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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 1>with our soothing Bedtime Astronomy podcast. Each episode offers a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>slumber under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's unpack this. We are basically building the smartest

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<v Speaker 2>machines in human history, right to unlock the secrets.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the universe, right, that is the goal.

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<v Speaker 2>But it turns out we're accidentally teaching them to be

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<v Speaker 2>completely blind.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It is really the ultimate irony of modern science. Honestly.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we are not dealing with a hardware failure here, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a glitch in the code. What we are

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<v Speaker 3>looking at is a fundamental flaw in the actual philosophy

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<v Speaker 3>of how a machine learns to understand reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is wild to think about, because I mean, think

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<v Speaker 2>about the expectation of precision. We carry into something like

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<v Speaker 2>a medical diagnosis. Oh, absolutely, Like you fall, you break

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<v Speaker 2>your arm, You go to the hospital, the doctor takes

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<v Speaker 2>an X ray, clips it to the lightboard, and there

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's right in front of you exactly, just.

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<v Speaker 2>A jagged white line cutting across the dark bone. It's binary,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, broken or not broken.

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<v Speaker 3>And that stark visual evidence is so comforting because it

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<v Speaker 3>maps perfectly onto our desire for reality to be easily categorized.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we want the universe to be just as clean

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<v Speaker 2>as that X ray.

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<v Speaker 3>We really do.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to point these massive, powerful telescopes into the dark,

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<v Speaker 2>take a cosmic X ray, and just have an AI

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<v Speaker 2>point to a jagged white line and say, boom, there

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<v Speaker 2>is the new law of physics.

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<v Speaker 3>But the cosmos violently refuses to be categorized that easily.

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<v Speaker 3>It really does the phenomena that cosmologists are hunting for

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<v Speaker 3>right now. They do not leave clean jagged lines. They

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<v Speaker 3>leave whispers.

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<v Speaker 2>Whispers. I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they leave incredibly subtle statistic variations and the way

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<v Speaker 3>galaxies cluster together over billions of years. And to find

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<v Speaker 3>those whispers, we have essentially handed the mathematical keys to

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<v Speaker 3>the universe over to artificial neural.

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<v Speaker 2>Networks, which makes sense on paper, right because they can

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<v Speaker 2>process so much data.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes total sense. But the massive often overlook challenge

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<v Speaker 3>here is that the prior knowledge we feed into those networks.

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<v Speaker 2>The baseline rules we teach them exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>The foundational rules we give them just so they can function.

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<v Speaker 3>That can actually become the very obstacle that prevents them

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<v Speaker 3>from recognizing a revolutionary discovery.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So imagine someone hands you a pair of highly

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<v Speaker 2>advanced glasses, right, Okay, and they tell you these glasses

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<v Speaker 2>will let you see the true, unvarnished architecture of a

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<v Speaker 2>completely alien planet.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds great so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But there is a hidden catch. The lenses have

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<v Speaker 2>been perfectly tinted, perfectly calibrated by your guide to only

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<v Speaker 2>highlight shapes and colors that already exist in your own backyard.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah. I see where you're going with this.

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<v Speaker 2>So you step onto this completely alien landscape, a place

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<v Speaker 2>with entirely new physics and weird new structures. But everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>you look, the glass is aggressively filled to the light.

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<v Speaker 3>So all you see are what familiar oak trees and

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<v Speaker 3>picket fences.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, you are staring directly at the unknown, but your

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<v Speaker 2>tools are forcing you to see the known.

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<v Speaker 3>That is precisely the trap we are inadvertently building for

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<v Speaker 3>our most advanced AI.

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<v Speaker 2>It's terrifying when you would like that. Yeah, So to

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<v Speaker 2>grasp the sheer scale of this trap, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we have to do so.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, the blueprint of the universe is dominated by

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<v Speaker 3>the Standard Model of.

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<v Speaker 2>Cosmology, which has a very catchy name, right Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, LAMB to CDM, very clunky LAMB to CDM.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is the raining heavyweight champion of physics right now.

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<v Speaker 3>It absolutely is. It tells the mathematical story of how

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<v Speaker 3>we got from the literal dawn of time to the vast,

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<v Speaker 3>complex cosmic web we observe in the night sky today.

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<v Speaker 2>And it does a really good job at certain things,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>It does a brilliant job. Actually. It explains the rate

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<v Speaker 3>at which the universes expanding, for one, right, and it

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<v Speaker 3>accounts for the existence of cold dark matter, which is

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<v Speaker 3>basically the invisible scaffolding that holds galaxies together.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so lamba CDM is this monumental achievement of human intellect.

