
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,680
like the eight episode bump. Usually people I want to

573
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,079
start a podcast, they do it, They do about eight

574
00:30:57,119 --> 00:30:59,039
episodes and then they go, eh, you know, I'm gonna

575
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:01,319
take this week off. That's when they start getting a

576
00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:03,559
little live. Then I'm gonna I'm not seeing the I'm

577
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:05,519
gonna do And that's when it starts to go down.

578
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: Hell right, we look at us. We've been doing this forever,

579
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,720
and we rarely take weeks off because that is true consistency.

580
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 4: He takes two weeks off over Christmas, which everybody does,

581
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,920
and other than that, we podcast every week.

582
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:19,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

583
00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:21,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's consistency pretty much.

584
00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I was in Florida and I was outside

585
00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:29,319
of a restaurant and uh, this guy comes up to

586
00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:32,680
me and he goes Lynette, and I go yeah, and

587
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,319
he goes, wife's a big fan loves your podcast.

588
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

589
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,839
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, thanks, And then he was like

590
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,880
and I'm a huge fan of your husbands.

591
00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: And I was like, wow, wow my husband. I have

592
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:55,359
a husband, my husband, I think you mean, yeah, my husband.

593
00:31:57,759 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: Not as funny. Yeah, yeah, that was nice.

594
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,759
Speaker 4: Was that an actual phrase or did you just come

595
00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:05,920
up with that? Okay? I was like, wow, that was

596
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:06,400
very clever.

597
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: That's clever. I like that. I feel like, remember we

598
00:32:10,279 --> 00:32:14,640
had that divorce Kate Anthony on our show. I think

599
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,680
I'm not saying she came up with it. I'm sure

600
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,200
somebody along the way somebody did.

601
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, podcasting, yea, you gotta be consistent. So many

602
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,920
people all the time, like I want to do it.

603
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,200
I'm sure you get it all the time too, right,

604
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,400
Like I want to do a podcast. We should do

605
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,799
a podcast together. I get that all the time. We

606
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:32,799
should do a podcast.

607
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: Let it. We would be great together.

608
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: It would be so funny together. I'm like, no, not, no,

609
00:32:38,519 --> 00:32:39,680
that's not how it works.

610
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:44,759
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have Yeah, so many people, so

611
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:46,799
many should be a podcast. We should do a podcast.

612
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,039
Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to do a podcast. What if

613
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:50,359
I did a podcast with my friend?

614
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: Would you help me?

615
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:53,279
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. But yeah, you

616
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,559
gotta like you gotta be willing to put in tons

617
00:32:56,559 --> 00:32:59,839
of hours and not get paid for a long time,

618
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:01,079
sometimes years.

619
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: And there's so many things that I think people do wrong.

620
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

621
00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:08,319
Speaker 4: Well, the thing about podjects in there is it's so

622
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,759
easy to do it and to get into it. The

623
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:13,839
you know, all you need is a microphone and a

624
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,079
recorder and like an editing software and anybody can make

625
00:33:17,119 --> 00:33:20,200
a podcast. And that's how everyone pretty much started out

626
00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:22,920
way back when, you know, in the early twenty tens.

627
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,480
But now it's gotten to a point where just because

628
00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:30,079
you can do it so easily, doesn't necessarily mean you

629
00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:34,160
should be doing it. Like again, if you don't really

630
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,200
want to do it, and if you're not having fun

631
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,960
while you're doing it, then yeah, it's probably not for you.

632
00:33:40,359 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the audience building is really difficult. But what

633
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:48,799
I don't understand is and because I researched this to

634
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,160
do a sober podcast, I researched. I looked up all

635
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,799
the titles I would to make sure they weren't taken,

636
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,599
you know, the whole thing. I came across so many

637
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,440
podcasts where it was like the graphic were done, there

638
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:04,880
was a trailer and an episode and then never again.

639
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:08,119
What how do you? What the hell do you do

640
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:09,039
all the ramp up?

641
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 4: Right?

