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Speaker 1: Already we are back, ready to roll, still standing. I

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feel like I gotta work on my stamina because I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I think the limit for me is like hour and

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a half podcast. That's when it's getting That's when it's

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getting rough. Yeah, OK, because is your yours isn't like

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one of those big crank ones. It looked like it

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was a pretty easy incline, right, It's uh.

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Speaker 1: It's digital. So I made like two settings. So there's

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like a sitting mode and a standing mode.

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Speaker 2: So oh yeah, I gotta do that. There's a I

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don't know how to program that on this one, but

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Speaker 1: I don't remember. I feel like I did it, and

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I threw out the instructions and I'm like, I probably

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need these at some point. Yeah, no, I'm keeping this height. Yeah,

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we'll find out what my limit is. It might be

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in this episode. We we might find out it might

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just collapse. I feel like I need like a fatigue Matt. Also,

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I have one of those in my kitchen and stuff

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that's like I must have that's a good point, or

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shoes or something. I'm just kind of on my my

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vinyl floor. But I digress. Okay, the big juicy uh well,

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one of the big juicy heads. That is our topics tonight.

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I'm thinking about Mount Rushmore now, So I'm just I

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got the head visual going on. Dylan, you and I

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both played and enjoyed some hell Divers in our day.

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I don't know if we played together. Actually no, I'm

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thinking about it. I've always flaked out whenever.

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Speaker 2: You were a one kind of guy, right, Yeah, you

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jumped in with the g V boys on a night

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I couldn't, and then you just kind of haven't played

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again because he played it when it came out closer.

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Speaker 1: To Yeah, I do you want to get back in there?

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saying Hell Divers is going to be on the big

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screen without a joystick in my hand. Who isn't that

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kind of crazy or a joystick in my hand? Who knows?

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Interactive didn't? Was it Bandersnatch? That was the one that

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Speaker 2: People might have a TV remote that has a joystick.

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I don't, but some person might.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure. I guarantee somebody has the program something so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at least one person.

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Speaker 1: Yeah whatever, But yeah, No, there is supposedly a Hill

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Divers movie coming from Sony, and my air quotes say

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that it's been confirmed, which is pretty crazy. We even

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have a director, We even have a writer of the script.

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Trek and Fast and Furious. I don't know if that's

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all the Star Treks. I'm gonna pull that up and

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I get looking here, let me yeah and then thank you.

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And then for the writer, we got Gary Doberman, who

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famously did it again just just one it. I don't

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know if that's all of them or not, but and

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right now. And also the Conjuring Universe films, which is

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makes sense to have some well known especially you know,

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looking at the director's plethora of work. Amongst those two,

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it just seems like there's a good level of humor

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as well as action and involved and that's kind of

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exactly what I would want out of a Hell Divers movie.

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some some in some universe there was maybe just some

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crazy character driven Oscar nominated script of like in the

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Hell Divers universe. But for just the first project, like now,

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the propaganda like join up for the Earth Defense Force,

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you know, well, we'll get there when we get there.

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Speaker 1: Ok? I always thought there was two, but let me

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because I still have never seen Starship Troopers. But obviously

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everyone always like says hell divers is just yeah that

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knockoff of that. In concepts, this feels like a funny

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game of telephone now where it's like there's Starship Troopers

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idea of that, and now we're doing a movie which

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feels like, I don't know the the following that chain,

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that line is is pretty straightforward in the sense, so like,

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movie format, which is something that we always debate when

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it comes to video games and translating them to movies,

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as games are typically a lot longer than movies. So

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it's like, how do you take this story? Do you

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just take the world and like extrap like a news

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story out of it. Do you try and condense that.

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even though it's a game that has a lot of

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story in Hell Divers too anyway. It's more just like

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set dressing and like, you know, setting the scene so

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on this planet, core or whatever. There's a couple of

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and it wasn't a first party game. It was like

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a second party game for them. But they're obviously you know,

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this into a movie status, and yeah, I guess I

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of the big screen, but also on chart had already

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happened Horizons getting a show, deth S Randing's getting into show,

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God of Wars getting to TV. It's hard for me

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just feel like there's other things I would rather see.

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even know, but like, I feel like there's other ip

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have the box office for those things? Now?

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which was one hundred and twenty one point one million

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dollars off of one hundred and five million dollar budget,

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so barely scratch of the surface. So I'm definitely not doubling,

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marketing wise. And I didn't know this at all, but

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but there's just a lot of Starship Trooper content out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought there was like multiple projects afterwards.

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out two thousand and four. Starship Troopers two, Hero the Federation.

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Speaker 2: Are spamming them. But it's been a long as time

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since there's actually been one in theaters, and so obviously

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box office and the theater experience is a lot different than

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it was. So how do you think this is gonna do? Like,

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is this gonna be a big success of they're gonna

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someone that we really recognized that would just fit in

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that action hero role. I mean, you know, Sony just

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thinking about Sony projects, Like they've just say what you

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Speaker 2: Of the World, Tom Hardy's of the World.

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Speaker 1: Tom. Yeah, I won't forget you, buddy. So I don't

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for just like big exploding bugs and and all that.

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Speaker 2: It was like, I'm trying to think of there's like

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I feel like Jack Quaid, is Jack Quaid a gamer?

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Speaker 2: He could be a good fit because he's not doing

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similar Starship Troopers and like the Space Marine guy, Like

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it just seems like very similar type of project.

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Speaker 1: You think he would do Space Marine and then also

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start trip. Sure, why not it's not even called Stars

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Troopers anymore. I'm getting roped into all this history hell divers.

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There you go. I'm sure, I'm sure he's played some hell.

