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<v Speaker 1>It's night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Thank you very much, Nicole, And

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<v Speaker 2>of course we're going to be chatting about it before

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<v Speaker 2>the debate and after the debate. Good evening, everyone, and

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<v Speaker 2>welcome on into the October first, twenty twenty fourth edition

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<v Speaker 2>of Nightside. My name is Dan Ray. I'm the host

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<v Speaker 2>of the show. Normally I don't mention the date at

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<v Speaker 2>the host when I introduced the show, but I am

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<v Speaker 2>tonight because tonight marks the beginning of our eighteenth year

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<v Speaker 2>here on WBZ in this legendary seat, the nighttime weeknight

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<v Speaker 2>talk show host position sort of the equivalent in my

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<v Speaker 2>mind of playing left field for the Red Sox Show.

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<v Speaker 2>You had Ted Williams, you had Callya Streemsky, Jim Rice,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Greenwell, and well, it's sort of you know it.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of other guys have played their sets, but

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<v Speaker 2>those were the people who sat there for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad Williams, call you Swremsky, Jim Rice, and in this chair.

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<v Speaker 2>There haven't been a lot of talk show hosts. I

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<v Speaker 2>succeeded Paul Sullivan back in two thousand and seven. I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing the show after Paul was diagnosed with a

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<v Speaker 2>horrific form of cancer which took his life in September

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<v Speaker 2>of two thousand and seven, and my news director at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, Peter Casey, was WBZ still WBZ, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was owned by CBS at the time, and Peter said,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to name the show, and I said, you

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<v Speaker 2>name it whatever you want. He named it Nightside with

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Ray. I'm glad he said, Knightside with Dan Ray.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've been here now, done this show for seventeen years.

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<v Speaker 2>I have made a lot of friends on this program,

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<v Speaker 2>are people who I've interviewed, people who have called in.

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<v Speaker 2>I've really been fortunate knowledge to do the show, but

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<v Speaker 2>to have as many friendships come out of the show,

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<v Speaker 2>the folks, the advertisers that have supported the program over

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<v Speaker 2>the years. So with just that quick acknowledgment of the

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<v Speaker 2>evening and this is the beginning of year eighteen, I

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<v Speaker 2>just wanted to say thank you to the listeners. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you especially to the callers, because when you run a

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<v Speaker 2>talk show, the currency of the talk show is talk

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<v Speaker 2>people calling and expressing their opinions. And we've always tried

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<v Speaker 2>to make this as welcoming a place as possible for

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<v Speaker 2>all points of view. I don't like people who try

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<v Speaker 2>to talk over me. That's uncomfortable for me. I try

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<v Speaker 2>not to talk over people. I do try to get

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<v Speaker 2>into a conversation, and a conversation. I think most of

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<v Speaker 2>you understand that I'm pretty patient, so I hope that

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<v Speaker 2>we'll continue. I don't know that I have seventeen years left,

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<v Speaker 2>but we'll see, taking a year at a time. And

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<v Speaker 2>I just again want to thank you for your loyalty.

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<v Speaker 2>Please tell your friends about this program. We're in the

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<v Speaker 2>midst of a presidential race, which frankly has the potential

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<v Speaker 2>to be very corrosive depending upon the results of the election.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that whichever candidate wins, either former President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>or Vice President Harris, I am apprehensive that there will

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<v Speaker 2>be a certain segment of that side of the isle

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't win. And not that they'll be violent, That's

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<v Speaker 2>not what I'm concerned about, but they won't at least

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<v Speaker 2>give whomever is elected president a chance. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>we have had well several presidential elections in which that

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<v Speaker 2>that's been problematic for this country. And tonight we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to preview a very important part of any presidential election,

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<v Speaker 2>and a particularly important part of this presidential election because

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<v Speaker 2>there apparently will only be that one presidential debate between

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<v Speaker 2>president former President Trump and Vice President Harris. And tonight

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to listen to the vice presidential debate, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think is going to be extremely important, extremely important

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<v Speaker 2>this year, much more so than any other year, for

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of reasons. For a couple of reasons in

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<v Speaker 2>both the candidates, and we talked about that last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Both Donald Trump and Kamala Harris have some pretty high

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<v Speaker 2>negatives and that is that's what the American people feel,

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<v Speaker 2>so none of us can change that. But tonight we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be introduced to two vice presidential candidates, JD.