642
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: You get your friend, you know, you do this thing together? Yeah,

643
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,760
probably brainstorm, you know, Oh we could do this and

644
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,320
this and this. And I was asking John about this

645
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,480
because I'm like, look at this. These people made an

646
00:34:20,519 --> 00:34:22,920
episode that's like an hour and a half long, and

647
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,519
then Never Again and it came out like twenty twenty

648
00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:29,119
three and then Never Again. And John was like, well,

649
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:32,599
maybe they got did their first episode and then they

650
00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:35,320
got in a fight, right, you know, or it just

651
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,800
they were just like I'm not gonna work. I can't

652
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,599
relate a different person. Yeah yeah, but it's like, okay,

653
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:42,480
but now your podcast episode lives on the internet, like

654
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:45,159
take it down. Then, yeah, it's just so weird. It

655
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:45,719
is weird.

656
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,679
Speaker 4: I can see how people, you know, they go like, hey,

657
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:49,400
we should start a podcast, and you get really into

658
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,159
this idea and then you go, okay, let's do it,

659
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:52,679
and you put everything into it, and then you record

660
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,320
that and then they start realizing, oh, okay, I need

661
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,480
to do this much work. This is how much work

662
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,800
it goes into before the recording, recording it afterwards, and

663
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,480
then they put out ups and they go, you know what, maybe.

664
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,679
Speaker 1: And then they abandoned shit.

665
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:04,679
Speaker 4: I don't want to do it anymore.

666
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: But after one episode, like.

667
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 4: Normally after like like three or five or eight.

668
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,559
Speaker 1: But yeah, right right, you put out and then you're

669
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:15,400
putting it out and then you're like, oh, we're not

670
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,320
going to make a dime off of this, Like what's

671
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,039
the point? I get that, But one episode you've done

672
00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:24,360
all the pre work to come up with your topic,

673
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,239
your title, your artwork. These people have graphics, right like,

674
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,360
and then you're just like, eh, just leave it and

675
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,079
abandon ship.

676
00:35:32,199 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: And how about you just get the name, like, let

677
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,159
somebody else take the name, because you know, there's so

678
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:37,519
many people want the same name.

679
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: Like, oh, somebody else is.

680
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 2: Using it, but that person hasn't done anything with that

681
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,000
name for two years. Yes, give it back, put it

682
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:47,159
back into the universe so somebody else can have it.

683
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 4: I know. Well, yeah, I mean in terms of like

684
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:54,119
social media handles and like websites, that is a thing.

685
00:35:54,159 --> 00:35:56,960
But in terms of podcasts, like there can be four

686
00:35:57,079 --> 00:35:59,400
podcasts with the same name, and if three of them

687
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,280
fizzled out very early, but the fourth one they've been

688
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,760
going for years and they have an audience, then the

689
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,599
search engine optimization will take that open. Like you don't

690
00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:10,159
need to worry about the ones with the same names

691
00:36:10,199 --> 00:36:12,000
that aren't kicking anymore, because.

692
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:14,559
Speaker 1: Like those other for Crying Out Loud show, Yes, yes,

693
00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:19,400
remember when somebody came out with there for Crying Out Loud. Yeah, yeah,

694
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,480
And people were pointing it out to us and we're like,

695
00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:23,639
I don't know, they had like a couple of episodes. Yeah,

696
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,960
but it was like so it was.

697
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 4: So weird, right, Yeah, there's a lot of water coolers

698
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:29,519
out there.

699
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 1: Oh, there are water coolers.

700
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,599
Speaker 2: But yours is the most popular.

701
00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 4: Uh huh, hell yeah, it is, damn right.

702
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: It's so funny. But you don't necessarily if you look

703
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,360
up your show title and there's already four, right, think

704
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,119
of something else.

705
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 4: You know, Well, again, you have to look see if

706
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,880
they're still going. If they're not going, and you plan

707
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,920
to be going for a long time and you really

708
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,079
love that title, you can do it. And if you

709
00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:56,960
start building an audience and people start searching that name,

710
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,679
if you're the one that keeps putting podcasts out there

711
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,320
that people are clicking on, then again, the search engine

712
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,840
optimization will pick that up and it'll put yours first

713
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,599
and get rid of the other ones.

