WEBVTT 1 00:00:39.640 --> 00:00:43.280 Hey, welcome back to Pluck Vacation Unofficial Vinegar Syndrome Podcast. 2 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:44.840 This is episode thirty two. 3 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:48.200 As y'all know, we're using this as a as a 4 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:51.359 platform to find the joy in unfettered creativity. This is 5 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:54.320 a podcast dedicated to bringing awareness and context to movies 6 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:58.799 of any budget, from anywhere and during any time. Eli, 7 00:00:58.840 --> 00:00:59.560 how you doing today? 8 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:03.320 Doing great? Oh good? We're doing We're actually having back 9 00:01:03.320 --> 00:01:07.719 and forth before, but my on the spot answer is 10 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:10.319 I'm doing good. Had a good new year. Watched a 11 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:14.040 lot of the November December titles. Actually this past weekend 12 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:18.239 I blasted through a bunch of them. Yeah, I watched. 13 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:22.959 I watched Stunt Hall and Time Crimes and hadn't seen 14 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:25.400 both in like almost twenty years, so they were very 15 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:26.480 due for rewatches on that. 16 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:30.359 Hell yeah, well that's perfect. Lead And the other voice 17 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:33.680 you're hearing is employee number one Vinegar Syndrome. He is 18 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:37.439 the lead film scanning technician, restoration artist and a producer 19 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:40.959 slash director for a Konoscope line newly announced sub label 20 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:42.879 at VS Brandon Ebson. 21 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:45.400 How are you, sir, I'm doing well. Thank you for 22 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:48.159 having me on again. It's been a while. 23 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:52.799 Absolutely yeah, so you've been at VS almost as long 24 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:55.359 as it's been since I've seen time crimes in Stunhall Syndrome. 25 00:01:57.560 --> 00:01:59.439 Yeah, you min it's like five or six years. 26 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:04.599 Yeah, yeah, Yeah. 27 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:03.319 That's amazing. 28 00:02:03.400 --> 00:02:05.879 Well, last time we were on is a bit more general, 29 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:08.280 and we're trying to find the right time to kind 30 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:11.240 of connect again. And I'm so glad that kind of 31 00:02:11.240 --> 00:02:13.439 scope came out because this gave us a perfect opportunity 32 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:15.960 to hear from you again. But before we get too 33 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:19.400 much into that line specifically, how you've been good. 34 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:22.319 This year has been one of the one of the 35 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:26.400 craziest years for twenty twenty five for me personally too, 36 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:30.360 not only just you know, our regular Vinegar Syndrome slate 37 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:34.080 and working with our great team of restoration artists and 38 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:39.080 director and just different people working on everything, you know, 39 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:43.039 and but not only that, and then all my weekends, 40 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:46.000 all my nights, just getting I kind of scope ready 41 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:49.759 as much asly possible. And it's not just me either, 42 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:53.240 We have just everybody who has pitched in and helped out, 43 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:56.680 and I've thanked a lot of them, and I'm like 44 00:02:56.759 --> 00:02:59.120 my social media and everything too. It's been it's been 45 00:02:59.199 --> 00:03:02.560 crazy getting it together, but this has been one of 46 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:05.719 the busiest years ever. And then on top of all 47 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:10.039 of that, like in September, I unfortunately had a miss 48 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:14.800 I sell it a couple of conventions too for vinegar syndrome, 49 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:18.039 and one is the local Connecticut one, and then also 50 00:03:18.120 --> 00:03:21.120 Chiller Theater in New Jersey. I had miss both because 51 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:24.080 you know, thirty nine years old and all of a sudden, 52 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:31.360 my appendix goes and what's funny is and this is true, 53 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:34.199 my appendix burst. And I didn't realize it burst for 54 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:39.599 four days and I was walking around I went to work, dude, 55 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:44.400 I so, yeah, a little bit health wise in the past, 56 00:03:44.439 --> 00:03:48.599 I've had really bad kidney stones, and oddly enough, my 57 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:52.439 appendix burst thing. And I'm sure people listening are like, 58 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:55.800 what the fuck are you talking about? And that didn't 59 00:03:55.800 --> 00:03:58.759 feel as bad as kidney stones I had in the past, 60 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:02.240 so I thought I just had bad food poisoning and 61 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:06.080 I was just sloopy from that. And like the day 62 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:09.800 after it burst, I felt great, like because and the 63 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:12.120 doctor was like, well, yeah, because it bursts and you 64 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:18.480 don't have pain now, but it's it's bad, like yeah, yeah, 65 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:22.759 four days and all the doctors they're like how were 66 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:27.879 you walking? Like anything didn't seem weird, and but I'm like, no, 67 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:31.120 just it felt like I got punched in the kidney 68 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:33.800 and I was recovering from that, Like it felt like 69 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:36.639 I got a bruise on my right side for some reason. 70 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:39.079 I'll meet you. I'll meet you on this one. Okay, 71 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:41.360 I don't have I don't have an appendix story. But 72 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:44.399 if we're telling gross medical stories, yeah, appropriate, it's appropriate 73 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:45.720 for a vinegar syndrome podcast. 74 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:47.480 Yeah. 75 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:50.519 So I got into ssectomy right yeah, yeah, and my 76 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:53.000 boss started hurting like day two and getting bigger. 77 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:54.600 But I was like, okay, this is part of the 78 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:55.399 healing process. Again. 79 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:58.399 We started getting bigger and bigger, and then by like 80 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:00.199 day three or four, same thing. 81 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:02.680 I just had these giant swollen testicles and it hurt. 82 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:05.160 I was walking around like like bow legged, like you know, 83 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:08.199 like a just and I couldn't close my legs and 84 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:08.920 everything hurt. 85 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:10.079 Telling I wasn't helping, and I. 86 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:11.399 Was like, oh, I wonder if I should check a 87 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:13.199 doctor that I went to the doctor. He's like, what 88 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:14.600 are you doing, He's like, you're infected? 89 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:20.079 Well yeah, look, hey, if if if people here haven't 90 00:05:20.079 --> 00:05:21.920 seen a bullet syndrome. Yet this is I feel like 91 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:26.800 a great perfect People should go see a bullet syndrome 92 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:29.399 because this is just a great like, uh, this is cat. 93 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:32.279 This is cat too, if you will. The conversation is 94 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:33.759 it's funny. 95 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:33.920 Man. 96 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:36.319 Every person I know that had of a sectomy, I 97 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:39.879 had one as well, but like I, it always has 98 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:41.959 like a story about this, and I for some reason, 99 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:45.240 mine was super seamless outside of the usual kind of 100 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:47.839 like maintenance. But I'm like, damn, I was fully expecting 101 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:51.480 to just have like a rough month, and shockingly, after 102 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:54.480 like a week, I was, I was, I was back 103 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:57.079 to like in full form, and so I wish I 104 00:05:57.079 --> 00:05:59.360 could join I. You know, I I do have other stories, 105 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:01.879 but they're none of them are like medically fun. They're 106 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:03.120 all just like, oh, you know what happened to me 107 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:04.519 once when I was a kid. I just had a 108 00:06:05.639 --> 00:06:05.959 like that. 109 00:06:07.120 --> 00:06:09.199 I just think it's appropriate that we should call out 110 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:10.759 that there's a lot of heart spoken right now, knowing 111 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:11.800 that you just got to aseect me. 112 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:13.720 So sorry, everybody. 113 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:16.959 Good luck folks. If you were if you were lined up, 114 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:19.680 well it's time to go find another suitor. 115 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:27.800 Jeez. Yeah. But yeah, like no with what you're saying too, 116 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:31.399 just everything anything medical. Of course it had to happen 117 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:34.240 the year I'm watching trying to launch a label, you know, 118 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:38.800 and it basically put me down for like a month 119 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:44.680 recovering and everything, and and it was bad. And they're like, yeah, 120 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:49.279 like we we did the surgery. Everything went well there, 121 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:53.600 but like we we can't even guarantee one hundred percent 122 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:58.519 you were like perfectly clean and and you're not gonna 123 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:02.120 go septic again. And a week or two, so the 124 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:06.160 next two weeks were like, oh, I can't do anything, like. 125 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:09.399 And you know in the back of your mind that 126 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:10.800 like people are having to pick up the work, and 127 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:12.040 you're just like, come on. 128 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:15.920 And I'm a guy. I I I do work from 129 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:18.920 home when I have to, like in terms of just 130 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:24.319 additional restoration whenever I can to like yep, help us, 131 00:07:24.600 --> 00:07:28.319 you know, get ahead, is it if we can. And 132 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:33.279 but I love being with people in the building and 133 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:37.839 just doing the film, you know. And so this one 134 00:07:37.959 --> 00:07:45.399 really sucked basically, but I recovered and then made it happen, 135 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:49.560 you know, and it's basically I still kind of been 136 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:53.560 on It's not even cloud nine necessarily. It's just like 137 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:57.079 surreal that I kind of Scope has launched in general. 138 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:00.560 Well, and let's pusitive for one secon and then let's 139 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:02.360 just right back into that comment because I think I 140 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:03.959 just want to get people a previous. So the reason 141 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:06.600 you're on is kind of for two reasons, right, well 142 00:08:06.639 --> 00:08:11.120 three reasons. One because you're awesome, two because we want 143 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:13.240 to talk about the new releases and every week that 144 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:15.240 came out, and three is to talk about the launch 145 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:18.519 of Iconoscope. But I feel like you've set this up perfectly, 146 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:20.079 So do you mind kind of walking us through the 147 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:22.879 origin of the idea and how it was getting the rights? 148 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:24.959 And maybe I don't know how Warner Brothers plays into that, 149 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:26.360 but if you want to talk about that at all, 150 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:29.079 but I would love to just hear that story of 151 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:29.519 what does. 152 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:31.399 It take to launch a label within vinegar syndrome. 153 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:37.519 So it all depends. I mean, they've been you know, 154 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:41.320 I work with them for fourteen years, like close to 155 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:46.320 fourteen years. The years are hard to hard to gauge 156 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:50.320 at this point, but I love working with them. I 157 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:54.440 love my job, I love doing everything I do, and 158 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:57.240 when they came to me about this, I'm like absolutely, 159 00:08:57.519 --> 00:09:00.879 Like I also can't like we came to each other 160 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:05.000 about this too, and because it is something that's been 161 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:07.200 talked about in previous years. I know we had our 162 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:13.960 uh going back aways, we had a oh man, it's 163 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:14.320 a blur. 164 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:17.080 What was televised? Sarah? 165 00:09:17.320 --> 00:09:17.759 Thank you. 166 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:21.639 Yeah, I've been waiting like a hawk to jump on 167 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:24.159 that because I knew, I figured that was. I know 168 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:27.120 that that that was. That was like a while back, 169 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:28.840 like at least three or four years ago, I want 170 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:29.919 to say. 171 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:33.720 And those I just I love those films too. I 172 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:38.759 love I mean, I've loved TV movies and just I 173 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:41.679 I probably on average do watch more just television shows 174 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:46.759 than movies in general, probably, but like those classic TV movies, 175 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:51.840 I love them. I'm always you know, discovering more and 176 00:09:51.879 --> 00:09:55.799 more too for myself. That and I grew up, like 177 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:58.440 I said, I'm thirty nine, and I grew up in 178 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:01.879 the nineties. I And I'm sure you guys remember this too. 179 00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:07.720 When for some of the younger viewers out there, sometimes 180 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:10.960 if you read TV Guide, they this is before the 181 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:16.000 internet got started, not started, but before like trailers on 182 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:19.519 YouTube or anything like that became a thing. They would 183 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:23.039 premiere trailers on television and it was kind of a 184 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:27.440 big deal. And kind of the little South Park joke 185 00:10:27.919 --> 00:10:30.120 or the whole like where they're waiting for the Terrence 186 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:35.320 and Phillip at movie, the teaser to show Russell Crouch Show, 187 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:41.759 but I stayed up watching for the Jurassic Park the 188 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:46.200 Lost World trailer TV spot was announced it was gonna 189 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:52.360 premiere for the Michael Bean Made for TV movie asteroid. 190 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:57.159 I think it's yeah, and it's a wild one asteroid. 191 00:10:57.200 --> 00:11:00.639 I think hits Dallas, Texas, I believe, And it's it was, 192 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:05.679 you know that it was. The film was like amazing. 193 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:08.240 I thought it was great at the time. It's been 194 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:10.440 it's been a few years since I rewatched it. But 195 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:14.600 and but that was like a thing like you would 196 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:17.759 you would watch TV because you didn't know when a 197 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:23.440 teaser trailer was gonna premiere as it were. So but yeah, 198 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:27.120 it was that, you know. And then in the nineties 199 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:30.559 I watched all made for TV films and then kind 200 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:36.279 of related. One of my favorite television versions, which I 201 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:39.840 know Keno larber Uh put out semi recently, like they 202 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:42.799 probably have the best version is the Needful Things three 203 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:47.360 hour cut, which is you could only watch it on 204 00:11:47.480 --> 00:11:50.159 T and T. I want to say that way back. 205 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.679 When, that's right, Yeah, I remember that very well. 206 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:55.559 Yeah, and with the commercials it was like four hours long. 207 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:57.879 Yeah, yeah, it was a full it was. It was 208 00:11:57.919 --> 00:11:59.840 your Sunday afternoon. But when you're a kid at that 209 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:03.159 age back then, with no like all right chair or 210 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:07.039 like even even means of getting around, like that's how 211 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:10.080 you spent a Sunday afternoon or even like a Sunday 212 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:11.919 night at six o'clock because you know it'd be over 213 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:14.519 at ten and like, and that was during like the 214 00:12:14.559 --> 00:12:18.960 peak Stephen King TV miniseriies movie series era. Yeah. Yeah, 215 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:23.720 Storm of the Century, his version of the Shining and 216 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:25.360 like other stuff like that. 217 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:28.360 Oh yeah, yeah, like all all of that stuff. And 218 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:31.360 then I grew when I was growing up, when I 219 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:33.639 was really young, and I Chris, I may have, I 220 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:35.639 can't remember. I may have mentioned this a little bit 221 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:40.080 in the first episode we talked about. But my when 222 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:43.759 I was like god under ten, like between five and ten, 223 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:48.159 my first exposure to horror movies was through of all people, 224 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:51.720 my grandmother and my great aunt, because they loved watching 225 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:55.200 like seventies and eighties horror movies, but they did not 226 00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:59.039 like watching them by themselves. It didn't matter I was 227 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:01.840 five and ten parte to ten, I I saw a 228 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:05.200 Texas chainsaw and ask a way way too young, like 229 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:08.600 I because I remember the kin the wheelchair getting like 230 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:11.720 chopped up. That still is in my brain seeing that 231 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:13.000 when I was like way too young. 