Speaker 1: Oh bad of that ardor Hello, and welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: This is the Cult of Conspiracy and I am the
Speaker 2: Cage to Nike, and today we have on a new guest.
Speaker 2: He's you know, unknown to some of our cult members,
Speaker 2: but I am super excited to have this conversation. Drew
Speaker 2: Ski from the Cryptied Warfare podcast. Brother, what is going on?
Speaker 3: What's going on? Guys? I appreciate you guys. Yeah, hit
Speaker 3: me up and yeah, hanging out man?
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah dude. Yeah, So how long you've been podcasting?
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, let's see. I started up back in twenty
Speaker 3: sixteen and then.
Speaker 4: Cool, wait about damn.
Speaker 3: And then like stopped for a little bit because because
Speaker 3: the guy who was my co host, we kind of
Speaker 3: run into some scheduling issues and then uh yeah, so
Speaker 3: his wife got pregnant and then I got full flights
Speaker 3: of my job and then we just stopped and then
Speaker 3: we picked it back up right before COVID d it.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you've been in it since as far as
Speaker 2: this iteration of it, since twenty twenty give or take, yes.
Speaker 3: Sir, Yeah, yeah, fuck yeah, dude, yeah, twenty twenty twenty
Speaker 3: nineteen around there. Yeah, I think it was October twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so cryptid warfare. I'm assuming that it's more
Speaker 2: cryptid based as far as the conspiratorial conversation goes. But
Speaker 2: I'll kind of go all over to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's funny, is that for to start off
Speaker 3: like that? But now since he's left, I moved over
Speaker 3: to cryptid warfare and conspiracies podcasts.
Speaker 5: So yeah, we just dive into anything conspiracies and times prepping,
Speaker 5: people who got stories, cryptives, paranormal hill matter.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, so you said in time, So I take
Speaker 2: it we're talking like biblical end times eschatology, that kind
Speaker 2: of jam. Yes, sir, Yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah. So
Speaker 2: your cost is still a part of it, then, no,
Speaker 2: he's not. Oh so you're a one man show.
Speaker 3: These days, yep, just solo brother, dude.
Speaker 2: That's hell yeah. I mean, it's kudos to you. That's
Speaker 2: fucking wild. I see these dudes do it and ladies
Speaker 2: out there doing the one man's show thing, and they're
Speaker 2: just kind of ranting for an hour. I'm jealous of them.
Speaker 2: I can't do it. I got to have the back
Speaker 2: and forth, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear that, man, I hear that. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: was yeah, I definitely had to change like my dynamics
Speaker 3: of everything because him and I kind of fed off
Speaker 3: each other. And then uh so I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to really kind of really think about
Speaker 3: this and slow down and yeah, just really just really
Speaker 3: think on the guests who I'm getting and you know,
Speaker 3: stuff like that, and like what we're going to talk about.
Speaker 3: So it's all good though, it flows, it's all good.
Speaker 4: So that's awesome. Do you post on like YouTube and
Speaker 4: you post everywhere kind of thing? Awesome?
Speaker 3: Yeah, apples, Spotify, YouTube, all that.
Speaker 2: So how's the YouTube going? Because we are not welcome
Speaker 2: on YouTube and have not been from that sometimes, so like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's bad. Yeah YouTube like the actuallys of Vendetta against us,
Speaker 2: which is fine, it's cool. Yeah, we didn't realize we
Speaker 2: were leaving money on the table when that kick happened,
Speaker 2: because back in those days, we weren't doing this as
Speaker 2: like a profession. This was completely a hobby and almost
Speaker 2: just for the kicks. But then now looking back at it, like, man,
Speaker 2: we fucked ourselves. So how is the YouTube world going
Speaker 2: for you?
Speaker 3: That's going on right? Man? It's actually actually studied climbing,
Speaker 3: So I really wasn't heavy on it, and till about
Speaker 3: like a year, like a year, like a year and
Speaker 3: a half ago, I basically just put stuff in on
Speaker 3: Apple and Spotify and barely anything on YouTube. And then
Speaker 3: one of my buddies is like, dude, you really just
Speaker 3: got to start hitting hard on YouTube whatever whenever you upload,
Speaker 3: upload to everything. So I'm like, okay, and then you know,
Speaker 3: it's you know, it's basically just like City Grown.
Speaker 5: But I've had had two flags on me already. It's
Speaker 5: not because the podcast. It's because like the gun training
Speaker 5: and stuff like that we do.
Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, so like that now we have to
Speaker 2: talk about the gun training. Explain what you mean? Would
Speaker 2: you call yourself a gun tuber or do you consider
Speaker 2: yourself really so that does gun stuff?
Speaker 5: Well, so basically okay, so so basically yes, so I
Speaker 5: do this podcast, but like a real bread and butter
Speaker 5: is cryptied, honey. But we also do a lot of
Speaker 5: survival training. We teach people like a lot of like
Speaker 5: gun tactic stuff like that, and uh, you know, so
Speaker 5: that's kind of like our bread and butter. But whenever
Speaker 5: I get extra time, you know, to and you know,
Speaker 5: basically just to talk about stuff interview people. It's you know,
Speaker 5: secondaries like the podcast. So but uh yeah, so other
Speaker 5: than that, Yeah, we got flagged on some stuff. So
Speaker 5: I was like, all right, I kind of have to
Speaker 5: back off on the gun stuff.
Speaker 2: Break this down. What kind of gun training got you
Speaker 2: flagg because I remember so I watched some gun tube
Speaker 2: and I remember they changed their restrictions for a bit there,
Speaker 2: and it was like, if is it currently that if
Speaker 2: they see you loading your firearm on camera, then somehow
Speaker 2: that gets you flagged or some shit.
Speaker 5: Yeah that, or if if you're kind of advertising for weapons, yeah,
Speaker 5: or like hey I got this on sale, da da
Speaker 5: da da da, I just bought this over at a
Speaker 5: silence or cod got the suppressor and then yeah, they
Speaker 5: basically just flagged it, took it off. Or we made
Speaker 5: a video one time where where freaking COVID was going
Speaker 5: on and we're at the shooting reins. We're like, screwed
Speaker 5: these masks and we just started unloading and they're like
Speaker 5: you can't.
Speaker 2: Be fucking dude. Yeah, yeah, no, doubt crazy.
Speaker 4: And you know, you know quite a few other people
Speaker 4: you know, like Sam Tripoli and like all of them, right,
Speaker 4: like you do stuff with them all the time. M Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's awesome. Yeah, and so that you had like your
Speaker 4: own paranormal encounters. I saw on your your what do
Speaker 4: you call it your Instagram page?
Speaker 3: Sorry, yes, ma'am. Yeah we have Yeah, we have cheeso.
Speaker 3: Where do you guys want to go with this man?
Speaker 2: All wherever? I got questions. You want to talk about guns,
Speaker 2: but I got questions about your I got questions about
Speaker 2: all of it, bro, I mean, do you.
Speaker 4: Want to talk about something in particular? You know we
Speaker 4: have the world is on fire pretty much, so you
Speaker 4: know your poison book, Let's go for it. Pick your
Speaker 4: poison right now. I mean we got bombs happening, we
Speaker 4: got going on, we got aliens going on, we got
Speaker 4: people dead. You know, we got a lot to talk
Speaker 4: about in this in the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 3: So yeah, like yeah, but I definitely do want to
Speaker 3: give a shout out to my boy Hunter. He's actually
Speaker 3: part of like our cw ops team. He's actually marine,
Speaker 3: so he's getting shipped over right now.
Speaker 2: Oh you speak?
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, so exactly duty right now.
Speaker 2: And I are both Marine vets, so good nice, good.
Speaker 3: Ship, cheers guys. Service Uh. I was actually an L
Speaker 3: e O Law enforcement officer for about ten years. Where
Speaker 3: did that did swat?
Speaker 5: I was over in Colorado or for the state of Colorado,
Speaker 5: Colorao Springs, plublo, stuff like that in that.
Speaker 4: Area that's Colorado Springs for a bit. Oh yeah, we're
Speaker 4: at uh it was. It was like about fifteen minutes
Speaker 4: away from the base. I'm terrible, Okay, I look at it. It
Speaker 4: was a long time ago.
Speaker 3: It was like the Air Force Base or Army Base
Speaker 3: Fort Carson or the Air Force Academy.
Speaker 4: It was an Army base because they had like a
Speaker 4: Starbucks outside of it. Yeah, yeah, but it was weird.
Speaker 4: Colorado Springs is a weird place to me. So like
Speaker 4: one street, like a couple streets are good and then
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you go like one street over
Speaker 4: and it's like not good. And then you go like
Speaker 4: yeah yeah. My ex husband actually did like security while
Speaker 4: we were there, and he was doing security for some
Speaker 4: apartment buildings and like a guy got like executed in
Speaker 4: the parking lot and it was like thirty minutes from
Speaker 4: the house. I'm like what the fuck. I was like,
Speaker 4: this is like every other street is like might be good,
Speaker 4: might not be good, might be good. But I'm like okay,
Speaker 4: I just we lived there for like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I think it was like six months or something, and
Speaker 4: it was, uh, it was an interesting time. It was
Speaker 4: an interesting experience, but I mean I liked it. It
Speaker 4: wasn't bad. But other than like, I had nowhere, nobody
Speaker 4: did that I knew, and I didn't know where to go.
Speaker 4: So I literally went to the gym, I worked with
Speaker 4: the Starbucks, and then I went to the house. So
Speaker 4: that was my vibe. What year were you there twenty twelve? No, yeah,
Speaker 4: twenty thirteen.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yeah, okay, yeah, okay, yeah, you're there when
Speaker 3: I was there. Yeah. I didn't move to Tennessee until
Speaker 3: about twenty fifteen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was there just for a short time. So
Speaker 4: it was one of those scenes that we were transitioning
Speaker 4: out of the Marine Corps and we it's a long conversation,
Speaker 4: but we ended up there for a bit and then
Speaker 4: we decided to I think we moved to Oregon. Maybe no,
Speaker 4: we moved. We moved a lot, like in a a
Speaker 4: matter of like nine years, we moved like twelve times.
Speaker 4: So gotcha all across the country, all over the place.
Speaker 4: So I've lived in a lot of different places.
Speaker 3: I know, man, So what was your guyss? Both of y'all?
Speaker 3: What was you guys?
Speaker 2: Ms? Raven was a was a calm dog who got
Speaker 2: multiple deployments under a belt, mean, while I was a
Speaker 2: grunt that was stationed in d C for all four
Speaker 2: years because that's how.
Speaker 4: He's a pretty marine.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, you got the you got the nice job,
Speaker 3: right I was.
Speaker 2: I sure didn't ask for it, but you know, it'd
Speaker 2: be like that sometimes. But uh, oh my god, it
Speaker 2: was actually like verbatim voluntold. But okay, so you were
Speaker 2: a state trooper in Colorado you said yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: and then you moved to Tennessee. I gotta tell you,
Speaker 2: just from my own personal I know I'm a bit biased,
Speaker 2: but I would rather live in Tennessee over Colorado.
Speaker 3: Any day of the week.
Speaker 2: Is that because of the people that live there? I know,
Speaker 2: like Colorado has become like a libtard haven and all that.
Speaker 2: Not even that, just because I feel like the overall
Speaker 2: culture in Tennessee is way more inviting than Colorado.
Speaker 3: I could be wrong, I agree, man.
Speaker 5: It is not only that you have like factions right
Speaker 5: in certain sections like you go up like way Way,
Speaker 5: North Boulder.
Speaker 3: And all that it's a bunch of hippies and stuff.
Speaker 5: You make it way down south towards blubblo, like a
Speaker 5: lot of like Mexican gangs, Italian gangs.
Speaker 3: Stuff like that. And then Colorado Spring's part of my language.
Speaker 3: It just like turned to shit. We just basically went
Speaker 3: there last year to go see my family, and then
Speaker 3: ever since they just you know, legalize all this stuff.
Speaker 3: It's just all the riff raft from California just move
Speaker 3: there and just everything's just turned to shit. Dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny how the riff raft from California want
Speaker 2: to take up you know, move to different places and
Speaker 2: then make that place just like California, which they lived. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Never understood that because they did the same thing to
Speaker 4: Oregon too, to be honest. So like when I was
Speaker 4: growing up, you know, it was less populated. Obviously, people
Speaker 4: will move and kids and all this stuff. But we
Speaker 4: started having a lot of rich people by land and
Speaker 4: properties in Oregon. Then we had a lot more people
Speaker 4: start moving to Oregon and then a lot of things changed,
Speaker 4: and that was once Californians started coming. It's when a
Speaker 4: lot of things started to shift. So they kind of
Speaker 4: just like spread like disease. But what's funny is a
Speaker 4: bunch of my family and actually is born and raised
Speaker 4: in California, and a lot of my friends live in California.
Speaker 4: My family, some of my family is originally from Texas
Speaker 4: that moved out to California and they've all pretty much
Speaker 4: been there for decades. So there is really good parts
Speaker 4: of California. I love certain parts I go. I used
Speaker 4: to go all the time, especially when I was in
Speaker 4: the military. I would take every leave I could and
Speaker 4: go to California. There's a lot of places I enjoy.
Speaker 4: There is a lot of places I don't enjoy. It's
Speaker 4: a very interesting mixing pot of a place. But the
Speaker 4: people that want to leave for reasons of like fuck California,
Speaker 4: but then go and try to make another state just
Speaker 4: like California. I just don't understand that if you're moving
Speaker 4: somewhere that you want to be different, why not just
Speaker 4: let it be different. But that's just me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I agree. Yeah, same thing like with
Speaker 3: my wife.
Speaker 5: She's actually from California, like the LA area, and all
Speaker 5: her family moved out to Colorado and that's how I
Speaker 5: met her, and then and then when we went back
Speaker 5: it's like to me, like to me, like weather wise,
Speaker 5: like just everything like agricultural, all that stuff is beautiful.
Speaker 3: It's awesome. You get it, like you said, you get
Speaker 3: a whole multipot of things. But you know, when it
Speaker 3: comes to the government and the state and all that,
Speaker 3: it's like, ah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it was really shady in a lot of
Speaker 4: parts when I lived there too, Like already you could
Speaker 4: see it starting to turn. It was like it was
Speaker 4: creeping in from all sides kind of the thing. And
Speaker 4: it was definitely starting to turn more baton rouge New
Speaker 4: Orleans vibes. I guess you could.
Speaker 2: Say it was.
Speaker 4: It was definitely like, yeah, it was. It was getting
Speaker 4: kind of sure, yeah, it was getting kind of you know, well,
Speaker 4: I mean, legalizing so many types of drugs that adds
Speaker 4: in a lot too, because a lot of people come
Speaker 4: into play that you know, bring a lot of stuff
Speaker 4: with them. So it was it was an interesting time.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's been a lot of states that I've
Speaker 4: been to. I mean, I've lived in North Carolina for
Speaker 4: a while, and I will say, like a lot of
Speaker 4: people love North Carolina, I do not. I am not
Speaker 4: a fan of North Carolina and South Carolina. Is super pretty,
Speaker 4: but it depends on the section real shit.
Speaker 2: North Carolina has its areas that are like, bro, why
Speaker 2: do you all live here? And then they also have
Speaker 2: other areas it's like, oh my god, why would you
Speaker 2: live anywhere else? It's it is Appalachia in totality has
Speaker 2: their spots where it's like complete dog shit or like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is a postcard.
Speaker 4: It'd be like, yeah, it's the ticks, man, be really honest,
Speaker 4: it's the ticks and cockroaches. You lost me. The states
Speaker 4: dead to me, Like you know what, the state is
Speaker 4: entirely dead to me because of that. So I lived.
Speaker 5: You figured you'd freaking, uh, you know, be shooting at
Speaker 5: camel spiders. You know, I figured camels.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, camel spiders and me. So I have
Speaker 4: like a I'm definitely afraid of spiders. And let me
Speaker 4: tell you those they don't die. They don't die. You're evil.
Speaker 4: You're making my butt clinch just thinking about them, like
Speaker 4: they even Oh, you have no idea. You try to
Speaker 4: piss in a box with a bag and then you
Speaker 4: see something tracking out of the corner of your eye
Speaker 4: and you're like, don't be it, don't don't be what
Speaker 4: I think you are. They're huge, they're dinormous, they're terrifying.
Speaker 4: They're more in Iraq than anywhere else. So I will
Speaker 4: say that they're not really probably like they're not not
Speaker 4: really all over the place in Afghanistan, more or less
Speaker 4: in Iraq. My exit actually lived in Iraq for so
Speaker 4: long because he went and did like six tours pretty
Speaker 4: much back to back. He would show us like he
Speaker 4: takes videos and pictures and stuff all the time of
Speaker 4: camel spiders and like they would try to different ways
Speaker 4: to kill him. He's like, these things are evil. I'm like, dude, no, nope,
Speaker 4: I'm done.
Speaker 2: I could deal with them.
Speaker 3: It's the snakes.
Speaker 2: The snakes are the thing for me that I can't
Speaker 2: fuck with.
Speaker 4: I don't think I ever saw a single snake in Afghanistan.
Speaker 4: Good maybe, I mean they probably were honestly around some
Speaker 4: like the water areas, but I never saw any. But
Speaker 4: I don't really care about those. But like North Carolina though,
Speaker 4: when I lived there, oh god, the cockroaches, the cockroaches
Speaker 4: and the amount of ticks. Like, so I always put
Speaker 4: my I'd wear double layers and i'd put my clothes
Speaker 4: in my boots and I would make sure. I even
Speaker 4: wore socks over it and like double layered that. At
Speaker 4: one point I had ticks crawling all over my legs
Speaker 4: while we were out fishing, and I was like, no,
Speaker 4: this place can just burn at this point.
Speaker 2: Outside of your boots with bugs. I did.
Speaker 4: I did though, like I doubs might. But I also
Speaker 4: have a negative blood and I'm convinced. Oh they My
Speaker 4: ex was standing next to me, not a single take
Speaker 4: on him, not one. I was covered in them. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: well this is just not the place for me. Ever
Speaker 4: again that I live there for a bit and I
Speaker 4: was like, no, I would come home and there as
Speaker 4: giant cockroaches, which I am probably the world's biggest pansy
Speaker 4: when it comes to cockroaches.