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<v Speaker 3>It works, It provides a highly accurate description of the

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<v Speaker 3>large scale structure of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Cosmos, and there's always a button always.

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<v Speaker 3>Every physicist knows it is an incomplete story, ye it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a brilliant rough.

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<v Speaker 2>Draft, right because the closer we look the glorier that

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<v Speaker 2>initial cosmic X ray becomes.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, observations have started pointing toward anomalies that simply do

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<v Speaker 3>not fit neatly into that lambda CDM framework.

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<v Speaker 2>So scientists are desperate to find what they broadly just

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<v Speaker 2>call new physics.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, new physics. We are talking about universe altering variables.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, Like, what's an example of that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, for instance, the effects of massive neutrinos okay, or

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<v Speaker 3>modified theories of gravity that suggest our fundamental understanding of

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<v Speaker 3>how attracts mass might need a really massive overhaul.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, So changing gravity itself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And there is even the tantalizing possibility of an

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<v Speaker 3>evolving dark.

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<v Speaker 2>Energy meaning it changes, right, a.

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<v Speaker 3>Repulsive force that doesn't just stay constant, but actually changes

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<v Speaker 3>its behavior and strength over a vast cosmic time scale.

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<v Speaker 2>That is mind bending. But exploring those possibilities requires a

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<v Speaker 2>completely different approach to science, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>It really does. I mean, think about how normal science works.

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<v Speaker 3>If a biologist wants to test a new variable, they

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<v Speaker 3>just set up a controlled experiment in a Petrie dish.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, they had a chemical see what the bacteria do exactly?

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<v Speaker 3>Or if an engineer wants to test a new aerodynamic shape.

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<v Speaker 3>They build a model and they put it in a

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<v Speaker 3>wind tunnel.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can't exactly put the universe in a Petrie dish.

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<v Speaker 3>No you cannot. You can't just tweak the dial on

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<v Speaker 3>the gravitational constant of the real universe and observe what

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<v Speaker 3>happens to a galaxy cluster.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I hope not.

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds dangerous, right, So the only option left is

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<v Speaker 3>to build a fake universe.

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<v Speaker 2>You literally have to construct a digital cosmos from scratch.

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<v Speaker 3>Which it brings us to the reliance on massive, extraordinarily

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<v Speaker 3>detailed computer simulations.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the Quixote simulations.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the Keyote simulations are a huge cornerstone of this

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<v Speaker 3>kind of research. The methodology here is just fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>How does it actually work?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? Researchers take a perfectly identical region of a virtual universe,

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<v Speaker 3>just a massive cube of simulated space, and they run

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<v Speaker 3>it through time over and over again. Okay, but each

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<v Speaker 3>time they run it they change the underlying mathematical laws

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<v Speaker 3>of physics.

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<v Speaker 2>So they are essentially running an ab test on reality.

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<v Speaker 3>That is exactly what it is, an ab test on

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<v Speaker 3>the universe. They take the standard lambda CDM model and

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<v Speaker 3>they hit.

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<v Speaker 2>Play and they just watch what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they watch how the dark matter and the gas

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<v Speaker 3>coalesce into galaxies over billions of simulated years.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's the a test, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Then they take that exact same starting configuration, that same

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<v Speaker 3>digital cube, but this time they inject the new physics.

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<v Speaker 2>So they sprinkle in some massive neutrinos, or.

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<v Speaker 3>They tweak the laws of gravity exactly, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>Again and then comes the comparison.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, they lay the final snapshots of these two

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<v Speaker 3>virtual universes side by.

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<v Speaker 2>Side, and I imagine they aren't looking for like giant

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<v Speaker 2>neon signs saying gravity changed here.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all. What they're looking for are not

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<v Speaker 3>massive glaring differences, but incredibly subtle structural shift.

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<v Speaker 2>What give me a.

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<v Speaker 3>Visual like, did a massive dark matter halo stretch may

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<v Speaker 3>be a fraction of a percent more in the modified universe?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, fraction of a percent?

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<v Speaker 3>Or did the cosmic web, you know, the massive filaments

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<v Speaker 3>of matter that connect galaxy clusters, did they clump together differently?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So if you are listening to this, you might

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<v Speaker 2>be thinking what I'm thinking right now, which is wait

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<v Speaker 2>a second, mike smartphone can process billions of calculations a second. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>we have server farms that span entire city blocks. Why

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<v Speaker 2>is running a computer simulation such a bottlemex.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a fair question.