232 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:16.320 But it's only supposed to have a PG rating, right, yeah. 233 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:21.559 I don't know how, like yeah, it's crazy, but related 234 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:25.799 it was that at that time period. I definitely somehow 235 00:13:25.960 --> 00:13:31.639 saw for made for TV films. Uh not which is funny, 236 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:34.440 not Deadly Bees or the Killer Bees or the Savage Bees. 237 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:37.120 I forget that's one of those. Is the original, but 238 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:41.279 the sequel, uh Terror out of the Sky. Uh, somehow 239 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:45.159 I saw that when it was a repeat obviously because 240 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:48.559 it was made in the seventies. But and I I 241 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:51.159 loved it like I loved it back then. I had 242 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:54.840 the Blue right now from Keno two, and uh, it's 243 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:57.440 just one of those where I was just like, wow, 244 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:01.840 I can't believe, like these movies are out there and everything, 245 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:03.799 but when you try to find a tape of it, 246 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:06.519 A lot of the TV movies never made it to 247 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:10.600 tape either. I didn't realize like that was a thing too. 248 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:12.720 A lot of them did. But not a lot of 249 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:14.759 them did not to this day, they still have it. 250 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:18.120 You know, some are some are really tricky to check out. 251 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:24.320 So going forward to now, yeah, since like televised tear, 252 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:27.919 but also since another big favorite of mine I always 253 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:32.360 champion as Moona the Wolf for VSA, I love that 254 00:14:32.679 --> 00:14:36.080 one too, And then we started talking about, you know, hey, 255 00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:39.759 what if we just concentrate on television, anything television related, 256 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:45.519 whether it's a TV movie, miniseries, full episode series. You know, 257 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:47.519 I want to that's what I want to work on too, 258 00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:51.200 and you know, we said, yeah, let's do it. And 259 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:59.360 related around that time was when Warner Brothers was being 260 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:04.120 you know, a deal was being made and which was great, 261 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:08.559 and that's when we started looking you know, through their 262 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:11.879 back catalog too and realized, oh man, we could do 263 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:17.320 a lot of great things for this too, and alongside that, 264 00:15:17.759 --> 00:15:23.120 for what's coming out when people see this too. By 265 00:15:23.159 --> 00:15:26.240 the time people see this, the veil will have been 266 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:33.000 announced outside of Don't Be Afraid the Dark. And not 267 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:35.559 only do I love both of them and it was 268 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:38.799 amazing to work on both of them and get everything out, 269 00:15:38.840 --> 00:15:41.639 but I think it kind of shows what we can do, 270 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:45.840 like not just the big studio own stuff too, but 271 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:51.000 also stuff that is. The Veil arguably has had plenty 272 00:15:51.039 --> 00:15:53.559 of DVD releases in the past, but they've all been 273 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:56.759 kind of like scattershot, you know, some had a couple 274 00:15:56.840 --> 00:15:59.720 extra episodes, some did not, a lot of them did 275 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:03.799 not have those. But the Veil is the first time 276 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:08.200 it's the complete everything related to it, including the two 277 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:11.600 versions of the pilot, which were one of them was 278 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:15.200 really lost forever. But uh, we could get into that 279 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:19.960 in a bit too, so but yeah, it since then, 280 00:16:20.039 --> 00:16:23.320 I'm just excited for what the future holds for Iconoscope 281 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:26.159 and I'm hoping people dig it. 282 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:29.440 So and it's all stuff that was I mean, I 283 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:31.360 think this is an obvious answer, but I still want 284 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:33.240 to ask it. It's all stuff that obviously was shot 285 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:35.720 on film in some capacity, because that's kind of the 286 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:37.919 that that fits with the VA I mean, because most 287 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:41.480 TV movies really up until I would say the streaming era, 288 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:44.720 or even like when when Cable had its like that 289 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:47.200 kind of second Golden Age in two thousand and seven, 290 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:49.320 you know that kind of like post Sopranos mad Men era, 291 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:51.440 even a lot of those were shot on film. But 292 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:54.240 but mostly everything I'm assuming is is shot on film. 293 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:56.600 It's not like it's not like a degoser thing or anything. 294 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.159 No, But at the same time, there may be out 295 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:01.759 on video stuff as well. 296 00:17:01.960 --> 00:17:04.359 That okay, cool. 297 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:07.240 Fits I kind of scope much more than something like 298 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:10.720 even de Gouser necessarily, I'm I'm just gonna leave it 299 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:15.000 at that. Sure, no fair enough, Yeah, but uh, it'll 300 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:17.759 be probably I would say, still like ninety five percent 301 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:20.759 all film, you know, so that even that shot on 302 00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:23.680 video might be few and far between. But uh, yeah, 303 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:26.559 the you know, shot on film. I mean a lot 304 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:30.640 of this is they're beautiful, you know, and like, don't 305 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:34.039 be afraid the dark is they're When you see the bathroom, 306 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:37.240 it's it's weird to say this, but when especially with 307 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:40.720 the new four K transfer of it, it pops so much. 308 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:45.400 Uh that bathroom interior almost looks like a thing out 309 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:48.480 of Suspiria or our Gento at the same time, Yeah, 310 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:50.759 and then you know, the little little guys show up 311 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:53.680 and cause mayhem if we want to be let out. 312 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:56.400 So that's a good question though, Brandon, how what are 313 00:17:56.440 --> 00:17:58.240 what are the names of the first ten as kind 314 00:17:58.240 --> 00:17:59.519 of I kind of scope tetas. 315 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:00.920 I'm just kidding. 316 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:04.920 I you and I for a second, I was like, no, Chris, 317 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:05.559 what are you doing? 318 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:10.720 It threw me for a loop, But no, just only joking. 319 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:14.119 But that's so cool, you know I remember. Yeah, Don't 320 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:15.640 be Afraid of the Dark was such a fun one 321 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.440 to start with too. I feel like anybody over I 322 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:20.759 don't know thirty five is it's just gonna have such 323 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:22.160 a strong memory of that playing. 324 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:27.680 Yeah. It's It's one of those where people just no way, 325 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:30.880 even if they're not necessarily a TV movie fan that 326 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:34.200 I've realized they just a horror fan in general. They're like, 327 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:37.759 oh my god, I remember that. Like, and I've had 328 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:40.000 a couple of people invest with me. They're saying thank 329 00:18:40.039 --> 00:18:43.279 you for releasing but they're like, oh yeah that, like 330 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:47.400 it's so funny, like not Texas Chainsaw, not like the Fridays, 331 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:49.480 But No, Don't be Afraid of the Dark fucked me 332 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:52.480 up when I was like super young because I think 333 00:18:52.599 --> 00:18:56.400 and I kind of understand that, like, yeah, the leather 334 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:01.119 face with a chainsaw, Okay, that's terrifying, but the but 335 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:05.799 little demon demonic guys you might not know are right 336 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:08.920 behind you that. 337 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:11.480 Yeah in your house, Yeah exactly. Texas Chainsaw right with 338 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:15.440 Texas chainsaw. It's like, oh they can, that's like far away. Yeah, 339 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:17.599 there's some kind of you know, it's like this is 340 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:20.400 closer to like Michael Myer's territory with people when they 341 00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:22.920 saw the First Halloween, where it's like, oh yeah, there's 342 00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:25.799 like a doorway probably a basement that got something got 343 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:28.720 cemented up and they're just waiting. They're just waiting to 344 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:32.920 come out and get me. Yeah, very very very creepy. 345 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:36.319 But it's you know, we talked about this on the 346 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:38.720 on the box too, but like, yeah, it's it's it's 347 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:42.079 kind of your problem because you decided to open the door, 348 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:46.440 which the handyman warned you not to. Yeah, we just 349 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:49.279 leave the room alone. Just you don't have to do 350 00:19:49.279 --> 00:19:53.960 anything with it, just you know. And then yeah, it's like. 351 00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:57.839 Yeah, exactly, just don't do it. 352 00:19:58.440 --> 00:20:02.400 Don't do it well. And speaking of the Box, you 353 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:04.680 guys went back to the VSA like it's like a tape, 354 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:07.440 like a cassette being rented because TV movies used to 355 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:09.279 you used to be able to rent them on VHS 356 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:10.319 if they were popular enough. 357 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:13.920 Yeah, now this I should point this out too, because 358 00:20:13.920 --> 00:20:16.359 we haven't really done a video on this. But uh, 359 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:18.920 when people when people get it, they're gonna be like, 360 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:23.079 oh wow, because it's it's it's gonna sound weird, but 361 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:25.720 this is what it is. It's a slip within a slip, 362 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:30.519 and it was I figured out, like we figured out 363 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:34.839 how to make it work. And it's the coolest thing 364 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:39.240 ever I think too. So uh it really kind of 365 00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:43.640 adds to that just kind of collectibility with it too. 366 00:20:43.720 --> 00:20:46.240 But I just wanted to do it like no one 367 00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:48.480 no one has tried it before either maybe they have, 368 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:51.599 but I couldn't get it to work. But this came 369 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:56.640 out so amazing and I hope people will be happy 370 00:20:56.680 --> 00:21:01.880 with it. The artwork that Wes Spnce Goder did is 371 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:05.279 just incredible. Like I love his death metal artwork too, 372 00:21:05.480 --> 00:21:09.039 so about like I love like the Resurrection art word 373 00:21:09.160 --> 00:21:12.440 and he just got that dead Lee spawned for Synaps 374 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:16.119 and know that too. He's just you know, oh and 375 00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:21.400 Devil feed us for us. You know, once you see him, 376 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:23.640 you're like, Okay, I know this guy's paint and he 377 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:26.079 and he still hand paints too to do all this, 378 00:21:26.359 --> 00:21:28.279 So which is amazing. 379 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:32.160 Is that is it gonna be like the And I 380 00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:33.759 guess people will obviously see it when they get it. 381 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:35.599 But is it like the male You scene box where 382 00:21:35.640 --> 00:21:37.240 when you bring it obviously the male You scene when 383 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:39.119 it's attached, but like when you bring the case down, 384 00:21:39.119 --> 00:21:41.400 does the movie actually come out from the side. 385 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:45.200 Yeah, so the inner slip, that's how it's I actually 386 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.319 got the idea. I asked and Stephen Stephen at District 387 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:51.200 picks mail you scene. Steven Morowitz has been a big 388 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:55.519 help with the iconoscope process as well. He's like, oh, yeah, dude, 389 00:21:55.759 --> 00:22:00.279 do it because it's it's great and and we didn't 390 00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:02.559 know if a slip within a slip was gonna work 391 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:06.359 necessarily too, but it does and it actually it's pretty 392 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:12.119 freaking awesome too. And yeah, it that and the veil 393 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:16.039 one came out amazing too when people see that. Lucas 394 00:22:17.079 --> 00:22:21.599 Peveril he did the artwork for that, and we've been 395 00:22:21.640 --> 00:22:25.599 working with Sarah Karloff and the Boris Karloff Estate. She 396 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:28.920 loved the artwork. She folio approved it. There's a there's 397 00:22:28.920 --> 00:22:31.079 a little interview I did with Sarah as well on 398 00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:36.240 there too, and but yeah, it's been it. It came 399 00:22:36.279 --> 00:22:40.319 out incredible and I'm really proud of the work I 400 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:44.160 did and we did, and everyone involved with this who 401 00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:48.799 put it together, and I guess there is a little 402 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:51.319 bit of Cloud nine on it that they're finally out, 403 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:55.359 and I'm excited for what people can see in the 404 00:22:55.440 --> 00:23:00.240 future too. And it's it's cool because it's not just 405 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:03.039 gonna be like Warner Brothers stuff too. There's plenty of 406 00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:06.799 other things that are coming out to There's a bunch 407 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:10.559 of long term projects. I can't even get into too much. 408 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:13.519 They're long term for a bunch of reasons, but they're 409 00:23:13.799 --> 00:23:16.960 kind of as long as I kind of scope does well, 410 00:23:17.119 --> 00:23:19.960 we can keep going on them. But there there's like 411 00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:24.400 Lost series, there's gonna be some ones like kind of 412 00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:29.400 Rediscovery up for Rediscovery too, and hopefully some pretty big 413 00:23:29.559 --> 00:23:34.640 mainstream series as well. I will say TV series versus 414 00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:37.960 a TV versus a ninety minute TV movie, even a 415 00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:43.039 three hour mini series versus a full series, I've now learned, 416 00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:46.759 and I think it goes without saying, is a lot 417 00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:52.000 more work than you know, just doing the ninety minutes 418 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:53.359 or so, or even then. 419 00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:58.039 I'm sure sorry, I'm sure you have a million questions too, 420 00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:01.160 But something you said just kind of curious. You know, 421 00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:03.559 Anchor Bay back in the in the Golden era was 422 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:06.720 pretty good about. I still have a ton of Anchor 423 00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:10.000 Bay shows that were fairly obscure, Like I'm thinking, I 424 00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:12.480 think it's called Greatest show on Earth that superhero kind 425 00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:12.920 of obscure. 426 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:15.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep. There's there's a lot of great 427 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:15.839 ones too, like. 428 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:16.880 Those those type of things. 429 00:24:16.920 --> 00:24:19.160 Right, So without naming names, like are there is there 430 00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:21.440 a chance that will get some first time to blue 431 00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:25.359 or four K stuff that's was previously on like an 432 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:30.039 Anchor Bay type or shot early shout, you know, those types. 433 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:37.559 Possibly, I also have to relook at stuff. And there's 434 00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:42.279 kind of big ones too that we were asking about, 435 00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:45.920 and we'll see. You just never know what what is 436 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:46.519 down the pike. 437 00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:46.880 Uh. 438 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:52.039 That being said, there's ones internally that we've discovered that 439 00:24:52.200 --> 00:24:57.720 we're trying to figure out going forward again. But the again, 440 00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:01.920 they are long term though, like I don't I don't 441 00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:04.160 want to say, like, yeah, I don't expect it at 442 00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:07.920 this like twenty twenty six at all, even twenty twenty 443 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:13.079 seven is certainly possible. And then but yeah, there's there's 444 00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:17.559 a lot coming down the pike. And yeah, but the 445 00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:21.240 TV movies coming up are great, like they're all just 446 00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:28.799 ones that are just like NonStop basically, and yeah, there's 447 00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:31.680 going to be I think some interesting surprises for a 448 00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:32.880 lot of people too, who. 449 00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:35.160 Like you. 450 00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:39.480 I don't want people to necessarily know what they are 451 00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:42.559 going to experience, like I do talk about in the 452 00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:45.240 video like genre being a big part of it, and 453 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:49.079 it will be too, But there might be some kind 454 00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:54.759 of like different discoveries for you know, never on disc 455 00:25:54.880 --> 00:25:58.599 before or anything like that either that I hope people 456 00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:01.920 can take a chance on to So but that's that's great. 457 00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:05.279 That's like every sub label too, or even partner labels. 458 00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:08.359 You just you just don't know, you know so totally 459 00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:11.240 and I think, oh, sorry, go ahead, I don't know. 460 00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:13.839 But so far the response has been pretty great. I 461 00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:16.599 think people have been pretty stoked on it, and but 462 00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:19.200 I want people to once they have it in their hands, 463 00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:22.319 I think people will be a bit more so on it. 464 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:27.839 So yeah, I think two things off that. One is like, 465 00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:30.400 before I get to my question, what's really exciting about 466 00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:33.000 that is I don't think people know because one thing 467 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:35.359 I think people have fun with whenever vs. Is like 468 00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:38.279 specifically towards the end of a month, is trying to 469 00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:41.640 guess the titles right. Yeah, and you guys put some clues, 470 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:43.559 you put some artwork out, and I have to say, 471 00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:46.759 like sometimes people there are some people I'm incredibly impressed 472 00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:50.319 that they're like detective skills for that stuff. But oh yeah, 473 00:26:50.359 --> 00:26:52.880 I think one thing that helps narrow it down for 474 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:55.599 a lot of people, oftentimes even for myself and I 475 00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:56.960 have I would say I probably have a fifty to 476 00:26:57.000 --> 00:26:59.200 fifty guess rate like most people probably do. But like 477 00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:01.039 I would say, a lot of that would narrow down 478 00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:03.200 to like if it's MGM or Paramount, you know, people 479 00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:05.680 could see you know that. And I think having WB 480 00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:10.000 obviously opens up that guess and that surprise more. But 481 00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:12.759 I think what really is exciting about that for Iconoscope 482 00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:14.880 that I think a lot of people don't know is 483 00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:18.960 that from this era specifically anything prior. I shouldn't even 484 00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:21.200 say from this era. I should say anything before the nineties, 485 00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:25.000 even before all these things became like conglomerates, they weren't 486 00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:29.119 owned by the same companies, so like so like for example, 487 00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:33.039 there's stuff that like Paramount might have might own, but 488 00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:37.400 it aired on ABC, and at the time what Paramount 489 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:40.480 wasn't CBS. I don't even think it was like Gulf 490 00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:43.039 and Western Probably I don't even know their history well 491 00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:45.079 enough to speak on that. But like, I just mean, 492 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:47.440 like it's interesting because there's stuff that I think people 493 00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:49.279 are going to try and guess or like look for. 494 00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:52.440 And it's exciting because there were so few channels, so 495 00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:55.000 a lot of it was still studio produced without being 496 00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:59.039 owned by those by those networks. That's really exciting. 