Speaker 1: Already we are back, ready to roll, still standing. I
feel like I gotta work on my stamina because I'm like,
I'm like kind of stepping as I'm going. I feel
like I was. I was a little too stationary there
for a little bit. Maybe I was leaning too much
on one side. I was starting to feel a little
bit in my lower back.
Speaker 2: I think the limit for me is like hour and
a half podcast. That's when it's getting That's when it's
getting rough. Yeah, OK, because is your yours isn't like
one of those big crank ones. It looked like it
was a pretty easy incline, right, It's uh.
Speaker 1: It's digital. So I made like two settings. So there's
like a sitting mode and a standing mode.
Speaker 2: So oh yeah, I gotta do that. There's a I
don't know how to program that on this one, but
it has that setting.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I feel like I did it, and
I threw out the instructions and I'm like, I probably
need these at some point. Yeah, no, I'm keeping this height. Yeah,
we'll find out what my limit is. It might be
in this episode. We we might find out it might
just collapse. I feel like I need like a fatigue Matt. Also,
I have one of those in my kitchen and stuff
that's like I must have that's a good point, or
shoes or something. I'm just kind of on my my
vinyl floor. But I digress. Okay, the big juicy uh well,
one of the big juicy heads. That is our topics tonight.
I'm thinking about Mount Rushmore now, So I'm just I
got the head visual going on. Dylan, you and I
both played and enjoyed some hell Divers in our day.
I don't know if we played together. Actually no, I'm
thinking about it. I've always flaked out whenever.
Speaker 2: You were a one kind of guy, right, Yeah, you
jumped in with the g V boys on a night
I couldn't, and then you just kind of haven't played
again because he played it when it came out closer.
Speaker 1: To Yeah, I do you want to get back in there?
But who knows, Maybe the next time I'm gonna be
saying Hell Divers is going to be on the big
screen without a joystick in my hand. Who isn't that
kind of crazy or a joystick in my hand? Who knows?
Interactive didn't? Was it Bandersnatch? That was the one that
kind of did that or that was just Netflix have remote.
Speaker 2: People might have a TV remote that has a joystick.
I don't, but some person might.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I guarantee somebody has the program something so
they can use there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least one person.
Speaker 1: Yeah whatever, But yeah, No, there is supposedly a Hill
Divers movie coming from Sony, and my air quotes say
that it's been confirmed, which is pretty crazy. We even
have a director, We even have a writer of the script.
We got Justin Lynne to direct. He famously did Star
Trek and Fast and Furious. I don't know if that's
all the Star Treks. I'm gonna pull that up and
I get looking here, let me yeah and then thank you.
And then for the writer, we got Gary Doberman, who
famously did it again just just one it. I don't
know if that's all of them or not, but and
I'm assuming that's not the TV show that's going on
right now. And also the Conjuring Universe films, which is
some big ass franchises in there. I feel like it
makes sense to have some well known especially you know,
looking at the director's plethora of work. Amongst those two,
it just seems like there's a good level of humor
as well as action and involved and that's kind of
exactly what I would want out of a Hell Divers movie.
I wouldn't want it to be. I mean, you know, somewhere,
some some in some universe there was maybe just some
crazy character driven Oscar nominated script of like in the
Hell Divers universe. But for just the first project, like now,
I want to be basically a Starship Troopers knockoff, which
I always I always thought, uh, I feel like knockoff
is given it to too much of a negative to it.
But I first time I played Hell Divers, it just
seemed like it was in that magical element that is
Starship Troopers. There's just certain I don't even know what
you describe it as, whether it's like the humor or
just like the style. It's just it's just like patriotic
and it like core. Yeah yeah, I don't know how Yeah,
there you go. That's a good one. Just all like
the propaganda like join up for the Earth Defense Force,
you know, like that whole shebang is uh it just
it just it's such a great combination of action in comedy.
So as soon as I like boot into helld Average
and they have that great intro cut scene, like it's
just yeah, make a movie out of this, that this
would do so well. I feel like the game is
just blown up, so the popularity is there for demand.
I feel like it would do pretty decent numbers. But
you know, well, we'll get there when we get there.