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<v Speaker 2>Why can't we just generate a million of these virtual

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<v Speaker 2>universes by next Tuesday and just comb through the.

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<v Speaker 3>Data, Because that intuition completely underestimates the sheer computational violence

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<v Speaker 3>of an n body universe simulation.

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<v Speaker 2>Computational violence. I love that phrase.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is. You are not rendering a static image.

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<v Speaker 3>You are calculating the gravitational pull of billions upon billions

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<v Speaker 3>of individual particles of matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's try to ground this in a visual for everyone. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>imagine rendering a highly detailed four K open world video

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, like a massive RPG exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>The computer has to calculate the lighting, the shadows, the

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<v Speaker 2>physics of the wind moving through the leaves on a tree.

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<v Speaker 3>The reflections in a puddle on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and if you blow up a building in the game,

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<v Speaker 2>the physics engine has to track the trajectory of every

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<v Speaker 2>single piece of debris.

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<v Speaker 3>Which takes a lot of processing power.

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<v Speaker 2>Even with the best graphics cards on Earth. If there's

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<v Speaker 2>too much happening on screen, the game lags. The processor

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<v Speaker 2>simply cannot do the math fast enough.

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<v Speaker 3>It drops frames.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, take that video game environment, but instead of

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<v Speaker 2>a forest or a city block, you have to render

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<v Speaker 2>every single massive structure, every galaxy, every dark matter halo

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<v Speaker 2>in a swath of the cosmos, millions of light years across.

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<v Speaker 3>And crucially, and this is the part that breaks supercomputers,

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<v Speaker 3>every single particle in that simulation is interacting with every

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<v Speaker 3>other particle simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, really, every single one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, because gravity has infinite range. If you move one

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<v Speaker 3>particle a millimeter, it's gravitational pull on a particle a

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<v Speaker 3>billion light years away technically changes Oh my god. And

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<v Speaker 3>so you have to recalculate the entire system.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time anything moves.

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<v Speaker 3>And you have to do this frame by frame, step

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<v Speaker 3>by microscopic timestep over a timeline of fourteen billion years.

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<v Speaker 2>That is just I can't even wrap my head around

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<v Speaker 2>that math.

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<v Speaker 3>The sheer volume of mathematical integration required is unfathomable. It

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<v Speaker 3>literally brings the most powerful supercomputers on the planet to

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<v Speaker 2>But those simulations are non negoti right, Like we have

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<v Speaker 3>They are the only way forward. Those tiny variations in

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<v Speaker 3>how madd clusters in a Quixote simulation compared to a

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<v Speaker 3>standard model simulation, those are the exact breadcrumbs scientists are

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<v Speaker 3>desperately looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>Right if we want to find the faint whispers of

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<v Speaker 2>So researchers hit a wall.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. They had to find a radically smarter way to

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<v Speaker 2>Researchers like Vienna Krishnaraj and Adrian Bayer from Princeton University

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<v Speaker 2>Transfer learning. Oh okay, So instead of taking a completely

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<v Speaker 2>from the most complex, expensive new physics simulations right out.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the gate, which would take forever, right.

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<v Speaker 2>They completely changed the curriculum.

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<v Speaker 3>They utilized pre training. They took the AI and they

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<v Speaker 2>Ones based entirely on the standard LAMB to CDM model.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. They allowed the AI to build a baseline mathematical

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<v Speaker 2>So they taught at the basics first right.

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<v Speaker 3>Only after the neural network had established its foundational weights

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<v Speaker 3>of gravity and clustering, did they introduce the sophisticated, expensive models, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Ones containing the modified gravity or the massive neutrinos.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Adrian Bayer had perfect analogy for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love a good analogy, let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>He compares this approach to the way humans learn from textbooks.

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<v Speaker 3>You do not hand a first year medical student the

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<v Speaker 2>No, they would just cry. It would be entirely incomprehensible.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, You give them a basic anatomy textbook. You have

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<v Speaker 3>foundational concepts, and once that architecture is mapped in their mind,

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<v Speaker 2>Makes total sense. Vina Krishniaj, the lead author of the study.

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<v Speaker 2>She pointed out that this phased strategy prevents the AI

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<v Speaker 3>All at once, exactly, because when a neural network starts

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<v Speaker 3>Right, It is just looking at raw numbers. But by

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<v Speaker 2>So then when it's finally confronted with the complex new physics,

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<v Speaker 3>It only has to fine tune its existing knowledge to

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<v Speaker 2>Here's where it gets really interesting to me, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>exactly like teaching a kid to ride a bike. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I wouldn't you start them on a simple

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<v Speaker 2>tricycle on a flat driveway. Right. You let their brain

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<v Speaker 2>build the fundamental muscle memory of balance, of pedaling, of

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<v Speaker 2>how turning the handlebars correlates with changing direction, the basics.