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<v Speaker 2>Vance and Tim Walls. And we've had some impress each

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<v Speaker 2>of us have impressions. Maybe you like some, maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>don't like one. You like one, you don't like the other,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't like either of them. I don't know. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to know in this first hour what you're looking

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<v Speaker 2>to hear from either Jdvan Senator Jdvans or Tim Walls,

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota Governor Tim Walls. I'm going to open up the

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<v Speaker 2>phone lines and when the debate is over at ten thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have an opportunity for people to weigh in and

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<v Speaker 2>tell me who they think prevailed in the debate. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's a draw, Maybe both of them will do really

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<v Speaker 2>well and there'll be no big mistake, or maybe there's

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<v Speaker 2>a faux pat I don't know. A lot of it

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<v Speaker 2>is clearly subjective, subjective. That's the thing about debates. Unlike

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<v Speaker 2>a sporting event. They're very much a sporting event, but

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<v Speaker 2>unlike a real sporting event where they count the points

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<v Speaker 2>on the score board, or the runs on the score board,

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<v Speaker 2>or the number of goals, and you can come away

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<v Speaker 2>from a sporting event and say, my team was better tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>but they lost tonight. Whatever you think is important. So

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm going to do is just do a quick

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<v Speaker 2>little introduction, because some of you may not know much

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<v Speaker 2>about either of these gentlemen. We will learn a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about both of them. I think between now and election Day,

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<v Speaker 2>November fifth, which is now five weeks from tonight, five

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<v Speaker 2>weeks from right now, polls will have been closed in

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<v Speaker 2>the East Coast. There will be states that will have

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<v Speaker 2>been decided at this point, you know, the states Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 2>will vote for Vice President Harris. I suspect that Florida

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<v Speaker 2>will vote for Jdvince. Now the non battleground states and

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<v Speaker 2>they will be called very quickly, but of course the

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<v Speaker 2>focus will be in the east, on North Carolina and Georgia, Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 2>in the midwest Michigan, Wisconsin, and then out west Nevada

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<v Speaker 2>and Arizona. Now, I would love to see a more

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<v Speaker 2>decisive election because I think we need a decisive election,

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<v Speaker 2>but we may not get a decisive election, So I

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<v Speaker 2>will pick a break. Thank you for allowing me to

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<v Speaker 2>go on about the importance of tonight to the Night

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<v Speaker 2>Side team and to myself. But I want to mouth

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<v Speaker 2>now focus of the importance of this night to America.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you listen to this debate between these two individuals

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<v Speaker 2>who would be a heartbeat away one of them will

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<v Speaker 2>be a heartbeat away from the office of the Presidency,

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<v Speaker 2>And can you listen with an open mind. I know

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<v Speaker 2>that you're going to bring you a point of view,

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<v Speaker 2>but can you listen and can you say guess what

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<v Speaker 2>I think. I'm surprised, pleasantly surprised. Maybe the Republican will

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe they both were better than I thought. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to conclude either one of them. You might

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<v Speaker 2>conclude they both were horrible. We'll have to see how

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<v Speaker 2>it plays out. I want to go into this with

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<v Speaker 2>as open a mind as possible. When I listened to

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<v Speaker 2>the debate between former President Trump and Vice President Harris,

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<v Speaker 2>I called that debate immediately at ten forty five when

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<v Speaker 2>we got the microphones back open here at WBZ. Vice

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<v Speaker 2>President Harris won that debate without question in my mind. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>not all of you agreed with me, but I guarantee

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<v Speaker 2>you I will give you an honest assessment come ten thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hope you'll give me an honest assessment. But

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<v Speaker 2>for now, I'm going to ask you to join me

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<v Speaker 2>and tell me. Tell me what do you expect, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you hope for. You can tell me that you

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<v Speaker 2>hope one of them falls flat on their face, or

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<v Speaker 2>you can tell me that we're going to be surprized

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<v Speaker 2>and Tim Walls will come across much more likable than

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<v Speaker 2>anyone can imagine, or JD. Vance will come across much

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<v Speaker 2>more informed. I mean, one's a senator, current Center. The

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<v Speaker 2>others are former congressman and mayor. We can get into

