1
00:00:06,799 --> 00:00:12,400
Speaker 1: You. I'm now listening to soft core History.

2
00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,760
Speaker 2: Welcome back to self core History. I'm your host for

3
00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,559
the week Damage Jester, joined as always by Rob Fox.

4
00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:22,239
Speaker 1: What's going on?

5
00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:22,960
Speaker 2: Hey, Rob?

6
00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:24,039
Speaker 1: How you doing? Said?

7
00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:24,760
Speaker 2: You're feeling good.

8
00:00:25,039 --> 00:00:28,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got some big news. I got some big news.

9
00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,879
Fourth kid. No, no, no, I would kill myself that

10
00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,079
you wouldn't the new You would find out the news

11
00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:35,960
via my obituary would.

12
00:00:35,759 --> 00:00:37,280
Speaker 2: Be great news for me because the only way I

13
00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,240
could afford a fourth child is for my life insurance

14
00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,359
to kick in. Well, the life insurance, but also I

15
00:00:41,359 --> 00:00:44,399
took a policy out on Yeah, I wouldn't have to

16
00:00:44,399 --> 00:00:45,119
do this anymore.

17
00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,840
Speaker 1: Everyone would just everyone just to be a whole lot

18
00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,240
better off. I've never been born, That's what it is.

19
00:00:54,479 --> 00:00:56,840
That's what I got a little wonderful life.

20
00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, thing there gonna understand that?

21
00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,200
Speaker 1: No. Uh told my wife the other day, I was like,

22
00:01:02,119 --> 00:01:05,079
you need to you gotta get a job. These kids

23
00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,599
are too goddamn your wife got a job. No, well

24
00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,519
better yet than that. She comes back out and she's like, Okay,

25
00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,719
I will actually start working on selling ads for you guys.

26
00:01:16,879 --> 00:01:20,840
I will fully start contacting advertisers and so you're not

27
00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,120
just having to do it yourselves in your spare time.

28
00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I got all day. So she has a hobby,

29
00:01:26,599 --> 00:01:30,159
Yeah cool, cool, Well it benefits us, Yeah exactly. Maybe

30
00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,640
if she's good at her hobby.

31
00:01:31,719 --> 00:01:34,040
Speaker 1: If well, if she doesn't do it, then I'm gonna

32
00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:36,079
be back to like I think it's time to feed

33
00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:36,959
the children.

34
00:01:36,719 --> 00:01:39,000
Speaker 2: Now, she just has an excuse to not look after

35
00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:39,480
the kids.

36
00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.

37
00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:40,840
Speaker 2: And it's us.

38
00:01:40,879 --> 00:01:46,040
Speaker 1: Look, if it's getting fucking boner pills and protein supplements on,

39
00:01:46,159 --> 00:01:49,120
we'll do it. Yeah, that's all I want. That's all

40
00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:49,439
I want.

41
00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:50,879
Speaker 2: It's the American dream.

42
00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,319
Speaker 1: What kind of advertisers do you want? I was like,

43
00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:56,400
I don't know, just google Boner and like gains.

44
00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,200
Speaker 2: We're also joined by one mister Scott Lopez.

45
00:02:01,799 --> 00:02:03,760
Speaker 1: Hey, hot dog suit.

46
00:02:03,799 --> 00:02:07,200
Speaker 3: I'm also doing really fucking good right now. Your fucking

47
00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,439
car broke down on the way here as I pulled

48
00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,199
into the parking lot, my car once again broke down

49
00:02:12,759 --> 00:02:15,199
after it being in the shop for the last two weeks.

50
00:02:16,439 --> 00:02:19,560
And uh yeah, that's a lot of fucking money.

51
00:02:19,599 --> 00:02:22,439
Speaker 1: Here's what I think you should do with that car

52
00:02:23,039 --> 00:02:26,159
now at this point, you know, get it fixed ish,

53
00:02:26,439 --> 00:02:29,879
just so it moves and then use it as a

54
00:02:30,439 --> 00:02:34,639
tank in paintball. Ah. Yes, And the only way to

55
00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:37,199
kill a tank in paintball is to build a pretty

56
00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,919
big potato gun. I'm talking with some hefty PVC pipe

57
00:02:40,199 --> 00:02:42,000
and you fire a full paint can out of it,

58
00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,680
and it's got to hit the tank.

59
00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,319
Speaker 3: Ooh. I was thinking more of like a drone cover

60
00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,719
a drone in paint fly. The drone into the kyo

61
00:02:48,879 --> 00:02:51,319
also works. Yeah, yea, yeah, yeah yeah.

62
00:02:51,719 --> 00:02:54,639
Speaker 2: Just have somebody blow up your car collect the insurance

63
00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:55,400
like regular paintball.

64
00:02:55,439 --> 00:02:58,479
Speaker 3: I'm about to do that with myself in it because

65
00:02:58,520 --> 00:02:59,520
it's not fun.

66
00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So two suicidal co hosts with me today like that.

67
00:03:03,599 --> 00:03:06,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I was doing great until thirty minutes ago.

68
00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,919
Speaker 1: I only said side if my mofe was another kid.

69
00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,479
But she's got an IUD so I'm good.

70
00:03:10,879 --> 00:03:13,960
Speaker 2: Solve that problem. Yeah, that's that's news.

71
00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,400
Speaker 1: It's good news too. It helps tell the world. It

72
00:03:16,439 --> 00:03:18,199
helps me a lot too, because, like.

73
00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,199
Speaker 2: A little piece of plastic in your wife.

74
00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,159
Speaker 1: If we do get you know, divorced, or God forbid,

75
00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,360
she passes away. You know, I think I think like

76
00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,439
a big cock block for me, BacT on the open

77
00:03:27,439 --> 00:03:29,919
market would be that I couldn't provide another woman with children,

78
00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,719
like I wouldn't do it, but I would want them

79
00:03:32,719 --> 00:03:34,840
to think I might. But with the exectomy, there's just

80
00:03:34,879 --> 00:03:36,840
no I wouldn't lie about it, you know what I

81
00:03:36,879 --> 00:03:40,800
mean to lie about having a vasseectomy. So just keeps

82
00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:41,360
doors open.

83
00:03:41,479 --> 00:03:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to spend the weekend with peas

84
00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:44,759
on your nuts.

85
00:03:45,039 --> 00:03:50,240
Speaker 1: Also that yeah, with my children absolutely stomping their feet

86
00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,599
straight into my nuts at just jumping lap and when

87
00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:55,680
they do it every day, the amount of times I've

88
00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,599
been hitting the ball, I shouldn't be able to have children.

89
00:03:58,319 --> 00:04:00,960
They just take abuse con instantly.

90
00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,120
Speaker 3: Abuse your children back, dude, Yeah.

91
00:04:02,919 --> 00:04:05,439
Speaker 1: That's what I have to do. I do push them

92
00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:07,479
a lot, like not hard, but enough to make them

93
00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,080
like fall backwards, like get off of my balls, please,

94
00:04:11,319 --> 00:04:13,479
just go And they fall on their butt and they're

95
00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,360
like haha, and then they pop back up and just

96
00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:19,120
start stomping the grapes again like a fucking Italian woman

97
00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:19,959
in a bucket.

98
00:04:20,639 --> 00:04:23,800
Speaker 2: Not quite as bad of abuse as us on the

99
00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,560
Patreon playing the game Successors.

100
00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but close. That was. I mean, we should do

101
00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,560
that to like terrorists we capture.

102
00:04:34,079 --> 00:04:37,160
Speaker 3: I had a fun time spectating that I thought it

103
00:04:37,199 --> 00:04:37,839
was great.

104
00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,079
Speaker 1: Did you. We couldn't tell yea because we were in hell.

105
00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,600
Speaker 2: It's maybe the worst board game I've ever played. We

106
00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,759
literally check it out on the Patreon, Pictreon dot com

107
00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,079
s left Softcore History or you can't check it out

108
00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,560
right now because Scott, we're playing success or now. Yes,

109
00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,040
that is not today's episode. Actually, today's episode is a

110
00:04:56,079 --> 00:05:00,399
pretty uh minuscule event, all things considered. Happy during the

111
00:05:00,439 --> 00:05:04,800
Civil War we specialized in the characters. You know, they're

112
00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:05,839
not major players.

113
00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,279
Speaker 1: What you can do Gettysburg today? No, it feels like

114
00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:10,000
I'm about to get out.

115
00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,000
Speaker 2: This means nothing in the actual war.

116
00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,000
Speaker 1: War has no effect on it? No, okay, But does

117
00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:16,680
it start it?

118
00:05:17,439 --> 00:05:17,600
Speaker 3: No?

119
00:05:17,759 --> 00:05:21,519
Speaker 2: Okay, but it is a funny story. Okay, Okay, I didn't.

120
00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:22,879
Speaker 1: Again, I didn't. If were gonna get this switch, we're

121
00:05:22,959 --> 00:05:25,000
or not because Fort Sumter really had no effect on

122
00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,600
the war except for starting it. But nothing happened.

123
00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,040
Speaker 2: We're going to go into the kind of backstory of

124
00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,560
two major characters of this specific story, and then we're

125
00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,800
going to get into the actual plot of what they did. Okay,

126
00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,079
So let's just get into it. George Hollins was born

127
00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,800
in Baltimore, Maryland, on September twentieth, seventeen ninety nine. His

128
00:05:45,959 --> 00:05:49,639
uncle was Major General Samuel Smith, a hero of the

129
00:05:49,639 --> 00:05:53,639
Baltimore defense during the British attack in September of eighteen fourteen.

130
00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:59,480
Speaker 1: So when the Star Spangel Banner was written, Fort McHenry.

131
00:06:00,319 --> 00:06:04,319
Speaker 2: Smith ranged his nephew George's appointment as a midshipman. That

132
00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,839
very same year, Hollins was first detailed in the USS Erie.

133
00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,800
When Erie failed to escape the British blockade at the

134
00:06:11,879 --> 00:06:16,639
Chesapeake Capes, Hollins transferred to the uss President, commanded by

135
00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,240
Commodore Stephen Decatur.

136
00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,439
Speaker 1: Which you know it's the early eighteen hundreds, obviously you

137
00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,360
need tweens in your military.

138
00:06:27,759 --> 00:06:28,600
Speaker 2: Work in the docks.

139
00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, fifteen probably right fifth either way, Well he was

140
00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,240
born in ninety nine, Yeah, so he was about fifteen

141
00:06:34,319 --> 00:06:37,079
fourteen years old. You need those people.

142
00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,120
Speaker 2: Diketter attempted to break out from New York with the

143
00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:43,120
squadron up the Long Island Sound in January of eighteen fifteen.

144
00:06:43,759 --> 00:06:47,199
During a heavy snowstorm, the President ran aground and was

145
00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:52,120
captured by several British warships. Hollins was a pow in

146
00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,519
Bermuda with Decatur, and of course the War of eighteen

147
00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:01,759
twelve ends a month later in February.

148
00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,240
Speaker 1: That's when they signed the Treaty of Ghent. Right, but

149
00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,879
it still kept going because the Battle of New Orleans

150
00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,240
happens after that, and I gotta think, you gotta think

151
00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,279
what they were POWs for months afterwards?