714
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: I remember a long time ago, many years ago, this

715
00:37:11,679 --> 00:37:15,320
girl hit me up to do her podcast about sobriety

716
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,480
and I was like, oh, okay. So I tried to

717
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,800
look it up and I couldn't find the podcast and

718
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,119
it was out like. It wasn't like she was saying, hey,

719
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:28,880
I'm starting a podcast, would you do an episode? No,

720
00:37:29,159 --> 00:37:32,880
she was like, I'm doing this podcast that exists, and

721
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,719
I've had this person on it, and I've had this

722
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,960
person on it. She had Elizabeth Vargas on it. So

723
00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:42,599
I was like, oh, Okay, well this is a reasonable podcast.

724
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,239
I can't find it, right. So I messaged her back

725
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,159
and I'm like, yeah, I'm not seeing your podcast on

726
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:52,840
Apple Podcasts, you know. She's like, oh, yeah, it's not

727
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,559
on Apple yet. So I was like, well, okay, then

728
00:37:57,599 --> 00:37:59,559
you don't know what the fuck you're doing, because like

729
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:02,039
it should already be like she's got number.

730
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,639
Speaker 4: One place that you should be putting your podcast.

731
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,079
Speaker 1: Ninety five percent of our listeners come from Apple podcasts,

732
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:09,199
you know. I'm sure there are a few other are

733
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,039
obviously now and now Spotify's big Spotify wasn't even big

734
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:13,519
at the time.

735
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 4: They're probably like, I think they're like equal at this point.

736
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: At this point, yeah, yeah, but I'm just saying at

737
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,320
that point it wasn't. And then I did finally find

738
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,559
her podcast, and Elizabeth Vargas had done an episode which

739
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:31,519
you can get people to do your podcast, like people

740
00:38:32,199 --> 00:38:33,360
like to tell their stories.

741
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,199
Speaker 2: That's true too.

742
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: So far, everybody I've asked to do it was like great, yes, yeah,

743
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,119
when you know, yeah.

744
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 4: But just having like one or two big celebrities do

745
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,079
your podcast does not mean that like maybe a lot

746
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:48,400
of people will go see that episode. But yeah, I've

747
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,559
learned that it doesn't really move the needle that much

748
00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:53,800
to have like one big guest, right.

749
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: Well, it's like when I listen to Mark Maron's podcast,

750
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,679
which I do from time to time, I'm much prefer

751
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,639
his way lesser known guests that I'm like, oh, this

752
00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:08,159
this side character from a TV show that I've heard

753
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,000
has an interesting story, then like his big name guess,

754
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:14,800
because I'll tell you why. The bigger the name, the

755
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,119
less they're gonna share, the less unfiltered they're going to be.

756
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,280
You know, they're just not they have their already. They're

757
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,039
out there and they're gonna be careful and they're gonna

758
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:28,920
be curating their image, so you're not gonna hear the

759
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:33,360
real dirt exactly. Yeah. Yeah, all right, let's take a

760
00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:38,679
let's take another break. Okay, So anyway I want to

761
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,159
hear the tell tell me more about your trip because

762
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:45,280
it was two weeks long. Okay, so why did you

763
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:45,960
not go on girl?

764
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 3: So the Girl's trip we were supposed to do. We're

765
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:53,239
supposed to go to Phoenix with Wendy's girlfriends. So one morning,

766
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,599
like two days before we were supposed to go, Wendy

767
00:39:56,639 --> 00:39:59,199
gets a call from one of the girls that was

768
00:39:59,199 --> 00:40:02,199
planning the trip. Her father in law was being put

769
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,639
into hospice, so she wasn't going to be able to

770
00:40:04,679 --> 00:40:09,000
make it, so they everybody just kind of canceled because

771
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,159
she was kind of the main one planning it.

772
00:40:11,639 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: But that's safe. She was the go getter.

773
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: But then that same day, Wendy got a call that

774
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:20,519
her kitty cat that she wanted to adopt in California

775
00:40:20,679 --> 00:40:24,639
was going to be ready for adoption if she wanted it. Okay,

776
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,920
then she got the phone call that her sister, her

777
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:34,920
sister's husband, he's a cop and he in some in

778
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,960
the Midwest somewhere. He was at a house and they

779
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,440
were opening up a safe and the safe blew up

780
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,960
and the door hit him and he like his whole fate,

781
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:52,079
like he was all burned, his jaw, his nose broken,

782
00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:57,400
his pelvis broken, lung punctured, like in the hospital. And

783
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,000
she has two kids with him, and so that happened.