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<v Speaker 2>their backgrounds in a moment, but we're going to take

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<v Speaker 2>a break. Here are the numbers six one, seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 2>also triple eight nine to nine, ten thirty. We're about

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<v Speaker 2>forty three minutes away from the moment in time that

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<v Speaker 2>CBS will take over the broadcast. You do not have

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<v Speaker 2>to leave this radio station. We will provide you every

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<v Speaker 2>every word, every question, every answer. That's our job. Your

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<v Speaker 2>job will be to listen and then participate. I'd love

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<v Speaker 2>to have some of you tell me what you hope for,

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<v Speaker 2>what you expect. If you're a first time caller, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a longtime caller and listener, that's great too.

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<v Speaker 2>My name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside. We are now

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<v Speaker 2>officially in year eighteen. I hope you'll join us. I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder who'll be the first caller in year eighteen. The

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<v Speaker 2>lines are open.

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<v Speaker 1>Dive away now back to Dan Ray live from the

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<v Speaker 1>Window World to night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we're going to hear tonight a lot we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to know an hour and a half from now,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about Tim Walls, and a lot about jd Vance.

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<v Speaker 2>More than probably we know now Vance to keep it simple,

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<v Speaker 2>is the United States Senator from Ohio. He was elected

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<v Speaker 2>to the United States Senate in the election of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two. So he's a relatively well, he's a junior senator.

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<v Speaker 2>It's as simple as that. He's a Republican. He and

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<v Speaker 2>his wife, we're married in twenty fourteen. They have three kids.

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<v Speaker 2>He went to Ohio State University and Yale University Law School.

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<v Speaker 2>He is written a book which turned into a very

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<v Speaker 2>amazing movie, He'll Billy Elegy. The book was published in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen and was adapted into a film in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>He won his election in twenty two, twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>defeating an incumbent Democrat. No me a Democratic nominee, not

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<v Speaker 2>an incumbent. Tim Ryan and he he is, he's pretty

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<v Speaker 2>has military service sir for four years in the US

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<v Speaker 2>Marine Corps. Got to the rank of corporal. He was

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<v Speaker 2>in Iraq. He received several awards Navy Marine Corps Achievement Medal,

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<v Speaker 2>Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal. And he is a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>smart guy. Tim Walls interesting forty first governor of Minnesota, Democrat, incumbent.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been in politics for a long time in office.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a member of the House of Representatives, first

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<v Speaker 2>elected in January of two thousand, took office in January

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and seven. Served in the House for twelve years,

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<v Speaker 2>and he became governor of the forty first governor of

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<v Speaker 2>the state of Minnesota in twenty nineteen. He was born

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<v Speaker 2>in Nebraska, West Point, Nebraska. He also served in the military.

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<v Speaker 2>Joined the National Guard in high school. Was in the

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<v Speaker 2>National Nebraska National Guard the Minnesota National Guard served from

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty one to two thousand and five. His rank

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<v Speaker 2>was a command Sergeant major, so he was of a

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<v Speaker 2>much higher rank than JD. Vance and he received several

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<v Speaker 2>awards as well. Army Commendation Medal, Operation Enduring Freedom, Army

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<v Speaker 2>Achievement Medal, National Defense Service Medal, Global War and Terrorism

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<v Speaker 2>Service Medal. That's just the that's just scraping the surface.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know what you expect to hear out

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<v Speaker 2>of these individuals. Waltz was a high school football coach

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<v Speaker 2>at some point. He is a very effusive individual. You've

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<v Speaker 2>seen him on the campaign trail. He has not answered

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<v Speaker 2>many questions. Vance on the other side, on the other

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<v Speaker 2>side of the coin, seems to be a pretty serious guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Served as a it was, had a career in the

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<v Speaker 2>high tech inter industry as a venture capitalist. He seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be more serious. And he was born He actually

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<v Speaker 2>was born James Donald Bowman his mom. He was adopted

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<v Speaker 2>by his mother's third husband, and his name was changed

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<v Speaker 2>to his last name, James David hammil And now he

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<v Speaker 2>has the name j D. Vince. So of tough childhood

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<v Speaker 2>growing up. Let's get to the phone calls and see

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<v Speaker 2>what other people have to say. And the first caller

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<v Speaker 2>in our eighteenth year is Stu from Cape Cod. Hi, Stu,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you on?

