WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:03.040 This is really going to get long and involved. This 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:06.759 is where we take our deep breaths, because the topic 3 00:00:06.839 --> 00:00:13.400 list is very, very long, inasmuch as we poke fun 4 00:00:13.439 --> 00:00:17.760 at it. Sometimes. The reason that we do cards and 5 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:23.120 calls and reughing down here on the grander scale is 6 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:26.239 so we all can sit there and we can watch 7 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:30.239 the game together. Want to see the game improve and 8 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:34.240 want to see officiating improve to where it is consistent. 9 00:00:34.359 --> 00:00:36.039 And like I said, this is going to be coming 10 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:40.280 across as somewhat Pollyanna ish, so I apologize for the paragraph. 11 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:44.920 We do this because of moments that we see, Moments 12 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:47.479 that we see that concern us, Moments that we see 13 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:50.439 that should be under common sense be called in certain 14 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:51.439 ways but are not. 15 00:00:53.439 --> 00:00:56.200 And we believe it's almost like the sunshine law. 16 00:00:57.119 --> 00:01:00.119 The best things that you can do is sit there 17 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:02.439 and you can put the sun on something to give 18 00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:05.400 it the exposure that you feel that it needs, because 19 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:07.840 if it's allowed to exist in darkness, then it will 20 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:12.079 continue to grow. So we have these moments every single 21 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:15.159 week where we bring in Bart Keeler. We walk through 22 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:20.120 the events themselves, we walk through the chaos itself, so 23 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:23.799 we're all reminded about how the game can be better 24 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:28.120 if we continue to look at these events as they are. 25 00:01:28.959 --> 00:01:32.680 And so Bart, my five paragraph essay is now out 26 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:36.079 of the way and it's time to take a deep 27 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:39.239 breath for a Monday. What's the what's the mug today, sir? 28 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:45.879 This is Mudham Arabia, a mug from them. So okay, 29 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:51.879 TV show from Finland. It's got calming tea in it, 30 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:57.359 the sing John, because yeah, Saturday was not calm. 31 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:00.719 No it was not, No, no, it was not. 32 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:06.480 I have one moment in particular that that is kind 33 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:11.879 of a microcosm of the whole thing. And I mean 34 00:02:11.879 --> 00:02:15.039 we played I played the ending of the Atlanta United 35 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:18.680 match with Jason and hour number one, but for those 36 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:20.280 that are just kind of joining us, an hour number 37 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:23.960 two and they played again. And it is the overarching 38 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:27.800 comments about the crew that was at the Purple Barn 39 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:31.840 for Atlanta United and Pumas on Saturday once again, ninety 40 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:33.240 two nine game in the Odyssey. 41 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:36.759 App Oh they blow for full time right there. 42 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:41.439 Believable. This referee crew should never work another international match again. 43 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:44.960 They are not capable of working a game at this level. 44 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:49.560 Pumas wasted time with their substitutions and they wasted time 45 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:50.800 with a red guard. 46 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:53.319 And they got they made it happen. 47 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:57.280 This referee crew should never work another game at this 48 00:02:57.360 --> 00:02:58.000 level again. 49 00:02:58.319 --> 00:02:59.879 They cannot handle it. 50 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:03.319 N the game in the Odyssey app that was how 51 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:08.039 the game ended, But we go into that. Do you 52 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:10.039 just want to start at the beginning and go forward 53 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:13.199 or are there particular events that you want to address 54 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:19.360 and philosophy and consistency and crowding and because there are 55 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:25.240 so many things that went wrong, this was like how 56 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:29.439 not to literally this was this was a this was 57 00:03:29.479 --> 00:03:34.360 a manual and how not do? And yeah, I was 58 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:38.120 had and I was trying to do some research on 59 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:42.719 the center ref and I did notice and you can 60 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:47.080 draw your own conclusions that the center ref in that 61 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:50.639 match has spent a lot of time in the Costa 62 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:53.840 Rican Primari League, getting a lot of his a lot 63 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:58.319 of his reps and his red card. I want to 64 00:03:58.360 --> 00:04:03.400 say his red card to match ratio was about five 65 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:07.960 one to five, so about every five matches he had 66 00:04:08.039 --> 00:04:11.759 a red card in the Costa Rican Premier League, where 67 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:14.479 and this is a this is a gentleman who has 68 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:15.479 been given. 69 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:20.319 He's been given assignments all across the board. 