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smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for

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your support. The Wisconsin Supreme Court suspended Dougan doing a

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Dugan up there like Sheriff Gary, not my fault McFadden

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does here that one judge that helped one person get

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out of ICE's custody or try to Ice caught him.

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They've suspended her. I'll give you details in a minute. First,

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let me jump over and get Jerry on the phone

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because he's been holding on for a bit. Hello Jerry,

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welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm okay.

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm living large because I'm sad.

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Speaker 1: Oh all right, anyway, you can I I mean, if

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you're looking to do something about that, you can do

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what I did, PhD a lot.

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Speaker 2: Anyway. I haven't married to my wife for she's from Bogata, Colombia.

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Twenty six and a half years ago. We spent about

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ten thousand dollars going through immigration correctly and when when

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we got everything going her legal status as she was

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an alien. So it there's a difference between an immigrant.

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An immigrant is somebody that completes the process legally. Everybody

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else is considered an alien illegal alien.

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Speaker 1: Well, alien is a descriptor that is used in the law,

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and it goes back, Yeah, it goes back, you know,

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two hundred and fifty years and yeah, somebody who is

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from another place, and there are different statuses of aliens.

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You've got resident alien, right that somebody who is like

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they're living here maybe for work or something, but they

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don't intend to become a citizen. So but then alien became,

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you know, a bad word. You can't use the word alien,

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you can't use the word illegal. And so that's why

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they've changed the way that we talk about this in

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order to soften these terms, because the terms actually conjured

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up an idea in people's minds, because we knew what

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these terms meant, and so the left wanted to they

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wanted to shatter that the imagery of what we conjure

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up in our minds, and so they change the language

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so they can control the debate.

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Speaker 2: Don't you think it's time to change it back?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I say illegal alien. I mean look,

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I can also say unauthorized immigrant as well, or an

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unauthorized alien. Either way, it doesn't matter to me because

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we all know what we're talking about, and all of

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these efforts to try to use different words to describe

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the exact same thing. It's just a it's just a

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it's a it's a psyop, and it's propaganda. That's all

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it is.

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Speaker 2: It is, and I'm tired of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree. And like I said in the

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last hour, people who go about doing this the right

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way usually have the harshest attitudes towards the illegal immigrants

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or aliens that are trying to abuse the system and

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take advantage of it and try to get an amnesty

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down the road because they didn't have to go through

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all of the hoops that the people who did it

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correctly had to go through. And and yeah, it's insulting. Yeah, yep, Jerry,

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I appreciate the call, buddy.

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Speaker 2: And my wife and I are part of that very

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insulted group.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't blame you one bit. I don't

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blame you or her one bit. So I appreciate the

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call Jerry good to hear from you. Thank you. I

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got a message here from Stanley who says, since it

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seems that undocumented people living here actually have constitutional rights,

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maybe we've been looking at this all wrong. The problem

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just might be that we are documented. Maybe we all

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ought to become undocumented and then actually live free in

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our own country. How about that. See, right, when you

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start dismantling the language in service to a political agenda,

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it creates all of these types of conflicts in law,

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in practice, in our just general understanding of an issue.

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And again it's intentional. It's why they change these words.

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They and they come up and they come up with

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some you know, feel good reason. Oh, we don't want

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people to to feel bad it's mean or something like that.

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Or they try to justify like, actually they haven't been

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adjudicated as here illegally and so blah blah blah blah blah.

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But we all know what class of people we are

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talking about. And that does not mean like the word

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the word is not offensive because of the word, right,

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it's the condition and people then make assumptions, they draw conclusions,

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or they have direct knowledge of the conditions, and that's

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what then makes the word insulting or offensive or whatever.

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It's not the word. It's not the term illegal alien.

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It's a legal term. It's from the founding of the country, right.

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I mean, look the the the law that Trump cited,

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the alien the Enemy Aliens Act, right, whatever that was,

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it says it right there in the name, and that

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thing is from the founding of the country. It's from

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John Adams's term. So it's not the term. And I

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don't care to play the word games about it any longer,

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like I am done. There was a time. See, this

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is what the left does is they weaponize your politeness,

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your your desire not to offend, to get along right, basically,

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your your kindness, and they use that against you. They

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make you feel bad if you use a word to

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describe the thing that has been or they will they

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try to make you feel bad if you use a

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word that we have always used to describe a thing.