497 00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:02.119 Yeah. God, I want to be really vague with this, 498 00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:05.279 but it's it's tough. Like the next one, that's uh, 499 00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:08.160 i'll call it. We'll call it a Kondo Scope number three. 500 00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:12.000 I think we'll really throw people for a loop and say, Okay, 501 00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:15.839 the possibilities are very open. Then well what going on? 502 00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:18.079 And I gotta I really gotta leave it at that. 503 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:21.759 That's that's enough. That's enough my appetites. We please don't Yeah, yeah, 504 00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:24.599 I mean I think the discovery is super exciting. My my, 505 00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:28.000 I guess my question off that talk about like Scope three, 506 00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:31.079 how many a year are you like trying to put 507 00:28:31.119 --> 00:28:34.000 out or what's the kind of the goal. 508 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:39.640 And try because just everyone is so like so involved 509 00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:44.160 and like with other things to myself included too. I 510 00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:47.119 I don't want to rush it either. I don't wanna 511 00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:51.440 be I have like, you know, I would love for 512 00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:54.279 it to be okay, once a month, once a month, 513 00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:57.440 once a month, and that's not gonna be that way. 514 00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:00.319 At least for now. We are gonna probab take a 515 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:05.559 break after this hopefully fit. Maybe we can possibly bring 516 00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:09.519 it up depending on how you know, it goes with 517 00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:13.200 icon of scope for the next couple few months. But 518 00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:18.119 we will see that is probably I would say during 519 00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:21.960 the summer sometime is the next one. And yeah, that's 520 00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:26.240 a big break in between. But there's this year especially 521 00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:30.240 coming out, there's so many great Vinegar Syndrome cinematograph everything 522 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:35.759 coming out is just I think it's people kind of 523 00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:39.839 saw with when we announced the Demon Warp. It's something 524 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:43.839 which I that has been a I will say that 525 00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:47.400 one's been a very requested one since I started at 526 00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:51.079 Vineiger Syndrome or since Vinegar Syndrome like started. It was like, oh, 527 00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.839 demon warp, you gotta put And you know that's been 528 00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:56.880 you know, on people's on all of our radars too. 529 00:29:57.039 --> 00:29:59.759 But it's just one of those which has been you know, 530 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.400 possible to get until it wasn't impossible. 531 00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.640 To get, you know, I mean, Eli and I hear 532 00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:09.519 from what a small percentage of subscribers just on the 533 00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:12.359 discord right, but I know at least two people that 534 00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:15.079 subscribe because they saw that and they were like, oh shit, okay, 535 00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:16.400 maybe this will be a pretty great year. 536 00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:20.440 Yeah, there are some pretty freaking awesome ones. And then 537 00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:24.119 she's sorry to get ahead of it, but like Lady 538 00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:27.519 and White, I know that all three cuts on UHD 539 00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:31.880 brand new restoration of that one too. That and we 540 00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:35.000 really went like the full half mile. If you could 541 00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:39.039 get Curtis on just just to talk about putting okay 542 00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:43.440 cuts together because that one's been his I don't want 543 00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:50.440 to say craziness, but but it's he just went just crazy, 544 00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:54.799 just you know, all engines running to get me. 545 00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:55.759 He's the guy to do it right. 546 00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:59.759 Yeah, based on new just insane getting it done. But 547 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:01.880 it's gonna beautiful. 548 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:03.119 That's that's awesome. 549 00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:03.799 I I I. 550 00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:07.519 That's one thing that I really love And maybe you 551 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:09.839 can actually just to circle it back to this the 552 00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:12.720 mainline announcements for this month. One thing, one thing I 553 00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:14.640 really love is that you guys really put in a 554 00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:18.559 lot of work into the alternate cuts with like truly 555 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:21.759 being seamless, like it's very like like and obviously when 556 00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:23.519 you can't. You'll even put a warning that's like, hey, 557 00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:26.920 this was sourced from an interpositive in Europe for for 558 00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:28.920 two minutes, or you know whatever, like like just in 559 00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:30.960 terms of where you can source things sometimes or even 560 00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:32.640 like with the Carpenter where there's a kind of like 561 00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:35.440 the the SD elements that kind of add to that. 562 00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:37.279 But but I don't know, I think it kind of 563 00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:39.480 adds to the mood sometimes, Like I love don't get 564 00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:42.160 me wrong, I love a pristine press presentation. But sometimes 565 00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:44.640 it's nice to get a grindhouse movie in grindhouse mode. 566 00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:48.240 You know, it's just because it's also that's just a 567 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:51.200 historical thing. I I when we had Joe on I 568 00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.160 remember he talked to you kind of was like a 569 00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:54.920 little bit would always say like he's always a little 570 00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:57.400 disappointed when it's not like a better element, And I 571 00:31:57.480 --> 00:31:59.079 told him, I'm like that. You know, in a lot 572 00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:02.200 of ways, though, is advocacy of what's in danger of 573 00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:05.640 correct having this being the most available element. So all 574 00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:08.359 that being said, I love that when you guys do 575 00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:11.000 get like a movie that has different versions, that it's 576 00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:13.960 all these different ones. One of my favorite ones growing 577 00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:17.799 up that existed that way was Terror Firmer. I was 578 00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:20.599 a very big trauma phile in high school and when 579 00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:23.359 I got that two disc Trauma DVD. I don't know 580 00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:24.559 if you know this, Chris, I don't know if you 581 00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:28.119 saw this version, but Lloyd Kaufman had did an R 582 00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.960 rated cut of Terror Firmer, and what he did instead 583 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:35.079 of actually making an R rated movie, he just inserted 584 00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:37.799 himself talking about what happens in the scene and kind 585 00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:40.119 of acting it out. So there's like a scene where 586 00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:42.359 he comes in and as the blind director and pisses 587 00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:44.920 all over like Debi, Rashaan and someone else having sex 588 00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:47.359 in the bathroom. Yeah, and then in the R rated 589 00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:50.599 version he takes like literal p's from a frozen P 590 00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:52.960 bag and starts throwing them onto like a drawing of 591 00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:57.200 them like stick figures. Is that version on the four 592 00:32:57.319 --> 00:33:00.279 K for Terror Firmer? Do you know or do you 593 00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:01.279 guys work on that at all? 594 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:04.200 That part? I don't know. Those might be in the 595 00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:06.799 deleted scenes for honestly, yeah. 596 00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:07.000 But we do. 597 00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.680 We do have the full uncut version and other people 598 00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:11.839 on the flip side people have been asking about the 599 00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:15.839 infamous h full frontal shots, which I don't want to 600 00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:19.640 spoil that too too much. We'll call it the climax 601 00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:24.680 of the film. Yes, it is the fully uncut version. 602 00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:26.759 And then now here's where I'm confused. 603 00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:28.799 We do have the. 604 00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:35.000 Extend like super extended version as well, that might some 605 00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:37.559 of that might be in there too. I'm not again 606 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:40.079 Terra firmers one that had so many cuts on it too, 607 00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:43.319 like involved with it. That being said, we do have 608 00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:47.680 the full uncut version on the UHD, and then we 609 00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:52.079 do have h Scott. It's yeah, three D set including 610 00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.640 the UHD, so the we do have more than one cut, 611 00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:59.279 and then all the deleted footage too, so it's it's 612 00:33:59.319 --> 00:33:59.599 a lot. 613 00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:03.759 That's great. I didn't realize it was a three disc set. 614 00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:05.039 That's aws for say, in my head, I thought it 615 00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:06.759 was two discs, so oh, it for sure has to 616 00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:09.440 be there. If it's not, like if it's not there 617 00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:11.880 as oh you know what, Yeah, it says alternate unused 618 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.119 mock behind the scenes footage. Yeah, that's it. 619 00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:18.599 They're okay, because there there's this is another like TCM two. 620 00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:22.159 If people realize, like how many freaking hours of behind 621 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.800 the scenes footage? Yeah, we have a brand new making 622 00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:28.199 of on it. It's amazing, and then we still have 623 00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:32.639 the old uh, what's it called Farts of Darkness for that. Yeah, 624 00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:35.880 and all the extras from the previous ones are on 625 00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:39.639 it too. There's just so much and I get it. 626 00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:44.800 This was like one of his like personal, truly personal 627 00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:48.559 trauma projects to it, and all the stories are just 628 00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.239 insane and larous. It's like what what you see in 629 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.039 the film basically was how it was behind the scenes 630 00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:55.760 as well too. 631 00:34:56.039 --> 00:34:59.519 So yeah, I'm really excited for that one. I'm also 632 00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:02.480 exciting you guys brought back Made in Hong Kong that 633 00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:05.880 was like dormant for years, and you have another one 634 00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:09.000 teased later in October or August or somewhere, like an 635 00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:10.760 horror all horror one two. 636 00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:14.320 Yeah, there's there's a lot of crazy Hong Kong Cat 637 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:17.000 three and I know we talk about more Shaw films 638 00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:20.760 too coming out too. There's a lot of great, amazing 639 00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:24.719 films coming out. But for this for Made in Hong 640 00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:28.840 Kong two is the number one film I think is 641 00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:32.320 really up for rediscovery. Is it's called It's had a 642 00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:36.119 few different titles. We call it the one that's what 643 00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:41.119 people know it as here New York Chinatown Massacre and 644 00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:45.599 I never heard of it before I started. We started 645 00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:50.679 working on it, and it was just when I saw 646 00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:54.079 the footage, I'm like, holy shit, this is insane, Like 647 00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:57.679 it's it's it's one of those where it was made 648 00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:01.079 in eighty two, I want to say, and or at 649 00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:03.880 least it might. It's one of those you never know 650 00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:06.360 when it was seen in the US effort. It could 651 00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:09.559 have been a couple of years later, and it's had. 652 00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:11.960 This is another one where it's had more than one cut, 653 00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:14.440 like we do. We did have to unfortunately use some 654 00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:17.079 s but like you said, to complete it for the 655 00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:21.760 full uncut experience, find some SD footage to complete the 656 00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:28.079 entire version of it. But it is Have you guys 657 00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:29.199 seen Men from the Gutter? 658 00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:31.159 Yeah, oh yeah, loved it. 659 00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:36.800 Yeah that imagine that. But then those like sensibilities where 660 00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:42.679 it's it's not quite a heroic bloodshed film per se, 661 00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:47.000 it's not or like the Triad on triad violent ones 662 00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:50.280 like the people really would know from the nineties and 663 00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.920 you and all of that, but it's kind of those 664 00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:59.480 sensibilities and it's incredible, like what and they shot it, 665 00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:02.880 They brought it to New York City, they shot like 666 00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:05.480 when you could when the whole foreign production. This was 667 00:37:05.559 --> 00:37:08.880 the same era as like when Falcy and his crew 668 00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:11.159 came to New York for the New York Ripper, you know, 669 00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:15.480 and they would shoot in New York. And but this 670 00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:18.119 is when you see some of the action scenes when 671 00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:21.159 you see the shootouts and you're like, how the hell 672 00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:24.960 did they do this? Like and apparently they did have 673 00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:29.320 like permits and everything, but like it's I know, in 674 00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:31.960 the pre you could see like it's not just gang 675 00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:35.719 on gang shootouts. It's like no, they they like steal 676 00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:38.599 weapons from like a National Guard depot and start shooting 677 00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:42.960 M sixteen downtown New York City and Chinatown and everything, 678 00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:46.440 and it's just there's I think like one or two 679 00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:51.480 crazy car chases too, and it's it's insane, like what 680 00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:53.480 happens with it? I think part of it they shoot 681 00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:57.199 They shot at like Riker's Island too. It's so bizarre. 682 00:37:57.840 --> 00:37:59.960 And that's not even that's not even the hermit yaout 683 00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:01.320 erected one. That's what's crazy. 684 00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:06.719 Yeah, No, the Herman Yea one's amazing too. That's the best. 685 00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.320 Is just one of those like oh my god, like 686 00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:14.280 you could tell like, okay, this is Herman. What's funny 687 00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:16.760 is he talks about it being for him it was 688 00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:21.000 a director for hire job and you know he likes it, 689 00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:22.719 but it's it's not one of his favorites. He didn't 690 00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:24.679 think he did his best. But you're watching and you're like, dude, 691 00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:26.960 this is like John wu what are you talking about? 692 00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.599 This is like you know, oh yeah, it's it's the 693 00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:32.599 same thing with Men from the Gutter, right like he 694 00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:35.119 I'm sure Lamb doesn't even think that was like a 695 00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:37.360 Lamb that felt like for Lamb, like a one for them, 696 00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:39.719 you know, like it's not even and and I'm like, well, 697 00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:42.320 if this is, if this is Lamb at like like 698 00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:46.239 an easy mode, of course, that's still gonna fucking rip. 699 00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:49.280 That's like everybody else is like trying their hardest, you 700 00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:51.519 know what I mean, Like that that dude's fucking probably 701 00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:53.480 is having a cigarette break while it was happening at 702 00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:54.519 the whole movie. 703 00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:56.840 Men from the Gutters, Like dude watching it, like, dude, 704 00:38:57.519 --> 00:38:59.559 what are you talking about? You made heat basically and 705 00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:04.360 yeah in the eighties, like yeah, and but best of 706 00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:07.280 the best is great because it's, uh, it's just one 707 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:12.239 of those again, like it's borderline heroic, bloodshed full on 708 00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:17.039 and yeah, he yeah, I think people know him from 709 00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:19.840 like a Ball of Syndrome and then more like horror 710 00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:25.400 and just Cat three, just crazy, creamy sleaziness. This is 711 00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:29.480 him doing the hardcore shootout action and he does it 712 00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:32.800 with the best of them as well. And it's funny 713 00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:35.280 because we know again we interviewed. I mean, he doesn't 714 00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:38.800 feel that, but I'm like you did, but okay, whatever 715 00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:39.239 you think. 716 00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:41.880 But yeah, it's amazing and. 717 00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:47.280 It's really quick. A great extra on it is Erica Schultz. 