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<v Speaker 3>Kind?

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<v Speaker 4>Not see Dan? Stu here?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Did it really? Well? You're the first caller of

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<v Speaker 2>our eighteenth year on the radio, Stu? What are you

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<v Speaker 2>looking for tonight? What do you expect?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm not exactly sure that. Historically, the debating record

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<v Speaker 5>has always proven to be the clear opening of our

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<v Speaker 4>We go back.

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<v Speaker 5>Nixon had his debate in the kitchen with Khrushchev. Then

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<v Speaker 5>Nixon dropped the ball with lazy shave against Kennedy, and

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<v Speaker 5>then really can't remember too many other debates amongst presidential candidates,

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<v Speaker 5>but in the last debate with former President Trump and

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<v Speaker 5>President Biden. I was extreme disappointed because of the lack

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<v Speaker 5>of dignity that each displayed with calling each other a liar,

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<v Speaker 5>and it just got into a gutter snipe and it

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<v Speaker 5>of prestige for the office, to me is the one

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<v Speaker 4>Tonight, that they retain some sense.

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<v Speaker 5>Of dignity because of the fact that it's always been

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<v Speaker 4>And I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll make one prediction. I will bet you that these

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<v Speaker 2>two will shake hands before the debate. The president. And again,

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<v Speaker 2>when you talk about the debate where there were all

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<v Speaker 2>sorts of inductive going back, that was twenty twenty. When

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<v Speaker 2>President Biden and former President Trump debated in late June,

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<v Speaker 2>the mics were turned off and so there wasn't that possibility.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was the night that President Biden had a

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<v Speaker 2>horrible night that night and Donald Trump really behaved himself,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe because the mics were turned off. And now Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump had a bad night when he debated Vice President Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>He couldn't control himself. So I suspect vance will be

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<v Speaker 2>a much more disciplined debater than President Trump has ever been,

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<v Speaker 2>So that'll be an interesting I think. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you agree with any of that, but that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for. I think Walls will be probably more

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I don't think that that's going to be necessarily

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<v Speaker 5>I think what I'm expecting and I'm hoping, is that

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<v Speaker 5>in this election, ultimately, regardless of who wins, that there's

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<v Speaker 5>some type of dignity as far as it's similar to

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<v Speaker 5>when the two teams shake hands at the end of

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<v Speaker 5>the Stanley Cup. I mean, you expect some type of

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree that. I hope the two of them

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<v Speaker 2>shake hands before the debate, and I hope they shake

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<v Speaker 2>hands after debate. It'll be interesting to see.

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<v Speaker 4>Very good. Well, listen, it's always good talking with you

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<v Speaker 4>and listening to you, and we'll certainly see you somewhere soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Still, let me ask you where you're driving tonight. I

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<v Speaker 2>know exactly who this is, but you're out and about

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<v Speaker 2>here in New England. I assume somewhere I.

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<v Speaker 5>Was given a talk to a young hockey team at

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<v Speaker 5>And whenever I have an opportunity to to speak with

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<v Speaker 5>young people, I always try to take it because I

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<v Speaker 5>can't give back in my community, but I can share

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<v Speaker 5>what I have well.

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<v Speaker 2>For those who don't know, this gentleman played not only

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<v Speaker 2>hockey as a player. Do you mind if I identify

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<v Speaker 2>you a little bit or no?

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Stewart played at the University of Pennsylvania and played

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<v Speaker 2>for the Quebec Nordiques UH and he was one of

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<v Speaker 2>the toughest guys in the league. And then he went

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<v Speaker 2>on to become a referee and refereed over a thousand games,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm not sure, if I'm not mistaken, and at

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<v Speaker 2>the time also dealt with a battle of cancer, and

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<v Speaker 2>he gives back tremendously, tremendously to the to the community.

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<v Speaker 2>And the next time you're down the Cape, give me

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<v Speaker 2>a call. We'll grab lunch.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm looking forward to it, and I'll tell.

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<v Speaker 4>You one interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I always appreciate you. I heard your your initial speech

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<v Speaker 5>or you're talking about your eighteenth year. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>everyone one who listens to WBZ and goes back to

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<v Speaker 5>all of the great radio personalities that have been on

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<v Speaker 5>the station, and BES has always been a fixture, even

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<v Speaker 5>going back to Christmas.