Speaker 2: That that's a real thing. I'm not sure if it's
Speaker 2: the blood of the pheromones or what, but there is
Speaker 2: a chemical biological thing like being from here in Louisiana. Right.
Speaker 2: So mosquitoes they're a bitch. They're the state bird.
Speaker 4: No, no, so they're like pterodactyls.
Speaker 2: But growing up I almost never got bit maybe one
Speaker 2: or two bites where I'd be like outside at night
Speaker 2: or something like that. But that'd be about it, and
Speaker 2: I'd see somebody all so next to me getting lit
Speaker 2: the fuck up. It's like a scyn thing. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's a blood or a pheromone or some
Speaker 2: sort of chemical biolin.
Speaker 4: It's something. It because like out of all of us,
Speaker 4: like one of my children and me get just tore up.
Speaker 4: We're both negative blood types. The positive blood types that
Speaker 4: are in my house do not get tore up at all,
Speaker 4: like not even a single bite. I don't even think
Speaker 4: one of them has ever had a bite ever. Meanwhile,
Speaker 4: the two of us are getting like litt and you
Speaker 4: know what, why do they always go for your butt cheeks?
Speaker 4: I want to know that. Why why is it always
Speaker 4: a thing? And it's not just me, it's like always
Speaker 4: a thing with these damn giant pterodactyl of freaking mosquitoes.
Speaker 4: I hate the mosquitoes. But now we have bats in
Speaker 4: the neighborhoods. So apparently people are finally putting up bath
Speaker 4: houses because they're protected when she put up the bath houses,
Speaker 4: and like you can go through all this stuff, and
Speaker 4: so I'm like, bring the bats as long as they're
Speaker 4: not like, ohc's bats with all the nasty, you know, diseases.
Speaker 4: But at least the bats will eat all the mosquitos.
Speaker 4: They eat up to like ten thousand mosquitos a night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they's some animals.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, I got random weird facts about bats. I
Speaker 4: really want to buy house.
Speaker 2: So you're currently living in Tennessee about what area?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I live about thirty minutes away from Nashville down
Speaker 3: south and marfas Bro.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, hell yeah nice.
Speaker 4: That's where my best friend's family's from.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 2: So definitely a culture shock from Colorado. But also I
Speaker 2: would suspect a very welcome one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. Man. Yeah. Yeah. During that time,
Speaker 3: it was just like around twenty fourteen twenty fifteen, it
Speaker 3: was just getting really bad and like a lot of
Speaker 3: the guys like we were locking up. I was seeing
Speaker 3: him parole a lot in the same city I was
Speaker 3: living in, and like it was just getting bad and
Speaker 3: like basically like a lot of like the Gang of
Speaker 3: Violence and the Mexican mafia freaking Ortennos of Serenos MS thirteen,
Speaker 3: Like it was just people just getting caught in the crossfire.
Speaker 5: And I was like, you know what, this is just
Speaker 5: this is getting too bad. Not only that it was
Speaker 5: actually bring apart my marriage. So my wife and I
Speaker 5: were like, you know, let's just pack up, let's just
Speaker 5: go somewhere totally different, and like half of her family
Speaker 5: lived over here in the South, so I was like,
Speaker 5: you know what this place actually like want to like.
Speaker 3: Raise my kids, So let's go. And then we went here.
Speaker 3: It was a big culture shock, dude, like I literally
Speaker 3: had because everything moved here is just slow. Everyone goes
Speaker 3: at their own pace. Any rush rush rush rush rush,
Speaker 3: you know. And I literally had like two panic attacks
Speaker 3: when I first moved here because I'm like expecting something
Speaker 3: to happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so slow.
Speaker 3: Yeah. One of the guys goes, hey, man, you got
Speaker 3: just ease. I don't just calm down, all right, I
Speaker 3: guess sir, dude.
Speaker 2: It fucked me up to just a culture shock. So
Speaker 2: I grew up in Louisiana, so like the Southern mentality
Speaker 2: was always a part of it. Cut to join the
Speaker 2: Marine Corps, four years of just go go go, do
Speaker 2: doo doo, even if a trip and wait, like we
Speaker 2: have things we have to get done right now. All right, cool,
Speaker 2: got you My mind has been acclimatized. Cut to I
Speaker 2: get out, I come home. I start working in the
Speaker 2: construction and and uh, you know, just starting out, just
Speaker 2: a lower level helper or whatever. Boss Man comes out
Speaker 2: and says, all right, we need this done. This done,
Speaker 2: this done, got you. I take the fuck off. Now.
Speaker 2: I'm not running by any means. I'm just I'm going
Speaker 2: at what I think is a relaxed pace. And I
Speaker 2: get halfway down the field and I'm doing these things.
Speaker 2: I look around. I am the only one out here,
Speaker 2: like I am alone. There's a crew of five of us.
Speaker 2: I am the only fucking guy that's doing anything. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, uh okay. So I start walking back. I'm thinking, like, fuck,
Speaker 2: maybe I left before all the instructions were given or something.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I miss something. I come back. The other
Speaker 2: four dudes are just leaving the smoke pit and they're
Speaker 2: just now starting to fucking They're not walking. They are
Speaker 2: mosying their asses to where we're supposed to go. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, are we good? They're like, yeah, bro,
Speaker 2: what's wrong? I'm like, did did he say something else?
Speaker 2: We had to do something? I'm like, yeah, what are
Speaker 2: you good? And I'm like, bro, we have things we
Speaker 2: have to do. He's like, look here, bro, I'm just
Speaker 2: giving you this information. We get paid by the hour,
Speaker 2: not by the job. You need you need to take
Speaker 2: about seventy percent off the top, right, And I'm like
Speaker 2: seventy He's like, no, a hard, hard, seventy percent off
Speaker 2: the top, and let's let's bring it all down. We're
Speaker 2: gonna be here. And if it doesn't get done today,
Speaker 2: guess what is gonna get done tomorrow? Tomorrow, then I
Speaker 2: bet it'll be here on Wednesday. And I'm just like,
Speaker 2: I can't my brain's short circuited. I couldn't compute this.
Speaker 2: But that is the Southern mentality, like big dog, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be fine, it's gonna be there.
Speaker 4: You now are like this, you have you've adapted back
Speaker 4: in to the Southern ways. Yeah, And it drives me
Speaker 4: absolutely bat shit because I'm like, I will never not
Speaker 4: be one thousand percent wide open at all times, like,
Speaker 4: but they can't see the whole slow, and people when
Speaker 4: they're bagging my groceries slow, I am like losing my
Speaker 4: actual collective mind inside.
Speaker 2: I have road rage. I do not have ridge.
Speaker 4: I do not have road rage. I have very good
Speaker 4: West Coast California driving within the stop going on. I
Speaker 4: am a. I am definitely uh I'm at home when
Speaker 4: I'm driving in California kind of style.
Speaker 2: So what I will say, she is one of the
Speaker 2: best drivers I've ever seen. Real ship man, woman doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: She is a phenomenal driver. That that being said, Man,
Speaker 2: does she have road rage?
Speaker 4: I do not have road rage. I'm a very positive,
Speaker 4: happy person.
Speaker 3: You know, while I'm gonna kill you with a smile
Speaker 3: on her face.
Speaker 4: I'm not one of those honkers, Like I can't do that.
Speaker 4: Like unless you absolutely like you're gonna hit me, then
Speaker 4: I'll honk it you. But like if.
Speaker 2: You're hitting the hole, yeah, I'm assuming that, like we're
Speaker 2: about to throw hands. If you're honking at me, then like.
Speaker 4: I'm not a honker like you know, doing that dumb
Speaker 4: ship where like you know, you're aggressively on someone's ass
Speaker 4: the whole time, Like no, no, but I will like
Speaker 4: win and get around you.
Speaker 2: But you're aggressive. But everything's a fucking contest, and she's
Speaker 2: gonna win.
Speaker 4: Everything is everything. I'm very competitive, p stop. I'm extremely
Speaker 4: competitive person. So you know, yeah, I may or may
Speaker 4: not have a history and uh, you know drags and
Speaker 4: drag racing and stuff like that, but like it's fine.
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's tough being being a parent and
Speaker 4: then like having to give up stuff. It's like, oh,
Speaker 4: all right, I hear that one of my buddies is
Speaker 4: actually a professional racer still, Like he races uh street
Speaker 4: bikes and like it's so cool. I like live vicariously
Speaker 4: through his body cam and I'm like i always ride him.
Speaker 4: I'm like it's so awesome. I can feel the wind
Speaker 4: just on my face. But I'm not there, damn.
Speaker 2: So when you moved to Tennessee, did you try going
Speaker 2: back into law enforcement or you decided to break the
Speaker 2: mold and go a different direction.
Speaker 3: Yeah? I did at first, and it seemed like God
Speaker 3: was kind of closing those doors. So I applied over
Speaker 3: at the Nashville Metro got it and went through the
Speaker 3: whole process the try to transfer everything I've had in
Speaker 3: call rad over to there. But like there, I guess
Speaker 3: like their training program is a little different. Instead of
Speaker 3: state local, it's actually international, so they have they have
Speaker 3: a lot of people from LAPD, New York, Chicago, like
Speaker 3: the big big metro areas come and train there. So
Speaker 3: I had starting square one. Yeah, Nashville couldn't believe that
Speaker 3: I was like, what Nashville. I figured, like I figured
Speaker 3: like Memphis or something like that, right or what ever?
Speaker 3: But no, yeah, I was like okay, So so a
Speaker 3: lot of the stuff I had over there kind of
Speaker 3: like just went act. So They're like, look, you're gonna
Speaker 3: do this, You're gonna have to do it over again.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, okay, cool whatever, let's just do it.
Speaker 3: So I went to the whole process, did the whole
Speaker 3: physical past, that mental past, that testing, did all that,
Speaker 3: and then after that I went to I guess I
Speaker 3: call like the oral wars is where you talked to
Speaker 3: like basically a lieutenant and two chiefs, they ask you questions.
Speaker 3: Did that, and then I needed to make as much
Speaker 3: if not more, what I was making in Colorado. Well
Speaker 3: I found out why they call Tennessee the volunteer state.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so the freaking pay. I was like, I cannot
Speaker 5: survive on this.
Speaker 3: Ain't no way, dude.
Speaker 2: Know, the cause of the living should be cheaper in
Speaker 2: Tennessee than it is in Colorado.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it depends on where you're at, that's so. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So the more middle Tennessee area you're at, like close
Speaker 3: to Nashville, and then if you're close to, like Gatlinburg,
Speaker 3: like these areas that have a lot of like fluctuation
Speaker 3: of people coming in way expensive, too damn expensive. Well
Speaker 3: we didn't know that. So but even though it's expensive,
Speaker 3: they don't pay like they should in my opinion, they don't.
Speaker 3: And then yeah, so I was like, well I'm out
Speaker 3: on that. I'm not going to do it. And then
Speaker 3: I applied for the Sheriff's department, got that job. Same thing.
Speaker 3: Pay wasn't good enough. I was like, I can't. I
Speaker 3: got to have like another job after this. So I
Speaker 3: was like, ain't no way, ain't no way. So I
Speaker 3: went back to my old trade, which was welding. So
Speaker 3: I did a lot of that right out of high school,
Speaker 3: so like sheet metal stuff like that. So I applied
Speaker 3: over at the Nissan manufacturing over there in Smyrna. Got
Speaker 3: it and uh yeah, so they wanted me to be
Speaker 3: like a quality control welder and stuff like that. So
Speaker 3: I'm basically just and the pay was like double what
Speaker 3: Metro was paying. So I was like, sweet, I'll just
Speaker 3: go back to this and you know that way, I'm
Speaker 3: at home and during that time, all the riots and
Speaker 3: stuff were kicking off, so I was like, oh, it's
Speaker 3: a good time. I freaking left.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I got out in twenty fourteen, and my
Speaker 2: thought was to go be a city cop for Baton Rouge, right,
Speaker 2: and maybe shares. We'll see how it goes spicy right there.
Speaker 2: It wasn't at the time, right, So twenty fourteen, it
Speaker 2: wasn't spicy whatsoever. Yeah, you had your hoods areas, and
Speaker 2: you had your you know, subdivision areas, your suburbs and stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and sure like any other big city, right, And it
Speaker 2: was fine. I have some family members that are a
Speaker 2: part of that department. So cool. And keep in mind,
Speaker 2: as soon as I got out of the Marine Corps,
Speaker 2: I started working construction as just like I said, a
Speaker 2: lower level helper. I was making like forty K a year,
Speaker 2: and that was base level. Basically, if you have a
Speaker 2: pulse and campassive piss test, we could start you out there. Nope, cool,
Speaker 2: because Louisiana has a ton of ore refineries and chemical plants.
Speaker 2: We have industry here, like you don't have to look
Speaker 2: forward to find at least some sort of job.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 2: So I go through I do the you know, the
Speaker 2: state what's it called, not the State service test whatever,
Speaker 2: it is and the polygraph and all this shit. I
Speaker 2: never asked what cops made. Never once in my life
Speaker 2: did ask what they made. Because you see cops driving
Speaker 2: decent trucks, living in decent houses. They're not they're not
Speaker 2: killing it, but they're also not poor either. You would
Speaker 2: assume they're doing pretty okay for themselves. They don't tell
Speaker 2: you that they're working so much fucking overtime that they
Speaker 2: don't live in that house that they're buying. And so
Speaker 2: I finally, I'm like two weeks away from the academy
Speaker 2: picking up. I'm talking to this person that's doing my
Speaker 2: paperwork and I'm like, hey, so real quick, what's the
Speaker 2: starting pay. Oh, so we're gonna start you out at
Speaker 2: thirty two to five. I'm like, thirty two fifty an hour. Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm your fucking guy. Let's go. She's like, oh no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: thirty two to five a year. And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: oh no, I made a mistake. Well, we have opportunities
Speaker 2: for overtime and this and this. I'm like yeah. And
Speaker 2: then at the same time, it seemed like it was
Speaker 2: a very big uh. It was very clique, very much
Speaker 2: like the military, like you would think that it's a
Speaker 2: meritocracy and you'll get promoted based off of how good
Speaker 2: you do your job. In reality, it's all about who's
Speaker 2: dick you suck, whose boy you never say you drink
Speaker 2: with after work, and.
Speaker 3: It's like who you know or who you blow.
Speaker 2: I'm exactly, and I'm very bad at being someone's boy.
Speaker 2: I I'm I. And for the guys that can do that,
Speaker 2: then like great. It's not even like I'm trying to
Speaker 2: like take a stand, but it's I'm just really bad
Speaker 2: at it, honestly, So fine, cool. So I decided to
Speaker 2: just go construction and go use my gi he'll go
Speaker 2: to college and whatever else. But yeah, I And this
Speaker 2: was before the cop hunting started. This is before out
Speaker 2: in Sterling, this is before the BLM movement really took off.
Speaker 2: Cut to twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, all that shit.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I made a really good decision to not.
Speaker 4: Do that shit, especially as I wanted to do. Was
Speaker 4: the wildlife and fisheries yo game war actually pay, they
Speaker 4: actually pay quite well. I actually applied and looked into
Speaker 4: it and all this stuff. But because I because my
Speaker 4: ex he was he traveled for work. So I was
Speaker 4: raising kids and stuff, and so it just didn't work out.
Speaker 4: I couldn't dedicate the time to you know, go take
Speaker 4: the test and all the things because like the physical tests,
Speaker 4: like you had to do it over course of a
Speaker 4: certain time. You had to do Petea and all this stuff.
Speaker 4: And I was like, there's just no way I could
Speaker 4: do it. Ironically, though, I've worked at some weird jobs
Speaker 4: in between, just to you know, help support where I could.
Speaker 4: That worked with being a parent because that was, you know,
Speaker 4: my primary goal. But I worked at a barn, and
Speaker 4: like we're talking about fast paced and stuff like that, Ironically,
Speaker 4: the barn was the most fast paced, intense job ever
Speaker 4: because like we had to get I had to get
Speaker 4: thirty six stalls cleaned, and how to help with all
Speaker 4: the horses and all this stuff, and like I only
Speaker 4: had from nine o'clock to two o'clock every day to
Speaker 4: do this.
Speaker 3: That'sh damn good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But that's the thing though, when it comes to
Speaker 2: farm hand work, right, some of it, Yeah, there's there's
Speaker 2: like a balance between the slow hand or the cool
Speaker 2: hand and Luke kind of vibele like, look it'll be
Speaker 2: there tomorrow, and other stuff. Where it's like no, no, no,
Speaker 2: they have to get fed and water today, like this
Speaker 2: has to get done now kind of thing. So it's
Speaker 2: like you're in that groove, right.
Speaker 4: I get well, all the stalls have to be cleaned
Speaker 4: every day, The horses have to be fed twice a day.
Speaker 4: They have to be worked every single day. They have
Speaker 4: to be cleaned every day. Yeah, so it's every single day.
Speaker 4: And then like when they're getting showed when they come
Speaker 4: in from Tennessee, they get showed like once a month.
Speaker 4: And then we had like some that were getting impregnated.
Speaker 4: Like I didn't even know how much sperm got costs
Speaker 4: to ship in. It was like ten thousand dollars of
Speaker 4: vile and then it costs another five thousand to ship in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was like, what that's the gloss the
Speaker 2: handgun manufacturer that's their main source of income.
Speaker 4: Is horse It's crazy how expensive.
Speaker 2: You didn't know about this.
Speaker 4: I didn't know it's so expensive to do all this.
Speaker 4: And then the steeds. It depends on which stalling it is,
Speaker 4: and they have like the special sort ofs and like
Speaker 4: depends on which ones you get. Some of it can
Speaker 4: be up to upwards of one hundred and fifty k
Speaker 4: for like the tube of it to come in.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and then you have to take it.
Speaker 4: The doctors come in, they have to do some you know,
Speaker 4: they have to do this whole fancy thing. And it
Speaker 4: was I was like, oh okay, yeah, no, it was weird.
Speaker 4: It was a weird thing.
Speaker 2: Old granddaddy, patriarch Glock, he decided there was two things
Speaker 2: in this world that he genuinely cared about, plastic framed, affordable,
Speaker 2: reliable handguns and thoroughbred horse semen, and he decided to
Speaker 2: throw all of his weight into both of those industries.