718 00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:49.280 From The U. 719 00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:53.400 Yeah, she does an amazing video essay and which I 720 00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:58.679 never knew this, but when canto pop and filmmaking and 721 00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:02.039 all of that inter acted, when canto pop stars became 722 00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:06.639 you know, action stars in their own run, and it's 723 00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:11.440 it's pretty wild. Just everything in that world too well. 724 00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:14.480 There's always people on the Vineger Syndrome discord that ask like, 725 00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:15.519 what about this? What about that? 726 00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:17.960 And I was telling them, hey, y best of the 727 00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:22.159 best is enough for that whole set. But it's really 728 00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:24.840 good news to hear about New York Chinatown massacre. Yeah, 729 00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:27.039 and I yeah, sorry ahead. 730 00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:29.239 No, no, it's just one I want people to know, 731 00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.280 like we will, we will warrant it. When you pop 732 00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:34.880 in the disc there is s D footage inserted and 733 00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.280 it's just the It was the only way to complete 734 00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:41.599 the film too, unfortunately. But uh, and it was one 735 00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:44.599 where they they want the where we got the film 736 00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:48.039 elements the original negative they warn't and said, hey, we 737 00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:50.519 are like ninety nine percent sure that this is unfortunately 738 00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:54.000 cut and we have no idea where any of the 739 00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:58.280 film is. And like with really quickly with Devil Fetus, 740 00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:02.639 we you know, we had amazing luck with that with 741 00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:06.119 other films too, where we are able to complete the 742 00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:09.719 whole thing from film and we were working with AGFA, 743 00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:13.599 working with private collectors to who have this stuff. Everybody 744 00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:16.480 we talked to was like New York Chinatown massacre or 745 00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:19.639 New York China and they're like, I never heard of it, 746 00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.559 or be you we have nothing on that at all. 747 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:26.599 And but yeah, we you know, we we got to 748 00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.840 get together. Curtis that amazing on it to get it together, 749 00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:34.960 and I really hope people rediscover it and going into 750 00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:38.920 the third film really quick Final Justice it is it 751 00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:42.239 was a misright fix that it's not Stephen Chow version. 752 00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:49.320 This is a very interesting drama and it's weird because 753 00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:53.880 like huh drama, a courtroom drama. And I really like 754 00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:57.039 it because it's you know, got really the main guy 755 00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:01.840 from oh god, what is it? The uh the cat 756 00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:04.360 three almost version of Backdraft? 757 00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:11.639 Oh h no, no, the one you guys put out right, Lifeline. 758 00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:14.480 Life, Lifeline, Thank you very much. God, you do you 759 00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:17.000 do so many movies over the years, like two months ago, 760 00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:18.679 I don't remember totally. 761 00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:20.679 I believe it. Actually I want to talk about that 762 00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:23.480 a little later, but I can only imagine. I can't 763 00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:26.800 see that, like even I like, I'm sure Joe and 764 00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:30.840 and and Ryan they probably just know what they've put out. 765 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:33.960 But even there is one time when I met Joe 766 00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:36.960 in person and I told him I showed a soft 767 00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:39.880 cut of Barber broadcast yeah for Pussycat Theater night, And 768 00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:41.800 he even said, he goes, there's a soft version of that, 769 00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:44.079 And I'm like, it's on the distrip picks Blu ray 770 00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:49.480 or right right, yeah, yeah, it's really funny when that uh, 771 00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:51.719 when that happens. But I also thought about it in 772 00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:54.280 my head. I'm like, man, the size of that fucking warehouse. 773 00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:57.920 How could it's impressive that he even remembers what he remembers, right, So, 774 00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:00.519 like that's totally yeah, no, no worries. But sorry you 775 00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:03.239 were saying, so, yeah, the guy from Lifeline. 776 00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:05.880 Is in Yeah, he plays the priest, the head priest 777 00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:10.119 in it. And it's again it's one of those, you know, 778 00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:12.840 interesting dramas that I don't think people expect to go 779 00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:19.559 into borderline. Cat three territory as well, and it we 780 00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:21.559 were like, we got to include this because this is 781 00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:25.000 very different. No, no one else is gonna like see 782 00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:27.079 this any any other way, so like we gotta we 783 00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:30.559 gotta have this and hopefully people rediscover it and really 784 00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:31.119 like it too. 785 00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:32.960 Cat three twelve Angry Men. 786 00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:36.239 Well, not quite like that, but this one has to 787 00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:39.400 do with like, you know, it's borderline, but it's like 788 00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:44.000 there's like, you know, a rape, you know, it goes. 789 00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:47.519 Into rape that goes into Cat three Oh my god. 790 00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:50.440 But it goes into like all these weird things you 791 00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:54.039 don't expect it to. Of course, Triad may be involved, 792 00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:56.320 and you know, you just don't know where it's gonna go. 793 00:43:56.440 --> 00:44:00.519 So but yeah, so it's a really great that I 794 00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:02.039 hope people really get into it. 795 00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:03.920 Well, I just want to call it before we move 796 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:06.679 on between this one, this video essay and the video 797 00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:15.320 essay on Chinese twitchers. Yeah, chamber torture, chamber story. I 798 00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:18.760 wanted to Erica Schultz has some of the best work. Like, 799 00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:21.039 I'm just so impressed with her. Between the fact that 800 00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:23.559 you all got Sam Deagan on staff and then Erica 801 00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:27.360 doing features, I just and then Amanda Oh, yeah, are 802 00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:28.960 just some of the best people working today. 803 00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:29.480 It's amazing. 804 00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:31.679 Yeah and not oh. 805 00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:33.280 I just want to say not to jump too much 806 00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:36.199 over it, but with with Iconoscope, I was actually curious 807 00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:38.880 because I fully expected as soon as I heard of Iconoscope, 808 00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:41.119 I'm like Amanda Reas for sure, like I know she'll 809 00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:43.400 be there and say for a commentary, but how did 810 00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:46.159 you get like what was the meat to get the 811 00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:51.280 group commentary for like Jeffrey Reddick because the writer and 812 00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:53.039 Sean Abley, Like how. 813 00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:56.519 Does stuff say that that's like archival, That's okay. They 814 00:44:56.599 --> 00:44:58.840 did that for the Warner Archive disc and same for 815 00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:05.239 the commentary now out. Unfortunately, the way it unfortunately worked, 816 00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:08.199 weren't able to really get as many new extra really 817 00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:11.039 any new extras that I want to get on it. 818 00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.840 Going back again, this is part of it. Like I'm 819 00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:18.159 really happy to have you know, a bunch of other 820 00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:21.639 people involved doing the extras going forward to maybe we 821 00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:24.400 can revisit it going forward. We were able to actually 822 00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:27.920 shoot at the New Hall mansion a little locations featurette 823 00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:31.119 then and now. They were really great shooting at the house, 824 00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:35.119 and we did get a new booklet essay from Amanda 825 00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:38.199 ray As as well. And to get really into the 826 00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:41.880 director's career, John Newland, who for Don't Be Afraid of 827 00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:44.360 the Dark cause aside from that, he had an amazing 828 00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:49.000 career doing kind of you know, one Step Beyond. People 829 00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:51.679 would know him from kind of that Twilight Zone almost 830 00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:56.719 precursor type deal, but he also was involved with Star Trek. 831 00:45:56.840 --> 00:45:59.559 He was involved with a ton of other projects and 832 00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:05.679 not only that, but seeing all of that get together 833 00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:09.000 was really great. Now. Unfortunately, one thing I have discovered 834 00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:15.159 too made for TV films on aside from like you know, 835 00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:18.000 more power to them, like something like Salem's Lot and 836 00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:23.239 something like that, it's really hard to get people all too, 837 00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:26.440 you know, and yeah it can't it can be. It 838 00:46:26.519 --> 00:46:28.599 can be, is what we're discovering. 839 00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:30.119 You know. 840 00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:35.320 The lead We we tried, every everybody tried, you know, 841 00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:40.880 going through all the channels, direct contact too. For unfortunately, 842 00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:44.079 the Ken Darby and it wasn't even a yes or no, 843 00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:48.480 it was just she was not returning. She actually I 844 00:46:48.519 --> 00:46:50.800 don't know what happened. She called me back, but then 845 00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:52.719 I picked up and then she hung up on it, 846 00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:58.000 and then I don't know what, and then nothing and 847 00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:01.039 you know, hey, if you don't don't want to be involved, 848 00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:05.480 totally fine, you know. And it's just one of those things, unfortunately, 849 00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:10.840 and like, but what the commentaries do have in the 850 00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:15.599 book essay are just such great info, especially with this production, 851 00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:19.920 and it's really good with this in particular. I'm just 852 00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:23.000 so proud of the restoration and the scan on this 853 00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:28.480 and all the work that went involved, like and I'm 854 00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:33.519 hoping people get into it, and going forward to you know, 855 00:47:33.800 --> 00:47:38.039 there will be a lot more extras, you know, involved, 856 00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:41.920 I think with every release going forward to so you know, 857 00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:44.559 I can only say I, you know, I and we 858 00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:49.519 did our best for getting this together. That being said, 859 00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:56.119 the Veil was more much more loaded experience, and we 860 00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:58.320 can get into that afterward as well. 861 00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:01.639 Actually, let's just jump right into that one right now, 862 00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:03.760 I think, because it's it's another one from from this month. 863 00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:05.559 We only have one other one from the main line. 864 00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:07.599 We can we can circle back to that, But like 865 00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:09.880 as far as as far as the Veil goes, this 866 00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:12.320 is I think the one that's it. What a great 867 00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:13.840 one two punch because you have a you have a 868 00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:16.719 great creepy little horror movie right with the four K, 869 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:20.119 and now you're getting this awesome series that And I'll 870 00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:22.760 admit I wasn't familiar with it at all, and I 871 00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:26.280 have I have a pretty good like from from growing 872 00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:28.039 up on a lot of TV movies and stuff. And 873 00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:30.679 my my my roommate is really because he's he's he's 874 00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:33.000 a little bit older than me, has like a real 875 00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:35.000 good booklet of knowledge with this stuff. So when I 876 00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:37.519 even told him about it, he knew about the Veil, 877 00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:41.159 but he really he knew, uh, don't be afraid of 878 00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:43.079 the dark, like, and he was like, oh, that's awesome 879 00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:46.000 that they're giving a four K. So with with the Veil, 880 00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:49.960 how familiar with you were you with this yourself? And 881 00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:53.199 I mean, I know it's accessible to some capacity like people, Yeah, 882 00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:55.679 you can find find some of it, but obviously you're 883 00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:59.519 you're doing some real You're you're bringing some stuff there 884 00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:02.039 that even people who know the show probably haven't seen. 885 00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:05.960 So the veil. It's one of those crazy things, and 886 00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:10.280 a big shout out to film historian and author and publisher. 887 00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:14.320 It's kind of has been doing this for years, Tom Weaver, 888 00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:18.400 because he really wrote the book literally on the veil. 889 00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:22.519 I think it scripts from the Crypt number seven it's called. 890 00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:26.599 And I knew about the veil even before this. I 891 00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:30.679 remember in my video store on a say they had 892 00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:34.960 at one like my local one. They definitely had one 893 00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:39.840 or two of the Something Weird nineties tapes and or 894 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:43.159 two thousands tapes I believe. I can't remember exactly it was. 895 00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:46.519 Actually it might have been Rhino Video if I'm not 896 00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:48.159 mistaken who actually put it out. 897 00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:53.079 On probably that totally has Yeah, yeah, I'm not mistaken. 898 00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:55.639 I don't want to be mistaken on that. Yeah, it 899 00:49:56.519 --> 00:49:58.639 because it had such a crazy release and we get 900 00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:03.360 into it with the extra specifically for that, and but 901 00:50:03.519 --> 00:50:05.320 Tom we were he said it best. You know, this 902 00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:10.440 is one of those things where they shot the entire 903 00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:16.000 series nineteen fifty eight to fifty nine, I believe, and 904 00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:18.920 it never aired. It was just one of those things 905 00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:22.119 that just never aired and then it was kind of 906 00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:29.559 basically lost essentially for until late seventies. I believe. But 907 00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:33.800 before that, in the sixties, someone got a hold of 908 00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:38.119 the footage and they basically, like for lack of a 909 00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:43.559 vetteran forced edited them into like almost fake but enough 910 00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:48.599 to show in theaters anthology horror films like where they 911 00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:53.159 edited the episodes and then they didn't shoot anything new either. 912 00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:56.800 They just worked the edits to say, Okay, here's a 913 00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:00.800 here's a new anthology horror film. You know, at the 914 00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:03.960 time of like Amakiss and stuff like that, when like 915 00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:07.000 people who would be like, wait, this has Boris Karlov 916 00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:09.280 in it, I don't think this is new, like said, 917 00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:14.920 but it did get on local television. Finally in the 918 00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:18.320 late seventies, I want to say, into the eighties, that's 919 00:51:18.360 --> 00:51:22.719 when people really started to see it, and it had 920 00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:29.840 a even on DVD and everything. Various DVD labels have 921 00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:32.239 put it out over there because it's technically public domain, 922 00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:37.280 so you know, and but you know, no one has 923 00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:40.119 except for something weird, no one has worked with a 924 00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:44.000 direct film before and it's something weird with their movie 925 00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:47.840 lab which is now with us with District Picks, you know, 926 00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:50.760 in house. And Lisa has been an amazing help with 927 00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:55.159 this as well. For her knowledge but also because Mike Rainey, 928 00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:58.079 you know, really got it together. And one of Tom 929 00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:04.480 Weaver's commentaries he actually has an actor like recreate when 930 00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:08.320 he interviewed Mike Vraaney way back when and talking about 931 00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:12.519 how Mike Rainy found the Veil and getting into the 932 00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:19.519 series with that. And it's pretty crazy because even I'm 933 00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:23.119 sure people who like you know, private collectors and everything 934 00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:27.760 who really go looking for film and everything too, it's 935 00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:31.719 almost impossible to hear about discovering a whole almost a 936 00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:35.360 whole series, yeah in one spot, you know, that's just 937 00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:40.000 unheard of. But yeah, we have the complete series of that, 938 00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:45.679 and we also have now some release. Some of the 939 00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:49.119 DVDs had it way back when, even before Something Weird 940 00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:54.199 always from Beat to Hell tapes transfers and everything, but 941 00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:56.519 it was really only one or two out of all 942 00:52:56.599 --> 00:53:00.760 the crazy public domain duties had it. Otherwise, every DVD 943 00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:04.599 you know, Something Weird included, he would get ten episodes, 944 00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:11.119 well there were technically eleven, technically twelve episodes produced. It's 945 00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:14.880 so weird. One of the episodes, Jack the Ripper, they 946 00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:18.159 shot an intro and outro with Boris Karloff, but he's 947 00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:20.239 not actually it's the one where he's not actually in 948 00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:24.440 it either. They definitely took footage from another from a 949 00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:29.239 British show or movie and re edit it into a 950 00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:34.440 veil episode. And then there was an actual veil episode 951 00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:38.599 called Peggy also known as Whatever Happened to Peggy, which 952 00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:42.840 sometimes was found and put on, sometimes was not, and 953 00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:45.719 we were able to get filmed for that as well 954 00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:48.599 finally and actually put that on. I think the only 955 00:53:48.920 --> 00:53:52.159 SD thing on the entire disc that we had to 956 00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:57.320 use was the intro and outro, just the credits, the 957 00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:01.960 opening and credits for that episode Peggy. Otherwise everything is 958 00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:07.440 from film. Another big shout out to UCLA. They have 959 00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:13.639 the backdoor pilot the Vestress, which oh yeah, so they 960 00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:18.559 had a great print of that, and it's the original. 