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<v Speaker 4>When they would have it at the Washington's.

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<v Speaker 5>Crossing and Dave Maynard and so on. I just I

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<v Speaker 5>just always think that you've kept the traditional live of

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<v Speaker 5>giving dignity to.

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<v Speaker 4>Both sides of the coin. And that's why I enjoy

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<v Speaker 4>listening to you, because you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Once you're out of school, you don't necessarily always have

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<v Speaker 5>the opportunity to listen to people that actually have a

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<v Speaker 2>Paul, as I always do, as we will say, but

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you want again, I really I'm I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>be in your neck of the woods for a few

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<v Speaker 2>more weeks. So give me a yellow grab lunch of

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<v Speaker 2>breakfast some morning. Okay, I'm looking forward to it as well.

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<v Speaker 5>You've got mine.

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<v Speaker 3>Give me a call.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm around all week.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, all right, Good health to you right back there.

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<v Speaker 2>I know a great guy, a tough hockey player, trust me,

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<v Speaker 2>trust me, and a tough referee too, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't take any guff from anyone, Okay, going to take

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<v Speaker 2>a break bottom of the hour. We got Kathleen in

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<v Speaker 2>New Jersey, Claire in Pennsylvania, and I got room for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I got one at six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty, and I got a couple at six one seven,

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<v Speaker 2>nine three one ten thirty. Light them up. I'll get

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<v Speaker 2>you all in between now and nine o'clock. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to know what you're looking for. I'm looking for a

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<v Speaker 2>handshake between these two gentlemen before the debate and after

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<v Speaker 2>the debate that to me, will make it a successful

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<v Speaker 2>debate for both of them. I hope, I hope uh

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<v Speaker 2>and they can do that because remember the vice president

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<v Speaker 2>and the former president did shake before the debate on

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<v Speaker 2>September tenth. They did not shake hands after the debate,

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<v Speaker 2>which was disappointing. There. This is an important time. We

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<v Speaker 2>saw what happened today in Israel with Iran. We have

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<v Speaker 2>to stand together as as a nation. Join the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming right back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 1>Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the phones we go. Let's go to Kathleen

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<v Speaker 2>in New Jersey. Kathleen, welcome. I'm not sure I've had

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<v Speaker 2>you on my show before, if I had.

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<v Speaker 6>Hi dance, congratulations on eighteen years, and I have actually

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<v Speaker 6>talked to you before. Normally I'm traveling on the Garden

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<v Speaker 6>State Parkway and the Bass Pike going between my Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 6>home and my New Jersey home.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so what do you tonight?

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<v Speaker 6>I get to tonight, I get to listen to you,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think what you're talking about is very important.

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<v Speaker 6>So what I would like for the candidates to do

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<v Speaker 6>is stop calling each other's names, treat each other with respect,

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<v Speaker 6>and answer the.

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<v Speaker 2>Questions pretty simple.

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<v Speaker 6>During the They're just very simple band. Didn't we all

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<v Speaker 6>learn that in high school? Right and during our debate classes?

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<v Speaker 6>How to answer questions? Ye, So I think what's happened, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 6>is these debates now have turned into vitriol and name

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<v Speaker 6>calling and no substance. So I would like to know

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<v Speaker 6>more about what they're going to do to help us financially.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know about the rest of you, but every

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<v Speaker 6>time I go to the grocery store now, the prices

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<v Speaker 6>are outrageous.

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<v Speaker 2>My electricity bills, grocery store shopper in my family, and

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<v Speaker 2>you are right on the money. It's amazing. Everything has

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<v Speaker 2>gone up, nothing has come down.

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<v Speaker 6>Nothing correct. So and I keep hearing everyone say, well,

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<v Speaker 6>they're doing, they're doing, they're doing, and I don't see

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<v Speaker 6>that happening. And I'm tired of being told, well, if

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<v Speaker 6>I'll do well. I need to see more substance now,

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<v Speaker 6>and quite frankly, between the two candidates, I'm not too

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<v Speaker 6>pleased Dan. So I have to go into the polls

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<v Speaker 6>and I've got to close my eyes and point because

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<v Speaker 6>I don't like either of them. But we have to

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<v Speaker 6>choose someone. And I get.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you voting in Massachusetts or New Jersey Massachusetts?