784
00:41:01,679 --> 00:41:05,360
So uh So anyway, it was like, Okay, so I

785
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,039
guess we're not going to Phoenix, but now we can

786
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:10,239
go to California. She can see her sister who lives

787
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,000
out here and you know, check in on her. And

788
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:16,960
then pick up this kiddy cat. Right, so we come

789
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,880
so we come to she couldn't find it.

790
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: Like listen yet that I'm not super cat person, but

791
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,840
like it doesn't seem to California to get a cat.

792
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: Because she has a good friend in Chicago that has

793
00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:34,159
this this cat from this lady that breeds these cats.

794
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: They're called rag.

795
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: Doll cats, and she and Wendy loves this cat.

796
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 3: And it's like, does it's not you know it's it's

797
00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:47,239
it's hypo allergenic and all this, it's got good disposition

798
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,840
blah blah blah. Like she's very picky, and she really

799
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,079
she's been talking to this lady for over a year

800
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:55,840
about adopting a cat, and then she was looking at

801
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,960
all these pictures and then she found the cat she

802
00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:00,199
really liked and fell in love with, and the cat

803
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,960
was coming up for adoption. So she was like, I

804
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,400
think this is I think it's meant to be for

805
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,320
me to come to California see my sister. And the

806
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,960
trip was canceled and now the cat is blah blah blah,

807
00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:15,159
and I was like, yeah, come back with me to California.

808
00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:19,159
So she flew back with me. So we drive out

809
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,119
to Barstow to go pick up this cat. On the

810
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:26,320
way to Barstow, she gets a text, so we're with Jackie,

811
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,840
my niece. She gets a text from her her cousin,

812
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:35,280
So Wendy's other sister husband Sal is having a heart

813
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,960
attack and being taken to the hospital.

814
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, to Northiach hospital.

815
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: So that happens. Then Natalia, she's in Cabo. She calls

816
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,960
me because her roommate before she left for Cabo was

817
00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:48,559
really really sick and went home.

818
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: Turns out she had the rotovirus. Now Natalia was like,

819
00:42:53,679 --> 00:42:55,239
I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine.

820
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: That's like a stomach thing. That's a stomach thing that

821
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,800
people get on cruise ships.

822
00:42:59,199 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that she had. So Natalia was like, but Natalia

823
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,400
was like, I'm fine. The morning she leaves, she's not

824
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,280
feeling so great. So now she's in Cabo calling me going,

825
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,840
I'm really sick, mom throwing up, I'm diarrhea, blah blah blah.

826
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:16,119
Speaker 1: And she's in Cabo.

827
00:43:16,519 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: Oh no, and I'm driving to Barstow fielding all these

828
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,039
phone calls like crazy. It would it was like anybody

829
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:25,880
else need to go to the hospital, Like what the

830
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:31,559
fuck is going on. I know, I know, but so anyway,

831
00:43:31,639 --> 00:43:34,000
her brother in law got a couple of stints put

832
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,840
in his heart and he was like thirty percent airflow

833
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,239
was going, our blood flow was available, the rest was

834
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,519
all blockage. Anyway, he's okay, went home, stayed in the

835
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:47,960
hospital for a couple nights in his home. The brother

836
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:50,159
other brother in law that got blown up, is still

837
00:43:50,159 --> 00:43:52,199
in the hospital and has a long road to recovery.

838
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:59,039
Natalia had the rotovirus in Mexico. She went to urgent care.

839
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,199
They gave her like some ivs and some stuff and

840
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:08,320
anti diarrhea stuff, and then she was like crappy for

841
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,039
the first two days. And then she had like two

842
00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:12,880
days of her trip was okay. And then she came

843
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,239
back and and we picked up the rag doll cat

844
00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:19,360
and he's been at my house ever since. And Phil

845
00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:23,039
and they, the two of them are in love. Really,

846
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:24,639
it's the cutest thing.

847
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:31,599
Speaker 2: So now I might need to get a cat.

848
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 1: I know, but use your pretty litter.

849
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 2: Now I can use my exactly exactly.