Speaker 2: You can go on the Glock website and they brow
Speaker 2: when I'm talking like we're talking fifteen thousand dollars per
Speaker 2: specimen of horse com and that's oh.
Speaker 4: No, it's a very lucrative business. That's why they are
Speaker 4: very specific on the lineage and like who you breed with,
Speaker 4: who you can even get to get it. That was
Speaker 4: I learned a lot of interesting things about the equestrian
Speaker 4: world and the how they oh horse people are crazy,
Speaker 4: I love them to death.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 5: My Yellowstone. Well they were doing that sales of the
Speaker 5: horses and stuff. Is it pretty close to that, you guys,
Speaker 5: watched a little bit of that.
Speaker 4: Are you talking about where I worked? I worked down
Speaker 4: here in the South.
Speaker 3: No, I know that. I'm just saying, like the whole
Speaker 3: like horse business, like it's.
Speaker 4: Globally, it's a global business. Yeah. So some of the
Speaker 4: Saudi Arabian horses, like they trade depending on depending on
Speaker 4: what type of horse you're breeding. That's depending on the lineage,
Speaker 4: how far back it goes, how many they want all
Speaker 4: of this stuff, like, oh, oh, they get expensive. So
Speaker 4: I worked with the Arabians and so they're considered hot bloods.
Speaker 4: They're very temperamental, they're very scared of everything, emotional, giant babies,
Speaker 4: to be honest with you, and so a lot of
Speaker 4: people like they are very expensive to care for. They
Speaker 4: need special stuff all the time. They get specialized vitamins.
Speaker 4: So like when I would do the feed, everybody would
Speaker 4: have different types of vitamins and things that they needed.
Speaker 4: So I had like certain they it was it was
Speaker 4: a whole thing to feed the horses every day. And
Speaker 4: so I learned a lot of different stuff about that community,
Speaker 4: because like it, it depends on what group you're in,
Speaker 4: depends on how much like the Clydesdale's they have their
Speaker 4: own special niche and how much they cost to breed
Speaker 4: and how you know, how far back they've gone, who
Speaker 4: have they served? What's your name? Dolly Parton has a
Speaker 4: special like her horses. Oh those are like million dollar horses,
Speaker 4: Like they are specialized. They get bread specialized. Like it's
Speaker 4: a whole weird thing. But yeah, I worked as a
Speaker 4: ranch hand for a good while and stuff, and so, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not a free to hard work. It
Speaker 4: was interesting because that was a big problem we had
Speaker 4: with hiring new people, is that most of the people
Speaker 4: we hired were from here, and so they're very slow
Speaker 4: and like, you know, just taking their sweet time and listen.
Speaker 2: Okay, not all people.
Speaker 4: We have a lot of people that work real hard
Speaker 4: on the plants that are very fast and you know
Speaker 4: and whatnot.
Speaker 2: But kind of maybe some people. Yeah, but I was
Speaker 2: gonna say, hold on, what we're not gonna do is
Speaker 2: talk shit on Dolly. Okay, she can have her class
Speaker 2: on Dolly. She made the white trash Disney World aka Dollywood. Okay,
Speaker 2: we leave Dolly alone. She is a respective member of society.
Speaker 4: Well, her class. She has like a whole thing up
Speaker 4: in Branson Bronson, Branson Missouri. You ever been up there
Speaker 4: and seeing that that's actually a really cool random place
Speaker 4: to visit. Uh. I ended up in there on accident.
Speaker 4: It's a whole I was driving cross country and I
Speaker 4: was trying new routes because I've driven across the country
Speaker 4: every route you can, and I decided to go on
Speaker 4: an adventure. And man, did I end up on an adventure.
Speaker 2: As much as I can.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I ended up being I ended up there and
Speaker 4: actually stayed for a couple of days. There's a lot
Speaker 4: of cool stuff to do there, So it's one of
Speaker 4: those weird places I didn't know about. But her horses
Speaker 4: are really you know, horses are a big deal actually,
Speaker 4: Like if you're a horse person. The horse community is
Speaker 4: like a whole specialized group of people that have lots
Speaker 4: of money, like lots and lots of money. We had
Speaker 4: a lot of people that housed horses there that are
Speaker 4: high up and you know sports. We had a guy
Speaker 4: that had that was a football player. He had I
Speaker 4: think one or two horses with us. He had a
Speaker 4: total of like ten horses. I mean there's they're really fancy,
Speaker 4: you know horse things, and I'm I don't know, they
Speaker 4: just were normal horses to me. So I didn't really
Speaker 4: I didn't know. I didn't know enough about horses. I
Speaker 4: was just learning as I went, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 4: I mean sure, but they were definitely uh, temperamental creatures.
Speaker 4: They got scared of trees, bushes, weaving. Oh yeah, so
Speaker 4: like if they they know, like they're what they see
Speaker 4: every day going it go to go work. And so
Speaker 4: we actually have a we had a limit tree that
Speaker 4: we had just gotten and we were gonna plant it,
Speaker 4: and so we had stuck it outside where the barn
Speaker 4: door is open and they have to walk to the arena. Well,
Speaker 4: all of them saw this tree and like lost their minds.
Speaker 4: They would not come outside because this tree was new
Speaker 4: and it was not we were supposed to be and
Speaker 4: we're not going outside. It's like, come on, are we
Speaker 4: joking me?
Speaker 2: Like a tree?
Speaker 4: Is it an busy town horse?
Speaker 2: And it's like, no, hold on now? Is it possible
Speaker 2: that these horses saw that this tree was housing a
Speaker 2: sam squench and they decided that they want.
Speaker 4: To They didn't like mice either, and they didn't like.
Speaker 2: Apparently the same squanches live in the trees. So like,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: There was giant spiders though in that place, and I
Speaker 4: never like my whole soul. That's how I found out
Speaker 4: we have tarantulas here in Louisiana. Yep, They're horrible. They're horrible,
Speaker 4: They're massive. They burrowed these giant things and they live
Speaker 4: in the damn barn.
Speaker 3: No, thank you crap that turn it down.
Speaker 2: So you currently work as a welder? Yeah, yes, sir,
Speaker 2: Yes indeed. Okay, So cryptid hunters, when you say this,
Speaker 2: do you mean.
Speaker 4: Trying to like you hunt Sam switches right?
Speaker 2: Do you mean like hunting for evidence or do you
Speaker 2: mean like hunting the creature. I'm not judging either way.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're good man. So how it all started was,
Speaker 3: uh so, back in Colorado.
Speaker 5: I kind of got into that because my dad, he
Speaker 5: used to bring me out whenever he picked me up
Speaker 5: every other weekend. You always go backpacking and whatnot. So
Speaker 5: him and I would always hit the mountains and stay
Speaker 5: out there for a couple of days and come back
Speaker 5: and he dropped me off back home. And then that's
Speaker 5: how I grew up, as you know, like learning survival
Speaker 5: and stuff like that, and you know, how to how
Speaker 5: to live off the land and hunt and whatnot, and uh,
Speaker 5: there's been a couple of times like hearing some weird noises,
Speaker 5: He's like, there's a there's a biggie.
Speaker 3: What the hell is that. I didn't think anything of it.
Speaker 5: But then as I got older in high school, what
Speaker 5: really blew my mind was it was a whole like
Speaker 5: Patterson gimmlins Zione, right. I was a big monster freak
Speaker 5: when it came to predator aliens, you know, stuff like
Speaker 5: that sci fi stuff. And then when I learned about
Speaker 5: you know, Bigfoot and wear woes and all that, I
Speaker 5: was like, holy crap, I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna check this out.
Speaker 5: So and then digging more into it, that was when
Speaker 5: we had like the dial up internet.
Speaker 3: Looking up Bigfoot and all that.
Speaker 5: I didn't realize that there was a lot of sightings
Speaker 5: there in Colorado. So I was like, holy crap, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna go check this out. So me and one other guy,
Speaker 5: when of my buddies, Thomas, we just went out in
Speaker 5: the woods and just camped out for a couple of days,
Speaker 5: just you know, just try to find some stuff. But
Speaker 5: I kind of got invested into that and really didn't
Speaker 5: see much.
Speaker 3: And the thing that kind of that kind of to me,
Speaker 3: I kind of like broke the.
Speaker 5: Camera's back of me, kind of going full fledged into
Speaker 5: conspiracies and cryptis and stuff.
Speaker 3: Was when I was on SWAT for the for the
Speaker 3: state of Colorado. We had to we teamed up with
Speaker 3: the doc U two federally two alphabet agencies and stuff
Speaker 3: like that because a certain convict escaped in Colorado out
Speaker 3: of sterling, and of course they freaking found his ass,
Speaker 3: but he was in the middle of the Rocky Mountain area,
Speaker 3: so we pinched him in. We're walking up the mountain
Speaker 3: and we were tracking this dude and as we're tracking
Speaker 3: this guy, we heard these things on the left and
Speaker 3: right of us walking with us. We thought it was dear.
Speaker 3: It wasn't. It sounded very, very very like bipedal, but
Speaker 3: they were out of range. We really couldn't see anything.
Speaker 3: But we were just talking to each other on comms like, hey,
Speaker 3: we're basically we're basically running like a diamond formation, right.
Speaker 5: You know, we got your point man, besides you, you
Speaker 5: guysn't know what's up. And we've got our freaking medic
Speaker 5: in the middle. And then we got the guy in
Speaker 5: front who's a tracker. So we're basically just lays as
Speaker 5: like weapons and whatnot, so we know what this guy was.
Speaker 5: We're tracking up the mountain and this was running around
Speaker 5: like night.
Speaker 3: Time, so we're hearing these things walk up with us,
Speaker 3: and uh my team leader Al Gain was like, hey,
Speaker 3: you guys hearing that and I was like, yeah, we're
Speaker 3: hearing something. He's like, okay, on three, we're just gonna stop,
Speaker 3: and he counted down three to two to one, and
Speaker 3: then we stopped. And then on the left side and
Speaker 3: the right side of us, we heard those two things
Speaker 3: take extra two steps and then they stopped. So we
Speaker 3: were freaking calling it in like, hey, think we have
Speaker 3: other things out here with us, can you guys clarify?
Speaker 3: So they couldn't see anything.
Speaker 5: We had a helicopter up they found this dude, but
Speaker 5: they didn't see anything on the ground, so.
Speaker 3: We're like, what the freak is going on? Yeah, anyways,
Speaker 3: we finally found the guy, brought him back down. He
Speaker 3: was freaking out, saying he was hearing all kinds of
Speaker 3: weird noises and whatnot, Like, all right, dude, whatever, went
Speaker 3: back to the precinct, did my report, kicked it out,
Speaker 3: and then my captain at the time kicked my report
Speaker 3: back to me and he's like, hey, guys, I need
Speaker 3: you guys to take this part out, which part where
Speaker 3: you guys heard strange noises on the right and left
Speaker 3: to you guys and just you guys need to take
Speaker 3: that out. Well you want us to write who, what, when, where,
Speaker 3: and why and be very descriptive as possible in cases
Speaker 3: goes to.
Speaker 5: Court, right, He's like, yeah, I need you to take
Speaker 5: this out though, all right, he was very very like
Speaker 5: he was getting pissed, like I need you to freaking
Speaker 5: take this out, this this little section out, and like
Speaker 5: reward it, all right?
Speaker 3: Did that?
Speaker 5: Kicked it back to him. The problem with him was
Speaker 5: that he wouldn't really tell me what to fix. He
Speaker 5: wouldn't tell any of us what to fix. He would
Speaker 5: just say, hey, you need to take.
Speaker 3: This out and reward it. I kicked it back to
Speaker 3: him like five times and he's like, oh, fuck it,
Speaker 3: I'll just do it. So then he rewarded it to where.
Speaker 5: Basically he kind of chopped the whole thing out and
Speaker 5: he reworded to how it flowed in together the report.
Speaker 5: That way, you can't you couldn't tell there wasn't a
Speaker 5: missing chunk, right, So after that I was like, that's weird.
Speaker 5: So me and my buddies were talking about like the
Speaker 5: next day.
Speaker 3: Over coffee, and then my buddy Algain was like, Hey,
Speaker 3: I was doing some digging. There's a lot of freaking
Speaker 3: bigfoot sightings around here up in Colorado Stairlian area. What
Speaker 3: mor san is Abell stuff like that. So we're like, okay, huh,
Speaker 3: that's weird. So I was like, oh, I knew it.
Speaker 3: I knew there's some bigfoots around here. So I just
Speaker 3: started going out in the mountains just you know, just
Speaker 3: trying to see if I can have an encounter. And
Speaker 3: then did that for a couple of years, and then
Speaker 3: when I moved over here in twenty fifteen, my wife
Speaker 3: and kids moved here about like a couple of like
Speaker 3: a month before I did. She started going to this
Speaker 3: church and one of the guys at the head of
Speaker 3: security became friends with her, and his wife became friends
Speaker 3: with her two and when I finally moved down, she's like, Hey,
Speaker 3: I think I really think you're gonna like this place.
Speaker 3: Let's just you know, just dive into it. And one
Speaker 3: of the guys on the head of security, I told
Speaker 3: him about you, So if you want to jump into ministry,
Speaker 3: you can actually jump into that. And I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker 5: And then as weeks go on and me serving and
Speaker 5: stuff like that, he was wearing a bigfoot hat and
Speaker 5: I was like, hey, Cam, so what do you know
Speaker 5: about Bigfoot?
Speaker 3: And he's like, let me tell you. Yes. So he
Speaker 3: started telling me his experiences and stuff and what he does.
Speaker 3: He ran like a separate team that goes and investigates
Speaker 3: hot spots and missing people. Cool. So he's like, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm going on a.
Speaker 5: How do you put it, I'm going on a basically
Speaker 5: on like a sponsored big Foot trip. So you want
Speaker 5: to go.
Speaker 3: He's like, you can pick a couple of dudes. You
Speaker 3: guys can run security, make sure nobody dies, and we
Speaker 3: just go investigate these areas. Hell, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Pretty easy standard to achieve. Hey, we're going out in
Speaker 2: the woods. It make sure nobody dies.
Speaker 4: Like that's comforting.
Speaker 3: Roger that yeah. Anyways, yes, So we went and this
Speaker 3: is where I started to gather all the guys are
Speaker 3: on my team now and so anyways, basically in a nutshell,
Speaker 3: we went out to Kentucky to where Mammoth Cave National Park.
Speaker 3: Here there was a like a lot of missing people
Speaker 3: going on there. So that's where we went. And when
Speaker 3: we're there on the second night we're out. We're out
Speaker 3: in about.
Speaker 5: Probably two o'clock in the morning going to this area
Speaker 5: to where there was like the certain hikers missing. So
Speaker 5: as we're meanding our way up there with the vehicles,
Speaker 5: we ran across this suv.
Speaker 3: With the doors open. What spotted, what what made us
Speaker 3: stop was we saw a baby carriage, a baby you
Speaker 3: know carriage outside on the ground with a blanket, and
Speaker 3: we stopped the vehicle, got out, you know, set a perimeter,
Speaker 3: did a carry check, check the freaking vehicle, make sure
Speaker 3: there was nobody in there. Thank god, there wasn't a
Speaker 3: baby on the ground and everything was cool. We're like,
Speaker 3: what the hell's going on? This is weird out in
Speaker 3: the middle of nowhere. So my buddy Camra had a
Speaker 3: sat phone. He's calling it in. He calls the park
Speaker 3: ranger as well. The problem is the place we were
Speaker 3: at we had to take a vehicle like ferry. We
Speaker 3: had a load of.
Speaker 5: Vehicles on ferry and go across this river on this
Speaker 5: mountain island right that's there. So it closes at seven
Speaker 5: o'clock at night and it doesn't open till seven in
Speaker 5: the morning, so you're on your own for twelve hours
Speaker 5: if something happens.
Speaker 3: So the park rangers stated like, hey, we're not going
Speaker 3: to get there until, you know, till it opens up.
Speaker 3: So does everybody okay, Like, yeah, we're good.
Speaker 5: We just we just totally just see this freaking vehicle
Speaker 5: on the road and it's just it's just looking fishy.
Speaker 3: So he took pictures the license plates, send it to them.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, well, just you know, we'll freaking come
Speaker 3: see you guys in the morning, all right, cool. So
Speaker 3: as he's talking with them, I'm around the vehicle on
Speaker 3: the driver's side looking and mind you, fifteen feet behind
Speaker 3: me is brush and then you got a river behind
Speaker 3: that in a mountain going up. Well, as I'm looking,
Speaker 3: this is the first time I've ever got hit with infrasound.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know what the hell infrasound was at
Speaker 3: the time. I had no idea.
Speaker 5: I was just there to hang out, you know, make sure,
Speaker 5: you know, drink a couple of beers, make sure no
Speaker 5: one got.
Speaker 2: Killed, right right.
Speaker 3: So as that was going on, I'm looking through the
Speaker 3: vehicle too. My buddies are on the other side of
Speaker 3: the passenger side. Both of them are skeptics. By the way,
Speaker 3: I kind of was like two in a way, but
Speaker 3: I heard this big groud right behind me, but it
Speaker 3: was like in between a lion, a bear, and a man.
Speaker 3: Well when it did it, though, it felt like literally oh,
Speaker 3: I had my backup against the subwoofer had a freaking
Speaker 3: Metallica concert and it hit me and then like my guts,
Speaker 3: my insides and everything was just shaken. I almost passed out.
Speaker 3: I had to grab the top of the vehicle and
Speaker 3: then I came to pulled my pistol went around. As
Speaker 3: I was doing that, the other guys had their guns
Speaker 3: drawn at the woodline. And then my buddy Ben was like,
Speaker 3: did you did you fucking hear that? You fucking hear that?
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I heard it. I even felt it.
Speaker 3: So Cameron came running up through his nods on and
Speaker 3: he's seen this nine foot creature running and you hear it.
Speaker 3: This almost sounds like a bulldozer busting through the freaking
Speaker 3: woods going away from us, and we're.
Speaker 4: Just like, what the hell was That's crazy?
Speaker 3: What the hell was that? You know? So after that
Speaker 3: we seen this trail that led from the vehicle, that
Speaker 3: led down to the river. So let's just go in
Speaker 3: a group of five and have the rest of you
Speaker 3: five stay here. We'll keep on comms. We'll go down
Speaker 3: to the river and make sure no one's down there.