70 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:25.680 The VR VAR in this match for Pumas and Atlanta 71 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:29.240 United was the gentleman in the Gold Cup in the 72 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:34.000 TN t Haiti match who pulled the the penalty off 73 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:37.199 the board by going to v R in the first half. 74 00:04:37.879 --> 00:04:40.120 So you had a couple of a couple of red 75 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:43.759 flares that were sent up here. But you can draw 76 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:46.040 your own conclusion about a riff that gets most of 77 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:48.759 his reps in the Costa Rican Premier League and the 78 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:50.759 nationality of the keeper for Pumas. 79 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:53.920 I'm glad you made that connection. John. I'm not going 80 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:59.319 to go in there and say that that is necessarily connected, 81 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:03.040 but you cannot deny that the man who is a 82 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:10.439 Costa Rican international referee allowed the Costa Rican national goalkeeper legend, 83 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:13.560 one of the best players ever to come from this 84 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:18.040 this region. He got. Where's the timeline he got? 85 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:23.040 Well, So actually, here here's Sika and Sam. Here's Seka got. 86 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:27.319 Fourteen No, let's see eight thirteen minus five, eight minutes 87 00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:30.000 from the time that Navas got a red card to 88 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:32.279 Sleish taking the shot. 89 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:36.759 So here is here is that moment in time seeking 90 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:38.959 Sam on the call. Courtesy of our friends at Apple 91 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:42.160 TV and the League's Cup. This is just a microcosm 92 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:42.759 of the whole thing. 93 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:52.360 Oh, he's a steal from Riley and he leads Jare 94 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:56.759 out coach Navas, who takes him out a file here, 95 00:05:57.040 --> 00:05:58.120 what's going to be the call? 96 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:08.319 A red card? So Pulmas will go down a man 97 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:10.040 with about a minute remaining. 98 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:16.399 More importantly, where this contact came, which I still think 99 00:06:16.519 --> 00:06:22.160 was outside the penalty area, and his sacrifice of himself 100 00:06:22.319 --> 00:06:24.000 might have still saved the day. 101 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:27.759 Atlanta are not gonna benefit much from that red card, 102 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:29.600 sadly for Atlanta Pans. 103 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:32.480 Because you go around the goalkeeper, you. 104 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:36.160 Force a red card, you have well less than thirty 105 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:38.279 seconds to take advantage of being a man up. 106 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:41.560 So it was quite a good result for Kayla. 107 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:45.920 Navas said, you'll take you'll take a Reddit save a 108 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:49.560 goal unless someone steps up in scores. 109 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:51.439 Let's sake and Sam in real time. 110 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:57.240 I do want to address that particular notion that Jason 111 00:06:57.439 --> 00:07:02.639 and Mike were particularly up said about, and I don't 112 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:04.959 disagree with them being a little upset about the time 113 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:13.519 wasting that Pumas unsurprisingly took part of. But as noted, 114 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:16.160 it's not like the red card came in the second 115 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:19.680 minute of six minutes of out a time. It did 116 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:23.720 come at the end of what would have been six 117 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:25.399 minutes of out of time. Now you probably could have 118 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:27.959 added another minute or two even before that, based on 119 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:34.279 substitutions and shenanigans. But I do think the one thing 120 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:36.600 I'll say for this all this, I'm not giving the 121 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:39.720 referee any credit, but it wasn't like we had a 122 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:44.240 whole lot of time left in the added time to 123 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:46.680 continue with the match. So the fact that the whistle 124 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:49.720 blew fairly quickly after the free kick was taken and 125 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:53.000 eventually cleared to me, wasn't that big of a deal. 126 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:55.560 So I just I do need to put that out there, 127 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:57.920 I think if we're gonna But at the same time, 128 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:03.040 they don't have any real benefit of the doubt because 129 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:08.040 from minute one to minute one and fifteen they decided 130 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:12.160 to just not adjudicate this match and a fair and 131 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:17.040 just proper manner. And I think there is some level 132 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:23.279 of reality that a man whose only real workings are 133 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:28.279 in the Costa Rican you know, top flight, is not 134 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:34.200 prepared well enough for matches against legamkis and MLS. He 135 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:38.120 