152
00:07:13,439 --> 00:07:15,639
Speaker 2: News travel slowly, Yeah, news traveling.

153
00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,759
Speaker 1: I wonder what that pod is like, because we just

154
00:07:17,759 --> 00:07:21,160
did an episode on American Revolutionary War POWs. Do you

155
00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,000
know that more POW's died in the American Revolution? American

156
00:07:25,079 --> 00:07:28,360
POWs died in the American Revolution than on all the

157
00:07:28,399 --> 00:07:29,480
battlefields combined.

158
00:07:29,879 --> 00:07:31,480
Speaker 3: I don't think there was rules back then, so I

159
00:07:31,519 --> 00:07:32,319
guess it makes sense.

160
00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,439
Speaker 1: Oh boy, it was a straight up float. It was

161
00:07:34,439 --> 00:07:35,680
a floating concentration here.

162
00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,759
Speaker 3: There was no like, oh we should treat them good.

163
00:07:37,959 --> 00:07:41,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they they actually there were rules, but they

164
00:07:41,759 --> 00:07:44,079
were like, you're not real combatants because you're rebels.

165
00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,680
Speaker 3: Oh whoa, that makes sense. That's why we have Guantanamo

166
00:07:48,759 --> 00:07:52,439
Bay right now. Yeah, because they're like, Taliban isn't really

167
00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:53,319
an army.

168
00:07:53,439 --> 00:07:55,680
Speaker 1: I guess we're just paying it forward. Yeah, And one

169
00:07:55,720 --> 00:08:01,199
day when the Taliban is the greatest nation on Earth soon, hopefully.

170
00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:01,439
Speaker 2: About fifty years or so.

171
00:08:01,639 --> 00:08:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll they'll pay it forward to like a German

172
00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,480
resistance group that's tired of like being oppressed by you know,

173
00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,360
some Islamic caliphate that's swept over the globe.

174
00:08:12,439 --> 00:08:13,879
Speaker 3: And they're all wearing roller blades.

175
00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's how they get so sick, dude, that's

176
00:08:17,199 --> 00:08:18,079
the next s Blitzkreek.

177
00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:18,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, so cool.

178
00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:20,120
Speaker 1: Do you know how hard it would be for a

179
00:08:20,199 --> 00:08:21,839
drone to get you if you're blading.

180
00:08:21,879 --> 00:08:23,839
Speaker 3: Dude, and there was like high on opiums, Like the

181
00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,480
drone takes like five drones just to kill you. Yeah. Yeah,

182
00:08:26,519 --> 00:08:28,560
because you don't feel anything, keep going.

183
00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all a dream.

184
00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Modern problems require throwback solutions. Yes, ancients, get on

185
00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:36,159
those blades.

186
00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:38,320
Speaker 1: It's the way to go.

187
00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,080
Speaker 2: Just pop in brink, dude.

188
00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,360
Speaker 3: And is either the eighties or the nineties. The Marine

189
00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,759
Corps tested skateboards for like urban warfare stuff to like

190
00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:47,480
be fast.

191
00:08:47,759 --> 00:08:47,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

192
00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't work out because if you hit a rock,

193
00:08:49,799 --> 00:08:50,440
you just ate shit.

194
00:08:50,519 --> 00:08:52,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of rubble, But there's just.

195
00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,240
Speaker 3: Earth pictures of like nineties era marines with skateboards like

196
00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,759
practicing and trying to see if that works for like close.

197
00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,919
Speaker 2: That's why the Nordic countries are so good at the

198
00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:06,120
Winter Olympics. They have the ski and shoot events. They've

199
00:09:06,159 --> 00:09:09,639
just been doing that their whole lives, and generation after generation.

200
00:09:09,279 --> 00:09:11,159
Speaker 1: Reigns for Yeah, skiing and shooting.

201
00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:13,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty fucking cool.

202
00:09:14,519 --> 00:09:18,080
Speaker 2: So Hollins eventually gets out of being a pow when

203
00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,840
the war ends, serves again with the Commodore. During the

204
00:09:20,879 --> 00:09:25,720
Second Barbary War. On June seventeenth, eighteen fifteen, they encounter

205
00:09:25,879 --> 00:09:31,159
an Algerian squadron commanded by the infamous pirate race Hammadu.

206
00:09:31,879 --> 00:09:35,799
They killed Hamadu and captured his ship. Decatur picked up

207
00:09:35,799 --> 00:09:38,559
the pirates commander's sword and gave it to Hollands for

208
00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:39,440
his actions.

209
00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:42,399
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, so you gonna just be cutting rebels down

210
00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,600
with a Muslim pirate's sword, the curvious sword you've ever

211
00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:47,960
seen in your life.

212
00:09:48,399 --> 00:09:51,879
Speaker 2: Do you think I'm hyping up a Union soldier or

213
00:09:51,879 --> 00:09:52,879
a Confederate soldier?

214
00:09:52,919 --> 00:09:55,679
Speaker 1: Well, you said Baltimore, so I lean Union on that,

215
00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,240
but oh boy, he went Confederate. Look, Maryland was a

216
00:09:59,279 --> 00:09:59,879
border state.

217
00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,200
Speaker 2: A lot of slaves there were. We're going to the

218
00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,679
backstory of two Confederate soldiers okay. He then took command

219
00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,600
of the Susquehanna and the Mediterranean Sea. When he learned

220
00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,840
of the Civil Wars outbreak on May fifteenth, eighteen sixty one,

221
00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:16,399
he steamed his ship back to Boston, where he resigned

222
00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:17,000
his commission.

223
00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:23,159
Speaker 1: I will say, uh, being in the Confederate choosing the

224
00:10:23,159 --> 00:10:28,480
Confederate Navy is choosing to play on hard because they

225
00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:30,440
didn't have one.

226
00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,159
Speaker 3: That's why you steal pirate ships. I guess you can

227
00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:34,279
just make it work.

228
00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, like they had like that one iron clad, but

229
00:10:36,519 --> 00:10:39,200
like the rest of that, like one of the reasons

230
00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,399
we won the Civil War really is just because we

231
00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,440
had a navy. Yeah, we were the only side with

232
00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,600
a navy. Yeah, it really helped a lot. Like they

233
00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,039
were kind of fucked from the jump.

234
00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,519
Speaker 2: Maybe they were inspired by like a John Paul Jones

235
00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:52,279
that it's.

236
00:10:52,159 --> 00:10:54,759
Speaker 1: The only remote way they could have done navies. And

237
00:10:54,759 --> 00:10:56,799
that's really what kind of what the Merrimack was. The

238
00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,600
first iron clad just one they were like they know,

239
00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,200
like they couldn't even do it with a wooden ship, Like

240
00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,759
we gotta just put metal on something.

241
00:11:02,799 --> 00:11:05,320
Speaker 2: They had a little submarine just popping around yeah, I

242
00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,799
didn't do much, didn't do anything.

243
00:11:06,919 --> 00:11:08,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it struck fear.

244
00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,399
Speaker 2: It was not accepted by the US Navy, and he

245
00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,200
was ordered to be arrested. In the midst of confusion,

246
00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:20,840
Hollins escaped and joined the Confederacy. Richard Thomas Junior was

247
00:11:20,879 --> 00:11:24,399
born on October twenty seventh, eighteen thirty three, in southern Maryland.

248
00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,399
His family was big in Maryland politics, and Richard Junior

249
00:11:28,519 --> 00:11:32,960
was an excellent sailor, marksman, and skilled horseman. He attended

250
00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,440
the US Military Academy in eighteen fifty and left after

251
00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,240
one year before going to California to survey government land.

252
00:11:40,519 --> 00:11:43,759
Speaker 1: Now I know this didn't happen, but I wish it had.

253
00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,679
Is that he was in a naval battle and being

254
00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,559
both a skilled sailor and horseman, they boarded a ship

255
00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,039
and he was on horseback leading his troops from boat

256
00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:54,440
to boat.

257
00:11:54,759 --> 00:11:58,399
Speaker 2: He jumped the horse, yeah, onto another boat.

258
00:11:58,279 --> 00:12:01,159
Speaker 1: Just like a civil war, like fast the furious, like

259
00:12:01,279 --> 00:12:03,840
flying the car from one building into the windows of

260
00:12:03,879 --> 00:12:04,799
another type of thing.

261
00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,000
Speaker 3: That's like the uh I think it's seventeen ninety five

262
00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,039
of the Battle of like Texel or Trexel, something like that.

263
00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,679
The French versus the Dutch. It's the first ever and

264
00:12:13,759 --> 00:12:16,720
the only time a cavalry ever like beat a navy.

265
00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,840
That's because the Dutch ships were just frozen in the harbor.

266
00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:20,639
Speaker 1: Hell yeah.

267
00:12:20,799 --> 00:12:22,840
Speaker 3: And the French were like, oh yeah, we like put

268
00:12:22,919 --> 00:12:25,799
cloth over the hoofs of the horses and snuck in

269
00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,919
there and raided them. And the Dutch were like, yeah,

270
00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,320
we just gave up because what can we do. We

271
00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,159
didn't do I mean, I guess written by the victory

272
00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:33,360
of thing.

273
00:12:33,799 --> 00:12:35,960
Speaker 1: The thing too is like, as long as the cavalry

274
00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,440
doesn't charge at the side with the cannons, yeah, you know,

275
00:12:38,519 --> 00:12:40,559
if you go at the front of the back, there's

276
00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,240
still like a couple cannons on the front and back,

277
00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,720
but nothing major. Yeah, you're fine.

278
00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,320
Speaker 3: That's how they were like, oh yeah, we stormed their ships.

279
00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,279
In the Dutch book, we gave up. We couldn't go

280
00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,399
any we didn't, So technically a cavalry beat a navy once.

281
00:12:53,879 --> 00:12:57,840
Speaker 2: Richard Junior's next stop was China during the Taiping Rebellion,

282
00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:01,879
where he helped fight pirates and for the Qing dynasty.

283
00:13:03,039 --> 00:13:06,559
He then became extremely enthralled by the exploits of Giuseppe

284
00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:12,000
Garibaldi during the Uruguayan Civil War and the wars of

285
00:13:12,039 --> 00:13:13,440
Italy's Unification.

286
00:13:13,759 --> 00:13:18,080
Speaker 1: Garibaldi is their George Washington sort of. I guess it

287
00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,720
didn't last long. No kiss, Mussolini swoops in there.

288
00:13:21,919 --> 00:13:24,840
Speaker 2: Thomas went to Italy in eighteen fifty nine to join

289
00:13:25,039 --> 00:13:29,159
Garibaldi's Red Shirts, but instead he became a lieutenant in

290
00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,720
the Imperial Suave during the French invasion of Italy, so

291
00:13:33,759 --> 00:13:34,360
he gets.

292
00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,159
Speaker 1: Caught up with the French on the other side.

293
00:13:37,399 --> 00:13:39,399
Speaker 2: I imagine he's on Garibaldi's side.