Speaker 3: Halfway down the road down the trail, he calls in, Hey, guys,
Speaker 3: get back here. The story about just get back here.
Speaker 3: So we go back, get our stuff, get our gear,
Speaker 3: take a picture of the license plate, load everything back
Speaker 3: in the vehicle, and just leave it right. Then we
Speaker 3: go back to camp.
Speaker 5: And the next thing I know, I get waking up
Speaker 5: about like seven o'clock in the morning. Someone's kicking my
Speaker 5: tent and I hear Cameron and other people that are
Speaker 5: not a part of our group talking. I get out
Speaker 5: and Cameron's like, hey, we need to go. What do
Speaker 5: you mean we got like two more nights here. He's like, no,
Speaker 5: we need to go.
Speaker 3: Okay. He's like, just everyone shut up, pack your gear,
Speaker 3: let's get in the trucks. Let's get the hell out
Speaker 3: of here. Okay. Whatever. So we start loading up, and
Speaker 3: as we're driving back from Kentucky to Tennessee, I'm like, Cameron,
Speaker 3: what the hell was that about. Man.
Speaker 5: He's like, well, as far as we know, they came.
Speaker 5: They want to check out the vehicle because I gave
Speaker 5: him this. You know, I gave the cord and it's
Speaker 5: where it was at.
Speaker 3: They came over here and told us, hey, we need
Speaker 3: you guys to get the hell out of here now.
Speaker 3: So they literally the lock that part of a man
Speaker 3: the Cave National Park down for the whole weekend. Interesting
Speaker 3: and then they and then they open it back up.
Speaker 3: So I was like, this is freaking weird. Well, one
Speaker 3: of the guys that on my security team at the church,
Speaker 3: he's a he's a Tennessee Wildlife officer, is what he is.
Speaker 3: So I was talking to him about it, and I
Speaker 3: was like, hey, man, let me let me ask you
Speaker 3: a questions. So I just laid it all out for
Speaker 3: him and he's like, I'm not gonna say, but yeah,
Speaker 3: we have to lock down certain areas of the park
Speaker 3: if there's sketchy stuff going on and missing people stuff
Speaker 3: like that. He goes. But the part that freaks me
Speaker 3: out is that the FBI comes or has us turn
Speaker 3: in and email them or fax them all the lists
Speaker 3: of the missing people that we have. They're like, we'll
Speaker 3: take it over from here, and we start from zero
Speaker 3: every freaking year, So we don't have no idea what
Speaker 3: happens if they pick up the case, they keep going,
Speaker 3: he goes. I think they just get it and they
Speaker 3: shred it.
Speaker 2: So the amount of missing persons that come out of this,
Speaker 2: are we talking dozens every year? Single digits every year?
Speaker 2: What are we talking about here?
Speaker 3: To me? It varies.
Speaker 5: I know there's been an uptick ever since twenty fifteen,
Speaker 5: so it was like three to four a year as
Speaker 5: far as I know from what my buddy Evan said,
Speaker 5: it's probably like nine to ten a year.
Speaker 3: That's like, what the freak, dude, what's going on? So
Speaker 3: they find people, but half of them they don't find
Speaker 3: They don't know if they fell into a cave, got lost,
Speaker 3: got whatever. But yeah, it's it's weird. It's it's it's
Speaker 3: it's it's really weird.
Speaker 4: So that's just one national park too. There's a lot
Speaker 4: of national parks that have a lot of sketchy shit
Speaker 4: that go on with them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a lot a lot.
Speaker 4: Huh. So did you, like, did you ever find out
Speaker 4: what happened to the people with the missing vehicle? With
Speaker 4: the vehicle? I mean did they.
Speaker 3: Now, we did, and he kept he actually kept in
Speaker 3: contact and then nextly, you know, they just tell him
Speaker 3: they just stop asking to worry about it.
Speaker 4: Let you know, all right, that's always a positive thing. Yeah, right, right,
Speaker 4: So I wonder if they like they lock down the
Speaker 4: park specifically too, when they have any kind of encounters
Speaker 4: that are unexplained that people are calling in.
Speaker 3: I think they do.
Speaker 5: And in my opinion, I'm not going to name him.
Speaker 5: I can tell you guys after, but one of my
Speaker 5: good friends, now he's kind of like my mentor. He
Speaker 5: was a pilot for the army, but he did a helicopter.
Speaker 3: I forgot what you guys call him. Yeah, so I
Speaker 3: don't know, but anyway, yeah, he was a pilot and
Speaker 3: then after that he left and he started working for
Speaker 3: the for the CIA, and then he worked for another
Speaker 3: private organization called Critter Hitter Teams.
Speaker 4: I was like, what the hell is that git Hitter Teams.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's like, well, example, if you have certain
Speaker 3: hunters that go out, you know, go hunt deer or whatever,
Speaker 3: and let's say old Joe blow ends up missing and then.
Speaker 5: We find him contorted and broken in half and stuffed
Speaker 5: in a tree, nine foot up. We have to go
Speaker 5: shut the park down, and we got to go take
Speaker 5: out what's doing that.
Speaker 2: The fact brought up that option as a thing like
Speaker 2: that's not something that happens real, Like, you know, just
Speaker 2: in case, I guess we're the team they call, well,
Speaker 2: you mean, justin case, dude.
Speaker 4: The creditor real? Well is predator real?
Speaker 3: They're they're out, They're.
Speaker 4: Out here freaking collecting skulls and spines, like damn.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But that kind of led me open to like
Speaker 3: the whole dog Man theory and all that stuff and
Speaker 3: just you know, all this stuff when it comes to
Speaker 3: Ruberu and all that and Bigfoot and like wild Man
Speaker 3: and just all that stuff. But it's just it's it's
Speaker 3: really really interesting when you have a lot of aspects
Speaker 3: when it comes to missing people on what the outcomes are.
Speaker 3: Right when it comes to kids being gone. Next thing,
Speaker 3: you know, they've had a search team comb that air
Speaker 3: two hundred times, and then you see that kid perfectly
Speaker 3: fine on that same trail and he's walking towards you
Speaker 3: put no shoes on. Yeah, right, where the frick did
Speaker 3: you go? The time slip, like what happened? You know?
Speaker 3: And then that's where the whole portals come into effect, right, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, did you go in somewhere and then something
Speaker 3: escort you out, Like what's going on?
Speaker 4: So like that little three year old that disappeared, and
Speaker 4: then they comb that area for days, It was like
Speaker 4: like two days or something, the same spot over and
Speaker 4: over again. Then all of a sudden just showed back
Speaker 4: up right where they had walked in. A million people
Speaker 4: walked past the spot and just was like, hey, I'm here,
Speaker 4: and it was really weird. I looked at that case
Speaker 4: and I thought that was such a strange thing. Strange
Speaker 4: thing because not only was the child fine, like not maltnourished,
Speaker 4: not dehydrated, wasn't like you know, didn't have any visible wounds.
Speaker 4: Really was just kind of like there and survived on
Speaker 4: on its own for I think I can't remember if
Speaker 4: it was a girl boy, but for like it was
Speaker 4: like forty eight fifty two hours or some weird number
Speaker 4: that normally, normally after twenty four hours something, you know,
Speaker 4: their chances of survival go down dramatically. But you're talking
Speaker 4: all on your own and you're like three years old. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's just a weird. It's weird. I've seen a couple
Speaker 4: of those that just don't make any sense because it's
Speaker 4: do they go somewhere? I mean, is there something watching
Speaker 4: out for them? I don't know. It's but what happens
Speaker 4: in the national parks are very strange too, like the
Speaker 4: coincidences of people going missing, a lot of conversations about
Speaker 4: different type of cryptids that are around them, you know,
Speaker 4: alien conversations, stuff like that. It makes you wonder, are
Speaker 4: these hubs. Is that why they created these national parks
Speaker 4: specifically in these areas? You know, is there something that
Speaker 4: we aren't aware of and that's why? Or is it
Speaker 4: just because they're just so beautiful and just random spots everywhere?
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who knows.
Speaker 5: And like you said, they could be like dumbs underneath
Speaker 5: these national parks and you know, hey, let's uh whoever
Speaker 5: the government aid he says, Hey, let's give all Timmy
Speaker 5: or Warrewoff Timmy a light, a grain light to go
Speaker 5: out there and see how he interacts with the public.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, with that being said and the fact
Speaker 2: that you brought up, you know, church and that you
Speaker 2: do a little bit of some end time prophetic conversation
Speaker 2: when it comes to the cryptid conversation, the Bigfoot, the
Speaker 2: dog men, the rugaroo, all these cryptids, like you said.
Speaker 2: We have had a guest on the show a few
Speaker 2: times which we do need to get him back on
Speaker 2: soon named Scott Pace and he is somebody who has
Speaker 2: had multiple encounters with bigfoot and dogmen. He believes that
Speaker 2: these are borderline angelic beings, that they would not harm
Speaker 2: human beings. They would not, They wouldn't. Like to give
Speaker 2: the example that you said, they wouldn't rip a person
Speaker 2: apart and throw them in a tree somewhere. Demons might
Speaker 2: do that, but bigfoot are angelic, they would never do this.
Speaker 2: And then we've also heard the flip opposite of that
Speaker 2: from other people who have a lot of firsthand experience,
Speaker 2: and they might have a Native American lore to back
Speaker 2: them up to say that no, no, these things are
Speaker 2: basically just a step above interdimensional demons. You on need
Speaker 2: a fuck with them, and this and this, so like,
Speaker 2: as far as your research and your beliefs, where do
Speaker 2: the Bigfoot fall in?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 5: So I try to look at the whole the whole
Speaker 5: layout of everything, right if you look at all the reports, okay,
Speaker 5: for people's like you know, writing in whatever, there's more
Speaker 5: bad encounters than there are good. Hands down, There's more
Speaker 5: people getting her, there's more people missing, there's more people
Speaker 5: getting torn apart than there is someone having a you know,
Speaker 5: him frolicking through the freaking damn hells with this thing,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. These things are temperamental. These
Speaker 5: things are aggressive. If they want to kill you, they're
Speaker 5: going to kill you. That's hands down, unless you have
Speaker 5: certain things, you know, just to stop these things with.
Speaker 5: To me, in my opinion, those people lucked out, hands down. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they cut the right one at the right time, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's just that's just straight up my opinion. But also
Speaker 5: too though there's also a flip side of that. Long
Speaker 5: and longer I'm doing this, the more and more I'm
Speaker 5: seeing it's actually spiritual as well, because if you look
Speaker 5: at other cases too.
Speaker 3: A lot of these rugarus, a lot of these bigfoots
Speaker 3: have been stopped by people calling Jesus name, I need
Speaker 3: to just get away from me, and they just stop
Speaker 3: and they turn around and walk away. Right. It just
Speaker 3: depends on the encounter, just depends on the totality of
Speaker 3: the circumstances. If it's physical, if it's interdimensional, if it's spiritual.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, so you think that there's a little
Speaker 2: bit of just making sure here spiritual, physical, and air dimensional.
Speaker 2: A lot of people will group all of that into
Speaker 2: the same category. I am of the belief that interdimensional
Speaker 2: shit could be happening completely external of the spiritual conversation.
Speaker 2: Maybe the two are connected, maybe not, I don't know.
Speaker 2: And all that is happening on top of our physical
Speaker 2: reality but also separated from it, but also connected to it.
Speaker 2: It's it's complica and I get that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So as you're describing it, are you saying that these
Speaker 2: are different classifications are kind of all encompassing. What's to
Speaker 2: do here?
Speaker 3: To me? I think they're different classifications, right, because you
Speaker 3: got the physical right, the ones that have been shot,
Speaker 3: that have been killed, you know, you got bodies and
Speaker 3: the government agencies pick them up, and you know, then
Speaker 3: you got spiritual ones that you know if people have
Speaker 3: called out any Ima Jesus and these things walk away
Speaker 3: and they disappear, and then interdimensional if you're tracking one
Speaker 3: next thing, you know, where the hell did the footprints go?
Speaker 3: You know, this thing walk through a portal or going
Speaker 3: the inner Earth? Who knows? Did he get zapped up
Speaker 3: my aliens. Who knows, you know, he's down there is
Speaker 3: doing recon as a scout. I don't know, but I
Speaker 3: try to look at that as in like three different
Speaker 3: you know, as like three different parts I hear.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and so you know the dog men, where
Speaker 2: do they fall as far as from your understanding of
Speaker 2: what this the Cryptic Conversation is concerned, because before we
Speaker 2: had our guy Scott on the show, I had heard
Speaker 2: of were wolves. I had never heard of dog men,
Speaker 2: which are completely different and all of this is very
Speaker 2: different from the Rue Guru believe or not as far
Speaker 2: as the local legends and Lord of Louisiana I go.
Speaker 2: But so dog men, from your understanding, what are they?
Speaker 3: So? Okay?
Speaker 5: Like, okay, so I'm gonna go on three different things
Speaker 5: on this as well. The government some of them are
Speaker 5: government created. Talking to a couple of friends of mine,
Speaker 5: some of them are how do you put it? When
Speaker 5: it comes to okay, because they got two.
Speaker 3: Friends there were they were X Freemason's Illuminati and Satanic.
Speaker 3: They actually ran in the Satanic realms. These those as
Speaker 3: bodyguards and assassins. Okay, they conjured up these things.
Speaker 2: Or wait, who's using them. Is that the Sasquatch or
Speaker 2: the Freemasons.
Speaker 3: Satanists, right, like high ranking Satanists, right, gotcha. Yeah, So
Speaker 3: if they're doing their sances or they're doing sacrifices or whatnot,
Speaker 3: they use these things to patrol perimeters. Right. Or let's say,
Speaker 3: oh Mikey has a problem with oh Jeff and he's
Speaker 3: totally went against the coven.
Speaker 5: Right, Okay, well we need to take them out. How
Speaker 5: are we going to do that, Well, let's send an
Speaker 5: assassin to go kill them. Well, they usually conjure up
Speaker 5: a dog man or from what.
Speaker 3: He stated is that once you get up in the
Speaker 3: high in the Satanic realm, right, if you get to
Speaker 3: a level eleven, he says, they give you a choice.
Speaker 3: You can either become a witch, a wizard, a vampire,
Speaker 3: or a dog man. Right. So a lot of them
Speaker 3: stray from the dog man because the transformation hurts so
Speaker 3: freaking bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, but when they do it, that's where the physicality
Speaker 3: comes in. That basically, a demon just completely transforms your
Speaker 3: body into what you into, what you need. That's where
Speaker 3: you get the mountain witches, That's where you get the
Speaker 3: skin walkers from because these things fully let the spirits
Speaker 3: take over and transform their bodies and they use them
Speaker 3: as hitmen.
Speaker 2: So I've heard very similar things. And depending on which
Speaker 2: source you read, someone will say that it's like the
Speaker 2: Oto in the upper levels of them that's doing this.
Speaker 2: Some will say it's up there's all kinds of dark
Speaker 2: occult groups, right, But I've heard and you're saying level eleven,
Speaker 2: some will say level three, sixty, whatever, whatever numbers and shit, right,
Speaker 2: But yeah, whenever you get to a certain level as
Speaker 2: far as black magic goes, like actual magic, not biting
Speaker 2: some incense and doing some things to make you feel good,
Speaker 2: we're not talking about that. We're talking about truly calling
Speaker 2: upon the dark Lord to do evil shit and like
Speaker 2: overtly you know what you're getting into on that one, right.
Speaker 2: I've heard very similarly that when you get to a
Speaker 2: certain level, you get to choose whether you want to
Speaker 2: continue down your route of magic, which would be witch
Speaker 2: in warlock, or you go of the vampiric route. And no,
Speaker 2: I don't mean energy vampires, which that concept sounds really
Speaker 2: gay to me. I'm just whatever, but talking about real
Speaker 2: vamporism or the shape shifter route. But I've also heard
Speaker 2: that if you go shape shifter as in dog men
Speaker 2: or skin walk or were wolf or whatever. Transforming from
Speaker 2: a human to the creature is the easy part. Transforming
Speaker 2: back from the creature to a human typically will kill
Speaker 2: the part.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I actually only think there's and again I understand you
Speaker 2: have to check the sources here. I can only think
Speaker 2: of three examples throughout the course of human history of
Speaker 2: somebody that was able to make the transformation from human
Speaker 2: animal and then from animal to human and survive. And
Speaker 2: that wasn't like they were able to do it at
Speaker 2: a whim. That was they were able to do it
Speaker 2: one fucking time.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Usually, Yeah, Yeah, I've heard of that too, and
Speaker 3: that's why a lot of them, what I've heard is
Speaker 3: that they usually just stay in that in that you know, right,
Speaker 3: instead of transforming back that they do they'll die. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's why a lot of them just stay in it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's very very very interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: We actually have somebody of that's one of our affiliates,
Speaker 4: Tinfoil Hats, that's experienced the dog ben and has an
Speaker 4: interesting Uh he actually goes out and he hunts cryptids too,
Speaker 4: doesn't he. Yeah, if I remember it, Yeah, he goes
Speaker 4: out too. Because we're he lives, They've had all sorts
Speaker 4: of stuff. It's like it's like the Bermuda Triangle where
Speaker 4: he lives, and there's a lot of stuff that goes
Speaker 4: on because of the burial grounds and everything that's around him.
Speaker 4: But his story is really interesting. And then we just
Speaker 4: had We've had quite a few people on that have
Speaker 4: talked about different dogmen stories and different bigfoot encounters or
Speaker 4: what they've heard from other people. And it's like, all
Speaker 4: across the board we have, you know, some some really
Speaker 4: enjoy them, some you know, really do not enjoy their
Speaker 4: encounters with you know. I think it's just a wide spectrum.
Speaker 4: I wonder if there's like different races of them, different variants.
Speaker 3: I think there is, you know, because you got the Yeddi,
Speaker 3: you got the Yawie, You've got yeah, you know, the
Speaker 3: big dude up in the north, the northeast old Patty,
Speaker 3: you got the southern ones that are red and they're
Speaker 3: smaller and more aggressive. Yeah, oh yeah, I think there's
Speaker 3: different races of them.
