WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.439 Welcome to Primetime Crime. I'm your host, Kylie. Let's talk 2 00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:05.839 right now in true crime, and then together we're going 3 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:09.800 to work on warming up some cold cases. Let's go. Hey, guys, 4 00:00:09.839 --> 00:00:12.960 welcome to this week's episode of Primetime Crime. It's Kylie. 5 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:15.199 We're going to get into a little right now in 6 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:17.920 true crime, and then this week I have a guest 7 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:21.399 episode from my friends over at the Unsolved Couple, Ben 8 00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:25.719 and Sierra. They have an amazing podcast. They do unsolved 9 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:30.760 mysteries rewatches, recaps, and then give you the updates, which, 10 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:33.280 if you're like me, you need updates on some of 11 00:00:33.280 --> 00:00:35.799 these cases that were covered so long ago. So Ben 12 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:39.079 and Sierra do an amazing job, and they are helping 13 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:41.679 me out this week by giving me an episode. I 14 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:45.640 am going to be having a new episode released next 15 00:00:45.679 --> 00:00:48.880 week in honor of Crime con Vegas. I am working 16 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:51.840 on that right now, and then the following week I'm 17 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:55.399 going to have another guest episode coming your way. Thank you, 18 00:00:55.439 --> 00:00:59.280 guys for all of the support and everything and bearing 19 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:02.079 with me this time when I am kind of semi 20 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:04.400 taking a step back, but I did want to go 21 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:06.439 over a little right now in true crime because we 22 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:09.840 do have a few things that I've been following to 23 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:13.719 go over. So I talked about how they were supposed 24 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:17.159 to be starting the murder trial for Amber s Bradlin 25 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:22.280 and that has officially been postponed. Now, originally they were 26 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:26.760 going to be starting the trial in May. Doctor Michael McKinney, 27 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:30.599 m K McKinney, and Josh Mullins are charged in connection 28 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:34.519 with Amber's murder. And honestly, I'm glad that the judge 29 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:37.319 said that they were going to postpone it. The prosecution 30 00:01:37.560 --> 00:01:41.400 asked for them to delay the trial because this case 31 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:46.319 is mostly forensics and the Kentucky State Crime Lab is 32 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:50.120 apparently backed up, and they are in the process of 33 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:54.159 testing all of this evidence. And they have one hundred 34 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:56.879 and forty five items that they have submitted, and this 35 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:01.159 doesn't include the electronics submissions for Amber's k and that 36 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:05.439 is a lot of evidence, and according to the lab, 37 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:08.919 this is more than they're capable of testing at one time. 38 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:12.599 So there's a lot that goes into testing all of 39 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:16.199 this evidence, and they just basically need more time to test. 40 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:19.240 And like I said, I'm glad that they decided to 41 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:22.360 delay because the last thing we want is for this 42 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:24.560 to go to trial. Without all of the evidence they 43 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:29.439 need in place and tested, and then Michael and MKA 44 00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:33.080 and Josh getting acquitted because they don't have the evidence 45 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:36.120 they need to prove their case. So, as of right now, 46 00:02:36.199 --> 00:02:40.319 the trial is delayed until January of twenty twenty seven. Again, 47 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:44.000 that could change, but at least that gives the Kentucky 48 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:47.360 State Crime Lab the rest of this year to finish 49 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:52.000 the testing and then the prosecution time to get everything 50 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:55.240 together that they need to prove their case. Although we 51 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:58.400 are also anxious to get justice for Amber Scradlin, I 52 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:00.240 do think they have to go about the things the 53 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:04.000 right way in order to obtain that justice, especially given 54 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:08.159 who is on trial here. Michael McKinney is a very 55 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:11.919 prominent and well known dentist in the area and his 56 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:17.000 son is basically on trial for the murder of Amber. 57 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:21.240 And then Michael McKinney and Josh Mullens, who is a 58 00:03:21.240 --> 00:03:25.560 family friend, are also charged in connection with Amber's death, 59 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:28.360 the cover up, the cleanup, so on and so forth. 60 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:30.759 So I'm gonna be sure to keep you guys updated 61 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:35.120 on anything else that transpires there. And now we're moving 62 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:39.120 in to murder on News as we know his murder 63 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:43.919 conviction was officially overturned, which we're not really surprised about. 64 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:48.000 And it now came out that he is suing the 65 00:03:48.039 --> 00:03:51.840 former clerk of court, Becky Hill, that served during his 66 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:54.879 murder trial, and he is alleging that she denied him 67 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:59.360 a fair trial before an impartial jury. And there was 68 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:05.120 a press comp about this lawsuit and everything, and I 69 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:07.719 can't say I'm surprised. I feel like we all knew 70 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:10.199 that this was going to happen. And there's a lot 71 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:13.199 of talk that his trial is going to have to 72 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:17.759 be moved elsewhere because how can you get a impartial 73 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:23.120 jury when this has been the longest, most ongoing saga 74 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:25.600 of them all. So I'll be sure to keep you 75 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:28.879 guys updated on that, on his lawsuit against Becky Hill, 76 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:33.000 and anything else that happens in the Murdas saga. It 77 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:38.160 has been a very interesting turn of events. I don't 78 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:40.959 really think anybody is surprised by all of this, given 79 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:44.519 all that came out against Becky Hill. But now we 80 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:47.759 have to go through the whole trial all over again, 81 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:51.920 and it shall be interesting just like the first time around. 82 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:54.720 So my favorite type of updates are ones where I 83 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:57.680 can tell you guys that a cold case now has 84 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:02.319 movement and has been a f solved. So they have 85 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:06.240 arrested a man in a nineteen eighty six cold case 86 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:10.240 sexual assault murder in Virginia Beach, so Twenty two year 87 00:05:10.279 --> 00:05:14.920 old Roberto Walls was found on May fifteenth of nineteen 88 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:19.920 eighty six behind a elementary school in a field. Roberta 89 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:22.839 was a loving daughter, a big sister, and a friend 90 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:26.800 to those who knew her, and is described as somebody 91 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:29.720 that could be counted on in her circle of friends. 92 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:33.839 So despite there being physical evidence, her murder was investigated 93 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:38.519 for basically the last four decades with no answers. In 94 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:41.439 two thousand and one, they were able to develop a 95 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:45.720 male DNA profile and it was entered into the National 96 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:50.240 DNA data Bank, but there was unfortunately no match. Over 97 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:54.279 the course of the investigation, they had DNA from thirty 98 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:57.000 different potential suspects that were all matched back to this 99 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:01.519 DNA and there was no match. T three, the Virginia 100 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:05.319 Beach Police Department was able to receive grant funding that 101 00:06:05.639 --> 00:06:11.199 allowed investigators to pursue the route of forensic genealogy leads 102 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:16.120 and they were able to identify a possible suspect who 103 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:19.519 had strong ties to the area during the time period 104 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:23.079 that Roberto was killed, and they were able to do 105 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:27.439 a DNA a direct DNA comparison that identified a man 106 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:30.600 named Charles Berry as the source of the DNA profile. 107 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:35.519 Investigators discovered that Charles Berry, who is now sixty six 108 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:40.079 years old and living in Newington, Connecticut, was in the 109 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:43.720 US Navy during the time of Roberto's murder and he 110 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:47.759 was stationed in the Virginia Beach area. Charles Berry did 111 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:51.240 not know Roberta Walls before the murder, and police said 112 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:54.639 that he was never on their radar at all. He 113 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:58.079 has been arrested and charged with rape and capital murder 114 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:01.800 in the commission of a rape. Virginia Beach Police Department 115 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:05.160 gave an interview to abcnews dot Com and they are 116 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:08.680 quoted as saying, this breakthrough stands as a powerful testament 117 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:12.279 to the relentless persistence of our detectives who refused to 118 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:15.680 let Roberta be forgotten. We hope this closure brings a 119 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:17.879 measure of peace to the Walls family and sends a 120 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:21.240 clear message, no matter how much time passes, we will 121 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:24.800 never stop searching for the truth. Charles Berry, like I said, 122 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:28.240 has been arrested in Connecticut, and at this point it's 123 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:31.720 unclear whether or not he has retained an attorney. But 124 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:34.920 this one is going to be developing, and it is 125 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:38.160 just a testament to the fact that time is running 126 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:41.000 out for these predators and these perpetrators who committed these 127 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:44.120 crimes decades ago. I don't know much about his past, 128 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:47.560 but it is very probable that he went on with 129 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:49.519 his life and he was able to lead a very 130 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:53.360 productive and normal life and basically blend into society with 131 00:07:53.480 --> 00:07:57.279 this secret looming that he committed this horrific murder forty 132 00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:00.839 years ago. But his time is up and he is 133 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:05.360 now officially behind bars, and Robertus case is in the 134 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:08.319 process of being closed. So there's any more developments in 135 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:10.160 this one, I'll be sure to bring it to you, guys, 136 00:08:10.560 --> 00:08:13.199 but we are gonna go ahead and get into this 137 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:16.560 week's episode with Ben and Sierra from Unsolved Couple. 138 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:20.319 I'm Keana, and I leveled up my business with Shopify. 139 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:24.079 Once I figured out that Shopify was a thing, I 140 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:26.680 never turned back. I can create a site with my 141 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:30.759 eyes closed. 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Have you ever 164 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:44.039 been booped on the nose by somebody? What if a 165 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:46.960 stranger walked up to you and booped you one of those? 166 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:49.360 I feel like it could go one or two ways, 167 00:09:49.799 --> 00:09:53.759 it depends. That's yeah. They'd have to be really good 168 00:09:53.759 --> 00:09:54.679 at reading the room. 169 00:09:55.720 --> 00:09:57.639 I think I would probably laugh. 170 00:09:59.039 --> 00:10:03.360 I love that would be so funny to be the 171 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:09.200 person that goes up to strangers and just goes. 172 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:12.360 I wouldn't do it because you just that I don't 173 00:10:12.360 --> 00:10:14.559 trust strangers, but I love a good joke. 174 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:15.000 You do. 175 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:18.360 So I'm here for if someone came Probably if someone 176 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:20.320 came up and did that to me, I would laugh. 177 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:20.960 Yeah. 178 00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:24.759 For obviously, I think everyone would like first happen. I 179 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:27.360 think a lot of people like what that caught off? 180 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:29.399 Does happened on your face? Yeah? Of course? 181 00:10:29.639 --> 00:10:35.159 Yeah? But yeah, all right, well we're back another week, 182 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:41.840 another episode. I'd probably laugh, yeah, or I'd boop them 183 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:44.600 back because I bet they wouldn't be expecting that and 184 00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:51.200 it would be a double booping. Yeah. All right, Well 185 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:55.919 what are we shitty chatting about today? Season four, episode 186 00:10:56.360 --> 00:11:02.320 Night Team, one Night mm hmmm. A couple quick housekeeping notes. 187 00:11:02.679 --> 00:11:07.639 First off, later this week, I'm going to be dropping 188 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:14.000 in to our listener feed a new podcast called Secrets 189 00:11:14.080 --> 00:11:17.960 Beyond the Sacramento River. It's by two good friends of mine, 190 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:22.240 Jules and Jen. There investigative podcasters. 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All right, Ready 210 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:33.000 to dive in. 211 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:34.039 Yes, ma'am? 212 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:36.879 Okay, three stories? 213 00:12:36.919 --> 00:12:38.759 So me you me? 214 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:41.840 Yeah, because I only have one, you only have one. 215 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:45.279 I'll start with our lost love story. Yeah, we've got 216 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:48.759 a lost love for us and I have some mess 217 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:51.279 for you, but I have a lot of questions about 218 00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:52.320 this one as well. 219 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:55.440 So just while I'm. 220 00:12:55.320 --> 00:13:00.159 Telling this story, and we'll try to unpack a few things. Okay, 221 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:05.639 So we're we're dialing back the time frame to the 222 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:10.480 nineteen thirties and the United States is just kind of 223 00:13:10.519 --> 00:13:15.799 starting to pull out of the Great Depression. So because 224 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:17.799 it ended in nineteen I guess nineteen forty two, it 225 00:13:17.919 --> 00:13:20.559 lasted just over a decade. But for many, the cost 226 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:23.159 of this is from Robert Zek the personal treaty that 227 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:27.960 would continue for a lifetime. Such was the case for 228 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:33.200 a young girl and her older brother who lived in Hillsdale, Texas, 229 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:39.120 and in nineteen forty one, Barney Dewey was twelve years old, 230 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:46.759 but was already the main male of the home even 231 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:49.080 at the age of twelve, he worked part time at 232 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:52.840 a gas station. While at the gas station working he 233 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:57.360 took care of his eight year old sister, Angeline. So 234 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:00.919 in the reenactment, she's literally like a play in the dirt, 235 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:05.000 and he's like attending the cars that come through the 236 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:09.639 gas station. It was just this was a very different time. 237 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:12.399 And it's a different world. 