294
00:13:39,399 --> 00:13:40,960
Speaker 1: Okay, then they were with the French, and they were

295
00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,360
probably republic at the time, because monarchists typically would look

296
00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:44,960
out for other moees.

297
00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,639
Speaker 2: I don't think he's inspired by a man. And then

298
00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,840
he goes directly to the opposition.

299
00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,919
Speaker 1: Sound like he's just looking for a fight kind of

300
00:13:52,039 --> 00:13:54,600
what like literally he's fighting to put down rebels in

301
00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,440
China and then goes to Italy and is like rebels.

302
00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,759
Speaker 2: Hell, yeah, dude, Giuseppe could just you know, speak to

303
00:14:01,799 --> 00:14:04,559
his heart. I guess Giuseppe just sounds like a guy

304
00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:09,120
that's working a gelato cart outside of you know, the

305
00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,480
Leaning Tower of Pisa.

306
00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. I can't take that person seriously at all.

307
00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:15,320
Speaker 2: You're not a serious.

308
00:14:14,919 --> 00:14:18,960
Speaker 1: It's the Italian equivalent of like, like every race or

309
00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,080
every ethnicity I should say, has it. Like if you

310
00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,080
meet like a genuine Mexican guy named Juan, I was.

311
00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,559
Speaker 3: Gonna say Pedro, or I can't take up Pedro.

312
00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:28,639
Speaker 1: Right right right, or like I don't even know what

313
00:14:28,679 --> 00:14:31,679
an Irish would be, like Patrick o'patricky or something like

314
00:14:31,799 --> 00:14:34,320
you know what I mean, or just Mick yeah yeah yeah, yeah,

315
00:14:34,399 --> 00:14:39,080
yeah yeah, or a German guy named Hans. You're like, no,

316
00:14:39,159 --> 00:14:40,960
it's too on the nose, No, No.

317
00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,759
Speaker 2: The Second Italian War of Independence was fought between the

318
00:14:44,759 --> 00:14:48,720
French Empire and the Kingdom of Sardinia and the Austrio

319
00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:55,440
Hungarian Empire. While serving in the Imperial Suave, Richard Thomas

320
00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,360
foam love with a French lady who later died in

321
00:14:58,399 --> 00:15:02,039
his arms. He mourned her and even changed his name

322
00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,200
in her honor and became Richard Thomas Zavona.

323
00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:07,360
Speaker 1: He took her name.

324
00:15:07,559 --> 00:15:11,039
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, you.

325
00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,000
Speaker 1: Know anyone who's done that, who's done the double, who's

326
00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,720
done who hyphened his wife's last name.

327
00:15:15,879 --> 00:15:18,200
Speaker 2: It's not even a hyphen name. He just Thomas became

328
00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:19,279
his middle name as Zarvona.

329
00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,720
Speaker 3: You've seen the hyphen on Facebook. I don't know if

330
00:15:21,759 --> 00:15:24,000
they go by it, but I have some friends that

331
00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,200
have both names on their Facebook profile.

332
00:15:26,279 --> 00:15:29,879
Speaker 1: I have a couple of friends, not close friends, who've

333
00:15:29,919 --> 00:15:34,480
like done that, and I'm just like, come bad. Yeah,

334
00:15:34,759 --> 00:15:36,879
just keep she doesn't want to take your name. I

335
00:15:36,919 --> 00:15:39,960
guess fine, but just just keep it at that.

336
00:15:40,679 --> 00:15:43,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to, you know, go above and beyond.

337
00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,840
Speaker 1: You can just you could have made the easy, normal choice,

338
00:15:49,159 --> 00:15:49,799
but you didn't.

339
00:15:50,639 --> 00:15:54,279
Speaker 3: I've seen like growing up football players having like both

340
00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,080
their parents hyphen names on the back of their directions.

341
00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,559
But that's cool. And then you see someone get married

342
00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,960
and have a hyphen name. Not as cool.

343
00:16:02,039 --> 00:16:05,440
Speaker 2: Dude, There's just ways to show that you have no

344
00:16:05,519 --> 00:16:06,600
say in the relationship.

345
00:16:06,919 --> 00:16:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, like, I'm I'm not even against this,

346
00:16:13,039 --> 00:16:16,039
but if you are inclined to say that a dude

347
00:16:16,039 --> 00:16:20,679
who gets pegged is problematically not in charge of that relationship,

348
00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:26,000
wherever you think pegging is, put that like one hundred

349
00:16:26,039 --> 00:16:26,799
feet below it.

350
00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:27,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

351
00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,759
Speaker 2: I would rather get peg than take a woman's last name.

352
00:16:30,879 --> 00:16:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, because that's your soul getting pegged.

353
00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:38,399
Speaker 3: That's fucking great.

354
00:16:38,799 --> 00:16:39,840
Speaker 2: That's generational.

355
00:16:40,039 --> 00:16:41,639
Speaker 1: That's generational pegging.

356
00:16:43,039 --> 00:16:47,120
Speaker 2: Richard Thomas Zaravona returned to Maryland to join the Confederacy.

357
00:16:47,679 --> 00:16:48,759
Speaker 1: By the way, I want to go back to what

358
00:16:48,799 --> 00:16:50,360
we just talked about for a second. If you're on

359
00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:54,120
the fence about doing that and you don't, you really

360
00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,240
don't want to, but you're kind of like trying to

361
00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,960
figure out a way to argue with your wife. Take

362
00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:03,200
her to your grandfather's grave with a bag, don't tell

363
00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,920
her what's in the bag. Then when you get there,

364
00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:12,640
your your paternal grandfather, open the bag, pull out a

365
00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:18,039
just gratuitous strap on the biggest thing you've ever seen

366
00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:20,240
in your life, something that could never fit inside of

367
00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:26,079
a human being, and say, here you go, fuck his grave.

368
00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:31,039
That's what you're doing. Fuck his grave. If you want

369
00:17:31,079 --> 00:17:34,039
my name, if you want your name on my body,

370
00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:39,119
fuck my grandpa's grave. Like fucking no, no lube, no,

371
00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,440
not what you need it for. Well, I don't know

372
00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,599
was that symbolic? Yeah, saltburn berry keyogin, fuck the grave,

373
00:17:48,079 --> 00:17:50,759
Fuck his grave, and I'll do it because that's what

374
00:17:50,799 --> 00:17:55,200
you're asking. So just do it. Put your words into actions,

375
00:17:56,799 --> 00:17:59,440
and if that doesn't work, then I guess just take it,

376
00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:04,480
take the name, but that should send a message. Okay,

377
00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:05,000
I'm done.

378
00:18:05,559 --> 00:18:08,559
Speaker 2: He wanted to steal the USS Pawnee to terrorize the

379
00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,279
Chessbeak because obviously the confederataty again doesn't really have a

380
00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,319
navy zero navy.

381
00:18:13,319 --> 00:18:16,559
Speaker 1: So that is actually one interesting thing about the Confederacy

382
00:18:17,039 --> 00:18:19,000
because if you we've talked about this before, we've never

383
00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,279
done an episode on it. But leading up to the

384
00:18:21,279 --> 00:18:24,839
Civil War, Jefferson Davis was I think SECTEF and or

385
00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,079
maybe Secretary of State. Whatever he was, he was in charge.

386
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,960
He was like the cabinet position, basically in charge of

387
00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,240
the military. I don't know if SECTIF existed yet, it

388
00:18:32,279 --> 00:18:33,640
would have been secretary of War. I think it was

389
00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:34,319
a secretary of War.

390
00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:35,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds right.

391
00:18:35,759 --> 00:18:37,960
Speaker 1: But whatever he was, he kind of charged the military,

392
00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,000
and he made sure to put people he knew. He

393
00:18:42,039 --> 00:18:44,000
was like it's common and he made sure to put

394
00:18:44,039 --> 00:18:45,759
people who he knew would go over to the South

395
00:18:45,839 --> 00:18:49,079
in charge of important forts that were in the South

396
00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,039
and all this stuff, you know what I mean, And

397
00:18:52,079 --> 00:18:57,720
they just to my knowledge, forgot to do that. With

398
00:18:57,799 --> 00:19:01,960
the navy. There is a different Secretary of Navy though

399
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,480
there was a secretary, so maybe that's why. But like

400
00:19:04,519 --> 00:19:06,880
they did a really good job in Buchanan just wasn't

401
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,400
paying attention, didn't give a fuck, which is one of

402
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,480
the reasons he's the worst president of all time.

403
00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,680
Speaker 2: And or actually like let it slide.

404
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,359
Speaker 1: Or yeah, which is even worse. And uh even though

405
00:19:17,519 --> 00:19:21,640
from Pennsylvania, but like but he was still like so yeah,

406
00:19:22,279 --> 00:19:26,440
But like they did a good job of taking a

407
00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,359
lot of arsenals and forts and stuff like that, like

408
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,279
having it ready to go, having a guy there to

409
00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,799
just unlock the doors and surrender the troops and all

410
00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:40,119
this shit. But it just like didn't happen with the Navy,

411
00:19:40,559 --> 00:19:43,559
Like they didn't get a fleet that was like based

412
00:19:43,599 --> 00:19:46,839
in Norfolk, Virginia or something, you know what I mean,

413
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,440
Like they just didn't get a lot of that. It's

414
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,519
just odd. I need to look in to that more.

415
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,319
But my recollection off top of my head is they

416
00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,400
did a good job with the army and just like

417
00:19:58,559 --> 00:20:03,079
forgot that was water surrounding their country.

418
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 3: Keep it on that big overside.

419
00:20:08,039 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 1: They're like imagine like he started to award a You're like, oh, fuck,

420
00:20:12,319 --> 00:20:17,799
we forgot the air Force. Ah shit, Well be we'll

421
00:20:17,799 --> 00:20:18,960
probably be fine.

422
00:20:20,759 --> 00:20:23,799
Speaker 2: He goes to Richmond to meet with Governor John Letcher,

423
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,880
and during the meeting, Letcher thought that Sarvona was somewhat eccentric,

424
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,039
but saw some merit to his plan and promoted him

425
00:20:32,079 --> 00:20:34,440
to lieutenant colonel and gave him one thousand dollars to

426
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:35,200
execute a scheme.

427
00:20:35,279 --> 00:20:38,599
Speaker 1: See's why they lost the war. Huh Sarvona's nation name,

428
00:20:38,599 --> 00:20:41,680
where'd you get it? I took it from my dead wife.

429
00:20:42,039 --> 00:20:43,160
Speaker 2: Wasn't his wife either.

430
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,319
Speaker 1: I took I took it from a dead woman I loved.

431
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:51,119
Huh hmmm. Have you ever thought about just being a

432
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,920
private in the infantry.

433
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,160
Speaker 2: Just like a French woman he had a fling with.

434
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I did name my last car off of

435
00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:02,279
a chick I met at the airport, like a decade ago.

436
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,599
Speaker 1: It's an object at the same now, it's an object.

437
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,240
That's fine.

438
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 2: Sarvona then met with Commander Matthew Fontaine Murray and Captain

439
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,319
George Hollins, who I talked about a little bit earlier.

440
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,640
There reviewed Sarvona's concept and agreed that it could work.

