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Speaker 10: That is very very catchy. I like that A lot
that has got a light and that is crying. Caleb,
who is here with us in studio. Welcome everybody. You
have just entered our number three numerow trace of Matt
Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of
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in Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Jenny is here of course
at the news table President Act and today is Saturday,
July twelve, twenty twenty five. Welcome everybody, and we have
in studio with us, so Crime calab is here. Hello,
good morning, Welcome to the show, and of course returning
to the show, Darling Hill. Hello, he Should we call
you Darling Hill? Should we call you Kate? What should
we call you?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 11: I don't mind Darling Hill, I don't mind representation.
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, I've had some people.
Speaker 11: It's kind of funny. People started calling me Darling, which
kind of threw oh really off. Yeah yeah, yeah, I
didn't hate it though, I thought it was kind of.
Speaker 10: Cute, right right, So thanks not the worst thing. And
of course you've you've been doing a lot with the
listening room at Prayers of Nature. Yeah we should, oh
you know what too. Before we go any further, let
me hold this up for people watching online. I'll hold
up this cool sticker you brought us from the listening
room at Prayers of Nature.
Speaker 11: Thank you.
Speaker 10: So for those who don't know, refresh our memory, on
our memories collectively, on what that is what you do there.
Speaker 11: Well, I do want to give a quick shout out
to the artist of that picture you've shown is my
friend Victoria. Her business name is actually I Have Ethereal.
She's a tattoo artist in Nashua. She's located under the
Riverwalk Cafe. She's fabulous and we just released a couple
of new images that she did as well yesterday.
Speaker 2: So that's cool.
Speaker 11: She's been working with me since we started. So I
just wanted to create a little space for musicians to
come and share their art in a way that is
nurturing and celebrating who they are as I did it
years ago out of my home, but I kind of
took a break and as you know, I met you
after I came back from Nashville and elevated a little
bit and wanted to share that elevation with the artists
that I work with locally. So create this small little
space and Caleb will be number eleven.
Speaker 10: So excellent.
Speaker 11: I started with one. I was like, I'm just going
to do one show month. That's it. I don't want
to overdo it. I got the small little art studio,
and then it turned into, well, since I have the
gear out, I'll do two, you know, like a Friday Saturday.
And then it turned into oh, I'll do it Thursday,
Friday Saturday.
Speaker 10: So yeah, it's.
Speaker 11: Still once a month, but it's usually three shows in
one weekend. Okay, So yes, Caleb is number eleven.
Speaker 2: Oh, very good.
Speaker 11: And I've had the fortune of having people from not
just New Hampshire, but getting the attention from people from
Maine and New York and Connecticut basically a little New England. Yeah, nugget.
And once they hear the deal, they either decide to
come be a part of it, or they get put
on a waiting list because I am fully booked.
Speaker 10: So oh that's good. Yeah that's a good problem now right.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's pretty interesting. I think people, you know, I'm
a musician myself, and I do understand. I try to
accommodate what I would like. Yeah, so people who see that,
I think it attracts them. And Caleb reached out after
Dan Blakesley swung through, Oh yeah, which was real helpful
to I don't know if you've heard of him.
Speaker 10: I interviewed Dan Blakesley a long time ago. Yeah, yeah,
a lot, because he's been around a while, A long
time ago. Wow, he hasn't stopped. So yeah, I'm really
excited to have another main artist. Or is he from Maine.
He's from me, So I really like what Maine's doing.
So New Hampshire pay attention. Yes, well, what is Main
doing that we're not doing here?
Speaker 11: I think they're just weirder. Man that they're just weirder.
I think it's further north, there's less bs up there,
there's something going on closer to the sky.
Speaker 10: I think interesting, interesting.
Speaker 11: It's funkier, it's weirder, it's spookier. I think they embrace
that a little more so than in this area. I
think here is from my perception from what I've seen,
is the local music scene here seems to really hyper
fixated on like pop country or folk or like like
a heavy metal vibe and even some punk. But I
haven't seen this like cool spooky rockability. I don't even
know what to call you sometimes, like I know what
you are, but trying to articulate it to other people.
What Caleb does is well.
Speaker 10: Yeah, because we were talking off air about how and
I was saying, Caleb, how I don't like listening to
your and we should tell the audience too, not everything
that you obviously as an instrumental. We opened with an
instrumental track, but we're going to play some. I love
your voice, so I'm looking forward to playing some of
the other stuff too. But I can't think of anybody
around here who really sounds like you and what you're doing.
But but so, what do you think it is?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 10: What's different about where your area is?
Speaker 2: Someone sent me a photo the other day that said
inspirational western sci fi interesting okay, like from a library,
and I was like, oh, now I know what to
call myself. I love it Spaghetti western, maybe a little
spaghetti Western rockabilly country blues music I really like and
that I've been writing for a long time and I've
played in bands playing music I've written and I'm proud of,
you know, every band I've been in. But I moved
to Auburn, Maine after living in Portland for over twenty years,
and Auburn, Maine's a little more central Maine, and I
didn't really know anyone up there, and getting a band
together was just kind of a pain. And then setting
up practices in Portland with people willing to play, it
was just scheduling stuff. So I just started playing on
my own, just using my feet and my arms and
my voice, and I realized it's a lot less hassle,
and it's a means to an end. I can play
my songs and I can agree to play anywhere at
the drop of a hat. I'll have to run anything
by a committee. I can do anything I want.