238 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:18.360 It's a world that I cannot even understand experienced their 239 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:22.159 stepfather at the time. I've got no more information on this. 240 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:25.360 I tried to find it was hospitalized, I don't know 241 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:29.679 for how long or for what. And their mother, Lucy, 242 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:35.279 was basically working long hours as a garment worker. I'm 243 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:38.559 gonna guess being paid next to nothing in a terrible 244 00:14:38.600 --> 00:14:41.600 factory somewhere, because I've listened to a few podcasts about 245 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:46.279 like working conditions at the time. In these factories, it 246 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:49.240 was awful, and women were even paid less than the 247 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:55.440 men garment workers because they were females and it was 248 00:14:55.600 --> 00:14:59.039 just like hot. Yeah, I mean, that's a different podcast 249 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:02.799 for a different day. So this young boy recalls that 250 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:07.679 wild times were hard and the family was constantly concerned 251 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:10.200 with just trying to keep what he called quote, body 252 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:13.000 and soul together, which I thought was a term I 253 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:17.720 hadn't really ever heard. They were trying to make ends 254 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:24.000 meet and just basically keep themselves alive. And his mom 255 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:26.919 could read and write but didn't have a major education. Like, 256 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:29.440 they're just trying to keep their head above water. But 257 00:15:29.840 --> 00:15:31.480 at the end of the day, this is a very 258 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:36.000 bleak existence. But Barney and his family managed to scrape 259 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:40.480 by and stay together until one day of the spring 260 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:44.279 of nineteen forty one, when he and Angelie had a visitor, 261 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:50.240 a quote kindly old man named Reverend Nicholas. Reverend Nicholas 262 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:52.799 introduced himself to Barney and claimed that he was a 263 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:56.159 friend of Lucy's. It was their mother, and told Barney 264 00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:59.039 that she was sick and that she wanted him and 265 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:02.720 Angeline to go stay with him at his home in Albanin. 266 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:05.759 Barney figured that they would do so and she would 267 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:09.360 come and get them after she was recovered. As Barney 268 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:12.879 put it, quote he could quote he could quiet our 269 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:15.799 fears with a few words and a piece of candy 270 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:19.879 of what she was known to always carry in his pocket. 271 00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:22.399 It literally seems to be the origin story of like 272 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:26.679 don't get into the car with the stranger with candy. 273 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:29.039 Yeah, I think that came after this. 274 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:34.519 I so Reverend Nicholas took the two children to a 275 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:35.679 fancy hotel. 276 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:41.559 Let's just get this stranger. There's no way this man 277 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:44.879 was a reverend. He was there was no way he 278 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:45.639 was following. 279 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:50.679 But I know, and here's unfortunately, this is going to 280 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:53.799 get worse, and it's not going to get worse. Per 281 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:56.799 Unsolved mysteries, and I'll tell you what. Even to this day, 282 00:16:57.799 --> 00:17:01.240 this man is considered a man of ear within this community. 283 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:05.400 I don't think people have looked into this like you 284 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:09.920 and I did. So Reverend Nicholas takes the two children 285 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:12.799 to a fancy hotel. Oh, sorry to keep going back 286 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:16.640 from the picture of this man during this timeframe, he 287 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:21.920 was dressed in the most luxurious clothing I've seen. This 288 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:24.839 wasn't just like a man that was We've seen in 289 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:27.160 a couple of other the great depression stories that was 290 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:31.519 like able to kind of get through and even be comfortable. 291 00:17:31.599 --> 00:17:35.839 This man was living in the lap of luxury among 292 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:40.799 people who were starving and barely able to feed their children. 293 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:44.079 And he was doing it whilst telling people he was 294 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:48.359 a man of God. So just sorry, I didn't want 295 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:51.640 my personal things to get into this, but clearly you 296 00:17:51.640 --> 00:17:57.680 guys are hearing. So he takes them and gets them 297 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:03.240 both fancy, beautiful new outfits, feeds them a scrumptious dinner. 298 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:05.960 I tried to look no word on what the dinner was, 299 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:08.319 and the next day all dre just up in their 300 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:13.559 new clothed, cleaned and filled belly's full. He takes photographs 301 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:18.119 of them, which again was like a luxury at the time. 302 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:21.799 Barney tells them that something had happened to Lucy and 303 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:24.279 that they were unable to see her and him and 304 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:28.440 him and Angeline were taken by Reverend Nicholas to a 305 00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:33.079 bus station. Then at this point Nicholas says, like, where 306 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:36.599 are we going or not Nicholas, sorry, excuse me. Barney 307 00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:39.039 asks him where are we going? And Reverend Nicholas tells them, 308 00:18:39.079 --> 00:18:41.400 you guys are going to just go on a little trip, 309 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:45.279 but not to worry and everything would be okay. Dooking, 310 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:48.119 So as Barney and Angeline got into the bus, she 311 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:52.279 starts to cry she's what eight at the time, saying 312 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:54.279 that she doesn't want to go she misses her mother, 313 00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:57.279 and Reverend Nicholas tried to calm her down, saying that 314 00:18:57.319 --> 00:18:59.799 they were going to be meeting up with Lucy once 315 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:03.559 they got off the bus. And every time they questioned 316 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:06.839 or objected to anything, wherever Nicholas would soothe their feelings 317 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:10.839 and said, everything is going to be all right. These 318 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:13.240 two sweet children trusted him and believed them that they 319 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:16.440 were going to be seeing their mother at the end 320 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:20.960 of this bus ride, and that's that's where their end 321 00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:25.920 destination was. However, later that day, Barney and Angelina arrived 322 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:28.440 with Reverend Nicholas at a Foster home. 323 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:32.920 When it's time to scale your business, it's time for Shopify. 324 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:35.359 Get everything you need to grow the way. 325 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:38.480 You want, like all the way, the way the way, 326 00:19:40.039 --> 00:19:42.960 stack more sales with the best converting checkout on the planet, 327 00:19:43.759 --> 00:19:46.920 Track your chichains from every channel, ride in one spot, 328 00:19:47.279 --> 00:19:50.759 and turn real time reporting into big time opportunities. 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As they left, she yelled 349 00:21:01.039 --> 00:21:04.160 to Barney, you promised me you were going to find 350 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:07.400 our mom, but there was nothing that the sweet boy 351 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:12.000 could do. Only later did Barney understand that the fancy 352 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:15.319 new clothes and the photograph had been used as an 353 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:23.759 advertisement to show prospective foster parents. So get this. Barney 354 00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:28.079 is sent to live on a hundred acre ranch outside 355 00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:33.599 of albernine, Texas. And this man is a better human 356 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:38.119 than I am. Because Barney's interviewed on Unsolved Mysteries. He's 357 00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:39.640 the one looking for his sister. 358 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:42.599 Yeah, he's the one that brought this time mysteries. 359 00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:49.519 I don't know if it's just goodness in this man, 360 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:53.960 but he talks highly of his foster parents, and I'm 361 00:21:53.960 --> 00:21:58.079 going to tell you what he said. So first off, 362 00:21:58.359 --> 00:22:01.559 we find out that his foster parents are none other 363 00:22:01.640 --> 00:22:06.000 than Reverend Nicholas's secretary. So a woman who claims to 364 00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:10.160 be like a paid employee of whatever church these people 365 00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:14.000 are a part of. This is the secretary of the 366 00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:19.839 church and her husband, who conveniently at the same time, 367 00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:23.720 were in desperate need of a ranchan. So this woman 368 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:27.559 during the Great Depression owns a hundred acres. 369 00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:31.319 This is during this is the forties. 370 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:36.079 Now we're out of the depression, yeah, just coming out 371 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:36.440 of it, and. 372 00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:40.240 She's working as a secretary. It has one hundred acres 373 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:43.640 and is in need of a ranch hand. That is umbrella. 374 00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:47.960 Umbrella like disguised as I'm going to be a good 375 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:50.039 person and foster a child. 376 00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:54.599 It gets better as we learned they weren't really foster parents. 377 00:22:54.880 --> 00:23:02.519 So Barney tells us, yes, that he was really happy 378 00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:06.119 because he was given responsibility. He was responsible for driving 379 00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:10.759 the tractor, plowing, doing all of the chores on the 380 00:23:10.839 --> 00:23:14.640 ranch to keep the animals fed and cared for. He 381 00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:18.400 enjoyed this immensely because he felt like he was in charge, 382 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:21.359 like he had he had a purpose, he was doing something. 383 00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:24.960 He had his own horse, and could do whatever he 384 00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:30.920 wanted to on his ranch. Because you guys, he lived 385 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:36.960 in a separate home. These human garbage bags could not 386 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:41.440 even bother to let this twelve year old boy that 387 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:44.759 they had ripped away from not only his parents but 388 00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:48.039 his sister live in there under their roof. 389 00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:50.440 Well, that's what I'm saying. They didn't. 390 00:23:50.680 --> 00:23:54.039 They weren't foster. They just they took this kid in 391 00:23:54.119 --> 00:23:57.480 as an employee, unpaid free. 392 00:23:57.599 --> 00:24:00.559 This is what we call like in and he's an 393 00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:05.119 indentured servant. Yeah, and they give him a horse. They 394 00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:11.319 make him response. This is hard. Plowing and feeding and 395 00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:17.640 carrying of animals night and day is intense labor. And 396 00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:19.400 I'm sure there's a part of this kid, who for 397 00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:21.240 the first time in his life had a roof over 398 00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:25.519 his head and probably food in his belly, was struggling 399 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:28.880 with this sort of give and take. So he tells 400 00:24:28.960 --> 00:24:35.559 us he does start to feel lonely because his existence 401 00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:38.519 on this farm or this ranch was a solitary one 402 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:44.119 because he was forced to live eight miles and this 403 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:49.240 is eight miles back in the day, away from the 404 00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:50.839 main ranch house. 405 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:54.680 It's just crazy because one hundred acres. 406 00:24:54.359 --> 00:24:58.920 Is not exactly He wasn't living on property. So either 407 00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:03.200 he's had a horse, so he had to either She. 408 00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:08.079 Was living on the hundred acres because like, like my 409 00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:13.160 grandfather was a rancher. He was a yeah, I mean 410 00:25:13.200 --> 00:25:16.720 he was a rancher, had dairy cows. 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And here's the thing. 446 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:49.039 Obviously this was a very long time ago, and I'm 447 00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:52.359 I'm getting stuck on the wrong thing. But my heart 448 00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.440 broke for this. This story is a set. 449 00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:56.519 It's a sad story. 450 00:26:56.640 --> 00:27:00.000 Yeah, I mean yeah, And I don't like it when 451 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:04.799 people hide under the umbrella that they are working for 452 00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:07.000 a faith or doing this in the name of God 453 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:09.880 or whatever, like this man, Reverend whatever is bud Is, 454 00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:13.920 was very proud of the fact that he was a 455 00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:17.160 member of whatever clergy he thought he was a brotherhood 456 00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:21.960 of and he used that position of power to take 457 00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:25.440 advantage of people far below the station. And I'm sorry, 458 00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:27.640 when you're a reverend, you're supposed to be lifting your 459 00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:29.079 hand down and picking people up. 460 00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:33.799 Well, these kids were kidnapped. Really, when you just you 461 00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:36.440 get down to the brass tack su the facts of 462 00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:36.880 the matter. 463 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.319 These kids, this man saw to take advantage of how 464 00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:42.119 this boy is. 465 00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:47.640 Telling the story. They were taken from their home under 466 00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:52.440 the guys of false pretenses. Yeah, and it appears that 467 00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:56.519 the parents were never told and so yeah, I mean 468 00:27:56.640 --> 00:27:57.279 really that. 469 00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:01.599 Falls a man an orphanage and a foster like sort of. 470 00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:06.240 I mean, this is human trafficking. He was human trafficking children, 471 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:08.519 got kidnapping. 472 00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:12.519 And sending them and then taking those kids, like you said, 473 00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:18.680 he was kidnapping and then trafficking them for We don't know, but. 474 00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:21.079 He obviously went very well off. 475 00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:24.960 I'm gonna imagine he wasn't just doing this and not 476 00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:31.039 receiving anything that return. Yes, we don't know this never. 477 00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:33.880 At least I looked, Yeah, yeah. 478 00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:37.359 That information is probably never never because it's not out there. 479 00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:40.559 No one in this community has bothered to look into this. 480 00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:45.680 So as time passes, he starts to kind of become 481 00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:52.319 upset about the situation that he's in. He misses his sister, 482 00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:55.640 he misses his mother, and so he decided he's going 483 00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:58.000 to just leave the ranch and he's going to go 484 00:28:58.119 --> 00:29:02.000 look for his family on his own. But yet, he's 485 00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:08.039 such a good human being that he felt the need 486 00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:12.039 to take off all of any clothing and belongings that 487 00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:16.559 these quote unquote foster parents had bought for him, put 488 00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:21.200 on his old clothes and his old shoes, and take 489 00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:24.400 like thirty seven cents that he had in his pocket 490 00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:27.799 that he had earned at the gas station that he 491 00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:30.160 showed up with because he wasn't getting paid again you 492 00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:36.599 guys on this ranch, and leave and go look for 493 00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:40.240 his mom and sister on his own. So it's ninety 494 00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:43.119 seven miles from the ranch, simon the ranch, so I'm 495 00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:50.799 guessing that's probably was where he was living, to Hellsdale, Texas. 