441
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how Maryland stayed in the Union, like

442
00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:23,759
I know how Missouri did, and I kind of remember

443
00:21:23,839 --> 00:21:26,440
how Kentucky did, like all the border states and stuff

444
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,480
like that. But I wonder if Maryland was just fully

445
00:21:29,519 --> 00:21:32,720
at gunpoint, yeah, because because if Maryland got over to

446
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,599
the South, then the capitol is surrounded by the Confederacy.

447
00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:40,319
Like I wonder if Lincoln was just like kill anyone

448
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,000
in Maryland. That speaks out, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

449
00:21:44,039 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 3: One of the weirdest things I ever like noticed was

450
00:21:46,279 --> 00:21:48,200
when I lived in Indiana for a couple of years.

451
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,920
That was the most Confederate flags I've ever seen in

452
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,680
my life, so fucking and I never understood it.

453
00:21:54,039 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I can actually give you a good.

454
00:21:55,519 --> 00:21:57,279
Speaker 3: I didn't know what they did in the war, but

455
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,319
it was very strange just as a state.

456
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 1: It was in the Union, and it gave a lot,

457
00:22:01,559 --> 00:22:03,319
gave a lot of troops the Union. But I can

458
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,880
tell you maybe why that happened. We did an episode

459
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,400
on how Notre Dame football fought the Clan m hm,

460
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,920
the Klan, the fighting Irish. Yeah, that's how I got

461
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,880
the nickname. What. Yeah, they got in a fist fight

462
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,240
with the Klan. That's cool because the clan hated Catholics, right,

463
00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:27,160
So Indiana was the biggest KKK state in the United

464
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,079
States in the twenties.

465
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,759
Speaker 3: I'm sure it still is a lot of races.

466
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,839
Speaker 1: So that might be why they've adopted that to a

467
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:35,960
large extent.

468
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 3: Particularly that's wild. Yeah, I would see. I lived in

469
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,799
the middle of nowhere, so almost every house, yeah, had

470
00:22:42,839 --> 00:22:46,079
either in their garage or just hanging up on their driveway.

471
00:22:47,279 --> 00:22:49,079
Speaker 1: I didn't understand, which is funny because I feel like

472
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,079
rural Indiana, Indiana's back in the Civil War probably hated

473
00:22:53,079 --> 00:22:58,640
slavery because they were doing like non slave agriculture, you

474
00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,079
know what I mean.

475
00:22:59,319 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 3: Crazy.

476
00:23:00,039 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 1: But by the way, another fun fact about that, a

477
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,400
lot of people contribute like, oh, with the KKK, they're

478
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,680
all they were all Democrats or whatever, which is in

479
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,240
the South is true one hundred percent, but for whatever reason,

480
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,799
in Indiana it was the Republican Party. Like the Republicans

481
00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:18,160
in Indiana were very that was the KKKA affiliation. I

482
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,079
don't know why. I don't know what the difference is,

483
00:23:20,319 --> 00:23:24,119
but yeah, it was just an interesting little little bit. Yeah.

484
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 3: Fun.

485
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 2: Zaravona would go to Baltimore and purchase weapons and recruit

486
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,039
men for the venture. They would book passage on the

487
00:23:32,079 --> 00:23:33,960
steamer Saint Nicholas.

488
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: How dare they know? This is just a lot of

489
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,960
callbacks to a lot of episodes here a little bit. Yeah,

490
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,480
because we did an episode on Saint nick Bones and

491
00:23:42,519 --> 00:23:44,519
it's grave or something. I did it.

492
00:23:45,079 --> 00:23:48,319
Speaker 2: This packet boat had a regular run from Baltimore to Washington, DC,

493
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:53,000
with stops at various landings to pick up goods and passengers. Meanwhile,

494
00:23:53,039 --> 00:23:55,759
Hollins was to secure a group of Confederate naval officers

495
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,759
and engineers to meet the plotters along the trip. Once

496
00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:02,640
all were aboard, they would take the Saint Nicholas by surprise.

497
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,720
The Confederates were to then pick soldiers from the first Tennessee.

498
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,960
Once reinforced, the Confederates would use some type of trick

499
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,759
to capture the Pawnee. That's cool, They're gonna They're gonna

500
00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:16,599
capture the boat, take it hostage. And then yeah, the operators.

501
00:24:16,839 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean, these are the first seals.

502
00:24:18,759 --> 00:24:23,039
Speaker 1: Yeah. Literally, Hey, should we make I know, we shut

503
00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:25,319
down our store, but should we reopen it? And you

504
00:24:25,319 --> 00:24:28,119
know how like everyone like like the our employers, for example,

505
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,559
make like hyper patriotic shit. Should we just make hyper

506
00:24:31,559 --> 00:24:34,920
patriotic shit? But for all of America's enemies like an

507
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,359
Isis shirt that says like club and seals since twenty eleven.

508
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,079
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just not gonna open up the store

509
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:42,400
for them.

510
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 3: I support this, I'm the veteran.

511
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,759
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm fine with you making the shirts, but you're

512
00:24:48,759 --> 00:24:50,519
gonna have to sit on that inventory and I'm not

513
00:24:50,519 --> 00:24:52,519
gonna contribute fair enough, fair enough.

514
00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:55,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a Taliban flag give us fifty years.

515
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like come and take it. But it's I

516
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,279
don't even know what to tell, like just a mudd hut.

517
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, it's a goat with like C four strapped

518
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:03,799
to it.

519
00:25:03,839 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, a goat and address exactly would come

520
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:07,759
and take it.

521
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,079
Speaker 2: On the evening of June twenty eighth, eighteen sixty one,

522
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,000
about sixty passengers book their passage, including a very stylish

523
00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:20,839
young lady speaking only broken English with a thick French accent.

524
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,519
Speaker 1: Oh no, oh, dude, don't get traded.

525
00:25:24,839 --> 00:25:25,079
Speaker 3: No.

526
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 2: Her name was Madame la Force.

527
00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:29,319
Speaker 1: Great name.

528
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 3: Oh I thought we were going like with the with

529
00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:35,279
the trans like he disguised himself as a hot babe.

530
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,079
Speaker 2: We'll get to that. We'll figure out who Madame la

531
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:44,599
Force is. Okay, okay. She had several heavy, large trunks

532
00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:46,640
with her that were going to help her start a

533
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,160
business in Washington, because, of course.

534
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,759
Speaker 1: Well yeah, by low, great time to buy property in DC.

535
00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:55,680
You want to start a business.

536
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 2: When the steamer departed Baltimore, she emerged from her stateroom

537
00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:04,440
and flour shamelessly fluent French gushed from her lips. She

538
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,039
radiated charm. A veil covered her eyes and cheeks, but

539
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,759
not her red ended lips. She tossed her fan about

540
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,559
and cocked her head at an angle toward any gentleman

541
00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:19,240
who occupied her attention at the moment. She meandered from

542
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,880
salon to dance hall, flirting as she went from ship

543
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,240
officer to ship officer.

544
00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: Dirty girl, I can do this right now, A veil,

545
00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:31,039
yeah now.

546
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,039
Speaker 2: Captain Kerwin's take of everything was I didn't like the

547
00:26:34,039 --> 00:26:37,839
appearance of the French woman at all. She sat right

548
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,920
next to me at dinner, and so close that our

549
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,720
legs touched. I thought she looked mighty queer. That young

550
00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:48,200
woman behaved just means weird, just means weird. That young

551
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,640
woman behaves so scandiusly that all the other women on

552
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,160
the boat were in a terrible state.

553
00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: They were just like fuck this dirty. I mean shit,

554
00:26:58,519 --> 00:27:01,920
don't change right. One chick is flirting with all the dudes,

555
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,000
and all the dudes you're like, yeah, oh you're so funny.

556
00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:08,160
Oh man, she's so cool at all the other all

557
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,960
the other girls are like bad.

558
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: You bring an outside girl to any group with women

559
00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:15,519
that know each other and they hate them immediately.

560
00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, women hate other women. Yeah, they never support each other.

561
00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:22,519
Speaker 1: With dudes, it's like, what's up. You're like football team,

562
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:24,319
you're fo oh cool.

563
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you connect over the smallest thing.

564
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,519
Speaker 3: And those guys my team, so cool, we're friends.

565
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:30,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

566
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 2: It is said that one crew member, utterly mesmerized by

567
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,880
the lady, leaned over for a kiss, but was caught

568
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,799
with a hand slap on his cheek. Saint Nicholas continued

569
00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:45,680
it's run toward the Potomac. About midnight, several men, including

570
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,400
elderly gentlemen with a cane, came aboard at point Lookout Marylyn.

571
00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:55,400
By this time, one of the volunteers, George Watts, noted

572
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,640
that none of the men acted as if they knew

573
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,039
each other. All our boys gathered about that frisky French lady.

574
00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:06,039
She looked at me as I came in, Lord, I

575
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,559
knew those eyes in a minute. It was the colonel.

576
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:14,839
He then shed his bonnet, wig and dress and stepped

577
00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:19,079
forth in a brilliant new suave uniform.

578
00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:22,519
Speaker 1: I need to see a picture of this guy. What's

579
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:24,039
his name again? Which one is it?

580
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 4: So this is the guy that took the the woman's

581
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,720
last name.

582
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: What's it? Just give me the name because I gotta

583
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,640
see a picture. It's if he doesn't look feminine in

584
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,359
the least.

585
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: It's Richard Thomas Junior. But it's Richard Thomas Zarvona.

586
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: This is me in my hotdog suit with the veil,

587
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,119
trying to flirt with dudes, and everyone's like, that girl's crazy.

588
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if there are pictures, there's probably not photos,

589
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,440
damn it. Yeah. The first one that came up, I

590
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,559
was like, oh my god, but it's not it's not him,

591
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:02,559
shows Hollands and I just really wanted to see.

592
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,279
Speaker 2: So the men quickly opened the trunks and found them loaded,

593
00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:09,519
you know, to the gills, with just guns good to go,

594
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:11,839
and uh yeah, they.

595
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: Those are big trunks. Those are big ass guns.

596
00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:18,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, they take them go to the main deck. They're

597
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:18,519
the captain.

598
00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:23,799
Speaker 3: Now, dude, this is literally the first like American seals

599
00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:26,440
besides the air part so like cells.

600
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,279
Speaker 1: But that was a scene in Munich as well. The

601
00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:33,480
Stevens people were moving about the massade. Couldn't killing all

602
00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:36,400
the uh killing all the Palestinians for the Olympic slaughter

603
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,599
or whatever. It's like Daniel Craig and someone else, uh

604
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,119
just walk up to this group of like Palestinians like

605
00:29:43,799 --> 00:29:47,559
in drag and they're like and then like they get

606
00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:49,400
the Palestinians are like, oh what up girl, and they

607
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,200
get closer and Daniel Craig's just like.

608
00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:55,279
Speaker 3: Cool, it was pretty. It's a pretty Yeah, you can

609
00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:58,079
hide some guns and ethos dresses. Yeah, sure yeah.