But yeah, what do you think about this kind of
just first off, the cough off off, the cough offf
the cof h.
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, can you because I forgot to google this,
but can you look up like just box office wise
how Starship Troopers has done. And I feel like there's
probably at least two of those, right, like is there
a series?
Speaker 1: Oh man, there's many?
Speaker 2: Is there a bunch?
Speaker 1: Ok? I always thought there was two, but let me
get a total number here. Yeah, definitely at least like three,
oh okay three maybe more? Yeah, because I'm I'm curious
about that. I mean, yeah, it is funny that this
because I still have never seen Starship Troopers. But obviously
everyone always like says hell divers is just yeah that
knockoff of that. In concepts, this feels like a funny
game of telephone now where it's like there's Starship Troopers
and there's a game that kind of knocks off the
idea of that, and now we're doing a movie which
is just copying the game, I guess, So it just
feels like, I don't know the the following that chain,
that line is is pretty straightforward in the sense, so like,
obviously it's proven that it can work before in a
movie format, which is something that we always debate when
it comes to video games and translating them to movies,
as games are typically a lot longer than movies. So
it's like, how do you take this story? Do you
just take the world and like extrap like a news
story out of it. Do you try and condense that.
Do you go for a TV show route because then
you have more time to flesh out these characters?
Speaker 2: What kind of changes do you make? But this one,
even though it's a game that has a lot of
content in it, it takes you know, longer than one movie's
length to play through it all. Obviously the formula has
been done before, and there isn't really much of a
story in Hell Divers too anyway. It's more just like
set dressing and like, you know, setting the scene so
you kind of can just easily fill in create some
characters actually give them names, they do some story. They
got to go take out the big mother hive thing
on this planet, core or whatever. There's a couple of
smaller missions on the way. It just writes itself. It's
like pretty easy. So I think I don't really care
about this personally, Like I haven't seen Starship Troopers obviously,
so maybe you have to see that, Like oh, I
can't wait to see like a new version of that
pretty much through Hell Divers. But even like you know,
I like Hell Divers too. I'm having a good enough
time with it, but it's not one that I get
excited for as like, oh man, I can't wait to
see that on the big screen. I think it is interesting,
Like obviously this game is huge, a big deal for Sony,
and it wasn't a first party game. It was like
a second party game for them. But they're obviously you know,
this is coming from them, so they're kind of promoting
this into a movie status, and yeah, I guess I
just want to look at a bunch of other Sony things.
There's other properties I'd be more excited to see Turn
of the big screen, but also on chart had already
happened Horizons getting a show, deth S Randing's getting into show,
God of Wars getting to TV. It's hard for me
to remember these are shows or movies anymore. But I
just feel like there's other things I would rather see.
Like give me an animated ratching Clack movie, I'd be
more interested in that. Maybe that's already happened. I don't
even know, but like, I feel like there's other ip
that I would find more interesting for me personally. But
I do think this is okay. Well, actually, do you
have the box office for those things? Now?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do. Uh. For the first movie, which was
considered a box office disappointment, that's I expected worldwide gross,
which was one hundred and twenty one point one million
dollars off of one hundred and five million dollar budget,
so barely scratch of the surface. So I'm definitely not doubling,
which is kind of what you want to see for
marketing wise. And I didn't know this at all, but
there's quite a few like video games for Starship Troopers.
Like I knew about the the RTS and stuff like that,
but there's just a lot of Starship Trooper content out there.
So there's the movie, which was inspired off of the book.
The book released nineteen fifty nine. The original movie, which
I think is, yeah, it's just fantastic, highly recommend you
watch it, came out in nineteen ninety seven. It's just
Starship Troopers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought there was like multiple projects afterwards.
Speaker 1: Not so much there was.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it makes sense the first one
didn't do well at the box office.
Speaker 1: Then he'd yeah, that's actually your point. It doesn't usually
get a sequel. No, you're one hundred percent right. It's
just because like the cult following of it makes me
think of these movies were just massive, like the Star
Wars of their time. Clearly not the case. But so
the first one came out, and then television television film
which okay, I think that's just released on TV came
out two thousand and four. Starship Troopers two, Hero the Federation.