Speaker 4: I wonder if that changes what their abilities are, Like
Speaker 4: I wonder if some are able to you know, open portals,
Speaker 4: or if some have to have somebody else do it?
Speaker 4: Can they become invisible? Are they able to mask certain
Speaker 4: things of themselves?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: I wonder if there's like different temperaments depending just like horses,
Speaker 4: for example, that we're just talking about each horse's Some
Speaker 4: horses are really really calm, really sweet horses, and like
Speaker 4: you can you know, they're just work horses and they're
Speaker 4: really kind. And then you have the Arabs that are
Speaker 4: very cranky and pissy and don't want to be around
Speaker 4: people and they're hot bloods, and so I wonder if
Speaker 4: that's kind of the same when it comes to these
Speaker 4: types of conversations as well. So they are intermixed with humans,
Speaker 4: and humans are transforming into these things and being stuck,
Speaker 4: you know, do they lose their mind? Are they trapped
Speaker 4: in their trapped in these bodies and become evil because
Speaker 4: they can't transform back? Do they have bloodluss? You know,
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Lots of questions for sure, the same way that that's
Speaker 2: like saying, so you know, an alien race reaches out
Speaker 2: to Earth and they meet humans, like, are all humans
Speaker 2: the same? I don't know, dude. There's these one humans
Speaker 2: that say they're from this place called Brooklyn. They're fucking assholes. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: we got these other humans. They claim that they're from
Speaker 2: this place called Florida, and I actually think they're kind
Speaker 2: of impervious to magic and death. There's this thing called
Speaker 2: a Florida man. We're learning more about them. Meanwhile, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, it's like the same way the
Speaker 2: humans run the gambit. I believe aliens run the gambit,
Speaker 2: and I think it's very much in line that possibly
Speaker 2: the sam Squench runs in line with this, they run
Speaker 2: the gambit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so does your team have like so they get
Speaker 4: hired to go out and do your private security for
Speaker 4: people that are wanting to do like I guess, adventures.
Speaker 5: So okay, So example, so if we do like research
Speaker 5: expeditions or whatnot, we'll go do that. But like the
Speaker 5: company I got, the CW Operations, we actually help people
Speaker 5: that are actually having like problem when it comes to
Speaker 5: spiritual and when it comes to cryptids and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: So, oh gosh, I'll just let's talk about okay.
Speaker 5: So the first all okay, Yeah, So the first one
Speaker 5: we actually got called on was in Whitleyville, Tennessee.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say her name, but we got called
Speaker 3: out because something was trying to get in their cabin,
Speaker 3: something was killing their chickens, something was being very aggressive
Speaker 3: running and hitting their cabin, leaving claw marks and stuff.
Speaker 5: Well, so before I take a case, right, I talked
Speaker 5: to the person. I try to find out what their
Speaker 5: background is, right, what they do, what are they into spiritually?
Speaker 5: All this stuff, and that will kind of dictate on Okay,
Speaker 5: it's a go or now, because if we do that,
Speaker 5: we're gonna waste our time and then they're gonna go
Speaker 5: back to their Shenanigans and I'm gonna open up this
Speaker 5: thing again and.
Speaker 3: It's just gonna start from square one, right, So.
Speaker 5: This is where I kind of learned the hard way
Speaker 5: on that. So this is kind of like our first case.
Speaker 5: We got called out too, so we had to deal
Speaker 5: with the skin walker from what I was told.
Speaker 2: So where was this?
Speaker 3: This was in Whitleyville, Tennessee.
Speaker 2: That's very out of character for the skin walkers to
Speaker 2: be that far east.
Speaker 3: But okay, but it turns out though they're actually called
Speaker 3: mountain witches here. Okay, so yeah, skinnies are straight up west.
Speaker 3: But as far as that, here's the intel that we got.
Speaker 3: So one of my friends, she works for she's worked
Speaker 3: for the CIA. But one of her buddies, I'll just script, Yeah,
Speaker 3: William Knighthawk. You guys ever heard of them?
Speaker 2: The name's familiar.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So at the Navajo native that actually had made a
Speaker 2: I want to say, a profession, but he talks about
Speaker 2: it on his YouTube channel about how.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I want to kind of put it to
Speaker 3: the test. I wanted to put it to the test.
Speaker 5: So I was like, Hey, I've never dealt with the
Speaker 5: skinny before, so I need to know how to come
Speaker 5: about this.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, so are you find the bones? So
Speaker 3: here's what happened. He he actually did like a lot
Speaker 3: of digging for me in this area. So it turns
Speaker 3: out that there was a cave system thirty feet away
Speaker 3: from this lady's house. What she did was as soon
Speaker 3: as her and her husband drove on the land, they
Speaker 3: didn't even unload yet from the U haul, she saw
Speaker 3: the cave. She put an offering down at the cave.
Speaker 5: The FU and they did, yeah, put an offering down
Speaker 5: at the cave and stated, Hey, to all.
Speaker 3: The spirits that are here, we're not here to trash
Speaker 3: your land. We're here to live amongst you. Guys, so
Speaker 3: we come in peace basically, right. So what happened was.
Speaker 5: I started talking to his basically to his family that
Speaker 5: live in this area, that go back way wherever. So
Speaker 5: what they found out in like I guess, like the
Speaker 5: Indian archives. What he said is that in this era
Speaker 5: we went to, there were three different factions of tribes here.
Speaker 3: Okay, they were having problems with these three Indian witches
Speaker 3: is what we're called.
Speaker 5: They were rogue, So they were causing havoc between these
Speaker 5: three tribes.
Speaker 3: Well, they were getting sick of it, so they were
Speaker 3: hunting these things down. They cornered them into the cave
Speaker 3: and they killed them. Before they killed them, one of
Speaker 3: them basically set a spell. So it turns out it's
Speaker 3: almost like a poltergeist. Right. So it turns out that
Speaker 3: if anybody puts an offering at the entrance of this
Speaker 3: cave at this exact time, our spiritu will be free.
Speaker 3: Well three hundred years later, what happened, That's what she did.
Speaker 4: Some pocus pocus shit, Yeah, but she was.
Speaker 5: Into like all kinds of missed like weird stuff. So
Speaker 5: so it basically ramped up from there. So as soon
Speaker 5: as she did it, the first night nothing happened. Second night,
Speaker 5: as they're you know, getting stuff done around the house,
Speaker 5: they were hearing something.
Speaker 3: Slammed against their cabin. This is weird, so they put
Speaker 3: up cameras. They started seeing shadow creatures running in and
Speaker 3: out of the cave. No, and then yeah, And then
Speaker 3: the next week they had a neighbor that was I
Speaker 3: think he was I think he was fifty yards away
Speaker 3: because they lived on this like area where there was
Speaker 3: a valley and a hauler and then you know, there
Speaker 3: was like three farmhouses there and one of them was
Speaker 3: a cabin, which was hers. Well, the guy that.
Speaker 5: Just moved in, he literally left a week later, just
Speaker 5: I'm out bone, he just left. Well, she started talking
Speaker 5: to the neighbor that was across the street, like, hey,
Speaker 5: why did so and so leave. She was like, well,
Speaker 5: it turns out that he saw a nine foot creature
Speaker 5: running through his field and then stop and turned and
Speaker 5: looked at him and started running towards the house and
Speaker 5: you just shut it.
Speaker 3: And then he's like I'm not dealing with this crap,
Speaker 3: and he was out. He left, So she's like, huh,
Speaker 3: that's weird. So after that, like as weeks go on,
Speaker 3: they kept seeing shadow people and stuff running through the yard.
Speaker 3: And then she would wake up up with entities in
Speaker 3: her house, like seeing shadow figures and stuff. So she
Speaker 3: would try to do her rituals and stuff and nothing
Speaker 3: was working. It was making it worse. Then they put
Speaker 3: up a chicken coop.
Speaker 5: Then they put up a chicken coop, and next thing
Speaker 5: you know, her chickens were going missing, like getting pulled
Speaker 5: through the frickin chicken wire and feathers everywhere, and it
Speaker 5: was leaning back to the cave.
Speaker 4: I think never seen the movie The Descent, because like,
Speaker 4: as soon as I said, I would be out so fast, yeah,
Speaker 4: thank you. Nope, that movie. That movie there has scarred
Speaker 4: me from going in near any kind of cave opening.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, no, I'm good. As soon as I
Speaker 4: saw when I'd be out, I would have gone that day.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So so after that, like I said, they put up
Speaker 5: cameras and they were seeing these things happen. Well, they
Speaker 5: had a camera directly pointed out their chicken.
Speaker 3: Coop because of that.
Speaker 5: Well, during the night they went through their video recording
Speaker 5: because they went out.
Speaker 3: To feed the chickens. The next day, more ended up missing.
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, we got it, we got it. We
Speaker 3: got this person, kept thinking it was a person. So
Speaker 3: next thing you know, you've seen two nine foot shadow
Speaker 3: things running out of the cave real fast. Then you've
Speaker 3: seen their camera view start to move away from the
Speaker 3: chicken coop, and then you heard a bunch of noise,
Speaker 3: and that was that.
Speaker 4: Nope, yeah, I don't fuck with stuff like that. I'd
Speaker 4: be like, okay, so I'm moving right now, like this second.
Speaker 3: And then she said that her and her husband two
Speaker 3: almost every night, maybe laying down, and they'd feel like
Speaker 3: there was like an underground a railroad going underneath their capita,
Speaker 3: and their house would shake.
Speaker 4: How could you stay there? Like, I don't understand that.
Speaker 2: I never understood that because a certain demographic thinks that
Speaker 2: these things are charming. I'm not gonna say what demographic
Speaker 2: that is, but I think we all know where I'm
Speaker 2: going with this. The type that's like, oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: leave offering outside the cave, bitch, stop that. Why why
Speaker 2: would we do that?
Speaker 4: As soon as you said there was a cave, I'd
Speaker 4: been like, so no, nope. If it moved it as well,
Speaker 4: and you can hear them underneath, how could you even sleep?
Speaker 4: I couldn't sleep I'd be I'd be so paranoid there's
Speaker 4: no way I could sleep even even at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So, so like two months later, she contacted one of
Speaker 5: my friends, and my friends contacted me, Hey, talk to
Speaker 5: this girl.
Speaker 3: She she Genian's help. She called law.
Speaker 5: Enforcement out there. They're like, we don't know what's going on.
Speaker 5: Just watch out for feral people whatever.
Speaker 2: Watch out for feral people, people people living in the mountains.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: And the fact they were so nonchalant about that too. Look, bro,
Speaker 2: we don't know what to tell you. Just kind of
Speaker 2: be on the look out for feral people. The fuck
Speaker 2: you God damn.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And what's what was a bummer was they only
Speaker 3: had like two deputies at the time for that whole area.
Speaker 3: So it's like like what do you got, you know?
Speaker 3: But anyways, Yeah, so I talked to her. We scheduled
Speaker 3: an appointment. Okay, just give us the whole overview of everything,
Speaker 3: just that we we can look it up on Google,
Speaker 3: GPS and all that. So we were doing very very
Speaker 3: very hard intel like three months prior to that, just
Speaker 3: you know, just so we can get there. And so
Speaker 3: we had to cut it short, like we had to
Speaker 3: literally go like the next month because it was really
Speaker 3: ramping up, like, all right, well we'll get there. We'll
Speaker 3: get there as quick as possible.
Speaker 2: What month was else? Do you remember it was?
Speaker 3: I think it was in April.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, I was gonna say, please don't tell me
Speaker 2: it was March to April. But okay, all right, anyway,
Speaker 2: moving on.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, yeah, so we finally went there. I had
Speaker 3: a team of at the time I had I had
Speaker 3: a team of five to six guys. So this guy's
Speaker 3: prior military law enforcement bounty hunter.
Speaker 5: So these guys all have their own personal encounters too,
Speaker 5: mind you, when it comes to when it comes to
Speaker 5: phenomenons UFOs like entities, cripts all that, they've all had
Speaker 5: their own personal experiences, so you know.
Speaker 3: Anyways, yeah, so they want to help.
Speaker 5: So we came up with the game plan and yeah,
Speaker 5: so as soon as we got there, we've seen her
Speaker 5: there doing her stuff with sage and candles, and I
Speaker 5: was like, for real, okay, just stop the stuff.
Speaker 3: You're making it worse. Come over here and talk to
Speaker 3: about right. So what we did was so first off,
Speaker 3: right off the bat, I try to do everything as
Speaker 3: biblically as possible, so that way nothing attaches to us
Speaker 3: and follows us back home. Right, So, we get all
Speaker 3: the guys in corner up, we pray over each other,
Speaker 3: annoys in aile, we get all our weapons, we annoint everything,
Speaker 3: and we're good to go.
Speaker 5: So so she basically shows us the cave.
Speaker 3: We kind of look at it, we kind of get
Speaker 3: a game plan, and at the same time, my buddy's
Speaker 3: flying his drone getting an aerial view of everything. That
Speaker 3: me and my buddy Brian, we get on our four
Speaker 3: wheelers and we just check out the area right on
Speaker 3: where she took pictures of these things. So this is
Speaker 3: crazy part. I'll send this to you guys. She took
Speaker 3: a picture when she went out to the chicken coop.
Speaker 3: She heard a noise before we got there, and she
Speaker 3: took a snapshot and you see clearly almost looks like
Speaker 3: a dog man, but it's the silhouette of it looking
Speaker 3: through the brush and then it just duck down.
Speaker 2: Now when you say this, I have to ask this.
Speaker 2: We have had people come on the show that will
Speaker 2: bring these pictures that they took where they you can
Speaker 2: clearly see this is right here. It's in the those ones.
Speaker 3: You got a circle it and like, hey, bro, you
Speaker 3: haven't opened up your third eye. You can't see it.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, you see exactly where I'm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate that. I even comment on Facebook and
Speaker 3: crap all the time, Like, dude, you make freaking literally
Speaker 3: people who really want to do this crypti research. He
Speaker 3: looked like fools to the public. You guys need to stop.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you physically can't see it.
Speaker 2: Or even worse, whenever it's like a picture of a
Speaker 2: baby bigfoot that is clearly clearly AI, like, it's it's
Speaker 2: not even funny. This isn't even like I could take
Speaker 2: a Halloween mask of a bigfoot, throw it into a
Speaker 2: bush and take a picture and it would look more
Speaker 2: realistic than what you're showing me right now. But like, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a real photo. Did you take it? No, this
Speaker 2: was sent to me by a guy who was sent
Speaker 2: to him by guy who's like in the No, and
Speaker 2: it's like, bro, please don't insult everybody's intelligence here, what
Speaker 2: are we doing here?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So what was cool was we actually took pictures
Speaker 3: of tracks and these tracks, I'll actually send it to
Speaker 3: you too. I can actually send it to you right
Speaker 3: now via email.
Speaker 2: But it looks like sending in the chat. Oh god,
Speaker 2: I got or share your screen. I mean, either way
Speaker 2: it goes, honestly.
Speaker 3: Let me see it real quick.
Speaker 5: But yeah, so we took a picture of this track
Speaker 5: and it looked like almost looked like a human foot
Speaker 5: at the bait at the bottom part of it, but
Speaker 5: then it looked like it was like five claws, almost
Speaker 5: like almost like a gigway claw or something.
Speaker 3: It's weird, man, let me find it real quick.
Speaker 2: God.
Speaker 4: Wait, I'm way too of a person that's like, Nope,
Speaker 4: there's no way I can see something something behind you.
Speaker 3: Send it to you, guys, I can't freaking you can't
Speaker 3: really see it.
Speaker 2: Dude, No, you ain't making it.
Speaker 4: If yeah, if you send it on if you are
Speaker 4: able to pull up on your computer, you can drop
Speaker 4: it into the chat or you can you can send
Speaker 4: it to him.
Speaker 2: Either way, either way, it's fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy. So what happened? So she's out here
Speaker 4: staging and doing all this shit, thinking that she's helping,
Speaker 4: and then these things are being so bullsy at bullsy ballsy. Wow,
Speaker 4: my brain just went in two places at once to
Speaker 4: be strong to be standing there watching her like broad daylight.
Speaker 4: So what happened? Like, once you guys figured out. What
Speaker 4: was your game plan to take care of this? Like,
Speaker 4: were you decided to go in the cave?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we did that.
Speaker 5: So not only that, me and the guys we do
Speaker 5: a lot of caving too, so we're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: come on buddy, So we're like, let's it's.
Speaker 4: Good for you. I can't there's no way, Like, I
Speaker 4: don't care how many of us there are, what's in
Speaker 4: that cave, I'm not going in the cave.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you go on on my Instagram, I
Speaker 3: actually got video and photos of us in the cave
Speaker 3: systems or where we went.
Speaker 5: But anyways, Yeah, so we went in and we brought
Speaker 5: like three hundred foot of rope for repelling and stuff
Speaker 5: like that, just in case, and so we went as
Speaker 5: far as we can go. But the crazy part was
Speaker 5: that there were certain passages that were like concreted off
Speaker 5: and then you keep going and going and you take
Speaker 5: a hard left and this one has like bars on it,
Speaker 5: like that's weird, and you just keep.
Speaker 3: Going in the cave, right, what the fuck? Yeah, it
Speaker 3: was weird.
Speaker 5: And then so we came up to we had to
Speaker 5: tie off to this part of my Sorry guys for
Speaker 5: all you cavers out there.
Speaker 3: We had to tie off to this stelec tie.
Speaker 5: I know that's bad, but whatever, So we did that
Speaker 5: and then we dropped down about a good thirty feet
Speaker 5: and there was water coming down, and then we had
Speaker 5: to climb up this like mesa looking thing. As soon
Speaker 5: as we went up that mesa looking thing, it dropped
Speaker 5: down one hundred feet.
Speaker 3: It was pitch block. We dropped the cam light down
Speaker 3: and we're like, well, this as far as we go
Speaker 3: because we ran out of rope, so we backtracked. We
Speaker 3: didn't see anything. We just backtracked, try to looked for
Speaker 3: foot prints. Nothing. Okay, this is weird. So we get out.
Speaker 5: We kind of come up with the game plan because
Speaker 5: it's getting dark. So like, okay, well I have my
Speaker 5: buddy Tea. He's up on top taking the high ground.
Speaker 5: He's got his thirty three lapua pointed at the entrance
Speaker 5: with nods.