496 00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:53.880 When he gets there and I have no more information 497 00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:57.200 on this either, he discovers that his mom and his 498 00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:04.279 stepfather had moved away. I don't know why. I don't 499 00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:10.400 think his mom was physically in great shape and maybe 500 00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:13.880 even not mentally, because that'll make more sense here in 501 00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:20.400 a few minutes. So he began a personal honesty looking 502 00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:24.720 for these two women that chrisscrossed Texas and nearly covered 503 00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:27.079 over a thousand miles that this kid made to make 504 00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:29.960 it on his own with thirty seven cents and like 505 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:35.000 one outfit at twelve years old. 506 00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:39.279 Yeah, this kid is pretty remarkable. 507 00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:44.880 Absolutely so oddly like, we also find out Barnie's able 508 00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:50.119 to track down his earth father, who apparently like was 509 00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:52.559 choosing to not be I don't know, I don't know 510 00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:55.440 what his story. He doesn't seem like the most attentive 511 00:30:55.480 --> 00:31:02.240 human being, and he then travels to Kilgore and then 512 00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:06.599 onto Humble, just outside of Houston, where his father then 513 00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:11.119 puts him on a bus to Odessa, where he'd be 514 00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:12.960 reunited with his mother. So he shows up at his 515 00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:17.319 biological father's house. His biological father seems to have an 516 00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:23.240 idea where his mother is, doesn't seem to ask a 517 00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:29.720 lot of questions about where his daughter is, and basically 518 00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.400 puts him on a bus to go back to live 519 00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:36.359 with her, even though he was kidnapped from that location 520 00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:41.559 or from that person's custody at some point. Again, I've 521 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:44.680 got so many questions. So when he gets to Odessa, 522 00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:49.319 he gets off the bus and recognizes his mother and 523 00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:53.319 runs up to her, but she doesn't recognize him. It's 524 00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:57.200 a weird note that they tell us and unsolved mysteries 525 00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:00.279 because by the time they've been reunited, it's actually only 526 00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:03.079 been a year. There's a lot of life that happened 527 00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:07.440 in a very short amount of time, and the only 528 00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:10.000 change was he said at some point someone bottom a 529 00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:14.319 pair of glasses and his mom couldn't recognize him. To me, 530 00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.720 there is a part of me that wonders if this 531 00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:26.200 woman was struggling with some major potential physical or mental 532 00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:27.279 health issues. 533 00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:32.640 Uh the way, because Barney's want telling the story, He's 534 00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:39.680 just given us the flyby. There's so much more to 535 00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:43.119 this story, and I just think there's a lot we 536 00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:43.799 don't know. 537 00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:47.680 Oh yeah, he's just kind of trying to like. 538 00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:49.160 These people have taken him. 539 00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:52.400 I just think the way he tells a story, I mean, 540 00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:55.759 this story could probably fill up an entire episode if 541 00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:57.480 you actually got down to like. 542 00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:00.319 I know, it's just hard because then she turned to 543 00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:02.880 her son and asks him, well, have you talked to 544 00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:03.400 your sister? 545 00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:04.680 I don't know. 546 00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:07.440 We don't get any information on whether she had actually 547 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:11.319 been doing anything to try to find them either. And 548 00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:15.599 I know we covered the other story in Tennessee where 549 00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:20.119 there was the judge and her companion going around kidnapping 550 00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:23.960 children from parks, kind of in the same situation, realizing 551 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:26.759 that women were having to work and so kids were 552 00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:32.039 left unattended. And it sounds like, whether due to lack 553 00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:35.480 of education, or lack of financial means, or even like 554 00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:37.839 just barely being able to keep your head above water, 555 00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:41.680 they didn't have the wherewithal or the ability to like 556 00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.400 fight back. And that breaks my heart, which is another 557 00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:48.640 reason why this man was taking advantage of people in 558 00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:53.960 their most vulnerable states. So he says, no, I haven't. 559 00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:57.839 I don't know anything about my sister. So he asks 560 00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:01.880 his mom did she sign any papers? Like how did 561 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:03.599 we end up in this spot? And all she let 562 00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:06.640 them know is that she hadn't signed any paperwork and 563 00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:09.679 that she would have never done that to them. She said. 564 00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:14.239 Around the time that Reverend Nicholas took them, authorities had 565 00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:19.239 temporarily taken her into police custody, and she wasn't sure 566 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.920 the reason why, and then was let go shortly after 567 00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:24.960 to come home and find that her kids had been 568 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:31.280 taken because she had been quote arrested. So there's your scheme, 569 00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:34.840 which means that the police were probably being paid to 570 00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:39.400 bring these people in for false charges like it's a 571 00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:43.639 whole this is human trafficking like one oh one so, 572 00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:50.039 and no one ever had told her where the two 573 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:54.320 children were taken. So Barney goes on and lives with 574 00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:56.880 his mother and stepfather till he's eighteen years old, and 575 00:34:56.920 --> 00:35:00.480 in nineteen forty seven he's married for you. Years later, 576 00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:04.760 him and his wife Stella traveled to Albertine an attempt 577 00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:08.360 to locate Reverend Nicholas and ask him a few questions. 578 00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:12.039 They ended up meeting up with Nick Crane, who owned 579 00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:15.039 a pharmacy in town. Nick Crane, if you remember, is 580 00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:19.719 the adopted son of Reverend Nicholas, and Nick tells him 581 00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.079 that Reverend Nicholas had actually died a few years ago. 582 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:26.840 His orphan had been shut down by the state of Texas. 583 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:30.119 But again I could not find any records as to 584 00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:37.719 why it was closed, and whatever records had existed were 585 00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:40.960 kind of just tossed around in some buckets or boxes 586 00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:44.440 in the back of the pharmacy. So Varney and his 587 00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:48.559 wife siff through all the papers. They find nothing. They 588 00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:51.519 believe that some of the records were destroyed by employees 589 00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:55.320 of the orphanage. I'm gonna guess that maybe that had happened, 590 00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:59.320 like dumping the right like everyone's trying to what's this. 591 00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:02.039 There's like several movies where there's scenes of like, you know, 592 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:04.760 the FBI is coming and everyone's like that shredders and 593 00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:06.800 is trying to dump all the records. That's what I 594 00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:12.719 imagine happened. Yeah, yeah, So Barney, now at the age 595 00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:17.559 of sixty two years old, is living in Stockton, California. 596 00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:20.719 He himself is a minister. I found out. They didn't 597 00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:22.280 say that, but I looked it up, like that's what 598 00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:26.400 his career was. And for the last fifty years he 599 00:36:26.519 --> 00:36:31.159 has been searching for his sister. 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That's way too many kids. 637 00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:23.559 And his orphanage was called the West Texas Children Aid 638 00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:29.519 and Welfare Association and daring the early to mid nineteen nineties. 639 00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:34.719 Many of the families were in financial troubles who had 640 00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:37.119 their children go missing. 641 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:41.199 You said in the nineteen nineties, You mean nineteen. 642 00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:48.719 Thirties, sorry, nineteen hundreds. Yeah, So that's kind of where 643 00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:56.559 unsolved mystery leaves us, all right, update solved on the 644 00:38:56.639 --> 00:39:02.920 night of the broadcast Barney's prayers. Right when Neil Smith 645 00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:09.400 of Cedar Hill recognized Angelaie as his adopted sister, Martha 646 00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:12.840 Jean Smith. The picture of her and Barney was the 647 00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:15.480 same one she brought with him with her from the 648 00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:19.239 orphanage when the Smiths took her in in nineteen forty one. 649 00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:23.760 She had grown up in Cross Plains. Another adopted brother 650 00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:26.440 named Paul had actually tried to help her locate her 651 00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:31.199 birth family, but had been unsuccessful. Martha Jean is mildly 652 00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:37.320 mentally handicapped and lives and works at Rainbow Acres, a 653 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:42.039 group home for mentally disabled adults in Camp Verde near 654 00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:44.519 flag Stuff. Kim Birdy is actually really close to where 655 00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:48.480 we stayed when we went up to Strawberry this last year. 656 00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:52.000 Verde means green, so it's called Camp Green, but we 657 00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:56.599 like to use Spanish words in Arizona there but that 658 00:39:56.679 --> 00:39:58.480 in your book of fun facts, so. 659 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:00.639 Thank you. 660 00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:04.880 Sadly, she had grown up with the belief that her 661 00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:07.679 birth family did not love her and wanted nothing to 662 00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:10.199 do with her. That was kind of the story that 663 00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:14.719 she was told I know. However, she was happy to 664 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:19.880 learn that that wasn't actually true, and Barney immediately made 665 00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:23.280 arrangements to reunite with her at his daughter's house in Chandler, 666 00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:27.199 So March twenty third, nineteen ninety two, a few weeks 667 00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:30.800 after the broadcast, they are able to reunite. They are 668 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:33.159 thrilled to see each other, and they're happy that this 669 00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:36.559 whole search is over. And his only regret was that 670 00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.199 he wasn't able to find her obviously before their mother 671 00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:44.239 had passed away. And she expressed on the unsolved mysteries 672 00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:47.280 update the joy that she felt, and she's now happy 673 00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:49.960 to believe that she has two families that love her 674 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:55.039 instead of just one. So that afternoon, Barney and Martha 675 00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:58.360 Martha Jean began to fill in details of the years 676 00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:01.719 they had spent apart, happy to learn that even with 677 00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:07.119 her disabilities, that she had been raised in a loving 678 00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:09.239 home and was very well taken care of by her 679 00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:13.679 adopted family. He's very grateful about that, and that he 680 00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:16.000 considers this one of the high points in his life. 681 00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:18.639 So, yeah, there you go. 682 00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:22.320 And he ended up living till March twenty third, two 683 00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:25.639 thy nineteen, and passed away at the age of ninety 684 00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:32.199 years old. So he died on March twenty third, twenty nineteen. 685 00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:34.840 And they reunited on March twenty. 686 00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:39.960 Third, Yes, nineteen ninety two. That is that gave me goosebumps. Bin, 687 00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:44.360 I did not even put that together. Yeah, there you go. 688 00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:46.679 God works some mysterious ways. 689 00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:46.960 Huh. 690 00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:52.119 So, yeah, she's still I couldn't find any record of 691 00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:55.719 her passing. But I mean twenty nineteen, she was eight 692 00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:58.559 in nineteen forty one, Well, she. 693 00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:04.039 Was born in nineteen thirty three, so she's almost one hundred. 694 00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:07.920 If she is still alive, Yeah, I should look up. 695 00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:11.000 I didn't look up that camp of it up in uh. 696 00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:16.239 Right, nineteen thirty three, so she'd be ninety two years old. 697 00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:19.920 I could not find any record that she had passed away. 698 00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:23.519 It's hard because she's got two names, like on the 699 00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:27.159 Unsolved Mysteries her she goes by her. 700 00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.000 That's the name she worked by most of her life, 701 00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:34.559 which Smith is a very common last name she is. 702 00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:38.119 Yeah, I mean camp Verde is a very very tiny, 703 00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:40.559 tiny community, So if she lived there for as long 704 00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:43.199 as she did, I'm sure that there are people that 705 00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:48.119 are aware of who she is. So yeah, So to 706 00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:50.960 answer some of your questions, I did do some research 707 00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:54.320 in on this man. What was infuriating in a way 708 00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:58.360 is that this tiny, smaller Texas town where he's from. 709 00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:00.800 He's like buried in a place of honor, like with 710 00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:05.159 a plaque, and there's like write ups in the newspaper. 711 00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:07.760 There's all kinds of like things about in the in 712 00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:14.400 the museum. I think that these the This is very 713 00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:18.880 evident to me that this man was not doing things correctly. 714 00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:22.239 For thousands of people to go through his orphanage, for 715 00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:24.800 him to be so uber wealthy in a time where 716 00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:27.320 money was hard to come by, and on top of 717 00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:30.159 that that most of the families whose children were missing 718 00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:35.519 were impoverished. This man, in my opinion, with and I mean, 719 00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:37.159 here's it, he's dead. I can say whatever I want 720 00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:39.440 to him about him. I think he's a terrible human 721 00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:43.760 being who was human trafficking children and taking advantage of 722 00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:47.599 vulnerable people and pretending to be the sweet revend with 723 00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:51.199 a candy in his pocket and dressing kids up and 724 00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:54.239 feeling put in their bellies. And it seems like we're 725 00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:57.559 I'm grateful that this Smith family took this girl in 726 00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:03.239 and gave her a good life. According to her, however, 727 00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:10.000 this boy was given to his secretary to be a 728 00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:13.760 labor producer. I don't does that answer any of the 729 00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:15.480 question you and I both had questions when we were 730 00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:16.039 watching this. 731 00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:20.679 Yeah, I mean, I just it was pretty evident that 732 00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:23.239 there was so much more of this story. 