does have international appearances, he does referee a lot on 136 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:41.840 the international stage. He is a Conker Calf widely used referee, 137 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:46.120 but not as many matches as probably you would want 138 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:49.720 to see from a guy of that caliber. Quote caliber, 139 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:54.399 He's no Oshane Nation, if you will. But you know, 140 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:58.159 I do think that is something that does need to 141 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:04.039 be critiqued. I mean, it was not good from start 142 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:08.000 to finish, and Pumas was able to do whatever they 143 00:09:08.039 --> 00:09:10.919 wanted and get rewarded for it, and he let them 144 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:15.120 run the show. It was not a very well controlled 145 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:17.320 match by any stretch. You can talk about fouls and 146 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:20.200 cards and all these things, the reality is that he 147 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:21.159 did not control the match. 148 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:21.399 Well. 149 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:23.960 He had no control over the match, especially towards the end. 150 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:28.039 And for one of the only times of this season 151 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:30.360 we can actually say maybe the refereeing affected at land 152 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:33.240 Nights ability to win a game. But and here's my 153 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:36.320 snide comment at Landing itms darn good at losing games, 154 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:39.919 and they figured out to lose another one tonight with 155 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:41.000 the help of the referee. 156 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:46.600 Yeah, all right, so explain not the first one, which 157 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:49.360 was soft in general, but the second. 158 00:09:49.799 --> 00:09:55.080 Yeah. Okay, Oh so I will say for the first one, yeah, 159 00:09:55.159 --> 00:09:57.039 it was a foul. 160 00:09:57.240 --> 00:09:57.679 Yeah. 161 00:09:57.960 --> 00:10:00.200 Would we like to see at Landing knighted benefit that 162 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:01.720 on the other end once or twice a season. 163 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:07.600 Sure have we no, no, no, we have not no. 164 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:12.039 But you know, I always just go back to that 165 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:14.159 one that Brooks Lennon had back in I thin guess 166 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:17.960 was twenty twenty one down in Miami where where he is? 167 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:20.200 He was falling down already, and I'm like. 168 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:23.519 Where where now, Brooks? And I think since then, Brooks 169 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:28.559 has been given this moniker of being a thirty player. 170 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:32.080 So if that's a dive, then this was a dive, right, 171 00:10:32.159 --> 00:10:36.080 I mean, come on now, So but at the end 172 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:38.159 of the day, there's contact and if you see that, 173 00:10:38.279 --> 00:10:41.799 you're not, yes, not overturned. 174 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:42.960 I mean I get it. 175 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:46.279 But the but but second one though, yeah, the second 176 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:50.080 one now, I have had it. I have had it 177 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:57.559 expressed to me about this particular rule where if there 178 00:10:57.679 --> 00:10:59.120 is and it's basically. 179 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:01.720 Like continuation in basquet ball, where so. 180 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:06.919 Ronald and the player for Pumas, I mean, the foul 181 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:10.799 happened fifteen yards, it started fifteen yards outside the eighteen, 182 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:14.240 and so it's hand fighting and grabbing and it's almost 183 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:15.960 to the point where it's fifty to fifty and there 184 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:18.200 doesn't really seem to be you know, if you want 185 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:22.080 to call advantage, you probably could. But then magically, as 186 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.679 soon as the player gets to the edge of the eighteen, 187 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:28.559 if not, the eighteen fall down go boom, and you 188 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:33.080 end up with a moment where it's another opportunity for pumas. 189 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:36.480 So but I have but I have been told that 190 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:40.519 the rule states that if it starts outside the box 191 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:43.399 and continues inside the box, then you are to award 192 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.960 it toward the last act and not necessarily pay attention 193 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:47.879 to the continuation. 194 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:51.759 Well, it does depend on what a the foul is 195 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:56.000 and b if they're still fouling them inside the penalty area. 196 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:00.440 So I personally have not been able to fl a 197 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:05.000 great angle of showing exactly where the foul stopped. Let's 198 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:07.440 just put it that way. But I think it is 199 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:14.039 fair to say from our vantage point on both you know, 200 00:12:14.440 --> 00:12:17.240 when you're looking at it from just live action and 201 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:19.600 when you looked at any sort of replay that they 202 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:23.120 had right, didn't feel like even the foul continued to 203 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:27.679 that line, right, I think this is. 204 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:32.600 What's the word you're looking for. 205 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:35.279 I'm trying to, okay, John, I really am trying to 206 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:38.039 not be a fan in this moment, because that's why 207 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:40.600 I'm looking at it as a referee standpoint and going, 208 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:47.279 if he calls that foul, yeah, outside of the penalty area, 209 00:12:47.559 --> 00:12:52.320 and you go, no, that's where the foul was. I 210 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:54.519 don't think there's any real problem with that. 211 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:56.320 Yeah, No, I think I think. 