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<v Speaker 2>The tricycle is the simple LAMB to CDM simulation, and

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<v Speaker 2>once their nervous system has mapped those basic physical relationships,

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<v Speaker 2>transferring those skills to the complex mountain bike is infinitely

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<v Speaker 3>That is a brilliant way to put it, and the

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<v Speaker 3>results of applying this textbook strategy to cosmology were absolutely staggering.

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<v Speaker 2>By employing transfer learning, the researchers were able to reduce

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<v Speaker 3>A factor of ten. We really need to sit with

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<v Speaker 3>that for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's not just a small improvement, It.

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<v Speaker 3>Is a revolution and workflow. A project that would have

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<v Speaker 2>It completely shifts the paradigm of what is actually possible

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<v Speaker 2>in astronomical research.

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<v Speaker 3>It does, and the underlying mechanism here mirrors the exact

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<v Speaker 3>techniques driving the current explosion in generative AI and large

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<v Speaker 3>language models.

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<v Speaker 2>Right like the chatbots everyone uses.

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<v Speaker 3>Now exactly The entire modern artificial intelligence industry relies on

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<v Speaker 2>Where you pre train a massive model on billions of

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<v Speaker 3>You fine tune it for a specific task like writing

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<v Speaker 2>Which dramatically speeds up inference and slashes training costs.

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<v Speaker 3>The researcher successfully took this cornerstone of computer science and

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<v Speaker 2>So saving ten times the computing power sounds like the

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<v Speaker 3>It really does.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like the moment in the movie where the

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<v Speaker 2>scientists cracked the code. They popped the champagne and the

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<v Speaker 2>credits role it would be.

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<v Speaker 3>If the story ended with computational efficiency. Ah, but speed

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<v Speaker 3>comes at a psychological cost.

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<v Speaker 2>Because learning from a basic textbook creates a very specific,

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly dangerous kind of blindness. Yes, this is where the

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<v Speaker 2>the psychological pitfalls of artificial intelligence.

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<v Speaker 3>The researchers uncovered a severe downside to their brilliant shortcut.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a phenomenon known as negative transfer.

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<v Speaker 2>Negative transfer it sounds what exactly is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Negative transfer is exactly what it sounds like. It happens

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<v Speaker 3>when an AI relies so heavily on the familiar foundational

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<v Speaker 2>So the AI becomes heavily biased by its own baseline education.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the pre trained neural network is no longer a

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<v Speaker 2>It is internalized the assumption that LAMB to CDM is

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, So, when the researchers finally introduce the complex simulations

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<v Speaker 3>containing the new physics, the massive neutrinos or the modified gravity.

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<v Speaker 3>The AI does not view this new data objectively.

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<v Speaker 2>It interprets the unfamiliar information entirely through the rigid, tinted

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<v Speaker 3>To really understand the mechanics of this danger, we need

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<v Speaker 3>to extend that medical diagnosis analogy you brought up earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine that medical student, learning from the introductory textbook. They

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<v Speaker 2>Very standard stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Those patterns are neurologically ingrained. The heuristic is set

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<v Speaker 3>in their brain. So years later they are a practicing

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<v Speaker 2>The doctor's brain, seeking efficiency, immediately fires off the established

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<v Speaker 3>The cognitive path of least resistance exactly. But what the

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. So in this scenario, the doctor's existing knowledge, the

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<v Speaker 2>foundational education from the introductory textbook, actively causes harm.

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<v Speaker 3>It acts as a set of cognitive blinders.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they have seen this symptom cluster a thousand times before,

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<v Speaker 2>their brain forcefully encourages the wrong, familiar conclusion.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, if that doctor had been a completely blank slate,

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<v Speaker 3>or if they hadn't relied on the heuristic shortcut, they

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<v Speaker 2>They might have ordered bloodwork, they might have.

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<v Speaker 3>Noticed a subtle anomaly in the white blood cell count

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<v Speaker 2>But their prior knowledge actively pushed them away from the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>And that cognitive trap is negative transfer, and the AI

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<v Speaker 3>systems observing the simulated universes fell right into it.

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<v Speaker 2>That is wild.

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<v Speaker 3>In some of the simulations, the mathematical signatures left behind

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<v Speaker 3>by the new physics produced patterns that superficially resembled the

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<v Speaker 2>So is the AI actually failing in these moments or

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<v Speaker 2>is it just doing exactly what we trained it to do?