733 00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:26.320 I found a Facebook post about him and kind of 734 00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:28.239 just like glorifying him, and I, I. 735 00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:31.719 Mean, it's it's pretty clear though. We've now covered multiple things. 736 00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:37.039 We've covered the Tennessee. We've covered the trains from New York. 737 00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:40.800 That wasn't someone kidnapping them. That was so many kids 738 00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:44.719 were homeless on the streets. Yeah, New York was trying. 739 00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:48.639 They were trying to push them into an area where 740 00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:50.679 maybe they could have a better thing. 741 00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:54.199 But unfortunately, unfortunately we took advantage of that and looked 742 00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:57.719 for what do Yeah, they saw free labor and families. 743 00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:00.280 Brothers and sisters were separating. That was one of the 744 00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:02.320 stories we had with them. I was separated from a 745 00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:03.760 sister and. 746 00:45:03.880 --> 00:45:04.559 He was looking. 747 00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:10.800 Like we are said, this world we don't even understand 748 00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:15.440 because twenty twenty six does not even function anywhere close. 749 00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:19.000 Yeah to this, that's not a justification at all. 750 00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:24.360 I just I don't with that said, you, as a 751 00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:30.679 man of God, were profiting off children, ripping them away 752 00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:34.480 from their families. You if you had so much money, 753 00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:38.000 why weren't you trying to lift these families up? Why 754 00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:42.239 weren't you providing food or clothing or education for them? Instead, 755 00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:46.559 you saw this as an opportunity to serve yourself, to 756 00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:50.519 make money off of them, and to appear to be 757 00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:54.719 doing it in some good graces, like a man that is. 758 00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:56.280 Low lo low. 759 00:45:56.719 --> 00:45:59.039 At the end of the day, these two kids were 760 00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:03.159 kidnapped from them parents, and it was separated from his 761 00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:04.920 sister for fifty years. 762 00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:10.440 Yeah, and that's terrible. Yeah, and yeah, I don't know. 763 00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:12.800 I'm not an investigative journalist. I'll tell you what. If 764 00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:16.559 you live down in Texas, this would be an amazing piece. 765 00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:18.719 I think it would be an amazing write up. To 766 00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:20.719 kind of do a deep dive, to be able to 767 00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:22.920 go to the archives, to be able to interview people. 768 00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:26.880 I think it would be really fascinating and to I 769 00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:29.639 don't know right or wrong, I guess would be potentially 770 00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:32.159 to just find out some answers. I know there's not 771 00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:35.639 going to be any justice for some of these people, 772 00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:38.840 but to maybe shine a light on maybe something not good. 773 00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:41.320 What do you have for us, Benjamin, I. 774 00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:46.119 Have a terrible story for you. Buckle up, Buttercup, all right, 775 00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:49.599 I got the story of Joe and Mattie Harvey. 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So 814 00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:36.599 also there was a gas station. 815 00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:37.159 I told you. 816 00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.119 It was also a repair shop. I think Joe worked 817 00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:42.239 on some cars. It was the only place to kind 818 00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:45.400 of get grocery, some groceries for miles, and it was 819 00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:46.840 it was a gathering place. 820 00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:48.679 People came there, they hung out. 821 00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:52.400 And Joe and Maddie which I guess Maddie went by 822 00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:55.760 teat because they're interviewing family members and they're callin he 823 00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:57.000 teat all the time. 824 00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:01.400 And uh, which I do you know what a pig 825 00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:05.639 nipple is called a teat? It's just very close. Like 826 00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:07.800 it just was making me like, please don't if someone 827 00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:09.679 called me a teat. I don't think I would think 828 00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:13.920 of that at. Her name was That's what she went by. Okay, 829 00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:18.559 I will call her Maddy. But they they loved people 830 00:49:18.639 --> 00:49:22.000 coming in, They talked to people. They just were a 831 00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:26.280 very big staple. They were an older couple that all 832 00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:28.039 in this place, and they were a big staple in 833 00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:28.559 this town. 834 00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.320 Everyone loved him. They get his brother in there. 835 00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:34.519 He's talking and he's saying, you know, they they didn't 836 00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:38.360 have a bank account, which makes sense for people that 837 00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:42.480 probably grew up around the depression. They kept cash receipts 838 00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:44.880 and a lot of cash like in their in their 839 00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:47.239 home because you know, like I said, they didn't really 840 00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:50.559 trust guess stations. So he says, like I tried to 841 00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:53.119 tell him to get a bank account, put it in there. 842 00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:56.239 They didn't think. He even said, I told I told 843 00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:59.239 him to get a gun to protect themselves. Why would 844 00:49:59.280 --> 00:49:59.880 we need to do that. 845 00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:03.480 We know we're in this small town. We trust everybody 846 00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:07.400 and they're just very trusting people. So but unfortunately, on 847 00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:12.480 March fourth, nineteen ninety one, the sheriff is called because 848 00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:14.960 guess what, the store is not opened by nine am, 849 00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:17.639 and no one can remember the last time that that 850 00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:22.079 has happened, So of course they call the sheriff, and 851 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:24.320 we get the sheriff Joe May out. 852 00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:25.679 It looks like he's the. 853 00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:30.639 Only law enforcement guy in this town, which probably tracks 854 00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:33.800 for that town, and he shows up. He goes to 855 00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:38.119 the house, He gets in there and he notices something's wrong. 856 00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:40.760 He goes in the house and inside the house it's 857 00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:43.800 all burnt up. The house is not burned down to 858 00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:47.400 the ground, but the inside is like charred. And then 859 00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:50.320 as he goes outside, he's going down the steps from 860 00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:55.000 the house and he notices like blood spots and stuff 861 00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:59.679 on the stairs, so he knows instantly. He says, something's 862 00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:05.519 going on, So he calls TBI, the Tennessee Bureau of Investigations. 863 00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:08.719 They come out and they start doing an investigation. One 864 00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:12.079 thing that they notice is there is a gas can, 865 00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:16.440 like a gallon gas can on the counter. Blood spots 866 00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:19.440 throughout the house, at least that they can find that's 867 00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:23.000 not burnt up. We get Bill Pope, who is the 868 00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:27.480 district attorney general. He says, listen, we're told these two 869 00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:30.920 people they're missing. The house is burnt up. We all 870 00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:33.599 come to find out they keep money in the house. 871 00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:37.920 So obviously that leads the investigation that this was a 872 00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:42.719 possible robbery, and you know, obviously they think that this 873 00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:45.719 might be a murder. We learned that Joe and Maddie 874 00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:49.000 they didn't have children of their own, but they had 875 00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:51.559 a lot of family in this little town, and they 876 00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:54.639 had nieces and nephews, and they were very close with 877 00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:58.679 all of their extended family. And they were extremely close 878 00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:02.199 with their twenty seven year old niece, Cheryl Holland, who 879 00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:05.960 also had a daughter of her own, a five year 880 00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:09.960 old I learned later a son, I guess. They say 881 00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:14.280 they treated her like their daughter. They loved her, and 882 00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:18.360 they loved her daughter, that she came in, she hung out, 883 00:52:18.559 --> 00:52:23.400 They would do anything for her, but crazy. A week 884 00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:28.960 after Joe and Maddie go missing. Because technically they're missing, 885 00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:35.280 we've got a crime scene. Cheryl has disappeared trucks at 886 00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:38.440 a truck stop about two hours away. They find her 887 00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:43.440 truck abandoned Keyser in the truck. There's a necklace on 888 00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:48.480 the ground, her wallet and ID and everything is in 889 00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:52.199 the car. Bill Pope, who's the I told you the 890 00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:55.760 district attorney general, He says, listen, he is strange. The 891 00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:59.519 crime scene looks like she was abducted, and he says, now, 892 00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:04.239 we're really concerned. She's two hours away. We have three 893 00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:08.119 immediate family members missing. 894 00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:09.880 And a charredhouse. 895 00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:10.840 Yeah. 896 00:53:11.480 --> 00:53:14.320 Also, I found us a house in this area. 897 00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:14.960 Perfect. 898 00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:19.639 There is twelve acres, three bedroom, two baths, twenty seven 899 00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:23.000 hundred square feet. It's only listed like at five point forty. 900 00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:31.039 It has nothing but forest around it. It's super isolated here. 901 00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:31.599 I'm there. 902 00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:34.119 It's got like a garden in the front. 903 00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:35.320 I'm sold. 904 00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:38.920 There are trees for days. There's a huge front porch. 905 00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:42.679 Stop telling people about this place. If I could sell 906 00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:46.320 everything I own and move and not talk to another 907 00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:48.039 soul for the rest. 908 00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:51.119 Of my life life ceiling, two floor, all. 909 00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:54.360 Wood, I'm telling you I got I would move to 910 00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:56.559 a secluded place and not took to another soul for 911 00:53:56.639 --> 00:53:57.360 the rest of my life. 912 00:53:57.400 --> 00:53:58.119 I'd be okay with that. 913 00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:00.639 Well, you still have to talk to our friends podcast. 914 00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:02.440 I talk to you, I don't talk to them. 915 00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:04.679 Okay, sorry, I'm going to be looking on Zilla, but 916 00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:06.000 I'm also listening to your story. 917 00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:09.199 To listen to my story. Now Cheryl has disappeared. 918 00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:12.920 We're concerned, what I say, The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation 919 00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:17.039 are investigating. So guess what they bring in. They bring 920 00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:23.840 in Cheryl's They call him her common law husband, Eddie. 921 00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:33.920 Eddie does not seem there is no whoo whooping there. 922 00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:38.039 It is no this guy. We're yeah, not to give anywhere, 923 00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:38.840 but he's not cool. 924 00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:42.679 I probably she just seems like a crazy character. Okay, 925 00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:46.760 So they start questioning Eddie, what's going on? You know, 926 00:54:48.039 --> 00:54:50.760 where was Sheryl? When did you last see her? He 927 00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:53.840 they pretty much they don't tell us the exactly what 928 00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:57.400 he said. His story is not making sense. They bring 929 00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:01.559 him in again on March tenth. So now we're, you know, 930 00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:04.679 about a week after this is all that this has happened. 931 00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:06.639 They are trying to get to the bottom of this, 932 00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:10.360 and they're like, listen, tell us what's going on. 933 00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:13.920 So Eddie says, look, in late February, he. 934 00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:18.559 Took Cheryl to Knoxville to a hospital to get some 935 00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:23.199 treatment done for cancer. Supposedly, it was a week long 936 00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:26.199 treatment for stomach cancer. But when they asked, well, what 937 00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:28.760 was the name of the hospital, he can name it right, 938 00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:32.440 And they find out that Cheryl had been borrowing money 939 00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:37.079 from family members and friends for supposed cancer treatments. 940 00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:43.320 It's insane how many times people use cancer to take 941 00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:44.320 advantage of people. 942 00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:46.320 It's back then, though, it. 943 00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:49.719 Was say that is actually quite she was ahead of 944 00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:52.320 her hid which is not a brag. 945 00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:53.719 So they come to. 946 00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:57.440 Find out after they've already been doing the digging, Eddie's 947 00:55:57.480 --> 00:56:00.800 Story's now matched up because the week they were supposed 948 00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:04.440 to be in Knoxville at this cancer treatment, she was 949 00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:07.079 working at her truck stop in Chattanooga, which was her 950 00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:08.960 job at the time. He's like, so, how could she 951 00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:11.679 be in Chattanooga and Knoxville at the same time. 952 00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:12.519 She couldn't be. 953 00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:15.719 They they pretty much they put the screws Daddy. He's like, listen, 954 00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:19.519 we already know what you're telling us is BS, so 955 00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:22.920 spill the guts. So I'm getting to the next page 956 00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:26.559 of my notes and he broke and he said, Okay, 957 00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:27.559 if I tell. 958 00:56:27.480 --> 00:56:31.159 You what's going to happen, broke quick. Yeah, yeah, he 959 00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:33.280 keels over pretty quick. Yeah. 960 00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:37.000 He spills the beans pretty quick. He says, Okay, if 961 00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:38.840 I tell you what happens, what's. 962 00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:39.320 Going to happen to me? 963 00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:42.639 Like, uh, probably not good. 964 00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:45.480 Yeah, anyway, so he says. 965 00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:48.400 On March second, Cheryl comes home and says, listen, we 966 00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:49.199 need more money. 967 00:56:49.400 --> 00:56:51.719 I don't know what for. We don't get that information, 968 00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:55.480 but she clearly waiting. 969 00:56:54.679 --> 00:56:57.719 For them to be like there was a gambling problem 970 00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:03.039 or drug addiction or or insane debt. There never seems 971 00:57:03.159 --> 00:57:05.320 to be anything other than greed. 