850
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 3: Oh my god, these two together are so cute. They

851
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,480
they just like hang out like Phil, you know, at

852
00:44:42,519 --> 00:44:45,199
first the cat was like like hissed at him, but

853
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,519
now like the cat is intrigued by him, and every

854
00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:49,199
time he sees Phil walk by, he wants to go

855
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,679
play with him, and he goes. It's just the cutest thing.

856
00:44:51,679 --> 00:44:55,840
I'm never us I would like to go get another cat,

857
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,280
and she will never in a million years. Now She's like,

858
00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:00,679
I'm in love with this kiddie cat. This is exactly

859
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,400
what I wanted. It's got the best personality. It really

860
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,039
does have a great personality. Because I'm not a cat person.

861
00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:09,519
I never was, but now being around this cat, I'm

862
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:11,960
like in love and Phil's in love.

863
00:45:13,039 --> 00:45:17,199
Speaker 1: Well, I think your sister is being selfish just calling

864
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,159
her your sister. I know she's your sister in law,

865
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:22,280
your ex sister in law, but still I.

866
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,039
Speaker 2: Think that she's spoke guarding that cat.

867
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not fair. I know you did a lot

868
00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:30,840
of the work. You went to go you know you're hosting.

869
00:45:32,039 --> 00:45:33,800
You went to go pick up the cat.

870
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean took her to pet Code to go

871
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,760
get all the you know things that the caid kitten needs. Yeah,

872
00:45:41,039 --> 00:45:43,199
I did. I put in my work. So she's still

873
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,920
even researched the cat for So there.

874
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 1: Were you in Florida for the whole two weeks or

875
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,599
you cut that short. No, we were there for I

876
00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:55,679
was there, yeah, two weeks. And now she's been here

877
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:56,280
for a week.

878
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: Been here, yes, since we got back.

879
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:01,079
Speaker 1: Wow.

880
00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 3: And then she was gonna go home over the weekend.

881
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,000
But then she's like, there's something wrong with the kitty

882
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:11,320
cat's ear, and I'm like, the cat's fine. The cat's fine,

883
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,000
you know, like you know, she's like, no, something he's

884
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:17,360
messing with his ear. And then she's like noticed that

885
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,639
it had crusted around its nose. And I'm like, eh,

886
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,360
the cat's fine, and she's like, no, I really want

887
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:23,920
to take him to the vet before we get on

888
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,760
a plane. So I took him to my vet and

889
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,199
sure enough, the cat's got a respiratory infection.

890
00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: Oh how does that happen? I don't know. I don't know.

891
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,679
Speaker 2: And he's fine, he's totally healthy.

892
00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: It's fine.

893
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 2: He just needs eardrops and be on this medication for

894
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,320
like seven days. And she's waiting for the ear to

895
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,039
clear up. So she's going home, I think like a

896
00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:48,639
couple of days from now. So she's just gonna put

897
00:46:48,639 --> 00:46:51,039
the kitty in like a carrier. Yeah, she already bought

898
00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:54,840
the carrier and everything. Yeah, but it's been so nice

899
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,360
having that cat at my house.

900
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: Do people still put their dogs or cats in cargo?

901
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:01,920
I've always been That's.

902
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,519
Speaker 3: How I got Mollie when Wendy found Molly. Wendy was

903
00:47:06,559 --> 00:47:10,360
the one that found Molly. Adopted Molly in Chicago for

904
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:13,239
my nieces and nephews, and they were young at the

905
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,519
time and they didn't take care of the dog. And

906
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:19,519
I was moving into this new house with Adam before

907
00:47:19,559 --> 00:47:22,679
we had kids, and Wendy was like, this dog is

908
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,719
a yellow Lab, deserves the best family, and Adam and

909
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,880
I really wanted a yellow Lab, and so she brought

910
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,960
him to California, but she put him in cargo. He

911
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:34,840
was she was in cargo, and that's how she got

912
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:35,239
to us.

913
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,559
Speaker 1: How did they like, what if you're on a cross

914
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:39,760
country flight? Though, then the dog just is in a

915
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,079
crate for all those hours and then they let them.

916
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:44,880
Molly was in the crate.