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<v Speaker 3>That is the big question.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we built the neural network to find patterns,

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<v Speaker 2>to optimize for efficiency, and to rely on its prior

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<v Speaker 2>experience to minimize its error rate. Can we really blame

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<v Speaker 2>the machine for being an exceptional student of a flawed curriculum.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we can't. It is entirely a philosophical failure on

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<v Speaker 3>our part, not a computational one.

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<v Speaker 2>The algorithm is executing its mathematical gradient dissent flawlessly.

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<v Speaker 3>Flawlessly. The mistake belongs entirely to the architects of the

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<v Speaker 3>learning process. By pre training the AI heavily on the

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<v Speaker 3>lambda CDM model, we implicitly taught the machine that the

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<v Speaker 3>standard universe is the default state of reality.

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<v Speaker 2>We hard coded a conservative bias into its worldview.

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<v Speaker 3>We did so. When the AI encounters a slight deviation

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<v Speaker 3>in the cosmic web, its first mathematical instinct is not,

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<v Speaker 3>oh wow, this is a revolutionary discovery of new physics.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more like, how can I slightly adjust my standard

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<v Speaker 2>model parameters to explain away this weird data?

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. It's the dark side of efficiency. We desperately wanted

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<v Speaker 3>the AI to process the universe faster, and the price

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<v Speaker 3>we paid for that computational speed was the machine's open mindedness.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes the assumption that the familiar answer is always

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<v Speaker 2>the most likely answer.

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<v Speaker 3>And when your entire scientific mission is to hunt for

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<v Speaker 3>the unknown, to map the fringes of uncharted physics, an

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<v Speaker 3>assumption of familiarity is absolutely fatal, fatal.

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<v Speaker 2>So to see just how fatal this negative transfer can be,

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<v Speaker 3>Exact moment the simulated universe through a curveball that the

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<v Speaker 3>brilliantly trained AI completely misread.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And this blindness became incredibly apparent when the researchers

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<v Speaker 3>Now, massive neutrinos are fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me about them.

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<v Speaker 3>They are fundamental particles. They are incredibly abundant, incredibly tiny,

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<v Speaker 3>and they barely interact with normal matter at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Like, trillions of them are passing through your body

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<v Speaker 2>right now as we speak, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But crucially, they do have a tiny bit of mass,

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<v Speaker 3>and because they travel so incredibly fast, they essentially act

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<v Speaker 3>as a cosmic smoothing agent.

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<v Speaker 2>A smoothing agent.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they zip through the universe, and their gravity subtly

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<v Speaker 3>smears out the dense clustering of the cosmic web.

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<v Speaker 2>So the researchers wanted to see if the AI could

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<v Speaker 2>detect this subtle smearing effect.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but the AI walked directly into a trap because

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<v Speaker 3>of the pre training. Right, the observational signatures of a

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<v Speaker 3>massive neutrino, the specific way they alter the distribution of matter,

437
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<v Speaker 3>look almost indistinguishable from the changes caused by a completely

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<v Speaker 3>standard mundane parameter in the LAMB to CDM model.

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<v Speaker 2>The parameter known simply as sigma eight sigma eight, which

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<v Speaker 2>is basically the universe's clumping factor exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the measure of how strongly matter groups together

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<v Speaker 3>over time. If you turn up the sigma eight dial,

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<v Speaker 3>galaxies cluster more tightly.

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<v Speaker 2>If you turn it down, the universe looks smoother and

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<v Speaker 2>more spread out.

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<v Speaker 3>So consider the AI's perspective here. It is looking at

447
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<v Speaker 3>a universe where the presence of massive neutrinos has slightly

448
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<v Speaker 3>smoothed out the galaxy clusters.

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<v Speaker 2>But the AI doesn't know about massive neutrinos.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet, It has no idea. It only knows its basic textbook,

451
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<v Speaker 3>so it looks at the smoothed out cosmic web and includes, Oh,

452
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<v Speaker 3>the universe isn't filled with exotic new particles.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just a standard universe where the sigma eight

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<v Speaker 2>clumping factor happens to be dialed down a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely, the visual mathematical end result of both of these

456
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<v Speaker 3>distinct physical forces looks nearly identical to the algorithm.

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<v Speaker 2>The AI looked at a paradigm shifting particle and confidently

458
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<v Speaker 2>misidentified it as a standard variable it did.

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<v Speaker 3>Vina Krishnaraj summarized the mechanism behind this failure brilliantly.

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<v Speaker 2>What'd you say?