Speaker 10: That's been a consistent theme on the show over the
years with guests who are doing a solo thing who
used to play in bands. Right, it's like, oh, this
is actually easier logistically.
Speaker 2: Oh it is. It's easier logistically, and you know, I would.
I'm not against it. I love to someday have a
band to play with. It's a lot I love playing
standing up, yeah, but it's just, you know, money's a thing.
And I don't want to pay anybody. I don't want
to play without getting paid if they're playing, if they're
backing somebody up, and I get that. Yeah, But for
now I'm having a blast just doing it myself. Yeah,
packing up the car sometimes I bring my dog yep,
you know. And I could go on weekend tours and yeah,
I don't. If I can do it, I can do it.
I don't have to run it by anybody.
Speaker 10: Yeah. Yeah, you miss Portland at all, because that's a
great that's a great scene in Portland. There's always a
lot of good bands around. Sure, seems like, but you
don't miss it.
Speaker 2: No, Now I miss a memory of what Portland was.
It's not what it was, and I mean it's a
great place, but just having lived there. When I lived there,
I was joking with somebody that there were five restaurants. Really,
oh there were maybe ten. Yeah, and it was you
could afford to live there. It was dirtier, people were
maybe a little there was they were more rude, Okay,
it was. It was just a little more fun. And uh,
you know that parable when they talk about the frog
and boiling water, that doesn't realize it's boiling until it's
too late. That's kind of how I felt while I
was living there. I was this water is it's boiling?
Speaker 10: Interesting?
Speaker 2: I played? I mean, I'm playing there. Tonight I'll be
at Geno's. And so I'm there a couple of times
a month for shows or to see friends bands play,
and I have a lot of friends that live there.
But I don't miss living there.
Speaker 10: Okay, okay, Oh that's good. It's good that you're happy
where you are. Oh yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: I love Yeah, I like river Folk.
Speaker 10: Now do you think that's influenced what you do creatively?
Like or do you think if you were doing a
solo thing in Portland you'd be doing the same thing.
Speaker 2: Or I'd probably be doing the same thing. But I think, uh,
you know, being up there, I wouldn't say I'm isolated,
but definitely left to my own devices. More as far
as like music again, like playing alone, I'm just I
bounce ideas off the wall and back to me.
Speaker 10: Exactly. So what drew you to performing at Prayers of
Nature or the listening room? Rather at listening room at
present look.
Speaker 2: Like a cool It looked like a cool place. I mean,
I'm I playing alone it's a hustle. I'm I'm. I
send out at least one email or message or something
a day to somebody, and you know, sometimes you hear back.
Sometimes you hear back and there's enthusiasms. Sometimes you hear
back and you have to plead your case to people
of why you should be there to play. But in
this in this case, I sent an inquiry and I
got a lot of enthusiasm back, which right there, it's like, yeah, okay,
I want to play at this place. Yea, And yeah
it just looked cool and I'd never been to Wilton,
New Hampshire.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, you probably heard that a lot.
Speaker 11: Right, try to find the place tucked away. It's definitely
what you call a hidden jem. It's a it's in
an art mill. So it's pretty cool once you find it.
Once people discover it, they're like, oh cool, you know, yeah,
it's different. It makes sense so that you would find
a weird little nook, right right.
Speaker 10: Has it changed much by the way since you opened?
Because because I think if I remember correctly, so, you
had been on the show when you were either about
to start or you had just started it.
Speaker 11: I mean Tyler with us, Yeah, we just started it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you hadn't had it yet, okay.
Speaker 11: Right right now, I've had ten of them since I've
last been here. Yeah, I thought six months have gone
by already. And I was like, well, come to an update.
And then I booked him and I was like, you
want to come with me?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 11: It's like if anything, can play your music and just
talk about you, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, so he was.
Speaker 11: I was happy that he's physically with today.
Speaker 10: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 11: But I guess what's changed is my commitment to making
sure that the sound is as good as it can
be in the lighting, and because I'm recognizing that the
online presence is really important. Absolutely, and it's been helpful
to me and exciting because I didn't really have much
optimism when I started. Really I didn't. I hadn't been
in the booking a venue scene in about three years.
I had taken a break. I had taken a break
because I was burnt out. And I'd done it for
other people, I'd done it for myself. I'd done it
as a musician. I'd done it as a venue. Yeah,
I've done it as a nonprofit. I had done it.
I did it, and I was like, I'm done, and
that's when I took a break and focused on my
own music. So when I jump back into supporting other artists,
it was a little apprehensive because obviously it comes with
a lot of drama and a lot of egos and
I have to manage them and it affects my relationships,
and I just was went in really apprehensively and really guarded.
But the more I did it, every show I had,
I was like, yes, this is what I want. I
love this part of meeting such unique artists and being
able to support them and just making them feel good
about themselves made me feel good about myself. And I
think that finally shone through in the social media and
it resonated. So I think that's what changed for me personally.
And I wish I could do it every weekend, but
I wouldn't have the fuel probably to do it. So
it's good. I just I got to set that boundary
with three and just make people wait, I guess if
they want to come do it.
Speaker 10: So you mentioned too, you're hearing from people. It sounds
like you're hearing from people all over the Northeast.