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And then they change this and they say, oh no, no,

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the new word now is undocumented immigrant. It's different. And

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then it changed. Then it went to undocumented migrant. Right,

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they got of immigrant and now just a migrant, as

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if that word didn't have a specific meaning before either.

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And now what last week I was reading the article

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that I'm trying to remember what publication it was out of,

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but I forget. But it was a lefty I think

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it was Wired dot com or something, and they started

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calling it irregular immigration. That's what they're calling it now,

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irregular immigration. Right to soften it, so it's to see,

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it's not the same. It's see, it's not so bad, no,

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but it is. It is. The Wisconsin Supreme Court has

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suspended Milwaukee County Circuit Court judge Hannah Dugan for pulling

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a Dugan for doing a Dugan. She was arrested by

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the FBI charged last week for allegedly helping an undocumented immigrant.

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There you go, this is ABC news. An undocumented immigrant

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evade arrest. The state Supreme Court did this. She's facing

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ueeing two federal criminal offenses, one of which is a

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felony and one is a misdemeanor. The Supreme Court said, quote,

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this court is charged in the Wisconsin Constitution with exercising

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superintending and administrative authority over the courts of this State

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in the exercise of that constitutional authority, and in order

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to uphold the public's confidence in the courts of this

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State during the pendency of the criminal proceeding against Judge Dugan,

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we conclude on our own motion that it is in

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the public interest that she be temporarily relieved of her

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official duties. She was charged with two counts of obstructing

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and impeding a proceeding before a department or agency of

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the United States, and concealing an individual to prevent his

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discovery and arrest. That's according to the criminal complaint. Her attorney,

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former US Attorney Stephen Biskupich, said that the judge will

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quote defend herself vigorously and looks forward to being exonerated.

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I'm not so sure about that. Judge Hannah Dugan has

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committed herself to the rule of law and the principles

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of due process for her entire career as a lawyer

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and a judge. But that's the thing. The victims were

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there in the courtroom for this proceeding that was then

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short circuited because the judge obstructed it. That's not due process.

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Those victims didn't get due process. They got they got

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their butts kicked by some guy that you then helped

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to escort out the back door. They didn't get due process.

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If convicted on these charges, Judge Dugan could face up

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welcome to the program.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, sir?

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Speaker 1: Right, what's up?

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Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you about the legal aliens, like

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the phrase like I knew a guy that came from

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Jamaica to.

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Speaker 3: Charlotte and he would run around buildings and and he'll

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say I'm an alien. It's called me an alien. But

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now he's a prominent picture is Charlotte, like on the

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council and everything. But I think it should be another

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word for it.

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Speaker 1: Man, Wait, there's a wait, hang on, there's a Jamaican

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preacher who is Now.

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Speaker 3: I didn't say a preacher. Oh I didn't say a preacher.

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Oh I did not say a preacher.

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Speaker 1: What did you say?

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Speaker 3: I say he came from Jamaica. Yeah, and now he's

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a prominent person that's on the Congress and he's running

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for Congress.

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Speaker 1: And he's running for Congress, yes, sir, yes, sir. Well,

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if he's not a citizen, he would not be he

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would not be able to exactly.

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Speaker 2: He would not be able to do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but now he's a citizen. Who is I first

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got here?

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Speaker 1: Oh he is a citizen.

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Speaker 3: Now he had to be, he'd be running for Congress.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, We've had some pretty crazy people

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run for office that that had no business.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: I get yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, I mean I

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don't under and look, I do not understand there are

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people that run for these offices that have no chance

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of winning whatsoever, but are willing to spend the money

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the filing fees and to run for Congress. It's like

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thousands of dollars. But people do it. I don't understand

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why they do it. But there are people that do

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it and they have no shot to win.

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Speaker 3: Because they love they love this country.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think my dad. Now I think I think

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for some of them, it's an ego thing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I get it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now maybe some people, you know, there could be some

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that are really motivated they want to serve the country.

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That's possible too, but I think it's a I think

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it's an ego thing. But all right, so who he say?

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This guy he is from Jamaica and he used to

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run around claiming he was he was an alien.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like, yeah, he was an alien.

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Speaker 2: But he's on.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's very prominent inha. I'm not going to

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say his name, but he's very prominent.

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Speaker 1: Why won't you tell me his name? Give me his initials.

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I'm going to look into it.

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Speaker 3: No, you need to talk to me personally.