972 00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:09.599 That's what it appears from the story from what Yeah, 973 00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:14.199 Eddie's not working, she's working at the gas station or 974 00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:18.119 the truck stop. She comes on and says, we need 975 00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:20.920 more money, and I know where to get it from. 976 00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:23.639 He could get a job at any point. 977 00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:26.599 You are correct. 978 00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:35.440 I think even if he did, it wasn't going to satisfy. 979 00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:36.119 Well. 980 00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:39.400 I just I guess what I'm saying is if you 981 00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:41.760 already got this in your mind, you were going to 982 00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:42.960 get there eventually. 983 00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:47.960 I'm just the same thing. Motive obviously is important for 984 00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:52.920 human beings to rationalize, like how did this happen? These 985 00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:55.639 people are living in the backwoods, and I hear I'm 986 00:57:55.639 --> 00:57:58.320 not saying that as a knock on Tennessee. I love Tennessee, 987 00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:02.079 but they're listening. They're living in podunk middle of nowhere. 988 00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:05.719 We're cost of living I'm going to guess is next to. 989 00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:08.840 Actually in nineteen ninety one, that's what I mean. 990 00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:11.159 That was the time to live in Tennessee. Because now 991 00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:15.559 because everything's expensive, everyone moved away from Tennessee. Don't go there. 992 00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:16.679 It's terrible. 993 00:58:16.719 --> 00:58:21.039 It's terrible. 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So they go and they buy a 1033 00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:55.760 gas in they fill it up. They say they went 1034 00:59:55.800 --> 00:59:58.239 to her parents' house first, and then they go to 1035 00:59:58.360 --> 00:59:59.320 Joe and Maddie's house. 1036 01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:01.480 Okay, and let me paint you. 1037 01:00:01.639 --> 01:00:05.239 They have a single cab truck and the rein actor 1038 01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:08.239 and I'm going I guess that they that this single cab, 1039 01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:14.159 tiny Chevy yellow truck. They leave their six week old 1040 01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:18.320 son and five year old daughter in the truck. As 1041 01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:21.840 they get out, Eddie's telling the story. They're on the 1042 01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:24.559 stairs going up to the house and she says to Eddie, 1043 01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:28.159 did you bring the gun? And he's like, why do 1044 01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:30.760 I need to bring the gun? She goes, because we're 1045 01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:32.960 going to have to kill him. And then he says, 1046 01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:35.440 do we really have to kill him? She's like, then, 1047 01:00:35.559 --> 01:00:37.760 I'm just going to give the money up willingly. We're 1048 01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:41.679 going to have to kill him. And according to Eddie, 1049 01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:44.760 he doesn't really want any part of this whole story, 1050 01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:50.320 but he does it anyway because of his common law wife, Cheryl. 1051 01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:54.559 They walk in. Joe's on the couch watching TV. She's like, 1052 01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:56.840 oh hey. Joe's like, oh hey, Cheryl, how's it going. 1053 01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:00.719 She goes where you know, where's t oh She's in 1054 01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:01.119 the back. 1055 01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:06.440 Eddie or Eddie then walks up, boom shoots Joe on 1056 01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:11.239 the head. Tea comes out, Boom shoots her in the head. 1057 01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:15.239 They then take the bodies and shove it in there 1058 01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:19.559 the trunk of their own car. Joe and Manny's car, 1059 01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:26.119 and Cheryl their kids are in the truck in the driveway. 1060 01:01:26.360 --> 01:01:28.400 I know, I guess. 1061 01:01:28.599 --> 01:01:31.639 Supposedly Cheryl told Eddie go tell the kids to get 1062 01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:33.679 down on the floorboards, because, like I said, they want 1063 01:01:33.719 --> 01:01:34.440 the kids seeing them. 1064 01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:39.800 I cannot imagine that these are like super safety cautious parents. 1065 01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:42.039 Either it's a single cap truck and you're putting four 1066 01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:46.119 people like a six week old six weeks old, I. 1067 01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:48.480 Know these are human garbage. 1068 01:01:48.519 --> 01:01:52.679 Back So Cheryl then gets in the car and drives 1069 01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:57.360 it across the border to the Alabama to bridge Port 1070 01:01:57.559 --> 01:02:02.440 Ferry along the Tennessee River, and she diches the car 1071 01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:05.840 into the river. They get in their truck and they 1072 01:02:06.199 --> 01:02:10.440 drive away. He then says, Cheryl returns to the house, 1073 01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:15.280 steals one hundred and fifty thousand dollars from the house, 1074 01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:18.480 or just goes to show these people have all this 1075 01:02:18.639 --> 01:02:22.960 money what hidden in their house because it's probably cheap 1076 01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:23.320 to live in. 1077 01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:28.000 These people are just simple people giving a service to 1078 01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:28.760 the community. 1079 01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:37.079 Yes, absolutely, and I bet if they asked, yeah, they 1080 01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:40.400 would have helped her nace out. Yes, I'm sure they 1081 01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:43.679 would have. They seem like those kind of people. Clearly, 1082 01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:47.199 do we ever find out why she went to her 1083 01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:50.079 mom's house? First? Do you think that her mom now 1084 01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:54.039 dodged a bullet? Like literally speaking I have no idea, 1085 01:02:55.440 --> 01:02:57.559 makes you wonder, Yeah, I don't know. 1086 01:02:57.920 --> 01:03:00.760 So steals one hundred and fifty thousand dollars hat from 1087 01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:03.639 the house and then sets the house on fire, but 1088 01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:04.840 the house doesn't burn. 1089 01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:08.239 So these people literally can't do anything right. So they 1090 01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:11.239 can't parent, rite, they can't license, they can't set a 1091 01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:14.480 house on fire correctly, like they are idiots. 1092 01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:17.480 Yeah, the inside of the house burns because you actually see, 1093 01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:20.320 like file they say file footers, you see the inside 1094 01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:22.800 of the house and it is charred. But for some reason, 1095 01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:26.559 the whole house doesn't go up in flames. And they 1096 01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:30.239 never say why, I mean, but it doesn't. So obviously 1097 01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:35.679 they're there. They're investigating. Cheryl comes back to the scene 1098 01:03:35.719 --> 01:03:39.079 two days later, which he is a psychopath, because that 1099 01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:41.559 is what. Well, I think she comes back and realized this, 1100 01:03:41.719 --> 01:03:44.199 holy crap, the house didn't burn to the ground. 1101 01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:46.599 You didn't stay and wait and watch. 1102 01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:51.039 And guess what. The investigators pull out of the house. 1103 01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:55.960 And share start in the re enactment. They pull out 1104 01:03:56.960 --> 01:03:59.559 the gas can, the gas can. Guess what's on the 1105 01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:02.519 bottom of the gas can? A thumbprint? 1106 01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:05.760 Literally, plain is David didn't even have to dust for it, 1107 01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:06.320 you guys. 1108 01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:08.639 I guess yeah, Like they're showing it at least in 1109 01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:10.679 the reenactor like, oh, hey, check this out. We got 1110 01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:15.079 a fingerprint, yea. Guess what it matches the thumb print 1111 01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:20.360 of Cheryl Holland guess what? Then Cheryl does own disappears. 1112 01:04:21.679 --> 01:04:24.440 And I will say this again, no shade of these cops, 1113 01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:27.480 but once again, this is a tiny well you said what, 1114 01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:30.000 there's like one police officer or something in this. 1115 01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:33.960 Sheriff called the right people. That's what they came in 1116 01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:37.960 and within by March March tenth, so within a week. 1117 01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:41.639 But that is what I mean is that they were 1118 01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:45.119 on this immediately. Obviously these criminals are idiots too. 1119 01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:48.719 They literally thought that they probably got away with it 1120 01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:53.159 scott free and within ours if not a day or two, 1121 01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:57.000 they were on the right track. But yeah, this sheriff 1122 01:04:58.119 --> 01:05:00.639 in a tiny little town, being a of one person. 1123 01:05:00.719 --> 01:05:02.920 Probably this was way outside of his work. 1124 01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:08.280 Absolutely, I need I need more expertise anymore. Any more. 1125 01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:10.639 People that are could say that more often. 1126 01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:13.079 Let's what I say. 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So Eddie's charged with first degree murder. 1168 01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:08.639 They issue a warrant for Cheryl as they are now 1169 01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:10.159 trying to track her whereabouts. 1170 01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:11.840 They do tell this. 1171 01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:15.480 It's kind of weird, but they're just they're trying to say, hey, listen, 1172 01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:19.519 this is what we know so far. Cheryl was supposedly 1173 01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:23.320 seen at a gas station being followed by a bearded man. 1174 01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:26.559 Didn't look like she wanted to talk to him. Supposedly 1175 01:07:26.840 --> 01:07:29.920 they had witnesses saying that he was in a truck 1176 01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:33.719 following her. So they like, they get Bill Pope and 1177 01:07:33.760 --> 01:07:37.320 there he's like, listen, this is what we know. He 1178 01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:38.559 might be involved or he might not. 1179 01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:39.239 We don't know. 1180 01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:41.800 Was she forced by this guy, But at the end 1181 01:07:41.840 --> 01:07:44.920 of the day, we believe she's involved in some way. 1182 01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:47.480 She's with a bearded man somewhere, so she. 1183 01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:51.960 Was either abducted by him and maybe he was forcing her, 1184 01:07:52.119 --> 01:07:55.239 we don't know, or she connocted this whole plan. 1185 01:07:55.440 --> 01:07:58.599 Yeah, at the end of the day, we want to know. 1186 01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:02.079 I will say, does break my heart because Cheryl's sisters 1187 01:08:02.159 --> 01:08:06.960 interviewed and she believes wholeheartedly. My sister, I don't think 1188 01:08:07.039 --> 01:08:09.960 did this. I think Eddie did something to her. She 1189 01:08:10.119 --> 01:08:12.119 was forced into this. She was just trying to protect 1190 01:08:12.159 --> 01:08:17.079 her kids, and she even thinks, I don't even think. 1191 01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:22.800 I think Eddie probably killed her and Jesus. So that's 1192 01:08:22.840 --> 01:08:26.279 where also mysteries leave us. Eddie Wilton is at. 1193 01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:29.920 This time half of yeah, half of the duo has 1194 01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:30.560 been caught. 1195 01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:34.239 Being charged with first degree mr. They want Cheryl. Clearly, 1196 01:08:34.399 --> 01:08:35.960 she is involved to some extent. 1197 01:08:36.119 --> 01:08:37.399 We have some questions for her. 1198 01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:41.159 She's got a fingerprint on a guess can and I mean, 1199 01:08:41.399 --> 01:08:41.880 here's the thing. 1200 01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:43.239 Where are the children? 1201 01:08:43.560 --> 01:08:46.359 They I don't know. They interview. 1202 01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:51.119 The brother in law and he says, listen, Eddie has 1203 01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:53.640 only been in the picture for a year. He didn't 1204 01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:57.520 even know that Joe and Maddy had cashed at the house. 1205 01:08:57.800 --> 01:09:00.640 He wouldn't have even known. Cheryl is the only one 1206 01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:03.680 that knew. He thinks one hundred percent Chryl's involved. Yeah, 1207 01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:06.800 he says, this guy hasn't even been around long enough 1208 01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:09.920 to know the ins and outs of our family. Got 1209 01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:14.960 it Okay, So that's where's misters. We're looking for Cheryl. 1210 01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:17.640 What are the of the date of state? 1211 01:09:18.760 --> 01:09:20.640 Within an hour of the broadcast? 1212 01:09:21.079 --> 01:09:22.399 I love when I hear that. 1213 01:09:22.720 --> 01:09:27.640 Within an hour of the broadcast, they collin, Hey, we 1214 01:09:27.760 --> 01:09:31.159 think we know Cheryl She's an employe at a gas 1215 01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:38.600 station in Austin, Texas. They interview the deputy she shows up, says, hey, lady, 1216 01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:42.760 are you Cheryl Holland? She goes, yes, I am. She 1217 01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:47.560 places her under arrest. Cheryl Holland then says to her boss, 1218 01:09:48.039 --> 01:09:51.600 I got into trouble. Yeah, because they interview her boss. 1219 01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:54.319 We're going to be making it to work. 1220 01:09:54.760 --> 01:09:59.640 She was working under the name Amy Forrester, had a 1221 01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:03.960 fake ID, living a whole new life in Austin, Texas. 1222 01:10:04.039 --> 01:10:07.880 Which that's why I say the whole beard man that like, 1223 01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:11.079 they were telling that because at the time, they're just 1224 01:10:11.199 --> 01:10:13.760 they were trying to track her whereabouts that she was 1225 01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:19.359 last seen and they didn't know. It's clear she just 1226 01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:22.880 took a new identity and high tailed it to Austin, Texas. 1227 01:10:23.159 --> 01:10:27.520 She's brought back to Tennessee. She's charged for first degree murder. 1228 01:10:27.640 --> 01:10:33.039 She is facing the death penalty. Guess what Cheryl does. 1229 01:10:34.680 --> 01:10:39.960 She pleads guilty to two counts of first degree murder. 1230 01:10:41.279 --> 01:10:45.319 I did my research. I found out they offered they 1231 01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:48.439 offered her as she pled guilty to first degree murder, 1232 01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:53.359 they would take the death penalty off the table. Both 1233 01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:58.600 her and Eddie pleaded guilty to first agree murder. They 1234 01:10:58.760 --> 01:11:01.720 both were sentenced to life in prison. 1235 01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:05.399 So Cheryl was involved. 1236 01:11:06.199 --> 01:11:11.640 Cheryl had a major part in this and to the 1237 01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:15.600 point where she was she pleaded guilty. Eddie has died 1238 01:11:15.640 --> 01:11:19.960 in prison. I looked it up. Cheryl is still in prison. 1239 01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:24.000 I found her picture, found her record in the Tennessee 1240 01:11:25.319 --> 01:11:29.199 prison system. She's eligible for her first parole hearing in 1241 01:11:29.399 --> 01:11:30.600 twenty twenty seven. 1242 01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:35.720 Ooh, interesting. Well, we'll have to keep an eye on 1243 01:11:36.039 --> 01:11:37.399 check and see if she's able. 1244 01:11:37.760 --> 01:11:38.840 I hope she doesn't get it. 1245 01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:39.920 I hope she doesn't either. 1246 01:11:40.359 --> 01:11:43.079 She shot her aunt and uncle in the head. I'm 1247 01:11:43.119 --> 01:11:45.520 not say she was part of a plan. 1248 01:11:45.720 --> 01:11:47.039 She orchestrated the whole thing. 1249 01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:50.199 She could have been the one to pull the trigger. 1250 01:11:50.279 --> 01:11:51.760 We have no idea. At the end of the day, 1251 01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:55.119 they're both responsible. They both texted me with their two 1252 01:11:55.319 --> 01:11:58.920 children in the car and all to steal their aunt 1253 01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:03.359 uncle's money. Like I don't know, I just yeah, it 1254 01:12:03.479 --> 01:12:06.600 was funny, because not funny, it just it was sad. 1255 01:12:07.640 --> 01:12:10.680 They tell them when they found the car and the 1256 01:12:10.800 --> 01:12:13.560 sheriff comes out, and it is clear that this sheriff 1257 01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:17.560 hasn't had to deal with a lot of terrible things, 1258 01:12:18.079 --> 01:12:23.079 and that makes me happy. Yeah, because he says he 1259 01:12:23.279 --> 01:12:25.479 was the one that had to identify the bodies, and 1260 01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:30.000 you can see it in his eyes. He was tore up, 1261 01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:33.039 Yeah by having So. 1262 01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:36.680 Why I'm saying that is it is clear that these 1263 01:12:36.920 --> 01:12:41.600 were very good people, a very big part of that community, 1264 01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:45.399 and that lady and her common law husband. 1265 01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:50.760 What the f ever, dude, they are losing cold blooded 1266 01:12:50.880 --> 01:12:54.000 murder for no flipping reason. 