Speaker 3: We're over here. We're almost like an l formation.
Speaker 2: Right wait, wait, what the fuck did he bring a
Speaker 2: three thirty lapuola into a cave?
Speaker 3: For?
Speaker 2: Like? What is he?
Speaker 3: You know he didn't bring it into the cave. He
Speaker 3: took the high ground at night, pointed at the entrance
Speaker 3: at the cave.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, what kind of ring is aim for here? God? Alright?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, So anyways, like I was saying, yes,
Speaker 3: so at nighttime we kind of set it up so
Speaker 3: if anything comes out of the cave, you know, we
Speaker 3: can do some observation look at it, and then if
Speaker 3: it goes to ship, we can be ready. So yeah,
Speaker 3: nothing happened. So I'm like, man, I hope this ain't
Speaker 3: a bus, you know what I'm saying. And then but
Speaker 3: then at night time when we're camp and out on
Speaker 3: her camera, she's seen shadow things go across going through
Speaker 3: our camp. We didn't hear anything. Tea was doing firewatch.
Speaker 3: He didn't see anything that night. And then yeah, and
Speaker 3: then we went to another cave because we followed these
Speaker 3: tracks that I'm gonna send you guys here right freaking
Speaker 3: out off my phone. We followed to this other cave
Speaker 3: that they showed us that she thinks that they were
Speaker 3: coming out of and it was a good sixty foot drop.
Speaker 3: So we tied off, went down there, and this is
Speaker 3: where I started thinking about crawlers, right, the rake, the
Speaker 3: descent and stuff, because as we're going through these through
Speaker 3: these caves, they start to narrow out, and we kind
Speaker 3: of had a spider crawl through this and it kind
Speaker 3: of nineties to the left and we see something that
Speaker 3: looks like a shadow figure puk its head out and
Speaker 3: go back in and we're like, no, uh uh, we're
Speaker 3: backing out. So we pull our pistols out. And then
Speaker 3: we came to the conclusion like a lot of this
Speaker 3: stuff spiritual, it's it's not physical, And what you're doing
Speaker 3: opened up something that that's out of your control, out
Speaker 3: of your control.
Speaker 5: So here's what we're gonna do. So whatever you're doing,
Speaker 5: you have to stop. You got to get these cursed
Speaker 5: objects out of here.
Speaker 3: You gotta burn them. We're gonna pray over your land.
Speaker 3: We're gonna put anointroll on things, holy water, salt, stuff
Speaker 3: like that. And everything was good to go, and then
Speaker 3: turns out she started doing her chiganigans again and it
Speaker 3: basically ramped up to ten and she picked up and
Speaker 3: she moved, Yeah, that's the last of it, and that
Speaker 3: and that cabin is still empty as far as we know.
Speaker 3: And that was three years ago.
Speaker 2: Wow, you got did you get paid for this? Just curious,
Speaker 2: like it was a consultant thing and all this or
Speaker 2: was this for the content.
Speaker 3: This was actually just because we really wanted to generally
Speaker 3: help somebody. Like I didn't ask for money, I didn't
Speaker 3: do anything like, yeah, well you know, we'll come here
Speaker 3: to help you out. So they want to throw a
Speaker 3: little bread, I'm cool with that. If not, I don't care,
Speaker 3: you know, just yeah, just want to help you guys out.
Speaker 2: And how big.
Speaker 3: So we had about five to six at the time,
Speaker 3: no doubt.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Raven, I cut you off.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Oh you're good. I was just gonna say,
Speaker 4: to date, how many cases have you gone on and
Speaker 4: how many people have you been able to help?
Speaker 3: So this one was really scary. This one really really
Speaker 3: sucks because it really really freaking hurts me. So one
Speaker 3: of my buddies Bear County big Foot. You ever heard
Speaker 3: of him?
Speaker 2: I feel like I have.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyways, his name is David Good Dude. He's based
Speaker 3: out of Texas. He hit me up, He's like, hey man,
Speaker 3: this was a year ago. He's like, hey, I want
Speaker 3: to get a hold of you. But this lady, she
Speaker 3: hit me up. She don't know what's going on.
Speaker 5: Her parents own a they're basically own like a farm
Speaker 5: land out in the in the area, almost in like
Speaker 5: dog Man like like the Triangle area in Texas, but
Speaker 5: pretty close to I think.
Speaker 3: Or something like that. But they're having problems out there
Speaker 3: with their cattle getting torn up.
Speaker 5: So they're thinking it's coyotes. It's too big to be coyotes.
Speaker 5: And this is how they make a living, it's off
Speaker 5: their cattle. They keep calling sheriff's deputies out. They're not
Speaker 5: finding a damn thing.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, if it keeps coming back, let us know,
Speaker 3: we'll have someone close to the area. So it happens again,
Speaker 3: something's getting close to the house. They're hear and growls.
Speaker 3: They call law enforcement. Law enforcement gets there. These things
Speaker 3: are already gone in the brush, and that's that, right.
Speaker 3: So she's confiding to me about it, and then I
Speaker 3: decided to call you. I was like, okay, so if
Speaker 3: you could, if we could FaceTime these people, that would
Speaker 3: be great. That way I can get a feel of
Speaker 3: what they're like. You know, I don't want to go there,
Speaker 3: waste all our money, and these guys are cuckoo's right, right,
Speaker 3: So that's time and energy off of us. So we
Speaker 3: talked to them. We talked to the to the daughter,
Speaker 3: and she seems like legit scared. She's a nurse. She's like,
Speaker 3: I have I am not being crazy. I'm letting you
Speaker 3: know what's going on.
Speaker 5: This is what's going on with my mom and dad,
Speaker 5: and I'm really really really scared. If you guys can
Speaker 5: at least come out here check it out, I would have.
Speaker 3: Some peace of mind. Cool, all right, let me talk
Speaker 3: to the guys because we all have jobs. Let's kind
Speaker 3: of coordinate schedules.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: So we all talked about it. Okay, Cool, we'll be
Speaker 3: out there the earliest three weeks from now. Cool. Two
Speaker 3: weeks goes by.
Speaker 5: I get a text from from my buddy David and
Speaker 5: he's like, hey, don't worry about the freaking don't worry
Speaker 5: about the trip.
Speaker 3: Man. I was like, why, what's going on everybody? Okay?
Speaker 3: He's like, no, her parents have gone missing and they
Speaker 3: can't find him.
Speaker 2: Oh shure.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so the door was open, looks like someone
Speaker 5: kicked the door open. There is a there's you know,
Speaker 5: stuff flipped over. Yeah, and they can't find him and
Speaker 5: they're still looking for him. So yeah, she's in the
Speaker 5: straw and yeah, we don't know what's going on. So
Speaker 5: I'll keep you posting.
Speaker 3: I'm like ah man, okay, shit, you know, so that's
Speaker 3: that that was one of them.
Speaker 2: And how long ago that.
Speaker 3: That was about a year ago, like a year and
Speaker 3: a half ago.
Speaker 4: Never found him.
Speaker 3: Now they never found him?
Speaker 2: Oh shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So and then this, uh, the next one went on.
Speaker 5: It was in It was in White Mountain, Tennessee. So
Speaker 5: my buddy Paul, he does a lot of the Facebook
Speaker 5: stuff and forms and all that, and somebody written him
Speaker 5: from from from from Mountain City, Tennessee, that Hey, there's
Speaker 5: a lot of homeless out here and like people dying,
Speaker 5: and it's backing up to my land. You got all
Speaker 5: these logging roads, and I'm generally freaking out because I'm
Speaker 5: hearing some weird stuff out here and it's getting close
Speaker 5: to my horses, to the cattle, and I'm really freaking out.
Speaker 5: And law enforcement can only do so much. Could you
Speaker 5: guys camp out in this area for like two days
Speaker 5: and just let me know what's going on, Like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's only like a three hour trip from us.
Speaker 3: We'll just do it over the weekend. Let's do it.
Speaker 3: So this is where I learned the hard way. Never
Speaker 3: bring a team under five ever. Ever, I only had
Speaker 3: three guys at that time because all they get scheduling.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of the guys can make it.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, ask it. We'll just go with the
Speaker 3: team of three.
Speaker 5: So it was me, my buddy, Tea, and Paul. So
Speaker 5: we leave on a Friday, head up there, talk with her.
Speaker 5: She showed us where the logging roads are. We drive
Speaker 5: as far as the truck can go, and law enforcement.
Speaker 5: We actual talked to law enforcement up there, like, hey,
Speaker 5: this is where we've can find a lot of dead homeless,
Speaker 5: a lot of missing homeless.
Speaker 3: Tent's been randosacks, stuff like that, and it's been kind
Speaker 3: of weird out here. So be careful. Here's my card,
Speaker 3: call me if you need anything. Cool. So at least
Speaker 3: they know or what area we're going to be at
Speaker 3: and what time we're going to be back. So anyway,
Speaker 3: so we get there, we drive as far as the
Speaker 3: truck can go, and we get our gear.
Speaker 5: We hike down about a good half a mile from
Speaker 5: the truck into this area to where there was mountains
Speaker 5: all on the side of us, and we're lik in
Speaker 5: it like killboxes, you know, which is bad, but you know,
Speaker 5: we things to come to us to kind of see
Speaker 5: what's going on. So we do that setup camp, and
Speaker 5: we always have a rule whoever drives these the keys
Speaker 5: and the freaking gas and the gas door or underneath
Speaker 5: and the fender or something.
Speaker 3: Because God forbid you have the keys and you get
Speaker 3: drug off, we're screwed. You know what I meant happen.
Speaker 5: So so we did that to set up camp eight
Speaker 5: dinner and this is pushing about twelve o'clock at night.
Speaker 5: And at the time, my buddy Tea was a big,
Speaker 5: big skeptic because of the incident that happened at the
Speaker 5: Skinwalker Cave. He's like, ah, we didn't see you, damn
Speaker 5: thing man, just there's just spirits and stuff.
Speaker 3: So he was pissed.
Speaker 5: So I was like, come on this, come on, just
Speaker 5: go with us on this one. He's all right, I'll go.
Speaker 5: So this totally transformed his outlook on forever. Now he's
Speaker 5: full fledged into it. So this is probably the scariest
Speaker 5: I've ever been at doing this.
Speaker 3: So twelve o'clock hit, We got the fire going, Paul's
Speaker 3: going to sleep, Me and Ti are just sitting there talking.
Speaker 3: We got all our kid on. And but before that though,
Speaker 3: that happened before we set up camp, I set triple
Speaker 3: arms around the camp about fifty yard radius out around us,
Speaker 3: and these triple arms. If you trip it, it starts
Speaker 3: going nuts, right.
Speaker 5: So we got that going on, and I guess, like
Speaker 5: I said, Paul goes to sleep, Me and Tier are talking,
Speaker 5: and then we start hearing the.
Speaker 3: Rocks roll down the mountain behind us where the truck
Speaker 3: was at. So we're just kind of we're kind of listening,
Speaker 3: and he goes, what the hell is that. I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: something's coming to scope us out. I think could be
Speaker 3: a deer, who knows. Just just keep listening. And then
Speaker 3: we're hearing leaves crunch. And this is the middle of
Speaker 3: like November, so all the folios is down, you got
Speaker 3: leaves and everything. And then we're hearing leaves crunch about
Speaker 3: one hundred yards away from us, walking towards us. And
Speaker 3: it's not it's not on four legs. It's bipedal. You
Speaker 3: can clearly tell it's a bipedal.
Speaker 5: We're like, I wonder if it's one of those hoboes
Speaker 5: or you know something, you know, because you can clearly
Speaker 5: see the fire if you're on top of the mountain, right,
Speaker 5: And then it stops about a good seventy five yards
Speaker 5: away from us, and we heard it stop, and then
Speaker 5: we slowly just stand up and we're just looking. So
Speaker 5: we kind of kind of put the.
Speaker 3: Fire out a little bit, throw our nods on, and
Speaker 3: we're just listening, just listening. Next thing we know, we
Speaker 3: hear a branch break on the left of us, and
Speaker 3: then we hear something running. And when we hear it running,
Speaker 3: to me, it made me laugh because it almost sounded
Speaker 3: like a oh God, I like almost like a chimp,
Speaker 3: like like that running shit. And I was like, what
Speaker 3: the hell was that? And t you was like what.
Speaker 3: We just started laughing, like what the hell was that?
Speaker 3: I don't know. So as we go investigate that area,
Speaker 3: we go towards where we heard that noise. Next thing,
Speaker 3: you know, the northern alarm trips off, which is by
Speaker 3: the truck. It trips off, so we're like shit, so
Speaker 3: we go hauling butt back. The problem is with these
Speaker 3: trip alarms, I have to manually set it back up.
Speaker 3: So we get there, we don't see anything.
Speaker 5: I set it up. Next thing you know, it starts
Speaker 5: to rain. The south alarm trips off. We're like, dude,
Speaker 5: they're just okadoning us right now.
Speaker 3: We're just running back and forth so we go step
Speaker 3: that back up and then Paul's still asleep mind you.
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, wake the freaking up, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm up, I'm up, and we're telling me, aybro, we're
Speaker 3: having contact. We don't know what's going on. So he's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll be up. Well, paw out some stuff going on.
Speaker 3: He was just out of it, so whatever. So it
Speaker 3: was really just me and Tea that we're up. So
Speaker 3: as me and t are kind of like back to
Speaker 3: back just listening. We're hearing tree shake, we're hearing running
Speaker 3: around us, but we're not seeing anything. It's the part
Speaker 3: that pisses me off is we're not seeing the damn thing.
Speaker 3: We've got our freaking u got our stream lights on
Speaker 3: our rifles looking, we've got nods like nothing. We're not
Speaker 3: seeing anything. But they're staying outside the perimeter. They're just
Speaker 3: testing the perimeter, is what they're doing. So we're like,
Speaker 3: all right, whatever. So he's getting tired, pushing like one
Speaker 3: thirty in the morning. I'm getting a little amped. I'm
Speaker 3: not tired. So he goes in his tent.
Speaker 5: I kind of creep back in my tent, but I'm
Speaker 5: in the prone position, just listening, looking listening. Well, you
Speaker 5: do that for a minute, I start to kind of
Speaker 5: doze off. As I'm dozing off, I wake up to
Speaker 5: the noise going on there. Well it was Tea throwing up.
Speaker 3: What happened was before he threw up, what he told
Speaker 3: me after the fact was that he heard something walking
Speaker 3: up to his tent did the same boom, like that
Speaker 3: happened to me back in the tacky. He said, he
Speaker 3: started spinning. He had to get off his cot. And
Speaker 3: when he did that, when he threw up, I woke up,
Speaker 3: came out of the tent. That's when all the alarms
Speaker 3: tripped off, all at once.
Speaker 5: Sports Southeast West all started tripping off. I said, fuck this.
Speaker 5: I picked a tree.
Speaker 3: I couldn't see the target, but I picked a tree
Speaker 3: and I fired five shots. Boom boom boom, boom boom boom.
Speaker 3: And you hear these things just taking off and running
Speaker 3: as the alarms are going off. Yeah, and uh like
Speaker 3: Hee's like crying, like like trying to clean himself up
Speaker 3: with his rifle off, you know, just like this ain't happening,
Speaker 3: you know, and like it's happening. And after that we
Speaker 3: go set up each alarm, and then we're just back
Speaker 3: to back that whole night. It's raining and we got
Speaker 3: our ponchos on. We're just chilling Pauls in the tent
Speaker 3: and just kind of keeping an eye. And then next
Speaker 3: thing we know, five o'clock hits Sons coming up and
Speaker 3: everything's chill out. It's just calm.
Speaker 4: So we're like, yeah, how many of them do you
Speaker 4: think that they were coming there?
Speaker 3: I think there are four to five. Honestly, I think
Speaker 3: they are four to five.
Speaker 4: So they scouted you first, figured out the perimeter, and
Speaker 4: then figured out how to get around the trip alarms
Speaker 4: to get close enough to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly in my opinion, and also too, to me,
Speaker 3: they went after the biggest threat and they're going to
Speaker 3: work their way down because teams like Team's like six three,
Speaker 3: like three hundred pounds, just big lumberjack dude, and uh yeah,
Speaker 3: so that's to me, So I think they were either
Speaker 3: I think they're I think they were a bigfoot because
Speaker 3: we were hearing weird noises, we were smelling nasty ass smells,
Speaker 3: and just just how fast they were moving. They ain't
Speaker 3: no human way possible someone can move that fast and
Speaker 3: brush ain't no way. So what kind of came to
Speaker 3: it was like, okay, suns up, let's.
Speaker 5: Just go do a perimeter check. Let's go, let's go
Speaker 5: see if we can find anything. Right, So we go
Speaker 5: past the triple arms.
Speaker 3: They literally carved out a path and it's about as
Speaker 3: big as an suv. Branch is broken and everything and
Speaker 3: you clearly see leaves kicked up and just he just
Speaker 3: a path. So we followed the path up the mountain
Speaker 3: and there's nothing but Applachia Mountains as far as you
Speaker 3: can see. So I'm like, yeah, they got big foot problems, hands.
Speaker 4: Up, hands down, crazy.
Speaker 3: So we're like, yeah, let's just get the freak out
Speaker 3: of here. So that was about a good couple miles
Speaker 3: away from just that lady's house up the logging road,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, it's really just a hop, skipping and
Speaker 3: jump for these things just to comb this area, you know,
Speaker 3: if they move that fast and they can coordinate, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, you got bigfoot problems out here, like
Speaker 3: no joke.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and I didn't realize. I mean, there was
Speaker 4: somebody else that we talked to that was talking about
Speaker 4: he has contact with a guy that has had a
Speaker 4: whole bunch of experiences, and he also said that they
Speaker 4: were highly intelligent beings. I didn't think when I think
Speaker 4: about bigfoots, I don't think that they were being that intelligent.
Speaker 4: But to be able to go unnoticed by so many
Speaker 4: people for so long, they clearly have to have some
Speaker 4: type of intelligence. But to be able to anticipate and
Speaker 4: test the perimeter and then scout it out and then
Speaker 4: plan out how to take take you guys out, it's
Speaker 4: a lot more intelligence to what I gave them credence for.