610
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: As Arvona's men based onto the deck, the old man

611
00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:04,240
with a cane slipped off his wig and it was

612
00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:07,359
none other than Captain George Hollins. Took over command of

613
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:10,599
the Saint Nicholas. He steemed the ship to the mouth

614
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,440
of the Cohen River on Virginia's side of the Potomac,

615
00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:18,759
where he picked up about thirty Tennessee infantrymen. With these reinforcements,

616
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,000
Hollins had up the Potomac in search of the ten

617
00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:26,839
gun Uss Pawnee, but the gunboat had already returned to Washington.

618
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,119
The other vessels of the Potomac had attempted to capture

619
00:30:31,119 --> 00:30:35,519
the Confederate water batteries commanded by Colonel Daniel Ruggles at

620
00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:39,880
Mathis Point, Virginia. The squadron leader, Commander James Harmon Ward

621
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,960
of the USS Thomas Freeborn, had sent two landing parties that.

622
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: Had been repulsed.

623
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,519
Speaker 2: As Ward was citing a shell gun to cover the

624
00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:51,920
Union withdrawal, he was mortally wounded by a sniper.

625
00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: This in particular, or anything like this would be a

626
00:30:54,759 --> 00:30:58,160
sweet movie, because like, our only view of the Civil

627
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,000
War is like giant engagements, you know what I mean.

628
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,599
You only think about like Antietam and Gettysburg and Vicksburg

629
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,319
stuff like that. But like like any war, there was

630
00:31:08,359 --> 00:31:11,519
lots of like small unit action like that, like rating

631
00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:15,160
of fare of a dock or whatever to like steal

632
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,119
one boat where people died. Like it was a small unit,

633
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,759
small arms fire action where people died, but it was

634
00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:27,319
with you know, flintlock rifled muskets instead of you know

635
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,559
today's small arms and shit like, but it still happened.

636
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:31,839
It's fucking fascinating.

637
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: Ward's death prompted both USS Thomas Freeborn and the USS

638
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,680
Reliance to return to Washington so that Ward could have

639
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,160
a state funeral as well. So the Saint Nicholas was

640
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,160
in search of Union warships without success because everybody had

641
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,400
already packed up shop and.

642
00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:48,039
Speaker 1: Gone back to a safe harbor.

643
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,519
Speaker 2: Yeah Hollins realized that the missing steamer would be would

644
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:55,759
soon be discovered by the Unionist and an overwhelming force

645
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:58,519
would try to recapture the ship. He took the Saint

646
00:31:58,599 --> 00:32:01,920
Nicholas out of the Potomac and into the Chesapeake Bay.

647
00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:06,720
The Confederates came across a large brig the Monticello, loaded

648
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,640
with thirty five thousand bags of coffee, headed from Brazil

649
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,759
to Baltimore. Holland sent this ship to Fredericksburg. One hour later,

650
00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:20,640
Saint Nicholas took the Mary Pierce filled with ice. Lieutenant

651
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,559
Robert D. Minor was placed in command of this vessel,

652
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,680
and he sailed to Fredericksburg. The steamer was by now

653
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,640
running low on coal. However, they conveniently came across a

654
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,759
coal ship and towed the Margaret to Fredericksburg as well.

655
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,000
Saint Nicholas was later commissioned into Confederate service as the

656
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:43,119
CSS Rappahannock Rappahannock.

657
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

658
00:32:43,599 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: So it captures like three merchant ships, gets coffee, ice,

659
00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:50,200
and coal.

660
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: Not a bad haul.

661
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty sweet, I mean.

662
00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: And also they get the ships which they have the

663
00:32:57,039 --> 00:32:59,640
ship none of yeah, not really. So they're building out

664
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,440
their nave, yeah, because I think like one another big

665
00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:07,240
problem with the navy part for the for the South

666
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,440
was that like almost like all the major ports were

667
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,960
in the north pretty much attract New Orleans was probably

668
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,759
the biggest southern port if I had to guess ahead.

669
00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: When Hollins and Zarvona reached Fredericksburg, a ball was given

670
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:24,960
in their honor. They then moved on to Richmond, where

671
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:29,599
even more celebrations were held. George Hollins was promoted shortly

672
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,319
after the capture of the Saint Nicholas to flag officer

673
00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:35,799
and sent to New Orleans to command the Confederate naval forces.

674
00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:40,039
He gained additional laurels with his October eleventh, eighteen sixty

675
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:43,359
one victory during the Battle of the Head of Passes.

676
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:49,160
Richard Thomas Zarvona was not as fortunate. Even though Zarvona

677
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,119
was called a great hero throughout the South for this plan,

678
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:56,119
he was labeled a pirate in the North. Federal forces

679
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,440
in Maryland were on the lookout for the French Lady's

680
00:33:58,519 --> 00:33:59,240
next exploit.

681
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:04,759
Speaker 1: You can't whip that out again. No, that's one and done.

682
00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a cool nickname though. Yeah, I'm the French Lady. Yeah, yoh.

683
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: Zarvona attempted to come up with the scheme to take

684
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,320
over the Debate steamer Mary Washington, but he was captured

685
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,320
on July ninth, eighteen sixty one, when the steamer reached

686
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,440
the dock at Fort McHenry. There was talks of hanging

687
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:32,599
Colonel Zarvona as a pirate, but instead he was imprisoned

688
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,960
at Fort Lafayette in New York Harbor. He was ultimately

689
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,679
exchanged in April of eighteen sixty three. By this time,

690
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,599
Zarvona was suffering from like a severe nervous condition because

691
00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:48,039
he was when he was a prisoner of war for

692
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:52,119
the Union, he was in like tight spaces. Yeah, they

693
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,039
kept him in uh, you know, not the best prison.

694
00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: He was dealing with pow stuff.

695
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 2: So he goes to Europe to he gained his health,

696
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,760
doesn't really work, ends up back in Maryland and he

697
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,559
is kind of living the rest of his life with

698
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,239
like nervous breakdowns and poor health at his brother's house.

699
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:19,920
He ultimately dies March seventeenth, eighteen seventy five in Maryland.

700
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,000
Governor John Letcher of Virginia wrote a memorial in his honor.

701
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,960
Colonel Zarvona was an extraordinary man. If any man has

702
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,599
ever lived, of whom it can be said he was

703
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:36,800
insensible to fear, Zarvona was undoubtedly that man.

704
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: Well, he died of fear. So yeah, there was nary

705
00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:44,400
a clever a man who fought to keep slaves.

706
00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: He was somewhat eccentric, but his eccentricies did not render

707
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,159
him disagreeable. On the contrary, tended to inspire regard for

708
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,039
an excite interest in him. I don't like how they

709
00:35:59,119 --> 00:35:59,719
talk back then.

710
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 1: I just don't. They talked dumb as hell, like quite

711
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,880
a bit more eloquent. It's a very odd like way

712
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:13,840
things have gone, like much worse literacy and spelling even

713
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:20,400
for the literate, but like much more eloquent. Somehow, They're like, look,

714
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,320
only eight people know how to read and write. If

715
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,480
I'm gonna write something down, it's gonna be pretty yeah.

716
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 2: But even the people like didn't know how to read

717
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,599
or write. They would be writing back to their sweety

718
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:32,039
back home. Yeah, and then my dearest Virginia.

719
00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite stand ups as a kid.

720
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,119
I think it was. Uh. I wasn't greg Gyaroldo. I

721
00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:39,360
was somebody else, but he was just like he was like,

722
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:41,360
he's write so beautifully. And if you read like a

723
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,519
letter home from desert storm. This is even before we

724
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:46,360
invade Iraqt. You read a letter home from desert storm,

725
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,519
it's like, Dear Sandra, it's hot as fuck here, my

726
00:36:49,639 --> 00:36:51,360
balls keep sticking to my legs.

727
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: I miss your titties.

728
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:56,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's just the dumbest shit. Yeah.

729
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 2: But back in the Civil war'd be like I want

730
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,079
to caress.

731
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 3: You'll breast.

732
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,679
Speaker 1: That'd probably get you in jail. Yeah, maybe I can't

733
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,280
write the word breast. You're right.

734
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 3: I told my girlfriend like before I went to Afghanistan,

735
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,840
I'm like, oh, yeah, I'll write you letters because it's

736
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,000
like romantic, you know, dear John and shit, yeah you know.

737
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,480
I texted her on Facebook Messenger once a week telling

738
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,400
her I was still alive. I never wrote a letter,

739
00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:26,480
never said anything besides like, hey, I'm good. It was

740
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:30,000
about it the whole time. Then didn't have a single

741
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:33,559
conversation with her. Anyone in my family, my mom ould

742
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:35,960
be the same way. Like every few days, I text

743
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,480
my mom saying I'm alive. That was it.

744
00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: Did she appreciate that, hey, not dead?

745
00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:42,599
Speaker 4: No?

746
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:43,199
Speaker 1: I don't.

747
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe I never asked my child, the girlfriend,

748
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,119
the ex. I couldn't till we broke up as soon

749
00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:54,159
as I got back, So I have no idea. But

750
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,119
I never asked my mom like, hey, were you worried

751
00:37:57,159 --> 00:37:59,760
about me? Because like I was just chilling. You know,

752
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:01,119
it's on YouTube a lot.

753
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: That was nice of her to not dump you during

754
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,719
the deployment. Yeah, but I feel like that's the same

755
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,440
as like dumping you know, your boyfriend with cancer, yeah,

756
00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:14,440
or something like you're like, I'm just gonna have to

757
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,119
stick this out to it.

758
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,039
Speaker 3: It was literally the next weekend, yeah, maybe two weekends

759
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:20,119
after I drove up to see her, we broke up.

760
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:22,840
And I was like, all right, technically my bad. I

761
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,519
guess because we were at the time too. It was

762
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:27,880
my longest relationship just because that was gone for so long.

763
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:28,199
Speaker 1: Yeah.

764
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew her for maybe a month in person total.

765
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,159
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure she was loyal.

766
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,639
Speaker 1: I feel like if you were only dating for a

767
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,280
month before you deployed, she's got the green light to

768
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,599
bring Yeah, she feels.

769
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: Like it you're not together.

770
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just made you feel good going.

771
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:47,599
Speaker 3: It's also why it felt weird because like I asked

772
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:50,360
her out and then three days later, Hey do you

773
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,679
want to go to Afghanistan tomorrow? And I was like yeah,

774
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,719
And so I'd be like, hey, I know, we've just

775
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,599
been dating for like three weeks. I'm going for an

776
00:38:57,679 --> 00:39:01,199
unknown amount of time. I would just text here once

777
00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:03,599
a week. I'm good. That was literally it.

778
00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 4: It's like getting engaged to somebody with stage four cancer. Yeah, yeah,

779
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:07,800
you know how this sounds.

780
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wait, what did you do in Afghanistan? Again?

781
00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 3: Nothing? I was in the infantry. We just like hung out.

782
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:15,639
Speaker 2: What just throwing the football?

783
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,679
Speaker 1: You were in the infantry and you didn't do anything?

784
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,639
Speaker 3: Well, dude, the war was kind of over. It was

785
00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:22,079
like twenty fifteen, okay, And so we would like help out,

786
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:23,840
like SF dudes, like drive them around while they did

787
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,960
cool stuff. Okay, because I was attached to like a

788
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,440
whole SF unit, Seals, Green Berets, Delta guys, you name it.