1267 01:12:54.680 --> 01:12:59.600 So now she's got her parole, her first parole hearing 1268 01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:03.439 in twenty twenty seven. I hope she doesn't get out. 1269 01:13:04.079 --> 01:13:06.199 I hope it's tolet me to send an email. I'm 1270 01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:08.399 really good at sending emails for people that are about 1271 01:13:08.439 --> 01:13:10.600 to come up for parole and say why I think 1272 01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:11.199 they shouldn't. 1273 01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:13.399 Yeah, I mean, I just I do hope she does 1274 01:13:13.439 --> 01:13:16.279 spend the rest of her life in She to ice 1275 01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:17.319 on an updated picture. 1276 01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:20.760 She looks old, and she does now look like prison 1277 01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:22.640 has been kind to her. 1278 01:13:22.800 --> 01:13:26.520 They don't have botox in prison. That's your story, all right, 1279 01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:30.920 Before we get into my story and our last story. 1280 01:13:31.079 --> 01:13:32.960 I thought it would be fun to read a few 1281 01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:39.079 of our reviews SOD. The title of the review is 1282 01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:44.079 love and This is from a pod Junkie nine and 1283 01:13:44.199 --> 01:13:47.439 it said happy to have found a new podcast to 1284 01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:54.359 binge explanation mark, thank you pod junkie nine. Okay. And 1285 01:13:54.479 --> 01:13:59.560 then the title of this review is for Unsolved Mystery 1286 01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:06.279 fans and it is from the reviewer bashful Mama. That 1287 01:14:06.359 --> 01:14:12.920 sounds kind of spicy. Bashful Bashful Mama says, I loved 1288 01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:15.600 Unsolf Mysteries when I was growing up. The best part 1289 01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:19.920 of the podcast is rehashing it with friends. Sierra and 1290 01:14:20.039 --> 01:14:23.439 Ben make the pod feel like a conversation between friends. 1291 01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:26.239 I love the updates. Some of these stories have stuck 1292 01:14:26.359 --> 01:14:30.079 with us for a lifetime, and the update reminds us 1293 01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:36.199 of that. Hope, I think that's awesome. Yes, bashful Mama, 1294 01:14:37.079 --> 01:14:39.239 I'm glad that you're sitting around. I literally said to 1295 01:14:39.279 --> 01:14:41.439 Ben today. One of the things I love about our podcast, 1296 01:14:41.479 --> 01:14:43.359 at least I hope our listeners is it they feel 1297 01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:45.760 like they're sitting around having a conversation with friends. We 1298 01:14:45.880 --> 01:14:48.760 got a little while last week, because can we all 1299 01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:50.880 just talk about Ben's giggling last week? If I'm really 1300 01:14:50.920 --> 01:14:55.159 good at tech, maybe I'll cut in. I'm going to 1301 01:14:55.239 --> 01:14:58.560 say it, and I'm just gonna start dropping it in. 1302 01:14:58.720 --> 01:15:02.199 I think so for anyone who listened to last week, 1303 01:15:02.920 --> 01:15:05.680 I actually cut quite a bit of the giggles out. 1304 01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:09.920 But Ben, no joke, you guys is belly laughing, which 1305 01:15:10.720 --> 01:15:13.000 I'm sure most of you guys know right now by 1306 01:15:13.079 --> 01:15:14.680 now that you feel like you know Ben pretty well, 1307 01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:17.359 that's not a common occurrence. 1308 01:15:18.119 --> 01:15:21.720 I don't belly laugh a lot of things. But I 1309 01:15:21.880 --> 01:15:26.880 lost it last week. So I asked for and it wasn't. 1310 01:15:27.479 --> 01:15:29.479 Well, if you would like to be in charge of 1311 01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:31.039 the editing, then you can. 1312 01:15:31.159 --> 01:15:31.840 I might have to. 1313 01:15:33.359 --> 01:15:34.960 Maybe that's what I need to start doing, guys. I 1314 01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:38.479 need to play Ben's trick on himself and just do 1315 01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:41.000 things that make him uncomfortable enough that he's like, I'll 1316 01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:46.640 just do it myself. Don't tell Ben that that's our plan. Okay, 1317 01:15:47.079 --> 01:15:48.720 this is the last one I'll read for I think 1318 01:15:48.760 --> 01:15:50.600 every every week I'm going to try to read a few. 1319 01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:55.199 So the title of the review reads the og true 1320 01:15:55.279 --> 01:16:01.199 crime and this is from VOD girl, and this one 1321 01:16:01.239 --> 01:16:05.960 you'll like. I like the skeptical oh excuse me, coughed. 1322 01:16:07.119 --> 01:16:12.079 I like the skeptical take in parentheses, especially from the husband. 1323 01:16:13.720 --> 01:16:14.920 Am I the husband? Yeah? 1324 01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:19.760 On Unsolved Mystery episodes which is still televised television good 1325 01:16:19.880 --> 01:16:23.720 even with their flaws. I love the episode reviews. 1326 01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:27.119 Do you think she means our flaws or the show's flaws. 1327 01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:34.000 Which are still televised on Unsolved Mysteries episodes which are 1328 01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:41.279 still televised, uh, which are which are Oh my gosh, 1329 01:16:41.319 --> 01:16:45.279 you guys, this should not be this difficult. Why can't 1330 01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:48.600 I read tonight? I like the skeptical take, especially from 1331 01:16:48.680 --> 01:16:55.720 the husbands on Unsolved Mystery episodes which are still television 1332 01:16:55.880 --> 01:16:59.720 good even with their flaws, which I'm gonna guess she 1333 01:16:59.800 --> 01:17:02.760 meant to say, which is still good television and she 1334 01:17:02.840 --> 01:17:06.399 just got the two words backwards. Are still good like television, 1335 01:17:06.760 --> 01:17:09.359 even with their flaws. We've called out Unsolved Mystery for 1336 01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:14.520 some of their things that are problematic, and I also 1337 01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:18.520 love the episode reviews. I'm going to guess the reviews 1338 01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:21.520 that we give when we like talk either good or 1339 01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:25.640 bad about them. Okay, so those are three of our 1340 01:17:26.399 --> 01:17:31.000 latest reviews. Hop on Apple podcast is the place that 1341 01:17:31.079 --> 01:17:34.600 you can leave like a review with a rating. If 1342 01:17:34.680 --> 01:17:39.760 you guys comment on Spotify and you leave like a 1343 01:17:41.039 --> 01:17:45.479 fun comment, I can also read those out into the 1344 01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:48.399 ethernet okay, So I'm gonna tell you guys about a 1345 01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:52.000 bink rubbery. So we get at the top of the show. 1346 01:17:52.159 --> 01:17:55.079 Robert Stax comes on, looking sharp with his trench coat 1347 01:17:55.119 --> 01:18:00.760 and says, according to the FBI official reports, on any 1348 01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:07.000 given day, at least forty banks are robbed at gunpoint, 1349 01:18:07.920 --> 01:18:11.520 full stop. So I googled because I was like that 1350 01:18:12.840 --> 01:18:15.560 that is a's a that's a lot of banks getting 1351 01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:20.199 robbed at gunpoint. Forty per day is the average. So 1352 01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:26.279 according to twenty twenty three FBI Bank Crime Statistics, there 1353 01:18:26.479 --> 01:18:29.960 was about there were one two hundred and sixty three 1354 01:18:30.039 --> 01:18:33.880 reported bank robberies in the United States, averaging out to 1355 01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:38.800 three point four to six robberies per day nationwide. This 1356 01:18:39.039 --> 01:18:43.479 is a significant decline from the past decades, and the 1357 01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:47.840 vast majority of these actually are unarmed robberies. 1358 01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:51.520 So I listened to a podcast a couple of weeks ago. 1359 01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:54.600 Okay, and about sixty percent of the cases are cleared, 1360 01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:57.800 which means forty percent of people are getting away with robbery. 1361 01:18:58.760 --> 01:19:01.840 That's a I mean, if you're gambling on odds, no. 1362 01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:05.439 Negative. 1363 01:19:07.319 --> 01:19:10.840 So I just time I've mentioned this podcast, he says, 1364 01:19:10.840 --> 01:19:13.800 I don't listen to a couple of podcasts, none of 1365 01:19:13.880 --> 01:19:14.600 them true crime. 1366 01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:18.000 I guess technically this is the kind of what true 1367 01:19:18.039 --> 01:19:19.800 crime podcasts do you listen. 1368 01:19:19.680 --> 01:19:22.159 To your mother? 1369 01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:29.520 I'm supposed to say, I'm self compalled. It's called Infamous America. 1370 01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:33.159 Great podcast, And he did like a six part series 1371 01:19:33.279 --> 01:19:38.640 on the North Hollywood pink robbery, which is if you 1372 01:19:38.680 --> 01:19:40.960 don't know anything about it, go worry about it is 1373 01:19:41.039 --> 01:19:45.560 a wild and there's footage out there it. But he 1374 01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:48.000 was talking he talks about in the beginning, like in 1375 01:19:48.119 --> 01:19:55.600 the nineties, eighties and nineties bank robberies they were escalating massively, 1376 01:19:55.960 --> 01:20:01.399 and also that it was it was rising with guns 1377 01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:03.239 and violent, violent robbery. 1378 01:20:03.319 --> 01:20:04.560 So this was a thing. 1379 01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:08.560 Now it is definitely because banks have done a lot 1380 01:20:08.680 --> 01:20:12.680 more to combat this, and obviously law enforcement's done a 1381 01:20:12.720 --> 01:20:14.039 really good job to combat it. 1382 01:20:14.560 --> 01:20:17.319 But yeah, like back then this was a problem. 1383 01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:22.920 Yeah, I just think it's interesting that there's actually most 1384 01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:26.199 of them are unarmed. What are you going in there 1385 01:20:26.279 --> 01:20:26.840 than in doing? 1386 01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:28.199 You see it? 1387 01:20:28.319 --> 01:20:30.760 Like they come in, they slide and nope, they have 1388 01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:32.680 their hand in their pocket, I guess. And at the 1389 01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:35.319 end of the day, if you're a teller, there's no 1390 01:20:35.399 --> 01:20:39.640 part risk. Why no it's not your money. I don't 1391 01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:41.039 blame you, don't don't risk it. 1392 01:20:41.520 --> 01:20:43.479 Even when I worked at the freaking Gap, maybe I 1393 01:20:43.520 --> 01:20:46.000 should be giving secrets away. We were told like, even 1394 01:20:46.039 --> 01:20:50.239 if you see someone like loading up their purse with inventory, 1395 01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:54.520 it is not worth your safety or your risk to 1396 01:20:54.760 --> 01:20:58.600 try to intervene with that. And so yeah, same way 1397 01:20:58.720 --> 01:21:04.680 with that. Okay. So November thirteenth, nineteen ninety one, two 1398 01:21:05.239 --> 01:21:09.640 armed bank robbers enter a bank in Henderson, Nevada. That's 1399 01:21:09.640 --> 01:21:13.520 where our brother in law is from, Henderson, Nevada, an 1400 01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:17.880 hour before opening. Okay, the bank manager, who is there, 1401 01:21:18.520 --> 01:21:20.960 I think at the time by himself, felt that the 1402 01:21:21.079 --> 01:21:25.720 robbers were experienced because they understood bank procedures. The robbers 1403 01:21:25.800 --> 01:21:28.479 knew that the manager only had half of the vault 1404 01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:32.000 combination and that they would have to wait for the vault. 1405 01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:35.279 Tell her to arrive because she would have the second 1406 01:21:35.359 --> 01:21:38.840 half of the combination and she was set to arrive 1407 01:21:38.880 --> 01:21:43.159 at eight am. 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What a way to start 1445 01:23:38.439 --> 01:23:41.359 your morning. Now you're literally probably been up for forty 1446 01:23:41.399 --> 01:23:44.000 five minutes to an hour. You got your heels on, 1447 01:23:44.439 --> 01:23:47.199 you got your coffee, you got your lunch backed. This 1448 01:23:47.279 --> 01:23:50.359 is a bad freaking day at work and you walk in. 1449 01:23:50.520 --> 01:23:53.560 In the moment you walk in, there's some crazy man 1450 01:23:53.680 --> 01:23:56.359 in a terrible halloween mask with a gun telling you 1451 01:23:56.439 --> 01:23:57.520 to stand against the wall. 1452 01:23:57.840 --> 01:23:59.399 Do you think they walked in and saw. 1453 01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:02.680 Like, I'm out, I don't want to deal with this today, 1454 01:24:03.359 --> 01:24:07.640 I know, just turn around leave. Yeah. So we don't 1455 01:24:07.720 --> 01:24:09.960 know exactly when because no one tells us, but at 1456 01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:12.720 some point it seems that one of the employees is 1457 01:24:12.880 --> 01:24:17.840 able to set a silent alarm, and as it's activated, 1458 01:24:17.920 --> 01:24:21.359 and again I have a lot of questions about protocol 1459 01:24:21.439 --> 01:24:23.600 around this, but this seemed to be the standard of 1460 01:24:23.640 --> 01:24:27.359 the time. The police, instead of necessary responding right away, 1461 01:24:28.359 --> 01:24:35.119 they they police dispatcher calls the bank to see if 1462 01:24:35.199 --> 01:24:39.039 there's an actual robbery going on. I saw It's funny, 1463 01:24:39.079 --> 01:24:40.960 because what are you supposed to say when you pick 1464 01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:45.399 up that phone call, like, yes, we're being robbed, Like 1465 01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:49.600 you got a gun at your back? Cool? 1466 01:24:50.399 --> 01:24:51.880 I would imagine. 1467 01:24:53.239 --> 01:24:57.319 They're told like, if anything seems off by the conversation, 1468 01:24:58.640 --> 01:24:59.039 I'm sure. 1469 01:24:59.119 --> 01:25:01.479 I just think it's like to me, I don't know, 1470 01:25:01.720 --> 01:25:05.399 it just seems like counterintuitive a little bit. So okay, 1471 01:25:05.800 --> 01:25:09.399 the police dispatch calls the bank, and the bank manager answers, 1472 01:25:09.439 --> 01:25:12.479 and when the dispatcher asks if everything all right, he answers. 1473 01:25:12.640 --> 01:25:16.880 I suppose the dispatcher took that as to mean that 1474 01:25:17.039 --> 01:25:22.079 something wasn't correct. So the manager then gets off the 1475 01:25:22.239 --> 01:25:25.920 phone and tells the robbers that the person calling was 1476 01:25:26.000 --> 01:25:28.720 from the store across the street and they were concerned 1477 01:25:28.760 --> 01:25:30.880 about a few things, and they had some questions, and 1478 01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:34.199 so that he needs to go over across the street 1479 01:25:34.680 --> 01:25:37.640 to have a conversation and straighten some stuff out or 1480 01:25:37.920 --> 01:25:42.359 they might call the police. Pretty smart, pretty smart, I 1481 01:25:42.439 --> 01:25:45.960 will say I this, I did not do anything wrong. 1482 01:25:46.239 --> 01:25:50.560 But he has three females tied up against a wall 1483 01:25:50.640 --> 01:25:54.279 and he's the only man in this situation, and he's like, oh, 1484 01:25:54.319 --> 01:25:56.720 I gotta go by, and so he and he said, 1485 01:25:56.960 --> 01:25:59.720 she in the calm down. I'm gonna get there, Ben, 1486 01:26:00.760 --> 01:26:02.920 he says, and the thing like this was one of 1487 01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:04.960 the hardest things he felt he had to do, but 1488 01:26:05.119 --> 01:26:08.159 he wanted to also like get out so he could 1489 01:26:08.319 --> 01:26:12.039 let the police know that there was a problem, because. 1490 01:26:11.960 --> 01:26:14.399 He says, it's on the phone with the police that 1491 01:26:14.840 --> 01:26:16.880 you got to be hanging up the phone and thinking 1492 01:26:17.960 --> 01:26:22.119 did they get the message the message or did they not? Yeah, 1493 01:26:22.479 --> 01:26:24.760 And then he's trying to use this as an opportunity 1494 01:26:24.800 --> 01:26:28.920 to say I have to let someone know, someone that 1495 01:26:29.079 --> 01:26:30.119 can do something. 1496 01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:33.119 No, so he leaves the building and goes out and 1497 01:26:33.239 --> 01:26:36.760 actually meets with officers who by now have been dispatched 1498 01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:43.800 to the parking lot. And we're the people giving the 1499 01:26:43.880 --> 01:26:47.079 interviews are from the bank robbery. They're the tellers, the employees, 1500 01:26:47.399 --> 01:26:50.760 and they're in shadow. This was obviously this was I 1501 01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:52.880 mean you are thinking you were this is your last 1502 01:26:52.960 --> 01:26:56.800 day on earth. This was very traumatizing. And at this 1503 01:26:56.960 --> 01:26:59.800 point they're being interviewed. These men have not been cut, 1504 01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:05.880 so they're in shadow, and they share that the other robber, 1505 01:27:06.079 --> 01:27:09.159 the second robber, who was only seemed to be their 1506 01:27:09.199 --> 01:27:13.520 only job was to be with the hostages, is getting 1507 01:27:13.640 --> 01:27:18.000 more and more agitated, which I am sure is so 1508 01:27:18.439 --> 01:27:22.520 nerve wracking, and he is worried that the robbery is 1509 01:27:22.600 --> 01:27:28.199 taking too long, and it's like mumbling under his breath 1510 01:27:28.279 --> 01:27:32.079 and acting really erratic, and the first robber comes out 1511 01:27:32.159 --> 01:27:38.439 and decides to take the vault teller hostage. This because 1512 01:27:38.439 --> 01:27:40.760 we're gonna find out the FI believes that these two 1513 01:27:40.840 --> 01:27:44.119 men are connected to a series of robberies as of yet, 1514 01:27:44.359 --> 01:27:48.399 as of this one, no hostages had been hurt or 1515 01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:53.680 removed from the scene. So he comes out, he tells 1516 01:27:53.760 --> 01:27:59.199 his partner grab one of the three women. We're taking 1517 01:27:59.279 --> 01:28:03.399 her with us. And then, for some reason, I mean, 1518 01:28:03.479 --> 01:28:07.720 thank goodness, really enough, the second man, who had been 1519 01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:11.159 kind of agitated and getting a little nervous, rips his 1520 01:28:11.359 --> 01:28:14.359 mask off and throws it on the ground, full face, 1521 01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:19.960 going full frontal in front of everybody. No, no, Is 1522 01:28:20.039 --> 01:28:21.880 that just going to be your response now anytime I 1523 01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:27.600 write a good joke about full frontal or anything, and 1524 01:28:27.720 --> 01:28:29.720 you're just going to say no to me? 1525 01:28:30.319 --> 01:28:30.680 That was. 1526 01:28:32.600 --> 01:28:37.239 That was genius writing right there. That's not I'm gonna 1527 01:28:37.239 --> 01:28:43.119 just drop in Bend's laugh full frontal. I could use 1528 01:28:43.199 --> 01:28:45.000 that laugh to my advantage every time I make it. 1529 01:28:45.960 --> 01:28:50.079 Deleting that episode, it's never going to exist after this week. 1530 01:28:50.760 --> 01:28:56.920 So he takes his mask off and leaves the bank. 1531 01:28:57.039 --> 01:29:01.439 So there's two robbers and a vault teller. They eat 1532 01:29:01.479 --> 01:29:04.479 her in the back of the car, hop in the 1533 01:29:04.560 --> 01:29:09.159 front and take off. Sounds like the other two vault 1534 01:29:09.199 --> 01:29:13.119 tellers are left inside the store managers with police. Okay, 1535 01:29:13.359 --> 01:29:18.199 is everyone on the same page. So we get interviewed 1536 01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:23.159 from the Henderson That's who it is, right, Henderson Police Department. Yeah, 1537 01:29:23.319 --> 01:29:26.479 Henderson Police Department. This guy looks like you couldn't be 1538 01:29:26.560 --> 01:29:29.359 more than a day over fourteen years old, and he 1539 01:29:29.600 --> 01:29:32.079 is interviewed and he tells us that after driving for 1540 01:29:32.479 --> 01:29:38.119 several minutes, the robbers drive through a large apartment complex. 