I think they brought back the same chap maybe not,
I don't remember his name, but a couple different characters
that were like removed, so I think i'd seen that
one maybe once, but hmm, but no more than that.
And then direct to video we got Starship Troopers three,
which definitely has the main chap In there from the original,
which is kind of funny, uh, And then that came
out twenty and eight, and then another direct to video,
which is Starship Troopers Invasion came out twenty twelve, and
then another direct to video which was Starship Troopers Trader
of Mars twenty So they really.
Speaker 2: Are spamming them. But it's been a long as time
since there's actually been one in theaters, and so obviously
box office and the theater experience is a lot different than
it was back in ninety seven. I think you said
it was. So how do you think this is gonna do? Like,
is this gonna be a big success of they're gonna
go for a list stars to be your main squad,
Like what's the strategy here? And does does this actually
like is this profitable for them?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I imagine we will see like a big name
I'm not gonna say an a list star, but just
someone that we really recognized that would just fit in
that action hero role. I mean, you know, Sony just
thinking about Sony projects, Like they've just say what you
will about the quality of the films. They usually have
just big names in their movies, whether it's the Lettos,
of the World, Aaron Taylor, Johnson's of the World, Dakota Johnson's.
Speaker 2: Of the World, Tom Hardy's of the World.
Speaker 1: Tom. Yeah, I won't forget you, buddy. So I don't
think they would do No Name, even though like that's
probably the best because that you could just be a
little bit lower on the budget, because imagine they're still
gonna have some some big budget prices in the movie
for just like big exploding bugs and and all that.
Jazz held out.
Speaker 2: It was like, I'm trying to think of there's like
an actor that I know is like a big gamer.
I feel like Jack Quaid, is Jack Quaid a gamer?
Like I could I could see him popping in.
Speaker 1: Probably he's kind of a young guy, right and he's
around our age. Uh yeah, that's probably a good guess.
I mean, Henry cavill is like the biggest of the gamers,
but he's of course, you know, attached to his Warhammer
forty K project.
Speaker 2: He could be a good fit because he's not doing
similar Starship Troopers and like the Space Marine guy, Like
it just seems like very similar type of project.
Speaker 1: You think he would do Space Marine and then also
start trip. Sure, why not it's not even called Stars
Troopers anymore. I'm getting roped into all this history hell divers.
There you go. I'm sure, I'm sure he's played some hell.
Speaker 2: You got to take a bag when you can get
a bag sometimes in Hollywood, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, absolutely. I mean he's not doing Wincher, so
maybe he just wants to do video game stuff and
we will go there. I'm totally down to get Henry
cavill in there. I love that guy. That'd be a
great fit. Also. I don't know, though, I feel like,
you go, probably not this guy, but like just someone
that's really that same energy, which is of course the
the I was gonna say the great but the Blue
Jake Suley don't even remember his actual right now, but
just just that type of actor where you're just like
you just look at him and be like, oh man,
that guy in action movies put put it on me.
Speaker 2: Whatever, generic, boring, good looking white that's who you.
Speaker 1: Want as your hell diver. I mean, you know, you
don't have to be a white guy. You can diversify.
But I just a recognizable face, but not like such
a name that it's like, holy, what about we got
Leo in here?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What if we because obviously the director here justin
Lynn so and I was looking at past and furious
he's done like half of them, So that's like a lot.
So what about what about that crop? Like I feel
like Michelle Rodriguez could actually crush and.
Speaker 1: Get her in there. Absolutely absolutely get her in there.
I would yeah, absolutely, I don't know how to lead,
but like I want her in the in like the crew.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I feel like you probably have a crew
of like four, Like I think it's more ensemble than
like following one person. But also a lot of people
are probably dying off just randomly throughout this, but you
probably have a core four.
Speaker 1: I would think you need your cannon fodder. What else
do you get in there? Danny Trejo? In there? You know?
Speaker 2: Younger, although I don't know how old Michelle Rodrigue is,
Like she could be like thirty, but she's probably like
sixty three.