917
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:47,599
Speaker 3: No, and she when she got to lax she had

918
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,480
shit all over her because she shipped in the crate,

919
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,239
probably because she was scared. But I didn't know Molly

920
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:55,960
at the time, like, yeah, bring her, I don't care

921
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,119
how you get her here, but yeah, bring her. Then

922
00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:00,320
I get to then I love Molly, and I was like,

923
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,639
oh my god, it would never put Molly in the undercar,

924
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,119
in the in the plane with the luggage.

925
00:48:06,159 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: Fuck that. Yeah, but they do have to do that

926
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,360
because you know, when they rescue dogs from places, they

927
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,119
have to fly them. Yeah, they put maybe they put

928
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:19,760
them in specially special flights for dogs where they actually care.

929
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:24,840
Yeah them. And yeah, I don't know, but I follow

930
00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:29,920
so many freaking dog accounts too. Yeah, just because the algorithm,

931
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,519
you know, al knows what I like. So whenever I'm

932
00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:34,960
on Facebook and I hit the reels, it's all like

933
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,320
it's either dogs being reunited with their owners after they

934
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,800
have it, you know, they got lost and now they're reunited.

935
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,480
I cry every day. I just scroll and tear up

936
00:48:44,599 --> 00:48:50,599
and just go look at then. And sometimes sometimes you'll

937
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:52,960
see one though, and it'll be like, look what happened?

938
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,960
Like these they haven't seen their dog in a year.

939
00:48:55,039 --> 00:48:58,440
The dog was lost and now it's back. And you're like, well,

940
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,719
it didn't really seem like they recognize the person that much,

941
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,920
you know, And then people start arguing in the comments

942
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,039
because you're yeah, because you're like, well, yeah, it wagged

943
00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:09,400
its tail, but it also seems like it like people

944
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,559
wags your tail for anybody, like you come up to

945
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:14,159
her on the street, She's gonna ask you like you

946
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,119
know yeah, and you're like, it doesn't seem like this

947
00:49:17,159 --> 00:49:20,880
dog fully recognizes these people. But then if somebody will

948
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,840
be in the comments going that didn't seem like a

949
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,119
big reaction, and then other people will be like, you

950
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,960
don't know dogs, like that is a big reaction, and

951
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,199
you're like, I kind.

952
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 2: Of agree with that person, you know, yeah, but you know.

953
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,039
Speaker 1: You see the ones though, where the person sees the

954
00:49:36,039 --> 00:49:38,880
dog and the dog just goes freaking crazy and like

955
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,360
jumping in their lap and spinning around in circles. Yeah,

956
00:49:42,599 --> 00:49:43,960
so sweet. It is sweet.

957
00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 3: And sometimes I want to be greeted like that from Phil.

958
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,800
Sometimes Phil like I'll miss me, you know. But when

959
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,840
Sonny comes home. Phil loves to see Sonny. He gets

960
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,840
excited to see Sonny son He plays with him and stuff.

961
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah.

962
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 2: But you feed him well yeah, walk him yeah, yeah,

963
00:50:03,559 --> 00:50:04,239
I take care of it.

964
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:05,559
Speaker 1: Sonny used to walk him too.

965
00:50:06,119 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: Sonny used to walk him, Sonny plays with him. I

966
00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:11,000
don't know, they have like a little bond. Gets excited

967
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,239
to see Sonny Natalia. She'll walk in go fil and he'll.

968
00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 2: Just like lay there, you know, like flop his tail

969
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,360
on the ground, but doesn't lift his head up. He

970
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,000
just goes blump, plump, plump.

971
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, Peopo's just so old now like she used to.

972
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,039
I think about all the things that she did when

973
00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:32,599
she was younger, like snarl at the mailman, and you know,

974
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,760
I think back fondly. She's deaf now, so she doesn't

975
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,000
know when the mail comes ever. But now she I've

976
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,159
told you this, but she barks at us. But that's

977
00:50:42,199 --> 00:50:44,719
because she's sundowning and doesn't know what's going on. So

978
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,960
she start barking at us for no reason, really loud,

979
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,800
like louder barks than she used to do for the mailman.

980
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:57,320
She's just like alert barks like wow, and you're like, oh, okay,

981
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,119
we don't know what she wants. But other than that,

982
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,800
she doesn't She doesn't hear us come in, so if

983
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:08,280
we're all out, she doesn't come and greet us. Oh, oh,

984
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,920
it's sad. She just mostly sleeps.