1541 01:29:38.199 --> 01:29:40.199 And the thing about this apartment complex is that the 1542 01:29:40.319 --> 01:29:45.319 parking lot is very complicated. It has a lot of 1543 01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:47.960 dead ends, and a lot of things that don't necessarily 1544 01:29:48.039 --> 01:29:50.600 get out the exit. They believe that these men had 1545 01:29:50.720 --> 01:29:54.680 cased this parking lot beforehand, because they were able to 1546 01:29:54.760 --> 01:29:57.079 go through kind of the maze of the parking lot 1547 01:29:57.359 --> 01:29:58.880 and get out on the other side. 1548 01:29:59.239 --> 01:30:01.399 I agree with that. I think anyone's been in a 1549 01:30:01.560 --> 01:30:02.720 large apartment compus. 1550 01:30:03.239 --> 01:30:06.119 There's no streets, there's no like directions, So you were 1551 01:30:06.600 --> 01:30:09.720 wandering around. Did you ever have to deliver pizzas to 1552 01:30:09.840 --> 01:30:10.600 like large apartments. 1553 01:30:10.640 --> 01:30:14.600 Oh yeah, if you didn't know, like because you would 1554 01:30:14.640 --> 01:30:17.800 be told the building and the apartment number. But half 1555 01:30:17.840 --> 01:30:20.880 the time the buildings were not in order. Did you 1556 01:30:20.960 --> 01:30:21.760 feel life were. 1557 01:30:21.680 --> 01:30:26.159 Burnt out where they could get lost? Yeah, So I 1558 01:30:26.199 --> 01:30:29.439 thought that was interesting. So the police actually like almost 1559 01:30:29.600 --> 01:30:33.039 like this is like that game mousetrup. The police ended 1560 01:30:33.079 --> 01:30:35.199 up like getting turned around and like getting stuck in 1561 01:30:35.279 --> 01:30:38.279 certain parts of the parking lot, and the robbers are gone. 1562 01:30:38.479 --> 01:30:43.680 They're able to like get through no problems. So then 1563 01:30:43.800 --> 01:30:49.720 at that point they are able to switch to a 1564 01:30:49.880 --> 01:30:54.600 quote unquote getaway car, release the hostage. At this point 1565 01:30:54.720 --> 01:30:57.560 they chuck her out of the car. She's interviewed and 1566 01:30:57.640 --> 01:30:59.199 she says that like once she got in the car. 1567 01:30:59.319 --> 01:31:00.760 She lood the best thing she could do, and I 1568 01:31:00.840 --> 01:31:03.479 think this probably saved her life. She put her head 1569 01:31:03.520 --> 01:31:05.319 down and just like buried her face because it was 1570 01:31:05.439 --> 01:31:07.960 almost like if I don't know what's going on and 1571 01:31:08.039 --> 01:31:09.760 I don't see them, then they don't have a reason 1572 01:31:09.840 --> 01:31:14.840 to like dead men tell no telles sort of thing. 1573 01:31:15.079 --> 01:31:15.199 Right. 1574 01:31:15.439 --> 01:31:16.920 She was afraid they were going to kill her, which 1575 01:31:17.600 --> 01:31:20.039 is a valetir. They just took her from. 1576 01:31:19.960 --> 01:31:23.520 The bank at gundo point and they're acting like crazy. 1577 01:31:23.239 --> 01:31:25.880 People, so you've got to imagine the worst thing is 1578 01:31:25.960 --> 01:31:26.720 going to happen to you. 1579 01:31:27.920 --> 01:31:31.920 So authorities believe that the two men that held up 1580 01:31:32.319 --> 01:31:36.479 the Henderson Bank are responsible for ten other bank robberies 1581 01:31:37.159 --> 01:31:41.159 from nineteen eighty six to nineteen ninety one, and in 1582 01:31:41.239 --> 01:31:47.560 every case their disguise had successfully concealed their identity. They 1583 01:31:47.600 --> 01:31:51.439 wore these like masks. They show up a blurry picture 1584 01:31:51.479 --> 01:31:54.880 of them at one point of them, like from surveillance 1585 01:31:54.960 --> 01:31:58.520 from a inside of a bank. The mask is very creepy, 1586 01:31:58.680 --> 01:32:02.199 like yeah, from that time, like nineteen eighties Halloween mask 1587 01:32:02.960 --> 01:32:07.600 and that morning though, you guys know joke. There is 1588 01:32:07.720 --> 01:32:10.359 a woman who is a news reporter I think for 1589 01:32:10.520 --> 01:32:16.239 a local newspaper, and her name's Catherine Scott. She has 1590 01:32:16.800 --> 01:32:22.960 in her possession a police scanner, and she is wes 1591 01:32:23.159 --> 01:32:26.199 most reporters would have done at that time. Is sitting 1592 01:32:26.239 --> 01:32:29.239 at our news desk that morning, probably thinking of something 1593 01:32:29.319 --> 01:32:31.239 to write. I don't think a lot of crazy things 1594 01:32:31.319 --> 01:32:32.279 happen in Henderson. 1595 01:32:32.640 --> 01:32:34.880 Technically you have a police scanned. 1596 01:32:34.600 --> 01:32:38.640 Okay, I don't anymore? Did you recently? Side note, side quest, 1597 01:32:38.840 --> 01:32:42.560 come with me on this journey. Pima County Post the 1598 01:32:42.640 --> 01:32:47.680 Nancy Guthrie case and tusam Pedie scrambled their police scanners 1599 01:32:47.760 --> 01:32:49.840 and they no longer are able to be used on 1600 01:32:49.920 --> 01:32:53.640 any of the police scanner apps. Encrypted is the word 1601 01:32:53.680 --> 01:32:56.880 I was looking for, not scrambled. Yeah, they're encrypted, but 1602 01:32:57.119 --> 01:33:02.039 only because of well conspiracy theory is is because it's 1603 01:33:02.039 --> 01:33:03.119 a the Nancy Gouthree thing. 1604 01:33:03.119 --> 01:33:05.680 Because I'm just saying now, there's apps for. 1605 01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:09.000 There's apps that you can pull up police scanners and 1606 01:33:09.119 --> 01:33:13.760 listen to like what is happening right now in like Hodunk, 1607 01:33:14.039 --> 01:33:17.159 New Jersey, or and you can listen anywhere, and which 1608 01:33:17.199 --> 01:33:19.159 I mean, I'm sure would be a really fun experiment 1609 01:33:19.239 --> 01:33:20.520 every once in a while to be like, oh it's 1610 01:33:20.600 --> 01:33:22.760 three in the morning over on the East Coast, what's 1611 01:33:22.840 --> 01:33:25.479 happening in some of these little tiny towns. But yeah, 1612 01:33:25.640 --> 01:33:29.039 I just found this out because I've got I've got 1613 01:33:29.720 --> 01:33:34.479 a contact that is a reporter, like an investigative Facebook 1614 01:33:34.560 --> 01:33:38.640 sort of YouTube reporter who is local who That's the 1615 01:33:38.720 --> 01:33:40.840 person I reached out to when there was a shooting 1616 01:33:40.880 --> 01:33:44.800 at the mall that we were at and sent him 1617 01:33:44.800 --> 01:33:47.520 a message and he was actually like telling me what 1618 01:33:47.680 --> 01:33:50.359 was happening at the mall before I saw the reports 1619 01:33:50.399 --> 01:33:53.000 of what was happening, because he was listening to the 1620 01:33:53.039 --> 01:33:57.920 police scanners at his house, and so he is struggling 1621 01:33:58.000 --> 01:33:59.960 right now because he would post like, hey, stay out 1622 01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:02.520 of this area, avoid these things because this is happening 1623 01:34:02.560 --> 01:34:06.960 on the police scanner right now, and post Nancy Guthrie. 1624 01:34:07.560 --> 01:34:12.840 Only like two weeks ago, Pima County and Tucson Pete 1625 01:34:13.159 --> 01:34:16.560 encrypted their scanners so we can't listen to them anymore, 1626 01:34:16.680 --> 01:34:20.920 which I got a lot of thoughts on. But that's 1627 01:34:20.960 --> 01:34:23.920 another podcast for another day. As one would say, Okay, 1628 01:34:24.880 --> 01:34:28.800 so yeah, missus Scott is just doing her due diligence. 1629 01:34:28.920 --> 01:34:33.479 She's a news reporter and she hears something juicy coming 1630 01:34:33.560 --> 01:34:37.960 across and that is that there are two men driving 1631 01:34:38.079 --> 01:34:41.239 a stolen vehicle or a getaway car, and they are 1632 01:34:41.479 --> 01:34:47.239 they believe that they are headed along Sunset Road, heading 1633 01:34:47.279 --> 01:34:51.880 in a certain direction, and she's like, well, shizz, that's 1634 01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:54.520 right down the street from my station. So she, in 1635 01:34:54.600 --> 01:34:58.840 the reenactment, has her ginormous radio tucked underneath her arm. 1636 01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:03.920 She has got a old fashioned camera, like the kind 1637 01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:06.199 you wood roll like back then. 1638 01:35:06.279 --> 01:35:07.159 It was not old fit. 1639 01:35:07.279 --> 01:35:10.880 It was very yes, new times back then. And she 1640 01:35:11.279 --> 01:35:14.319 is high stepping it out to her car in her 1641 01:35:14.399 --> 01:35:18.600 heels and everything. And she gets in her vehicle and 1642 01:35:19.479 --> 01:35:24.000 no joke, she's interviewed and she is telling us this 1643 01:35:24.199 --> 01:35:28.920 story in all of the nineties glory outfit that she 1644 01:35:28.960 --> 01:35:31.039 has on. The hair they make up the outfit. She 1645 01:35:31.199 --> 01:35:34.079 even had a brooch on. It was incredible. She is 1646 01:35:34.159 --> 01:35:36.640 saying that as she is driving, let's just stay north, 1647 01:35:37.199 --> 01:35:39.920 she sees a vehicle driving at a wrapid rate of 1648 01:35:39.960 --> 01:35:43.199 speed south and she recognizes it as the vehicle that 1649 01:35:43.279 --> 01:35:48.960 had been described on her radio. And she starts to 1650 01:35:49.039 --> 01:35:51.479 be like, oh my gosh, I've got a camera in 1651 01:35:51.560 --> 01:35:53.560 my hand. I can take a picture. But if I 1652 01:35:53.640 --> 01:35:55.840 take a picture, these people might see that I have 1653 01:35:55.920 --> 01:35:58.239 a picture, and then they might pull up their weapons 1654 01:35:58.319 --> 01:36:01.239 and then they could shoot me. But I could also 1655 01:36:01.279 --> 01:36:02.840 do the right thing. I need to take this picture. 1656 01:36:02.880 --> 01:36:05.720 And she goes back and forth. She said, almost time 1657 01:36:06.079 --> 01:36:09.800 slows down, and that she's like having this internal debate. 1658 01:36:10.079 --> 01:36:13.199 And finally, at the very last second, as they're driving 1659 01:36:13.760 --> 01:36:17.880 south and she's heading north, she pulls up her camera 1660 01:36:19.439 --> 01:36:23.119 in the in the roll down window as they're driving by, 1661 01:36:23.760 --> 01:36:27.880 and just like click one click, because you couldn't rapid 1662 01:36:27.920 --> 01:36:30.880 fire cameras back then, and just keeps driving out and 1663 01:36:30.960 --> 01:36:33.079 I'm sure her heart was boom boom, boom, boom boom. 1664 01:36:33.960 --> 01:36:36.720 I was expecting this picture to be the most ridiculous, 1665 01:36:36.800 --> 01:36:37.960 blurry thing you'd ever seen. 1666 01:36:38.720 --> 01:36:39.920 It wasn't as bad as I. 1667 01:36:39.960 --> 01:36:44.279 Thought, I agreed. I was actually quite impressed with at 1668 01:36:44.359 --> 01:36:46.439 the greatest speed, that she was going one way and 1669 01:36:46.520 --> 01:36:48.119 they were going the other, that this was able to 1670 01:36:48.199 --> 01:36:52.199 capture anything. So she is literally the hero of the day. 1671 01:36:52.600 --> 01:36:55.039 She has this picture, she's able to turn it over 1672 01:36:55.079 --> 01:36:57.239 to the FBI. The FBI is able to take the 1673 01:36:57.319 --> 01:37:02.000 picture and CSI and hands it zoom zoom, zoom zoom. 1674 01:37:02.600 --> 01:37:04.960 They get a pretty good look at this guy. 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The driver appeared to be very nervous and 1713 01:38:49.199 --> 01:38:54.920 handed police a fake driver's license, while at the same time, 1714 01:38:55.119 --> 01:38:58.039 there was a little canine pup in the car. And 1715 01:38:58.239 --> 01:39:03.039 he gets out, and this canine dog is police dog. Officer. 1716 01:39:03.279 --> 01:39:09.720 Puppy Face begins barking wildly at a suitcase that appears 1717 01:39:09.760 --> 01:39:13.399 to be in the back seat the car. The officers 1718 01:39:14.039 --> 01:39:19.840 open up the bag and find one point eight million 1719 01:39:20.119 --> 01:39:26.079 million dollars. This man has a suitcase full of cash 1720 01:39:26.520 --> 01:39:29.279 in his car, The driver turned out to be a 1721 01:39:29.359 --> 01:39:34.159 man named William Arthur Kirkpatrick, which is weirdly a really 1722 01:39:34.399 --> 01:39:40.119 good like strong name. Arthur kirk Kirkpatrick, Kirkpatrick kerr K 1723 01:39:40.359 --> 01:39:44.760 I r K so not Kirk's but kirk Patrick Kirkpatrick 1724 01:39:45.479 --> 01:39:49.439 one of two men that the FBI had dubbed quote 1725 01:39:50.039 --> 01:39:52.399 the trench coat robbers. 1726 01:39:53.680 --> 01:39:57.880 Okay, the trench coat robbers, yeah, unsolved, I. 1727 01:40:00.279 --> 01:40:05.319 The irony of it all, okay. So, with help from 1728 01:40:05.560 --> 01:40:10.880 Kirkpatrick's girlfriend, the FBI are able to identify and locate 1729 01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:16.960 the second man, Raymond Lewis Bowman. He was serving a 1730 01:40:17.159 --> 01:40:21.880 twenty four year prison sentence, but then died behind bars 1731 01:40:21.920 --> 01:40:26.760 in twenty eleven. Kirkpatrick pleads guilty and was sentenced to 1732 01:40:26.800 --> 01:40:30.079 fifteen years in prison. Has since been released. Cannot find 1733 01:40:30.119 --> 01:40:32.680 that he has committed any other crimes at least under 1734 01:40:32.760 --> 01:40:36.359 that name and been caught since then. Okay, I have 1735 01:40:36.479 --> 01:40:40.079 some side quest information that no one has asked for. 1736 01:40:40.439 --> 01:40:41.520 But I thought it was. 1737 01:40:41.680 --> 01:40:43.319 Crazy unless you went on your side. 1738 01:40:43.600 --> 01:40:45.039 Yes, so you don't want to listen to it, fine, 1739 01:40:45.399 --> 01:40:49.600 scroll ahead, I don't care, but use spend. Use that 1740 01:40:49.720 --> 01:40:51.800 skip button, but Ben doesn't have a skip button. 1741 01:40:51.920 --> 01:40:54.039 I don't say, and I would never want a skip 1742 01:40:54.119 --> 01:40:54.720 button for you. 1743 01:40:56.279 --> 01:40:58.319 Okay, first off, I'm going to give some credit where 1744 01:40:58.359 --> 01:41:03.680 credit is due. There was a post by someone named 1745 01:41:04.119 --> 01:41:10.000 Partners in Crime on a Reddit sub thread. They also 1746 01:41:10.159 --> 01:41:15.800 have a YouTube channel where she partners in Crime. I'm 1747 01:41:15.800 --> 01:41:20.079 gonna guess it's female because I only read her transcript. 1748 01:41:20.119 --> 01:41:23.680 I didn't go watch the YouTube of it. But she 1749 01:41:23.920 --> 01:41:28.000 gives us the story of the trench Coat Robbers in detail, 1750 01:41:28.720 --> 01:41:32.039 and so I'm going to read you her transcript. Vis 1751 01:41:32.239 --> 01:41:34.119 this is her writing, not mine. 1752 01:41:34.319 --> 01:41:37.199 One of her words. Yes, so her work. 1753 01:41:38.159 --> 01:41:43.600 William Arthur Billy Kirkpatrick was a notorious shoplifter back in 1754 01:41:43.680 --> 01:41:47.439 the nineteen seventies. Oh listen, it gets even better. He 1755 01:41:47.680 --> 01:41:56.000 was well known to boost record albums and boost meant Steele, 1756 01:41:56.520 --> 01:42:01.319 who would shoplift truckloads of recorded album and other goods 1757 01:42:01.640 --> 01:42:05.119 and then fenced it to a popular record store in 1758 01:42:05.319 --> 01:42:10.399 Kansas City named Tiger Records. Tiger Records, turns out, was 1759 01:42:10.439 --> 01:42:14.399 a well known for always having the latest albums which 1760 01:42:14.520 --> 01:42:19.079 sold for ridiculously below market value, up to seventy five 1761 01:42:19.119 --> 01:42:23.399 percent off where other retailers were selling it. And then Tiger, 1762 01:42:23.680 --> 01:42:26.640 the owner of Tiger Records turned out to be part 1763 01:42:26.720 --> 01:42:32.079 of the Italian mafia and had several stable record boosters, 1764 01:42:32.680 --> 01:42:38.279 So that is William the mafia is stealing records for 1765 01:42:38.600 --> 01:42:44.000 the mob. So Tiger always had a long list of albums, watches, 1766 01:42:44.199 --> 01:42:48.800 tennis rackets, and leather coats, among other things he needed, 1767 01:42:48.880 --> 01:42:52.239 and he would ask William Kirkpatrick and several other. 1768 01:42:52.199 --> 01:42:54.800 People, this is funny that a mob guy was selling 1769 01:42:54.880 --> 01:42:58.560 tennis rackets. I agree, which it was part of a racket. 1770 01:42:58.279 --> 01:43:01.239 Which was part of a racket. He stole my literally 1771 01:43:01.319 --> 01:43:05.359 my shoke I had that written, which was kind of 1772 01:43:05.479 --> 01:43:16.600 a racket. I'm so proud of myself, I know, oh 1773 01:43:16.960 --> 01:43:19.560 my gosh, okay, which was kind of a racket. 1774 01:43:19.600 --> 01:43:19.920 All right. 1775 01:43:20.399 --> 01:43:25.319 So they would always so they would go with their 1776 01:43:25.359 --> 01:43:29.399 personal vehicles and fill them up with these shoplifted items 1777 01:43:29.560 --> 01:43:33.479 drop them off at Tigers. During one of those deliveries, 1778 01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:39.039 Kirkpatrick runs into one of his lifelong buddies, Ray Bowman, 1779 01:43:39.520 --> 01:43:43.520 who also had gotten into the business of being a 1780 01:43:43.720 --> 01:43:45.560 booster for Tiger. 1781 01:43:46.239 --> 01:43:49.119 So at this point this is not for Tiger, for 1782 01:43:49.239 --> 01:43:49.920 the mob. 1783 01:43:52.399 --> 01:43:56.560 In Kansas City, Missouri, of all freaking places, all right, 1784 01:43:56.800 --> 01:43:59.039 So Kirkpatrick and Bowman. Yeah, this is why I had 1785 01:43:59.079 --> 01:44:02.399 to tell you this. I'm so grateful for partners in 1786 01:44:02.479 --> 01:44:07.720 crime for like giving us this deep dive, because it's ridiculous. Okay. 1787 01:44:08.039 --> 01:44:11.319 So Kirkpatrick and Bowman had known each other for quite 1788 01:44:11.359 --> 01:44:13.920 a long time and it didn't take him long for 1789 01:44:14.079 --> 01:44:17.159 them to start getting into cahoots with each other. So 1790 01:44:17.479 --> 01:44:20.199 Bowman was a big spender. He liked to dress an 1791 01:44:20.279 --> 01:44:25.520 expensive clothing, splurge on club girls in quotations, so we 1792 01:44:25.600 --> 01:44:29.039 all know what that means. Here's the best part. He 1793 01:44:29.199 --> 01:44:33.479 also had a taste for cocaine and limousines, as one does. 1794 01:44:35.119 --> 01:44:38.239 Limousines. Who gets such. 1795 01:44:38.079 --> 01:44:41.399 An age thing like into limousines, isn't it. 1796 01:44:42.600 --> 01:44:44.119 He probably wore a white shuit. 1797 01:44:44.279 --> 01:44:47.239 I can only imagine this, and I bet there was 1798 01:44:47.319 --> 01:44:51.720 chest hair and a gold necklace and for sure okay. 1799 01:44:53.239 --> 01:44:56.960 And he loved to spend take his friends out to 1800 01:44:57.199 --> 01:45:00.479 thousand dollars dinners. I wouldn't mind and like that in 1801 01:45:00.560 --> 01:45:04.800 my life. So with Kirkpatrick also now being kind of 1802 01:45:04.920 --> 01:45:07.720 drawn to life in the fast lane, it didn't take 1803 01:45:07.800 --> 01:45:10.840 long for them to graduate from boosting stuff for the 1804 01:45:10.960 --> 01:45:16.680 Italian mob to bank robberies. After the first few bank robberies. 1805 01:45:16.760 --> 01:45:20.319 They soon perfected their craft. They were very careful. They 1806 01:45:20.600 --> 01:45:23.600 resided in separate states to make it difficult for police 1807 01:45:23.640 --> 01:45:26.239 to connect between the two. They always traveled to a 1808 01:45:26.319 --> 01:45:29.239 different location for their next target. They never robbed any 1809 01:45:29.359 --> 01:45:33.239 bank near or close to any of their locations or homes. 1810 01:45:33.600 --> 01:45:36.840 They spent months blending in with locals while staking out 1811 01:45:36.880 --> 01:45:40.000 and targeting the bank. They carefully planned their heights. They 1812 01:45:40.039 --> 01:45:45.399 were armed with guns, wigs, fake beards, sunglasses, gloves, and 1813 01:45:45.560 --> 01:45:49.399 several other disguises. Kirkpatrick and Bowman were always successful with 1814 01:45:49.479 --> 01:45:52.479 each heights thanks to their careful planning and disguises. Still, 1815 01:45:53.159 --> 01:45:56.680 one thing they always consistent in every robbery is that 1816 01:45:56.800 --> 01:46:02.399 they were wearing trench oats. The FBI had no clue 1817 01:46:02.439 --> 01:46:06.399 who they were, but they dubbed them the trenchcoat bank robbers. 1818 01:46:07.319 --> 01:46:10.119 And in nineteen ninety seven, fifty seven year old Kirkpatrick 1819 01:46:10.159 --> 01:46:13.000 and fifty three year old Bowmen set out to land 1820 01:46:13.439 --> 01:46:17.199 the final score that they always do. 1821 01:46:17.439 --> 01:46:20.279 Technically, well, this was up. 1822 01:46:20.239 --> 01:46:22.840 In Washington, so this is not even like having to 1823 01:46:22.920 --> 01:46:25.159 do with Nevada. So they check into a local hotel 1824 01:46:25.199 --> 01:46:30.239 in Tacoma, Washington. They spend tons of time eating at 1825 01:46:30.319 --> 01:46:35.359 the finest restaurants, even becoming regulars like at piano bars. 1826 01:46:35.479 --> 01:46:39.720 They attend like high end concerts, and they carefully are 1827 01:46:39.840 --> 01:46:44.760 surveying the Sea First Bank of Lakewood and pre highest 1828 01:46:44.800 --> 01:46:47.920 activities lasted for a month. Finally they figured out the 1829 01:46:48.000 --> 01:46:52.079 bank always collected a large amount of cash on payday 1830 01:46:52.159 --> 01:46:56.920 from a nearby army base and Indio Indian casino that 1831 01:46:57.760 --> 01:47:01.399 banked with these people, and the exit cash of branches 1832 01:47:01.600 --> 01:47:05.880 of the other c First banks. So the day came 1833 01:47:05.960 --> 01:47:10.079 around February tenth, nineteen ninety seven. Using a master key 1834 01:47:10.399 --> 01:47:15.640 that he had crafted himself, Kirkpatrick steals a brand new 1835 01:47:15.760 --> 01:47:19.520 jeep Cherokee Jeep of which they use to drive to 1836 01:47:19.760 --> 01:47:25.039 the bank. So they dress in FBI hats, sunglasses and 1837 01:47:25.079 --> 01:47:28.880 gloves and of course trench coats, and they even put 1838 01:47:28.920 --> 01:47:35.199 an earpiece in with attached to a police scanner. So 1839 01:47:35.600 --> 01:47:40.600 long story short, they go in, they are able to leave. 1840 01:47:40.960 --> 01:47:44.000 They fill up duffel bags with four million dollars in 1841 01:47:44.159 --> 01:47:48.119 cash weighing three hundred and fifty pounds. The FBI floods 1842 01:47:48.199 --> 01:47:51.880 the city. They do roadblocks, searching every motel in the vicinity. 