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<v Speaker 6>Because my legal home is still in Massachusetts. So I'll

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<v Speaker 6>be voting in Massachusetts, and I'll be doing an absentee

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<v Speaker 6>probably walk in and do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, But but the thing that's good about it going

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<v Speaker 2>to vote because you and I know what the result

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<v Speaker 2>will be in Massachusetts. Yeah, Republicans happened one Massachusetts since

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<v Speaker 2>Ronald Reagan carried this stage twice. Yes, for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>forty years. Uh, And I don't think that that street

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<v Speaker 6>To be broken this what's interesting is I go back

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<v Speaker 6>to Massachusetts and I realized the majority of people from

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<v Speaker 6>Massachusetts are Democratic. I come down to South Jersey, the

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<v Speaker 6>majority of the people are Republican. So I get to

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<v Speaker 6>see the two different party systems Dan and and and

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<v Speaker 6>sometimes what happens with that is just like those you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the way that they take over. And so I don't

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<v Speaker 6>always see the best of both worlds. And sometimes I

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<v Speaker 6>just want to stand in the middle and say, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know where the hop you know so well, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>The funny thing about it is when you think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>Actually about fifty percent of the voters in Massachusetts are

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<v Speaker 2>registered as unenrolled, which means independent. Yeah, the Democrats have

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<v Speaker 2>about thirty five or so six percent of the election

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<v Speaker 2>about one third remain Democrat and the Republicans maybe have

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<v Speaker 2>about twelve percent.

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<v Speaker 6>So but yeah, in New Jersey they're not allowed to

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<v Speaker 6>be unenrolled. You have to pick a party one way

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think I think I don't like that because I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of people who feel the strange from

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<v Speaker 2>both parties like I do. Greattimes, Kathleen, I'm so happy

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<v Speaker 2>that you called, and I hope you'll call more often.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed the conversation and I'm with you one thousand

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<v Speaker 2>percent on everything that you said.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, Dan very much, and congratulations on eighteen years.

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<v Speaker 2>We just look, we got seventeen, and we got seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>down and eighteen starts tonight. Thanks Kathleen.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, take care Buck sooner, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Good night, Let's keep rolling here. Let me go to

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<v Speaker 2>Claire in Pennsylvania. So we're the Massachusetts. Call is Hi, Claire,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm fine, Dan, How are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing just great. What's your What do you expect?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you hope for tonight? By the way, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't mention this, but the moderators or the panelists nor

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<v Speaker 2>O'Donnell and Margaret Brennan obviously CBS News veterans, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be interesting. The the ABC moderators Lindsey Davis

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<v Speaker 2>and David Muir got roasted for the way they handled

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<v Speaker 2>the last debate. I think the pressure is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be on O'Donnell and Brennan as much as it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be on jd Vance and Tim walltz.

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<v Speaker 7>Well. I just hope that they let the both candidates

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<v Speaker 7>speak and don't interrupt them, and and uh, I hope that.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll tell you, I'm going to vote for Trump, and

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<v Speaker 7>I don't like the way Trump acts, but I do

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<v Speaker 7>like his policies. And I hope that mister Vance not

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<v Speaker 7>only answers the questions. But I don't understand through this

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<v Speaker 7>whole campaign, why why none of the Republicans point out

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<v Speaker 7>Trump's accomplishments, because they I hear all the time that

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<v Speaker 7>he mishandled the pandemic. Well, he had Operation Warp Speed

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<v Speaker 7>to get the vaccine created, and he sat hospital ships

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<v Speaker 7>to New York City and I won city in California.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not sure which one.

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<v Speaker 2>Had some help in that regard, but yeah, New York,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't think New York ever took advantage. New

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<v Speaker 2>York was where they put people into nursing homes.

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<v Speaker 7>They didn't they didn't use the ships. And he also

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<v Speaker 7>puts I don't know whether it was Central Park or

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<v Speaker 7>where somewhere they hospital tents.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Central Park, yes, it was.