985
00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:15,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh sad.

986
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: Well, I don't you know. It's not like I hate cats,

987
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:27,159
but I don't know. It's just not like the same.

988
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,519
I could see if I had a dog, that's not

989
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:30,639
like the cat.

990
00:51:30,639 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 2: Right right, Well, that's how I always felt. Well, I

991
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:39,639
used to say, if best cat's a flat cat when

992
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,719
I was younger, well, because cats used to they freaked

993
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,400
me out. They scared me when I was a kid.

994
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 1: Same.

995
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they would cry in front of my bedroom window

996
00:51:49,559 --> 00:51:52,880
and it sounded like a baby being murdered. And I

997
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,400
was always I was like seven years old, and I

998
00:51:55,519 --> 00:51:57,320
was like, didn't know what it was for a while,

999
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,719
and then I don't know, I just did not the

1000
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,039
cat that creeped me out.

1001
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to sleep over when I was in

1002
00:52:05,519 --> 00:52:07,880
middle school. I had this best friend who lived across

1003
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,519
the street from me, and they had like two or

1004
00:52:09,519 --> 00:52:14,039
three cats, I don't remember, and her cat would always

1005
00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:17,320
want to sleep on top of my head and I

1006
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,119
hated it, uh huh. And every time I slept because

1007
00:52:20,159 --> 00:52:22,719
I think it knew I didn't like it. I don't

1008
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,440
know which one it was, maybe both, but I would

1009
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,039
wake up and there'd be like a cat on my face,

1010
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,199
like maybe trying to kill me, right, trying to suffocate,

1011
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,239
trying to take you out.

1012
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 2: Maybe trying to And then they do this thing where

1013
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,440
they purr. They go and it's like.

1014
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 3: I just didn't But now I'm fine with cats, and

1015
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,519
I really love this cat. I'm really getting and this

1016
00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:49,119
cat's not a weirdo. Like he'll come and he'll hang

1017
00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:50,880
out with you, and they'll hang out with the next

1018
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,800
person on the couch and he comes and he just

1019
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,960
sits with you, and then he wants to go play

1020
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,960
with Phil and then he comes back like he's not

1021
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,840
one of these weirdos that like, you know, doesn't want

1022
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:00,639
to be touched and.

1023
00:53:00,639 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: Takes off in the renail. Right, not skittish right that way.

1024
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:09,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, My sister in law was always a cat person,

1025
00:53:10,039 --> 00:53:12,480
but the cats would always be just under her bed

1026
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,480
the whole time. I'm okay, what's the point. So then

1027
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,840
you're buying them food and I guess cat toys, and

1028
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,559
then but they never they don't want to ever talk

1029
00:53:21,559 --> 00:53:25,000
to anybody or socialize at all. Right, well what's the point.

1030
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:26,760
And then she'd be like, well they come over when

1031
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,000
they're when we're it's just us in the house, okay,

1032
00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:33,679
so then and do what like? And then what? Right?

1033
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:38,280
But I think, well that's no fun. Yeah, I don't know.

1034
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,079
What do you think? Kaylin? Are you a cat person.

1035
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 4: I was always more of a dog person. But then

1036
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,599
my mom got two cats. I think they were rag

1037
00:53:47,639 --> 00:53:49,719
doll cats. I think she likes rag doll cats too.

1038
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,440
And that's back when I was living in you know,

1039
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:55,079
the house I grew up in, and uh, I was like, okay,

1040
00:53:55,159 --> 00:53:57,920
well whatever, these cats they're fine, but I'm not. And

1041
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,320
but one of them we bonded the two of us,

1042
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,199
so it kind of like became my cat. So then

1043
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,400
she would always come into my room and lay on

1044
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,639
my bed and then yeah, and then I kind of

1045
00:54:06,639 --> 00:54:08,559
fell in love with that cat. But then she moved

1046
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,880
to England and took the cats with her, so that

1047
00:54:12,159 --> 00:54:13,760
I was a little sad about that, but yeah, I

1048
00:54:14,119 --> 00:54:16,800
did very much enjoy having that cat around when I did.

1049
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't know, we'll see.