Speaker 8: At this point.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yes, you know. And it's a bummer too, because
the second I recognize they're a little too far away.
I'm gonna have to have the conversation with them about
how we don't offer a guarantee. I'm pretty transparent about that. Yeah,
but I will I I will hustle for you and
if you meet me halfway, we will do what we can.
And I don't take a cut unless the room even
sells out, so like, I'm not here to take your money.
I'm really here to share your art. So yeah, for
some people though, that John is just a little too far,
you know, as much as they want to come play,
they're like, oh, man, I can't do it. But you know,
I will say too something Caleb touched on and then
I'll shut up. Is as a musician myself, whenever I
reach out and try to get bookings, not getting a response,
I would rather get a no oh. I would rather
get oh, we're booked, or you know, I'd rather get
some kind of like confirmation that you at least saw
my stuff right, and like, if it's not for you, you
don't think it's a good fit, that's fine. But I
get so irritated when I don't even get a response,
So I try to at least respond to people. Even
though I get a lot of inquiries, I will respond
to you.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I will.
Speaker 11: Sometimes it's a no and for whatever reason, but I
will let you know so you can move about with
your bookings accordingly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there a.
Speaker 10: Point where you started to feel like, oh, this is
really going to work, or this is going to catch
on more than I expected.
Speaker 11: I was surprised by the response. For musicians, I want
a more solid patronage, but that will just happen over time. Sure,
I recognize that, and bringing people in that aren't normally
from here is helpful. People willing to take the risk
and come out and share their art with us, and
you know, and doing that I've already gained just beginning
Dan in there, I had people from town that it
never even knew I existed down there, and they can
so they don't want to come back. So you know,
every once in a while there's people in town that
follow these artists that will come and then they want
to come back to more. So I'm hoping by the
end of the year I have a solid crew.
Speaker 10: Yeah that's fantastic.
Speaker 11: Now you know twenty seats, you know I could do it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah, Caleb is this, Well, when
is the show?
Speaker 11: Actually when Saturday? Next week?
Speaker 10: Next Saturday.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the nineteenth nineteenth.
Speaker 10: Will this be the most kind of unique situation for
you in terms of where you've played, because this is
obviously you know, there's nothing quite like you know, the
listening room. This is, this is different.
Speaker 2: It's definitely the most unique I think of the summer. Yeah,
for sure, to have like my own basically like my
own recital concert. The rest of the shows I'm playing
this year are on bills with other artists, which is great. Yeah,
is fun. And they'll be you know, thirty five forty
minute sets, or I have a couple two or three
hour nights where I'm just you know, playing in the
corner somewhere, which is fine. Yeah, And but this will
be like, yeah, this is probably the only like solo
kind of recital to an interested audience that's there just
for and I'll you know, I have more time to
you know, explain myself, you know, talk talk about the song. Yeah,
talk about the songs. I can touch on that a
little bit sometimes, but I'll actually have time to do
that or or play songs. I don't play all that often,
like I've been thinking about, Oh, well I have you know,
I've been making a list of stuff I need to
practice that I haven't played in a while that I'm
looking forward to to playing.
Speaker 10: Yeah you know, yeah, oh very cool. Well we should
play another one of these studio tracks that you sent
us and we had talked what was we had talked
off here about one specifically.
Speaker 2: Sad sci fi Part one?
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, tell us about this?
Speaker 2: Well? This My favorite genre of movies, or television or
or books is sad science fiction. It's science fiction that's
you know, usually depressing because it's maybe a little less fiction,
more nonfiction like apocalypse. Yeah, you know, if you ever
watched The Outer Limits, like The Outer Limits was one
of my It's one of my favorite shows. It's like
Twilight Zone, but it's purely science fiction. The episodes are longer,
it's slower, darker, and a lot of times it ends
just on a really down beat. And I just love that.
I mean, that's what life is really. I mean, it's
it's a horror. We can find joy here and there,
but I mean we shouldn't be here. It's a struggle
until you're dead. And that's the one thing we have
guaranteed to us. And this is a song I wrote
just the the the idea of, you know, we need
optimistic people, we need people looking out for everyone, and
I appreciate that, and I honor that I am not
one of those people, and and just the idea of
of what what I I mean. This song is less fiction,
I guess than I think. But yeah, like this this
we're circling the drain, I guess. And that's where on
that note.
Speaker 10: Oh, by the way, Mariam Vanish and the chat room
says outer Limits, one of my favorites can be so scary.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've.
Speaker 10: Always been aware of the show, but I don't think
I've ever actually seen the show.
Speaker 2: It's it's fantastic.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I might have to check it out. It sounds
like something I would be interested in. Yeah, all right,
so we will. H So let's give this a spend.
And by the way, where are these uh these are from?
You have an album or I?
Speaker 2: I have a brand new album out called Cold Heart
Volume one. It was recorded live in the studio in Summerville,
mass by my friend Sean Kerran at the Napoleon Complex.
And you just set up a bunch of mics, hit
record and I just blew through my set, and uh,
it was an incredible experience and it sounded so good
that I was, Yeah, it's all live, no overdubs, and
I was recorded in the studio.