212 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:59.639 To me that the error is if you're if you're 213 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:02.519 going to err on the side of either side right 214 00:13:02.559 --> 00:13:04.960 of this, it makes more sense to say no, it 215 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:07.559 wasn't in the penalty area and then yes, you can 216 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:10.879 have our check okay, or you can go to the 217 00:13:10.879 --> 00:13:14.320 monitor and see. I think it is easier to say 218 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:20.320 no penalty and then reverse to penalty if whatever magical 219 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:23.080 angle you find it shows you, oh, no, it did 220 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:26.840 actually happen on the line, because again, as long as 221 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:29.039 you're touching it in part of that white you are 222 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:33.080 then inside the penalty area. So that I think is 223 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:40.000 where the error is calling it a penalty without really 224 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:43.200 having a great vantage point that it was a penalty. 225 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:46.519 And definitely, as you've noted, there was a lot of 226 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:49.559 fouls that led to it. You could have easily said no, no, no, 227 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:52.320 this is the foul we're calling. Because the foul that 228 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:57.840 was the penalty wasn't something that happened directly on the line, 229 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:00.679 And that's kind of where I agree that this foul 230 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:04.320 occurred outside of the penalty area. The player just so 231 00:14:04.519 --> 00:14:08.360 happened to start falling once he went into the penalty area. 232 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:10.360 And that's not what we call the foul right now. 233 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:14.279 We call it where the where the foul occurred, which 234 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:17.559 was outside of the penalty area. Yeah, but now let 235 00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:19.759 me slip into fan mode. This referee seemed hell bent 236 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:21.559 on giving Pumas a penalty anytime they. 237 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:22.000 Felt like it. 238 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:27.559 Yeah, and that that is the unfortunate, Like, as a referee, 239 00:14:27.639 --> 00:14:30.399 you lose your integrity a bit. He lost a lot 240 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:34.720 of integrity this match, and so it's easy to say, wow, man, 241 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:37.559 this guy looked like he was favoring one team over 242 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:40.679 the other, and it did feel that way. You're allowed, 243 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:44.039 at Landed fans to feel that way because he himself 244 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:47.480 abandoned his integrity a lot of times during this match. 245 00:14:47.639 --> 00:14:47.919 Yeah. 246 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:51.320 And the reason that we bring you in for this 247 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:57.320 particular segment for refing down here is while you are 248 00:14:57.399 --> 00:15:00.639 a fan, you're the one that it gets to read 249 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:02.960 the rule book, take the classes, learn about what's going on. 250 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:05.519 You watch from a a critical eye, and that's why 251 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:08.039 I wanted to That's why we started this segment in 252 00:15:08.080 --> 00:15:11.039 the first place, was to look at things through a 253 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:14.360 critical eye and educate us all as to what's going 254 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:17.279 on through the mind of an official in these moments 255 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:24.279 and where the approach is different, flawed, uh, needs improvement, whatever, 256 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:27.039 you know. That's that's why we wanted to have you 257 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:29.600 do this from the absolute beginning when we started. Well, 258 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:32.440 so folks can understand what's going on in the mind 259 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:35.559 of folks as we're analyzing these plays. Yes, we do 260 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:37.559 get fired up about them, but I wanted to go 261 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:40.360 through the laws of the game and kind of walk 262 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:43.080 through it and then add the personality of the officials 263 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:45.960 and all those other intangibles that are attached to plays 264 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:50.039 that we see, yeah, and hope that we can be 265 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:52.759 vigilant in wanting the game to be better. 266 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:56.159 And again, for me, as a referee in a fan, 267 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:58.960 I'm looking at it. I'm giving the referee the benefit 268 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:01.000 of the doubt. I know how hard it is out there. 