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<v Speaker 3>She noted that the negative transfer is not just some

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<v Speaker 3>random glitch in the code. It is driven by what

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<v Speaker 3>she calls underlying physical degeneracies in the model.

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<v Speaker 2>Physical degeneracies. Yes, that is a dense, intimidating phrase, very dense, but.

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<v Speaker 3>It represents one of the most terrifying concepts in all

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<v Speaker 3>of physics.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's break that down. What exactly does a degeneracy mean?

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<v Speaker 2>When we were talking about the laws of nature.

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<v Speaker 3>Degeneracy occurs when two completely separate, fundamentally different physical process

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<v Speaker 3>is produce the exact same observable signature.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have cause A and you have cause B.

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<v Speaker 3>They operate on entirely different mechanical principles, but the final result,

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<v Speaker 3>the physical fingerprint left behind at the scene of the crime,

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<v Speaker 3>is completely indistinguishable.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I've got a great way to picture this. Think

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<v Speaker 2>of it like a forensic investigation in your own front yard.

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<v Speaker 2>You wake up in the morning, you look out your

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<v Speaker 2>window and you see wet pavement on your driveway. You

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<v Speaker 2>are observing a physical signature water on concrete. But how

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<v Speaker 2>did it get there? Did a brief localized rainstorm pass

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<v Speaker 2>through ten minutes before you woke up, that's cause A.

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<v Speaker 2>Or did your neighbor leave their high powered lawn sprinkler

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<v Speaker 2>on overnight and the water overshot onto your property that's

484
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<v Speaker 2>caused B.

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<v Speaker 3>And the end result, the physical reality of the wet

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<v Speaker 3>concrete is identical in both scenarios exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So, if you are trapped inside your house and all

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<v Speaker 2>you have is that one visual observation of the wet pavement,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you determine the truth?

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<v Speaker 3>The answer there is you have to look for secondary clues.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. You look to see if the leaves on the

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<v Speaker 2>top branches of the trees are wet, which would indicate rain.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you look to see if the neighbor's hose is

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<v Speaker 3>currently warm or pressurized.

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<v Speaker 2>But and here is the kicker. If you have been

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<v Speaker 2>trained your entire life to believe that rain doesn't exist,

497
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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, the only way water ever gets on a

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<v Speaker 2>driveways from a sprinkler. You won't even bother looking for

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<v Speaker 2>the secondary clues.

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<v Speaker 3>Your brain will see the wet pavement, declare sprinkler, and

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<v Speaker 3>completely stop thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is precisely why physical degeneracies force us to

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<v Speaker 2>deeply question the limitations of both our artificial intelligence and

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<v Speaker 2>our own observational tools.

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<v Speaker 3>The universe is presenting a wet driveway. Is it massive

506
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<v Speaker 3>neutrinos or is it a lower sigma eight slumping factor?

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<v Speaker 2>If two massive cosmic realities look identical to an AI,

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<v Speaker 2>it exposes a severe vulnerability in our methodology.

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<v Speaker 3>It demands rigorous critical thinking. We have to step back

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<v Speaker 3>and ask how many other fundamental truths of the universe

511
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<v Speaker 3>are currently hiding behind these physicals degeneracies.

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<v Speaker 2>How many times has our AI or even generations of

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<v Speaker 2>human astronomers looked at the cosmic pavement, assumed it was

514
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<v Speaker 2>just a standard sprinkler and completely missed the torrential rainstorm

515
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<v Speaker 2>of new physics.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a genuinely unsettling thought, isn't it. We are

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<v Speaker 3>spending billions of dollars in decades of human capital building

518
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<v Speaker 3>these unfathomably complex machines to find the ultimate truths of reality, and.

519
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<v Speaker 2>They're getting tripped up by the cosmic equivalent of wet pavement.

520
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<v Speaker 3>Because the negative transfer, the AI's blindness isn't a bug,

521
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<v Speaker 3>as krishnararjs pointed out, it is driven by the degeneracies.

522
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<v Speaker 3>The AI is actively being drawn into a trap that

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<v Speaker 3>was set by the physical laws of the universe themselves.

524
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<v Speaker 2>The critical challenge now is figuring out how to break

525
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<v Speaker 2>the degeneracy.

526
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<v Speaker 3>Because if the AI remains locked into its pre trained mindset,

527
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<v Speaker 3>it will always default to the sigma eight explanation.

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<v Speaker 2>It will always assume the sprinkler. Because the introductory textbook

529
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<v Speaker 2>had studied spent fifty pages detailing the mechanics of sprinklers

530
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<v Speaker 2>and never once mentioned the possibility of rain.