Speaker 10: So kind of doesn't surprise me because there's, uh, there's
a certain raw energy to to uh, you know, because
I listened to the tracks that you sent and there's
there's kind of a raw energy to them. It sounds
it sounds like it was recorded, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great, no headphones, you just put a
monitor in front of my face, and.
Speaker 11: I feel like he mixed it well though.
Speaker 2: That's what threw me when you said that.
Speaker 11: He's like the energy is there, but I was like, wow,
this is actually I can't. I was actually having a
hard time discerning. That's great though, in a good way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he knows what he's doing, you know, clearly, clearly.
And yeah, So a new album out and if you
you know Crying Caleb, if you just google that, you'll
find a bunch of stuff and you can find it everywhere.
Speaker 10: Excellent, excellent, all right, so let's give this a spin.
So this is Sad sci Fi Part one. Yeah, this
is Crying Caleb, check this out.
Speaker 12: He's coming to save. There's nothing out there, not a man.
It caught somewhat, no difference to be made. The future
is violence, then silence. But there is one true Now
is the only thing that's real outside of that is
what this?
Speaker 13: We're so concerned we are we feel now, we feel.
Speaker 4: No one.
Speaker 12: Is coming to war.
Speaker 14: Thus, no one.
Speaker 12: Is coming to teachers, and no one will remember the
trials that week face these days they are also special.
Speaker 9: That how don't no one knows the way?
Speaker 2: Nobody knows no.
Speaker 12: Having done one way street turnball and I makes me
what time is relative?
Speaker 5: We spend it thinking other.
Speaker 2: Things, way me, comar things me.
Speaker 6: No one.
Speaker 12: Is coming to save Buzz.
Speaker 2: No one.
Speaker 15: Is coming to who cares.
Speaker 12: No one is coming to stop us.
Speaker 2: No one is coming to.
Speaker 10: Collect sad side there we go, sorry sad sci fi
Part one. That is crying Caleb, And that is what's
the name of the album?
Speaker 2: I get cold Heart Volume one.
Speaker 10: Cold Heart Volume one, So there's going to be a
volume two. I assume, yeah, all right. I always wondering
when when I hear somebody call something part one only because.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 10: In the eighties, when Hall and Oates released Rock and
Soul part one. They never put out a part two,
so whenever I hear that yet, yeah, yes, but it
ain't gonna happen now.
Speaker 11: Apparently they're all upset, but Oasis is back together, so
it's fine.
Speaker 10: Yeah, so anything, anything can happens tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Hollano.
Speaker 10: No, that song I was, I was commenting off air.
You know, it's dark and it's sad, but it's also funny.
Oh you know, I like the I like the sense
of humor, you know, very dark humor.
Speaker 2: But hilarious. No one, it's going to make me laugh and.
Speaker 10: I guess it's funny because it's true. Right, Yeah, I
think too.
Speaker 11: What you what you did too with that song is
you kind of made it timeless.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 11: It's one of those ones where I'm like, oh, is
he talking about right now or is he talking about?
Like what is it?
Speaker 10: What is it?
Speaker 11: Exactly? He's putting hitting the nail on the head on
your right. You didn't you didn't put it in a box,
which I thought was great too.
Speaker 10: Yeah that's true. Yeah, timeless, not only in terms of
the lyrics, but in terms of the production because you
could have told me that came from any point and
I would have believed you, you know what I mean, Like,
if you told me that was recorded in the seventies,
I would have believed you. But but it was recorded now,
and I obviously a few months it was recorded a
few months ago. Yeah, and it's but so it's got
that timeless quality to it, which I think is is
really cool. You know. I also want to ask you,
so you're also saying off air about because you're you're
effectively I don't know if you even like the term
maybe not one man band, but you were saying off air.
I thought this was a really interesting, uh comment that
people will kind of suggest other solo artists who do
kind of what you do all the time, and and
you avoid listening to those.
Speaker 2: It's uh yeah, I mean, if I hear it, it's fine,
and I of course appreciate what they're doing because I'm
doing the same thing, but I don't want it to
get in my head kind of thing. Maybe it's a
I don't know, it's it I don't like, I don't
want to be too influenced by the techniques of what
other people do. I can definitely appreciate them like I
and if I'm playing a show with one. Of course
it's fun to watch, but like I don't spend my
time listening like seeking out other one man bands and
listening to them. Yeah, you know, for me, the one
man band thing, it's a means to an end. It's
just I want to play my songs. But I don't
want to play acoustic solo thing, which is great. I
know so many people who are good at it. I
am not good at it. I want to rock and
roll and this is how I can do it, and
this is how I can perform my songs and I
love to perform, so yeah, yeah, it's it's just a
way to do it.
Speaker 10: So when you're playing live, so you have an electric
so you're not yeah, so you're not doing the singer
songwriter thing with an acoustic No, and then you're stomping
for the percussion, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I have a bass drum, a high hat, a guitar,
and an amp. Yeah, and uh you know I that's
how I do it. Yeah. I can load in and
out of anywhere usually within ten minutes. Yeah, it doesn't
take me long to set up and yeah, I go.
Speaker 10: You know, venues must love that they do well.
Speaker 2: It's funny because I'll play a lot of I play
a lot of places, like smaller places, and they'll be
they'll hear like the recorded material and they'll be like,
you might be too loud, And I promise them I
am not. Like I I'm very self aware of my
tone how I want to sound, and I have done
a lot of work to make sure I can capture
that tone at pretty much any volume. Yeah, different wattage.