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Speaker 1: What I am talking to you personally? Or is it

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you you talking?

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Speaker 3: Just five found found me? Is a watch a lot

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of wats going around the radio?

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Speaker 1: Fifty thousand of them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's a thousand, yes, sir?

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, Brett, do me a favor and send

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me an email you send me or yeah, send me

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an email, or hit me up on Twitter if you

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got a if you have a Twitter time.

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Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not on any social media black boys,

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because I don't.

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Speaker 2: Believe in it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, I mean it doesn't exist. It does exist,

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it does exist.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe in it.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean you don't believe in it?

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Speaker 2: It tells lies?

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Speaker 1: Oh well that's true, but that's true.

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Speaker 3: It's fake news, Like like our president says, it's fake news.

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Every I believe what he's Something you say is fake news.

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Speaker 2: On the internet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's a lot that's true. There's a lot

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of b s the internet that is true. So all right,

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so I got to look for all right, so you

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send me an email? Do you know what my email addresses?

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Speaker 2: No, sir?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 1: I would say it's very easy, but it's got my

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last name in it. That's not easy to spell.

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Speaker 3: You calendar, K and K. Okay, I'm not I'm not

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a lyric man.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say, all right, how do you think how

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do you think my last name is spelled?

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: You're breaking up, Brett, you're breaking up? What how do

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you think my last calendar?

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Speaker 3: Calendar? Calendar? Right, no calendar, No, it's first calendar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pete calender. There's no d in there.

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Speaker 3: Calender.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, right, so it's Pete at the Pete Calendar

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show dot com. K A l I any r? Yes,

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I mean I'd be curious. I want to take a

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look at this guy, see see what his story is,

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because like I want to know. I would want to know,

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like if he's running running around saying he's an alien,

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does he mean an ill before?

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Speaker 4: That's before, that's when he came to America, Right, he

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didn't know anything about it.

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Speaker 3: So he was like, I'm an illegal alien.

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Speaker 4: But now he's on the congress, I mean not Congress,

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but like city council.

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Speaker 3: He's running for kids city.

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Speaker 4: Council, probably running for mayor. But he's very prominent. He

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has a lot of things out here, running and shaking

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the movie in Charlotte, North Carolina. But when I met him,

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he was running behind builders saying he's an alien.

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Speaker 1: All right. It says that you well, look, there have

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been There was a guy who ran for mayor back

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in the early two thousands who said that Charlotte was cursed.

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And I think his name was like Ramsey. It was

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like some traveling art exhibit that came through, like the

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tomb of Ramsey's the second or something like that, and

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he said that.

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Speaker 3: Man want to raise here. Man, I've never heard that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this guy, I forget his name, but

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he was he was crazy and he was like, we're

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a curse, and so the only way to break the

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curse is to do some ceremony at the trade and

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try on and stuff like. And that's what he would

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do if he was made Charlotte.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Charlotte is not cursed.

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Speaker 4: Man, we have we have we have the best people

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from from white black Puerto Rican anybody.

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Speaker 1: No, I agree, we have good people here, man, I agree. Look,

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there's a reason I've been here for thirty years. Like

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I love Charlotte and that's why. But that was what

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he was trying. He ran when Pat McCrory was mayor.

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He ran against McCrory. Yeah, he ran as like an

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independent or something like that, so he didn't.

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Speaker 3: Have to get and I can and I can tell

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you a story about Pat McCrory. No, like like the

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dude he says, like the dow he say.

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Speaker 4: That beat up his car was a stick?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, was that you on the Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, no it's not me.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, oh I don't know. You were going to

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tell me a story.

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Speaker 6: I know you.

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Speaker 4: No, you can't. You can't really judge. You can't judge people.

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Because he was a person that was real, real smart.

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He was smarter than you probably anybody on.

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Speaker 2: This radio station.

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Speaker 1: Well that's not saying much.

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Speaker 3: It's not saying much to you, but no, I know definitely.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, it's interesting that you know so many interesting people. Bret.

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Send me an email. I would like to know who

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this candidate is that either is or is not on

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a committee or council or something right now, but is

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looking to run for something. I'd be curious to know

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Speaker 6: Hello Danny, Hey, how you doing today? I appreciate you

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taking my call.

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Speaker 1: Sure, what's up?