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<v Speaker 3>It requires teaching the machine to value uncertainty, which is

532
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<v Speaker 3>incredibly hard to program.

533
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<v Speaker 2>So let's bring this back down to earth. Why does

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<v Speaker 2>this matter right now? Why does this specific vulnerability in

535
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<v Speaker 2>a simulated environment matter outside the walls of the flatirn Institute.

536
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<v Speaker 3>Why should you listening to this care that a neural

537
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<v Speaker 3>network got confused by some fake neutrinos. Exactly, It matters

538
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<v Speaker 3>intensely because we are standing right on the precipice of

539
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<v Speaker 3>a fundamentally new era in astronomy.

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<v Speaker 2>Right the research demonstrating this negative transfer trap has so

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<v Speaker 2>far only been tested on simulations.

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<v Speaker 3>It was contained within the safe, controlled environment of a

543
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<v Speaker 3>virtual cosmos.

544
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<v Speaker 2>But the immediate next step for the scientific community is

545
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<v Speaker 2>taking this transfer learning architecture and unleashing it on real

546
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<v Speaker 2>astronomical observations.

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<v Speaker 3>We are about to hand these AI systems the most

548
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<v Speaker 3>important massive data sets in human history.

549
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<v Speaker 2>We are entering an era of upcoming cosmological surveys that

550
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<v Speaker 2>will collect unprecedented amounts high precision data about the actual universe.

551
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<v Speaker 3>We are talking about fleets of advanced telescopes and satellites

552
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<v Speaker 3>mapping billions of galaxies in three dimensions.

553
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<v Speaker 2>Staring deeper into the past than ever before.

554
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<v Speaker 3>And beaming back exabates of raw information. It is a

555
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<v Speaker 3>tsunami of cosmic data that human minds simply do not

556
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<v Speaker 3>have the capacity to process on their own.

557
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<v Speaker 2>AI is no longer just a helpful tool. It is

558
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<v Speaker 2>becoming the mandatory gatekeeper of human discovery.

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<v Speaker 3>We have no choice but to use it. It will

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<v Speaker 3>be the primary filter through which humanity perceives the cosmos.

561
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<v Speaker 2>And that is exactly why this cognitive trap is so

562
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<v Speaker 2>critical to understand. If the artificial intelligence acting as our

563
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<v Speaker 2>ultimate gatekeeper is fundamentally biased toward old ideas, if.

564
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<v Speaker 3>It is suffering from negative.

565
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<v Speaker 2>Transfer, and assuming every single anomaly in the data is

566
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<v Speaker 2>just a variation of a standard textbook variable, then humanity's

567
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<v Speaker 2>scientific progress could literally stall out.

568
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<v Speaker 3>We could have the definitive evidence for new reality breaking

569
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<v Speaker 3>physics sitting right there on our hart drives.

570
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<v Speaker 2>Proof of evolving dark energy, proof of modified gravity, just

571
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<v Speaker 2>buried in the data from these massive new surveys.

572
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<v Speaker 3>And the AI will just quietly categorize it as normal,

573
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<v Speaker 3>file it away under land of CDM and move on.

574
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<v Speaker 2>We would be completely tragically blind to our own discoveries.

575
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<v Speaker 3>The researchers concluded their study with a stark warning, what

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<v Speaker 3>was it? They stress that the scientific community must be

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<v Speaker 3>acutely aware of this negative transfer and actively engineer ways

578
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<v Speaker 3>to mitigate it, because while pre training undeniably speeds up

579
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<v Speaker 3>inference and solves the computational bottleneck.

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<v Speaker 2>It also, in their words, may hinder learning new physics.

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<v Speaker 3>We are staring at a profound paradox in modern science.

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<v Speaker 2>The paradox are the smart tool we engineer, a solution

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<v Speaker 2>to overcome our own physical limitations, and the solution inherits

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<v Speaker 2>our cognitive biases.

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<v Speaker 3>The tools are getting faster, they're getting infinitely more capable

586
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<v Speaker 3>of ingesting vast sums of information, But that very reliance

587
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<v Speaker 3>on foundational models makes them inherently conservative.

588
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<v Speaker 2>Right part of the AI gets at deeply understanding the

589
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<v Speaker 2>standard model. The better it gets at passing the introductory test,

590
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<v Speaker 2>the less capable it becomes of imagining a reality that

591
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<v Speaker 2>breaks those rules.

592
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<v Speaker 3>We are at risk of engineering a digital genius that

593
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<v Speaker 3>entirely lacks imagination.