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<v Speaker 7>What And he got the Abraham record started in the

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<v Speaker 7>Mid East or Middle East, and the Republicans don't ever

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<v Speaker 7>talk about that. They they just want to fault Biden,

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<v Speaker 7>which I I can find a lot to fault Biden about,

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<v Speaker 7>but you should take credit for your own accomplishments.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, well he criticized President Trump for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he's debating Vice President Harris the other night.

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<v Speaker 2>He became well prepared on September tenth, well prepared. She

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<v Speaker 2>knew exactly what she wanted to say and how she

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to say it. And all of a sudden, former

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump was talking about people eating dogs in in

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<v Speaker 2>a small time, you know, Springfield, Ohio. It's like, where

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<v Speaker 2>did that come from?

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<v Speaker 7>And yeah, I don't know. Like I said, Trump, Trump

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<v Speaker 7>goes off, goes off the wall so much. But I

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<v Speaker 7>just hope mister Bratz is a little better prepared and

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<v Speaker 7>answers the questions.

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<v Speaker 2>And well he's he's he's a lawyer by training. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty sharp guy. We'll have to see how he

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<v Speaker 2>looks compared to Tim Waltz. I think Tim Waltz is

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<v Speaker 2>is a is a is a Democrat who enjoys the

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<v Speaker 2>political the politics of it all. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>that Vance is a natural politician, but I think he'll

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<v Speaker 2>he'll be pretty good in his feet. Don't go you

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<v Speaker 2>don't get out of Yale Law school without learning how

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<v Speaker 2>to how to how to dance, and I think he'll

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<v Speaker 2>do pretty well in his feet. It'll be interesting. And

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<v Speaker 2>now it might be that that Walls comes out to

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<v Speaker 2>be a charming guy and and Vance comes out as

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<v Speaker 2>being stiff as a board. We'll see. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be an open minded person here, and

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<v Speaker 2>I will call the I will call the debate as

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<v Speaker 2>cleanly as I can. Both O'Donnell and Brennan have the

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<v Speaker 2>ability to, I guess, fact check this debate. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how they're going to do it. Remember Mure and

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<v Speaker 2>Davis and the ABC debate fact checked President Trump five times,

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<v Speaker 2>never fact checked the vice president once. And one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that I think she should have been fact

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<v Speaker 2>fact that.

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<v Speaker 7>The moderators are not going to fact check the candidates.

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<v Speaker 7>They have to fact check each other.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard that differently because uh, the microphones are open. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see. If you're right, then you've paid more attention

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<v Speaker 2>to it than I have. We'll see.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, before I go, I don't want to take up

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<v Speaker 7>any more of your time. But I've been listening to

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<v Speaker 7>WBZS since I think the early seventies, when Larry Glick

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<v Speaker 7>was on.

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<v Speaker 2>A night yep, Larry Glick and Jerry Williams were the

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<v Speaker 2>tandem at night. Yeah sure.

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<v Speaker 7>Sometimes I work night chefts where I couldn't listen, and

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<v Speaker 7>sometimes I'm not able to get it very well here

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<v Speaker 7>on the radio. When I can, I listen to it

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<v Speaker 7>and I enjoy it much.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a computer or a tablet or anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that, because you can.

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<v Speaker 7>You can have an iPhone, and tonight I was listening

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<v Speaker 7>to it on the iPhone to make sure what subjects

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<v Speaker 7>you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you'll you know, you can listen to it

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<v Speaker 2>if you have a difficulty listening, to listen to the

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<v Speaker 2>debate from nine to ten thirty and then come on

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<v Speaker 2>back after ten thirty and listen to what people have

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<v Speaker 2>to say. Okay, where about it? Whereabouts in PA? Are

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<v Speaker 2>you located, Claire?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I live in a little bitty town called Herrickville.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know where Scranton is?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, yeah, absolutely, scrat Wilf Spurrey. Yeah sure.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm probably about sixty miles northwest of Scranton, getting up

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<v Speaker 7>toward the New York State Boarder, about thirty miles from

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<v Speaker 7>the New York State boarder.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're up by Binghamton probably, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm about probably forty miles from Binghamton.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know exactly where you are. Pleasure to meet you.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this your first time or no? Have you called before?

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<v Speaker 7>No, I've called two or three times before.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, come on back more often because I want to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, get to know you guys a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta make some more friends than year eighteen. Okay, thanks.