789
00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:31,679
And they they'd walk up and be like, you guys

790
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,880
want to kill someone today and we're like yeah, and

791
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,360
they'd be like cool, hop in and we just like

792
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:37,480
we would just drive them around while they did the stuff.

793
00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: Was it like jar Head where you had a shot

794
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,119
and they caught it off.

795
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: No, nothing like that.

796
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: Never fired your gun.

797
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 3: No, we fired guns. We weren't allowed to. Sometimes you

798
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,440
couldn't shoot a fifty cow inside the city, which was weird.

799
00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: Huh.

800
00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 3: You're like, there's rules to that. Yeah, that's fucking insane.

801
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: Anytime anyone wants to talk shit on the US military, like,

802
00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:00,280
no one else has as rules, dude.

803
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: The British, the fucking British. They have some essays guys

804
00:40:03,079 --> 00:40:04,719
talking shit to me and they're like, your rules of

805
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,599
engagement suck. You guys can't do anything unless you're getting

806
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:09,960
shot at, And we're like thanks, the British are making

807
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,760
fun of us, fuck you. Yeah, that's true. Like if

808
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,800
if they point a rye flatch, you technically have to

809
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,760
like watch them do it until they shoot, and then

810
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:19,360
now I can legally do this.

811
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 2: I think we have to handicap the war to make

812
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:22,400
it kind of fair.

813
00:40:23,079 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yep, that's exactly what it is. It's like

814
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,400
that you know, you know, the famous Battle of the

815
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,960
Sexes tennis match, the one everyone talks about because it's

816
00:40:33,039 --> 00:40:34,199
the one that a woman won.

817
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're forty five point favorite Billy Gene to give

818
00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:38,679
them the Billy Jean King one.

819
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: Well, there was a bunch of other ones that they

820
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,480
don't talk about, where the dudes won, like a bunch

821
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,679
and one of them was Martina Navratralova playing maybe Bjorn

822
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,960
Borg who was elite back in the day.

823
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 2: None of this matters, and.

824
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: He got he got only second serves, so if he

825
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,400
didn't hit the first, if he didn hit his survey

826
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,320
and it was an amba a point against him, and

827
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,760
she got to use the double lines, so she got

828
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:09,239
a bigger court. He wiped her, wiped her anyway. That's

829
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,440
America and Afghanistan apparently.

830
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:13,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are they.

831
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,199
Speaker 1: Gonna do to us?

832
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know we have air superiority, We have every superiority.

833
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,039
Speaker 3: Yeah. The biggest threat was just like IED's and stuff. Yeah,

834
00:41:23,039 --> 00:41:26,079
and like vehicle bombs and then like Afghan army guys

835
00:41:26,119 --> 00:41:29,599
just shooting you on accident or on purpose. Right, feels

836
00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:31,320
like a lot of them were on The biggest threat

837
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,760
was like being on base, like having an Afghan guy

838
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,639
walk past you and you're like, no, fuck, we're getting

839
00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:39,880
Pat Tillman. Yeah, oh that's my favorite family guy bit.

840
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,840
If do you remember that one? It's and anyways, he

841
00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:46,639
repeats this thing over and over again. But they're like, hey,

842
00:41:46,679 --> 00:41:49,199
we're gonna go attack the enemy, and he's like, we're

843
00:41:49,199 --> 00:41:51,079
gonna go over the hill and kill Pat Tillman. They're

844
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:52,920
like no, we're gonna go flank the enemy and then

845
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,440
kill Pat Tillman. He just says that like ten times

846
00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:55,920
in a row.

847
00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.

848
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,519
Speaker 3: It was amazing.

849
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, this was just kind of an interesting story.

850
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:09,079
I thought about two Confederate officers that scheme up a

851
00:42:09,159 --> 00:42:13,119
plan to hijack a passenger ship to then ultimately try

852
00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:18,800
to take over another gunship. It's a little special Forces

853
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,440
up in the Civil War and a little cross dress

854
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:22,800
in action.

855
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Madame la Force, it's not gay if it's for

856
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:30,880
your country. Yep, it's a solid name, Madame la Force.

857
00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:32,760
That should have been he that should have been a

858
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,599
dead giveaway one. I don't even realize that people were

859
00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:39,000
too naive and sweet back then. Like now, if you're

860
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:44,480
like my name is madame, Like what's death in French

861
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,159
fire May. Yeah, my name is Madame Mailed. Your name

862
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,679
is Madam Death. Let me just check your hair and

863
00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:53,519
genitals real quick.

864
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 3: Darth Vader.

865
00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, although Lady.

866
00:42:57,079 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: Death was the uh that sniper for the Soviet and then.

867
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, what did she do? Just killed the enemy the

868
00:43:04,199 --> 00:43:04,639
whole time.

869
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you had to feel pretty clownish or you know,

870
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,079
pretty silly if you're one of those.

871
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,079
Speaker 2: Those sailors that went in for a kiss with Madame LaForce.

872
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:17,840
Oh my god, they wanted to fuck her. She was

873
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,039
being so flirty.

874
00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:21,199
Speaker 1: By the way, let's talk about that for a second.

875
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,039
He didn't need to do any of that.

876
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: He went above and beyond.

877
00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, he.

878
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: Was having fun. And he's like the cop in South

879
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,880
Parker posts as a hooker, but like Fox all the

880
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,079
johns before dressing them like, that's what this guy did.

881
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,159
Speaker 3: Essentially, his fifteen boys made it on perfectly fine. All

882
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,760
the weapons are there, and he wanted to dress up

883
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:46,920
like a chick. All he had to do.

884
00:43:47,159 --> 00:43:48,639
Speaker 1: He can still druggle your ship, but all you do

885
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,360
is be like I am making so steet. I'm going

886
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,360
to go to my crew and sleep. Okay, Madam the Force,

887
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,840
you have a good time, you know, have a good trip,

888
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,559
happy to have your board, and then that's it. That's it,

889
00:43:59,639 --> 00:44:07,840
I mean, is it? Instead he spends hours flirting, canoodling,

890
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,840
being so flirty. He's pissing off every other woman.

891
00:44:11,679 --> 00:44:15,679
Speaker 2: There, rubbing legs with the captain, like trying to jack

892
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:16,760
them off on under the table.

893
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of questions, far more questions than answers.

894
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,119
Speaker 3: Maybe it's a confident confidence boost before you go into battle.

895
00:44:25,199 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: He's getting into characters. Yeah, that's really it.

896
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 3: He needs that support. But to be like, oh yeah,

897
00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:32,119
I can't do this, that's probably what it is.

898
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,119
Speaker 1: I'm not missing. Yeah, not like in Ocean's eleven. If

899
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,880
they all just like played the black like played like

900
00:44:39,039 --> 00:44:41,519
craps in one all night and then just pulled out guns.

901
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like he could have just been like

902
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:46,000
George Hollins being an old man.

903
00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, here's like the plan is. They're like, all right,

904
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,280
we're just gonna pose his passengers, you know, normal guys.

905
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,159
We're gonna start a business. We'll bring our trunks on

906
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,920
and then he's like no, no, no, no, no no

907
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,440
no no, I'm gonna wear dress, I'm gonna put on lipstick.

908
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,000
I'm gonna have every single guy on that boat wanting

909
00:45:05,039 --> 00:45:10,440
to eat my figurative pussy my box. Yeah, and they're like,

910
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:12,639
but we don't. That seems like you're gonna get a

911
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,920
lot of attention. And I know you, I guess speak French,

912
00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:20,239
but you're not a woman. You have a man's voice,

913
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,159
a man's body, man's feet. In Adam's apple, this seems

914
00:45:24,199 --> 00:45:29,000
like a horrible idea. Trust me, it'll work. It's the

915
00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:30,880
Las Vegas shooter, but with more steps.

916
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: Take these, He was.

917
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,159
Speaker 2: Pan homage to the woman that died in his arms

918
00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:39,639
in Italy.

919
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: The randomly Yeah, they fucked like twice.

920
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 2: Probably even fucking honestly, yeah, honestly.

921
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,559
Speaker 1: Real quick. Before we keep going, we do have some ads.

922
00:45:48,639 --> 00:45:51,559
First up is fit bod. Go to f I T

923
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,119
b O D dot m E slash soft Core to

924
00:45:55,159 --> 00:45:57,760
get twenty five percent off your subscription, or try the

925
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,760
app for free for seven days at fitbod dot slash Softcore.

926
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,559
What is fitbod. It's a personal trainer in your pocket basically,

927
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,599
except two things. One it's cheaper than a personal trainer,

928
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,159
and two it's like if your personal trainer had five

929
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,440
thousand brains. All of other personal trainers because fitbod is

930
00:46:17,679 --> 00:46:23,239
a collectively put together fitness experience from thousands of personal trainers,

931
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:28,159
certified personal trainers that helps you track your fitness, grow

932
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,480
your you know, whatever fitness journey you want, whatever you need,

933
00:46:31,559 --> 00:46:34,480
fitbod does it. They track your stats, they show you

934
00:46:34,519 --> 00:46:37,239
how to do workouts. Dan, you are the Jim Boy

935
00:46:37,519 --> 00:46:38,119
in this group.

936
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: I'm currently in the midst of a transformation into a twink.

937
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah you're cutting.

938
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: I'm cutting.

939
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 2: I'm down to uh two ten now I started at

940
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,480
two thirty five, I'm down twenty five pounds.

941
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: Look at you. And that's all with fitbob Because what

942
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,880
do they do that would they help you track? I

943
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,119
guess like, well, first off, they kind of help like

944
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,719
give you show you what you need to do to

945
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:58,519
like loseeah.

946
00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:02,679
Speaker 2: Obviously, you kind of tell them the equipment you're working with,

947
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,079
whether you're out of the gym, whether you're at your house,

948
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,800
and they kind of build the workout around what you

949
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,559
currently got going on, including my shoulder injury. So I

950
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,360
just kind of tell them, hey, I want to avoid

951
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,079
this area and uh yeah, bam. And you tell them out.

952
00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:20,679
Speaker 1: You tell them your goals too, so they tell you

953
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,760
how to use the equipment in terms of like achieving

954
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,440
that or whatever. So if you're like you are slightly

955
00:47:25,559 --> 00:47:29,280
cardio averse, now I have to do more cardio Now

956
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,800
you do? Yeah, but they help you with whatever you

957
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,880
whatever goal you have and whatever you can do and

958
00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:41,079
can't do, whether it's equipment or like with Dan, an injury, whatever,

959
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,280
they will track it. They will track your progress along

960
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,719
with telling them an injury. They know, like the app

961
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,559
will tell you, like, all right, you did legs yesterday,

962
00:47:48,639 --> 00:47:50,559
so we're gonna let the legs rest today. Today's what

963
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,960
shoulders arms? Whatever? Yeah, I mean it is again, it

964
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:57,320
is just having thousands of personal trainers in your pocket.

965
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,679
It's cheaper than having one personal trainer, and it is awesome.