Speaker 2: I'll say that, yeah, yeah, I mean there's examples in
Speaker 2: the animal kingdom of animals that have a a team
Speaker 2: like workmanship that we didn't realize. For killer whales, for example,
Speaker 2: three killer whales will get together and Ramos. Fuck, that's
Speaker 2: the thing. Though we didn't realize how smart they were.
Speaker 2: We knew they were intelligent, fine, we didn't realize that
Speaker 2: they could coordinate and ram Iceberg to knock a seal
Speaker 2: off so they could all eat, and like this wasn't
Speaker 2: just a random thing they did. No, No, they've systemically
Speaker 2: gotten this down to a science. And it's like, all right,
Speaker 2: maybe there's something else here. So to say that the Sasquatches,
Speaker 2: you know, and I agree with you. Up until we
Speaker 2: really started talking more about them, I would have thought
Speaker 2: that they were relatively retarded, you know, and I don't
Speaker 2: want to be that guy. But like they look at it,
Speaker 2: you know, they look it. They whatever cut to. No,
Speaker 2: they very well might have their own endemic. Shit might
Speaker 2: even be a fucking what's it what's it called? Whenever
Speaker 2: you get till lepathy, they might have a telepathic language
Speaker 2: that they're speaking to each.
Speaker 4: Other that we can't hear and makes more sense.
Speaker 2: It's very possible.
Speaker 4: I mean, I have a girlfriend, Katie that heked the
Speaker 4: Appalachian Trail for shit. I think it was like a
Speaker 4: month and like three weeks she did. They like went
Speaker 4: really far. Yeah, she went really far. She never saw
Speaker 4: a single thing. She had her keeping contact with me
Speaker 4: and check and do you checkpoints the whole way. I
Speaker 4: think I was more stressed out for her and her
Speaker 4: husband at the time than they were. I was so
Speaker 4: worried about something happening to them, and they were just like,
Speaker 4: it'll be fine, it's so good and almost they never
Speaker 4: had any encounters with people or anything strange the entire
Speaker 4: time they heightd and they camped out there, they never
Speaker 4: came in. So but then I had a client that
Speaker 4: was one of my one of my clients for being
Speaker 4: her doula born and raised there and some of the
Speaker 4: stories that she told me, I was like, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm just I don't really have much of a dozen
Speaker 4: desire to go up there and go hunting for anything,
Speaker 4: because man, when you start hunting for things, they start
Speaker 4: hunting you. And that's just not my jam. I'll say that.
Speaker 4: But she would tell me weird stories about more or less,
Speaker 4: so I will say it was more people hunting people
Speaker 4: than anything else. But she said there is certain areas
Speaker 4: that the locals know not to go around and to
Speaker 4: go investigate or to look into what those sounds and
Speaker 4: sites are, and if things go missing, like their chickens
Speaker 4: go missing or whatever, she said, you just know to
Speaker 4: just leave it be. And I like kind of try
Speaker 4: to press her for more information, and she was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm just not going to talk about some of the
Speaker 4: stuff that goes on up there. She's like, I highly
Speaker 4: recommend that if you're not, like, if you're not born
Speaker 4: and raised in these certain areas, just never travel and
Speaker 4: just never go up there because you're not going to
Speaker 4: know what to look for, and you're going to find
Speaker 4: yourself in a position that you're likely going to die in.
Speaker 4: And I was like, just you know, count me out.
Speaker 4: I'm good, that is.
Speaker 2: Fair, But I mean the Appalachia gets a weird. I
Speaker 2: feel like it's a misnomer, to be honest with you, Like, granted, yeah,
Speaker 2: there is some there are certain spots of the Appalachian
Speaker 2: Mountains where it is hills have eyes. These people have
Speaker 2: been cut off from society for generations. Like that is
Speaker 2: a thing we are talking about, very very.
Speaker 4: Small pot she said, little pockets, is what she said.
Speaker 4: She said little areas. But she said the further out
Speaker 4: you get away from people, the more things are weird.
Speaker 4: She said, there's not She's like, some places you just
Speaker 4: have your normal drama and whatever, she said, but there's
Speaker 4: other places where you know that you just like you
Speaker 4: really don't go out there because you aren't really sure
Speaker 4: what you're gonna find. And I'm like, you know, I
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna poke the bear, so you don't got to.
Speaker 4: I'm good. I got kids, deraies Like maybe when I
Speaker 4: was younger, i'd be more adventurous, but I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4: I'm now with having kids. My main goal is to
Speaker 4: keep them alive. So it's met out here doing you know,
Speaker 4: adventurous things. But I think that's crazy though that I
Speaker 4: didn't think they were that intelligent. But the more people
Speaker 4: we talk to, the more I hear different stories. I
Speaker 4: think there's a lot more to the Bigfoots and and
Speaker 4: all that that they are a lot more intelligent, and
Speaker 4: they're doing something. I'm here. I just don't know what
Speaker 4: that something is because people constantly bring them up about
Speaker 4: you know, they're looking, they're investigating, they're doing something. It's like, well,
Speaker 4: what are they investigating for? What are they really here for?
Speaker 4: If they're having all these encounters with people, then they
Speaker 4: don't seem to be snatching people. So it's like, what
Speaker 4: are you here collecting? Yeah, I don't understand You're you're
Speaker 4: doing something. You're not just here for the ships and
Speaker 4: giggles of it. So what is it for? What do
Speaker 4: you think?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 4: They are they hunting people? Are they after specimens? Are
Speaker 4: they collecting data?
Speaker 6: I mean to me, okay, all group I'll group them
Speaker 6: all in the one right, So all crypto is in general,
Speaker 6: I think that.
Speaker 3: We're gonna go with eschatology.
Speaker 5: Okay, I think they're here for specific purpose, for a
Speaker 5: specific time. So if you look at Revelations six eight,
Speaker 5: it talks about how.
Speaker 3: On the rider on the.
Speaker 5: Basically on the on the on the green horse comes
Speaker 5: out and his name was death and hell falls with him,
Speaker 5: right the if you keep reading it in replation six,
Speaker 5: it talks about how the third of man will die
Speaker 5: from from from pestilent's disease.
Speaker 3: Starvation, wars and all that. Also a third of men
Speaker 3: will be killed by the beasts of the land. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so its just and you look it up in the
Speaker 3: in the Greek and all that beast and and the
Speaker 3: Hebrew is monster, right, you know it could it could
Speaker 3: be bears lines whatever. But I do believe God's going
Speaker 3: to use these things for a specific purpose for a
Speaker 3: specific time. Just to go rogue.
Speaker 2: Now that being said, bigfoots and and uh dog men
Speaker 2: and vampires, all these the Jersey devil, all this, they
Speaker 2: have their historical precedents way further back then. Because I'm
Speaker 2: with you, I believe that we are currently living at
Speaker 2: least in the beginning phases of the end times. I'm
Speaker 2: with you one hundred percent here. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I'll actually get to meet my grandchildren, I would very
Speaker 2: much like to. I cannot say with certainty that I
Speaker 2: believe that, but fine, whatever, I hope I'm wrong. But
Speaker 2: even that being said, these creatures have been around for centuries,
Speaker 2: and there's documentation of them for centuries. So what explain
Speaker 2: a little deeper what you mean by this that they're
Speaker 2: here for a specific time when they've been here since forever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so with that, okay, so if you look at
Speaker 3: them right, to me, I think, okay, during a before
Speaker 3: the flood happened, to me, it was like Lord of
Speaker 3: the Rings, bro Nephlow, crypt Is everywhere right then you yeah, yeah, man,
Speaker 3: all this stuff. And when everything happened, it's like modern
Speaker 3: ads took over and then these things just kind of
Speaker 3: just went underground for a while. And I think they're
Speaker 3: starting to peek back up, man, I really do. A
Speaker 3: lot of more signs are having a lot more people
Speaker 3: are getting killed, people missing sightings, you know, UFOs coming,
Speaker 3: like all these things are just ramping up. But also too,
Speaker 3: I can also correlate it to we have better technology. Now,
Speaker 3: we have information at the palm of our hand, like
Speaker 3: a live feed example, seeing the damn bombs drop right
Speaker 3: and Iran Like, you know, I could say too that
Speaker 3: I think they're they're being documented more because of the
Speaker 3: stuff we have now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know too, Like I don't think
Speaker 2: the Bigfoot are more prevalent now. I feel like people
Speaker 2: have internet and professional grade cameras in their pockets, so
Speaker 2: we have more footage of them now. But I don't
Speaker 2: believe that they are more They're more abundant now than
Speaker 2: ever before. If anything, I feel like they may be
Speaker 2: more scarce now than they were three hundred years ago,
Speaker 2: to be honest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, also too, we're we're also expanding as humanity, right,
Speaker 3: We're building homes and area is building neighborhoods and areas
Speaker 3: that we've never have done before, coming down the trees,
Speaker 3: like we're moving into their areas. And yeah, it's just
Speaker 3: a big mixture of that. Man.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I have a question, do you.
Speaker 4: Wow just went in my head. I'm sorry, I was
Speaker 4: thinking about bigfoots and all the different things, and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 4: what was I going to say? I'm so sorry, I forgot.
Speaker 4: Oh good, I'll think about it. Hang on, it's his
Speaker 4: way right out of my head.
Speaker 2: So with your hunting of the cryptids. What other cryptids
Speaker 2: have you hunted besides Bigfoot? In dogmen?
Speaker 3: It was that skinwalker incident.
Speaker 5: And as far as that, we had one called Operation
Speaker 5: gray where it was we thinking they were gray Lands basically.
Speaker 3: It was in it was in Alabama. We went, we
Speaker 3: actually made a truck out to Alabama because one of
Speaker 3: the guys on my team, Cochrane, him his dad and
Speaker 3: his nephew, that's a part of our team who's getting
Speaker 3: was getting activated right now. They went out to Alabama
Speaker 3: just to go just to go camp out. And they
Speaker 3: were in this Federal National Park and they had some
Speaker 3: missing time and some weird things happened to them, and
Speaker 3: they talked to some of the locals in that area
Speaker 3: is known for alien activity, known for UFOs and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, and they had a What he said was
Speaker 3: they think they had also like a pack of dog
Speaker 3: men surround him. I was like, are you sure, because
Speaker 3: to me, you'd be dead, bro. I don't know, yeah,
Speaker 3: but he's like, yeah, just what I heard what I saw.
Speaker 3: And then me and my dad seeing a bunch of
Speaker 3: stuff in the air, heard weird noises and seeing these
Speaker 3: lights and stuffing hovering above us. And we had missing
Speaker 3: time and I was like, oh, they got you, like
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 5: So we're like, okay, let's go, let's get the team,
Speaker 5: let's go back to that area. So we went and
Speaker 5: what the part the sucky part was it was in
Speaker 5: the middle of July, so it was freaking humid and hot,
Speaker 5: and we had a part the vehicle and then we had.
Speaker 3: A high in six miles.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we did that and then I think we
Speaker 3: had a I think we had like an aerial phenomenon
Speaker 3: happened us in my opinion, because that night we set
Speaker 3: up camp. We're gonna basically just chill out and just
Speaker 3: wait things that come to us or if nothing happens, hey,
Speaker 3: we're having a good campout. Man who cares. But in
Speaker 3: the middle of the night, me and Brian we're doing firewatch,
Speaker 3: drinking coffee. Braxton got up, he's part of the team too,
Speaker 3: and as we're talking, we're hearing something off in the distance.
Speaker 3: It almost sounds like a rocket or like a jet
Speaker 3: engine far away, and it's getting closer and closer and
Speaker 3: closer and closer, and it sounds like it's right on
Speaker 3: top of us. Dude. And as it's right on top
Speaker 3: of us. We're looking. It's windy, but the trees ain't moving.
Speaker 3: It's weird. And I go to my watch real quick
Speaker 3: and look and look at the time, just naturally, because
Speaker 3: I don't want to get freaking proped up my ass, right,
Speaker 3: I actually look at the time and it's pushing them
Speaker 3: like two thirty and then that that that sound lasts
Speaker 3: for a good of thirty seconds, and we're yelling at
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 4: You freaking hear that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, we're trying to look up with
Speaker 3: you know, just with our flashlights nothing, and then it
Speaker 3: just shuts off. Everything comes back in. You hear the crickets,
Speaker 3: you hear the you know, you hear the you know,
Speaker 3: the freaking leaves and stuff moving. And mind you, the
Speaker 3: two other ones, three other ones were actually asleep, still asleep,
Speaker 3: So we're like, what the.
Speaker 4: Hell was that of us slept through all of it.
Speaker 3: They just slept through all of it.
Speaker 4: So as soon as that fan even goes off, I
Speaker 4: am immediately awake, like without failing it like stops, I'm awakeep. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and there some of us aren't. Some of us aren't,
Speaker 4: like you know, demonic and sleep in the silence, you.
Speaker 2: Know, the way the Lord, and shit, who the.
Speaker 4: Hell's You're not a Southerner either. I'm more sudden than
Speaker 4: you are at this point.
Speaker 2: When it comes to fan.
Speaker 4: The fans is definitely a thing for.
Speaker 2: People who have restless minds. You know how at peace
Speaker 2: I am with my life. I laid down, I go
Speaker 2: to sleep because I'm not worried about it if I
Speaker 2: wake up or not. The Lord's got me. I'm chilling.
Speaker 4: It's a noise, man, I can't handle it. It's so silent.
Speaker 4: Just see you too much.
Speaker 3: But also think they'll also think it's because you're a mom. True,
Speaker 3: you're up, you know like the kids.
Speaker 4: You know, Oh, I can actually I'll wake up from
Speaker 4: the fan. So the fan how I have is strategic.
Speaker 4: In my room, I will literally wake up from someone
Speaker 4: walking in front of the fan because I hear the
Speaker 4: difference in the sounds. And that's how I know when
Speaker 4: I know one of my kids is in the room,
Speaker 4: because I like, what's crazy is like I have actually,
Speaker 4: like one of my ears is pretty damaged and so
Speaker 4: I don't have that good of hearing actually anymore. And
Speaker 4: I have constant, like really high pitch ringing in my ears.
Speaker 4: And so for me, the silence actually physically hurts a
Speaker 4: lot too, But no, I use the sound to hear
Speaker 4: my kids, especially when they were a little bitty like
Speaker 4: they would they were stealth man and so when it
Speaker 4: they would walk them from the fan, I would hear it,
Speaker 4: and somehow I'd just wake me up. But I'm way
Speaker 4: more attuned to the noises in my house, like every
Speaker 4: little thing, I'm awake.
Speaker 2: Look, I got it.
Speaker 4: And I do parameter checks in my house too sometimes
Speaker 4: because they get really bad anxiety about like I'll have
Speaker 4: like extreme hypervigilance and so I'll be awake because of
Speaker 4: what's going on outside. So I just gotta like check
Speaker 4: all my kids. Oh I do I sweep the house,
Speaker 4: you know. I'm just like okay, you know, and I'll
Speaker 4: feel better about it.
Speaker 2: I got tonightis because I didn't wear ear pro when
Speaker 2: way too many ranges. I got the ringing NonStop. I'm
Speaker 2: basically legally deaf. Yeah, the ringing is my white noise
Speaker 2: machine Raven. I don't know it.
Speaker 4: Like, actually, like this one hurts a lot. My right
Speaker 4: one hurts like actually hurts all the time and stuff.
Speaker 2: But you would die on my I go on a
Speaker 2: I don't retreat every year. You would actually sounds like.
Speaker 4: It sounds just I would sleep outside because it's so
Speaker 4: freaking loud outside here.
Speaker 2: Okay, but go ahead and sleep in August. Oh, I
Speaker 2: side in Louisiana with your with your Oregonian ass. Let
Speaker 2: me know that works out for you.
Speaker 4: I can sleep in the heat, thank you. I can
Speaker 4: sleep in the heat, just fine.
Speaker 2: Heat. It's the cicadas, the mosquitos, You crazy, No.
Speaker 4: No, no, I was gonna say. I was like, I
Speaker 4: got to sleep in a tent to make sure I
Speaker 4: don't get eaten alive by the mosquitos. Was like, because,
Speaker 4: but the cicadas, they're so freaking loud. I could fall
Speaker 4: asleep through that any day of the week. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: oh yeah. I like sleeping outside. I mean I've always
Speaker 4: liked it. When I grew up, I had a double
Speaker 4: like French doors, and so you know, it's so cold
Speaker 4: that there's not a lot of bugs that come in stuff.
Speaker 4: And I grew up on a farm, and so I
Speaker 4: keep my doors open, and just you know, I wasn't
Speaker 4: super afraid of anything back then that much until we
Speaker 4: had like this damn cougar that kept trying to, you know,
Speaker 4: get me and everybody. So that damn thing. I don't
Speaker 4: know how it survived as long as it did. It's
Speaker 4: I feel like it's still alive. It's like one of
Speaker 4: those things that never died. But chickens, well, so no,
Speaker 4: not the chickens couldn't get to them because my dad
Speaker 4: is like psycho when it comes to the prison that
Speaker 4: is the chicken coop because it was like buried. We
Speaker 4: buried it eight feet into the ground, had concrete pillars
Speaker 4: all around it. We buried it and had two types
Speaker 4: of mess. Oh no, Like nothing could get into the
Speaker 4: coop like at all. So our chickens never got got
Speaker 4: they were so super safe. All the people around me
Speaker 4: had issues with their their animals and stuff, but no,
Speaker 4: my chickens. That was like Fort Knox of a chicken
Speaker 4: coop and it had like custom ac and it had
Speaker 4: a heating seem Oh no, like it costs us Like
Speaker 4: I feel like it costs us like eighteen hundred two
Speaker 4: thousand dollars to spend and we spent like four weeks
Speaker 4: building this stand thing. We built it from the ground up.
Speaker 4: It's like an actual house. We painted it. It had
Speaker 4: like shutters on it, and.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be that guy. But tell me
Speaker 2: more about your quote unquote southernness. Do you have you
Speaker 2: ever seen my brother's chicken coop?
Speaker 4: I don't want to see it because I feel some
Speaker 4: type of way about chickens and people that like mistreat
Speaker 4: them and don't have no nice houses with them.
Speaker 2: So no, no, no, Like the chickens pretty much roam
Speaker 2: the yard. They yard pimps, like actual.