594
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<v Speaker 2>We started this exploration talking about the desire for a

595
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<v Speaker 2>clean diagnosis.

596
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.279
<v Speaker 3>Yes, the comforting certainty of the jagged white line on

597
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<v Speaker 3>an X ray telling us exactly what the truth is.

598
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<v Speaker 2>And we looked at how cosmologists built the lambda CDM

599
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<v Speaker 2>model to serve as that initial comforting X ray of

600
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<v Speaker 2>the universe's structure.

601
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<v Speaker 3>But when the anomalies began to mount and that standard

602
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<v Speaker 3>model proved incomplete, we had to build the incredibly complex

603
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<v Speaker 3>virtual universes the keyhote simulations to test for the hidden

604
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<v Speaker 3>variables of new physics.

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<v Speaker 2>And because rendering the gravitational dance of a billion particles

606
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<v Speaker 2>over cosmic time was too computationally exhausting, we devised a

607
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<v Speaker 2>brilliant shortcut.

608
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<v Speaker 3>We utilized transfer learning.

609
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<v Speaker 2>We forced the artificial intelligence to learn on a tricycle

610
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<v Speaker 2>before we handed the keys to the mountain bike.

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<v Speaker 3>We gave it an introductory textbook to establish its baseline understanding, and.

612
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<v Speaker 2>We achieved a monumental factor of ten reduction and computing costs.

613
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<v Speaker 2>But in the pursuit of efficiency, we walked right into

614
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<v Speaker 2>the trap of negative transfer.

615
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<v Speaker 3>We taught the artificial mind to prioritize the familiar, We

616
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<v Speaker 3>inadvertently allowed it to mistake the profound universe altering signatures

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<v Speaker 3>of massive neutrinos for the mundane standard clustering of matter.

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<v Speaker 2>We stumbled headfirst into the terrifying reality of physical degeneracies,

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<v Speaker 2>where completely different causes were the exact same visual mask.

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<v Speaker 3>And now, as we prepare to unleash these algorithms on

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<v Speaker 3>the real universe, on the tidal wave of data from

622
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<v Speaker 3>the upcoming surveys, we have to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 3>UnBias the machine.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to somehow teach an artificial brain how to

625
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<v Speaker 2>unlearned its own core assumptions.

626
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<v Speaker 3>We have to teach it to look for the secondary clues,

627
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<v Speaker 3>to search for the wet leaves.

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<v Speaker 2>Otherwise we might never see the rain. We will only

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<v Speaker 2>ever see the sprinkler.

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<v Speaker 3>It is going to require an incredibly delicate, intricate balance

631
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<v Speaker 3>in the years to come.

632
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Pushing for computational speed and efficiency on one side.

633
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<v Speaker 3>While aggressively guarding the capacity for true open minded discovery

634
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<v Speaker 3>on the other.

635
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<v Speaker 2>Which leaves us with one final, deeply mind expanding thought

636
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<v Speaker 2>to carry with you.

637
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 2>We have spent a lot of time breaking down the

639
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<v Speaker 2>concept of physical degeneracies. The AI struggled because two radically

640
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<v Speaker 2>different laws of physics resulted in the exact same visual

641
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<v Speaker 2>clustering of matter.

642
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<v Speaker 3>Right, it was a failure of the algorithm's interpretive logic.

643
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<v Speaker 2>But what if the ultimate barrier isn't the AI's learning

644
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<v Speaker 2>process at all?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>What if the universe itself has fundamental, insurmountable limits on

647
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<v Speaker 2>what can be observed from our tiny vantage point here

648
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<v Speaker 2>on Earth. Oh wow, if the cosmos intentionally hides the

649
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<v Speaker 2>deepest truths of reality behind identical physical fingerprints.

650
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<v Speaker 3>If entirely different fundamental laws cast the exact same shadow

651
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<v Speaker 3>on our cave.

652
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<v Speaker 2>Wall, exactly, how will we, or any super advanced AI

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<v Speaker 2>we ever managed to build, ever truly know which set

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<v Speaker 2>of laws governs reality.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the beautiful, terrifying frontier of cosmology. We are

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<v Speaker 3>attempting to translate a cosmic text where multiple completely different

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<v Speaker 3>physical languages result in the exact same sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>It is going to take a lot more than an

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<v Speaker 2>introductory textbook to figure that out. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for joining the conversation today and for exploring the furtless

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<v Speaker 2>edges of the known universe with us. Keep questioning the

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<v Speaker 2>X rays and never assume you know exactly why the

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<v Speaker 2>pavement is wet.