269 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:03.240 I know what is going through their mind and the 270 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:05.960 eight million decisions they have to make on the fly. 271 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:08.759 I think referring soccer is way harder than any other 272 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:12.000 sport because of the number of officials you have out 273 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:15.120 there with true decision making power, Aka, you have one 274 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:18.399 and you got twenty two dudes who have zero respect 275 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:21.960 for you and very little respect for themselves and the 276 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:25.000 other team at some points trying to make all this difficult. 277 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:31.120 But again, when you choose to see a game in 278 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:34.399 a certain way, which is what it felt like, then 279 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:39.120 it's easier for me to criticize you because it did 280 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:43.240 feel like there was a field tilt towards one team 281 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:46.039 and not the other based on the fact that two 282 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:50.559 penalties were given that look, the first one, there's contact. 283 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:53.120 Is it soft? Yes, don't stick you like out Brooks. 284 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:56.960 That's my analysis of that. You know, that is a 285 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:00.279 if I'm ever teaching kids how to play soccer her 286 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:02.559 as a defender, don't leave your legout and as an 287 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:08.480 attacker fall down, you know, And and it's like, well, yeah, man, 288 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:10.599 it's soft. But also you like dad gummet, you know, 289 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:13.559 that's the that's the reaction you are allowed to have. 290 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:15.799 It. 291 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:18.960 It is funny, though, John, I think we were on 292 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:23.599 this not even a week ago, I guess totally. Yeah, 293 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:25.640 not even a week ago, because it was Friday, we 294 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:27.759 were talking about a penalty that was taken away from 295 00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:28.519 Atlantic nighted. 296 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:28.880 Yeah. 297 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:37.000 Yeah, So I do question the var consistency because there 298 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:43.279 was contact, yeah, and they took it away. So that 299 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:46.599 is another thing I am questioning, is what is this 300 00:17:46.799 --> 00:17:52.319 var consistency for match to match even in you know it's. 301 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:57.519 Yeah, I know, there are a couple of other things 302 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:01.119 from the match that's stuck out. You're talking about iniquity 303 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:03.599 when it comes to just delivering yellow cards in general, 304 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:09.039 it is giving yellow cards for the Philadelphia Union playbook 305 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:12.880 being exercised by Pumas. When it comes to slow substitutions, 306 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:16.400 it's like uh oh oh oh. You know it's like 307 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:18.440 you know, al Chervich breaks it breaks his elbow and 308 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:20.759 it's like, oh my arm. You sit down, you sit there, 309 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:22.640 you catch your breath. Man, I'm exhausted. Oh you're being 310 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:25.480 subbed out, okay, and then you're slow on the walk off. 311 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:28.039 And then I think we finally did get a yellow 312 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:30.559 card for someone who was taking their own sweet time. Yeah, 313 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:34.119 to at the very end, the very end, then you 314 00:18:34.359 --> 00:18:38.119 have let's see what am I missing? So oh, taking 315 00:18:38.200 --> 00:18:42.480 the denying the taking of a quick free kick was 316 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:45.559 another thing. That I noticed in the match. When it 317 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:49.279 comes to a foul and a team wants to take 318 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:53.119 a quick free kick, what's going through an official's mind 319 00:18:53.799 --> 00:18:57.440 to either A allow them to do it or B 320 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:01.240 sit there and go no, you can't, or telling see 321 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:03.279 the team that is trying to stand in front of 322 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:05.680 the ball so there is no quick free kick. Back 323 00:19:05.720 --> 00:19:06.359 the blank up. 324 00:19:13.160 --> 00:19:15.240 See here's the thing, John. In a normal world, I 325 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:17.759 would say you get the benefit of it. Doubt once, 326 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:21.720 maybe twice. Hey back up, Hey, don't do that again. 