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Speaker 2: You got to take a bag when you can get

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a bag sometimes in Hollywood, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, absolutely. I mean he's not doing Wincher, so

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maybe he just wants to do video game stuff and

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we will go there. I'm totally down to get Henry

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cavill in there. I love that guy. That'd be a

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great fit. Also. I don't know, though, I feel like,

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you go, probably not this guy, but like just someone

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that's really that same energy, which is of course the

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the I was gonna say the great but the Blue

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Jake Suley don't even remember his actual right now, but

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just just that type of actor where you're just like

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you just look at him and be like, oh man,

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that guy in action movies put put it on me.

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Speaker 2: Whatever, generic, boring, good looking white that's who you.

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Speaker 1: Want as your hell diver. I mean, you know, you

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don't have to be a white guy. You can diversify.

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But I just a recognizable face, but not like such

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a name that it's like, holy, what about we got

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Leo in here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? What if we because obviously the director here justin

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Lynn so and I was looking at past and furious

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he's done like half of them, So that's like a lot.

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So what about what about that crop? Like I feel

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like Michelle Rodriguez could actually crush and.

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Speaker 1: Get her in there. Absolutely absolutely get her in there.

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I would yeah, absolutely, I don't know how to lead,

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but like I want her in the in like the crew.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I feel like you probably have a crew

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of like four, Like I think it's more ensemble than

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like following one person. But also a lot of people

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are probably dying off just randomly throughout this, but you

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probably have a core four.

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Speaker 1: I would think you need your cannon fodder. What else

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do you get in there? Danny Trejo? In there? You know?

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Speaker 2: Younger, although I don't know how old Michelle Rodrigue is,

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Like she could be like thirty, but she's probably like

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sixty three.

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Speaker 1: I'm she's forty seven, Okay, I was so often both

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direct looks amazing and she looks young. Yeah. Else do

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you god from the Fast franchise.

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Speaker 2: I'm just yeah, looking at the past, the most recent one,

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I mean, Charlie's Sarona is apparently in there. But I

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don't know if she would do be a good fit.

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I don't want I don't want Vin Diesel, John Cena.

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I feel like that's like his style of humor. I

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think John Cena. John Cena would Yeah, but is he too?

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Does he cost too much money? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Fast six. Who is in Fast six?

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of bigger names. I'm trying to think

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not too big, but just recognizable face to give that

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a google.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Jack Black's in every video game movie, so

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maybe he's in there.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be the lead.

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Speaker 2: I feel like a hmmm, yeah, I need to know

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who more like gamer people are. But I feel like

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there's a there's some potential here from this this crew

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that we're just kind of mentioned here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, absolutely, I got one more name. I just

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forgot the actor's name. But I know what he's in. Uh.

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I don't know how well he would fit. I mean

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the movie is kind of goofy humor, and he would fit,

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but I know he is a gamer. I'm going Ben

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Schwartz in here in the hell, okay, I could see

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that as well. Yeah, he could be not necessarily hell diver.

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Maybe he's a poorly qualified hell diver, but I just

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feel like I'm more in like the propaganda side, just

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like roping people in to sign up for democracy.

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Speaker 2: Give me, give me a James Marsen to just get

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the Sonic boys in there. In general, I think.

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Speaker 1: That Jim Carrey, you know, he's in there. He's playing

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a bug or something. He could be like on like

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the like the Terminator guys, like the Robots basically just

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Doctor Robotnik, but just just like the voice of a machine.

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Have you fought the robots yet? Or no?

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Speaker 2: The voice of a machine? Wait, who do you want?

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Is the voice of machine?

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Speaker 1: Jim Carrey?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, No, I don't think he's the vibe.

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Speaker 1: No, no, might be too expensive.

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Speaker 2: Also, there's like a certain humor here that's different than

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Jim Carrey I think. But I could be wrong, and

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he's obviously a great actor, He's got a lot of potential.

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But I do think that the combo here, justin Linn,

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seems like a really good director choice for this obviously

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big budget action movies. Cool, it's right up a star

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Trek is obviously similar sci fi kind of energy going

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on there and then the writer yes, obviously like has

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done it done conjuring universe stuff so different, more horror vibes.

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I think you do want there to be some horror,

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like there is a horror nest, a scariness too Hell

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Divers right when there's just thousands of bugs crawling around you.

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But obviously I think you want that humor side as well,

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that tone. I don't know if he's got that side

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of it, but I feel like I feel like most

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Hollywood writers could probably poop out a pretty decent Hell

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Divers script. So I think this is seems like a

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pretty good duo to me to come up with like

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a pretty solid enough, solid enough movie. Well, just I

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think the big thing will be the stars, because I

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think behind the camera it seems like they've got pretty

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pretty solid crew here. But I'm curious to see what

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they get for whether they go for the A listers,

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if they have the budget for that, or if they

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have to go for like the lower crop or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Regardless, though I am interested in the the ip

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enough to want to go watch it, and I mean

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I'm also massive Starship Troopers fan. I feel like that's

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a big reason why I even got the game in

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the first place. Yeah, was that reason. So yeah, exciting stuff.

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Hopefully it's a really solid video game movie, you know those.

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We're getting more video game movies than we did the

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birth of this podcast. Oh, it used to be few

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and far between. But uh, I like that we're getting more.

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I'm not gonna say to the quality of them, but

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we're getting more.

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Speaker 2: So this is specifically Sony. They're they're spamming this stuff.

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They also had until Dawn this year, which we didn't mention,

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but yeah, like they're just they're crushing it with the well,

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crushing it with quantity. I don't know follow quality, but.

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Speaker 1: I'm like until oh yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: They're making stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they are making stuff. That's the first step in

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making a a gold golden nugget of a film is

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just putting it out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't make a good movie if you don't

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make a movie. That's what I always say, you can

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make a bad movie. So uh, I think that you will.

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Uh anything else on Hell Divers No, No, nothing else

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for me.