966
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,719
Fitbod's help. This man lost twenty five pounds.

967
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,599
Speaker 2: Twenty five pounds in just three months.

968
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: Look at this, Look at them.

969
00:48:09,039 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 2: You know pop top yet I'm poppin' top in September.

970
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,159
Speaker 1: All right, well, I'll make sure we do that on

971
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:17,760
our September Fitbod read that's got to be the episode

972
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,800
for that. Again. They customize your workouts, they track all

973
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,559
your stats, they track your growth, they do muscle recovery.

974
00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:25,840
They track that as well, and it's fine tuned by

975
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,280
experienced personal trainers to bring you the best practices the

976
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,920
exercise science to you. And again they show you how

977
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,639
to do the workouts. There's a ton of videos, thousands

978
00:48:33,679 --> 00:48:35,159
of videos about how to do So you have the equipment,

979
00:48:35,199 --> 00:48:36,599
you don't know what you're doing, they'll show you how

980
00:48:36,639 --> 00:48:39,280
to do it on the videos. Simple, easy, Even a

981
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,760
dummy like me can do it. Honestly, Dan uses it

982
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,639
because it's a great app, but he's smart. He goes

983
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:45,679
to the gym all the time. He knows does videos

984
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,480
and stuff there for people like me that are like

985
00:48:47,519 --> 00:48:48,880
I don't know what to do with this weight of

986
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,760
the nerds, Yes, other than pick it up, That's all

987
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,920
I know. So whether you're an experienced gym rat like

988
00:48:55,079 --> 00:48:59,519
Dan or you are not one like me, fitbod rules.

989
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:01,360
It is the best thing to use. I'm telling you

990
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,360
you will not regret your investment, neither will your body.

991
00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:07,159
In fitbod again, get in shape this summer with fitpod.

992
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,960
Join fitbod today to get your personalized workout plan. Get

993
00:49:10,039 --> 00:49:12,599
twenty five percent off your subscription, but try the app

994
00:49:12,639 --> 00:49:15,840
for free for seven days at fitbod dot e slash softcore.

995
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:19,440
That's f I T B O D DOT M E

996
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,960
slash softcore. It seems like a horrible plan that worked

997
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,719
out incredibly well.

998
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: And honestly, it didn't really work that well. They got

999
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,519
three four boats.

1000
00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:32,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't do a whole lot of circumstands.

1001
00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:34,519
Speaker 2: Right, they're all merchant boats. Though, what are you gonna

1002
00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:39,000
do with merchant boats? They need any boat, I guess transportation.

1003
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: They need any boat.

1004
00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1005
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: Well, they had a big thing of like getting supplies

1006
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,679
into the South was literally blockade running. So yeah, anything

1007
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,079
you can get, you gotta fucking take it at that point,

1008
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:53,199
because again, they just forgot about the water. Yeah, they

1009
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,760
forgot about it, which is why one of the first

1010
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,079
things the Union did after they blocked hated the entire South.

1011
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,400
People forget like people act like, oh man, the South

1012
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:08,320
was fucking wiping the North the whole time until Gettysburg.

1013
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,199
Not true, we were killing in the West like uh

1014
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,159
Shiloh was eighteen sixty two. We were doing well in

1015
00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:16,719
the West the whole time, pretty much. But the blockade

1016
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,800
was a problem from the beginning, and b the Americans

1017
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,519
made it a priority to be like, let's take their

1018
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:24,639
one good port which is New Orleans. Yeah, and we

1019
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,079
took it in eighteen sixty two. I like just fucking

1020
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:30,159
came in and fucking smashed them and controlled New Orleans

1021
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,880
for the rest of them from eighteen sixty two on

1022
00:50:32,199 --> 00:50:33,400
controlled New Orleans. Yeah.

1023
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 2: So you know who was in charge of our navy

1024
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,360
at the time, who our boy Gideon Wells.

1025
00:50:39,519 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, he knew what he was doing, so he.

1026
00:50:43,639 --> 00:50:48,159
Speaker 2: Maybe wasn't compromised by Jefferson Davis clearly, Yeah, or they

1027
00:50:48,159 --> 00:50:49,360
didn't even try to attempt to.

1028
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, fuck, fuck, we're not gonna get it.

1029
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,760
We're not gonna get a navy. But yeah, like they

1030
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,880
made it. They had it. They did a pretty good

1031
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,480
job of prioritizing strategic things at the beginnings of a

1032
00:51:02,519 --> 00:51:06,000
war the Union did. The only problem really in the East,

1033
00:51:06,679 --> 00:51:09,920
the primary theater was execution. But in navy and in

1034
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,239
the West, no problem, no problems from the start, no problems.

1035
00:51:14,519 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 3: I like to think of like there's a Confederate blockade

1036
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,199
somewhere in the Union ships stressing out about passing through it,

1037
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,920
and as they get closer they realized, oh that's an

1038
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,760
ice ship. Yeah, that's that's a coal ship. But They're like,

1039
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,840
oh God, we're about to go through those blockade and

1040
00:51:29,199 --> 00:51:30,639
it's just merchant ships.

1041
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: With like eight cannons.

1042
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,679
Speaker 3: All right, hey, you can't pass here. Fuck all right,

1043
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:34,199
they passed.

1044
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: God damn it. No, yeah, I mean the main the

1045
00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:41,039
main thing defending New Orleans wasn't even boats. It was

1046
00:51:41,079 --> 00:51:46,760
that there was a fort further up the river, basically

1047
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,000
at the mouth of where Thessissippi hits the Gulf of Mexico.

1048
00:51:49,039 --> 00:51:51,239
I think maybe Fort Moultrie, I don't remember off the

1049
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,599
top of my head, but that was the main thing.

1050
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,000
Protecting New Orleans from the Navy was just a land

1051
00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:58,840
Ford and the Navy came in and just fucking smashed

1052
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,760
it and then got to New New Orleans. My favor

1053
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,159
this is one of the favorite things Civil Wars. It

1054
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,840
got to New Orleans. They didn't even really bother to

1055
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,960
invade the city. They were just like, surrender or we'll

1056
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,920
blow the levees. Yeah, like, we'll just shoot our cannons

1057
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,440
at the fucking levees and then anchor in the French quarter.

1058
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:21,039
You fucked New Orleans is like God, all right, God

1059
00:52:21,159 --> 00:52:25,840
damn it, Well you got us. Yeah, So that is

1060
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,079
our story for today. What did you boys learn everything?

1061
00:52:31,199 --> 00:52:35,599
I learned that this guy was playing out his kinks

1062
00:52:35,679 --> 00:52:40,800
on the battlefield. There was more to that motivation than mirror.

1063
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just wanted to do it.

1064
00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was a fetish, like absolutely superfluous.

1065
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 2: He was getting off just being in somebody else's skin

1066
00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:52,119
like a tennis rentals.

1067
00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: How far did he go?

1068
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 3: It was hard on just poking through the dress.

1069
00:52:55,199 --> 00:52:57,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, we only know the story that was told. We

1070
00:52:57,679 --> 00:53:00,719
don't how many sailors did he jack, Like he might

1071
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:07,519
have blown a sailor just for the sake of the story,

1072
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:10,599
I think we can confirm he he blew, He blew

1073
00:53:10,639 --> 00:53:13,880
a sailor, He blew a sailor.

1074
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,519
Speaker 2: He was gang banged.

1075
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: Because here's here's why it would be smart to blow

1076
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:23,400
as many sailors as possible if you're this guy, because

1077
00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:26,239
then if someone accuses you of not being a woman,

1078
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,039
twenty people for their own self preservation.

1079
00:53:31,079 --> 00:53:31,519
Speaker 2: That's a woman.

1080
00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:35,159
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, that's a chick. I didn't fuck it, dude, Yeah,

1081
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,199
that's a check and obviously a chick. They have to

1082
00:53:39,519 --> 00:53:42,079
like it. Doesn't even even if they no one else

1083
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:46,760
knows that they got blown. They for their own peace

1084
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:51,159
of mind will demand that everyone agree he was a woman.

1085
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,920
So if he was a true strategist, a true clever

1086
00:53:55,559 --> 00:53:59,679
you know, proto Confederate Navy seal, which I believe he was,

1087
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,440
he sucked a lot of dick that night.

1088
00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I learned the origins of why they

1089
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,000
say the Navy is gay.

1090
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,559
Speaker 2: This is where that comes from the Confederates. Though, yeah,

1091
00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:16,280
it doesn't count.

1092
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 3: They're the first dude.

1093
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,519
Speaker 1: At one point they're just like, you gotta stop, it's

1094
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:22,760
time to open the guns.

1095
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,679
Speaker 4: He's like just a two bule, Like we could have

1096
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,159
taken this ship over hour Yeah, hours ago, we could

1097
00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:30,960
have taken this ship.

1098
00:54:31,199 --> 00:54:33,119
Speaker 2: But you you're playing out your sick fan.

1099
00:54:36,599 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: But also they really kind of could have, like the

1100
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,280
moment they got on the boat, just taking it over

1101
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,079
it as.

1102
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: Soon as they take off. Yeah, all right, like stay

1103
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,960
in your room, fan yourself whatever. You don't have to

1104
00:54:50,039 --> 00:54:52,239
actually be so flairtaous.

1105
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:57,519
Speaker 1: This guy's playing shit out. Yeah, and he blew at

1106
00:54:57,639 --> 00:54:59,079
least five sailors.

1107
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,079
Speaker 2: I just like that the captain could just you know,

1108
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,119
sniff it on him, just like something about this this woman.

1109
00:55:06,159 --> 00:55:06,639
I don't like.

1110
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's true.

1111
00:55:11,199 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 3: For a huge feet and the fact that she's got

1112
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,719
like five o'clock shadowy, hairy hands and ship.

1113
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,159
Speaker 2: But you know, it kind of passes for a French woman.

1114
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:21,760
Back then, they don't know that is true.

1115
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: It kind of does. Yeah, you don't have to shave

1116
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:25,000
your armpits or anything.

1117
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 4: They probably hear stories they're like, oh, the hairy woman,

1118
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,360
but also your average like you know, bottom of the

1119
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,599
barrel sailor, especially a river sailor.

1120
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,639
Speaker 2: Oh you gotta think he was like shaving his legs

1121
00:55:36,639 --> 00:55:37,559
and stuff for this role.

1122
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:38,639
Speaker 1: No, not back then.

1123
00:55:39,639 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 2: Maybe a little because like women don't have the hair.

1124
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 1: We have, that's true.

1125
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 3: He had to do something.

1126
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean he's wearing a full length dress,

1127
00:55:48,599 --> 00:55:52,679
I assume, and if he's just doing mouthwork, they're not

1128
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:53,239
going to get.

1129
00:55:53,159 --> 00:55:55,559
Speaker 3: To his body. You're right, I mean women might have

1130
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,039
the leg hair we have. Do you think he wore

1131
00:55:58,119 --> 00:55:58,800
like a corsette?

1132
00:55:59,280 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1133
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely? First off, do I think he did? Yeah, he

1134
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,880
went the full nine. His hips were popping, dude, he

1135
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,039
did everything everything.