1843 01:47:52.079 --> 01:47:55.039 Like they find the getaway car had been wiped down 1844 01:47:56.039 --> 01:47:58.640 and like no prints and these two men, the trench 1845 01:47:58.680 --> 01:48:02.680 Coat robbers, are nowhere to be found. They're gone. Kirkpatrick 1846 01:48:02.720 --> 01:48:06.680 and Bowman had moved south, checked into a motel in Portland, Oregon, 1847 01:48:07.239 --> 01:48:10.560 split the cash in half, gave each other a high five, 1848 01:48:10.720 --> 01:48:13.239 and headed home, using two different routes to get back 1849 01:48:13.239 --> 01:48:14.079 across the country. 1850 01:48:16.199 --> 01:48:17.600 There's the thing, as long as. 1851 01:48:19.479 --> 01:48:21.479 It's hard to say what I think you're gonna say 1852 01:48:21.479 --> 01:48:24.079 it because I think emotionally there's a lot of damage done. 1853 01:48:24.119 --> 01:48:25.239 Is that what you were going to say is like 1854 01:48:26.239 --> 01:48:28.880 they didn't hurt anybody in these No one was killed. 1855 01:48:29.600 --> 01:48:31.840 Yes, I don't know. I've never looked into the guys. 1856 01:48:32.239 --> 01:48:34.520 It doesn't seem that they ever murdered anybody. No one 1857 01:48:34.640 --> 01:48:37.560 was ever physically harmed in these robberies. 1858 01:48:37.880 --> 01:48:40.239 I don't know. Man, that's wild. 1859 01:48:40.800 --> 01:48:42.479 This is okay. I know that this is not part 1860 01:48:42.479 --> 01:48:44.279 of the Unsolved mystories, but when I was reading this, 1861 01:48:44.399 --> 01:48:48.119 I was like, this is incredibly fascinating. We are a 1862 01:48:48.159 --> 01:48:49.159 true crime podcast. 1863 01:48:49.439 --> 01:48:53.479 It's wild and crazy to me because you don't hear 1864 01:48:55.319 --> 01:48:56.960 of crimes like that, and I. 1865 01:48:56.960 --> 01:48:59.800 Think it's easy when there's like no one was physically 1866 01:49:00.119 --> 01:49:03.079 hurt it definitely gives you and this and they weren't 1867 01:49:03.119 --> 01:49:05.000 turning around in USA doing a lot of good things 1868 01:49:05.079 --> 01:49:07.359 with this money either, but they weren't also doing terrible 1869 01:49:07.800 --> 01:49:10.520 you know what, it's very kind of Robin hoodish in 1870 01:49:10.840 --> 01:49:11.239 a way. 1871 01:49:12.960 --> 01:49:16.039 You kidnapped a lady and the one and that was 1872 01:49:16.920 --> 01:49:21.560 that like extremely traumatizing. Yeah, they wanted to be taken 1873 01:49:21.680 --> 01:49:23.000 by gun put in the back of. 1874 01:49:23.000 --> 01:49:26.920 Italy, a lot of terrible things to be like, well, 1875 01:49:27.439 --> 01:49:29.119 I just this is fascinating to me. 1876 01:49:29.199 --> 01:49:32.319 I think I do that it's an interesting story of 1877 01:49:32.560 --> 01:49:37.640 just because you don't hear what you're reading sounds like 1878 01:49:37.720 --> 01:49:41.960 a movie. Yes, like we have watched like Ocean's eleven 1879 01:49:42.039 --> 01:49:45.800 and that, like yes, and you just don't think criminals 1880 01:49:45.840 --> 01:49:49.960 are really that that well thought out and that patient. 1881 01:49:50.079 --> 01:49:53.079 I had to start out with the mob or the mafia, 1882 01:49:53.319 --> 01:49:54.880 like it's an extent. 1883 01:49:55.039 --> 01:49:55.199 Yeah. 1884 01:49:55.720 --> 01:49:59.079 So they each ended up with well over two million dollars. 1885 01:49:59.079 --> 01:50:02.119 So the Transgrope made history because at that point they 1886 01:50:02.159 --> 01:50:04.920 had pulled off the largest bank rubbery in the United 1887 01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:09.720 States and technically had gotten away with it. But this 1888 01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:14.399 is where the problem is. All of that cash eventually 1889 01:50:14.479 --> 01:50:19.600 becomes somebody's undoing because how do you spend that kind 1890 01:50:19.640 --> 01:50:22.279 of money without any record, especially in the kind of 1891 01:50:22.720 --> 01:50:25.600 the more digital aid age that they're starting to get into, 1892 01:50:25.960 --> 01:50:31.720 right Facebook marketplace, you start laundering money through Facebook marketplace. 1893 01:50:32.119 --> 01:50:35.000 I did actually see side quest from our side Quest 1894 01:50:35.439 --> 01:50:37.960 saw this lady walking around an antique store that she 1895 01:50:38.239 --> 01:50:41.079 was like, how is this place in business? Because like 1896 01:50:41.239 --> 01:50:43.760 everything in the antique store started at like one thousand 1897 01:50:43.800 --> 01:50:46.399 dollars and like went up. It was like twenty thousand 1898 01:50:46.439 --> 01:50:49.319 dollars for these things. And I commented on the thing, 1899 01:50:49.399 --> 01:50:51.800 and I was like, I'm not saying that I would 1900 01:50:51.840 --> 01:50:56.359 launder money by owning a ridiculously overpriced antique store, but 1901 01:50:56.479 --> 01:51:00.720 I'm also not saying that wouldn't be awesome. So there's 1902 01:51:00.760 --> 01:51:02.079 a business thought for you. 1903 01:51:02.359 --> 01:51:05.840 You gotta think because an antique store, your records is 1904 01:51:05.960 --> 01:51:07.199 that someone brought the. 1905 01:51:07.239 --> 01:51:10.600 Senity, you sold it yep, yep, and that then you 1906 01:51:10.840 --> 01:51:14.359 then sold it for ten thousand dollars. 1907 01:51:14.439 --> 01:51:18.560 Yeah that's hey, business cats, just give us a kickback. 1908 01:51:18.720 --> 01:51:19.960 Hi, uncle Laser. 1909 01:51:20.039 --> 01:51:23.199 Here. 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So Kirkpatrick gives his girlfriend 1937 01:52:30.600 --> 01:52:34.439 one hundred and eighty eight thousand dollars in cash to 1938 01:52:34.560 --> 01:52:39.359 pay for a cabin that they were purchasing in rural Minnesota. 1939 01:52:40.880 --> 01:52:43.920 So she puts the cash in brown paper bags and 1940 01:52:44.159 --> 01:52:48.399 just hands it over to the builder. Okay, so Michael 1941 01:52:48.600 --> 01:52:52.960 who is building this house and is holding bags of cash, 1942 01:52:54.199 --> 01:53:00.239 him and the girlfriend get into a heated argument because 1943 01:53:00.239 --> 01:53:04.319 they disagreed about some final touches in a highly customized cabin. 1944 01:53:04.840 --> 01:53:10.199 This one could not just like let this go, so 1945 01:53:10.319 --> 01:53:12.079 she starts a fight with a man that's holding a 1946 01:53:12.199 --> 01:53:17.600 bag of untraceable or like unverified money because I'm going 1947 01:53:17.640 --> 01:53:19.800 to guess this guy's like paying cash. I don't care. 1948 01:53:20.359 --> 01:53:23.039 The problem is she tipped off the wrong person. She 1949 01:53:23.199 --> 01:53:27.439 bit the hand that fetter, so he upset over the argument. 1950 01:53:28.279 --> 01:53:32.359 Besides to report the bag of cash to the IRS. 1951 01:53:33.399 --> 01:53:34.239 The builder. 1952 01:53:35.399 --> 01:53:39.600 Yeah, As a result, the IRS pays a visit to 1953 01:53:39.760 --> 01:53:44.760 the cabin and unfortunately these people are not able to 1954 01:53:44.960 --> 01:53:51.920 verify any source of income. So Kirkpatrick at the time 1955 01:53:52.920 --> 01:53:56.760 is there with his girlfriend and now the FBI is alerted. 1956 01:53:57.159 --> 01:54:01.439 So while the IRS is investigating Kirkpatrick and his girlfriend 1957 01:54:01.640 --> 01:54:06.399 in Minnesota, Ray makes a few silly mistakes of his own. First, 1958 01:54:06.479 --> 01:54:08.319 he forgot to pay the owner of a storage unit, 1959 01:54:08.399 --> 01:54:11.680 which how many times have we heard that where he 1960 01:54:12.039 --> 01:54:16.720 stashed a bunch of guns and disguises. So the owner 1961 01:54:16.840 --> 01:54:19.359 goes into the storage unit that had not been paid 1962 01:54:19.720 --> 01:54:23.199 and finds obviously these things and says that they're suspicious, 1963 01:54:23.479 --> 01:54:26.199 and he reports the storage unit to the AHF. The 1964 01:54:26.279 --> 01:54:30.640 ATF then puts a wiretap in Bowman's phone where they 1965 01:54:30.680 --> 01:54:35.239 heard suspicious conversation between Bowman and someone in Minnesota with 1966 01:54:35.399 --> 01:54:38.800 the IRS at his front door. Kirkpatrick panics. He stashes 1967 01:54:38.840 --> 01:54:41.920 the bulk of his cash from the robbery in a 1968 01:54:41.960 --> 01:54:45.760 safety deposit back box in Las Vegas, and while he 1969 01:54:45.920 --> 01:54:49.439 was afraid the authorities might discover the money, he drives 1970 01:54:49.960 --> 01:54:54.800 one seven hundred miles to the bank in Las Vegas 1971 01:54:54.880 --> 01:54:58.359 to retrieve the cash, only to get pulled over by 1972 01:54:58.479 --> 01:55:01.920 the state trooper on his his way back to Minnesota. 1973 01:55:03.439 --> 01:55:06.319 So does that make sense He's got to stash the 1974 01:55:06.399 --> 01:55:09.159 cash in Vegas? He drives to Vegas to go get it. 1975 01:55:09.319 --> 01:55:14.399 He's in a bank, it says, yep, that he had 1976 01:55:14.479 --> 01:55:17.439 in a safety deposit box, because it's not like city 1977 01:55:18.119 --> 01:55:20.319 in a bank account. No, it's in a deposit box. 1978 01:55:20.560 --> 01:55:24.399 He goes there a seventeen mile drive. Books are there. 1979 01:55:24.399 --> 01:55:26.079 Because the same if you walk into bank and says, 1980 01:55:26.119 --> 01:55:29.760 I need to withdraw one point eight million dollars the bank, 1981 01:55:29.800 --> 01:55:32.960 ga' mean like, sure, give me twenty minutes. 1982 01:55:33.119 --> 01:55:37.439 Yeah, as we make the bank do hey, FBI, I 1983 01:55:37.479 --> 01:55:38.960 think if even if you went in there with a 1984 01:55:39.079 --> 01:55:41.479 bunch of cash and said, I'd like to I'd. 1985 01:55:41.359 --> 01:55:44.000 Like to open depositing this. If they've been doing this 1986 01:55:44.079 --> 01:55:46.520 for over ten years, you have been depositing it, and 1987 01:55:46.560 --> 01:55:48.800 then you go like I need one by one point 1988 01:55:49.239 --> 01:55:56.359 in the bank's in to go, sure safety deposits. 1989 01:55:56.439 --> 01:56:00.199 Yeah. But on his way back to Minnesota, he it's 1990 01:56:00.199 --> 01:56:04.520 pulled over for driving seven miles over the speed moment. 1991 01:56:05.960 --> 01:56:10.239 That was a board cop and man, you shucks hit 1992 01:56:10.600 --> 01:56:12.920 the jack to the cop. 1993 01:56:12.840 --> 01:56:15.960 Hit the jackpote Yeah, absolutely, So he is caught with 1994 01:56:16.119 --> 01:56:20.920 a car filled to the brim with cash. So Kirkpatrick's 1995 01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:24.000 obviously on edge and didn't take long for state troopers 1996 01:56:24.039 --> 01:56:27.000 to notice. So after searching the vehicle for what they 1997 01:56:27.079 --> 01:56:30.800 assume is drug money, the state trooper also finds guns 1998 01:56:30.880 --> 01:56:35.119 and disguises a pair of foot lockers with the bulk 1999 01:56:35.159 --> 01:56:40.119 of Kirkpatrick's loot nearly two million dollars in cash. Wait, 2000 01:56:40.239 --> 01:56:42.880 a pair of what foot lockers? I don't know, I 2001 01:56:43.000 --> 01:56:47.520 thought as a cop like is that, Like, I don't 2002 01:56:47.560 --> 01:56:49.880 think it was shoes. It's not like the store. You 2003 01:56:49.920 --> 01:56:51.720 didn't have the store for well, the store. 2004 01:56:51.479 --> 01:56:55.000 Doesn't sell foot lockers. They sell shoes from different I 2005 01:56:55.000 --> 01:56:56.199 don't know anyways. 2006 01:56:57.039 --> 01:56:59.640 Okay, it said, and a pair of foot lockers. I'm 2007 01:56:59.640 --> 01:57:02.680 gonna guess that's the ankle things that you put that 2008 01:57:02.920 --> 01:57:05.880 as the cops put around people's ankles, they lock your feet, 2009 01:57:06.960 --> 01:57:10.800 they're foot lockers. What if I am right? Why what 2010 01:57:10.920 --> 01:57:13.119 I'm talking about? When you know when bad guys have 2011 01:57:13.439 --> 01:57:17.520 when they come into prison, you know, the actual chains 2012 01:57:17.640 --> 01:57:20.399 that go around their ankles and they connect their legs 2013 01:57:20.439 --> 01:57:24.319 together so they can't run away like shackles, shackles, they 2014 01:57:24.399 --> 01:57:25.520 call them foot lockers. 2015 01:57:26.199 --> 01:57:30.920 Really foot lockers. 2016 01:57:31.319 --> 01:57:33.560 It makes sense their feet are locked in place. 2017 01:57:35.199 --> 01:57:35.560 Just because. 2018 01:57:37.880 --> 01:57:46.680 Okay, so he had foot lockers on him. Okay, so 2019 01:57:46.880 --> 01:57:52.119 he's obviously immediately arrested, all right, and the state trooper 2020 01:57:52.159 --> 01:57:54.960 bless Us Heart has no idea at this point that 2021 01:57:55.079 --> 01:57:57.760 he has just nabbed one of the most infamous bank 2022 01:57:57.880 --> 01:58:01.880 robbers and part of a duo from the Trench Coke 2023 01:58:02.000 --> 01:58:04.479 bank Croppers and is high up on the FBI's Most 2024 01:58:04.560 --> 01:58:09.199 Wantedless so his girlfriend comes to the courthouse with William 2025 01:58:09.239 --> 01:58:12.640 Kerbretrick in jail. She's arrested and charged on the spot 2026 01:58:12.680 --> 01:58:17.399 for conspiracy. Searching their cabin, they also uncover a picture 2027 01:58:17.439 --> 01:58:20.800 of Ray Bowman and his family inside the cabin. Warrens 2028 01:58:20.800 --> 01:58:23.079 are then issued for a search of Bowman's house, which 2029 01:58:23.119 --> 01:58:26.960 they undercover more evidence that he had four hundred and 2030 01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:31.000 eighty thousand in cash that is still bundled with the 2031 01:58:31.119 --> 01:58:35.520 c first bankrappers on them. So the FBI, having all 2032 01:58:35.640 --> 01:58:37.960 the evidence they could ever want a grand jury, immediately 2033 01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:41.800 indicts the trench coat robbers, obviously seeing no way out 2034 01:58:41.840 --> 01:58:45.439 of this, Like Peggy asks her boyfriend to tell the truth. 2035 01:58:45.479 --> 01:58:48.079 He admits to the crime. So he pleads guilty to 2036 01:58:48.239 --> 01:58:51.720 four out of twenty eight bankrupts. The FBI connected him too, 2037 01:58:52.479 --> 01:58:54.159 but he can only be charged with three of them 2038 01:58:54.199 --> 01:58:57.399 because statue of limitations had started to run out on 2039 01:58:57.479 --> 01:58:59.600 some of these bank robberies. I love that there was 2040 01:58:59.680 --> 01:59:03.319 twenty eight. He says, I'll take you for four, and 2041 01:59:03.439 --> 01:59:05.680 then it turns out, okay, I can only take you 2042 01:59:05.760 --> 01:59:07.920 for three because of statue of limitations. Can't they have 2043 01:59:08.000 --> 01:59:10.760 Popland and the other robberies. I don't know those are 2044 01:59:10.840 --> 01:59:15.600 just questions ahead. Thus he has sentenced to fifteen years 2045 01:59:15.680 --> 01:59:18.319 and eight months in prison, and after that he served 2046 01:59:18.359 --> 01:59:21.359 his full sentence and is released. On the other hand, 2047 01:59:22.079 --> 01:59:24.840 Bowman didn't fare so well in prison because he got 2048 01:59:24.880 --> 01:59:29.600 a twenty four year sentence and didn't make it out alive. 2049 01:59:30.159 --> 01:59:32.560 So a foot locker is a chest. 2050 01:59:33.399 --> 01:59:36.760 It's a chest, yeah, you like at the end the Pirates. 2051 01:59:37.159 --> 01:59:39.680 It's just it's just a box you put at the 2052 01:59:39.760 --> 01:59:40.239 end of the bed. 2053 01:59:40.439 --> 01:59:42.039 Why would you call it a foot Oh, it's a 2054 01:59:42.119 --> 01:59:43.720 locker at the foot of the bed. 2055 01:59:45.079 --> 01:59:45.439 Nailed it. 2056 01:59:47.880 --> 01:59:53.039 I like mine better. When I was like reading and 2057 01:59:53.079 --> 01:59:56.119 writing this, I just assumed that's what a foot locker was. 2058 01:59:56.199 --> 02:00:00.520 That he just had some he had some chef in 2059 02:00:00.560 --> 02:00:02.840 the back and what you got there? 2060 02:00:03.640 --> 02:00:04.920 And he's like, it's a foot locker. 2061 02:00:05.039 --> 02:00:07.800 Obviously, obviously you lock your foot up. 2062 02:00:08.560 --> 02:00:13.439 You're just one. This is how my brain works. And 2063 02:00:13.600 --> 02:00:17.039 I just literally just I would have never questioned this. 2064 02:00:19.680 --> 02:00:20.600 Just lock that one. 2065 02:00:21.239 --> 02:00:23.800 It's because it's turning two feet into one their locker. 2066 02:00:25.920 --> 02:00:28.000 All right, this is starting to go off the rails. 2067 02:00:28.039 --> 02:00:28.319 Guys. 2068 02:00:28.319 --> 02:00:31.239 Okay, that is our recap. I am so sorry. We're 2069 02:00:31.239 --> 02:00:36.199 almost two hours of reporting time. I know, Okay, I 2070 02:00:36.640 --> 02:00:38.079 had a question. Ben and I were going to talk 2071 02:00:38.119 --> 02:00:41.239 about the possibility and theories of time travel. I don't 2072 02:00:41.640 --> 02:00:45.399 think we have it in us for that tonight, So Ben, 2073 02:00:46.000 --> 02:00:51.000 let's see why don't you tell me? Oh yeah, I 2074 02:00:51.000 --> 02:00:52.079 guess If you don't want to hang out for a 2075 02:00:52.159 --> 02:00:54.720 question time with Ben, feel free to exit stage right 2076 02:00:55.039 --> 02:01:00.199 now and then for the rest of everybody, Ben, what's 2077 02:01:00.239 --> 02:01:03.000 a simple question I can ask, what's something you're looking 2078 02:01:03.079 --> 02:01:07.439 forward to this summer? Anything on the radar? 2079 02:01:09.439 --> 02:01:19.760 Anything on the radar? Uh, I always enjoyed, Like I mean, 2080 02:01:19.960 --> 02:01:24.239 Arizona summer suck. But yes, the only good thing that 2081 02:01:24.319 --> 02:01:26.800 we get at Arizona is it gets hot enough to 2082 02:01:27.319 --> 02:01:32.439 hang out in the pool. And we usually for us 2083 02:01:32.560 --> 02:01:34.840 as a family, we have a pool in our backyard. 2084 02:01:34.920 --> 02:01:38.119 And before you think that's like big bougie, it's pretty 2085 02:01:38.199 --> 02:01:42.359 common in Arizona, Like a lot of houses have pools. 2086 02:01:43.000 --> 02:01:47.800 Yeah, but we also have a lot of We do it, Brad, So. 2087 02:01:49.000 --> 02:01:53.960 It's h Yeah, it's And I've been getting the pool 2088 02:01:54.039 --> 02:01:57.600 cleaned up and getting it ready and we always have 2089 02:01:57.720 --> 02:02:01.920 a couple of days. We're just as a family. We've 2090 02:02:01.960 --> 02:02:05.520 got a big speaker. We put out there, get some 2091 02:02:05.640 --> 02:02:10.279 country music playing. Sierra it's not a big swimmer, but 2092 02:02:10.399 --> 02:02:15.479 she loves to layout and hang out in the layout 2093 02:02:15.520 --> 02:02:17.720 in the sun, and me and the kids play in 2094 02:02:17.800 --> 02:02:20.920 the pool. And I love those days where we don't 2095 02:02:20.920 --> 02:02:24.039 really have a whole lot going on. We just have 2096 02:02:24.199 --> 02:02:27.439 good food and we play some music and we swim 2097 02:02:27.520 --> 02:02:30.800 in the pool. It's kind of like our kickoff to summer. 2098 02:02:31.039 --> 02:02:31.880 Yeah, and. 2099 02:02:33.720 --> 02:02:35.680 Hang out in the hot tub, hang out in the pool, 2100 02:02:36.720 --> 02:02:38.520 And I like those days. 2101 02:02:38.680 --> 02:02:42.279 Yeah, They're a lot of fun, you know, just kind. 2102 02:02:42.159 --> 02:02:44.760 Of care free. It's it's great. 2103 02:02:45.000 --> 02:02:49.039 There are wonderful days, and I have really fond memories 2104 02:02:49.119 --> 02:02:53.199 of It's we don't you know, because usually even once 2105 02:02:53.239 --> 02:02:53.960 summer gets. 2106 02:02:53.800 --> 02:02:54.920 Going on, these kids are busy. 2107 02:02:55.039 --> 02:02:58.319 So obviously our kids only get several weeks of summer here. 2108 02:02:58.479 --> 02:03:02.680 The school we're in is very short, very short summers. 2109 02:03:03.960 --> 02:03:06.760 But and it's so hot that like a lot of 2110 02:03:07.000 --> 02:03:10.520 normal outdoor activities we don't really get to participate in here, 2111 02:03:10.600 --> 02:03:12.600 we do them now. Like last night I was at 2112 02:03:13.079 --> 02:03:16.239 an outdoor concert and like we were in jeans and 2113 02:03:16.279 --> 02:03:18.720 a T shirt and it was warm, like it felt 2114 02:03:18.720 --> 02:03:21.920 like the fourth of July last night, where it wasn't it. 2115 02:03:22.079 --> 02:03:22.800 It's nice weather. 2116 02:03:23.039 --> 02:03:25.720 Yeah, and so to be able to get to do 2117 02:03:25.880 --> 02:03:30.640 that is and yeah, we just I always tell people like, 2118 02:03:30.800 --> 02:03:34.239 it gets kind of almost weirdly depressing here in the 2119 02:03:34.279 --> 02:03:36.880 summer because we spend like two and a half three 2120 02:03:36.920 --> 02:03:39.439 months almost inside ninety percent of the time. 2121 02:03:39.680 --> 02:03:42.920 So everyone says, like, Arizona, you spend your inside time 2122 02:03:43.000 --> 02:03:43.560 in the summer. 2123 02:03:43.680 --> 02:03:46.960 Yeah, we spend our outside time in fall winter. I mean, 2124 02:03:47.640 --> 02:03:50.880 we do get a lot of outside time because but 2125 02:03:50.960 --> 02:03:51.760 it just feels. 2126 02:03:51.520 --> 02:03:54.199 Weird when everyone else is like barbecuing and traveling and 2127 02:03:54.279 --> 02:03:57.079 doing all these things. And literally we are at some 2128 02:03:57.199 --> 02:04:00.239 days one hundred and fifteen, we're trying to find indoor stuff. Yeah, 2129 02:04:00.399 --> 02:04:02.960 and it's because the heat here can be life threatening. 2130 02:04:03.079 --> 02:04:05.600 It can people die every year from it. So to 2131 02:04:05.760 --> 02:04:09.119 have days where we have no other major responsibilities, the 2132 02:04:09.239 --> 02:04:12.800 kids don't have twenty places to be, everyone's home and stuff, 2133 02:04:12.960 --> 02:04:16.079 and it's early afternoon, it's like, listen, let's make some 2134 02:04:16.199 --> 02:04:19.720 good food, let's turn on some music, and let's just 2135 02:04:19.840 --> 02:04:21.960 hang out and play in the pool is fun. I 2136 02:04:22.239 --> 02:04:28.119 enjoy pool activities. I just don't enjoy splashing activities. And 2137 02:04:28.159 --> 02:04:29.840 so when you guys get in the pool, Ben turns 2138 02:04:29.880 --> 02:04:32.960 into a fourteen year old and it's like me and 2139 02:04:33.039 --> 02:04:36.640 the kids play games. 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