961 00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:22.320 It's called The Telephone Time. It was for Telephone Time 962 00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:27.239 Playhouse or something like that and still produced by hal 963 00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:30.440 Roach Studios. That's kind of why it's considered a backdoor pilot. 964 00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:33.880 Like Boris Karloff is in it, but he doesn't do 965 00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:38.039 the intro outro. We keep the old Telephone Time ads 966 00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:42.000 in and it's weird because they're not quite commercials. They're 967 00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:44.920 more like weird PSAs about why you and your family 968 00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:51.480 should use telephones. It's bizarre for the fifties even. But 969 00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:55.480 what we also found, which shout out to a private collector, 970 00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:59.079 Pays Brunner, who found this like years ago too. He 971 00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:04.719 found the Vestress was re edited to become a Veil 972 00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:09.000 episode with a Boris Karloff intro and outro, and that 973 00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:13.159 really hasn't been seen, I don't think since they was 974 00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:19.679 supposed to air wo and that is included. The other big, 975 00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:25.559 big thing that's included is this was a lost to 976 00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:32.760 just every everywhere episode of it's called the Schlitz Playhouse 977 00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:36.079 for the Stars. Amanda Areas is actually the commentary on 978 00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:40.960 this because it's it's fascinating like the Beer Company. Yeah, 979 00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:44.559 they had a television series way because back then in 980 00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:48.719 the fifties before like Top Twilight Zone, before Utter Limits, 981 00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:53.880 before Chiller, like for all these shows. And yes there 982 00:55:53.960 --> 00:55:58.199 were scripted like half hour shows, you know, stuff like that, 983 00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:02.559 but otherwise there it was all anthologies. And because it 984 00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:05.360 was the easiest thing to show was you take a play, 985 00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:08.400 you shoot in one or two locations tops and you 986 00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:12.599 get it done in like under a week. And one 987 00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:15.480 of these yeah, uh, you never knew who would sponsor 988 00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:18.480 it either, Like, but yeah, Schlitz Schlitz Beer had a 989 00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:23.400 uh had a series that ran. It ran a long, 990 00:56:23.559 --> 00:56:25.559 it ran a while too, like over well over one 991 00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:30.599 hundred something episodes. Wow, A lot of these series, A 992 00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:32.639 lot of them. A lot of the episodes are lost 993 00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:35.800 in general. But one of them we found, you know 994 00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:38.880 it was it was actually an eBay listing. I think 995 00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:41.719 we got that. We're like, oh crap, let's let's go 996 00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:45.519 after it too, and did an all new four K 997 00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:47.920 scan of it and I think it's the best ever. 998 00:56:48.039 --> 00:56:51.320 Gonna look, who knows where the negative is at this point. 999 00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:54.480 It's from a print, but it's called House of Death, 1000 00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:59.400 and it's a horror we'll call it horror adjacent. Uh, 1001 00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:03.519 it's more of a kind of a thriller mystery. So 1002 00:57:03.719 --> 00:57:07.119 it's got Boris Karloff in the lead. It's another one 1003 00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:10.599 he just did, and he's great in it. The other 1004 00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:14.559 people involved are just amazing, and Amanda Rayes really gets 1005 00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:17.079 into the nuts and bolts of who's involved. But what's 1006 00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:20.199 the craziest thing which is connected to our world here 1007 00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:23.880 is it's one of the fur very first things A 1008 00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:28.800 guy named William Asher directed and for those who are 1009 00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:32.719 like where do I know that name? Well, many years later, 1010 00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:37.239 like god, almost thirty years later. He one of the 1011 00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:41.679 few films he directed, because he directed primarily television, was 1012 00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:47.079 of all things, Butcher Baker Nightmare Makers, right, yeah, yeah, 1013 00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:51.480 and so that's a crazy connection. Yeah. One of his 1014 00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:55.480 very first things he ever directed was with Boris Karloff 1015 00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:59.840 in the nineteen fifties, and that's kind of where and 1016 00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:03.199 that was a very lost thing. A lot of people 1017 00:58:03.400 --> 00:58:06.920 like they knew the title, like the title that's shown 1018 00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:09.000 up in places, but no one ever saw it before. 1019 00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:11.760 And I think people will be really excited to see it. 1020 00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:17.039 And again going into just finishing off the extras for 1021 00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:22.320 that Sarah Karloff new interview with her about everything mostly 1022 00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:25.840 again like Carloff's just television career in the fifties and 1023 00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:30.199 when that got involved to excuse me. And the other 1024 00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:35.960 great interview we did was with the creator Frank Beats, 1025 00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:37.599 his daughter Barbara. 1026 00:58:38.119 --> 00:58:39.039 She co wrote the. 1027 00:58:39.079 --> 00:58:43.719 Book with Tom Weaver, and she just has amazing stories 1028 00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:46.880 about his life and career and stories about making the 1029 00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:49.840 veil too, and amazing. It's just great to see and 1030 00:58:50.320 --> 00:58:53.960 and you know it's been scanning and restored that this 1031 00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:56.199 is one we were able to physically do in house too, 1032 00:58:56.800 --> 00:59:01.360 and it just came out amazing, the whole package. I'm 1033 00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:04.559 really really proud of that too. And yeah, hopefully people 1034 00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:09.559 rediscover it. And I know nowadays it can be tougher too, 1035 00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:12.039 but I hope people take a chance on black and 1036 00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:14.559 white and television for that matter. 1037 00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:17.480 Well, so I was gonna ask, is is this you know, 1038 00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:20.280 between VSL, and maybe that's a good segue into talking 1039 00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:22.679 about the VSL for the month as well, But between 1040 00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:24.519 VSL and the kind of scope you now kind of 1041 00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:26.679 have a natural excuse to go into the fifties and 1042 00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:29.679 forties if you can, right, yeah exactly, I would say, 1043 00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:34.599 so yeah, so yeah, and you do meet people who 1044 00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:37.000 just do not like black and white at all, you know, 1045 00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:37.840 that's the same. 1046 00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:40.239 But that's like what people who don't like subtitles. That's there. 1047 00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:43.079 But it sucks, It really sucks. But it is a 1048 00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:46.920 shame because especially with the advancements of technology. Let me 1049 00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:49.639 tell you, man, I mean, I know not everybody can 1050 00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:52.159 afford it, but I got really lucky myself. I was 1051 00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:54.440 able to get an OLED really cheap. And let me 1052 00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:56.800 tell you, watching Black and White on an OLED is 1053 00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:00.840 game changing. I like, I can't wait when it doesn't 1054 01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:02.000 even have to be a four KKE, just be a 1055 01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:05.199 blu ray but anything. The inkiness of it, like kind 1056 01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:07.280 of it's really I think is the closest you can 1057 01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:11.320 get to seeing it in a theater again or you know, 1058 01:00:11.480 --> 01:00:13.400 in any capacity of it. It just looks so good 1059 01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:15.920 because people talk about usually I think with HDR and 1060 01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:18.639 with in general, with four K and OLED, people talk 1061 01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:22.000 about how the colors pop, but also the way the 1062 01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:28.920 the black. Yeah, the contrast is just incredible. I can't 1063 01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:30.960 stress enough that, Like it's even but you know what 1064 01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:33.119 that being said, even on like a regular LED, they 1065 01:00:33.159 --> 01:00:36.039 still look as good as they're ever gonna look. So 1066 01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:39.079 it is strange because with all this talk about like 1067 01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:43.480 Golden age for physical media, I think like people can 1068 01:00:43.559 --> 01:00:45.519 really take that for granted. I think people also take 1069 01:00:45.559 --> 01:00:47.679 for granted just to bring it back to Hong Kong 1070 01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:50.599 for a second, Like I don't think people realize the 1071 01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:53.159 reason there's such a prolific drop in this like like 1072 01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:55.719 not just from VS, but from Shout from Arrow from 1073 01:00:56.280 --> 01:00:58.840 eighty eight. Everybody, Yeah, yeah, everybody's getting in on it 1074 01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:03.920 because for twenty fucking years. It was impossible to see. 1075 01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:08.199 I grew up on that stuff on VCDs and and 1076 01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:11.320 like and like bootleg DVDs and vhs is with them 1077 01:01:11.400 --> 01:01:15.000 that are poorly subtitled, poorly frame, poorly transferred, and some 1078 01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:17.000 of the some of them don't even you know, like 1079 01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:20.280 that Severn Bruce Playtation Box. That's a great example. Yeah, 1080 01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:22.800 it's one of the one of my favorite releases of 1081 01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:25.440 twenty twenty four. But also, like you know, they had 1082 01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:27.800 to source some of those just from prints from private 1083 01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:30.880 collectors because that's all that's left. And that's a great 1084 01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:33.239 example of showing like like for the ones that they 1085 01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:35.599 have that they were able to properly restore it alongside 1086 01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:39.360 it that like there's stuff that you just can't Unfortunately, 1087 01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:42.840 that's the best version you can get. So if that's 1088 01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:45.320 the case for some of these, why wouldn't you be 1089 01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:50.039 excited for the other hundreds that are actually being properly resubtitled, 1090 01:01:50.119 --> 01:01:53.840 properly restored. Because nubev has a Hong Kong night, they 1091 01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:56.519 do some pretty rare stuff here in LA at least 1092 01:01:56.559 --> 01:02:00.199 to at least once a month, and you know, they're 1093 01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:02.559 obviously released prints most of the time they're very rarely 1094 01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:06.079 newly struck like preserved prints, and even those the subtitles 1095 01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:09.519 sometimes there is like burnt in Filipino subtitles with the 1096 01:02:09.639 --> 01:02:13.760 English subtitles or you know, yeah, I saw some move 1097 01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:15.840 They showed some Moonlee movie where it was like literally 1098 01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:19.320 like three sets of subtitles. But like, you know, you 1099 01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:22.800 can tell that that that the movie you weren't watching 1100 01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:24.719 the version that was intended, not just in terms of 1101 01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:27.719 the what's being spoken and translated, but even like a 1102 01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:30.559 shootout scene or like a plot point, you can tell 1103 01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:33.280 there's something missing. So the fact that all this stuff's 1104 01:02:33.280 --> 01:02:35.840 coming in uncut, all at once, I don't know, it's 1105 01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:39.239 it's it's so exciting to me to be able to 1106 01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:42.719 get all that now, you know, because there's only so 1107 01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:44.719 much I think people can take it for granted, because 1108 01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:48.880 there's only so much regional exploitation. I think at some 1109 01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:50.639 point people are gonna be like, well, what's with all 1110 01:02:50.679 --> 01:02:52.559 the regional exploitation, what's with all the you know what 1111 01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:54.000 I mean, Like, I think no one's ever gonna be 1112 01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:56.400 happy with that. So yeah, so I think it's great 1113 01:02:56.519 --> 01:02:59.519 that also are basically going on this long tangent just 1114 01:02:59.559 --> 01:03:03.079 to say that, like it's great that there's not just 1115 01:03:03.199 --> 01:03:05.480 Hong Kong but also like made for TV movies, Like 1116 01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:07.960 there's so many different facets. And that also goes to 1117 01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:11.679 the melusine side where it's not just like a peak 1118 01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:13.800 a peak rama and a quality X release. There's also 1119 01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:16.719 like district picks, there's the new pink line that you 1120 01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:19.960 guys a fucking milling It Brothers Mitchell Brothers. 1121 01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:24.519 Yeah, amazing films. 1122 01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:27.280 Yeah, and and Chris and I are going to get 1123 01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:29.400 into this when we do like the review episode of Celeste. 1124 01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:33.559 But but the that behind the green Door release is 1125 01:03:34.079 --> 01:03:37.920 essential and is like a great example of what VS 1126 01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:43.159 does with with Like the special features are incredible, the 1127 01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:46.639 transfer is fantastic, and like contextualizing it is fantastic. And 1128 01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:49.440 so that's what I like about Like even with that Iconoscope, 1129 01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:52.159 you're doing the same thing obviously, like involving the karlaf 1130 01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:54.679 estate and not just licensing it from them, you know 1131 01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:55.960 and getting the thumbs up from them. 1132 01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:58.639 Yeah, and like we didn't you didn't technically have to 1133 01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:01.239 at all, you know, you know, it's one of those 1134 01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:03.480 it's old enough, it's almost you know, public domain, but 1135 01:04:03.639 --> 01:04:05.440 like we're like, no, we got it. We got to 1136 01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:07.199 include them, We got to talk to him about this, 1137 01:04:07.440 --> 01:04:11.760 you know, and like just anyone who was involved getting 1138 01:04:12.119 --> 01:04:14.159 the word out about the veil over the years, and 1139 01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:18.000 like real quick, like Something Weird had a great booklet 1140 01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:22.840 originally with the DVD, and that original essay has Tom 1141 01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:25.000 Weaver and like, hey, do you want to revise and 1142 01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:27.719 expand upon it and everything? He's like, oh, yeah, definitely, 1143 01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:31.400 and he took that, he revised it, expanded upon it 1144 01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:35.320 big time and booklet came out amazing too, because there 1145 01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:38.000 was a lot of people involved with this one in particular. 1146 01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:42.400 And but yeah, I'm hoping people rediscover kind of all 1147 01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:46.280 of this, and you know, whether it's just film, whether 1148 01:04:46.400 --> 01:04:51.039 it's you know, weird television movies and series or adult 1149 01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:54.239 films and yeah, films from Hong Kong. I hope people 1150 01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:58.880 take a chance on any of this from any label too, you. 1151 01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:02.960 Know, yeah, totally. Before we get back to VSL and 1152 01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:05.960 and the other subscriber, one thing I wanted to ask 1153 01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:08.840 earlier when you brought up Something Weird, I just want 1154 01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:10.800 to clarify because I remember reading the release that there 1155 01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:12.519 was like a team up with distrip Picks and something 1156 01:05:12.559 --> 01:05:16.599 Weird video, but it is actually like something Weird Video 1157 01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:19.559 is now part of the VS family completely, right, like 1158 01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:23.119 it's all or or is Something Weird still their own 1159 01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:25.880 thing that just brought some titles into you guys. 1160 01:05:26.199 --> 01:05:30.719 No there, it's kind of both. Okay that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, 1161 01:05:31.039 --> 01:05:33.760 Like you know, lisas Something Weird video they do, they 1162 01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:35.800 do their own thing as well, but a lot of 1163 01:05:35.840 --> 01:05:40.440 the movie lab Something Weird collection ended up with Distripicks, 1164 01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:43.800 which it's been brought into Vinegar Syndrome Film Archives, so 1165 01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:46.719 that's kind of the whole connection. And actually yeah, stuff 1166 01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:48.599 like behind the Green Door stuff like the nest thing, 1167 01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:54.880 they all go into that as well too. So but 1168 01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:58.079 but yeah they Yeah, it's kind of all one big 1169 01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:03.440 crazy family. I guess you kind of yeah, so, but yeah, 1170 01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:07.519 Lisa has been amazing with the word out yeah about 1171 01:06:07.559 --> 01:06:10.079 this too, and we'll not getting the word out until 1172 01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:16.679 we're officially announced. Uh but yeah, it's it's very exciting. 1173 01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:20.360 It's really exciting to be involved with that. And and 1174 01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:24.159 real quick, one thing I do love is the uh 1175 01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:29.679 distre Picks Something Weird collaborations with the uh like s 1176 01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:34.079 Exploitation ones as well, and those have been just incredible 1177 01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:36.760 because I I knew kind of about them from the 1178 01:06:36.920 --> 01:06:39.199 Something Weird Duty, but I the DVD's and such. But 1179 01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:42.000 I and like David Friedman, you know, I knew about 1180 01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:45.519 like the that S Exploitation documentary, but I never sat 1181 01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:48.079 down to like really watch any of them until now 1182 01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:54.119 basically and yeah them and restore them and they're just incredible. 