Speaker 4: I mean I had mine, Mine roam the yard, well
Speaker 4: I did. I don't have any right now, But they
Speaker 4: go back into their coop and at night and they
Speaker 4: get locked up.
Speaker 2: His coop's got wheels on it.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, a lot of people have those.
Speaker 2: They moved around of concrete in the ground. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck are you protecting them against? Like, I know,
Speaker 2: we minxes are a thing. We got dynamite for that.
Speaker 3: Man, I was thinking of grab boys.
Speaker 4: I did. I did love trimmers a little bit too
Speaker 4: much as a kid, I'll say that definitely for sure.
Speaker 3: It's not like.
Speaker 4: I mean, well, kids like the raking all sorts of
Speaker 4: stuff that would dig under and try to dig and
Speaker 4: so my dad was just like nope, wan and messing around,
Speaker 4: so he like dug it all away and it's still
Speaker 4: standing today, Like it's still a complete functional right now.
Speaker 4: It's withstood everything I think it would, like we're standing
Speaker 4: a freaking volcanic blast because that thing ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So anyway, so so to circle back, I
Speaker 2: did have a couple of questions as far as your
Speaker 2: personal beliefs, So rout the rip flat earth around Earth.
Speaker 2: I'll just start off from the top and work our
Speaker 2: way down here.
Speaker 4: I don't just spit out my damn coffee.
Speaker 3: If it's if it's flat, like I could see them
Speaker 3: hiding it from us, but I really don't carry the way.
Speaker 2: I'm cool with it fair enough. Well, I think Raven
Speaker 2: Lee and I are both round earthers. Although I give
Speaker 2: respect to the flat earth community. They've blown the lid
Speaker 2: off of a lot of things. But just you know,
Speaker 2: physics are real. So but but whatever.
Speaker 4: Alien Royce sent me, though, roy sent me a thing
Speaker 4: that was like everybody else is getting there, like kudos
Speaker 4: to having you know your conspiracy correct. And then the
Speaker 4: flat earth community is like, why yeah.
Speaker 3: I like that one where they said this is this
Speaker 3: documentary and this rounder was making fun of this flat
Speaker 3: earth because the flat ears at a conference, He's like,
Speaker 3: hey guys, yeah, hey guys, we have brothers and sisters
Speaker 3: all around the world.
Speaker 2: It was like, what do you mean around?
Speaker 4: I honestly don't carry their way, Like I like listening
Speaker 4: to the conversation Flat Earth, and I like hearing their
Speaker 4: their points and at this point like cool, it doesn't
Speaker 4: really bother me none. But I think it's still funny
Speaker 4: that they're kind of like.
Speaker 2: So, do you believe that space is real?
Speaker 3: I hope? So?
Speaker 2: Okay, I really do I hope. So man, next question, aliens,
Speaker 2: what do you believe about them? Now? I'll let me
Speaker 2: rephrase this sentient life from other planets slash galaxies, slash
Speaker 2: solar systems or whatever else, like actual living creatures and
Speaker 2: more than just like you know, a two molecule bacteria cell,
Speaker 2: like actual living creatures. You believe in these?
Speaker 3: Yes? And yeah, yes I do. Like I said, I
Speaker 3: go about a biblically. So the Bible line talks about
Speaker 3: what's here on Earth, right, Yeah, it only tells us
Speaker 3: that that's it. Yeah, So I wouldn't put it past
Speaker 3: some like we could have, because the universe is huge.
Speaker 3: It just keeps expanding. Who's to say, like, we don't
Speaker 3: have you know this? To me, it's very arrogant for
Speaker 3: us to think we're the only ones here.
Speaker 2: I agree. So many people are like, oh, I don't
Speaker 2: believe in aliens, but I believe in demons. And I've
Speaker 2: always been like, bro, why why are you using those
Speaker 2: terms interchangeably? What the fuck are we talking about? But
Speaker 2: these people are like convinced. So you're of the belief
Speaker 2: that the extra tresh your life could be also created
Speaker 2: by the Creator.
Speaker 3: I think it can be a bit of both. You
Speaker 3: ever heard the project?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, so that's kind of like, Okay, he's got
Speaker 5: a point because, like I said, going back to it,
Speaker 5: like you've had abduction and stop by people calling the
Speaker 5: name of Jesus.
Speaker 3: But I think it could be both.
Speaker 5: You know, some of them could hijacket some of them
Speaker 5: are legit freaking aliens, you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh, interdimensional beings your thoughts?
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, okay.
Speaker 2: So we're talking about like a six dimensional being that
Speaker 2: for whatever reason comes down to the third dimension to
Speaker 2: fuck with us sometimes for whatever reason.
Speaker 3: Nothing would so freaking surprise me and be like yeah.
Speaker 2: Figures, okay, fair, Now, do you believe that these are
Speaker 2: angels and demons or very similar to the interplanetary conversation.
Speaker 2: It could be both.
Speaker 3: It could be both. It just depends on what's going
Speaker 3: on at the time. What are they here for, what
Speaker 3: are their motives, what's their mo You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: No, I agree, So now follow a question to that.
Speaker 2: So the aliens, let's say, aside from Project Bluebeam, where
Speaker 2: the government puts up holograms in the sky and makes
Speaker 2: everybody believe that aliens are actually happening, right, if we
Speaker 2: as a species were to be visited by an extraterrestrial race,
Speaker 2: let's just leave it as open ended and politically correct
Speaker 2: as I possibly can here, and it's understood this is
Speaker 2: not a hoax, It's not a game. These are actual
Speaker 2: aliens that are coming down the whole thing. Would you
Speaker 2: personally take this as a net positive or a net negative?
Speaker 2: I understand your you know, intent has a lot to
Speaker 2: do with it. We got to see how things shake out.
Speaker 2: But just off the rip, would you be the type
Speaker 2: to grab your gun or would you be the type
Speaker 2: to go and try to like shake its hand. What
Speaker 2: are you leaning towards?
Speaker 3: I think I would look at it from a distance.
Speaker 3: I would see what other people do first, I want
Speaker 3: to go right in, like, hey, what's going on? My
Speaker 3: name is Timmy. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't go in guns and blaze, and I would
Speaker 5: just kind of watch it from a distance and just
Speaker 5: observe and let people do it for me, and then
Speaker 5: I would see the actions of it and then dictate
Speaker 5: my protocols on what I would do.
Speaker 2: That's fair. I'm always been with the belief of like
Speaker 2: just straight up light it up, just because just because
Speaker 2: if an alien entity has got the tech to make
Speaker 2: its way to us, I can't imagine they're here for
Speaker 2: positivity and sharing of light and all these things. There
Speaker 2: are some people that believe that we're gonna get visited
Speaker 2: by like the space hippies. I just I can't see it.
Speaker 2: I think it'd be very more akin to Cortes meeting
Speaker 2: the Aztecs and like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm not gonna lie though. I'll be standing
Speaker 3: at a distance with all my gear ready to go,
Speaker 3: for sure, ready to go.
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be scientists, like I think it's
Speaker 4: gonna be multiple teams. I think they'll obviously have a
Speaker 4: security team, I think, but I think initially if they're
Speaker 4: not coming to write out the gate, try to conquer.
Speaker 4: I believe it would be. The scientists like their version
Speaker 4: of that, so that they can study, observe, gather data
Speaker 4: because data is the key in everything. You need the
Speaker 4: data to understand whatever it is that you're researching. So
Speaker 4: if you're wanting to research a planet, you need to
Speaker 4: have a security team that will keep them alive, and
Speaker 4: you need to have the scientists be able to collect
Speaker 4: whatever it is data that they're looking for to understand
Speaker 4: the organisms, the species, what the environment is like, is
Speaker 4: it hospitable for these types of creatures? Is it going
Speaker 4: to kill them right out the gate? They need all
Speaker 4: of this information before they can even decide to make
Speaker 4: the push to conquer.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So when it comes to alien conversation, because you're both
Speaker 4: you know, very Christian stuff, what does another conversation like,
Speaker 4: some people get really kind of weird about it and
Speaker 4: things because it does, like you said, this is all
Speaker 4: we know is for this planet and what's going on
Speaker 4: with us? Why do you think that is? Like, why
Speaker 4: do you think that it's just this knowledge was just
Speaker 4: for here? Why not if you're gonna tell us about
Speaker 4: heaven and hell and all these things, why not tell
Speaker 4: us about everything else that's in the universe, or at
Speaker 4: least give somewhat of a glimpse of like, hey, you're
Speaker 4: not alone. Hey there's other people that I had, like
Speaker 4: pet project planets that I did other stuff with, Like,
Speaker 4: you know, why not share this kind of information? Do you?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: What is your thoughts on that?
Speaker 3: I think also too, like the more knowledge you know,
Speaker 3: the more.
Speaker 5: It's almost like philosophy, right, People have a belief in
Speaker 5: something and then they get in philosophy and it totally
Speaker 5: wrecks everything they got and they don't know what to choose.
Speaker 3: It's like too much information, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I think if you give way too much information to someone,
Speaker 3: it's just like they don't know to go left to
Speaker 3: go right, and you know I and that's what it's just.
Speaker 3: It's just for like security reason. In my opinion, I
Speaker 3: do believe when we die, well, no, everything will be perfect.
Speaker 3: We'll know everything throughout the cosmos on you know, why
Speaker 3: he hit it from us or why didn't tell us
Speaker 3: or all that. But as far as that, I think
Speaker 3: it's because we have so much to deal with here
Speaker 3: and to work with here. I think that would be
Speaker 3: an overload of information in my opinion, Yeah, for people
Speaker 3: to digest like this is nuts.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, So I've always taken it that the Bible
Speaker 2: is a basic guidebook, right, yeah, it's it's yes, there
Speaker 2: is a lot of historical things that you can fact
Speaker 2: check within it and all the things. It is not
Speaker 2: the all encompassing knowledge of the earth, like, for instance,
Speaker 2: the New Like just to your point that you just
Speaker 2: brought up ravenly, there are close to eight thousand verses
Speaker 2: in the New Testament, right, we're just under it's seven
Speaker 2: nine hundred and fifty seven slash thirty eight depending on
Speaker 2: the version of the Bible you're reading whatever, So damn
Speaker 2: here eight thousand verses in the New Testament. Hell is
Speaker 2: only they mentioned one hundred and sixty two times in
Speaker 2: the New Testament. Why is that? It's not that it's
Speaker 2: not important, it's that that's not something that we should
Speaker 2: really like be focusing on. That's a thing that we
Speaker 2: should know about, but it's not something that we need
Speaker 2: like harbor on. And I know so many churches would
Speaker 2: say the opposite, and obviously we need you going to hate.
Speaker 2: That's not what the Bible says, though, we need to
Speaker 2: focus on what the word says, the same.
Speaker 4: Way that the Bible comes to the New Testament. Though
Speaker 4: people chose what goes into the New Testament.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, that argument could be made about people deciding
Speaker 2: what goes in the Old Testament too. I am of
Speaker 2: the belief that the Bible is the truly divinely inspired words.
Speaker 4: That's just why I'm not saying that it's not. I'm
Speaker 4: saying that those group of men that got together and
Speaker 4: picked what went in it, what if the actual information
Speaker 4: about what is out there was a part of that
Speaker 4: information and they selectively chose to remove those thinks and
Speaker 4: hide them on their own human basis.
Speaker 2: I hear you what.
Speaker 3: You're saying, because a lot of that's popping up too,
Speaker 3: with the Ethiopian Bible, the Geneva Bible, the King James Bible, Nuking,
Speaker 3: all this stuff, so many different you know, and I
Speaker 3: hear you.
Speaker 2: But yeah, even with that being said, there's okay, we're
Speaker 2: talking like versional differences between the Bible. Yeah, there is
Speaker 2: probably five hundred thousand versions of the Bible. But we
Speaker 2: should also mention the fact that if John is spelled.
Speaker 7: John or jo HHN or JOHNN, those are three whole
Speaker 7: separate versions of the Bible, even if everything is completely
Speaker 7: the same except for the spelling differences.
Speaker 2: First off, so we're not.
Speaker 4: Talking about spelling difference, and we're talking about removal of
Speaker 4: actual books and messages that were apparently divine and that
Speaker 4: we're sent down for a reason, and then man chose
Speaker 4: to selectively remove things. And that's a big conversation difference
Speaker 4: between verbiage and actual books.
Speaker 2: And I was, I was getting to that point next,
Speaker 2: there is almost no data to show that things were
Speaker 2: omitted from the Bible. Now, a lot of people would
Speaker 2: argue at that point, but the actual original scrolls so
Speaker 2: many times over, have been found. As far as the
Speaker 2: New Testament is concerned, I understand, we don't have the
Speaker 2: original tourist scrolls and all these things. As far as
Speaker 2: the original Gospels, Paul's Letters to Timothy, Paul's letters to
Speaker 2: the Church of Ephesus, all these the original translations have
Speaker 2: been found and there's nothing omitted. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: the Dead Sea Scrolls confirmed that even further. The Book
Speaker 2: of Isaiah, for instance, and that's Old Testament. But you
Speaker 2: look at the King James version, and yes, this was
Speaker 2: the Greek to Latin to English translation or excuse me,
Speaker 2: Hebrew to Greek to Latin to English translation. There's got
Speaker 2: to be something missing in the translation. The Dead Sea
Speaker 2: Scrolls confirmed beyond any shadow of any doubt there was.
Speaker 2: It's like a ninety nine ninety eight to ninety nine
Speaker 2: percent one to one translation from Hebrew to English from
Speaker 2: King James. So with that being said, I know a
Speaker 2: lot of people are gonna be like, well, it's not
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. If you got a glass of water
Speaker 2: that's ninety nine percent full, would you call that glass fuller?
Speaker 2: So just throwing this out now, we're looking at all
Speaker 2: the translation issues and all the quote unquote omissions from
Speaker 2: the New Testament. There is very very very very little
Speaker 2: things that could have arguably been omitted. Now we're talking
Speaker 2: about certain books like the Ethiopian Bible, for instance, there's
Speaker 2: a couple of books in that Bible that are not
Speaker 2: in not even just the King James, in most of
Speaker 2: the Bibles, like for instance, the Book of Enoch, the
Speaker 2: Book of Jubilee and these types of things. There's reasons
Speaker 2: for that, and I myself would like for the Book
Speaker 2: of Enoch to be a part of the in canon,
Speaker 2: especially because it's referenced by people in the New Testament,
Speaker 2: so it's like a thing that needs to be talked about.
Speaker 2: But there's also a ton of things that are referenced
Speaker 2: in the Bible that aren't in the Bible.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: There is lineages that are mentioned, there's kings that are mentioned,
Speaker 2: but we don't have the entire history of that kingdom.
Speaker 2: In that one king, it's mentioned for that footnote, I
Speaker 2: believe as far as and I'm not saying they're not important.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, as far as salvation is concerned, right, as
Speaker 2: far as us getting our soul to Heaven, certain things
Speaker 2: are critical, certain things are not critical.
Speaker 3: The major the majors, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Exactly, the Book of Enoch talking about the Nephelom and shit,
Speaker 2: is it important? Yeah? Is it something that we need
Speaker 2: to base our faith off of.
Speaker 3: Not so much.
Speaker 2: And the same thing could be said about a lot
Speaker 2: of the quote unquote mistranslations when it comes to the
Speaker 2: Bible from the original to now, a lot of them
Speaker 2: are It's it's mostly mostly spelling issues and a translation
Speaker 2: issue that the original intent got through regardless. Ye, And
Speaker 2: I've done a fair amount of studying into that. So
Speaker 2: that's as far as it goes as far as the
Speaker 2: Bible is meant to be a not even a rubric.
Speaker 2: I would say, it is a basic instruction manual to
Speaker 2: teach you how to get your soul. How we got
Speaker 2: to this point. And it doesn't tell you everything. It
Speaker 2: doesn't tell you what oxygen is, but you need that
Speaker 2: shit to breathe. It's it gives you what you need
Speaker 2: to know for your life. It doesn't tell you all
Speaker 2: of the knowledge of everything.
Speaker 3: Ever, Yeah, yeah, and that and that's exactly why it
Speaker 3: brought to that point to where you asked about aliens
Speaker 3: and all that stuff like in reality, if that's the reason,
Speaker 3: why then because there's too much information and what we
Speaker 3: need to focus on is what is Jesus tell us
Speaker 3: to focus on, right, you know, to preach the Gospel,
Speaker 3: to go out, you know, make disciples among the nations,
Speaker 3: you know, to love your neighbor, to you know, just
Speaker 3: to yeah, you know, just to do what you gotta do.
Speaker 3: And yeah, that's control the controllables.
Speaker 2: Exactly, you know. And especially when we get to like
Speaker 2: the portions of the Bible, they are more uh uh
Speaker 2: prophetic and very open to interpretation. I don't believe those
Speaker 2: are are salvational issues. These are then why the Book
Speaker 2: of Revelations and the Book of easy Quel and all
Speaker 2: these things are so hotly debated even to this day
Speaker 2: because no one knows one hundred percent and like find
Speaker 2: to these things. But also I don't believe that it's
Speaker 2: so important to where Wait a minute, you think that
Speaker 2: when in Revelation where it talks about the seven headed
Speaker 2: beast with ten horns, you don't think it's actually gonna
Speaker 2: be a sea monster You're going to hail like that?
Speaker 3: B Yeah, I know that is not that Christ minor issues,
Speaker 3: you know, right, well, the major issues love your neighbor,
Speaker 3: except Jesus Christ, create disciples, you know, push love and
Speaker 3: all that. You know. Just yeah, that's the main things miners.
Speaker 3: Is the earth flat? Who freaking cares? Who cares? Is
Speaker 3: there aliens beyond their hope? Well, who cares? You know?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What are we here for?
Speaker 2: Same thing? As far as flat Earth, the Bible's got
Speaker 2: like seventy thousand verses in it or something along those lines,
Speaker 2: like Old and New Testament. It's mentioned possibly about the
Speaker 2: Earth being flat like two hundred times. Yeah, we're talking
Speaker 2: about a fraction of a fraction here. Clearly that's not
Speaker 2: that critical. We don't need to be focused on that.
Speaker 2: That's yeah. I know a lot of people would get
Speaker 2: mad at me for that, and that's fine. It's fine.
Speaker 2: I'm used to the haters. It is what it is.
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