So if I'm playing, if I were playing in here,
I could make it work, right, you know, in this
and I say in here, I can't see it, but
it's a little room or on a big stage. Like
I can adapt, so I can play smaller places and
it's still sounds like me, but it's not going to
stab anyone in the ear.
Speaker 10: So was it challenging to learn to do that? Because well,
obviously so you actually this is something you mentioned off
air too. You've also been a drummer, right, yes, drums,
So obviously with drums, you know that's the one instrument
where typically someone's using all four of their limbs. So
maybe it wasn't challenging. I mean, was it challenging to
learn to do well?
Speaker 2: No, I mean there was a little bit of time,
but it came pretty natural because I tap my foot
when I play. I'm really to tempo and feeling like
I guess I hate the word but groove of what
I'm doing. But I was just talking with a friend
of mine the other day. While I'm doing it, I'm
not thinking about everything I'm doing all at once. It's automatic,
like it's just I'm just doing it. Like and if
I'm singing, my concentration is on the singing. If I'm
playing guitar solo, my concentrations on the guitar solo. What
my feet are doing. I mean, I'm aware of them,
but I'm not. If I start thinking about it, I
will crash right right. And it's funny because I am
I'm not a very coordinated person.
Speaker 10: Really.
Speaker 2: I joke with my old lady all the time like
gravity is a lot stronger around me than anywhere else.
I drop stuff, I constantly do, always bumping into things.
Oh look like I'm moron when I'm loading stuff around.
But when I'm sitting playing, yeah, it seems very graceful.
Speaker 10: It's like I am just not I can absolutely relate
to that. Yeah. So yeah, so when you yeah, I
remember the first time I saw somebody do anything like
that was uh John hot years ago. Boy, this must
have been like twenty years ago. I saw John Hyatt
live and Conquered and and it was cool, you know,
and he doesn't have like a little drum kit or anything.
He would just stand out with his guitar. But he
had there was a microphone obviously on the floor. They
had the floor micd and he would, you know, start
tapping his foot and it just sounded so cool.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah when he.
Speaker 10: Started doing that, because it surprises the audience a little
bit too, because you know, he's just out there with
his guitar, so you think he's just because it was
an acoustic show. Obviously, he did a lot of tours
where he played with a full band, but this particular
tour is just an acoustic tour and it was just
him and the guitar, so you almost don't expect it.
And then he starts tapping and there's obviously a mic
on the floor. It's like, oh, that sounds really good.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's great. I mean I've seen before I
started doing this, I had seen a few one man
bands perform and I remember loving it but also thinking
like I could do that. M h like I could
do that, and I'd even tell people, you know, I
could do that. Yeah, And eventually I did that well
during COVID times my band wasn't playing, of course, yeah,
and I got really bored. So that was when I
started like practicing it, yeah, and doing it and putting
up videos and stuff. And then once things start opening
back up, I started playing with the drummer again and
that was fine. And then, like I said, when I
moved up to Auburn, Maine, I decided to just do
it one man band. But no, I mean people have
been doing it since forever. I mean, it's it's a
I like it. It's kind of a Carney Carnie trick,
you know, it's it's it's a sideshow thing, and it's
it's I try not the I'm serious. The songs there's
can be serious. They're funny and like, I'm serious about that,
but I also realize it's pretty ridiculous, and like it's
fun it's funny. Sure, it's funny to watch. I mean
some people when they're watching it, they're just like, oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 11: Just I love it. It comes out of one person. I
think it's cool. You've surrounded yourself with ways to different
ways to express yourself, and I really enjoy it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, but it is I understand. I
recognize that it's pretty funny.
Speaker 10: We should play another one. Let's see should we play
what should we play?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: How She Dances is a fun one.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I want to learn about why you covered that
because oh, I don't know if you want to talk
about an hour after you. But like I was hoping
that that would be the song i'd learn more about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd heard, oh yeah, I had heard it's I
didn't write this, you know, it's I had heard one
of my favorite artists, taff Falco and the panther Burns,
do this song, and I remember I just loved it.
I loved the whole Spieley gives and I remember thinking
like I could do this song. Yeah, a long time ago.
And then I like looked it up and realized, like,
you know, I didn't think it was his song, but
turns out it's just this old vaudevillian song from the
like nineteen fifteen or something like that, and I was like, well,
and this doesn't belong to anybody. I could definitely do
this song. And you know, I think like any song
like that, it gets changed. So this is my version.
And I grew up an Old Orchard Beach, Maine, which
you know, I'm part Carney. Like that was downtown Old Orchard.
That's a lot of us who grew up there, especially
like the time I grew up there, we started working downtown.
I had my first job downtown hustling tourists when I
was like twelve years old, you know. And a lot
of it's hustling tourists. Some of it's just like food service.
Some of them is trying to rope people in, just
rip them off, playing an impossible game that they're not
going to win, okay, you know. And I just the
whole art of the circus and the traveling people just
fleecing rubes. I just think it's hilarious and like humans
are so easily manipulated and tricked into doing dumb stuff
if they're told, yes, this is the right decision.