1136
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,119
Speaker 3: He was a woman that'll blush on the cheeks, lipstick,

1137
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:18,760
He had red lips.

1138
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:23,119
Speaker 2: Right, what's worse him doing this and going all out

1139
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,559
as a French woman or taking a French woman's name.

1140
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,159
Speaker 1: I'm taking the name I am now actually of the

1141
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:37,280
opinion that he longed to assume her identity. This guy

1142
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,599
wanted to steal this woman's ideity. I think it killed her.

1143
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:45,159
Actually was in his arms. Yeah, yeah, she did die

1144
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,639
in his arms. It's another way to say strangled.

1145
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean strangling is dying in someone's arms.

1146
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. So he killed her. Dreamed of being her as

1147
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,199
soon as he saw her, dreamed of being her.

1148
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 2: I wanted to live a day in her skin.

1149
00:57:02,679 --> 00:57:06,079
Speaker 1: Finally got his chance. His mental breakdown actually began when

1150
00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:08,760
he realized he could no longer live as her and

1151
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,440
must go back to his life as a naval officer.

1152
00:57:12,599 --> 00:57:15,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta look out for the French lady taking boats.

1153
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And for one magical night that was his peak.

1154
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:23,559
For the only night of his life he ever truly lived, he.

1155
00:57:23,719 --> 00:57:25,199
Speaker 3: Was her, Madame LaForce.

1156
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:25,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1157
00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:31,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, so uh, let's put a statue for her, Yeah,

1158
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,360
bringing back Confederate statues. Let's bring back Madame LaForce.

1159
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: We should build the statue. Wait, we should actually like

1160
00:57:41,079 --> 00:57:45,880
go to a small southern town and be like, fuck,

1161
00:57:46,199 --> 00:57:50,079
fuck the woke piecy bullshit, We're gonna build. We want

1162
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:53,039
to raise funds to build a Confederate statue for this person,

1163
00:57:53,199 --> 00:57:56,320
you know, and say it's him too, and then when

1164
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,519
the statue comes up, it's just a man in a

1165
00:57:59,639 --> 00:58:01,199
dress with a raging erection.

1166
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,159
Speaker 3: Next. Okay, so we reopened the softcore site that wasn't

1167
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,119
gay shit. Well, this is full Confederate hero.

1168
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 2: This is Richard Thomas Ervona.

1169
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:11,519
Speaker 1: That's what he did.

1170
00:58:12,199 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 3: We do a full camo shirt right for the for

1171
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,280
the soft coore website, Confederate flag giant and it just

1172
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:23,679
says La Force underneath it. Softcore history merchant yck.

1173
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: No one will know we said we do patriotic gear

1174
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,639
for all of America's enemies.

1175
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 3: Exactly.

1176
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I really want to get a petition

1177
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,079
going for the statue. Yes, I want a Confederate statue

1178
00:58:38,159 --> 00:58:38,840
of Madame.

1179
00:58:38,639 --> 00:58:43,559
Speaker 1: LaForce full dress again, needs a musket erect with two

1180
00:58:43,719 --> 00:58:46,840
Union sailors, just like you know that Teddy Rosevelt statue.

1181
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,760
They get taken down where the black dude and the

1182
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,800
Native American were next to him as he rode a horse.

1183
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:53,159
This one is like the same thing as Madame LaForce

1184
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,360
with a sailor in each arm, and they're just like

1185
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:59,840
groping him again, but they're looking up at her face

1186
00:59:00,039 --> 00:59:04,679
and those beautiful red lips, huge erection protruding out of

1187
00:59:04,719 --> 00:59:05,519
the they don't notice.

1188
00:59:06,239 --> 00:59:08,639
Speaker 2: Because I want a redneck to have to defend that statue,

1189
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,079
because one of the big.

1190
00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:14,239
Speaker 1: Big arguments is like, hi kind of rice history. Well,

1191
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,639
well I dare you to use that line now? All right,

1192
00:59:18,719 --> 00:59:20,199
dare you to go against that line?

1193
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,719
Speaker 2: Now, let's see how much you really care about the sea.

1194
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,239
Speaker 3: You gotta have the statue.

1195
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Who's who's today's hitler the North?

1196
00:59:34,039 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: Obviously I'm gonna go with this guy for killing a

1197
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:44,119
French lady and stealing her identity, and also for just

1198
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,880
doing an over complicated plan.

1199
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could have just been an old guy like Hollins.

1200
00:59:48,679 --> 00:59:50,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you could have even been the French lady

1201
00:59:50,599 --> 00:59:52,800
and just been like most tie up to my room

1202
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,920
and then and then you roll out the guns immediately.

1203
00:59:56,079 --> 00:59:57,719
Speaker 2: You don't have to go to every guy there.

1204
00:59:58,239 --> 01:00:00,599
Speaker 1: And I guarantee a little No one in his unit

1205
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:07,000
was like let him cook. No one they were all like.

1206
01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 2: Let's see how this plays out.

1207
01:00:08,119 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: Yes, what is happening? When are we going to do this?

1208
01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:16,920
Every minute we are not taking over this ship is

1209
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,639
another minute think of for real life.

1210
01:00:18,719 --> 01:00:22,239
Speaker 3: I mean, they're worried he's getting compromised. He went all

1211
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,880
in so much that uh, like the guy who was

1212
01:00:26,599 --> 01:00:30,519
like a what Watts, he went all in. So the

1213
01:00:30,559 --> 01:00:34,400
guy Watts was just like, where's our colonel where? And

1214
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,480
then he finally like you know, he d wigs and

1215
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:42,719
it's like, holy shit. It must have been so easy

1216
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,519
to just fool people back then, Rubes.

1217
01:00:45,159 --> 01:00:46,519
Speaker 1: A lot of them. What we talked about on a

1218
01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:49,840
Patreon episode the other day about how one of the

1219
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,199
biggest parts of the GDP up until like the eighteen

1220
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,719
fifties was just lotteries. There were lotteries constantly.

1221
01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 2: Also, women was just ugly. Yeah, so yeah, like a

1222
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:05,039
handsome fella and drag might do it for them, that's

1223
01:01:05,079 --> 01:01:05,880
the thing, doesn't for me.

1224
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: Now, let's be honest, fair enough, if you have any

1225
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,719
if you have any gay friends who do drag, suggest

1226
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:12,800
the name Madame LaForce.

1227
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 3: Madame LaForce. I gotta get back into the scene.

1228
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:16,639
Speaker 1: I was.

1229
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 3: I was big into going to drag shows Indiana because

1230
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,760
it was just fun, Like Redneck's doing that. I gotta

1231
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,599
get into the Austin scene. I'm sure it's a lot

1232
01:01:24,719 --> 01:01:26,599
I'm sure it's vibrant.

1233
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 2: Even better than the statue. Drag Queen's story Hour at

1234
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,920
a Southern library, Madame.

1235
01:01:33,679 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 3: LaForce, you can't stop it.

1236
01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're reading pro Confederate literature.

1237
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just want to see people.

1238
01:01:42,039 --> 01:01:44,559
Speaker 4: I want to break everyone's brains. Yeah, yeah, that's that's

1239
01:01:44,719 --> 01:01:48,599
all I want to do, is just glitch everyone. Possibly,

1240
01:01:48,599 --> 01:01:51,360
I want everyone to be mad. Then it's me and

1241
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,400
like a crop top and George with like an ar

1242
01:01:53,559 --> 01:01:55,239
out front of the library, like you can't come in

1243
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,679
here and disrupt. You to be so confused?

1244
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,159
Speaker 3: Free speech, motherfucker.

1245
01:02:02,519 --> 01:02:04,679
Speaker 1: And actually, if anyone wants to disrupt it, accuse them

1246
01:02:04,719 --> 01:02:07,679
of being woke because it's pro Confederate.

1247
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, like what are you, Marry not woke?

1248
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: It's a fucking dragquin there, that's a drag queen talking

1249
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,840
about the glory of the Confederate States of America.

1250
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,599
Speaker 3: Then you're just raising money for the statue.

1251
01:02:17,639 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, just have a stroke.

1252
01:02:23,159 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 3: Oh, we need to make this happen.

1253
01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: This is my goal. Now.

1254
01:02:27,199 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 2: I just want to Madam the four statue and drag

1255
01:02:29,519 --> 01:02:33,440
Queen in like Birmingham, Alabama.

1256
01:02:33,679 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 3: We got biscuits and gravy come on down. You can't

1257
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:37,960
stop it, dude.

1258
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 2: Anyway, Lopez, thank you so much for you know, risking

1259
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,000
it all coming here, having a car breakdown.

1260
01:02:45,239 --> 01:02:47,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta get towed out of here.

1261
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,679
Speaker 4: Super excited when you get like a pig fucking gofund

1262
01:02:50,719 --> 01:02:52,239
me for your goddamn vehicle.

1263
01:02:52,679 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 3: Dude, it sucks. Then I got a yeah, rent a

1264
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,880
car to go to work. I'm super excited for it, guys, yep.

1265
01:03:00,679 --> 01:03:02,519
Should I'm just glad I made it because the last

1266
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,800
twenty minutes getting here was terrifying. Yeah, if I can

1267
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,760
just make it six more miles, I can at least

1268
01:03:09,159 --> 01:03:09,800
go on the show.

1269
01:03:11,199 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 2: And honestly, just doing this episode was worth it. For

1270
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:14,960
the last five minutes, it just happened.

1271
01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just came up with just the greatest idea

1272
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,480
of gold that we've ever had.

1273
01:03:20,039 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 2: So thanks for tuning in.

1274
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:23,159
Speaker 1: Guys.

1275
01:03:23,639 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 2: Make sure to check out our Patreon, where you have

1276
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,800
two additional episodes every week every Wednesday and Friday, and

1277
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,079
at this point three and a half years of evergreen

1278
01:03:30,239 --> 01:03:36,559
content so much including our our Game of Successors, which went.

1279
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:37,559
Speaker 1: So well, that's what that is.

1280
01:03:38,199 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was terrible and we will never open that

1281
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:42,519
box again.

1282
01:03:42,679 --> 01:03:46,119
Speaker 1: No, no. If you want to bring a gun next

1283
01:03:46,159 --> 01:03:47,760
time and we can just shoot the box.

1284
01:03:47,639 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 2: Play a little Russian Roulette, I'd rather play that. That

1285
01:03:50,559 --> 01:03:55,639
would rather successors Scott working, the good people find you?

1286
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, last ro Lopez on Instagram. That's it.

1287
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,039
Speaker 1: Peep him, peep his ship.

1288
01:04:02,599 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 3: Send send me money from my.

1289
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:08,679
Speaker 2: Car ven Veno same thing, lest Lopez.

1290
01:04:10,519 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: Do that.

1291
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:12,079
Speaker 3: I'm scared.

1292
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,719
Speaker 2: Five dollars a month. Join our Patreon. Get just so

1293
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,639
much unlimited content. Everything we keep it going. We don't miss,

1294
01:04:20,199 --> 01:04:24,880
we don't miss baby. But for rough focks Scott Lopez,

1295
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,760
I'm damn regester. You just got sauce served