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Speaker 6: Well? You know, on that trade on the tear thing,

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the thing that trips me out about the whole thing

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is that, uh, we never talk about to terrors that

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all these countries are putting on us. For example, Europe

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is about four to one, you know, trying to thank

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China is about five to one in trading partners.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean four to one? Five to one?

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What does that mean.

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Speaker 6: About how much money they get compared to what we

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get in trading?

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Speaker 1: So you're okay, so you're saying you're talking about a

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trade deficit.

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Speaker 6: Yes, no trade deficit.

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Speaker 1: So but you realize, like on a trade deficit. I

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mean like when you go to the grocery store, you

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run a trade deficit with the grocery store. You're giving

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them money and they don't give you money.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this.

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Speaker 6: I grew up. I grew up in a town. I

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retired from the Marine Corps, so I served this country

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for twenty six years. And the thing is, I'll tell

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you exactly the town cliff Side, North Carolina. All those meals,

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and people say, well, you don't want to work for

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those places. All those jobs are gone. Every one of

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those jobs are gone, all the wooden and everybody says, well,

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you know you'll get better jobs. What better jobs if

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you didn't have a college degree? What better jobs? Walmart?

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Is that what you're saying? And stuff? So I mean, no,

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that's not it and stuff. What I'm saying as far

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as the deficit and stuff. What about Europe? They have

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no cars in Europe, Germany and places like that that's

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made from America. How's that power? And I understand that

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some of those companies came to America, like Japan. Japan's

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done pretty good as far as like a Nisan and Toyota,

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because there's not Chevrolet and poured, not even fifty percent

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of the course. It's only one vehicle, the American vehicle.

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It's Jeep that's made into top ten. The only other

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ones what's his name? Everybody hates and stuff, the electric

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cards and stuff. That is the only one there. It

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makes me wonder what Americans are thinking. Does it matter,

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pat your next generation? Are you going to be like

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you're gonna owe other countries like China? I mean, for example,

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when there's the next thing that happens, we can't take

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care of our own country. We got the number one

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economy in the world. Why don't we set around and

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ask other countries to take care of us? For saying

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another example, you know what, you know what Canada pays

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on their military one four percent? What about what about

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all the Europeans other than the Eastern Europeans? Like holy,

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how's well?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 6: Why does America have to take care of the world?

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Why do we have to say that? And especially says

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i's in the Marines we risk our lives while they're

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saying on basis is that okay?

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Speaker 1: So okay, Danny, you've asked. I feel like you're you're

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asking questions in the form of an argument. But you're

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not actually making an argument with evidence for me. I

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understand you've got these questions that you're asking, but you've

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asked so many of them, I can't address all of them.

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So would you like to pick one particular question and

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we can we can examine that, like one specific thing.

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Speaker 6: Why is why does the world not protect him sales?

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Okaycause America I have to protect them, Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I think this is the leftover from the post

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World War two order that was set up that guarantee,

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I mean, and the other countries were in no condition

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or position to be able to do that at the time,

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and America filled that void, right, And then of course

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you've got the Cold War, and so we built up

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and it was a bipolar arrangement where you have the

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Soviets and you have America, and you know, we had

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our friends, they had their friends kind of a deal

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when the.

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Speaker 6: Soviet let me, can I ask you, okay?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? For example, you crying, this is another topic.

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Speaker 6: Now, no it's not.

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Speaker 3: It's a fine.

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Speaker 6: Let's take take care of our own people.

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Speaker 1: Well you crying, well, but you asked why, okay, all right, go.

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Speaker 6: Ahead, Germany, it's buying buying gas and all from Russia

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and waited two for a while, and they're actually buying

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more ole in gas from Russia, okay than they're actually

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going to help you cry.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I.

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Speaker 6: Mean, how does that work? How about India?

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Speaker 1: How about you go to go to Indiana?

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Speaker 6: All these other countries.

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Speaker 1: Again, Danny, I'm trying to limit the conversation because we've

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now gone through five and almost six minutes. You've thrown

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out I think like probably about twenty percent of the

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countries on the planet. I'm trying to I'm trying to

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limit this down, and I don't have time to now

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address really any of it because you've thrown so much

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stuff out there. I thought it was about the economy

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and about the trade and tariff stuff, but then we

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pivoted over to national security and the global order. And look,

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Douglas Murray said this, and I think he's exactly right.