Speaker 10: Why is Old Orchard Beach like that specifically, just because.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a tourist town, but it's a it's it's
one of the places in the Northeast. It's a working
class vacation spot. It's where working people can afford to
go where working people can afford to take their families
and keep them entertained. There's games and rides. It's cheaper.
I mean, it's not cheap, but it's cheaper than going
to a gun Quit or Kenny Bunk or Booth Bay
Harbor or Kadia or anywhere like that. It's it's kind
of low grade entertainment for regular folks, okay. And so
you get a lot of, you know, working class people.
You get some affluent people, but most for the most part,
it's just regular folks.
Speaker 10: Oh that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 10: I was partly curious too, because I think I've only
been there once. But the first time I ever saw
a kiss was it older?
Speaker 2: Oh there you go? Yeah, yeah, that's a good band
for that town.
Speaker 10: There you go. Interesting. Yeah, all right, So we're gonna
give this a spend. So this is see I didn't
even know this was a cover.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when I listened to it, freesome, it's royalty. I
wouldn't record a song that wasn't.
Speaker 11: I didn't know if you paid.
Speaker 10: Oh no, yeah, all right, cool, all right, let's give
this suspend. This is oh how she dances? And this
is crime Caleb.
Speaker 16: Right this way, ladies, and gentlemen to right this way?
Is he the greatest conglomeration of curiosities ever gathered under
one cannabis tent. See the Indian Rubber Boy, see two
ton Tiny, the Black Lady, See Prince Jujububbo, the sword Swallower.
Speaker 12: He is also this state charmer.
Speaker 16: See the Lovely.
Speaker 2: Princess Karma performer spectacular dance suspended high the heads of
the audience on a palid surface no larger than a
silver die.
Speaker 16: She performs her dance to the accompaniment to a strange
talk tom or his draw. Lit by a myriad array
of thousands of tidy electric light bombs every nerve, every muscle,
every fiber of her body.
Speaker 5: It shimmy's like jelly in the hole.
Speaker 16: So bring your friends, your neighbors, and your children, or
they may reproach you in later life for this.
Speaker 2: I'm caught for lack of their education.
Speaker 3: It only cost a time two.
Speaker 2: Nichols one ten part of a dollar.
Speaker 12: You may receive instructions, but don't push, don't shove.
Speaker 4: There's room for one.
Speaker 5: A doll.
Speaker 13: Good man stood outside and another great side show.
Speaker 2: We have to cried right this way.
Speaker 16: We have the main attraction we must day the dancing
princess Lemnal. She don't move her feet at all.
Speaker 5: Say she drew of the suns.
Speaker 9: In two distractions.
Speaker 16: We'll hire room Green pulled out a dime and he said, boys,
I'm here to a half a time, so give me
see now front.
Speaker 2: As far as.
Speaker 8: I'm welly stayed in there far hours about and.
Speaker 2: Last they threw part I m out and as they didn't,
he call her.
Speaker 5: How she dances, Oh, how she dances.
Speaker 16: I've never seen such a movement in my life.
Speaker 2: It beats that dancing cost.
Speaker 12: What what is you all?
Speaker 10: And stay at Molly.
Speaker 2: You're changent to your wife.
Speaker 12: She wiggles, Oh how she wiggles.
Speaker 17: She shimys just like chili in.
Speaker 10: Both She has never seen streets of Cairo.
Speaker 13: I from a baby.
Speaker 10: She's from my.
Speaker 2: Town like this, White ladies and gentlemen right this way?
Does he need mole?
Speaker 16: Despicable geek captured in the wilds of Old Orchard Beach Main,
where he was incarcerated in the attic by his parents
at the tender age of fourteen. In order to survive,
he learned to eat.
Speaker 12: My ras, live chickens, and other living organisms.
Speaker 5: Yes, friends, oh, that.
Speaker 10: Is, oh how she dances? That is Crime Caleb from
the album cold Heart Volume one. Hey, where's the name
come from? By the way, Crime Caleb?
Speaker 2: Good question, Well one of my I don't really believe
in heroes, but let's say I was someone who believed
in a hero. Sure how one of them would be
screaming Jay Hawkins scream and Jay Howland Wolf as another
guy I like named Lonesome Wyatt. I like the you
know that title in Yeah my name you know it's Caleb,
Aaron Colthard and Colethard is one of those names like
in a loud room if if I tell people my name,
they say what was that? And I'm like exactly right right.
And it was actually my friend Heather who painted the
cover of the new album. When she learned my real
last last name, she was like cold Heart and I
was like, yeah, exactly, Oh you know, yeah, I had
heard that before. An old teacher in school used to
say I had a cold heart, but no, yeah, crying
Caleb was just It's just I needed a name, yeah,
and that was came up with it and I asked
a few people. I was like, what do you think
of that? And They're like that's good. Yeah all right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 10: Well, by the way Miriam said in the chat room,
feeling a little Tom Waits thing in this, is he
an influence on you? I didn't think of that until
Miriam said that, but yeah, I can. I'm gonna hear it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean to to an extent. There's like three
Tom Waits records I really like Yeah and Yeah. I
like those three albums. He's a yeah. I mean, he's
not my favorite, but I definitely the songs I like
by him, I really really really like Yeah. But I'm
I don't know if he's so much an influence. Maybe
just it's in there somewhere. We know he's not a hero,
no heroes. Yeah, it's good time.