Speaker 1: I'm she's forty seven, Okay, I was so often both
direct looks amazing and she looks young. Yeah. Else do
you god from the Fast franchise.
Speaker 2: I'm just yeah, looking at the past, the most recent one,
I mean, Charlie's Sarona is apparently in there. But I
don't know if she would do be a good fit.
I don't want I don't want Vin Diesel, John Cena.
I feel like that's like his style of humor. I
think John Cena. John Cena would Yeah, but is he too?
Does he cost too much money? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Fast six. Who is in Fast six?
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of bigger names. I'm trying to think
not too big, but just recognizable face to give that
a google.
Speaker 2: I mean, Jack Black's in every video game movie, so
maybe he's in there.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be the lead.
Speaker 2: I feel like a hmmm, yeah, I need to know
who more like gamer people are. But I feel like
there's a there's some potential here from this this crew
that we're just kind of mentioned here.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, absolutely, I got one more name. I just
forgot the actor's name. But I know what he's in. Uh.
I don't know how well he would fit. I mean
the movie is kind of goofy humor, and he would fit,
but I know he is a gamer. I'm going Ben
Schwartz in here in the hell, okay, I could see
that as well. Yeah, he could be not necessarily hell diver.
Maybe he's a poorly qualified hell diver, but I just
feel like I'm more in like the propaganda side, just
like roping people in to sign up for democracy.
Speaker 2: Give me, give me a James Marsen to just get
the Sonic boys in there. In general, I think.
Speaker 1: That Jim Carrey, you know, he's in there. He's playing
a bug or something. He could be like on like
the like the Terminator guys, like the Robots basically just
Doctor Robotnik, but just just like the voice of a machine.
Have you fought the robots yet? Or no?
Speaker 2: The voice of a machine? Wait, who do you want?
Is the voice of machine?
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey?
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, No, I don't think he's the vibe.
Speaker 1: No, no, might be too expensive.
Speaker 2: Also, there's like a certain humor here that's different than
Jim Carrey I think. But I could be wrong, and
he's obviously a great actor, He's got a lot of potential.
But I do think that the combo here, justin Linn,
seems like a really good director choice for this obviously
big budget action movies. Cool, it's right up a star
Trek is obviously similar sci fi kind of energy going
on there and then the writer yes, obviously like has
done it done conjuring universe stuff so different, more horror vibes.
I think you do want there to be some horror,
like there is a horror nest, a scariness too Hell
Divers right when there's just thousands of bugs crawling around you.
But obviously I think you want that humor side as well,
that tone. I don't know if he's got that side
of it, but I feel like I feel like most
Hollywood writers could probably poop out a pretty decent Hell
Divers script. So I think this is seems like a
pretty good duo to me to come up with like
a pretty solid enough, solid enough movie. Well, just I
think the big thing will be the stars, because I
think behind the camera it seems like they've got pretty
pretty solid crew here. But I'm curious to see what
they get for whether they go for the A listers,
if they have the budget for that, or if they
have to go for like the lower crop or something.
We'll see what they do. M h.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Regardless, though I am interested in the the ip
enough to want to go watch it, and I mean
I'm also massive Starship Troopers fan. I feel like that's
a big reason why I even got the game in
the first place. Yeah, was that reason. So yeah, exciting stuff.
Hopefully it's a really solid video game movie, you know those.
We're getting more video game movies than we did the
birth of this podcast. Oh, it used to be few
and far between. But uh, I like that we're getting more.
I'm not gonna say to the quality of them, but
we're getting more.
Speaker 2: So this is specifically Sony. They're they're spamming this stuff.
They also had until Dawn this year, which we didn't mention,
but yeah, like they're just they're crushing it with the well,
crushing it with quantity. I don't know follow quality, but.
Speaker 1: I'm like until oh yeah, right.
Speaker 2: They're making stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are making stuff. That's the first step in
making a a gold golden nugget of a film is
just putting it out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't make a good movie if you don't
make a movie. That's what I always say, you can
make a bad movie. So uh, I think that you will.
Uh anything else on Hell Divers No, No, nothing else
for me.