1183 01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:54.400 It was. 1184 01:06:54.519 --> 01:06:58.760 It was a whole weird era of there because they're 1185 01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:03.519 not fully all either the exploitation their softcore, but like 1186 01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:06.760 they had a lot of fun, but they also took 1187 01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:11.039 chances with shooting them and got really psychedelic, and a 1188 01:07:11.079 --> 01:07:15.119 lot of them and or had just great sleazy but 1189 01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:18.519 beautiful black and white, especially the New York early really 1190 01:07:18.599 --> 01:07:19.159 early ones. 1191 01:07:19.599 --> 01:07:20.719 Yeah, like like Career Bed. 1192 01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:24.920 Yeah, it's just it's just crazy with all of that too. 1193 01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:29.920 And then especially like the Fat Buck Pussycat and Yeah, 1194 01:07:30.519 --> 01:07:30.800 oh I. 1195 01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:33.440 Love that double Yeah, yeah, the Confessions of a PSYCHOA. 1196 01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:35.519 Yeah, they're just insane. 1197 01:07:35.880 --> 01:07:39.360 So you know, the one you guys just put out 1198 01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:41.480 a great just a great testament of that is the 1199 01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:45.480 David Friedman double of Yeah, the Adult, the Adult Jacqueline 1200 01:07:45.519 --> 01:07:46.199 Hyde and the. 1201 01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:48.199 Yeah. 1202 01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:51.760 Because that booklet you guys included incredible it really and 1203 01:07:51.960 --> 01:07:54.079 and my take on both of those movies, I had 1204 01:07:54.119 --> 01:07:55.880 that exact same thought that you had just said, where 1205 01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:58.239 I'm like, oh, this is just a hardcore movie that 1206 01:07:58.440 --> 01:08:01.280 just doesn't that just opted out of penetration, even though 1207 01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:03.559 I'm pretty sure a few scenes were unsimulated, and then 1208 01:08:03.599 --> 01:08:08.039 the booklet kind of sort of confirms that, and you're like, damn, 1209 01:08:08.079 --> 01:08:10.599 I wonder how this would have played if this was 1210 01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:12.440 a porno. Because these were made right at the same 1211 01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:14.280 time as Behind the Green Door, it was actually like 1212 01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:16.920 really fitting to release them all kind of in the 1213 01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:20.199 same month, Like it really kind of it's like it's 1214 01:08:20.279 --> 01:08:22.960 really representative of an era which I love, and I 1215 01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:25.720 think that that's really exciting that, Like every time I 1216 01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:28.760 see a District Picks double announced, I'm really excited for 1217 01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:30.680 it for that reason. I mean, that's that's really much, 1218 01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:36.119 very much in my wheelhouse because it's great, great stuff. Yeah, sorry, Chris, 1219 01:08:36.159 --> 01:08:37.239 I think you were about to say something. 1220 01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:38.920 No, it's okay. 1221 01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:41.159 I was just gonna say, before we move too much 1222 01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:43.880 on from Hong Kong, y'all have an angel in your 1223 01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:48.159 at least not maybe not staff, but at least in 1224 01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:52.479 your circle named Pearl, Right, from Kanye Y, from. 1225 01:08:52.439 --> 01:08:56.960 Connie too, and she is incredible just getting this all 1226 01:08:57.039 --> 01:09:01.199 together and just has been We're like a guardian angel 1227 01:09:01.359 --> 01:09:05.880 to our shepherd even to get all these through in 1228 01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:06.920 the end so well. 1229 01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:08.920 Because that's there's so much in Hong Kong movies. And 1230 01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:10.720 I learned this from Mike and Arna, but I think 1231 01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:13.079 there's a good example of this too. There's so much 1232 01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:17.479 context that's lost if you weren't around at the time 1233 01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:19.960 these movies were being made. Because even even if it's 1234 01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:22.359 a period piece like a Wisha period piece, they might 1235 01:09:22.439 --> 01:09:25.239 still slip in slang or some kind of reference if 1236 01:09:25.319 --> 01:09:27.199 especially if it's a comedy or something. And I think 1237 01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:30.279 having somebody like Frank Jang or Pearl that knows that 1238 01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:33.239 has that historical context, it makes it into the subtitles 1239 01:09:33.239 --> 01:09:35.239 and then it becomes it comes more alive. 1240 01:09:35.399 --> 01:09:39.319 Right. Yeah. And Pearl actually she did a great featurette 1241 01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:43.319 with going Back Real Quick to Ebola Syndrome. It's a 1242 01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:46.000 great feature atte with Herman Yao, and they talk about 1243 01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:51.279 like sometimes translating Cantonese and even a manderin it could 1244 01:09:51.279 --> 01:09:55.680 be tough because there are multiple meanings to different words 1245 01:09:55.760 --> 01:09:58.359 and some of it is slang, and even the slang 1246 01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:02.079 can have multiple versions, and well which one's right? Well 1247 01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:04.560 they're both right and or they're both wrong. 1248 01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:11.479 It's like I always always attributed to reading Miguel a Servant. 1249 01:10:11.560 --> 01:10:11.880 What's the. 1250 01:10:13.880 --> 01:10:17.159 What's the Miguel Servant is don Quixote? Don Quixote? 1251 01:10:17.479 --> 01:10:19.560 Yeah, I've always heard this is from one of my 1252 01:10:19.640 --> 01:10:24.399 earliest memories of like English class unless you speak ancient Spanish, 1253 01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:26.279 the miss like half the jokes. 1254 01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:27.880 Yeah, it's still a. 1255 01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:30.359 Really funny book, but it's just like if you at 1256 01:10:30.399 --> 01:10:32.159 the time, it's the funniest thing you've ever seen. 1257 01:10:32.479 --> 01:10:35.760 Yeah, apparently, Yeah that's anyway. 1258 01:10:36.359 --> 01:10:38.920 Well, so what about like before we get into cinematograph, 1259 01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:41.119 what about VSL because we tapped on that earlier, So 1260 01:10:41.359 --> 01:10:43.239 what tell us a little bit about the VSL title? 1261 01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:47.560 Real quick? One more? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, is uh, 1262 01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:50.000 because I don't want it to get lost, because it's 1263 01:10:50.359 --> 01:10:54.119 it's been lost a lot since it's been its releases. 1264 01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:57.119 But Dario Gento's Phantom of the Opera I want to 1265 01:10:57.199 --> 01:11:01.720 talk about too, and that is one where I think 1266 01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:04.720 it's gotten kind of a bad rep you know, some 1267 01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:07.359 people say that too, and I agree, But I love 1268 01:11:07.439 --> 01:11:09.800 it well, I was gonna say, I don't agree. I 1269 01:11:09.840 --> 01:11:14.119 think it's amazing, you know, and it's a beautiful, it's 1270 01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:18.680 gory as hell. Yeah, and you know, resting power to 1271 01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:23.920 seeing great uh you know, uh, Julian Warner again too, 1272 01:11:24.359 --> 01:11:28.840 and they're Julian Sands sorry Jesus David Warren, but seeing 1273 01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:32.479 Julian stands again and any capacity in any film is 1274 01:11:33.199 --> 01:11:37.119 great and fantastic, and you know, all of his work 1275 01:11:37.159 --> 01:11:40.359 can be really appreciated, and this is one where he 1276 01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:44.319 did such a great job in this and it is amazing, 1277 01:11:44.600 --> 01:11:49.520 and I hope people do really rediscover this one because 1278 01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:53.720 it again, it's gotten a bad rep I think unnecessary. 1279 01:11:53.840 --> 01:11:57.319 A lot of our Gento's you know, we'll call him, 1280 01:11:57.720 --> 01:12:01.000 you know, nineties on where basically after Stendhall Syndrome have 1281 01:12:01.079 --> 01:12:04.600 gotten really bad reps, and I don't think they're deserved 1282 01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:06.800 at all. I think a lot of them are fantastic 1283 01:12:06.880 --> 01:12:09.840 films and I hope people see that too. And this 1284 01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:16.000 is another loaded, amazing package with just every interview you want, 1285 01:12:16.159 --> 01:12:17.039 you know, I. 1286 01:12:17.319 --> 01:12:18.520 Just want to. I want to. I want to be 1287 01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:20.680 a testament to that for a second, because I'm always 1288 01:12:20.680 --> 01:12:22.119 happy to eat my words when I have to. And 1289 01:12:22.119 --> 01:12:25.000 I remember when Stenhall was announced, I was like, all right, fine, 1290 01:12:25.239 --> 01:12:27.520 you know I didn't. I wasn't. I wasn't upset, but 1291 01:12:27.640 --> 01:12:30.560 it was I. I shrugged pretty basically, I was like, okay, cool, 1292 01:12:30.840 --> 01:12:32.279 but you know what, I hadn't seen it in twenty 1293 01:12:32.319 --> 01:12:32.840 plus years. 1294 01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:33.560 I was And and. 1295 01:12:35.079 --> 01:12:36.840 I think what people run into a lot of the 1296 01:12:36.880 --> 01:12:40.520 problems with the later Argento stuff is is Brett Brevity 1297 01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:43.680 isn't there? You know, these these movies tlalking at two hours, 1298 01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:45.439 and depending on how you feel about the movie, you 1299 01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:48.319 can you can kind of feel it. But when I 1300 01:12:48.399 --> 01:12:53.079 rewatched Stenhall this weekend, I was like, oh, I was wrong. 1301 01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:56.359 This is good. This is this is a good movie. 1302 01:12:56.439 --> 01:12:59.039 This really deals with uh, stuff that I think people 1303 01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:01.960 would say is too on the now, you know, like, 1304 01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:05.279 and it's in how it deals with trauma. Even though 1305 01:13:05.319 --> 01:13:07.359 you made another movie called trauma. This actually I think 1306 01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:09.439 it should really be the one called trauma. 1307 01:13:09.880 --> 01:13:11.520 Yeah, definitely, I agree. 1308 01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:14.199 But yeah, and that really speaks to that, and which 1309 01:13:14.319 --> 01:13:17.239 made me more open to Phantom getting announced. When I 1310 01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:19.479 saw that announcement, I was like, and I've been waiting 1311 01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:21.520 on Terror Firmer because I've been dying to revisit it, 1312 01:13:22.800 --> 01:13:25.239 and like, so these two back to back. I was like, 1313 01:13:25.319 --> 01:13:27.520 oh great, and I'm glad you circled back to it 1314 01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:30.960 because you know, it's cool that these get region A 1315 01:13:31.239 --> 01:13:33.039 like four k's you know, you guys get to restore 1316 01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:35.720 them from the negatives. They look great and they they 1317 01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:39.079 what what's really fun about them? And to each their 1318 01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:40.720 own on how they pursue this part. But you know 1319 01:13:41.479 --> 01:13:46.079 the effects are so unbelievably nineties. Yeah, and you really 1320 01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:48.840 the the I think this is the one place where 1321 01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:51.159 four K makes it something very interesting in a make 1322 01:13:51.239 --> 01:13:55.039 or break because it really reveals kind of a certain look. 1323 01:13:55.319 --> 01:13:57.720 And like I said, when you guys did Virtuosity, that's 1324 01:13:57.800 --> 01:14:01.159 one of my favorite nineties I love that movie very 1325 01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:02.479 very dearly. 1326 01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:06.560 And I forgot I forgot completely about UFC in like 1327 01:14:06.840 --> 01:14:11.000 nineties early UFC totally that film at all, you know, 1328 01:14:11.239 --> 01:14:12.920 so that was insane to see. 1329 01:14:13.039 --> 01:14:16.479 So that's awesome. I was like so excited about that, 1330 01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:18.880 and like, yeah, I love that that UFC sequence, but 1331 01:14:19.039 --> 01:14:21.239 like also just you get to see the effects and 1332 01:14:21.319 --> 01:14:25.119 how they look in four K. It's really funny because 1333 01:14:25.119 --> 01:14:27.279 who knows how those were rendered back then and what 1334 01:14:27.479 --> 01:14:29.079 what resolutions. 1335 01:14:28.439 --> 01:14:32.520 So to be at that upscale and like, I'll you know, 1336 01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:36.439 even more power to them when like something like Star 1337 01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:38.840 Trek and the series and the movies where they re 1338 01:14:39.079 --> 01:14:43.159 rendered the effects and like them from the beginning. A 1339 01:14:43.279 --> 01:14:46.560 lot of these they're like, nope, like this negative and 1340 01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:48.760 this film is like all that the best that exists 1341 01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:53.119 for these particular effects. You know, you'd have to basically 1342 01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:53.640 make them. 1343 01:14:54.199 --> 01:14:55.640 That's like that's how it should be. 1344 01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:57.039 I mean, I know we're on the same page here, 1345 01:14:57.119 --> 01:14:59.359 so it's ye, like but like you don't need to 1346 01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:01.560 go redoce Star you don't need to redo a these movies. 1347 01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:04.319 Like people can they can wrap their minds around the 1348 01:15:04.359 --> 01:15:06.520 fact that this is a fifties sixty seventies like you know, 1349 01:15:07.039 --> 01:15:07.760 like people get it. 1350 01:15:08.119 --> 01:15:09.600 You just just show it how it was shown at 1351 01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:09.840 the time. 1352 01:15:10.279 --> 01:15:13.000 That's actually a great bridge. We almost forgot about this. 1353 01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:16.039 Speaking of things that like really pop like in four 1354 01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:18.439 K with these like really like kind of sort of 1355 01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:22.640 analog digital hybrids of the nineties. Tank Girl gotta be. 1356 01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:26.960 Ss yeah, the big one. Yeah, saying that for last time. 1357 01:15:27.319 --> 01:15:29.680 Oh okay, yeah, yeah, let's let's. 1358 01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:33.399 Jump anto it now because Tank Girl is just amazing 1359 01:15:34.439 --> 01:15:38.039 one of those, and it looked great before this, but man, 1360 01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:41.840 the four K talk about popping. It's just incredible. It 1361 01:15:41.960 --> 01:15:45.720 was shot for like the ultimate you know, eye popping 1362 01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:48.199 color as much as you can in the apocalypse, I 1363 01:15:48.199 --> 01:15:50.720 guess the post apocalyptic world. I guess you'd say, uh, 1364 01:15:51.399 --> 01:15:53.760 and especially with like the animated sequences. 1365 01:15:54.439 --> 01:15:56.720 That's what I thought of the first thing you talking 1366 01:15:56.760 --> 01:15:58.039 about that it. 1367 01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:02.279 Was crazy Again. I'll other loaded disc with all new extras. 1368 01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:05.720 We have a kind of a great featurette that Claudia 1369 01:16:05.880 --> 01:16:07.920 Proble and produced to She did a lot of the 1370 01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:12.039 production on this one, especially, but where the director and 1371 01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:14.680 I believe that one of the original comic book artists, 1372 01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:19.119 if I'm not mistaken. They it's a teaching class on 1373 01:16:19.399 --> 01:16:23.720 drawing tank Girl nowadays too, and it's it's pretty it's 1374 01:16:23.760 --> 01:16:27.439 pretty interesting and h So, yeah, that's a cool feature atte. 1375 01:16:27.479 --> 01:16:32.319 But yeah, new Lori Petty interview and it's just revisiting 1376 01:16:32.399 --> 01:16:35.479 it now. It's still top tier film. 1377 01:16:35.960 --> 01:16:37.880 You know, that was when when I was growing up. 1378 01:16:37.920 --> 01:16:39.560 I think we're all roughly around the same age, but 1379 01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:41.479 when I was growing up, tank Girl had a specific 1380 01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:45.079 place as this sort of like feminine power movie that 1381 01:16:45.199 --> 01:16:45.800 wasn't cheesy. 1382 01:16:46.359 --> 01:16:49.239 Yeah, like it was just fun and like, you know, 1383 01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:49.920 it was great. 1384 01:16:50.119 --> 01:16:52.239 Yeah, and it was a really kind of a cultural movement. 1385 01:16:52.279 --> 01:16:54.399 It was one that you you would sort of you 1386 01:16:54.479 --> 01:16:56.199 can almost tell if you're going to like somebody or 1387 01:16:56.239 --> 01:16:58.760 not based on how they how interested they weren't seeing it, 1388 01:16:58.800 --> 01:16:59.600 whether or not they like it. 1389 01:16:59.640 --> 01:17:00.199 That's when thing. 1390 01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:02.640 Yeah, people that were just like, I'm never going to 1391 01:17:02.680 --> 01:17:04.159 see it, that's dumb, and you're kind of like, oh, okay, 1392 01:17:04.159 --> 01:17:05.680 I'm not going to be friends with you, Like that's okay. 1393 01:17:06.920 --> 01:17:08.600 But this is like a very defining movie for a 1394 01:17:08.600 --> 01:17:09.079 lot of people. 1395 01:17:09.119 --> 01:17:12.800 I think, oh yeah, And it's just the soundtrack is 1396 01:17:13.079 --> 01:17:16.520 amazing too, especially nowadays re listening to it, and then 1397 01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:19.560 I think, it's all the movies I've watched ate at 1398 01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:22.199 least the first time, you know, I'm a punk fan too, 1399 01:17:22.319 --> 01:17:25.840 and hearing face to face in uh you know in 1400 01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:29.520 this was just like, Wow, Okay, I forgot that was it. 1401 01:17:31.439 --> 01:17:34.399 Anker was one. It had been probably yeah, like twenty 1402 01:17:34.479 --> 01:17:37.640 twenty five years since I saw it until we restored 1403 01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:41.760 it too. So it's so that's a loaded amazing vsu 1404 01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:45.399 uh worth worth it. It's just it's just so. 1405 01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:49.079 Good, so did you there's no there's no behind the 1406 01:17:49.079 --> 01:17:51.119 scenes features for many of the musicians, though, right. 1407 01:17:51.840 --> 01:17:54.640 I don't think we know. That's okay, we realized. I 1408 01:17:54.680 --> 01:17:57.600 think I think we did presume and we just couldn't 1409 01:17:57.600 --> 01:18:01.159 get any of it. I thought there is really look 1410 01:18:01.199 --> 01:18:01.800 at it here. 1411 01:18:02.039 --> 01:18:03.319 I haven't pulled up right now, I can tell you 1412 01:18:03.399 --> 01:18:05.880 there's there's You're right, I see it here. A new 1413 01:18:05.880 --> 01:18:09.880 featurette with director Rachel Talalay and artist Gary Baseman. Yeah. Oh, 1414 01:18:10.039 --> 01:18:12.039 you guys got Catherine Hardwick to do an interview. 1415 01:18:12.119 --> 01:18:16.119 That's awesome. Ye, she's great too. But yeah, I don't 1416 01:18:16.239 --> 01:18:19.560 believe anything. Yeah, anything to unfortunately too. But we did 1417 01:18:19.600 --> 01:18:21.920 get the new stuff about the Rippers, which is really 1418 01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:27.199 cool to see from Winston Studio. And yeah, just again 1419 01:18:27.319 --> 01:18:30.439 another film which people haven't seen it or just heard 1420 01:18:30.479 --> 01:18:33.439 about it. They haven't taken a look at it, you know, 1421 01:18:33.600 --> 01:18:37.720 in years or ever. I hope people see it, especially 1422 01:18:37.800 --> 01:18:40.840 nowadays with like the Mad Max and Fury Riosa and 1423 01:18:41.039 --> 01:18:43.600 all of that. Go to Tank Girl because it's. 1424 01:18:43.439 --> 01:18:46.039 A lot of fun it And you have at the 1425 01:18:46.720 --> 01:18:49.800 some some kind of friends of vs. Heather Draine and 1426 01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:54.560 Elizabeth Burchell doing some essay work too, so that that's awesome. 1427 01:18:54.680 --> 01:18:56.960 Yeah, they all do great work for this too. 1428 01:18:57.199 --> 01:19:01.319 So yeah, I love all of the disc producers that 1429 01:19:01.399 --> 01:19:01.680 you all have. 1430 01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:04.640 You got really lucky, I think. But just since you're 1431 01:19:04.680 --> 01:19:06.600 here in case this helps her good at promotion. I 1432 01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:09.319 want to say, I love when Claudia produces a disc 1433 01:19:09.439 --> 01:19:14.840 because it's the art design, the production design, the She's 1434 01:19:14.840 --> 01:19:18.159 just got such a visual imagination, visual mind with her 1435 01:19:18.199 --> 01:19:20.560 background that I just I love. I can always see 1436 01:19:20.680 --> 01:19:22.199 like when it's one of her discs and I get 1437 01:19:22.199 --> 01:19:24.720 excited because it's like a it's like, you know, she 1438 01:19:24.840 --> 01:19:26.760 really digs into like the vibe and the feel and 1439 01:19:26.840 --> 01:19:28.479 the and the you know, the way the movie kind 1440 01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:29.439 of touches you, which I love. 1441 01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:34.560 Oh yeah, absolutely so she and you and also you 1442 01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:37.319 and can't do they do fantastic work also. Yeah, and 1443 01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:40.079 just you know, we were very lucky in the producers 1444 01:19:40.119 --> 01:19:43.039 who were work with, uh Elijah Dreunner another big one 1445 01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:47.720 who doesn't work too, and you know, we're very lucky 1446 01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:50.239 with who were able to get you know, producing all 1447 01:19:50.279 --> 01:19:50.720 this stuff. 