Speaker 11: I felt like I had, like I told when Dan came,
and I feel the same way about you.
Speaker 2: I woke up.
Speaker 11: I was in my house last night getting ready for
bed as like musical Santa's coming tomorrow, musical. You may
not be my hero, but you're my musical Santa. I
couldn't sleep last night. I was I haven't actually met him.
We've been talking online, I booked him and just getting
to know each other. But I'm like, I actually get
to meet him.
Speaker 2: To Yeah, oh that's cool.
Speaker 10: That's cool, very cool. Now what about so when is uh,
have you started working on Cold Heart Volume two yet?
Speaker 2: Or well it's I okay. I put on an album
called a few years ago and that was like my
first solo record. And after that, over the last few years,
I've recorded a lot, and then that was going to
be the next album. But and then out of nowhere,
I got a show in Massachusetts and I decided to
make a weekend of it and book another show. While
I was down there and studio time and recorded this
and I was like, boom, that's a record. So I
just put that out. But I still have all these
recordings I've done that I really like. I think those
are probably gonna come out in some shape or form.
But cold Heart Volume two, I don't even know if
that will be the next album, but there will be one.
I imagine it'll be another one man band, live in
the studio, once I get enough songs that I want
to use that way because the other stuff I record,
like my first album night Hoss and singles I've put out.
When I record the actually record, I play drums and
I play bass, and I do guitar and couples. Like
I record it as a whole band. I'm still playing everything.
I might have a guest play organ or something. I
don't know how to play on it. But the live
show is one man band, and that's why this new
album is the closest to like, this is what I
sound like live.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, yeah, no, that makes sense. That makes
sense when you do some of the shows that you do,
if you have to play a long time, so you
mix in some covers.
Speaker 2: I saw the originals, Yes I do, Yeah, I do.
You know old country songs. I I don't do anything
I don't like, that's for sure, but I'll do a
song I do Bela Lugosi's Dead by the bow House,
a Forest by the Cure Echo and the Bunnyman Morrissey.
Speaker 11: You did one recently that or I don't know if
you did it recently, but I watched it recently. Was
opening for Rocky Horror Pictures show.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Rocky Horror. That's a fun the science fiction
double feature. Yeah, I'd be that one. Yeah, I kinks.
You know, there's some songs I've known my whole life,
but I've never actually played that. Like I played a
show in Lewiston, near where I live, and I was
playing a two hour show and on the way there
I heard a whole lot of shaking going on by
Jerry Lee Lewis. Now I've heard that song thousands of
times probably, and I was like, I could play this.
So while I was playing, I just start playing it.
Oh really it's not it's three chords.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just had to remember the words. And that was
a blast, you know, like I Jerry Lee Lewis, Little
Richard like you know stuff I do. Yeah, I do
a lot of covers.
Speaker 10: It sounds like it sounds like though some of the
covers you do might be there might be instances where
people who are there don't necessarily realize their covers right
because somebody not standard issue cover.
Speaker 2: I mean, I often I try not to take you know.
I'll mention like the songs written by so and so
or afterwards, I'll say it whether they hear it or not.
But it's great if I'm playing for a group of like,
you know, working dudes who like country music and then
I throw an echo and the Bunnyman song they've never
heard but they like it, or a cure song but
they like it, and they don't even realize. It's like
if they heard the original, they probably like, what right? Right?
I really enjoy that, or the flip side of it,
doing you know, a country song that a different audience
might not be.
Speaker 11: You could do a sick rap cover if you found
the right rap song.
Speaker 2: I used to, but in this day and age, I
don't do the ones I used to do because the
sense of humor, and of course there was nothing malicious
in my my But I'm like, I'm not going to
do those anymore.
Speaker 10: Understood, Yeah, understood, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 10: The time goes quickly. I want to make sure we
I want to make sure we get one more song in.
But I also want to remind everybody, especially for people
who are just joining us, about the show coming up
at Prayers. I keep doing that the listening room. I
think I'm suffering from adult onset dyslexia. Forgive me the
listening room at Prayers of Nature.
Speaker 11: But you can find everything at Prayers of Nature dot com.
So I've made it a little difficult for you.
Speaker 10: Maybe that's maybe that's why I keep inspiring in.
Speaker 11: You can reserve seats for as little as twelve dollars.
You can come see Caleb, which is quite a steal
if you ask me, and it's September, I'm sorry. Saturday,
July nineteenth. The doors open at six thirty, show starts
at seven. Okay, yeah, prayers in nature dot com. You
can reserve a seat. I won't turn people away if
they show up at the door. It's just if you
want to be able to sit down. Yeah, you're gonna
want to go online and reserve a seat, but if
you show up, you know, I'm not going to be like,
go away, right right, I'm just gonna Yeah, I call
it the Wallflower Pass. You still pay, but yeah we're
going to be standing. So yeah, yeah, I'm really excited
about it. We also have I should mention before Caleb.
There is two other acts. There's one on Thursday called
Blame It On Sally. It's a duo upright bass guitar.
The woman who plays upright bass is actually an artist
at the mill that I'm in. So she's an art
professor and she's a painter. So she's going to be
opening her studio before her show for people to show
up early and enjoy her art before she actually performs.
So that's Blame It On Sally On Thursday and then
Tom Russo, who you've met my cousin is performing.