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America needs to determine whether or not, you know, it

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wants to be the loan superpower or it wants to

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just remove itself from all foreign entanglements, because you can't

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do both. Can't do both. You can't say we want

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to be the most powerful and be everywhere and do

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all of this stuff. And then, by the way, if

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you're going to say we want to step away and

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we don't want to do that, then I would also

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be curious who do you think fills that vacuum, because

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somebody will And my bed is it's China. And I

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bet China would love nothing more than to be the

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world's policeman. I have no doubt about that whatsoever. But

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you're not going to like the way that they enforce

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their set of rules. But I don't know anybody else.

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I don't trust anybody else any other country on the

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planet to do what we do. I really don't. But

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I appreciate the call. Thank you for your service too, Danny.

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All right, So spring is here a time of renewal

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and celebrations. You've got graduations, weddings, anniversaries, in the special

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days for mom and dad. Your family's making memories that

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Yeah all right, real quick. I thought this was of

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note that the Ultimate Pool Championship has now made the

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Women's Championship for women. So baby steps here people, But

492
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I feel like this is a good thing. I'll give

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you details here if I have time after I talk

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with Walt.

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Speaker 5: Hello Walt, Hey, I wanted to answer a question for dan.

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Ford has been building cars in Germany for years, for decades.

497
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You know, they have a contract to license with Ford

498
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and then they built a type of car that meets

499
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the European specifications in Germany.

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Speaker 2: It's it's not as as.

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Speaker 5: Well as what Tyota did. Tyota came here and they

502
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set up huge factories and sold all their cars, you know,

503
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under the Tyota name. But we actually do build cars

504
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in Germany and sell them there. I owned one. It

505
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was a Ford Taunus and I was stationed there for

506
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three years from seventy nine to eighty two. And I

507
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love my little Ford Taunis.

508
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Speaker 3: It was awesome.

509
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Speaker 1: So it's the same thing with BMW Right. I mean,

510
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that's a quote German car, but it's made in South Carolina.

511
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Speaker 5: Yeah, right up the road, the road from Gastonia.

512
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, And that's the thing when talking about

513
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international trade things, it is very very complicated based on

514
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all sorts of factors, from you know, the raw material inputs,

515
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to the manufacturing locations, to the type of industry. It

516
00:28:28,279 --> 00:28:31,519
is the specifications and that, like tariffs, is one part

517
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of this much more complex system.

518
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Speaker 5: Yeah, licensing agreements, you know.

519
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, there's there there's a lot of stuff. Yeah,

520
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and like yeah, and there's just there's a lot of stuff.

521
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And I but I understand and what what Danny was

522
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king on initially, which is where I thought we were

523
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going to have the conversation. Where it was going to

524
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go to was the you know, the the restoration of

525
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industry manufacturing in America, because there are a lot of

526
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,680
these small towns that were set up around manufacturing facilities

527
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that when those facilities went belly up or moved overseas,

528
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the towns were decimated. And like, and I understand that

529
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I've talked about that very topic a few times, particularly

530
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after Trump's tariff announcements, so I thought that's where he

531
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was going with it, and like, those scars are real.

532
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But this idea that we're going to bring back paper

533
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,319
mills and people are going to go and take these

534
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:38,160
line jobs, these factory line jobs that for the most

535
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,680
part don't really exist any longer. I mean, and I

536
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,519
said this quote or this stat the other day, there

537
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are right now, every single month in America half a

538
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:51,440
million manufacturing jobs that are unfilled. So like Americans, these

539
00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:54,039
jobs do exist, but a lot of Americans don't want

540
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the jobs.

541
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Speaker 5: You know, last week you were lamenting on the same

542
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thing you just said. And I work in a factory.

543
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I work in a production facility. It's a half production

544
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facility and a half storage facility. And we brought in

545
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the big boys from corporate last week and they are

546
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scrambling to try to figure out how to get around

547
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,319
the tariffs right now. Oh I bet it is a

548
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huge corporation. And I'm not prounding myself on the back

549
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because I'm just a part time guy. I'm retired, and

550
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uh man, they are literally scrambling to try to figure

551
00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:37,359
out how to because our company has got fingers in

552
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all Canada, Mexico, Europe, all over the place. We get

553
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a lot of our stuff from Poland and we bring

554
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it here and assimilate and then send it back out

555
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to other countries. And so now they're trying to figure

556
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out how to get away from all.

557
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Speaker 1: That stuff, right and yeah, I mean some of the stuff.

558
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If you're importing raw material that is not mineable basically

559
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in America, like then what do you do?