1448 01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:54.319 So when when you guys do location, that's one of 1449 01:19:54.359 --> 01:19:56.600 my favorite for features when they go to like visit 1450 01:19:56.720 --> 01:19:59.520 locations I think I think Elijah did a few of 1451 01:19:59.560 --> 01:20:01.279 those that could be wrong, but I just remember like 1452 01:20:01.319 --> 01:20:02.600 there was a good yeah and then you guys, you 1453 01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:04.239 guys got one. One of my favorite ones was for 1454 01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:08.640 Crackhouse with the VSA Oh yeah, yeah, great great features. 1455 01:20:09.279 --> 01:20:10.880 I just because well because you know what it is. 1456 01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:12.640 I I the reason I bring that one up is 1457 01:20:12.680 --> 01:20:14.880 that I think with one thing you guys kind of 1458 01:20:14.880 --> 01:20:16.840 get just naturally built into a lot of the movies 1459 01:20:16.880 --> 01:20:19.600 you restore is good New York footage or good San 1460 01:20:19.680 --> 01:20:22.039 Francisco footage, not just in the not just on the 1461 01:20:22.079 --> 01:20:24.880 adult side, but but just in a lot of the 1462 01:20:24.920 --> 01:20:27.119 movies from their low budgetness. And sometimes you'll get some 1463 01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:29.760 other good regional stuff obviously just from a lot of 1464 01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:33.079 the the trauma titles they acquired, the regional stuff they got. 1465 01:20:33.119 --> 01:20:35.920 But like crack House, that that's a good LA one. 1466 01:20:36.199 --> 01:20:41.039 That's like there's got some real good LA you know, Yeah, 1467 01:20:41.079 --> 01:20:41.520 that's great. 1468 01:20:42.079 --> 01:20:46.680 Yeah, And for locations, I mean crazy segue, but uh, 1469 01:20:48.039 --> 01:20:51.600 I've been a big fan seeing all the Sato where 1470 01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:54.840 he goes back to where he shot Sato films, and 1471 01:20:55.199 --> 01:20:58.479 it is just because of the Sato film you have 1472 01:20:58.560 --> 01:21:01.479 not seen a pink film and it's we'll say it's 1473 01:21:01.880 --> 01:21:04.479 it's an acquire taste. The people who love it though, 1474 01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:05.840 they love them. 1475 01:21:05.920 --> 01:21:08.720 Oh yeah, I'm one of them, and I am late, 1476 01:21:09.079 --> 01:21:10.720 you know, I you know, And. 1477 01:21:10.800 --> 01:21:13.760 This is my first time really discovering them was when 1478 01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:18.439 we did the Sato's and now seeing what's upcoming, not 1479 01:21:18.680 --> 01:21:21.439 just Sato but other ones upcoming are just they get 1480 01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:26.319 more crazier and crazier and just nihilistic but also lynching 1481 01:21:26.399 --> 01:21:28.640 in too in a lot of ways. And it's just 1482 01:21:28.800 --> 01:21:31.800 gets nuts for and it's not what you expect when 1483 01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:35.720 you say, oh yeah Japanese exploitation, Like no, it's they 1484 01:21:35.720 --> 01:21:36.800 are way beyond that. 1485 01:21:38.279 --> 01:21:41.239 Oh yeah, I got a great taste of that with Mondo. Yeah, 1486 01:21:41.279 --> 01:21:43.279 Mona Macabro did a few that really are like, oh, 1487 01:21:43.319 --> 01:21:45.279 these are considered some of these are considered pink films 1488 01:21:45.359 --> 01:21:48.640 technically or like you know, Pinky's in some capacity. And 1489 01:21:48.840 --> 01:21:52.960 I'm really excited for Sato Volume three because of uh 1490 01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:57.600 Turtle Vision I long heard is like a must watch. 1491 01:21:58.239 --> 01:21:59.880 So really really stoked about that one. 1492 01:22:00.199 --> 01:22:01.119 I can't even describe. 1493 01:22:02.439 --> 01:22:06.279 Yeah, I already I figured as much. I actually, you know, 1494 01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:09.119 just a quick tangent. But since we're talking about Sato, 1495 01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:11.199 and and that's obviously one of the releases, this one 1496 01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:14.640 definitely really exciting that that's on there. But like, and 1497 01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:17.279 what's crazy is depending on who you're talking to with SA, 1498 01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:22.359 that could be like what someone's like gnarly is another 1499 01:22:22.439 --> 01:22:24.760 person's treasure, do you know what I mean? Because some 1500 01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:28.920 people will say like, oh right, right, yeah, yeah, and 1501 01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:30.880 some people be like, oh yeah, turtle visions fucked up. 1502 01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:33.560 But wait till you get to like the one with 1503 01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:37.319 the Man, Woman Horse or whatever that title is, you 1504 01:22:37.359 --> 01:22:39.560 know what I mean, Like, it's it's crazy how much 1505 01:22:39.840 --> 01:22:45.000 wilder it can it can get, and so really exciting 1506 01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:47.680 that you guys did another because I think with the 1507 01:22:48.079 --> 01:22:52.119 with the pink films particularly, uh, Like, I know there's 1508 01:22:52.239 --> 01:22:55.359 other non satos to get to, but I do think, 1509 01:22:55.520 --> 01:22:59.760 I do think, and I think it's a great baptism 1510 01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:02.439 by fire though to go through these, because they're all 1511 01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:05.439 very short anyways, So I think you'll know SATO is 1512 01:23:05.439 --> 01:23:07.800 such a great entry point because if you do like these, 1513 01:23:07.880 --> 01:23:09.880 you know you'll be in for other good stuff too, 1514 01:23:10.479 --> 01:23:12.800 And if you don't, I can't see it being an 1515 01:23:12.920 --> 01:23:16.560 upward journey at that point for a person right, So 1516 01:23:16.880 --> 01:23:21.199 like that's before we finish out with the cinematograph and VSL. 1517 01:23:21.319 --> 01:23:23.600 I just really quick would love to just touch on 1518 01:23:23.800 --> 01:23:26.079 the quality X title Maraschino Cherry. 1519 01:23:26.159 --> 01:23:30.560 Absolutely yeah, and also related to I love to talk 1520 01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:35.319 about I think also Resurrection of Eve up there too. 1521 01:23:35.680 --> 01:23:38.960 But yeah, Marischino Cherry is just an amazing you know. 1522 01:23:39.560 --> 01:23:42.960 Radley Metzkert is just one of those who the best. Yeah, 1523 01:23:43.199 --> 01:23:47.399 and he you know, he did try to make more 1524 01:23:47.439 --> 01:23:53.960 mainstream films too, and with unfortunately limited success. But he's 1525 01:23:54.039 --> 01:23:56.760 just one of those who was considered like and everyone 1526 01:23:56.800 --> 01:23:58.840 who worked with him was like, he's just one of 1527 01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:01.640 the greatest directors, not just for adult but just a 1528 01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:02.439 film in general. 1529 01:24:02.600 --> 01:24:07.800 And he's a great like distributor, you know. That's how 1530 01:24:07.840 --> 01:24:10.479 he kind of cut his teeth and so he had 1531 01:24:10.520 --> 01:24:12.520 this like overlap. There's this great book that you guys 1532 01:24:12.560 --> 01:24:14.399 actually sell on the mel you Scene site called Man 1533 01:24:14.479 --> 01:24:17.279 of Taste about Radley metzker It's an essential read, I 1534 01:24:17.279 --> 01:24:20.399 think for anybody who's dug his films. I have to say, 1535 01:24:20.439 --> 01:24:23.640 like when I played a lot of his films played 1536 01:24:23.680 --> 01:24:27.560 in when I did Pussycat Theater Night and this this 1537 01:24:27.760 --> 01:24:29.039 wasn't one of them, but I did, I did you 1538 01:24:29.079 --> 01:24:29.960 know Barbara broadcast? 1539 01:24:30.039 --> 01:24:30.239 We did. 1540 01:24:30.319 --> 01:24:32.640 But even Tale of Tiffany Lust, which I would argue 1541 01:24:32.680 --> 01:24:37.600 is probably like more mid tier Metskir ye And I 1542 01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:39.760 don't say that in a bad way. It's still fucking killed. 1543 01:24:39.880 --> 01:24:41.319 Like the audience loved. 1544 01:24:41.079 --> 01:24:42.560 It, amazing film. 1545 01:24:42.680 --> 01:24:44.720 It's still a great film, right exactly, And so like 1546 01:24:45.159 --> 01:24:46.880 it's interesting, I think this is the first one in 1547 01:24:46.960 --> 01:24:48.720 a while where it's just been a Blue release. It 1548 01:24:48.760 --> 01:24:50.279 hasn't been one of the one of the male you 1549 01:24:50.399 --> 01:24:54.840 scene four K titles. Is it is that just an 1550 01:24:54.880 --> 01:24:57.159 elements thing or it just wasn't there, Like how is 1551 01:24:57.199 --> 01:25:00.279 that decided for? Because I would say I think out 1552 01:25:00.279 --> 01:25:03.279 of all the male you seine titles aside from Blonde Ambition, 1553 01:25:03.399 --> 01:25:08.119 I think thus far they've all been Radley Metzker yeap. 1554 01:25:08.199 --> 01:25:10.439 I just do want to correct it. It is also 1555 01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:14.079 I believe Blue Ray just okay, so is Blu Ray 1556 01:25:14.199 --> 01:25:17.079 only again too? And unfortunately this is another one where 1557 01:25:17.199 --> 01:25:20.680 again we did the you know, thirty five milimeter negative, 1558 01:25:20.720 --> 01:25:24.920 but it was one where the you know, it's never 1559 01:25:24.960 --> 01:25:28.239 gonna be perfect either, and yeah, they just wanted to 1560 01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:30.920 do the best possible. 1561 01:25:30.479 --> 01:25:33.319 Blu Ray they can, you know, and yeah, totally. 1562 01:25:33.159 --> 01:25:36.079 If it you know, maybe one day a four kick 1563 01:25:36.079 --> 01:25:39.880 can happen too. But yeah, the Blu Ray for this 1564 01:25:40.199 --> 01:25:42.239 is I think the best it's ever gonna look, and 1565 01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:44.680 just the best it is. 1566 01:25:45.239 --> 01:25:47.520 H that's good enough. I think that's good enough. It's 1567 01:25:47.600 --> 01:25:49.720 really easy to take for granted that even to get 1568 01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:52.760 it on a Blu Ray, and I was wrong. The 1569 01:25:52.840 --> 01:25:54.680 other one I just remembered was Through the Looking Glass, 1570 01:25:54.680 --> 01:25:59.520 which is a masterpiece. But yeah, that's that's great. I'm 1571 01:25:59.560 --> 01:26:02.680 just glad to see more Metsker. I honestly, I'm really 1572 01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:05.840 excited for the uh, for all the other you know, 1573 01:26:06.399 --> 01:26:08.560 Metsker ones that are getting the upgrades. I know they've 1574 01:26:08.640 --> 01:26:11.840 been talked about, and so really exciting that that this one, 1575 01:26:12.119 --> 01:26:15.520 this one's there. And also obviously now that you've done 1576 01:26:15.560 --> 01:26:18.159 Behind the Green Door, you got the other Mitchell, you know, 1577 01:26:18.239 --> 01:26:20.119 Resurrection of Eve. Now you're going to like, I think 1578 01:26:20.159 --> 01:26:23.800 what people would consider more because Behind the Green Door, 1579 01:26:23.840 --> 01:26:28.359 I think it's reputation. It's as much of a what's 1580 01:26:28.399 --> 01:26:30.039 the word I'm looking for, like it's it's obviously a 1581 01:26:30.159 --> 01:26:33.399 landmark film. Oh so it carries a lot of baggage 1582 01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:35.119 to the actual film, and that's why I think the 1583 01:26:35.119 --> 01:26:37.279 features are important. But I love that, Like I know, 1584 01:26:37.399 --> 01:26:39.760 for the Mitchell Brothers group, a lot of their follow 1585 01:26:39.840 --> 01:26:42.960 ups are actually considered like the even better films. 1586 01:26:43.399 --> 01:26:45.920 Yeah, that's correct, and yeah there's so there's a lot 1587 01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:48.680 of great stuff coming out for that too. And yeah, 1588 01:26:49.039 --> 01:26:51.720 with Behind the Green Door, it was such a cultural mainstam. 1589 01:26:51.720 --> 01:26:54.520 I mean you have like just those funny clips on 1590 01:26:54.640 --> 01:26:57.359 like YouTube, and I mean most recently, I think it 1591 01:26:57.560 --> 01:27:02.760 was for promotion for John Cena for Freaking Peacemaker or 1592 01:27:02.800 --> 01:27:05.720 something or one of his films where they were like, oh, 1593 01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:08.399 what's your favorite film or something, and he brought up 1594 01:27:08.399 --> 01:27:10.800 Behind the Green Door and his co actors did not 1595 01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:11.800 know what that was. 1596 01:27:12.079 --> 01:27:15.239 Oh yeah, yeah yeah. And if you at the top 1597 01:27:15.279 --> 01:27:18.079 review on letterbox is like I'm only here because John 1598 01:27:18.119 --> 01:27:19.239 Cena sent me here or something. 1599 01:27:19.359 --> 01:27:23.680 Yeah like that, and then another but even better recommendation. 1600 01:27:23.840 --> 01:27:28.039 I still think it's indriselda because his production company is 1601 01:27:28.079 --> 01:27:31.720 Green Door Productions, and he came apparently he came up 1602 01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:34.479 with that like nothing to do with it at all, 1603 01:27:34.640 --> 01:27:39.079 and then you know it's production people should watch look 1604 01:27:39.159 --> 01:27:42.039 up the clip on YouTube because it's it's hilarious and 1605 01:27:42.279 --> 01:27:44.319 he explains it better. But it's one of those things 1606 01:27:44.359 --> 01:27:46.960 where he's like, oh yeah, Green Door Production, man, Yeah, 1607 01:27:46.960 --> 01:27:50.159 I'll do that, and you know, my producers are like, uh, 1608 01:27:50.760 --> 01:27:52.239 you know what this has to do with porn? Right, 1609 01:27:52.399 --> 01:27:54.960 He's like, what are you talking about? And like, well, 1610 01:27:55.079 --> 01:27:56.680 what it's about and he's like, well, it's the first 1611 01:27:56.880 --> 01:27:59.239 one of the first pornos with an interracial scene. And 1612 01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:02.279 he's like, oh wow, Like tell me more about this 1613 01:28:02.439 --> 01:28:06.079 and he's like, well, there's a climax shot that lasts 1614 01:28:06.079 --> 01:28:09.199 for about seven minutes and he's like, yeah, we gotta 1615 01:28:09.640 --> 01:28:11.720 use it based on this. Are you kidding me? Like, 1616 01:28:11.880 --> 01:28:12.720 what are you talking about? 1617 01:28:12.840 --> 01:28:15.680 Is so yeah, it's he's still the coolest guy I am. Yeah. 1618 01:28:15.920 --> 01:28:18.720 So I'm like, that's that's the no one could do 1619 01:28:18.760 --> 01:28:21.479 a better recommendation for Behind the Green Door of. 1620 01:28:22.600 --> 01:28:25.199 The hottest the hottest man in history pretty much. 1621 01:28:25.319 --> 01:28:29.159 Yeah. But yeah, so hopefully people also rediscover you know, 1622 01:28:29.560 --> 01:28:33.000 Resurrection of Eve too, and like you said, the other 1623 01:28:33.119 --> 01:28:36.479 Mitchell Brothers films, because arguably those are the even better 1624 01:28:36.760 --> 01:28:39.840 you know films coming out too. So uh so, yeah, 1625 01:28:39.960 --> 01:28:43.520 lots of good things with that and uh uh yeah, 1626 01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:45.840 a lot of great adult stuff coming out, so for 1627 01:28:46.039 --> 01:28:50.520 VSL by the time this airs, the other one people 1628 01:28:50.560 --> 01:28:55.279 will see is another fun fifties monster movie called The 1629 01:28:55.359 --> 01:28:59.920 snow Creature. And yeah this I think it's always a 1630 01:29:00.079 --> 01:29:02.960 great day when a Bigfoot movie or a Yeti movie 1631 01:29:03.199 --> 01:29:05.960 can be shown to the public and back out in 1632 01:29:06.039 --> 01:29:13.039 the world. This one had again a crazy like you know, 1633 01:29:13.319 --> 01:29:16.159 you couldn't see it the best way possible for the 1634 01:29:16.279 --> 01:29:20.760 longest time. But yeah, but it came out and it 1635 01:29:20.840 --> 01:29:24.039 looks as beautiful as it can be. But man, in 1636 01:29:24.159 --> 01:29:28.039 the fifties it was. It was made in a weird time. 1637 01:29:28.960 --> 01:29:31.479 Fair warning. It's you know, it takes place in a pall. 1638 01:29:31.600 --> 01:29:36.000 They're searching for the Yeti actually comes to La and 1639 01:29:36.119 --> 01:29:39.960 causes mayhem and havoc and everything ensues. It's great if 1640 01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:42.960 you love the just the great B fifteen fifties B 1641 01:29:43.119 --> 01:29:47.319 movies too. Another great person like working with I love 1642 01:29:47.399 --> 01:29:50.680 Kim Newman. He does a great kind of video interview 1643 01:29:51.039 --> 01:29:53.840 and talks about the different YETI movies and the start 1644 01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:57.239 of that because it came out really around, actually came 1645 01:29:57.279 --> 01:30:01.720 out I think earlier than Hammers. The Hominable Snowman two 1646 01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:04.760 and it was just crazy to see, you know, these 1647 01:30:05.560 --> 01:30:09.560 black and white things and people taking on these you know, 1648 01:30:09.720 --> 01:30:15.960 the weird cryptozoological things very early and uh but fair warning, 1649 01:30:16.039 --> 01:30:19.880 this is a film where it takes place in Nepal. 1650 01:30:21.199 --> 01:30:26.079 Apparently they did try to find Nepali's actors time and 1651 01:30:26.119 --> 01:30:29.439 they couldn't find them, so they literally hired Japanese actors 1652 01:30:29.479 --> 01:30:34.359 who just speak Japanese, so people should be aware of that. 1653 01:30:34.600 --> 01:30:37.640 And it's is, it is what it is. I don't 1654 01:30:37.680 --> 01:30:38.079 know what else. 1655 01:30:40.279 --> 01:30:43.199 Nothing beats white cannibal queen though just like Italian. 1656 01:30:47.840 --> 01:30:50.760 Some of that, I mean, fair war even fair warning too. 1657 01:30:51.079 --> 01:30:56.680 There is a Veil episode called the Return of Madam 1658 01:30:56.760 --> 01:31:01.159 Vernoy I believe it's called, and it is definitely unfortunately 1659 01:31:01.479 --> 01:31:04.760 uh or lack of a better term, where they definitely 1660 01:31:04.840 --> 01:31:09.239 had European actors playing people from India and it takes 1661 01:31:09.279 --> 01:31:15.159 place in India and it's just not the weirdest, but 1662 01:31:15.479 --> 01:31:18.640 especially when they're go all out, Oh you know why, 1663 01:31:18.640 --> 01:31:22.000 I think should be the perfect you know, half Hindu, 1664 01:31:22.159 --> 01:31:25.800 half French person that I could think of. Well, apparently 1665 01:31:25.960 --> 01:31:29.079 when they made it, they thought, uh, no, one like 1666 01:31:29.159 --> 01:31:32.399 George Hamilton as his first role should be that person 1667 01:31:32.640 --> 01:31:37.760 and you're like, what the hell. It's not the worst 1668 01:31:37.840 --> 01:31:41.800 of the worst, but yeah, it's one. It's it's the 1669 01:31:41.880 --> 01:31:46.840 only episode like that, but good episode. Otherwise, just weird, 1670 01:31:47.439 --> 01:31:49.960 you know, and people should be aware of that stuff. 1671 01:31:50.039 --> 01:31:53.000 But uh but yeah, otherwise, the snow Creature is just 1672 01:31:53.119 --> 01:31:57.960 this great classic B movie, just weird the The Abominable 1673 01:31:58.079 --> 01:32:03.079 Snowman comes to La and Savoc. So speaking of locations, yeah, 1674 01:32:03.199 --> 01:32:06.520 it'll be interesting to see if people check out, you know, 1675 01:32:06.640 --> 01:32:09.399 the they're like, oh, okay, I know that place too, 1676 01:32:10.680 --> 01:32:14.840 and uh yeah, it's just another weird, weirdo B movie 1677 01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:18.399 one that we get to put out. So yeah, that's 1678 01:32:18.439 --> 01:32:20.039 the VSL. That's awesome. 1679 01:32:21.159 --> 01:32:23.560 Well you'd said that tank Girl was the one you 1680 01:32:23.600 --> 01:32:25.800 wanted to save to a last but I mean there's 1681 01:32:26.520 --> 01:32:29.039 there's nothing small about being able to put out The Gambler. 1682 01:32:29.279 --> 01:32:32.920 Oh my god. Yeah. The two cinematographs, both of them 1683 01:32:32.960 --> 01:32:37.640 are fantastic. I mean the Gambler seeing that we I 1684 01:32:37.720 --> 01:32:41.159 don't think. I've definitely seen bits and pieces on television, 1685 01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:45.520 but I never saw the whole thing. And it's an amazing, 1686 01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:48.960 amazing film. Justin really went all out on it, and 1687 01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:53.600 it's just such amazing character piece because I think people 1688 01:32:53.640 --> 01:32:57.000 are used to James Kahn playing like even in Elf, 1689 01:32:57.199 --> 01:33:00.479 he's essentially a tough guy, you know, like in a 1690 01:33:00.520 --> 01:33:02.079 lot of the films he's a tough guy. In this 1691 01:33:02.439 --> 01:33:05.119 he is not a tough guy at all. He is 1692 01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:10.840 against his type and is you know, very like it's 1693 01:33:10.880 --> 01:33:12.000 not just vulnerability. 1694 01:33:12.119 --> 01:33:14.920 It's like, I mean, he plays a loser, right, he 1695 01:33:14.960 --> 01:33:16.079 plays him. 1696 01:33:16.159 --> 01:33:18.840 Yeah, you're hitting him because he and he's an addict. 1697 01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:22.159 He's literally a gamling addict. He he cannot stop, he 1698 01:33:22.239 --> 01:33:25.119 cannot stop when and he it's like he has a 1699 01:33:25.319 --> 01:33:29.039 rich he comes from a rich family. They said they'll help, 1700 01:33:29.199 --> 01:33:32.439 they hand it to him, and he just he can't 1701 01:33:32.479 --> 01:33:35.520 help himself, and he gets worse and worse. But the 1702 01:33:35.600 --> 01:33:41.000 film is incredible. A lot of really early performances Paul 1703 01:33:41.079 --> 01:33:43.960 Sorvino very young in it is great too. 1704 01:33:44.319 --> 01:33:46.840 Uh, just the just everyone. 1705 01:33:46.640 --> 01:33:49.840 Involved behind the scenes and the making of and there's 1706 01:33:49.920 --> 01:33:52.680 new I guess great you know, interviews with the director 1707 01:33:52.720 --> 01:33:55.800 as well and behind the scenes on it, and it's 1708 01:33:55.880 --> 01:33:59.119 just it's just an amazing one that people can rediscover 1709 01:33:59.239 --> 01:34:02.680 for themselves to I think, Oh. 1710 01:34:02.640 --> 01:34:03.880 No, I was just gonna say the only thing I 1711 01:34:03.920 --> 01:34:06.520 wanted to say was what what's great when I think 1712 01:34:06.640 --> 01:34:08.840 Justin does a really good job of with Cinematograph is 1713 01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:12.920 a combination of like things that need to be like 1714 01:34:13.319 --> 01:34:16.880 rediscovered or discovered. But like The gam The Gambler is 1715 01:34:16.920 --> 01:34:18.640 one of those movies I've been wanting to see for 1716 01:34:18.720 --> 01:34:23.600 a long time and I just haven't gotten around to. Yeah, totally, 1717 01:34:23.680 --> 01:34:25.159 but but it's one of those things where I'm like, yeah, 1718 01:34:25.159 --> 01:34:28.119 if it's there, cool, But you know, as someone who subscribes, 1719 01:34:28.119 --> 01:34:30.479 I'm like, oh, great, I could throw this in watch it, 1720 01:34:30.680 --> 01:34:32.159 you know. And obviously because we're doing the pod, we 1721 01:34:32.479 --> 01:34:35.359 watch everything from from mainline and sub labels that we 1722 01:34:35.399 --> 01:34:38.039 can get to, and yeh, it's like a pleasure to 1723 01:34:38.079 --> 01:34:41.439 be able to watch this and and then also like 1724 01:34:41.600 --> 01:34:44.520 you know, there's also the discovery aspect of it. I 1725 01:34:44.560 --> 01:34:46.439 don't think I would have ever sat down and watched 1726 01:34:46.840 --> 01:34:50.039 joy Ride, King of the Gypsies, you know, I could 1727 01:34:50.119 --> 01:34:52.439 I get bang the drum slowly, even the you know, 1728 01:34:53.359 --> 01:34:56.199 you know Shanks, and like these movies that again, like 1729 01:34:56.279 --> 01:34:58.199 you say, a lot of them have blu rays in 1730 01:34:58.279 --> 01:35:01.199 some capacities almost free, but there's nothing that's going to 1731 01:35:01.239 --> 01:35:03.720 bring my attention to them, because there isn't like a 1732 01:35:03.840 --> 01:35:06.560 curatorial aspect to it most of the time. So it's 1733 01:35:06.640 --> 01:35:08.840 just being put out because the studio has it and 1734 01:35:08.960 --> 01:35:11.000 they know it'll it'll move a little, you know, and 1735 01:35:11.159 --> 01:35:14.359 so so they'll put it on like a you know, 1736 01:35:14.439 --> 01:35:16.800 it's like a bare bones release, whereas here it gets 1737 01:35:16.920 --> 01:35:19.840 like real. And I've said it before, like when I 1738 01:35:19.920 --> 01:35:22.520 make like my year end, like my physical media, like 1739 01:35:22.640 --> 01:35:24.840 kind of stacks of what I love the most of 1740 01:35:24.960 --> 01:35:27.800 each year. Since twenty twenty four, cinematographs had one in there. 