Speaker 10: It's been on a few times.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, he's coming that Friday once again. They all
start at seven or open at six thirty. And then yeah,
Caleb on the nineteen oh it was Caleb.
Speaker 10: Yeah, excellent, excellent And Caleb, what should people know about?
Where to find you online? Where to get your albums?
Speaker 2: And just you can google Crying Caleb. You're going to
find me. But I'm on all the social media stuff,
well not all of them, but.
Speaker 11: Not only fans, not on only fans.
Speaker 10: It's hard to be on all of them. There's so many.
Speaker 2: But I'm I host Slyly you know, Instagram, Facebook, you
can find Crying Caleb YouTube. I have a lot of
stuff on YouTube that I don't put on the other stuff.
And you know I have a band camp. But you
can find you can find me. Yeah, you can find me.
He's not hard to find.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 2: People say they can't find me. It's like you didn't try, right, right, Yeah,
And I don't blame you. This is who's got time.
This is worth It's hard man.
Speaker 10: I've always I've always thought it's funny when somebody says Oh, yeah,
I looked for you online. I couldn't find you. It's
like you didn't try to try. You couldn't find a
guy named Matt Connorton. Like, how many Matt Connortons do
you think there are out there? There is one other one,
but he's my uncle, so he doesn't count.
Speaker 2: Oh, uncle Matt, Yeah, Uncle Matt.
Speaker 10: Well, very good, and we will so we'll close out
with this track to Live and Love in the Shadow
of Fear.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, it's an ominous sid don't Yeah. And this
is an episode of The Outer Limits, the New Outer Limits.
My girlfriend always says, stop calling it the New Outer
Limits because it's from the nineties, because the original show
was in the sixties.
Speaker 10: Oh, I didn't even realize it. They're going to reboot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was in the nineties. Okay, But this episode,
particular episode is about someone who realizes there's something wrong
with the moon and that the sun probably went nova
and that as morning comes, everyone's going to be incinerated.
So he decides to spend his last night on Earth
coming clean with the Galley has a crush on that
works at the bookstore, and he asks her out on
a date, and you know, spends what they believe to
be their last night on Earth together, but she doesn't
realize that Earth is gonna be gone in the morning.
When she finds out, she's kind of angry, like, why
would I want to spend the rest of my life
with you? Like I barely know you? But it's the
outer limits so it gets more complicated. But anyway, it
I just love that idea, yeah, of the end coming
and just knowing when it's coming and being like, what
do you want to do? And it's like, well, I
know what i'd like to do. I'd like to spend
it with the woman I love. Right, So that's what
this song.
Speaker 10: Oh, very cool, very cool. So we're gonna spend this
in a moment. And uh, by the way, thank you
to everyone who joined us today on the show. And
if you miss any part of today's show, it will
be up in just a little bit at Wmnhradio dot
organ in my website Matt Connorton dot com. And Jenny,
of course, you've been up to a lot. As always,
you want to mention your your website so people can
keep up with you. Al you can check me out
at Gencoffee dot com.
Speaker 6: J E.
Speaker 11: N n c O f f U I and check
out the latest blog and you'll know where I'm speaking
on Monday.
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, very important, very good and uh Cryan Caleb,
thank you so much, thank you, and of course Darling Hill,
thank you. Oh and thank you for the wonderful sticker too.
I'll hold that up for people watching online so they
can see it one more time for the listening room
at Prayers of Nature. Sit right down to very good,
and we will close out today's show with this. This
is still Live in Love in the Shadow of Fear,
and this is Crian Caleb.
Speaker 2: I want to spend his night with you because in
the morning it'll all be gone.
Speaker 17: Nothing really mats with nothing.
Speaker 2: He's nold more now, nothing is no more.
Speaker 13: Spending.
Speaker 18: And I'll hold you in my art while in halls
fools dark and through closed eyes we see shiver, rigs, sills,
bread holds as the lighting exists.
Speaker 17: Forth the last time. The futures is silas and it's cool.
It's a hostile world where we won't be long.
Speaker 15: So it's spenders night doing those things we saw love
to do, like watching movies and telling jokes, spending me
with and I'll hold you in my arms.
Speaker 3: While it all.
Speaker 2: Starts to close.
Speaker 18: Eyes, we see shimmericks still over and as the light
exists for the last time.
Speaker 13: It was the last time, You and I fading as
want into the.
Speaker 14: Darts, U n I burning gas, want into ashes, U
n I fading gas want into the.
Speaker 5: Boys, U n I bursting gas one.
Speaker 2: As one hard.
Speaker 5: It's live.
Speaker 2: It sings like a song.
Speaker 10: Sometimes it's loud.
Speaker 2: Caddie, what's going in?
Speaker 8: All so calmly skipping want P saying your sound inside.
Speaker 5: So it's like a joke.
Speaker 8: You never get me, don't beat no strange eyes singing
my enter and.
Speaker 17: Sing me high up.
Speaker 8: High asking men and the side sign A found B
sing your sound.
Speaker 2: Where you rock all.
Speaker 4: It's like y'all song.
Speaker 10: As me I rock on that I found B sing
your sound where you rock on.
Speaker 8: It's like y'all song as me I am the crown.
Speaker 2: All that be time.
Speaker 8: Around the sing line out B s your side
Speaker 2: Shid shot, So do you got it?