560
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Speaker 2: Uh?

561
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Speaker 1: And and what happens if you start trying to reorganize

562
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your entire operation around what you think the tariff structure

563
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is and then a week later you get an announcement

564
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that says, Okay, the tariffs are now suspended or we're

565
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going to do something different with that area or industry

566
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or something. This uncertainty is just a killer for for

567
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,200
for business planning and future outlook and stuff. So it's

568
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a it's a problem. It's a very big problem that

569
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he has caused.

570
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Speaker 5: But but let me make one point to you, and

571
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I know this is going to contradict some of your

572
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some of the way you're feeling about this and some

573
00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:44,519
of your narratives, but we literally cannot keep enough people.

574
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,880
We have a we have an open door coming and

575
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,079
chill out, an application, go online, whatever, and we can't

576
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,720
keep people. We can't keep them. They don't want to

577
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work like that anymore, right, And there's there's probably tens

578
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of thousands of jobs like that out dur in this country.

579
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Speaker 1: Oh.

580
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Speaker 5: I agree, people have gotten spoiled and they don't want.

581
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Speaker 2: To work for a living.

582
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Speaker 1: I completely agree. Yeah, No, I completely agree. I don't

583
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think that's why I said there are half a million

584
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unfilled manufacturing jobs every month. Americans don't want to do

585
00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:18,319
a lot of this kind of work. That people think

586
00:32:18,359 --> 00:32:21,920
like there's this sort of nostalgia for the good old days.

587
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And I don't even think it's about the actual jobs

588
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,160
or the factory work itself. I think it is a

589
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concept that I can, you know, get out of high school,

590
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,480
no college, go to work at some place and then

591
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:39,079
make enough money to afford a house, a car, a family. Like.

592
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I think that's the thing that people are are are

593
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,759
nostalgic for more so than the actual work of the

594
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of the job. Does that make sense, yes, sir.

595
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Speaker 5: And there's great jobs out there in the manufacturing fields.

596
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,960
You can make a living. You can, oh yeah, family,

597
00:32:56,359 --> 00:32:58,720
but you've got to be willing to show up on time,

598
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,920
on target and right and produce something. It's not sitting

599
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at a desk playing on your keyboard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: You know when Obama said to the popeline workers, well

602
00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:15,079
you need to learn how to code. How are you

603
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,440
going to take a pipeline welder or something like that

604
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,640
and telling him to learn how to code?

605
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Speaker 1: Come on, man, Yeah, no, I agree, it doesn't work. Yeah,

606
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,240
well I appreciate the call. Man. Yeah, I appreciate your call.

607
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,440
I got to run. Yeah, thank you. No, it's great insight.

608
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,880
And thank you also for your service too to the country.

609
00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:34,440
And I said, I laid this out two weeks ago.

610
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,920
I said, if this whole radio thing doesn't work out,

611
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I've got two or three manufacturers within half a mile

612
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,039
of my house. That's where I would be going to go.

613
00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:50,880
Get work, because contrary to popular belief, we don't get

614
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,359
paid millions of dollars to do this. I could probably

615
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,079
make more money going to work on the line. You know, Wait,

616
00:33:57,119 --> 00:33:59,559
where are my producers going? Wait, come back, guys, come back. No,

617
00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:04,240
I'm kidding, they're still here. Now. It's a matter of

618
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,480
do you have a work ethic to do it? And people,

619
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:09,159
I think a lot of people think that they are

620
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,400
quote too good to do certain kinds of work, and

621
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,360
as well just said they're spoiled. Yeah, it's a work

622
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,480
ethic thing, and they're like, I shouldn't have to do that.

623
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,920
And part of that is also based on what their

624
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,960
parents and grandparents told them, which was go to college,

625
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,119
get a degree, so you don't have to do this

626
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:31,320
work that I've been doing. I want better for you.

627
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,920
And they believe that this whole issue is way more

628
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,760
complex than just you know, we're running a trade deficit

629
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,719
with country X, so therefore we need to slap a

630
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,559
terif on them. It's way more complex. All right, that'll

631
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:49,239
do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening.

632
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I could not do the show without your support and

633
00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:54,239
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So if you'd like, please support them too and tell

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patron at my Patreon page or go to dpetecalnarshow dot com. Again,

637
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,599
thank you so much for listening, and uh, don't break

638
00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:06,559
anything while I'm gone.