1741 01:35:27.840 --> 01:35:30.239 Twenty twenty four was Who Killed Teddy Bear was like, 1742 01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:33.680 just oh my god, that that movie, Like I just 1743 01:35:33.760 --> 01:35:36.319 had been dying to see it for years and it 1744 01:35:36.399 --> 01:35:38.199 was incredible. And like I said, Joyride was like the 1745 01:35:38.239 --> 01:35:41.319 big surprise, and then this past year it was bang 1746 01:35:41.399 --> 01:35:44.039 the well a New Leaf was like the release. Oh, 1747 01:35:44.680 --> 01:35:47.079 you know, like that's a no brainer. Yeah, but then 1748 01:35:47.239 --> 01:35:49.439 like you know, bang the drum slowly. I otherwise wouldn't 1749 01:35:49.479 --> 01:35:52.520 have watched, and I watched it and I was like, fuck, 1750 01:35:52.560 --> 01:35:54.840 this movie rocks. I'm like glad I saw this. 1751 01:35:55.439 --> 01:35:58.920 Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. I mean what Justin does and curates, 1752 01:35:59.279 --> 01:36:02.840 it's incredible and again the next year coming up is amazing. 1753 01:36:02.920 --> 01:36:06.000 But man, what he did for also real quick at 1754 01:36:06.079 --> 01:36:07.000 close range. 1755 01:36:07.239 --> 01:36:09.960 Was oh god, yeah, I'm so stoked to revisit that. 1756 01:36:11.319 --> 01:36:14.600 Like I couldn't believe. We got both Christopher Walking and 1757 01:36:14.840 --> 01:36:18.560 Sean penn for interviews about it. They're amazing interviews and 1758 01:36:19.199 --> 01:36:21.840 it was so great. I guess apparently like one wouldn't 1759 01:36:21.880 --> 01:36:24.479 do it unless the other did, and then one yes, 1760 01:36:24.640 --> 01:36:29.640 and then okay, well we're both doing it because I know, 1761 01:36:30.600 --> 01:36:32.640 I know pennanties he doesn't do that many of these, 1762 01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:36.720 like the interviews for the past, you know, for his 1763 01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:40.119 past work, So it was great to hear him talk 1764 01:36:40.159 --> 01:36:44.840 about all of this stuff too. And Christopher Walking, he 1765 01:36:45.119 --> 01:36:47.560 loves the film. He was one of his favorites. So 1766 01:36:47.840 --> 01:36:52.239 seeing that and then again get those great video essays 1767 01:36:53.119 --> 01:36:57.279 about the real Johnson family. I think it was in Pennsylvania, 1768 01:36:57.399 --> 01:37:01.239 the crime family, and it's just man, even that film 1769 01:37:01.399 --> 01:37:04.920 left out some of the heinous ship that they that 1770 01:37:05.039 --> 01:37:09.279 happened in real life too. So but yeah, going back 1771 01:37:09.319 --> 01:37:12.960 to it, the Gambler is just another great cinematograph one. 1772 01:37:13.399 --> 01:37:15.359 And what about the second title for the month, the 1773 01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:16.399 second one? 1774 01:37:16.640 --> 01:37:19.239 Uh and by the time this hears will be up. 1775 01:37:19.359 --> 01:37:20.880 But uh married to the Mob? 1776 01:37:21.359 --> 01:37:21.479 Uh? 1777 01:37:22.920 --> 01:37:27.840 Yeah, so again fund Stay did a great blu Ray two. 1778 01:37:28.079 --> 01:37:31.720 We just did another expansion of it and all new 1779 01:37:31.840 --> 01:37:35.359 for four K on that four K transfer, it's beautiful, 1780 01:37:35.520 --> 01:37:36.079 it's correct. 1781 01:37:36.159 --> 01:37:37.880 Sorry, it just cut out for me. But do you 1782 01:37:37.920 --> 01:37:39.600 say I'm married to the Mob? It was that's a 1783 01:37:39.680 --> 01:37:41.359 four K No, no, no, that's not on you. That 1784 01:37:41.479 --> 01:37:43.640 was on me, but not sorry. The title I got 1785 01:37:43.680 --> 01:37:45.720 it was that you guys transferred it from the original negative. 1786 01:37:45.880 --> 01:37:47.199 Is that what the right? 1787 01:37:47.399 --> 01:37:47.760 Right? Yeah? 1788 01:37:48.319 --> 01:37:50.680 I know what the FC ones that were like released 1789 01:37:50.680 --> 01:37:52.760 a few years ago between that and Breathless, they were 1790 01:37:52.880 --> 01:37:57.560 like for those were like interpositives or like less than 1791 01:37:57.600 --> 01:37:59.199 desirable elements compared. 1792 01:37:58.920 --> 01:38:01.720 To it and OC times that's all you got in general. Yeah, 1793 01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:05.840 sure they could do. But uh no, it's beautiful, it 1794 01:38:06.439 --> 01:38:09.560 sounds great, looks great. Uh and it's just one of 1795 01:38:09.640 --> 01:38:15.039 those amazing films that again, it's just so fun. It's 1796 01:38:15.079 --> 01:38:17.119 just so fun. You don't expect it to be because 1797 01:38:17.239 --> 01:38:19.039 there are some dark moments in the film, but it's 1798 01:38:19.119 --> 01:38:22.840 it's just so fun with it. And again brand new 1799 01:38:23.439 --> 01:38:27.760 commentary and interview with Matthew Modine as well all about 1800 01:38:27.800 --> 01:38:31.000 it and so yeah, there's an I can't remember all 1801 01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:32.319 the time I had, but there's a ton of great 1802 01:38:32.359 --> 01:38:36.439 extras on it as well. So uh yeah, it's a 1803 01:38:36.560 --> 01:38:42.560 pretty excellent lineup overall. For for January, I think, real 1804 01:38:42.680 --> 01:38:46.239 quick shout out. It's already sold out, but I guess 1805 01:38:46.359 --> 01:38:50.760 they're getting the standards in soon too. Uh but so 1806 01:38:50.960 --> 01:38:56.000 happy uh film movement, Oh man. 1807 01:38:55.960 --> 01:38:57.840 Yeah, we didn't even get to the partners. What a 1808 01:38:57.960 --> 01:39:02.800 fucking months, man, I know, I am flat fucking broke 1809 01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:05.760 because of Partner's Month, Like that's what Partner's mon, excuse me, 1810 01:39:05.840 --> 01:39:08.720 partner releases. But yeah, I mean I can't believe. I'm 1811 01:39:08.760 --> 01:39:11.159 so glad you brought that up, because like, yeah, I 1812 01:39:11.239 --> 01:39:13.479 mean as soon as I saw The Great Silence before 1813 01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:16.119 I even finished, as soon as my subscription went through, 1814 01:39:16.159 --> 01:39:18.239 that's the first thing I picked up. I didn't hesitate. 1815 01:39:19.159 --> 01:39:23.520 Yeah, and the same way I bought that, and then 1816 01:39:23.680 --> 01:39:26.479 I also bought uh, I had to buy I've heard 1817 01:39:26.560 --> 01:39:29.439 of it. I never saw it. But when they said 1818 01:39:29.520 --> 01:39:35.239 for Canadian International Pictures, a Ghostkeeper, yeah, yeah, another crazy 1819 01:39:35.319 --> 01:39:38.800 one too, and it's just summary looking at it too, 1820 01:39:38.880 --> 01:39:41.720 trigger man, Like I never saw that I've heard of it, 1821 01:39:41.960 --> 01:39:42.479 never saw it. 1822 01:39:42.560 --> 01:39:46.359 But like, yeah, all these I mean even the Kannie 1823 01:39:46.399 --> 01:39:48.199 one by by Love has been a long time people 1824 01:39:48.279 --> 01:39:50.720 have been waiting for that. I'm shocked that's the slips 1825 01:39:50.760 --> 01:39:52.640 aren't gone yet. They're down to like two hundred and 1826 01:39:52.720 --> 01:39:55.680 eighty something. But like, yeah, still like the fact that 1827 01:39:55.960 --> 01:39:58.399 that's like incredible. Yeah, like Chris just said the the 1828 01:39:58.920 --> 01:40:01.159 you know, I know AGFA has all the HG. Lewis films, 1829 01:40:01.199 --> 01:40:03.840 but they got you know, blast Off Girls, and yeah, 1830 01:40:04.119 --> 01:40:06.119 like I grilled the body of the film, I know 1831 01:40:06.359 --> 01:40:09.279 more than I No, I don't, I actually don't. Yeah, 1832 01:40:09.359 --> 01:40:11.479 but you know, like and the Club Super eight one 1833 01:40:11.600 --> 01:40:15.159 with the Christina Lindberg documentary was a hot seller. It's 1834 01:40:15.199 --> 01:40:18.640 it's funny because I don't think there's any other distribution 1835 01:40:18.800 --> 01:40:23.479 company that can like get these docs out because and 1836 01:40:23.560 --> 01:40:25.840 this guy's come up in the discord. Documentaries are are 1837 01:40:25.920 --> 01:40:30.960 a tricky thing in in terms of selling it because 1838 01:40:31.600 --> 01:40:35.199 the rewatchability isn't there necessarily, right, It's more of like 1839 01:40:35.760 --> 01:40:39.199 a it's it's a one time thing, so like most people, 1840 01:40:39.399 --> 01:40:42.439 they'll relegate that to a rental or something else. Like 1841 01:40:42.520 --> 01:40:46.520 in terms of seeing it, theatrically a repertory. So it's 1842 01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:51.399 really cool that I think these like genre documentaries get 1843 01:40:51.520 --> 01:40:53.279 get a chance because the problem is a lot of 1844 01:40:53.920 --> 01:40:57.199 document modern documentaries are made for streaming, so they're there 1845 01:40:57.239 --> 01:41:00.520 are these like they're they're like kind of digest versions 1846 01:41:00.600 --> 01:41:03.439 that I don't know, It's not anything a Wikipedia search 1847 01:41:03.479 --> 01:41:05.760 couldn't do. So it's cool that like something like the 1848 01:41:05.880 --> 01:41:08.600 Christina Lindberg documentary or the ones that CIP puts out. 1849 01:41:09.199 --> 01:41:10.439 Yeah, they do it. 1850 01:41:10.479 --> 01:41:13.119 They do it in incredible work with like a lot 1851 01:41:13.159 --> 01:41:15.520 of political stuff that happened in the seventies, or's like 1852 01:41:15.600 --> 01:41:16.720 a series they put out. 1853 01:41:17.039 --> 01:41:20.920 Those, and also a company partnerly we'll called Film Desk too, 1854 01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:25.159 I believe that's right. Yeah, the Chili in the nineteen seventies, dock, 1855 01:41:25.520 --> 01:41:28.199 I forget the title of Oh what bell for Chili? 1856 01:41:28.359 --> 01:41:31.079 Battle for Yeah, the Battle Battle for Chile. Yep, they 1857 01:41:31.159 --> 01:41:34.199 did that. And then Film Desk also, did I believe 1858 01:41:34.239 --> 01:41:36.239 they did Gods of Times Square. Yeah. 1859 01:41:36.720 --> 01:41:38.600 I haven't seen it yet, but yeah, I do want 1860 01:41:38.600 --> 01:41:41.199 to check that one out too. So there's so many. 1861 01:41:41.279 --> 01:41:43.760 I'm as busy as I am, I have so little 1862 01:41:43.800 --> 01:41:44.319 time to watch. 1863 01:41:44.800 --> 01:41:51.039 Yeah. Yeah, one last question in regards to that, when 1864 01:41:51.079 --> 01:41:53.880 you restore a film, how often do you watch a 1865 01:41:53.960 --> 01:41:56.359 film before you restore it? Like, I don't think this 1866 01:41:56.520 --> 01:41:58.359 was touched upon when you on the first episode that 1867 01:41:58.399 --> 01:42:00.560 you appeared on, but like, yeah, when you watch a 1868 01:42:00.640 --> 01:42:03.119 film or when you have to restore something, how often 1869 01:42:03.159 --> 01:42:06.359 are you watching something like for reference or knowing, like 1870 01:42:06.439 --> 01:42:07.960 you have to watch the film that it's entirety to 1871 01:42:08.039 --> 01:42:10.239 know what you're in for in terms of restoration or 1872 01:42:10.359 --> 01:42:11.119 how does that work for you? 1873 01:42:11.560 --> 01:42:15.960 No, I usually if it's something in house, or whether 1874 01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:18.640 it's in house or scan in La or Hong Kong 1875 01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:22.840 or Italy doesn't matter. We you know, I gathered everything 1876 01:42:22.920 --> 01:42:26.800 up too. But if it's something I'm scanning in house too, uh, 1877 01:42:27.680 --> 01:42:29.920 I get it all together. And it's a film I've 1878 01:42:29.960 --> 01:42:33.920 seen before, obviously I could go through and know okay, huh, 1879 01:42:34.479 --> 01:42:37.359 we might need other footage from like the IP or 1880 01:42:37.439 --> 01:42:39.560 something like that as well. It's a fill in or 1881 01:42:40.079 --> 01:42:44.079 I'll know, okay, this seems complete, you know. But a 1882 01:42:44.239 --> 01:42:48.560 lot of that type of thing that's for Curtis specifically too. 1883 01:42:49.039 --> 01:42:53.319 He handles the you know, going through the references. Also 1884 01:42:53.680 --> 01:42:57.359 Joe Rubin does too, but it's to go through every 1885 01:42:57.439 --> 01:43:01.640 single reference to make sure we have the most complete version. 1886 01:43:01.880 --> 01:43:05.439 When we get to something like the Upcoming Lady in White, 1887 01:43:05.520 --> 01:43:09.920 which everyone knows has had three different versions, or especially 1888 01:43:10.119 --> 01:43:13.800 with these Hong Kong and Italian film Giallo films too, 1889 01:43:13.920 --> 01:43:18.920 because they they've also had multiple versions or cut versus uncut, 1890 01:43:19.159 --> 01:43:21.800 and how do you know what you have? You know? 1891 01:43:22.079 --> 01:43:30.119 And so there's that's Curtis like excels that with figuring 1892 01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:34.359 out what version we have, what footage we need to source. 1893 01:43:34.800 --> 01:43:39.920 In addition to so, I mean still to this day, 1894 01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:43.960 what they with him would Oscar MGM to huge help 1895 01:43:44.520 --> 01:43:48.960 get to me getting dirty work? The unrated or are 1896 01:43:49.039 --> 01:43:53.359 rated cut? Yeah, all together was incredible to I. 1897 01:43:53.319 --> 01:43:54.920 Don't think you're allowed to call it the r raty cut. 1898 01:43:55.000 --> 01:43:56.119 Wasn't there something funny about that? 1899 01:43:56.359 --> 01:43:59.520 Yeah? It was called the dirty cut, dirty or cut? 1900 01:43:59.600 --> 01:44:03.680 Thank you? Sorry? Yeah, no my own rules here, yes, 1901 01:44:03.960 --> 01:44:09.760 uh so because it wasn't rated. So but yeah, the 1902 01:44:09.760 --> 01:44:12.239 dirty or cut. Just what they had to do to 1903 01:44:12.720 --> 01:44:16.479 make that happen was just insane. It wasn't. It wasn't 1904 01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:18.640 quite like New York Ninja, but it was almost like 1905 01:44:18.840 --> 01:44:19.800 that level. 1906 01:44:20.640 --> 01:44:23.279 Yeah, I remember, I remember when Oscar did the winding 1907 01:44:23.359 --> 01:44:25.640 through for that. Yeah, seeing that, I was like, man, 1908 01:44:25.680 --> 01:44:29.760 that's like heroic work. Man, that's like truly incredible, incredible, 1909 01:44:30.119 --> 01:44:30.800 like the Valor. 1910 01:44:31.560 --> 01:44:35.359 Yeah, because I mean again and going with that, going 1911 01:44:35.479 --> 01:44:39.119 with going back to television stuff too. You know, I 1912 01:44:39.319 --> 01:44:42.960 know there's gonna be some crazy nineties stuff I'll want 1913 01:44:43.039 --> 01:44:46.439 to do and to do it right, it's it'll probably 1914 01:44:46.479 --> 01:44:48.720 be shot on film but edited on tape, which means 1915 01:44:48.760 --> 01:44:51.760 like you have to just you scan everything. You scan 1916 01:44:51.880 --> 01:44:56.720 it the dailies, you scan the original takes. We've done 1917 01:44:56.760 --> 01:45:01.520 that before for feature films, like, uh, A great example 1918 01:45:01.600 --> 01:45:07.880 I use is Haunted Ween from the Got Homegrown Horror. Yeah, 1919 01:45:07.880 --> 01:45:10.279 it's a volume three, Yeah, volume three, thank you, And 1920 01:45:11.079 --> 01:45:14.520 that was one where it was edited on tape, but 1921 01:45:15.199 --> 01:45:19.039 we found the original camera negatives, but they were when 1922 01:45:19.079 --> 01:45:23.399 I say uncut, it's literally like oh yeah, slate take one, wow, 1923 01:45:23.800 --> 01:45:29.840 take two, like and getting that together. It's been crazy 1924 01:45:30.079 --> 01:45:32.800 and it can be done. It can be scanned, It 1925 01:45:33.119 --> 01:45:33.640 all be done. 1926 01:45:33.720 --> 01:45:35.159 It just takes time. 1927 01:45:35.359 --> 01:45:36.159 It takes time. 1928 01:45:37.680 --> 01:45:39.680 For studio work. Is that is that much more of 1929 01:45:39.720 --> 01:45:42.119 a cakewalk then? Like like in terms of like something 1930 01:45:42.199 --> 01:45:45.760 like Tink Girl or Virtuosity where you know, there isn't 1931 01:45:45.800 --> 01:45:49.239 like it's not a compromised thing. It's just uh, you know, 1932 01:45:49.800 --> 01:45:50.680 that's a lot of your work. 1933 01:45:50.880 --> 01:45:55.720 Never a cake walk for anure. It can be easier 1934 01:45:55.760 --> 01:45:59.279 in terms of okay, there's one version. There's one version 1935 01:45:59.359 --> 01:46:03.880 that was all always ever made, you know, with thirty work, 1936 01:46:04.760 --> 01:46:10.800 obviously there there was two versions made, but obviously they 1937 01:46:10.920 --> 01:46:14.560 changed it in previews for like the focus group and 1938 01:46:14.600 --> 01:46:19.760 stuff like that afterwards, and uh, that's so you just 1939 01:46:19.840 --> 01:46:22.359 don't know necessarily, but like with something like tank Girl, 1940 01:46:22.479 --> 01:46:26.680 it has the one cut, as it were, and so 1941 01:46:27.399 --> 01:46:30.159 it is easier. Never a cake walk, but it is 1942 01:46:30.760 --> 01:46:32.319 easier on that sort of. 1943 01:46:32.359 --> 01:46:36.079 That's yeah, yeah, it's yeah, that's funny. The way I 1944 01:46:36.159 --> 01:46:37.479 had asked that, I'm like, oh, yeah, it's just the 1945 01:46:37.520 --> 01:46:39.760 thing where you just scan it and you're like, all right, 1946 01:46:39.800 --> 01:46:41.000 I'm gonna call it is a good time to just 1947 01:46:41.079 --> 01:46:43.359 catch up on uh yeah, yeah, it's just scans in 1948 01:46:43.399 --> 01:46:43.960 the background. 1949 01:46:44.720 --> 01:46:49.520 But yeah, I know I could tell you upcoming vague, 1950 01:46:49.560 --> 01:46:52.479 but people people will surely guess, I'm sure, but there's 1951 01:46:52.520 --> 01:46:55.800 so many of those coming out were more than one 1952 01:46:55.880 --> 01:46:59.239 cut people have not seen before and just figuring it 1953 01:46:59.319 --> 01:47:04.560 all out so uh yeah, it's it's been it's been crazy. Uh, 1954 01:47:04.880 --> 01:47:08.479 Curtis Man, more power to you dealing with all of this. 1955 01:47:08.800 --> 01:47:10.720 I just just have to scan it. 1956 01:47:11.479 --> 01:47:13.279 Yeah yeah, fair enough, fair enough? 1957 01:47:13.399 --> 01:47:16.319 Yeah again, kind of as vague as possible here, Please 1958 01:47:16.399 --> 01:47:17.880 keep it vage because the intent is not to be 1959 01:47:18.079 --> 01:47:20.640 not to picture on the tight spot. Are there any 1960 01:47:20.680 --> 01:47:23.000 first time film directors that you're excited about coming up 1961 01:47:23.039 --> 01:47:24.960 this year, because that's one trend I've noticed the last 1962 01:47:25.000 --> 01:47:28.239 two years. Y'all have just had some incredible film directors 1963 01:47:28.279 --> 01:47:33.239 that you're able to get to their stuff. I don't 1964 01:47:33.279 --> 01:47:41.920 think so okay, maybe maybe not Okay, that could be good. Brandon, 1965 01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:43.680 It's it's always a joy to have you on. We 1966 01:47:43.800 --> 01:47:45.359 we kind of talked about this off air to make 1967 01:47:45.359 --> 01:47:48.000 sure you're okay with it. But anytime there's an iconoscope 1968 01:47:48.039 --> 01:47:49.880 title or anything that you're just pumped about that you 1969 01:47:49.960 --> 01:47:52.800 worked on, please come back and let's let's let's pump 1970 01:47:52.840 --> 01:47:53.079 it up. 1971 01:47:53.239 --> 01:47:56.920 Absolutely no, thank you guys again for doing this. Uh, 1972 01:47:57.199 --> 01:48:01.560 thank you guys for getting the word out and having 1973 01:48:01.600 --> 01:48:04.840 me on. It's been a long time coming. 1974 01:48:05.000 --> 01:48:08.960 So yeah, this could truly I could spend another hour 1975 01:48:09.159 --> 01:48:12.239 just like with how even longer like with the stuff 1976 01:48:12.279 --> 01:48:14.680 that because we talked about everything, but I still feel 1977 01:48:14.680 --> 01:48:17.560 like we're just scratching the surfaces, you know, totally. 1978 01:48:17.760 --> 01:48:19.439 I mean you can do you can do a bonus 1979 01:48:19.479 --> 01:48:26.079 one just talking about themselves, that's true. Yeah. So but anyways, 1980 01:48:26.560 --> 01:48:27.760 it's been fantastic. 1981 01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:30.720 Congratulations on the line. Man, very very glad to hear 1982 01:48:30.760 --> 01:48:34.000 it's going. It's it's that you're like floating on cloud 1983 01:48:34.079 --> 01:48:36.520 nine with this because it's awesome. I'm really looking forward to. 1984 01:48:36.560 --> 01:48:39.199 But I'm like, of the titles that got announced for 1985 01:48:39.199 --> 01:48:40.600 the sub label stuff, it's like some of the most 1986 01:48:40.640 --> 01:48:42.880 exciting stuff for me. That and the Malo you scene 1987 01:48:42.880 --> 01:48:44.119 stuff or just I'm so pumped. 1988 01:48:44.520 --> 01:48:48.279 Oh yeah, no, definitely. And everyone who's listening out there, 1989 01:48:48.319 --> 01:48:50.720 who's already you know, taking a chance on my kind 1990 01:48:50.720 --> 01:48:54.960 of scope. Thank you so much to the subscribers still subscribing. 1991 01:48:55.079 --> 01:48:57.920 Thank you, Thank you for the bottom of our hearts 1992 01:48:57.960 --> 01:49:02.479 because I know it's a lot from but man, you're amazing. 1993 01:49:02.720 --> 01:49:07.199 And the regular customers to spy when they can what 1994 01:49:07.279 --> 01:49:12.279 they can. Thank you for supporting physical media because if 1995 01:49:12.359 --> 01:49:16.159 you don't, we go away. So and not just us, 1996 01:49:16.279 --> 01:49:20.359 but everybody. So yeah, thank you for wanting to own 1997 01:49:20.720 --> 01:49:24.720 your films so that you purchased you to own your 1998 01:49:24.760 --> 01:49:26.119 purchases as it were. 1999 01:49:26.159 --> 01:49:29.399 So beautiful, beautiful way to end it. Yeah, I couldn't 2000 01:49:29.399 --> 01:49:29.800 agree more. 2001 01:49:30.319 --> 01:49:30.880 Thanks Bnon. 2002 01:49:31.039 --> 01:49:31.680 Thank you guys. 2003 01:49:32.279 --> 01:49:37.199 Always a pleasure man, Thank you, jeez man, Just thank Brandon. 2004 01:49:37.840 --> 01:49:40.880 That's so cool. Like I love every time Brandon comes on. 2005 01:49:42.319 --> 01:49:43.720 You know, I think this is you know, this is 2006 01:49:43.800 --> 01:49:46.479 kind of cliche to say, but like everybody you talk 2007 01:49:46.520 --> 01:49:48.199 to you on the staff there, they just love movies 2008 01:49:48.239 --> 01:49:48.560 so much. 2009 01:49:48.600 --> 01:49:49.199 It's so awesome. 2010 01:49:50.039 --> 01:49:52.079 Yeah, I think people really can take that for I 2011 01:49:52.319 --> 01:49:54.039 keep saying in this phrase, but I think people can 2012 01:49:54.079 --> 01:49:57.520 take that for granted when they releases out because they're 2013 01:49:57.720 --> 01:50:02.199 like really are working Nonstine just listening to him talk 2014 01:50:02.199 --> 01:50:06.840 about like working through what happened is is like appendix 2015 01:50:06.880 --> 01:50:11.039 burst and he was like working through like literal medical nightmares. 2016 01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:14.199 But you know, and you're right, like when you've had 2017 01:50:14.239 --> 01:50:17.399 on special special feature features producer, excuse me, like when 2018 01:50:17.439 --> 01:50:20.600 Claudia was on, when even when we talk to like 2019 01:50:20.680 --> 01:50:23.600 Brett with AGFA, like they're living and breathing this stuff. 2020 01:50:23.680 --> 01:50:26.920 So like if it's I think that really speaks to 2021 01:50:26.960 --> 01:50:29.039 the preservation aspect of all of this, which I think 2022 01:50:29.079 --> 01:50:31.800 is the most important part. So again, it's like we 2023 01:50:31.800 --> 01:50:34.079 always say, it's exactly what we wanted from this conversation, 2024 01:50:34.319 --> 01:50:36.760 like exactly what I was hoping to hear, and I 2025 01:50:37.039 --> 01:50:37.920 loved every second of it. 2026 01:50:38.560 --> 01:50:42.000 Well me too, Me too, Eli, We've got some We've 2027 01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:45.560 got kind of an exciting twenty twenty six. Yeah, planned, 2028 01:50:45.600 --> 01:50:47.119 I know you and I have a little bit more 2029 01:50:47.119 --> 01:50:50.560 planning to do to finalize some ideas. But for the meantime, 2030 01:50:51.399 --> 01:50:54.279 Instagram is the Hunk Vacation podcast. We're both on the 2031 01:50:54.359 --> 01:50:57.039 VS discord. Do you want to tease what's coming up 2032 01:50:57.079 --> 01:50:58.680 in the next week or so the next few days. 2033 01:50:59.079 --> 01:51:01.680 Yes, we have an episode we recorded right at the 2034 01:51:01.760 --> 01:51:04.960 end of the year with Celeste where we covered an 2035 01:51:05.039 --> 01:51:09.520 incredible like a Murderer's Row releases in October, which included 2036 01:51:09.560 --> 01:51:14.399 the Wes Craven movie, Fireworks, Woman a Blastic Double and 2037 01:51:15.439 --> 01:51:19.079 Sato Volume one and I feel like I'm missing one more. 2038 01:51:19.560 --> 01:51:21.960 We had a couple like partner titles, but but it's 2039 01:51:22.079 --> 01:51:24.159 just we kind of go through everything. Celest did it 2040 01:51:24.199 --> 01:51:28.399 as a live stream and she also they recommended, you know, hey, 2041 01:51:29.760 --> 01:51:32.800 put this out as an episode. Happy to So We 2042 01:51:32.840 --> 01:51:35.119 got the audio for that and that'll be coming out 2043 01:51:35.159 --> 01:51:38.159 and it went so well, and because there's such a 2044 01:51:39.479 --> 01:51:41.560 an insane amount of titles to cover, we're actually going 2045 01:51:41.640 --> 01:51:44.880 to do this again with the November releases with and 2046 01:51:45.279 --> 01:51:48.800 December partner stuff. So really really excited for that. And yeah, 2047 01:51:48.840 --> 01:51:50.560 it'll be out within the next about a week from 2048 01:51:50.680 --> 01:51:51.600 when this one comes out. 2049 01:51:52.640 --> 01:51:54.319 Yeah, all right, man, Well, thank you as always too. 2050 01:51:54.520 --> 01:51:56.439 Hey, thank you, likewise, man, can't see you, see you 2051 01:51:56.439 --> 01:51:57.199 in the next episode. 2052 01:52:02.079 --> 01:52:06.399 What's up, Supernatural super fans. 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