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<v Speaker 7>When I get a chance. My wife's already impatient for

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<v Speaker 7>me to get off the phone, so I better let

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<v Speaker 7>you go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay, I gotta go. I gotta read some commercials here.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks to talk to you soon. Have a good one,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, thank you, Thanks very much. I appreciate We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna take a quick break. Charlie and Shirley will be next,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you want to jump in here, tell me

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<v Speaker 2>what you want to see. I want to see handshakes

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<v Speaker 2>at the beginning, at the end, because I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>there's any reason why these two candidates can't shake hands

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<v Speaker 2>at the beginning of the debate and when it's over.

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<v Speaker 2>It's as simple as that U NFL quarterbacks shake hands

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of a football game. They should be

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<v Speaker 2>able to shake hands before and after the debate. Let's see,

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see it's going to be I think an interesting night.

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<v Speaker 2>We will be back on night side with a couple

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<v Speaker 2>more phone calls at least, and then we'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>the debate right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nights Sight Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go to Charlie and Shirley, Massachusetts up on

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<v Speaker 2>Route two. Hey, Charlie, welcome. How are you tonight, sir?

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<v Speaker 3>Good Dan? How are you? I used to call you

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<v Speaker 3>on Friday nights on my way home from bowling when

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<v Speaker 3>I lived in little ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember that we haven't heard you.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, Yes, it's been a while. Well, if you

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<v Speaker 3>ever heard of James Calmer, who does all the investigations

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<v Speaker 3>to work in the Congress congressman from Tennessee. Yep, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>finding out about about campon Tim being related to the CCP. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>absue to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be a favorite favor. The nicknames don't work, okay, because

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<v Speaker 2>let's it's it's Governor Waltz or Tim Waltz, whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I just we can get into issues. Want

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<v Speaker 2>to want to keep it on a higher plane tonight

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<v Speaker 2>as we go into this, and I'm hoping that they'll

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<v Speaker 2>shake hands, they'll they'll have a good conversation, it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>clear whatever your point of meaning, you or me, the

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<v Speaker 2>person that you like, and that we can come out

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<v Speaker 2>with a clear winner. And we can come out with

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<v Speaker 2>a clear winner. And and I do know that he's

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of trips to China. That's what you

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, yes, yes, Well, James Calmer actually just came

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<v Speaker 3>out I think two days ago, and he has all

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<v Speaker 3>the information on all the connections. He has the communist China,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's got it all. He's got all the information.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like, I don't even think the guy should

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<v Speaker 3>be allowed to run for vice president he's so connected

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<v Speaker 3>to China.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that his argument would be, Hey, i'm

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<v Speaker 2>a I'm a governor in Minnesota and I want to

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<v Speaker 2>get over there, and I want to get our products

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<v Speaker 2>exported to China and I want to import I want

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<v Speaker 2>to get any governor. All these governors do these trips. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I will tell you that thirty seems to be a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty big number of trips to one country.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, yeah, and his honeymoon Atman square there and.

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<v Speaker 2>Square they're saying that that you know that he was

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<v Speaker 2>not there at that time, you know of the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm familiar with what you say, and I'd rather

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<v Speaker 2>lead that for another night between now and the election.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to basically take the high road tonight. Give

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<v Speaker 2>them both a clear shot of the runway. Let them

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<v Speaker 2>both try to to perform and do well. And as

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<v Speaker 2>we would say in the Olympics, I hope they both

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<v Speaker 2>can stick their landing. Okay, if you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I know what you're saying him, But can I also

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<v Speaker 3>say his wife opening up the windows when they were

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<v Speaker 3>burning his city down so that she loved the smell

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<v Speaker 3>of the burning tire.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much of that, To be honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you, I'm gonna let it go. Charlie. Thanks, good

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<v Speaker 2>luck and bowling. We'll talk again. Okay, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, all right, so we're about to step aside

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<v Speaker 2>for the CBS News vice presidential debate that you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>hear right here on WBZ. It's also streaming in the

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<v Speaker 2>iHeartRadio app if the signal doesn't work, but stick with

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<v Speaker 2>us and we'll be back for your reaction to this

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<v Speaker 2>debate right when it concludes at about ten thirty. Stay

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<v Speaker 2>with us, folks,