1050
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:25,199
Speaker 1: Okay, well listen, let's say hi to our friends. We

1051
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:30,599
got Dick frolicking and Kelly, oh, letty not. Katie's still

1052
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,519
rolling on e She went to a rave, which Helbie

1053
00:54:33,519 --> 00:54:36,320
went to a rave this weekend, so maybe they were together. Nikki,

1054
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,519
call your girl, Elizabeth. You got enough kids, stop already.

1055
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,039
But Rita's here with her bass yet to help you. Polly.

1056
00:54:44,119 --> 00:54:48,920
We love your pancakes. Valerie, Bubba Fenwick, who Katerina you

1057
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,920
know check it. Don't be like me, Missy and Gabby.

1058
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 2: I saw them in Florida.

1059
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:03,119
Speaker 1: E Sean Voshpe, Rebecca Lubrin, We love you, Rebecca, Kelly Brandt,

1060
00:55:03,199 --> 00:55:07,079
she's your aunt, Alicia Escalante, Leslie with the coffee, Aaron's

1061
00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:09,760
a dirty Sanchez, Jennifer, get up, Sandra, it's not easy

1062
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,639
being green. Athena. We love your dancing and your makeup.

1063
00:55:12,639 --> 00:55:15,880
And Stephanie, you're still a stinker rinker. Also, our friend

1064
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,199
Christa is giving her shout out to her friend Sarah

1065
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,719
who lost her son Chase to suicide and now she

1066
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,000
wants to break the stigma surrounding suicide and fill the

1067
00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:30,679
gaps in her community in Ohio. So go to the

1068
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:37,079
Chase Hayleyproject dot com. Also, act Test is coming up

1069
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probably pretty fast, so go to our friend Laurie Bishop's

1070
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sons Instagram page, which is better dot test dot prep

1071
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all lowercase I think Instagram. Also, my friend has a

1072
00:55:55,039 --> 00:56:01,000
column on medium dot com called Unbecoming Stories. Check them out.

1073
00:56:01,679 --> 00:56:05,199
Also The Family Skeptical. It's a podcast about raising kids

1074
00:56:05,199 --> 00:56:07,920
without religion. If you're any if you're a non believer,

1075
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whatever you know, do it. Check them out The Family Skeptical, Willmanfrida,

1076
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Pop Springs or pomp Desert two locations for the price

1077
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of one go get you some brunch. They have really

1078
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good food. If you're looking for a mousepad, these make

1079
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great gifts. If you got a funny idea, send it

1080
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to Basic Becky. Send it to our friend Becky and

1081
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put it on a mouse pad, put it on a mug,

1082
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put it on a T shirt, anything you can think of.

1083
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Go to just Basicbeky dot com. Also, if you're in Hawaii,

1084
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on the island of Kawaii, you can shop in person

1085
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at Sugar Skull, But if you're not there, you can

1086
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go to their website sugar Skull eight oh eight dot

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1088
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these days, why not use our friend Christine Black at

1089
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Waves and Wonder Travel. Her face book is Christine Concierge

1090
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Travel Planner. Our friend Sergio is a lot of pet

1091
00:57:08,039 --> 00:57:11,119
talk today. Why not get inspired and give some money

1092
00:57:11,119 --> 00:57:15,920
to the ASPCA. Also, why not try to save our

1093
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,719
democracy if you can, or help people's rights and give

1094
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,800
some money. Uh. Jacob Crowley is giving his shout, paying

1095
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for a shout every month for the A C l U.

1096
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: Thank you, ol Jacob.

1097
00:57:27,679 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: I give them money every month myself and every week.

1098
00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:34,840
Adam Lerner, he's a car broker. He's gotten so many

1099
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,760
people cars from fc O L. Just go on our

1100
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,960
Facebook page and say hey, who's gotten a car from

1101
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,360
Adam and people will tell you their good experience. Go

1102
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:48,880
to Adam's Got a Car dot com. And Oscar has

1103
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:54,280
the Queer Youth Resource Center. Okay, it's in Vancouver, Washington.

1104
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,199
They've lost a lot of resources and they need our help.

1105
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Q y r C Vancouver, w A dot org. All right,

1106
00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:09,519
all right, of them all, DOCTE, thank you everybody. Thank you, Kaylin,

1107
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,679
thank you. Your parents. Don't open up.

1108
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,199
Speaker 2: It's letinging. Go