327 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:25.000 You know again, setting a wall as long as you're 328 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:28.880 trying to give it ten yards and look counting as hard. 329 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:34.400 You know, being relatively far enough away from the ball 330 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:37.279 when you're trying to set up a wall or whatever 331 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:40.519 is fine. It's the walking in front of it, standing 332 00:19:40.599 --> 00:19:44.400 in front of it. Those things are where personally I 333 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:46.880 get really annoyed. And as a referee we've kind of 334 00:19:46.880 --> 00:19:50.200 been directed to like not allow those things to happen, 335 00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:52.519 because again, if you start setting your while of four 336 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:56.039 yards away, we all know what you're doing, but it's 337 00:19:56.279 --> 00:19:58.839 in the realm of like, well, okay, I'll back you up. 338 00:19:58.920 --> 00:20:01.160 And to be quite most of the time the attacker 339 00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:03.119 is going to want that anyway. But it's the delaying 340 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:05.920 the quick restart that is kind of the problem. A 341 00:20:05.960 --> 00:20:08.519 lot of times that is not supposed to be allowed 342 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:10.200 to happen, and that's usually where you get the player 343 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:13.079 who runs up right on the ball and stops and again, 344 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:15.279 you make it once, you make it twice. But for 345 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:19.359 me personally, after the second time that a team does it, 346 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:21.960 not even a player a team, we're getting yellow cards 347 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:26.200 out because that is something that is deliberately trying to 348 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:29.039 delay the restart of play, which John is a cautionable 349 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:31.160 offense if you read the laws of the game, which 350 00:20:31.200 --> 00:20:34.960 I suggest mister Nava or not. No Herrera does Ron Kaylor. 351 00:20:35.799 --> 00:20:38.160 I also suggest, probably Kaylor Navis read the laws of 352 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:39.680 the game, because you're not supposed to handle the ball 353 00:20:39.680 --> 00:20:42.000 outside the penaltyary. And for some reason he was trying 354 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:43.960 to argue that, which was the craziest thing ever. And 355 00:20:43.960 --> 00:20:46.319 that's where half of the I feel like eight minutes 356 00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:48.079 came up with him trying to say, no, I didn't 357 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:51.119 handle the ball, as he clearly handled the ball, or 358 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:53.160 even if he didn't handle the ball, took a whole 359 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:57.160 player out in a dog show situation. But yes, John, 360 00:20:57.200 --> 00:20:58.880 You're not supposed to be standing in front of the penalty, 361 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:02.039 in front of a free kick after a foul that 362 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:04.680 should be a cautionable offense. It's right there in the 363 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:05.319 laws of the game. 364 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:13.000 Now red cards and issuing the removal of a player, 365 00:21:13.799 --> 00:21:17.279 it's like your fam you got to go. This did 366 00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:20.559 not happen with Kaylor Novice after the fact, and added 367 00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:25.000 another level of Shenanigan to this whole thing where. 368 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:26.839 You have. 369 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:35.200 Kaylor basically directing as Jarrett joins us, Kayler Novice basically 370 00:21:35.279 --> 00:21:41.000 directing Angulo and it's like setting up walls directing Angoula, 371 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:42.279 where's the free kick going? 372 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:45.119 All these kinds of things you had. 373 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:48.359 You had basically coaching going on from Kayler Novice on 374 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:51.559 the pitch, and it basically took Brad Gazane at center 375 00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:54.400 circle to remind Kaylor Novis, you're not supposed to be 376 00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:58.240 here anymore. And finally security you know the muscle, and 377 00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:01.480 Brad Gazane finally encouraged to Kaylor Novice to finally leave. 378 00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:05.920 That was another element of all of this timely removal 379 00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:07.359 of a player who got a red card. 380 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:12.160 Yeah, so look, we all understand in the var era 381 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:15.119 that you're probably gonna take a little longer to walk 382 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:19.119 off the field so that Var can look at the 383 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:23.920 review again. I don't know what he expected Var to 384 00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:25.880 look at. When he clearly handles the balls out of 385 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:28.400 the punetaria, plus takes the whole player down in an 386 00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:30.599 attempt to do so, it's a red card all day long. 387 00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:34.960 I think Kaylor Nobvias knew what he was doing. What 388 00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:38.799 bothers me is it's not that he helps the player 389 00:22:38.839 --> 00:22:42.200 put the jersey on, because okay, fine, whatever, you got 390 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:44.359 to take years off and give it him or whatever 391 00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:48.039 you know you want to say it, Just again, when 392 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:50.319 you have eight minutes from red card to free kick, 393 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:57.920 that's too long. It's just too long. I don't know 394 00:22:58.480 --> 00:23:03.799 where Pumas is in terms of like the table of 395 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:05.119 their fourth Okay. 396 00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:07.200 So they have a chance, they're part of that gaggle. 397 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:08.599 That's uh only. 398 00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:10.799 Three games into the season. Oh never mind, you're talking 399 00:23:10.839 --> 00:23:11.720 about League Cup. 400 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:17.440 Yes, yeah, no, I meant uh Leagues Cup. So Conker calf. 401 00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:20.279